tech-chat-1

[gloomy sleet]

he’s a fucking idiot

[wild solar]

no they are pretty good

[drifting geode]

guys i want one cup stop arguing

ur wasting time BC i want one

[gloomy sleet]

xeons are ass at anything that they aren’t meant to do

[wild solar]

it was cheap and runs great

[gloomy sleet]

no it doesn’t

[wild solar]

xeons are like any other cpu the single core is not great but multi is very good

[gloomy sleet]

why did he do that?

[wild solar]

cus i made him

[gloomy sleet]

and the gaming performance is ass

[drifting geode]

u need single core aswell

[wild solar]

if your playing 1 single core game then yeah but its not 2012 anymore and games use more then 1 core now

[elder quarry]

yeah. search prompt: windows eula.
Do I really have to search for end user lisence agreement to get the right one? But wait... .NET?

well done 👍🏻

[wild solar]

the single core is fast enough for any single core task

want to have 50 google tabs open it will be just fine

[true stirrup]

Xeons are not worth it so stop recommending it

[wild solar]

have you ever used a xeon build before?

they are great on low price gaming

[true stirrup]

A 3600 is a miles better choice

[wild solar]

40 bucks for a 14 core cpu

no its not lol

[true stirrup]

It has more performance and an actual upgrade path

[wild solar]

they run about the same

xeon has the longest upgrade path using the v2 socket

[drifting geode]

guys

[elder quarry]

what

[solar moat]

LOL whats next 25 seconds in pyprime

[drifting geode]

can u just recomend me a good build for £450

[elder quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-wizardcat-goodbye-chat-gif-8533816440036195590

[true stirrup]

What Rauko sent yesterday

[drifting geode]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zkRX3w
is this one not good

[drifting geode]

i cant he wont accept my offer

[wild solar]

not a soul in here that wants a gaming pc for the cheap cares how fast there cpu is in pyprime

[solar moat]

its not worse way to see how shit memory system is

[solar moat]

wow ddr3 speed ram for e5 2680 v4

[true stirrup]

The 350£ one he sent was a great deal

[wild solar]

ddr4

[solar moat]

i said speed

like 2400 is ddr3 speeds

but its ddr4

[wild solar]

2400 mhz quad is fine

[solar moat]

dipite it slower AF in many games

[wild solar]

you can make up the 5 fps dif by picking a better gpu

4 channels of 2400 is fine

get a low cl rating and you will do fine

[solar moat]

yes high af latency but ok bandwith

[drifting geode]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/365423362340 this one?

[solar moat]

?

[drifting geode]

or this one https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/187030688360

[wild solar]

the bandwith makes up for the latency

[solar moat]

no

[wild solar]

not by much but enough

[solar moat]

some workloads care about letancy more then others and some dont give a shit about bandwthi

[wild solar]

again gaming

my friend has the build

[solar moat]

yes many games dont give a shit about bandwith

[wild solar]

it runs great

no issues

[true stirrup]

I meant the 3050 one but this one would be the best to get

[wild solar]

ram munching games like beamng and read or not dont seem to care

[solar moat]

thats subjetive but if its runs good from them good for them

[drifting geode]

ok so i should get this?

[wild solar]

hes getting triple the fps from his shitty i7 4770k

[slim slate]

What does people think of XFX's 9070 XT lineup? I ordered the Mercury Magnetic Air RGB in white, but problem is, delivery is about 2 months.. The Quicksilver is 50 USD less but its in stock. Any thoughts? I really don't have a need for GPU.. RIGHT NOW 😉 My 6800 XT still rocks

[solar moat]

and that cpu 2x faster as 13400f in some games

[wild solar]

what type of compersion is that

[true stirrup]

The 4060 one sure

[wild solar]

the xeon is 40 bucks

[solar moat]

and?

[wild solar]

the i7 is like 25 bucks

[solar moat]

and?

[wild solar]

price to fps its un beatable

[solar moat]

what price for mobo/ram/cpu combined?

since most old cpu price is 95% the mobo some times the ram costs a load if you want higher GB/speeds

[drifting geode]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/395574785200?
what ab this

[wild solar]

mobo was 120 ram was like 40 bucks

[wild solar]

220 with the cooler

[wild solar]

huh?

[true stirrup]

Over your budget

[drifting geode]

what if i saved?

[drifting geode]

i cna choose parts too

[wild solar]

are you going to explain?

[solar moat]

you can get better NEW for that much

[wild solar]

you really cant

[solar moat]

yes you can

[wild solar]

i5 12400 120

the xeon is a little slow mind you the xeon again is 40 bucks

[slim slate]

Its in norwegian, but basically says "Often bought together" at the top.. Proof of scalpers in work lol

[true stirrup]

All over your budget

[solar moat]

but when you spning the amount that ok new boards cost on the old board/platform/ram is cheap af

[drifting geode]

ok the other one then

ill get it

[frail delta]

And uses an order of magnitude more energy

[wild solar]

120 watts vs 65

its more yes but cheap as fuck

[solar moat]

LOL

you looking at made up numbers

[frail delta]

And will be slower

[solar moat]

TDP is not power draw

[wild solar]

rw it uses 155 max

still not as much as my cpu

but my cpu is like twice as fast for twice the power

[solar moat]

funny how 12400f in allcore is like 2x faster

[wild solar]

~29% talk about made up numbers

[thin plover]

ammount of each cpu, what he means is there's 279 i7's so you can't just say what cpu you mean without saying the generation

[solar moat]

well ddr5 dose help since it has shit loads more badnwth

[wild solar]

i did

[frail delta]

Thanks iono for compiling this list :p

[wild solar]

ddr5 send the 12 gen and up so much highy

ddr5 is crazy fast

[solar moat]

40 sec 898 ms is fastest i can find in allcore workload i like for the zeon
where the 12400 a slow score is like like 35 seconds where the fastest socre submited with 12400 is sub 20 serconds at a sweet 19.711

[wild solar]

"zeon"

[solar moat]

idc

[wild solar]

im not running stress test im playing games

the i5 12400 is 40% faster in game with ddr5

[solar moat]

got fortnight

[wild solar]

25-30% using ddr4

but for 3.5x the price

[drifting geode]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/376075307447?

roblox and minecraft setup w or l?

[solar moat]

and you can get better new for 230 if you look at better cheap cpus

[wild solar]

what

you got to dumb it down im on the good kush

[gloomy sleet]

it would run them

[ivory olive]

Newegg going crazy rn. 215 14600kf and a free 1tb nvme ssd, civ 7 and AC shadows.

[drifting geode]

good setup tho? or this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/187030688360

[gloomy sleet]

build is £300 max though

[solar moat]

you can get am4 board with 32GB of 3200 ddr4+3600 for 230 new

[wild solar]

but no cpu?

oh

[solar moat]

r5 3600

[gloomy sleet]

that’s 100% worth

get that

[solar moat]

not amzeing cpu but not bad and you have good upgrade parth

[wild solar]

the ryzen 5 3600 is about the same speed as the xeon

[drifting geode]

can u check pictures and mkae sure its legit bc no returns

[solar moat]

but its on better platfrom

[gloomy sleet]

it is

it is in fact a computer i can confirm

just test it when you pick it up

[wild solar]

i mean yeah but there is always a bigger meaner xeon cpu for cheap

i mean price scalling with xeons is realy bad

[drifting geode]

its gonna be delivered

[wild solar]

@frail delta stop lurking

[elder quarry]

huh

[solar moat]

where is my lga 775 board time to get 15 cpus for less then the chips i eat for lunch

[frail delta]

It is a public discussion...

[wild solar]

what

[wild solar]

being a lurker

[solar moat]

you can get them for like 50c each

[ivory olive]

Guys I think I need to downgrade my thermal pads on this 3090

[wild solar]

what

[frail delta]

I am participating...

[wild solar]

well now you are

[ivory olive]

The thermal pads is so good it's making my core temp/ hot spot temp abit too hot.

[wild solar]

that means its not working

[frail delta]

Huh...

[drifting geode]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/187030688360

idk something dogey ab this hes giving monitor and keyboard and headset

[wild solar]

im not a big fan of 2auth

[drifting geode]

2auth is the goat ur js weird

[wild solar]

no im just lazy and dont want to open my email to get the 2auth code

[ivory olive]

It is working. The thermal pads transfer more heat of the vram into the heatsink. That means heatsink gets hotter, therefore core and hotspot increases. Vram temp drops.

[frail delta]

Like two factor authentication?

[wild solar]

yeah

[drifting geode]

more of a job getting ur hacked abbount back buddy

[wild solar]

just no

[drifting geode]

also putitng it on ur discord profile isnt the smartest pppl will hack u

[frail delta]

Nobody is going to do that

[drifting geode]

believe me some ppl do

[wild solar]

i still have 2auth on and i have easly gotton my account back

[drifting geode]

its easy to setup a bot to guess mutiple password attempts

[ivory olive]

?

[slim slate]

Actually sad to see last gen GPU's are twice in price now than 2 years ago WTF

[frail delta]

Passwords are dead
https://fidoalliance.org/passkeys/

[wild solar]

im in a goober server filled with "hackers" that try to hack and or dox me they have all failed i believe im sage

[ivory olive]

Are you trying to buy used?

[slim slate]

one type of 4090 was 1885 USD a couple years ago, while almost 3700 USD now

Brand new

[wild solar]

i have never used anything other then passwords

[ivory olive]

Imo used market older gpu priced has been the same. Which is really bad cause newer gen did not make older gpu cheaper.....

[frail delta]

Then you're behind the times, my friend

[wild solar]

logging to my server i use my root password no key

i keep my ports open to show im not scared

i install software that have 50+ active score 9.8 cve

[rigid fjord]

he still at it ?

[rigid fjord]

3auth is the goat, 2auth is mid

[drifting geode]

im not gonna get the pc bc it seemd dogey

its to good to be true

[frail delta]

✨passkeys✨

[rigid fjord]

bit warden 😉

[frail delta]

Has passkey support :)

[drifting geode]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/187051274805?

@rigid fjord

[wild solar]

password better

[frail delta]

Except they absolutely aren't

[wild solar]

passkey doesnt do much when they just use a login token

[rigid fjord]

not without a passkey protection

[wild solar]

the 2nd most common way to hack servers is using a exploit on shitty software
accounts its data breachs and tokens

[drifting geode]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/sjz4JM

[wild solar]

the 1st more common way is password but still

thats just becuase the owner is dumb

[rigid fjord]

hell, add biometric on top of the passkey

[wild solar]

no im good

to much data at that point

[lapis talon]

whats a good 27" 180hz 2k IPS monitor under $300?

[frail delta]

Huh? What are you on about

[wild solar]

they already have my device info and everything else they dont need my fingers

[frail delta]

I hope you're trolling

[wild solar]

no im on that good kush

as stated earlier

[rigid fjord]

he's a shitposter

[peak knot]

BNA my old friend

[wild solar]

im fried not a shit poster

we are not the same

[rigid fjord]

this is £600 not 450

[lapis talon]

wait forget the monitor, whats a good 750W or 800W Gold rated PSU (2 8pins or 3 8pins)

[drifting geode]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/q2YKkf

just rate it

[sinful cobalt]

superflower leadex 2 850w gold

1x dedicated 1x pigtail 8pin

[sleek ibex]

I get off work in half an hour and damn...... A burger sounds about good RN even though it's almost half past 5 in the morning...... Yeah graveyard shift does that to ya

[rigid fjord]

fuck no, that is a terrible build and still over the 450

[wild solar]

its what ever you need

[sinful cobalt]

the uncles at my workplace bought portidge for every1 in the team since its rainin

[drifting geode]

i just pressed random parts lol

[wild solar]

eat a burger on the graves

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/anby-anby-demara-demara-zzz-zenless-gif-12165589462243060775

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cute-gif-7254742

[iron glen]

hi sim

[lapis talon]

not available in my country

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/anby-anby-demara-demara-zzz-zenless-gif-13982539421482137723

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-nuh-uh-meow-sniff-incorrect-gif-11442321997337963097

[lapis talon]

reliability wise

[rigid fjord]

corsair rm750x/rm850x

[wild solar]

who makes them

[iron glen]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-12756433236776117962

[wild solar]

the rating does not mean more reliable

[iron glen]

hi rauko

[lethal bay]

Where ya off to?

[rigid fjord]

sup dude

[lapis talon]

which one

[rigid fjord]

top one obviously

[lapis talon]

whats the shift one?

[wild solar]

its cost more

[lethal bay]

Connectors are on the side

[wild solar]

that too

[sleek ibex]

Shout out to IHOP and my local National Coney Island for even doing this

[lapis talon]

no it actually costs less

[iron glen]

are they not always on a side?

[rigid fjord]

the ports are on the side and not the back, and only useable in a select few cases

[lapis talon]

ah

[lethal bay]

They’re on the side not front or back

[drifting geode]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/306059917994?

roblox and minecraft pc w or l?

[rigid fjord]

rm850x

[iron glen]

ah

[rigid fjord]

rm850x shift

[wild solar]

weird money

[drifting geode]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/297114333635?dy1ZQ

[rigid fjord]

hard L

[lapis talon]

fr

[drifting geode]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/297114333635?
what ab this

[rigid fjord]

hard L again

[drifting geode]

frr

[iron glen]

isnt that one worse?

[drifting geode]

bro i rlly dont know how to find a good pc

idk much ab parts tbh

[lapis talon]

just build one

[wild solar]

someone make him a list

[rigid fjord]

4th gen intel pc's are only worth £50-100

[drifting geode]

yeah i want to but my budget is £450 and ppl say its impossible

[lapis talon]

I wouldnt say impossible

[wild solar]

dawg he cant even find a some what good prebuilt i dont think he can build a pc

[peak knot]

Colorado

[lapis talon]

💀

[rigid fjord]

2019 version of the rm850x, tier A psu

[lethal bay]

https://tenor.com/view/imagiraffe-giraffe-colorado-skiing-gif-11410161

[iron glen]

you won't get the best one but you'll get a pc with that money

[drifting geode]

can u help me build a new one then its for robloc and minecraft mainly i might be playing gta on it or even other games but robloc and minecraft is main games

[meager coral]

Hey guys need some help

[lapis talon]

oh im def cooked then

[meager coral]

Please

[peak knot]

I’ll be back Monday morning

[lethal bay]

please tell me someone gets this

[lapis talon]

doesnt roblox mainly use the CPU

[drifting geode]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/326393974162?

[rigid fjord]

i already showed you viableones for it

[iron glen]

just tell us your problem, we arent mind readers

[rigid fjord]

again, hard L

[drifting geode]

ok sm help me build one on part picker

[lapis talon]

either compromise of aesthetics or compromise on performance

[peak knot]

Not really

[lapis talon]

on*

[drifting geode]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/sF8TwP

[rigid fjord]

no, you already got shown good ones, pick one of those instead

[lethal bay]

It was a vine

[meager coral]

Anyone mind helping me…I just had motherboard installed and new cpu. They cloned my drive and reinstalled windows. I boot up my PC and I get this screen that says hit F1 to get into BIOS

[drifting geode]

i wanna build not buy used

[iron glen]

not anymore, i recognize the video but ion get the joke

[rigid fjord]

you ain't building one for £450, and the ones is linked you could easily upgrade

[peak knot]

Only vines I really remember are the real big ones like free-shavak-adoo

[gloomy sleet]

just get this

[iron glen]

and?

[lethal bay]

https://youtube.com/shorts/8n-8TGxKdzQ?si=fC50IcHoykiy5AIT

[meager coral]

And only one monitor is showing the bios and the other monitor isn’t showing anything

[rigid fjord]

enable expo ffs

[drifting geode]

ok if i get it will it need upgrading

[meager coral]

I don’t know what any of that is

[gloomy sleet]

why

[meager coral]

I am not tech savvy

[drifting geode]

bc its used

[gloomy sleet]

so?

[iron glen]

is the other monitor plugged in?

[gloomy sleet]

it’s still perfectly fine as it is

[meager coral]

Yea it is

Hold up let me make sure

[gloomy sleet]

a 5600 and a 4060 is fine

[meager coral]

Yes it is

[gloomy sleet]

for £450 it’s perfect

[rigid fjord]

the 5600 + 6600 was a better one for their budget

[iron glen]

whas that do

[peak knot]

They just ported splinter cell conviction to the ps vita so I got that and the balatro port ready to go, I also have my ally and laptop on me

[lethal bay]

Nice lol

[rigid fjord]

enables expo profile, aka xmp for amd systems when it comes to ddr5

[gloomy sleet]

what one was that

[peak knot]

I gotta work a little while I’m in Colorado so I brought what I need to work and do some other stuff

[iron glen]

simpler terms please :3
idk what any of that is my bad

[lethal bay]

I bought an LG C4 over the weekend lol. Joining the “OLED TV as a monitor” gang

[lapis talon]

I need an alternative to the corsair psu

the only corsair ones available for me rn 😭

[meager coral]

It’s all good. I’ll go somewhere else and ask. No BG deal

Hope you guys have a good night. Thanks for the help from other night.

[rigid fjord]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/116487335189 accepts offers, there's one that's almost the same setup but with a 3600 for £380 and accepts offers which he could easily upgrade over time

[rigid fjord]

do not get these unless you got a case that's compatible for it

[lapis talon]

I know that, thats why I asked for an alternative psu]

[gloomy sleet]

honestly id go the 4060 one

£70 more but it’s worth it

especially since you get a better cpu too

[rigid fjord]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/365423362340 @drifting geode you get this and offer £350 on it

[lapis talon]

hows this rauko

[rigid fjord]

it's the same fucking cpu between this one and the one with the 4060 in

[rigid fjord]

lower tier A, but definitely viable

[lapis talon]

then what should I go for 😭

[gloomy sleet]

no?

[rigid fjord]

go for this instead

[lapis talon]

I want something that will last me a long time

[gloomy sleet]

the 4060 one has a 5600

[lapis talon]

alright

[wild solar]

13000 ancient curses

[rigid fjord]

5600 + 4060 vs 5600 + 6600

[gloomy sleet]

the 6600 one you linked has a 3600

[rigid fjord]

tell me you can't read without telling me you can't read

[gloomy sleet]

the fuck are you on about

[gloomy sleet]

this has a 5600 now?

[rigid fjord]

you can read for shit

[lethal bay]

rare vaux reading moment

[wild solar]

your such a goober

[gloomy sleet]

that’s the one that’s £550

[lethal bay]

BRO IT SAYS 3600

[rigid fjord]

he replies to the 5600 one first

[gloomy sleet]

see this isn’t a schizophrenic episode

[lethal bay]

oh lmao

[gloomy sleet]

yeah but that one is £550

so you shouldn’t get it

the other one is £380 and has a 3600 and a 6600

[lapis talon]

me watching this go down rn:

[lethal bay]

idk Zen 3 minimum nowadays

[gloomy sleet]

what

[lethal bay]

for used imo

[wild solar]

aint you like 13?

[gloomy sleet]

no

[lethal bay]

if you’re building new, low end Zen 4 fs

[wild solar]

are you sure?

[gloomy sleet]

please read

[rigid fjord]

oh look a button to make offers on

[gloomy sleet]

your going to get max £30 off that £380 build

[wild solar]

got to dumb it down im on that good kush

[gloomy sleet]

and you can make offers on the 4060 build too

[frail delta]

He’s 14

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-crazy-shocked-surprised-flames-gif-16577214

[gloomy sleet]

i’m not 14

[wild solar]

oh lol

[drifting geode]

this one is better
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/187030688360

[wild solar]

he is 14 lol

[gloomy sleet]

yes

[rigid fjord]

i could get more than that off of it, and then upgrade the cpu or gpu on it still

[drifting geode]

Ryzen 5 5600 and RTX 4060 will last longer

[high elm]

damn 14 im getting old

[gloomy sleet]

yeah but the 4060 build is better already

[wild solar]

how old are you

[gloomy sleet]

28 tomorrow my guy

[sleek ibex]

[rigid fjord]

cpu wise only, not gpu wise

[gloomy sleet]

it is better gpu wise?

[wild solar]

damm you hit menopuase already

[gloomy sleet]

fuck you too

[wild solar]

🤣

[gloomy sleet]

who tf gets menopause at 28

[rigid fjord]

literally on 40 series nvidia, you avoid the 4060 on desktop, it's only good for laptops

[gloomy sleet]

i’m not even a woman how is that possible

[gloomy sleet]

why?

[rigid fjord]

even a 3060 > 4060

[gloomy sleet]

that’s just incorrect

[wild solar]

???

3060 over the 4060?

[gloomy sleet]

outside of like the one game that uses a lot of vram maybe

[rigid fjord]

nope, the 12gb vram has way more uses

[gloomy sleet]

3060 is like 5-10% worse

[gloomy sleet]

in gaming it’s a minimal difference

[wild solar]

he aint running ai

[gloomy sleet]

the 4060 will be better in the game he said

[wild solar]

he really dont need 12gb vram

4060 super goobers

[gloomy sleet]

he’s playing roblox and minecraft lol

[wild solar]

fr

[gloomy sleet]

4060 is better then a 6600

[lethal bay]

8GB is still acceptable for 1080p

[wild solar]

gtx 1050 ti is good enough for him

[gloomy sleet]

even 1440p in those 2 games

[rigid fjord]

depends what he's doing on roblox as some of the stuff on that can need the extra vram

[lethal bay]

Why anyone would willingly play on 1080p nowadays though is beyond me

[gloomy sleet]

i run minecraft in 4k on my 4060

[wild solar]

you have to be one real type of special to think roblox will ever you more then 4 gb vram

[gloomy sleet]

the raw power of the 4060 over the 3060 will cancel out the vram difference

[wild solar]

it uses max 4gb ram

[gloomy sleet]

i’ve only ever gotten to 6gb of vram

[wild solar]

let alone vram

[elder quarry]

He’s 12 look on his username

[gloomy sleet]

even stress testing it in roblox it’s at max 6.5gb

[drifting geode]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/365423362340 1

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/187030688360 2

which one then????

[gloomy sleet]

no im not also 2012 was 13 years ago

[drifting geode]

1 or 2

[wild solar]

na he is 8

[wild solar]

2

[gloomy sleet]

4060 build

[wild solar]

2 has better cpu better gpu

[drifting geode]

can u guys chekc it tho

[gloomy sleet]

also i’m pretty sure it has double the storage too

[drifting geode]

click on eit and looka t pictures

[gloomy sleet]

it’s fine

[drifting geode]

bc hes giving a monitor keyboard and headset

im scared ill get scammed or something is wrong with it

[gloomy sleet]

he’s selling that seperately

[drifting geode]

oh is he

so its not toog ood to be true then

[gloomy sleet]

i wouldn’t buy them they sound like absolute ewaste

[lethal bay]

Both builds have like the cheapest mobo they could find in them though lol

[drifting geode]

i dont have monitor or anything only mouse and mouse pad

[gloomy sleet]

a 5600 and 4060 build at £450 is pretty nice

[drifting geode]

and office keyboard

[gloomy sleet]

that doesn’t really matter tbh

[rigid fjord]

no storage capacity mentioned

[drifting geode]

he didnt say what storage tho

[serene python]

i am cooked

[wild solar]

na you good

[drifting geode]

look at picture i see kingston 1tb

[elder quarry]

Nah no way

[lethal bay]

you know, my favorite thing about being scheduled to work at 6am is me getting here at 5:40a and then watching all my coworkers walk in at 6:05a

[median warren]

You're allowed on discord now

[wild solar]

get a fat 2tb hdd tho

[gloomy sleet]

look at the top right

[serene python]

no money :(

[rigid fjord]

so a shit ssd then

[drifting geode]

so it has 1tb ssd

[wild solar]

fr 2020 was like 50 days ago

[drifting geode]

bruh whats good then

[rigid fjord]

shit ssd

[gloomy sleet]

4060 build is better overall

[drifting geode]

the 1000 usd one

im on a budget remember

[wild solar]

get 2 used 1tb from ebay for like 20 bucks

[drifting geode]

i think having a ssd is better than nothing

[wild solar]

oscar

[gloomy sleet]

virus ssd

[serene python]

bold of you to assume i got 20 bucks

[drifting geode]

fr

[wild solar]

get a job gang

[drifting geode]

bills?

[serene python]

no one is willing to hire me :(

[neat flame]

bro it doesnt matter then

both will get more than 100fps

[drifting geode]

fr my shitty laptop could run it

[wild solar]

oscar you are a lost cuase fr
you have a budget stick to it stop looking at more pricie pc

[drifting geode]

i jjsut wanted to get a pc for comfortability and reliability

[wild solar]

you cant have both for 550 usd

[drifting geode]

tf u mean im oooking into my budget

[wild solar]

no you aint gang

[drifting geode]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/187030688360

this is my budget

its 10 over but im offering

[wild solar]

then buy it

[drifting geode]

yeah im debating it

[elder quarry]

Actually 1 year, believe it or not

[gloomy sleet]

get it

[drifting geode]

done

[gloomy sleet]

nice

[drifting geode]

its coming 25th

[dusky zephyr]

whats better
debloat windows before install (like nt-lite)
or after install (power shell scripts)

[rigid fjord]

neither, use window's own add remove features and apps tool in system settings

dumbest thing you can do with windows is use a debloat script

[calm idol]

use the official windows iso and just use winaerotweeker if really needed

[slim slate]

Again, is GPU sag something to think about? Some say its not necessary with supports? GPU's in mind irght now are 5070 Ti and 9070 XT

[dusky zephyr]

i jus use CTT for the services

[rigid fjord]

sag happens when in normal mounting

[rigid fjord]

and end up with a part of windows fucking up, i wouldn't use any script from him

[rigid fjord]

this can be over time tbf

[dusky zephyr]

i have an original iso but every time i install it i have to wait and hour for windows updates

[slim slate]

Yeah it sags on the end. Obviously because of weight. But are brackets/supports needed? The GPU included a simple support, but it doesnt fit in the case. Does sag damage the card? DOes it void guarantee?

[dusky zephyr]

can i get already updated iso (original)

[rigid fjord]

you'd still have to wait for updates on a fair bit of it

[calm idol]

how often do you install windows 🤨

[dusky zephyr]

twice a month

[sinful cobalt]

yes if ur gpu sags too much it can get to the point of not functioning unless its not sagging

[sinful cobalt]

sag does indeed damage the card if too severe

[rigid fjord]

and no, it doesn't void guarantees but, but it can affect functionality after a while, and you can easilly use alternative gpu anti sag stands

[lethal bay]

I try to minimize sag as much as possible, personally. Often times this can be done without additional supports though.

[dusky zephyr]

its okay but atleast i would save time

[rigid fjord]

this is due to you using debloat scripts

[sinful cobalt]

tightly screwing it in should prevent the sagging tbh

[slim slate]

Some refer to 2Jaycents videos about sag and says it does not matter, like, the sag ain't big enough or whatever to damage

[solar moat]

just get win 11IOT

[lethal bay]

Yeah that’s what I do, I raise that card up a bit to help, and then absolutely crank down the screws while still holding it up lol

[sinful cobalt]

I mean do you want ur gpu to be sagging in the first place

[dusky zephyr]

maybe , but i also miss alot

[sinful cobalt]

the screws hold up my 5070ti aero with no visible sag

[lethal bay]

then gg

[brave brook]

when you got spare parts at home, but they are useless 😄 . i am like i reorganized the parts between systems because of the brothers possible need in future for 3900X system. So i am like "let's put these 32GB modules in the machinist X99 board". Except i have a cooler clearance and compatibility issue:

1. https://gelidsolutions.com/product/phantom-black/ has socket 2011 support, but the fns conflict with the patriot viper ram heatsinks (~3-4 fins fromt he bottom of the cooler)
2. won't even think about putting TRUE Copper on it, that would kill it for sure
3. https://www.thermalright.com/product/assassin-x-120-refined-se/ is not compatible with Socket 2011

[rigid fjord]

lego, the best antisag tool 😉

[dusky zephyr]

do u mean ltsc ?? its great ngl but the problem seems like my pc cant handle it , win 10 runs smoother , and i wont use win 10 ltsc again its too outdated

[solar moat]

?

[rigid fjord]

tbf, 3-4 blanking plates under where the gpu screws in on the pice slots, gelps a chunk also

[solar moat]

what is ltsc

[ebon marlin]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-reportedly-shipped-200000-radeon-rx-9070-graphics-cards-already yum

[slim slate]

No ofcourse not, but the GPU has arrived, but no supports 😉

[brave brook]

99% to US /s

[rigid fjord]

when amd uses tmsc instead for die production, ends up with high yields to send out

[lethal bay]

ayyMD

[sinful cobalt]

unless ur gpu and gpu case screws are not a perfect/tight fit u dont need to worry tbh

[ebon marlin]

Lowkey surprised to see a 9070XT in stock

[hybrid acorn]

I run 2 cr1200s on my x99 machinist board

[rigid fjord]

nvidia meanwhile, chose samsung, and has only a 50% yield, with 50% of that still having issues of missing rops

[ebon marlin]

Lol

[hybrid acorn]

Tiny 90mm coolers but I only have some mid spec xeons in it

[brave brook]

2699v3 LOL

[hybrid acorn]

The coolers are about 15 bucks each on AliExpress but have 3 pin fans

[hybrid acorn]

2680v4s

Xeons don't take much to cool

[lethal bay]

I just need AMD to release FSR 4 on RDNA3 and then I’m chillin

[dusky zephyr]

iot means internet of things ig and it just has extended support
ltsc is the debloated one i think u mean , it comes with no bloat or microsoft store

is that what u mean

[ebon marlin]

Yum I could get a Rx 9070xt for 660€

[brave brook]

25W TDP and 4c difference

[solar moat]

IOT is debloated form factory

[hybrid acorn]

Not too much difference then

[dusky zephyr]

its called ltsc

[lethal bay]

debloated/stripped down OS’s only matter for benching

[dusky zephyr]

what about gaming and latency ?

[brave brook]

or i just go with https://www.thermalright.com/product/peerless-assassin-120-mini-black/ and call it a day and have yet another CPU cooler put in the storage 😄

[lethal bay]

regular ass windows install is fine for 99.99% of mfs

[lethal bay]

virtually zero difference

[solar moat]

my non debloated windose 3GB idle/sub 1% cpu usage where discord eats 10% of cpu

[brave brook]

maybe the white version

to go with the 8-SATA port version if 😄

[lethal bay]

Sata lol

[brave brook]

i mean there are 3 versions of the board

[devout oxide]

Is ddr4 udimm a special type or is that just regular ddr4

[brave brook]

one has no VRM fan & 6 SATA ports, second has no VRM fan & 8 SATA ports, third has VRM fan & 9 SATA ports

[dusky zephyr]

hmmm ok , what about the unattended files do these impact

[brave brook]

the latest one is

[lethal bay]

Brother just use your pc

[brave brook]

udimm = unbuffered dimm = regular DDR4

[dusky zephyr]

honestly it just saves time for my lazy ass to remove app one by one

[devout oxide]

Ok thanks. Just bought a pc in a use for a server and it only has 8 gigs

[brave brook]

the special versions will have either ECC, Registered, RDIMM, LRDIMM in specs of board

[devout oxide]

I see I see

For a server do I want more ram or faster ram

Plex

[brave brook]

what CPU

i mean some CPU will have RAM speed limitation anyway

[devout oxide]

I5 7500

M910t specifically

[brave brook]

yeah, that makes no useof anything above DDR4-2400

[devout oxide]

That’s still 4800 MT right?

[brave brook]

but usually the price of DDR4-3200 is same as slower RAM

[brave brook]

no, in DDR4-2400 the 2400 is the MT/s. It is 1200MHz

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/97123/intel-core-i57500-processor-6m-cache-up-to-3-80-ghz/specifications.html

[solar moat]

3200 easy

[dusky zephyr]

on point , u know what the problem is ... that every time i ask these type of questions on discord or reddit i always get different answers

[devout oxide]

Hmmm how much do u think that’d run me on eBay

[solar moat]

yay ddr3 speeds

[devout oxide]

[brave brook]

so just look around and decide on if you ever want to use that RAM in another system and if yes, then get faster RAM, otherwise just buy some 2400/2666 modules and call it a day.

[brave brook]

i bought RAM on ebay only once, and that was cheap registered RAM. For normal systems i just buy new 😄

[devout oxide]

Ok, probably not. But maybe if I every upgrade my server pc

[solar moat]

how much ram you want'

[lethal bay]

in all fairness 99% of people on the internet have no idea wtf they’re taking about

[devout oxide]

It’s a dedicated server and it’s 10 bucks wouldn’t be taking a big loss anyway

[devout oxide]

Idk however much I need, ideally16? Would be funny if I could get 64?

But 8 is fine for like 2 streams

[solar moat]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P3TzK8/crucial-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl22-memory-ct2k16g4dfra32a this is cheap 32GB

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jfqPxr/silicon-power-sp016gblfu320b22-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl22-memory-sp016gblfu320b22 16GB

64GB

[devout oxide]

That’s more than the build

[solar moat]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/s288TW/crucial-pro-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr4-3200-cl22-memory-cp2k32g4dfra32a

[solar moat]

oh your doing that low of buget

just do what i did barter

[devout oxide]

I mean the build was 50 bucks

[solar moat]

i traded gt610 for 16GB of ram before

[devout oxide]

I’m just gonna buy used

I could use a 1060 or a310

But eh

[solar moat]

you can offen get basic ddr4 for free at this point if you ask nice at some computer shops

[devout oxide]

Actually?

[solar moat]

yes

since what use do they have for random mixed low GB sticks

[devout oxide]

Hmmm I’ll probably cop a 4x16?

That’d run me like 50 bucks? I have a shit ton of money I’m just frugal as hell

[frosty ruin]

Dual Channel is faster

[solar moat]

my build cost me like $100 i7 gtx 970+32GB of ram boot ssd +2TB hdd

[devout oxide]

It’s a server I don’t belive I need super fast ram

[solar moat]

its very easy to get buget build if you be smart/fine to take older things

[solar moat]

?

[dusky zephyr]

and thats quite funny how even big youtubers fall for this , i got a problem on fc 25 i was running like shit then i saw inception's guide (popular fc player) and all a can say that i wasted an hour and somthing and i fucked up my device

[frosty ruin]

Oh for a server yeah go for it

[devout oxide]

Also quad channel is fine on ddr4, no?

[solar moat]

what cpu suports quad channel?

[devout oxide]

Oh good point. No idea probably not this one

[solar moat]

i 7700k only 2

[frosty ruin]

It’s fine you’re running on reduced speed tho. Look in the CPU’s data sheet so u can look how much slower they are

[dusky zephyr]

turns out it was a fucking nvidia driver problem

[devout oxide]

Man min is 60 in rn, i5 7, 2tb 8 gig so imma throw in 50 bucks getting more ram and we should be good

[solar moat]

turst me my pc is JANK AF

[devout oxide]

Tbh the stick of ram that comes preinstalled is probably a slower model I’d want to replace

[trim idol]

Good morning folks 🙂

[solar moat]

depends on board there where many T-top boards that clocked better with 2dpc

[devout oxide]

So 4 stick, good or bad idea

[trim idol]

I've done it... I've put my precious 4070 Ti up for sale on ebay.

May it find a good home 🤍

[frosty ruin]

It mainly depends on the memory controller of the cpu

But don’t get me wrong the mb plays a role too

[eternal cloak]

Historically, only the highest-end i7s up until 6th gen and X and XE CPUs did on Intels end, otherwise only Xeons, EPYCs, Opterons and Threadrippers

[devout oxide]

Give it to me for free 🙏

[lethal bay]

Yeah that’s usually the result of following YouTube debloat guides lol. Best case scenario nothing happens, worse case scenario you break your windows install so.

[devout oxide]

Does my 7700x support it

[trim idol]

Sure! You hand me $695 and its yours for free

[eternal cloak]

If it's AMD, no consumer CPU supports it

[solar moat]

r7 7700x is duel channel

[trim idol]

https://tenor.com/view/western-duel-red-dead-redemption-john-marston-gif-22767814

[eternal cloak]

$695 shipping, of course

[trim idol]

Duel channel

[devout oxide]

That’s probably a bit too much. I paid 400 for a 3080 id pay maybe 500?

[trim idol]

lol yes

[devout oxide]

Oh

Guess o need a Xeon. No idea what Xeon are good Thu

[trim idol]

Then I won't sell it to you. They go for $600-700 on ebay on the regular and this is a pristine 3-fan white card that's never been overclocked

[solar moat]

my advice if your wanting to just work dont mix ram and run 1dpc

[devout oxide]

Oh that’s fair. But I was like half joking

[trim idol]

I suspected

[devout oxide]

Why? Ddr4 stable

[solar moat]

in what way?

[devout oxide]

It’s fine it’ll run at the slowest speeds, I’ll just make sure there all the same speed not hard

[trim idol]

Now I have to decide what to do with my waterblocked 2080s... do I put the coolers back on and sell them, or just keep them...

[devout oxide]

In mixing ram I thought

[solar moat]

LOL

[lethal bay]

keep em for funny projects

[solar moat]

its bad on all ram

[eternal cloak]

That's not exactly how that works, but generally you're right
It'll run, but it probably won't run that great

[solar moat]

i was lucky only went form 2666 to 2400

[trim idol]

that's kinda where I'm leaning. They don't sell for that much anymore and taking the water blocks off would be a pita

[devout oxide]

Ok but hear me out, temporarily: 10 bucks for double the ram

[solar moat]

if your needed it
its better then running out

[devout oxide]

Can it be that bad???

[lethal bay]

folding rig time

[eternal cloak]

Get an NZXT G18? I think it was? AIO it and sell it for $400 as a hybrid card

[solar moat]

just a pain

[trim idol]

that's what they're currently in. Its a 44 core xeon system with those two cards

[devout oxide]

U think I should just stick it out with the 8 gig until I can afford 4 x 16?

[eternal cloak]

NZXT G12, there we go

https://nzxt.com/product/kraken-g12

They stopped making these with Ampere, kinda a shame

[jagged hazel]

Good morning

[lethal bay]

I thought those stopped with pascal ngl lol

[dusky zephyr]

good evening

[jagged hazel]

[devout oxide]

This good?

Should I just rip the band aid off and go for it

Is this build even worth 85 bucks

[eternal cloak]

The ones that still exist are horrendously expensive, the G12 was $20 to $30

[hybrid acorn]

That's pretty insane if that's the full 64

[devout oxide]

The ram looks weird

Idk if I trust it lmao

[jagged hazel]

Yeah...

What's nemix

[devout oxide]

Idk

[rigid fjord]

ecc ddr4, so ram you normally find in a server

[jagged hazel]

That's what it is

[devout oxide]

How do u know it’s ecc

[jagged hazel]

Because of the way it is

[devout oxide]

Does that mean it’s incompatible with my mobo

[lethal bay]

silly

iirc they weren’t even that good tbh

[sleek ibex]

[devout oxide]

Wait it’s still udimm Thu can I use it

Just with ecc disabled???

There’s some nice cheap Hynix I might cop but only at 32 gigs

[random gyro]

15k 300gb hdd

[jagged hazel]

:3

[jagged hazel]

I mean i think you can

[serene python]

having a single 256gb ssd might be a mistake

[jagged hazel]

[random gyro]

I think choosing a 15000 rpm 300gb hdd might be a w

[jagged hazel]

I just heard a motorcycle bang through atleast 4 gears on the highway

[devout oxide]

Holy how fast is that

[jagged hazel]

Given it's from 2008

At most like 200 MB/S if you are lucky

[devout oxide]

Oh that’s shit

I mean it’s not terrible but still

[jagged hazel]

Its pretty bad

Ssd ftw

[devout oxide]

I just realized my downloads are gonna be so heavily bottle necked by having an hdd, doesn’t that mean at most I’ll be able to do 50MB/s for a 7200 drive even if my internet is faster

[stark owl]

Quick question. 4080 super or 5080 for gaming performance and 3d rendering? (4080 supers have sky rocketed to like 1500+ GBP in england)

[solar river]

r these deals good (its in sgd btw) i always kinda hated on prebuilts but to me these r looking kinda worth it + 3 year warranty

[devout oxide]

should I look into an ssd for download caching

[jagged hazel]

Not the worst deal ever from first look

[solar river]

i havent been in the pc hobby for like awhile awhile so i know nothing abt the new gpus and stuff, they got 5070s too if those are better

they seem to be 12gb tho versus these which are 16gb

[stark owl]

I think im gonna go for a MSI GeForce RTX 5080 16G VENTUS 3X OC WHITE

White 4080 supers in the uk are like 2k plus its crazy

[solar river]

looking at the pricing for buying parts and building myself it actually seems cheaper but that may partially be cause of singapores horrible market

[jagged hazel]

Yeah

[solar river]

like 9070xt models on carou are arnd 1300

[devout oxide]

Why is everything god damn ecc

[latent pasture]

buy the cheapest 4080 and a $5 can of white paint

[devout oxide]

Chat will I need more than 32 gigs? Assume 3 streams, a pihole, all at 1080p

[stark owl]

hahaha

[latent pasture]

the shround is just plastic, should be fine to paint over it

[random gyro]

97mb/s

[verbal prawn]

Where can you get a 5 dollar can of paint these days

[jagged hazel]

I can hardly find 9070 XT cards in stock now lol but for the prices of things it seems ight but it's up to you if you want to go that route

I would personally choose the second of the 3

[verbal prawn]

Since when did it become 4:24 am

[jagged hazel]

Who knows

[stark owl]

Whats the perfect spot for Transfer Speeds and CAS latency with DDR5 ram?

[grizzled frost]

on am5 it’s 6000mt/s cl30

[stark owl]

On lga1700?

[verbal prawn]

TBH just get 6400 cl32

[devout oxide]

10600k for 90 bucks is good?

[latent pasture]

for both

[verbal prawn]

Or 6000 cp30

[latent pasture]

in usa no
assuming cuz ur saying bucks

[verbal prawn]

Doesn't matter

[solar river]

alr tysm

[devout oxide]

Ok so technically my cpu listed ram is only 2666 but like don’t manufacturers kinda go on the lower end? Like and says 5600 only and it’s fine up to 6400

[jagged hazel]

Yee but still do your own research especially into their warranty if you take that into consideration

[latent pasture]

the listed speed is just the jedec they test

[verbal prawn]

^

[devout oxide]

Ok so what speed do we think I can actually go for?

Also does oc help servers at all or no

[latent pasture]

u dont gain much past 6000 cl30 or 28

[verbal prawn]

Not really

[devout oxide]

Ddr4

[stark owl]

6600-cl32?

[devout oxide]

Last time I tried oc, I had to rma my gpu

[jagged hazel]

@solar river like for example i just looked and the base one ships with unactivated windows 11 atleast in usa

Stuff like that

[solar river]

yea, they're like extremely well known in sg and highly used so i think their warranty is pretty good, onsite pickup for 1 year then 2 years after free repair

[devout oxide]

Lowkey the ddr4 16 gig stick prices make a lot of sense, double 8gig sticks but it still pains me how expensive they are

[jagged hazel]

That's good

[stark owl]

Can I link my parts list in here or is it against the rules?

[devout oxide]

Do we think theirs individual limitations, like would 2x 32 be better actually since dual or should I shoot for 4 x 16

[solar river]

im going piece by piece to see how much better self building would be atm, i found a 9070xt pure for 1050 and it fits a white aesthetic i want

[grizzled frost]

depends on what you’re using the server for

[plush wren]

1050 for a 9070 xt 😭

[devout oxide]

Jelly fu

[solar river]

sgd 😭

[latent pasture]

just get the cheapest 9070xt
even the worst cooler for it does like 50celsius on 350w

[grizzled frost]

then no

[devout oxide]

Transcoding cause I’m to dumb to get the right kind of content

[plush wren]

gg

https://tenor.com/view/sad-emoji-sad-emoji-emoji-stare-disgust-gif-405076546600269050

[latent pasture]

all ridiculously overbuilt
probably why they arent keeping msrp lmao

[stark owl]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/InukPc/saved/bdqyVn Anything I should change? (Budget isn't an issue when it comes to white tax etc)

[latent pasture]

if budget isnt an issue then why am i not seeing 5090

[stark owl]

Cause like to a degree

lmao

[plush wren]

and that is

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/878018564030890038/996275659347337316/878724611720740925-1.gif

[stark owl]

3k GBP is where it is now. Might wait till some prices drop

[latent pasture]

you can easily fit a full white build for cheaper lol

[devout oxide]

If I were to buy a gpu for this server, would series matter more than actual card, like for features?

[jagged hazel]

Depends on the use of the server

[devout oxide]

Fair

[cunning escarp]

is this a good deal multiply by 3 to find price in usd

[grizzled frost]

psu is way over speced

[jagged hazel]

795 usd

[cunning escarp]

no

735 usd

is it good

prices are RLLY high in kuwait

[grizzled frost]

yes, good price

[jagged hazel]

I mean it's alright

For the specs and extras it's good

You might find yourself upgrading your ram down the road

[latent pasture]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/R69dv4

[jagged hazel]

And storage lol

[stark owl]

Is 14900k stability issues fixed yet? Or best to stick with a 14700k

[grizzled frost]

yes, with the modern microcode updates

still guzzles power and is less performant than the 9800x3d

[jagged hazel]

True

[latent pasture]

not exactly identical parts but just so u can have an idea of what montech xr with 360mm aio looks like

[grizzled frost]

(less performant in gaming)

[jagged hazel]

Yeah

I got a r 7 9700X and it's good for me

[grizzled frost]

in all core workloads you’d be better off with a 9950x3d

[stark owl]

I have 2 months before all the parts will be bought to convince myself to swap intel for ryzen

[jagged hazel]

Is there any reason to go for intel in cpu currently rather than ryzen?

[latent pasture]

some are cheap

[stark owl]

No

[solar river]

out of like a 9070xt, 9070, 5070ti, 5070 and the 7900xtx what would prob be the best buy rn iyo

[stark owl]

But like I can get an I7 14700k for like 200gbp

[latent pasture]

from what info we have rn the next gen intel will be the same cpu but upgraded the AI tile
AI tile that is used for who knows fking what

[grizzled frost]

do you care about ray tracing or frame gen?

[latent pasture]

what prices

[limber bane]

just wondering if 50c normal for a laptop cpu at idle?
only chrome with 30 tabs and discord is running
cpu usage is like 5-10%
50c normal?

[solar river]

ray tracing maybe, idrc abt frame gen

[grizzled frost]

yes

[stark owl]

Will the 5080 out perform a 4080 super?

[limber bane]

alrighty

[solar river]

give me a minute or two ill look up rq

[grizzled frost]

yes

[stark owl]

Okok

[jagged hazel]

Absolutely might even be good temps

[limber bane]

i mean, i never had overheating issues with my laptop until last week, my cpu hits 90c while playing cs2

guess it needs cleaning now

[stark owl]

Just checking a 5080 and a 360mm aio would fit into a H9 flow (I saw some big 4080 supers barely fit)

[jagged hazel]

Depends on how old might need new paste but yeah a cleaning would probably help too

[limber bane]

its like 6 months old, ryzen 7 7435hs and rtx 4070

[latent pasture]

also dont forget last gen cards whichm might be on sale
5070 performs 0-2% better than 4070super so look at prices of that
nad 9070xt performs a tiny bit better than 7900xt no 2nd x so look at prices of that too

[grizzled frost]

that's kinda just what laptops are like a lot of the time

[jagged hazel]

Yeah

[grizzled frost]

it's pretty much impossible to fit adequate cooling solutions in a laptop for modern chip TDPs

[latent pasture]

i have my laptop configured to cap at 11w even tho its built to do 25w boost 15w sustain

[limber bane]

my last laptop got its touchpad chipped off due to overheating so yeah, trying to kinda void it

[limber bane]

truee

[jagged hazel]

But you could look and see if it needs cleaning. I clean out my filters atleast once in 3 months if not more

[latent pasture]

msi heard this and just went lolp well just limit it to 15w cpu and 40w gpu

[limber bane]

my enviornment is kinda dusty, the dust filters at the bottom are absolutely clogged every week

i have to clean it every fkn day to not choke it

[solar moat]

what cpu?

[grizzled frost]

that's why a 4090 can have less performance than a 4070

[latent pasture]

can u do something abt the environment
do u live beside a dirt road

[jagged hazel]

Then yeah thst might be consideration. Also why is it that dusty

[devout oxide]

I5 7500

[latent pasture]

so u dont have to clean it everyday, clean the environment once in a long while

[solar moat]

that offen can take 3600

[devout oxide]

Oh nice

[limber bane]

theres a building being built right beside mine, so theres so much of that dust coming into my house through the windows

i live on the 24th floor and it manages to come this far up

[jagged hazel]

Oh

[latent pasture]

clos window

[jagged hazel]

Hi sim

[tidal geyser]

Not on what ever H board that OEM prebuilt has

[limber bane]

yeahh xD

[tidal geyser]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/878018564030890038/996275659347337316/878724611720740925-1.gif

[solar moat]

locked mobo cant ram oc at all sad

[latent pasture]

the air ur getting is evidently not fresh anyway

[tidal geyser]

I do not think he can even set xmp

[limber bane]

someone suggested me to undervolt my cpu

[solar moat]

who needs xmp

[limber bane]

is it a good idea?

[tidal geyser]

Well you do not need to see but it's nice to have

[latent pasture]

yes
if u dont wanna then u can just put a no effort power limit

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-kiss-lunaistabby-kitty-cute-cat-gif-702362695713301435

[slim slate]

Any suggestions for nice looking fans for a white H6 Flow? I need the bottom fans (2x140) and a 120mm in the back. Should obviously replace the 3x140mm in front and 3x120 in top in the end as well. Lian Li INF fans are sooo expensive

[limber bane]

shouldnt affect my gaming performance right? I dont rlly play heavy ass games anyways, cs2, minecraft, and msfs

[solar river]

9070xt pure: 1050
9070 pure: 975
5070 aero: 1100
7900xtx: 1200
all are in sgd

[solar moat]

i seen 7600k do 2300mhz

but idk how stable that be

[latent pasture]

7435hs is 6nm 8c16t zen3 should be same as 6800h before it got renamed
amd scales pretty well at low power imo do like 25 or 30

[limber bane]

oh yeah, its just 6800h named as zen3+ without an igpu

ima limit the watts to 25 then

ty for the help man!

[latent pasture]

i think theres 3rd party apps that let u undervolt if ur laptops default control software doesnt allow

but 🤷‍♂️ do at ur own risk

[limber bane]

theres an option in the bios to undervolt

but ive never wanted to it cuz its hella risky

dont wanna end up in a no display situation

[grizzled frost]

undervolt is relatively safe, it's hard to damage hardware that way

[tidal geyser]

Risky?

[grizzled frost]

it's overvolting that can cause serious damage

[limber bane]

ohhh

kinda confused right there ig

[grizzled frost]

undervolting at worse can cause instability, but nothing permanent

[limber bane]

this shi is at 50c while pushing 9w

[grizzled frost]

if it causes instability, you just back off on the undervolt a bit

[limber bane]

ohhh

[latent pasture]

if the undervolt is bad youll just crash on stuff so just reset it to before
find the lowest you can go that doesnt crash ur shit

[limber bane]

wasnt rlly aware about that

[limber bane]

alright got it

might give it a shot

[frail delta]

Wow, fantastic reviews

[grizzled frost]

overclocking/undervolting is a lot of "change one setting by 1 tiny amount" then check stability, then repeat till unstable, then back off a little

time consuming, but can be well worth it at times

[limber bane]

ohhh right! got it

[limber bane]

mhm

[inner veldt]

Asus ROG Strix X870E-E or MSI X870E Carbon?

[latent pasture]

why x870e

[inner veldt]

My friend is gonna buy for his 9950X3D

[latent pasture]

do u need the like 7 nvme ssds they provide

a good b650/e/b850 is fine

[grizzled frost]

or 10gbe native

wait they both have 10gbe i think

[inner veldt]

I dont know, he just asks which one to pick between both

[tidal geyser]

B650 eagle ax is plenty

[latent pasture]

isnt that even more incentive to save more on other parts bc theyre spending so much on cpu

[inner veldt]

He is rolling with 5090

[tidal geyser]

Then you find out he only has a 100Mb switch

No but probs using 1GbE

[grizzled frost]

or he has a 10gbe switch, but has cat4 run in his walls

or worse, coax

[tidal geyser]

Cat 5 non e is a chance of having

[grizzled frost]

i had supposed cat5e run in my walls, but it refused to run anything over 100mbps

ran my own cat6a to fix that problem

[tidal geyser]

Should have ran fiber

No real cable limit

[grizzled frost]

none of my devices in my office use fiber

i do have a fiber link to my server rack though

[tidal geyser]

Make em

[latent pasture]

nah theyll be using the built in realtek amd wifi

[inland canopy]

is it useful to undervolt on ryzen

[grizzled frost]

SFF PC, no room for a 10gbe/10g sfp+ nic

[tidal geyser]

Can be

[latent pasture]

its useful on anything
its literally free perf

[inland canopy]

on a laptop
i kinda want better thermals tbh

[tidal geyser]

Does it have usb 4?

[grizzled frost]

nope

[tidal geyser]

What temps

[latent pasture]

assuming ur cpu isnt at the bare minimum passing bin

[grizzled frost]

it has 2.5gbe, and that's what i'm running rn

given i have a <1g isp link, i'm doing fine

[tidal geyser]

Holy shit

[latent pasture]

its even more important the smaller the device is
every bit of power and thermal headroom counts

[grizzled frost]

i don't do big data transfers to my rack anyways

[inland canopy]

Its like 40-60 when just watching yt or sits at 50 when doing regular things (ryzen 4500U)

[tidal geyser]

Yeah fair

Copper is still the go to

[tidal geyser]

Those are low temps

Like really low temps

[inland canopy]

Damn, i thought its useless on mobile ryzen because of their efficiency

[limber bane]

same temps for me, ryzen 7 7435hs

[tidal geyser]

Normal

[limber bane]

yeahh

goes to 90c when playing games tho

[inland canopy]

I want lower
so it doesnt burn my lap

[tidal geyser]

Pretty good

[latent pasture]

45c rn

[tidal geyser]

Put it on performance mode or something to fet the fans faster

[inland canopy]

Thats pretty good

[inland canopy]

Thinkpad fan utility is like doomed rn

[limber bane]

i js put it to custom mode with balanced preset and 100% fans when i wanna cool it down

[inland canopy]

Doesnt work on my t14

[tidal geyser]

Rip

[inland canopy]

fr

[limber bane]

try legion toolkit

[inland canopy]

i assume this is for legion laptops

idk if itll work

[limber bane]

nope, LOQ, Legion and thinkpads

[inland canopy]

damn

[limber bane]

i use it with my LOQ, much better than lenovo vantage

[inland canopy]

vantage is the worst piece of software i ever laid my eyes on

Id rather use a dumpster software than vantage

[limber bane]

frr, so much unwanted shit and heavy

i still gotta keep it to monitor my warranty sometimes

[inland canopy]

the shit takes forever to load AND barely has useful functionality besides the battery limit feature

[wooden canyon]

could anyone help me find a vintage hard drive reader for my HDD

[limber bane]

legion toolkit has ALL of that, including the battery limit thing

[tidal geyser]

Pic of the hdd

[grizzled frost]

what's the interface?

[tidal geyser]

The port of the hdd

[wooden canyon]

it's a hitachi ic25n060atmr04-0

[brave brook]

well this was damn anticlimatic. Manged to put in all 4x32GB modules in the Machinist X99 board. And it doesn't like them. Oh well

[inland canopy]

gotta try it

[brave brook]

RIP

[tidal geyser]

Dat ide

[inland canopy]

too bad no offense

[inland canopy]

rip

[limber bane]

any generic PATA to USB hub will work

[limber bane]

mhm

[latent pasture]

baleen whale aah port

[limber bane]

hitachi be making the most random shi of all times

[inland canopy]

bro got a hard drive from the dark ages

[limber bane]

all my air conditioners are from hitachi, here they be making hdd too XD