tech-chat-1

[arctic furnace]

my fault

but it probably isn’t hazardous….

[balmy tapir]

what is it 😭😭

lol

[arctic furnace]

just kidding it’s a chemical compound can’t really remember tbh

[balmy tapir]

i've had the occasional sample spill we love decon ❤️❤️

[arctic furnace]

Man i love my job so much

it’s so cool

I’m on a W-9 1099

[dark comet]

Would it be more worth it to get the rtx 4080 over the 4070 ti super if it's an extra $200 (cad)

[arctic furnace]

I’m getting paid untaxed until the end of the year

I need to save a lot of money tbh

[arctic furnace]

Yes

Why would you rather get a 4070 over a 4080

4080 is better

The reason why i upgraded from a 3050 to a 3080

[dark comet]

how is there such a huge price jump from 4080 to 4090 though

[arctic furnace]

tbh I still have no idea…

I really want a 5090

[dark comet]

I guess the performance is a lot better with 24gb vram?

[arctic furnace]

I want to make an overkill PC

[dark comet]

Don't we all... I mean

[arctic furnace]

I want to be able to run 4k 120 hz

rn I use a 4k 60hz TV

I’m getting like 70-80 fps on most games

and that’s with high settings

not even maximum

and forget ray tracing that’s out of the question 😭

Would be like 30 FPS if i turned it on

[latent pasture]

its +9% better and still the same vram

for 200 cad
dumbing it down to 4070 over 4080 is stupid

[arctic furnace]

but we don’t know the exact model

[latent pasture]

[arctic furnace]

?

[latent pasture]

they literally said 4080 vs 4070ti super

[arctic furnace]

Ohhhh 200 cad

[strange atlas]

RIGHT AFTER i bought the 1440p monitor price of it got down by %18 i'm gonna cry

I paid 250 dollars for it 😦

[dark comet]

so the 4070 ti s?

[arctic furnace]

It’s only $139.01 USD

not much tbh

[strange atlas]

If i cancel the order it will give my money back in 15 days i wonder if i should take risk and cancel my order

[arctic furnace]

might as well

[arctic furnace]

Yeah cancel

Might as well if it’s on sale

[latent pasture]

how long does it take you to earn 200 cad

cuz ur about to pay that for +8% fps

[strange atlas]

but not sure which they they will refund my money it normally gives around a week to 15 days

[dark comet]

Ngl I don't even know the exact price, nothing is available atm. I think I'll get whatever is cheapest when I go buy it

whether thats a 5070 ti, 9070 xt, or 4070 tis or 4080 idgaf anymore

[latent pasture]

come back when you have prices
the other guy here is assuming ur rich af and 200 cad is cheap change

[dark comet]

I feel like the moment those things come back in stock they're gonna be sold out in like 12 hours

[arctic furnace]

I’m pretty sure you can contact customer support and ask them to refund you the amount it would’ve been for the sale cause you bought it so close to the date it started maybe they might consider refunding it… idk tho

[strange atlas]

i think i'm gonna take the risk

[arctic furnace]

ok

[dark comet]

for $200 I could get a pretty good keyboard, or upgraded monitor

[strange atlas]

200 dollars for a keyboard? damn

[dark comet]

Can someone please tell me what this means...

[strange atlas]

I bought the monitor for 250 and that felt expensive to me :d

[dark comet]

It is cad

[latent pasture]

up to you if thats worth -8% performance in non raytracing
or 15% if raytraced games

[strange atlas]

you gotta update your bios with older cpu in same gen

[dark comet]

don't 4070 and 4080 both have raytracing

[strange atlas]

oh so like 115 dollars right

[latent pasture]

4080 gets better fps obv

[dark comet]

Does that mean the cpu is not meant for that mobo

[arctic furnace]

Ohhh true yeah my new job is turning me into a stereotypical Cali Arminian 💀 help I’m becoming a baller now

[strange atlas]

it is meant for that mobo its just gotta get updated for that mobo too see that cpu

[dark comet]

I checked and the b850 works fine, the b650 is just a bit cheaper thats all

[latent pasture]

it has bios flashback anyway

most b650s do

there are b850s at the same price if ur really afraid that the store will ship you an old stock mobo and dont want to flash bios on ur own

[dark comet]

Would it be more worth it to pay al ittle more for the b850

[latent pasture]

ur not even paying more, theres good b850s at 180-250 cad

[dark comet]

I could ask them when I purchase maybe? (If I am buying in person)

[latent pasture]

ye do that

[dark comet]

Bro this bundle looks nice, only problem is the ram

[latent pasture]

whats wrong with that

that bundle is kinda sade its not cheaper than if u bought the parts individually

[dark comet]

fr

[dark comet]

I'm pretty sure g.skill ram better

G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB is what i'm planning on rn

[latent pasture]

now this ones actually cheaper than buying individually
ram is still 32gb 6000

[dark comet]

Why are they all Corsair ram bruh

Is there that big of a difference though between rams

[noble ermine]

RN corsair RAM has the greatest inventory, therefore the lowest prices, it's even reaching SA.

I think they got a lot because they had a medium-high price point before and decided to speed up the cycling (and revenue rates), a couple of years ago i'd never had considered Corsair as the budget choice for a kit but i just got a 64 gb ddr5 rgb kit because it's the cheapest decent shielded ram, it used to be Hyper X's flat black rams but now apparently it's Corsair's Vengeance.

( i did pay a tiny bit extra for RGB but still paid cheaper than on other high quality kits )

[steep pawn]

bro i just reapplied thermal paste on my cpu (completely unessacary was just bored) and i realised my dumbass installed my ram wrong

[hexed tapir]

Corsair ram can be horrible

[limber nacelle]

at least their support is good, from my experience

[steep pawn]

the sticks were next to eachother

[dark comet]

Should I get the 32 GB Corsair vengeance over the 32 GB g.skill flare

[limber nacelle]

id take gskill if it's not much more

[unreal meadow]

Hi all. Does anyone know why i suddenly cannot connect to networks? I dont even have the option to. I tried ethernet and a dongle and neither work

[steep pawn]

is there problems with corsair ddr5

[limber nacelle]

but frankly if you're not gonna manually tune it probably doesn't matter

[noble ermine]

Just check memory specs and price, if vengeance specs match or are better pick vengeance.

[limber nacelle]

and I've had a good experience with corsair support

[steep pawn]

is ur internet down or were u playing in cmd/terminal

[unreal meadow]

Neither

[limber nacelle]

no

[dark comet]

I don't know how to do any of that 💀

[limber nacelle]

I use corsair ram

[limber nacelle]

its fine

[dark comet]

I'll look at stats then

[steep pawn]

im still on DDR4 and dont really need to upgrade

[unreal meadow]

My internet is fine. I cant even see the thing to connect to internet

[steep pawn]

maybe i could manually push my ram a lil but 3600mhz is fine atm

[steep pawn]

check ur cables

[unreal meadow]

Like i was trying to install drivers and i lost connection

[dark comet]

And for my ssd I chose the wd blue 2 tb, I originally was thinking of wd black but I wanted to cut costs

[steep pawn]

and reboot pc

[unreal meadow]

I did

[steep pawn]

network driver?

[unreal meadow]

Nvidia app

[steep pawn]

does nvidia mess with network iforgot

[dark comet]

What can you like modify how fast the ram is or smthing

[steep pawn]

manual overclock

[unreal meadow]

Even when i installed it it doesnt open for some reason

[dark comet]

Like overclocking cpu?

[steep pawn]

i just have xmp on atm

yea but with ram

[random gyro]

the goat

[steep pawn]

u can even get to ddr5 speeds if ur lucky

[dark comet]

I hear people talking about it but idk. I feel like it's prob not the best idea for me cause I'm totally new to pcs

[steep pawn]

trust me its a EXTREMELY small difference

i play mostly single player games anyways

[dark comet]

I will be too

I just saw the g.skill ripjaws v 32 GB for only 70 dollars

That's def the cheapest I've seen

What's the difference between the flare, ripjaws, and trident series?

[random gyro]

Anyone think I can mount a aio here

[steep pawn]

got my 32gb kit for 40 cad

guy bought ddr4 when he needed ddr5

it was litterally bnib

[steep pawn]

120 yea
240 maybe
360 angle grinder needed

[limber nacelle]

I got 32gb of bdie for 50 canadian dollars, ddr4 is so cheap now

[steep pawn]

yea

[limber nacelle]

hell I got 128gb last week for 100 cad

[steep pawn]

my server has faster ram than my main pc lol

[random gyro]

Thanks and yes 360 def angle grinder

[dark comet]

Bro

Luckyyyy

[steep pawn]

i got such a good deal on the cpu and mobo that i was locked with ddr5

[limber nacelle]

that's not even particularly good or bad ngl

[steep pawn]

150$ cad for i5 12400 and supporting board

[limber nacelle]

its aight

[steep pawn]

this was in like 2022

[unreal meadow]

Guys does anyone know why i cant have wifi in my homescreen. I have ethernet and a dongle

[limber nacelle]

oh now that is pretty good

[limber nacelle]

oh valid, that was cheap then

[dark comet]

The g.skill has lowerfirst word and cast latency, don't know if that makes it better. Also has lower timings

[steep pawn]

running it as a media sever and a photo backup

immich jellyfin and tailscale is the holy trinity of self hosted media

fin amp is that weird uncle nobody knows about

[dapper abyss]

Hello 👋

[dark comet]

I Might get the cheaper Corsair vengeance instead

[steep pawn]

isnt cl36* better

[limber nacelle]

I need to get another lga1700 board

if I can get one for cheap

[dapper abyss]

I handle hardware very carefully...
I mean...
A friend super glued his CPU cooler onto his CPU...
Then I used a big screwdriver and I tore off the CPU socket...

[dark comet]

I don't know what cl anything means lol

[limber nacelle]

cas latency, it's not actually that important

[steep pawn]

thats why i love am4

boards are dirt cheap

[limber nacelle]

true

[steep pawn]

cpus wernt even that much more expensive

[dark comet]

Is cl30 or cl 36 better?

[limber nacelle]

30 but it's not that important imo

[steep pawn]

bro i remember my first am4 build

i spend 20$ on my cpu

[dark comet]

Would the g.skill be worth the extra 17 dollars 💀

[steep pawn]

and 30$ on the board

[dark comet]

Bruh. I picked the 9700x for like 400 something dollaes

[steep pawn]

take me back to those prices 😔

[dawn tundra]

2psu's

[oak cove]

Do i turn off game mode on my pc settingss

[limber nacelle]

its alright

[dark comet]

I dunno, maybe I'll get a better ram like the g.skill Trident

[limber nacelle]

then that's alright

[dark comet]

Wdym by that

[limber nacelle]

get what you like

its yo money after all

[grizzled frost]

your friend did what now

and you did what now

[dapper abyss]

A friend super glued his CPU cooler onto his CPU...
Then I used a big screwdriver and I tore off the CPU socket...
then he screwed the power supply into the case with long wood screws because he didn't had the right ones... It didn't worked as planned, because he drilled 2 of the screws through the mains capacitor inside the power supply...
He plugged the CPU cables from the PSU into his GPU somehow, and the GPU was between 2 slots on the Mainboard...
And he plugged a NVME SSD into a SATA Power cable...
And he installed the RAM into the PCIe slot...
After he plugged it in a long BANG sound came out of the power supply including sparks...
It also tripped the braker...

[grizzled frost]

please never let your friend anywhere near anything ever again

[dapper abyss]

I mean... Sometimes he does smart things...
But often it doesn't go as planned...
His laptop was overheating everytime so he drilled some holes through the case for ventilation....
But the battery catched fire...

[grizzled frost]

i reiterate what i said earlier

your friend is a danger to himself and others

[supple gull]

https://tenor.com/view/gorila-gorilla-shocked-side-eye-jaw-drop-gif-18303163152195218481

[dark comet]

Bro that's some cartoon level shi

Windows or Linux? What are the pros and cons of each?

[dapper abyss]

He accidentally drilled through my phone with a cordless drill...

[steep pawn]

😭 😭 😭

[dapper abyss]

[grizzled frost]

windows easier to use, less control
linux harder to use, far more control

[lapis condor]

lol
no

[lapis condor]

It makes a huge difference in 0.1% and 1% lows in games

[thorn pewter]

DDR5 speeds are wayyy faster than any DDR4

[lapis condor]

Sometimes upwards of a 15% difference

[solid crown]

@flint badger customer got it inspected by geek squad and it was a dead PSU

fucking pos MWE Gold V3

reviews had bad things to say about the V2 but I thought maybe the V3 got the issue fixed but it seems not

[dawn tundra]

What is the best 533mhz fsb cpu

[light oriole]

Do u like

[flint badger]

Damn how'd the psu die?

[solid crown]

No idea, maybe the pins got shorted which activated the PSU protection and for some reason it didnt reset

and another thing, this 10 year warranty isnt even transferable

like bruh

I was gonna tell the customer to send in the psu and get it replaced and just sell it or something (they already got it replaced)

but nope, warranty not transferable AND you have to pay for shipping lol

[dawn tundra]

What is this?

[left dove]

Looks like a swappable vrm

[dawn tundra]

I got this old IBM e server and it has a bunch of features I've never seen before

I took apart the other computer

This thing looks almost fully functional

Also I think it has a VHS stuck in it

[midnight linden]

I’m thinking of getting the 5070ti what’s the difference between the regular and the edition one

[dawn tundra]

Don't

TI's are always better but just don't get a 50 series right now

If you're using it for gaming

Trust me it's not worth it

[dawn tundra]

5070 specifically is the worst one

And you won't be able to get one for a decent price

[midnight linden]

It’s on Best Buy

[dawn tundra]

Hahahahhahahha

[midnight linden]

Cause I have a MSI - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12GB VENTUS 3X OC 12GB GDDR6X PCI Express 4.0 Graphics Card - Black

[dawn tundra]

Without using dlss your graphics card already outperforms the 5070

[midnight linden]

And cause I have a $700 credit from Best Buy

[dawn tundra]

Get something different get a better monitor or something

Not a 5070

[midnight linden]

It’s a new pc cause the pc I have now I’m going to ship to Mexico

[dawn tundra]

Yeah but don't ever get a 50 series right now

You are wasting your money

[midnight linden]

Then what cpu then

They stop making the 40 series

[dawn tundra]

No

No they haven't

A lot of companies are still producing them

Where are you getting your information

[midnight linden]

I can’t find any

[dawn tundra]

Because you're not looking in the right places that's why

Go newegg
,pc part picker s*** even taobao Chinese marketplace

Wherever you're looking is not good

there are plenty

It'd be better if you asked almost 12 hours from now cuz that's when most people get on

I can only help you so much

[bronze jay]

I have my new linux drive running with the windows drive still connected so I can get my old files but it's not showing up in the file explorer

Maybe I need to disconnect power and start it again>

[dawn tundra]

Again you guys got to ask this stuff in the morning

[dawn tundra]

Yep you got to look for used

[bronze jay]

It's not morning you're just an australian

[dawn tundra]

Just trust me the 50 series is not good

[dawn tundra]

I'm in the US

[bronze jay]

ITS NOT MORNING

[dawn tundra]

Yeah I know

I said you got to ask it in the morning

...

[bronze jay]

I thought you were being sarcastic

[midnight linden]

Used 1500

[dawn tundra]

No

[bronze jay]

Complaining

[dawn tundra]

Come back in about 12 hours or even 6:00 and you'll get a much better response and more in depth or even go to the other tech channel

[midnight linden]

Okay

[kind pilot]

during a CMOS reset do i need to start my pc after removing the cmos battery or jsut wait a little

[dawn tundra]

You need the CMOS battery in there

It should be fine if you have a new one it should be fine then

[kind pilot]

replaced the ram

and it isnt training so im doing a cmos reset

[torn elk]

guys i just bought a HP Elitedesk 705 G4 Mini i plan on running a server with it, what's the best config for running servers on this thing

[formal sonnet]

There is no "best" anything - if there were, one company would globally dominate the space. How you set this up as a server and what you decide to run on it entirely depends on what you want it to serve.

[torn elk]

i want to run minecraft and teraria servers

[formal sonnet]

I have an older HP ProDesk something something Mini running Proxmox that I use for testing things. Proxmox is nice because I can spin up Virtual Machines / LXC containers whenever I want.

[torn elk]

like im wondering if i should get 32gbs ram

[azure topaz]

download proxmox, gett at least 16 gigs of ram

[torn elk]

cuz right now im running two minecraft servers and it's maxing my memory out

[azure topaz]

an SSD is essential

[sinful cobalt]

ur on how many gigs of memory? Im also considering if I should open a server if i want to

[azure topaz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZcOlW-DwrU get started here

[torn elk]

i have 8gbs

[azure topaz]

theen you can use proxmox and linux say debian server or ubuntu server for your minecraft servers

[sinful cobalt]

ah ic i think my itx with 32gb can do one well

[torn elk]

also im reading the specs and it says the cpu supports ram speeds 2933 what ram should i get

[formal sonnet]

If you want an adventure and are technically savvy on the server side of things, you can give Proxmox or TrueNAS Scale a try. If you want a simple-er-ish setup, I would recommend installing Debian Linux, then install https://cubecoders.com/AMP on top of that OS.

[azure topaz]

a heavilyt modded server witth several people playing use like 10-12GB ram

[torn elk]

and what's the max capacity

[azure topaz]

this is incredible software btw

[haughty compass]

Hey I'm not sure how to set up the correct speed for my ram in the bios. Could someone help me out?

[azure topaz]

turn on XMP/EXPO

then save and exit

[formal sonnet]

110% absolutely. I try not to shill, but both CubeCoders AMP and StableBit DrivePool software are hands down some of the best inexpensive server and storage related software I've purchased. And CubeCoders has a hella good Discord Community, too.

[dawn tundra]

I didn't think this was tape I'm not exactly sure what it is but it's something I've never seen before

[haughty compass]

It says 2600mhz on windows when it's on

[azure topaz]

i bought it ~5 years ago when i was very young and i do not regret it

[haughty compass]

But all 4 sticks are 3000mhz

[dawn tundra]

I'm trying not to expose the tape to light

[azure topaz]

wwhat board/cpu?

[noble ermine]

Not all ram has embedded profiles, check the ram specs (which include timings) and set everything right if you don't get presets.

[dapper abyss]

My laptops

[haughty compass]

Asus prime b360m + i5 8400

• 4x 8gb Corsair vengeance pro 3000mhz

[forest lotus]

17% OC on my 6900XT is pretty goated. If I push closer to 20% it could put me in spitting range of a 4080

Stock 4080 ofc

[formal sonnet]

I also had 8GB in my HP ProDesk Mini PC initially. This was a bit anemic for a basic Minecraft server (less than 10 people) but upgrading to 12GB and then 16GB solved most of my issues once I started hosting lightly modded Minecraft. The CPU has now become the limiting factor. I hope to rectify this if I can snag a newer Dell Optiplex Micro system from work.

[azure topaz]

whelp tthats it rightt there

[haughty compass]

O what's the issue

[azure topaz]

b360+the 8400 cannot use 3000mhz memory

[haughty compass]

Ah...

[azure topaz]

highest speed is indeed 2666

[haughty compass]

😭

[azure topaz]

its no biggie, just wait until you can afford am5 before buying anything else

8400 should be capable enough

[haughty compass]

I see

[azure topaz]

oooooo

[dawn tundra]

@noble ermine

This should be good

Sorry for the poor quality of the image I was trying to keep them direct light off of it

[noble ermine]

Woah

[dawn tundra]

Yeah I know

[noble ermine]

It does seem like a digital tape cartridge

[dawn tundra]

I also had torn down another PC that also had a floppy drive in it and this one does as well but there's nothing inside

100 GB

[noble ermine]

But do you have a machine that takes it?

The tape cart

[dawn tundra]

No this is the only thing that I have and I but I'm pretty sure it should work

[noble ermine]

I mean it works but you need to grab the data and operate the internals

[dawn tundra]

Yes let me send you the computer I got

[haughty compass]

would i be worth it to buy something like the asus prime z390p for around $65 or like u said just save up?

[azure topaz]

naw just save

[azure topaz]

only like 300ish dollars is needed toget into am5

[dawn tundra]

I've been taking it apart to plug everything back in but I'm I have to get behind the motherboard I think but I can't also can't seem to find where to plug it in

[azure topaz]

board, ram, cpu

[haughty compass]

o wow

[azure topaz]

yeah its not too bad

[haughty compass]

thats a lot less than I expected

[noble ermine]

That system looks wild, what's the sh3lf like thing in the middle?

[azure topaz]

especially when you already have a kinda modern computer

[azure topaz]

airflow vent thing

[dawn tundra]

Yeah I know it's two psus

[azure topaz]

diverts air

[haughty compass]

my gpu tho 😭 its a gtx 1060 3gb

[azure topaz]

then get a gpu first, thats fine

[noble ermine]

That's the server you were talking about?

[dawn tundra]

Right now I'm trying to focus on plugging in some ribbon cables because I am plugged them to get a view at the tape

[azure topaz]

pick up a 9070xt and cope with it on the 8400 until you can buy am5 or somethin then

[dawn tundra]

Yes

[azure topaz]

or not eveen a 9070 and just something better likee a 3060

[noble ermine]

Nice, provided you can hook everything up it should work fine

[haughty compass]

where is the best place to look for gpus and like stuff like this? cus normally i just look on ebay

[dawn tundra]

Yeah I'm just needing to make sure that I put everything back together right and I'm trying to have hard to figure out how to find a slot to plug everything in because I can't find this four-pronged large thing slot I don't know

[noble ermine]

Oh, also if that's not the machine that used tape it probably needs drivers or something

[azure topaz]

yeah ebay, facebook marketplace, craigslist

[haughty compass]

woah a 9070 is so expensive

[dawn tundra]

Yeah it was already in there I just took it out

[azure topaz]

yeah but its modern (literally brand new)

[noble ermine]

Oh, perfect

[azure topaz]

and about as good as a 5070ti ish

[dawn tundra]

Let me give you an update photo of what the PC looks right now as I'm investigating

[azure topaz]

but thats also why i brought up other gpus that arent brand new but newer and better than a 1060 3

[haughty compass]

if I were to upgrade my gpu I would prob have to get a new psu as well

[dawn tundra]

I've been really careful

[azure topaz]

youd be surprised

[noble ermine]

Nice

[azure topaz]

if you have like a decent 550 or 650w you coulld probably leave it alone

or even a 450w if youre going for something like a 3060 or 4060

[noble ermine]

Also remember some drives have connectors that aren't necessary for operation

[azure topaz]

[dawn tundra]

Also I took apart another PC that I was able to get and I think it has the same CPU I think I might be able to put the other CPU slot to use

Oh crap I forgot about that

[azure topaz]

man thats old old

[dawn tundra]

06

[azure topaz]

idk man ddr2 was out by 2003

[dawn tundra]

Also from the other computer I got a GPU out of it

[azure topaz]

thats ddr bro

[dawn tundra]

Yeah it is ddr2

[noble ermine]

That's a secure storage unit, buddy, it's ok for it to be old

[azure topaz]

is it? looks weird

[noble ermine]

It uses tape

[azure topaz]

yo i understand that old is fine but this is kinda to the degree that its kinda useless besides just bein kinda neat

[dawn tundra]

Actually it has a DVD drive as well

[azure topaz]

i use a 10 year old workstation as my server

[azure topaz]

ecc? neat

[haughty compass]

opened up our old family pc

[dawn tundra]

Well it's also contains some data that might be important and interesting

[random gyro]

free dust filter

[azure topaz]

the dust makes the filter for the dust

[dawn tundra]

Yeah and it uses PCI and it uses three small boards

[azure topaz]

yeea owld

[haughty compass]

should I replace my thermal paste for the cpu? cus im not sure when I last repasted it

or if I ever even have

[dawn tundra]

Also the paste was still malleable whenever I took off the CPU from the other computer

It wasn't hard and crusty it was kind of like putty

I think it was thermal putty I think I'm just stupid

I also got two other hard drives that I want to put into this thing

Cuz everything should match up

[azure topaz]

not really if its not overheating

8400 doesnt draw a bunch of power and probably doesnt care anyways

[noble ermine]

U sure it wasn't an old industrial pad?

[dawn tundra]

Also it's the hot swap version which means it has two very easily interchangeable psus

[dawn tundra]

I don't know could have been

[azure topaz]

from 06? no way its probably some shitty thermal interace lol

hes prolly right and its some garbage putty

[dawn tundra]

The metal on the cooler was aluminum

Instead of copper

[noble ermine]

True, i think 06 is a while before long indurance pads

[azure topaz]

yea

tim was wildly shit back then

[dawn tundra]

But it also has two custom blower fans for this

[azure topaz]

any paste today will surely out perform it

[dawn tundra]

Actually never mind I didn't actually have to get behind the motherboard to plug this in it's already been plugged in I'm just an idiot

They're supposed to wipe the hard drives before they give the stuff out if they do but I mean I'm not looking for any classified information you know I mean

[haughty compass]

not sure if this is just a game issue or an indicator for something else, but when I play something cpu based like valorant I sometimes have random lag spikes, like every like 30-50s I will drop to like 0 fps for a milisecond + my fps goes down from around 200 when I first open the game to around 120 after an hour

[dawn tundra]

Everything was really easy to take apart it was pretty straightforward like it was built to be taken apart

[azure topaz]

oh maybe then, lol

[haughty compass]

the thing is then sometimes it just runs fine wihout any lag spikes (besides the fps becoming lower the longer i play)_

[azure topaz]

yeah that might be throttling a smidge may as well replace it

[haughty compass]

alr

that was the main reason I was thinking to replace the thermal paste

[dawn tundra]

@noble ermine so do you think I should put the GPU I got from the other computer into this one because it has an extra slot that's not being used up

Cuz I could absolutely do it

[noble ermine]

Servers are built for ease of access

[azure topaz]

is the other computer's gpu uhhh, pci?

[dawn tundra]

Yes

It's all the same stuff

[azure topaz]

fuck it we ball

[noble ermine]

If it fits, WHY NOT?

[azure topaz]

yeah exactly

[noble ermine]

Hehehe

[azure topaz]

this is the "its neat" part of the old server lol

[noble ermine]

What if there's some ancient cad planes in there

[dawn tundra]

Hell yeah also the other CPU of fits in the slot and I'm pretty sure it should work should we try that too?

[haughty compass]

would something like thermal grizzly hydronaut be fine?

[sinful cobalt]

big thanks to nvidia for fkin up my wifi connection -_-

[azure topaz]

get duronaut or NTH2

[dawn tundra]

I'm not exactly sure when the building that owned the deed fell over

But it could be around the time

[noble ermine]

I mean, tape in a plane manufacturer

[dawn tundra]

Yeah

[noble ermine]

Might very well be cad planes

[dawn tundra]

Oh and let's not forget the floppy drive

They made mostly two-seater and one seater light air craft

[unborn condor]

i don't understand, is this mobo just a normal ATX mobo? because I have a micro ATX mobo rn so I think I'd need a new case yeah? https://www.newegg.com/msi-b650-gaming-plus-wifi-atx-amd-b650-am5/p/N82E16813144628?Item=N82E16813144628&_gl=1*6h8rxa*_gcl_au*MTc2Nzc4NTI5OC4xNzM5MTMzODk4*_ga*ODEyODc3MzA1LjE3MzkxMzM4OTk.*_ga_TR46GG8HLR*MTc0MjAxNDE4Mi40LjEuMTc0MjAxNTIyNi4wLjAuMTE1NjMxNzM5NQ..

[dawn tundra]

If you want to look up the company it's Magellan aerospace

[noble ermine]

Which shows they moved that data regularly (probably critical data)

[dawn tundra]

Yeah

[noble ermine]

I bet it's technical plans, at least

[dawn tundra]

I think I also have another drive that will probably fit in the server like another reader

But they also use stuff from the '30s like drills and whatnot machinery

I've been in the whole factory it's pretty cool

You don't make the planes anymore

They

[noble ermine]

Dude, old machines rock as far as industrial machinery goes

[dawn tundra]

But they make missile fins for the am5 missiles as well as the three

[noble ermine]

Nice

They're aerospace but not planes, cool

[dawn tundra]

Yeah my dad works in the I don't know what department it is but it's pretty cool it's air conditioned he got the only air conditioner in place on the floor with along with one other guy

[noble ermine]

I love missile design, it's so streamlined and straightforward

[dawn tundra]

Well not planes anymore

[noble ermine]

The only AC?

[unborn condor]

Was going to get this for this mobo

[dawn tundra]

Yeah it's a for a special machine

[noble ermine]

Ah, i see, they use it functionally, not for comfort

[dawn tundra]

I had to bend the depends on the cover of the tape drive to get the top lid open so I could look inside and it's not staying on but it should be fine I should just be able to screw it back on

[noble ermine]

Cool

Not a problem if it still can be attached

[dawn tundra]

The only concern I have about the tape drive is the faceplate is missing and there's no eject button

[noble ermine]

Those aren't meant for ejection

They're like super stable hdds

That's why there's a floppy drive

[vital mist]

Is a rtx 3080 still worth it and can you really get them for around 400 bucks USD?

[wispy thunder]

MATX would have an M after the chipset, like "B650M"

[dawn tundra]

Oh

That makes so much more sense

[wispy thunder]

3080 is worth it, closer to 250 bucks

[mellow cairn]

Lol I bought a 3080ti well over 2 years ago for $500 usd

[sinful cobalt]

400 bucks usd for a 3080 is a ripoff

[noble ermine]

Yeah, they're used in massive redundant critical storage facilities nowadays

[unborn condor]

So this new case would work with this new motherboard?

[noble ermine]

(Locally redundant, like multiple locations)

[dawn tundra]

There's also this driver that I found that's smaller than a DVD drive it looks like it takes HDD but it has rollers in it

[haughty compass]

just wanting to make sure, whats the difference between these 2 temps on hwmonitor/ which one should I be looking at for overal cpu temps

[noble ermine]

Probably for small hdds if it has those connections

[vital mist]

I just thought it would be too good to be true.

[noble ermine]

The sata and whatnot

[azure topaz]

use hwinfo and use package temp

[dawn tundra]

I didn't see any kind of connector it just looks like you slide it in whatever it is

[azure topaz]

hwmonitor is old and generally doesnt read the sensors accurately

[dawn tundra]

I think I can put that in this computer as well

[wispy thunder]

yes

[noble ermine]

If there is no visible connector it's probably just a slot for something

[dawn tundra]

Also there's more RAM that should fit in the computer just enough space for all four others

[dawn tundra]

It has a flap and eject button as well as three lights

[wispy thunder]

What case do you do you have tho @unborn condor

[dawn tundra]

I'm guessing one for power one for processing and one for something else

[unborn condor]

Isn't there some website where you can find what fans are best for your computer depending on the case?

[noble ermine]

Sure there's no connectors inside, on the walls?

[dawn tundra]

Yeah let me get a picture of it in a minute whenever I bring it down

Let me get another picture of one of these PCI slot things

[noble ermine]

Show me the slot with the wheels, i'm curious

[haughty compass]

ok i installed it. which temp is the one I should be looking at for general cpu temps?

[azure topaz]

CPU package

[unborn condor]

It's a Phanteks P840A but I'm gonna be taking my older parts and building a PC for my roommate

[supple gull]

non-aRGB

[haughty compass]

under dts or enhanced?

[unborn condor]

Idgaf about aesthetic at all

[dawn tundra]

All right I'm going to go grab the bag with the other parts

[azure topaz]

either work tbh, i think enhanced is the most accurate

[supple gull]

then get a cheaper case

[unborn condor]

any you recommend? That was the cheapest I saw

[haughty compass]

alr ill load into a game and see what temps are like. based on what ive read online it should be ≈80° under load

[dawn tundra]

Also I have an image of all the parts I got from the other PC

[noble ermine]

That's an interface board btw

[supple gull]

are you not in NA?

[unborn condor]

I am in America yes

[wispy thunder]

P400A?

[unborn condor]

Yeah that's the one sorry

[supple gull]

just searcg pc case ARGB and set a price limit of like 75

[noble ermine]

Two hdds, one interface board and some ram sticks

Nice

[supple gull]

there's ones at 50-60

[unborn condor]

i mean I don't mind paying like $30 extra for a better case. i'm all ready spending nearly $1000 on the other stuff

[dawn tundra]

I thought that was some kind of GPU but I'm not sure

[supple gull]

I'm a cheap ass so up to you (:

[noble ermine]

I don't think it is, not with that internal connector

Doesn't it connect to that stack, prehaps?

The metal thing

[wispy thunder]

you don't need a new case

if anything you can get a really cheap matx case for your roommate instead

[supple gull]

https://www.newegg.com/black-sama-sv-series-atx-mid-tower/p/2AM-009W-00074

Two glass sided ones like this also appeal to me more

[wispy thunder]

send picture of the pc build rn

[azure topaz]

scsi card lol

[unborn condor]

the mobo is ATX tho not micro ATX

[dawn tundra]

No that was an HDD drive rack

[azure topaz]

its scsi

[noble ermine]

Ah, ok, but indeed, its that

[azure topaz]

so yeah could be for disks

[noble ermine]

As i said, interface

[azure topaz]

yeah

[noble ermine]

Check if that ribbon on the stack fits or something

It probably interfaced with drives or something

[dawn tundra]

This x2

[wispy thunder]

that's why I want you to send a picture - P400A is an ATX case so you'd actually have a tiny motherboard with unused standoff spots in that P400a if it was matx

[azure topaz]

yes

so yes it totally is for the drives lol

[unborn condor]

hold on, one sec

[noble ermine]

Damn, that hdd top looks SICK

[dawn tundra]

So should I put it in

The interface board

[azure topaz]

very low chance those drives work today if we're being real but sure

[noble ermine]

If it fits and something interfaces with it, sure.

[azure topaz]

both of them probably have the clickies of death but we'll see

[unborn condor]

I'll be damned, you're 100% right

[noble ermine]

Indeed, tape is far stabler.

[unborn condor]

https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-eclipse-p400a-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854085?Item=N82E16811854085&_gl=1*94rym7*_gcl_au*MTc2Nzc4NTI5OC4xNzM5MTMzODk4*_ga*ODEyODc3MzA1LjE3MzkxMzM4OTk.*_ga_TR46GG8HLR*MTc0MjAxNDE4Mi40LjEuMTc0MjAxNjMzOC4wLjAuMTE1NjMxNzM5NQ..

It's this one

[azure topaz]

yeah atx mid tower bro

[mellow cairn]

Goddamn that's old as fuck

[unborn condor]

I'm using a AsRock B550M Pro4 mobo atm

[azure topaz]

yea i think 10 years now but look what theyre talking about now lol

[unborn condor]

Wow this whole time I've been using the wrong case, hilarious

[noble ermine]

When HDDs don't die after retirement they just get corrupted, like badly

[unborn condor]

Suppose I'll just keep this case then

[mellow cairn]

Way more than 10 years. 10 years ago was still sas.

[azure topaz]

OH i thought you replied to my workstation image oops

[mellow cairn]

What?

[azure topaz]

yeah its old af. guy in chat said earlier the server its from is from 06

[noble ermine]

They do, man, don't start.

[mellow cairn]

You aren't making sense

[noble ermine]

HDDs get corrupted if the data doesn't get regularly rewritten, HDDs don't last forever, stop annoying me.

[dawn tundra]

I'm trying to remove the bottom cover plate so that I can put the other interface board in but it doesn't seem to want to come off it's on there good I don't know how to get these little lock looking things off

[mellow cairn]

Yeah... Not really. Also you said "retired".

[dawn tundra]

I opened them

[noble ermine]

Retired as in not in active use, as in not getting written.

[mellow cairn]

Also there is a different between data being lost or corrupted and "the HDD being corrupted"

[mellow cairn]

That isn't how hard drives work.

[noble ermine]

Oh, really, god of knowledge? What do you call an HDD that is no longer used because the company upgraded?

Stop with your pedantism, seriously.

[mellow cairn]

They will have data loss very very slightly (because physics) regardless of them being used or not

[noble ermine]

Nope, rewriting keeps data integrity for as long as the drive is operational.

[dawn tundra]

There's this weird multi-ribbon table for like HDD kind of connections and I had them connected to the other readers but they are kind of in a mess and I'm not sure if I should in what order or whatever I'm guessing just go as short as possible and then plug the one that was plugged in at the very top back in because that one has something at the end of it that looks kind of interesting

[mellow cairn]

What is rewriting this data, precisely

[azure topaz]

the one at the end is probably a scsi terminator

cause scsi sucked and didnt suck at the same time

[noble ermine]

Well, if it fits it fits. Plug it, buddy.

[mellow cairn]

You know just enough to be dangerous.

[dawn tundra]

A lot of this stuff says foxconn

I'm guessing it was a popular brand at the time

Like most of the cables

Not really much else

[azure topaz]

foxconn is still a popular brand lol

[mellow cairn]

Foxconn make connectors.

[frail delta]

And also a lot more than connectors 😆

[dawn tundra]

Huh

[mellow cairn]

I mean, yeah, but in this context, it's connectors 🙂

[formal sonnet]

Um... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn

[noble ermine]

I will not waste my time on you anymore, anyone who claims to have 20 years of experience shouldn't be making such obtuse pedantic questions.

[dawn tundra]

I'm not sure what that thing is at the end

[noble ermine]

The box thing?

[azure topaz]

scsi terminator yo

[dawn tundra]

Yes

[mellow cairn]

Dude... You are talking shit you don't understand. Hard drives do not spontaneously rewrite data.

[noble ermine]

Yeah, terminator

[dawn tundra]

Oh so it like stops the flow and makes it go backwards or something

[azure topaz]

im literally younger than this hardware how do i know this

[noble ermine]

Ofc not, they’re not magical, enough.

[dawn tundra]

I don't know man this is my first time experiencing this tech

[mellow cairn]

... So what causes the rewriting?

You're telling me data needs to be rewritten to work, what does it?

[noble ermine]

I'm not your tutor.

[dawn tundra]

So how do I remove this lock on this last PCI slot

[frail delta]

Because most of the things you know about have been around longer than you, it's nothing out of the ordinary really

[noble ermine]

No, i'm saying over LONG PERIODS OF INACTIVITY the data in hdds needs to be regularly rewritten.

[mellow cairn]

You can't explain it because you don't know shit about fuck and you're talking out of your ass by conflating different things you've read

[noble ermine]

That is no secret.

[mellow cairn]

Absolute garbage

[noble ermine]

I'm just tired of you

You always come and ask obtuse qustions to make yourself feel good, it's tiresome.

I'm not paid to teach you and I don't feel like doing it for free.

[formal sonnet]

Respectfully, not true. I have 15+ year old 500GB HDDs that still contain the same data as when I last transferred my PS2 game backups Linux ISOs to them ... over 15 years ago.

[unborn condor]

Who makes the best case fans these days? Noctua?

[noble ermine]

Take your 20 years of experience and do your research.

[noble ermine]

So, have you checked the entire dataset for corruption?

[frail delta]

Would this not just (by a teeny tiny bit) accelerate the degradation of the data?

[tidal geyser]

Arctic pst I think it was called

[mellow cairn]

My friends dunning and Kruger would like a word

[mellow cairn]

Literally yes.

"hey Google how does zfs scrub work"

[tidal geyser]

And degradation of the hardware

[formal sonnet]

Yup. Verified them against my old CRC + MD5 hash records. Back when I thought it was "cool" and "important" to keep such records. 🤣

[noble ermine]

Nope, this assumes redundancy, if the data is important enough to be saved it's important enough to be in a redundant way

[tidal geyser]

Redundancy costs money

[noble ermine]

Not enough, i'm considering critical data where every single bit counts, that's not it and hashing won't really detect it.

[tidal geyser]

Xd

[frail delta]

lol

[mellow cairn]

So you don't understand hashing either?

[tidal geyser]

Man got no clue how it works

[noble ermine]

A single flipped bit in a really critical dataset can break an entire thing, not my problem you don't get it.

[mellow cairn]

Oh dude.

[noble ermine]

People don't build massive redundant arrays for no reason.

[azure topaz]

whats redundancy

[formal sonnet]

Yeah... this conversation isn't worth it. Time to crack a beer, then go see if an unclaimed Meraki MS220 switch will let me locally configure it and keep it's local config between reboots.

[tidal geyser]

They do it for hardware failure

[azure topaz]

🫡 lets gooo

[mellow cairn]

.... And massive redundant arrays still don't "regularly rewrite their data"

[noble ermine]

A simplistic reductive view.

[mellow cairn]

Source: I admin massive redundant arrays

[noble ermine]

If you say so, oh almighty bob, the god of all tech knowledge

[mellow cairn]

I mean literally yes. I know more about this than you. That was never in contention.

[frail delta]

Do not mock almighty Bob, the god of all tech knowledge

[noble ermine]

U happy, is your ego properly stroked?

Now enough.

[arctic kettle]

He kinda is tho

[mellow cairn]

Ironically, it isn't about ego, it's about being correct and not talking shit you don't understand

[noble ermine]

No, he isn't

[arctic kettle]

Lol

[noble ermine]

Not at all

[mellow cairn]

Your argument is compelling and rich

[arctic kettle]

Not actually but he knows more than 99% of people on this server minimum.

[wispy thunder]

nah it's all good, I'd say honestly just reuse that case...

oh it's Danyon again

[noble ermine]

Dude creeps on the chats waiting for someone to say something he doesn't understand properly and then come up with limited knowledge that fits his limited view, it's quite ridiculous

[thorn pewter]

Bro this is THE hardwarebob you are talking too, not ur avg joe shmow in this server, a guy who probably know at least 3x as you do, he isn't a god of knowledge, ur just dumb and he just knows more, stop it with your childish behavior

[noble ermine]

Idc

[wispy thunder]

weren't you the one who defied physics?

[noble ermine]

Nope, my system does not break Shannon's theorem (which is extremely limited)

[wispy thunder]

Some compression that could effectively turn a gigabyte into a couple bytes?

[tidal geyser]

Mmm no he has a job where he has side monitors to put things like this discord where he can chat when he is bored

[mellow cairn]

Oooh you're the infinite compression guy

[noble ermine]

Yep

[tidal geyser]

Xd

[drifting crow]

whats a good white 850w psu

[azure topaz]

rm 850x

[unborn condor]

so that MSI B650 will perfectly fit in my phanteks p400a?

[noble ermine]

Idc, man, read what i said, nobody who does that deserves respect

[dawn tundra]

I got the picture of that thing

[wispy thunder]

yep

[drifting crow]

thanks

[tidal geyser]

Yes

[wispy thunder]

you didn't care about his respect, what's the point?

[bronze jay]

does rgb on linux just suck

[azure topaz]

let me look and make sure its not priced bad

[bronze jay]

I was really enjoying signalrgb

[unborn condor]

aight dope ty. would you happen to know what the best fan configuration would be for it? or where I could find out?

[noble ermine]

I'm sure i've seen that... No idea.

[drifting crow]

ok

[tidal geyser]

Floppy drive

[azure topaz]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zF4Zxr/msi-mag-a850gl-pcie5-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mag-a850gl-pcie5
instead

[dawn tundra]

No

[drifting crow]

ok

[dawn tundra]

It's not there's already one on there

[thorn pewter]

@noble ermine quick advice for you, if you are being honest with yourself, then hop off of discord, everyone will be happy 😁

[dawn tundra]

Much thinner

[noble ermine]

What? Dude doesn't respect anyone without a massive resume, how can I care?

[dawn tundra]

No he's cool the other guy started it I was there for it

[mellow cairn]

Even better, he defied math. And doesn't understand what a proof is.

[dawn tundra]

Hardware Bob keeps pestering this guy

This is like the fifth time this has happened

[wispy thunder]

just three in three out, you can adjust fan speed as needed

front in top and back out

[thorn pewter]

Idk about that but he is being a slight annoying tho

[noble ermine]

Dude slithers around discord looking for people to bully, it is foul.

[unborn condor]

there's space for about like, 5 fans for the front and top, and two in the back.

[tidal geyser]

He does not

[noble ermine]

He literally and most certainly does.

[wispy thunder]

you know, the magic on the online world is you can always block someone you don't like

[mellow cairn]

Either that or you're loudly and obviously wrong. I mean, let's see

[noble ermine]

Not here.

[dawn tundra]

@noble ermine I can't seem to get one of the interface boards back in

[bronze jay]

What are we even arguing about

[noble ermine]

His messages still show prompts

[tidal geyser]

If you are able to provide proof for your claims then that would help to support your argument.

[bronze jay]

This looks like a waste of time

[dawn tundra]

I may need some help

Never mind I just had to push it harder

It just slid right in

[noble ermine]

Everyone saw it happen, dude couldn't believe someone discovered something he would never be capable of discovering and he flipped of in a 50 message long pedantic rant composed of obtuse questions, google links and limited sources.

Nice

[noble ermine]

HardwareBob isn't LTT, sorry, bud.

He is nothing as far as i'm concerned

[bronze jay]

this? This is the argument?

[wispy thunder]

then treat him as nothing

[noble ermine]

Nope, way older

[wispy thunder]

if he means nothing to you then stop taking what he says personally

[bronze jay]

Because that doesn't even apply to flash memory. You just need to power it every 10 years iirc

[noble ermine]

I literally am, i'm just pointing out to you that your champion is a fraud

[wispy thunder]

no I stand for myself

[bronze jay]

Aren't hard drives supposed to be super stable or is that just floppy discs

[tidal geyser]

Ok so what sis you discover that he did not?

[noble ermine]

Good, so don't treat anyone as a god of knowmedge.

[wispy thunder]

you had like 5 different people going from 5 different angles about how you were wrong in every possible way

it was funny

[noble ermine]

Tape, it's TAPE, digital tape storage, Linus has a video on it, watch it.

[bronze jay]

Someone please tell me what the argument is about so I can go to bed. I just want to know

[dawn tundra]

11#I was just afraid to break the slot

Just had to push a little harder

[bronze jay]

Ty. I will.

[tidal geyser]

I just woke up from a 9hr nap

[noble ermine]

But didn't, right?

[unborn condor]

thermalright peerless assassin 120SE good enough for a 9950X3D?

Not overclocking it tbh

[tidal geyser]

Yes

[solar moat]

whats better r3 4300 or i7 4790k?

[azure topaz]

better in what way

[wispy thunder]

he said he invented a compression algorithm that defies physics and the basic principles of computers and attacked anyone who said he was full of bs

[empty quartz]

@wispy thunder i have realized the downside of my custom loop

[bronze jay]

What..

[tidal geyser]

Am4 da best but i7 4790k with a oc or not should be better

[azure topaz]

i would rather have a 4300 based computer but not because the 4300 is good

[dawn tundra]

How do I get this expansion slot cover off

[azure topaz]

yeah this

[dawn tundra]

It's being very very resistant

[bronze jay]

I mean publish your findings

[azure topaz]

am4 isnt the best but the 4790k is probably going to be better

[wispy thunder]

says big tech will steal it

[azure topaz]

id rather an am4 platform than an 1150 platform tho

[bronze jay]

If you really did something spectacular then discord isn't worth your time

[noble ermine]

Also one last disclaimer on the subject, current hdds are extremely stable, unlike their old counterparts, of which even the sectors had to be rewritten dpending on the model, don't think that just because the HDD platters you get now outlast the heads that that has always been the case.

[mellow cairn]

That's a funny way of saying what you claim to have discovered is literally proven impossible in a mathematical proof.

[bronze jay]

Interesting. Ty.

[empty quartz]

still funny how much people underestimate the 4790k

[tidal geyser]

Got any sources to back this up

[azure topaz]

well it has avx 2 and overclocks pretty well nobody should underestimate it

and FIVR is really good

[noble ermine]

Buddy, DYOR.

[bronze jay]

I need to figure out how to mirror my taskbar onto my secondary monitor in linux mint like how it works in windows

[empty quartz]

remember on the dawid server how much people would say my 1080 was getting held back?

[frail delta]

Trust me bro

[tidal geyser]

I have tested em before and it's OK for modern use without messing too much with it but I think disable spectre and meltdown protection and it would be way faster

[noble ermine]

I'm Not under any obligation to explain anything to anyone, especially PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE.

[mellow cairn]

"do your own research"
that's what you say, then if I bother to do a basic wikipedia search that shows you're full of shit, all I can do is "post links"

[wispy thunder]

filth?

[azure topaz]

i mean, my 7700k would hold back my 1080 it just depends on the specific game/usecase

but yes

[mellow cairn]

"I don't need to backup my arguments, but you do"

[tidal geyser]

Yeah I'm not asking you to explain it

[noble ermine]

Good

[bronze jay]

I did my own research on the vaccine. Decided I wanted to become magnetic and gay. Didn't work. Gutted.

[azure topaz]

so yall like ram overclocking

[tidal geyser]

Soo got any links

[empty quartz]

no, takes much longer for my room to warm up because the coolant is 30c

[noble ermine]

Buddy, i'm on my phone, as i said, do your own research, takes like 2 seconds

[mellow cairn]

I became autism. I mean. I was already autism, but hey, success?!

[azure topaz]

thats not physics

[noble ermine]

Ask chat gpt to explain

[tidal geyser]

No I wanna read the same sources as you

[unborn condor]

man a 9950x3D with 7900XTX and 64gigs of 6000mhz DDR5, I wonder what I'll be able to run cyberpunk at with my 1080p monitor LMFAO

[thorn pewter]

Iirc , the way hdds even work, natural particles in the sky and shi may flip the magnetic poles that stores in the HDD, I think that's how that happens that "curroupts" hdds idk @azure topaz tell me if I a right, am pulling this all out of my ass here so

[mellow cairn]

oooh, that must be your problem. You use an AI to tell you you're correct. awesome!

[noble ermine]

Well, good luck, i don't write down everything i consume onto a little notebook.

[latent pasture]

this sounds like he totally chatgpted it lmao

[tidal geyser]

How does that combo make sense

[thorn pewter]

69420fps

[latent pasture]

good thing your browser does and calls it history

[unborn condor]

Wym

[dawn tundra]

Hey how about you just ignore them and we can focus on the pool stuff

[mellow cairn]

that is correct - data degrades at a steady rate, but it also is regardless of being used.

[wispy thunder]

LOL first world problems bruh

[azure topaz]

jesus bro he was reading books from the 70s theres no history smh

[noble ermine]

No, i'm saying if you're so unmotivated you need me to show you sources on something so simple and well estabilished you might aswell ask chat gpt.

[empty quartz]

😔 ✊

[latent pasture]

YEP GOTEM he did chatgpt it lmfao

[empty quartz]

gaslight gpt

[tidal geyser]

A amd gpu but a lot of ram and a lot of cores, this is not a gaming pc this is kinda both but mostly gaming focused since amd just sucks for a lot of things outside of gaming compared to nvidia, so what will be the actual use foe it

[noble ermine]

No, man, i'm just too tired at 3 am to do research i already did for someone else

[mellow cairn]

I mean, chat GPT is a great way to check your thesis, if you're wrong

[noble ermine]

Sorry

[thorn pewter]

Oh yeah yeah, and also that's prob the reason maybe the first 5 MB HDD might've been very bad and they go bye bye fast right?

[tidal geyser]

To do reaserch

[unborn condor]

Gaming lmfao I'll also be doing music stuff on it but that don't take much of anything for what I do. But yeah man the 7900XTX is a fuckin monster of a GPU

[noble ermine]

Remind me tomorrow if you haven't researched it yourself by then

[mellow cairn]

yeah I mean it gets more complicated, but basically, for almost all hard drives almost all of the time, they are FAIRLY stable, and depending on where they are, can retain data for many years.

[tidal geyser]

You just send me the same link you were on when reading about it

[mellow cairn]

The complexities of long term storage come also from the chips and firmware that run the hard drive.

[tidal geyser]

Soo why the 9950x3d

[unborn condor]

Best CPU I can get

[noble ermine]

I don't read anything on a single source and take it as fact, and most importantly i don't log every single text, audio and video I consume, stop making insane demands

[solar moat]

if gaming just get 9800x3d

[latent pasture]

your browser does

[azure topaz]

buy a 9800x3d 😭

[tidal geyser]

For gaming that would be the 9800x3d

[mellow cairn]

so far you have provided exact zero sources for ANYTHING, so you know, go off.

[unborn condor]

I thought with the recent firmware updates the 9950X3D started handling games better than the 9800x3D?

[noble ermine]

In this time you could have googled it, checked 4 or 5 reputable sources and be fine, do you see what I mean? I'm not wasting my precious time on such a silly expositive exercise.

[tidal geyser]

How

[azure topaz]

it is basically no different

[solar moat]

since its clocked 200mhz higher

[latent pasture]

do you need the non x3d cores for production workloads?
bc if ur gaming, the r9 x3ds restrict it to using only the x3d ccd to avoid ccd latency
...so might as well get 9800x3d

[solar moat]

but not worth paying for the extra 8cores your not useing

[tidal geyser]

The 9950x3d is just a 9800x3d and 9700x glued together

[solar moat]

the x3d ccd is 200mhz higher

[unborn condor]

well shit, guess I might get the 9800x3d then

[mellow cairn]

"why does everyone disagree with me? It couldn't POSSIBLY be because I'm wrong!"

[tidal geyser]

Ok with the x3d side being a bit OCd

[unborn condor]

I don't do production or whatever no

[latent pasture]

so get 9800x3d

[thorn pewter]

That's true unless you dropped a very important 4yb HDD you had everything on and ur very sad and cry all ur data is gone

[solar moat]

3% faster MUST PAY 50% MORE

[mellow cairn]

that's a skill issue right there 🙂

[azure topaz]

backups

[tidal geyser]

And have a chance to be using a 9700x worth of performance

[mellow cairn]

a) one copy of data b) handling it

[latent pasture]

when ur gaming the cpu literally sleeps the non x3d cores so the games dont accidentally call to it
so ur left using the 8 cores with 3d cache...which is just a 9800x3d

[dapper light]

I see this guy is still trying to get validation from random discord user on his law of physics breaking compression algorithm that TOTALLY exists instead of patenting and selling it to Microsoft?

[unborn condor]

fair enough

[tidal geyser]

Yes

[dapper light]

Didn't he do this a week ago

[tidal geyser]

Probs

[mellow cairn]

yeah he should be rich by now.

[noble ermine]

Nope, wasn't talking about it at all, jealous buddy.

[thorn pewter]

I didn't have at the time, I hate myself for that 😭

[thorn pewter]

Mf was a fat 4tb western digital HDD so yk these fuckers way a ton

[mellow cairn]

However his compression algorithm is written on old newspaper and looks like this

[dapper light]

Gotta implement that rule like on X where obvious engagement bait gets you banned

[unborn condor]

i suppose a 9800x3D, 7900XTX, 64gb 6000mhz RAM, with a 1000w PSU won't be that bad of a gaming rig

[noble ermine]

Bob gon get yeeted instantly from everywhere with his pedantic ragebaiting.

[mellow cairn]

oh no, not the dropping part per se, that you put yourself in that position. It was a good learning experience

[mellow cairn]

aw honey, it's ok

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/what-happened-what-happened-to-you-as-a-child-what-kind-of-trauma-makes-you-act-like-this-stare-stare-cat-gif-2454779732634892782

[thorn pewter]

I mean I hope I didn't break it, I simply drop it, then the head didn't spin nothing came sound when I plugged it in

[noble ermine]

HardwareBob

[thorn pewter]

So idk is it ded prob, will I get it back🙅‍♀️

[latent pasture]

bob must live rent free in ur head that even tho everyone already moved on to a different topic u felt the need to send this message

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-no-u-no-you-reverse-uno-uno-gif-22508660

[noble ermine]

No, but I know once the system goes public i'll own his.

😉

[tidal geyser]

System goes public?

[latent pasture]

aww honey dont be so mad

[junior valve]

does this gpu has a good bin? its over 100mhz faster than a overcooled one

[thorn pewter]

I'll post memes till this thing is over

[noble ermine]

Dude, if ai could just invent stuff it would, there's no point in asking an AI about a concept that isn't public yet.

[mellow cairn]

and that's with AI making it as soft as possible, rather than simply saying "hahahhahaha, ur rong" like it should

[noble ermine]

It doesn't know about it.

[neat flame]

real

[dapper light]

Ask grok

[tidal geyser]

So show us the white paper

[unborn condor]

I really wonder what I'll be able to run cp2077 at, I do have a 1080p 165hz monitor, would I be able to do ultra at that frame rate?

[neat flame]

tbh i find the summation harder than integral

[mellow cairn]

a concept that is not possible, and being hocked by a mentally unstable guy in some random discord

[noble ermine]

No, i won't, i was clear about this before, you got the early hint, not the full description.

[azure topaz]

you dont understand how gpu boost works

[noble ermine]

Cope and seethe.

[junior valve]

y

[latent pasture]

no, looking at some tests with xtx gets 110-150 depending on area
and thats just 1080p ultra no raytracing yet

[azure topaz]

the rated boost clock is the boost clock before any of the newer boost algorithm is applied

[unborn condor]

with 9800x3D?

[azure topaz]

thats the boost clock listed in the vbios

not what the card will do in normal operation

[dapper light]

Cyberpunk feels like a major case of mistaking really good graphics = realism kek

[wispy thunder]

I copied pasted your initial claim and your "basic" explanation of its workings into chatgpt and they said highly improbable

[junior valve]

my stock clock is already abit higher than normal so idk

[unborn condor]

not really that but it's a great stress test

[azure topaz]

brother

[wispy thunder]

ngl I think chatgpt would be better at coding assembly than you

[azure topaz]

you dont know but i do 😭 im tellin you thats how it works

[dapper light]

While it looks good, i can guarantee most people can distinguish cyberpunk and irl.
Unlike say microsoft flight sim where you need to have second long look

[noble ermine]

Ofc, it doesn't know how it works, if it did it wouldn't be a fin invention, would it, brainiac?

[latent pasture]

well the guy tested with 7800x3d
but its already 99% gpu usage and the cpu is in the 60s%

[azure topaz]

also unless you were manually overclocking there would be no way to tell if its a good bin 😭 gpu boost also doesnt work that way

[unborn condor]

do you have a link? I'd like to see that

[wispy thunder]

didn't you tell me to use chatgpt tho...

[noble ermine]

Not on this

[thorn pewter]

Oh btw

Td I saw a big bug

[noble ermine]

Telling this to chat gpt is an exercise in futility, if you had the full description any model would validate it.

[mellow cairn]

"I invented a thing that is not thought to be improbable, not thought to be impossible, but PROVEN to be impossible, and I want you to take me at my word, despite being a rambling crazy person who clearly doesn't understand core concepts of what I claim to be talking about"

[thorn pewter]

Am so happy (change of pace from toxic arguments)

[wispy thunder]

yes?

[dapper light]

We shouldn't keep feeding this obvious troll

[latent pasture]

https://youtu.be/rvveQdbLf6E?si=_u1OpkA-qPHTtqol&t=68

[noble ermine]

Not about this

[wispy thunder]

Yo drop ur github

[noble ermine]

That message was in reference to a difrerent subject, scroll further.

[unborn condor]

that's still pretty good

[mellow cairn]

You also claimed that hashing won't detect errors. I don't think you understand how hashing works.

[noble ermine]

Do you really fin think i'm making the most powerful compression ever open source? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHSH

[thorn pewter]

Oh btw, I didn't get any slush, too sugary for 1:14 am

[tidal geyser]

No

[junior valve]

so whats the normal boost after the rated boost then

[wispy thunder]

wait "do you really fin think..." huh?

[thorn pewter]

My guy who laughs like this in text

[tidal geyser]

But you can at least give us a white paper or something

[noble ermine]

Exactly, nothing to post on git.

[latent pasture]

well it is but its not 1080p 165

[wispy thunder]

sorry I'm being pedantic here what does that acc mean

[thorn pewter]

Now am hungry

What should I eat, me at home rn

[mellow cairn]

donuts

[unborn condor]

man FSR3 really is something huh? is the artifacting really noticable enough for it to be useless or?

[thorn pewter]

I don't have any😭

[tidal geyser]

Make some

[thorn pewter]

Plus I don't like too sugary stuff at night

[noble ermine]

Literal pedantism.

[mellow cairn]

use infinite compression to make them out of nothing

[noble ermine]

You learned well from your sith master. Get ignored like him.

[thorn pewter]

At 1:14 am??? Too sugary

[wispy thunder]

explain then what does "fin" mean?

[azure topaz]

thats the kicker bro

[latent pasture]

if ur getting xtx u can play anything without needing frame gen rly

[thorn pewter]

I have a sort of sweet tooth but still

[azure topaz]

the gpu dynamically "overclocks" itself based on temp/voltage/power points

[thorn pewter]

Am thinking sum savory to eat

[azure topaz]

if you press control+f in afterburner you can see these points

[junior valve]

i see

[thorn pewter]

But idk what tho

[unborn condor]

if i wanna max out my 1080p 165hz monitor i just might

[latent pasture]

i mean just dont go into dogtown lmoa

[azure topaz]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/5g9jo9/gpu_boost_30_how_it_works/

[junior valve]

but dont the founders have better bins than the aib parters or smt?

[tidal geyser]

Mine does that at 1440p well if it was 165hz

[azure topaz]

thats way not true anymore

[mellow cairn]

"I made a thing that is impossible, and being negative about it is being pedantic"

[azure topaz]

https://skatterbencher.com/nvidia-gpu-boost-3-0/

[tidal geyser]

But mine is 240 and tend to max out most games

Welp I have better things to do

[thorn pewter]

Yk what

[unborn condor]

Thank you for the insight

[thorn pewter]

I'll try to make lasagna tmrw

Dead ass

[noble ermine]

This is really interesting.

[latent pasture]

do u want fps for the smoothness or the latency
bc fg only does the former

[unborn condor]

smoothness yes

[azure topaz]

its ancient surprised more people dont know how this tech works lol

[unborn condor]

latency is up to the monitor no?

[azure topaz]

its not very good at dynamically overclocking but hey it is still gpu boost

[thorn pewter]

Lasagna as the main dish, what else should I cook with it

Am thinking sum like healthy 😉

[dapper light]

Triple big mac, very healthy.

[spiral nova]

Hey guys, I was thinking of unlocking the bootloader of a redmi 9 power I have, can anyone help with that? I've tried following YT tutorials but it appears I am missing something

[noble ermine]

Oh, I see, it's THE boost. I didn't know it had a name like that. Cool, nice to know.

[thorn pewter]

I am very open about never eating in fast foods nor in restaurants

[azure topaz]

yeah its literall,ly just the basic underlying tech on how nv gpus function

[thorn pewter]

Well almost never , maybe a couple times and that's it

[azure topaz]

voltage/power/temp

[dapper light]

Lunchly a week before expiration date

[thorn pewter]

Maybe a salad to do with the lasagna, by what salad should I make

[noble ermine]

True, i thought it was always part of their stuff but apparently started in the 400 series.

[azure topaz]

the rated boost clock is what youll see at the worst possible condition of a 3dworkload

well, nvidias description of the worst possible condition