tech-chat-1

[sand epoch]

yeah 1. you've done a stupid decision of not choosing amd over intel if you're just gaming
2. unless you're using a 200$ cooler , your cpu will explode very soon

[wheat aspen]

now it’ll turn on but after like a minute it’ll completely freeze and it won’t do anything unless I shut it down and turn it back on

[swift moss]

Intel is fine for gaming

[sand epoch]

amd is better , more fps

[cedar hollow]

textbook silicon degradation, intel style

[wheat aspen]

I’m using a lian li water cooler

[ripe sable]

Should I change my cpu for gaming I currently have a r9 7900 and playing on 1080p 240hz

[sleek ibex]

[cedar hollow]

your cpu may well have already cooked itself

[sand epoch]

and more compatibility

[wheat aspen]

how can I fix it?

[sand epoch]

amd cares , intel doesn't

[swift moss]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-staring-meme-kurt-angle-staring-gigatnos-gif-1532715423575739716

[cedar hollow]

you can't

[wheat aspen]

really?

[cedar hollow]

it's like trying to uncook burnt food

[sand epoch]

intel changes their socket every fucking 3 generations

[swift moss]

Bro whatttt is they on about 😭😭

[wheat aspen]

how can I check if it’s cooked?

[swift moss]

Amd changes their socket every two 😭😭😭

[cedar hollow]

AMD is still releasing CPUs for AM4 which is insane

in 2025

[wheat aspen]

is there a way to check if it’s cooked or not?

[swift moss]

Still the 5th generation though, no?

[cedar hollow]

buy another 13900K and see if it works better

[swift moss]

Or a 9th gen am4? Which is what op is stating

[cedar hollow]

there are new zen 3 SKUs being launched for AM4 in 2025

[wheat aspen]

I’m not doing that how can I check in mine

[cedar hollow]

i don't know if you can lol

[swift moss]

650 vs 550 usd

[sand epoch]

intel*. comet lake supported 10th and 11th gen while am5 which came out in 2022 is going to support till 2027

[swift moss]

Doesn't compare

[wheat aspen]

oh should I take it into geek squad?

[swift moss]

Can we see a comparison of a 5070 to a 5080

[sleek ibex]

AM4 should just die peacefully in hospice at this point

[cedar hollow]

geek squad is useless just rma ur cpu or something

[swift moss]

Well yeah because amd doesn't drop every year

[sand epoch]

no? intel is 610$ here and amd is 650$

[wheat aspen]

what should I do then?

[swift moss]

Here, I'm judging off RRP, I couldn't care less what it costs in your country

[cedar hollow]

rma ur cpu

[wheat aspen]

what does that mean?

[sand epoch]

🤣🤣

[cedar hollow]

warranty it

[wheat aspen]

oh do I call them?

[cedar hollow]

Sure

[swift moss]

Correction, am5 will support 7th and 9th

[wheat aspen]

ok thanks

[sand epoch]

every 2 years

1-2 years

[swift moss]

Intel supports it for less time, you are arguing generations

Intel and AMD both have 2 generations per socket now

[sand epoch]

also for laptops , the igpu for intel is insanely trash

[swift moss]

Intel recently made it 3 years

[sleek ibex]

[cedar hollow]

AM4 released september 2016 and has gotten new CPU generations for 5 years

[swift moss]

We aren't talking about that buddy

[swift moss]

It's gotten 2 new generations, just over an extended period of time

At least in the consumer field

[cedar hollow]

3 and a half generations more like

[sand epoch]

ok?

[cedar hollow]

Zen, Zen+, Zen 2 and Zen 3

[sleek ibex]

AyyMD fanboys are like how Intel fanboys were back in the late 00s and early 2010s

[plain cypress]

meteor lake desktop ES chips were leaked recently

[sand epoch]

what do you use?

[plain cypress]

MO-RA

[sand epoch]

the pipebomb i9 14900k?

[plain cypress]

he uses MO-RA

[cedar hollow]

core ultra 9 295k

apple silicon mogs both amd and intel

[swift moss]

3 sorry

[cedar hollow]

where my M4 ultra homies at

[sand epoch]

not for gaming but ok

[swift moss]

I prefer amd but it isn't the "obvious choice"

[cedar hollow]

gaming is for losers

[sleek ibex]

[cedar hollow]

do REAL work with your machines

[sand epoch]

0/10 ragebait , you got me

[cedar hollow]

get PAID with your machines

[swift moss]

Agreed

[plain cypress]

now you need a VIA chip

[swift moss]

Unless it's crypto mining

[sand epoch]

i suppose people who play tournaments get paid in cookies and milk?

[plain cypress]

AI shovelware slop?

[swift moss]

Sorta like that

[cedar hollow]

hell yeah

[swift moss]

There's only 1 winner whereas everyone gets paid in a company

[plain cypress]

id rather kill myself

[cedar hollow]

yeah they get paid in rubles

[cedar hollow]

well it's never good to take the easy way out

[sand epoch]

cs 24 prize pool was 1.2m dollars

[plain cypress]

tie myself to the railroad tracks

[cedar hollow]

cs? is that the gambling game disguised as an fps

[sand epoch]

no. if you use it for gambling it's a you problem. i use it to play normally like 80% of the community does.

[cedar hollow]

80% of the "community" uses it as money laundering

ask me how i know

[sand epoch]

huh 80 , that's a strong number

[cedar hollow]

i have thousands of dollars in cs2 skins i've seen everything there is to see in that game

[swift moss]

Frfr

[sand epoch]

instead of giving that info to me , you should hand it over to steam and do the right thing.

[cedar hollow]

steam doesn't do jack shit lmao

[swift moss]

In addition the game itself is shit and full of hackers

Valve pushes a anti cheat update every 3 years

[cedar hollow]

valve is an incompetent ass company who will give your steam account to anyone who knows your phone number

[swift moss]

It's a good company

[sand epoch]

I disagree , steam has returned my hacked acc

and they take hacked accs very seriously

got mine back in 4hrs , epic games didn't even return me anything

[sleek ibex]

That and a Cyrix would be nice

[cedar hollow]

I had a friend's account that was stolen because some steam support agent got a call from their phone number requesting an account recovery

[bleak ledge]

They ruined CS by releasing CS2 and making it just an incremental update to CS:GO

[cedar hollow]

CS2 is objectively a good game it's just a lot of gambling

[sand epoch]

also cs isn't the only game where you can use it to make money? you can do content creations or play tournaments for other games like fortnite , call of duty , minecraft .etc?

[cedar hollow]

not that im complaining, CS2 gambling has made me thousands

[sand epoch]

idk how playing games is for "losers". if you have such a narrow mindset, you're an idiot + loser.

[cedar hollow]

that was the most obvious ragebait ever, and you even called out my ragebait just to fall for the ragebait 5 mins later

[sand epoch]

ok.

[swift moss]

Gaming is for people with free time, I reckon you should be grinding in your free time imo

[swift moss]

[sleek ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/thriller-michael-jackson-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-5577709

[bleak ledge]

I triggered tf out of my friend by saying I outgrew gaming, lol.

[cedar hollow]

yooo post malone

[sand epoch]

funny you can do the same to linux nerds by saying windows better

[bleak ledge]

Indeed

Or by calling Android users poor

[worldly abyss]

Ironically enough it's true if you strip it

[south arrow]

[sand epoch]

people with some 2017 xiaomi will be arguing whether s25 ultra is better than iphone 16 pro max

[bleak ledge]

[sand epoch]

who have never even experienced any flagship phones

[bleak ledge]

They're all underwhelming

[swift moss]

Vivo x200 moment

[bleak ledge]

A phone is a phone

[swift moss]

I like pixels

The operating system is amazing and the support is cleab

[bleak ledge]

They're nice, but the SoC is a piece of crap

[swift moss]

I only buy a phone like every 6 or 7 years so

[cedar hollow]

all i need is imessage & facetime

[swift moss]

And I don't buy it for the specs

I use a z flip 1 right now until new year at least

[sleek ibex]

I would be perfectly fine with a flip phone..... Like the ones that do the bare minimum and that are from the mid 2000s

[cedar hollow]

those foldable phones that develop creases over time down the middle of the screen look so bad

how do people daily those without getting annoyed

[bleak ledge]

There's one Chinese flagship that seems to have more or less addressed that

Forgot which one

They're nice for handheld console emulation

[swift moss]

I daily one

No crease yet

[cedar hollow]

how old is it?

[swift moss]

I have tore a bit of the screen with my fingernail tho

[swift moss]

Umm it's a z flip 1 but I got it replaced in 2023

For free

[swift moss]

Nearly dropped it an grabbed it with my fingernail

[cedar hollow]

hmm 2023 is not bad if the crease isn't there

[bleak ledge]

My biggest issue with the Flip is that they compromise on battery capacity and cooling just to get the folding screen

[swift moss]

It only reflects sunlight weirdly cuz it is indeed bendied

[bleak ledge]

Those textures are aging like milk

Maybe I've got the settings way down

[dapper light]

The plastic protector is supposed to be periodically replaced

Most people who can't handle it would just have them replaced

Leaving people with little fucks to give running the hyper creased folds

[bronze jay]

Can somebody please verify this

[cinder raptor]

Those are indeed processors you could run with a 3050

[bronze jay]

Thank you

I don't pay attention to the processor market for some reason

[cinder raptor]

I mean those are both old processors at this point. But there are plenty of processors you could use

[umbral trail]

When do you guys think the 9070s will return to homeostasis?

[bronze jay]

I'm trying to recommend the minimum system that wouldn't make me upset to my sister's friend

I have a 4070 now but if I had to run my 2060 again it wouldn't kill me

[upper abyss]

someone should recommend me a peak indie game 🙏

[bronze jay]

Diablo 4

Whichever one has all of the micro transactions

[upper abyss]

indie 😭

wat

[bronze jay]

I wish I could replace my computer case without the tempered glass panel that's probably the most expensive part

I just want to swap out the scratched parts

[cinder raptor]

West of loathing

[upper abyss]

okay that actually looks somewhat entertaining

[cinder raptor]

Its great

[bronze jay]

I murdered it. It hurts my soul to look at

[upper abyss]

im thinking about replaying disco elysium soon but im not sure that its too soon (a year or so i think)

[bronze jay]

I don't even understand what happened

It just did that

Holy shit they sell replacement parts

[sinful cobalt]

miside frfr

[upper abyss]

played ts already, was pretty nice

[fierce nimbus]

Does anyone know if AMD had used GDDR7 for the 9070 XT it would have outperformed the 5070 Ti?

[sinful cobalt]

we literally do not know since theres no gddr7 prototype or anything

plus gddr7 wouldve been too expensive to slap onto a $600 msrp card

[fierce nimbus]

i know about the money part, just curiosity

so gddr7 is a deal only with nvidia?

[sinful cobalt]

since the 2 cards are so close short answer yes it wouldve

[sinful cobalt]

for now yes

[fierce nimbus]

thx for the answer

[cedar hollow]

miside is goty 2025

[thorny saddle]

prob not

[mellow shadow]

Am I a qualified programmer now?

[solid crown]

well the 3050 is slower than the 2060

[bronze jay]

Really? Huh.

[solid crown]

yeah I agree, nvidia basically is just power scaling with 50 series, either the architecture was already out of gas and they required gddr7 or it was just pointless other than bandwidth for ai and stuff

[bronze jay]

Blajat or something

[solid crown]

yeah the 2060 is 16% faster

[cedar hollow]

gddr7 is good for AI

[mellow shadow]

[bronze jay]

Thank you. WTF

I'm so glad you caught that

[dapper light]

Not when 5080 and below got VRAM gimped

[solid crown]

and if you do go with the 3050 route, dont get the 6gb version, get the 8gb version. 6gb is even slower, the 2060 is 56% faster than the 6gb one lol

[mellow shadow]

Higher bandwidth faster ai slop creation or something ig

[cedar hollow]

tbf 5080 is on par with 4090 in terms of memory bandwidth which is impressive if you consider its 256bus

but yeah the sizes arent impressive

[dapper light]

Which is pointless if it can't fit shit

[sinful cobalt]

the 5080 got robbed of vram

the 5070 is crying for vram

the 5060 is down 20 ft under the ground due to the lack of vram

[solid crown]

check out techpowerup for gpu comparisons

[bronze jay]

I have a weird mix of being content with what I have and wanting more

[cedar hollow]

5060 Ti 16GB is the last 50 series card i'll ever need

[bronze jay]

I didn't hate the 2060 I just wanted a better card

And I'm still chilling with my 3200mhz ram

[solid crown]

well hey at least we're getting a 5080 24gb apparently

[cedar hollow]

GDDR7 and a highly efficient package is gonna be super nice

[sinful cobalt]

which again might be an error from msi pt2

[solid crown]

lol

[cedar hollow]

i mean it wasnt really a secret

the 5090 mobile is legit just a desktop 5080 with 24gb vram

[bronze jay]

I did the worst fucking thing

[cedar hollow]

it was only gonna be a matter of time before plans for a 24gb 5080 came out

[bronze jay]

So I got a 4070 right, solid card. Then 3 months later I'm fed up with windows and switch to Linux. Can you imagine worse timing?

[solid crown]

linux user with nvidia card nice

[cedar hollow]

first time?

[solid crown]

bro got the worst of both worlds

[bronze jay]

I'm getting a payout from my car insurance soon

I'll replace the 4070 with an AMD equivalent and then sell it for exactly the price I got it for

[solid crown]

what about repairing your car that seems important too

[bronze jay]

I already have one.

I tried to help someone less fortunate get a car. It's a long and sad story I don't want to get into.

[solid crown]

wtf

[thorny saddle]

9070 XT is good

[solid crown]

9070xt is overpriced rn

[thorny saddle]

no its not

[solid crown]

gpu market is fucked, itll cost $900-1000

[bronze jay]

Isn't 7800xt the amd equivalent

[thorny saddle]

no it wont

[solid crown]

7800xt has fsr 3 though 😦

[bronze jay]

So

[solid crown]

I mean my microcenter only has $700 9070s

so like a xt model for $200 more sounds about right

[thorny saddle]

no they don't

Sorry

[solid crown]

wtf also thats still overpriced

[bronze jay]

It was 4 more gigabytes of vram and also will work properly without stressing me out

[thorny saddle]

there was $659 XT today

[solid crown]

my microcenter doesnt have any stock

[thorny saddle]

Mine did today

Expecting like 12 tomorrow

[solid crown]

lucky

[bronze jay]

I suppose I can put in an extra 100

I wanted more frames in RTX anyway

But I still refuse to scalp the card. I'm letting it go for the price I got it for even though it would be nice to profit

[solid crown]

including ebay tax right

unless youre selling local

[thorny saddle]

Just sell it on HWS

[bronze jay]

I'll pay the eBay tax. Scalping is scalping.

[solid crown]

man why cant my microcenter get stock

[solid crown]

nah bruh dont someone will just resell it

maximize your earnings, sold my 4090 for 2.6K i have no regrets

[bronze jay]

That's their moral downfall. My conscience will be clear.

[solid crown]

pretty sure my microcenter hasnt gotten a refresh of stock since the 9070xt launch

[bronze jay]

I'm very lucky to be in a privileged position where I don't have to resort to that

[solid crown]

ah ok if you can afford it sure but it doesnt really sound like you can

considering you have to wait on an insurance payout to afford it

[bronze jay]

My principles are more important to me

[solid crown]

how much would you sell the 4070 for

[bronze jay]

550

[solid crown]

shit id buy it and resell it 💀

[bronze jay]

You can if you want

[cedar hollow]

4070s wont rlly sell for more than $600 in this market

[bronze jay]

I'll send you the listing I don't care. That's your problem not mine

[solid crown]

yeah that price isnt that low

[cedar hollow]

prices are going lower and lower everyday

[solid crown]

I thought you were gonna sell it for $300 or something

[bronze jay]

It would be nice to get a buyer quickly. Are you actually interested?

[bronze jay]

It didn't cost me 300

[solid crown]

not for anything above $300 which you would be dumb to sell for lol

[cedar hollow]

i'd buy a 4070 for max $400

[solid crown]

which model is it

[bronze jay]

Hang on

https://www.newegg.com/msi-rtx-4070-ventus-3x-12g-oc-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-12gb-gddr6x/p/N82E16814137789?item=N82E16814137789&utm_source=transactional&utm_medium=email&cm_mmc=TEMC-Carrier-Transit-Early-_-N82E16814137789-_-101097&utm_campaign=TEMC-Carrier-Transit-Early-_-N82E16814137789-_-101097 @solid crown

[cedar hollow]

oh man its a ventus

[solid crown]

thats not a bad card

id pay like 350 max though personally

[tribal nest]

nuclear bomb https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2ZDFxg

[cedar hollow]

it's not a bad card but its not $550 💀

[solid crown]

cause im shitty like that

[tribal nest]

hopefully i’ll be able to get some money back once i start renting this build out to people

[solid crown]

I did get a zotac 2x for $300 like a couple months ago when the market wasnt absurd

[cedar hollow]

im pretty much trying to build this exact pc but with a 9950X3D instead

[solid crown]

youll never recover the cost bud

[tribal nest]

ehh

[solid crown]

unless you happen to live in a datacenter

[bronze jay]

You are all filthy liars

[solid crown]

wdym

[tribal nest]

unless you really need the extra cache you wouldn’t really need a 9950x3D over the 9950x

[bronze jay]

It's going for 200 more than I'm selling for. I can get a buyer easy.

[cedar hollow]

its not going for 200 more than you're listing for

those are just listings, not sold listings

[solid crown]

well yeah I never said you couldnt sell it for under that

I was saying personally 550 was too high for me to buy and flip

[bronze jay]

Well yeah it is

That's a terrible price for flipping

If you want I can reach out to you when I'm ready to sell it. Maybe the market will change

[cedar hollow]

if you list it on ebay today you might sell it for 550

[solid crown]

sure thing

[bronze jay]

Bet

[cedar hollow]

But then you need to factor in shipping costs, plus ebay fee which is 15%

[solid crown]

if it makes you feel better I dont flip it flip it, I build pcs for fun and a bit of profit so I try to get deals on parts

[bronze jay]

I'll absorb it. It's my fault for buying the wrong card

[cedar hollow]

thats why i do paypal G&S bc the fee is like 2.99%

[solid crown]

plus ebay doesnt include insurance cost in that 13.25% fee

[bronze jay]

That makes me feel a lot better about selling it to you

[solid crown]

you could use jawa though 13.25% with insurance included

[bronze jay]

Better than going to some crypto miner

[cedar hollow]

i wonder how dual 5090s would do on salad

gpu crypto mining is dead

[bronze jay]

If it gets put in a new system right away that would make me so happy

[solid crown]

brute force crypto mining 💀

take the loss now cause crypto will go to the moon!!!!

[cedar hollow]

electricity bill gonna be more than the crypto itself

[solid crown]

crypto will 100x ez no pain no gain

[bronze jay]

If it breaks after you buy it reach out and we can use the warranty that came with the card

[solid crown]

also extension cord in neighbors outlet strat

[solid crown]

still has a warranty too damn

[cedar hollow]

inb4 it rains and shorts out my pc

[bronze jay]

It better

I just got it

[solid crown]

lol

you cooould just go back to windows

[bronze jay]

Absolutely not

[plain cypress]

Should we be so lucky

[cedar hollow]

hey thats mean

my chinese psu wouldn't like that

[plain cypress]

No, but I would

[thorny saddle]

lol

navy why you hating so hard

[cedar hollow]

he doesn't like superflower

[bronze jay]

How do I advertise that I'll follow through with the warranty without someone seeing the listing and going oh sweet, free warranty scam

[cedar hollow]

you don't need to be warranty middleman for most modern gpus

most manufacturers just honor warranty based on manufacture date without receipt

and in other cases you can just send the receipt to the buyer

[bronze jay]

I'm the one who bought it originally, I have a responsibility to be there in case there are complications

[solid crown]

do note you cant warranty shipping damage

I thought gpu warranties were transferable though

[cedar hollow]

your responsibility ends once the customer gets a working GPU in their hands

if it breaks on them while they're using it, they need to warranty it

[bronze jay]

I hold myself to a higher standard than that

[cedar hollow]

Okay but you're literally burning money by doing that...

[bronze jay]

I don't care

I'm not giving a refund, I'm just going to get the warranty replacement sent to them, if that happens

I'm not a corporation I can't afford that shit

[thorny saddle]

i want a refund

[cedar hollow]

you're gonna pay shipping for them to ship the card to you, you're gonna ship the card to the manufacturer, then you get a replacement and you have to ship it back to the customer

[bronze jay]

That's stupid. I can just have them ship it. If they don't, they don't get the replacement and it's not my problem

[cedar hollow]

Or... you can just give them the receipt and let them do the warranty process themself...

[bronze jay]

Will that really work?

[cedar hollow]

If I was a customer, I think i'd actually prefer that lol

[bronze jay]

That's a much better idea

[cedar hollow]

that's what I was trying to say from the beginning

[bronze jay]

I just didn't understand

Thank you, I'll do that

Worst case scenario they can contact me if Newegg wants to be a bitch about it

[cursive pendant]

Do I upgrade from a GTX 1660 Ti to a 3060, 3060 Ti or a 4060?

[solid crown]

if you dont use FG go with the 3060ti

otherwise 4060

if youre playing at 1440p you need to upgrade to a better gpu though

[cursive pendant]

is frame generation worth it? im playing 1080p. I could get a 3060 ti for $200 on marketplace, or a 4060 for just $285 new. what should i pick?

[solid crown]

3060ti for sure imo $200 is a good price

[west harbor]

hello everyone, was wondering if upgrading from a r7 5700x to a ryzen 7 5800x3d , currently looking for most frames possible at 1440p competitive games and story games at 100fps on high-ish settings. running a rtx 3080 atm

[empty quartz]

:3’ing rn

[solid crown]

I personally dont really use FG but it was a life saver for stalker 2

[solid crown]

if you can get it for a decent price sure

also 40 series seems to be more efficient with VSR so if thats a thing you want to use maybe consider the 4060

4090 used a lot less power than the 3060 with VSR but im not sure if that translates to the 4060

[cursive pendant]

Is 3060 ti's 8gb of ram good enough for PCVR you think? or should I consider the 3060's 12gb

[solid crown]

good question, im not sure I dont do VR

[cursive pendant]

ah okay, no problem

[empty quartz]

Counter question, do you even know what the minimum recs for vr are?

[cursive pendant]

Much lower

[empty quartz]

Theres your answer

[cursive pendant]

Well im not talking a bout the bare minimum essential lmao

[empty quartz]

The bare minimum is good enough

[cursive pendant]

Well what would be the point of upgrading?

[empty quartz]

Better performance, and newer games will eventually need better parts

[cursive pendant]

Bru

that proves my point 😭

All i wanna know is if the 4gb of vram is worth thinking about for pcvr

[empty quartz]

Name 1 gpu that has released in the last 5 years that has 4gb of vram on desktop

[solid crown]

he means if getting a 12gb 3060 is worth it over an 8gb 3060ti

[cursive pendant]

I'm talking a bout the extra 4gb lmfao

[solid crown]

particularly in VR

[empty quartz]

Get the 3060ti its better

[bronze jay]

I find that a good strategy is to talk to Microsoft copilot for a bit and then come back and verify the answer to make sure it's not bs

Never take what an AI says at face value

[vestal owl]

I bought a RX7600 but I'm using a AMD Ryzen 5 1600 which stops me from playing the game I want (freezes a lot). What's the cheapest CPU I could get to match this RX7600?

[empty quartz]

Literally anything newer

[bronze jay]

It's been killing it, though. So far I haven't had someone tell me no that's wrong

[solid crown]

id go with a 5600x maybe

possibly could get away with a 3600x

[empty quartz]

He said cheapest

The 3600 would be the best bet

3600x is a waste of money

[solid crown]

yeah but the 5600x is faster no?

[kindred halo]

Cheapest,,,,,,

A 5600X new is like 130 something

3600 is around 50-75ish

[empty quartz]

If you’re on a budget, why would you buy an expensive cpu

[solid crown]

ok but the 3600 might not be fast enough

[limber nacelle]

cause theyre cheeks

[jaunty apex]

5600 or bust

[empty quartz]

Its more than enough

[kindred halo]

It's fast enough for most basic tasks

[limber nacelle]

bust

[solid crown]

not really bro

[bronze jay]

Should I care that my team is 3200mhz when newer technology is 6000mhz? I mean it's working fine for me but I don't have a good reference point. I've never seen fast ram in action and I don't know what it feels like

[kindred halo]

6 core dual thread

[vestal owl]

a lot of peep suggested saving some money for a ryzen 7

[jaunty apex]

ryzen 7 what

[kindred halo]

Depending on what you're doing it might be better or might not be better

[vestal owl]

but there's this opportunity of a 5 5500 for half the price

[bronze jay]

Gaming

[vestal owl]

5700

[jaunty apex]

fair

[solid crown]

its fine

[empty quartz]

You might need to refresh your knowledge

[bronze jay]

2133 is also fine. I'm asking about how perceptible the difference is

[cursive pendant]

3070ti founders edition for $350

[empty quartz]

Get whatever’s cheapest

[kindred halo]

It'll be perceivable but not worth the upgrade if it's switching multiple people to DDR5 for not much of a change

[solid crown]

it really matters what games hes playing

[empty quartz]

Dont get the 3070ti, its really bad value

[cursive pendant]

wasn't going to

[bronze jay]

But like what changes

[empty quartz]

You recommended a 3600x…

[vestal owl]

idk... I bougth this rx7600 hoping that it'd solve my problem. But somehow the game performance is way worst than I had with gtx 1050

[kindred halo]

250 or nothin

[kindred halo]

What's your CPU

And what's your everything else

[solid crown]

are you the guy whos pedantic about terminology

[jaunty apex]

(some)how

[solid crown]

3600(x) 5600(x) 7600(x) it doesnt really matter whatever is the cheapest

[kindred halo]

Did you remember to plug your HDMI in the GPU port,,,,,

[solid crown]

sometimes the x variant is cheaper than the non x

such as with the 7600x

[vestal owl]

b450m gaming/br, ryzen 5 1600 and 2x8GB 2666Mhz RAM

[kindred halo]

That sometimes isn't that common anyway

[bronze jay]

I'm just checking in on what I'm missing out on. I like to keep track of how obselete my computer becomes over time and I haven't been paying much attention

[kindred halo]

How "worse" is your FPS compared to the 1050

[cursive pendant]

do you guys think anyone would buy a 1660ti for $100-120 or a rx6400 for 80-100 on marketplace?

[vestal owl]

it's not a lower FPS but the constant freezing that stops me from playing

[empty quartz]

What game?

[vestal owl]

I've always been poor so I don't really care about graphics

[vestal owl]

Throne and Liberty

[empty quartz]

Hdd?

[bronze jay]

I still love the 2060

[kindred halo]

Did you buy new or used

[bronze jay]

Can you afford that?

[kindred halo]

It's like 90-110 iirc

[empty quartz]

The 2060 is a downgrade from the rx7600

[bronze jay]

I thought he had a 1050

[kindred halo]

A 6600/XT would be an upgrade lol

[vestal owl]

gpu? new... other stuff were new too but I bought in 2021

[empty quartz]

Not from a 7600

[kindred halo]

Weird.
Try reseating your GPU and RAM

[kindred halo]

From a 2060*, sorry

Should've clarified </3

[vestal owl]

I've done all kinds of tests and stuff... it was a nightmare to even make it work for the first time... I'm tired and it always end up in "your CPU is bottleneck"

[empty quartz]

@vestal owl what kind of storage are you using

[vestal owl]

SSD

[bronze jay]

Wow

[empty quartz]

Id say get a 3600 or 5500 or whatever is cheapest

[empty quartz]

And then upgrade to 2x16gb for ram

If you can afford it

[kindred halo]

Bottleneck calculators are useless

[vestal owl]

I could try https://www.kabum.com.br/produto/320799/processador-amd-ryzen-5-5500-3-6ghz-4-2ghz-max-turbo-cache-19mb-am4-sem-video-100-100000457box

it's half the price of a R7 5700... but it's so weird that it's that price

[kindred halo]

And like Ace said, try getting a higher defies CPU like the 3600/5500 & more RAM

[jaunty apex]

... try setting the game to epic..?

It offloads shit onto the CPU with lower settings from what Im reading, Also some people are saying DLSS/FSR disabled helps

[vestal owl]

I could get more RAM or at least RAM that are 3200MHz

[vestal owl]

that makes 0 sense to me

[solid crown]

recommended specs for throne and liberty call for a 11600k which is faster than a 3600

[empty quartz]

You can set your mem speed to 3200 manually

[vestal owl]

and tbh I'm so f* up that I'm afraid of doing it and thins starts to burn lol

[jaunty apex]

https://www.reddit.com/r/throneandliberty/comments/1g0f1fa/fps_issues_throne_and_liberty/

Granted they have higher specs

[kindred halo]

What's the currency

[vestal owl]

what but they aren't something fixed? like... why would they sell two different things

[kindred halo]

Okay a 5500 for 104 USD isn't that great of a deal

[vestal owl]

BRL

[kindred halo]

They're usually around 90 US iirc

But it'll work

[upbeat snow]

So I already have a 1080p monitor and I'm wanting to get a monitor for casual chill games, can an rx 6600 handle light 1440p gaming or 30 inch 1440p? (Minecraft Val palworld) mhw rarely and far cry

[jaunty apex]

Should do

Idk about monster hunter rn but

[vestal owl]

that's weird and I'm really afraid of being troll...

[solid crown]

do you have aliexpress over there? how much is the 5600?

[jaunty apex]

I mean if you are dont do it. Up to you, can always set it back

[kindred halo]

Your board supports 3600 right out of the box

[solid crown]

the 5600x is $81 USD which is $459 BRL

[vestal owl]

yeah but it's risk of bad packaging or huge tax

[solid crown]

nah packaging is fine but yeah that tax might be an issue

[vestal owl]

I was referring to setting graphichs to epic

https://www.kabum.com.br/produto/181089/processador-amd-ryzen-7-5700g-3-8ghz-4-6ghz-max-turbo-cache-20mb-8-nucleos-16-threads-video-integrado-am4-100-100000263box

[jaunty apex]

DONT get a G. If you can help it at least.

[kindred halo]

Using a higher graphic setting will only crash your game at worst

[vestal owl]

I could risk it all trying this one... I always use two displays (one playing youtube)

[jaunty apex]

My 1660 quakes in its boots when I play resonite in VR with it

[solid crown]

MMORPG moment

[hexed tapir]

Dont worry I'm told that China will pay the tariffs

[kindred halo]

A G series is only if you're planning to use integrated for a while, want a backup, or have processes that could benefit from an iGPU

[hexed tapir]

G CPUs have less chache

[solid crown]

lol but fr the guy is in brazil so those dont apply but there may be other import duties over there

[vestal owl]

isn't a China issue but BR... recent government added huge tax in buying stuff outside de country

[jaunty apex]

hey they did that here too

[kindred halo]

You can just buy an HDMI/VGA to display port adapter

It's cheaper than putting more money just for integrated graphics

[jaunty apex]

I think we are solving issues that dont exist now

[hexed tapir]

I'm telling the teacher BR is copying our 🇺🇸 home work

[kindred halo]

No one even buys foreign stuff here from places like amazon because shipping is 100 dollars

[vestal owl]

US tells the whole LATAM what they can/can't do about everything...

[solid crown]

except when it comes to twitter I guess lol

[kindred halo]

US being US, oh well

Anyway, back onto topic

How much would a standard 5700 & 2x8GB cost

[hexed tapir]

The topic of smuggling computer parts to Brazil

[kindred halo]

Okay nvm I have to leave I have a math exam in 30 minutes 💔

[jaunty apex]

pcpartpicker could tell you that. Or ebay.

[fallen sky]

Is there any way I can make the windows watermark appear if I already tried doing CMD prompt method

[vestal owl]

good luck... if you manage to get on discord and need some help... I'm really stupid but got up to calculus 3 in uni

[jaunty apex]

You want the watermark?

[kindred halo]

I just got the mental image of the stock photo of a burglar just herding a bunch of stock photo kids who have pc part images over their faces into a "FREE RAM" van

[solid crown]

you... want the watermark to be visible?

[fallen sky]

To show someone

[kindred halo]

Can't even bring my phone to school
And I'll be fine, mostly just basic radicals & geometry

[fallen sky]

My windows key keeps getting reactivated hook restart idk why

[cursive pendant]

RTX 3060 TI for $200 or a RTX 4060 TI for $240 on marketplace?

[kindred halo]

We haven't even taken phale's law yet

[jaunty apex]

oop

[solid crown]

mf didnt we answer this ALREADY?

[cursive pendant]

We answered it with the 4060 lol

and not for that $240

[fallen sky]

no can do buckaroo (actually I can just edit it in)

[kindred halo]

It's been dumbed down to having the entire question for it just being glossed over and being given the answers to move on to stuff we already know (Pythagora's, etc)

[vestal owl]

https://www.kabum.com.br/produto/366827/processador-amd-ryzen-7-5700x-3-4ghz-cache-32mb-8-nucleos-16-threads-100-100000926wofam4

https://www.kabum.com.br/produto/129451/processador-amd-ryzen-5-5600x-3-7ghz-4-6ghz-max-turbo-cache-35mb-6-nucleos-12-threads-am4-100-100000065box

https://www.kabum.com.br/produto/320797/processador-amd-ryzen-7-5700x-3-4ghz-4-6ghz-max-turbo-cache-36mb-am4-sem-video-100-100000926wof

I could try one of this 3 options (double the price of the R5 I sent earlier) and keep the current RAM

[solid crown]

fine is it 8gb or 16gb

[cursive pendant]

8 lol

[kindred halo]

Although I'll probably still mess it up because exam stress kills like all intuition in my mind

[cursive pendant]

But its $240 tho

[solid crown]

youre paying 20% more for 11% more performance and FG

[jaunty apex]

8 Nucleos

[hexed tapir]

If you put < > around the link it hides the photos making it smaller <www example dott com/wgceghjh>

[jaunty apex]

Well first and 3rd look like th same thing, second has less cores

[vestal owl]

was aasking myself how to do it haha thanks

[solid crown]

do NOT use userbenchmark

techpowerup only

[jaunty apex]

Bro unironically posted UBM

[hexed tapir]

Fake benchmarks

[cursive pendant]

Oh well

[solid crown]

userbenchmark is unironic onion of benchmarking

[jaunty apex]

UBM is the ifunny of the pc world tbh

[hexed tapir]

Ubm changed the they ranked things when amd started winning

[cursive pendant]

Alr but I wouldnt need to upgrade my 500w psu

[solid crown]

yeah

well not for the 4060ti actually

[cursive pendant]

oh wait right

[solid crown]

but you would with a 3060ti

[limpid kernel]

don't you love it when windows randomly turns off your wifi driver?

[jaunty apex]

cant relate

[cursive pendant]

wait does the 4060 ti use the same watts as the 4060 does? ik i would need to upgrade my psu with a 3060 ti

[jaunty apex]

wired+linux

[solid crown]

no it uses more

[hexed tapir]

Do you know the percentage the tax would be buying from AliExpress?

[limpid kernel]

Oh fuck windows didn't load correctly

[solid crown]

www.techpowerup.com

[cursive pendant]

ye but i should still be fine with the 500w

[solid crown]

450w or higher recommended with the 4060ti

if you used techpowerup youd know that

[limpid kernel]

please not make me explain to my mum that this is an issue with the software and not the hardware (and potentially convince her to let me use arch because of shit like this being easily fixable)

[solid crown]

please do not convert the office pc to linux

[limpid kernel]

oop it booted properly this time

[cursive pendant]

Do you have any experience with facebook marketplace shipping buyers protection?

[jaunty apex]

Please do not ubuntu the school PCs

[limpid kernel]

why would i use ubuntu?

[solid crown]

no and I wouldnt ship anything on fb marketplace

[limpid kernel]

gnome and canonical are bad enough on their own lmao

[cursive pendant]

why? is the facebook purchase protection not good?

[limpid kernel]

oh lovely i logged into a black screen

my mouse exists tho

[solid crown]

yeah I dont think it is

[vestal owl]

saddly no... could be 0 but it could also be 3 times the price of the actual product here... with the chance of the item being stuck in some city for up to 3 months

[jaunty apex]

Why not? Aside from snap, the growing corporate mindset and other things people dont like

[sinful cobalt]

well done you managed to piss every1 off here in chat

[cursive pendant]

alright screw off im deleting that message

[limpid kernel]

wallpaper + desktop icons appeared

looks like we're good 🗿

god fucking dammit the wifi driver is still not working

[sinful cobalt]

i think this monitor is cooked

[limpid kernel]

why is get help saying the issue is that the ethernet adapter isn't working?

[jaunty apex]

me installing windows 7 without updates on my old windows 10 laptop

[limpid kernel]

the issue would be with the wifi driver, not anything with ethernet

[vestal owl]

there are some stores that make everything easier and more trustworthy I just don't know any 😿

[jaunty apex]

Coolest Ms support rep ngl. I wish my phone still worked cuz my key is on it, not that it matters IG lol

[limpid kernel]

alright finally connected

hopefully it doesn't break again

WHY DID I SAY THAT-

[jaunty apex]

I will say- Dont use Arch just because its Arch and its "cool" to use it. Youll prob not have a good time

[hexed tapir]

Am I converting the currency right? 1279 br is $222usd?!

[limpid kernel]

i've used arch on and off for over a year on my pc

i use it because i like it

[jaunty apex]

Fair enough

[limpid kernel]

...and it saves me $289AUD to buy a windows license

[vestal owl]

yup

[jaunty apex]

I never bought one lol.

Just ran 10 for 4 years without activation

[limpid kernel]

means i can spend that $289 on an english textbook to fix my spelling (i'm in english advanced with this spelling 💀)

[limpid kernel]

i couldn't deal with the watermark or no customisation

arch has neither of those problems for absolutely free 🗿

[jaunty apex]

I found programs to helpme fix that

[solid crown]

imagine paying for windows

[jaunty apex]

And I had VR so I had to move from Kubuntu to Windows. But now VR works well so Im on Mint

[limpid kernel]

hey, i'm a pirate, but when i can afford stuff, i pay for it.

[solid crown]

$100 for windows is insane

[limpid kernel]

i can afford a windows license, i just don't want to have to pay for it

so i'll use archlinux till i give up

actually i'll prolly just dual boot win11 and arch

[jaunty apex]

That and why does largest company need money to run the base layer to my PC with like.. one other option that people dont support and another which doesnt even have as good compatibility layers and is expensive and more locked down

[hexed tapir]

that's ridiculous

[solid crown]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-slide-futile-climbing-up-gif-5317421

[limpid kernel]

1tb for win, 500gb for arch, 500gb purely for shared files

[jaunty apex]

Like you arent gonna force me into a hole just because your thing is the only one that works at the time

[solid crown]

waste of time just commit

[limpid kernel]

nah, i like my customisation but i've had too many issues with proton on my i5 4460s to make me use steam on linux

i'll use linux for development, windows for games

[vestal owl]

and it indicates that things will only get worse... that's other reason why I'm looking for buying a new CPU

[solid crown]

which games can you run with a 4460

minesweeper?

[limpid kernel]

minecraft

[jaunty apex]

holyfuckingshityikesman

Gmod I bet. That "ran" on my N3050

[limpid kernel]

i'm going from the i5 4460s/12gb mismatched ddr3 in my current build to a 6600XT, 32gb DDR5 6000MHz, Ryzen 5 9600X

[solid crown]

probably would get a cheaper cpu but better gpu

[jaunty apex]

same

[limpid kernel]

already own the gpu, no point in spending extra

[jaunty apex]

weird

[solid crown]

then just get a cheaper cpu cause the 9600x is not worth it

[limpid kernel]

i bought it a year ago for a $1000 build that ended up going no where because the mobo came missing pins

[solid crown]

a 6600xt belongs in a $400 build lol

[limpid kernel]

really? why isn't it? i've been told it's good over multiple servers.

[jaunty apex]

Id say surely there were better options at that budget but..

[limpid kernel]

it's a $1000 AUD build

[jaunty apex]

ah. there it is

[solid crown]

7600(x) is cheaper and not much slower

[solid crown]

ohh gotcha

[limpid kernel]

any prices i give will be in aud lol

i'm not bothered to convert from aud to usd

[jaunty apex]

We have cad and usd as well so people get confused

Mostly me probably

[limpid kernel]

It's like $20AUD cheaper for me to get that instead iirc

Nvm, $15

[solid crown]

the 9600x is like 5% faster than the 7600x or 10% over the 7600 so if the percentage different is smaller than that yeah its worth getting it

[limpid kernel]

For $15 extra I might as well get the slightly faster one

[solid crown]

hows the used market look like over there

I could get a 7600x for around 190 AUD in the US

ive seen em down to 160 AUD before

[limpid kernel]

Haven't really checked for used parts. My mum wouldn't let me get them either way because they won't have warranty.

[solid crown]

oof

[jaunty apex]

seems reasonable considering the pins especially

but rip

[limpid kernel]

She's already making me pay $200AUD extra to have my PC built by another person just so I don't have to wait till the July holidays, and for someone else who is "qualified" (whatever the fuck that means) to build a PC to be ready so I can get it.

[devout oxide]

Chat

[solid crown]

damn

[devout oxide]

If you have fast networking what do you use it for cause 10 gig ssds are expensive but like 25gig ssds don’t exist

[frail delta]

Multiple users, disk arrays, data in memory

[limpid kernel]

she also refuses to watch a pc building tutorial because shes "not gonna understand it" like that's the point of the damn tutorial to show you how shit works 💀

[solid crown]

parents are something else man

[devout oxide]

Wdym multiple users? Like splitting a 25 gig into two 10 gigs?

Oh wait you mean

Multiple disks are faster since their compound speed

So they can handle the more data

[limpid kernel]

Do y'all know if there's a way to copy the contents of a HDD to an m.2 ssd?

Or will I need to reinstall everything when I do get the new PC?

[frail delta]

For example, a NAS may have a 10gbe connection, but the clients may only have 1gbe or 2.5gbe

When there are multiple clients accessing the NAS, it can** handle that

[limpid kernel]

Wait, I'm stupid. I can just use the HDD in the new PC, copy my games to the faster drive, then wipe it.

[devout oxide]

Ah so more band witch

[frail delta]

Yes

[limpid kernel]

Means I have 1tb on the m.2 for Win11, 1tb on the m.2 for Arch and 1tb on the HDD for shared storage (games, music, etc)

[devout oxide]

But even then, don’t you need fast enough storage

[frail delta]

Yes

[devout oxide]

Or is that fixed via just having multiple drives

[frail delta]

Yes

[devout oxide]

So like their speed gets added up I guess

[frail delta]

hence why I said disk arrays

[knotty breach]

What is the BIOS size of this motherboard?

[devout oxide]

Ah I see

Is it a bad idea to raid0 an external hdd with an internal one

[frail delta]

raid0 is a bad idea in any circumstance

[devout oxide]

Yea but I don’t care about my data

[frail delta]

Then why would the physical location of the drives matter

[devout oxide]

I mean it’s just an anime Jellyfin server I rather have faster loading times

[devout oxide]

Cause even though I don’t care it’s still annoying

[frail delta]

Just buy an ssd

Cheap as :)

[devout oxide]

For cache?

Initial loading times still have to go through the hdd though

[frail delta]

No, not for cache, instead of your shitty 1tb external hard drive

[knotty breach]

?

[frail delta]

a single ssd will be faster than 4 of those in raid0

[devout oxide]

It’s a 2 tv external and a 3 tb internal

[frail delta]

Same applies

[devout oxide]

Yea but 5tb expensive

[frail delta]

Also if you did plain old raid0 it'd only end up being a 4tb volume

[devout oxide]

Eh that’s fine

I’m thinking about maybe setting up so that when I watch an anime automatically the next episode or the rest of the episode gets sent to the ssd

That’d be nice but also probably pretty hard

[frail delta]

Buy an ssd

That solves your problem

[devout oxide]

I’m either gonna buy an ssd or an a310

Or an avr off eBay

That supports dts:x for like sub 150 probably

But my current avr has dp2 and im not much of an audio snob so I don’t really need it it’d just be cool

[jaunty apex]

8tb wd blue my jellyfin library is pretty snappy

[bronze jay]

At least 1

[clear canyon]

You run your jellyfin off a single hard drive? 😭😭

[jaunty apex]

yeah for now

[clear canyon]

😭

[jaunty apex]

I dont have money to expand rn lmao

Or space

Its in the plans though, trust

[devout oxide]

You know what

[bronze jay]

How can I make this not horrible? I spent 3 hours rewiring everything and it still looks like shit.

[devout oxide]

Is dual booting on a single ssd possible

[jaunty apex]

yes

[clear canyon]

Why would you do that?

[solid crown]

you put the back panel on and forget about it

[bronze jay]

Not good enough

[jaunty apex]

Use the cable routing areas? idk

[devout oxide]

Switch my 1tb to my server, then just slap my Linux distribution on like 300 gigs of my main ssd

[solid crown]

it will be cause youre supposed to forget about it

[jaunty apex]

Sort them out and route them together where they go

[clear canyon]

Wait what?

[devout oxide]

Cause lowkey I don’t even use that much I originally bought it for games and now I don’t even game anymore

[bronze jay]

Yeah and then it's hard to work on because I can't tell where anything goes

[jaunty apex]

Kinda hard to like.. text how to manage your cables man lol

Its point A to point B mostly

Just straighten/flatten them out

[bronze jay]

I was thinking of getting longer ones so I can route them better

[devout oxide]

Ok my current rig has 2 ssds. A 1tb and a 2tb. I have Linux on the 1tb and windows on the 2. I’m proposing switching Linux to the 2tb then moving the 1tb to the Jellyfin server

[solid crown]

ok bruh take the entire pc apart and spend 4 hours meticulously cable managing it

[bronze jay]

I did that and I'll do it again

[devout oxide]

And I can actually download games to my server instead of my main rig then just transfer them over whenever I need them

If I need too

[jaunty apex]

Idk what we are supposed to suggest lol

[bronze jay]

That's okay

Thanks anyway

[jaunty apex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3dggnkaEs8

[azure topaz]

its not that deep

[jaunty apex]

that ig? Plus LTT cable ties to make it uh.. LTT? idk

[solid crown]

ship it to me and ill cable manage it for $300

[bronze jay]

Yeah I was thinking the same

[azure topaz]

small cables under the big cables and put them in their designated holes

[bronze jay]

I just don't want it to be so chaotic because it's hard to work on

[azure topaz]

if youre too stupid to figure out which holes are for what cable i dont think you should have a computer

[bronze jay]

The same goes for you. Clearly it works.

[azure topaz]

(okay a little bit of /j on that one)

[jaunty apex]

I skipped right to 4:53 lmao. Thanks Jay

[bronze jay]

That was really uncalled for

[azure topaz]

put the square in the square hole

[bronze jay]

True

[jaunty apex]

Where does the circle go?

[azure topaz]

square hole

[bronze jay]

Square hole

[jaunty apex]

Where does the triangle go?

[azure topaz]

mm toughj one. square hole.

[bronze jay]

Sayaete jhyoke

[jaunty apex]

Mmm. But what about the bridge piece?

[bronze jay]

MY EYE

[azure topaz]

rotate that bitch and into the square hole

[jaunty apex]

https://tenor.com/view/linux-kernel-compression-gameing-windows96-gif-16467548442967153893

[azure topaz]

bros only got a 2060 super

and 256 megs of ram 🔥

[bronze jay]

Clearly a vm

That's not even possible

[azure topaz]

just the game not seeing it properly

allocated or whatveer

[bronze jay]

No i think it's just cut off

2060 is still solid. I'd use one without complaining.

[azure topaz]

i used a 3060 for a few days on my 1440p monitor for fun it wasnt great it wasnt bad

id probably play games less though

[bronze jay]

I was on 1080p with mine

[azure topaz]

yeah 1440p is a differeent beast fr

[bronze jay]

I upgraded the card and monitor at the same time

[azure topaz]

2060s holds up at 1080p for sure tho

[bronze jay]

There weren't any games it couldn't handle

[junior valve]

not important, kinda a waste of time

[devout oxide]

It is

Tiny box Linux or whatever is only like 40mb isn’t it

[bronze jay]

While also loading Minecraft? Not a chance.

Though it's clearly not actually Minecraft

[devout oxide]

Maybe swap memory or pooling vram

[jaunty apex]

tinycore

[jaunty apex]

ok

[solid crown]

care to elaborate your opinion

[sinful cobalt]

yall cable manage the back?

i just stuffed all my cables

[sly epoch]

Aint no way I found rx 9070 at msrp

W or nah?

[mint umbra]

How long till they start using ai in animated tv and movies

[dusky crest]

Scam 100%

[solid crown]

looks like a scam

[sly epoch]

Damn no one fell for it

[frail delta]

@boreal vine :p

[solid crown]

not even the ztt server would fall for that

[sly epoch]

I was hoping at least 1 person would fall for it

This one is more realistic at $900 💀

[tawny cove]

might go with a ryzen 9 series cpu but lmk what you guys think https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3NcvmC

[sly epoch]

What a ripoff lmao

More than $500 for a 4060ti

I could literally get an rx 7700 xt for $400 and it will be a good competition to the 4070ti

[steel umbra]

4070 ti is a different tier of card

[sly epoch]

Exactly

Compared to a 500 dollar 4060

[sly epoch]

The rx 7700 xt can beat the 4070ti in some games

But its close performance

For $400 you cant really complain

[steel umbra]

in very specific titles yes, in 98% cases no, on average the 4070 ti is about 25% 35% faster

[sly epoch]

Nah its close

I have a 7700xt and my sister has 4070ti

Its close

[steel umbra]

which titles

[tawny cove]

might go 2 32 gb memory or 4 16

[sly epoch]

Mostly free games cuz we dont spend money to buy games unless they r good

So war thunder, Fortnite, valorant, marvel rivals, 7 days to die,

The 4070 beats the 7700xt on marvel rivals bc of some rtx feature

And also on the finals

But on most games it pretty close

[steel umbra]

war thunder doesn’t require a $400 gpu, nor valorant or 7 ways to die

[sly epoch]

Taking into account that no RTX related

[sly epoch]

I can because I can

[steel umbra]

well, the other ones you’ve named don’t benefit that much from a better gpu

[hexed tapir]

Idk my 5700xt only gets 144fps on a mix of mostly medium setting on war thunder 😜

[sly epoch]

I love to have extra head room

[steel umbra]

as it turns out the 4070 ti is exactly 1.45x of 7700 xt at 1440p ultra without rt

on average, w gpu intensive titles

[sly epoch]

R u an average Nvidia fanboy

?

Why r u going all out to defend the name of the rtx card

[peak knot]

my gtx 2070 is taking forever to get here

[sly epoch]

All im saying is for $400 the rx 7700 is really good price to performance

[hexed tapir]

Just buy a MSRP arc b580

[steel umbra]

that wasn’t your original point

you said it was close to the 4070 ti

[sly epoch]

Yes

It is

[steel umbra]

1.45x is not

[sly epoch]

On the games I play At least

[hexed tapir]

It's been 7 years you should have gotten it by now ;p

[sly epoch]

1.45x

[sly epoch]

Its close

[peak knot]

i mean it just hit NY

[sly epoch]

Compared to $800 4070ti

[hexed tapir]

Why the fuck is chatgpt in usps

[steel umbra]

50 to 72 fps isn’t close

[peak knot]

this is 17track

[sly epoch]

It is for me

[peak knot]

its a great site to use for international mail and multiple carriers

[hexed tapir]

Ah

[peak knot]

and you can track many packages at once

[sly epoch]

Like I said on most games I play they are close

Trust me I have them on hand and ive compared both my pc and my sisters pc countless times

[peak knot]

https://www.17track.net/en
can track forty packages at once and the site is free to use 100% recommend it

[sly epoch]

Our pc specs are the exact same but the difference is the cards I have 7700xt she has 4070ti

[steel umbra]

again, the titles you’re playing are not-so gpu intensive

[sly epoch]

So what

Fps is fps

They almost produce the same fps

[green crown]

War thunder didnt like my i5 10th gen laptop cpu

[steel umbra]

you’re saying this as if majority of people play the games you only play, probably even stepping down to a 3060 with the games you’re playing wouldn’t make a big difference

[sly epoch]

Yeah even on my 5th gen i5 laptop

[green crown]

Integrated ghraphics

Neither did fortnite

[sly epoch]

Now i only use it for school

[peak knot]

im happy with my 3090 i got at LTX in a trade for a USB stick, gonna take a lot to get me off it as my daily

[green crown]

But must be sum issue cuz I've seen people get more than 5 fps when jumping out of a battle bus with older cpus

[sly epoch]

Hahaha relatable

[peak knot]

now if i could fix my 6900xt id be very happy

[sly epoch]

What happen

[peak knot]

its stuck in safety mode at 500mhz dont know why

i cant find the issue with it

[sly epoch]

Did u try to claim warranty?

[frail delta]

Aren't these sort of websites used by fraudsters to grab tracking numbers they can sell?

[peak knot]

yeah... amd wont touch this card with a 10 foot pole even if i wanted them to, its a prototype 6900xt

[peak knot]

nah 17track is trustworthy, ive been using it for years

[elder quarry]

Do you have a bios switch

[strange atlas]

I dont even do anything on the pc but everyday 2-3 tb of read + 1 tb of write is going done on my disk how can i check what is using that much

[sly epoch]

Cuz before i got 7700xt I had a 6600 that died then I claimed warranty and they gave me my money back. So since I got my money back and I also had a little saved up I just ended up buying the 7700xt

[astral vessel]

is there any kind of mono to stereo aux adapter for microphone?
especially those that have another 2.5mm jack go along with it

[steel umbra]

i believe 17track is okay, but unsure if they be selling your data, or the tracking addresses you type in probably yes but legally

[elder quarry]

Huh? If your microphone only has mono audio uou can’t change that with an adapter

Anyways #audio-tech

[astral vessel]

i mean in order to plug to the mic port without being muted
i have to plug it only partly to receive sound

[steel umbra]

so, nothing out of ordinary

[elder quarry]

#audio-tech

[sly epoch]

My point is. Is it really worth paying another 400 for 1.45x

[frail delta]

Please don't make me go to pro cloudflare 🤣

[sly epoch]

Taking into account that I didnt use any upscaling

Or any kind of frame gen

Just plain ol' native

[ebon marlin]

anyone here used Copilot before? can it answer to stuff that's on screen?

[elder quarry]

Personal opinion. No, it is not. Really depends on your current performance too, but I wouldn’t buy it.

[frail delta]

Copilot+?

[peak knot]

my website serves like no data lol

[sly epoch]

Exactly

[elder quarry]

Ig you can take a screenshot and send it…

[frail delta]

Yeah this is a local weather camera

[formal sonnet]

🤔

[elder quarry]

2.26k, wow

[frail delta]

It's kinda getting to be a PITA because it was a little too janky to start off with

And I'm paying for that now

[peak knot]

im thinking most of that is people skimming github

[frail delta]

It'd be mostly bots

[elder quarry]

For like tokens or what?

[peak knot]

cause i am using github as my hosting service since its just mostly static HTML and javascript

[tidal geyser]

Kirashi did you forget this discord server is a search engine

[peak knot]

you can use github to host websites for free

[tidal geyser]

Well at least we get used as one

[peak knot]

its just the websites code will be publicly visible

[elder quarry]

Private repos?

[elder quarry]

(Also it will be visible anyways, at least with bare html and js)

[peak knot]

you could i guess but my website doesnt store anything private or confidential

my websites composition

[elder quarry]

lol, all of tuat is visible no matter what

[peak knot]

exactly so no point in hiding it

which is why im using github, its free

and they offer free tools for custom domains and such

[frail delta]

Professionals store their API keys in the HTML

[elder quarry]

Yup

[formal sonnet]

Wait, I thought that's where we're supposed to store our Student's SSN's and other personal data?

There's just no way to view commented out HTML code. And if there is, we'll make it illegal! /s

[frail delta]

Silly, you keep that on the private spreadsheet

[steel umbra]

does anyone else hate c++
I just feel like dried peanut because it’s too hard for my -72 iq brain

[tawny cove]

should i go with noctua fans for the cpu cooler https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZjnJRV

[steel umbra]

well, you can always buy the pricey fans later

also i’d probably swap out that motherboard for something else

[ebon marlin]

Ah seems like it's just another chatgpt copy boring

[steel umbra]

b650m pro rs wifi not available?

[true stirrup]

The ones that come stock on the cooler are good enough
No need to change them

[tawny cove]

what do you have in mind

[formal sonnet]

I mean, what were you expecting? Most current "smart" chat bots are just built off Machine Learning systems...

[tawny cove]

wrong messgae lool

[steel umbra]

buy the parts, then buy the extra fans

[ebon marlin]

Thought it was something special since it was integrated into Windows so thought it could do something more

[steel umbra]

also, if you care about noise, fans used in core reactors have really poor QC, like from my experience and the amount of core reactors i bought every second one has noisy fan, and no it’s not the fan controller on the psu

[tawny cove]

gotcha

[frail delta]

It can on Copilot+ PCs

[tawny cove]

what about the MB you said i should probs get a better one, but which would be the best for the setup

[elder quarry]

Beuh. What’s even the difference

[frail delta]

More tightly integrated LLMs...

[steel umbra]

probably a cheaper nvme too or, pay a bit extra for 2tb

[elder quarry]

So just a “modded” windows version?

[frail delta]

And Recall, which is a really cool concept

[elder quarry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/532914296502353930/1333352803317317673/attachment.gif

[tawny cove]

i have a 14tb external hd (ik way overkill lol) its not fast but its ok

[steel umbra]

b650m pg lightning wifi is ok, b650m pro rs, tuf b boards

maybe b850m-x wifi

do you need wifi right

[tawny cove]

yeah

[frail delta]

WiFi/BT is neat to have anyway for passkeys, intel unison etc

[elder quarry]

Bluetooth is nice

Oj you efitrd

[frail delta]

On I IdnDnt

[graceful girder]

me who only uses bt for speakers

[elder quarry]

I use it for nothing currently

[steel umbra]

for nvme mp33, p34a60, c910 will do

[tribal nest]

holy shit https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fDCZxr/

[frail delta]

Passkeys 💪

[graceful girder]

my laptop speakers are ass so i got no choice

[tribal nest]

hell yeah

[graceful girder]

yk i didn't know i had bt?

[elder quarry]

What’s wrong

[frail delta]

I put a Wifi NIC into my desktop specifically for passkeys

[tribal nest]

nothing

i’m just shocked at the cfm

that’s literally exactly what i want

[elder quarry]

I use 2.4ghz for my headset… thats Wi-Fi

[steel umbra]

yes, these are finger choppers, and have all the torque

even p12 max discontinued version had enough power to give you some deep cuts

[tribal nest]

noted

don’t stick your finger in there