tech-chat-1

[rugged sand]

Wdym?

[spice parcel]

arf

[gleaming rose]

bunch of kids come here weekly, ask for the most expensive no compromises parts list, then never build it

you are no different

[gusty wagon]

Money that they probably didn't earn, or earned illegally

[rugged sand]

istg I will actually build it.

[dapper light]

Weekly?

[left dove]

[spice parcel]

Why're we stereotyping 💔

[gleaming rose]

i dont believe you

[rugged sand]

I just need help.

[gleaming rose]

yes, especially in #1106613567966429224

[gusty wagon]

For clout

[forest lotus]

Or parents saved for them to go to further education

[left dove]

you need financial help

[gleaming rose]

prove to us that you have $10k to blow on a pc right now

[dapper light]

You might be underestimating the frequency here

[gleaming rose]

also ^

[random gyro]

time for my monthly shower

[gleaming rose]

lol

[gleaming rose]

fuck i need to shower
i will tmrw morning

[dapper light]

monthly??

[random gyro]

did i stutter

[forest lotus]

Lmaooo

[left dove]

god thats gross

[dapper light]

I don't wanna imagine the smell, probably worse than UK dental hygiene

[rugged sand]

I don't have it yet but I'm saving from a job. I also don't see why I need to prove anything. I simply want some help.

[gusty wagon]

If you spend $10k on a pc for mostly clout, i think you might need lessons on adulting, procedures and processes

[gleaming rose]

i always shower if im going to be around people

[random gyro]

imagine how fucking nasty it would be if you showered monthly, id feel like grease

[forest lotus]

Let's get realistic then.

[gusty wagon]

$6500 into adulting lessons and courses, i'm throwing that in

[random gyro]

LMAO

[rugged sand]

It will take about 8 months to save 10k minus taxes

[gleaming rose]

so you don't have it... wait until you do (and hopefully until you're financially responsible) and then come back
the market changes faster than you're earning at a job as a 15yo

[gleaming rose]

what the actual shit

[forest lotus]

There is much better money spent then on a PC

[gleaming rose]

yeah real

[dapper light]

Anyone who pays 6k for such courses have a More Money Than Sense Disorder.

[forest lotus]

Buy a car. Save. Don't just blow it on a PC

[left dove]

"guys look at my $10k pc build im totally gonna build it"

[gleaming rose]

honestly yeah

[left dove]

🙄

[gusty wagon]

This rig of mine costs 5k, but only 2k if you build it with used parts

[forest lotus]

For 10k you can get a real nice first car

[rugged sand]

I'm not 15, In the time it takes to save the money I want to do research so I don't mess anything up or buy the wrong thing. And I really don't think it matters what I spend my money on, it's MY money.

[dapper light]

A Prius

[left dove]

I love the mousepad

[gusty wagon]

6k for a dozen different courses would be nice, wouldn't you agree?

[rugged sand]

I already have a car.

[limpid ivy]

cute ortho keyboard

[gleaming rose]

that is a terrible mindset and i hope you seek professional financial help

[dapper light]

I'm more of a self-learning type

[forest lotus]

Upgrade said car.

Make it fast

[rugged sand]

I like my old car, I don't need a new one.

[gleaming rose]

you wont buy the wrong thing if you come back here once you actually have the money

[rugged sand]

(wrong reply)

[forest lotus]

Upgrade the car

Do it custom build car

[gleaming rose]

and once you speak to a financial advisor

[forest lotus]

Way more worth then a PC bro

[dapper light]

Nah

[gusty wagon]

You in 2025: 10k
Me in 2025: 10k

You in 2030: has pc that costed 10k
Me in 2030: has 10.5k and also pc that costed 2.5k

7% bank ROI is nothing to sneeze at

[dapper light]

You're left with a 1000HP car with nowhere you can drive the full potential on without getting arrested

Unless you're german

[rugged sand]

I talked to my parents already they don't care. I'm gonna spoil myself by saving for 8 months. I'm going to still be living with my parents with almost no responsibilities. I want to spoil myself with a PC I never have to upgrade. It's only 8 months. I can make more than 10k if I keep saving.

[left dove]

ooh my god you spoiled little shit

[gleaming rose]

i invested some of my bar mitzvah money and ive made good amounts back so far

[dapper light]

Linus said before it's better to buy Mid-end and upgrading it more frequently than buying top of the line that last only barely longer

[gleaming rose]

or you could put 75% of it in savings for when you move out and use the 2.5k for a nice setup

[gusty wagon]

Spend on your bed, showerhead, and experiences with friends. Make sure your friends owe you favors. Favors are much pricier than money.

[forest lotus]

Ey ey ey. It's not illegal if you don't get caught (also tracks exsist) (for legal reasons this is a joke)

[gleaming rose]

that is a fucked up way to live but also not incorrect

[rugged sand]

I already have all those things.

[gleaming rose]

im surprised

[rugged sand]

Yeah or I could buy a PC.

[left dove]

A quality sleep and a quality shower can greatly improve overall happiness.

[gleaming rose]

i was talking about the favors things

[dapper light]

top of the line more often than not, depreciate into nothingness quick

the 4090 is an anomaly in this sense thanks to the AI boom

[left dove]

I mean favors are actions, and actions are more valuable than money or words

[gleaming rose]

i usually do things for my buddies without expecting things in return

[forest lotus]

Yessssssss

[gleaming rose]

true

[dapper light]

but more often than not buying a mid end build and upgrading a bit more often is still cheaper

[rugged sand]

What's even happening anymore 😂 I just wanted some advice.

[dapper light]

like people who bought 2080ti for 1200 and then a 3070 beats it for 500

stings

[gleaming rose]

we gave you better advice than what you were asking for; youre welcome

[left dove]

we called you on your bullshit and are now entertaining ourselves

[gusty wagon]

Welcome to LTT pc building services! We offer consultant services at $500/h. /j

But yeah

3.5k

[left dove]

an hour? we're a collective hivemind of autistic passion of tech, $500/s

[gleaming rose]

this is a very accurate description ngl

i especially like the sound of the pay

[gusty wagon]

3.5k is a good price

I wouldn't personally spend more than 2k for just the box alone

[left dove]

3.5k for EVERYTHING in the setup including display & peripherals and probably even a comfy chair

[gleaming rose]

and that would still leave you with 6.5k to put in savings or invest

[limpid ivy]

send in your pcpartpicker list and let the counsel of judges decide

[rugged sand]

the case?

[gleaming rose]

the computer

[gusty wagon]

Everything in the case and the case too

[rugged sand]

Yeah 2k can get a very good pc

[forest lotus]

Finallyyyyyyy

Finally.

[rugged sand]

I still want a 10k pc tho

[forest lotus]

Cracked out laptop.

[gleaming rose]

seek financial help

[forest lotus]

Aka. pentium b940 8gb ram and a SSD.

[rugged sand]

I don't need that

[limpid ivy]

That toshiba correct?

[gleaming rose]

or rather financial advice

[forest lotus]

Yesssss.

[gleaming rose]

if you want to spend $10k on a pc you definitely do

[forest lotus]

It works. It's usable now

[limpid ivy]

ah lol I remember opening that sucker for a relative once

[rugged sand]

I know the RTX 5090 is probably the best gpu, idk what cpu to get?

[forest lotus]

My problem was the HDD was dieing.

And it hated usb sticks

[random gyro]

if you dont have over 200K in your checking account you dont need to spend 10k on a pc

if you do then go ahead and have fun

and slide me $500

[limpid ivy]

👀

[gleaming rose]

why do you want a 5090

[rugged sand]

I'm a minor wtf would I need 200k for? I don't have to pay for anything.

[forest lotus]

It still crashes if I try to use cpuz so still got some kinks to work out

[random gyro]

so ur gonan spend every penny u have on a pc

[rugged sand]

Yeah, why is that a problem?

[gleaming rose]

yes, yes it fucking is

[random gyro]

thats dumb, you can make a 5090 pc for 4k or less even in todays market

[left dove]

I hate modern education so much.

[gleaming rose]

because (even i know this as a minor) when you turn 18-20 and you move out youre going to regret not having that 6.5k

[random gyro]

not even an american education issue this time

[dapper light]

rate my list in bio

[gusty wagon]

Oh my god i know what you can get with $10,000

One RTX 8000

[rugged sand]

Ok let's assume I wait 8 months and spend 10k on a pc. I'm now almost 17 years old. (My parents say I can live with them up to age 25, but I will probably move out around 21) That gives me 4 years to continue saving money. YES 10k is a LOT of money, but it's something I really want, and If I have the money there shouldn't be an issue.

[limpid ivy]

Panda stamp of approval.

[random gyro]

why spend 10k on a pc when its gonna be considered outdated in 4 years...?

[rugged sand]

Why spend 3k on a pc and in 4 years have to buy another 3k pc.

[gusty wagon]

I didn't expect financial advice in tc1 but that's what we do now, i guess

financial-advice-1

[random gyro]

are you dumb

[tall coyote]

Lol

[rugged sand]

Yeah it will be considered outdated but it will still be extremely good

[random gyro]

do you even know how much the tax will be on a 10k pc

[gusty wagon]

Wait

Hold up people, i have an excellent idea

[rugged sand]

How much?

[random gyro]

do u live in the usa

[dapper light]

[rugged sand]

yup

[random gyro]

what state

[tall coyote]

Oh my

[rugged sand]

AZ

[tall coyote]

That would be pt

[random gyro]

after taxes itll be $10,560

[gusty wagon]

compensator $2500 and $2000 RAID10, and $1000 peripherals

And residents of tc1 takes $4500 consultant fee

[rugged sand]

I thought it would be more, that's not too bad.

[tall coyote]

Just buy it in alaska

[gusty wagon]

I fully agree with splitting the consultant fee with people here

[random gyro]

yeah make a dumb purchase go ahead

[rugged sand]

Good idea, I'll move to alaska to buy my 10k pc 😂

[tall coyote]

Lol

[random gyro]

itll cost more there

[tall coyote]

Oh yea

[rugged sand]

Thanks

[tall coyote]

To make up for the tax

Got japan and get parts there

[rugged sand]

The money to get there and back is probably more than 500

[random gyro]

everything in alaska is more expensive and even more-so if youre not somewhere like anchorage

[tall coyote]

True but the parts are cheaper there

[formal sonnet]

I think you'll find that the housing market requires BUTTLOADS of money. But hey, you do you.

[rugged sand]

That's not really an issue right now.

[tall coyote]

I agree I'm 19 and I tried moving out in cali

I paid one moth rent and it costed me like 1900 for a 1 bedroom

And I'm pretty sure that's cheap

[rugged sand]

I can live with my parents and continue to make money, why would I move out right away?

[random gyro]

i like this mentality

[tall coyote]

Yea I don't suggest it till your stable enough and cofiendt enough to leave

Also move close just in case you move back for some reason

[random gyro]

i never wanna leave here but ima have to at some point

glad im only 16

[tall coyote]

Lucky you don't have to pay fed taxes when u work

[limpid ivy]

lol yea not fun but hey you and I want to dip from cali. Soon just not now until I finish college and get stable

[random gyro]

still gotta pay taxes lol

[tall coyote]

Yea

[rugged sand]

I agree that 10k on a pc is WAY overkill. But If it's something I really want and don't think that It will be a problem in the future, I don't see why you guys are so against me buying it? I could probably be set with over 50k before I move out (if I only work at minimum wage).

[tall coyote]

I'm going to college for sociology and a sub in computer science

[random gyro]

i got a job im still fucking waiting

[rugged sand]

What job?

[tall coyote]

Man I work at taco bell and I got hired on the spot

[frank plover]

if i already have a ryzen 7 5800x in my main pc would it be worth it to upgrade to an x3d and put this current cpu in a server or should i just go and get some other cpu

[rugged sand]

ggs

[random gyro]

its just an insane amount, you can max out your pc with 4k, idk how youd even add the extra 6k even if you tried

[tall coyote]

Live right next to it to

[random gyro]

bojangles

[plain cypress]

get out before the water wars start

[limpid ivy]

Nice. Funny thing my film major basically all the work in socal. So that will be fun, but I freelance a lot now so it's working out for the most part.

The painful drives up to LA get me every time.

[rugged sand]

No I fight for my state!

[tall coyote]

Lol I was going to major in that and decided not to

[teal agate]

i had a question

[pearl notch]

guys, suggest me a 2x32gb DDR5 real quick.. I need to pair it with 4070ti and i913900kf

[random gyro]

peak

[tall coyote]

Wait la. I live about 2 hours away from there

[rugged sand]

You'd be suprised on the upgrades you can get, that actually make a difference.

[plain cypress]

i left and what did ya know, other places have seasons

[tall coyote]

Live near hmm hiw to not get myself doxed.

[gleaming rose]

if i apply at publix i probably will

[rugged sand]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH_c4sGDrPg&t=0s

[teal agate]

so if a ryzen 7700 isnt that much more than a 7500f is it worth it if all ill have is a rx 7600

[tall coyote]

Live about 45 min away from colinga if u now where that is toxic

[plain cypress]

hi uh can i get a chicken chipotle burrito

[limpid ivy]

haha yea I had no intentions but it became a passion. The one major I saw where I had to least amount of math/English classes.

[tall coyote]

Also if you live in tulare try cos

[rugged sand]

I want to live close to family 🙂

[tall coyote]

Uh we don't have that. I think u want to try chiplote

[plain cypress]

oh and as a bonus i am now far from familty

[rugged sand]

I don't know what that is no 😅

[limpid ivy]

More about connections and experience then the degree tbh.

[gusty wagon]

3.5k pc with peripherals
1k router and UPS
4k HCI homelabs
1.5k Herman Miller Aeron

[rugged sand]

Sad

[random gyro]

im confused lmao, where is the extra 6k coming from

forgot to add mobo but u get my point

[tall coyote]

Toxic do u know Bakersfield and tular

[rugged sand]

Uh no...

[plain cypress]

bring this shit back

[tall coyote]

Oh I wish

[rugged sand]

On tuesday you can get free tacos at taco bell

[random gyro]

W if u remove the tomatoes

[tall coyote]

Wait

[plain cypress]

whats wrong with tomatoes

[tall coyote]

This tuesday

[random gyro]

i dont like them personally

[tall coyote]

Also you can make order something similar and add or remove what ever to make that

[limpid ivy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2gq4IwIc_s&pp=ygUVbWljZWFobCByZWV2ZXMgdG9tYXRv 🙂

[rugged sand]

What are the 3 things below the "3.5k pc with peripherals"? I know what a router is.

[tall coyote]

Wow so toxic you prolly live closer orgeon

[rugged sand]

I live in Arizona

[gusty wagon]

• wifi 7 router with 10gbe ports
• uninterruptible power supply
• home server (hyperconverged)
• Aeron - the best damned gaming chair i know

[random gyro]

how do i order

[tall coyote]

Oops I was talking to panda but instead

Ok panda

[limpid ivy]

👀

[plain cypress]

what is this

[tall coyote]

It's a birthday church

It's SUPPER sweet

[rugged sand]

I have the best router and wifi (my parents pay for) I just wanna spend the 10k on the pc itself. Unless you don't think I can spend 10k without maxing out the components and then having to spend extra money on dumb stuff. I just want THE BEST gaming Pc money can buy without it being a super computer.

[random gyro]

you cant even spend 10k if you max it out

[tall coyote]

Spend less money on the case

Or even rgb

And try looking locally

[rugged sand]

I don't got jack- near me 😂

[tall coyote]

Tge pc I built for mom has a 1080 I got for 70 off the fb markellace

I don't either

Fb marketplace*

[rugged sand]

Well RTX 5090 is $2000 so we have $8000 left. What the best cpu for gaming be?

[rugged sand]

rlly?

[tall coyote]

Ok so the ram you can definitely get second hand

[random gyro]

9800x3d

[tall coyote]

And the drives prolly but i woukdnt know in az

[rugged sand]

I will probably order everything online. I want the warrenties.

[teal agate]

hows a ryzen 7 7700 and rx 7600

[tall coyote]

Ok so check ebay for a cpu and motherboard bundle

Or amazon

[gusty wagon]

But what about mesh network?

[rugged sand]

what's that?

[gusty wagon]

What about MLAG with mesh AP? /j

[rugged sand]

How much?

[gusty wagon]

$500 LOL

[random gyro]

600

[teal agate]

so it is a good combination?

[gusty wagon]

I don't think your expectations of us are what you think we are

[rugged sand]

Idk, I just need the best cpu for gaming, whatever that is. As long as it fits in the budget.

[gusty wagon]

We can recommend you a 2k-4k setup that obliterates other consumer gaming PCs

[gusty wagon]

If you want to spend that 10k then you'll need to learn what else you can improve on

[tall coyote]

Toxic here is a motherboard ram and cpu bundle

[rugged sand]

Yeah well... I got 8 months so..

[gusty wagon]

Giving us 10k telling us only the pc is like giving us 5k commission on a 5k build

[rugged sand]

Well I'm building it myself?

[gusty wagon]

We don't mind taking that 5k but we're also not evil

[dapper light]

there is no 10k consumer pc

[gusty wagon]

5k consultant services lol

[left dove]

What everyone's trying to say is get financially educated

[gusty wagon]

Unless he waits for PC2 to arrive

[rugged sand]

Maybe 10k isn't the right number then. I just want the best gaming pc money can buy, no expenses. Water cooling, just anything that can make it better.

[tall coyote]

I say the bundle I sent was good

Ok that's bitter

Oops better*

[rugged sand]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gH_c4sGDrPg What is this tho?

[calm idol]

a waste of money

[left dove]

oh my fucking god

[rugged sand]

I wanna build something like that.

[left dove]

No, you don't

[tall coyote]

Look ill help you

[gusty wagon]

6k with water cooling, probably.

If you want to waste money, you can go down several rabbitholes

• GMK/ePBT keycaps and keyboards
• Enterprise network equipment
• Audio equipment (KEF LS50 is $2000)
• Herman Miller, Humanscale or Ergohuman chairs (1000~4000)

[tall coyote]

Dm me

[rugged sand]

Thanks 👍

[limber nacelle]

hey a nice chair isn't a waste of money

it's an investment, and i'll stand by that

[rugged sand]

Ok then I guess I'll build a 6k PC, whatever the number is to get it the best possible.

[gusty wagon]

Gamers make do with a $20 wooden chair

[rugged sand]

I just need help with the parts.

[left dove]

gamers make do with a 5 gallon pail

[limber nacelle]

$20 wooden chair works if you want to become fucking quasimodo

[left dove]

go help yourself with google

[rugged sand]

If you want to die sooner.

[gusty wagon]

I wouldn't do that

[rugged sand]

Does it look like I'm taking to you?

[left dove]

it gets him out of here

[left dove]

Public forum, sit down lmao

[rugged sand]

You're not being helpful.

[tall coyote]

Toxic I can help you just dm me

[left dove]

and your ideals are unrealistic.

[rugged sand]

yeah I'll add you

[rugged sand]

Yeah 10k might be unrealistic. I don't know the number for the best gaming pc. I assumed it would be no more than 10k so I set it at that number. I just want to max out the pc.

[gusty wagon]

You can try these discords

• PCPP
• BAPC (strict, trigger-happy)
• LTT forums
• overclocking
• GamersNexus
• SFFPC/ SFFhub

Peripherals

• monitor enthusiasts
• kbdfans
• qmk

Homelabs / programming

• r/homelabs
• DSI
• thecodingden

pcpp and GN has a lot of info on stuff going on within the usa

[rugged sand]

ty

[left dove]

For ten grand I can get a small studio apartment, pay off 3mo in advance, completely buy a new bedroom with decor, and a new computer

like

there is so much you can do with ten grand, it's a very large chunk of money

[gusty wagon]

Stay in parents' basement and spend all that money on therapy

mental, chemical, physical, any

[left dove]

Thankfully for me therapy is covered by insurance

[plain cypress]

orrrrr $10k >>> S&P500

[gusty wagon]

What if you don't have insurance?

[plain cypress]

you die

[left dove]

then I feel bad for the son, I got 99 problems but that ain't one

[rugged sand]

We already discussed this, yes I know 10k is a lot. I am a minor with almost no responsibilities. I want to go overboard on a pc bc I love video games and want to make vidoes.

[left dove]

Go overboard on your education

[rugged sand]

No thanks

school does not help you succeed most of the time

I get A's in all of my classes, and I still think it's a waste of time.

[plain cypress]

are you in high school

[rugged sand]

I've pretty much gotten all A's my whole life every year.

[rugged sand]

Yeah

[plain cypress]

because grade school isn't challenging

its meant to babysit people half the time

[rugged sand]

I'm a sophomore almost junior.

[left dove]

It was for me :(

[plain cypress]

i would absolutely say high school did not prepare me for adulthood; college was a real slap in the face

[gusty wagon]

If you put in your 10k into a 7% bank now, 8 months later you'll get 10,600. That's a free 9800X3D cpu!

[rugged sand]

Yeah quit public school, to do online school. Now I have more time for working out, cleaning, job, etc. A good choice I made.

[plain cypress]

my schools were too easy even with honors/ap/whatever
i never learned proper study and homework habits cause i was able to get it all done during lunch

[gusty wagon]

this is not financial advice

[rugged sand]

I will have 10k and if I keep saving after I spend that 10k I will have about 50k before I move out assuming I stay at minimum wage.

[plain cypress]

where 7% savings account

[left dove]

this conversation makes me sad

[gusty wagon]

What's the result after you input a 7% yearly rate, compounded monthly?

[gusty wagon]

My academics fell off hard due to mental getting worse

[left dove]

same

[rugged sand]

Idk what that means.

[left dove]

I wanna go back in time to middle school, there was home ec & I learned how to sew and cook :(

[rugged sand]

Sorry, hope you get better 🙏 I've been there.

[formal sonnet]

I'ma be real with you: school (elementary, secondary, even university) doesn't always really teach actual life skills, especially when it comes to how [disgustingly] some businesses are operated. To be clear, schooling (specifically university) can absolutely teach people social skills / how to interact with other humans, and has merit in giving you the structure to gain X skills in Y field, which can be especially important for some industries (engineering, healthcare, etc.) or if you're someone who needs such structure), but IMO nothing prepares one for the IRL bureaucracy / red-tape that comes later in life better than life itself.

[plain cypress]

home ec is a real thing?

i thought it was only in the movies

[left dove]

it was

[rugged sand]

I agree 100%

[gusty wagon]

Nope. I assume you haven't had the abyss stare back at you for the better part of two decades, or have avoidant attachment characteristics.

Don't worry about it, i have counsellors and i'm doing alright now

[tall coyote]

i get it i do work from friday to sunday and school which mine starts at 8am from monday to thursday

[left dove]

I had an awesome little stoner hippy teacher for it and it was the best class ever. I miss it so much

[gusty wagon]

https://www.nerdwallet.com/calculator/compound-interest-calculator

[plain cypress]

middle school was terrible
we had race wars

[rugged sand]

Like when you put your money in a bank?

[gusty wagon]

Home economics was fun, even if i didn't pay any attention into it

[gusty wagon]

Exactly

[left dove]

I learned how to bake back then 😭

god so many fucking core memories

[azure topaz]

DETONATE

[plain cypress]

i did band

[rugged sand]

I cried every night and every day for 6 years until my emotions completely broke and I didn't feel anything for 8 months.

[plain cypress]

and got bit by some girl named sydney

[formal sonnet]

I'm so happy my elementary school started us kids on basic (and free) credit union savings accounts super early. It's been nice knowing how to save money, calculate taxes, and do a little investment.

[gusty wagon]

Well, most of the stuff i have can be resolved by just reading and talking to people, so that's fine

[rugged sand]

I doubled my $400 (all my money) gambling with crypto one time. That's all the investinve I've ever done....

[formal sonnet]

Though, I'm a bit miffed that the secondary school Home Economics course taught us NOTHING about loans, mortgages, or legal things we need to know later in life. It's like "okay, high-schoolers, now that you're graduating, guess you'll figure everything else financial / legally related later in life - GOOD LUCK!"

[gusty wagon]

No, home econs is housewife stuff

[plain cypress]

looking back its crazy that high school doesn't require everyone to complete some sort of financial literacy course before graduating

[left dove]

I am a total housewife tbh

[ember inlet]

I wanna do taxes myself. I've used turbotax the past two years and it literally might have the worst user base to function ratio I've ever seen

[gusty wagon]

Marry another housewife

[plain cypress]

https://freetaxusa.com/

stop paying turbotax/hrblock

[formal sonnet]

For us it was a mix of cooking, woodshop, sewing, metal working, "accounting" (here's how to open Excel, GOOD LUCK!), and general computer use. I absolutely loved the first 4 because hands on learning is love, is life. (And I already loved computers, so that part of the course was a complete breeze.)

[left dove]

yesss they make it so easy

[plain cypress]

y'all had woodshop?

my high school was lame

[ember inlet]

I just used the free version but still. Is this what you use?

[azure topaz]

how do i use my homelab to file my taxes

[ember inlet]

HA I wish

[azure topaz]

local hosted automated tax filing

[left dove]

Woodshop, auto mechanics, welding, machining, cad/cam..

[plain cypress]

i switched last year and its so much better than turbo tax

[rugged sand]

Woodshop sucked, I didn't even do anything or learn anything. The teacher sucked. But we put up with it bc we didn't want homework.

[plain cypress]

turbotax made me pay for filing investment related stuff

freetaxusa was, well, free

[plain cypress]

wtf

[ember inlet]

lol this year i got to the end and it told me I owed like 150 bucks but I just clicked though it again without changing anything and now the government has to pay me $250

[formal sonnet]

Way ahead of ya there - SimpleTax is love; is life. (Or whatever free equivalent people have in their country.)

[ember inlet]

how do you figure that

[gusty wagon]

! That is awesome

[left dove]

freetaxusa can just take the application fee or w/e it is from your returns before they DD it to you

for me it was like $13

[plain cypress]

we had live news & film production as a highlight class

idk thats about it

we were the media high school

[left dove]

There was also glass & ceramics, as well as foundry/smithing but I didn't take those

I really liked welding though, I took it twice

[plain cypress]

oh yeah hi panda

[limpid ivy]

same there was a wood work class but it was canned after some students messed around and got injured.

[rugged sand]

Guys I tried applying to arby's and then I did the whole process and got to the last step and it said, "select your arby's" and mine wasn't listed on there....? I signed up through my arby's locations webiste!?

[left dove]

Go in and ask for an application.

[plain cypress]

we had no trades related classes tbh

oh we also had music writing/production

[left dove]

lmao "I wanna spend ten grand on a pc"

"guys i can't figure out the application process for arbys"

[thorn pewter]

Am eating blaja

[plain cypress]

1. its fucking arbys you can do better bro

i do not have a follow up

[gusty wagon]

It's a backend problem or that outlet is not hiring

[left dove]

based gummies

[rugged sand]

Yeah probably will once i stop being sick 😭

[thorn pewter]

Wym there like 7/10

[gusty wagon]

Most often times when stuff like this happens it's not the user's fault

[left dove]

fuck off they're amazing

[gusty wagon]

(I learned this in UI/UX class)

[thorn pewter]

But this one tastes legit like soap

[left dove]

you got a shit brand then

[lethal bay]

shark gummies go crazy

[plain cypress]

also fast food sites are generally bad

[rugged sand]

It's 2 minutes away. That's a steal on gas money.

[gusty wagon]

Usually, yes

[plain cypress]

is there anything else walkable

[thorn pewter]

Nvm ig my mouth had soap in it, I washed it out and I can see why they are alr

[plain cypress]

eating cilantro?

[azure topaz]

dont you dare

[plain cypress]

jk i love cilantro and it does not taste like soap

[azure topaz]

fuck your stupid soap genes

[azure topaz]

thank you

[rugged sand]

Yeah a supermarket. But I aint working there. I know someone who works there who makes my wanna die they are so annoying.

[ember inlet]

oh ew

[rugged sand]

Or farther than arby's is a burger king

[plain cypress]

could be a good place to rid yourself of your enemies

[thorn pewter]

I grow a lil tiny cilantro in my lil garden lmao, they are amazing

[plain cypress]

personally, supermarket > arbys

[azure topaz]

personally

[thorn pewter]

Fastfood in general tbh

[rugged sand]

Not an enemy. But they will go out of there way to make my job terrible. I guess I could always report them ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[plain cypress]

retail > food service

[plain cypress]

you could disappear them

[thorn pewter]

I think I was 7 since the last time I went and ate fast food

[plain cypress]

im not saying murder

but im not not saying murder

[forest lotus]

Hmm. Can I replace my laptops b940 with an I7 3940XM

Idk how the bios would like it.

[thorn pewter]

What

[long goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/interesting-intrigued-gif-21376129

[forest lotus]

Laptops long ago had socketed cpus

This one does.

[thorn pewter]

Some and very rare

[forest lotus]

Well I have my hands on one.

[rugged sand]

🤔

[formal sonnet]

"We've had this discussion before, STEVE: the supermarket freezer. Is not. NOT for murder. What am I going to find when I open the freezer door, STEVE? Don't make me call the cleaners again, STEVE."

[dapper light]

framework need to bring back socketed CPUs

[long goblet]

do laptop cpu's have heatspreaders?

[forest lotus]

No

[long goblet]

i rather think they don't.

[dapper light]

direct die

[weak osprey]

Is there an app ai tunes your fan curve? My bios is so shit I don’t want to deal with it that way and it doesn’t have the ai smart stuff

[plain cypress]

its way too late for that

[dapper light]

there is that one skylake alienware laptop that uses desktop CPUs kek which do have the IHS

[long goblet]

i've never snapped a die, but i remember that being a thing back in the k7 days...

[plain cypress]

this is the opposite of what i want

[plain cypress]

okay well if you want a brick you can have sockets

i think clevo still occasionally does a desktop laptop

[weak osprey]

Yeah but it’s what I want

[long goblet]

"laptop"

[ember inlet]

I did I ran a cpu with no cooler and no ihs. it was an ancient xeon dual core at like 1.4 Ghz and I had to disable one core. it actually was running windows until I touched the die and I guess the thermal shock was too much

[rugged sand]

thinkpads are the best budget laptops tbh

[plain cypress]

its such a convenient place to hide a body

[ember inlet]

it was like a 13w chip with both cored enabled

[thorn pewter]

Shit ama have to mod my bios now,(modding is a term.am loosely using here as am flipping on the options in a UEFI flash)

[left dove]

yay

[formal sonnet]

Yeah let's maybe say on the topic of tech. Jokes are good and all, but sometimes only as one-off's. And sometimes not at all. In this case, one-off, then time to move onward to tech-talk, with your host, Alan Perry.

[plain cypress]

:(

[left dove]

is food tech

[thorn pewter]

[plain cypress]

its fooooood

[plucky frost]

food is tech

[left dove]

can food be tech

[plain cypress]

its a website with food

[thorn pewter]

Biotech

[plain cypress]

website is tech

[inland perch]

and discord could be a search engine

[rugged sand]

Conversation perged?

[forest lotus]

I think the fastest part in my laptop rn

Is the ssd.

[plucky frost]

is 720p gaming still good?

[left dove]

for portable, sure

[thorn pewter]

240p for portable is acceptable

(3ds)

[left dove]

nani the fuck

[forest lotus]

I was honestly so hyped to see the ssd boot.

This laptop has been non-stop pain in my side for three days.

It's no longer.

[fierce raven]

why would you play at 720p

[forest lotus]

I now have a semi usable office laptop.

[inland perch]

i believe 1080p is enough.

[rugged sand]

guys you should buy an xbox to play plants vs zombies. They have a xbox exclusive gamemode for that game where you can verse your friend, one person is the plants and one person is the zombies. SO FUN.

[forest lotus]

That I got completely free.

[gusty wagon]

Nice

[forest lotus]

As a broke college student I see this as an absolute win.

[plucky frost]

its more clear than 480p

[inland perch]

bold of you to assume i have friends with xbox,or wait any friends.

[left dove]

I want ice cream

[fierce raven]

1080p is more clearer

[thorn pewter]

Ohh I have a lot of ice cream, which one u like

[rugged sand]

You have to play with your friend irl

[left dove]

I like me some rocky road or moose tracks

[rugged sand]

Or your mom

[inland perch]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-green-green-patrick-kiwami-yakuza-kiwami-2-gif-12358546634211128625

[forest lotus]

I have never been happier to see a laptop actually run. Now I still have issues to iron out. Like Windows update failing and cpuz just auto crashing the laptop. But otherwise it's working.

[thorn pewter]

That would be on a cone or a bowl?

[left dove]

bowl, duh

[gusty wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-gif-2179609760095392890

[thorn pewter]

How much scoops

[rugged sand]

THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE MATTHEW said he was talking about "sun tea"

[formal sonnet]

No joke. If I had the resources and technology, I'd have an ice cream machine whose sole purpose was making me some Island Farms Moose Tracks ice cream on-demand.

[gusty wagon]

But what about ubuntu :D

[left dove]

YESSS

[rugged sand]

"so instead of boiling it
you leave in the sun so i said in the middle of no where"

[gusty wagon]

What does that taste like?

[inland perch]

https://tenor.com/view/garfield-belly-full-stuffed-hungry-gif-12595013

[thorn pewter]

That would be 0.75¢ now

[gusty wagon]

I love my ice creams in different flavours

[thorn pewter]

8 scoops for big kid now

[forest lotus]

Right now. I'd try again but I need to figure out exactly how to keep a drive in a MBR partitioning scheme wile making the media. All without the use of a usb...

[left dove]

mint cookie dough is also pretty great

[rugged sand]

"And wait for it to boil and then put the teas bags and wait and then after that its like normal teas"

[thorn pewter]

Bro

[rugged sand]

"i did it in when i wanted to learn the differnt ways to make tea"

[gusty wagon]

No uefi for the laptop?

[plain cypress]

tillamook any flavor ice cream

[left dove]

YES

[forest lotus]

No uefi

[thorn pewter]

Love their cheese tho

[plucky frost]

how would you guys arrange 4 monitors?

[left dove]

tillamook berry flavors = total win

[plain cypress]

although my favorite is Malted Mooshake

[plain cypress]

the right version is a TV with extra steps

[azure topaz]

explode!

[formal sonnet]

It tastes like delicious.

[azure topaz]

you asked this yesterday

[thorn pewter]

I think I have some in the fridge rn

[plucky frost]

yes but i need more suggestions

[formal sonnet]

I would arrange them in a way that's most productive to my specific workflow. For me, that looks like 1x 27" 2560x1440 horizontally, with another 27" 2560x1440 monitor vertically on the right at the moment.

[gusty wagon]

Ooh, that looks nice

[thorn pewter]

Ama go check

[formal sonnet]

Love this site for monitor arrangements. Makes it easy to visualize different monitor sizes, resolutions, and physical layouts before you spend time in real life moving them around.
https://multimonitorcalculator.com/

[forest lotus]

But rn I'm happy with my SSD drive being cloned from the dieing HDD @gusty wagon

It actually feels semi responsive.

[gusty wagon]

Wait how many attachments

[gusty wagon]

Nice

[dapper light]

mine is an L

sideways L

A1 - - -
B1 B2 B3

[forest lotus]

By responsive. On passmark. The cpu scores. 742pts.

My oced 5800x scores nearly 40k pts. Any improvement is needed with a laptop this slow.

The L3 cache bandwidth of this cpu is the bandwidth of my memory

[rugged sand]

Neither. I would space all four apart.

But you don't need 4 monitors unless you work at an office

3 is more than enough

[left dove]

lol

[plucky frost]

i think i need at least 6

[rugged sand]

6 for all your 4 chan tabs?

[gusty wagon]

If you're running w11, i have a few things that i can help you with

[formal sonnet]

Monitors are one of those things that often follow the Law of Diminishing Returns - sometimes more monitors actually makes you less productive... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diminishing_returns

[gusty wagon]

My secondary office laptop is a 13" dual-core 5600u with 16gb, and it runs alright

[azure topaz]

my 4c8t 8250u mogs u

[gusty wagon]

Intel 5600U, not the AMD 5600U

[azure topaz]

yea i kno

[gusty wagon]

I've disabled and removed so many things on it

[forest lotus]

It's running w10

[gusty wagon]

Hmm...

[forest lotus]

And a pretty old version of w10 too

[plucky frost]

is there any performance drops using pcie riser cables?

[forest lotus]

It's haveing difficulty updating so I will have to figure it out.

[gusty wagon]

Make sure you get a good quality riser with internationally good reviews, however there won't be much international reviews if you're getting from aliexpress or taobao

[left dove]

what about inertially good reviews

[forest lotus]

@gusty wagon

[gusty wagon]

I'm on my third riser and it's the only one that manages to maintain pcie4 x16. I don't know if it's because Giga-Mega has experience or that my fingers caused the risers to malfunction

[plain cypress]

did you take this picture with a samsung?

[left dove]

lmao

[gusty wagon]

download 1607 iso and burn using rufus

Or, mount iso and install

[forest lotus]

Can I have the second option expanded upon

[gusty wagon]

double click the iso

[forest lotus]

As usb's are fully out of the question here

[gusty wagon]

Go into the iso and run setup

[forest lotus]

Oh

That's ballin.

Thanks.

[gusty wagon]

You can do this with most isos

[forest lotus]

Could I directly take it from 1607 to 22H2?

Using said iso method

[gusty wagon]

Do you need the data inside?

[forest lotus]

No

It's basically empty

[gusty wagon]

23h2, 24h2, sure

These are currently not EoL/EoS

[forest lotus]

The way I gotta do it has to not involve usb's so that iso thing should work

[gusty wagon]

https://pureinfotech.com/install-windows-11-24h2-unsupported-hardware/

[thorn pewter]

boot from sd card

that worked for me

[forest lotus]

I don't have an SD card on hand sadly

[gusty wagon]

Option 2 was what i was referring to

[forest lotus]

I really want to avoid win11

[gusty wagon]

Let's see

[thorn pewter]

what do u have

[forest lotus]

I may put myself onto win10LTSC

[thorn pewter]

i have booted froma external hdd lol

[forest lotus]

As win11 will certainly not work on such a old cpu.

Or if it does will be insanely slow

[forest lotus]

Laptops been upgraded a bit

[swift moss]

chat do we cop

[left dove]

put linux on it

[forest lotus]

In process of doing such without a usb

Need to find optical media or an SD card.

Both of those are actually somehow rare where I am

[gusty wagon]

There you go

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/16397-repair-install-windows-10-place-upgrade.html

[forest lotus]

Much appreciated

[supple gull]

Anyone here buy a CPU from aliexpress?

[plucky frost]

is Phanteks XT View good?

[clear canyon]

nope. I stay away from aliexpress

[gusty wagon]

I want to buy one

Probably an e5 with 14 cores

[frail topaz]

i did

[supple gull]

I bought like 10 peripherals and they all arrived perfectly, but the ONE TIME I buy a CPU it uses the most garbage shipping company ever, and it’s not looking good

[frail topaz]

i bought one of them, E5-2680V4

[gusty wagon]

Oh! I've looked at that sku before. The motherboard options were $20-$40

[clear canyon]

yeah I just dont trust aliexpress, its too risky for me

[frail topaz]

Perfectly fine little thing, geniune intel and all

[rugged sand]

What's the most anyone should ever spend on a pc?

[frail topaz]

depends on your budget

[plucky frost]

$127

[rugged sand]

No budget

[plain cypress]

assuming 5090 at msrp, $3k

[sleek ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[gusty wagon]

if you want me to list... 16TB RAID10

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XtnmNz

Wow a 4090 is >200% the msrp!?

What the fuck in the world is happening right now?

[gusty wagon]

@rugged sand

[rugged sand]

How's this? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RzfMMC

[gusty wagon]

I wouldn't pick a 50 series card right now

The chassis is too big for myself and i don't trust icue

[rugged sand]

So no liquid coolers?

[forest lotus]

Custom loop or bust

I mean 10k for a PC might as well go all in bro

[rugged sand]

Do I need allat storage tho?

[forest lotus]

Why not

[rugged sand]

That's 48 tb

[forest lotus]

Why not have 16TB of raid 10

[forest lotus]

If properly raided it's 16TB iirc

Cause

Redundancy.

[stoic nova]

Bottom intakes got some shoes

[rugged sand]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XtnmNz https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RzfMMC

Which one is more worth it?

[forest lotus]

Upper.

Imo

[formal sonnet]

3rd party seller who appears to be capitalizing on the market.

[ripe sable]

Is a low cl important for ram?

[left dove]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-tired-gif-1431586348144406167

It is time to SLEEP

Goodnight dorks, pls behave

or don't, I'm not your mom

[gusty wagon]

No

[thorn pewter]

[gusty wagon]

You're going to spend 10k, might as well get microcenter to do clc for you

[gusty wagon]

skelpar

[rugged sand]

How does that work?

[gusty wagon]

hey guys i want full custom watercooling

[rugged sand]

Behold the beast https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rKq6Nz

[gusty wagon]

j2c is a good channel for clc if you want to do it yourself

[gusty wagon]

X3D is better for gaming because of cache and cross-complex latency

I'm not sure if windows scheduler has been optimised for 2-complex chips at this point

[forest lotus]

They did fix it

And if not process lasso is here to save the day

[gusty wagon]

Anticheat hates process lasso though

[forest lotus]

Ahh shii

[rugged sand]

-$10,000

[forest lotus]

@gusty wagon was able to get win10 1607 to install using the iso mount method. Thanks

The 14 year old laptop lives to see another day lmfao

I mean free office laptop is nice

[rugged sand]

what laptop

[forest lotus]

My Toshiba

I got it free. As the previous owners needed it's HDD destroyed.

I've completed my quest. Bring the crappiest laptop to my college class.

Others have Dell's MacBooks and surfaces. And I have my motherfucking 14 year old toshiba

[thorn pewter]

send pic

[true stirrup]

If it works it works ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[forest lotus]

Exatclyyyyy

[rugged sand]

buy missing key ebay

[forest lotus]

Nah

ATP I'd replace it's entire kb

It works.

Even without the m key.

And if I really wanted

[rugged sand]

Any ways to make this setup better? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RzfMMC

[forest lotus]

I could buy a whole new laptop for little over $70cad.

Old Toshiba's are stupid cheap

[supple tide]

Is this too much

[forest lotus]

Could.

[rugged sand]

Not enough

[forest lotus]

Ehh I'd say it should be okay

[rugged sand]

Use the whole tube

[true stirrup]

That PSU is a joke right?

[supple tide]

less is better than more in this case right?

[rugged sand]

no?

[forest lotus]

It's. A balance

That should be enough.

A little extra doesn't tend to hurt tho

[true stirrup]

Gold 1000W is already more than enough for your build

[rugged sand]

I didn't build it

[ripe spire]

Fun fact, I watch YouTube on my Alexa when I’m trying to sleep, but I have a shortcut on my phone that tells Alexa in a voice similar to mine to open YouTube for me so irl me doesn’t have to do anything, especially helpful right now as I have a sore throat 😂

[rugged sand]

They said it's for future proofing

[true stirrup]

Titanium grade as a whole is just a pricing scam and 1600W is legit more than enough if you were to run 2 5090s at full power and the entire system at full power and you would still have headroom

[true stirrup]

You got scammed

[plucky frost]

looks alright

i have rx 7900 xt and i7 14700k i am using 750watt psu

[rugged sand]

I didn't buy it yet

[true stirrup]

Scrap that PSU

[ripe spire]

To be fair, the kids tryna get the most powerful combo of cpu and gpu, it’s not unbelievable that he might spend ~600 usd on a psu

[rugged sand]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V7pjRV

[true stirrup]

9800x3D is a 120W CPU
5090 is a 600W GPU
= 720W

[ripe spire]

It hurts that you’re trying to put such nice specs into an NZXT case 😭

[ripe spire]

Technically yeah, but the dude clearly has money, the point is he can get a rly op power supply and it’s not a problem, he does technically have room to upgrade in the future ig

[rugged sand]

Someone is helping me put it together I didn't do that

[true stirrup]

Much better and get yourself something else nice for the money you saved

[rugged sand]

Monitor and camera

What case should I get?

[true stirrup]

That's personal preference

[ripe spire]

Corsair obsidian 1000D 😂

[rugged sand]

iyo

[true stirrup]

Get what looks good to you

[ripe spire]

Nah bc some cases have better airflow, with such power hungry components, he might wanna focus on case a little bit to make sure it has good airflow

[rugged sand]

I like this, but idk what is a good choice https://www.amazon.com/HAVN-Dual-Chamber-Vertical-SimpliCable-Management/dp/B0DDCNTBFS?sr=8-5-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9tdGY&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl&btn_ref=srctok-3ae2a910003ab1ab

[plucky frost]

i would get noctua nt h2

thermal paste

[ripe spire]

Why the Corsair aio?

[true stirrup]

It will be a couple degrees difference, it's not that bad unless you are really trying to push your hardware

[plucky frost]

just make sure it has alright airflow, my case is shit for airflow and it is noticable in performance

[ripe spire]

Do u not think he’s gonna try and push his hardware, dude might try and get that 4k 240hz monitor from msi, a bit more wattage from psu for room to try and oc and a bit better cooling might make the build more stable

[true stirrup]

If the GPU he will get even allows high enough power increases

Otherwise it's a 600W GPU

[ripe spire]

That sucks, put ur pc outside ig so u can avoid thermal throttling

[plucky frost]

i have the entire front panel off so its a dust magnet now

[ripe spire]

Technically he had a kinda point earlier with the f word, he likely either:

1. Will upgrade gpu every time a new best card comes out
2. Upgrades when a gpu comes out that significantly outperforms his current one (e.g. probably a card by then will have a tdp of a much higher wattage)

[ripe spire]

Yikes, could u get a massive dust filter as a replacement for the side panel?

That’s a good point tho, thermal throttling bc ur pc a dusty mf maybe

[true stirrup]

Doesn't change the fact that PSU was a complete waste of money

[ripe spire]

We’ve all been there once, 2-3 years ago I wanted a digital storm pc 😭

Not my proudest moment

[rugged sand]

So what could I do to improve this setup further? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rjJzXR

[ripe spire]

Assuming u have unlimited budget, u could get a better 5090

MSI GeForce RTX 5090 Suprim Liquid SOC

[rugged sand]

How is it different?

Also should I get a Ryzen 9 9950X3D isntead of the Ryzen 7 9800X3D?

[ripe spire]

Water cooled graphics card

Watch this https://youtu.be/4L_psS1MVk8?si=rRTunppZ8Vs71kEW

It’s a slimmer card but it’s water cooled so it has its own “aio” looking thing

Much better gpu temps, which is nice to have with such power hungry card

[vivid pendant]

doesnt it techincaly take up more space then a air cooled cuz the aio?

[ripe spire]

Actually Altho that vid shows the last gen liquid cooled gpu but it’s the same idea

[quick hamlet]

i have this wierd system z parition which i cant even open,it was made while i was merging drive d and c
how do i get rid of it

[rugged sand]

I could also get 128GB of ram?

[true stirrup]

It does

[ripe spire]

Yea but u could always get a bigger case or whatever

[ripe spire]

U probably could, why tho

[rugged sand]

idk

64 is fine

[ripe spire]

32 is plenty, if u want a bit more get 64 but u don’t rly need any more than that

[rugged sand]

8 tb of storage is also plenty

[ripe spire]

Christ yes it is plenty

Coming from me who has 4.5tb of storage and I haven’t at all nearly used it all

[rugged sand]

And this? 👆

[vivid pendant]

32 gigs was considered overkile like 4 years ago wasnt it?

[formal swallow]

will this blow up perhaps

[ripe spire]

What r u mostly gonna be doing on it, gaming?

[formal sonnet]

Remove its drive letter via Disk Management.

[rugged sand]

Yeah

pretty much

and editing

[ripe spire]

Okay, a lot changes in tech in 4 years. Like compare the best gpu back then to the best now, 3080ti vs 5090 is a crazy difference

[rugged sand]

I was gonna spend 10k, but I learned that 5k is already overkill and 10k would be nearly impossible unless I got tons of ram and storage or bought a threadripper cpu that isn't even good for gaming.

[ripe spire]

If ur mostly gonna be gaming then yeah 9800X3D

[vivid pendant]

yeah so if you plan on having the pc for 4 or 5 years without upgrading 64 would be fine

[vivid pendant]

i can show you how to spend 10k without a threadripper xd

im not that far off

[gusty wagon]

16TB of games

[rugged sand]

And have it actually be worth it?

[ripe spire]

10k is plenty achievable if u wanna way overspend on a prebuilt 😂

[vivid pendant]

[vivid pendant]

you can do it building your own pc

[rugged sand]

How?

[vivid pendant]

mine is about 7k

[rugged sand]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rjJzXR

[ripe spire]

Yeah but it’s much easier to overspend on an expensice prebuilt brand

[true stirrup]

I don't understand why you keep insisting on 1600W titanium PSU

[rugged sand]

Because I have to spend more money

[ripe spire]

Have a look at the lian li 011 dynamic or, hell, even the obsidian 1000D I mentioned

[vivid pendant]

then why no msi godlike motherboard hm?

if you want to spend money why not a 1200 usd motherboard .-.

[rugged sand]

I didn't make the list

what's it called

[ripe spire]

Get the Corsair obsidian 1000D bro, u could fit 4 AIOs in that case, u can definitely fit 2 in there, one for cpu and one for gpu with the msi suprim liquid soc

[vivid pendant]

Haf 700 evo is more modern and can fit the same

[ripe spire]

Oh yeah the MSI MEG X870E GODLIKE

[vivid pendant]

xd already with some editing

[rugged sand]

I like the way this one looks, do you have one that looks similar?

in black doh

[elder quarry]

That’s like nzxt h9 flow

[rugged sand]

edit this list to make it better https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rjJzXR

[vivid pendant]

i am

[rugged sand]

oh nice

[elder quarry]

There is nzxt h9 flow in black

[ripe spire]

Nah, I have the phanteks G360A

[vivid pendant]

you want to spend 10k? i got you it will be 10k

[ripe spire]

Don’t just randomly slap on a threadripper

[rugged sand]

No it doesn't have to be 10k, just the best pc it can be

[vivid pendant]

im not

[rugged sand]

I dont want a random threadripper

[true stirrup]

Custom loop time

[elder quarry]

go with nzxt h6/h9 (depending on which you like the most) flow

[vivid pendant]

a lot of the price is storage, with a 5090 you can easily record in 4k and that will eat storage

[rugged sand]

oh dang so many options

[rugged sand]

I think 8 tb is plenty

[vivid pendant]

not for 4k

[rugged sand]

is it not?

[vivid pendant]

no

[elder quarry]

Super upvoting this

[drowsy flame]

Does bjoolz ever hang out here in tech chat or does he just show up in tech support to be the ultimate Chad and then leave without a trace?

[rugged sand]

alright slap some more on then

[vivid pendant]

60 fps takes about 20-40 gigs an hour

so 240 fps.. yeah 4 times that

[rugged sand]

This is a 10k pc also https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rKq6Nz

[vivid pendant]

you could eat 8tb in 2 days

[rugged sand]

Bruh WHAT?

[drowsy flame]

9800X3D is actually better in gaming than the 9950X because of the L3 cache size

[forest lotus]

i find it eternally funny no matter what i use this laptop is bound to be eternally slow, even on ethernet its still only able to move a grand 50MB/s

[quick hamlet]

not getting an option to

[vivid pendant]

yeah 4k 240 fps can easily use 120-160 gigs an hour

why do you think youtubers have like petabytes of storage like linus xd

[formal sonnet]

Screenshot your whole Disk Management screen showing all disks / partitions / drive letters.

[rugged sand]

Well 14 year old laptop has it's perks. You learn patience 🙇

[vivid pendant]

bad

[vivid pendant]

corsair andd their bad cables

[forest lotus]

if i need anything fast i have my desktop it laps this thing 100 fold

[rugged sand]

You should see how well shell shockers runs on that thing

[ripe spire]

@rugged sand https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CBybRV double check the compatibility warnings tho

[formal sonnet]

huh. Weird. Might have to use administrator CMD prompt to hide the drive letter.

WARNING: YOU CAN IRRECOVERABLY LOSE DATA IF YOU DO THIS WRONG. ALWAYS HAVE A BACKUP OF IMPORTANT DATA.

https://superuser.com/questions/1114093/how-to-hide-efi-partition

[drowsy flame]

1 single uncompressed frame of 4k video can be about 24.9mb, compressed you can get that down quite a bit but 4k 240fps streaming is gonna use a LOT of data

[rugged sand]

it says $3.6k

[forest lotus]

tho this thing is pretty responsive for a pentuim dual core with an ssd.

[ripe spire]

Some of the prices r missing, if u look closely

It’s missing the price of the cpu cooler and the graphics card

[rugged sand]

Wait what did you do differently?

oh nevermind

I see

[ripe spire]

The gpu alone is about 4k ish usd

[rugged sand]

Can you type in the approximite price for the missing items?

[ripe spire]

^

About 150usd to cpu cooler

[vivid pendant]

@rugged sand do you have monitors?

[rugged sand]

Nah

[vivid pendant]

this is before monitors

[rugged sand]

bro what did you do to it??

[vivid pendant]

do you like ultra wide?

[rugged sand]

Erm idk

[vivid pendant]

you will see when im done xd half of these are parts i am using

[rugged sand]

I've only ever gamed on a laptop before tbh. And a small monitor with a $500 pc.

I'm getting the biggest upgrade ever XD.

[vivid pendant]

do you play in a dark enviorment or a bright enviorment

[rugged sand]

Both

[ripe spire]

This includes monitors https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FWybRV

[rugged sand]

I think it's healthier to play in the light

[ripe spire]

But doesn’t include about ~4200usd for gpu and cpu bc the prices r missing for some reason

[rugged sand]

Pins - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YFHfxg
Pins with monitors - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BjLCZc

[vivid pendant]

with 2 monitors

[vivid pendant]

you can manually add the prices

[rugged sand]

It's gonna take me 8 months to make 10k 💀

[ripe spire]

Wasn’t bothered 😭

[vivid pendant]

both same size monitors/same brand so the match both oled, one is 4k one is 1440

[rugged sand]

I feel like it would be cool to get one big curved monitor and have it split into 3 monitors so the edges of each "screen" are non-existant

[ripe spire]

My choices of monitors r a total of ~2600 usd bc they’re both 32” 0.03ms response time, 4k 240hz, qd-oled monitors

[ripe spire]

G9

[rugged sand]

Why not both 4k?

[vivid pendant]

if you ever play competetively your going to want the higher fps

do you prefer 27 inch or 32 inch monitors if you had to say?

(Both are probably around 2 times the size of your laptops monitor)

[ripe spire]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tRHqqs/samsung-odyssey-g9-g93sc-490-5120-x-1440-240-hz-curved-monitor-ls49cg932snxza

[vivid pendant]

assuming normal sized laptop

[ripe spire]

That’s what I put

[vivid pendant]

the g9 doesnt like some games

but if he wants to play competively like actualy competetively he will want the fps 1440 can give

[ripe spire]

Use amd eyefinity and make it so windows sees it as multiple monitors

[rugged sand]

Would it be more laggy to do it that way?

[vivid pendant]

fair

[ripe spire]

It’s basically the same as the 2 msi monitors, just all combined into one monitor

[rugged sand]

Is that good?

[ripe spire]

U can bc u have amd cpu so u can open amd Adrenalin to do so

[ripe spire]

It’s all up to personal preference

Do u want one big monitor or do u want one big one

[rugged sand]

I don't have a preferance tho bc I never bought a monitor

[vivid pendant]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x2T4Zc

the case can handle 6 top fans 3 back 3 bottom and 4 side (has 2 200mms in the front)

1440p 480hz for competetive gameplay 240hz 4k for smooth cinematic gameplay

these are currently hard to find

so could always pick different fans

[rugged sand]

Idk if I'm a fan of the case

[vivid pendant]

one sec

[vivid pendant]

what about this

[rugged sand]

I like the way this looks

in black tho

[vivid pendant]

if you want good temps dont get a fishcase vertical mount case

[ripe spire]

What size r those fans dog, u gonna need to tie the pc down so it doesn’t fly off

[vivid pendant]

120mm

[ripe spire]

The front ones?

[vivid pendant]

fishtake cases always underperform temperature wise vrs normal cases

the front 2 included fans are 200mm

[rugged sand]

Won't the temps still be decent?

[vivid pendant]

not with the founders edition

it hits 90 degress on the vram in an open air test bench

[ripe spire]

I still firmly stand by my recommendation of Corsair obsidian 1000D

[cyan bay]

finally saw a 4090

[vivid pendant]

if your going double aio
you cant use a fish tank case

you dont have the room for it

[rugged sand]

Idk if I like the way it looks tho

[ripe spire]

Don’t get founders edition with that case, get the msi liquid soc

[rugged sand]

Noted

[vivid pendant]

the aios will interfear

[ripe spire]

It’ll be so much easier to build in tho, and it has plenty of room for all the aios u need

[vivid pendant]

there is not enough clearance in 90% of cases like this for 2 aios

[ripe spire]

With the case I recommended, they won’t, or at least in theory they shouldn’t

[vivid pendant]

in the corsair its fine

[rugged sand]

what does 2 aios mean?

[elder quarry]

Buy!

[vivid pendant]

2 all in one liquid coolers

you want the best temps aio does give the best

[rugged sand]

Ah ok

[vivid pendant]

aio gpu

[rugged sand]

Could you send more cases that WOULD work for the 2 aios?

[vivid pendant]

yes

[ripe spire]

Exactly, the Corsair obsidian 1000D is a clear choice for this calibre of build, it’ll be easier to build in due to its sheer size, it could even support 2 PCs inside it if u wanted to, it has pretty good cooling just bc of sheer number of fans etc etc, there’s no way there’s a better case for this situation, to miss out on this would be an inconvenience for urself, regardless of if u like the way it looks

[elder quarry]

MANY

[cyan bay]

my broke ahh cant even afford a 300usd gpu yet alone a 2kusd one😞

[ripe spire]

Yes, the card itself is slimmer too

[ripe spire]

Try 4k usd with a liquid cooled 5090

[vivid pendant]

do you like this?

[rugged sand]

Dang 11k is pricy, at least that's WITH monitors lol.

[rugged sand]

I f with that

[elder quarry]

Phanteks nv3

[vivid pendant]

thats not including desk plus chairs

[cyan bay]

I dont like 5090

[rugged sand]

true

[vivid pendant]

let me edit the list

[rugged sand]

I have a desk right now, but I can always ugrade later

[ripe spire]

Why not, tell me why u don’t like the 5090 without saying the price

[rugged sand]

Umm I like it because of the price

[ripe spire]

Welcome to 2025 where we talk, not about upgrading pc components, but about upgrading desks

[rugged sand]

👍

[supple tide]

is there anyone who can guide me to just putting my mobo and psu in my case?

[rugged sand]

YouTube 👍

[elder quarry]

Look up phanteks nv3, nv5 and nv9 as well

[supple tide]

it’s a matx case so it’s weird

[elder quarry]

No?

[ripe spire]

https://youtu.be/s1fxZ-VWs2U?si=nugmMXh9V1HcM_m3

https://youtu.be/DC-Xn2C_L1U?si=KOPIe-2YFN8fBlhU

[vivid pendant]

do you like this look or

which one do you prefer?

[elder quarry]

💸

[rugged sand]

Are they rgb?

[vivid pendant]

yes

[rugged sand]

I want the cpu cooler and fans to be rgp so I can color match my setup

[rugged sand]

the blue ones

[vivid pendant]

ok