tech-chat-1

[fallow yacht]

wtf is happening

[mellow cairn]

I've already bought an MX Master and it's being delivered tomorrow from amazon

[sharp ivy]

Cool!

[mellow cairn]

and I will use it for years and not give a shit

[steel umbra]

if a company makes below average peripherals for the price how are they “good”?

[mellow cairn]

Below what average?

[fallow yacht]

i wanna try those vertical mice

[rugged sand]

no

[mellow cairn]

yeah, if it works for you, awesome.

[rugged sand]

arthritis is good tho.

[mellow cairn]

I'm still waiting. I've ordered it and moved on with my life and now I'm getting a happy ending across the street instead of continuing to give a shit

[steel umbra]

well, if you truly sum all mouses yeah not below average due to cheap models as well* what i mean is uh… i meant that as an example not for logitech, like how do you define a good mouse

[south arrow]

Bobs moving on up in the world

[frail delta]

Enjoy that one...

[south arrow]

Thats a decent lil mouse man i dig it looks comfy

[rugged sand]

I wanna do a custom water loop for my pc, but I don't wanna accadently waterlog it 💀

[mellow cairn]

oh, I was being hyperbolic, I already have many mice

[frail delta]

Very comfy

Every other mouse now sucks

[rugged sand]

Those are pretty decent tbh

[steel umbra]

enjoy i’m not saying you shouldn’t enjoy it, i had opportunity to try mx master at a local store, it is a mouse indeed

[rugged sand]

not for gaming

[empty quartz]

Topped up my reservoir after getting the bubbles out of the bottom 480mm rad, officially have roughly 1.7L of water in my pc

[frail delta]

@steel umbra You still haven't shown us any better option lol

[mellow cairn]

You STILL haven't suggested an alternative

[frail delta]

Or even a worse alternative

[rugged sand]

specs

[south arrow]

I have a glass of dirt you see

[rugged sand]

Normal people: the glass has water in it

[steel umbra]

i’m trying to find one that has decent availability for more regions… chinesium is generally not good

as you made that as a point

[mellow cairn]

... exactly.

[random gyro]

A glass of molecules

[frail delta]

Here you go!

[steel umbra]

japanesium

[mellow cairn]

and you've been looking for some time, AND you claim to be familiar with mouse markets

[south arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/oooooh-creepy-magic-oh-wow-gif-9503121

[frail delta]

The glass is Feburary 1

[sleek ibex]

We used to have these mice back during the XP days

With the ball

[steel umbra]

yes i buy mouses from various regions, where do you live?

[mellow cairn]

My point isn't that you can't POSSIBLY get a mouse that's better or cheaper, or etc etc etc. it's that ... the MX Master is reliably good. Buy one, it's good, end of story.

[frail delta]

Australia

[mellow cairn]

for the sake of argument I literally don't care where it's from, because so far you've got NOTHING

[south arrow]

Use it, abuse it, get a new one repeat

[empty quartz]

i5 13500 with a corsair xc5 pro waterblock, 32gb ddr5 6100mt/s (2x16gb), rx 6800 reference (non-xt) with a bykski waterblock, alphacool xt45 480mm radiator (bottom), xspc rx480 (56mm thick) in the top, and an ek ddc xres csq 140ml.

[south arrow]

Ace is staying icyyy

[empty quartz]

Yeah

[sleek ibex]

[mellow cairn]

Is a Corolla or Camry the best car? absolutely not. Can you go very wrong by just buying one and moving on with your life? Nope.

[left dove]

a 13500 with custom loop what

[south arrow]

Tries to sell bob my 05 corolla

[mellow cairn]

custom loops are the best!

[south arrow]

You know you dont want it

[empty quartz]

The custom loop was almost completely free

[mellow cairn]

haha, I'm buying a new EV

[empty quartz]

Minus the gpu block

[sleek ibex]

I mean I have a loop with a 9800X3D
Edit: and that has a 480 and a 360 both being 48mm thick in a Meshify 2 XL

[south arrow]

Heck yeah whatcha gettin?

If you dont mind sharing*

[mellow cairn]

BYD Sealion 7

[empty quartz]

The whole loop was $60 cad ($60 cad for the gpu block, everything else was free)

[mellow cairn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUiCuy166Vo&t=15s

[empty quartz]

@left dove

[left dove]

eh, fair

[south arrow]

Brb while i give a watch looks sleakk

[mellow cairn]

Because I need to go 4.3 0-100 in my 2+ tonne SUV

[sleek ibex]

Though then again, it wouldn't be a BassBone build without custom Watercooling

[frail delta]

How else are you going to drive to the supermarket?

[hallow fog]

hello guys this is dumb question but pls help me im trying to install my old nvme 850x that has a heatsinc on on my asus rog x870 but the slot on top have thermal pads on both ends ( thr modo heatsync and the mobo nvme slot it has one too is it ok to install my nvme with heatsyinc on the thermal pad ? )

[mellow cairn]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008381131770.html

protip: I have one of these. It's not as good as the MX Master. It's good enough for the price, but I wouldn't buy it again for myself.

[steel umbra]

hmmm refuses to load

[mellow cairn]

works for me

[steel umbra]

oh rapoo

yes mx master is better than rapoo

[mellow cairn]

I mean, you completely failed to provide any alternatives whatsoever

so you lose by default, which is impressive

[mellow cairn]

it'd fucking want to be at around double the price, obviously

[steel umbra]

yes, two scroll wheels uncommon, i can’t find that post in geekboy server so you win

[sharp ivy]

Prince aliiiiiiiiiiiii

[frail delta]

How else am I going to look at my Excel!!!!! :(

[mellow cairn]

I don't actually use the second scroll wheel much at all, but I do love the adjustable scrollwheel

[steel umbra]

keychron m6 but arguable if that’s better or worse than mx master you asked for a better alternative

so i did not include it

[mellow cairn]

it's the same price, give or take.

I mean, I'm sure it's fine, but your contention was "omg why do people buy logitech, they are shit for the money"

but you literally couldn't find a better or cheaper equivalent product

[steel umbra]

well, better in what, it’s hard to find a mouse that’s shaped exactly like mx master, has two scroll wheels, what i know what’s the weakness of the mx master is the sensor and the implementation

if were talking about technicalities the m6 is better, but agaiń not the same shape

[mellow cairn]

yes, but it's about fitness for purpose.

[steel umbra]

one group may find the m6 more comfortable, one group the mx master. so it’s definitively not better versus

[mellow cairn]

The MX Master is not a 'good' gaming mouse.

nobody is saying it is

[steel umbra]

it does not feel very good even when just moving cursor around screen

[mellow cairn]

.......

[steel umbra]

it is subjective…

[mellow cairn]

Literally the entire rest of the world disagrees

[sharp ivy]

You guys are still arguing

impressive

[mellow cairn]

first day on the internet?

[sharp ivy]

Nope

[chilly sage]

i just came back too

had a whole meal

[lapis condor]

I love my Mx master

Comfy to hold, feels like I could probably do some serious damage to someone with how much it weighs

[steel umbra]

uh, that’s what I didn’t like about it has like 125hz or 250hz polling rate which felt a bit choppy when moving your cursor around, yes you may not notice that which is fine, it’s not a gamer mouse that’s why i didn’t say the m6 is better

[mellow cairn]

show me ANY source that backs this up.

[steel umbra]

i’m literally arguing in your favor why i did not include the keychron m6

[chilly sage]

what generation was the titan x?

[sharp ivy]

Wasting over an hour yelling at someone on the internet isn't what I usually do

[sharp ivy]

Gpu?

[chilly sage]

yes

[sharp ivy]

GM200

[chilly sage]

i like make extreme hard modded gpu's i was think about using it for a vr setup

[steel umbra]

it’s 125hz polling rate

you can notice that

[azure topaz]

gtx 900 series

[chilly sage]

i dont like doing liquid cooling so i just make gpus that look hvac af

[random gyro]

i am not tripping this is real

[mellow cairn]

I mean, it's fine for you to not like 125hz. But it's not an objective problem with a productivity mouse.

[random gyro]

brainly is crazy

[mellow cairn]

Standard LLM garbage

[steel umbra]

i literally just said that

[steel umbra]

.

[random gyro]

nah if you ask any decent llm it would say a proper answe

[mellow cairn]

Would it? LLMs produce garbage and you have no way of knowing unless you already know, at which point - why use the LLM

[random gyro]

agreed

stop using ai fr.

use humans.

give them money instead of spending it on developing something to replace their job

[steel umbra]

@mellow cairn what about weight for productivity what do you think about that

[random gyro]

for example i work as a part time call center worker at vodafone and alot of colleagues are worried about ai taking their jobs and vodafone being the shitty company that it is laid off alot of people in my office because they created a new ai system that would decrease human call traffic because the ai was suppose to help people with basic issues. what ended up happening is we got understaffed for a week.

no matter how hard you make it for people to get to a call center representitive they will always find a way

[frail delta]

It barely matters

[mellow cairn]

I .. don't, really?

[steel umbra]

it can be fatiguing for some people

[frail delta]

AI isn't taking call center jobs, your employer is just using it as an excuse to reduce hours :)

[frail delta]

As long as it's not a literal brick, it doesn't matter

[random gyro]

if this was in another country with a lower unemployement rate they would get fucked

[random gyro]

im irreplaceable as im the only one who speaks spanish

[frail delta]

You are very replaceable :)

[silk halo]

Is a 4090 for 1250 good or no? USD

[random gyro]

not easy to find spanish language speakers in my area of my country.

[mellow cairn]

Everyone is replaceable. Even if you leaving will cripple the business, it won't stop them firing you.

[steel umbra]

i mean, 140g+ is a decent heft for a mouse

[random gyro]

yep

[frail delta]

No, it literally isn't

[mellow cairn]

it's heavy compared to other mice

and yet, it's gone through a LOT of versions, and clearly it's not stopping people buying it.....

[random gyro]

almost got fired because they wanted me to work overtime unpaid IN PERSON.

[steel umbra]

m6 is in comparison 78g* but that’s a slightly diff shape

[mellow cairn]

Your average person won't care at all

Honestly I doubt most people would literally tell the difference between an MX Master and an M6 if you swapped them out

[steel umbra]

the shape

[frail delta]

Lots wouldn't notice

[mellow cairn]

side by side, sure, but you really overestimate how much people give a shit

[steel umbra]

as i said the shape is different, i was trying to look for a different alternative to the mx master which the m6 isn’t due to a different shape not too similar to master

[mellow cairn]

it's not that different.

[steel umbra]

i’m trying to find the post

[steel umbra]

by my standards it is

[random gyro]

i understand making workers work in person because i was trying to call my roadside assistance provider to complain about an experience and the customer support agent was in a starbucks 💀

[frail delta]

https://uspto.report/patent/grant/D882,575

[mellow cairn]

Your standards are not how the real world works

[frail delta]

It's patented

[random gyro]

but FREE overtime in person.

come the fuck on.

[random gyro]

i could legit hear people ordering in the background

[raw cedar]

Can anyone help me with my laptop?

[mellow cairn]

... you realise there are other people in the background of a call center

[distant frigate]

https://youtu.be/P_fHJIYENdI?si=v6tnivhHQzscg_-x

[frail delta]

They just need better headsets

[distant frigate]

AI helping to solve the protein folding problem

[random gyro]

there are obviously but their is usually if not always sound dampening between each person atleast here

[frail delta]

They need Yealink Acoustic Shield :p

[mellow cairn]

and so I guess the two alternatives are working in starbucks and working in person

[random gyro]

eh i hate working in person but it pays way more than at home jobs here.

[mellow cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/cone-of-silence-talking-meeting-gif-15853677

[frail delta]

Someone needs to ban PPPoE

It's 2025... Come on!

[random gyro]

employees not allowed to take sound equipment home

fireable offence

[frail delta]

They are having employees WFH, but they aren't allowed to use the company equipment?

[random gyro]

we do use similar headphones

[random gyro]

egypt.

people who do wfh get paid half.

[mellow cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-half-heath-ledger-gif-14520524

[random gyro]

and usually get few[er] hours

[steel umbra]

the curves are different vs the mx master, yes the shape is pattented, even mildly right handed ergo mouses are similar to ambix, which are similar to ambix mouses with buttons on both sides or right

[random gyro]

cant complain cant do shit

your just happy to find a job.

[steel umbra]

it is by your standard similar, look at eloshapes and such the feet does not reach that far as on the logi and the m6 is more curvey

it’s the reason why i did not mention it in the first place

[random gyro]

customer support workers here earn between 150-300usd per month for english
spanish 200-450usd
french/german 200/500usd
arabic earn 100/150usd
so company equipment usually costs more than employees salaries

[peak knot]

i think i got the good from this run

[random gyro]

😭

[empty quartz]

This fucker made my pc unable to post

[random gyro]

tis why i hate hdds

[empty quartz]

[cosmic stratus]

they cant even run games smoothly

useless

[mellow cairn]

I mean, even if it worked it's garbage

[random gyro]

ehh i have an hdd that runs alot of games smoothly

linus recommended it to me.

[cosmic stratus]

how fast is it

[random gyro]

thanks linus for recommending refurbished high capacity hdds

[cosmic stratus]

for me menus and assets take fucking for ever to load

[random gyro]

had it for a few months so far no regrets

[random gyro]

7200rpm

[cosmic stratus]

you must have a pretty fast HDD Then

[cosmic stratus]

I mean storage speeds

mb/s reads and writes

[random gyro]

170/440

[empty quartz]

Is this under actual use?

[random gyro]

nah more like 140/310

[plain cypress]

What mental illness leads to cutting a sandwich like this

[random gyro]

170/440 is the advertised tho

[random gyro]

sharing

[empty quartz]

Mine peaks at like 300-400 read, 160-200 write

[random gyro]

mine is refurbished

got it for a 75 percent discount

50 bucks for 16tbs not bad

[cosmic stratus]

ok mine is 118/100

[random gyro]

i had it in raid 1 and one drive failed and i am getting a new one soon under 60 day warranty

[cosmic stratus]

what kind of speeds do I need for smooth game loading and menus not taking actual seconds to load up lmaoo

[steel umbra]

i wonder why are the mx masters locked at 125hz, is logitech separating their gaming mice from work mices?

[random gyro]

best part is the seller has like a renewable warranty

[cosmic stratus]

thats about as fast as emmc storage

so decent, guess ill pick up a large drive for my self then

[random gyro]

thats any decent modern hdd

[random gyro]

i would recommend refurb raid 1

unless the price difference is between new and used is less than 50 percent

[cosmic stratus]

I have one slot of space

[random gyro]

also dont buy drives made before 2021

[cosmic stratus]

ill go pick up a 4TB

[random gyro]

pick up new then

[cosmic stratus]

👍

[sand epoch]

didn't know amazon was chil like this

it's been 6 months

i don't even have the orignal packaging or serial number

and i got a replacement 😭

[cosmic stratus]

W

[steel umbra]

@mellow cairn anyways sorry for arguing with you yes the mx master fits for availability the specific shape and two scroll wheels, there is nothing better than it unless you want to invest time, the mouse still can be improved though, which logitech does not want to do… they want to seperate their work mices from gaming that’s why the 125hz polling rate

yes it is atleast good enough for the use case

pretty sure implementing atleast 250hz costs next to nothing

[rose stream]

Well that's a neat thing to see.
https://youtu.be/yileWog3zbE

Basically, there are now students in academia who have now have been able to make stacked chips for projects.

[gleaming rose]

they still havent shipped my coolscan, and the guy hasnt responded to my questions

:(

[mellow cairn]

oh, absolutely, 100% That's a problem - If there was a better sensor/poll rate in it, it would be a great all rounder.

Really the issue is that logitech know exactly how to toe the line between capitalism and being shit. Which is interesting when you compare them to say - Razor. Who do not 😄

[peak knot]

@lapis condor my buddy sent me a video on my 770 mars but discord corrupted the video…. I’ve been waiting all day for him to send it again…. 14 hour time zone difference sucks

[mellow cairn]

I'm pretty sure implementing far better than that even would cost next to nothing 🙂

[steel umbra]

yeah, battery life it would cost once you get to the bigger numbers, but that can be solved with lighter shell and a bigger battery

[outer gorge]

What should I go with? RX 7800XT or RTX 4070, I have a R7 5800x3D as my CPU

[junior valve]

samething

[sharp ivy]

Yaaay you were finally reconciled

[sharp ivy]

2080ti

[limber nacelle]

this is awful

who decides yeah let's cut it length wise

[plain cypress]

Idk but I already planted a galaxy note7 at the order counter

[steel umbra]

Yeah, ig i was taking the mx master too harshly, biased agaisnt

[sharp ivy]

Eh

He was being pretty unkind

[junior valve]

it looks appetizing for me

[vale reef]

it's a fucking emergency, i just spent my hard earned dosh on some computer parts and i forgot it was pancake day today

[viral osprey]

W pc?

[jagged yarrow]

Which is the better fan for a radiator? Silent Wings 3 PWM vs lian li p28

[frail delta]

Happy pancake day! 🎉

[limber nacelle]

????

[limber nacelle]

W pc

[viral osprey]

It’s not what it seems….

[limber nacelle]

case itself is based af

[viral osprey]

I tried lol

Only one I had access too

[sleek ibex]

I remember Gateway

[viral osprey]

BACK IN MY DAY

[steel umbra]

Gaming only? No rt?

What resolution

[frail delta]

Mooo

[viral osprey]

The specs for the sleeper are twin rx 580s 20 gigs of ddr3 (I’m broke) and I don’t remember the cpu

[sleek ibex]

Yep memeber when they went by Gateway 2000?

[sharp ivy]

W

[viral osprey]

Thx

I think it has like a i7 4770

I’m broke af

[sharp ivy]

That's a really good cpu

[viral osprey]

Yeah but I’m prob getting a giant bottleneck

From the two rx 580s

[viral osprey]

You think there’s a bottle neck between them?

[sharp ivy]

!!!!

Both are really evenly

matched. Do you need 2?

[viral osprey]

I want two

[sharp ivy]

Ok

[viral osprey]

And my psu can handle it so

[sharp ivy]

It is adequate

[viral osprey]

Yes

I’m also building a pc for my home theater

I forgor what cpu

[pale vigil]

I want to build a NAS

[peak knot]

My retro pc is in an old gateway tower

[viral osprey]

But it’s got a gtx 980

[viral osprey]

Hello again

Remember me?

[pale vigil]

Wish the n100 chip and mobo combo were commonly available with 4 data slots.

[peak knot]

[viral osprey]

You seen the final build?

I don’t got inside pics yet

[peak knot]

Not really, gotta remember I’m in a ton of servers and admin 4-5 large servers (10k+ members each) I talk to a lot of people

[viral osprey]

I was the one gutting the gateway pc and making a sleeper

[peak knot]

Ah yeah you asked about a couple different towers to mod

[viral osprey]

I think

[junior kiln]

I love when you are in chat because I always learn something from ya

[viral osprey]

Here it is @peak knot

I can’t open it rn cause in bed

[peak knot]

Yeah mine uses the similar case but is the essentials named case

[sleek ibex]

My Aureal Vortex 2 is on its way

[peak knot]

The IEMs?

[viral osprey]

oh and I got the case from my grandmother’s work

[peak knot]

lol nice

[viral osprey]

But holy shit her work is loaded with old computers

[peak knot]

I’ve been having fun lately playing balatro on the vita… someone figured out how to port the steam version

[viral osprey]

I scored an optiplex, a server and a vista laptop

[peak knot]

Just did this today… it’s an addicting little card game

[viral osprey]

Oh and an android tablet

[mellow cairn]

balatro is awesome

[peak knot]

Can’t complain with that if they work

[sleek ibex]

We used to have a case that was from that era that was Gateway too. Don't remember if it had a Celeron or what...... But it was definitely from that era

[viral osprey]

Right

[viral osprey]

Mine HAD a pentium 2

[peak knot]

I swapped mine to a p3

[viral osprey]

My drive failed so I just said screw it

[junior kiln]

I never understood poker and always hated those types of games. Balatro changed me completely

[sleek ibex]

Nice. Though the Gateway we had is long gone now so I guess I'll never know for sure

[viral osprey]

And @peak knot literally told me it was dead

[sleek ibex]

Though I would love to someday build our old 1994 build that had a 486DX2-66 VLB

[viral osprey]

But it was also sitting in the elements since 2003

[sleek ibex]

Though AT cases are....... Ehhhhhhh let's say for how much they cost you can easily get a high end modern case

Though I thought the Turbo LED display was the coolest thing ever (still do)

[vivid pelican]

Yooo

Wazzzup

Just joined after leaving a while back

[brave plover]

Okay I must ask, so I am frustrated with choosing a mouse cause they are absurdly expensive in Canada and specs of all of them is effectively the same. And since technically the best mice just come down to preference I am getting really annoyed. So ill ask one technical question that might actually be relevant. So back in the day I had a g903, it was heavy as a mf but it was good for me until it started double clicking like a bitch, and im afraid any mouse with mechanical switches I get will have those same problems after a few years. Will trying to get an optical switch mouse actually help or will it have the same problems?

[mellow cairn]

how many years is "a few"

[sinful cobalt]

if u fine with going 45g area u shld try lamzu maya

[random gyro]

hi there im having issues with my 2tb m.2 ssd anyone able to help

[clear canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-laugh-funny-gif-10819491

[grave obsidian]

hi guys i want build new budget pc. what do you think AM5 R5 7600?

[random gyro]

windows is reconizing it , but no programs will launch and i cannot delete files

[grave obsidian]

is Gigabyte B650M Gaming Plus WIFI AM5 DDR5 good mobo?

[brave plover]

I was hoping to get 3 years out of them at the very least

[mellow cairn]

That seems reasonable - but some people say a "few" and they mean 7+

[brave plover]

Lamzu is just flat out not available in canada rn without custom costs

[brave plover]

My g903 started double clicking in 2

[sinful cobalt]

well rip

[mellow cairn]

I would return that - in australia that would be a breach of consumer warranty

[brave plover]

I am left with Pulsar (which I am disliking the company cause of them basically releasing new products that are the same or worse than the last in some ways), Razor which is absurdly expensive and have lost a taste for the shape as I feel its to flat now and Logitech which again I lost trust in their switches.

[brave plover]

I should have, I think its to late now sadly

[sinful cobalt]

those 3 companies are falling off hard

[mellow cairn]

I mean that it doesn't matter what they SAY the warranty is, it needs to survive a reaosnable amount of time

[brave plover]

Agreed

And especially since it was like 230 at the time

[brave plover]

They really did. Im hoping to get the Asus harpe if it goes on sale or the Viper pro 2 cause its like 100$ cad

[sinful cobalt]

personally i dont trust asus

[brave plover]

(1 Cad = 0.70 USD)

[brave plover]

Valid.

I don’t like their keyboards or headphones at all

I am getting an A75 drunkdeer (or at least what im looking at) cause 145 for hall effect, hotswap (with limited choices but still) and not awful quality. Sounds better than gaming brand and is technically better than mechanical in terms if response times. Ik there is mechanical keyboards that probably feel better but I don’t trust ali express and I like the idea of he.

If there are other recommends feel free to send them

[brave plover]

Any other brands? Xtrfy I think is sometimes available

[sinful cobalt]

nvr heard of it

i use wlmouse'

[brave plover]

Any opinions on this brand? It comes to 88$, I like the aesthetic and it seems liked? A bit heavy for me but 50-70$ cheaper than everything else? Might be worth it?

[sinful cobalt]

idk anything abt xtrfy

[brave plover]

I meant to send the link https://www.amazon.ca/GravaStar-M2-Lightweight-Hollowed-Out-Programmable/dp/B0CSP61VR4/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=U59R24GGGP5Y&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.aSGdum6Kbk404om5xvl_OUSr4g4vtXbNYhe5DuPq0jk9oLL2ZsLuC2_OnKF8iBuTjttTtRbF2iBk_PSjkpssALVNmHEE1YM-I4JbwtT_k9cVkeHWqNV5OyTD4p49BNwsiCIs8t34O_vahy2uwK8Kiftvqvx1Fc2hLbWWTDZdaqUJJVlTwSSYAEyQndxtdSnbMOg8-EnxFUJh90vEzfmOPA.woDCN-dXZvnCxajRU3hnUmO1Or-f0hAa6_FLF1gAwXs&dib_tag=se&keywords=wl+mouse&qid=1741063158&sprefix=wl+mouse%2Caps%2C223&sr=8-3

[tough ledge]

Hello people just wondering, every time i have some built up static energy in my hand and i touch my keyboard or mouse, my second monitor will blink on and off. Any reasons as to why

[jaunty apex]

for those who powered on their xbox and got sonic unleashed dlc, can you still download it on the 360

[grave obsidian]

i want to buy mobo and cpu right now guys i want to ask good deal or not
ryzen 5 7600 OEM new - 145$
Gigabyte B650M Gaming Plus WIFI AM5 DDR5 new - 120$

[devout pine]

I would love to setup debian linux but I am so lost trying to setup the drives
I wanna have raid 1 on my 4tb storage with my 256 nvme being the boot device

Can somebody guide me?

[neon locust]

My specs are (4070 super, i5-12600k and 32gb of ddr4 ram) and there both at 40c) chat gpt is telling me that’s low does anyone know a fix

[heady saffron]

can anyone tell me how to fix and how annoying it is to fix when you get ram thats too tall for your cpu fan? the fan im looking at is the phantom spirit 120 SE argb

[random junco]

low is good

you want it to be low as possible

[neon locust]

There telling me it’s unusually low and I’m getting fps drops on rocket league capped at 240 and in fortnite I’m getting 120fps in game that shouldn’t be right

@random junco

[junior kiln]

ChatGPT is? Dont listen to it lol

[random junco]

fr ai is still shit when giving advice

"ai is gonna take over our jobs" lmao not in our lifetime

[junior kiln]

As Luke says, "AI will always be very confidentally wrong"

[neon locust]

Should I be getting those fps numbers tho?

[junior kiln]

That depends on the games and your settings more or less.

[neon locust]

All low

1080p preformance settings

No special effects

[junior kiln]

Does your harddrive/ssd got plenty of space? are the drives that the games running on any good in speed?

[broken saffron]

what is low

the temps?

[neon locust]

Utilization and tems

[broken saffron]

i would be happy if my temps were low

[junior kiln]

Temps being low is okay. It sounds like your problem comes down to something unrelated to the hardware tbh

At least the hardware you mentioned

[broken saffron]

how much cpu and gpu are being utilized @neon locust

[neon locust]

But how does that explain my fps drops I mean I think my specs are okay especially running a game like rl my fps drops are crazy

[neon locust]

CPU 17% and gpu 1 to 2%

[broken saffron]

while gaming?

[neon locust]

Yea

[junior kiln]

Is your drives full? lol

[neon locust]

No

Just reset pc

[broken saffron]

cehck nividia control panel and set to high performance nvidia processor

[neon locust]

Already did

My whole nvidia control panel is optimized for gaming

Did allot of research on that and it didn’t help

[broken saffron]

did you cehck in windows settings

[neon locust]

No ?

[broken saffron]

graphics settings

[neon locust]

Like set to high performance

[random junco]

whats ur fortnite graphics at

[broken saffron]

yeah

[neon locust]

Yea I did that @broken saffron

[neon locust]

Low everything no special effects 1080p

[random junco]

and u cant even get 120? 😭

[junior kiln]

Have you done a Crystal Diskmark check on your drives to check the speeds are running okay?

[neon locust]

Yup

Said good

[neon locust]

Ik man

[junior kiln]

Hmm interesting for sure

[random junco]

are you sure? i dont think you know what that is

[neon locust]

Yes

[random junco]

ok

[broken saffron]

man ts not even bottleneck

[junior kiln]

What were they

[random junco]

real

[neon locust]

Don’t remember chat got told me they were good lmao😭😭

[random junco]

oh my god

[neon locust]

Lmao

[junior kiln]

Please dont take tech advice from ChatGPT

[neon locust]

I didn’t know lmao

But I’m so confused

Like idk what to do

[broken saffron]

sometimes its acc good

[random junco]

graphics drivers?

[neon locust]

Just reset pc made sure to reinstall

[junior kiln]

And its often confidentally wrong, its just..bad practice imo lol

[solid crown]

look up your specs on youtube + game and compare fps

theres no way your gpu is at 1% running 120 fps though

[neon locust]

Not in fortnite

In rocket league

It hits like 30 to 40

[solid crown]

which gets even more fps

[neon locust]

Rocket league

[solid crown]

still if it was actually 1% util it would be like 3 fps

what monitoring software are you using

[neon locust]

Its cpu bound game

[broken saffron]

do you have the little nvidia icon to show gpu being used

[solid crown]

not even the 4090 would run 1% usage in that game bro

[neon locust]

No

[broken saffron]

add it and see

[random junco]

do you have custom fan curvatures

[broken saffron]

"Display GPU Activity Icon in Notification Area"

[neon locust]

Don’t know what that is

[random junco]

did u adjust the speeds of your fans

[neon locust]

Oh yea

In msi afterburner

[random junco]

to what

[broken saffron]

@neon locust do this in nvidia control panel then run the game

[neon locust]

I think that’s the name

[broken saffron]

he's asking what did you change it to

[neon locust]

I’ll check after I do the Nvidia thing

[broken saffron]

alr

[neon locust]

So where exactly do I go

[broken saffron]

holdup

theres a desktop tab in the toolbar

[neon locust]

Yea

I’m there

[broken saffron]

@neon locust go to it then select the option i told you. then run a game and check on the taskbar and click the icon

[bleak ledge]

First hard drive I've seen leave the warning state

[broken saffron]

you should get this

[bleak ledge]

I guess it reallocated the bad sectors

[neon locust]

This all I have

In here

[solid crown]

but it says 0 reallocated sectors

[broken saffron]

buddy did you click on the option

[neon locust]

Idk where it is

[solid crown]

use ddu and uninstall your integrated graphics

[broken saffron]

bro control panel

not nvidia app

[neon locust]

Okay where do I go now

[broken saffron]

@neon locust

go to desktop bruh

[neon locust]

Wym ???

[bleak ledge]

It had 8 for 2 years

[broken saffron]

BRO

[solid crown]

why dont we just skip a step and tell him to disable the integrated graphics

[broken saffron]

look at the toolbar

[bleak ledge]

8 pending ones

[solid crown]

weird

good things come to those who wait ahh

[neon locust]

There isn’t nvidia control panel in my toolbar

[bleak ledge]

it is a prototype hard drive, so maybe it has fucky firmware on it

[broken saffron]

BRO IM DONE

[neon locust]

Bro I’m just trying to get help

[solid crown]

uninstall your integrated graphics

thats literally what manny is gonna do anyway

so lets skip this step

[neon locust]

How do I do that

[broken saffron]

we dont even know if the gpu is being used or not

[neon locust]

Is that in bios because I already disabled it

[solid crown]

easiest way to check if it fixes it is using DDU and uninstalling the driver, then you can go into bios and disable

oh you already disabled it

[neon locust]

Yea

[broken saffron]

@neon locust

[solid crown]

then yeah idk game is buggy

cause if its not using the dedicated gpu or integrated gpu, theres nothing else for it to run on

[broken saffron]

click on the button that says desktop ffs

bro holdup

[solid crown]

top left next to file and edit

[neon locust]

This is while I’m running to

[broken saffron]

buddy first do what i told you

[neon locust]

Okay I did it

[broken saffron]

ok now launch a game

[broken saffron]

do you see the icon in taskbar

[neon locust]

I’m launching holdup

[broken saffron]

okay but do you see the icon

[neon locust]

Wyn where do i see it at?

[broken saffron]

.

[neon locust]

Oh yea

I do

[broken saffron]

ok then launch your game then click on that icon once its running

[drowsy flame]

3080Ti PC on marketplace listed for $1500 OBO. Messaged them to let them know that unfortunately it’s probably not worth anything close to that and they’ll have better luck selling it if they go down to $1,000. Am I right or is a 3080Ti pc still worth $1500?

[broken saffron]

whats the full specs

[solid crown]

based on specs it could be but doesnt look like good specs

anyway never try to talk down high pricing

they are delusional and will never drop it

[broken saffron]

they do many times

[solid crown]

never happened to me

[broken saffron]

bad luck ig

[solid crown]

you think im talking down someone whos listing a 3060 pc for 2K? no lol

[plush wren]

even heavier now 🔥

[solid crown]

or theyll drop it to 1500

[broken saffron]

sometimes they know the actual worth and try to scam people who dont know anything

[solid crown]

dealing with people like that gives me a headache ngl

[broken saffron]

fr

[neon locust]

It disappeared

[junior kiln]

And the individuals that will outright lie about their use of the hardware they sell

e.g. crypto miners

[broken saffron]

check here

[neon locust]

I did

[broken saffron]

re enable in the app

[drowsy flame]

X570 Asus tuf, 32GB of what looks like Gskill DDR4, some sort of M.2 no model or capacity specified, and a ryzen 7, guessing a 5800x

[solid crown]

"never used bought it 6 months ago and upgraded to 5090 selling my rx580 for $300"

[drowsy flame]

Definitely not worth $1500 on this planet

[broken saffron]

lol thats a whole new league

[solid crown]

no am5 for that price is crazy

[neon locust]

Manny still not there @broken saffron

[azure topaz]

potnetial for it to be a 3700x makes the entire computer pretty rough man

[limpid dune]

bro what did I DELETE

[azure topaz]

defined phases

[junior kiln]

CIA deleting documents when that FOIA request hits their inbox

[fickle ivy]

My cpu idles at 20c

[broken saffron]

you lliterally clicked on it my guy

[rugged sand]

"DEFINED_PHASES"

[broken saffron]

click on this

bro i give up honestly

[neon locust]

Okay I did

@broken saffron

[fickle ivy]

Using an old hdd as ym boot drive

[limpid dune]

I don't know if you've noticed but it's not November anymore; go to time and date and configure your clock to auto-sync. having the clock set incorrectly makes it hard for computers to agree on security protocols

[fickle ivy]

Yeah I'm doing jt rn

Wait, windows hasn't prompted me to activate jt yet

1hz?

[azure topaz]

no drivers

[fickle ivy]

Oh yeah

[drowsy flame]

Yeah, 5800 is like best case scenario, could be absolute crap

[fickle ivy]

I don't even know where to start getting drivers

[broken saffron]

bro take screenshots 😭

[grave obsidian]

guys ryzen 5 7600 how hot is?

[fickle ivy]

I'm still getting the internet set up on it

alright, second message sent from my new gaming pc

[grave obsidian]

guys what the best budget m2 ssd?

[zinc widget]

Boot drive or secondary game drive?

[azure topaz]

cras c910

[grave obsidian]

can you recommend cpu cooler for 7600?

budget

[south arrow]

The 9100 gonna be sickk

[solid crown]

the stock cooler

[azure topaz]

peerless assassin

[grave obsidian]

sorry it dosent exict in my counrty

[grave obsidian]

aslo i cant get

[grave obsidian]

which one

[solid crown]

comes with the cpu

[azure topaz]

what are your options

[grave obsidian]

deepcool, id cooling

[azure topaz]

id cooling a410

[solid crown]

or the A620 pro se

[grave obsidian]

25$ on dollar

[broken saffron]

@grave obsidian you can try using the stock cooler should be fine

[azure topaz]

works

[grave obsidian]

im getting oem cpu bro

[zinc widget]

This is an insane deal rn

https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/solid-state-drives/990-pro-w-heatsink-pcie-4-0-nvme-ssd-1tb-mz-v9p1t0gw/

this is the cheapest not from a weird seller

https://www.newegg.com/msi-1tb-spatium-series-nvme-1-4/p/N82E16820140047

[azure topaz]

the 7600 can go quite a bit above 65w anyways even in games, probably not a great move

[broken saffron]

hmm he can try using it if doesnt work then just get one

[azure topaz]

tray cpu anyways

[zinc widget]

(I only selected 1tb 4.0 drives with a dram cache)

[azure topaz]

no cooler inc

[grave obsidian]

rgb version also looks good

[azure topaz]

🫡

[broken saffron]

oh

[grave obsidian]

but 8$ more

[azure topaz]

someone else will pick an ssd for you

[azure topaz]

worth to me, looks neat

[jovial geyser]

what's a power supply i could pair with this?

[azure topaz]

a850gl? idk is that cheap rn

[jovial geyser]

i'll take a look

[grave obsidian]

i dunno ordering from thes sites bro. but ill check the price on market in my city

[jovial geyser]

yeah $200

[broken saffron]

these sites?????

[zinc widget]

If ur country gets the 990 pro discounts I’d consider looking into those

[grave obsidian]

samsung, newegg

[zinc widget]

It’s Samsung.com and Newegg. Those are good

[broken saffron]

whats wrong with samsung and newegg

[grave obsidian]

they dont shipping to my counrty bruh

[jovial geyser]

iirc 990 pro is about $50 more

[broken saffron]

what country

[jovial geyser]

i didn't choose sk for the price difference, i kinda just chose it

[grave obsidian]

uzbekistan

[solid crown]

$100 for 1TB is outrageous pricing ngl

[zinc widget]

Oh. It’s hard to find what’s cheap. Tell me what’s available and I’ll tell you if it’s good or shit

[azure topaz]

i paid 34 dollars for my spatinum m450 1tb

[fickle ivy]

I put my other ram stick in and now I'm not getting a display put

[zinc widget]

They’re on sale at least in U.S. on Samsung’s website

[grave obsidian]

should i get 1tb or 512 gb its enough just my budget getting tight

[azure topaz]

not an incredible drive but 34 dollars brnad new cant complain

[solid crown]

1tb for sure

[grave obsidian]

yeah good idea

[solid crown]

cant fit shit on 512gb

[jovial geyser]

i'll check in a moment

[zinc widget]

Its a dram cache TLC 4.0 drive $100 is fine

[jovial geyser]

i was thinking maybe a 1,000 corsair psu

[broken saffron]

wait till you look at macbook

[jovial geyser]

even if 1,000 isn't necessary, will be there for future upgrades

[azure topaz]

850w is a lot of headroom for upgrades yo

[solid crown]

I live near a microcenter and they sell TLC dram ssds for $75/1tb

[grave obsidian]

this 125$ in my county😭

[jovial geyser]

ya i have an 850 rn

asus tuf 850g

[solid crown]

still not cheap though, personally would go with a 2tb for $100 lol

[zinc widget]

Do an 850W. Get a Be Quiet Pure Power 12 M it comes with a 12-pin.

[azure topaz]

you could get like a 4090 and be fine

[jovial geyser]

oh really

i thought 4090 would really be pushing it with 850w

[azure topaz]

naw

[zinc widget]

I mean… that’s what they normally cost here

[zinc widget]

U have a 4070 ti

[solid crown]

technically its supported except with the 600w bios

[azure topaz]

a 5090 would be pushing it but i bet you it would still work totally fine

[grave obsidian]

just in sale?

[jovial geyser]

oh yeah that brand exists

it popped up in my mind for a moment, but then i forgot

[jovial geyser]

not rn, but that's what i'm getting ya

[zinc widget]

Be Quiet PSUs are elite.

[grave obsidian]

shit or good?

[jovial geyser]

oh they're very affordable

[solid crown]

wait youre getting the 4070 ti 12gb?

[jovial geyser]

4070 ti super

16gb

[solid crown]

ok good

[zinc widget]

I would consider waiting for Rx 9070 launch. Not nessesarily because you are gonna buy it but because Nvidia will probably drop prices.

[azure topaz]

good

tlc, 1tb 👍

[jovial geyser]

oh yeah i'm sure i won't be able to get it before then anyway

40 series is probably dropping slowly atm

[solid crown]

has nvidia ever dropped prices outside of a super refresh?

[zinc widget]

lol that was my third option after the two I sent you

[azure topaz]

lol

[zinc widget]

Yes. When AMD launches to fuck up their launch.

[solid crown]

when has that ever happened

[jovial geyser]

did the 3080 drop in price after 50 series launch?

[zinc widget]

The last one

[jovial geyser]

it was about $1,050 last time i checked, and i thought i remembered it being higher than that

[zinc widget]

No because the 50 series sucked. Iirc they dropped for 6000 and 7000 tho

[grave obsidian]

haha. price is 88$ good deal?

[solid crown]

oh but not officially

[zinc widget]

If that’s roughly USD yes

[jovial geyser]

oh i see

[grave obsidian]

yes on dollar

[fickle ivy]

Aio on a 75w cpu cuz we ball

[jovial geyser]

good thing i wasn't convinced 50 series are 100% worth getting

i probably would've wishlisted or even bought by now

[solid crown]

at msrp its still not bad

[zinc widget]

IMO I’d get it over a 40 series if they cost roughly the same

I’ll take a discounted 4080 over a 5070

[grave obsidian]

r5 7600
id coling a410
giga b650m gaming plus
gskill trendz neo 6000mhz cl30
aurus gen4 1gb m2
right now my build

[zinc widget]

But I ain’t paying MSRP for a 40 series over a 50 series

[jovial geyser]

i haven't been able to find stock for an asus tuf 4080 anywhere, so idk what price i'd be buying it at if i do

once i can see the price difference between the 70 ti super and the 80, i'll decide

but right now i'm stuck on the 70

[zinc widget]

How much you paying for 4070 ti?

[solid crown]

itll have to be used they stopped production

[jovial geyser]

$1,400/$1,500 i think

[zinc widget]

What currency is that?

[jovial geyser]

NZD

[broken saffron]

lmao

[solid crown]

oh ok

[junior kiln]

$840usd

[solid crown]

still bad but not as bad

[zinc widget]

Get a 5070 ti for that price

[fickle ivy]

Does signal rgb work with thermalright fans?

[jovial geyser]

those are $2,300 lol

[solid crown]

just wait

pricing is atrocious across the board but should get better (hopefully)

[zinc widget]

lol 1200 usd for a 5070 ti is insane

[fickle ivy]

Wrong reply?

[jovial geyser]

yeah, i'll see what prices are like after amd drops

[zinc widget]

Oh what motherboard do you have?

[limber nacelle]

probably not going to be good still for u

NZ is tuff

[jovial geyser]

yeah it is

[solid crown]

I remember when I got a 4070 for $300 man

[jovial geyser]

gotta deal with it though

[junior kiln]

I dont feel confident if AMD doesnt pull some magic. Sam Altman basically saying "we ran out of GPUs" is very damning. Those mfers in those ass overvalued AI companies are buying way too many of the GPUs lol

[solid crown]

now its $700

id never pay $700 even if I couldnt game again

[clear canyon]

thats a good deal

[jovial geyser]

i need to play my singing monsters, so i'm going to pay that money for a gpu

[clear canyon]

thats a mobile game

[jovial geyser]

you can get it on steam

[solid crown]

I just dont see why nvidia stopped 40 series production if 50 series is never gonna get stock

[limber nacelle]

I paid $500 us for a 3090 a year ago.... now theyre 700.....

[solid crown]

surely they plan on increasing stock

[clear canyon]

same silicon

[limber nacelle]

mostly same

[solid crown]

use your igpu broski

[fickle ivy]

Msi

[limber nacelle]

I do love the 4070ti super super

[clear canyon]

no, most of their silicon goes to ai and businesses

[clear canyon]

4070ti ^2

[limber nacelle]

super duper if you will

[zinc widget]

Yes it can just plug it into the argb header

[junior kiln]

Their logistics department is ass and its gonna be a lot of repurposed fabs. I wonder what they ARENT telling us about their distribution. I seriously wonder how many gpus are actually leaving Nvidia to actually just go to some tech startup AI company or Sam Altman

[solid crown]

then what was the point of even doing 50 series

[clear canyon]

new generation = more money

bc nvidia hype

[solid crown]

but theres no stock

[clear canyon]

"hype"

[fickle ivy]

Already plugged in

Did it when I first put my mobo in 2 months ago

[solid crown]

2 thousand gpus for the entirety of US is 6 million in revenue

if they were all 5090s

they got quite a bit of gpus to sell if they want to reach that 6 billion in gaming revenue

[zinc widget]

Did you not add Msi to signalrgb

[fickle ivy]

I'm still downloading it

[limber nacelle]

@solid crown they don't care about you

[clear canyon]

gaming is the last on their mind, they make more than 10x in their professional ai side

[limber nacelle]

pretty much

[solid crown]

2.8 billion is 2.8 billion

[junior kiln]

I would say it is likely there isnt stock available in part or largely because the AI companies are probably receiving more GPUs than they are willingly telling us as the end consumers.

[limber nacelle]

literal drop in the bucket

[junior kiln]

Nvidia definitely isnt giving us the whole picture

[fickle ivy]

Man I cant wait till my ssd and 3070 get here, this shit slow asf

[limber nacelle]

why focus on selling 5090s when you can sell that ad202 as a 6000 blackwell for like, 10x that price

[solid crown]

pretty sure I heard a rumor that blackwell isnt selling well

[clear canyon]

3070 is sadly a 1080p and entry level 1440p card with its 8gigs of vram

[solid crown]

like, the AI gpus

[limber nacelle]

literally the only stock we get are ad202s that are too defective to be professional cards

[fickle ivy]

I'm running 1440p 60hz

[molten patrol]

wonder what did they do for Q2 2024 spike

[clear canyon]

for what games

[fickle ivy]

And don't play demanding games

[fickle ivy]

The hardest to run would be war thunder, the rest are just indie games that can run on potatos

[clear canyon]

you should be fine, but i recommend a 1080p, 165hz, it will make gaming much better

[solid crown]

im pretty confident nvidia wont allow AMD to gain market share though

[fickle ivy]

I cannot afford a new monitor

I found this one in the recycling

[clear canyon]

i see, but when you can, its a game changer

[fickle ivy]

I do have a 65" tv that does 1080p 120

[clear canyon]

thats ass

[solid crown]

I meannnn

[clear canyon]

65in at 1080, yuck

[fickle ivy]

It does 4k 60

[solid crown]

would prolly still use that tbh

[limber nacelle]

just depends on how far you sit

could be completely fine for a tv

[fickle ivy]

I don't notice anything higher than 60fps, probably because I've been using 30fps my entire life

[clear canyon]

other side of the room 😦

[fickle ivy]

I sit like 4-5 feet in front of it

[solid crown]

lol trust me 60 is pretty meh

id at least want like 100 fps in games nowadays

[limber nacelle]

oh ok I think you just might need new eyes then

[clear canyon]

i run 165hz 1440p

[fickle ivy]

I've been sitting here for over 15 minutes just waiting for my applications to open

[clear canyon]

for both my setups

[solid crown]

my monitor can do 165hz ultrawide but rarely do I hit that

[clear canyon]

are you on a hard drive?

[limber nacelle]

you know bluray is 1080p right

[fickle ivy]

Its certainly not perfect t

[clear canyon]

what gpu

[solid crown]

4090

used to have it at least

[clear canyon]

really? odd

[fickle ivy]

But 1440p 27" looks amazing

[clear canyon]

also 4k

[solid crown]

yeah new games push your system lol

[clear canyon]

yep

[limber nacelle]

that's 4k bluray

[solid crown]

I think the best performing one so far was dragon age veilguard running like 150 fps max graphics

[hoary tree]

I’ve already found a couple of issues which make using iOS for my main phone annoying

[clear canyon]

still blueray

[junior kiln]

0-897yi[=o] l'-=\

[harsh whale]

Is the Ryzen 9 7950x3d better than the 7800x3d?

[clear canyon]

for what

[limber nacelle]

theres a reason why the 4k is specified for the 4k one

[harsh whale]

Gaming

[clear canyon]

gaming, 7800x3d

[limber nacelle]

[solid crown]

for just gaming not really unless you want to disable half the cores for slighter better silicon

[hoary tree]

One of those issues being a lack of a proper “camera” album in the gallery in which photos and videos shot on the device would go to automatically.

[solid crown]

opera gx smh

although to be fair none of the mainstream browsers are good anymore

[fickle ivy]

Okay but this hdd is from when I was like 13

[harsh whale]

Alright, is there something more than the 7800x3d? Am 200$ under budget

[neat flame]

it aint bad honestly

[fickle ivy]

I now just use chrome

[solid crown]

9800x3d

congrats, you are now $200 over budget

[limber nacelle]

do you even need the 9800x3d

[harsh whale]

Nope am still 100$ under

[limber nacelle]

kinda a waste unless you play at poverty res

[harsh whale]

“Poverty res” fucking wild

[fickle ivy]

Hard drive life

[limber nacelle]

truth

[solid crown]

dlss users crying rn

[fickle ivy]

I've gotten too used to using m.2

[solid crown]

using resolutions lower than 1080p lol

[fickle ivy]

I'm too spoiled

[clear canyon]

dlss is good for 1440p+

[solid crown]

get a nicer mobo or something

[harsh whale]

Nah, am playing at 1440p

[limber nacelle]

why

[solid crown]

at balanced or below dlss youre not

[limber nacelle]

waste of money

[clear canyon]

na

[solid crown]

cause hes under budget, sounds like a use it or lose it situation so why not

[clear canyon]

i have a 7800x3d and a 4080 at 1440p

[harsh whale]

Why? Am sure I can run most games at native

[limber nacelle]

getting a nicer mobo for the sake of getting a nicer mobo?

[fickle ivy]

I have a 12500t and (soon to be) 3070 at 1440p

[sinful cobalt]

using any upscaler for 1080p is absolutely diabolical

[clear canyon]

that cpu 😭

[solid crown]

well yeah but dlss renders the game at a lower res so thats the joke I was making

[limber nacelle]

unless you need a specific feature paying more for literally no benefit is stupid

[clear canyon]

i didnt see that one

[fickle ivy]

I got it for free 🤷

[serene pumice]

Real, you only need the 9800x3d if you got Intel B580

[sinful cobalt]

me asf thinking of going from x870 steel legend to b850 aorus ice

[molten patrol]

define 'nice' mobo lol 🤔

[solid crown]

then what else should he get? seems like he already has a 5090 9800x3d nicest stuff he can get etc

[solid crown]

something $100 more to fill his budget

[limber nacelle]

just get the cheapest board that gives you all the features you need 🗿

[harsh whale]

Am getting a gigabyte b850 gaming x or something

[limber nacelle]

how much ram is he getting

[solid crown]

microcenter bundle?

[sinful cobalt]

Im only gonna channge the mobo when I change the case, Im still gonna reuse the x870 in some case when I want/need to

[mellow shadow]

This thingy arrives at 2PM it’s 12:32AM rn

[limber nacelle]

i'd happily grab more ram capacity provided it's not causing him to do 2pc

[solid crown]

thermal grizzly released a plastic one for $10 its pretty cool

[mellow shadow]

I ❤️ Contact Frames

[limber nacelle]

other way around

[solid crown]

not really related to your purchase though

[harsh whale]

I am NOT getting a 5090

[limber nacelle]

wait

wait thermal grizzly did?

when?

[solid crown]

a plastic one released a thermal grizzly for $10?

[mellow shadow]

This one is metal and it’s was a whopping $5.99 + Tax

[clear canyon]

same, and more vram if it didnt cost 3k XD

[limber nacelle]

i was thinking of thermalright's cheapo shit that does the exact same thing

[serene pumice]

Good. X1950 Pro still great, no need to upgrade

[solid crown]

idk but I just heard about it but if you want to support a good person and well paid engineers than the TG contact frame LT is the way to go

[harsh whale]

Wild

[forest lotus]

Hmm sidequest at 10pm.

[harsh whale]

Am getting a 4070TiS

[harsh whale]

Am fasting bro 🙏

[limber nacelle]

ok gramps it's bed time, enough of your stories of the prehistoric age

[solid crown]

a little snack wouldnt hurt, nobody will know!

[forest lotus]

So far. I'm very tempted to fully order LM

[solid crown]

so why do you need to fill your budget so much

[harsh whale]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramadan

[forest lotus]

As aluminum based anti seize cools a ton better then reg thermal paste if you spread it properly

[solid crown]

bah whats the worst thatll happen? eternal damnation?

[harsh whale]

Because I can

[solid crown]

id probably save as much budget as possible to get a better gpu or something then

the 7800x3d and 9800x3d perform pretty similar

[forest lotus]

150w 5800x is being held at 81c with antiseize as thermal paste

[harsh whale]

Am not playing games that require more than the 4070TiS tbh

[forest lotus]

That's good asf. Even arctic mx6 so far didn't keep up to it

[solid crown]

those are not great temps

[forest lotus]

For a 150w oc that is very good

[solid crown]

bro what 80c at 150w is atrocious

thats like 300w intel type temps

[forest lotus]

It's uhh. The second hottest running single CCD cpu of it's gen

Doing 5.1ghz boost clocks

150w on a small die like that routinely pushes above 80c on regular thermal paste

So to be keeping it close to 80 is decent

[solid crown]

id probably go direct die over liquid metal

[solid crown]

I guess so

[forest lotus]

Involves delid. Could be done but LM on ihs or maybe using copper based anti seize may improve temps further

[solid crown]

I feel like at this point the issue is the IHS and not the thermal paste

[ember inlet]

spotify logged me out and send a suspicious activity link. clicked on the link to reset password, was invalid. changed my password anyways sucessfully. not sure what happened although i was on a vpn earlier today but that was about 5 hours ago

[forest lotus]

Ehh. There's some hot cores still so it's slightly on the anti seize distribution on the ihs

[ember inlet]

I dont see how i could've gotten hacked either

[sinful cobalt]

nobody realistically needs anything over a 4070TiS or even 5070Ti for gaming

[forest lotus]

Coldest core wile loaded is 74c wile the hottest is 81.5c

[solid crown]

I thought this was just down to the better cores getting all the work

[forest lotus]

So if I get a good spread of copper based anti seize it should even that all

[forest lotus]

Not in a evenly split multi threaded workload

They shouldn't be that much different

[solid crown]

might as well go LM then if its gonna be conductive

[forest lotus]

Might try the copper before I try LM for fun

[solid crown]

yeah

[forest lotus]

See how it works.

[solid crown]

so uhh whyd you try anti seize in the first place

[forest lotus]

Ran out of thermal paste

Needed to swap my 5800x back In

As the 5500 could not keep up

[fickle ivy]

My keyboard isn't working on windows

[solid crown]

I wonder how a thermal sheet would work

[forest lotus]

I've heard. Very well

[solid crown]

like kyrosheet

[forest lotus]

I want to LM my gpu tho

[solid crown]

ah hell no

[forest lotus]

It's already got PTM but I wanna see if I can push the air cooler harder

[solid crown]

nah bro its gonna kill the gpu 100%

[forest lotus]

If you properly isolate things and insulate the core it should be okay

[fickle ivy]

My keyboard is plugged in and lights up on windows but none of the key pressed work

[solid crown]

yeah if you re-engineer a premade product perfectly to hold liquid metal it SHOULD be ok

even nvidia put 3 walls between the LM and rest of the gpu on the 5090 "just in case"

[forest lotus]

Put a silicone seal around the gpu die and make sure any exposed component is covered in non conducive cement

[solid crown]

bro that cannot possible be worth it

[forest lotus]

It is

[solid crown]

shouldve just bought a better gpu

[solid crown]

me when im gambling

[forest lotus]

I bought one of the best for OC.

And got a very good binned card

[solid crown]

HoF edition?

[forest lotus]

Nah

OCF

[solid crown]

whats that?

[forest lotus]

Asrock 6900XT OCF

Rn with ptm I can do around 480w on air

[solid crown]

awh hell nah

[forest lotus]

LM I should be able to hopefully hit 500w on air

[solid crown]

you might as well buy a 4090 cooler and try to put it on there

[forest lotus]

The cooler is pretty beefy. The 4090 cooler would probably fair worse then this one

[solid crown]

idk I ran 600w on the asus tuf

[forest lotus]

On a much larger die

[solid crown]

wasnt pretty but it worked

[forest lotus]

The dear density on rdna2 kinda becomes impossible to cool other then Liquid cooling at between like 505-525w

[fickle ivy]

How do I get my fans to return to the stock behavior using signalrgb

[solid crown]

fair enough

[solid crown]

uninstall signalrgb cause it sucks

[forest lotus]

But I do beat 3090TI in non rt on like majority of games by a good chunk.

[solid crown]

that card is such a meme

[fickle ivy]

It makes my fans all 1 color

[forest lotus]

4k is a bit of a tossup tho as limited VRAM bandwidth cause my card has beeg L3 cache

And at around 480w I can keep up with a slightly oced 7900XT

Tho if you properly OC a 7900XT I'm not gonna be even remotely close

[solid crown]

im glad AMD got the power similar to NVIDIA for the 9070 gen

[forest lotus]

Rdna2 was a good gen.

This looks promising too

[fickle ivy]

AHHH My fucking keyboard won't work

[solid crown]

its nothing crazy but im getting one if its $600

[forest lotus]

I basically have the grandfather to that card lol.

[solid crown]

downgraded from a 4090 since it was so overkill and didnt like a depreciating asset of that value sitting around

[forest lotus]

The 9070 is actually pretty similar to the 6900XT in a few ways. But it's like twice as dense.

[solid crown]

how so

[sinful cobalt]

yea, this generation was a massive catchup while nvidia was slacking

[forest lotus]

Monolithic. L3 cache focused over overall VRAM bandwidth. But it's taking faster VRAM in too and that is nice. So it can compete at 4k unlike my card. But overall it's got a similar design philosophy to the rdna2 Navi 21 die.

I wanna get one simply to push it against my 6900XT

And my 6900XT doing 600+w if possible

[sinful cobalt]

💀

[fickle ivy]

The only thing that happens is this when I press F