tech-chat-1

[clear pebble]

So my friend wants a PC, I would build one, yk typical r5 3600 Rx 6600 build as a budget build and 32gb ram bc he plays VR chat with me and that game eats ram like nothing I'm using 3600mhz ram and it's always at 27gb being used. Problem Is he lives far away so I can't build one for him or with him, so I was wondering if this a good deal? https://a.co/d/24G13Jk PC part picker has it around the same price too, can't figure what motherboard but yeah.

Has a Ryzen 7 2700 which is eh, slightly worse than my Ryzen 5 3600 but not by much.

Rx 580 has 8gb of ram so it should be fine, I think at least, my first gpu had 6gb and it played vrc also. So idk i sent him it and he seems to like it. Looks good for an Amazon prebuilt

[frail topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-gif-21326315

[elder quarry]

Candi

[frail topaz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/180793115223916544/1253311533987921931/ezgif.com-video-to-gif_2.gif

[gleaming rose]

startech is the shit honestly

great products

[frail topaz]

startech has some nice ass shit

stupidly cheap most of the time too

[elder quarry]

lol

[gleaming rose]

they make damn near everything

got a pci to pcie adapter from them and i have a feeling it's going to do exactly that

[empty quartz]

:3

[frigid blade]

6600 still gets lag

[empty quartz]

Wdym by lag

[elder quarry]

6600 what

[frail topaz]

only 9070xt i can get is 820$ is that WORTH it.

[elder quarry]

3:

[frigid blade]

MT/s

[frail topaz]

:3

[frigid blade]

It randomly freezes mid game for a small amount of time

At least it’s not crashing like earlier

[elder quarry]

Switch to Linux

[empty quartz]

You sure its your ram?

[frail topaz]

speaking of linux im gonna switch to debian 12 on my laptop

gonna dualboot w11/d12

[frigid blade]

Yes, I just switched it from 32 to 96gb and it started doing that, lowering from 6800 to 6600 fixed the games crashing

[elder quarry]

:O

[frail topaz]

i do NOT use arch btw

[hexed tapir]

Nvidia GPU?

[elder quarry]

Why Debian? (I mean Debian is nice but arch)

[empty quartz]

2x48?

[frigid blade]

Yes, but guys it’s the ram, it didn’t happen before I switched lol

[frigid blade]

Ya

[frail topaz]

because i fucking despise pacman

[empty quartz]

What cpu and mobo?

[elder quarry]

Then use yay or paru

[frail topaz]

even worse

[frigid blade]

13900kf, prime z790-c?

[frail topaz]

apt >>>>>>>>>>>

[frigid blade]

Asrock

[distant frigate]

This is kinda cool

[elder quarry]

Set a alias

[empty quartz]

Try 6200mt/s

[glad fog]

if youre in europe, yes, the us i dont think so.

[frail topaz]

no thats not it its just

[frail topaz]

im in the balkans to be precise

[frigid blade]

I’ve been testing by 200 increments, just wondering why it doesn’t work well when specs said it should

[frail topaz]

Albania

[glad fog]

though i have a feeling soon 820 usd for a 9070 xt may be the standard in the US too lmao

[elder quarry]

I can give tiu a config

[frail topaz]

i mean the tariffs set by trump are gonna fuck all the prices in the ass

[nimble burrow]

if you could pick between these 2 keyboards which I've would you pick (both have mac modes)

[glad fog]

well he's upping china tariffs to 104% so yeah

[frail topaz]

WHAT

[distant frigate]

Cheaper tap water could be nice. Tap water here costs like $10 per 1000 gallons

[frail topaz]

WASNT IT 20%, THEN 54%?

NOW 104%?!!

[empty quartz]

Btw, why did you get 96gb of ram?

[elder quarry]

Qwertyuiop

[glad fog]

i saw several articles today saying that tomorrow he's raising them to 104

[frigid blade]

192, second kit hasn’t come yet, building a homelab

[frail topaz]

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/08/business/trump-china-tariff/index.html

[empty quartz]

You’re going to run into issues

[frail topaz]

WHAAAAT

[glad fog]

apparently china may ban hollywood movies

and a lot more than that

[frigid blade]

I know, I’ll have to run sub 6000 with the RAM

[glad fog]

not great for us prices lol

dont know how much it'll affect gpus though

[frigid blade]

It’s an AMD build also, which makes it even worse

[plain cypress]

Everything is going to be fucked

[empty quartz]

@night urchin ❌

[frigid blade]

Saw a guy running on YouTube 192 at 6000 on an AM5 board in gear 1 and it was stable

I wanna try that

[empty quartz]

He got lucky

[frigid blade]

He probably did, but I’m fine with 5800, 5600, etc.

[night urchin]

AMD 🔛 🔝

[empty quartz]

@night urchin use your fucking words

[frigid blade]

I’m sure I can get it stable at 5600

[frail topaz]

nuvidia stock

[frail topaz]

taiwan still has a 30% tariff no?

[teal sphinx]

Oh wow your profile picture

[frigid blade]

I might just have to go with an Intel build though, their new ultra CPUs have 24 lanes instead of the 20 they had before?

[fallen sky]

Tell me a lil gadget or something I can use long term for $50. I’m thinking of getting some arctic 14s

although I already have good cooling

More won’t hurt

[empty quartz]

Amd imc on its way to shit the bed at literally anything higher than 6000mt/s

[frigid blade]

What about it

[teal sphinx]

Did to get dumped

[frigid blade]

You talking about my bio?

I’m talking about the recent market dump, lol

[teal sphinx]

[distant frigate]

Actually nvm. Water itself is free I believe although the infrastructure to deliver it to people and make it potable is not

[frigid blade]

https://tenor.com/view/avax-dump-emin-sirer-avalanche-price-gif-18896520

[magic kraken]

Stonks only go down.

[empty quartz]

What about dumping the segue to our sponsor into this chat; glasswire

[frigid blade]

Why does Intel have better memory controllers? I thought AMD was catching up

[teal sphinx]

Oh today is tariff day for our country

[frail topaz]

next gen AMD is gonna fix memory controllers probably

[magic kraken]

Tomorrow is big tariff day

[glad fog]

gas ga s gas im going to step on the gas

[teal sphinx]

Wait not today?

[magic kraken]

Nope, its why the market isn't THAT red yesterday/today

[empty quartz]

people have been saying that for sooo many generations lmfao

[magic kraken]

Big dump on friday, bigger dump tomorrow probably.

[hexed tapir]

Fun fact the US state with the lowest gdp is Vermont at 35 billion USD , while the country of Albania was around 25 billion USD in 2024

[elder quarry]

Glob

[frail topaz]

they have yeah, but nonetheless amd is still on top in many categories

[mighty lake]

holy shit bro

[frail topaz]

lol im not surprised

[empty quartz]

i still refuse to go amd

[frail topaz]

still we're doing... fairly fine for the most part

[hexed tapir]

I was Vermont very smoll

[mighty lake]

104% tarrifs on china is gonna make cheap keyboards not a thing 😭

[elder quarry]

And Madagascar with their vanilla with like 96%

[frigid blade]

Chicago area prices haven’t moved much

[empty quartz]

madatgascar

[hexed tapir]

650k People

[distant frigate]

Apple is planning on moving their smartphone production to India because of the China tariffs which doesn’t surprise me

[frail topaz]

noone is forcing you, just amd has the upper hand intel fucked up many times with late updates microcode issues burning chips big temperature problems, the 9950x3d is probably the best consumer grade cpu out there

[frigid blade]

You can’t get that kind of quality from India

[glad fog]

maybe he doesnt do it though, after all it has happened before that he just calls it off for a month, we'll see tomorrow.

[frail topaz]

most of china production is gonna get moved to either taiwan or some other place

[mighty lake]

not very suprised either I wouldn't wanna pay 104% tariffs lmao

[magic kraken]

That said, sourced everything but a gpu/ram/storage today.... not holding out much hope for that first one

[hexed tapir]

They have been slowly moving to India over the years

[mighty lake]

hopefully not dude I can NOT afford how expensive shit gonna be after

[empty quartz]

im not selling my z790 aorus pro x just to switch to an inherently worse platform for what i do

[glad fog]

yeah amazon's going to look weird

[thorn pewter]

Gpmi is the future trusy

[frail topaz]

for what you do sure, and if you already have the parts of course, but if youre looking to upgrade we're gonna see what next gen is gonna offer because so far its all been quite good from AMD

5k 7k and 9k have been quite good

[hexed tapir]

The furniture store in work at imports most things from China and Vietnam and they both have super high tariffs now

[teal sphinx]

Weren’t they already doing that?

[magic kraken]

yea

[teal sphinx]

Like before tariff

[empty quartz]

still not going amd

[magic kraken]

yea

[hexed tapir]

But why

[mighty lake]

cheaper per core why not?

[frail topaz]

sure, but theres no reason anymore

[empty quartz]

nope

[mighty lake]

wdym nope 😭

[teal sphinx]

Amd is more expensive in my country

[magic kraken]

Intel died with 13th gen imo, and thats comming from someone who bought their HEDT platforms for years.

[frail topaz]

^

[elder quarry]

Come back intel

[mighty lake]

where im at a r5 3600 goes for about $70 and a i5-10400f is $110. Similar performance huge difference price wise

[frail topaz]

lets hope that 200 series of the core and ultra series is gonna be a bit better but AMD is on top

[plain cypress]

Nova lake is gonna be sick

[empty quartz]

@mighty lake

[elder quarry]

Sad

[magic kraken]

Do I just say eff it and grab a pair of 990 Pro 4tbs? Already blew enough money today, whats another 600

[frail topaz]

because honestly, i love intel, ive grown up with intel and all of their generations and gone thru them, but they fucked up massivly with 13th gen and ignoring all the microcode issues

[frail topaz]

fuck it mate

[plain cypress]

About $600, give or take

[empty quartz]

they literally fixed the microcode issues

[frail topaz]

too late

they should have fixed them when people were reporting them, not MONTHS later

[magic kraken]

fixing them two generations later isn't really exactly.... useful

[plain cypress]

I'm going to take a wild guess they didn't develop the fix in 5 minutes and say "let's withhold this from the public for 6 months"

[mighty lake]

where im at it's different but shit I wouldn't go amd at that point

[frail topaz]

at MOST a month or two after initial reports were being done, the update should have been done, something should have been warned to the user to upadte to bios

[empty quartz]

unless you're not gaming, go amd

[teal sphinx]

I thought 3600 is faster lol

[frail topaz]

even if ur not gaming, ryzen 9 is super nice

ryzen 7 too, super nice

[empty quartz]

1 cost 2x

[magic kraken]

Not that much more than I paid for a damn psu

[plain cypress]

My PSU was $0

[frail topaz]

if u want a sweet spot xx50x3d

[empty quartz]

@frail topaz my 13500 kicks the 7700x's ass in multithreaded performance for less money

[magic kraken]

My last few were $0 reuses, but I'm not trusting a decade old 850w anymore.

[elder quarry]

x950x3d

[plain cypress]

I sold my soul to a corporation

[magic kraken]

shrug Storage, ram, cry about not getting a 5090 then I can finally go to bed.

[frail topaz]

these might be wrong, but theyre pretty close

[frail topaz]

(129USD)

[empty quartz]

i was thinking of the 7700 💀

[magic kraken]

Time to check out the market for 64gb ddr5-6000 cl30

[frail topaz]

how much money do you have to spend

[rigid fjord]

nah, grab some nm790's

[empty quartz]

https://www.techspot.com/review/2612-intel-core-i5-13500/

[elder quarry]

What did he do to deserve neon there

[magic kraken]

Realistically, plenty. Comming from 2020 flagship hardware, getting the current round of stuff, 5090, x3d, ect.

[empty quartz]

?

[frail topaz]

yeah it beats it by about 2k points, but are you really gonna go with an outdated intel platform if youre gonna go with a new build?

[magic kraken]

Lexars? interesting

[elder quarry]

e.

[frail topaz]

7700x is around the same price as the 13500, and theyre basically head to head

[elder quarry]

The Lego playground thing

[empty quartz]

dude, im not trying to convince other people.

im not switching to amd

[hexed tapir]

7700 with pbo is more or less a 7700x

[distant frigate]

Bruh lmao. Why tf would you use coal to power AI data centers

[candid bolt]

can anyone help me find some good headfones?

[magic kraken]

Not looking to waste money for no reason, but its 100% not a value build.

[frail topaz]

noone is forcing you to, its just better for most people

[empty quartz]

why would i switch when i already have a high end motherboard

[frail topaz]

i already told you, you shouldnt. Z790 is plenty good and still stands very proudly

[elder quarry]

#audio-tech

[empty quartz]

i know

[frail topaz]

we're gonna see what 2nd gen LGA1851 has to offer

[distant frigate]

Coal is dirty and not efficient lmao. Natural gas is better. Nuclear is even better.

[plain cypress]

Lol

[hexed tapir]

Maybe they can match 14th Gen this time

[plain cypress]

Arrow lake refresh is gonna change the world

[frail topaz]

lets hope

[magic kraken]

Currently ordered and shipped parts list looks something like
9800x3D
x870e Taichi
Seasonic TX-1300
Fractal Torrent

[frail topaz]

isnt it gonna be called nova lake?

[frail topaz]

HOW MUCH MONEY DO YTOU HAVE

[hexed tapir]

Seasonic is normally over priced how much is it

[plain cypress]

Current rumors indicate Nova lake (late 2026) will move to a new socket

[frail topaz]

overpriced but fucking good as shit

[frail topaz]

LOOOOOL

[glad fog]

https://tenor.com/view/saruman-burn-it-down-forest-fangorn-lotr-gif-19776484

[frail topaz]

LGA1200 all over again

[plain cypress]

This has not been confirmed by Intel yet

[magic kraken]

$37000 in spending cash, arguably entirely irrevelant to the conversation given we both know 64gb worth of memory is sub-thousand to put it bloody mildly.

[hexed tapir]

https://imgur.com/NCbpauj

[frail topaz]

Shhh we dont talk about focus

[plain cypress]

This has been Intel's strategy for a decade plus

[frail topaz]

LGA1200 was so fucking bad

[elder quarry]

That hurts to watch

[distant frigate]

Heck I think we should invest more into nuclear fusion research and development.

[magic kraken]

Not quite as explodey as the gigabyte from a few years back

[elder quarry]

It’s @tidal geyser s favourite socket

[frail topaz]

Mhm.......

[frail topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[plain cypress]

LGA 1700: alder lake, raptor lake, raptor lake refresh
LGA 1851: meteor lake (cancelled lmao), arrow lake, arrow lake refresh (unconfirmed)
LGA 1851-Next: Nova Lake, ???

Raptor lake refresh happened because meteor lake for desktop was canned

[frail topaz]

LGA1200: Comet lake, Rocket lake

god its so bad

[plain cypress]

Which is the standard for intel

[frail topaz]

i hate it so much lga1200 can die

fuck lga1200

[magic kraken]

Yea, not the best value for sure, tends to last and last if nothing else not unlike noctua.

[frail topaz]

1700 got 500 more pins for good reason

LGA1718 (AM5)better than all of them so far

LGA 3647

[magic kraken]

Wonder if we'll ever get another HEDT platform out of intel

[plain cypress]

No

[frail topaz]

No

[plain cypress]

You will see ever increasing core counts on consumer socket

[frail topaz]

Maybe super super super high end nova lake chips but no other socket no way

[plain cypress]

And Xeon for workstation platform

[frail topaz]

LGA2066 my baby where are you

[plain cypress]

Yeah I guess define HEDT first

[hexed tapir]

Intel is losing why spend money on hedt

[plain cypress]

If you want a bigger prosumer socket, no

[magic kraken]

48+ lanes and more than two memory channels

[lavish warren]

I found a pc in my house - think centre m93p tiny, should I upgrade it to a xeon E3 1275l and put a gpu in it?

[candid bolt]

deepcool mysqitue good aio?

[frail topaz]

if nova lake fixes intel and we actually see improvements and amd falls down yet again - alltho highly unlikely ill think about switching to intel

[plain cypress]

If you want a big cpu
13/14900k, 5950/7950/9950x, 285k

[frail topaz]

alltho im currently rocking

[plain cypress]

The consumer sockets began eating into HEDT core counts which meant HEDT started pushing into workstation core counts...

Traditional HEDT is dead

[frail topaz]

^

[plain cypress]

Current rumor is a 52 core Nova lake

We will see if it happens

[magic kraken]

so many bloody ecores

[frail topaz]

ehhh i dont like the concept of e cores

[odd marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-begging-pretty-please-beg-on-your-knees-pray-for-mercy-gif-10678931350545522063

[frail topaz]

alltho they are good - just give more ACTUAL cores

[plain cypress]

They work for highly parallelized tasks

[odd marsh]

I’ve got 8 P cores and then a full 12700k in my system, they’re great

[magic kraken]

Heterogeneous compute would be so much better with a ground-up OS built around it, it feels very poorly utilized by windows especially.

[plain cypress]

Yeah windows isn't the best for sure

[plush wren]

China

[frail topaz]

pfft - i might not be used to the concept who knows

[magic kraken]

See all the issues thus far with both e cores on intel and ccx on amd

[hexed tapir]

2p 50 e cores

[plain cypress]

Plz

[odd marsh]

Cinebench R23 is my favorite game

[plush wren]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-cat-sleep-cat-gif-1833006167751974340

[magic kraken]

8p 16e is honestly not an unreasonable config if the OS could manage to keep the threads on the right damn cores.

[plain cypress]

An "all p core" version would be 24 (I guess disable LP E)
Which can have use outside of gaming but please nobody buy a thousand dollar CPU for gaming it's a waste of sand and money

[frail topaz]

i mean not a waste of sand - a waste of sand would be not buying it

[plain cypress]

I'd be interested to see how a cpu with p and e cores on separate tiles would work

[magic kraken]

Sure are a lot of "random 5 letters" brands selling memory these days

[plain cypress]

Cause the 16+32 is actually 8+16 + 8+16

As far as we know

[magic kraken]

Lotta conflicting reports on gskill having stability issues on asrock x870 compared to any other combo

[candid bolt]

MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard good mobo??

or is there better abt same price

[elder quarry]

You didn’t even specify price or currency

[candid bolt]

oh sorry

[hexed tapir]

It do board things

[candid bolt]

that one is abt 1700 dkk danish

[elder quarry]

As a swede, not a good price

[candid bolt]

wdym?

[elder quarry]

MSI B650 Gaming Plus WIFI for 1500kr

[frail topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-gif-21326315

[tulip sparrow]

What happened to them using actual performance cores on a 96C CPU?

[elder quarry]

I need to sleep

[frail topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-gif-21326315

[elder quarry]

Stop frying my brain

[odd marsh]

Terrible rage bait

[tulip sparrow]

Intels E cores are their "Atom" class cores

[frail topaz]

maybe the second one should be cut out

[candid bolt]

in sweden?

[elder quarry]

Yeah

[candid bolt]

OH SHI

[candid bolt]

thats a good price

altho the mobo is good?

[elder quarry]

Well your motherboard is still good

[tulip sparrow]

Thanks for the deep belly laughter and cackling

[elder quarry]

I’d say that, mid, but mobo diff is almost none

[plain cypress]

And they've been improving significantly year over year on the small cores

[candid bolt]

AIGHT

[elder quarry]

Cheapest b650 for 1100kr

[candid bolt]

bad vrms the ig?

[elder quarry]

Yours is good I guess

[magic kraken]

Amazon has got to be the worst website I've ever tried to buy memory on.

[elder quarry]

Huh? Yeah for 1100kr

[tulip sparrow]

Which is why Intel Celeton N90/100/200/300 are all perfectly usable since that is basically what they are are all E core CPUS

[plain cypress]

They're great little mini PC/server/Nas chips

[frail topaz]

ewaste

[elder quarry]

AUTOCORRECT

[plain cypress]

An 8 core skymont part with arc media engine would be banger

[tulip sparrow]

I would agree on anything Celeron N5000 and older being EWASTE the newer stuff is NOT Ewaste as they are basically E core based cpus

[elder quarry]

E

[magic kraken]

Seems like the options are overpriced RGB barf or JEDEC speeds with not a whole lot of inbetween.

[candid bolt]

audio tech is dead ngl💔

[frail topaz]

^

[frigid blade]

Why Intel CPUs so shit now, 9950X is much better than anything Intel wise, but AMD memory controllers are poopy

[frail topaz]

lets hope amd fixed memory controllerrs with next gen so PLEASE QUAD CHANNEL

PLEASE 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏

[frigid blade]

Will it be same socket?

[plush wren]

chatgpt my beloved

[plain cypress]

We're not getting quad channel on AM5 lmao

[frail topaz]

yes

[elder quarry]

No

[magic kraken]

If they fixed their memory controller, they'd make a lot less on x3d parts

[frail topaz]

awoepirjweraiugh wsghfbuWYERGFV JKAERGHBVDFUJKLHVH ADFOLI;G'

[plain cypress]

Are you off your meds

[elder quarry]

Chill

[plush wren]

why

[frail topaz]

i mean would it REALLY be that impossible

[plush wren]

blud is waving

[odd marsh]

Shit in what way

[hexed tapir]

Do you need more than 192gb of ram

[frigid blade]

Unstable at anything over 6000 MT/s for higher capacity memory

[frail topaz]

2x96 is SUPER expensive, 4x48 is better

[odd marsh]

I’m talking the Intel CPUs I know all about AMD memory hindrances

[limber nacelle]

[frigid blade]

They are way more inefficient than AMD. And they have those buns e cores

[tulip sparrow]

Beyond something like Ai LLMS you really don't

[limber nacelle]

they don't make 92gb dimms yet

[frigid blade]

How can you pull so much power while having majority E cores

[magic kraken]

Jeez, even newegg has very few options.

[elder quarry]

E

[frail topaz]

exactly

[limber nacelle]

because they're not energy efficient, they're space efficient

you can fit 4 ecores in the space 1 p core takes iirc

at least for adl and rpl

[rigid fjord]

96gb dimms you mean

[frigid blade]

Even if, the Intel CPUs are way more power hungry and end up with lower performance

[odd marsh]

Modern E cores in a 265k i7 match a full 12700k, the new intel CPUs are pretty efficient, 60-80w in gaming, and about the same wattage as AMD counterparts in full load tests. Core ultra kicks ass at multi threaded and productivity tasks

[limber nacelle]

not at all in workstation tasks

[limber nacelle]

yeah it's just that they have kinda sad mem latency

[odd marsh]

Core ultra is poopy in gaming sure, but everywhere else it’s pretty solid

Not even poopy, it’s just alright

[frigid blade]

Yah, I saw that for the core ultras, they aren’t so bad for productivity but I need mixed use

[limber nacelle]

you're acting like they're unusuable for gaming

[odd marsh]

If you play at a res higher than 1080p it’s really fine

[limber nacelle]

they just have no appreciable uplift from rpl in that workload

[frigid blade]

Im not saying they aren’t good, but I’m pretty sure the gaming difference is pretty large for how much you’re paying

[limber nacelle]

ARL isnt that bad but it's just hard to recommend

especially if you live outside of the US

[rigid fjord]

arrow to the knee lake

[limber nacelle]

the microcentre deal is pretty kick ass

[frigid blade]

I wonder if ARM will ever have a large consumer market share in PCs

[limber nacelle]

in consumer desktops?

I doubt

[elder quarry]

I hope it will get more for laptops and handhelds

[plain cypress]

They can have better efficiency however not at the clockspeeds you want to run on desktop

[elder quarry]

Like, for gaming

Not mobile stuff

[limber nacelle]

fair ig

I've been fairly happy with both rpl cpus I've owned

[hollow creek]

im sure they would sometime in the future. the only thing stopping them is developer support

[odd marsh]

It’s an Intel cpu, of course you’re happy

[limber nacelle]

xd

[plain cypress]

Yeah the current catch is, in general, Intel is running everything way above the efficiency sweet spot

[odd marsh]

Could that possibly change with 18A?

[plain cypress]

No clue

We don't even have a confirmed node for Nova lake

[frail topaz]

intel went down with 13th gen

[odd marsh]

Didn’t we see something about 18A with clockspeed and voltage

I hope Nova would use 18A

[limber nacelle]

at 1.1v my 13900ks is efficient af

[plain cypress]

Intel went down when they invested in ASML EUV development but didn't buy any tools

[tired bear]

14+++++++

[odd marsh]

My next Intel CPU is 100% using 18A

[plain cypress]

Their 10nm (duv) is closer to competition 7nm (EUV) which is why it was heavily delayed

Intel 10nm node was pretty aggressive and they paid the price for it

[plain cypress]

Define 100%

[tired bear]

are they using asml machines or some home grown variety

[limber nacelle]

the name escapes me but didn't they buy the high na something

[plain cypress]

ASML is a monopoly

[odd marsh]

As in the next Intel CPU I will be buying will have to use 18A

Not that the whole cpu is 18A

[tired bear]

yes

[plain cypress]

😛

[tired bear]

until someone else figures out how to do euv

[odd marsh]

Cause it doesn’t make much sense for something like a base tile to use 18A

[plain cypress]

China

[tired bear]

yup

[plain cypress]

But not competitively for years to come

[tired bear]

we will see

[plain cypress]

No I guarantee it

[odd marsh]

Please nova lake 18A

[plain cypress]

These machines are some of the most advanced humans have ever made
It takes time to get it right

[odd marsh]

18A compute and a Xe3 iGPU tile 🙏

[plain cypress]

And even if they have the performance they have to integrate it into the production flow

[odd marsh]

Xe3 can be tsmc idc

[plain cypress]

It's a slow change

[tired bear]

unless they joink it from nerby island

[plain cypress]

Mainland Taiwan is up to some sketchy shit

[tired bear]

yup and US tomfoolery isnt helping

[plush wren]

https://tenor.com/view/submarine-aquiles5544-cat-good-morning-good-morning-my-love-gif-9826082078508760058

[tulip sparrow]

sighs why do laptops I buy underperform when it comes to 4k media playback?

[plain cypress]

What's the laptop specs

[tulip sparrow]

I see a ton of dropped frames when it makes no sense. AMD 5300u 4gb of ram and running linux

[frigid blade]

How can it do bad? The N100 can do 4k 60FPS playback

[plain cypress]

The only laptop I've had that couldn't handle 4k playback was a dual core broadwell i5

[tired bear]

is hardware acceleration turned on?

[tulip sparrow]

This is a ryzen based system so it makes no sense to me

@tired bear should be

[plain cypress]

Ryzen means nothing AMD has released some shit Ryzen mobile chips

[tired bear]

aw yep

[plain cypress]

The 5300u shouldn't be that bad tho

[tired bear]

maybe drivers arent installed

[plain cypress]

It's Linux maybe something is broken 😔

[frigid blade]

Are Linux drivers any good for AMD?

[tulip sparrow]

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+3+5300U&id=4288

AMD is the GOTO for Linux at least in regards to gpus

[plain cypress]

They should be fine but I'm wondering if maybe the system thinks hardware acceleration is on but it actually isn't?

[tulip sparrow]

I am using MESA

[plain cypress]

Are you hitting swap?

[tulip sparrow]

Might be with 4gb of ram

[plain cypress]

I know it's "Linux" but 4gb really isn't a lot of ram these days

[elder quarry]

No, it really isn’t

[tulip sparrow]

Here are my Firefox settings for hardware

my internet should be more then enough for 4k playback

[frigid blade]

that ping is high no?

[plain cypress]

If it was network you wouldn't be dropping frames

[frigid blade]

not that it effects it

[plain cypress]

If you monitor system resources while playing video, are any of the said resources pegged at full utilization?

[frail topaz]

i cant wait to switch to 1gbps

[tulip sparrow]

Htop isn't really showing anything

[plain cypress]

I need to post a proper speed test result when I use my desktop again next week

[elder quarry]

Use btop

Also yes it is

You’re out of ram

[tulip sparrow]

Was told to use htop in the past for linux monitoring

[elder quarry]

Htop is food

[frigid blade]

Hella top

[gleaming rose]

better get swappin

[elder quarry]

Doenload wam

Ow insert detotaded wam

[gleaming rose]

i have like a 64gb swapfile

[elder quarry]

Nice

[gleaming rose]

and iirc 4gb zram

[elder quarry]

What do you use it for

[gleaming rose]

whatever honestly

i have a tendency to keep tabs and programs open long after i need them

[frigid blade]

Wen RTX 69420

[elder quarry]

Is there a signal to suspend a program

Oops wrong search engine

[gleaming rose]

SIGSTOP/SIGCONT

[elder quarry]

Suspend

[frigid blade]

SIGSTOP

[elder quarry]

Oh

[frigid blade]

SIGGO

[elder quarry]

It is

[gleaming rose]

do you only shitpost in here

[frigid blade]

No

[gleaming rose]

lmao TIL you can send SIGILL to a process using kill

it's not exclusive to the system

[frigid blade]

I don’t shitpost much you just always catch it

[frail topaz]

jee zits 2am

[elder quarry]

Yeah

[frail topaz]

why the fuck cant i access anything

[elder quarry]

Windows

[frail topaz]

what the fuck

[elder quarry]

Chromium

[tulip sparrow]

btop is current building after installing rocm-smi-lib which is apparently required for amd gpu monitoring

[sinful cobalt]

power

[frail topaz]

no the dns is fine

i cant fucking ping .100.1

OH THANK GOD

[tulip sparrow]

lets see if this is any better

[frail topaz]

it was just my vpn 🙏

[tulip sparrow]

and with a 4k video playing

[sinful cobalt]

why a gt710 and not a geforce 256

[cinder zenith]

anyone here into NAS i just need kind of pointers whats good n what isnt type shi

[sinful cobalt]

also why 2x rtx 5080s instead of 2x 6090s

[elder quarry]

Buy cheap pc, learn truenas, done

[frigid blade]

You can probably run it on a Pi

[tulip sparrow]

AM4 instead of AM5?

[cinder zenith]

hm i had that sold the pc

[tulip sparrow]

Also you can't SLI the 5080s so 2 are worthless honestly

[sinful cobalt]

u can use both 5080s 1 to render and the other to do lossless scaling frame gen

[azure topaz]

its over

[tulip sparrow]

?

[azure topaz]

(totally fine but the ram)

[azure topaz]

does your laptop fr only have 4 gigs of ram

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-001-kamen-rider-proto-zero-one-kamen-rider-zero-one-henshin-forceriser-gif-3114128536658828070

[azure topaz]

or am i braindead and dont understand linux

or is this a vm

[elder quarry]

You aren’t

[tulip sparrow]

laptop yes only has 4gb and its soldered on so can't replace

[rapid quarry]

I expected it lol

[azure topaz]

ahhh thats unfortunate i see

[elder quarry]

);

[sinful cobalt]

jokes on u i expected for someone to respond with a cat

[tulip sparrow]

I did swap the 128gb ssd for a 1tb one

[latent gull]

https://tenor.com/view/post-this-bun-bunny-cute-20th-month-gif-1392831438645470548

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-zero-one-metal-cluster-hopper-metal-rising-impact-kamen-rider-thouser-storming-penguin-raider-gif-16333292

[elder quarry]

It’s not the 20th

[tulip sparrow]

rather early for that lol

[latent gull]

Yes it is

[sinful cobalt]

it is the 20th for him he just forgot to take his meds

[rapid quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-post-this-cat-8-gif-14928586781011591068

[latent gull]

Your 12 days late

[rapid quarry]

Average Userbenchmark mentality

[junior hawk]

I cant find a wireless mechanical keyboard for gaming with hot swappable switches (that has good wireless speed)

[azure topaz]

what

[junior hawk]

does anyone knows of one?

[azure topaz]

any 2.4ghz wireless keyboard thats mechanical with hotswap is fast enough for gaming

NOT bluetooth

the one that requires a separate dongle

[junior hawk]

yeah, the receiver

Im using a logitech 915tkl but one of my switches is just awful, and i cant replace it

[azure topaz]

epomaker shadow x is like 45$ rn

[elder quarry]

Wanna switch (you get nothing)

[azure topaz]

good for a while but my switches have started double clicking

[agile walrus]

Yoink

[azure topaz]

dubbbb

i wish bro id actually do some devious things for that price

[odd marsh]

Damn nice

[azure topaz]

i provide quality services

[odd marsh]

BB open box or smth?

[agile walrus]

Found it in the Walmart clearance section behind a bag of expired candy

[azure topaz]

walmart clearance

[odd marsh]

20$ is 20$?

[azure topaz]

yes

[sinful cobalt]

thats a god price actually

[odd marsh]

Expect a call shortly.

[azure topaz]

yeah really good. thats like extremely good value

absolutely bangin

[sinful cobalt]

the cheapest 5080 is between PNY at sgd 1850 or manli polar fox at sgd1799 in singapore

[odd marsh]

I need to snoop around my local Walmart I guess

[agile walrus]

They said it was an online return but since they don’t normally carry 5080s in store they didn’t have the shelf space so it went straight to clearance

[tawny knoll]

Fucking walmart clearance dude

[tawny knoll]

Wow thats funny asf

[plain cypress]

My local Walmart only sells regret and hatred of teenagers

[odd marsh]

Ok so buy 5080 at Walmart, return it, then go snoop clearance section

[tawny knoll]

Real

[junior hawk]

looks great for the price, do you know something that costs around 150 bucks?

[plain cypress]

Actually I've never been but it's a neighborhood market so I think that means grocery only

[plain cypress]

I need to peruse my best buy open box section next week

[agile walrus]

It wasn’t open box either it was completely sealed

[rapid quarry]

Chat is this real? Because damm

[junior hawk]

the only thing that's lacking are see through keycaps

[plain cypress]

Is he gonna take my kidney

[odd marsh]

College town BestBuy in a somewhat poorer area does not have great stock unfortunatley

[elder quarry]

Y

[tough nacelle]

guys if some one says they need a dual threadripper system with 500gbs of ram with no gpu and also connected to a game conventions fast wifi should i be worried?

[gleaming rose]

no

[mellow cairn]

odds are they are an idiot and full of shit

[gleaming rose]

yeah that is more likely tbh

[mellow cairn]

It is a good default starting point

[tough nacelle]

but it makes me confused why would some one want all that computing power but then not have a gpu

or a big ssd

[gleaming rose]

there are a lot of uses for a machine like that w/o a gpu

none of which this person will be doing

[mellow cairn]

... all that computing power and a GPU actually makes less sense

[gleaming rose]

^

[tough nacelle]

also they keep talking about something doing with some orbit cannon

[gleaming rose]

ok they're either trolling or full of shit

[tough nacelle]

are they going insane like why say they need a pc when they wanna build a cannon in space

[mellow cairn]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_Orbit_Ion_Cannon

[gleaming rose]

^

[tough nacelle]

oh now it makes sense

[mellow cairn]

is the problem that you are ALSO an idiot?

[gleaming rose]

^

[tough nacelle]

no

i just dident remember what

[gleaming rose]

bob sorry for the up arrow spam but you are smart lmfao

[gleaming rose]

jfc i remember thinking i could take down google with this lmfao

[tough nacelle]

so all those cores now make sense

and my friend is dumb

because you would need shit loads of tools to take down google

or some thing

[gleaming rose]

i just dont think anybody could if they wanted to

[mellow cairn]

haha no that's ok, this is basically my whole job, telling people that things are stupid

[gleaming rose]

the biggest ddos attack ever to date was automatically mitigated

[gleaming rose]

sounds fun

[mellow cairn]

I mean it isn't my WHOLE job, but yeah it's a significant part of it. Basically being able to confirm a negative is hugely valuable.

[gleaming rose]

you would need shit loads of powerful fast computers all around the world

[tough nacelle]

telling me that im stupid for not remembering some obsecure app from years ago?

[gleaming rose]

more than what are currently usable on the planet i bet

[mellow cairn]

DDoS is not generally a useful tool in 2025 vs times gone by

[zealous spade]

oh to see this video

[gleaming rose]

yeah

people still do em tho, and cloudflare eats them up

[mellow cairn]

You can get far better BFYB by doing more targetted methods

but DDoS generally relies on compromised hardware.

[tough nacelle]

hm

[frigid blade]

Oh yah

[mellow cairn]

Also the "centralisation" of distributed networking in a smaller amount of providers means that it's harder to a) get enough ddos power, because they get detected, and b) have enough ddos power to overcome the huge capacity of those providers

[frigid blade]

Now I need to test the higher speeds

[gleaming rose]

obvious shitpost

[mellow cairn]

yes, excellent.

[gleaming rose]

0/10

[tough nacelle]

now it makes sense

[mellow cairn]

I'm trying to get into shitposting, can I post shit?

[tough nacelle]

sure but make sure you do it the non wrong way and eat some spicy food before shitting

tips fedora

[gleaming rose]

rate the texturing here so far

(ignore the thing with the vent that is yet to be textured)

[frigid blade]

booted with 5600

[gleaming rose]

you sent this not 10 mins ago

[frigid blade]

It was 4400

[gleaming rose]

apologies

[frigid blade]

Trying 5800

Man these first boots take forever lol

Crappy timings, I’m only changing the MT/s

Because it’s my first time touching ram in the bios and I’m learning what each thing does

[loud furnace]

Welcome to a game show called-

what’s that liquid?

-# Wrong answers only

Hint, it’s edible!

[frigid blade]

I won’t be going too hard on it, but I’d like 6000 to run stable like a video I saw, if not i won’t care if it runs at 5600 or 5800

This is Intel, but I will be switching over to AMD

Asrock Prime z790-c

It booted to 5800

[gleaming rose]

i need a new anime to watch

[frigid blade]

Idk how to change the timings

Oh it’s CL34 apparently

XMP 1 6800, I don’t know the rest of the info I’ll have to check

F5-6800J3446F48GX2-RS5K

DDR5-6800 CL34-46-46-108 1.35V

I don’t think you can run in gear 1 at those speeds can you? I’m not 100% sure on how ram works kind of just learning from people here

I’ll try the xmp profile

Yah, that’s why I doubt it’ll run at 6800

Let me see if it boots 6800 CL34

[rapid quarry]

https://a.co/d/cxoxb3f

[frigid blade]

When you change the profile settings and it first boots, does take longer because of memory training?

I don’t 100% understand how it works

But I realized it takes longer on the first boot after changing something

Yah, it failed to boot the xmp profile

I didn’t need to

It put me back into the BIOS

It told me it failed to boot and to hit f2 to go setup

Is this the bios flashback thing?

Ok, 6000 CL 28?

Kk, it booted 5800 CL 30 earlier so I think it will work

From what I understand CL is cas latency and that’s how many clock cycles it takes to deliver data

That’s all I really know

I see

And now, how does gearing apply to this?

Like I get how gears work, 1:1 and 1:2

I don’t think it’s gonna boot 6000 CL30

It’s been black for a while now

My mobo uses a weird naming scheme, it says gear 2 and gear 4 not 1 and 2

I have 4 slots used

[frosty prism]

i have a 14600kf and a 5070, should i just ignore temps under 90c because I keep overthinking and worrying

[frigid blade]

What the heck

It booted but like, blue screen lol

6000 30

It’s not usable

Just a blank blue screen

Did you check earlier what my mobo can do?

I’ll check if you didn’t one sec

Idk if I can even get into the bios now

I think I have a jumper

Right? You can use the cmos jumper?

To reset bios

These 2 pins, that’s what I use to clear cmos

I turned off the pc and turned it on, it posted but it’s taking a while to get into the bios

Unless I missed the time to click f2

No, you have to hit a key

Really?

[azure topaz]

ddr5 loccked pmic max voltage is like 1.42

[frigid blade]

That was the xmp profile I think

[azure topaz]

no

[frigid blade]

No clue

[azure topaz]

its not

he can probably go to like 2 volts on the ram on his board

[frigid blade]

I’m trying to get into the bios first

[azure topaz]

the lowest your sticks work at

1.35 will probably work provided the dimms are hynix

what makes you think its not just a faulty kit of ram

[frigid blade]

I have no clue what it’s running at rn

I’m not running the profile

[azure topaz]

if he didnt turn on expo its not even at 60000

[frigid blade]

It’s XMP

[azure topaz]

update the bios first then try again

[frigid blade]

it’s up to date, I’m still on the Intel board

I updated it like 2 days ago

I’m trying but the fucker won’t turn on lol

[azure topaz]

what chip?

😭 do not do this

theres no stick on the world that wwould need 1.45 volts

[frigid blade]

Idk, whatever the Asrock prime z790-c has

[azure topaz]

what cpu

[frigid blade]

13900kf

[azure topaz]

well your ram isn’t ddr5 so stop 😭

[azure topaz]

try adding a 15mv offset

[frigid blade]

Ok. I know it registered my key to get into the bios, but I don’t know if it will actually get there

It’s just a blank screen

[sinful cobalt]

force it into the DDR5 slot, easy upgrade

[azure topaz]

tweaker menu or whatever, voltage to adaptive, offset mode +, 0.015V

well tbh try a cmos clear first but

[frigid blade]

Bruh, I have to clear CMOS

Lemme try the jumper first before I do the battery thing

[azure topaz]

mkaaay

[latent gull]

...the what menu?

[frigid blade]

The one for tweakers

[azure topaz]

deadass called the ai tweaker menu on my board

[frigid blade]

Yah, same

Yah it’s just blank screen I’ll clear cmos

[latent gull]

AI tweaker menu very different than tweaker menu :P

[frigid blade]

Is the pc supposed to be on or off /j

[azure topaz]

not really. there’s boards that even say just tweaker menu im pretty sure

[wet ember]

i JUST updated this game yesterday

[latent gull]

why

[azure topaz]

because it’s the menu for tweakers

[wet ember]

is mw2 even receiving updates?

[rapid quarry]

Well update it faster then

[latent gull]

no i meant why were they updating cod

[wet ember]

in order to play it

[rapid quarry]

They are handwriting every 1 and 0

[wet ember]

so i'm using university wifi

speeds are no where near 500 mbps

[limber nacelle]

🙂

[wet ember]

i get 500 mbps at home on a good day

[rapid quarry]

In my experience, that is either crazy fast or ungodly slow

[wet ember]

it's somewhere in the middle. rn 11 MBps so like 88 mbps

i get low ping in games

like less than 10 ms

i think, sometimes

[frigid blade]

Ok I tried the jumper thing

Let’s see if it works

Damn I hate how long it takes to boot now

[rapid quarry]

This is the Wifi in my University library rn. But that is because it is late and there isnt much traffic

[frigid blade]

@azure topaz ok so 6000 CL 30 and offset by .015V?

[azure topaz]

just try no xmp first

? 😭

[frigid blade]

No XMP doesn’t boot 6000 CL30

[wet ember]

i consider that to be decently fast

nothing crazy, just fast

[azure topaz]

but does it work 😭

brother. i was talking about the cpu.

[frigid blade]

Oh

13900kf

[azure topaz]

like does default bios go to windows

[frigid blade]

Yah at 3600

[azure topaz]

what ram config you runnin

96 gig right?

[frigid blade]

192

[azure topaz]

bro stop talking

[azure topaz]

oh, 4 sticks?

[odd marsh]

oh no wonder

[frigid blade]

Ok, I have the RAM set to 6000 and CL30, now I have to change CPU settings?

It boots 5800 CL30

[azure topaz]

dont i didnt know you were on 4 sticks 😭

yeah just set 5600 and be done

dont change any timings bro PLEASE stop

you dont even have ddr5 😭

its not the same bro

[frigid blade]

I’ll set the timing to auto like it was before

[rapid quarry]

I ought to benchmark my internet at my dorm because that has felt faster on Ethernet

[azure topaz]

and ddr5 is different than ddr4. just stop.

[frigid blade]

And 5800 since that booted, I’ll test the stability and drop to 5600 if it’s not stable

[azure topaz]

👍 you can leave XMP on during this and jhust change the frequency after you set XMP

[wet ember]

i have never gotten the chance to ever use ethernet. what's it like compared to wifi?

[gilded sparrow]

Man i aint ever buying computer parts from Walmart onlie. Again

and fuck fed ex

[frigid blade]

I have XMP set to auto, just not using the profile it has

[azure topaz]

auto means disabled

[frigid blade]

Well the xmp profile on there doesn’t boot

But when it’s set to auto it does let me change the ram settings

[azure topaz]

does it let you change the frequency after you set a profile?

[rapid quarry]

Much more reliable. By far.

[frigid blade]

Only on auto, profile selected no

[azure topaz]

augh i hate slight bios differences

[odd marsh]

Aren't you on asrock? I am pretty sure you can

[azure topaz]

yeah just leave it auto and run 5800 or 5600

[odd marsh]

but i dont want to go into my bios sorry

[azure topaz]

no need to change any of the timings

4 sticks is hard af on the board and cpu to run for ddr5

generally though if you need capacity you dont care for speed

[frigid blade]

Am I right to assume that if Asrock has gear 2 and 4, it means 1 and 2?

[azure topaz]

no its just gear 2 and 4

[gilded sparrow]

Anyone else have issues with fed ex

[azure topaz]

d5 doesnt run g1

[frigid blade]

Really?

Someone said earlier it did

[odd marsh]

dude you just posted about fedex in here less than 5 minutes ago, and in the other chat as well, calm down

[frigid blade]

Just lower capacity or something

[odd marsh]

You can maybe get G1 on AMD but not on Intel

[frigid blade]

Ah yah, the video I saw had it running 6000 with 192 on g1 but it was amd

Idk what the cl was tho

[azure topaz]

its still not really g1

[gilded sparrow]

Yeah no im just extremely pissed disassembled my entire pc for parts that were supposed to arrive today just fir fed ex and hour after they were supposed to be here say oh yeah now its Thursday

[azure topaz]

not worth explaining right now though 😭

[junior hawk]

when you say this you mean anything but FPS right?

[frigid blade]

Aha, that’s what I remember someone said they aren’t really g1

[odd marsh]

Typical shipping issues it happens to everyone

[azure topaz]

bro what. i said gaming

thats GAMES bro EVERYTHING

[junior hawk]

[azure topaz]

what is your problem 😭

[gilded sparrow]

On top of the funeral i had today was hoping for a distraction

[hollow creek]

some would argue 2.4ghz can be faster for gaming but id rather not go into that

[gilded sparrow]

Just fuck man

[odd marsh]

Sorry to hear but I am not a therapist

[azure topaz]

its basically no different than wired ill say that

even like 8+ years ago testing on ltt

[gilded sparrow]

Wasnt implying u were wasnt planning on ranting about that besides fed ex because fuck shipping

[azure topaz]

i highly suggest that if you dont need 192 gigs daniel that you dont run 4 sticks

[frigid blade]

@azure topaz what’s a good free ram stability benchmark app?

[gilded sparrow]

My town needs a microcenter

[azure topaz]

you can use OCCT ram test, it should be more than good enough

[junior hawk]

the epomaker shadow x has like 12-13 ms of response, it feels kinda low if i compare them with others, but i don't know how noticeable the difference is

[gilded sparrow]

I think occt has one

[frigid blade]

Istg if this doesn’t boot, it booted earlier

[azure topaz]

you will not feel the difference

[odd marsh]

you won't notice a difference

[gilded sparrow]

Unless its for a business then ur not allowed to use occt without purchasing it

[azure topaz]

WHAT

other way around dingus

[junior hawk]

so that's something only pro players notice

[odd marsh]

no

[frigid blade]

So like winrar?

[azure topaz]

its something nobody notices bro

[azure topaz]

AGAIN other way around

[frigid blade]

Businesses get it for free and consumers have to pay?

That’s stupid

[azure topaz]

you can use it for free for personal use. not if youre in a business or commercial scenario where youre making money with the software

[odd marsh]

please only just listen to Floppa he is very wise in RAM, everyone else is misinformed

[gilded sparrow]

No

[hollow creek]

no they dont, pro players play with sometimes slower latency equipment provided by sponsors and they do just fine

it is just much too small to take a look into

[frigid blade]

I am yah, I’m glad he’s on lol

[gilded sparrow]

Ik for a fact thats not the case @azure topaz wtf u on?

[frigid blade]

It seems to have booted after it posted 3 times?

[azure topaz]

kinda normal kinda not

[frigid blade]

Oop, blue screen

Inaccessible boot device? What???

[azure topaz]

jfc

[gilded sparrow]

I JUST SAID THAT

[azure topaz]

OCCT personal is the free one

[frigid blade]

Yah he did say that

[azure topaz]

unless its for a business then ur not allowed to use occt without purchasing it

[gilded sparrow]

Unless tor buissness

[gilded sparrow]

No ur twisting context

[azure topaz]

no i am not

[gilded sparrow]

I see now i forgot a comma

[azure topaz]

you just got the words mixed up i guess 😭

[gilded sparrow]

Im dyslexic cur me slack and the guy git the point

[frigid blade]

What’s better, 5600 CL 30 or 5800 CL 32

[azure topaz]

5800 c32

[odd marsh]

whatever you can boot at this point

[azure topaz]

but that

why are you on 4 sticks though, is there any reason?

[junior hawk]

aight im buying the epomaker shadow x

[odd marsh]

Just gotta fuck around and find out

[gilded sparrow]

Wait if u have both ram sticks in will it boot

[frigid blade]

Gaming desktop VMs

And other shenanigans

[azure topaz]

then just run something stable dont worry about maxing freq

[odd marsh]

Surely 96 is enough no

[azure topaz]

i heavilt suggest running 2 sticks if you want real frequency

[gilded sparrow]

@azure topaz isnt ddr5 known to run better with 2 sticks then 4?

[azure topaz]

thats what im goin on about, yea

[frigid blade]

Idrc about frequency, just trying to get as much out of it as I can

[azure topaz]

you just contradicted yourself

just set it to like 4800 and enjoy a working system with a shit ton of ram

[gilded sparrow]

Disable xmp then

[gilded sparrow]

I run 4800

Just fine with my vms

[junior hawk]

which switch is the least loud, yellow, mulan or linear

[azure topaz]

its not a huge difference unless youre manually tuning anyways, xmp vs no xmp

[sinful cobalt]

ur missing out by not downloading the latest DDR7 ram

[frigid blade]

I don’t think XMP is on anyway lol

[sinful cobalt]

goes to 30000mts

[gilded sparrow]

What cpu are u running

[azure topaz]

13900kf

[frigid blade]

Man, these first boots take forever

Can’t wait to set it and forget that bios

[gilded sparrow]

Ur cpu can only do 5600 ddr5

[frigid blade]

It was running 5800 just fine

[azure topaz]

no it cant but im not going to explain how intel specs their cpus

it can go higher. his ram configuration (4 sticks) is the reason why its not.

[gilded sparrow]

Just searched it up

[azure topaz]

brother im at fucking 7200 mhz

the spec is not the max

[frigid blade]

It ran 6800 with 2 sticks

[azure topaz]

yes

logic would state that 4 sticks is why its not doing that now

[distant frigate]

DNA storage. Sounds pretty experimental lol

[frigid blade]

Oh yah, I understand that

[azure topaz]

so just run 4800 auto and be done since you need capacity>speed

or 5600 if that works with no hiccups

[gilded sparrow]

Officially

[azure topaz]

😐

[frigid blade]

This dude

[gilded sparrow]

Not officially it can do faster but itel states a maximum speed of 5600 drr5 look it up

[odd marsh]

Mine is officially rated for 6400 but I can do 8000 easily

[azure topaz]

every 13th gen unlocked cpu (provided the board can) can do at least 7200mhz

[azure topaz]

i dont give a singular shit about the bullshit ai answer man

[distant frigate]

Also some people think that things last forever on the internet but data can get corrupted after a long time, etc.

[frigid blade]

I don’t think anyone uses the Intel specs sheet to see the supported ram speed

[azure topaz]

no

[azure topaz]

the spec just isnt relevant

[sinful cobalt]

the official max is always in a safety bracket

[gilded sparrow]

Right here

[azure topaz]

every am5 cpu besides borderline defective ones will do 6000mhz ram

[frigid blade]

This makes no sense I booted 5800 earlier and it worked just fine

[frigid blade]

I know dude I’m saying no one uses it

[odd marsh]

got lucky

[azure topaz]

if its after you tried 6000mhz xmp reset cccmos entirely and start lower than go up

so start at like 5200 then 5600 then try 5800

[odd marsh]

I've booted some wack DDR5 configs only for a terrible bluescreen to occur

[azure topaz]

it caan be back to back its just so the board knows whats up and trains it slightly less stupid

[gilded sparrow]

It can do faster with no but intel only officialy aupprts 5600 so start with that and the. Go.from there

[frigid blade]

No i mean 5800 “boots” to a blue screen

Inaccessible boot device

[azure topaz]

i dont think 5600 is gonna work then 💀

[gilded sparrow]

Boot?

[azure topaz]

oh wait is it in csm or uefi mode

[frigid blade]

Idk

[gilded sparrow]

Wait if it cant find the boot device wouldn't that be his ssd or hdd

[azure topaz]

your drive is in likely the opposite boot mode of what it is in now so its not reading it

[odd marsh]

clear! that! cmos!

[frigid blade]

Maybe when I reset the cmos it changed the settings

[azure topaz]

he did which is why its doin this

[frigid blade]

Yah

[azure topaz]

yes

[odd marsh]

oh ok

[gilded sparrow]

Thats the point

[frigid blade]

Forgot about that

[frigid blade]

I didn’t know the drive settings weren’t the default ones

[azure topaz]

go into the boot tab and maybe swap it from uefi or something to legacy

or the opposite if its set to legacy

[frigid blade]

Yah I’m waiting for it to post

[azure topaz]

🫡

[azure topaz]

its probably cause you started on an older bios with different defaults

then updated so when you reset theyre not the same

[frigid blade]

I bought the computer used

So maybe they tweaked settings before me

[azure topaz]

yeah that too

[frigid blade]

Bruh the memory training takes so loooong

[odd marsh]

welcome to messing with ram

[gilded sparrow]

Welcome to fucking with anything in general

[odd marsh]

this is why a lot of people run 2 sticks, select XMP then set it and forget it

[gilded sparrow]

I can't even set xmp

It just says disabled doesn't givee the option

[odd marsh]

are you also running 4 sticks or smth

[gilded sparrow]

Probably because i have really shitty ram

[gilded sparrow]

No 2

[azure topaz]

do your sticks have an xmp profile?

if no... thats why...

[gilded sparrow]

Probably not dont laugh im running patriot signature

[azure topaz]

are they rated for only 4800 on the page

[gilded sparrow]

Ye

[azure topaz]

if yes then they do not have an xmp profile

[gilded sparrow]

Ik