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okay i’m done doing 7zip i got a decent score
09:00.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AIC-7850T/7856T [AVA-2902/4/6 / AHA-2910] (rev 03)
hell yea it works
@azure topaz it passed
incredible w
Hi all, question regarding the Ryzen 7 9800x3d, is it safe to buy it for a build right now? im seeing lots of post about them dying n stuff
do i try CL34?
probably won’t work without a lot of dram vdd/q
what if we up it to 1.4
tcl scales with voltage really well, but voltage means heat, which makes trefi unstable
not really worth it, but you can, tcl useless as hell
so how else can we get the ram faster?
change other timings lol
Install Linux
wowee that's a lot of ram
irrelevant for intel
I'll be building my first NAS next month.
I just bought three 12 terabyte hard drives. And plan on setting them up in hex OS and raid 1. So my understanding is that I'll have 24 terabytes of usable space when I get this upper running. Is that correct?
It is the next step that I'm in more need of help. Let's say that after a month of that setup that I want to add three more 12 TB hard drives. What happens then in terms of how much space is allotted to redundancy? Out of the 72 TB will 24 be set aside for redundancy? The case I have can hold 15 hard drives and my plan is to eventually fill it up. In the end how much space would be set aside for redundancy versus how much is usable. Thank you
4 dimm im helping him play with it
running faster than my shi too
can i see hwinfo
its gear 2 tho
i can help with urs
g1 is impossible on ddr5
nah i don't want to really bother with ram OC'ing on my main system ngl
ah right, amd has the "g1"?
if it's stable it just works for me
yes
the timings again
dont, i corrupted my windows
oh he knows whats up lol
ill learn more as we do this so i dont have to bother you so much about it
i need to reinstall windows soon too tbh
there's something wrong with this install that causes a literal singular program to instantly BSOD my pc
trfc to 400 and trfcpb (aka trfc2) to 350
i forgot to install the IoT version, so its a bloated install
I mean....
i really don't think my issue is hardware related so
Oh, sorry, i was just saying that because i said id do it and forgot to
i switched to professional though, cuz home doesnt support 192, only 128 max
it will boot just fine, but only shows 128 possible to use of the 192
this is super safe and should work based off my math
142.8 and some cchange worth of ns
ok will try now
i think mdie is good for 135ns latency but this is on the safer side so theres less messing with it
haha i mean 128gb is already a fuck ton of ram
Would there be a big performance difference between 5600 and 5800 at the current timings?
no
Is it linear?
why are you running 192gb btw?
3 gaming VMs, storage server, very mixed use
Went overkill so I don’t have to touch it again
wait, so do you just split the pcores across the 3 vms for gaming?
however. HOWEVER. high speed is also very hard on your memory controller and this is further compounded by dual rank and quad dimm (your scenario) so you are not going to get a high memory spede in any scenario without a long fight with your motherboard
Yes, 32 threads split across 3 VMs, 4090 partitioned evenly between them
interesting
and gaming/your use case really doesnt need anything but latency so were just gonnaa kinda minimize it
It’s not official GPU partitioning, I like the term someone used earlier, you’re bullshitting the system
No mods or anything to drivers either
yeah
oo
I see TRFC2 and TRFCPB
I don’t see trfc
trfc2=trfc
Ah
trfcpb=trfcpb
sometimes its trfc and trfc2
https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/7-zip/submissions/5819495
took 27th today, really strong result for aio and my clocks
Look good?
yes
Alright now we wait
Yah and you use a virtual display driver to run any quality and frequency you want
absolutely cooking
It’ll use sunshine to stream the desktop to a mini pc
And sunshine + moonlight client forward inputs to the vm
Very little latency locally, not much over the internet either
I was able to play gta, rocket league, etc from school
As long as it’s not WiFi
Is this 7000 cl32?
a little more lol
How do you add it up?
Aha, 8000 MT/s = 4000Mhz
mhm
That’s fast
very
What’s the performance impact on games tho, have you tried?
Bruh the memory training is still happening on my system lol
that configuration is only good for benchmarking and not actually stable
I wonder if that’s another clear cmos moment
or it just didnt like that low of trfc which is unexpected but whatever
try 500/400
I’m waiting for my monitor color to do something
trfcpb always being 100 lower than trfc2
you were what 36-44-44-48, 8/8 tRRD_L/S, 16tFAW, 80000 refi, 1.35v
I’ll let it sit for a bit, I don’t think it crashed because normally it does a post loop
Refi was like 66565 or something
oh yeah my fault my daily refi is 80000
What does refi do?
basically every couple thousand cycles (whatever you set it to) your ram has to sit for howwever long you set tRFC for in cycles
and sitting doing nothing is bad
so if you just fucking tell it "NAH WAIT" its spending more of its time being actually useful
Weird, some power coming from the pc but not all ports
Y'all need to get a room
fuck you buddy
that’s what the rooms for
trefi/rfc is like the 1 timing combo i can explain
Discord is a search engine fwiw
No you're sending TC1 refugees to TC2
Good
look yall, i devved & scanned my own film
opposite day today this is tc2 now
They should be happy someone is learning something in tc1
Instead of the bs that goes on in here all day
fr
Yah I need to clear CMOS
yea
I trusted my roommate and ended up using expired developer and losing a role of film from a national park
I'm still salty
if it was color it's very easy to tell
it just turns brown
Blue car
Our C41 stuff is fine
No he said "oh I think I opened this 3-4 months ago"
Did some research later and it was a year since it was opened
On chem that has a 3 month shelf life 😭
The C41 is so much easier to develop tbh
I mean they are worth less
alright well i’m going to the park for a little. if 500/400 doesn’t work add 50 until it does
50 to the 400 figure?
both
Oh, just keep going up?
ye
And keep them 100 apart?
mhm
Should I trust this laptop? They have more 5 star and 4 star reviews than 1 star but why are the 1 star reviews reporting "Had another login" or "malware" or "google drive connected stealing data"
Alright, thanks, have fun
This one too plz
any reviews on youtube?
looks great
turns out i needed to do some corrections to match the film stock so the color is wonky
if you’re worried about malware that’s preinstalled (unless it’s baked into the motherboard or something) simply fresh reinstall windows
Seems like the Kamrui is under the same ACEMAGIC company, they have the same model
And the youtube reviews are giving mix emotions as well, I watched the top video that says malware and they gave good reviews but said there was malware
I fucked up by shooting some ektachrome
basically its a functional laptop is what they said
Now I want more
It's so expensive
which type of malware
Yeah thats the issue, they dont state whether a fresh reinstall solves it
They said it had a virus
Im going to see if he says anything more on what it does, he said he scanned and found a virus
Damn imagine building a data center like this. 10.7 million square feet. Would cost $3B to build. This is in China.
@azure topaz by default it runs 395/341, is higher better?
anyone know a reason why this might be happening?
THey dont say
The USA does have the most data centers in the world but definitely not the largest
Okay managed to do push pull on the front and tems seem to be better
so they can mean anything from uh adware to ransomware, are you sure the brand preinstalls the malware into the laptop
anyways, warranty exists and return policy exists depending on where you live in the worst case return it
Thats what the review said, Im not entirely sure, reinstall windows and then getting the drivers for all the stuff may seem like a crazy hassle, I might as well just spend the money to get something better
just fresh install windows once you receive the laptop if you’re going to buy it
Alright
shouldn’t take more than an hour to fresh reinstall windows and installing drivers
Yee but having to do that on a new laptop is crazy, plus its for a relative so id have to get them to send me the laptop before they can get it and stuff
I hope they dont atleast lie about the performance though
I know how a ryzen 7 5700u should perform
it’s not even that great of a price to begin with, there are multiple ways to check whenever it is a 5700u
why is linux so difficult
as in like just always having random stupid issues
ive wasted an hour of my life fixing 2 small issues
It’s not difficult
which distro
its based on debian but its proxmox
Hi dihhheads
@azure topaz I won’t go further than what I had at 5600 CL36 stable, it’s annoying to reinstall windows each time
Im looking for cheap gaming laptops around that price, the laptop wont be used much for gaming but rather for school work for my cousin but yk, of course heyd use it to game. If theres any better or the same around that price range, please let me know
you should be banned
300-500 US
lenovo ideapad flex 5, for 677€, is it good?
subjective opinions very much apprechiated
That’s mean
Lmao
maybe a vivo book / oled? if they’re still at ~$350
yes
The main theme from ‘MINECRAFT’ has been added to the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry for its cultural, historical and aesthetic importance.
finally
i dont know how easy it is to actually do, but what about having a tower somewhere, and gaming with it via local network streaming?
i personally stick to my tower since i dont need to be mobile while gaming, but i always considered doing that. or at least a steam link for mobility
c418 underrated
Is he?
is it worth to buy 7800x3d? The performance differences with other much cheaper cpu isn't noticable on gaming benchmarks. I can afford the 7800x3d I just don't want to throw my money away
Yeah those are under 500, I was considering those but theyre r5 7520u, lower core count than the r7 5700u and I saw the price was the same
i hope you’re not questioning the most best iconic nostalgic musicss ever
or else i’ll nuke ur house
They'd be mobile unfortunately
7520u is meh, it’s zen 2
659 USD, damn
yhh
Hey guys, someone gifted me a gtx 970 Asus, to see if i could repair it of use it for parts, it doens´t give display or is recognized by OS or BIOS, PCB inspection looks clear, no damage, when connected fans spin at 100%, but thats all i have..... im not an expert on older gpus, but, what could be the chance that is a Vbios issue???
Yeahh, thats why I was considering those 2 laptops I have no idea about
Sucks that they have malware reviews though, one said its spyware, one said its viruses, its like a roulette
some say theres none at all
well, laptop prices constantly fluctuate so
i don have a recommendation
All good, I guess id have to test the clean reinstall
malware and spyware are virus's tbh
there is a chance it’s vbios related
but can be also one of the dozen of components on gpu are ded
was that 970 gift as for parts or working? or they didn’t mention
Sucks, I might as well just spend 450 on this laptop I seen at micro center
either it's vbios, the core or could be power related tbh @coarse solar
Just not working, but its curious that it was never opened, TIM all OEM still, super dry, but OEM xd
so he gifted you a 970 that wasn’t working
i don’t think the card is worth repairing
Thanks, im gonna do some basic troubleshoot and just put it away for someday that i need the parts
Thank u, i'll probably do that
if you think it’s worth your time try flashing the card with le flashing tool
i assume you don’t have the clippy flashing tool
if your gpu isn’t recognized and you already don’t have a rom flashing tool, yeah i think i would just sell the card for parts
Oh my god my old windows didn’t corrupt, I enabled VMD on accident and it doesn’t show up as a change when you save settings…
All I had to do was disable it and boot, but I already installed a fresh version over it
Actually, it was still corrupted, bunch of stuff is messed up, but I could’ve saved a bunch of files
No, i have some stuff but i mainly do enthusiast repairs, i study data science, so i take all the gpus i can get haha
If is not too expensive, i may buy one
@thin plover sorry for ping but I set up the mc server on my laptop and it doesn’t just work, it works well
W
look for soic8 clippy + programmer
but soic8 won’t work with some gpus
i believe they also started doin the serial number bakin into the chips since rtx 30
on some cards atleast
I have this with sunshine/moonlight, and it is absolutely perfect
I love sunshine and moonlight
It’s how we’ll split a 4090 between 3 VMs and mini PCs
and your girlfriend 😄
if I'm deploying new, I'm using apollo
What’s apollo
just a nicer/easier sunshine
Ah
bunch of quality of life changes
Sunshine is pretty simple already no?
I just wish it supported multi-monitor
You have to use portable installs if you want that
Across different ports
apollo natively uses a virtual monitor
Well, you can switch between monitors displayed, but it’s slow
The MikeTheTech VDD?
It’s probably MikeTheTech’s VDD
3D Holographic ads? Bruhhh you can’t be serious lmao
I wanna buy those alternate reality glasses
https://github.com/SudoMaker/SudoVDA which is a fork thereof
Surprised we got ads before adult content
What's a good 5090 alternative? 4090? I dislike the lack of Vram in the 5080... (I only purchased basically the NVidia series my entire life. I am dumb in this regard.)
Should I care that I'm still on 3200mhz ddr4 be real
Because I can afford to replace it soon if I really should
I have no frame of reference. I'm still stuck in 2019 and don't know what I'm missing
Uh. No. You shouldn't. Unless you start caring about your CPU not cutting the cheese anymore.
My CPU is still better than what I actually need. I have a ryzen 9 5900x and it's completely overkill
Remove the concept of inadequate ram performance from your mind until CPU becomes not good enough
Sounds like a plan. Thanks for the advice
For context. Zen 3 (your cpu and 5000 in general) didn't have very stable behavior beyond 3600mhz DDR4 xmp
I keep my components stock for longevity
it does not run that. in windows it was 600+
sounds good, 5600 c36 is good for a 192gb config w/minimal effort
Oh then idk but it erroring at old stable numbers
Maybe I changed something wrong a little
1.35 or 1.4v?
It might be 1.4 that I had
1.35 dram vdd and dram vddq
Weird, well it started erroring again at 24 minutes
36-44-44-48
possible it wasn’t stable fully, an hour isn’t a long time for memory
So ram is to cpus what power supplies are to graphics cards
Secondary.
More like. Youre at the end of a generation
you can try 1.4 or 1.45v but chances are it won’t do anything g
Yeah I realized that, but it doesn't bother me
For what your motherboard can offer. You've already got all it can offer
atp you should be doing longer stresses with TM5 or somethin
:3
since you’re doing real ram overclocking
I just want to make sure that I'm not missing out on significant gaming performance for no reason
not true tbh, you could easily do 3800 mt's on 5000 series ryzens, the golden imc'd ones could do 4000mt/s at a 1:1 with fclk
The CPU itself will handle literally anything I'd want to do
Kits arnt being sold with xmp profiles at this rating
the guy who keeps beating me is currently running home made pedals how is my guy doing this
he said he made them with free scrap metal and £9 sensors
Almost 1000 
diy final boss
no longer at 3800, but 4000 still, though tbf getting the right kit and you could oc it to either speed

he even bought a 100kg loadcell recently for £4
Holy shit you're right
😭
Wow Im out of the loop
i might have to LC my pedals
Thanks rauko
look at this film scan, i'm still figuring out the editing process but it's not bad so far
anything over 4000 mt/s is pointless on am4 at least
cart
i need to redo the tuning on my ram so i can play with it running at 3800 @stoic nova
Ddr4 at 3800? Is that high?
I wonder how these speeds got edged out. Around 2020 everyone was saying what I said about 3600mhz being the limit for xmp profiles
nope
highest xmp profile for ddr4 was 5300mt/s tbf though you'd be hard pressed to find a kit at those speeds
Isn’t that similar speed to ddr5 at 7600 in g2?
Nice, no errors so far, I changed voltage to 1.36, tRFCpb to 500, tRFC to 550
7200mt/s was the highest XOC tuning for ddr4 last time i looked
nope, that can easily pull 200w under load and not being power unlocked
Well it’s running 100% usage rn
5.4Ghz
Wow, the temp difference between cores can get quite large
3-4C difference
Welp, time to wait 55 minutes for this ram test to finish
I tried running a 70B model last night with the 4090, it’s pretty shit
Probably because it had to run in DRAM
What are the chances this can run Minecraft
Pretty high
Minecraft isn’t that hard to run
With an athlon 64, GT8400 GS, and 1gb ddr2?
Que?
Try it and let us know how it goes
Can anyone help me with a tech issue with KeyLinker?
No
don't crosspost
also, https://dontasktoask.com since you posted it twice, i'll post this twice
Why dm, just ask here
this is a pretty cool photo
What's cool about it?
🙂
Tho it was only Tested stable with the said BIOS. As soon as i Updated it i could only run at 3866
easily 400w if you unlock them
i think this is the best shot i've developed and scanned myself so far
i'm still trying to figure out what that - haze? is. i think it's pretty cool but some may not
i think it's about time i shut off my scanner for the night
What are the chances my cpu fries itself if I try overclocking an athlon 64
Thats f#cked. The Penalty of Unsyncing is insane. I mean if you did not pay extra for High Bandwith Memory its fine, but the almost non existent gains arent worth it tbh.
Also 7900X3D oof.
ddr5 is always unsynced
Hope it was at least fun to explore the OC
Eepy car
i don’t get the comment about high bandwidth memory, that’s one of the highest bandwidth am5 configurations possible lol
I meant the IF.
dual ccd, relatively high fclk
it’s faster if you can do >2133fclk reliably
ofc that chip can’t and that’s more just for a neat screenshot but
you can’t boot above 8000 on ryzen 7000 so it’s neat, you have to bclk up
Yeah but the Gains are nonexistent beyond Sythetic benchmarks and even there its not exactly good scaling
Its sad
“more just for a neat screenshot”
Yeah yeah as i said i hope it was at least fun and you didnt pay extra for a High Frequency Memorykit just for the Sake of a Screenshot
kit is rated for 7000, i overclock for fun, i ran 6000 c28 daily on the 7900x3d
Yeah thats fine i guess. Its neat. here in germany you can get 7000/7200 Kits for about the Same Price as 6000
Both Hynix Chips ofc
that’s rad
yeah same here i paid maybe 10$ more for the 7000 kit, figured it was worth it cause i know id use the slightly highrr binning quality
i need to get my old ass film shit out
same kit i run 7200c32 on intel now 👍
what the fuck
tho atm theres no Deal on a High Frequency Kit so theyre all more Expensive
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hmmmm what
got a scanner?
7200 c32 lowk fire
not really bro
granted it is intel tho
basic memory overclocking skills, i’ve ran tuned memory on everything i’ve owned even ddr3
actually does intel benefit from these lower latencies?
pro
more so than amd, amd caps out at bandwidth
and latency is latency ofc both platforms benefit from less
Almost every Z790 can do 7200 XMP. Above that its a bit hard to get XMP Working. But ive seen like 8200 or something like that

you can reliably do 8000 on basically every chip if you have a 1dpc board
i’ve seen up to like 9400 on lga 1700 iirc
But on a synthetic benchmark standpoint how much faster would 7000-8000 be than the standard 6000?
(13th/ 14th)
Yeah like the Apex Encore i know
uhhh i can run 7000 xmp vs 7200 tuned on my daily configuration
in 7zip or ycruncher
Tho the Best Board for MemOC is the Z790I Lightning wifi i heard
i think any memory record on 1700 is on the encore
7200 low effort tune
I’m sooooo on the fence about Camera Continent
Quoting MacRumors.com (@MacRumors)
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Camera continent lmaooo
ah yes... 171661756203008% utilization. my gpu alone just beat the power of a trillion gpus
How do I install a nuclear reactor in my PC
7000 xmp
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If I was multi streaming, playing a game like last of us at high settings 1080p, having about 3 chrome tabs opened, discord opened and lets say the streamlabs has about 6-10 browser sources, would the ryzwn 7 7800x3d be better than the ryzen 9 9900x?
I would think you'd struggle to tell the difference tbh
what about with discord and spotify opened?
still the same?
Yes, same
Im hoping the 4 less cores doesnt affect much
Because there would be apps opened in the background, multi streaming and igh 1080p gaming going on
Given that I can do that on my 5700x....
Oh
no not rly
these 2 wont eat the cpu that much
Im not used to high end cpus so Im not sure how much workload it can really take
Keep in mind guys, the streamlabs would include like 5 different scenes for both tiktok and twitch multistreams
browser sources would be included
still no difference?
What if I throw in the fact the build would have a RX 7800XT, no nvidia nvenc
Alright I understand
Thanks guys
Meanwhile my gaming gpu has 6gb
unless ur a big streamer with idk what big workload a 7800xt encoder shld be enuf
sure its behind nvidia and intel but its functional and gets the job done
idk and forgot where I found the data chart but the b580 matches the 4070 in that aspect
GIGABYTE B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 Motherboard, Supports AMD AM4 Ryzen 5000 Processors, ATX, DDR4, Dual M.2, SATA 6Gb/s, 2.4/5 GHz Dual-Band, 2.5 GbE LAN, PCIe 4.0 is this mb good?
Its not modern lmao
Best you get is a 3050 and it's ass for 90% usecases
@azure topaz is it ok to do odd numbers? Like CL35
Why cl35?
Not specifically, just asking if you can go odd
Yes you can but you should go as low as possible
Like if CL36 is stable, but 34 isn’t, can you try 35
You want the highest speed with the lowest latency
are these normally a scam? it's 17,000 inr which is around 200$
like are they overpriced?
usually yes but some boards or whatever won’t like it and they’ll round
are you 5'12?
so just 6'
I have the 1060 6gb
ouch
Eh?
a 1060 is pretty bad in 2025
Are you 240 months old
I like it
sadly, I am not
what games?
War Thunder, BeamNG, Snowrunner mostly
based, snowrunner
what fps?
100fps on beamng high settings
although that could be cause of my 8gb ram
minimum requirements are 16gb ram
1080
wait-
I got the whole PC for $299CAD
probably MY cheapest option to hop on am4 platform
whats the full pc specs
I7-7700K, ASUS GTX 1060 OC Edition, Corsair Vengeance DDR4, ASrock Z270 Pro 4 Mobo, 240GB SSD, 1TB HDD, HEC 600w PSU, ABS Vortex Leo2 Case, Thermaltake Gravity i2 CPU cooler
when did u get it?
its not too bad of a price
Thank you
but if it works, it works
lol
for not being able to afford a 5090
would you like me to?
no thank
"UHH YOUR PC SUCKS" and? I only want to play a certain amount of games
like
If the performance is adequate in the games you play then there's no need to upgrade
Exactly
Although I wouldn't recommend someone buy a 1060 today in most situations
yeah unless its like 20 bucks
And usually they aren't
I will not pardon it
Mods, ban them
noooo
when you have like 50 bucks that you want to spend, you can buy a hotswappable mechanical keyboard and buy custom switches and some cheap mods and have a bad ass keyboard, its super easy

Ye
I have some good keyboard
I just like my 5.99 one for War Thunder
you can get some pretty nice keyboards for cheap now days
cable management? i think just say u threw all the cables around lol
membrane is never "good" lmao
although that was after I moved my desk
gtg now
ight
I have one for my ITX and i’d say its alr
for gaming tho hall effect is absolute domination
trust me, the best membranes are not even as good as a crappy mechanical
If I have 2 ethernet ports on my pc, can I connect both up to my router? And give priority applications their own line compared to background applications?
I doubt it would help performance much but I'm just curious if it would be beneficial in any practical scenario? 😆
no
Lame
Is it POSSIBLE to do: maybe. Could you do it? no.
hey so I own a deepcool aio and when gaming my cpu is at 35 - 45 degrees idle and 65 - 75 while gaming, is that ok? i5 14600kf cpu
yes
How dare you
the closest you can get is by bridging the ports
i wouldn't say high fps but around 70fps is what id say
forgot to put the storage back on ther elmao
70fps no upscaling
for my build? This one? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gx4Ph7
Part List - AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, Radeon RX 9070 XT, Antec FLUX PRO ATX Full Tower
Part List - AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, GeForce RTX 4080, Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower
what on earth is that
a pc with a much better gpu for just 200 more
isn’t it like the same
is it?
the 9070 xt competes with the 5070 ti, the base 4080 is better then that??
the 4080 is like an fps or two faster
ok well, nvm lol
i’d get 9900X
The 7900xtx is stronger then the 9070 xt?
yes
i love my 7800x3d so im biased on it, I dont like the 9900x bc of multi ccd
for gaming
well the guy is playing super demanding games while streaming to TWO sources, has a soundboard and discord and everything open
7800X3D can’t handle allat
yeah lmao
What you think your cpu usage would be at? estimated
streaming is not demanding at all for a 7800x3D lmao
Like a 70?
I daily a 7800x3d and I do several intensive things at the same time
I see
7600x can do without issues to multiple sources and play demanding titles all at the same time
No its multi streaming and other apps opened and stuff
“super demanding games” typically mean the GPU
cyberpunk and RDR2 arent particularly forgiving on the CPU either
Im just making sure everything can run smooth without it breaking down, I have a budget for both and dont want to make the wrong choice
unless you play games and decode using gpu, then yes it might be an issue. otherwise if you base your stream on your cpu instead which is what most people do, there is no way you can stress 7800x3D. not even close
but those games with other thing open should have at least 30-40% usage left on the table
have you ever tried running a game like RDR2 while streaming TWICE
nope but shldnt streaming be more on the GPU?
actually it can handle it just fine lol
But wait what res is he playing at
Even with many browser sources?
thats more on ram tbh
#1359728192260411556 1080p, most would be 1440p if it can run it with all that opened
I mean you can definitely try but if the threads are hopping around, even if it's not at 100% CPU usage it's gonna affect your game
youre not streaming in 4k is one thing, game you play still primarily source from 3D cache while having extra core resources available for use. streaming are mostly taxing your gpu except if you specifically move encoding to your cpu.
if he’s doing 1080p I think he can get a R9 X3D and settle for smth like a B580
no way a 7800x3D struggle lmao
okay so suddenly my mid-high range 1440p pc became 2.5k...how did that happen 😭 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qwQ4wY
Part List - AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, Radeon RX 9070 XT, Antec FLUX PRO ATX Full Tower
i guess 4tb of storage is a little uneccesary
if indeed streaming is CPU taxxing
Its 2 bundles, one with the r7 7800x3d and one with the r9 9900x, getting it at a low price at microcenter and wanted to choose between the two
Idk I tried my brothers 9700X PC i wasnt really impressed with the multicore stuff, warzone + streaming on discord caused lag
you can stream multiple platform with one same software
you dont really stream "twice"
Yes, that's what's going on #1359728192260411556
Im just making sure the 7800x3d can do it
hoping it can because the motherboard it comes with is white lol, matches the build
x3D is primarily designed to run games mainly from its 3D caching and some core intervention
which means, you can stream just fine
that is if you even source your encoding to your cpu
Alright, woud you recommend streaming on the cpu or the gpu
usually, i let cuda encoding do it instead
ye thats wut I was gonna ask
Not sure what that is
I think it he’s doing 7800x3d and 7800XT, he should do the streaming on the CPU
Yes
if youre on amd, you can let your cpu handle your streaming just fine
no issues at all
about the opening plenty of background apps, that is more ram side rather than the cpu itself
youre not really cinebenching and streaming at the same time yes?
No
All the apps and stuff ive stated in #1359728192260411556 is an idea of the average stream
music, discord, game and thats rlly it
chrome maybe to search sum
my friend stream with a freaking ryzen 5 7640hs while running the same setup as you. youre more than fine
Alright, thanks
only difference is he runs 4060 mobile and also at 1080p
Okay, trying to decide here..which one of these is better for high end 1440p gaming? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZrjzGJ https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qwQ4wY
Part List - AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, GeForce RTX 5070 Ti, Fractal Design Pop XL Air ATX Full Tower
Part List - AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, Radeon RX 9070 XT, Antec FLUX PRO ATX Full Tower
no problem, do enjoy your setup
Using the McDonald’s zombie hamburglar to prevent gpu sag
oh about this,
7800x3D and 7800xt
:3
late but its better than never lmao
tbh I’d let the cpu handle the stream unless ur up to a 4070 ti super
honestly its more than fine to go gpu encoding if you have the extra vram
Yea thats my worry abt anything below the TiS
For AMD if its a 7900XT I think I’d let it handle the stream
otherwise,a 7800x3D is very powerful for a stream pc. heck shit wont even hit peak usage
Its like a 120w max cpu but during gaming its like 50w
also, letting your cpu handle stream means your gpu can just do game at 1440p
actually if he’s doing 1080p and 7800XT he can go with either
its a really powerful chip in itself, i dont know why people think an x3D cant handle streaming and multiple apps lmao
1440p and 4K I’d mainly let CPU handle it
exactly why my ass which is not knowledgeable abt streaming got confused here
what MoCa connector is good. im considering upgrading to it from wifi
Is there a company/startup that makes all in one (pc) TVs?
an AIO that can take video input as well?
Like a normal OLED TV but with both a full gaming components integrated and android TV
am afraid thats not a thing
That sounds like a good idea tho, no?
i mean it could work, just that air flow and compatibility issues would arise
Uuuhhh so basically a tv with console built in then.
Laptops are already paper thin but loud, im sure with bigger internal fans that spin at lower RPM should work.
Wouldn't fit the form factor most tv manufacturers aim for these days.
laptops use mobile chips, which work a bit diffrent than standred pc chips, plus its just eaiser to hook up a pc thru hdmi to a tv and do it that way
Yea but OLEDs are thin asf so just a little thickness wouldnt hurt considering your getting a full on pc
Why not just use mobile chips but unlock them?
Especially for gaming components, 'cause thin n' lights do not have the proper hardware for gaming. That kind of priority is put into the designs of gaming-specific laptops and the handheld hybrids.
All because they're the only ones designed with the cooling packaging in mind.
And those are not particularly thin either in a way tv manufacturers would prefer.
you could do that, just that the manufactruring cost would be way too high to even make money let alone people in the masses buying them
Sounds like an actually good project tho
If production was possible
You're talking about doubling the cost of a TV just to have a computer in it
No one would buy this
The closest you could get out of a tv with a SoC capable of actually gaming at an acceptable performance might as well be something with a modern Tegra SoC or the last Exynos chips from Samsung to actually use an RDNA igpu in them.
Which more than likely won't happen.
it may sound good, but if hat would ever happen it wont be ever upgradable and it would just be a loss to the company making them
No
atp just use smthn like nvida shield atp
@harsh whale why would you even want that?
Idek it just popped up in my mind, and sounds good
Or a Fire TV, Apple TV, Roku, or even just any microconsole pretty much.
You could literally do that with a cheap android box, with steam link installed
Yea but you would need external hardware and good internet for that.
I'd say it's more of a yesn't as an idea for current stuff, to be honest.
And I'm saying this as a console hardware and history enthusiast.
Then just plug your pc into a tv
Not so convenient. Unless you have a designated space for it.
And a tv is more convenient?
Just plug in the cord and you got both a normal tv and a gaming system.
I personally wouldn't find it that appealing to have to buy a whole new tv with console hardware stuffed inside of it, just to try and tackle the challenge of figuring out where I'll even put it and then what I'll do with my dad's tv afterwards.
Ain't no way I'm putting something that big in my room, that's for sure, and most certainly ain't mounting it to any of the walls in here either.
cant you just by a mini pc that has a decent igpu and then mount it on the back of the tv and do it that way ?
But where is the fun in that?
You totally could.
Its literally the same idea
Especially if you can do it with a regular monitor.
just diy mod on ur tv and then fit the cooling and io for it in youere tv and then thats what you basicly want
there are some pretty solid options that are capable of many things even at low settings tbh
If anything though, you want a real challenge, just... Build your own game console instead. It's actually not that fun to screw around with tvs with how they're set up, unless you can afford to do literally everything custom without a hassle.
Yea but tackling the idea and dealing with the challenges of putting a full gaming system integrated would be good.
thats what i said....
At best, with a modern oled, you could fit laptop components while still having adequate cooling
pop smthn liek this and you would be good for any tv basicly https://store.minisforum.com/products/minisforum-um773-lite?srsltid=AfmBOop2QRJlG92ZGjHW0X70xSHroW1eP_CQdhd-aM-qDv0UXsgA4TsV
You can make your own rendition of the meeting table from TRON using something like that and that would make more sense for a fun project, honestly.
i shoudl try that one day lol
Personally, i’d rather build a pc inside an xbox one chassis
So just a big ass screen that lays flat in the shape of a table linked up to a ITX build?
30 usd max i would pay for a og phat xbox one tbh
I'd rather go through the trouble of architecting an actual game console.
Not worth it to me as there are waaay too many of those.
true
In many forms and specifications much too similar.
My idea is still good on paper, just not functionally. But tbh sounds like a good project
Also running exclusively on ARM too.
just make a quad pi cluster and call it a day smh
Those also exist a-plenty and are not suitable for that kind of application in that configuration.
AND they don't fit in a small enough package either, since a stack of those ain't supposed to anyway.
or build a pi super computer 🙂
Which I still don't want to do anyway. Lmao.
if i gave you a ras pi right now, what would you do with it?
Return to sender and go out and get myself something with RISC-V in it or maybe an FPGA if I could.
I got my resin printer yesterday
It’s using a raspi
Why
Gonna mess with it some day

unless i need any sort of micro projects ras pi now js dont make sence to me at all

i would rather use a freedom board instead and make cool shi😎

WTF is FiveM on

quality platform
146%

My laptop can run fivem wtf is happening bro 😭

there are so many cheaters on fivem people are checking peoples pcs for cheats

My CPU is lit getting diddled
Its using nothing but the CPU bro
Not even the disk
Give it your cpu
ima restart
@mellow cairn i got some mates who reckon my laptop could run siege and i reckon they're dead wrong. so how do you think an i5 1335u with 16gb of ddr5 and no gpu would hold up
Yea my CPU is still being touched by FiveM
og gif
Yeee
New mouse arrived better be better than a office pc thing
if its anything like the g305 itll be mint as
placebo
Nah the clicks are better

On old mouse it's a plastic that bends this Is a actual button
What I'm used to
Got this for 50cents at a second hand store
I have no idea. I imagine you could get useful information out of google
well enough
everything on google reckons id be lucky to get something half decent at 720p cause i dont have a gpu
ehhhh
not rlly, the newer intel igpus are getting better, plus its not horrible dogshit at lower 1080pish low
try 900p for lil more fps ig
you still have a GPU
900p with upscale to 1080p or 1440p should be fine
well intergrated in my cpu which everything is saying wont be enough
Wish there was a way to turn off mouse rgb without software
ppl on reddit and shit
wdym like just buy siege and play it
What dpi yall play with?
the google ai and other websites were saying the same thing
no, if you are not comfortable in it try with a becnhmark and see what comes up
pluss if you want more preformance from theese APUs, try to unlock the wattge limmit which might increase preformance by a shit ton btw
so happy with my new build
i got no idea what that means but rn i play on ps5 cause i dont even have enough storage for games on my laptop (if i were to start gaming on my laptop id buy an external hdd)
cant believe im hitting almost 200 frames in an unoptimized sm2 port
oh and the load times
450
dpi is a mouse thing
My office pc mouse was 300 and I put it to 900 rn and no big difference
gaming on an hdd is a no no
what you should do for example is what i did, my laptop has the Ryzen 5 7530U + Vega 7, so what i did is allowed th eupper limit for the wattge to be from 25 to 45, and it basically wasnt at 2ghz in games and tuboed to 4.2 on all cores, plus with allocation of more vram for the igpu, for me 32 gigs for the laptop so i allocated 12 gigs, and i was able to get more performance, stuff like rebar would also help
Nah it's fine for single player games
ohhhhhhhhh. i already knew that but i wasnt sure if thats what you actually meant mb
unless you want to wait 10 seconds everytime you enter a new region sure
everytime you move and the game needs to load you'll freeze for a bit
siege is far from a single player lol
I've been using hdd for those games for years and loading times are fine unless its gta5 or csgo
no
these cheap driver are not realieb to get, only if that was second hand and was a decent product
my ssd is literally 35 usd and it works just fine
but even then at such low price point i doubt it will even have a dram cache to begin with, let allon reliability and longevity of the drives
Aaaaa
I made a vape into a quitting vape for a friend I removed the battery and board it feels pretty real
ok
Next time put in fart spray
I will take that into heavy consideration
Hahaha
Ngl I kinda fw this
It’s a 24 pin extension that makes the cable way more compact.
oh that's awesome
extensions are not recommended to use
it would be cool as a cable replacement though if they made them custom to each PSU
extensions add extra resistance to the cable that should be avoided
Asia horse is well known reason for funky shit
☹️
clear it klein
yes im going to clean it
do it yes
Ram needs a clear mind by not worrying about rent to preform optimally. It has feelings too
must empty ram's mind
Guys help I srsly fucked up
I was trying to install tiny11 since my PC is dogshit and I somehow ended up with no os
I'm too broke rn to afford a drive
What do I do
well done nice throw
MEOWWWWW (say it back)
MOOOOEW
MOEOEOWWWo
Meow
I've resorted to using a usb since I fucked up so hard
I js cooked myself😭
maow,,
moo
Meowing is allowed in this household.
Meow ho
MEEEEEOOWOOWOWOWOWWWWW
Look at that, windows 11 recognizes the 4090 partition in the VM
Before it used to not, you couldnt see it in task manager
how does it equalize usage?
You set a max, here is part of it, its a bit long so I wont send it all
Set-VMGpuPartitionAdapter -VMName $vm -MinPartitionDecode 1
Set-VMGpuPartitionAdapter -VMName $vm -MaxPartitionDecode 300000000
Set-VMGpuPartitionAdapter -VMName $vm -OptimalPartitionDecode 300000000
# 30% of TotalCompute (1000000000)
Set-VMGpuPartitionAdapter -VMName $vm -MinPartitionCompute 1
Set-VMGpuPartitionAdapter -VMName $vm -MaxPartitionCompute 300000000
Set-VMGpuPartitionAdapter -VMName $vm -OptimalPartitionCompute 300000000```
-MaxPartitionCompute for example
The rest hyper-v manages internally similar to how it auto manages threads for the CPU
Yah, its really cool
So now all I have to do is connect to it using a thin clients, and I wont have to buy 3 $1k PCs that take up way more space
i guess you get something between a 4060ti and 4070 of compute per PC
that's honestly not bad
will the gpu market get better in like the next 6 months?
Its perfect for my situation, you stick that mini pc to the back of the monitor and its like a party trick, peripherals look like they run into the monitor and you get high end GPU and CPU performance from a mini pc
The latency from streaming isnt noticable at all
Even over the internet, you can game just fine as long as you are wired and match speeds
hmmmm
the only issue prob would be anticheats prob
they might not like that you're in a VM
Some games dont work yah, probably kernel anticheat
Im sure there is a bypass, but I dont play many games like that
I know R6, Warthunder, Rocket League, all work
It just says that
These are up to date
The drivers get directly copied from the host to the VM
Its a little annoying that you have to copy drivers to VM after you update drivers on host, but I can probably automate it
yes
tbh you should have done before you put any real money into it
I did test it before
Just not thoroughly
IIRC it worked pretty well, let me do it again
how’s the ram ramming
its ram
not bad at all very nice
fast af for 2dpc DR ddr5
https://store.chuwi.com/products/corebook-x-i5-12450h?variant=50573094060263 chat is this worth?
Peak driver date
im not gonna buy it im just wondering
Before AI was added to Nvidia
@tidal geyser oh shit, that pictures explains so much
eh its everything before rtx
lol
Warthunder probably checks that info and thats why it keeps telling me my driver is out of date
well in the consumer space
it forces me to run lowest possible quality
but literally every other game runs fine
What games should I test?
I think ill do R6 on one and BF1 on the other
Ouch, do I really take a 300Mbps network hit through the VM?
I swear it ran full gig before
Can someone with a reddit account take a screenshot for me?
It says I need to login to see the post. I don't have an account.
Well I have both cpu coolers from a friend, so I wanna see which would be better
better in what way
At cooling and if it's silent or not
no
just no
silent is only possible by a passive cooler
and for performance you will not even see a small even a 0.1% diffrence
sooo that means what looks the best for you
i spoke wrong
i thought you were comparing the same kinda cooler
one is a single tower and the other dual tower
No?
Which one for the dual tower?
ill cool my 13900kf with a reference athlon 64 x2 cooler
mine as well just cool with the ihs
ngl i have seen way too many intel cpus running without any cooler
right now though im not tearing down my bench
Sorry I forgot computer lingo, it's been years
ive got a 7980xe on my benches custom loop
also my 13900kf and z790 apex encore are still in the repair shop
tbh dual as in 2 when comparing a cooler should kinda be obvious but meh
rip them
i have a 7940x in my server
my 13900kf just needed some caps replaced but works fine
the z790 apex encore had a dead vrm controller
but i found a z790 apex encore some fool dropped and crushed the corner on, bought it for $100 and sent it with my other apex to be used as a parts board
isnt the mobo more expensive then the cpu?
@peak knot overclocking le gpu :3
what card
I just noticed, im getting a 25c delta 
Rx 6800
i had a 50c one
oh 25C delta isnt bad
amd cores and coolers are notoriously not flat especially on the 6000 series
25c is actually about as good as it gets
my 7900 XTX was more like 50c :3
id remount that personally
i did 3 times
Lets not talk about my delta’s when running furmark
PTM is so good on amd gpus
how much is the repair?
$100 apex is 🔥
sup
i must be the first to ptm a sakura card
spot the reason why it was $100
maybe when prices arent friggin dumb
wth
ah yes, 3 ram slots
no its a 2 dimm board
the 3rd slot is a dimm.2 slot
bruh
“I know whats wrong with it; aint got no gas in it” 🗣️
the socket
crunchy
no
check bottom left
god that hurts to look at


