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tidal geyser
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yea software raid ass

solid osprey
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yh

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i alr got 2 machines running proxmox

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figured i should get a 3rd for backup

azure topaz
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okay i’m done doing 7zip i got a decent score

gleaming rose
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09:00.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AIC-7850T/7856T [AVA-2902/4/6 / AHA-2910] (rev 03)

hell yea it works

frigid blade
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@azure topaz it passed

azure topaz
wheat spire
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Hi all, question regarding the Ryzen 7 9800x3d, is it safe to buy it for a build right now? im seeing lots of post about them dying n stuff

frigid blade
azure topaz
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probably won’t work without a lot of dram vdd/q

frigid blade
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what if we up it to 1.4

azure topaz
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tcl scales with voltage really well, but voltage means heat, which makes trefi unstable

azure topaz
frigid blade
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so how else can we get the ram faster?

azure topaz
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change other timings lol

stoic nova
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Install Linux

frigid blade
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thats the ratio that you want low right? FSB:DRAM

limber nacelle
azure topaz
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irrelevant for intel

hasty dock
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I'll be building my first NAS next month.
I just bought three 12 terabyte hard drives. And plan on setting them up in hex OS and raid 1. So my understanding is that I'll have 24 terabytes of usable space when I get this upper running. Is that correct?
It is the next step that I'm in more need of help. Let's say that after a month of that setup that I want to add three more 12 TB hard drives. What happens then in terms of how much space is allotted to redundancy? Out of the 72 TB will 24 be set aside for redundancy? The case I have can hold 15 hard drives and my plan is to eventually fill it up. In the end how much space would be set aside for redundancy versus how much is usable. Thank you

azure topaz
limber nacelle
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running faster than my shi too

azure topaz
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can i see hwinfo

frigid blade
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its gear 2 tho

azure topaz
azure topaz
limber nacelle
frigid blade
limber nacelle
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if it's stable it just works for me

azure topaz
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yes

azure topaz
frigid blade
azure topaz
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oh he knows whats up lol

frigid blade
azure topaz
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thanks shawty

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trfc is definitely next i need to do math for it rq tho

frigid blade
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ill learn more as we do this so i dont have to bother you so much about it

limber nacelle
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there's something wrong with this install that causes a literal singular program to instantly BSOD my pc

azure topaz
frigid blade
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i forgot to install the IoT version, so its a bloated install

stoic nova
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I mean....

limber nacelle
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i really don't think my issue is hardware related so

frigid blade
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Oh, sorry, i was just saying that because i said id do it and forgot to

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i switched to professional though, cuz home doesnt support 192, only 128 max

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it will boot just fine, but only shows 128 possible to use of the 192

azure topaz
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142.8 and some cchange worth of ns

frigid blade
azure topaz
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i think mdie is good for 135ns latency but this is on the safer side so theres less messing with it

limber nacelle
frigid blade
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Would there be a big performance difference between 5600 and 5800 at the current timings?

azure topaz
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no

frigid blade
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Is it linear?

limber nacelle
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why are you running 192gb btw?

azure topaz
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no

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high speed = more bandwidth and less latency (all good)

frigid blade
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Went overkill so I don’t have to touch it again

limber nacelle
azure topaz
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however. HOWEVER. high speed is also very hard on your memory controller and this is further compounded by dual rank and quad dimm (your scenario) so you are not going to get a high memory spede in any scenario without a long fight with your motherboard

frigid blade
limber nacelle
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interesting

azure topaz
frigid blade
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It’s not official GPU partitioning, I like the term someone used earlier, you’re bullshitting the system

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No mods or anything to drivers either

azure topaz
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yeah

limber nacelle
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oo

frigid blade
azure topaz
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same thing

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intel uses trfc2 register cause its lower on most kits by default

frigid blade
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I don’t see trfc

azure topaz
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trfc2=trfc

frigid blade
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Ah

azure topaz
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trfcpb=trfcpb

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sometimes its trfc and trfc2

frigid blade
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Look good?

azure topaz
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yes

frigid blade
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Alright now we wait

frigid blade
# limber nacelle oo

Yah and you use a virtual display driver to run any quality and frequency you want

azure topaz
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absolutely cooking

frigid blade
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It’ll use sunshine to stream the desktop to a mini pc

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And sunshine + moonlight client forward inputs to the vm

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Very little latency locally, not much over the internet either

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I was able to play gta, rocket league, etc from school

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As long as it’s not WiFi

frigid blade
azure topaz
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a little more lol

frigid blade
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How do you add it up?

azure topaz
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dram freq * 2

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its 7895mhz

frigid blade
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Aha, 8000 MT/s = 4000Mhz

azure topaz
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mhm

frigid blade
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That’s fast

azure topaz
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very

frigid blade
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What’s the performance impact on games tho, have you tried?

azure topaz
frigid blade
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Bruh the memory training is still happening on my system lol

azure topaz
frigid blade
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I wonder if that’s another clear cmos moment

azure topaz
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try 500/400

frigid blade
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I’m waiting for my monitor color to do something

azure topaz
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trfcpb always being 100 lower than trfc2

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you were what 36-44-44-48, 8/8 tRRD_L/S, 16tFAW, 80000 refi, 1.35v

frigid blade
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I’ll let it sit for a bit, I don’t think it crashed because normally it does a post loop

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Refi was like 66565 or something

azure topaz
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oh yeah my fault my daily refi is 80000

frigid blade
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What does refi do?

azure topaz
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basically every couple thousand cycles (whatever you set it to) your ram has to sit for howwever long you set tRFC for in cycles

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and sitting doing nothing is bad

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so if you just fucking tell it "NAH WAIT" its spending more of its time being actually useful

frigid blade
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Weird, some power coming from the pc but not all ports

plain cypress
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Y'all need to get a room

azure topaz
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fuck you buddy

latent gull
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that’s what the rooms for

azure topaz
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trefi/rfc is like the 1 timing combo i can explain

frigid blade
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Discord is a search engine fwiw

plain cypress
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No you're sending TC1 refugees to TC2

frigid blade
gleaming rose
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look yall, i devved & scanned my own film

azure topaz
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opposite day today this is tc2 now

frigid blade
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They should be happy someone is learning something in tc1

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Instead of the bs that goes on in here all day

azure topaz
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fr

frigid blade
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Yah I need to clear CMOS

azure topaz
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yea

plain cypress
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I'm still salty

gleaming rose
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it just turns brown

latent gull
plain cypress
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No he said "oh I think I opened this 3-4 months ago"
Did some research later and it was a year since it was opened

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On chem that has a 3 month shelf life 😭

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The C41 is so much easier to develop tbh

jaunty apex
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I mean they are worth less

azure topaz
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alright well i’m going to the park for a little. if 500/400 doesn’t work add 50 until it does

frigid blade
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50 to the 400 figure?

azure topaz
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both

frigid blade
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Oh, just keep going up?

azure topaz
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ye

frigid blade
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And keep them 100 apart?

azure topaz
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mhm

warped plover
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Should I trust this laptop? They have more 5 star and 4 star reviews than 1 star but why are the 1 star reviews reporting "Had another login" or "malware" or "google drive connected stealing data"

frigid blade
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Alright, thanks, have fun

limber nacelle
gleaming rose
steel umbra
# warped plover This one too plz

if you’re worried about malware that’s preinstalled (unless it’s baked into the motherboard or something) simply fresh reinstall windows

warped plover
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And the youtube reviews are giving mix emotions as well, I watched the top video that says malware and they gave good reviews but said there was malware

plain cypress
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I fucked up by shooting some ektachrome

warped plover
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basically its a functional laptop is what they said

plain cypress
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Now I want more
It's so expensive

random gyro
warped plover
warped plover
steel umbra
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which type

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what does it do

warped plover
distant frigate
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Damn imagine building a data center like this. 10.7 million square feet. Would cost $3B to build. This is in China.

frigid blade
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@azure topaz by default it runs 395/341, is higher better?

solid osprey
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anyone know a reason why this might be happening?

warped plover
distant frigate
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The USA does have the most data centers in the world but definitely not the largest

arctic tapir
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Okay managed to do push pull on the front and tems seem to be better

steel umbra
# warped plover THey dont say

so they can mean anything from uh adware to ransomware, are you sure the brand preinstalls the malware into the laptop

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anyways, warranty exists and return policy exists depending on where you live in the worst case return it

warped plover
steel umbra
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just fresh install windows once you receive the laptop if you’re going to buy it

steel umbra
frigid blade
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I did it again, have to reinstall windows

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It corrupted lol

warped plover
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I hope they dont atleast lie about the performance though

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I know how a ryzen 7 5700u should perform

steel umbra
solid osprey
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why is linux so difficult

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as in like just always having random stupid issues

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ive wasted an hour of my life fixing 2 small issues

frigid blade
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It’s not difficult

steel umbra
solid osprey
random gyro
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Hi dihhheads

frigid blade
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@azure topaz I won’t go further than what I had at 5600 CL36 stable, it’s annoying to reinstall windows each time

warped plover
steel umbra
warped plover
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300-500 US

analog wave
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lenovo ideapad flex 5, for 677€, is it good?

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subjective opinions very much apprechiated

random gyro
jaunty apex
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Lmao

steel umbra
steel umbra
latent gull
analog wave
steel umbra
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c418 underrated

jaunty apex
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Is he?

grave crow
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is it worth to buy 7800x3d? The performance differences with other much cheaper cpu isn't noticable on gaming benchmarks. I can afford the 7800x3d I just don't want to throw my money away

warped plover
steel umbra
# jaunty apex Is he?

i hope you’re not questioning the most best iconic nostalgic musicss ever
or else i’ll nuke ur house

warped plover
random junco
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i got my vivobook (ryzen 9 5900hx + rtx 3050) for £515

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50 percent off

warped plover
random junco
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yhh

coarse solar
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Hey guys, someone gifted me a gtx 970 Asus, to see if i could repair it of use it for parts, it doens´t give display or is recognized by OS or BIOS, PCB inspection looks clear, no damage, when connected fans spin at 100%, but thats all i have..... im not an expert on older gpus, but, what could be the chance that is a Vbios issue???

warped plover
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Sucks that they have malware reviews though, one said its spyware, one said its viruses, its like a roulette

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some say theres none at all

steel umbra
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i don have a recommendation

warped plover
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All good, I guess id have to test the clean reinstall

rigid fjord
steel umbra
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but can be also one of the dozen of components on gpu are ded

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was that 970 gift as for parts or working? or they didn’t mention

warped plover
rigid fjord
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either it's vbios, the core or could be power related tbh @coarse solar

warped plover
coarse solar
steel umbra
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i don’t think the card is worth repairing

coarse solar
coarse solar
steel umbra
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if you think it’s worth your time try flashing the card with le flashing tool

steel umbra
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if your gpu isn’t recognized and you already don’t have a rom flashing tool, yeah i think i would just sell the card for parts

frigid blade
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Oh my god my old windows didn’t corrupt, I enabled VMD on accident and it doesn’t show up as a change when you save settings…

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All I had to do was disable it and boot, but I already installed a fresh version over it

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Actually, it was still corrupted, bunch of stuff is messed up, but I could’ve saved a bunch of files

coarse solar
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If is not too expensive, i may buy one

ripe spire
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@thin plover sorry for ping but I set up the mc server on my laptop and it doesn’t just work, it works well

frigid blade
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W

steel umbra
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but soic8 won’t work with some gpus

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i believe they also started doin the serial number bakin into the chips since rtx 30

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on some cards atleast

mellow cairn
frigid blade
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It’s how we’ll split a 4090 between 3 VMs and mini PCs

mellow cairn
frigid blade
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30% of 4090 performance for a $200 mini pc :P

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It’s gonna be a cool party trick

mellow cairn
frigid blade
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What’s apollo

mellow cairn
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just a nicer/easier sunshine

frigid blade
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Ah

mellow cairn
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bunch of quality of life changes

frigid blade
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Sunshine is pretty simple already no?

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I just wish it supported multi-monitor

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You have to use portable installs if you want that

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Across different ports

mellow cairn
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apollo natively uses a virtual monitor

frigid blade
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Well, you can switch between monitors displayed, but it’s slow

frigid blade
mellow cairn
frigid blade
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It’s probably MikeTheTech’s VDD

distant frigate
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3D Holographic ads? Bruhhh you can’t be serious lmao

frigid blade
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I wanna buy those alternate reality glasses

mellow cairn
stoic nova
random gyro
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What's a good 5090 alternative? 4090? I dislike the lack of Vram in the 5080... (I only purchased basically the NVidia series my entire life. I am dumb in this regard.)

bronze jay
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Should I care that I'm still on 3200mhz ddr4 be real

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Because I can afford to replace it soon if I really should

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I have no frame of reference. I'm still stuck in 2019 and don't know what I'm missing

stoic nova
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Uh. No. You shouldn't. Unless you start caring about your CPU not cutting the cheese anymore.

bronze jay
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My CPU is still better than what I actually need. I have a ryzen 9 5900x and it's completely overkill

stoic nova
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Remove the concept of inadequate ram performance from your mind until CPU becomes not good enough

bronze jay
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Sounds like a plan. Thanks for the advice

stoic nova
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For context. Zen 3 (your cpu and 5000 in general) didn't have very stable behavior beyond 3600mhz DDR4 xmp

bronze jay
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I keep my components stock for longevity

stoic nova
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And beyond that. Well you're upgrading cpus

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That's effectively it's limit

azure topaz
azure topaz
frigid blade
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Oh then idk but it erroring at old stable numbers

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Maybe I changed something wrong a little

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1.35 or 1.4v?

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It might be 1.4 that I had

azure topaz
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1.35 dram vdd and dram vddq

frigid blade
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Weird, well it started erroring again at 24 minutes

azure topaz
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36-44-44-48

azure topaz
frigid blade
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Lemme send you hwinfo maybe I did something wrong

bronze jay
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Secondary.

stoic nova
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More like. Youre at the end of a generation

azure topaz
# frigid blade

you can try 1.4 or 1.45v but chances are it won’t do anything g

bronze jay
stoic nova
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For what your motherboard can offer. You've already got all it can offer

azure topaz
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atp you should be doing longer stresses with TM5 or somethin

empty quartz
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:3

azure topaz
bronze jay
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I just want to make sure that I'm not missing out on significant gaming performance for no reason

rigid fjord
bronze jay
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The CPU itself will handle literally anything I'd want to do

stoic nova
gloomy sleet
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the guy who keeps beating me is currently running home made pedals how is my guy doing this

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he said he made them with free scrap metal and £9 sensors

arctic tapir
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Almost 1000 comfy

rigid fjord
plush wren
gloomy sleet
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he even bought a 100kg loadcell recently for £4

plush wren
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😭

stoic nova
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Wow Im out of the loop

gloomy sleet
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i might have to LC my pedals

stoic nova
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Thanks rauko

gleaming rose
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look at this film scan, i'm still figuring out the editing process but it's not bad so far

rigid fjord
plush wren
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cart

frigid blade
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@azure topaz why go by 2s when changing CL?

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34, 36, 38, etc

rigid fjord
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i need to redo the tuning on my ram so i can play with it running at 3800 @stoic nova

frigid blade
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Ddr4 at 3800? Is that high?

stoic nova
rigid fjord
rigid fjord
frigid blade
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Isn’t that similar speed to ddr5 at 7600 in g2?

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Nice, no errors so far, I changed voltage to 1.36, tRFCpb to 500, tRFC to 550

rigid fjord
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7200mt/s was the highest XOC tuning for ddr4 last time i looked

frigid blade
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That’s pretty fast

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13900kf only pulls 160 watts at max load?

rigid fjord
frigid blade
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Well it’s running 100% usage rn

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5.4Ghz

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Wow, the temp difference between cores can get quite large

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3-4C difference

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Welp, time to wait 55 minutes for this ram test to finish

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I tried running a 70B model last night with the 4090, it’s pretty shit

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Probably because it had to run in DRAM

carmine wigeon
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What are the chances this can run Minecraft

frigid blade
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Minecraft isn’t that hard to run

carmine wigeon
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With an athlon 64, GT8400 GS, and 1gb ddr2?

latent gull
frigid blade
solemn lodge
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Can anyone help me with a tech issue with KeyLinker?

latent gull
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No

grizzled frost
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don't crosspost

frigid blade
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Why dm, just ask here

latent gull
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Don’t crosspost, and no one’s dming you

gleaming rose
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this is a pretty cool photo

random gyro
random gyro
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🙂

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Tho it was only Tested stable with the said BIOS. As soon as i Updated it i could only run at 3866

azure topaz
random gyro
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Funny enough my previous Ryzen 3600 Booted the Kit at 4400MT/s XMP

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But not 1:1 ofc

gleaming rose
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i think this is the best shot i've developed and scanned myself so far

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i'm still trying to figure out what that - haze? is. i think it's pretty cool but some may not

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i think it's about time i shut off my scanner for the night

carmine wigeon
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What are the chances my cpu fries itself if I try overclocking an athlon 64

random gyro
# azure topaz

Thats f#cked. The Penalty of Unsyncing is insane. I mean if you did not pay extra for High Bandwith Memory its fine, but the almost non existent gains arent worth it tbh.

Also 7900X3D oof.

random gyro
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Hope it was at least fun to explore the OC

azure topaz
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i don’t get the comment about high bandwidth memory, that’s one of the highest bandwidth am5 configurations possible lol

random gyro
azure topaz
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dual ccd, relatively high fclk

azure topaz
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ofc that chip can’t and that’s more just for a neat screenshot but

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you can’t boot above 8000 on ryzen 7000 so it’s neat, you have to bclk up

random gyro
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Yeah but the Gains are nonexistent beyond Sythetic benchmarks and even there its not exactly good scaling

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Its sad

azure topaz
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“more just for a neat screenshot”

random gyro
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Yeah yeah as i said i hope it was at least fun and you didnt pay extra for a High Frequency Memorykit just for the Sake of a Screenshot

azure topaz
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kit is rated for 7000, i overclock for fun, i ran 6000 c28 daily on the 7900x3d

random gyro
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Yeah thats fine i guess. Its neat. here in germany you can get 7000/7200 Kits for about the Same Price as 6000

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Both Hynix Chips ofc

azure topaz
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yeah same here i paid maybe 10$ more for the 7000 kit, figured it was worth it cause i know id use the slightly highrr binning quality

gloomy sleet
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i need to get my old ass film shit out

azure topaz
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same kit i run 7200c32 on intel now 👍

sinful cobalt
random gyro
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tho atm theres no Deal on a High Frequency Kit so theyre all more Expensive

https://geizhals.de/?cmp=3204206&cmp=3363878&cmp=2891858&cmp=2829465&active=1

azure topaz
gleaming rose
sinful cobalt
azure topaz
sinful cobalt
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granted it is intel tho

azure topaz
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basic memory overclocking skills, i’ve ran tuned memory on everything i’ve owned even ddr3

sinful cobalt
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actually does intel benefit from these lower latencies?

azure topaz
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more so than amd, amd caps out at bandwidth

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and latency is latency ofc both platforms benefit from less

random gyro
south arrow
azure topaz
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you can reliably do 8000 on basically every chip if you have a 1dpc board

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i’ve seen up to like 9400 on lga 1700 iirc

sinful cobalt
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But on a synthetic benchmark standpoint how much faster would 7000-8000 be than the standard 6000?

random gyro
azure topaz
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in 7zip or ycruncher

random gyro
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Tho the Best Board for MemOC is the Z790I Lightning wifi i heard

azure topaz
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i think any memory record on 1700 is on the encore

random gyro
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idk too much about that, its just what ive heard

azure topaz
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7200 low effort tune

distant frigate
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Camera continent lmaooo

fallen cipher
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ah yes... 171661756203008% utilization. my gpu alone just beat the power of a trillion gpus

random gyro
azure topaz
tulip sparrow
warped plover
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If I was multi streaming, playing a game like last of us at high settings 1080p, having about 3 chrome tabs opened, discord opened and lets say the streamlabs has about 6-10 browser sources, would the ryzwn 7 7800x3d be better than the ryzen 9 9900x?

mellow cairn
warped plover
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still the same?

mellow cairn
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Yes, same

warped plover
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Im hoping the 4 less cores doesnt affect much

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Because there would be apps opened in the background, multi streaming and igh 1080p gaming going on

mellow cairn
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Given that I can do that on my 5700x....

warped plover
sinful cobalt
warped plover
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Im not used to high end cpus so Im not sure how much workload it can really take

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Keep in mind guys, the streamlabs would include like 5 different scenes for both tiktok and twitch multistreams

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browser sources would be included

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still no difference?

mellow cairn
warped plover
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What if I throw in the fact the build would have a RX 7800XT, no nvidia nvenc

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Alright I understand

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Thanks guys

sharp ivy
sinful cobalt
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sure its behind nvidia and intel but its functional and gets the job done

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idk and forgot where I found the data chart but the b580 matches the 4070 in that aspect

haughty thistle
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GIGABYTE B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 Motherboard, Supports AMD AM4 Ryzen 5000 Processors, ATX, DDR4, Dual M.2, SATA 6Gb/s, 2.4/5 GHz Dual-Band, 2.5 GbE LAN, PCIe 4.0 is this mb good?

clear canyon
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Best you get is a 3050 and it's ass for 90% usecases

frigid blade
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@azure topaz is it ok to do odd numbers? Like CL35

frigid blade
clear canyon
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Yes you can but you should go as low as possible

frigid blade
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Like if CL36 is stable, but 34 isn’t, can you try 35

clear canyon
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You want the highest speed with the lowest latency

sand epoch
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are these normally a scam? it's 17,000 inr which is around 200$

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like are they overpriced?

azure topaz
fringe prairie
clear canyon
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it sounds shorter that way

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just like 3'36

sharp ivy
clear canyon
sharp ivy
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Eh?

clear canyon
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a 1060 is pretty bad in 2025

sharp ivy
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It works well for the games I want to play

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so

plain cypress
sharp ivy
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I like it

clear canyon
clear canyon
sharp ivy
left dove
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based, snowrunner

clear canyon
sharp ivy
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although that could be cause of my 8gb ram

clear canyon
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on beamng?

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what resolution

sharp ivy
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minimum requirements are 16gb ram

sharp ivy
cosmic stratus
sharp ivy
cosmic stratus
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probably MY cheapest option to hop on am4 platform

clear canyon
sharp ivy
# clear canyon whats the full pc specs

I7-7700K, ASUS GTX 1060 OC Edition, Corsair Vengeance DDR4, ASrock Z270 Pro 4 Mobo, 240GB SSD, 1TB HDD, HEC 600w PSU, ABS Vortex Leo2 Case, Thermaltake Gravity i2 CPU cooler

clear canyon
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when did u get it?

sharp ivy
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november last year

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it's my first gaming PC

clear canyon
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its not too bad of a price

sharp ivy
clear canyon
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but if it works, it works

sharp ivy
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usually whenever I talk about it on this server

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people yell at me

clear canyon
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lol

sharp ivy
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for not being able to afford a 5090

clear canyon
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would you like me to?

sharp ivy
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"UHH YOUR PC SUCKS" and? I only want to play a certain amount of games

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like

plain cypress
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If the performance is adequate in the games you play then there's no need to upgrade

plain cypress
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Although I wouldn't recommend someone buy a 1060 today in most situations

clear canyon
sharp ivy
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2006 Xbox 360 Force Feedback Wheel

clear canyon
plain cypress
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And usually they aren't

sharp ivy
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pardon the atrocious cable management

plain cypress
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I will not pardon it
Mods, ban them

sharp ivy
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noooo

clear canyon
# sharp ivy

when you have like 50 bucks that you want to spend, you can buy a hotswappable mechanical keyboard and buy custom switches and some cheap mods and have a bad ass keyboard, its super easy

south arrow
sharp ivy
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I have some good keyboard

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I just like my 5.99 one for War Thunder

clear canyon
sinful cobalt
clear canyon
sharp ivy
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although that was after I moved my desk

sharp ivy
clear canyon
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ight

sinful cobalt
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for gaming tho hall effect is absolute domination

clear canyon
foggy violet
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If I have 2 ethernet ports on my pc, can I connect both up to my router? And give priority applications their own line compared to background applications?

I doubt it would help performance much but I'm just curious if it would be beneficial in any practical scenario? 😆

foggy violet
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Lame

mellow cairn
frosty prism
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hey so I own a deepcool aio and when gaming my cpu is at 35 - 45 degrees idle and 65 - 75 while gaming, is that ok? i5 14600kf cpu

foggy violet
clear canyon
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i wouldn't say high fps but around 70fps is what id say

crude blade
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forgot to put the storage back on ther elmao

clear canyon
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70fps no upscaling

crude blade
clear canyon
crude blade
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what on earth is that

clear canyon
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a pc with a much better gpu for just 200 more

cedar hollow
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isn’t it like the same

clear canyon
crude blade
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the 9070 xt competes with the 5070 ti, the base 4080 is better then that??

cedar hollow
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the 4080 is like an fps or two faster

clear canyon
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ok well, nvm lol

warped plover
cedar hollow
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i’d get 9900X

crude blade
cedar hollow
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yes

clear canyon
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i love my 7800x3d so im biased on it, I dont like the 9900x bc of multi ccd

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for gaming

cedar hollow
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well the guy is playing super demanding games while streaming to TWO sources, has a soundboard and discord and everything open

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7800X3D can’t handle allat

clear canyon
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i bet it can lmao

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thats not that demanding

warped plover
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It does sound demanding

clear canyon
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yeah lmao

warped plover
hollow creek
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streaming is not demanding at all for a 7800x3D lmao

warped plover
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Like a 70?

clear canyon
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I daily a 7800x3d and I do several intensive things at the same time

hollow creek
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7600x can do without issues to multiple sources and play demanding titles all at the same time

warped plover
sinful cobalt
cedar hollow
warped plover
hollow creek
sinful cobalt
cedar hollow
sinful cobalt
hollow creek
sinful cobalt
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But wait what res is he playing at

warped plover
sinful cobalt
warped plover
cedar hollow
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I mean you can definitely try but if the threads are hopping around, even if it's not at 100% CPU usage it's gonna affect your game

hollow creek
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youre not streaming in 4k is one thing, game you play still primarily source from 3D cache while having extra core resources available for use. streaming are mostly taxing your gpu except if you specifically move encoding to your cpu.

sinful cobalt
hollow creek
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no way a 7800x3D struggle lmao

crude blade
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i guess 4tb of storage is a little uneccesary

sinful cobalt
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if indeed streaming is CPU taxxing

warped plover
cedar hollow
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Idk I tried my brothers 9700X PC i wasnt really impressed with the multicore stuff, warzone + streaming on discord caused lag

hollow creek
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you dont really stream "twice"

warped plover
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Im just making sure the 7800x3d can do it

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hoping it can because the motherboard it comes with is white lol, matches the build

hollow creek
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which means, you can stream just fine

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that is if you even source your encoding to your cpu

warped plover
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Alright, woud you recommend streaming on the cpu or the gpu

hollow creek
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usually, i let cuda encoding do it instead

warped plover
warped plover
hollow creek
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cuda = nvidia

sinful cobalt
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I think it he’s doing 7800x3d and 7800XT, he should do the streaming on the CPU

warped plover
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Yes

hollow creek
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if youre on amd, you can let your cpu handle your streaming just fine

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no issues at all

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about the opening plenty of background apps, that is more ram side rather than the cpu itself

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youre not really cinebenching and streaming at the same time yes?

warped plover
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No

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music, discord, game and thats rlly it

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chrome maybe to search sum

hollow creek
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my friend stream with a freaking ryzen 5 7640hs while running the same setup as you. youre more than fine

warped plover
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Alright, thanks

hollow creek
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only difference is he runs 4060 mobile and also at 1080p

crude blade
hollow creek
arctic furnace
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Using the McDonald’s zombie hamburglar to prevent gpu sag

hollow creek
arctic furnace
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:3

hollow creek
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late but its better than never lmao

sinful cobalt
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tbh I’d let the cpu handle the stream unless ur up to a 4070 ti super

hollow creek
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honestly its more than fine to go gpu encoding if you have the extra vram

sinful cobalt
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For AMD if its a 7900XT I think I’d let it handle the stream

hollow creek
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otherwise,a 7800x3D is very powerful for a stream pc. heck shit wont even hit peak usage

sinful cobalt
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Its like a 120w max cpu but during gaming its like 50w

hollow creek
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also, letting your cpu handle stream means your gpu can just do game at 1440p

sinful cobalt
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actually if he’s doing 1080p and 7800XT he can go with either

hollow creek
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its a really powerful chip in itself, i dont know why people think an x3D cant handle streaming and multiple apps lmao

sinful cobalt
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1440p and 4K I’d mainly let CPU handle it

sinful cobalt
stone pond
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what MoCa connector is good. im considering upgrading to it from wifi

harsh whale
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Is there a company/startup that makes all in one (pc) TVs?

limber bane
harsh whale
# thorn pewter wym

Like a normal OLED TV but with both a full gaming components integrated and android TV

thorn pewter
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am afraid thats not a thing

harsh whale
thorn pewter
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i mean it could work, just that air flow and compatibility issues would arise

rose stream
thorn pewter
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fancy tv

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am preatty sure lmg made a vid about smthn like this

harsh whale
rose stream
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Wouldn't fit the form factor most tv manufacturers aim for these days.

thorn pewter
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laptops use mobile chips, which work a bit diffrent than standred pc chips, plus its just eaiser to hook up a pc thru hdmi to a tv and do it that way

harsh whale
harsh whale
rose stream
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All because they're the only ones designed with the cooling packaging in mind.

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And those are not particularly thin either in a way tv manufacturers would prefer.

thorn pewter
harsh whale
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If production was possible

proper gull
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You're talking about doubling the cost of a TV just to have a computer in it

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No one would buy this

rose stream
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Which more than likely won't happen.

thorn pewter
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it may sound good, but if hat would ever happen it wont be ever upgradable and it would just be a loss to the company making them

thorn pewter
empty quartz
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@harsh whale why would you even want that?

harsh whale
rose stream
empty quartz
harsh whale
rose stream
empty quartz
harsh whale
empty quartz
harsh whale
rose stream
# rose stream I'd say it's more of a yesn't as an idea for current stuff, to be honest. And I'...

I personally wouldn't find it that appealing to have to buy a whole new tv with console hardware stuffed inside of it, just to try and tackle the challenge of figuring out where I'll even put it and then what I'll do with my dad's tv afterwards.
Ain't no way I'm putting something that big in my room, that's for sure, and most certainly ain't mounting it to any of the walls in here either.

thorn pewter
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cant you just by a mini pc that has a decent igpu and then mount it on the back of the tv and do it that way ?

empty quartz
rose stream
thorn pewter
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just diy mod on ur tv and then fit the cooling and io for it in youere tv and then thats what you basicly want

thorn pewter
rose stream
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If anything though, you want a real challenge, just... Build your own game console instead. It's actually not that fun to screw around with tvs with how they're set up, unless you can afford to do literally everything custom without a hassle.

harsh whale
thorn pewter
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thats what i said....

empty quartz
thorn pewter
rose stream
thorn pewter
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i shoudl try that one day lol

empty quartz
harsh whale
thorn pewter
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30 usd max i would pay for a og phat xbox one tbh

rose stream
thorn pewter
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atp, just make a rasbery pi arcade cabnit

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that would be rad

rose stream
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Not worth it to me as there are waaay too many of those.

thorn pewter
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true

rose stream
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In many forms and specifications much too similar.

harsh whale
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My idea is still good on paper, just not functionally. But tbh sounds like a good project

rose stream
thorn pewter
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just make a quad pi cluster and call it a day smh

rose stream
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Those also exist a-plenty and are not suitable for that kind of application in that configuration.

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AND they don't fit in a small enough package either, since a stack of those ain't supposed to anyway.

thorn pewter
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or build a pi super computer 🙂

rose stream
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Not my aim goal or interest.

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You could however if you want that so much.

thorn pewter
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you definitely could

rose stream
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Which I still don't want to do anyway. Lmao.

thorn pewter
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if i gave you a ras pi right now, what would you do with it?

plush wren
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throw it in a river

rose stream
elder quarry
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It’s using a raspi

plush wren
elder quarry
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Gonna mess with it some day

elder quarry
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Very small

plush wren
elder quarry
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Doesn’t have an enclosure

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I hope I can keep my eyes

thorn pewter
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unless i need any sort of micro projects ras pi now js dont make sence to me at all

plush wren
thorn pewter
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i would rather use a freedom board instead and make cool shi😎

plush wren
thorn pewter
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now world domination time

plush wren
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keep that shit locked up

thorn pewter
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no

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never

harsh whale
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WTF is FiveM on

plush wren
plush wren
thorn pewter
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146%KEKW

elder quarry
harsh whale
plush wren
plush wren
elder quarry
harsh whale
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My CPU is lit getting diddled

harsh whale
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Not even the disk

plush wren
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Give it your cpu

harsh whale
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ima restart

umbral sage
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@mellow cairn i got some mates who reckon my laptop could run siege and i reckon they're dead wrong. so how do you think an i5 1335u with 16gb of ddr5 and no gpu would hold up

harsh whale
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Yea my CPU is still being touched by FiveM

plush wren
elder quarry
frigid topaz
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New mouse arrived better be better than a office pc thing

umbral sage
plush wren
frigid topaz
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Feels good icl

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Quality wise

plush wren
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placebo

frigid topaz
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Nah the clicks are better

plush wren
frigid topaz
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On old mouse it's a plastic that bends this Is a actual button

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What I'm used to

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Got this for 50cents at a second hand store

mellow cairn
umbral sage
thorn pewter
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ehhhh

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not rlly, the newer intel igpus are getting better, plus its not horrible dogshit at lower 1080pish low

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try 900p for lil more fps ig

frigid topaz
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900p with upscale to 1080p or 1440p should be fine

umbral sage
thorn pewter
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who is saying that

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and why dont you try it on the first place ??

frigid topaz
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Wish there was a way to turn off mouse rgb without software

umbral sage
umbral sage
frigid topaz
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What dpi yall play with?

umbral sage
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the google ai and other websites were saying the same thing

thorn pewter
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no, if you are not comfortable in it try with a becnhmark and see what comes up

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pluss if you want more preformance from theese APUs, try to unlock the wattge limmit which might increase preformance by a shit ton btw

frosty prism
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so happy with my new build

umbral sage
# frigid topaz What dpi yall play with?

i got no idea what that means but rn i play on ps5 cause i dont even have enough storage for games on my laptop (if i were to start gaming on my laptop id buy an external hdd)

frosty prism
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cant believe im hitting almost 200 frames in an unoptimized sm2 port

thorn pewter
frigid topaz
thorn pewter
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what you should do for example is what i did, my laptop has the Ryzen 5 7530U + Vega 7, so what i did is allowed th eupper limit for the wattge to be from 25 to 45, and it basically wasnt at 2ghz in games and tuboed to 4.2 on all cores, plus with allocation of more vram for the igpu, for me 32 gigs for the laptop so i allocated 12 gigs, and i was able to get more performance, stuff like rebar would also help

frigid topaz
umbral sage
frosty prism
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everytime you move and the game needs to load you'll freeze for a bit

umbral sage
frosty prism
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just get a 30 dollar ssd lowkey and swap it out in ur pc

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laptop'

frigid topaz
thorn pewter
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these cheap driver are not realieb to get, only if that was second hand and was a decent product

frosty prism
thorn pewter
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but even then at such low price point i doubt it will even have a dram cache to begin with, let allon reliability and longevity of the drives

left dove
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Aaaaa

outer marlin
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I made a vape into a quitting vape for a friend I removed the battery and board it feels pretty real

left dove
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ok

outer marlin
frigid topaz
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Hahaha

zinc widget
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Ngl I kinda fw this

random gyro
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guys how

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what are you fucking with

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what am I looking at

zinc widget
random gyro
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oh that's awesome

peak knot
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extensions are not recommended to use

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it would be cool as a cable replacement though if they made them custom to each PSU

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extensions add extra resistance to the cable that should be avoided

tidal geyser
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Asia horse is well known reason for funky shit

gilded harness
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☹️

azure topaz
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clear it klein

gilded harness
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yes im going to clean it

azure topaz
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do it yes

rapid quarry
gilded harness
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must empty ram's mind

oak timber
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Guys help I srsly fucked up

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I was trying to install tiny11 since my PC is dogshit and I somehow ended up with no os

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I'm too broke rn to afford a drive

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What do I do

limber nacelle
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me(ow)

oak timber
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I'm cooked aren't i

azure topaz
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7200 low tcl trials begin

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currently doing 7200 c30

limber nacelle
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MEOWWWWW (say it back)

azure topaz
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MOOOOEW

limber nacelle
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MOEOEOWWWo

oak timber
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Meow

oak timber
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I js cooked myself😭

left dove
plush wren
swift moss
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no way what a deal

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2 star rating matches

left dove
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Meowing is allowed in this household.

oak timber
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Meow ho

limber nacelle
frigid blade
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Look at that, windows 11 recognizes the 4090 partition in the VM

frigid blade
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Before it used to not, you couldnt see it in task manager

limber nacelle
frigid blade
# limber nacelle how does it equalize usage?

You set a max, here is part of it, its a bit long so I wont send it all

Set-VMGpuPartitionAdapter -VMName $vm -MinPartitionDecode 1
Set-VMGpuPartitionAdapter -VMName $vm -MaxPartitionDecode 300000000
Set-VMGpuPartitionAdapter -VMName $vm -OptimalPartitionDecode 300000000

# 30% of TotalCompute (1000000000)
Set-VMGpuPartitionAdapter -VMName $vm -MinPartitionCompute 1
Set-VMGpuPartitionAdapter -VMName $vm -MaxPartitionCompute 300000000
Set-VMGpuPartitionAdapter -VMName $vm -OptimalPartitionCompute 300000000```
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-MaxPartitionCompute for example

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The rest hyper-v manages internally similar to how it auto manages threads for the CPU

limber nacelle
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ohhhhhhhhh

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woah that's wicked

frigid blade
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Yah, its really cool

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So now all I have to do is connect to it using a thin clients, and I wont have to buy 3 $1k PCs that take up way more space

limber nacelle
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that's honestly not bad

torn bluff
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will the gpu market get better in like the next 6 months?

frigid blade
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Its perfect for my situation, you stick that mini pc to the back of the monitor and its like a party trick, peripherals look like they run into the monitor and you get high end GPU and CPU performance from a mini pc

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The latency from streaming isnt noticable at all

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Even over the internet, you can game just fine as long as you are wired and match speeds

limber nacelle
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hmmmm

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the only issue prob would be anticheats prob

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they might not like that you're in a VM

frigid blade
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Some games dont work yah, probably kernel anticheat

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Im sure there is a bypass, but I dont play many games like that

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I know R6, Warthunder, Rocket League, all work

frigid blade
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These are up to date

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The drivers get directly copied from the host to the VM

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Its a little annoying that you have to copy drivers to VM after you update drivers on host, but I can probably automate it

tidal geyser
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is it able to play a game on 2 VMs?

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at the same time

frigid blade
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Should I try? I just set up the 1st VM

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Let me get the other one up

tidal geyser
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tbh you should have done before you put any real money into it

frigid blade
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I did test it before

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Just not thoroughly

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IIRC it worked pretty well, let me do it again

azure topaz
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how’s the ram ramming

tidal geyser
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its ram

frigid blade
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5600 CL36, didnt do much after

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its just the stable one we got

azure topaz
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not bad at all very nice

limber nacelle
ashen tangle
heavy zealot
ashen tangle
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im not gonna buy it im just wondering

heavy zealot
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Before AI was added to Nvidia

tidal geyser
frigid blade
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@tidal geyser oh shit, that pictures explains so much

tidal geyser
heavy zealot
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lol

frigid blade
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Warthunder probably checks that info and thats why it keeps telling me my driver is out of date

tidal geyser
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well in the consumer space

frigid blade
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it forces me to run lowest possible quality

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but literally every other game runs fine

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What games should I test?

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I think ill do R6 on one and BF1 on the other

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Ouch, do I really take a 300Mbps network hit through the VM?

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I swear it ran full gig before

hushed parcel
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Can someone with a reddit account take a screenshot for me?

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It says I need to login to see the post. I don't have an account.

tidal geyser
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it does not matter

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go for what is cheaper or looks better to you

hushed parcel
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Well I have both cpu coolers from a friend, so I wanna see which would be better

tidal geyser
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better in what way

hushed parcel
tidal geyser
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no

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just no

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silent is only possible by a passive cooler

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and for performance you will not even see a small even a 0.1% diffrence

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sooo that means what looks the best for you

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i spoke wrong

tidal geyser
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one is a single tower and the other dual tower

hushed parcel
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No?

tidal geyser
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dual tower will be way better

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well eh not really unless you have a 14900k

hushed parcel
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Which one for the dual tower?

tidal geyser
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cmon

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DUAL tower

peak knot
clear canyon
tidal geyser
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ngl i have seen way too many intel cpus running without any cooler

peak knot
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right now though im not tearing down my bench

hushed parcel
peak knot
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ive got a 7980xe on my benches custom loop

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also my 13900kf and z790 apex encore are still in the repair shop

tidal geyser
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tbh dual as in 2 when comparing a cooler should kinda be obvious but meh

tidal geyser
peak knot
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my 13900kf just needed some caps replaced but works fine

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the z790 apex encore had a dead vrm controller

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but i found a z790 apex encore some fool dropped and crushed the corner on, bought it for $100 and sent it with my other apex to be used as a parts board

hexed tapir
empty quartz
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@peak knot overclocking le gpu :3

peak knot
empty quartz
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I just noticed, im getting a 25c delta linusSmirk

empty quartz
peak knot
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oh 25C delta isnt bad

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amd cores and coolers are notoriously not flat especially on the 6000 series

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25c is actually about as good as it gets

tidal geyser
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my 7900 XTX was more like 50c :3

peak knot
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id remount that personally

tidal geyser
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i did 3 times

empty quartz
tidal geyser
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but replaced it with PTM and now i think its more like 20c ish

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well PCM

cedar hollow
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PTM is so good on amd gpus

limber nacelle
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$100 apex is 🔥

remote mesa
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sup

cedar hollow
peak knot
cedar hollow
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maybe when prices arent friggin dumb

clear canyon
clear canyon
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ah yes, 3 ram slots

cedar hollow
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oh wait its already ptm

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im a dummie

peak knot
remote mesa
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WHAT

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what do you do with three slots

peak knot
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the 3rd slot is a dimm.2 slot

clear canyon
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bruh

empty quartz
tidal geyser
limber nacelle
clear canyon
peak knot
limber nacelle
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god that hurts to look at