tech-chat-1

[high lava]

1080p 27" is.. not great for personal use. Acceptable at a work station/terminal

[real lantern]

it's depends heavily on the model but i still think that you should've used your 3rd answer better

[plucky frost]

i have a 24 inch ips 1440p 165hz now, but i want OLED and i cannot find any 24 inch oled monitors, so i considering switching to 27 inch but i am hesitant

[real lantern]

cause OLED always have lower brightness due to them not having backlights

[high lava]

yes

[lethal bay]

there’s no reality 1080p is good in a desktop scenario

1440p is cheap as FUCK nowadays

[steel umbra]

what about b650m hdv/m.2 or pro rs

[woeful narwhal]

all screens are cheap

[hexed tapir]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mw7CMC $461 for a nearly complete PC

[woeful narwhal]

its nice

[lethal bay]

No, but 👍

[real lantern]

are 8k dell ultrasharps cheap?

[high lava]

Not in stock or not available

[steel umbra]

hmm, country?

warship

[true stirrup]

Warshipped

[real lantern]

oh shit dell ultrasharps GOT A DISCOUNT

[brazen glen]

Maybe in comparison to a 12th gen build with alder lake, but compared to the core ultras it’s a bargain. Still, 4-500 for a build isn’t great. Maybe in the next few years it’ll drop as signaling for ddr5 becomes easier

[real lantern]

A DISCOUNT!

[hexed tapir]

180hz 1080p monitors are now $90+ new

[woeful narwhal]

When you jump to the farthest end, no, its not. But that's like saying "Oh thermal paste is cheap" "Well is 40 kilos of liquid metal cheap?" like, no, duh, lmao

[high lava]

https://tenor.com/view/vargskelethor-joel-swedish-man-vinesauce-cartoon-gif-26957941

He lives there

[real lantern]

stop insulting my ragebait skills

[woeful narwhal]

no normal person cares enough to buy an 8k monitor

[hexed tapir]

He lives in a child!?

[midnight meteor]

Throw in storage and a graphics card and you are done right?

[woeful narwhal]

not good enough ragebaiting, i sentence you to spending 4 months sorting all reddit comments by "controversial" and reading tiktok comments

[hexed tapir]

Yup

[high lava]

The manchild the child represent, but yes

[midnight meteor]

Nice

[real lantern]

no i'd rather get executed by gulliotine please!!!!

[midnight meteor]

Its honestly rather similar to my pc build

But like most budge am5 builds are tho

[woeful narwhal]

actually ive got better, go to any pc building subreddit and mention a new nvidia card

[real lantern]

ltt is pretty easy but pcmr is a deathwish

[midnight meteor]

Mention pressing shift with your thumb

[woeful narwhal]

ehhh i've seen some gpu wars in this server

especially #1106613567966429224

i remember reading someone wanting to get a 4060 and like, they didn't even MENTION it, it was just a pc part picker listing, and dude got torn alive for nothing

[high lava]

Well. I'm not hesitating in the slightest when I say that AI as people commonly thinks about it is completely redundant. It's pointless in my eyes and is just an other way people grifts money out of people after they overplayed their hand with crypto

[woeful narwhal]

i agree, which is why i think most people have started to turn on nvidia (the people who care about tech already did, but the non-tech gaming folks are too) for essentially just clinging to whatever the new money making bullshit is

[high lava]

was expecting criticism but okay, good

[true stirrup]

AI is great for so many things
But on the internet it's mostly used for stupid bullshit

[high lava]

"AI" in it's current form is 90% just destroying things, the way it's currently used

[real lantern]

i lost a bit of money to crypto, lets just say i was extremely..... displeasured

[true stirrup]

I'm up ~120000%

[woeful narwhal]

90 is just a grift atm, more than any "tool" its meant to be, and most "tool" forms are shity within themselves

[real lantern]

buy my course for 299.99 it'll make you a sigma trader like me

[high lava]

I didn't buy in to that idea.. it was monopoly money in my eyes. And knowing that people can't be reasonable I didn't trust any step of the chain

[woeful narwhal]

i thought the whole "ai only youtube channels" i see people cover aren't as common as i think, but they're in my recommended now, i've seen them in both long and shortform content

and im excluding those reddit reading videos in this mention as well cuz obv they're just ai

[high lava]

That it's a thing at all has crossed way too many lines in my eyes

[true stirrup]

Yes just give me your life savings and they will triple over night!!! 100% real no scam fr fr💯 🔥

[woeful narwhal]

i also just don't get those people that are like, "AI IS THE FUTURE! this music is so good, and will set a standard for the peak of music in history" and its like, this same leading chord pattern 55 times

[high lava]

Ah, you're a musk head too i see

[real lantern]

AI is something special amazing it would kill a peasant in the 1600s, however people have been overusing the word

[high lava]

🙃

[woeful narwhal]

i think the other thing that annoys me about ai is the other side of people who just call anything weird ai generated

[true stirrup]

?
I was just making fun out of people who sell courses

[quick stag]

guys im getting hi-fi as hell speakers from my grandpa tomorrow for in my bedroom

[woeful narwhal]

"omg this video is so weird it must be ai!" me when editing software:

[quick stag]

gonna be one crazy ahh upgrade (my only speaker is a google nest mini)

[real lantern]

musk should be blamed for everything wrong in crypto

[brazen glen]

AI as it stands right now remains a fancy phone menu system for companies that refuse to train for customer service

[high lava]

I was being sarcastic, and I won't make this a political discussion. But I'll say I hate all crypto bros like that

[woeful narwhal]

phone trees suck and no one likes them

[brazen glen]

There are so few actual applications for it aside from “help I can’t write like an adult please help me do an email”

[real lantern]

very wise words.

[brazen glen]

When you get into actual interesting things like ML and machine vision, now that’s the good stuff

[high lava]

I don't disagree, but he's not alone in being a massive jackass in those circles

[true stirrup]

I agree
I do like crypto but I hate people like that so much

[woeful narwhal]

i think the most off putting thing i've seen with ai is i went through an AI drive through (which made it worse because it had no order screen) but it was horrible

and i had no idea it was going to be ai

so safe to say that caught me very off guard

[high lava]

Just don't drive your neighbors crazy and you'll be good 👍

[real lantern]

ML is like a baby you have to train it bit by bit but instead of a couple of examples it's petabytes worth of data

[quick stag]

my next door neighbours are 400m away

ill drive my siblings crazy though

[fierce raven]

what gpu do i upgrade to from a 3080 i want to play games at 4k 144hz max settings

[true stirrup]

Good

[real lantern]

you should

[quick stag]

exactly

[true stirrup]

4090

[high lava]

Well, that's a pretty close second consideration

[real lantern]

5090

[midnight meteor]

So full blast them /j

[high lava]

poor speakers

[woeful narwhal]

is the 7800xt good

[brazen glen]

Uhhhh maybe a 4090 if you’re feeling feisty but otherwise everything else is pretty marginal

[fierce raven]

a pc shop has atleast one 9070xt in stock

[real lantern]

i have a jbl xtreme 3 playing music rn but i can't turn it more than 40% or my parents and neighbors will beat my ass

[rugged sand]

How do I remove this fan?

[brazen glen]

Unless you want team red, the 9070xt is about 30ish percent faster raster but with similar RT perf

[real lantern]

remove the screws in the back

[true stirrup]

Unscrew it from outside the case

[real lantern]

and pull cables

[brazen glen]

Not for 500 USD lol, the extra 50 bucks on the 9070 is well worth it

[high lava]

On the subject of Audio/Hi-fi. I received a pair of semi broken Krk Rokit 8's today. I was told I could have em and try to repair them. I've read about how they can "go bad" and how to try and fix em. So I was happy to receive them

[woeful narwhal]

you're not gonna find one for that price

[rugged sand]

They are made of rubber, not sure how.

[woeful narwhal]

msrp is also increasing another $250

[brazen glen]

there are loads in stock at every MC

[high lava]

You pull the rubber "screws"

[woeful narwhal]

there is no microcenter close to me

[true stirrup]

Oh those
Squeeze them and push them though the hole

[brazen glen]

Tariffs are max 10 percent my dude, even a 25 percent increase would be to 625

[high lava]

That's a much better description

[latent ledge]

Are there any settings I should change? (I don’t wanna overclock my cpu)

[woeful narwhal]

im not talking tariffs, its amds choice lol

[brazen glen]

I would just wait for new stock to come in, it shouldn’t be a scalping situation like nvidia

[true stirrup]

Resizable bar

[high lava]

Pbo

[rugged sand]

I feel like imma break it

[true stirrup]

Nah just keep pushing

[rugged sand]

I could take the ram from this one and put it in the other

[high lava]

Re-bar could even be critical for some cards

[real lantern]

Rate my secondary setup

[latent ledge]

Where’s that

[mellow cairn]

100/10, you have moved in with your grandmother because you lost all your money in crypto

[true stirrup]

Check the manual I don't have a Gigabyte motherboard

[high lava]

I know it's cramped, but wouldn't you want a mouse mat at least?

[latent ledge]

Do you recommend auto, disable, enabled, or advanced?

[rugged sand]

Im trying, not much is happening

[latent ledge]

Alright

[high lava]

Likely auto for pbo. It will decide on the fly what it wants to do for best performance

[real lantern]

actually my mother

where i live families are much more connected

[true stirrup]

Oh those are interesting
Maybe you have to push them though the other side?

[real lantern]

and you never get kicked out

[rugged sand]

It feels like it's completely stuck 💀

[tired bear]

Is this rubbery?

[rugged sand]

This is weird af

[mellow cairn]

I was jusging by the age of the furniture

[rugged sand]

Yeah

[high lava]

Those rubber screws from OEM are seldomly made to be taken out, or atleast it isn't made like the once from noctua that you can reuse

[latent ledge]

Alright ty :)

[tired bear]

just pull the fan off there are no screws in that case

[high lava]

No worries

[rugged sand]

It's held in place bruh

[real lantern]

my mother had 7 children in 3 decades and i'm still using my older siblings furniture

[tired bear]

it will give

[rugged sand]

No it won't 💀

[true stirrup]

It's possible you just can't remove it without breaking the screw

[high lava]

The rubber has turned in to rock 🙃

[latent ledge]

Ok so I currently don’t have a GPU cause I tried to get a 9070 XT but missed it
Should I change re-bar after I get a GPU?

[rugged sand]

I feel like it's possible. Ill try looking on YouTube.

[true stirrup]

Yeah before getting a GPU it won't do anything

[tardy jay]

What is Alder Lake? And what’s the difference

[high lava]

It can wait till you get a gpu. But it doesn't hurt either way

[latent ledge]

Alright thanks

[latent ledge]

Maybe I’ll do it now then so I don’t forget lol

[rugged sand]

This thinkcentre prebuilt is slightly different than the other one, but pretty much the same.

[cosmic stratus]

thats... PERFECT!!

[high lava]

They look like the exact same product..

[high lava]

Again, it won't hurt anything

[tardy jay]

That’s the confusing part

Is it the P cores?

[latent ledge]

Yeah I’ll do it now if I can find it

[true stirrup]

12th gen is called Alder lake

[woeful narwhal]

its just a 12th gen name

[cosmic stratus]

got a curved free sync 165hz for 90$... new and its actually a decent VA panel

[high lava]

My first guess would be if it's a tray cpu or retail. So if it comes with a cooler or not

[tardy jay]

One of the listing specifies P cores while the other doesn’t

[true stirrup]

It's the exact same CPU

[latent ledge]

Oh also should I have UCLK DIV1 set to auto, UCLK=MEMCLK, or UCLK=MEMCLK/2?

[true stirrup]

Different seller = different listing = same product

[tardy jay]

I think the only difference is the added P and E cores

[high lava]

Please send a pic if you can

[lapis condor]

Not the /2 mode
What mem speed are you running

[true stirrup]

Nope a 12400f is always a 12400f

[true stirrup]

There is absolutely no difference

[latent ledge]

Ddr5 6000 cl30

[lapis condor]

Leave that on auto

[latent ledge]

Alright

Ty

[high lava]

Yes, unless the seller is marketing the product incorrectly. A 12400f is the same chip. ±silicone lottery

[rugged sand]

I watched a disassembly video of the same pc I'm taking apart, when he got to the fan... he didn't take it out. Probably is part of the case.

[obsidian oriole]

Got my new 5090 running on an 850W PSU with 3 8-pins

[high lava]

Now I know what it's asking. What kind of ram kit do you have?

[true stirrup]

I would guess so

[latent ledge]

Ddr5-6000 cl30

[tardy jay]

Anything that’s better then my current 3470 will do

[rugged sand]

Took it apart quick this time.

[true stirrup]

I hit a pretty bad bin on my CPU as far as I can tell 🥲

[latent ledge]

Also I found re-size bar and it’s enabled by default :)

[midnight meteor]

Ye some mobos do that now

[lapis condor]

Nearly all modern motherboards have it enabled by default now

[plain cypress]

alder lake is the architecture

[midnight meteor]

Do you plan to undervolt or play around with desired temps?

[tardy jay]

Code name

[high lava]

Nice. I would set it to auto for the moment. Not sure how stable your ram/xmp profile will run on your board and particular cpu

[lapis condor]

DDR5-6000 c30 will run on any and all AM5 CPUs atp

[latent ledge]

Nice

[lapis condor]

Unless you put your RAM sticks in the wrong slots but, yknow
Don't do that

[plain cypress]

codename: RealMenOwnFabs Lake

i think it was an AMD person who said that

[tardy jay]

I currently own a 3470

[glad fog]

real men own fabs?

[high lava]

in general probably. But never say never. I had a bitch of a time with a am4 cpu that just couldn't keep it's ram timings for it's life

[latent ledge]

There’s just enabled/disabled so I’ll leave it on enabled
And that’s ok, it’s been running stable so far on the default expo profile so it should be good
Thank you for the help

[lapis condor]

Yeah that's AM4 and not AM5

[tardy jay]

The age definitely shows…

[latent ledge]

Yea I looked at the manual first lol

[midnight meteor]

What I recommend is searching if your motherboard has a guide

[obsidian oriole]

CL30 6800 vs CL28 6400 for gaming?

[tardy jay]

Like a manual on the website?

[plain cypress]

i got the quote slightly wrong

“Real men have fabs” is a quote from Jerry Sanders, the former CEO and chairman of Advanced Micro Devices (AMD)

[high lava]

Don't mention it, we all can use some pointers at times. Especially if one are a newcomer to a new hobby

[midnight meteor]

Probs 3rd party ngl on yt

[lapis condor]

Neither will run on AM5 without significant tuning

[midnight meteor]

I had to go on yt for mine

[glad fog]

maybe real men do own fabs

[latent ledge]

Should I tune my ram subtimings? I just know my timings currently are 30-38-38-30-1.350V

[lapis condor]

Do not bother touching those unless you want to go down a very, very deep rabbit hole

[plain cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/intel-pat-gelsinger-papa-computer-chip-gif-4422124117738847315

[true stirrup]

I did some ram overclocking today again and now even my previously stable 6800MT/s cl38-42-42-28 is not stable anymore and 1usmus TM5 shows signs of a corrupted bios. So fun

[obsidian oriole]

I got both running. I'm just too lazy to benchmark

[lapis condor]

And spend approximately 1 to 2 weekends stability testing your RAM

[lapis condor]

Are you on AM5?

[glad fog]

why not man, take care of them all

[latent ledge]

Yup, definitely a newcomer… this is actually the first pc I’ve ever built and it was so fun

[obsidian oriole]

Yeah.

[lapis condor]

Did you adjust uclk div mode at all

[latent ledge]

Ooh yeah I’ll keep away then

[obsidian oriole]

Crossfire Hero X870E, 9800x3D until I upgrade soon.

[midnight meteor]

Upgrade soon?

[high lava]

You could experiment. If you want. I would look up a ram tuning tutorial and try follow along and try to stability test it as one goes along. Otherwise you'll be likely pretty good to go as is

[lapis condor]

Ok so you might be able to do 6400 1:1 if your CPU allows for it, but 6800 2:1 is worse than 6000 1:1 in every way, shape and form

[obsidian oriole]

1:1 uclk

For 6400

[tardy jay]

My ram has a max of 1600

[obsidian oriole]

6800 needs work if possible.

[lapis condor]

Also each time you set freq above 6000 you'll need to set the div mode

[true stirrup]

DDR3 moment

[lapis condor]

6800 1:1 is actually impossible
There have been no recorded instances of AM5 CPUs being able to boot that

[tardy jay]

The bane of my existence

[latent ledge]

Yeah I think I’ll just leave it how it is so I don’t mess something up :/

[rapid quarry]

Double it and give it to the next person

[lapis condor]

6600 1:1 has happened but it's a 1 in a million thing

If you can tune 6400 1:1 to be stable, then neat do that (and please actually tune subtimings if you're fucking around with all that already)

[tardy jay]

Core i5-3470 too

[lethal bay]

There’s a handful of chips that can bench 6600 1:1 but stable? nah lol

[high lava]

You can always come back to it over time if you want to take a crack at it later

[rapid quarry]

Double that too

[obsidian oriole]

There was this https://www.guru3d.com/story/gskill-demonstrates-ddr510600-and-ddr56800-memory-performance-on-asus-rog-crosshair-x870e-apex/ but I am not gskill, nor do I have that board

[tardy jay]

I’m so broke

[lapis condor]

I wonder if ever there'll be a zen5 CPU that'll do 8800 with 2200 fclk

[latent ledge]

Oh also when you said pbo did you mean just making sure it was enabled or also enabling pbo enhancement?

[lethal bay]

would be nuts

[lapis condor]

1.435vsoc
This is called a yeet run, where you don't care if the chip dies

[latent ledge]

Maybe… but I’ll definitely want to learn more about it first

[lethal bay]

Yeah 1.435vsoc is “chip dies tomorrow ” voltage

[obsidian oriole]

Will probably just aim for a stable 6400, then

[lapis condor]

Best of luck

[obsidian oriole]

Thank you, friend!

[vivid pendant]

Anybody know what brands are good for 9070xt GPUs

[lapis condor]

And ensure that it's actually running 1:1

[lapis condor]

Literally all of them

[true stirrup]

The cheapest one

[vivid pendant]

My dad was looking to get one but I honestly have absolutely no idea which ones would be good and what brands are reliable on team red

[lapis condor]

The differences are in the single digits

Also they're all out of stock already so uh
oof

[latent ledge]

The white ones were out of stock in the first 6 minutes 😭

[obsidian oriole]

Unless you are blessed by microcenter

[true stirrup]

Unless you will be overclocking it really far it doesn't at all matter

[tardy jay]

Did Intel skip a few generations?

[true stirrup]

No

[tardy jay]

I own a 3rd gen from like 10 years ago and we’re on like 12 now

[true stirrup]

Core ultra

[inner veldt]

Anyone tested 9070XT on tarkov?

[high lava]

They didn't really have a mainstream 5th gen.

[true stirrup]

But it exists

[lapis condor]

Intel's 2000 series released 14 years ago

[vivid pendant]

Well some of these only have two eight pin connectors and some have three a pin connectors and some have the 12 volt hpwr connector

The card definitely draws over 300 watts so I don't know if two eight pins would be a safe option

[lapis condor]

Also, we were on 14th gen, then intel changed naming schemes, so technically 15th gen

[mystic verge]

Is there an rgb pcie 8pin and 6pin cause I am only finding 8pin to 8pin

[lapis condor]

PCIe slot provides 75W

[plain cypress]

Oh fuck it's older than half the server

[vivid pendant]

Don't cards prefer to draw power over the plug versus the board first?

[true stirrup]

150W per 6+2 pin + 75W from PCIe slot

[lapis condor]

So, 150+150+75, 375W total power budget for the card, and the 9070 XT has a TDP of 304 and tends to hover around that in the most stressful of workloads

[vivid pendant]

An extra 50-100 dollars is not an issue

[lapis condor]

Depends entirely on the design of the card

[vivid pendant]

Doesn't the sapphire cards use the 12 2x6?

[hexed tapir]

they should bump it up to 105watts

[plain cypress]

Just the top model

[mystic verge]

Is there a Pcie cable rgb for 8pin and 6 pin because my graphics card rx 6700xt takes only that

[plain cypress]

Why not kilowatt?

[rapid quarry]

There are no issues I can think of. They will all be the same perf. And since they are selling like hotcakes, there is no reason to pause and buy ponder what model you want. Maybe if the demand settles and the scalpers stop scalping to high heaven, then you could ponder between brands

[lapis condor]

The Asrock Taichi and the Sapphire Nitro+ use the 12v2x6 connector, yes

[obsidian oriole]

with a 850W PSU and a 85% power cap XD

[steel umbra]

are they load balanced

[lapis condor]

No

[true stirrup]

Push the power limit further

[mystic verge]

Is there a Pcie cable rgb for 8pin and 6 pin because my graphics card rx 6700xt takes only that

[lapis condor]

3rd time you've asked
No

There is no lian li strimer cable for that config

[steel umbra]

oh mb i did recall just now nitro+ didn’t… taichi doesn’t?? damm

that’s sad

[mystic verge]

😦 is there one 8 to 8 but I can remove 2?

[hexed tapir]

what about a megawatt

[lapis condor]

I mean sure with some flush cutters

[vivid pendant]

Mayfield still has 25+ listed on one of the power cooler models and like 30 across the others

[mystic verge]

What’s a flush cutter I am European

[obsidian oriole]

Tbh, I probably can. My CPU is AMD, so I have plenty of headroom.

[mystic verge]

Not 🦅🦅🦅

[clear canyon]

what amd cpu?

[mystic verge]

Nah 💀💀💀

[obsidian oriole]

9800x3d atm

[true stirrup]

Oh yeah you have the 9800x3D
You are chilling since that pulls really low amounts of wattage

[lapis condor]

You can actually load both the CPU and GPU to max with your PSU without exceeding anything

[clear canyon]

yeah ur good, also hopefully you dont encounter the failing 9800x3d's

[true stirrup]

Max out the power limit
Trust

[obsidian oriole]

What even happens if you draw more power than a PSU can handle? I assume that the PC shuts down.

[clear canyon]

7800x3d pulls much lower, 9800x3d does much more

[true stirrup]

Still quite low tho

[rapid quarry]

I personally prefer dollar store scissors for the authentic jank feel

[true stirrup]

Yeah it just shuts down

[lapis condor]

If it's a good PSU it'll do about 100W more than what it's rated for, then it'll shut down, yes

[naive chasm]

fellers

[clear canyon]

no its normal, iv seen them pull 100-120watts

[naive chasm]

henlo

[clear canyon]

my 7800x3ed maxes at 50

[latent pasture]

good psu just turns off and no pars affected
mid psu breaks but still no parts affected
bad psu the part that draws too much power breaks
trash psu several parts break

[naive chasm]

i am converting to zorin os and linux

i bid farewell to bloat

[true stirrup]

I consider 100-120W still quite low 😅

[clear canyon]

thats not low

[plain cypress]

apples stupid mac pro gpus are actually kinda cool

[civic ferry]

Power turned off during gpu driver installation
Thank God for UPS being a thing

[plain cypress]

beautiful

[naive chasm]

majestique

[true stirrup]

intel

[midnight meteor]

What is that

[obsidian oriole]

Ok, at 90%, I hit 830W power usage, per the PSU's display.

Benchmark score actually dropped due to run to run variance.

I could probably OC more with the additional power

[tidal geyser]

has the money for a 5090 but not like 130$ on a 1300w psu

[clear canyon]

daisy chain cheap dell psus

[tidal geyser]

yeah no, not gonna work

[obsidian oriole]

It is that PSUs are out of stock

[naive chasm]

nah fo real chat

[obsidian oriole]

Atleast any of the ones that I want

[tidal geyser]

no

[naive chasm]

should i just install

[rugged sand]

What is it? A gpu?

[naive chasm]

zorin os

[obsidian oriole]

Yes. I have been using stock trackers for months

[tidal geyser]

then maybe look at other units?

risking killing your entire system at worst is not a smart move

[obsidian oriole]

No. Why would I? I can run the card perfectly fine and take my time waiting for the parts I want, instead of rushing and wasting money

[lapis condor]

Running a 5090 on a good 850W PSU is fine lol

[hexed tapir]

down grade to a very super safe 1050w psu https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pFZFf7/apevia-signature-1050-w-80-bronze-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-atx-sn1050w /s

[obsidian oriole]

Yup. At 85%, I am using around 750W at max load, while getting no performance decrease due to OC and undervolt

[tidal geyser]

what games did you test with?

[obsidian oriole]

Monster Hunter Wilds and Path of Exile 2

[civic ferry]

its not fine its not fine the installer uses the web and when the power cut of the internet it failed the driver instalation

[vivid pendant]

Monster Hunter wilds is incredibly unoptimized that's a bad test

There's literally a typo in the coading you can look it up. This is what's causing the most of the unoptimization for it an actual typo in the coding causing errors

[tidal geyser]

o well anyways a 1.2KW psu is 145
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CnYmP6/thermaltake-toughpower-gf3-tt-premium-1200-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-1200fnfagu-4

[lapis condor]

And in its unoptimisation surely that'd increase the power draw of the system :)

[vivid pendant]

I don't draw very much power without a power limit in that game in 4K Max settings native

The game itself just doesn't draw max power for the card for whatever reason

[plain cypress]

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MJ103AM/A/radeon-pro-w6900x-mpx-module
yes, for intel mac pro

[obsidian oriole]

This was debunked. Also, it is a good test because it uses many resources.

[vivid pendant]

Use aida64 benchmark That maxes everything on your system at the same time if you want to see draw

[latent pasture]

its not a good test when it looks like a game from 2010

ur not allowed to look like a 2009 game on low settings but make rtx gpus low fps

[lapis condor]

Also 3dmark exists in your general vicinity

[obsidian oriole]

Maybe on low. It looks good on ultra.

[vivid pendant]

Cinabench + 3d mark at the same time

Max power draw on both CPU and GPU lol

My system has done 1000 Watts sustained max draw for a bit already

[latent pasture]

cinebench doesnt have the highest power consumption

[vivid pendant]

My GPU is drawing 600-640

[empty quartz]

The sound of destroying a monitor is soooo crisp and satisfying:3

[vivid pendant]

Drives + fans + AIO and my 9800 drawing 150+

[hexed tapir]

what was broken on it?

[empty quartz]

Screen

[tidal geyser]

it just was

[plain cypress]

Now this is asmr

[vivid pendant]

Also in case anybody is having any issues with their 5090 system they dislike power strips lol

[plain cypress]

Pure hardware destruction 😍

[vivid pendant]

Even though the power strip I had was rated for 2000 Watts and I've seen reviews on it getting it tested up to that and it performing fine They still just dislike having the system plugged into a power strip

[hexed tapir]

like the back light or the lcd screen itself

[mellow cairn]

.... that's not how power works

[vivid pendant]

Dunno

But it kept turning off randomly while plugged into the power strip with no rhyme or reason

[tidal geyser]

voltage drop?

[hexed tapir]

if it was just the light that was broken you could have made it into a cool display https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXrn4MqY1Wo

[tidal geyser]

o wait i was the one who helped you

[vivid pendant]

Inconsistency with the power strip and voltage drop lol

[vivid pendant]

YEAH lol

[tidal geyser]

PSUs doing that many amps really do not like it when the voltage is bellow normal.

[glad fog]

i mean to be fair, the 5090 draws so much power it is not surprising.

you plug a heater into an extension cord, it's going to start melting.

[tidal geyser]

up to the cables on the strip or extension cord

[mellow cairn]

no, it isn't - if you plug it into a wall that's further from the distro how does that work

It's a function of the cross section of the wires used

[glad fog]

well, i tell you because this is my personal experience.

the power cable will start melting.

[mellow cairn]

yes, but you say it like it's an inevitable rule - it isn't

[steel umbra]

buy a better power cable / cord

[glad fog]

it is inevitable

[mellow cairn]

you can buy heavy duty extension cables

[mellow cairn]

You don't know shit about fuck

[glad fog]

are you okay?

[vivid pendant]

I have a very good extension with a bunch of slots. Its rated for 2000 watts and it's been thoroughly tested in reviews I've watched up to that but it just didn't like being plugged into there and I haven't had any issues since moving it

[glad fog]

idiot wants to play with fire, play with it.

[steel umbra]

i’ve opened few power strips and it was laughable how some of them are rated for 16A 230V

[vivid pendant]

Honestly I wouldn't trust people who are going to talk to others like that anyways

[mellow cairn]

... you guys are out here drawing conclusions from zero understanding and a sample set of one

And then defending them

[glad fog]

where do these heavy extension cords exist

[mellow cairn]

This is physics and science

[glad fog]

let me know

[vivid pendant]

I'm drawing conclusions based on what was actually happening so I really don't give a damn what your physics and science is saying

[mellow cairn]

in shops

[obsidian oriole]

Looks good so far.

[vivid pendant]

You don't know the exact model I have You don't know the exact make of everything you don't know the exact quality of the cables in the walls of my house there's no way for your physics and science to determine this

[steel umbra]

he bought a cheap thing, it melted, doesn’t mean the good stuff wouldn’t cause such issue

[vivid pendant]

With power strip

No I was not using integrated graphics It was utilizing the 5090 but it started to refuse to clock over 500 MHz

[lapis condor]

Nvidia driver momentTM

[vivid pendant]

Plugged it back into the wall immediately got 14635

[mellow cairn]

The "exact quality" of cables in the walls of houses are in fact legal requirements

[hexed tapir]

just use a heavy gauge "cord and dont point the heater at it

[vivid pendant]

And in fact these legal requirements change over time when codes get updated like I said you don't have enough information so you can't be trying to base this on science and physics

Also I'm sorry to inform you but if you have a cheap contractor make a house and they use cheap cables you have no proof that they followed the legal requirements

[mellow cairn]

spoiler alert, everything is based on science and physics

[vivid pendant]

And I can promise you there are outlets in my house that do not follow these legal requirements because I've had to replace these things

[mellow cairn]

"5090s don't like power boards" is an inane thing to say

[vivid pendant]

My house was built by a very crappy contractor I've had to rewire over half of the outlets in my house so far due to them failing and cables just not delivering power like they should be

[vivid pendant]

In my experience this is true

[mellow cairn]

"My power supply couldn't supply enough power to my 5090 when I plugged it into a powerboard in my situation"

[vivid pendant]

We made sure to rewire everything going up to my room before installing this so it's not that

[steel umbra]

you should’ve reported him if possible, filed a complaint

[glad fog]

most power strips/extension cords that are sold are not going to be able to handle a heater.

[mellow cairn]

Your experience, as covered, is a sample set of one.

[sour sentinel]

There’s black borders on all my wallpapers can someone help

[vivid pendant]

That's not what I said buddy

[mellow cairn]

no, that's what you should have said

[vivid pendant]

My power supply is a 1300 w PSU and it was supplying power just fine for a couple of days but then it decided it did not like it anymore once I set it to run more intensive games. And it is a problem with the power strip which I also tested later with equipment designed to test this

So my statement is indeed correct It did not like the power strip which was not providing sufficient power

Because outside of games it had literally no issues .-.

[latent pasture]

how can a power strip not provide sufficient power

[steel umbra]

fire extinguisher moment

[glad fog]

i dont trust power strips much.

[mellow cairn]

When you don't understand how power works, everything is simple

[latent pasture]

i thought you can overdraw strips just fine theyll just heat up
unless it itself has some limitor?

[steel umbra]

or if it’s faulty

and contacts inside the strip don’t work as they should in case of a strip with a switch

[left dove]

then use a better power strip that isn't dinky as shit.

[lethal bay]

[vivid pendant]

It's a big strip. And I also know that many other people were having issues with their PCs plugging them into power strips specifically with 5090s

[vivid pendant]

Read the entire conversation, thank you

[left dove]

I have.

[steel umbra]

that’s not how electricity works

[vivid pendant]

Then you would have already understood that it was a very good power strip but that obviously didn't matter

[lethal bay]

nah it’s way funnier for me to take shit out of context and argue with you about it

[steel umbra]

your psu would shutdown by that moment

[left dove]

"very good" is subjective.

[vivid pendant]

Yeah it did

[mellow cairn]

clearly it wasn't, because it caused problems

[vivid pendant]

It acted like surge or current protection and just shut itself off multiple times while I was gaming

[glad fog]

so what i sa good powerstrip brand, if there is one.

[mellow cairn]

if it was good, it would work

[steel umbra]

buy a better strip that can deliver AC without creating too much resistance/impedance, problem solved

[vivid pendant]

It worked fine for the kitchen appliances xD and that draws way more then a 5090 so idk man

[left dove]

so its not a good power strip if its tripping under its rated trip point

[vivid pendant]

I just plugged it into the wall I don't need to spend more money for literally no reason

[mellow cairn]

power draw is not a simple linear thing, and not all loads are the same

[vivid pendant]

That is correct They are not all the same and I don't think so stupid handling the random transient spikes my PC is having very well

[mellow cairn]

nah man, those don't exist

[cosmic robin]

Out of all the things that can go wrong with a PC, how common is a faulty PSU?

[mellow cairn]

which is a function of your power supply, primarily

[mellow cairn]

relatively uncommon but hardly unheard of

[lethal bay]

Depends. Is the PSU $20 or $200?

[steel umbra]

just buy a strip that rated for X current and Y voltage from a decently reputable company or if the model has been tested and doesn’t have qc issues, and you’ll not have issues with your 5090

[glad fog]

the chance is that most of the power strips/extension cords sold are not rated for that kind of usage. general recommendation ive found is not to plug them in extension cords.

[vivid pendant]

I have a very good power supply lol.

[vivid pendant]

Honestly that really depends on many factors

[lethal bay]

very good™️

[vivid pendant]

ASRock phantom gaming 1300 G

[tidal geyser]

all i have of dead parts that died randomly is a i7 9700f

[frail topaz]

guys i have the power to buy anything under $150 on aliexpress, is there any way i could cop something for my pc? like one of the parts?https://pcpartpicker.com/user/itsmaclol69/saved/#view=ZWwCD3

[hexed tapir]

just dont plug electric heaters in shit like this

[vivid pendant]

It has all of the types of current protection every other protection you can think of and it also has heat protection so it will shut off if my 16-pin cable gets hot

[tame siren]

depends, for reputable brands its very rare, if you get something from mars gaming or something its basically guaranteed to either be doa or explode when plugging in

[cosmic robin]

Im not the most technologically savvy. I bought a prebuilt and it just shut off randomly on me, so I took it in as it was under warranty and they said faulty PSU

Prebuilt so I’m assuming it’s whatever they had lying around lol

[vivid pendant]

A very large portion of pre-builts that I have seen skimp out on parts like PSU and motherboard even the case sometimes

[hexed tapir]

and dedicatd wams

[vivid pendant]

Yeah

[verbal prawn]

Remember you're supposed to daisy chain these if you're using electric heaters

[woeful narwhal]

godlike mb is wild

[tame siren]

the government doesnt want you to know this but you should definetly plug a 500w+ heater into that, not only gets your room hot quicker but also delivers a stunning light show

[rapid quarry]

From what I’ve heard, this problem is not an issue at least in the UK due to an actual fuse in the cord if the power draw exceeds the cable’s rated capacity

[tidal geyser]

i think thats a UK plug and no there is no fuse in it

[mellow cairn]

The UK has actual power cables and rules that make it a lot less shit

[frail topaz]

@tidal geyser waaaaaaah

[vivid pendant]

Godlike motherboard is pretty. (And what I needed tbh lol. I still can't figure out why I have no control over the fan speed of that top blue fan and my front two 200mm intakes

[hexed tapir]

nany state UK making power cords safe smh

[frail topaz]

idk if u can help but! reccomend what ishould buy

[vivid pendant]

When my other fans come in I'm just going to go back there and rewire everything

[verbal prawn]

We want fire

[rapid quarry]

I wish this was the case over in Fahrenheit Land.

[tidal geyser]

cpu is a safe bet

[frail topaz]

r7 7700x for less than $150??

[steel umbra]

7700 non x

[tidal geyser]

you were going to do 1440p right?

[vivid pendant]

https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/matthew-wilson/retailer-claims-nvidia-is-recalling-large-number-of-rtx-5090-graphics-cards-due-to-fire-hazard/

xD

[frail topaz]

yah

[tidal geyser]

7500f is fine

[steel umbra]

look for 7700, 7500f, 7400f

[sleek ibex]

S'mores and electric fires go hand in hand

[frail topaz]

r7 7700 is $250

[steel umbra]

rip

[tidal geyser]

7500f is plenty fine

[tame siren]

do they spin faster when your cpu goes under load? might have connected them to a cpu fan connector (no idea if the godlike has more than 1, i could imagine so though) like a friend did by accident

[frail topaz]

well the thing is i like 7

[tepid gazelle]

Where does this go ? It’s from the front panel

[vivid pendant]

They are sitting at max all the time lol

[steel umbra]

even 7400f same cpu

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/why-persian-room-cat-guardian-but-why-trendizisst-anyaboz-gif-2156104475561014590

[tame siren]

ah well, are said fans even speed controllable?

[vivid pendant]

Honestly I'm not too worried about it because they're pretty quiet even with that but I would like to actually connect them so I can control them based on CPU or GPU temperature

[tidal geyser]

top left on the picture

[frail topaz]

ok well what else can i possibly get

[vivid pendant]

Yeah. I'm pretty sure I just connected them wrong

[hexed tapir]

on your mobo should be on the right side if you have the connector

[tidal geyser]

i would not gamble on anything else

[vivid pendant]

Holy crap I can't type today

[tidal geyser]

nope i am blind

[tame siren]

that would be a type c connector for your mobo, many older or cheaper ones dont have it(like mine)

[frail topaz]

well whadaya think i can get cz i got all this money and i dont wanna let it go to waste

[tame siren]

what kind of fans are they?

[hexed tapir]

https://wccftech.com/12vhpwr-connector-reaches-150c-on-the-psu-side-when-connected-to-the-rtx-5090/ "two of the wires from the 12-pin connector cable were carrying most of the load, which resulted in high temperatures."

[steel umbra]

what’s your motherboard model

[tidal geyser]

'

[tepid gazelle]

B650 aorus elite ax v2

[steel umbra]

we love melting smelly plastic

[vivid pendant]

Yes I know already

[frail topaz]

arrrrrrrrrrrrrgh

[steel umbra]

it should have it

[tepid gazelle]

Ohhhhh I see it

I’m blind

[vivid pendant]

Even the 1080 was melting cables, nothing new

[tepid gazelle]

Thank you guys

[hexed tapir]

sim is too slow smh

[tidal geyser]

im on the 4 core i5 laptop well 4p core

[steel umbra]

far rarer

[hexed tapir]

im on my powerfull 5700x3d and 5700xt pc

[tidal geyser]

did i say 4

i meant i am on a i5 with 2 good cores

[vivid pendant]

More rare? Sure, still can happen

[tidal geyser]

my laptop is a good bit more modern well not really cpu

[steel umbra]

6+2 pin pcie has way higher tolerance for loose contact than 12vhpwr/12v-6x2

[hexed tapir]

aww you have a Celeron so cute

[vivid pendant]

I'm not having any problems with my 12 volt 6x2

[tidal geyser]

i5 13th gen

[late pelican]

Anyone here use Wicked Cushions ? and able to say they actually keep your ears cool ?

[lapis condor]

And a much higher factor of safety

[vivid pendant]

Even when the ambient temperature in my room was at 95° f because of how hot my computer made the room it still wasn't even hot It wasn't even painful to touch while it was running under load

[warm linden]

Good deal?

[tidal geyser]

high sped

[tidal geyser]

no

its 5$ under msrp

[vivid pendant]

What even is the point of that 8 efficiency cores and two performance cores

[tidal geyser]

anyways why would they be selling it

[warm linden]

They bought 2

[tidal geyser]

laptop

[drowsy flame]

Here’s the hours and a video of the monitor on a blank white screen to prove no burn in or dead pixels

[tidal geyser]

but yeah no it also has a mx550 but all of it just sucks and it just does not last

[hexed tapir]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QKbTwP/intel-celeron-g6900-34-ghz-dual-core-processor-bx80715g6900 same amount of p cores 😛

[plain cypress]

Small laptop chip
8E cores will have better multi threading than 2 more P cores

[drowsy flame]

Gonna go pick this up right after dinner

[steel umbra]

celery

[frail topaz]

sim in just gonna end up buying a mikrotik hap ax2 cz i cant find anything else

[tidal geyser]

even a 8th gen desktop i3 has more p cores then my laptop

[drowsy flame]

Is this enough due diligence to do when buying a used OLED?

[tidal geyser]

nice

also, on ALL the motherboards and cpus i have i think the best cpu combo i have is a i5 10500 or 8086k soooo dam

i really need to grab better cpus

[cosmic robin]

Where do Deepcool sit for quality of PSU? I believe that’s what my prebuilt used that they said was faulty. And how accurate is this list? https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/forums/topic/100483-psu-brands-to-avoid

[tidal geyser]

i have too many i3s

[tidal geyser]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/htmlview?pli=1

[cosmic robin]

I have the Deepcool 750w gold. Can someone tell me where that sits on that spreadsheet? My phone doesn’t like that link for some reason

[quiet sphinx]

hi guys i have been having fps issues where it drops to 1 fps and goes back up. I had thermal problems with CPU but fixed.

[tidal geyser]

not a name

i need the name of the psu

[tidal geyser]

specs

what game

[cosmic robin]

I can’t tell you off the top of my head. My pc is in the shop

All I have are the specs from the listing and all it tells me is 750w gold under PSU

[quiet sphinx]

3060, 12400f, 32G 5600mt ddr5 i have tried updating browser but no mass

any ideas before i buy a new cpu

[tidal geyser]

cant do much then

[tidal geyser]

what

[tidal geyser]

what game

[quiet sphinx]

not browser drivers

siege ultra and medium same fault

[tidal geyser]

do you have a anti virus program

or vanguard?

[quiet sphinx]

no not atm

[tidal geyser]

good

what about vanguard

as in have you installed valorant or something

when was the last time you reinstalled windows/ installed windows?

[steel umbra]

nice list but not perfect

[tidal geyser]

ok gib perfect list then

[cosmic robin]

PQ750M I think

[rugged swift]

is 3200mhz ram okay for the R7 5800X? im on a budget so im wondering if the difference between 3200 and 3600 is that noticeable

[steel umbra]

no way!! throws pineapples at you and you explodes

[tidal geyser]

A tier

[steel umbra]

cultists server

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/steam-cat-cooking-wet-cat-gif-27103530

[rugged swift]

if i need too i can definitely buy a 3600 kit its just i want to save money where i can

[cosmic robin]

Oh no way, not bad. Cheers

[tidal geyser]

what kinda budget and what do you own now?

[quiet sphinx]

i built the pc a few months ago and have done an uipdate in the past month

[hexed heath]

What's the price difference? Faster is better but price would dictate if it's worth spending the extra.

[tidal geyser]

did the pc run well at the start

[rugged swift]

£1000 (total), first pc

[tidal geyser]

why not go am5

[quiet sphinx]

if you are uk i have a good deal on ddr4 i bought by mistake

[tidal geyser]

he sadly is not

[quiet sphinx]

unfortunate overseas shipping would make it as much as amazon

[rugged swift]

i am lol

[quiet sphinx]

oh dm for the details

[tidal geyser]

FUUUUU i really need to get some sleep soon

i saw pound as euro

anyways 1k punds can do am5 ez pz

[rugged swift]

ive heard this soooo many times (i really dont want to)

[tidal geyser]

WHYY

[quiet sphinx]

intel reigns supreme

[rugged swift]

like £10 ish lol not that much

[rugged swift]

BECAUSE IM BUYING A PREBUILT OKAY I DONT WANT TO FUCK ANYTHING UP IF I BUILD IT

[tidal geyser]

nice

there should be am5 prebuilts for 1k i hope, also i make prebuilts doing inventory right now

[hexed heath]

I'd go for the faster stuff unless going with the cheaper RAM puts you into a faster or larger SSD or something like that.

[frail topaz]

i dont understand the fact that u can be scared to build a pc, like i get it its a lot of money but 95% of the parts are TERRIBLY idiotproof

Immensly idiotproof

[rugged swift]

niceeee, im buying from a UK company that ive done a fair amount of research on, cyberpower is wayyy too overpriced lol

[tidal geyser]

that company is

[rugged swift]

coolio

[frail topaz]

cyberpower 😔

[rugged swift]

awd-it.co.uk

[tidal geyser]

some people just do not want to or are unable to, with me its also cheaper then building it yourself

[frail topaz]

nono i understand it if you have money to throw around but if youre on a budget it makes 0 SENES

I HIGHLY doubt this ($86)

[steel umbra]

not too unreasonable

check the seller and if the ssd has a review

[tidal geyser]

7000MB but on pcie 3.0

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[steel umbra]

explodes

[quiet sphinx]

please tell me thats not ali express

[tidal geyser]

it is

[quiet sphinx]

this is the LTT dc right?

[steel umbra]

it’s just a marketplace

[tidal geyser]

yes

[frail topaz]

Nah

[quiet sphinx]

yeah but its rife with scammers

[steel umbra]

their refund policy is good

[tidal geyser]

good thing you do not lose money on it

only thing you can lose with ali is time

[frail topaz]

i mean for a game drive it aint bad

[rugged swift]

is a R7 5800X and RX 7600 XT okay for gaming and workstation tasks?

[tidal geyser]

breaking the laws of computing

[junior valve]

maybe

[frail topaz]

lol ofc thats fake

[tidal geyser]

thats a very sad combo for 1000

you can just scream yolo and hope for the best

[frail topaz]

a rx 7600xt is like $300 💔

[tidal geyser]

fun fact he can do 7500f and 7800 xt with that'

[junior valve]

thats like a 4060

[steel umbra]

buy from a reputable seller, that sells reputable goods or goods that can be hardly faked and can be proven counterfeit easily if you are less experienced buyer, i recommend recording when unboxing packages from ali

[rugged swift]

[frail topaz]

always have, just seen a 2TB Nvme for $86 and it is ENTICING

[rugged swift]

how so?

[tidal geyser]

well this https://discordapp.com/channels/375436620578684930/381193783296917507/1347353371962642534

[rugged swift]

indeed

[ripe spire]

Help not my 3D printer app now having a live activity thing

[tidal geyser]

welp if its the best ya can get then its the best ya can get

[tidal geyser]

xd

just let it happen

[rugged swift]

DUDE JUST TELL ME WHATS WRONG WITH IT

[tidal geyser]

price to performance

[steel umbra]

I got refunded back on a thermal paste on aliexpress and it is a well… thermal paste

gave them basic proof of it not being legitimate paste i ordered and they refunded

[rugged swift]

what would you build with a £1k budget then

[steel umbra]

you gotta dispute the seller if you find out something out of place that’s not supposted to happen

[frail delta]

You can disable live activities for certain apps in settings

Like AliExpress started using live activites as ads

[tranquil bluff]

could someone please help me to decide if i should just sell and buy a pc or upgrade my current one, im willing to spend around $400-450 at this current moment.

[latent pasture]

whats ur current pc

[steel umbra]

depends on your current parts owned, locality

[tidal geyser]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/bHwqwY
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/1005008073148125.html

[tranquil bluff]

ryzen 7 1700, Gtx 1080, hyper X 4x4gb 2400MHz, GA-AB350-Gaming 3 (rev. 1.x), corsair 650W bronze, 1Tb hardrive, 500GB SSD, x3 RGB and 1 red RGB fans, 120mm AIO (dunno the model or brand), TP-Link wifi card and lian Li 011 dynamic case

[tidal geyser]

why not just upgrade x or change the thermal paste on x

[tidal geyser]

xd

yeah no, 5700X3D for you

[latent pasture]

why not

[tidal geyser]

fixed

[left dove]

(he needs his hand held)

[steel umbra]

does your motherboard support ryzen 5000 with newest bios update?

[plain cypress]

big sale indeed 😏

[left dove]

oh, typing in the wrong window

[tidal geyser]

wut

[tranquil bluff]

lemme check 1 sec

[latent pasture]

supports everything

[tidal geyser]

thats kinda my rule with am4 now since just about everything support everything now

[latent pasture]

or even if not x3d, just get any vermeer zen3 is still a giant upgraed from zen 1

[tidal geyser]

r5 5600

7800 xt and 5600 would be a great combo maybe also swaping to 2x16 3200MT ram sticks

[tidal geyser]

it does

god dam it, looks like it will go to bed at 2am again and have like 5hrs of sleep kinda day

[latent pasture]

if theyre really worried abt budget they can try just 5600/any other nonx3d zen3 and see if it can deal with the 4x4gb ram

[tranquil bluff]

but also idk why it doesnt but my case has a usb c port but my motherboard doesnt even support usb c

[latent pasture]

16gb is ehhh but still usable

[tidal geyser]

fun fact PGA am4 cpus fit in the am5 clam shell thingy

[tidal geyser]

2400MT and probs shit cl

[steel umbra]

slam the cpu into the socket and see what happens when you try closing the mechanism 🧌

[tidal geyser]

well usb-c internal has been a thing on older more premium boards, have a 6th gen mobo with usb-c internal

[latent pasture]

theyre on a gtx 1080 kappa

[ripe spire]

Who said I wanted to disable it

[tidal geyser]

well that is a different case

[ripe spire]

This feels illegal

[tidal geyser]

1080 is fine but that cpu is what needs changing most

[frail delta]

I am very surprised Apple let them

[steel umbra]

legendary pascal

or relic

[latent pasture]

yeah i meant that since they have a relatively low end gpu the finer cpu/ram performance wont be as noticeable

[tranquil bluff]

so should i upgrade the mobo? coz ima def upgrade the cpu and ram

[latent pasture]

if they want to upgrade the gpu too then thats when they get a new kit
assuming it even runs on an old b350 tho

[tidal geyser]

thats what we are trying as hard as possible to not do

[tidal geyser]

it does

[latent pasture]

the cheapskate in me suggest upgrade only the cpu for now and see if u like the perf

[tranquil bluff]

alr thanks guys

[tidal geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/532914296502353930/1333352803317317673/attachment.gif

[inner veldt]

Cancelled 5070ti

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/meow-dancing-cat-cat-dancing-meow-meow-meow-gif-14608759981751543562

[inner veldt]

Would wait price drop a bit or would get 9070xt

I feel like scammed on 50 series actually

[tidal geyser]

i do wonder what price was that 5070 ti at?

[inner veldt]

1200 USD

[tidal geyser]

JESUS

thats more then the 5080

[inner veldt]

5080 is 1600

[tidal geyser]

well i am talking about msrp

[inner veldt]

Yeaj

9070xt is 1000 btw

[tidal geyser]

sadly

you should try to go to a micro center

[inner veldt]

Not in US

[tidal geyser]

wtf, why use USD then?

[inner veldt]

Would you understand if i tell in my currency?

[tidal geyser]

yes

we have google, and its currency conversion

[inner veldt]

Wouldn’t you convert to USD?

[tidal geyser]

yes but i would know your not in the US then

[latent pasture]

what did u think ppl were gonna do if u use usd
theyll convert back to ur curency, look at prices of other stuff in ur currency, then convert it back
its a useless step that provides absolutely nothing to the discussion

[inner veldt]

Ah

[plush wren]

see you later alligator

[inner veldt]

I guess that is good to state so everyone (mostly US based) can understand price without googling it

[tidal geyser]

im not even close to the US

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-trapped-kitten-speech-bubble-gif-25553629

[inner veldt]

Arab cat

[frail topaz]

Purrito

[inner veldt]

46k TL is 5070Ti, 30-35k 9070XT then

[latent pasture]

whats the price of 7900xt u can find if any

[inner veldt]

37k

[tidal geyser]

30k 9070 xt would be miles better then

[inner veldt]

Yeah but its for pulse, 34k for aorus elite

[latent pasture]

its all the same

[tidal geyser]

pulse is one of the better versions

[inner veldt]

TUF is overpriced here af, 42k

[inner veldt]

Ah

[latent pasture]

the only differences are how loud the fans are

performance wise all gpus r the same

[tidal geyser]

fun fact sapphire are the ones that have made amd cards

not the core ofc

[inner veldt]

True

Nvidia ofc destroys with MFG but idk

[sharp robin]

hello any solution for black screens after the Nvidia update

[tidal geyser]

yeah no nvidia drivers are crap

[inner veldt]

Also this available

[tidal geyser]

ddu

[latent pasture]

amd will come up with their own mfg
if a $3 app on steam can do it then surely billion dollar company can

[tidal geyser]

what cpu?

[inner veldt]

People who uses 5070Ti says there are differences with loseless scaling with MFG

[latent pasture]

ofc there are

[storm rivet]

yo would anyone be able to check out my post in #1106613567966429224

[sharp robin]

Ryzen 7 7900x

[tidal geyser]

not a thing

anyways that has a igpu

[latent pasture]

the ugly child of all ryzens

[tidal geyser]

plug your monitor into the motherboard

[sharp robin]

Come on now 😞

[inner veldt]

Look at this dude kekw

[lapis condor]

Hoping that Nvidia puts out drivers that don't make your card shit itself is the first step

[inner veldt]

almost 4000 USD

[sharp robin]

I cant play monster hunter every time im on the main menu i have to blindly navigate through it

[tidal geyser]

are you on the latest nvidia drivers?

[sharp robin]

Today i was playing split fiction with my friend every time a cutscene happened my screen goes black

[tidal geyser]

this is why we buy amd, for actually good drivers

[sharp robin]

When i tab out it goes back to normal and i can see but when i click back the game goes back to black

[rapid meteor]

Which button do I press? Is bitlocker enabled by default in w11? I have no idea. Just upgraded mobo, cpu and ram. Took storage from old PC

[tidal geyser]

you should anyways do a windows reinstall

most of the time people do not have bitlocker so just press y

[rapid meteor]

Thanks.

Apparently this is the way to check it but I can't check it myself rn. Anyone here on w11 able to check if it's on by default?

[lethal bay]

Ryzen 14900K

[tidal geyser]

its not

[frail topaz]

Ryzen 4070

[tidal geyser]

only on by default with education edition or enterprise from what i know

[rapid meteor]

Alright. Appreciate you sim.

[tidal geyser]

always fun to see

i kinda wanna take a pic of every single one of these and such and i dono somehow add it to my CV XD

gonna need me a ps4 psu

[bronze jay]

Should I be scared of overdrawing on a jrgb 3 pin motherboard connector or are there protections in place

I have an msi meg x570s ace max. It's completely overkill.

[tidal geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1126496668263649300/1327256024297508905/caption.gif

[bronze jay]

I was just hoping someone already knew

[tidal geyser]

probs 3 amps on it

[bronze jay]

Yes but as a general rule do they burn out or shut off

[tidal geyser]

not really sure but it might be up to the motherboard'

[bronze jay]

That's terrifying.

[tidal geyser]

naaaaa

[bronze jay]

I don't understand how the fuck it's possible to control the entire color spectrum with just 2 pins. Must be voltages.

[tidal geyser]

wut

its digital argb

it just tells the led what color to light up

[dawn tundra]

I'm trying to use MSI afterburners OC scanner but whenever I do the scan it says results unstable reason: no load. I've tried running other programs while it's running. What do I do?

[bronze jay]

My power supply uses 2 pin rgb controls

It's jrgb but somehow even 3 pins wasn't necessary and it cuts one of them off

yet it appears to be functioning the same as my 3 pin fans. Albeit slightly less stable (gut feeling)

[tidal geyser]

welp ama head off to bed

[strong sail]

So like, if EVERY GPU is going up in price now, and old GPUs are ALSO going up,doesn't that mean that the definition of a good value GPU is gonna change

[unkempt grove]

yo guys there are these really subtle lines in my monitor, how would i fix them?

[strong sail]

Cuz the 5070 is selling at 700+ rn

[bronze jay]

I'm so fucking lucky I went with my gut in december when I had the chance and got a 4070

[wheat field]

Get a 9070xt

[bronze jay]

I ALWAYS listen to my gut

[unkempt grove]

can anyone else see these really subtle lines?

[bronze jay]

Where I went wrong was in not considering team red. I should have given them some consideration.

[wheat field]

What country?

[strong sail]

All of Europe dude

Amazon es and de

[bronze jay]

But I hear they aren't as good at raytracing, and raytracing is important to me

Spare me the debate I can see the difference and I like it

[wheat field]

Wait for the market to stabilise

That actually sucks that AMD didn't manufacture more, that was the biggest hurdle for them to jump to compete this gen.

[strong sail]

I'm not buying rn, don't have a need to with my rig

[wheat field]

I bought mine in Hong Kong for MSRP

[bronze jay]

And not to get political, but Trump's shenanigans may be a contributing factor.

[wheat field]

Then you're fine.

[strong sail]

I just feel bad for the people with 1060s that are gonna need to wait another year

[wheat field]

Obviously, he's fucked us over here

[bronze jay]

That's what I wanted to say but I don't want to piss people off

[wheat field]

And discussing world economics effect on tech is on topic

As far as I know

Just can't devolve into pure political stuff

[bronze jay]

I try not to cause problems for moderators

[wheat field]

I think most people would agree. I live in China and I'm happy I got a 9070xt when I did

Also glad I pulled a lot of my stock.

[wheat field]

Ya, fair.

Your only option is to wait until cards are actually in stock

[bronze jay]

How big of a mistake did I make by not giving AMD consideration considering I use ray tracing

I'm not going to have a fit over it, gotta learn from mistakes

[fringe prairie]

0 mistake

[bronze jay]

I bought a monitor 2 years out of date because I decided that's what I wanted 2 years ago and not realizing I could get something new that would be better for the same price as the monitor costs now

[wheat field]

Depends on what you want to do.

If you're just in it for pure gaming I'd personally say a big one but some people are huffing so much green gunk that they'll tell you to never consider AMD.

What buying an AMD card this generation does is give you comparable performance to a 5070 ti and contribute to Nvidia possibly having a competitor

[bronze jay]

So I did some panicking and some mods talked me off the edge so to speak and I decided to just keep it

ROG PG279QM for $500

[wheat field]

That's fine. Tech in general from two years ago is fine

Monitor tech doesn't move quickly enough unless you're at the highest of the high end

[bronze jay]

The lesson I learned is that I should have gotten a modern $500 monitor instead of an older one that's been reduced to that price

[wheat field]

People in general are too trigger happy about the latest and greatest

[bronze jay]

It was a hard pill to swallow, but I accepted it

[wheat field]

It doesn't usually matter outside of bleeding edge performance.

[bronze jay]

I just don't like logically knowing that I'm missing out on performance

[wheat field]

....but you're not really

[bronze jay]

This is true

[bronze jay]

Just gaming. So big mistake. But that's okay.

[wheat field]

Then ya, not considering AMD if you're looking to save some money and get competitive performance is silly tbh

[bronze jay]

Live and learn

It's not all bad. I still don't know how my hobbies will evolve. Maybe I'll be glad I went with nvidia because it's more standardized in terms of compatibility

[wheat field]

Only reason you could argue against AMD is "le stability" which judging by the reviews is less of a problem this gen or "muh ai" which is actually fair.

I work in tech and most guys I know who work in AI run Nvidia GPUs for obvious reasons

[wet ember]

i'm gonna crash out. after a full clean windows reinstall, video playback STILL freezes

this is more likely a hardware issue now

[wheat field]

Hardware problem at that point

[bronze jay]

I do not regret not waiting for 50 series

[wheat field]

Ya

[wheat field]

What card did you get dude

[bronze jay]

4070

[wheat field]

Hahahaha you're fine

[wet ember]

yeah latency mon still says my pc is suffering from high dpc latency

[wheat field]

Great card

[wet ember]

i'm gonna throw this pc away

[bronze jay]

I don't know if I'm getting the wrong conclusion but apparently 40 series is better if you aren't using their ai vomit

[wet ember]

how can it play games at smooth 100+ fps but not play a video smoothly

[bronze jay]

And that's why I'm not sorry about it

[bronze jay]

maybe it's having problems reading from the drive

[wheat field]

Possibly bad drivers

[bronze jay]

games use volatile memory for frame generation and video is reading

[azure topaz]

nvidia doesnt really have that many garbage ai features unless im out of the loop lol

[wheat field]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/s/rakwD7tX5l

[azure topaz]

dlss, frame gen, rtx voice suite, what else

thats what i can list off the top of my head

[bronze jay]

They're framing it like 200+ fps in 4k when in reality it's 50 fps plus 4 fake frames

[wheat field]

I'm specifically talking about working on AI.

[wet ember]

one suggestion is to disable turbo clock

[wheat field]

And usb selective suspend

[azure topaz]

i was talking about the other guy

[azure topaz]

i mean, but youre not forced to use it, and its not on by default, and its not going to affect your desktop experience

[bronze jay]

Idk I think you nailed it

[azure topaz]

so idk how thats going to make the card better/worse

[wheat field]

Uh I mean, no. The AI features on both sides are pretty good for what they are. It's just that working on AI pretty much requires a Nvidia GPU

[azure topaz]

yes

dlss, frame gen, rtx voice are all pretty neat software

framegen 2x is at least kind of ussable

[wheat field]

Yes.

[bronze jay]

My problem with it is that there are edge cases where raw performance is better

[wheat field]

But AMD has similar offerings, albeit not as good.

[bronze jay]

On the old gpus but correct me if I'm wrong

[azure topaz]

i mean yes, but this is going to apply with everything, always exceptions

[wet ember]

My pc was on this setting. Turbo is already off?

[azure topaz]

the old gpus cant use the newer tech

[bronze jay]

It shouldn't be greater than or equal to

[wheat field]

Check the settings in the thread I linked

[bronze jay]

To add a feature but cut back on performance people come to expect is an insult

[azure topaz]

so turn it back off

[wheat field]

It doesn't really do that. The new cards are still fundamentally more powerful.

[bronze jay]

Either you're not understanding me or I'm wrong

[azure topaz]

fsr negatively affects more cards than dlss or frame gen ever will

[bronze jay]

Okay so I'm wrong

[wet ember]

I don’t even want to fix the issue anymore

[wheat field]

Elaborate

[bronze jay]

That's a good thing. I'm not upset anymore

[wet ember]

This computer is so fkin annoying

[azure topaz]

there are more cases of the "exception" where youll see performance that is not better or its worse with fsr on on specific cards, games blah blah

[bronze jay]

Do I have access to frame generation? It would be nice to fill in every other frame

[azure topaz]

do you have 40 series?

[bronze jay]

Yes

[azure topaz]

yes you do

[bronze jay]

How do I access it?

[azure topaz]

per game im pretty sure

[bronze jay]

Ah

[azure topaz]

im not entirely sure since im not currently team green

[wheat field]

Not really a huge issue though. Most cards utilise fsr fine.

[azure topaz]

no, but its more common than the same issue on dlss, but that was my point

[wheat field]

Sure.

[azure topaz]

its not a huge issue cause it doesnt happen much

[bronze jay]

I'm not losing out then because the only frame Gen I'm interested in is alternating. I don't want more than 1 generated frame in a row

[azure topaz]

exception, not the rule

[wheat field]

I mean dude you have a 4070

[bronze jay]

that too

[wheat field]

You're overthinking this. Just play games

[azure topaz]

lol

[bronze jay]

I like to think. That's why I hate alcohol. It stops me from being able to think.

[south arrow]

In cases with low latency it's gonna be noiceee but in areas of high demand myte not be as usable. Will be fun to test

[wheat field]

I have a 7900xtx and for all the arguments I've had with green guzzlers on here I've never once sat back while playing a game and thought "oh jeez, I made a mistake"

If you're playing the games you want and you're having fun, who cares.

[south arrow]

That last part is key to it all

[wheat field]

Granted I play most games on my steam deck nowadays, but I'm a server tech and attend uni full time over here so that's more of a practicality thing

My main rig is used by the wife for Sims

[south arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-gif-9305751

[bronze jay]

I just like to consider possibilities

[south arrow]

Tc1 later that day^

[random gyro]

Is it normal for my aio pump to be at 0 rpm? The temps are very normal

[wheat field]

Ya

[south arrow]

I'd check cable is connected and under load that it turns on, but strong maybe

[wheat field]

You've missed a cable

I'm saying it's normal because the fans are working, you're just not able to see it. Send mobo

[drowsy flame]

I got the OLED, On my way home now with it

[wheat field]

If the temps are very normal under load the AIO is working

[south arrow]

Let's gooo gov let me know how you like it

[wheat field]

Either that or you've communed with the computers machine spirit and it's cooling passively via warp expulsion

[random gyro]

Yeah it's normal, don't think it has been over 60c (although I mostly play competitive games on low settings) and like 35c idle

[wheat field]

You've missed a plug to read the temps.

[random gyro]

But that's not that important is it?

[wheat field]

Um, ya it is.

I mean it's not important if you're like me and don't care until it's a problem but being able to read what your fans are doing is important, ya.

[random gyro]

I can see everything except for the pump part

[wheat field]

Side note: is that Doakes? The bay harbour butcher?