tech-chat-1

[wraith bone]

found this amazing "B-stock" deal what arctic calls it to sell their products which are barely used or "open box" , grab them for people where they ship it https://www.arctic.de/en/Liquid-Freezer-III-420-B-Stock/ACFRE00137AB https://www.arctic.de/en/Liquid-Freezer-III-360-B-Stock/ACFRE00136AB

[random gyro]

LOL

[cunning flume]

error 0x80070643 happes when downloading my disscord update or launchin microsoft sroe nayone knows why

[turbid shore]

Can anyone help me with these options ?

[empty quartz]

What are you trying to do

People cant help unless they know what you’re trying to do

[forest lotus]

Man I hate that I got rid of a one of a kind laptop

Static shock ended up not killing it and actively making it overclockable. If was cool af.

But I threw it out due to HDD issues a few years back when I was a beginner in tech shit

I regret it now. As I don't think I'll ever get an opportunity to OC a 4770HQ again

[twin steeple]

hey guys, why do different cpu compare websites show differences?

[empty quartz]

Different testing

[twin steeple]

Which would be best to go after?

Like website

[lament laurel]

Would a 4090 priced $2400 seem reasonable ? (Only looking at this option cause 5090 is $400 in my country)

$4000*

[random gyro]

i’m not in the US so wouldn’t know

isn’t a recession on the verge of starting?

[fluid matrix]

cheapest 4090 when i search it is around that price

[lament laurel]

Do you think I should go for it or wait and try to get a 5090

[rigid fjord]

do not even bother with the 5090, they're being scalped, many have missing rops and tbf 1.2kw is the recomended psu for them

[peak knot]

ubm is the april fools joke that keeps on giving

[glad fog]

i mean you know it's a great review when you're not even talking about the gpu

[feral veldt]

yeah u dont need to try it if u know its from amd

[rigid fjord]

the owner of the site has a hard on for intel

[feral veldt]

big brain logic

[true stirrup]

At this point no way that site isn't a joke

[rigid fjord]

been one for at least 5 years

[true stirrup]

Like unironically the owner has to be trolling

[glad fog]

why wouldnt he be

he gets the clicks.

[left palm]

it works

true

[whole garden]

nice

[feral veldt]

the 9070xt literally has better 1% lows but trust the guy he know better than reviews

[clear spruce]

Who loves cable chaos?:D

[warm sage]

i bet nobody can identify this hdd model in the game stray lol

or these

[cinder raptor]

Cant see shit

[warm sage]

better photo lol

[tame zenith]

the neckbeard MUST go crazy

[brave brook]

when your hate is big enough to kill a reasonable business opportunity (the benchmark software could have been good, but hey, AMD hate is superior to getting $$$ )

[peak knot]

looks like an IBM deskstar

i have a couple laying about

got the notorious nickname as the ibm deathstar

they liked to die

[tacit wasp]

finally got a thermal printer lol

[onyx lake]

whose the biggest liar on facebook marketplace 😭

“can play most games at high ultra 1080p”

[peak knot]

nice! i got a brady i use at work

[onyx lake]

2 posts earlier there was a pc with a 1060 and a i7 7700 for 160🤣 imagine

[undone star]

So I barely keep up with cpus and have always had intel(just by happenstance since I get all my tech free secondhand), someone just dropped off a ryzen 7 2700x with MB and power supply at the e waste center my roomate works at and currently my rig has a core i7-6700k and an rtx2070, is it worth the trouble of the upgrade? I think it would be nearly free but I might be one generation behind when it comes to ram and I'll probably need a heatsink since it seems to be an old AIO water cooler that sounds terrible

[plush wren]

whats this for

[tacit wasp]

Cloth? Uhh that's fancy

[onyx lake]

def worth the upgrade

[true stirrup]

Definitely worth the upgrade

[undone star]

i pulled it up on userbenchmark just to see the specs and it seems like it really only has the fact that it's newer going for it, but also userbenchmark is a joke

[glad fog]

hate pays well today

[true stirrup]

UserBenchmark sucks

[dire cipher]

My pc is cooked

[turbid shore]

i want to get the maximum amount of performance i can from my hardware

[opal trout]

just installed windhawk , only now I have got the taskbar to behave as I want

why does the task bar hide when on desktop , its stupid

[gloomy sleet]

yeah

if it’s free then yes

[supple mist]

Is the lianli galahad 360 enough for a 9800x3d?

[gloomy sleet]

userbenchmark is heavily biased towards intel for some reason so don’t trust them

[true stirrup]

What does it say next to the light?

[dire cipher]

CPU and DRAM

[gloomy sleet]

it’s an am5 cpu blowing on it will be enough

[dire cipher]

it's a red and yellow light

[gloomy sleet]

a 360mm is very overkill

[undone star]

@onyx lake @true stirrup could you elaborate how much of an upgrade it would be? the reason I'm asking is looking at the specs I don't see anything compelling other than 2018 vs 2016 and slightly faster multi core with slightly slower single core

[onyx lake]

let’s see 3 years newer, double the cores and threads. and the same game fps

[gloomy sleet]

just use a £20 dual fan tower cooler

[true stirrup]

Clear CMOS and try to boot with only 1 ram stick

[dire cipher]

Like take out the battery?

[gloomy sleet]

it’s faster in everything

[undone star]

it almost seems more like a tradeoff then an upgrade, especially when i do run single core workloads

[onyx lake]

it will barely cost you anything to switch. and it’s so much better

[gloomy sleet]

considering it’s free it’s a massive upgrade

[true stirrup]

It destroys the 6700k in multicore

[onyx lake]

yes exactly

[gloomy sleet]

it’s faster in single core iirc

[undone star]

i see

[gleaming rose]

yuh

[gloomy sleet]

tf does that do

[gleaming rose]

scans film

[true stirrup]

Or short the pins

[gloomy sleet]

nice

[undone star]

like i said I'm so out of the CPU game that I have nothing but online reviews to go by and they're kinda terrible when comparing across generations, and userbenchmark is the only good tool to do that, but it's filled with factually incorrect data lmao

[gloomy sleet]

just do it

it’s free and it’s a massive upgrade

[undone star]

thanks for the advice, I'll pay the hundred or so bucks it costs to get this guy up to spec(mostly just getting 32gb of ram)

[true stirrup]

UserBenchmark is never good for anything

[undone star]

main issue is that I don't want to reinstall windows again lmao

[gloomy sleet]

just block that site on your adblocker

[undone star]

LTSC is a pain to install if you don't work at a company that has KSM

[true stirrup]

DDR4 ram is dirt cheap

[undone star]

always a hurdle

[gloomy sleet]

£30 at most for 32gb of ddr4

[onyx lake]

user bench is horrible

[undone star]

i might have ddr4 in this let me check, I just got the message from my roomate that there's a free case with no HDD or RAM(probably from a system upgrade) with a ryzen72700x and power supply

[hollow silo]

quick question: does enabling the eco setting and limit the cpu power to 65w help improve ryzen 7700x performance?

[gleaming rose]

this shit is actually comical

[true stirrup]

Read this: #tech-chat-1 message

[dire cipher]

Any particular slot for the ram?

[gleaming rose]

oh i saw it, ts still there

[mellow cairn]

How would it help performance?!

I mean, it improves efficiency

[undone star]

yeah i have a z170 pro gaming already so if the ryzen 7 2700x MB uses ddr4 already then it's probably literally free

[gloomy sleet]

i wonder what UBM said about the b580

[onyx lake]

if it were me i’d upgrade. if it barely costed me anything and im moving to a much newer and higher core count cpu. id do it instantly

[hollow silo]

by lower power and reduce heat, maybe it obtain a higher all core boost for longer?

[onyx lake]

2700x uses ddr4 no matter what

[gloomy sleet]

no it does the opposite

[undone star]

fair, that's why i came to a forum/discord instead of trusting this https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-2700X/3502vs3958

[hollow silo]

ok understood

[true stirrup]

B2 of you have 4 slots
If you have 2 it doesn't really matter for just testing

[onyx lake]

also yk what’s awesome about moving to the 2700x? you’re on am4 and then you can upgrade to any cup you want up to a 5800x3d

[undone star]

i've been mislead long ago by userbenchmark and i just count everything on there as false

[peak knot]

its a label maker for product tagging and such

[mellow cairn]

Good practice.

[gloomy sleet]

actually comically wrong

i had to open this in edge because i have blocked the web domain on firefox and chrome lol

[vale wing]

would it be worth it to upgrade from a rx 6600 to a rx 7700xt

[onyx lake]

you could move to a 5600x for 100 bucks and get insane performance if you’re in the 2700x am4 system

[undone star]

that's why i was confused, it seemed like it should have been an upgrade but then userbenchmark said it's basically a tradeoff, so i fired up discord

[gloomy sleet]

he’d want a 5950x better productivity performance then the 5800x3d

[gloomy sleet]

yeah

[vale wing]

I ❤️ AM4

[dire cipher]

It's still giving the error

[true stirrup]

Yeah because UBM just hates AMD

[onyx lake]

upgrade dude. am4 has crazy upgradability

[true stirrup]

Both?

[undone star]

actually I have a weird weird workload so single THREAD performance actually matters to me a lot of times

[gloomy sleet]

massive upgrade especially since it’s free

[dire cipher]

Yeah

[gloomy sleet]

£30 5500 better

[true stirrup]

Reseat the GPU

[onyx lake]

just upgrade. you’ll have an amazing upgrade path for anything else

[plush wren]

oh

[undone star]

i've heard the ryzen 7 7800x3d is like the king of the work i do

[gloomy sleet]

zen 7?????

brother is 2 generations ahead of us

[onyx lake]

yes but that’s expensive as hell. you’re on a 6700k rn you don’t seem to care too much lol

[true stirrup]

9800x3D is even better

[undone star]

lol like i said i only upgrade when it's free or near free

[gloomy sleet]

1000% grab that 2700x and am4 board

[onyx lake]

upgrade to the 2700x and then to. newer cpu when you have the money or want to

[undone star]

just the processor in that is probably worth my whole rig and I'd need an AM5 i think

[gloomy sleet]

you can then go to a 5950x if you want too

[undone star]

and ddr5 as well

[onyx lake]

just stick with am4 for a while man. big upgrade from 6700k.

[undone star]

so there's no way i'm getting a 7 7800x3d in any relevant timescale

[dire cipher]

Still both errors

[undone star]

unless someone literally recycles one

[gloomy sleet]

feel like your overthinking this the 2700x is a massive upgrade across the board

[onyx lake]

lol yeah doubt that

[true stirrup]

CPU my bad

[gloomy sleet]

do it join the darkside

[true stirrup]

Not GPU

[dire cipher]

Oh Ok

[onyx lake]

just upgrade your system man. it’ll be so easy to upgrade your cpu like crazy for such a cheap price

[undone star]

lol as long as it has similar single threaded workloads i probably won't notice a difference except maybe in tarkov

[true stirrup]

Sorry I missed the typo

[gloomy sleet]

6700k literally doesn’t have an upgrade path

[undone star]

that's the only game i play that's seriously CPU limited with my 2070

[onyx lake]

and am4 has an insane upgrade path

[gloomy sleet]

tarkov it’ll be 100% better

every game will be much better

[onyx lake]

you can get a cpu from like 2022 in an am4 board. you’re limited to 2015-2016 on your current board

[vale wing]

i wonder if am4 is gonna get new cpus

[onyx lake]

i think they are getting something

[vale wing]

I have a decent cpu currently

r7 5700x is more than enough

[true stirrup]

Probably not

[gloomy sleet]

my 5500 has been going strong

[undone star]

I'm limited to my current cpu because there's no way I'm going out and buying a new cpu that old lmao

[gloomy sleet]

for £40 couldn’t ask for better

[onyx lake]

so upgrade to a 2700x for almost free man

literally not a single reason not to upgrade

[undone star]

Yeah, since it's free that changes things, for some reason I thought am4 was on ddr5

[onyx lake]

no it’s not

am5 is

[undone star]

I dont know ryzen like at all so I must have had the dates mixed up, if it's ddr4 then the cost is reinstalling windows

[onyx lake]

a 2700x will allow you to upgrade to insane cpus like the 5950x and stuff

[plush wren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/954146841312772106/1232982704815996989/catface.gif

[onyx lake]

which is amazingly worth it

[undone star]

I'm assuming I can't just yank the ssd and throw it in a new mb with a new cpu. I haven't tried that since like win 7 but it was extremely unhappy last time I did

Like with OS still in place

[glad fog]

i dont see why it would matter

[dire cipher]

Still both errors

[undone star]

I can't remember why but it caused a ton of headache and issues taking an install from one machine and putting it on another rather than imaging the installer

[onyx lake]

just do it man it’s so worth it

[undone star]

But again that was win 7 so drivers worked pretty differently and the OOBE wasn't as involved

[undone star]

Oh I'm not debating doing it, I'm just curious if I even need to in modern era

Reinstall windows, that is

[strong sail]

:3

[onyx lake]

best to reinstall windows

to avoid problems just in case

you’d probably be fine tho not reinstalling

[undone star]

I think it was both driver issues and MBR problems with win 7 but idk how that would even work with the way UEFI and GPT works now

Definitely a disable secure boot afair lmao

[onyx lake]

lookup a video about switching from intel to amd. sure there’s a guide about precautions etc

[dapper abyss]

I fixed my iPhone a few years ago... And it worked somehow....

[onyx lake]

or a website etc

[vale reef]

stare directly at the studio lighting

[dapper abyss]

I mean.... I replaced the battery....

[dapper abyss]

I got it from a broken Bluetooth speaker....

[vale reef]

is that a bomb

[ripe sable]

Why is my gpu not loading textures emidellenty then when I change the hdmi port to another one it loads emedently is my gpu broken?

[rapid quarry]

What in the world…

r/hardwaregore

[dapper abyss]

Okay.... I will upload it

[rapid quarry]

I’ll know it when I see it in some crappy Reddit YouTube channel

[steel umbra]

we all love reddit misinformation

[ripe sable]

Does anyone know why my gpu loads texture slow sometimes

[gloomy sleet]

roblox

[rain basin]

my mom's putting my old 5700XT in her new build and it's gonna be great for 1080p gaming but the everpresent urge to get her something better is right on my shoulder

[gloomy sleet]

roblox is ass at texture streaming

[ripe sable]

It does that when I’m on YouTube to

[gloomy sleet]

i think texture streaming is the right term here

[gloomy sleet]

explain?

[dapper abyss]

I did it ...
But on r/techsupportgore

[random gyro]

Wow where can I buy this

[gloomy sleet]

internet speeds

[dapper abyss]

I made this myself

[random gyro]

have you thought about putting ai in that thing and selling it?

[dapper abyss]

No

[ripe sable]

It stops doing it when I change to the other dpi port on gpu

[random gyro]

Just imagine how much better it would be with ai

[dire cipher]

Mate lowk about to give up

[random gyro]

cool

[dapper abyss]

By the way... I also soldered some wires to the circuit board to remove the iCloud lock ...
And the front camera was broken...

[gloomy sleet]

what?

[random gyro]

What if.. you put ai in it

[gloomy sleet]

just use the other one then i guess

[ripe sable]

But is it broken

[dapper abyss]

It doesn't work anymore...

[ripe sable]

Why is it doing that

[random gyro]

Ok?

[gloomy sleet]

i’d guess not enough bandwidth through the first port

[dapper abyss]

I used it a few years ago

[gloomy sleet]

what card is it

[ripe sable]

7900xt

[gloomy sleet]

what have you got in your system in general

[true stirrup]

And you are not plugging it into the motherboard right?

[ripe sable]

No ofc not in the gpu

[gloomy sleet]

i didn’t even consider those shenanigans

[ripe sable]

Asus tuf b650 r9 7900x 7900xt 32gb 5600mhz 1000w psu

[gloomy sleet]

what model of 7900xt

[ripe sable]

Sapphire

[gloomy sleet]

exact model name?

[true stirrup]

Just use the good port then and call it a day

[gloomy sleet]

pretty sure they can sometimes have different bandwidth ports

[ripe sable]

Ye ik but I just want to know why it does that

So nothing is broken

[gloomy sleet]

lower bandwidth

[gloomy sleet]

no working as intended

[tribal ravine]

dust?

[gloomy sleet]

if it was broken it wouldn’t produce a signal at all

[true stirrup]

Definitely not

[ripe sable]

The pc is brand new I got it 2 weeks ago

[true stirrup]

Or it would artefact

[gloomy sleet]

close enough

[gloomy sleet]

your fine

[random gyro]

Put a 5090 in there

[dapper abyss]

I have a better phone now ...
A samsung galaxy s6...
It's a really good phone...
And it's my main phone...

[gloomy sleet]

use the fast port

[random gyro]

Pixel 5 is a cheap good phone

[gloomy sleet]

iphone 16e

[ripe sable]

Thanks

[dapper abyss]

I have a Google Pixel 4a and a Samsung Galaxy Note 7 too

[random gyro]

Yeah you go back to your hole.

[gloomy sleet]

15 pro max is a good option nowadays

[random gyro]

Is this the apple users definition of cheap phone

😂

[mellow cairn]

48", but yes

[lone yew]

he says it here

[lone yew]

what webcam do you have?

[copper swallow]

FINALLY the last parts arrive tomorrow and I can build my first NAS

My PC got no damn storage left 😭

Now I'll have 36 TB of storage and I can use Plex on my TV 🥰

[mellow cairn]

you could probably use plex with less storage 😄

[mellow cairn]

uhhh, logitech 720 or something, and a creative livecam 4k, and I also have a DSLR I use something

[copper swallow]

Oh for sure! I just wanted to have enough storage for future downloads. I got a BIG list of stuff I want to watch

[supple tide]

Up to what amd cpu do yall think is overkill for fortnite cod and ark?

[true stirrup]

Threadripper 7995WX

[rigid fjord]

even an epyc cpu would be overkill for it

[gloomy sleet]

it’s the same price as the 16e

[random gyro]

No shot

[gloomy sleet]

used it is

[fringe prairie]

used market

can get 15 pro refurbed with warranty for $600

[gloomy sleet]

might get

[copper swallow]

2.5 gbp is insanely cheap

[brave brook]

why not

[distant frigate]

lol yikes

LTE only. No 5G.

[random gyro]

verizon sucks

[distant frigate]

Not everywhere though here. Their LTE can be great (up to 400 Mbps)

Got this earlier today

Much better speeds. Latency also better (particularly loaded latency)

[distant frigate]

Verizon could use a small cell/nodes atop a building here. Would fix this.

[twin steeple]

Opinion on I5 9400?

[fringe prairie]

old

[distant frigate]

Damn gigabit symmetrical. Pretty good.

[wispy thunder]

Eh gigabit not that impressive NGL not that big of a flex

(jokes aside you should probably cover your public IP)

[twin steeple]

Well i have a i5 6500 now so

And i trade in my pc

[hexed tapir]

If only I had more options for symmetrical 10 Gbps

[bitter nimbus]

Remember when LTE was like 3x my line speed when we had DSL 🤣

[distant frigate]

Average download is 262 Mbps for fixed internet in the USA. Nice

Mobile being 123 Mbps average makes sense.

[bitter nimbus]

So glad we got FTTP

Paying for 900 but its slower because UDM pro has no PPPoE hardware offload

90% of ISPs here still seem to be PPPoE :/

[deft lynx]

it's fine i don't live anywhere near there it's not a static IP

[wispy thunder]

oh nice

[bitter nimbus]

Tbh ive found only BTs IPs in the UK are geographically accurate

Most other ISPs your location shows up in some random location often around london

I guess BT allocate IP ranges per area or something?

[distant frigate]

Still wish Verizon uncapped me on their 5G but being uncapped on LTE is good.

[deft lynx]

who knows i deleted it anyway so other people don't think to do it but yeh im nowhere near there

[random junco]

take that down RN

[chrome zealot]

I have an Adata Xpg Lancer Rgb Ram Kit but neither Signalrgb nor Openrgb recognizes it, is there a good software that can control it?

[brave brook]

GeoIP for my IP puts it in the right city, but like in middle of a forest in middle of the city of 500k people, so 😄

[deft lynx]

its fine my guy it's 100s of miles away

[peak knot]

My phones lte

[distant frigate]

That’s 5G lol

But still good speeds

[hexed tapir]

Australia level upload speed

[bitter nimbus]

Oh wow they must have done work on the LTE tower recently

Its faster than I remember it, still no 5G tho :(

[peak knot]

yeah its technically 5g because our network technically supports it but i live so far out in the boonies it doesnt get to take much advantage

[brave brook]

5G is nice, but with the data caps it is still mostly useless

[bitter nimbus]

My provider is uncapped speed but yeah 100GB data

[brave brook]

i mean 195/44 over 5G is nice, but what about it when monthly data cap is 30GB 😄

[distant frigate]

I’m capped to 25 Mbps speed on 5G lol due to plan limitations

[bitter nimbus]

Could technically get unlimited, but im paying like £7 a month with 50gb (100gb with rollover as I rarely use more than 10gb a month :P)

[peak knot]

i have unlimited data, but get dropped to 4g after 32gb iirc

[distant frigate]

Would have to upgrade the plan to get the full 5G

[bitter nimbus]

And thats uncapped speed

I think its only EE that cap bandwidth

[brave brook]

31GB full speed, then "unlimited" at 10Mbps

[bitter nimbus]

I love the EE "stay connected" speed

[brave brook]

25 euros a month with unlimited calls and SMS in EU. Which is not great, but not horrible

[bitter nimbus]

Last time I looked it was like 0.5mbps

[random gyro]

Why is fortnite so fucking stuttery

[bitter nimbus]

Id say unlimited @ 10mbps is pretty good lmao

[distant frigate]

I think Verizon has a data cap of like 10 TB. Atleast on their highest plan

[tidal geyser]

Skill issue

[whole garden]

Bc it sucks ass

[frail topaz]

WD stopped making SSDS

they're handing it over to SanDisk

[bitter nimbus]

Pretty sure WD ssds were just sandisk anyways

Remember the blues having sandisk nand

[frail topaz]

Eh kinda, well they do own Sandisk so

[bitter nimbus]

Will just probably be "replace sticker with sandisk brand" and sell same drives sorta thing

[random gyro]

yeah it's unplayably shit

[deft lynx]

In the UK it's unlimited, 40 a month 1gb symetrical, no contract no restrictions (and i overpay most people are on around 30 a month)

[spring latch]

hi do you guys know a decent keyboard for 40-45 euros? i dont need numpad, rgb or any lighting would be nice but not necessary

[deft lynx]

You're the same as me, i think i'm on 10 a month, but 50gb a month unlimited everything else, but i get no where near using 50gb a month

[tidal geyser]

Cpu and gpu

[distant frigate]

Home internet here does have unlimited data. There’s also fiber available. Highest plan is 2 Gbps symmetrical.

[rigid fjord]

dude, that depends on the isp, i know toob is offering 900 up,900 down for £29

[random gyro]

r9 5900x, 6750xt

[hard wren]

My son is home

[random gyro]

at 1440p it's shit

[rigid fjord]

disable antialiasing

[tidal geyser]

Is rebar on?

[random gyro]

It is disabled and rebar is on

I run everything low

[deft lynx]

Yeh that's what i mean i'm overpaying, but i've been on Giganet now for 3 plus years with zero issues, i could save a tenner but it's working well

[tidal geyser]

9070?

[deft lynx]

Kinda tempted to jump to 2.5gb up an down, but i don't even need 1gb lol

[tidal geyser]

How low does the fps go

[random gyro]

6

It'll drop to 6, then jump back to 200+

[rigid fjord]

me with sky about to go fibre and tbh not having any issues at all

[tidal geyser]

I think I know the issue

[bitter nimbus]

Yeah I pay same, but smaller business-oriented provider

I WFH often so like to not be placed in a huge long hold queue if something goes wrong

[tidal geyser]

Do you have vanguard

[random gyro]

no clue

[tidal geyser]

Do you have valorant

[random gyro]

no

[hard wren]

Xt

[tidal geyser]

How many apps open on startup

[deft lynx]

yeh makes, sense, if you need it, that dedicated support is more than worth it, if and when it goes down

[bitter nimbus]

Yeah, I was with vodafone before and their support was shocking

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-cat-dance-cat-cat-meme-chinese-cat-gif-12694210483027781473

[random gyro]

7

[bitter nimbus]

Asked for static IP when ordering, agreed, never got applied

[tidal geyser]

Do they all need to open at startup

[bitter nimbus]

No one from support knew what a static IP was lmao

When I tried to explain it kept changing every week

[tidal geyser]

Ddns

[random gyro]

That shouldn't really cause the issue

[bitter nimbus]

Had enough issues getting PPPoE details off of them, this was a business plan

[deft lynx]

I tried to go with them when i first hat FTTP installed, my god, they cocked it up so manytimes, messed me around, i cancelled before i even got to 4 days, never had a such a bad experience before, went right to a CityFibre recommended and 0 issues

[tidal geyser]

So turn them off to make sure

[bitter nimbus]

Heard zen is quite good for CF

One of the biggest CF providers that didnt suck

talktalk I think is CF but for whatever reason they dont serve our area?

[random gyro]

it's stuff like audio drivers for my mic, etc

[deft lynx]

they also suck, they are on it, but when i had it they didn't offer it,

I still get emails from them every month to this day saying they are billing me 0 for this month... i haven't been with them for 3 years

[bitter nimbus]

Yeah ddns is possible, I do prefer a static IP though since I home host stuff

And I have it tunneled through a wireguard link to my home net

[tidal geyser]

How much storage space is left on the drive

Tailscale

[random gyro]

861gb

[tidal geyser]

How much ram do you have

[random gyro]

32gb

[tidal geyser]

Welp, windows nuking time

[random gyro]

It's a new drive

Sn850x

[bitter nimbus]

Have you checked your CPU/GPU usage whilst playing?

Might be windows update, antivirus etc in background hogging cpu

[tidal geyser]

Usage?

[tidal geyser]

He has a r9 5900x

12 cores

[bitter nimbus]

Still worth checking id say

[tidal geyser]

It's not usage

Possible temps

[frigid merlin]

can my rx 580 play 1440p on some games?

[bitter nimbus]

Youd be surprised how much cpu av/windows update can use, its worth checking before ripping apart and repasting 🤷‍♂️

[tidal geyser]

That is what it was made for

[limpid dune]

tried to run zentimings on an Intel CPU and it instantly obliterated itself 😭

[bitter nimbus]

Clearly something is struggling if its stuttering/lagging

[random gyro]

Temps and usage are fine. 70 degrees cpu and gpu.

[limpid ivy]

Lol windows decided to remove all power options on my spare system so I am nuking it later this week

[frigid merlin]

my gpu goes to 98 degrees 😭

[teal sinew]

gotta use asrock timing configuration instead bossman

you can get it from the downloads section on the product page for the z890 taichi OCF

[tidal geyser]

Hotspot that is fine

[random gyro]

At epic settings on fortnite, my gpu could handle it fine at like 70-80 max

[limpid dune]

I don't even care, this CPU isn't unlocked so there's nothing I can do about it anyway 💀

[tidal geyser]

Only thing I can see is multi ccd

[random gyro]

What's irritating, is I'd assume it's a hardware issue if it's happening consistently in every game. It's only fortnite.

really is a shit game

[tidal geyser]

Installed amd drivers?

[random gyro]

yep

[tidal geyser]

https://www.amd.com/en/support/download/drivers.html

This

[random gyro]

yep

[tidal geyser]

Welp might just be due to you using a 6 core cpu

[random gyro]

6?

you mean 12?

[tidal geyser]

As in the 5900x is dual ccd

And windows can be very funky some times

[random gyro]

it never did this last season

[tidal geyser]

Tends to be like that when gaming

[random gyro]

my r9 5900x and 6750 ran fortnite fine for ages

Why is it this season it's fuckin up

[tidal geyser]

Well that was before UE managed multicore better

[random gyro]

I swear if it's vsync or cause my fps is set to unlimited, imma be pissed

[tidal geyser]

Welp good luck

[bitter nimbus]

Good point actually, am weary about the upcoming 9900/9950x3ds for a similar reason

[random gyro]

UE is so shit

[bitter nimbus]

iirc x3d cache is only on half the cores, the x3d performance boost relies on windows allocating threads correctly

[random gyro]

Alan Wake 2 looks ass

I'd argue that Days Gone looks better

[limpid dune]

UE is good because it makes my X3D purchase justified 💀

[tidal geyser]

It's fine, if it's mostly gaming the 9800x3d will be better ofc

[random gyro]

wait, alan wake aint even ue

[bitter nimbus]

Im still salty about MH wilds

[random gyro]

ue games look ass tbh, none have impressed me visually.

[bitter nimbus]

gtx 1080 runs at 30fps on lowest 1440p and it looks like an early ps3 game 😭

[tidal geyser]

Not even bodycam????

[random gyro]

Yeah, I said that a while back, that's the only game in recent years to have a wow factor

[bitter nimbus]

I really want to play it but I cant bring myself to buy it until I can actually finda 9070 xt in stock for a reasonable price

[random gyro]

But Alan Wake 2, stalker 2, Starfield, they all look ass

[empty summit]

whats this mean?

[daring bramble]

is this level of sag concerning

[tidal geyser]

What sag

Also your psu is the wrong way

And the cpu cooler but that does not really matter

[tidal geyser]

.

[daring bramble]

very slight

[chilly sage]

i was looking at the optical drive potentially , also i like the older case you can see the tube Gromits on the back

[tidal geyser]

External watercooling

[chilly sage]

there also still good for adding internal displays

[raw swift]

Is the MSI z690 pro good for 3200mhz ram?

[daring bramble]

is the fan meant to be facing down if so i’ll fix it

on my psu

[tidal geyser]

What parts do you own now

[tidal geyser]

If there is a dust filter thing under there then yes

[raw swift]

I have the ASRock h610m

[tidal geyser]

Cpu?

[raw swift]

I5-12400f

[tidal geyser]

Suspected as much, just go am5

Not worth spending more on a dead platform

[raw swift]

What do you mean?

[tidal geyser]

The motherboard and cpu are not great, rather then spending more money on something that has stopped getting new improvements to it and upgrades I would rather just go for new ram, motherboard and cpu

[frosty oriole]

Man, Epic Games sucks.

[tidal geyser]

No

[frosty oriole]

If they wanted more choices for gamers, they would release their games on Steam.

[raw swift]

Jesus yeah idk what to do then cuz I don't have that kind of money right now I was just hoping to buy a new motherboard

[tidal geyser]

I have 300 games because of them

[frosty oriole]

And stop making so many other games exclusive to the EGS.

[tidal geyser]

A new motherboard would do literally nothing

[tidal geyser]

How many do they even have

[frosty oriole]

I'll check, one sec.

[raw swift]

What motherboard and CPU would you recommend then?

[tidal geyser]

And ram

Are you in the US

[raw swift]

Yes

[tidal geyser]

How far away from a micro center are you?

[raw swift]

Over an hour away

[tidal geyser]

That is not bad

You can upgrade, cpu, ram and motherboard for 300

Only cooler remains

[bronze summit]

I'm 3 hours away my nearest MC

If only there's Micro Center Las Vegas

[frosty oriole]

Okay, so 41 that have released exclusively to the EGS in the last 8 years, and more that have become exclusive after release.

[tidal geyser]

And then look at how popular they are

From a quick thinking, all I know of popular EGS exclusives is ofc fortnite but also something else that I forgot about

[frosty oriole]

Yes, that's across multiple platforms, but that's still more than the top played game on Steam right now.

[tidal geyser]

No shit, the epic games store has a exclusive of the game THEY made and use to advertise their own engine

[frosty oriole]

You asked to show how popular the exclusives are. I provided an example.

[tidal geyser]

There is no way you think its going to go on other stores

[tardy jay]

My computer is useless to me at the moment

Can’t install updates, WiFi’s worse then usually

[frosty oriole]

No, Fortnite being exclusive isn't even what I'm mad about.

I'm mad that Epic buys other gaming studios and makes deals with other publishers to release exclusively to the EGS and even delist their games from other stores to completely screw over gamers.

Yet they went to court, trying to show how good of a company they are, because they give gamers more choice.

[random gyro]

Love how my Ethernet cable tester says it’s fine yet I have no internet on my pc

[rigid shale]

so is ltt store really the best place for ptm

[high elm]

youll only use it once anyway

prolly for the gpu

cpu its better to use thermal paste

if it aint delid

[rigid shale]

my gpu hotspot and core are starting to climb again

[frosty oriole]

I got better results with PTM than paste on the CPU, too.

[lost lance]

I have a broken S21 witha broken screen thats it. should i just take out the motherboard and make a case for it and use it like a mini computer

[cedar hollow]

thermal grizzly has really good PTM

[frosty oriole]

Paste actually performed better at first on my GPU, but didn't last very long.

[rigid shale]

i dont even have a crazy good gpu

its a 6950 xt

[cedar hollow]

thats a really good gpu

[rigid shale]

its solid

[frosty oriole]

If they're both climbing together, your paste is probably fine. It's normally only if the delta between the two grows.

[cedar hollow]

its more than solid

[random gyro]

Finally time to benchmark and test lol

[rigid shale]

but if the paste is already going out

[cedar hollow]

that's like 5070 Ti level of performance no?

[rigid shale]

ehh

not with rtx titles

rtx on this is not great

sorry

just rt

[rigid shale]

the delta is about 30 degrees

[peak knot]

When AI can actually save you a lot of time coding

[frosty oriole]

AMD is weird with hotspots, that being normal can really depend.

[peak knot]

Using it to transfer my google docs files into my personal websites HTML LIST

Using my formatting

[rigid shale]

i dont know if a 50x40mm sheet would cover the whole die

[bitter nimbus]

And all that data is going into the AI for training... well I guess its not as much as an issue for your use case

[random gyro]

Frrr

[rigid shale]

how do i find specs like die size

[bitter nimbus]

But I see a lot of push for AI in workplaces and its like, okay, but whats it doing with all that data youre feeding it...

[random gyro]

Look at it

[peak knot]

Yeah it’s being used for my personal website for a list I’m already showing publicly

[rigid shale]

my eyeballs are not good enough

[random gyro]

And measure it

[frosty oriole]

It would. My 2080 Ti die is only 31x25mm.

[random gyro]

Get glasses

[rigid shale]

i will order some then

[random gyro]

👍

[rigid shale]

cheap as hell on thermal girzzly

[hexed tapir]

What gpu

[rigid shale]

6950xt

anyone have a replacement for fan control since im not trying to allow it through the firewall entirely'

[frosty oriole]

I don't know a consumer GPU that that wouldn't cover.

[frosty oriole]

For GPU fan control?

[peak knot]

2080ti is one of the largest consumer dies ever launched

Period

[frosty oriole]

Ye, that's exactly why I said so, lol.

754mm² die go brrr.

I according to TPU, last I checked, it still is. 5090 is 750mm².

[glad fog]

i must be really fucked that i get 70 fps with a 4070 ti super and 5800x3d in ghost of tsushima at 1080p, shit feels awful too.

[random gyro]

i need to fix my ethernet cable 💔

[rigid shale]

for all fan control

[cedar hollow]

i think pTM is good for big dies no?

[frosty oriole]

BIOS should have fan control.

[cedar hollow]

i fucked up my PTM install

[frosty oriole]

It's good for everything.

[rigid shale]

yeah but adjusting is annoying in bios

having to go in and out

[cedar hollow]

i may have put too much on there but wtv

[rigid shale]

okay nevermind thermal grizzly not much cheaper in the states

$27 shipping is crazy

for something that small

[cedar hollow]

i got it from my local microcenter

[rigid shale]

im in FL

[frosty oriole]

Looks good to me.

[rigid shale]

microcenter is a afraid in florida

[cedar hollow]

im just concerned about outflow over time, plus i heard PTM is super hard to remove

[hexed tapir]

520mm² and is rectangular...

[frosty oriole]

I prefer to have a little extra over it, just incase it moves while putting the cooler on. It also makes it much easier to peel the plastic if you wiggle the edge.

[languid viper]

so i just built a new computer and i need a application to stress test my gpu is there any good ones?

[rigid shale]

okay so 50x40 should be plenty enough

[frosty oriole]

It's not conductive, I wouldn't worry about that.

[frosty oriole]

Furmark.

[cedar hollow]

Would PTM last the lifetime of my GPU?

[mental violet]

guys, i gotta a dumb question that i may already know the answer to. I have a beelink ser6 promax and got a new mini fridge. I personally dont think it would work, but the guys here say otherwise. any thoughts?

[languid viper]

cool thanks!

[frosty oriole]

I've heard it's supposed to.

[hexed tapir]

For sure

[languid viper]

also is cpu z the best stress test for cpus or is there a better one?

[worldly mason]

Yo got a question I'm upgrading my gpu from a Rx 5700xt to a 3070 my PSU is a 550w bronze cooler master is it enough?

[sinful cobalt]

yes the more its used the better it gets and it doesnt dry up like paste

[worldly mason]

However I do have a I play gs650w ultra same bronze rating

Soon I'm in a conundrum which one to use my trusty cooler master or the Inplay 650w I mean it's fine I've used it before on my rtx 2070 and 5700xt just wondering

[sinful cobalt]

u can get away with 550w yes but I’d recommend limiting the power or just get a better unit to be safe

[sinful cobalt]

5700xt power draw is like same as 3070

[worldly mason]

I ordered a better unit 750w cooler master one forgot the model but it's modular but it'll prolly come by next month or two due to the shipping delays and logistical problems in my area

[sinful cobalt]

I ran a 4070 super with a 550w unit b4 and it was fine

as long as total system power doesnt near the limit of the psu

Now I run a 1000w unit with a 5070Ti OC (330w) and PBO 9800x3d (140w)

[cedar hollow]

i run 1300W

[clear canyon]

I ran a 3090 and a 5600x on a 550w and it didn't like it

[cedar hollow]

i used to run 1000W though idk if it was enough

[sinful cobalt]

no shit sherlock

[clear canyon]

It was funny lmao

[sinful cobalt]

1000w with a 5090 and i9 13/14th gen I’d be worried lmao

[clear canyon]

I just wanted to see how it would do lmao

[cedar hollow]

5090 and 9800x3d and a shit ton of fans and stuff

[worldly mason]

I run a i7-7700 processor and about 2 SSD m.2 10 HDD is it enough wattage?
Not upgrading my processor till it goes kaput for now

[sinful cobalt]

esp considering the i9 OC can suck up to like 400w

[cedar hollow]

i dont like intel rn

[sinful cobalt]

just saying that the i9 wants to fight the gpu for the psu

[cedar hollow]

yea

[plain cypress]

Ban

[south arrow]

Ujhgg just was so sick got out of the hospital at like 7am and slept till 5pm xD, youre guy feels like death

[cedar hollow]

my bad
i dont like intel core
i like intel arc

[cedar hollow]

hope you good friend

[plain cypress]

😶‍🌫️

[cedar hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/man-i'm-tired-tired-cat-tire-caption-meme-gif-6427457483111934614

are b580s still being scalped i wonder

[sinful cobalt]

I got mine for like $290 USD equivalent, after 19% tax in my country

[cedar hollow]

mmmm

[plain cypress]

Probably

[cedar hollow]

i think i shouldve kept my 4060 Ti 16GB

[sinful cobalt]

yea after currency exchange and taxes I basically got my b580 at msrp

converting the 5070ti aero which I got for my country’s MSRP, is not MSRP price in the US

[cedar hollow]

i paid $800 over msrp for both my gpus

[sinful cobalt]

technically speaking I paid $70 over msrp for my aero if I were to convert and compare to USA

[azure topaz]

(at max load with a tune that you absolutely wouldn’t run day to day)

[frail topaz]

aliexpress is so fucking fun

[sinful cobalt]

hopefully I can snag a yeston 9070xt in the future for like $1000 sgd range

[rapid quarry]

I sorta want Intel to have a 9070 (non xt) performance competitor purely because I don’t think scalpers would target Intel gpus because of them being hyper niche. And Intel would be a lot more price competitive. I am probably imagining the most idealistic situation right now but one can dream

[sinful cobalt]

ik there was one yeston distributor for 40 series cards that was in the price range of zotac and PNY cards

aka prob avoiding the 10% import tax

either that or they just sourced directly from yeston lmao

[thorny saddle]

Huh?

Oh, over $1,999?

[cedar hollow]

yes

[thorny saddle]

People misuse the term MSRP

[slender bobcat]

I think it's funny my current itx case is about the same size as this case from a 2000s hp

[cedar hollow]

NJ sales tax screwed me over

[thorny saddle]

try philly sales tax

[sinful cobalt]

try 10% import tax and 9% GST in singapore

[slender bobcat]

It's psu was also the same as a sfx psu which I find wild since the sfx standard wasn't a thing till 2008

[sinful cobalt]

basically 20% increase

[thorny saddle]

Yeah but you're not 10 miles away from one another

[sinful cobalt]

as in?

[thorny saddle]

Where vert and i are is literally like... 10 min drive from one another and completely different tax

[sinful cobalt]

oh

[cedar hollow]

10 min is a bit of an exaggeration but yes the taxes are quite different

[latent pasture]

just dont follow the speed limit and its true

[wheat cliff]

Hey

[gleaming rose]

bitchin

[tardy jay]

Anyone know how to fix this?

Been saying this for almost 2 hours

[gleaming rose]

uninstall windows

[tardy jay]

Like a soft reset?

[gleaming rose]

no just install linux

windows update is a joke

but ngl the best fix is always to just reinstall windows from a usb stick, not a soft reset

windows likes to fuck itself up and thats the best fix

[random gyro]

45 grams vs 4g of thermal paste doesnt seem like a big difference

[gleaming rose]

the difference is 41g

[random gyro]

ik

but like weight wise its not much

[steel umbra]

volume?

[random gyro]

aint usre

sure*

[steel umbra]

over 10 is not much??

[gleaming rose]

comsider this: pcs on average use less than 1g per application

[random gyro]

ok this makes it seem more significant

i didnt know how much an application was

i have a 4 gram mx4

[steel umbra]

4g is enough for about 10 applications, 45g about 111 applications that’s significant

[gleaming rose]

^

[random gyro]

ok that makes much more sense

thx!

[gleaming rose]

alright lets see if this coolscan works

it looks like i built a bomb tbh

[random gyro]

i feel like a doctor when i hold the thermal paste

[steel umbra]

i have tooth paste that looks like thermal paste

gray

[random gyro]

i would end up getting confused and brushing my teeth with thermal paste

[gleaming rose]

probably wouldnt kill you tbh

thermal paste is decently harmless

[random gyro]

i would find out right away anyways, i cant imagine itd taste good

[gleaming rose]

yeah

just dont eat it in large quantities and youll be fine

[steel umbra]

eat 1kg

[random gyro]

ah so i can eat it in small quantities? like instead of mayonaise on my burger i get thermal paste

[gleaming rose]

also itd suck to get in your eyes

[random gyro]

yeah

[steel umbra]

well, gl if your intenstives get angy

[random gyro]

ill tell u if its yummy or not

[gleaming rose]

wouldn't make you blind but youd have to rinse and see a doctor because it may be hard to get out

[random gyro]

isnt it made of metal and stuff

[gleaming rose]

typically it has a metallic element

[random gyro]

ah

https://tenor.com/view/thermal-paste-cpu-motherboard-thermal-paste-cpu-cpu-thermal-paste-gif-24047580

[gleaming rose]

the only main one i know of is silver and silver isnt even going to give you heavy metal toxicity

[random gyro]

i can get my vitamins and minerals in for the day

[steel umbra]

if you get higher end exposure maybe ~

[gleaming rose]

even still it's not very toixc

gold is more toxic iirc

[steel umbra]

it can kill you in high enough quantity

[steel umbra]

gold is more stable

[gleaming rose]

most things can

[steel umbra]

it’s less toxic

[gleaming rose]

no, silver is more toxic

[random gyro]

u can drown if u drink to much water

[gleaming rose]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication

[random gyro]

yeah that

you needa drink a lot of water to do that tho

[steel umbra]

ye

[random gyro]

like a gallon every hour or smth

[steel umbra]

yes but i don’t see silver being in your food being benefitial even in small quantity

that’s why it’s considered bad for you

[random gyro]

iron is much more common

almost in everthing

[steel umbra]

drinking a proper amount of water will not introduce you to damaging elements assuming the water is clean, silver is itself slightly toxic

[rapid quarry]

That is only a blender render so I am safe

[random gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/cpu-nutella-nutella-chocolate-thermal-paste-meme-gif-24395210

how bout that

[steel umbra]

silver has 0 benefits in your blood, cells as it’s not used in any sort of metabolism or cells don’t use it

anything that plays absolutely no role is considered neutral and because silver can have toxic effects in the body it is considered bad

[rapid quarry]

You will be taken over to the prison on mars for your assault with images like that

[random gyro]

but nutella cpu

😔

[oblique terrace]

It's so tiny

[random gyro]

whys ur mousepad a numberpad

[oblique terrace]

ASUS L210M

[random gyro]

i didnt know asus was silly enough to use celerons

i love linus

platonically

[bitter nimbus]

You can still buy laptops with N4020s?

[strange atlas]

Is panel types really important between ips and va

I want to get 1440p monitor but prices change a lot between ips and va

A lot a lot

[bitter nimbus]

VA better contrast in some cases but also smearing with white text on black background etc (can be minor depends on monitor), ips better motion clarity and viewing angles

[thorn cove]

When should I turn on Vsync? I notice it makes my games look noticibly more laggy when I am running it at high framerates

I dont notice anything except stutters on lower framerates

[mellow gull]

if it makes things worse turn it off

[strange atlas]

I also currently use Va monitor called VG24VQr ghosting is so bad on it will it fix on ips?

Like i can see almost 3 pngs behind

In games like elden ring it becomes impossible to play too much ghosting

[bitter nimbus]

If you experience smearing yes IPS will fix it but a good VA monitor may be better too

Will never be as good as IPS from that standpoint though

[glad fog]

good god

[strange atlas]

Im thinking of between Va Samsung Odyssey G5 or the ips one

[inland perch]

thats what she didnt say

[bitter nimbus]

I hear the odysseys are some of the better VAs in terms of smearing but yeah hard for me to tell

Never used odyssey monitors, find a review or a store that stocks both

[strange atlas]

Got it thank you for the help i can ask again in the morning

[bitter nimbus]

IPS will always be better afaik it's just a question of how much worse the VA version is

[strange atlas]

Yeah its not big of a deal wont pay the difference

[bitter nimbus]

It might be minor in a well designed VA panel and not noticeable

[strange atlas]

Thanks again

[spark condor]

upgrading to AM5, good budget, 1500 or so just for the upgrade, ram, case, motherboard, CPU. what CPU should i get

[faint crag]

r3 3100 trust

[clear canyon]

ass

[faint crag]

im kidding 😭

[faint crag]

what currency?

[spark condor]

USD

[faint crag]

uhh probably ryzen 5 7500f or ryzen 5 7600x if im converting correctly and understand taxes

[spark condor]

i can spend around 500 on the CPU alone, maybne smth better? jst core wise

[faint crag]

r7 7800x3d or 9800x3d if you can work it in would be good

[eternal cloak]

Stick to a 7700 then

If you're going 1440p the performance difference is minimal

[eternal cloak]

Or a 9700X for that matter, up to you

[frosty oriole]

What games do you play?

[random gyro]

🥀

[ember inlet]

is that debian?

[gleaming rose]

yes

[ember inlet]

sick

[sly epoch]

Help what do I do?

[junior valve]

restart the computer

[faint crag]

just bought a 7800xt

most money i have ever spent 😭

[junior valve]

sell it and buy a 4090 , i think its faster

[faint crag]

for like

4x the cost

😭😭

[blissful basin]

What is a good Hz rate in 2025?

[sly epoch]

Doesnt work

[sly epoch]

I already did it

[faint crag]

144-180hz is fine unless you are a pro or ballin

[wheat field]

Hold down the power button until it shuts off completely

Don't just tap it and wait

[sly epoch]

Imma try again

[blissful basin]

My friend has a 360Hz monitor and I literally cannot tell a difference between 240Hz and 360Hz.

[faint crag]

yeah its diminishing returns past 144 tbh

[blissful basin]

i was born with 120hZ in my eyes lul

[wheat field]

Those refresh rates are only really valuable in competitive shooters from what I understand.

[faint crag]

even then its marginal gains tbh

[blissful basin]

i aint competetive at any game lol

[faint crag]

going from 60 to 144 i couldnt go back

i could easily go from 300 plus back down

[blissful basin]

the problem is now that whenever i use somebody elses comptuer or like a computer at school it always feels slow

[faint crag]

tbh it doesnt bug me unless its games just daily use is noticeable but completely usable

in an online game i cannot touch 60 anymore without crying

[wheat field]

Marginal gains matter if you're playing competitively

[blissful basin]

sometimes i just play with 60 just to think "damn im greateful for what i have"

[blissful basin]

true but at some point it's way too marginal

[faint crag]

100% but even in the context of esports its still extremely minor

you could give a pro player in any game 240 and tell them its 300 and they wouldnt even know

[blissful basin]

probably unless their like a top tier player

[wheat field]

But...that's.... that's the point

Isn't that like the point of sports? Marginal gains over the best of the best?

Or am I out of touch

[blissful basin]

at some point its just so marginal it doesnt matter

but yeah thats why the pro players get good monitors

[wheat field]

I'd assume eSports has regulations about such things anyway

[faint crag]

noo you are correct 😭😭

[blissful basin]

depends which game but ive never heard of a hz cap

the only thing i can recall is on gtav speedrun leaderboards you used to have to cap your game at 60 but everyone bitched about it and they allowed it to go up to 120 or 240 i think

[errant depot]

Anyone with a XFX 9070 XT Quicksilver know which way the dual bios switch needs to be set for OC mode / Silent mode?

[faint crag]

i was more so saying that the difference is so small that is basically a non factor

[blissful basin]

i think its more of an ego thing tbh, streamers always make sure to have their FPS on the screen lol

[faint crag]

maybe i am out of touch and 360 is just that much better

[wheat field]

But small differences in highly competitive sport is like...the thing? No?

Like if I can see you a few milliseconds faster that's an advantage

[blissful basin]

yeah but your eyes cant even catch up that fast

[faint crag]

yes i get that and agree but at what point does it become a non factor

[eternal cloak]

(Yes they can)

[blissful basin]

maybe if you have good eyes

[eternal cloak]

No lmao

Most people can easily

[blissful basin]

you gotta have insane reaction time for that

[eternal cloak]

That has little to nothing to do with your eyes on its own lol

[blissful basin]

most people cant even tell the difference between 60Hz and 120Hz (unless your into tech) let alone 240Hz and 360Hz

[faint crag]

nah i disagree with that

anyone who says that is gaslighting themselves

[wheat field]

Lol what

[eternal cloak]

You are pumping out dumb bullshit after dumb bullshit lmao

[blissful basin]

how

[wheat field]

That's not true and not how the human eye works

[eternal cloak]

Idk why people keep thinking human eyes translate into 30hz shit tinners

[blissful basin]

wdym

[wheat field]

Because they read it in an article that's twenty years old and out of context

[blissful basin]

my brother watches me play and i showed him the difference between 60Hz and 240Hz and he has absolutely no idea

[wheat field]

You can perceive the difference and your eyes can "keep up"

[blissful basin]

im not reading an article im just saying out of personal experience

[wheat field]

That's awesome! Can't wait to read your study based on that ground breaking research.

[eternal cloak]

Watching it and actually using it are two different things entirely

[faint crag]

let him play he will be able to tell

[wheat field]

I'll stick to the documented studies of the human eye

Thanks! 😊👍🏻🙏🏻 Peace and love 😗

[blissful basin]

yeah probably, the point im making here tho is that its not a groundbreaking difference once your past 60

[faint crag]

eh

[wheat field]

There is

[blissful basin]

yeah sure its definetly pleasant

and can help a ton

[nimble frigate]

Expo 1 or 2 what’s better?

Also, I have an “XMP/EXPO High bandwidth support” setting, on or off?

[wheat field]

There's literally an LTT video about this

[faint crag]

for gaming it 100% is groundbreaking

[blissful basin]

fair enough

[faint crag]

productivity nah

[blissful basin]

maybe not past 120 or 240 tho

[nimble frigate]

Anyone?

[blissful basin]

sorry idk

[wheat field]

Me when kaz shows up and someone with neurons is able to understand why I'm befuddled

[distant frigate]

https://www.reddit.com/r/FiberOptics/s/2y0PhSrR5U

[blissful basin]

believe it or not, not everyone sees the exact same thing

[distant frigate]

That’s soo bad lmao

[blissful basin]

oof

[faint crag]

its just diminishing returns so not ground breaking but still has a place for comp stuff

[wheat field]

You look like dream

Is that dream in your pfp?

Or am I tripping

[blissful basin]

you look like yoda

[wheat field]

Fuck you dude, low blow

[blissful basin]

my bad g

[faint crag]

that is a violation

[wheat field]

What's wrong with dream?

[faint crag]

be fr

[wheat field]

He's not a bad looking dude? Generic white guy.

[blissful basin]

hes not even naturally ugly he just has that punchable expression lol

[faint crag]

he isnt the side angle doesnt help but he isnt

[distant frigate]

Yeah I don’t look like dream lmao

[faint crag]

the hype just put too much pressure on bro

[wheat field]

He literally looks like a basic white dude lol y'all are tripping

[faint crag]

i just said he isnt 😭😭

[distant frigate]

Another selfie of me lol with the right angle. Definitely not looking like dream

[wheat field]

Dream?

Stop posting dream pics in the chat

[eternal cloak]

First off, there is
120hz is several times faster than 60hz, despite it being 'only' twice the refresh rate. The math is quite complicated

Though the higher the refresh rate the less notable it is; I still notice a difference between 360 and 500hz, but that's mainly because I've been playing rythm games since 2008 and the kind of level I play at is so high that it'd be strange if I didn't notice additional smoothness

[faint crag]

you look like alex from ltt but russian

[grizzled frost]

120hz is exactly 2 times faster

[blissful basin]

i said its not groundbreaking, for sure nice but 60Hz is tolerable

[eternal cloak]

It is indeed groundbreaking lol

[wheat field]

Here's a selfie of me guys

[blissful basin]

speak for yourself

[grizzled frost]

smash

[nimble frigate]

Does anyone know?

[faint crag]

https://tenor.com/view/heart-hearteyes-eyes-tom-and-gif-24318898

[blissful basin]

i dont believe you, send a pic with a fork on your head

[faint crag]

someone help bro

[grizzled frost]

pick whatever has the faster speed or better timings

[eternal cloak]

???

[nimble frigate]

I think it’s EXPO2 but that’s what I’m not sure about

[blissful basin]

do one with a spoon

[plain cypress]

Sir, this is a fucking tech chat

[grizzled frost]

it tells you the speed and timings when you pick an expo profile

[wheat field]

I used my phone which is technology to take this beautiful selfies. Stop body shaming me

[faint crag]

and bro is looking electric

[glad fog]

it is groundbreaking though

[nimble frigate]

Where?

[glad fog]

the difference between 60 and 120 is night and day

[plain cypress]

You deserve every ounce of shame

[blissful basin]

idk not for me

[eternal cloak]

Nobody ever said 60hz wasn't tolerable either kek

[wheat field]

Trye

[solid crown]

yep he messaged me and said they checked and reseated the FP connectors and no dice

[wheat field]

I really want to rescue you from terrorists in the middle of the desert and put sunglasses on your face.

[solid crown]

ive never heard of anything bricking a mobo from pulling on the usb port

like at least it would power on the fans for a second right

[wheat field]

If anyone understands what I'm talking about I'll give them two pesos

[solid crown]

but nothing, no signs of life at all

[faint crag]

i do

[eternal cloak]

I'm not fossil enough so

[wheat field]

That's how Venom Snake finds Kaz in phantom pain

[eternal cloak]

Then you don't understand what I'm talking about, but I can't find the data for what I'm talking about so OH WELL

[faint crag]

am i being dissed or what i cannot tell atp 😭

[wheat field]

Not you, the real Kaz

[wheat field]

This Kaz.

[sly epoch]

Still nothing

[faint crag]

oh smh

[wheat field]

You're a pale imitation

[faint crag]

wow thats crazy

im the original but alright

[sly epoch]

When I turn it on it goes into bios and doesnt boot at all

[eternal cloak]

Idk, is your first name Kazuma

[wheat field]

That's fine. Try to go into your boot loader

[sly epoch]

Then?

[wheat field]

#1027757333117415424 but we're having a jolly time here ATM so go post it here

[faint crag]

[wheat field]

Thanks peace ✌🏻🕊️ and love 😗😘

[eternal cloak]

X

[frosty oriole]

There are genuinely some people who cannot see the difference.

It's rare, but it is a thing.

[eternal cloak]

Who sent your ass back to the 80s lmao

[dapper light]

It seems that i got a little icing problem

[eternal cloak]

You replied to the wrong message given the context

[faint crag]

put it in a hot bath should fix it

[sly epoch]

At least it doesnt thermal throttle

[blissful basin]

open a chrome tab

[sly epoch]

You can crank that up to 12Ghz no problem

[wheat field]

some

Kazuma is obviously talking about the general populace as is pretty much everyone who speaks to something experienced by one or more of the senses. Literal nothing burger reply

[hard wren]

🥹

[eternal cloak]

I love how companies make 540 and 600hz monitors now and show them off at CES and then compare them to 144hz monitors because they know there's no damn difference for 99.9% of the people looking at it

[frosty oriole]

Ye, most people can. Just wanted to add the nuance.

[wheat field]

The nuance was implied... If someone couldn't figure that out they don't deserve the extra help

[wheat field]

Omega based

[blissful basin]

but if i said that you would freak out

[blissful basin]

exactly

[eternal cloak]

The difference is that 540hz and 600hz is objectively a very small difference
60hz to 120/144hz or even 90hz is a huge difference

Stop acting stupid now

[frosty oriole]

I'm curious on trying a 240Hz or higher monitor and seeing the difference in the UFO test.

[blissful basin]

i agree its a huge difference, i was saying that 240Hz vs 360Hz isnt that big from personal experience

[wheat field]

UFO test?

[distant frigate]

This is anecdotal but I do notice a difference between 60 and 120 hz

[eternal cloak]

At a certain point it's less about seeing the difference and more about feeling the difference lol