tech-chat-1

[winter lantern]

This 1200$ 5070 + 7600x prebuilt gonna go crazy

[tardy tulip]

Now what shall i do with this vega 56

[eager wagon]

Just saying what the differences are, and letting each person decide for themselves whether they consider that a benefit or if they don't care for it

[nimble marsh]

Wtf is this 💀 never seen such a weird keyboard

[willow jolt]

Thats just tragic so basically it's just a 4070 that's 5% better but sometimes in specific situations 150% better?

[frigid blade]

whats wrong with it

[winter lantern]

Probably the wrist rests

[willow jolt]

Idk bro everyone told me to get am5 so I just wanted to upgrade immediately and order a 8500g

[frigid blade]

thats not wrong or weird

[eager wagon]

200% i think, but yea, pretty much

[nimble marsh]

It legit has a control panel on it

[willow jolt]

Numpax

[winter lantern]

Sometimes equal to the 4090 🔥

[tidal geyser]

if you turn on MFG

[nimble marsh]

5070 is not 4090 lvl ngl

[paper brook]

yeah that sounds valid

[eager wagon]

I'm going to start tweaking if I hear that again 😭

[tidal geyser]

are you still within the return window?

[eager wagon]

Isn't the 8500g the one limited to pcie x4?

[tidal geyser]

no

but it has less pcie lanes and also 2x Zen 4 , 4x Zen 4c

not even 6 full zen 4 cores

[winter lantern]

Can I put an ssd in a new computer and just have everything on it without issue

[willow jolt]

Uh I don't think I can return it

There's only replacement

[tidal geyser]

wut

[willow jolt]

Is that gonna affect anything in a bad way?

[tidal geyser]

windows no not really, anything else not a OS drive yeah its fine

[tidal geyser]

well yeah performance

[paper brook]

it'll make multi-core performance worse

[willow jolt]

Idk I just got the cheapest am5 cpu on amazon

[willow jolt]

Crazy

[paper brook]

single-core would probably be about the same, depending on clockspeed

[tidal geyser]

and gaming performance i think on par or worse then a r5 5600

[willow jolt]

It's not gonna be noticeable right?

[paper brook]

depending on the game

[winter lantern]

Do i put windows on an hdd then?

[tidal geyser]

no

[willow jolt]

WHAT CRAZY AINT NO WAY 😭 😭 🙏

[tidal geyser]

yes way

[paper brook]

please put windows on an SSD if possible

[willow jolt]

I thought it's better because it's new mobo w ddr5 and uh new cpu?

[winter lantern]

If i swap ssds will it cause issues with windows?

[tidal geyser]

it does not even have 6 full zen 4 cores, it has WAY less cache aka what games love the most and then way less pcie lanes

[tidal geyser]

new cpu doesn not mean better

[paper brook]

you'll have to reinstall windows if you're swapping out the OS drive

[willow jolt]

Cooked atleast I don't play games all that much

[winter lantern]

Doesn't that format the ssd?

[willow jolt]

I might js have to cope what would be the other best am5 cpu

[paper brook]

it does yeah

[nimble marsh]

Hell naw my laptop js crashed itself

[tidal geyser]

eh even then due to it not being a full 6 core zen 4 cpu that is also a pain point

[paper brook]

9950x3d

[winter lantern]

Both of the ssds have windows in it though

[tidal geyser]

welp at least your on am5

[paper brook]

[winter lantern]

7600x 🔥

[elder quarry]

I need to clean my keeb

[paper brook]

real lmao

[eager wagon]

Yea it is. Just checked again

[elder quarry]

(7500f, 7600 in the corner)

[kindred halo]

2133MHz gaming 🔥
(Got the opportunity to score a full kit for 95, but the 4x2 probably isn't the same kit)

[winter lantern]

Close enough

[eager wagon]

1x PCI-E x16 slot
• Supports x16 (For Ryzen™ 9000/ 7000 Series processors)
• Supports x8 (For Ryzen™ 8700/ 8600/ 8400 Series processors)
• Supports x4 (For Ryzen™ 8500/ 8300 Series processors)

[tidal geyser]

it has 14 but 4 goes to the chipset

so only 10 usable,

[eager wagon]

Check any mobo manufacturer's spec list. They all have the 8500 series as x4 only

[willow jolt]

Well what about a 7400f is it better?

[eager wagon]

I remember checking this when making my build

[tidal geyser]

miles

[tidal geyser]

yeeeaa ok by the look of it most boards will only allow x4 for the x16 slot

[winter lantern]

I lowkey don't have anything important on it in just dont wanna redownload games

It'll be fine

[paper brook]

ahha struggle is real ong

[willow jolt]

CRAZY ITS 10$ CHEAPER

[steel umbra]

yes the 7400f is a lot better in most cases than 8400f or 8600g

[winter lantern]

My internet is good too so it wouldn't even be that bad
Like 3h for everything i play

[tidal geyser]

(he has the 8500G)

[paper brook]

I'd just do that then ngl

[willow jolt]

WHY WOULD 7400f be better than a 8500g

[steel umbra]

2 zen 4 and 4 zen 4c cores

[eager wagon]

Yes

[willow jolt]

I'll try my best to return it atp

[tidal geyser]

it actually has 6 full zen 4 cores and all dat cache and ofc pcie lanes

[winter lantern]

So does windows reinstall automatically or do i use a boot drive?

[steel umbra]

because amd

[tidal geyser]

@steel umbra

[eager wagon]

Super stupid, but that's how it is. This is why you absolutely have to check reviews before buying stuff 🫠

[steel umbra]

8700g has less cache than a 7400f

[tidal geyser]

ryzen 8000 is just mobile cpus on am5

[steel umbra]

does that make sense to you

[paper brook]

There's a lot of pretty useful tutorials on how to reinstall windows on Youtube. I don't think I'll be able to guide you through it more successfully than that. Though if you get stuck at a point, js ask!

[willow jolt]

Yes now it does

[steel umbra]

bruh yu first i second i lose you win i hate you :nukes you

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-vs-beanbag-catjumping-gif-6100956

[winter lantern]

I've done it before, but the computer already had windows on it.
Will i beable to just use a boot usb like I did for that?

[paper brook]

jupp

[tidal geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/859423676457287730/1286737790322868365/2x-1.gif

[eager wagon]

Yuh

[winter lantern]

That 2tb ssd is high key being wasted in that 1650 laptop

[plush wren]

[eager wagon]

Iirc reinstalling windows when doing cpu/platform upgrade helps avoid contradictions in the drivers and sht like that

I may be wrong about this tho

[tidal geyser]

especially platform upgrades should always do a windows reinstall long term

[plucky laurel]

I have a intel core i7-14700k and a gtx 1070, should I get a 5060 ti ? for $529

[tidal geyser]

and a new PSU

[plucky laurel]

yes I bought one

[tidal geyser]

what did you end up with

[plucky laurel]

the one you gave me

[tidal geyser]

a650bn?

[plucky laurel]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CZWTS2CL?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

[eager wagon]

I pray you're talking about the 16gb model...

[tidal geyser]

o the BE it should be fine

[plucky laurel]

yes

[tidal geyser]

have you updated your bios?

[plucky laurel]

yes

[tidal geyser]

i did ask about the same thing

[winter lantern]

Will this be a good upgrade /s

[tidal geyser]

ok then yeah 5060 ti 16GB will be fine, tbh i would myself go for something better but its fine

[tidal geyser]

fyi not gaming performance

[maiden crater]

does any one self host a pass manager?

[steel umbra]

5070 suckz

[plucky laurel]

budget of $529.99

[tidal geyser]

i have tired

[eager wagon]

Man it really REALLY hurts to have a $500+ pricetag next to a 60 class card...

[steel umbra]

@tidal geyser what’s your opinion on the 5070

[tidal geyser]

but then gave up right before doign it

[tidal geyser]

4070 super, but if MSRP its just about OK unless AMD can manage to do something good

[winter lantern]

Atleast a 5070 can be found at msrp

[steel umbra]

if you look at the pcb of a 5070 can you say it’s 70 class

[maiden crater]

i deployed vaultwarden but i made nginx proxy manager to keep it to my ip so i can use a vpn to access it i gotta see if they provide https

[maiden crater]

oh what did you do

did you use docker?

vaultwarden is easy

[winter lantern]

Should I spend the 550$ more for a 9070xt + 9700x

[tidal geyser]

that was what i planned on doing but tailscale

[steel umbra]

it depends on your use case, can you buy used?

[tidal geyser]

:3

[maiden snow]

I need help in ticket I was gonna get a rx7900 xtx but I found a whole new build

[tidal geyser]

5060 ti btw

[maiden crater]

am i allowed to talk about deploying a vpn to unblock my schools blocking

i deployed wg on udp and open vpn on tcp and both on random ports

[winter lantern]

Marketplace

[winter lantern]

Js do your work

[eager wagon]

9000 cpu series isn't that great for gaming. Barely any improvements. I'd generally recommend an older cpu to save money and get pretty much the same performance

[steel umbra]

looks like 5050 ti to me

[maiden crater]

we do but lunch time

well i do i only got couple months left

[steel umbra]

look for used 4070 ti if possible

[winter lantern]

Well it's a facebook marketplace prebuilt so can't change anything

[steel umbra]

it’s likely going to be cheaper

[maiden crater]

i think they block udp so im gonna try tcp

[winter lantern]

But this is such a great deal

1200

[tidal geyser]

he makes computers

[steel umbra]

not really

[maiden crater]

you plan on redoing it

[tidal geyser]

anyways its pretty bad

[winter lantern]

Whats better for that price?

[tidal geyser]

tbh im still just using the manager built into firefox

[steel umbra]

used 4070 ti, 3090, 6950 xt, 7900 xt/xtx

[tidal geyser]

omg the ram is a war crime

[winter lantern]

It's not hard to buy 1 stick 😭

[maiden crater]

oh.

[tidal geyser]

you never said how many sticks are in the pc

most of the time when i see 16GB i go 2x8

but the cpu, motherboard and ram stick can be 300 off MC, and the gpu is 550 off there too

[maiden crater]

do not do bitwarden offical server it is a big stack

[tardy tulip]

Yeah this card was worth it

[maiden crater]

it has microsoft sql server

and other big containers

[steel umbra]

@winter lantern in a lot of cases the 5070 is struggling agaisnt the 3090

[winter lantern]

Do i do one of these then?

[winter lantern]

I doubt it with dlss and mfg

[steel umbra]

slightly better but i say look more

[steel umbra]

yeah and not everything supports dlss and mfg

[oblique jay]

How's this build? https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Mw7q9C for my gfs colleague who wants it for: ableton live, photoshop, da vinci resolve, illustrator. Probably not all the tasks he needs it for but its evidently gonna be a workstation build. He doesnt care about aesthetic but for my sake I want something easy to build in. And something that will stay quiet

I proposed a £1000 budget to gim but he said its a bit more than he wanted to spend

[tidal geyser]

ffs, quick sync

also cv550 not good

[oblique jay]

Forgot to say * I asked chst gpt to give park's and I just tweaked little bits

[tidal geyser]

does he already have anything

😭

[oblique jay]

Let me check my messages rq

1tb ssd and 1tb sata

As for his actual system im not entirely sure, not sure he does either 😂

Ill try ask

[winter lantern]

I see something with a 5070ti and ultra 285k and 64gb of ram for 2000 but that's lowkey just market value

[rigid fjord]

no

[steel umbra]

look for zen 4

[winter lantern]

Never heard of those? Is that a term for recent amd cpus?

[frail topaz]

zen 4 = amd ryzen 7000 series

[oblique jay]

Happy to have more builds suggested if not an issue, I suck at part selection but csn build the system for him

[steel umbra]

well, not very recent but yeah cpus like 7400f, 7500f, 7600, 7700 look for those

• b650/m or b850m under $120

[winter lantern]

Is that even a good deal to begin with? I don't got the money for that

[steel umbra]

and avoid b650 prime boards, stuff below gigabyte ds3h and most msi boards under $130 (expect for the prime b650m-a ii wifi that one is ok)

[winter lantern]

The 5070ti one

[steel umbra]

look for asrock offrerings like hdv or lightning

[rigid fjord]

is wifi a must or an optional extra for them ?

[steel umbra]

7400f and 7500f start alone at like $110

[tidal geyser]

max budget was 500?

and i ask again does this person already have a computer and if yes what are its specs?

[oblique jay]

Not sure let's just say a must for now ig

[oblique jay]

I have asked, waiting for a response

[winter lantern]

So do I use one of those with a 3090ti and make a 1000$ish build with it?

[oblique jay]

As for his budget he didn't give me one which I asked for multiple times

[tidal geyser]

3090 ti has the gaming performance of like a 4070 super well at 1080p or smn

once the 12GB of vram run out the 3090 ti will shine

[winter lantern]

Wouldn't a 5070 just be better

[tidal geyser]

vram

[steel umbra]

yes but i think i’d look for just a 3090, 3090 ti at $600 too much

ga102 gpus have advantage at higher resolutions

until you put them agaisnt something like 4070 ti or 4070 ti super

[winter lantern]

Isnt it like how the 4060ti and 5060ti are where it won't use that much vram

[tidal geyser]

they do not have a lot of bandwith

[steel umbra]

5060 ti garbago

[tidal geyser]

so for gaming they are not great

[winter lantern]

Yeah a 5070 is like much better for not even that much of a difference in price

[steel umbra]

both are horrible

[random gyro]

just buy a 5090

[steel umbra]

two

[winter lantern]

So true

I can get a maxed out 5090 prebuilt for 5000

[winter lantern]

Do i get a 9070xt for 800?

[steel umbra]

too much

[steel umbra]

. under $500 expect for the xtx

[winter lantern]

Too unrealistic tbh

[tidal geyser]

under 500

[steel umbra]

I don’t think so

[rigid fjord]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/2zXGwY

[tidal geyser]

(video editing)

well eh the 7700X will be plenty fine

but intel is still the leader for video editing

but mac is still best overall

[rigid fjord]

to have better than a 7700x would be to go for a 13700 instead

[steel umbra]

contact 3090 sellers and negotiate with them to $500, after 3 or 5 sellers one is likely to agree

[winter lantern]

Is this for 1490 good or nah

[tidal geyser]

quick sync timeline scrub

[steel umbra]

i don’t think no

[steel umbra]

same with 7900 xt sellers, 4070 ti

just look for listings under $550, negotiate to $500

[rigid fjord]

dude

[tidal geyser]

that is render

but considering i have not had nor tested a true desktop intel cpu with quick sync i cant say too much

[winter lantern]

None are even 700 besides the 3090ti I already showed 😔

[rigid fjord]

and basing the build off of the software the person they'll be using, 12th gen isn't worth it

[oblique jay]

Thanks will show it to him, he also mentioned "2 drives for riad" but no clue what that means

[rigid fjord]

if he needs raid, he's better off with a nas instead for storing project files to

[steel umbra]

well, it really depends on how much patience you have

[oblique jay]

He has a nas he said but wanted to get rid so he can have it all in the cloud

[rigid fjord]

i only put a 500gb drive as an OS drive on it, but storage wise, a separate 2-4tb drive would be advisable

[steel umbra]

try asking that 3090 ti seller to lower the price

[rigid fjord]

then he should invest in 2 cloud services, one to act as a backup for what he currently uses

[oblique jay]

This was his original message

Maybe i misread the thing about a nas, I thought he had one but sounds like he wants one

[rigid fjord]

9700x being bit of a disappointment here @tidal geyser

[winter lantern]

Wouldn't a 3090ti still run bad on settings that a 5070 does?
It's not like you can overclock it to use 10 more gb of vb and get double the performance

[rigid fjord]

ableton minimum system specs btw @oblique jay

[steel umbra]

no the 3090 ti beats the 5070 in most cases unless you count frame gen

or in certain applications that favor newer architectures

for raster the 3090 ti has just more horsepower

[winter lantern]

I just do gaming but a 3090ti def is much better for anything that isn't that

[steel umbra]

if you don’t care about higher power consumption (eg. electricity in your country is cheap and space heater gpu is fine) the 3090 ti is better for gaming on average

[rigid fjord]

i would advise a better gpu than a 1660 super though, preferably a gpu with 12gb vram or better @oblique jay

[rigid fjord]

providing you're doing 4k gaming**

[steel umbra]

also i believe a 3090 ti would hold better in newer titles as nowadays games require a ton of vram

[steel umbra]

actually even at 1440p

[rigid fjord]

nope, 4k, 3090 ti loses to the 6950xt in 1080p and 1440p

[steel umbra]

agaisnt the 5070 i’m talking about though

[oblique jay]

I wasn't worried about it as I knew it would be able to run it anyway, he wants something thst would be able to have w12 also

[plush wren]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-music-vibe-gif-15939123588427611552

[oblique jay]

As for the nas he requested, is it even gonna be possible within his budget?

[steel umbra]

also i think the 3090 ti beats the 6950 xt both in 1440p and 1080p as of recently atleast

the 3090 is one that loses

nothing singificant tho

[rigid fjord]

a nas is possible, depending on his actual budget, and should be a separate system from his main setup

[rigid fjord]

not for 1080p tbh

[winter lantern]

So they're basically equal?

[steel umbra]

uhh, how old is this chart and which 12 games

[rigid fjord]

1440p it's neck and neck but the 3090 ti would only beat it if you're doing RT

[rigid fjord]

https://www.techspot.com/review/2463-amd-radeon-6950xt/

[oblique jay]

How does it work? Is it just a pc woth a ton of storage

[rigid fjord]

that's pretty much all a nas is for the better part

[oblique jay]

So in other words would be easy to build and setup

I kinda knew what. And was but didn't know if it would be difficult to do over a gaming system or whatever

[rigid fjord]

easy to build yes, setting up it depends on if it's just a pure nas or it's going to be used up as a home server as well

[oblique jay]

He said a small nas as well as a server

Not sure what a server is or what it involves doing

[rigid fjord]

in simplish terms, a nas with more functionality

[steel umbra]

i believe rainbow six vulkan favors amd cards, and f1 too, plus that 6950 xt is a nitro+
and probably watchdog legions as well

[oblique jay]

Ah okay, so you mentioned a nas being used as a server too, on his case what's better to do? Or does it depend on other shit

[rigid fjord]

f1 like microsoft flight sim favoured nvidia

[rigid fjord]

really it depends on the scale of the build he plans on, and storage capacity he wants

[gloomy sleet]

f1 always favours nvidia

[oblique jay]

Okay, so should I send him over the build youbsent me? (https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/2zXGwY) , and also what else should I ask that would be useful information to getting help

[steel umbra]

yeah looks like it

[gloomy sleet]

doesn’t it use physx?

could be entirely wrong here

[swift moss]

Msfs uses physx yeah

Physx may be by NVIDIA, but it doesn't need cuda or anything

[oblique jay]

Also i didn't check the price originally on the build you sent, £1k is a bit over what he wanted to spend from what he told me earlier

[rigid fjord]

understanding the system specs requirements for the software tbh, that would give you an idea of what would work best, as some of the software there may not care about nvidia vs amd on what works better, though also needing to know how much storage capacity he requires would be wise

[swift moss]

It's just maths, not really optimised to "render" anywhere

[steel umbra]

or maybe not

[oblique jay]

I suggested a 1k bidget he said it was more thsn he was hoping it to be. Not sure if thst mesns he doesn't wanna spend it or didn't realise itd be so much

[rigid fjord]

probably the latter

a new reasonable build is going to be 1k spend

[oblique jay]

What does the system specs matter to him, no need to ask if we already know what he plans to use itnfor or sn I missing something here? As for storage on the nss I'll ask

[swift moss]

In fact @gloomy sleet msfs uses a lot of gameworks suite

That's just what asobo uses

[oblique jay]

Yesh this is why I suggested thst budget, more of as a guide but didn't think it would be far off. I did suggest a used cpu and gpu but not sure if he'd be open to it

[rigid fjord]

for example, davinci doesn't care about using a nvidia gpu but photoshop suggests an 8c 16t cpu as minimum

[swift moss]

Zluda is cool for cuda

[rigid fjord]

as it shows for ableton, it'll run off of a 4c 4t cpu as minimum

[steel umbra]

there are less recent games that favor amd gpus compared to 2-4 years back expect for like some COD games

[tidal geyser]

Zluda ded

[swift moss]

Oh really, I ain't caught up with the times 🙏🙏

[steel umbra]

🤫

[oblique jay]

Okay, I'll send him the build and just say for a reasonable new build this is about what it'll cost unless he wants to go for used gpu and cpu then he can save some money. And also ask how much storage he wants on a nas

[tidal geyser]

Rocm is the new shit

[swift moss]

2 weeks ago Mf 🫠🫠

[swift moss]

Rocm is native and no-one uses it 😭😭

[plush wren]

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExajd1cGdjZmQ4cXBrcjc1NW03emllOGljOTk3eWR2ajVlcHdhbmhzMCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/NfzERYyiWcXU4/giphy.gif

[tidal geyser]

Amd can't support zluda as they can get sued to hell if they did so
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1elmie8/open_source_amd_gpu_implementation_of_cuda_zluda/

[steel umbra]

maybe if we nuke nvidia hq no sue then

[swift moss]

Yeah lol, that's why it's open source

[swift moss]

I think bro has witnessed like a lot of murders by now

[oblique jay]

@rigid fjord Would u add anything else or is this plenty?

[plush wren]

the onion

[swift moss]

Oniono Maximo

[gleaming rose]

ahmyan

[gleaming rose]

the onion is peak news

more true than fox 🤣

[steel umbra]

purple onion?

[plush wren]

cap deluxe

[swift moss]

Out here sending advice to people on the WhatsApp

[oblique jay]

Yeah hes like 65 😂

Seems like a nice bloke though, only met him once or twice but my gf likes working with him (mostly) so that's a plus

[golden palm]

How are you gentleman?

[wide mesa]

y’all I have the choice between an rx 6800 and rtx 3080, what would be best for gaming

[gleaming rose]

gentlemen*
but good

[plush wren]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-973109877625339610

[steel umbra]

Spelin eror.*

[gilded imp]

What is he listening to

[plush wren]

slammers

[plush wren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1151983877699670066/1344461705513799780/attachment.gif

[steel umbra]

i think it’s trying to say Overload

[plush wren]

duck n jaw key

[gleaming rose]

chick

how is that a duck

[plush wren]

idk

im not the only one gang

[plush wren]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-shitter-gif-24417796

[gleaming rose]

^ duckling

[plush wren]

its a duck now.

[steel umbra]

i see kfc

[plush wren]

worth it

https://tenor.com/view/dog-side-eye-staring-gif-24666090

[brittle lichen]

hey I havent installed new nvme drives in a while, which style do i use when making a new partition? GPT or Master Boot Record

[terse canopy]

GPT if you can

[gleaming rose]

GPT

[gleaming rose]

https://tenor.com/view/is-it-really-worth-it-cat-eyes-silly-cat-gif-16925827868981149783

[plush wren]

never had boba but probably not

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-cats-of-the-world-cat-watch-hilarious-cat-gif-23544981

[royal stone]

for some reason my taskbar search just wont open, any ideas why?

[plush wren]

restart explorer

[royal stone]

uhhhh how do i do that 💀

[gleaming rose]

log out + log back in

[royal stone]

will try thanks guys

worked thanks guys

[gleaming rose]

fuck windows man

[plush wren]

open task manager find windows explorer (by clicking on any process and keep pressing w until you find it) and click restart

thats just how i do it

[royal stone]

another strangely annoying thing is how buggy my wallpaper engine is since i swapped it from my harddrive to ssd

bit of a nuisance having to load it up by the installer instead of the app like a normal person but i think thats another issue for another day

[gleaming rose]

how many fucking files are there in this google photos export

and i have to do this again too, damn

may as well go set up another selfhosted service while i'm at it

thats a lot of shit to upload

i'm going to have ~9k images on this server when both uploads are done

[bronze jay]

Copilot told me essentially that by the time I need more than 32 gigabytes of RAM, the rest of my system won't be able to keep up. Does this check out? The only resource-demanding task I do is play games.

[gleaming rose]

copilot is stupid and you're stupid for trusting it

32gb of ram is currently the standard amount for all computers because windows is dogshit

[bronze jay]

I don't care about your insults

[gleaming rose]

also more ram is better than less ram anyways

[gleaming rose]

ok? what i said doesnt change

as it stands because web browsers are so demanding you can have 40 tabs open and fill up all 16 gigs

[plush wren]

Buy nice or buy twice

[gleaming rose]

even with games it's better to have 32 since you can have other things open at the same time

[bronze jay]

That doesn't mean you need to be so rude about it

[plush wren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1207706720525226077/1284524911624454225/caption.gif

[bronze jay]

I already have 32

[gleaming rose]

i'm not wrong lmao

[bronze jay]

I was asking about upgrading to 64, which I've decided against

[gleaming rose]

that's like walking up to a doctor and saying "hey the tv said you should give me ozempic"

[bronze jay]

Literally not at all

[gleaming rose]

well, not exactly, but you get the point

[plush wren]

well if you needed it you'd know so

[gleaming rose]

this is a MAJOR pet peeve of mine btw

[plush wren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/859423676457287730/1286737790322868365/2x-1.gif

[bronze jay]

This is also true

[gleaming rose]

i cant imagine being a doctor and having someone walk up to you and say "hey give me this drug i saw it on tv"

i would kick them out

[plush wren]

true, doctors don't give you drugs

[bronze jay]

I mean I'm not blindly trusting it. There's a reason I'm also asking here.

[plush wren]

pharmacists do

[bronze jay]

And yet you're still insulting me

[gleaming rose]

insulting copilot too

[bronze jay]

That's your problem, not mine. I'm going to continue to use it because it's saved me a lot of time and frustration.

[gleaming rose]

pretty much a google search top result would give you the same (correct) advice i just gave

[bronze jay]

Copilot said exactly the same thing

[plush wren]

https://tenor.com/view/judgement-cat-cat-angry-cat-cat-face-cat-forehead-gif-4731341898773190051

[gleaming rose]

copilot just gives outdated information

[gleaming rose]

???

[bronze jay]

You're thinking of chatgpt

[gleaming rose]

literally 32gb of ram has been useful since 6th gen intel

[bronze jay]

Chatgpt only has the information it was trained on. It's not connected to the Internet like copilot

[bronze jay]

I HAVE 32

[gleaming rose]

i cant fucking read i am so sorry

[bronze jay]

It's alright lol

[gleaming rose]

😭

[bronze jay]

Just chill, yk

We're good

[plush wren]

https://tenor.com/view/chillin-relaxing-sunbathe-parfait-slurp-gif-14244378

[gleaming rose]

yeahyeah i mean it really depends honestly, i think that more than 32gb can be useful but honestly past that point i'd just make a swapfile

then if the swapfile isnt good enough buy from there

[plush wren]

i dont think ill need to upgrade for like 3 yrs at least

actually idk the future

[gleaming rose]

your system will keep up, this still holds

[bronze jay]

It told me that if I'm using all 32 gigabytes of RAM then unless it's because I'm editing video or something like that then it will be a workload my current hardware can't handle anymore

[gleaming rose]

what is your current hardwarte

honestly adobe and those suites really just need a ton of ram more than anything

[bronze jay]

R9 5900x, RTX 4070

[gleaming rose]

yeah no your hardware will keep up just fine

it's just a matter of buying only if you need it

[bronze jay]

I'm worried about the future and I just want to make sure I'm happy with my specs for now because the way I see it, it's going to be at least 10 years before I can buy a new computer. Not because of how things are, but because they will continue to get worse.

[gleaming rose]

should you run out of memory try making a pagefile/swapfile first and see how that goes

i just have a 64gb one at all times so that if i run out my memory my desktop environment doesnt go to shit

because gnome has a tendency to just freeze your whole computer if you run out of ram

[plush wren]

im editing and my premiere doesnt reach 20gb

[bronze jay]

One 64 gigabyte ram card

Single channel, let's go

[plush wren]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pog-moment-swaggers-gif-20558299

[bronze jay]

That's good, but what resolution

[plush wren]

i record on phone sometimes fhd sometimes 4k

[slim atlas]

hey guys, i need a new monitor and been looking around at a few, does anyone have suggestions for under 300$ cad?

[bronze jay]

Remember to put your ram in the two closest slots next to the cpu

[plush wren]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fire-flamethrower-burn-on-fire-gif-7684110515453159552

[bronze jay]

Do not skip slots, just use the two closest ones

[plush wren]

Why

[bronze jay]

Because then it will run worse

[plush wren]

No

[bronze jay]

Always glue your ram in case someone tries to break into your house and steal it

[neon bobcat]

Is it possible to passthrough a Geforce M4000 to an Unraid VM?

[plush wren]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

[bronze jay]

No

Yes

No

[neon bobcat]

...

Helpful?

[wispy thunder]

nobody wants to steal ddr3

[white patrol]

Pushed my old windows 7 machine to tge maximum, crysis in high settings ran better than this lol

Witg mc shaders ofc

[wispy thunder]

first, M4000 is a quadro not a geforce card (just being annoying). Second, yes

now the specific steps to make it work vary from system to system cause yes

[oak token]

I used a windows 7 computer for everyday use up to 2024

[random gyro]

o.o

[white patrol]

Hm yeah, it was first an 8.1 machine but i didn't want to dove into tgat hellhole so i chose windows 7 and it runs greater tgan 10, 11 or 8.1

[ocean axle]

860m
potato

[low sage]

Anyone got any monitor calibration tips to fix a yellow hue? Or should I just get a coloromiter

[oak token]

Windows 7 is peak microsoft windows, I use word 2010 and stuff on my windows 11 computer, that Era is just awsome

[white patrol]

Its from 2013, and its not even my main

And also 860m is preak change my mind

[random gyro]

Even the Radeon 860m iGPU schould be about twice as fast 😄

[white patrol]

Yup

[ocean axle]

i stand by my statement of 860m potato

[white patrol]

Your taste of gpus are bland

[ocean axle]

?

[random gyro]

Wait, yall talking about the GTX 680m no?

[ocean axle]

that too

also potat

[random gyro]

Ah i menat GTX 860M

[white patrol]

Did a lil oopsie and forgor a word

[random gyro]

Yes

[ocean axle]

o'rlly?

[white patrol]

Yup

The 860m when overclockesd was a beast of its time and is still an elderly beast

[random gyro]

My Brothers Laptop has a GTX 960M and a i5 6300HQ.

That is a Potato

Even the N100 is better today

[ocean axle]

i have a GTX 285, a flagship of its day card, its a potato now

[random gyro]

I should have a GTX 260 somewhere in my basement alongside a few Core2Duo Mainboards

[white patrol]

With the 860m i can play stray in stable fps

[ocean axle]

i only have old GPUs, i get rid of old systems

[white patrol]

https://media.tenor.com/2xOPX-koIPYAAAAM/sv_cheats-gmod.gif

[random gyro]

I dont even feel my GPU Upgrade besides i can now turn RT on. Tho i AM now CPU limited....maybe a tiny bit?

[warm sage]

guys what pc case is jesse's pc from breaking bad

[sinful cobalt]

time for u to do a reverse image search to find out

(Its bcs i also have no clue)

[gilded sparrow]

im in a mental dilemma so I have a choice between upgrading psu or ram I plan upgrading my gpu later to a 5070 around Christmas time so what should I upgrade first

[swift moss]

NZ emergency alert chat

a thunderstorm alert for a non existent thunderstorm

[random gyro]

If you dont buy a 5070 you can probably afford both

I mean after all it only has 12GB of VRAM and a shitton of Problems

[gilded sparrow]

i plan on getting for Christmas my build isn't ready for it

[gilded sparrow]

i have a rx6600 rn i need to upgrade

[random gyro]

Yes understood. What about a RX 7800 XT or a 9070?

[tardy jay]

So I own an old motherboard, would it be worth anything if I bought a compatible cpu for it. Or should I just save up my money for a modern motherboard?

[gilded sparrow]

looked at 7800 if I'm upgrading I'd want the newest Gen and the 9070 was another option

[outer marlin]

new egg is on something

[gilded sparrow]

who is buying that

[outer marlin]

7 people

[gilded sparrow]

lol

[tardy jay]

Yeah when it was modern

30 years ago

[random gyro]

Newest gen is worth nothing if you lack the VRAM to run the latest and greates ya know? Also all the Problems NVIDIA is having at the moment... i would at least. Or better, just buy AMD for now if youre not dependend on NVIDIA for work or other Applications

[gilded sparrow]

im not

[random gyro]

Thats good

[gilded sparrow]

but rn im i gotta get my PC ready running a 550 w psu

[random gyro]

Can you list the parts you have in your PC right now? even the old RAM and PSU please

[outer marlin]

all the reviews were from the Great gpu shortage of the 2020's

[random gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/elrond-i-was-there-gif-10950832

[gilded sparrow]

i pick psi or ram rn i have a cx 550 and then 4800 patriort signature with a r5 7600

so I'm split between my bad ram or my bad psu

[random gyro]

oh damn. Who gave you 4800 MT/s RAM man? Thats a crime

is it at least 32gigs?

[tardy jay]

I was there, I just thought it was normal

[outer marlin]

same i didnt know nothing about pcs then

[gilded sparrow]

yes 32 gigs and tbf alot of people still game on 3200

[outer marlin]

thats ddr4

[tardy jay]

“A 500$ 3060? Seems reasonable to me”

[outer marlin]

4800 is slow for ddr5

[random gyro]

Yeah but thats DDR4. 4800 DDR5 is holding a 7600 Back like 2133 DDR4 a Ryzen 5600

[gilded sparrow]

dnot matter I got my ram for $50 on sale

oonly reason I got it

[random gyro]

But yeah if you already have 32GB, then i would do the PSU first

[unreal geode]

is 5070 worth it to get for 630€

RX 6800 XT IS 500€

[gilded sparrow]

also psu is more fun to upgrade

[random gyro]

Tell me about it, i jsust upgraded from 500W Purepower 11 to Corssair RM750X

[gilded sparrow]

i want modular

[random gyro]

€? Germany?

[unreal geode]

euro

[outer marlin]

such o good deal

[gilded sparrow]

all my cooling is done i think I have 8 fans in my case including my AIO

[random gyro]

And then loose the Cables like half of the used PSU sellers on my Local selling site

[gilded sparrow]

i keep my bosses on display ID keep me in there

[tardy jay]

Is it a fan or a cpu issue if my computer freezes?

[tardy jay]

What should I prioritize in replacing

[random gyro]

Where are you located? USA, Canada, etc

[gilded sparrow]

is it beeping at u

[tardy jay]

No beeps

[gilded sparrow]

uasaunfortunately

[tardy jay]

It just gets warm

[random gyro]

gimme a sec

[gilded sparrow]

preally a cup issue unless fan fail warning is off

[tardy jay]

Like reheated pizza

Well their cheap DiyPc fans

[gilded sparrow]

its probably ur cpu

[tardy jay]

That can make the system freeze?

[gilded sparrow]

fReese up on screen yeah 100%

[random gyro]

So for 80 Bucks i found a Tier A PSU with 650W which should be easy with a 7800XT/9070/5070 with Ryzen 7600. The most Powerhungry Combination (7800 XT + 7600) eats about 400W Max so you should get plenty of headroom

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jZHqqs/adata-xpg-core-reactor-ii-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-corereactorii650g-bkcus

[random gyro]

Next PSU up is a 750W Unit for 89 Bucks

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hCGbt6/thermaltake-toughpower-gf3-tt-premium-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0750fnfagu-4

[gilded sparrow]

this is my pc befor and after AIO

[gilded sparrow]

i donk tgat brand so I don't trust it

[tardy jay]

The added Pink makes it feel evil

[random gyro]

Yeah no. I dont AIOs sorry

[gilded sparrow]

whats wrong with aios

[gilded sparrow]

it was cycling color it just happened to be pink

[swift moss]

we are being bombarded rn

[gilded sparrow]

i haven't seen it go past 70 degrees

[swift moss]

american amber alert moment

there was another to 3 lol

[random gyro]

Brands are nothing. Corsair dont produce PSUs. BeQuiet dont Produce AIOs. They get the units from OEMs like FSP, CWT, HKC, High Power, HEC and so on

[gleaming rose]

this is a weather alert not an amber alert

i fucking love the nws/noaa

[swift moss]

i didnt think americans had them

[gilded sparrow]

uhhhh whos gonna tell him corsair does make psus?

[gleaming rose]

america has some of the best weather tech in the world

[unreal geode]

the most scariest message i got from apple was "liquid detected in your charging port"

[tardy jay]

Didn’t get it

[swift moss]

are you auckland?

[gleaming rose]

yes because apple doesnt send emergency alerts

[tardy jay]

No, and I’m glad I’m not /hj

[gilded sparrow]

tgats not a amber alert, thats for missing children, that is a EAS alert there's a difference

[tardy jay]

And they both scare me to do death

[random gyro]

Nope, Corsair is not a Manufacturer of PSUs. They get the PSUs they use from HEC and CWT mostly

Is like Nokia Smartphones. Theyre made not by Nokia anymore but by TCL

Here is ADATA for example, they also use mostly CWT as you can see

[swift moss]

"light rain"

[gilded sparrow]

bUT they are designed

by corsair

[random gyro]

Nope, Corsair designed nothing. Maybee the Sleeves for the Cables or the design of the Casing

The Quality of a PSU have nothing to do with the Brand you buy it from

[gilded sparrow]

no they are designed by corsair the actual manufacturing of the psus is out sourced like a contract

[gilded sparrow]

i was just saying its from a brand I'm not familiar with so I don't trust it

i will watch reviews on it

[random gyro]

Maybe, but that is not a good or a bad thing. it depends. Also not every Corsair PSU is "Designed" by them.

Like every Brand, Corsair makes good and bad PSUs

[gilded sparrow]

thats what the military does and slot of companies

[gilded sparrow]

idk my cx is great

[random gyro]

Sometimes a Brand makes only bad PSUs tho

[random gyro]

Which one Exactly? CX 2013 is a known Bomb

[gilded sparrow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hCGbt6/thermaltake-toughpower-gf3-tt-premium-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0750fnfagu-4 this is what I'm looking for

[gilded sparrow]

im American I like bombs

[random gyro]

Yes you can also buy this one of course. Its Tier A, the best Tier, like the ADATA

[random gyro]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/edit?gid=1973454078#gid=1973454078

You can look through it yourself. Id recommend nothing but Tier A for your PC

But to spare you the Search, the Cheapest good Tier A PSU is the ADATA atm, after that the GF 3 is also cheap and good

[gilded sparrow]

isee

[wheat spire]

Any good 1440p gaming monitors to recommend? Im looking for it to be IPS and im not sure if i should stick to 27inch or upgrade to 32 or whatever, id preffer it to be 300-350 at most, ofc cheaper is better but i also dont want to miss out on gaming performance and picture quality. i dont care for brand or the looks of the stand or frame

[wheat torrent]

I got scammed for an HDD

[true sequoia]

There's the Vetroo G5 850W 🙂

[wheat torrent]

If he not returning my money I'm pulling up to his university during class on god

[true sequoia]

Same price as the TT GF3 750W

[gilded imp]

??????

[wheat torrent]

What

I'm going to get my money back

Long story short this dude said this hdd is all good, that he tested it and used it only for 2 months. The hdd is broken and he not responding

So I did some digging and found where he studies and I'm going to ask him to refund me in person

[formal sonnet]

Ah, gotcha. Never, ever trust people's word when buying used goods. In fact, never trust anyone's word even when buying new goods. Always "Trust, but verify" everything in life.

[wheat torrent]

TBH I hoped everyone is chill he seemed trustworthy

I have too much trust in people I guess

[wheat torrent]

Should of done that

I'll know better for next time

But I'm not letting it go anyway

Its only 40 bucks but I feel played

I'll give him a second chance then I'm going to have some fun

Going to complain at the university administration, maybe even visit the police

Though I don't think they going to do anything, I have nothing to lose

[ripe spire]

Chat anyone have any idea what the best mini pc would be like Intel nuc form factor to host a mc server reliably? It should have a good cpu and 16gb ddr5 minimum, 32 is better, it should have at least 512gb ssd and an Ethernet port, it should also be very efficient thermal wise, minimising the risk of thermal throttling

[random gyro]

Thats also true, yes

[winter lantern]

should i flip a 3090 ti? i see one for 600 on fb, it even has the box

[formal sonnet]

No - flipping goods is partly what got us into our current wealth divide.

[winter lantern]

it would be flipping the last of my life saivngs so its fine

[formal sonnet]

Oh, well then my answer is a hard no. Gambling the remains of your life savings is not a good idea.

[frigid blade]

Put it all on red

[winter lantern]

i could easily resell it on ebay tho

[high elm]

yeah buy it ig

learn the hard way

1 month wait for a $100 profit

[cursive storm]

im starting to think that these detections might just be false positives bc they havent done anything

[buoyant rampart]

is there a difference from Gigabyte, xfx or asrock RX 7600?

[lapis bay]

question, what's the difference between CPU (TCTL/Tdie) and CPU Die (average) and CPU CCD1 (Tdie) and Core Temp?

for context:
upgraded my rig, so I'm working on fan curves.
originally, the temps were 85c gaming, then dropped to 50-60c, then now it's back to 70-80c.
I thought maybe NZXT cam is just unreliable, so I used HWInfo.

[blazing edge]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/8bT7db thoughts on build?

[granite sundial]

U want cl30 ram

[solar moat]

yay m16d ram

[solar moat]

why?

[granite sundial]

there's a lot cheaper b850 motherboards

[granite sundial]

works better for ryzen, 6000 mt cl 30 is the sweet spot

[solar moat]

stop meming

[random gyro]

uninstall this shit update guys it made my games crash and frames go down by 30%, was wondering why my pc felt so slow

[solar moat]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/xKnq9C

[solar moat]

what cpu/ram you got

[granite sundial]

7600 with 2x16gb 6000 mt/s cl30

[solar moat]

open a game log fps for 5 min with presentmon

then set tcl to 40

and log again

[surreal cipher]

My CPU is stupidly bottlenecked by my GPU at the moment lol

[solar moat]

ok

[granite sundial]

what combo

[surreal cipher]

I bought a Ryzen 7 9800X3D, and used the RTX 2080 from my older PC

[granite sundial]

why did u buy a 9800x3d

[surreal cipher]

Graphics card prices are so silly atm, i can't bring myself to replace it yet...

[granite sundial]

ur gonna buy a new GPU soon right, right?

u bought a 9800x3d with no plans to buy a new GPU

[surreal cipher]

That is the plan yeah

[granite sundial]

u could have gotten a 7600 and had 500 more dollars to go towards a GPU

[surreal cipher]

but with how crazy the new GPU prices are, I haven't hit the button yet.

[granite sundial]

hint it's not getting any better

try and get a 9070xt for as close to MSRP as u can

[surreal cipher]

I was actually CPU bottlenecked in some games.

My old CPU was an i7 8700. FF7 Rebirth did run noticeably better when I got the 9800X3D

but yeah, I have a weird GPU/CPU combination atm lol.

[granite sundial]

I would have gotten a 7600

500 bucks cheaper

that's more than a third the way to a 9070xt

oh wait even more in us

[livid fern]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/bGJp99/corsair-rm750x-shift-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-side-interface-atx-power-supply-cp-9020251-na
Raw

[surreal cipher]

Well, I do plan to buy a new GPU, I just don't have specific plans yet lol

[granite sundial]

PSU is one of the only components that will last multiple upgrades

it's not so bad to spend a bit extra to get one that will last

[livid fern]

Well u need sfx anyway for m2

[livid fern]

The thing is rmx is way better than agl

[surreal cipher]

My i7 8700 would have bottlenecked any modern GPU, so I figured it was best to replace the CPU first.

[granite sundial]

idk if u can get 5080s close to MSRP but u can with a 9070xt if ur close to a microcenter

[livid fern]

Alrighty rmx will not likely fit even. Some do with specific mobos and gpus

[granite sundial]

yeah I wouldn't get a weird form factor psu

a good PSU can last ten years

don't lock urself down with something that's not gonna fit in a ton of cases

[golden sage]

Cheapest i've seen so far is $1,795 SGD ($1,368USD) for a PNY 5080

[livid fern]

Yeah but we aint going agl. Loud as balls

Wait

Its montech king 95 pro. It fits there
No problem

My PCPartPicker had m2 sff case

[granite sundial]

and I thought I over paid for my 4080 super

but I also did get one of the most expensive models

[indigo basin]

i paid for the CPU, i shall use the CPU 👍

[golden sage]

ohh, honestly with the 10GB 3080 already starting to give me issues im kinda stuck, people did tell me to look at 9070XT too but the model i want is always out of stock too Lol

[proper gull]

Windows on a server... Running a Minecraft server via the desktop....

[indigo basin]

windows server refused to install and linux just didnt work

[proper gull]

Skill issue

[indigo basin]

couldnt be bothered fixing it

[indigo basin]

honestly probably right

[tardy jewel]

Hi! Where do I post if I need some help with the fans on my case? Need to know what’s the best— exhaust or intake for the top fans. I would like to send a picture so people can understand better

[proper gull]

Definitely.

[indigo basin]

minecraft server hungry

c2me and dimthread

[random gyro]

Disabling A2DP hardware offload is the key!

[empty quartz]

huh

[plush radish]

help pls, i dont know how to fix

i use fabric java 1.21.5 w/ 200 mods

[long goblet]

is a staticmethod available to the class object? or only the instance?

[empty quartz]

you're contradicting the crash log

[plush radish]

this is what it gave me

[empty quartz]

very clearly says 324

[plush radish]

ig 300+

[empty quartz]

thats about 124 more mods than 200

[plush radish]

i just need this fixed

i've serached the internet

nothing

[empty quartz]

its a mod conflict

[plush radish]

which mods

[empty quartz]

how would i know

error code 1 when you crash with mods installed usually means a conflict

[formal sonnet]

Contact whomever made the modpack you're trying to launch.

[granite sundial]

model doesnt matter just get the cheapest one

[plush radish]

i made it myself

[graceful girder]

das a lotta cores mate

[formal sonnet]

In that case, you'll need to check the logs to determine which mod is causing this. If you're uncertain how to do this, start removing mods one at a time until it launches.

[swift moss]

whyyyyy

[random gyro]

Turns out inconsistent aac quality on android is specific to the hardware encoder. Turning that off eliminates it so it used the software encoder which will just use the max possible bitrate.

[plush radish]

f##k

[indigo basin]

your actually better off bisecting

[plush radish]

???

[graceful girder]

Aternos?

[empty quartz]

oh, related to that convo

[plush radish]

vanilla fabric @graceful girder

1.21.5

[graceful girder]

which client

[empty quartz]

i completely forgot about that, i had my mind on work

[random gyro]

Yeah lol. 5:30am epiphany

[plush radish]

vanilla launcher @graceful girder

fabric client

[plush radish]

???

[graceful girder]

don't use that for mods, use prism launcher

[whole garden]

delete Not Enough Animation and try it again

[indigo basin]

basically split the mods in half
if the crash goes away, the issue is in that half

you repeat over and over until you find the mod

[plush radish]

alr

[indigo basin]

it's much faster than doing it one by one

[tardy jewel]

Hi guys, I made a post in the tech support section. Would love some help and opinion from all of you <3

[plush radish]

someone just said in another server that arthropods is broke

[plush radish]

thx for the method tho

incase it happens again

[indigo basin]

np

[random gyro]

What the shit. The clarity 🤯

[fickle ivy]

i have never set up windows hello, nor has the main microsoft account on this device

[random gyro]

just put ur pin to unlock ur pc

[fickle ivy]

thats the problem, it isnt that

[random gyro]

oh well

[fickle ivy]

so, can i just not play the game i purchased?

man fuck microsfot

i actuall yhate them so much

[winter lantern]

js use common sense

windows is goated

[fickle ivy]

debated swapping to linux just so i didnt have to deal with their bullshit OS

[fickle ivy]

?

[random gyro]

damn

[mellow cairn]

ugh. annoying bullshit

[random gyro]

It's telling you to get a 9070 XT

[stoic ferry]

does anyone have experience with HP Victus laptops?

[mellow cairn]

somehow I expect the result would be the same 😛

[stoic ferry]

looking for a laptop to use in uni, found this https://www.amazon.ae/i5-13420H-4050-6GB-Graphics-Original-Packaging/dp/B0DPMPM22C , good deal at that price but ive heard Victus quality control is questionable

[warped quiver]

Should I use a MSI mag A650BN or a XPG pylon 650 Watt?

[latent pasture]

theyre abt the same quality so whichever is cheaper

[latent pasture]

seems good imo

[junior valve]

nvidia showcase build

[random gyro]

Limiting 5090 power to 60% , is the cable melt risk same as 5080?

[junior valve]

only the astral dont melt

[random gyro]

Why?

[junior valve]

better voltage control

[random gyro]

You can monitor it you mean?

Or it wont melt in general? @junior valve

[stoic ferry]

think i might cop it, if the other lenovo LOQ one im looking at doesnt sell out before i can order it

[junior valve]

less likely to melt

astral is like the top teir

[stoic ferry]

https://www.amazon.ae/Lenovo-LOQ-15IAX9-i5-12450HX-Eng-Backlit/dp/B0D83VBTF5

[latent pasture]

ye i saw that when i searched other 4050 laptops but didnt mention it bc the store is rated quite a bit lower
the LOQ (the older version with the power button in the middle) is the good one

[solar moat]

RIP 2dpc

[clever burrow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TJv2Zc this a good build?

[trail canyon]

Monitor wont turn on/display, but is detected by hdmi and shows up in speccy/device manager. and also Im able to mouse over there just cant see it. Monitor is 9 years old. Any quick tips, am I cooked? Would a fix include soldering? (Model S24E510C)

[unreal meadow]

Hi. does anyone know what these cable sorting things are called?

[junior valve]

2 sticks of ram is overrated

[formal sonnet]

Cable Comb.

[solar moat]

yes i love quad channel or more but i dont like 2dpc

[unreal meadow]

Than kyou

[latent pasture]

meh you can save on a bunch of stuff and add another $100 to ur gpu budget or something

[clever burrow]

regarldless would it still be a good pc

[latent pasture]

the cheaper the build the more worth it is to budget correctly since every little change can contribute to a better pc

[livid fern]

Not yet

[latent pasture]

with the context that you could get essentially the same looks, rgb etc etc but have a gpu that performs 20% better for the same price, lol no

no case deserves to be over $100 its just a box

[clever burrow]

it is?

im ngl i havent checked the price in like 2 weeks

[clever burrow]

im tryna get a geforce gpu

[unborn ginkgo]

hey guys whats the best am5 prosssesor under 200 bucks?

[latent pasture]

7600 or 7500f if u dont need igpu

[clever burrow]

what gpu

[unreal meadow]

Hi guys is a 6gb vram 3050 okay for 1080p?

[unborn ginkgo]

ok also doesnt the r5 8500 have the same performance as the r5 7500f?

[limpid dune]

warning: the 3050 6GB is drastically different than the 3050 8GB

but yeah, 6GB VRAM is reasonable, but you'll hit the limit on some games

[limpid dune]

no, the 8000 series has different cache and I think the 8500 has a P/E setup instead of all-P like most Ryzens

[latent pasture]

very very no, heck it sometimes loses to the r5 5600 which is zen3 and on ddr4 ram
if u really need to cheap out get 8400f or 8600g not 8500g

[sinful cobalt]

no, 8000 series has less cache and locked PCIE lanes

[latent pasture]

ye it has only 2 zen4 and 4 zen4c
and it only has x4 lanes for the gpu

[unborn ginkgo]

ok thank you very much for your help

[latent pasture]

r u in usa? will you be buying this at the prices in the list? cuz if so u can switch up the list and afford 5060ti 16gb in the same price

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZkKLYd

[clever burrow]

i am in usa

[clever burrow]

5060??

[latent pasture]

ti 16gb

[limpid dune]

damn, that's an upgrade 😎

[latent pasture]

the corsair rm750e has no price bc i didnt change it
but even if u changed it to a psu with price, its still abt the same as ur list, which also doesnt have a price for rm750e anyway

[sinful cobalt]

@wheat field o ye tdy u in sg?

[clever burrow]

for some reason the prices keep disappearing

[latent pasture]

well the market changes
it goes out of stock etc

thats why ytou only make a list if ur very close or about to buy

useless to make a list of ur future pc bc u dont have a time machine

[limpid dune]

I was planning on a 7700X but I upgraded to a 7900X3D because of a massive sale lmaoo

(this was about a year ago)

I don't need an education fund, but I do need four 5060Ti 16GBs for training AI

[sinful cobalt]

https://youtu.be/-qbylbEek-M?si=TVrvF7I_CKfwgx6c

yea

[limpid dune]

ideally something Arc, but yeah, a 3050 would do well

or Intel iGPUs, but the nasty part of an Intel iGPU is that it's attached to an Intel CPU 😅

[sinful cobalt]

by the will of the ark

[limpid dune]

I've dropped an i5-7500 into my homelab and its UHD630 is genuinely really good for transcoding

intel encoding is just kind of goated

nvidia also good

but AMD encoding is... I mean it works, but the entropy is not good

[unreal meadow]

In what way?

[sinful cobalt]

its almost here

[limpid dune]

there was a big controversy when it came out because, yeah, the 3050 6GB has a completely different core with far fewer shaders than a 3050 8GB, so there's a big difference in performance

unlike, for example, the 4060Ti 8GB/16GB, which have exactly the same core

[unreal meadow]

alright i see

[limpid dune]

the "3050 6GB" should really be the "3040"

[sinful cobalt]

5060 should be named “5030”

its a glorified display adapter

that can trace rays in 240p

[unreal meadow]

the 5060ti 16gb bencmarks were quite impressive no?

[limpid dune]

I mean... there are no bad GPUs, only bad prices

[unreal meadow]

better than the 7800XT in some areas?

[limpid dune]

I think the 5060Ti is a very good card, honestly. consider that the median GPU ATM is a 3060x I do wish it was cheaper tho

[unreal meadow]

right yeah

[limpid dune]

and I think the 16GB variants will last a long time

[unreal meadow]

i think it would be better to wait awhile fot the prices to drop

[dapper light]

Problem is 5060ti 16GB MSRP is a lie

[warped quiver]

Does a PSU support every motherboard?

[unreal meadow]

depends what they are

i guess it should\

[warped quiver]

Could you help me tell if mines compatible or not?

[unreal meadow]

sure

[warped quiver]

Im gonna buy a psu

[unreal meadow]

whats the mobo and psu model?

[warped quiver]

Im gonna buy a xpg pylon with my gigabyte h610m k

[sinful cobalt]

nope its barely above 7700xt

[limpid dune]

usually, yes. the ATX power supply is basically standard since the 90s

[unreal meadow]

i saw it was better in a yt benchmark video

[warped quiver]

M okay

[sinful cobalt]

prob nvidia sponsored title

[unreal meadow]

wasnt listed as

[warped quiver]

I bought a aerocool lux psu on another day and it's not compatible with my rx5700xt

[unreal meadow]

pictures

[warped quiver]

Its missing one more pcie 6+2 connectors

[unreal meadow]

oh

[unreal meadow]

yeah some psus have more or less of the same connector

[warped quiver]

So that was a solid 50 bucks wasted.

[sinful cobalt]

i think in racing titles like ACC and lemans nvidia is better

9070 series drivers rn for acc and LMU lose out alot to nvidia

[unreal meadow]

ah i see

it really pisses me off how people benchmark mostly AAA games only and not the insanely popular games

it doesnt really help to tell the performance

but it seems the 4070 12gb does better than the 5060ti 16gb

[limpid dune]

when comparing 4000 series to 5000 series, the cores are pretty much identical 😅

*in terms of gaming perf. NOT in terms of computation or memory bandwidth or architecture

[wicked spruce]

you cant return it?

[hallow cypress]

old nvme ssd: https://www.amazon.com.au/Crucial-NAND-NVMe-PCIe-M-2/dp/B07J2WBKXF

new nvme ssd i might consider getting: https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B0DBR3DZWG/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ANEGB3WVEVKZB&th=1

too good to be true?

why is it so cheap?

[rigid fjord]

plenty tbh, a nas can be set to back up to a cloud service as it is, so they can send to their nas, and the nas sends a copy of it to the cloud

[rigid fjord]

qlc nand, hard pass, get a sn580/nm710/nm760/nm790/mp44l

[hallow cypress]

what is a qlc nand/

[sinful cobalt]

yes

[hallow cypress]

and what do you recommend thats around 50-100 dollars AUD?

[rigid fjord]

one of 4 types of nand used to make up the storage media on a ssd, you'd want tlc nand for the better endurance it has

[rigid fjord]

like i said, sn580/nm710/nm760/nm790/mp44l

cras 910 also

[hallow cypress]

which do you like the most?

[rigid fjord]

a wd sn580 mainly

[latent pasture]

bruh crucial p1 is oooold
and pretty bad
its like their first nvme lmao

[rigid fjord]

though you need to ensure the firmware is up to date on it

[graceful girder]

old yea
bad not really

[hallow cypress]

https://www.amazon.com.au/Western-Digital-SN580-Internal-Solid/dp/B0C8XMH264/ref=sr_1_3? so this?

[rigid fjord]

yup

[rigid fjord]

the p1 was a trash ssd

[graceful girder]

was, good for the price tho

[hallow cypress]

so would it be worth the upgrade from a ct500?

[latent pasture]

is ur ssd actually having problems

[graceful girder]

just my opinion, it gets the job done

[rigid fjord]

what you was using was a 500gb crucial p1, and yes

[hallow cypress]

alr then

my current ssd gets to 100% and sometimes my system freezes when i extract a zip file, to answer mi3nshel's question

[rigid fjord]

nope, not really

people need to learn better storage management

[grizzled frost]

why have storage management when you can have raw capacity beyond what you could ever use

[latent pasture]

hmmm

[rigid fjord]

because storage management does involve this

[graceful girder]

what's wrong with it tho?

[clever burrow]

is crucial p3 good tho

[grizzled frost]

qlc nand

autocorrect why must you do that to me

[rigid fjord]

it's a qlc nand drive like the p1 with a little more speed, so no

[rigid fjord]

well i be australia

[latent pasture]

not at its price

[granite sundial]

do i need a monitor arm if i dont have a standing desk? i just want more desk space cuz the standards my monitors came with take up a lot of space

it also needs to be able to hold very heavy monitors, my main monitor is 13 pounds

[sweet igloo]

is it supposed to be like this

[formal sonnet]

Only you can answer this question. Personally, I like having both my Dell U2715H monitors on a single arm as it allows me to use all of the desk space underneath them.

[mellow cairn]

Two seperate arms also allows this and gives more flexibility

[mellow cairn]

Every monitor needs a monitor arm

[formal sonnet]

Only if the arms are made of rubber though. 😏

[wicked spruce]

is this true?

i cant decide between mini led VA or IPS

[hallow cypress]

my motherboard has a pcie 3.0 nvme drive. can it support a 4.0 nvme drive?

[forest reef]

Yes, pcie is backwards compatible

[hallow cypress]

will the speeds be different?

[elder quarry]

Likely not

[forest reef]

Yeah, u will be limited to gen 3 speeds

[elder quarry]

But the SSD will probably not use 4GB/s

[hallow cypress]

my old drive's write speed is 900mb/s and my new drive's write speed is 4000mb/s

my new drives read speed is also 4150mb/s

[forest reef]

Then it would cap at about 3500mbps r/w

[hallow cypress]

oh thats not bad

i wish i had a better motherboard but oh well lol

[forest reef]

Why u upgrading from ur old drive

[hallow cypress]

freezes when im extracting zip files and is a bit slow when downloading games

also its 500 gigabytes more storage

[forest reef]

Ah, how much storage is filled

[hallow cypress]

and i have nothing to lose (i can sign into steam and everything)

[forest reef]

Also what's the name of the drive

[hallow cypress]

i mean rn most of my games are on my hard disk drive

Western Digital WD Blue SN580 1TB is the new one

Crucial P1 500GB is the old one

[forest reef]

Good ssd, but u may need to update firmware

[hallow cypress]

of what? motherboard?

[forest reef]

Ssd https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/western-digital-releases-fix-for-windows-11-24h2-bsods-users-are-strongly-advised-to-update-their-ssd-firmware

[tidal geyser]

ssd

[median warren]

Solid state drive

[hallow cypress]

oh im using windows 10 2021 ltsc

[tidal geyser]

sim stores data

[hallow cypress]

im assuming that doesnt apply to me?

[tidal geyser]

should still do it

[median warren]

Lmao

[hallow cypress]

how do i even do it lol

[tidal geyser]

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=how+to+update+sn580

[hallow cypress]

alr thanks i'll do that once it comes tommorow

[tidal geyser]

o wait its a brand new ssd

if so eh still best to update it but that issue was a while ago so every new drive should be updated

[hallow cypress]

but that issue isnt on windows 10 right?

[hallow cypress]

wait i just updated my current ssd and everything loaded up alot quicker is this just placebo?

[tidal geyser]

well you are going to have to move to 11 at some time

[hallow cypress]

nope

not until 2029 iirc

thats what makes ltsc so good

[tidal geyser]

i woud still move to 11

i was on the hate train until i tried it and loved it

[hallow cypress]

eh but 10 ltsc is debloated

[tidal geyser]

so you save like 20GB?

[hallow cypress]

yea

i mean it comes with the bare minimum

not even winget came with it

let alone the microsoft store lol

[tidal geyser]

o wow

[hallow cypress]

yeah

it only had microsoft edge

and i can delete that anyways with a script