tech-chat-1

[glad fog]

When gaben says

[elder quarry]

Hu

[glad fog]

Apparently HLX is not far out

[abstract wigeon]

already beat it twice 😔

[elder quarry]

Oh

[tidal geyser]

time to do it a third time

[abstract wigeon]

my guess is its an alyx sequal for deckard cus deckard is 'soon'

[glad fog]

i dont think so

[tidal geyser]

i wonder what game we will see once the new VR headset comes from valve

[glad fog]

in that anniversary doc they did they acknowledged it at least so i feel the chances of Half Life 3 or even Half Life 2 Episode 3 were drastically improved

[rigid fjord]

alexa 😉

[abstract wigeon]

begging for an alyx sequel, alyx is probably my faveourite vr game of all time its such high quality

but portal vr would be sick, or a whole new title

[odd marsh]

Motion sickness the game 🗣️

[tidal geyser]

O YES PORTAL

PLEAS I BEG SO MUCH i NEED another portal game

[abstract wigeon]

whatever engine they did alyx in is great i hope they keep it up

[tidal geyser]

cmon

[abstract wigeon]

played way too many mods trying to fill the portal 3 hole

[tidal geyser]

source 2 kinda made for it

[abstract wigeon]

honestly portal 2 vr mod wasnt bad at all

[plush wren]

where on earth do you plan to fit a wheel stand

[gloomy sleet]

where my chair is

you can get folding ones

[rapid quarry]

Portal Revolution was amazing

[plush wren]

none

[plush wren]

[gloomy sleet]

who tf is that

[elder quarry]

Both suck, take your time

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/linus-tech-tips-computer-hammer-ltt-linus-gif-934761756649491133

[frigid blade]

Cant get it over 6800

But it works now

[tidal geyser]

at 1:2

[frigid blade]

Sadly my mobo bios doesnt let me force it into gear mode 1

[tidal geyser]

it cant

[gloomy sleet]

who?

[tidal geyser]

its physically not possible for it to go 1:1

[frigid blade]

didnt we see the guy do it in his bios?

[tidal geyser]

NO???

[frigid blade]

I thought I showed you the youtube video

[tidal geyser]

bullshit

[elder quarry]

Windows is confusing

[tidal geyser]

uhm that is 4 sticks

anyways ryzen 7000 and 9000 will not do much more then 6000MT at 1:1

[frigid blade]

https://youtu.be/NtMIppL9UC4?t=1089

timestamped

[tidal geyser]

at 6k

[frigid blade]

im gonna try to do what he did

yah, sorry, i shouldve said i dont plan on trying 6800 with 192gb lol

[tidal geyser]

just do not do a lot above 6000

[tidal geyser]

you are 6800 in windows

[frigid blade]

ill do 6000 or under

[rapid quarry]

All but the bottom left are fake

[frigid blade]

right now yah thats what i had it set as, just enabled the XMP profile

Why does system use so much ram

[tidal geyser]

it does not

[serene pumice]

Make it 6900

[tidal geyser]

not possible

[serene pumice]

Lame

[frigid blade]

im idling at 25GB

[tidal geyser]

windows only really uses 4GB any more then that and its extra shit you are running

[tidal geyser]

its not idle

[frigid blade]

lemme check after a reboot actually

ill get a more realistic number, its been on for a while

[azure topaz]

im 93% sure i eplained to u that 6800 is slower than 6000

[tidal geyser]

i already did

[azure topaz]

well maybe not explained but i did tell you that 6000 1:1 is faster than 6800 in any possible scenario

[tidal geyser]

anyways unless you are using like 90GB of ram then you are fine

[azure topaz]

you could full tune 6800 run kinda basic 6000 timings and it would still clap the shit out of it

just cause the fclk is missing too much in 1:2 at that freq

[tidal geyser]

i have a question, when ram is in 1:2 is it really just making the ram half as fast

[azure topaz]

kinda

the ram isnt really the problem its the fclk

[frigid blade]

yes, i already understand that, i didnt change the speed yet, this is just default profile

[tidal geyser]

what was it like 7200MT+ before you see any better performance for 1:2

[azure topaz]

7600

ram still is at that speed but the memory controller and fclk arent at a speed fast enough to utilize it

[halcyon beacon]

Idk why it's a 'battle of the handhelds', the only actual competitor is the PSP

[tidal geyser]

would that do as much load on the IMC as 6000MT 1:1

[azure topaz]

you get the latency benefits of the frequency but you wouldnt get any bandwidth

(ryzen wouldnt regardless but)

[tidal geyser]

no

[azure topaz]

im not sure

[azure topaz]

generally 8000 is possible on more chips at the optimal ratio than 6400 is

the only reason to ever do 2:1 is if you want high frequency or if your chip sucks at 1:1

[tidal geyser]

mine does not :3

[azure topaz]

a chip that cant do 6200 could still very well possibly do 8000

[frigid blade]

Bro

It doesn’t even let me change to gear 1 at 6000

[tidal geyser]

what is a good way to try and get ram to see if i can do 6600MT 1:1 with my IMC

[azure topaz]

just uhh set 6000 ram speed, 2000 fclk, and set UCLK div mode to 1:1

[tidal geyser]

it does

[frigid blade]

It just says “auto, gear 2, gear 4”

[azure topaz]

spend months in the bios playing with various odt's etc

[frigid blade]

Do I have to reboot first for 6000 to go into effect?

[tidal geyser]

well your in the bios

after you hit save it will boot at 6000MT

[azure topaz]

after that ill probably auto in "1:1'"

[frigid blade]

Kk

[azure topaz]

also im going to explain this real quicj

1:1 on am5 is not 1:1 like it is on am4

you wont ever hit 3000FCLK on am5

[tidal geyser]

am4 fclk is also the same

while doing 1:1

[azure topaz]

yea

[tidal geyser]

on am4 you can get everything maching and that is how ya get the best performance out of it

[azure topaz]

3:2:3 ratio is what it is actually on am5

[tidal geyser]

noice

[azure topaz]

memory:fclk:uclk

[tidal geyser]

i wonder if its possible to do true 1:1:1 on zen 6

[azure topaz]

yes

[frigid blade]

Nope still can’t choose gear 1

[narrow oak]

1. sam altman
2. jeff bezos
3. elon musk
4. sundar pichai
5. jensen huang

[azure topaz]

its possible to do true 1:1:1 now i think it would obviously just be slowe

[azure topaz]

set g2 and see if its just named weird in your bios lol

[azure topaz]

is there a UCLK div mode?

if not thats probably it, set to g2 and thats probably UCLK=MCLK

asrock bios i have no clue about

[tidal geyser]

it might be a case of budget ballers being able to do good speed 1:1:1 while the ones that are able to do FAST RAM can do insane speeds

[frigid blade]

Is there a way to check the gear while booted?

[azure topaz]

yes

[frigid blade]

What’s the app called

[tidal geyser]

zentimings

[azure topaz]

load up cpu-z or like anything lol

memory controller frequency tells u

[tidal geyser]

zen timings ❤️

[azure topaz]

if its the same as your mclk its 1:1

if its half its 2:1

mclk=memory clock

not the effective clock the actual clock, so 6000mhz=3000 in all reality

optimal frequencies for 6000 then would be 3000:2000:3000

[tidal geyser]

6000MT=3000MHZ

[azure topaz]

yea

[tidal geyser]

since DDR

double data rate

[frigid blade]

Um

[odd marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/grandmas-boy-dance-dance-revolution-gif-5379946

[frigid blade]

What’s the website for the zen timing thing?

[tidal geyser]

I KNEW someone was gonna do that

[frigid blade]

Is the cert expired?

[azure topaz]

https://www.techpowerup.com/download/amd-ryzen-zen-timings/

[odd marsh]

I got you bro

[frigid blade]

I’m on Intel rn

[azure topaz]

no wonder theres no gear 1 i thought you were on amd 💀

[tidal geyser]

did you not say you were going amd??

[odd marsh]

[frigid blade]

Hasn’t come yet

[tidal geyser]

😐

[azure topaz]

6800 g2 is optimal then 👍

[frigid blade]

Bruh

I said I was on Intel earlier

[azure topaz]

i thought yopu said you were amd 😭

[frigid blade]

I said “I’m on Intel atm” or something

lol

[azure topaz]

i mustve saw the list you said you were buying a while ago and didnt see that you had a computer in the mean time

[tidal geyser]

you did

like 4hrs ago

[azure topaz]

my fault then yea ur good at g2

[frigid blade]

The zen timing page has an expired cert I think

[azure topaz]

yes probably

zen timings doesnt work on intel anyways

[tidal geyser]

it does

[tidal geyser]

HMMMMMMM i wonder why

[azure topaz]

me too man

[frigid blade]

Welp time to go back into bios

[azure topaz]

💀 🫡

[odd marsh]

Asrock board, asrock timing configurator hmmm

[azure topaz]

asrtc just works on any intel board

[tidal geyser]

asrtc?

[odd marsh]

It’s the goat

[azure topaz]

asrock timing configurator

[tidal geyser]

a

[azure topaz]

i am NOT typing that shit out everytime i mention it

it gets abbreviated

[frigid blade]

Should I enable dynamic memory boost?

[odd marsh]

Wouldn’t it just be atc

[azure topaz]

nope

[frigid blade]

I was trying to understand it but I really don’t

[azure topaz]

everyone else before me abbreviated it as asrtc

[odd marsh]

No that’ll make your memory angry

[frigid blade]

Same with realtime memory frequency

[azure topaz]

yo basically any optyion in your bios that claims to make your memory faster that isnt xmp can be left auto or off

[candid bolt]

how much does ghz matter in a cpu?

[azure topaz]

because it does NOT make your memory faster 💀

[odd marsh]

Asrock timing turbo boost is terrifying that shit made my ram so unstable

[azure topaz]

yeah you can leave this off this one isnt a performance thing

real time memory freq is more for the timings but it allows you to change it while in OS

[slender hull]

Depends, would prefer more cores over 0.6 ghz more

[night urchin]

If i get a wifi motherboard do I HAVE to use the antena or is it optional. I plan to use ethernet.

[odd marsh]

No than it’s fine

[azure topaz]

you answered your own question

if youre not using wifi what do you need a good wifi signal for

[boreal vine]

💔 my pccc

[night urchin]

oh dam

[azure topaz]

if you use bluetooth you might want to put the antennas on anyways

[tidal geyser]

or just backup

[candid bolt]

so im thinking abt the 7500f, MAYBE 7800x3d if i get the money altho they can get oc to 5 ghz each, sould ithen overclock?

[slender hull]

Well dont play qhd lol

[tidal geyser]

had my cable fail on me and needed to use wifi

[tidal geyser]

wut

[azure topaz]

hes jsut spwning shit

[night urchin]

i dont think any of my stuff is using bluetooth

[azure topaz]

then dw about it 🫡

[night urchin]

not even my mouse and keyboard

[tidal geyser]

also why do you care about frequency?

[frigid blade]

I forgot to bring the antennas for my motherboard IO thing and I tried to use the Bluetooth

[candid bolt]

i dont, im asking sould i

[azure topaz]

no

[frigid blade]

If I turned the headphones the wrong way it would cut out

[azure topaz]

frequency only matters when comparing cpus of the same gen or to itself

[candid bolt]

what does ghz do?

[slender hull]

you know you can just use a repeating command block instead of using a clokc?

[tidal geyser]

number

[azure topaz]

its the clock speed of your cpu, basically how fast its doing instructions, but cpus can do more instructions in 1 clock than another

[tidal geyser]

its IPC that matters

[azure topaz]

so clock speed is very complicated and cant be compared across cpu generations or platforms or brands

[tidal geyser]

and also cache

and then this and that and so on

[candid bolt]

so i souldent over clock it?

[azure topaz]

doesnt matter

[frigid blade]

If you don’t have to, I wouldn’t

[candid bolt]

aight

[azure topaz]

if youre asking its an instant no

[tidal geyser]

like a 8GHz fx 8350 is not going to get close to even a modern i3

[random snow]

I’ve had my Anne pro 2 for like 5 years.. any recommendations for upgrades around 100 usd

[candid bolt]

u think a 7500f will be okay for 1440 gaming on high?

[azure topaz]

100%

[tidal geyser]

yes

[frigid blade]

Anne Pro 3

[tidal geyser]

get a 5090 too

[azure topaz]

chronological ass upgrades

[candid bolt]

not 9070 xt?

[tidal geyser]

i use 5090 as in a great way to show your probs gpu limited before cpu

[thorn pewter]

not even that high, even the 5950 at 5ghz turbo would be smoked by any weak 3rd gen i5 with 4cs at 3.4 ghz bro😭

[tidal geyser]

but no 7500F and 9070 xt is REALLY good combo for 1440p

[thorn pewter]

u watched da new ltt vid didnt you

[serene pumice]

8 GHZ!!1 Wicked!

Intel could only dream

[thorn pewter]

who needs integrated graphics anyways

[candid bolt]

fr

[frigid blade]

Is it generally safe to buy off brand monitors? I don’t think I’ve ever bought a well known brand

[tidal geyser]

it got beaten by a 13900k or was it even just a 12900k

[tidal geyser]

product>brand

[candid bolt]

yuh

[odd marsh]

Me

[frigid blade]

Yah, I’ve always bought the cheapest one I could find that said it had similar specs, obviously not a huge price difference but enough to not think it’s lying

But sometimes I wonder if there’s a difference

[tidal geyser]

use rtings for monitors

[candid bolt]

what??? 5090 x 7500f or 9070 xt?

[frigid blade]

Is 42 inches for a monitor big? It’s a tv but it does run 120Hz

[odd marsh]

Integrated graphics are fucking goated it’s awesome

[tidal geyser]

5090 is like 3k USD

[kindred halo]

At best

[thorn pewter]

at least

[odd marsh]

42” OLED? They are fantastic monitors

Just get a 3’+ deep desk

[candid bolt]

DUDE I THOUGH IT WAS BUGDET?! dont have that dude

[frigid blade]

Yep, it’s a $500 42 inch 4k OLED

[kindred halo]

Depending on the CPU atleast
Intel's LGA 1700 iGPUs though are fire, I can atleast say that

[tidal geyser]

how do you not know what a 5090 is?

[odd marsh]

I’d do that on a heart beat

[frigid blade]

That’s why I’m asking, it’s extremely cheap for OLED

[kindred halo]

.. How's a 5090 budget?

[frigid blade]

I’ve always wanted to switch

[steel umbra]

But but bigger number

better

[kindred halo]

It's the newest flagship card

[odd marsh]

I like Intel stuff, and I will always buy them with iGPUs as quicksync is great

[kindred halo]

It's gonna be expensive

[kindred halo]

The iGPUs are also good for general doohickeys too

[odd marsh]

There are multiple people in this server who run that exact same display as a monitor and they love it

[odd marsh]

Yeah especially on the recent gen as it’s just Arc cores

[frigid blade]

Good, I’ve been eyeing it on best buy for a while

Maybe I can find a discount code also

[kindred halo]

I genuinely don't understand why AMD doesn't do stuff like this for their standard SKUs

[candid bolt]

idk

[odd marsh]

Wait it’s 500$ where which model

[kindred halo]

Like, vega 7/8-11 on their processors

[frigid blade]

lol, open box but I don’t mind as long as it works without screen scratches, lemme get the model

New is $550 I think or something

[kindred halo]

Wait, actual Arc cores like on the A770 & B580?

[plain cypress]

4 WGP with AV1 encode/decode on the IOD would be baller for zen6

[odd marsh]

Yes from the first gen, alchemist cores

[boreal vine]

I'm testing pc

[plain cypress]

The LPG flavor akin to the mobile chips, but yeah

[kindred halo]

Holy shit imagine Battlemage Architecture on the later 1851s

[plain cypress]

Xe HPG = Arc A series
Xe2 HPG = Arc B series
Xe LPG = MTL/ARL
Xe2 LPG = LNL

[frigid blade]

$530 in excellent condition B4 series

[plain cypress]

Imagine more 1851 releases...

[odd marsh]

Oh that’s 48” not 42”

[frigid blade]

Oh yah, my bad

[odd marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/john-krasinski-jim-the-office-office-gif-15508780473272374119

[tidal geyser]

might only get a refresh if we get lucky

[frigid blade]

I knew it was in the 40s

But still, I’d say it’s a steal

Maybe it’s a bit large tho

[odd marsh]

It’ll still be a good display, just have to sit farther back than you would from a 42”

[kindred halo]

Wait.. 1151, 1851
1200 - 1151 = 49
1851 + 49 = 1900

I now know the newest socket Intel will use

[boreal vine]

we're down to 1 fps

[kindred halo]

LGA 1900

[plain cypress]

There will be some sort of refresh
I saw a rumor they may lift the cache clocks for a k SKU refresh

[kindred halo]

@odd marsh LGA 1900 Core ultra CPU with Battlemage RT cores in it :3

Omg I just got a VERY dumb idea

[tidal geyser]

core ultra already does

[kindred halo]

Battlemage architecture cores

[kindred halo]

-VRAM Expansion card that goes in the PCIe slot to help your iGPU

Will pretty much REQUIRE PCIe 5.0 though

[odd marsh]

I’m hoping Nova Lake, the next real core arch will be Xe3 celestial cores

[elder quarry]

Huh

[kindred halo]

And won't ever happen because it's a very stupid idea

Because why not just use standard RAM

[frigid blade]

When revive xe Intel CPUs

[kindred halo]

-From 4GB up to 32

[odd marsh]

Way too far and latency

[latent gull]

Why the fuck does this have an AI on it?

[kindred halo]

Don't iGPUs already do that

[latent gull]

What the fuck does AI have to do with that tv?

[kindred halo]

Using your DIMM RAM

[elder quarry]

Designed by AI

[kindred halo]

PCIe I understand

I am just giving a very stupid idea

[odd marsh]

That’s much closer than a pcie slot

[kindred halo]

Yeah I know

[frigid blade]

Apparently uses its “ai processor” to figure out where you are watching and improve picture and sound quality there

[elder quarry]

Upscaling on a tv

[kindred halo]

Well uhmmmmm
How about specialised PCIe x4/x8 slot that's specifically made for a VRAM card? :3

[latent gull]

Ridiculous

[kindred halo]

PCIe 5.0 or the totally real 5.1

[elder quarry]

Processor too weak to handle 30 MBps or something

[frigid blade]

Idrc as long as it does the 120Hz 4K native

[elder quarry]

What are you talking about

[kindred halo]

And either already comes with RAM in it or you clip in whichever DDR generation you bought it for

[night urchin]

what power supply should i get for the radeon rx 7700 xt

[kindred halo]

Very stupid stuff

[elder quarry]

https://dontasktoask.com

[kindred halo]

I started by giving an idea for a VRAM card for the iGPU to use (don't mention DIMM RAMs please)

[night urchin]

uhh

[kindred halo]

Then gave a solution to fix latency

Now I am improving on the VRAM card design

[elder quarry]

Uh what, your question was bad

[night urchin]

how

[elder quarry]

You can’t do worse

[kindred halo]

Would it have a heatsink? Like, a low-profile gpu-ish heatsink? :3

[kindred halo]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/preview?pli=1#gid=1973454078
Search a little, but keep referring to this list

C tier is the MINIMUM you can use

For a 7700 XT, techpowerup usually answers that question

[night urchin]

ok thx

[kindred halo]

Atleast in wattage terms

Next time please, do your own research

[elder quarry]

“What PSU should I have for this build that could be SFF, or EATX with a 7700xt, and I’m too lazy to say what CPU or even TDP has (the build) so why not just post this question that is hard to read because I forgot my punctuation marks with intention”

[elder quarry]

Heck! It could even be a rack build!

[elder quarry]

Or.. try to send something that we can work with

[kindred halo]

Fair enough

[thorn cove]

any updates on gpu prices?

[elder quarry]

Google

[low nacelle]

What are prices for Chinese goods looking like in the USA, ie mice and keyboards?

[onyx lake]

Would you guys rather have a 2080 ti or a 3070 (same price)

[kindred halo]

So many question marks

[low nacelle]

1080 or 1440p?

[agile stag]

me after they offer me the best tv for only 100$ but im BROKE GRRR

im gonna seethe if i cant manifest this money

[thorn cove]

google shows results from 2022, but pcpartpicker shows same prices. It looks like a very nice restock in one week

[frigid blade]

Print some money

[agile stag]

hmm maybe thats the goal

[tidal geyser]

prices still shit

takes time to ramp production

[clear spruce]

sim

[tidal geyser]

and if you are in the US then RIP

[kindred halo]

I can send you 130 if you send me back 130000*10³

[clear spruce]

idk if you used it but, dyk Y8.com?

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/submarine-aquiles5544-cat-good-morning-good-morning-my-love-gif-9826082078508760058

[tidal geyser]

yes

[clear spruce]

YOOOOOOOOOOO

[frigid blade]

If I was president I’d make a national holiday where you get a free chick fil a meal

[thorn cove]

The tarrifs affect prices worldwide right?

[clear spruce]

LETS GO DUDE

[frigid blade]

Instead of tarrifs

[agile stag]

hmm ill consider it

[onyx lake]

both

[clear spruce]

sim, guess my fav game on Y8

[agile stag]

it is a pretty nice tv,,,

[tidal geyser]

only a tiny tiny bit but MASSIVE for the US

[thorn cove]

gotcha

[tidal geyser]

keep in mind almost no computer parts get made in the US

[frigid blade]

They definitely affected stock markets world wide

[hexed tapir]

But it wouldn't be free

[tidal geyser]

and if you say intel no not really anymore

[frigid blade]

Everything dropped 5+% over the weekend

[clear spruce]

my fav game, oh oh oh, formula racer 2012.

[hexed tapir]

Texas instruments has some

[low nacelle]

Mmm 3070, it’s newer

And a little better

[frigid blade]

Doesn’t Texas Instruments make rockets

[clear spruce]

also another good one is Chrome Wars Arena

BUT does anyone here know about renegade racing?

[frigid blade]

Like google chrome vs chromium?

[thorn cove]

damn, well then i guess ill work on other upgrades for my system then. The rest of the other system parts prices seem normal though

[clear spruce]

what

[frigid blade]

Badum tssss

[azure topaz]

YES

[frigid blade]

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

[clear spruce]

@tidal geyser

[tidal geyser]

no

[clear spruce]

HOWWW

[frigid blade]

Sim what’s ur current build?

[tidal geyser]

i used it like 5 years ago

[azure topaz]

i’m pretty sure ti is responsible for how the missile knows where it isn’t

[tidal geyser]

7800X3D and 7900 XTX with 96GB of ram

[frigid blade]

Gyat

Why AMD instead of nvidia?

[tidal geyser]

my 96GB kit cost me less then my 32GB one

[tidal geyser]

since it has more stable drivers?

[frigid blade]

$100?

[tidal geyser]

yes

[azure topaz]

yuh

[frigid blade]

Nice, I wish I got that close

The one on eBay I got for $150, Amazon $200

But also, they were 6800 kits, I probably could’ve gotten 5200 at that price ngl

[onyx lake]

but 3gb more VRAM and almost the same on benchmarks. some people have the 2080 ti beating the 3070

[tidal geyser]

also a 4080 did cost like 1.5X+ more then the XTX

[frigid blade]

For similar performance?

[tidal geyser]

the XTX beats it

[azure topaz]

something like that

[frigid blade]

Damn

[tidal geyser]

well in raster

[azure topaz]

no DLSS/good upscaling or art tho

[frigid blade]

Nvidia is getting dookie then, same with Intel

[peak knot]

unless your overclocking the 2080ti is not on abg beating the 2080ti

[tidal geyser]

i dono upscaling even FG looks good enough for me

[rigid fjord]

@peak knot do you know if someone tried to put qdr/gddr onto ram sticks and tried oc'ing other stuff with them ?

[indigo basin]

java vs bedrock bruh

your actually kidding

[tidal geyser]

i found out in satisfactory after playing a very long time with upscaling on and then once i turned it off way worse performance and it did not really look different

[peak knot]

you cant do that

[odd marsh]

Java better

[agile stag]

i love rendering games in much lower res than my screen i love the weird effect where pixels and other small details phase in and out of existence as i look around <3333

[onyx lake]

Do you mean the 2080ti is on avg not beating the 3070?

[indigo basin]

my server disagrees

[frigid blade]

They should start selling DIY build your own GPU kits

[agile stag]

i feel like a 2080ti could go band for band with a 3070

[inland perch]

i have a rtx 2090

[onyx lake]

hell yeah

[agile stag]

whats the alternative,,,

[inland perch]

it could

[peak knot]

vram modules dont communicate like normal ram modules, and are much more sensitive to signal integrity issues

[agile stag]

it checks out in my head

[indigo basin]

no mods :(

[peak knot]

its why vram modules are so close to gpu cores compared to normal ram

[frigid blade]

New generations so sensitive, smh

[odd marsh]

Java modding scene is just way better I’m sorry, the game also just feels so much more responsive in menus and stuff

[inland perch]

what launcher are you using

[indigo basin]

server client

[peak knot]

i mean ive had my 2080ti match a 3080ti in synthetics but it was drawing 675W while doing so at -5C temps

[inland perch]

jeez

[onyx lake]

Jesus lol

[indigo basin]

oh no i prefer java over bedrock
im jsut shocked at how little ram bedrock eneds

[frigid blade]

Are there stable speeds for most GPUs to overclock to without degrading faster?

[rigid fjord]

ah, is it also due to bandwidth?

[odd marsh]

It’s worth it to me, but I’ve currently got a Java server running geyser so worst of both worlds ig

[indigo basin]

422 mods on my java server
java x bedrock on this heavily modded is just never gonna happen 😭

[peak knot]

no just the fact the cpus ram controller isnt made for gddrx or QDR

[odd marsh]

Yeah I’ve got the bare minimum mods on that server lol, it takes like maybe 1.3GB of ram

[indigo basin]

fairs 😭

[frigid blade]

My mc server tends to lag during cleanup when it reaches the max allocation

It’s really annoying

I could never figure out how to stop that

[indigo basin]

set xmx and xms to the same value

fixed it for me

[frigid blade]

They are

I’ve tried giving it more and less memory

Same thing happens

The only way to have it happen less is to give it more memory so there is more time in between each lag

But then the lag is a bit longer, lol

[full trench]

how much ram do you have allocated?

also send your current flags

[frigid blade]

I’ve tried both 8 and 16GB

[fresh escarp]

are these temps tragic, played some the finals and noticed 🗿

[frigid blade]

One sec, need to get on pc

[full trench]

how many players are you planning on having and how much ram is available to allocate as well?

[frigid blade]

32GB previously were available, like 4-5 people

I have 96GB now but I haven’t tested

It shouldn’t have mattered before since I never ran at 100% usage

[full trench]

i run a server with like ~9 people on at a time max, have you tried zgc?

[frigid blade]

No idea what that is

[fresh escarp]

text more readable and #gaming would suit more for this post in future

[frigid blade]

I just use paper mc

[full trench]

what version of Minecraft?

[frigid blade]

Whatever the newest is

[full trench]

what jvm

[frigid blade]

How do I check that?

[full trench]

java -version

in the terminal if you are on linux

[frigid blade]

Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 23.0.2+7-58)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.0.2+7-58, mixed mode, sharing)```

java -Xmx16384M -Xms16384M -jar server.jar

[odd marsh]

Is this a modded or unmodded server

[full trench]

okay honestly you should read the GitHub page for this

[rigid fjord]

actually #development

[full trench]

paper

[frigid blade]

its paper, i tried paper because i thought it would be less lag than vanilla

[full trench]

look up Minecraft server flags github or something

thats a decent place to start

[odd marsh]

You might be allocating too much memory, sometimes that’s an issue

[frigid blade]

8GB is too much?

Same thing happened with it

[full trench]

for that few yes maybe

[frigid blade]

I dont need it fixed now, I just brought it up because it reminded me

[odd marsh]

Make the max 4096 see how that works

[frigid blade]

Dont have anyone on rn so cant really test

[odd marsh]

What cpu does this run on, and is it on a hard drive

[frigid blade]

13900kf

its an NVMe SSD

[odd marsh]

Ok so no perf issues in that department

And it’s lag for players?

[frigid blade]

Yah, I thought it could be a network issue since i dont actually get that lag

Its only other players, but it happens during garbage collection

[odd marsh]

I’m leaning to this as well

[frigid blade]

I dont think its my network tho, we have pretty low latency and fast speeds

[odd marsh]

Ethernet? How are you hosting the server

[frigid blade]

Yes, its ethernet on my pc

[odd marsh]

How are you exposing this to the world? Port forwarding or some other service?

[frigid blade]

yah port forwarding

Could it be that during garbage collection, it uses more CPU resources and that slows down the networking part?

[odd marsh]

It’s a 13900ks, shouldn’t affect anything

[dusky crest]

So i would happily use the Xbox series controller but i would also be happy to do the funny and og steam controller... Except where does one get that sealed

[odd marsh]

Sorry kf

[frigid blade]

I dont think its my network tho

[odd marsh]

I’d go back down in the ram allocation and go from there

[frigid blade]

ill test it when friends are on later

thanks

[odd marsh]

Yup

[dreamy aspen]

good speed

[frigid blade]

Cant wait till we move to the new home, should get 2Gig speeds up and down

[dreamy aspen]

wow!

[frigid blade]

Yah, its awesome, we ran all the conduit we would ever need for each room

It was perfect for me, I got to plan out the networking for the entire house

[dreamy aspen]

that's amazing i guess

[frigid blade]

Right now we have this weird MoCA stuff set up

Cuz we couldnt run ethernet to the basement

Very janky

I always wanted to try ethernet over powerline tho, it sounds cool

[quasi field]

Crappy internet

Needs to be at least 5gig

[frigid blade]

I hope some day I make enough to afford 5 Gig lol

[latent gull]

What’s janky about moca?

[frigid blade]

The way we have it set up, the coax for the internet comes in throught the basement and splits between multiples rooms in the breaker box area, but we have the mode/router gateway thing upstairs in my room, instead of in the basement

Its set up the opposite way youd think it would be is what i mean by its janky

[quasi field]

You need at least this… (my internet btw I sent this at 2:48)

[frigid blade]

Thats crazy

That was my hotspot speed a few days ago

at the new house, had to download drivers on that, took forever

how is your upload faster than your download i just realized that

[quasi field]

It’s inconsistent af… I blame my schools shitty WiFi… at like 3am it’s fast af

Middle of the night I took this photo of my computer screen

[frigid blade]

dayum

I want that upload

[quasi field]

they don’t use a network switch I don’t think

There’s like no way… the difference being 1000x slower is just wild

[plain cypress]

I have 2Gbps symmetric fibre 😛

[quasi field]

gay

[frigid blade]

@azure topaz @tidal geyser How do I read this to figure out the gear again?

[frigid blade]

We are getting that soon with ATT Fiber

[quasi field]

After 1gig you don’t see much of a difference cause their servers have limits too…

[plain cypress]

2 floors below my access point

[plain cypress]

I have it because I can

[quasi field]

you do when sending files in a work place tho… but for the average person 1gig is fire

[frigid blade]

Oh man, the shit I have figured out for the new house, we have a 15 foot pole outside that was used for antennas by the previous owner

I plan on putting a high power AP up there

[plain cypress]

Your main AP outside the house?

[quasi field]

1gig allows you to download 60gig games in 1 min

100mb being 1hr… big difference

10mb being 10hr

[frigid blade]

Nah, we will have one inside, with the WiFi from the router also in the basement, the outdoor one is just to have internet across the property

[quasi field]

1mb 100hr… my internet

[plain cypress]

Ohhhhh that makes way more sense

[fresh escarp]

while me 😔

[quasi field]

I’d eat 1gig

[frigid blade]

Yah, was cool to do the math, I had to use the free space path loss function to figure out at which height and angle I need to mount and what the signal will be like where

[plain cypress]

I have my old AP sitting in a bin right now
I could put it on my ground floor to get better speeds there but it doesn't seem worth running Ethernet down my stairwell for that

[fresh escarp]

soon going 5gig just gotta send dad paycheck and gonna be aweosme

[frigid blade]

it wasnt something i understood at first, so i had to sit in a call with a buddy that does RF for a living and he explained everything

[plain cypress]

Sounds like it's somewhat rural?

[frigid blade]

Oh no, just a large property

[odd marsh]

You could have like an awesome home alone trap though

[plain cypress]

Ah. How much neighborly signal interference do you have in the yard/outdoor space?

[plain cypress]

🤔

[frigid blade]

I wouldnt say much, the reason for the high power AP is cuz lots of trees and leaves

And also because it needs to reach far enough

when I say high power, I mean high gain antenna

theres a legal limit to the output so you cant just blast it, need to figure out a sweep spot between the angle of the output and height

[plain cypress]

I'm still using wifi 6
6e/7 seems fun but realistically I have no benefit at this time

I'll see what Unifi is offering in 3-4 years

[muted moon]

hehe

i have 10gbps internet, i just dont have 10gbps card in my pc

[tidal geyser]

eh 10Gb NIC aint too much

[muted moon]

i dont really care about getting one

[tidal geyser]

why not go for a lower speed plan then?

[muted moon]

no point in having this fast internet since i basically use my pc once a month

[muted moon]

its actually the cheapest plan

[frigid blade]

You can get a 25GbE NIC for $100

[tidal geyser]

xd

[tidal geyser]

that is sfp28

[frigid blade]

er yah, that

[tidal geyser]

and fiber

well or DAC

[frigid blade]

The issue is I dont have a switch that can do 25Gb

[tidal geyser]

and the price is UHMMM

[frigid blade]

And they cost a lot

[tidal geyser]

yeeaaa

[frigid blade]

10Gb is not so bad tho

[tidal geyser]

i did WIFI for my NAS

[elder quarry]

Learn to use a search engine then

[plain cypress]

Sup

[elder quarry]

Hi

[frigid blade]

i wish i lived in the eu the internet is so cheap

[muted moon]

but taxes are insane

[frigid blade]

$145/month for 2Gig fiber

[muted moon]

i wanted to trade in my actual car for like a bmw m3

[frigid blade]

did he change his name? I couldve sworn i read is a search engine

[muted moon]

90k€ of taxes just because its a sport car

[tidal geyser]

fixed

[plain cypress]

Mods

[tidal geyser]

change his name to that

[elder quarry]

Huh?

[thorn cove]

Bro it’s been an hour 😭

[elder quarry]

Ok?

[tidal geyser]

wait

[thorn cove]

I like using that

[tidal geyser]

wut

if this is some 3rd party client thing stay quiet and delete

[frigid blade]

wdym

[elder quarry]

lol sim you are dumb

Inspect or basic photoshopping skills

[tidal geyser]

o yeah true

i use the app version so forgot about inspect

[frigid blade]

im on app

[tidal geyser]

but that was too quick if its photoshop

[elder quarry]

App has inspect

[frigid blade]

i just used the ms paint editor

[muted moon]

not really

[tidal geyser]

o

[elder quarry]

There’s a setting in settings.json

[tidal geyser]

welp ama go do something else

[frigid blade]

you use the little thing to select the color by click on the screen

[tidal geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381193783296917507/1357280411834646690/xKJhHCu.gif

[elder quarry]

Sleeb

[elder quarry]

The fuck

[tidal geyser]

nau boring

[elder quarry]

Read a book

[plain cypress]

Someone broke out photoshop

[frigid blade]

ms paint

[tidal geyser]

i have 2 i need too read well not need but should, anyways i have even more computers i want to get out over a few days

[plain cypress]

Budget Photoshop

[tidal geyser]

lga 1200 just makes me too sad

[elder quarry]

You want but you can’t, read your book amd forget about that

[tidal geyser]

yeah

i have a i5 10500 pc that runs like ass in games like fortnite

[frigid blade]

nuh uh

[elder quarry]

Not the first time you said that

[tidal geyser]

and not my last

[elder quarry]

Oh no the forklift kids will die

No pc from simulator

[tidal geyser]

i wanted to pair a 2080 with it

now im thinking about putting a 1070

[muted moon]

me waiting to be able to replace my computer for this :)

[elder quarry]

No you don’t

Good luck plaing any games

[tidal geyser]

what??

[muted moon]

i dont even play games lmao

[elder quarry]

Nixe

[tidal geyser]

E not everything about computers is gaming

tbh for anything but gaming MAC is da way

[elder quarry]

Not at all

I hate macos

[tidal geyser]

video editing, CAD, simulations or what?

[steel umbra]

A truthful lie, gaming is life

[tidal geyser]

gefore now

[muted moon]

in the last 15 days i only played less than 3h

[muted moon]

finance

[tidal geyser]

so a 100$ pc would be overkill

[elder quarry]

Bruh. What a waste

[muted moon]

actually no

but actually yes

[tidal geyser]

wut

[muted moon]

some software we use can be intensive

some run on rpi

[tidal geyser]

how intensive

[elder quarry]

I’d rather have a Mac than being forced to use windows

[muted moon]

cpu intensive

[elder quarry]

What software

[elder quarry]

Probably poorly optimised

[muted moon]

actually an internal software from my company idk if i'm allowed to talk about it

[tidal geyser]

i mean what kinda cpu do you think you need

[plain cypress]

And this is why I'm not buying a better gpu because I barely use my PC as is

[elder quarry]

Send me the source code so I can analyze it

[tidal geyser]

i have considerd selling my pc for someting weaker a few times

[muted moon]

m1 is enough since its supposed to be adapted to it

[stray dune]

anyone have a good ram kit for the 9950x3d?

[tawny knoll]

What GPU could i have my buddy upgrade to with a 5600x and a 750w psu

[stray dune]

im getting one bc it's cheaper than the 9900x3d

[tidal geyser]

just normal 6000MT cl30

[tidal geyser]

that is a 6 core cpu when gaming

[tidal geyser]

what will be the use

[elder quarry]

cl30-36 is well enough

[stray dune]

gaming, is it better to go 9900x3d?

[muted moon]

i might just keep my 'gaming' pc but giving it to my gf so she can actually play the sims in good conditions lmao

[ocean axle]

9800x3d probably, 9900x3d no

vs 9950x3d

[tidal geyser]

that is 6 core, 9800X3D is THE best gaming cpu

anyways here is a ram kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DPKWNJSG?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

[stray dune]

good to know, thank you

[ocean axle]

notable: its a 6c+6c, only half of which is useful while gaming

[tidal geyser]

aka why i said its a 6 core cpu when gaming

[ocean axle]

it is a 12c, thats not a lie, but only half (the half w/ vcache) is useful for gaming

[tawny knoll]

9950x3d/9800x3d right? Since it's essentially the same thing?

[elder quarry]

What gpu will you get

[tawny knoll]

Or is there something with the CPU itself that makes it somehow worse than the 9800x3d

[ocean axle]

9950x3d is a 9800x3d+9700x, 9900x3d is 9600x3d+9600x

[tidal geyser]

yes but the 9950X3D is possible to have issues for games due to the whole being like having 2 cpus in the same cpu

[stray dune]

i have a 7900xt

[muted moon]

only game i play

[tawny knoll]

Ok checks out

[elder quarry]

Nice

[tidal geyser]

for mostly gaming 9800X3D all the way

[tawny knoll]

Yeah, core parking issues that could be solved with bios changes

[tidal geyser]

for doing more then gaming 9950X3D

[muted moon]

iphone 16 pro just for chess lmao

[ocean axle]

9950x3d is potentially theoretically able to be at least equal if not better, but that requires the scheduler to know what to do

[tidal geyser]

not truly solved

[stray dune]

what do you think if im gaming + streaming?

[tawny knoll]

Good to know that they're just the same thing

[elder quarry]

9600x3d was a new one for me

[tawny knoll]

Majorly improved

[tidal geyser]

9800X3D, streaming is gpu encode

[stray dune]

okok

[tidal geyser]

not solved

[tawny knoll]

Yeah

[ocean axle]

it doesnt exist (yet), its just for explanation purposes

[tawny knoll]

Yeah

[ocean axle]

i used 7600x3d+7600x for the 7900x3d before the 7600x3d was announced

[elder quarry]

Yeah, I got that, might’ve missed some best buy special. You never know

[ocean axle]

usually they are microcenter specials

[elder quarry]

Whatever

[jaunty cairn]

Whats a good replacement for a R5 4600g?

I still want AM4

[elder quarry]

5700x3d

[jaunty cairn]

under $250

[tidal geyser]

5700X

[tidal geyser]

tbh costs enough to where going am5 is more worth it

[elder quarry]

NOT 5700

[tidal geyser]

non x

[elder quarry]

5700x

[tidal geyser]

5700non x is ass while the 5700X is good

just make sure to update the bios

[elder quarry]

5700G w/o the iGPU

Which sucks

[tawny knoll]

So what GPU should i upgrade to with a 5600x

[tidal geyser]

5090

[tawny knoll]

true!

[elder quarry]

Rtx 6000 pro

[tawny knoll]

titan XP?

[tidal geyser]

tbh real thing would be something with good drivers like a rx 9070 xt

[tawny knoll]

I was tryna go with a 4070 super but now that they're 1k now everywhere thats not gonna happen

9070xt seems good

[tidal geyser]

and you get good latest drivers

its just sad nvidia keeps claiming to fix it

[tawny knoll]

currently running a 1050 on modern nvidia drivers and its good as long as you dont touch ANYTHING

Settings, ports, or anything

[frigid blade]

oh

6800 isnt stable at all, lol

[tawny knoll]

New gamers nexus video showed me why it didnt affect me at all (1050 is slow)

[frigid blade]

pc doesnt crash but the games do @tidal geyser

[tidal geyser]

i dono skill issue

i have no clue about intel

[bronze jay]

How is this as a temporary solution until I can get a real DAC and Amp? I'm using the port in my monitor but it's not loud enough https://a.co/d/1u4eznw

[stray dune]

anyone have any motherboard reccs for a 9800x3d?

[austere crypt]

😆 🤣

[bronze jay]

"tarriffs are the most beautiful word in the English language, even more beautiful than love"

I mean it makes sense, politicians value power more than love, so of course it's more beautiful to him

[frigid blade]

Nvm it’s because that high of a speed with this much memory crashes

Everyone is saying to go lower

I’ll go down by 200MT increments

[odd marsh]

Not even the penguins

[bronze jay]

The penguins of Madagascar have been exploiting us for too long and we shouldn't have to subsidize them

We will use the external revenue service to make them subsidize us instead

[austere crypt]

Poor penguins 😞

Taking advantage of the US

[bronze jay]

Kowalski, stock analysis

[elder quarry]

Yeah how they calculate stuff is crazy

[bronze jay]

Trade deficit divided by 2 and written as a percent or something

[harsh mango]

what’s the difference between MSI Kombustor’s regular benchmark and that benchmark’s “burn in mode”. what is burn in mode

[frigid blade]

wtf i didnt know war thunder used so much of the GPU

[harsh mango]

of course it does? it’s a game w decent graphics

[frigid blade]

ive never seen that though

[harsh mango]

are you overheating

[frigid blade]

50C

[harsh mango]

cause you usually want your gpu to be running high and stable

[harsh mango]

that’s fine bro no issues

[tidal geyser]

set a fps cap

[harsh mango]

what card do you have

[frigid blade]

4090

Thats why im confused on how it uses all of it

[harsh mango]

oh jeez

[elder quarry]

My coil whine is loudd

[tidal geyser]

if its doing 500 fps NO SHIT will it be using 100% of the gpu

[austere crypt]

You need to cap the fps i guess

[elder quarry]

Well not really but eh

[true stirrup]

Just use regular Furmark if you really want a power virus of a benchmark

[frigid blade]

its running 180 ish

[harsh mango]

i thought you had some 1070 ti or something lol

[tidal geyser]

with RT max?

[frigid blade]

yes

[tidal geyser]

and you are wondering why its using 100% of the gpu

[harsh mango]

yea unless like the other guy said your coil whine is super loud or it’s overheating or smth i don’t see why 100% is an issue

[tidal geyser]

coil whine is power use

[frigid blade]

the game doesnt even look that good on max settings tho, how does it use 100%

[amber estuary]

hey guys anyboy got a 1080ti here, i wanna how far the power consumption goes

[harsh mango]

yea i overclocked i’m testing stability and temps without different fan curves

[tidal geyser]

so lower it

[real quiver]

my xtx sounds like its screaming in agony it annoys me

[tidal geyser]

not good

[true stirrup]

Just run 3DMark TimeSpy

[tidal geyser]

a 4060 beats it and uses way way way less power

[harsh mango]

some whine louder than others. i personally don’t have an issue with it at 100% with my 5080

[elder quarry]

Same

[amber estuary]

yea i saw crazy numbers like 320w just wanna make sure

[amber estuary]

yea but def not price

[harsh mango]

i have i passed it. it loops 20 times and stops i want something i can just put there

[gleaming rose]

vibe coding is a stupid concept and is synonymous with being a talentless moron

[frigid blade]

oh, no its not even RT

wtf

[tidal geyser]

welp tis just warthunder being warthunder

[harsh mango]

damn i’m surprised war thunder so demanding

[elder quarry]

What

[elder quarry]

No Linux support for rays );

[wheat field]

Is that Call of Duty ?

Which call of duty is that?

[tidal geyser]

O NO

[wheat field]

What

[harsh mango]

i still don’t understand why people don’t want the gpu running high? unless you have loud whines

[harsh mango]

war thunder

[gleaming rose]

look it ip

[wheat field]

Call of Duty: War thunder

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/wt-war-thunder-bt5-bt7-bouncy-gif-9890784626434615977

[harsh mango]

yea

[wheat field]

???? Never heard of it

[frigid blade]

oh it does look better with RT on

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/tank-tanks-war-thunder-tank-dancing-dancing-tank-gif-17805999805342575336

[wheat field]

Oh, silly me. It's battlefield!

[elder quarry]

What ip?!?

[harsh mango]

ofc it does bro but you’re gonna take a huge fps hit

[gleaming rose]

up

[wheat field]

Look it ip

[steel umbra]

it’s fortnite mod

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/war-thunder-skill-issue-gif-26627033

[frigid blade]

its still running 190 FPS

[wheat field]

I play Fortnite Roblox!

[frigid blade]

I dont understand warthunder

[harsh mango]

you saw 0 impacts on performance turning on ray tracing?

[frigid blade]

yah...

[harsh mango]

that’s crazy 4090 is like that

[tidal geyser]

warthunder yay

[true stirrup]

You really don't need that much testing for GPU overclocking
If something is not going right you will notice it really fast

[elder quarry]

God no that sucks

[harsh mango]

the thing is my temperatures are very slowly going up

[frigid blade]

actually maybe 10 FPS hit, it moves around a lot idk where to set FPS cap

[harsh mango]

5080 under stress test is around 70C with my fan curve

thay should be fine right? i can just adjust the curve to make it run cooler

[frigid blade]

Mine is water cooled so it always sits at 50C

[harsh mango]

but i don’t want it to be too loud in normal circumstances

[harsh mango]

yea i don’t got a water cooled gpu bro

[frigid blade]

i didnt know it was until i got it

[harsh mango]

50 is rly nice

[frigid blade]

yah, my 3070Ti would run at 86C lol

At IDLE

[harsh mango]

i overclocked it like crazy i hit really good silicone lottery w this 5080

so just testing temps and fan curves rn

[frigid blade]

I need to learn how to minmax settings

[harsh mango]

it seems to not go over the max 72 using the fur donut thing i should be fine?

[true stirrup]

You will reach a point when it stops

[harsh mango]

smth wrong w it then what

[elder quarry]

Repast

[harsh mango]

yea i can change the point by changing the fan curve

a little over 70 is ok?

[true stirrup]

More than fine

[elder quarry]

95 C is when we’re talking about not good

[harsh mango]

for a gpu? really?

i thought only cpu thermals hit 95C

[true stirrup]

Unless it's a 5700xt

[harsh mango]

mine is +400MHz and +2000MHZ memory clock 5080

[true stirrup]

Go for the TimeSpy leaderboard

[harsh mango]

its air cooled i dont think i can compete lol

[true stirrup]

Ez top 100 probably

[harsh mango]

seriously?

i did undervolt it a bit so it doesnt get too loud though

[true stirrup]

On the 1 score per user leaderboard

On the score leaderboard no way lol

[harsh mango]

whats the difference?

i made this for the gpu

[true stirrup]

The leaderboard is 1 score per user
And the score explorer leaderboard is unlimited scores per user

[harsh mango]

stress test it sits around 71C

[harsh mango]

so if i already did a benchmark w timespy i cant do it again?

like that score wont count?

[true stirrup]

You can, your highest score counts

[livid mason]

Uhhh thats not a 100hz monitor its a 60..

[harsh mango]

yall got the same pfp border lol

[harsh mango]

how will i be able to make top 100 if its highest score counts

[elder quarry]

What opercsys

[true stirrup]

Wdym? The highest score you reach with your GPU will be the one competing on the leaderboard

[livid mason]

Linux

[elder quarry]

What DE

[livid mason]

Guess its letting me push my monitor 🤷

Arch

[harsh mango]

right, but how will that score compete with the thousands of water cooled 5080s

[elder quarry]

DE…

[livid mason]

Oh

[harsh mango]

which page is this on 3dmark

[true stirrup]

With the 5080 available no way there are anywhere close to that amount lol

[livid mason]

My bad, plasma

[harsh mango]

oh really

[true stirrup]

RESULTS

[harsh mango]

damn thats intruiging ill give it a try

maybe i can crank the OC up even more

[elder quarry]

Neat

[true stirrup]

What's your current highest GPU score on TimeSpy?

[elder quarry]

Run xrandr

[harsh mango]

timespy or timespy extreme

[livid mason]

Not again 💔

[harsh mango]

i havent tried regular\

[elder quarry]

Sad

[elder quarry]

Are you on Xorg or wayland

[livid mason]

Uhhhh

[true stirrup]

Ah
Then how much is the extreme?

[livid mason]

Those are window managers right?

[harsh mango]

this is honestly not even that good no?

[elder quarry]

Compositors

[livid mason]

Ah

Idk 🤷

[harsh mango]

i wait thats steel nomad

[elder quarry]

Better than avg

[harsh mango]

i dont think i even did time spy yet

[harsh mango]

hes saying i can make top100

[true stirrup]

Yeah I guess no top 100 then

[harsh mango]

yea its only top 20%

[true stirrup]

You are quite below that

[harsh mango]

yea definitely not lol i undervolted it too

[true stirrup]

Like the top 100 5080 had average temps of 68°C which you can do so I don't think it's a temps issue

[harsh mango]

i definitely can get higher if i turn off the undervolt, keep pushing the clock (cause i havent really tried i crashed at +500 and brought it down to +400 and undervolted it), and max my fans

[warped plover]

Im not entirely sure what resize bar is, I jus know it allows ur CPU to access the entire GPU memory at once, would you guys recommend enabling this? Im doing heavy workloads like streaming and gaming, editing, multi streaming etc

[odd marsh]

Yes enable it

[harsh mango]

where do you even see this in my page i dont see other people's temps

[warped plover]

Would it have any negative side effects? Im seeing that it can cause performance drops in some games, I would prefer consistent performance across games than some being bad and some being good

[true stirrup]

You just click on the square where the user ranking is

And it takes you to the runs page

[odd marsh]

I’ve never heard of it causing a performance drop

[harsh mango]

on the top 100 all of these people have above 3300 core clock i only have 3105 (+400MHz) and crashed when i selected +500MHz

that means im not that lucky then i guess?

[true stirrup]

Well you do have an undervolt
Also did you max out the power limit?

[harsh mango]

yea i did

ill test out how high i can hit when i have more time when finals are over

but for now im pretty happy with the results for sure

[true stirrup]

Yeah if it runs fine in games then it's great
Going for leaderboards is a niche thing lol

[frigid blade]

ok ram is stable at 6600

6800 games poop themselves

[true stirrup]

I lost my 6800MT/s cl38 profile today 😢

I forgot to save it and when I caused a ram leak today I blue screened then failed to post and my bios reset

[mellow cairn]

It can ... But it doesn't matter. Enabled is better.

[odd marsh]

Ok good to know, neat

[glad fog]

has anyone had an issue in Vintage Story where the game just runs like shit

get high fps but it constantly drops to below 60 from like 200 fps

[random gyro]

gah damn

[elder quarry]

What’s up

[daring wadi]

So running OCCT on my 5800x and even with my Deepcool LS720 360mm temps are at 85-87.5c and cpu clock speed at 4.2 ish mhz. Is that normal or should I consider getting a new cooler (pumps are set to run at 100% as said by deepcool support and case/cpu fans are on a curve)

[graceful meadow]

Why do my nvidia drivers instanly reinstall after using ddu? 💀

[hollow creek]

try pbo first maybe

[clear canyon]

distant horizons with shaders is always so pretty

[daring wadi]

mainly more interested in the temps being okay before messing with PBO and Auto OC

[hollow creek]

pbo settings > curve optimizer > manual > try -10 and go until its unstable (try not going to -30)

applying offset to your voltage curve reduces temps

well not go until its unstable, go lower than -10 when your cpu can sustain clock speed

and then repeat

[hollow creek]

in case if you were wondering if its normal:

is it throttling?
is your boost clocked lower than it should be?
are you comfortable with that temps?

[daring wadi]

Normal gaming and not stress testing gets around 72-75c with 4.8 boost ish

[hollow creek]

is that fine to you? if it is, then no problem, occt is just that one benchmark that pushes your cpu the crap out

tldr worst case scenario

no game would ever push your cpu that hard