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Ayoub Computers is just a tech retailer here
š That explains it
Ayoub sounds like keeb spam
It's a name š
Yeah, ig
Also i can't use binbows 11 cuz games break there
Find something like a 1050ti for 20 pounds or something
Mm yes, bri'ish
only makes sense for a gen 5 drive...
Oh wait you wrote euros not pounds
I don't have bri'ish money
adequate for most drives, if you don't have a heatsink on the mobo
Also i have 0.15⬠rn lol
I know that, but again, it's more aesthetics than actual usability
If I have a spare 28 US just lying around I am sure as shit not going to buy an M.2 cooler immediately
For 20 US more I can get a decent Full ATX case with 4 RGB fans
Or upgrade my cpu cooler depending on what the guy I am buying from puts in the machine
Save up two extra euros
Buy a cheap pair of socks for like a euro or something
Exchange the rest into coins
Mug someone with your sock mace
Wtf lol
I rather wait until windows 10 gets axed, and computers start washing up at ewaste, then sell em
Lmao fair enough
Why have I never heard of the CoolerMaster 622 cooler before actually looking on their website?
PROBABLY:
- because its ass
- because noone uses it
Is it that ass?
What do you think of the hyper 212?
I just upgraded from a hyper 212 RGB black edition to the new halo fan one
Think the halo fan looks much better personally and Iāve never had a problem with cooling on my old rgb 212
eh theyre the same cooler still
Basically the same
Slightly improved contact on the new one though from what I saw underneath, the copper was exposed on the new one, on the old rgb black edition the whole contact area was zinc coated
I wouldāve gone peerless assassin, I wanted to actually buy the fans look so mid
bruh u couldve just bought an rgb fan then
Technically yes but Iām gonna use the old 212 RGB black edition in another build someday probably
fair enough
Hell
Plus Iām only cooling a 12700f so nothing crazy for the 212
what is it now like 10-15 year old design
Yeah 15 ish
theres no more improvements to make
14 15 i cant remmeber
4 heatpipes and 50-60 fins
theres nothing to do anymore other than drive down cost
It was perfect when it was first made and didnāt really need to be changed.
uynless theres a major discovery in thermodynamics
just LN2 cool fr
Cost has gone up due to inflation and itās arguably ābad valueā compared to other newer entries to the budget aircooler market like the peerless assassin
cm has other new hyper212 models in the $20 market theyre not that dumb
Main reasons I got it were
-
Iāve used other 212ās before and theyāve been somewhat easy to install and reliable.
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Accessibility, theyāre usually in stock at every local Best Buy and easy to pick up same day
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I wanted a halo fan because it matches the other fans in the case, also because of a reflection on my wall from the 212 RGB black edition. I have a projector pointed at the wall next to my pc for watching movies in bed and it was annoying.
I had to turn off rgb on my pc to be able to use the projector and not be extremely distracted and annoyed
The black edition rgb had a center lit slightly transparent blade fan instead of a halo
?
Anyways y'all were wrong
Nobody should be buying ryzen 5 in 2025
???
Are you aware that Ryzen 5 7600 exists
Which is also a Ryzen 5
It's a Ryzen 5 7400f
He is just... Wrong
Sorry, Iām talking about 5000 series
You are still wrong
5000 series is cooked in 2025 if buying anything for a new build
You are just wrong, people have budgets. Also, 5700x3d = 7600 so even more wrong
Even a 5700 is mid compared to any decent 7000 or 9000 series
5700 is worse than 5600
5700 is worse
add the X in the back and its not
Because AMD misleading naming
5700 is based on cezanne instead of vermeer like 5600
Cezanne is the same one as 5600G and is monolithic
I think gamers spend way too much on cpu and not enough on GPU. Most of the builds I see should go down a tier of cpu if it would save them the money to go a tier up on GPU.
A 13600f will not even bottleneck a 5090 at 4k in most graphical limited games.
It's a wrong take, nothing hot about it
I can say "climate change isn't real"
It won't be a hot take, it'll just be flat out wrong
Its about as cold as the arctic circle
Mostly graphical I believe
7500f = 5700x3d
Which is heating up bit by bit thanks to people who believe in that cold take
Real
Reeeeee
Really depends what ur playing
Directly proportional take; The more that people believe in the cold take, the hotter it gets
Fortnite
if ur just gaming tho, 14900k is overkill for a gaming build
Still, a modern (5000 series or newer for ryzen or 12th gen or newer for Intel) i5 or ryzen 5 will be able to play most graphical based games at the resolution the GPU was āintendedā to play them at.
If you wanna play cs2 with a 5090 at 1080p you can but letās be real, anything above a 4080 is probably for 4k where the cpu is less of a bottleneck.
What's your gpu?
Speedrunning world collapse
Peak aio aesthetics
Ew
This tells me youāre probably playing at the wrong resolution for your GPU.
That is a rare setup where performance mode makes sense
No u
Weāre not talking about any hardware that old though
Also your cpu is definitely a bottleneck there.
Most people shouldn't be using performance mode, it's badly named
2160p at minimum bro
It probably defaulted to upscaling
3d res to 100%?
Ice glaciers melt speedrun any% glitchless
Weāre doing a pretty decent run rn
optimal speedrun
Does anyone know why I get so high ping on forrnite but not any other games?
You couldve just sent the pcpp link
We got like 250ish years of progress in only 120-130
we did the antarctic circle skip too
reall
Look at 1910 compared to now
No that would have sent you to your pc part picker
We're getting the world record most definitely
No
Mars has nothing on humans
Well is it good or bad
The one at the top, not the one on searchbar
Mars took 700 years to become uninhabitable after making engines
We're not even 300 years in and we have double their progress
Can someone help me ? My only HDMI port just decided to not work anymore. It doesn't work unless shown in the video and its stuck at a single 640x480 resolution
You should be on ddr5 if building this new
Windows even refuses to recognise the monitor, it isn't the cable or the monitor, since my T470s works with it
How can I know if my monitor has a bad screen or is a trash monitor?
Turn off the system, plug in the hdmi, turn on the system
Already tried that
Can you shut up
he is right
What's the use for the pc?
building a ddr4 system rn isnt a good choice
Change this to the asus prime B760M A-AX board and a set of ddr5 6000 CL30 and youāll be golden
He isn't. With a budget of like 700, how do you plan on going ddr5?
Didn't work, also tried setting it to HDMI 1.4 from 2.0 which didn't work , neither did upgrading the BIOS
I really don't wanna return this laptop
The boards are almost as cheap as ddr4?
You must go intel with this one
Just the cou and gpu are 700 dollars btw
Doesnāt matter what the budget is, the ram might be slightly more but that doesnāt change the fact that DDR4 for a new build in 2025 is a bad idea.
I mean you cry? It won't help, but hey
Shouldnāt be building DDR4 systems new in 2025.
If you want to go ddr5 with a 700$ budget you need to go Intel
Explain yourself
Heās already going Intel, the cpu on his list is already a 12700kf which supports ddr5. All heād need to do is change the board and ram.
Okay?
We can change that
what the fuck are you talking about
You asked how
Are you dumb?
you are literally saying a whole lot of nothing
Thanks much better
Are you
they are using intel
Try reading better
Iām not saying you are, Iām just asking if you are.
Try thinking better
Maybe listen to someone who has recently built a 12th gen Intel system on ddr5?
cough me cough
This sounds like y'all yesterday about the 5500
its not smart to build ddr4 systems new, ddr4 is getting older and the chip likes better speeds for ram
I have. Iām running a 12700f and 32gb of DDR5 6000 CL30. Works great and wasnāt that much more than DDR4.
That was also correct
Literally sent a source proving y'all wrong
the architecture is different, like 20 other people said this to you
And y'all provided no source
Some people just think theyāre correct all the time. Canāt argue with those kind of people.
Yes we did
Performance wise, they are very similar.
you cited fucking USERBENCHMARK
Never sent a benchmark
Rong
Ah man. Dang it
Y'all actually can't read. Y'all said it's 2v1, I said I'll get userbenchmark and then really get outnumbered
I still don't understand why the argument even happened
You, floppa, others, and even others from YouTube seemed to suggest that the 5500 was just a stripped down 5700G (iGPU disabled, less cache, etc)
5500 is a garbage tier CPU
Yes, donāt listen to a thing silver says by the way. Get the board I said and the ram spec I said. I have a system myself with a 12700f and DDR5 so I would know.
I'm talking performance wise, dc what's the architecture
It's roughly the same as the 3600
... This is going to shock you, the architecture affects the performance
Yes. It's also 2025.
Userbenchmark isnt a source, its outright fake news
This is going to shock you: I sent a benchmark
It's decent for someone on a really tight budget
Seems to me like silver is just argumentative and uninformed. 
3600
That works too
You haven't sent a single benchmark
Honestly at that level you should be looking used
Incapable of accepting you are wrong
Have u tried that
Userbenchmark is actually extremely biased and dumb to use.
That's what I meant
Me: has a source showing fps
You: has a theoretical source with no real world performance comparision
If you can afford a 5500 new then just buy a 5600/X used
when the whole chat is disagreeing with you, i think you may be wrong, just a thought
A benchmark for what? Why building a ddr4 system in 2025 is bad if you donāt have to? You should definitely go back to whatever computer classes you went to and get your money back.
Fps in what, with what gpu
A benchmark showing performance difference between 5500 and 3600.
Is tech city a good benchmark?
And not 5600?
you just literally proved yourself wrong
When did that EVER come up? Kek
The argument was 5500 Vs 3600
Sometimes?
I never said anything about a 3600 youāre thinking of the wrong person buddy.
What should I use then, other than techpowerup
Comparing a 3600 doesn't make sense
Here
Why not just compare it to a Pentium. 4.
Here
I'd say a normal cpu for 2025 should have 30k score in passmark
Here
Any sites or text based answers?
The argument was definitely 5500 vs 3600
Silver, you just tried to argue that DDR4 was better than DDR5 on an Intel 12th gen new build in 2025. I donāt think anything you say will ever be taken seriously again by anyone.
tho likely i5 12600KF with price under $150 is best buy cpu atm
Fair enough
I found a 12400f for my girlfriends pc for $110 lol
I don't think mister allergic to sources will ever be taken seriously
Prove to me why he shouldnāt get ddr5 then. Please. Iām waiting oh wise one. Enlighten us with your great knowledge.
I know
I never talked about this specific case, I'm talking about the general idea of ddr4 being useless
Why the hell are you suggesting to get a 3600 when you already did make a better point by saying you'll want to go intel if you realistically want to go DDR5 on the cheap?
I am just saying it's probably the better option of the two
I never said you should go intel...
Oh boy
DDR4 for a NEW build in 2025 that has the option of being DDR5 (12th, 13th, 14th and gen Intel) IS useless. 100% useless in a NEW build for any of those generations because of the PROVEN performance increases from DDR5 while only costing slightly more.
I never talked about intel
Now if you say Iām wrong about that then youāre clearly not reliable and spreading misinformation.
That's me stating a fact, I wasn't suggesting it. Y'all really lack reading skills
Oh my god hahaha
Like the userbenchmark comment smh
Do thoughts bounce around your head like the dvd icon
If you are even old enough to know what that is
Do you have something inside your head
If you were suggesting that he entirely change his cpu choice when it wouldāve been easy to gain performance by simply switching the board to a ddr5 board and ram kit then you are absolutely mental.
In tc1 we trust to always be chaos
You don't have one mate
Not ur mate, iād rather eat shit
Can you send this in image form my discord is too old to handle forwards
@honest gulch reply to this bro I wanna see you cook yourself more
It's a list, not yet owned. It's like 5 min tops to remake one
Update it
Do that
I don't like the new UI
When will we start banning users that consistently spread misinformation and ignorance here?
Thank ya
that test doesn't seem fair with 4090 chocking cpus
Mods dont, weāve had this type of person hundreds of times and it takes many months for them to slip up and say a slur or something then get banned
Still incapable of reading I see
Itās the best way to ensure the variables are isolated and the cpu is allowed to reach its full potential.
No u
Are you?
Ooooo I'm so insulted
Skrrrrah
Pah pah pah pah pah
Skibidi pah pah
I disagree. I think it would be more appropriate to pair cpu with similar perf gpu
on gyat, this kai cenat fanum tax kinda mid fr
u sHojlD bUYy DdR4 oN an inTeL bUiLd iN 2025 hUrRrrRrr š¤”
Straw man argument, my favorite
Itās okay, I speak fluent stupid, Iāll translate for everyone else
Only in Ohio
I mean yeah, depends what gen we're talking
12th gen is probably not worth buying DDR5* for
12600 is like the cutoff for ddr4 imo
Sounds about right, ye
if you don't think I'm correct, what would happen if you paired 4090 with core 2 duo?
Future upgrades, lga1700 has good upgrade path
As a 12600K owner, can confirm. I'm very close to doubling my RAM (32-64GB, just for lulz / funsies) because DDR4 is [relatively] cheap now.
If I'm not correct, then try using a 5090 with a Pentium 2! Nerrrrtt
Im getting 128gb for the funnyy
I don't know, I'd rather just have fun and buy into capacity rather than bandwidth if you have 12th gen like Kirashi did
128GB is what, $250?
caricating so you get the point. If you choke the cpu it will perform even worse
Oh yeah? Well I'm getting 4200 Jigawatts of pure performance boosting Garlic bread power!
Gosh i want some garlic bread
I had a 12700f that I pulled from my old build to carry over to a new system and a ddr5 board was the same price as ddr4, 6000mhz CL30 ram was only about $40 more than a ddr4 3200 CL16 kit.
being a vampire would be worst nightmare, 0 garlic bread
Oh yes, it's obviously cheap
If only "$40 more" didn't equal "double to price"
$40 comparatively isnāt that bad for the ability to throw a 14700 in the system in the future and not be bottlenecked by DDR4 instead of having to swap mobo and ram at that time as well.
You're not 'bottlenecked' lmfao
It'd be like lactose intolerance
oh god
Yeah you'll be in critical condition, but fuck it, worth it every few weeks
true
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rJkgXL
128GB for $215, so good and tasty
Iām saying a 14700 would lose performance on ddr4 compared to ddr5. Since I plan on upgrading to either a 14700 or 14900 eventually I went ddr5 on my 12700f because it was the smart choice.
this gonna go hard with google chrome
Idk why you're focusing on non-K SKUs anyway, they perform the same as the K-SKUs right below them and cost more lmao
Probably not much difference on a 12700 from ddr4 to ddr5 but the flexibility in the future is better. Thatās why you shouldnāt use ddr4 on a 12th, 13th, or 14th gen Intel build in 2025
or salt (some versions)
Lol
https://www.vampires.com/safety-from-vampires/
Have some 2009 laughs
It's the top result for me when I google 'Vampire salt' lmfao
only reason i say salt is because salt is usually used for evil shit š»š»
french fries are mean, agreed
Why the fuck have A2000 6GBs gone up in price
order unsalted so the poor 16 year old frycook has to make a new batch for you
holy shit i didnāt even know i had this
You used to be able to get them B-grade for $200, now they're $450+, tf
i just now opened this pc up and i find a 2tb drive i didnāt even know i had
crazy
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wVDMmC
Very good build
Part List - Intel Core i3-14100F, GeForce RTX 3050 8GB, Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower
i write my notes in HTML we not the same
i use⦠paper šØ
Damn I knew undervolted 9070xt was touching base 5070ti perf but I didn't know it was actually around base 5080perf
Same - pen & paper, or markdown if / when I digitize.
DDR4 vs DDR5 on a 12400f. Looks to me like a solid boost to performance for not much money.
DDR4 on Intel 12th, 13th, and 14th gen is dumb in 2025.
https://youtu.be/Ce74z8N6yas?si=aBZ2VBlZsE4HLsht
i5 12400F - DDR4 vs DDR5 Ram - š® - 10 Games Tested - ft. RTX 4070 Ti Super
=======(MY PC SPEC)=======
DDR4 Ram Setup
ā Mobo: Asus Rog Strix B660-A Gaming Wifi D4
Not Same: https://amzn.to/3RkBE3C
ā Intel Core i5 12400f Processor
https://amzn.to/3HxmyDD
ā Ram: XPG Spectrix D50 4x8GB DDR4 3600mhz Ram
https://amzn.to/46QicS5
DDR5 Ram Setup
ā...
Static go bzzzt
acting like kitty = 1000w psu
Carpet
its my fucking bed you swine
Still cloth
I build pcs on carpeted floors with fluffy socks and giant fluffy hoodies
Lol it's your gpu man do what u want but calling me a swine for talking about static is wild
is satire dead
Yes you swine
Dope
put cpu on bed
the cpu craves static electricity
Feed it
no
awwww, cover it with blanky
Become static
Nah bro fps boost fr
NO
of course :3
Give it a shake too
YES
no thatād wake it up
we meet again
Rub it with both ends of blanket to put it back to sleep
I really can't afford to go back home to my cat nervous and in bad mood
Tf is the cat gonna mug u bro
Intel 12400f + 4070ti super
Hogwarts legacy:
DDR4 Avg: 71
DDR5 Avg: 88
RDR2:
DDR4 Avg: 130
DDR5 Avg: 143
Spider man remastered:
DDR4 Avg: 111
DDR5 Avg: 138
God of war:
DDR4 Avg: 159
DDR5 Avg: 212
Cyberpunk:
DDR4 Avg: 136
DDR5 Avg: 157
CS2
DDR4 Avg: 201
DDR5 Avg: 246
Please tell me again how building a DDR4 12th gen Intel system is a good idea in 2025.
ok
what ram?
DDR4 3600 vs DDR5 6000
be lucky to have a 4070 ti and not a 1070 
ah thats why shit ddr4 ram
By the fact you can get a decent 16GB kit without being shanked in performance for $20
Stop coping, holy shit
Who u going back n forth with bruv
ill shank you anyway dw
me (i dunno who he is)
did you set gear 1 for 3600 ram?
Itās not that much more for DDR5 for a potential 20%+ performance increase in some games.
Is that his gpu or the gpu from the video he sent
100% the ddr4 config is shit
since auto will be gear 2
Yeah it's only quadruple the price
'Ever heard of budgets'
i5 12400F - DDR4 vs DDR5 Ram - š® - 10 Games Tested - ft. RTX 4070 Ti Super
=======(MY PC SPEC)=======
DDR4 Ram Setup
ā Mobo: Asus Rog Strix B660-A Gaming Wifi D4
Not Same: https://amzn.to/3RkBE3C
ā Intel Core i5 12400f Processor
https://amzn.to/3HxmyDD
ā Ram: XPG Spectrix D50 4x8GB DDR4 3600mhz Ram
https://amzn.to/46QicS5
DDR5 Ram Setup
ā...
the dunno
cheap
who wants to be did not even have run runing at listed speed
ddr4 is like £20 for 2x8gb 3600mts
I got a ddr5 5600 rgb ram for 20$
So find me a DDR4-6000 ram stick, thats the point of ddr5, its faster
2x 16gb
not even considering the fact itās like Ā£40 less then a ddr5 kit
rgb makes it run faster
Why i paid the premium
100% there in gear 2 for both
Itās not quadruple, ddr4 32gb 3600 is like $40 ish and ddr5 32gb 6000 is like $90. Slightly over double but in reality itās only $40-$50 for an in some cases 20%+ performance increase.
Nah the figures listed are about right, between 10 to 20% depending on the game; back when 12th gen was new that wasn't worth buying into since 32GB kits were minimum $400
ddr4 shoud be in gear 1 or it kin d of sucks
Very true and real info
i tested on 12 gen pc i build a bit ago
im so glad i didnāt fuck up my ram
Mate I said 16GB
Unlike DDR5 you can buy 16GB kits and not be shanked in performance due to how shit 16GB DDR5 kits are
i heard a crunch but everything still works 
The rgb making system go brrr?
ill (maybe?) be fine
Oof
it was the third dimm slot
Nice I got like 25k
surprisingly switching modules doesnāt affect anything
and it boots without issues
so maybe god decided to be merciful today
Honestly 16gb is starting to not be enough. Iād say every pc being built now should have 32. On ddr4 itās not that much more, on ddr5 16gb kits are hard to find and terrible value anyways. Get 32gb no matter what unless youāre on ULTRA ULTRA ULTRA BUDGET
My highest was 25.8k with undervolt
These are 2 best results with 4070 and these cpus on entire 3d mark site
16gb is more then enough nowadays
Ah 4070 ok i got a 9070xt
16GB 'starting to not be enough' is simply plain wrong kek
what games is it not enough for_
8gb is still playable (thanks kaz)
Wrong
Most people could easily survive on 8GB
explain
2k and lower for sure
the performance difference is minimal
i test budget systems not seen one game go over 16GB
this is genuine misinformation
same
The resolution has literally nothing to do with this lmfao
12600KF is $145
well it should not be able to but i mean it does not get all the way to 16GB
Sure you can game on 16gb but what happens if you open discord, a music player, RGB software, obs, etc in the background?
What rez literally will eat up vram
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We're talking about RAM not VRAM, jfc
Ahh okokok
nvlink 
if you're actually doing anything and have anything remotely high end at all... No it isn't. it's fuck-all. you will hit the limit often.
Lol even with 8gb ram better have all background shit closed š
no?
If u plan on playing new titles
16gb is the minimum I would put in a proper system, but ... 32 makes more sense.
Most people just don't though, idk how this is even used as an argument
DDR4 32gb kits are cheap now. DDR5 16gb kits are barely less than 32 anyways. You should probably always just get 32. Maybe itās not needed right now but it will likely be needed soon and itās just the smarter better value thing to do.
i can comfortably play a game with spotify open discord open and 2 youtube videos open and still have a minimal performance hit
yeah
ok
16gb ram?
16gb is plenty for normies. 32gb is cheap. It's not worth not getting.
yeah
if I opened a game right now I'd be over 16gb unless I closed literally everything and just had the game open
game issue
i just saying they fucked up there ram perfomicne with the ddr4 3600 if they just pluged in and hit go
What games 
It's not particularly relevant how much cheaper 32GB kits are, you're just trying to force me to use 32GB kits as an example so it fits your point better.. On a budget 16GB will get you through most things you wanna do just fine
any of you guys bother making custom rivatuner layouts?
i think you have a bigger issue if your game is eating 16gbs of ram 
Same here. My system will use 20-28 gigs in game with other apps open.
you should be asking what background things I have open that don't want to close
Gotta clear that bloat
the game would only have to use 2gb to put me over 16gb
16gb is about £20-£25 32gb is about £45 typically
not bloat
i only ran once and that was with minecraft eating 25GB on its own
bloat is un-needed things
keep in mind with less it will move less important things to the swap partition or compress it
Tf u got in background that you NEED
i know i didnāt need 32gb before i got my system
.... On a 1000 build, not worth worrying about. On a 300 build? For sure.
Sure itāll āget you throughā but that doesnāt change the fact that 32 is probably what most people should be getting in 2025 since the price of DDR4 has come down and the price of DDR5 16gb kits is terrible compared to 32gb.
yall obeese in ram / ram util.
my build was like £600?
I could likely do what I do with only 4GB of ram, but bought 16 cuz wasn't expensive
Dope game
Ram headroom is a good thing to have also. Donāt want your system trying to memory swap while youāre gaming or doing work.
donāt think iāve ever gone over 12gb of usage
i play almost exclusively 10+ year old games
memory swap?
Thatās because your system probably wonāt allow it.
my 4060 is probably overkill
Nah him playing old games is why
it definitely does
When the system runs out of memory and starts writing info that it needs to disk.
16 - 12 =4
Hm u get tht Thang for
meaning 4gb left to use
My 4070ti super isnāt quite overkill, Iād call it just right for me
I had issues with getting hacked as if I was a high profile target, so after hacker crashing my car in my games and making me miss my target, I gave up gaming and started learning cybersec
fair
What rez u play at
i get 1440p 170fps native on the games i play on my 4060 lol
I play 4k so I got a 9070xt
upgrading my gpu quite literally wonāt affect my performance
got to love gear 2 4600 being slower then gear 1 3800
Well u play older games so ya
aka page file
This is why a system might not go over 12gb even if it could effectively use more.
In the process I got old and cranky
no modern games really interest me other then golden lap and eventually over the hill
my browser with all the tabs I have
the multiple background applications for for running various things setup-related
the software for my security cameras that I always have a window open for
discord. bit hard to game if I can't talk to the people I'm playing with
steam, bit hard to game without it if it's a steam game
Like I said
if you're actually doing anything and have anything remotely high end at all
Ya u chilling with that 4060 then for a loooong time
iām hoping like 10 years
I idle like 20gb usage with my usual programs open
If you have 32gb instead of 16 it means youāll be using swap memory less. Faster speeds for data recall, more memory headroom, less writing to SSD will likely increase SSD longevity. Even worse if youāre on a sata SSD or hard drive. 32gb better than 16.
My guiding thought was to make sure they can never do that to another gamer ever
What browser u use? I use librewolf and it barely eat memory and discord take like 400mbs max on my rig and ya steam like another 300mbs
This ^
yeah but thatās like 50 different programs
you are definitely the exception not the rule
if you're just gaming, and have low-mid range hardware (and thus not playing very demanding games at high settings)
yeah you can obviously get away with 16gb
it's not "more than enough nowadays"
and to 2nd this #tech-chat-1 message
have you seen her monitor setup my guy
Okay I am formatting my laptop now so I can send it to be repaired then sold
browser is irrelevant. anything would EAT ram with the tabs I keep open
No, but itās probably similar to mine if sheās using 20gb
show us yours
The repair guy is my cousin so he won't swindle me out of money thankfully
I have multiple stacks of tabs across two windows at any time
Chrome is known to devoure ram unnecessarily
absolutely no where near similar
Ya that'll do it
With the cash from the laptop and my own money I'll finally be able to enter the RTX era š
epic games, steam, discord x4
browser, wallpaper engine, and a few other programs
this is not normal
also you have 128gb iirc so it will use as much ram as it wants
Bro i keep like a max of 3-4 programs open
Formatting a laptop will completely delete all user operations on it, right?
firefox uses 20% less ram then chrome in my system
Windows login, browser logins, etc
Nah bro I'm clueless chill
I asked Google and it said yes but just to be sure
good for you, that's probably a barely noticeable difference unless you have a ton of tabs open
this is not normal lmao
He keeps 200 tabs open 24/7 it don't matter
My work still isn't complete, and may never be, but what I learned, I'm sharing for free
with 2-5 tabs open itās about a gigabyte less then chrome
Browsers easily take like 5-8gb
Big facts
for you
Nah nah bro I'm clueless
uwot
Sitting on this screen with Marvel Rivals, Discord, OBS, Signal RGB, MSI Afterburner profile, NZXT Cam, and a couple other background tasks open I was probably hovering around 18gb of usage.
I have a few tabs open
nowhere even near that even with my tabs
you have a terrabyte of ram you aināt in this conversation
Chrome go brrr
Only 64gb
you better not still be using opera with that painful amount of tabs
Close enough
Discord applications hog ram
thatās what i have open just replace the game with assetto corsa
Firefox
when you have fucking 4 of them yeah
Ya I got libre Wolfe open discord steam powercolor rgb and like idm open when I game
I usually always close brower tho when I boot a game up
if you don't restart and let it run for hours
Effort
^ discord loves to cache things for your user experience to be supposedly better and never delete it
that or I'm not worried, not like it's going to eat 32 gb of my ram š¤·āāļø
I've been heavy chilling with this 32gb
Discord had a huge memleak issue a while back and i saw it climb 10gb
I'm worried about it at my work as I regularly already use like 25gbs running shit
this really isn't an issue though, it is kinda nice not having to reload messages and images
if it's an issue you're either too broke for enough ram or are weird and have multiple apps open for hours
Coming fa mfs pockets oof š¤£
I've been on 32gb ever since my x99 board died because I've been too lazy (and broke) to buy a new kit of ram to get back to 64
I bought a 4070
fuck you gigashyte
Recently?
Ye arrive this week
Ahhh okok hm u paid?
I got one used a while back for like 425 i think
Random accidently bought 2 so im trading my card plus cash for it
What card?
Plus unreal engine hates amd
6700xt
And hm on top? Like 150?
80
My network scores are good + avg + good
Help me my pc goes full fan speed and doesn't post
how much cash?
Damnnn
80
Is dram light on?
you doxed yourself
Tho they get to great + great + great after running my perf script
my motherboard has 1 yellow light, asus
Whats that usd?
wow thats funny r5 5500 is faster then r7 5700x3d in super PI
Look up ya mobo mamual and the light meaning
Gayming
me when IP based geolocation places me like hundred of miles of where I'm supposed to be
Real shit
cetified gaymer
Oh u gotta setup lol I just gotta bed and a big ass tv
This is just my school setup
iono when are you doing this
I need a desk š©
oh I'm on dhcp, my ip changes every 24h
gran turismo 3 triple screens
thats the LAN ip
no
3 copies of GT3 3 controllers 3 consoles
when are you doing it
How are you stretching the screen like that tho
I link
ps2 could link to other ps2s
but yes your WAN ip does change but it should still be the around the same area with ip geo tracker things
I takes all 3 ps2' to do it?
yeah
Ohhhh okokok
each ps2 is rendering the game
I didn't know that
just different parts of it
Random nvme i bought
Seems legit
(it has a virus on it)
(it will steal all your cookie clicker cookies)
I use it for schoolwork
(and bitcoin)
Are you using that cuz your mobo doesn't take nvme?
Ahh okok
Portable drive for schoolwork
Can someone help ? Basically my laptop won't recognise the output anymore. Idk what the issue is, I tried and switched my SSD to windows and over there it refuses to even recognise the monitor, I've tried to set it to 1.4 from 2.0 in BIOS settings. My other laptop outputs just fine with the cable and same TV.
new IP obtained
Thanks for letting us know your new ip
that is the LAN ip
lmao
well we cant do anything with it since its LAN
Can someone help ?
your nail is so fuckign scuffed
š
it fits my vibe
:/
get actual gel instead of sharpie babes, that shit looks ass
Moneyyy
you're literally buying a 4070
For 80 man chill
for like, pocket change
Priorities duhh
i sold my steamdeck and i only have 80 left from what i got from it
gel is like 5 GBP
Man i keep thinking usd
like 100 USD or 120
100 bucks
Ahhh okokok still not bad
I got a used one for like 425usd and a 3080ti for like 350
I think i know who shouldāve been the main character in the hunger games mockingjay pt. 1
Charles white Jr.
ooo my new cpu should be dropped off at the post office today
won't be able to pick it up though š¦
current situation without running my perf script
What cpu
13900ks
lol why does this exist
I7 i9?
What series
what???

Isn't the series like i7 i9 i5 š
Good god American date format is stupid
900 ALWAYS means its a i9
so 14900 means its a i9
Nuh uh
well i didn't know that
when has it not
The i3/i5 etc branding is meaningless garbage
i7 990xe
Cuz i have a i5-13400f and it's not 4gen so logic
o in that way
but 1 day of nitro is just useless
I think the i5 with K mark was best buy for gaming since 6600
Smoothest brain
Sure is
Can I buy a non oc 9070xt and overclock it and get the same preformace as a 9070 xt oc card
anything made this decade and 900 means its a i9
Nah i can get a grinder and make it smoother trust
gain like 0.5%?
Would it be worth it?
My 9070xt got 5080 perf with undervolting
why does discord even give it
0.5%
Because they can
factory OC tends to do nothing meaningful
(13) gen
(400) 400-600 is i5
(F) no igpu
Should I try getting the xfx swift for $600
Bullshit
so people can try it out and have a higher chance a user will buy it
Lol ok im not the only one
you better hope for no missing rops and it not to brick itself on driver updates
Nah i got a 9070xt instead
Ofc
what is i7-8700k then?
fym nothing meaningful
I have a 5070 ti from Amazon but it costed me $1068 and I just canāt justify spending that. I could basically buy a whole prebuilt for that
factory oc is meaningful for making more profit
gotta pump that shareholder value
so yours is doing that?
Do you really see any difference in video graphics. If you had a nvidia gpu before
Lemme check my gpu 2dmark score rq
So not yours specifically
3d*
3D mark is not a game
Game graphics
What games then
what do you mean game graphics
Pretty sure he meant in game
unless its physx or something it will look EXACTLY the same
I wonder how good would new amd cpus be on non electron made games
they both render the same way
Thats exactly what I meant
so it will ALWAYS look the same
I also made a benchmark app. Simple powershell script
@flint badger what u get in 3dMark steel nomad?
Around 8k if I remember correctly
Show a picture
I only did it steel with my first attempt so idk what it is with my current settings
wait does steel nomad do RT
My monitor shipment cant arrive me hell yeah some mf decided to put my cargo in a market without even telling me now i'm looking at it there are no markets like that in anywhere he probably took it home
I'm gonna report their ass
Boutta run steel rn
since my XTX does like 2K in nomad
Extreme?
I got demo so I can only do the basic one
Lets hope
Why do you feel the need to update us on the temps? 
Thats not even that low
Hello guys looking for some help i just bought a new laptop and want to reinstall windows on it with a debloated one. is the cd key saved on the laptop or how do i find the cd key?
Ok my guy not tht serious
just click you don't have a key. It will auto activiate with your key when you reach desktop if you previously activated that board with legit key
How do I get this page I only see the score
how are you running steel nomad
?
i was just thinking to not even boot it up just to install the debloated one right away.
Bro be running the temu version
Yep temu forsure
Nah just had to full-screen myb
cause id have to make a microsoft account, in order to get into windows which i dont wana do xD
so it's a brand new, unactivated board?
its a laptop
should be buying it new refurbished, yes its a laptop
should be a sticker if it's a laptop
not with the code
just a sticker saying it has windows on it
bought this one price was really good. i havent seen laptops put the key on a sticker in a long time.
well it's likely activated by oem then
If I get the 9070 xt do I need to phrase my power supply. I have a 650 w
no
corsair I think released 2025 series of psus
imo that should be fine. will help if you undervolt too better performance and temps and less power
its gonna be fine
What about a 5070 ti?
and wost case you can power limit by like 10% and lose like 3% performance
i would not go for a 5070 ti
only reason is if you NEED cuda
should be similar ish? 9070xt takes about 80ishw more power in average
id buy a RTX 4000 card at lower price
pick up best 4000 you can in your price range
I canāt. The only other option I would go for is a 4070 TI super but on marketplace they go for 800-1k
man who got tht 7.9 wanna know his settings
theres always 7800/7900xt
too
@tidal geyser wasnt gorstak banned or smt from here
Nah, the only amd card I would go for is 9070xt. I have a 3070 rn and Iām just trying to upgrade
yeah at that price range might be worth getting 9070 or 9070xt
undervolt go brrr
yeah i swear he did i think he was one of the crazy ppl
So heās ban evadingā¦
I personally don't remember previously being here
crazy it last longer and runs better
Iāll sell my current card for 280 so realistically Iām only paying 350-400 for a 9070xt
If u can secure one
but if I was do ban me...I forgot
Are oc ones worth it or just try getting one for $600ish
should i try these settings
these are apparently the setting to get 5080perf on like cyberpunk no rt
imo id get the best Nvida card i could get 3000-4000 series with in your budget/power supply budget(watts) i hate nvida as a company but there cards are just better š¦
Has anybody here ever experimented with changing DLSS2 in Fortnite to DLSS 4
what did he do
the only exception id make is AMD if you ever plan on daily driving Linux for your OS. AMD just plays way better with Linux then nvida does
pls ban me quickly if I was previously banned. I have no desire to help anyone who banned me
just ask the moderators if you've done something worng
wouldnt u know if u were banned
I don't remember
The only gpus Iād even consider buying rn is, 4070 ti super, 4080 super, 9070 xt, and 5070 ti.
I wonāt be able to get any of the nvidia card for under 1k though
In binbows 7?
if u were banned then how would u be unbanned??
what card do you have atm??
3070
whaa
honestly your fine for an other 2 years really in less you must play at top settings. i didnt replace my 1080ti till a year ago. but i dont know your use case and only you can say when you need to update š
Anyone know of a case that has 9 pcie slots in it ?
The 7.9 pc rating thing
for steel nomad was on win7?
but yea i really would stick with greedy nvida if i could help it as they just gernaly perform better. although the newer 9070/9070xt are much closer now with there new fsr4. so now is porb one of the best times to try out amd.
I want a 7800xt lol
Honestly Iāve been itching for an upgrade. I know I donāt need it
i literally just came froma 3070 also kinda
Choose A Case
I just have the extra case rn so idk
within the last two months i had a 3080ti a 4070 and a 3090
I mean amd just lacked in rtx department
Did you really see substantial gains
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hwNp99/aerocool-case-en52436 very nice case if you can find it
What the heck lol
try having 3 gpu s die in a week
what
dont
lol most def
My god thatās a old case
What the hell
why not? dlss is upscaling not cheating
lol i sold em with builds i made
Ah
expect the 3090 somone offered 925 so i said fuck it
easy way to get worse KtD
KtD?? im not playing ranked lol
damn man how tf did this guy undervolt -175
im a casual player i just want my 120 in 4k without lowering settings
anytime i go lower than -75 my shit crashes
I don't even have a working gpu
Maybe my mxm gpu but whatever
come on it runs 200+fps easy with out it with 10 year old parts so i think you will just be worse if you use dlss due to just worse image
i dont really keep track of my kill to death ration but i can promise it sucks
and if your not playing ranked why do you need more then 120fps
im in 4k using max every setting so no it doesnt. any video on the 5090 it runs 70-90 fps
My only pcie gpu displays colorful squares
maybe try not doing that
because to me it looks choppy below 100
Honestly I think Iāll do this. Iāll buy a 9070 xt and if I donāt like it Iāll just return it
LOL
what cpu?
9800x3d
that sad cpu
#ballin
probs the same performance with a r5 7600
Why sad cpu?
i have no use for the 9950x3d
may aswell get 4790k sicne its that gpu limtied
thats a very stuipid thing to say you think 4k fortnite is the only thing i do?
What game we talking?
they playing fornight and getting worse fps then i do since max all at 4k
i play competetive in marvel rivals i need my frames
4k fortnite loll
i think that is even less reliant on the cpu
Dumb that's all i can say
4k is fine just not max every thing
are you using any type of upscalling and are you sure everything is maxed
1440p i use for rivals it uses the cpu
my pc cant upscail
well i would hope so but how much
then show the max setting in fortnite with your fps
XESS and FSR
dont make it run better
It's an fps shooter, do 1080p low hand have a 1000hz monitor
rip
i play games on max or i dont play them thats just me
i could have grabbed a 5080 with the exact model i wanted but i went for a 90 for this reason
Bruh
i get 160fps
Imagine maxing out a game on an lcd
show that with 100% maxed settings lol
im using oled wtf?
RIP i be back in 2 hours
Did i say anything about you?
wow that bad
currently ingame 100% of everything maxed
Loll
at 4k
I bet i can get better fps in fortnite without a gpu
at 4k yes turning rt off had 0 inpact on fps lol
On my shitbox
i have a feeling fortnite doesnt run fvery well on 50 series yet
Not at 4k, at native
||1440x900||
RT is on
RIP why you have nanite on?
yes thats on
You have a thing off
pretty lights
you can only turn that on with upscalling
what??
why cant game devs optmized the games
Upscale to 8k
Because they have realized that they don't need to
also i can even do native 1440p MAX MAX settings and get like 80+ fps on my 7900 XTX
tsr functions bad on 50 cards
come on when game looks worse then gta5 and runs at 20% of fps and you say that
no shit TSR is always bad
Is it fortnite?
just use TAA
taa looks like ass
Fortnite also has some issues with fps I've heard
taa is the worst possible setting
Like 1% lows specifically
it looks better then fxaa
not to me in fps games
for me it looks the best
Well they don't care to because people will play either way
i seen 13400F onlt get 30fps lows
Yeah idk what they did with recent updates but it messes up 1% lows
fortnites new updates screwed fps for many people
not me
What about .1% lows?
best part of all same game patched i played with older pc and got 2x the lows with 4790/gtx 970
Please tell me this is 8k
Same cuz i don't play garbage
no thats not 8k tsr is just bad on the 50 cards
what program to use for overclocking?
unless gpu none
Name one thing the 50 cards are good at except ai
bios
any cpu that does not have official support for windows 11 i noticed tends to performe like utter garbage in fortnite at least for my testing
everything but price?
the 5090 is a major leep
i can say that not the case
You do know price is the core denominator in anything you can buy right
Melting
Exploding
and 32 bit PhysX
you did not say anything about that
Common sense buddy
you only said except ai
not really, some people have enough money to where a 5090 does make sense
like with the 4090 gaming performance you just could not get anything better
Some people can buy Bugatti ! Must mean Bugatti is the best car right
workstation class cards only have the 4090 tier of gaming performance

