tech-chat-1

[rugged sand]

Gaming and editing, I just want an overkill PC I never have to upgrade.

[oblique terrace]

One USB port ...

[frank forum]

a usb port is a usb port tho

[rugged sand]

You could plug in one of those things that give you more usb ports

[frank forum]

I used to rock a Intel xeon in my PC a couple years back

[pliant tartan]

just get like 4 hubs and daisy chain, ez

[vapid ibex]

That's crazy

[rugged sand]

So what should I get?

[frank forum]

What u using it for is the main question

[rugged sand]

Gaming

[frank forum]

Ahh right so not a threadripper tbf maybe then

[oblique terrace]

I had 2 Xeon x5650s in a build

[frank forum]

I had a intel xeon e3-1240 that is found for like £5 these days, E-Waste at that point

[rugged sand]

isn't that like $10,000?

[frank forum]

depends on the threadripper

[oblique terrace]

If I find a dual LGA 1366 that supports DDR4 I'm building a Xeon Monster

[jaunty moat]

Toxic I think think I'd be good to go through like a PC company to get your PC

[rugged sand]

Yeah I just dunno what to buy bc I've never built a pc before

[frank forum]

it was a Xeon 1240 V5 with a MSI GTX 970 modded drivers to perform like a 1080ti for a couple years

[rugged sand]

Yeah but it's cheaper and more fun to built it myself

[empty quartz]

finally updated my pcpartpicker list for my setup

[jaunty moat]

True but they can make sure its the best it can be

Go through like ztt builds X3

[rugged sand]

I'll do a ton of research before I build it, and ask here for help. I mainly just dunno what to get for parts. But yeah I can get it built for me if I need.

[mortal fossil]

heres what i did

[frank forum]

im surprised u didnt say NZXT for a second i was worried u was gonna say NZXT

[mortal fossil]

spend a gew days making your own pc list

and then come back here and let other people rip apart your list and make you a better one

[empty quartz]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/AltTab7/saved/9RjMFT chat, rate the setup. Prices are in canadian dollars

[cosmic stratus]

Is it ok to buy gpus off alibaba

[rugged sand]

That makes sense.

[frank forum]

I gave this to my mum for her PC after i upgraded but what a gpu it served for me

[mortal fossil]

came here with an rx 7600 and (not) left with a 7700 xt

[empty quartz]

yes and no

[pine ingot]

Hey is it possible to makemy laptop a second monitor

[jaunty moat]

I'm fully aware of all their practices I would never recommend them

[cosmic stratus]

scammy?

[frank forum]

Ahh fair enough

[empty quartz]

do you know how to solder?

[mortal fossil]

yea but you get what you paid for

[cosmic stratus]

Use software called space desk

[empty quartz]

you have to be careful, sometimes listings can be scammy

[mortal fossil]

yes

[pine ingot]

No, I'm assuming that the only way

[cosmic stratus]

why the X

[mortal fossil]

using a remote pc thing

[pine ingot]

I use linux so I cant

[empty quartz]

yeah

[cosmic stratus]

is that not on linux

[empty quartz]

dont use a sketchy software

[pine ingot]

No. Thought it was when start using mint

It needs drivers to work

So wine can't run it

[cosmic stratus]

damm it isnt

[pine ingot]

Spacedesk is really good though

[cosmic stratus]

Thats literally a well known software tool, what

damm, why no linux support tho

[empty quartz]

"well known"*

[frank forum]

I've never heard of it tbf

[rugged sand]

I want the best gaming PC without going overboard on things I don't need like a Threadripper 7995WX

[cosmic stratus]

its well known if you're someone looking to use another device as a monitor*

[cosmic stratus]

thats a mediocre gaming cpu

[rugged sand]

That's like $10,000 no?

[cosmic stratus]

yes

its not ment for gaming

[rugged sand]

How is it mediocre then

[frank forum]

Listen with 10k ur gonna get a amazing PC for 4k gaming tbf

[rugged sand]

Oh right

[frank forum]

Its meant for servers etc

[empty quartz]

thats being generous

[cosmic stratus]

worst gaming performance than even a 14900k

[cosmic stratus]

wait fr?💀

[rugged sand]

Yh, I just don't wanna buy stuff that isn't worth it, spending the $10,000 the best I can.

[frank forum]

their single threaded score/ single core score is probs bad on it tbf

[empty quartz]

the 7995wx is horrible for gaming

its not meant for gaming

[rugged sand]

So far my list: RTX 5090 founders

[empty quartz]

in the tasks its actually meant for tho... its really good

[cosmic stratus]

well ofc its not ment for gaming but, "horrible"? the performance wasnt that far off from some gaming cpus so its not that bad, thats why I said mediocre

im referring to the vids where linus tried to game on it

[rugged sand]

Isn't it for 3d rendering or something

[cosmic stratus]

using a cpu as a gpu

[empty quartz]

its common knowledge that a workstation cpu is not good for gaming

[cosmic stratus]

I mean eventually, cpus may have enough cores for that

[rugged sand]

I don't know anything about this...

That's why I am here XD

[formal sonnet]

Literally impossible. All technology eventually must be upgraded. Instead of seeking to drop $10K on a computer because "$10K", think about what you need to use the computer for, then build appropriately.

[cosmic stratus]

right

[frank forum]

especially with UE5 games these days bloody hell

[cosmic stratus]

watch amd release another 10k cpu

after building that pc lmfao

[rugged sand]

Well yeah after like 5 years I COULD upgrade it, but it's overkill enough where it could last me forever.

[empty quartz]

@formal sonnet https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/AltTab7/saved/9RjMFT rate the setup

[frank forum]

if UE6 ever comes out our PC's are toast for a long time 😭 🙏

[empty quartz]

no

[formal sonnet]

It's not $10K so it's bad. /s

[cosmic stratus]

UE5 is HORRIBLE on vega cards holly shit

[rugged sand]

Optimized for gaming, and then it will still probably be good enough for editing. But I mostly need it for gaming.

[cosmic stratus]

just 70fps on low settings marvel rivals

💀

[empty quartz]

😭

[oblique terrace]

I just took a bath... Now the neighbors pissed because his hot tub is a different color

[frank forum]

is that with frame gen or nah? lmao

[rugged sand]

You could probably spend $30,000 on a pc if you hate money.

[cosmic stratus]

raw raster

[frank forum]

bloody hell

[cosmic stratus]

also frame gen on vega cards is ASS

[frank forum]

ye true

[cosmic stratus]

stuttery as shit

infact it breaks the fps and it gets stuck at 40

😭

[rugged sand]

Could you send your recommendation for a $10,000 PC build? With room to spend more money if it needs\ better cooling or something?

[frank forum]

Also why u rocking a vega card? just to test some games on it?

[cosmic stratus]

with the same low settings btw

[formal sonnet]

Seriously though. I mean. It's a $2K PC build. 32GB memory, 13th gen i5, mid-to-high-er end motherboard, good SSD, ... lots of small HDDs?, glorious ML fans. Tis fine.

[cosmic stratus]

no im just poor and so I bought a vega 57 for 79$ its roughly equivalent to a 3060 after a bit of tweaking, great value for money

[frank forum]

If ur actually rocking a vega card i respect it

[rugged sand]

How old you is?

[cosmic stratus]

was... I just sold it a few days ago for 90$

[frank forum]

I was rocking a msi 3060 12gb tbf

[empty quartz]

$2,000 cad, but the system itself is like 1500 cad

[cosmic stratus]

17 but im like 17.9

[frank forum]

Profit is profit

[cosmic stratus]

yea the 12gb card specifically

[rugged sand]

Get a job at mcdonalds and save for like 8 months

That's what imma do

[cosmic stratus]

Ill work at IT, trust

[formal sonnet]

#1106613567966429224 is where you would go for things like this, however, you'll want to include details about what you want from this PC, and ideally have looked at other builds to get an idea for yours. PC Part Picker is relatively good for this. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/builds/

[frank forum]

exactly now im rocking a 7800xt

[cosmic stratus]

I have amazing troubleshooting skills

[rugged sand]

Makes sense, thank you 👍

[cosmic stratus]

im just bought a 5700xt 8gb for 99$ 🔥

[rugged sand]

Is that good?

[frank forum]

I spent 1.2k for this PC since i wanted 1440p gaming

[cosmic stratus]

very, its like 20% faster than the 3060 and is essentially the same gpu in the ps5 if I recall correctly

[rugged sand]

I have a $500 pc my dad gave me since he works at a tech company, it runs fine. I'm gonna save for that $10,000 PC and spoil myself 🙂

[balmy tapir]

basically a 2070

[jaunty moat]

I'll never have as much luck as I did with buying my PC I got it for 300 dollars and the CPU alone is worth 300 😭

[frank forum]

bros gonna game at 4k tbf gotta respect it

[cosmic stratus]

my pc is like 250$ with the vega card in it, it will still be less than 300$ with the 5700xt inside

[frank forum]

dw my build used to be worth like £400 max

the gpu cost at least 10x the cpu

[rugged sand]

$10,000 is overkill ik, I could get a car, but I already have an old one. And don't care for a better one.

[cosmic stratus]

its amazinf value and the xeon upgrades are so cheap lmao

[frank forum]

I was rocking a xeon that couldnt be upgraded since the socket 😭

[mortal fossil]

apparently swapping my pc to am5 would cost 300$ more (including shipping)

[rugged sand]

Well I got like 8 months to learn about pc stuff, that's probably enough time.

[mortal fossil]

isnt xeon the one processor that can be dual chipped

[cosmic stratus]

You know dell optiplex upgrades? will I did the same but wirh a work station grade dell precision t5810, it costed 100$ came with a 1650v4 and 32gb of ram

[delicate geode]

i came from a AMD 5700xt and i used to use the amd relive software to clip stuff. it was so much better than the nvidia instant replay that i use now with my 4080super. idk wtf is wrong but i turn it on and all my frames completely start stuttering every second... any solutions? i looked it up and no one has found any idk what to do

[mortal fossil]

plenty

[cosmic stratus]

lmao

[frank forum]

the cpu i used to rock is worth £5 on ebay these days

[vapid ibex]

That's very good ngl

[cosmic stratus]

I got the fastest budget xeon. with a 1680v3 overclocked to 4.3ghz, its roughly in performance with a 2600x

[cosmic stratus]

yea and these work station pc come with a hotswap high power psu and PROPER POWER CONNECTORS

[tall shale]

should i upgrade my nvme drives to a Nytro 4350 or keep them as 970 evo plus ( if i did change them id use the old ones for my nas )

[vapid ibex]

Wait I remember talking to u the other day I'm the guy with the 2697 v4

[cosmic stratus]

ahh nice

[rugged sand]

I'm probably gonna dissect my $500 pc to learn how to build it.

[jaunty moat]

I have the itch to flip PCs on Facebook marketplace

🐧

[vapid ibex]

I have the itch to install Linux but Nvidia drivers and Wayland shit

[cosmic stratus]

you should use OBS with a hotkey fr

[balmy tapir]

both of those are false tbh

[delicate geode]

never thought of that

[balmy tapir]

the only real issue with nvidia drivers is the open source one is mid, and wayland is pretty solid now

[delicate geode]

is it possible to download the radeon software and clip with that? i have a 4080s and 9800x3d

[cosmic stratus]

thats not even the best solution

[delicate geode]

what is then

[junior kiln]

The copium I am seeing about the 50 series cards feels like the Cybertruck. just a lot of people really trying to feel better about their purchase

[cosmic stratus]

there are tons of recording software for you exact use case, search it up lol

[delicate geode]

i dont want shitty ones like medal tho

[frank forum]

the 5070ti performing 1% better than a 7900xtx in 4k 😭 🙏

[delicate geode]

i wish that the instant replay wasnt so fking dogshit

[cosmic stratus]

Wait I was actually gonna suggest that

[hallow flame]

Who can target PUBG? I'm already scared by cheats

[cosmic stratus]

whats wrong with medal?

[vapid ibex]

Nope Wayland shits itself

[delicate geode]

so bad for ur pc remember from like 2020

everyone said it was dogahh

[flint forge]

use obs

[delicate geode]

alr is OBS prolly then best bet

[cosmic stratus]

also the greatest solution is OBS replay buffer, idk how that works but everyone says its the best from a few google searches

[flint forge]

yh

[junior kiln]

the userbenchmark so far rate the 5070ti like 11% better... idk if that is worth anyones money lol

[delicate geode]

alr alr

thank you guys

[frank forum]

Ive seen some other things about it

[balmy tapir]

just be better 🤷‍♂️ been using wayland for years lol

[rugged sand]

I applied for arby's through my city arby's website and got to another verification and it said to select my abry's city and it was the only one in the state not on there for some reason.

[frank forum]

@junior kiln idk to trust it but ye

[vapid ibex]

Fym be better the problem Is the os not me

[cosmic stratus]

Imma get a platform upgrade to am4 or am5 for my birthday in march, imma go to microcentre

[junior kiln]

I dont know about the 5070ti specifically, but I wouldnt touch the 50 series with a 10 foot pole after the kind of technical issues people are reporting. e.g. strange firmware issues (like Jayztwocents reported) or it being literal cable meltdown

[frank forum]

Also the 50 series not having 32 bit PhysX is absolute bs

[junior kiln]

this too

[frank forum]

like Borderlands 2 what if people wanted to play that?

[cosmic stratus]

Lol remember when amd was the one with driver issues? now its nvidia

[frank forum]

bloody 20fps max on 4k if they try to actually have the physics do it thing

[junior kiln]

Yeah there is a lot of modern games that are going to be unplayable for those who have a 50 series. Like, in what world is that an upgrade

[cosmic stratus]

thats just early adopter issues

[junior kiln]

I guess there comes a time you actually need that second PCIE slot on your mobo 😂

[balmy tapir]

😭 just do better, what issues are you having with waylnad

[junior kiln]

I dont know man, I mean you could say that but that is a VERY big early adopter issue, it still doesnt address the physical problems these cards are having

[cosmic stratus]

honestly I was very annoyed looking for am4 mobos online bc they only had one extra slot lmao (my dell precision t5810 has 4 PCIE slots)

[junior kiln]

genuinely, who is using or what purpose do those extra slots serve?

[cosmic stratus]

wifi cards, drives, etc

[junior kiln]

I say this bc I know there are industry applications im just not aware of

[junior kiln]

Wifi cards??? in 2025?

[cosmic stratus]

yes

[frank forum]

Most mobos already have wifi in them

[cosmic stratus]

a lot of cheap am4 boards dont come with it, often low cards

[frank forum]

especially if ur rocking a 50 series card ur gonna have a mobo with built in Wifi for sure

[cosmic stratus]

oh hou see im too poor for that

[junior kiln]

I was gonna say, my speeds when im not on hardwire were still sufficient for me

My mobo essentially give or take just under $100.. I still have wifi

[frank forum]

im running wifi from my mobo rn and its still like 500mbps iirc

[junior kiln]

granted I got discounts and a rebate but still

[cosmic stratus]

also I have a cheap gpu for redundant usage bc I remote to my pc at school, so if my main card fails It will switch gpus and I can trouble shoot from there

im currently usinf a nvs310 bc im "gpuless" unless my 5700xt comes in the mail

[junior kiln]

Still fringe use case for those extra PCIE slots. IS there any real world application for the end consumer or in an industrial application>

[cosmic stratus]

probably

Me personally, I want atleast 3 slots

2 large pcie (lack of term) and 1 by 4 slot

[rugged sand]

If I gave you $1000 right now, what would you spend it on? (PC parts only)

[junior kiln]

Monitors or ram bc thats what I need. probably ram though

[cosmic stratus]

Ill just search for good pcpp lists in thay price range bc im lazy

[junior kiln]

or monitors and ram

[cosmic stratus]

More SSDs?

[junior kiln]

mmm a 2tb ssd mayhaps

[cosmic stratus]

I currently need a pcie to m.2 card bc my mobo has zero m.2 kr nvme

[junior kiln]

2tb ssd, and get my ram count to 128gb with $1k pc parts only money

[cosmic stratus]

im using sata rn

[junior kiln]

I already have both my pcie slots filled so im good on that end, they are plenty speedy, I just need a place for the insane amount of data photos take and vidjya games

[frank forum]

i mean u gotta get that one has 16 nvme slots iirc

[junior kiln]

RAW photo backups*

[junior kiln]

That has to be some kind of server application because who the hell needs that many

[frank forum]

fun

[latent pasture]

not even servers have that many

most of them use the other type of storage
the big one that isnt sata

and have only a couple for boot drive

[junior kiln]

For consumer gamer market, I am seeing the AsSRock Z790 Nova has six NVME

[cosmic stratus]

im too poor for that many ssds lmfao

[junior kiln]

More realistic

[latent pasture]

for consumer gamer market even $110 mobos alr have 3 nvme which is more than most ppl need

[cosmic stratus]

right.. my poor ass is only gonna use one for like a year before I deside to buy another

[junior kiln]

im still trying to figure out why a mobo needs more than a couple of pcie slots. I would wager that the vast majority, even as far as to say almost every user of a mobo does not ever touch or need, or use an extra slot. which is just e-waste manufacturing since that plastic, copper, and whatever other materials in there could have probably been put to better use

[cosmic stratus]

for users like me lol

[junior kiln]

Like you mentioned wifi cards but most mobos have decent wifi in them already, so that seems like an age issue. I had one in like 2008 and that was the last time I thought about them. Then theres fringe use cases like switching gpus but most users wont even touch a settings menu let alone need a second card for different applications which leaves what reasons since SLI will never be real again

[cosmic stratus]

ofc majority wont need more than 2

[cosmic stratus]

decent---

I want fast, not decent

Im not close enough for ethernat sadly

[junior kiln]

If you are that dedicated and willing to invest resources into WIFI, you have enough dedication and willpower to run an ethernet cable to your PC

[cosmic stratus]

right...

[junior kiln]

let me look at the speed of the wifi on my mobo since i think a $100 mobo is a good baseline

[cosmic stratus]

well I would still want an extra slot incase I decide to use another pcie device

also I have very slow gpu for redundancy since I remote to pc for usage at school

[junior kiln]

What devices, thats what I mean. Like what is the purpose other than extremely fringe use cases where there are not already better solutions

[cosmic stratus]

Capture cards

[junior kiln]

Okay, theres a real answer. capture cards. still most wont ever need a third or fourth slot ever

[cosmic stratus]

if im playing a heavy graphic game I want zero performance overhead when recording

[cosmic stratus]

I know most, but we're talking about the nich users

like me!

[patent sparrow]

im playing ets2 with 3060ti

should i upgrade it

[cosmic stratus]

may extrea usb C or thunderbolt cards

i/o cards

[mortal fossil]

capture cards are for consoles

[junior kiln]

this leads me to the conclusion that most pcie slots are wasted copper and plastic tbh

[cosmic stratus]

you happy with its current performance?

[cosmic stratus]

it costs almost nothing to add those

[junior kiln]

LOL

[mortal fossil]

iirc

[patent sparrow]

its not too bad except sometimes it will lag
prob caused by faulty vram

[junior kiln]

bro you need to get a 5070ti to run Euro truck sim, do it

[patent sparrow]

how to fix that

[cosmic stratus]

I want zero performance overhead

[mortal fossil]

are you using a console

[cosmic stratus]

Yes upgrade lol

[cosmic stratus]

no

[patent sparrow]

is faulty vram fixable

[junior kiln]

It isnt about cost, its about sustainability lol

[cosmic stratus]

im talking about PC, if my gpu is being maxed out on games, then want another device to record bc then I wont have performance overhead

[mortal fossil]

then you do not need a capture xard

[junior kiln]

I mean its a very tiny issue, dont get me wrong, im just saying. its mostly wasted

[cosmic stratus]

cant just say that lol

[cosmic stratus]

ehh it doesnt hurt to have extra slots

[mortal fossil]

capture cards are for connecting consoles to pcs

not for recording

[junior kiln]

You are over here talking about being too poor to buy $110 mobo but are willing to drop $100 on a pcie capture card

[cosmic stratus]

well I mean a dedicated device to record stuff on my pc with zero performance overhead

[cosmic stratus]

umm yes

it will just take more saving

[junior kiln]

the priorities here are crazy 😭

[frank forum]

gotta respect it tho

[mortal fossil]

yea i cant find any dedicated things abt recording in your pc

[patent sparrow]

my 3060ti flickers even i only opened chrome
how to fix it

[cosmic stratus]

unless you're telling me recording on pc has zero overhead now

[patent sparrow]

[mortal fossil]

did you securely fit cables

[cosmic stratus]

what the

[junior kiln]

What capture card are you using..

[frank forum]

elgato im guessing

[patent sparrow]

checked the cable

[cosmic stratus]

a 5700xt is what I would be using bc im poor I dont have a capture card yet

[mortal fossil]

im

[cosmic stratus]

I want the slot to be available once im ready tho

[patent sparrow]

idk what happened

[cosmic stratus]

you get it?

[junior kiln]

Which card do you have specifically? I am assuming you have already looked well into manufacturer specific driver issues, but worth throwing in the air for ya

[patent sparrow]

its like some parts of the sceen turned black for a few seconds

[cosmic stratus]

try slightly wiggling display connectors and see if the issue shows up again

same for the gpu itself, just slightly

[cosmic stratus]

sometimes just picking up the cable might cause something

[patent sparrow]

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/rtx-3060-ti-oem-acer.296193/ this one

[junior kiln]

It is an incredibly strange priority to me tbh. Like too poor to spend on a better mobo, wifi cards apparently, and capture cards but those are entirely for dual system runs. but you said you have an extra gpu for screen recording specifically, which could just be an old card but its still a $200 card new.

[cosmic stratus]

oo a blower card

[junior kiln]

I mean I respect it, I just think its misplaced lol

[cosmic stratus]

probably

[cosmic stratus]

patience is also a determing factor

[patent sparrow]

tried that
it happened a few months ago
i cleaned the whole pc last week
replugged everything

[cosmic stratus]

oh

[upper agate]

So I just discovered Radeon Super Resolution. Now my RX 6600 runs all the games I play. Forzia Horizon 5, Cyber Punk, Hogwarts Legacy, Diablo 4, Call of duty blackops 6, Doom Eternal. At 100+FPS. If one does not give a crap about ray tracing (To me it just makes floor reflections more vibrant) Im wondering now if I should skip upgrading my GPU

[cosmic stratus]

in some games RTX doesnt make much of a difference

like in most hyper realistic games I see no difference

[junior kiln]

IF you are happy with what you have dont set your sites on everything. just save and wait another generation out imo. rumors are rumors but rumor says inventory, supposedly, in a vacuum, could possibly fill up and in that case, the 30 and 40 series cards would come down in price in second hand markets. in theory.

but overall probably just wait it out and wait for some better rtx cards to actually come down in pricing

[upper agate]

i wanted to upgrade to the 7800xt but it wont stay in stock on amazon for 30 seconds. And the ones that remain in stock are obvious scalpers

[cosmic stratus]

bro😭

[frank forum]

I mean i got mine for £500 days before the 50 series started selling

so i was lucky af

[cosmic stratus]

bruh im scared 9070xt will be sold at a heavily inflated price on the market

[junior kiln]

I think this generation of cards being such a small uplift, my theory is that it would force developers to mature their processes and make ray tracing more efficient in their games since there isnt a cutting edge to chase after tbh. but thats just my assumption

[cosmic stratus]

wont be a 470$ card for long

[junior kiln]

predicition** better word for that

[cosmic stratus]

RTX is supposed to be better for lighting, and better performance but we arnt there yet

only one game is requiring rtx rn

[upper agate]

RTX will work on my rx6600 but it will bring it to its knees

[junior kiln]

I do like how it looks when it is implemented in a good way but rtx is mostly gimicky. ofc i still run it bc i have the damn card, im gonna use the whole card

[cosmic stratus]

right lmao

[junior kiln]

Upscaling methods are all very artifact-y and I notice all of it. like plooth lol

[patent sparrow]

does humidity affects gpu?

[cosmic stratus]

this good for 1400$

[cosmic stratus]

no, it shouldnt

[junior kiln]

uhh not in a failing vram sort of way, I dont think. are you in a humid region like south asia?

[patent sparrow]

good

[cosmic stratus]

actually a gpu is too warm for that lmao

[patent sparrow]

u r correct

[junior kiln]

Okay to be absolutely fair, humidity in South Asia can hit insane dew points but almost certainly still not the answer for their problems lol

[fast marsh]

Can you get usb cable testers? i have a bunch and it would be nice to know the charge and data speeds on the.

[patent sparrow]

90% is common

[cosmic stratus]

Oh mb 💀

[granite sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/dubya-gif-23030610

a second 5090 fire has hit reddit

[junior kiln]

throws 👟

[patent sparrow]

the humidity is 77% rn

[fast marsh]

50 series is for chumps

[cosmic stratus]

ayy we still got a 30% improvement over last year

[junior kiln]

cmon did someone get it cmoonnn

[cosmic stratus]

better than some 15%

[patent sparrow]

ig im gonna buy a new 3060ti/4060ti

[upper agate]

i dont know why they started making GPU's use the 12v high power cable. Just make them with 2 8 pin and call it a day

[junior kiln]

if your card survives, wait til the next amd cards hit the market, I bet they will get so much cheaper

[fast marsh]

i have a 4080 super and there is no way i am getting a 5080

[cosmic stratus]

Save space? I can see why they would use on the founders but on other much larger cards it doesnt make sene

also for some reason there is un even power distribution among the pins for some stupid reason

[patent sparrow]

sure
i think it can survive for another year

just a few glitches should be fine

[cosmic stratus]

did you check your overclocks

[junior kiln]

what have you done so far to try to fix it btw?

[cosmic stratus]

make sure memory oc and core oc are stable

[junior kiln]

Im with linus. lets just start using t60 or t90s lol

[patent sparrow]

replugged it

[cosmic stratus]

unstable memory oc would be the more likely cause

[cosmic stratus]

good old turn it off and back on againel

[patent sparrow]

noted
will check it soon

[patent sparrow]

[cosmic stratus]

yea unstable memory oc can have random artifacts

[junior kiln]

Have you looked up any guides on refreshing your drivers for your specific model?

and long shot, but to add to the OC thing, make sure you didnt toggle any unintentional settings in your BIOS too

[cosmic stratus]

right

[patent sparrow]

downloaded a new driver from nvidia
and the glitches reduced
prob 1 time per week

[cosmic stratus]

try reducing memory clock and see what happens

[upper agate]

If I do snag a 7800xt will my i5 14600kf be a good pair with it?

[patent sparrow]

thanks
will try it later

[cosmic stratus]

at what 1440p

yea thats fine

[junior kiln]

ahh I see. I am NOT qualified to give advice on this but I do know sometimes older graphics drivers can have conflicts with current graphics drivers. There are methods to do complete clean installs of graphics drivers but I have personally never done them and I dont really know if that would be a solution, but it IS worth questioning

its actually one of the things going around for one of the models of 50 series cards atm. jayztwocents has a video talking about graphic driver conflicts

[cosmic stratus]

ahh right try running DDU and THEN re install drivers

[patent sparrow]

ah sounds cool

[patent sparrow]

gonna try that tonight

[junior kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u93OEKcJ4bs&t=173s

this shows the ddu thing, but do your research before you execute anything

[junior kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU0RaRvJ0PQ I am sad no one got it

[red bluff]

Bush had such an opportunity to catch it on the fly

Wasted opportunity.

[granite sundial]

how do i find out what is controlling the rgb on my mouse, i updated to windows 11, got a new pc (but used the same boot drive) and a new monitor

[junior kiln]

Hey look, to be honest, those dodges were impressive still. but yeah, it would have been a great note to end his presidency after catching a shoe lol

[dim steppe]

Anyone know the problem?

[junior kiln]

I think the solution for RGB in nearly every scenario is Signal

[granite sundial]

nvidia app or adrenaline dont control rgb do they

[junior kiln]

Corrupt system startup. you probably gotta load the windows installer onto a USB and do a repair install

[granite sundial]

i dont want to have an rgb control app i just want it off

[dim steppe]

I plugged it in where do I go now?

[junior kiln]

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/i-am-having-issues-with-error-code-0xc0000098/3d3bfcbb-e286-4262-891d-942e9a50f900

[junior kiln]

It looks like Andrenaline does have some rgb control but I havent used AMD's service for it before so I couldnt give guidance myself. I would still end up using Signal to turn it off if I was in that situation and just make sure Signal isnt turned on at startup

if anyone can give better direction, please do

[supple gull]

Does anyone know what this is? Maybe I didn’t look hard enough but I didn’t find anything

I’ve had it connected to that thing on the main cable which is the 4 pin

Idk if it’s supposed to be connected to it, or why

[junior kiln]

rgb fan?

[supple gull]

Ye

That slot that I put it in supports has 4 pins btw

[cosmic stratus]

search up the error code, look for and try the troubleshooting steps for it

[junior kiln]

ohh wait, is this the only connector the fan has?

besides the RGB connector

[supple gull]

Yea just the 2 you can see in the pic

[junior kiln]

If i understand right, the fourth pin on a fan connenector is the one that provides sensor feedback. a 3 pin is just power, signal, ground

so if thats what you have, then you can just plug that in

[supple gull]

I see, I also bought an almost identical fan to put on the other side but that one just has the main 4 pin connector which made me curious

Identical except the connectors

[hallow flame]

Who has written about the development perspective and self sighting of PUBG

[junior kiln]

Yeah I personally do not know why it would have both a 4 pin and a 3 pin connector if that is what you are saying. if you have the 4pin, just plug in the 4 pin and ignore the 3 pin

[limber nacelle]

xt60, xt90

[vapid ibex]

I LOVE ADO bro

[plain cypress]

Why you leaking RDNA5 names

[junior kiln]

absolute unit of a connector

[fast marsh]

Can you get usb cable testers? i have a bunch and it would be nice to know the charge and data speeds they are.

[formal sonnet]

https://www.totalphase.com/products/advanced-cable-tester-v2/

[fast marsh]

LOL, thanks. I'll get two.

[mellow shadow]

SAS is so confusing to me

[formal sonnet]

There's cheaper ones, but many testers just check continuity of wires, not their throughput or signal integrity... https://www.amazon.ca/Treedix-Cable-Checker-Charging-Type-C/dp/B0C6PSGFZP?th=1

[mellow shadow]

Any suggestions for a card I can use to connect all 8 of my sata drives together with this one cable?

[formal sonnet]

https://forums.unraid.net/topic/134554-current-budget-sas-card-for-12-16-8tb-20tb-drives/

[formal sonnet]

I'm unfamiliar with cables that let you connect 8x SAS drives - most SAS cards I've seen use 2x ports that allow 4x drives each. https://www.amazon.ca/9201-8i-Controller-9211-8i-Expander-SFF-8087/dp/B0BVTJPZSG

[mellow shadow]

That cable is for connecting 8 SATA drives

It’s for this abomination

It has 8 SATA ports on the back

[broken saffron]

when does the next mcabook pro release?

[formal sonnet]

I'm unfamiliar with this product, but the user manual should explain how to connect things. Their website is very broken for me though, so I can't even locate the user manual. 😦

[upper abyss]

the 5070ti is 150€ over msrp in my country, dayum

[mellow shadow]

Pretty sure it’s just moving the connector back

Like regular old Sata with nothing fancy going on

I could be wrong but I don’t think I am

[mellow shadow]

Get an AMD card 💔

Please stick it to Jensen

[sinful cobalt]

I know some1 who bought the eagle OC for $1379

SGD*

pretty much MSRP here

[upper abyss]

i cant

[formal sonnet]

Can you provide any of the numbers off this cable? Trying to identify exactly what kind of cable this is...

[frail delta]

Slim SAS

[mellow shadow]

The Amazon link even with the ref= stuff cut off is still super long

They’re all the same

Ok found one with a normal link
https://www.amazon.com/chenyang-SlimSAS-Target-SFF-8654-Controller/dp/B0DQGPS6M9/ref=

Yeah it’s just SlimSAS 8i to 8 SATA

[frail delta]

Yeah I was right

[formal sonnet]

Thank you @frail delta - I've never seen SlimSAS before! So yeah, you'll need a PCIe card capable of using the chonky SFF-8654 8i SAS/SATA connector.

[mellow shadow]

The slimsas cards I’ve found require bifurcation which isn’t an option

[frail delta]

It’s not too often I’m right 🤣

[mellow shadow]

They’re also expensive asf

Huh that’s weird

[frail delta]

Use a different HBA and different cables then

[mellow shadow]

I got the notification about the reaction before it appeared

It did it again

[formal sonnet]

Correct. SAS is getting into server-level type stuff.

[mellow shadow]

Also why are there so many flavors of SAS

[frail delta]

Or just get a regular PCIe SATA expansion card

[mellow shadow]

One cable is cool

[frail delta]

Since I assume you’re not going to be doing hardware RAID

[mellow shadow]

Multiple cables is icky

Hardware or software raid is acceptable

[frail delta]

Put multiple cables in a sleeve, or pay the price

[mellow shadow]

I’m just gonna run truenas so it’s fine

[frail delta]

Hardware RAID is not acceptable

[formal sonnet]

Good <> Cheap <> Fast

Pick 2. (Does not apply to all situations, but it kinda sorta fits here.)

[mellow shadow]

Good
Cheap

[upper abyss]

reminds me of the car triangle

[mellow shadow]

Don’t even get me started on these

What kind of jank ass GPU riser cable is this?

[frail delta]

@mellow shadow

[mellow shadow]

2 cable 🙁

Wonder what happens if I put this in that card

[formal sonnet]

You can't - the connector won't fit.

[frail delta]

It wouldn’t fit

[mellow shadow]

Oh that’s a different version of SAS

I’ve seen ones that use slimsas

[frail delta]

Yes but those are likely proper RAID cards and you’ve said they’re too expensive

[mellow shadow]

And this is why SAS is stinky

Just gimme my 8 Sata drives over 1 cable

[formal sonnet]

That's exactly what SAS is... you can not like this or the price, but that doesn't change how it works.

[queen quiver]

guys my ps4 stop displaying stuff do u got anything u think can fix it?

[mellow shadow]

Until proven otherwise SAS is the 2nd stinkiest modern standard

[upper abyss]

did you try putting in/pullong out the HDMI cable a few times?

[queen quiver]

i switched the cables after

[flint forge]

try diff monitor?

[queen quiver]

i only got one

[upper abyss]

maybe try moving the cable a lil, my port once had the same issue

[queen quiver]

ok i found a old cable and it works now

[upper abyss]

alr

[midnight siren]

Why don't I see hardware accelerated gpu scheduling when I go in the graphic settings in windows 10 ??????

[mellow shadow]

I’ve given up on SAS that shit ain’t for me at all

https://www.amazon.com/Expansion-16-Port-Controller-Adapter-8-Port/dp/B0CDL27C25/ref=

Now that the SATA issue has been taken care of I need to adjust my build

[red bluff]

is this a 12 volt high power cable 2.0?

what kind of twisted cable is this

eight 8 pin to 24vhpwr?

[junior kiln]

What in particular has been bad for you in your experience? I am right in the assumption when you say SAS, you mean like a NAND drive, right?

[formal sonnet]

#tech-chat-1 message

[wheat field]

Is anyone here familiar with server maintenance?

[formal sonnet]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[wheat field]

There's six drives that keep failing and going out of raid

And I can't figure out why? I think it could be the fan-out cable arrangement

Like I'm pretty sure whoever set it up is using a sata breakout cable which isn't how the controller is meant to be used (I think)

[steel umbra]

hai

[junior kiln]

hello 0:

[steel umbra]

hi

[wheat field]

Please tell me the Ikea bear knows

[mellow shadow]

I’m trying to connect a bunch of SATA drives together and I stumbled upon that slimsas 8i to 8 sata cable thing and I thought damn one cable that would be cool then I lost my mind because SAS makes no sense

So I’m gonna do like I should’ve done to begin with

[steel umbra]

the cable you’re holding is a DC 3 pin fan control/header without pulse width modulation

[granite sundial]

its normal that windows defender blocks signalrgb right

[mellow shadow]

Just get a data breakout card

[junior kiln]

Ah I see. I understand now

[mellow shadow]

But yeah why are there so many flavors of SAS

[junior kiln]

@peak knot If you dont mind I tag you, I recommended Signal for their RGB problem earlier

[red bluff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1iv25a5/i_think_i_managed_to_enable_multi_frame_gen_on_my/

[granite sundial]

oh huh it was windows doing it??

apparently windows 11 has inbuilt rgb control now

[steel umbra]

when you’re daisychaining fans you basicly only need one pwm fan if all other are matching, they’ll be all controlled based on that fan

the rest can be DC

[junior kiln]

Big if true tbh

[mellow shadow]

You have slimsas minisas minisas HD (whatever that is 💀)

Just make like 1-2 cables and call it a day

This shit makes USB C look good

[supple gull]

I see, so why does the 3 pin exist any way?

[steel umbra]

it’s slightly cheaper to make dc controlled fans than pwm

also, when you’re daisychaining fans you prob don’t want to chain multiple pwm fans into one header

[wheat field]

It's not true, it's a placebo.

The exploit has been known for awhile, people just keep rediscovering it

[junior kiln]

The most I can say is that the Defender likes to throw false positives. If you got Signal from SIgnalRGB.com, it is a safe software and there is even devs from the company in ths chat. If he is not busy, Im sure he will respond when he gets a chance. I am 99% sure its a false positive and you just have to add the exception to the Windows Defender

[granite sundial]

im just surprised there wasnt any notice on signals website

smth like 'hey due to the way this interacts with your system your anti virus may believe its a virus'

[junior kiln]

It's because the Windows Defender can be really random on what it marks at times. I have had Chrome come up as a false positive even. It doesnt seem to be a common problem at all so I dont know if the company would even know. you for sure got it from SignalRGB.com and not like some website pretending to be signal, right?

[wheat field]

Not wide spread enough for them to address it. Windows Defender does this with tons of software and seemingly at random

On my windows 11 machine signal never flagged, although I eventually uninstalled it

So it could be a new thing

[granite sundial]

false positives ive gotten is usually because of the kinds of access a program has

[junior kiln]

Its unfortunate because it is counterproductive because it has been happening more frequently (to me, that is). I can imagine it is alarming to less technically savvy users and would eventually lead to users just making the assumption everything is a false positive, which is not what Microsoft would want...but yeah.

[granite sundial]

like accessing at the hardware level

[wheat field]

Sure but what may trigger a FP for you wouldn't for me

[junior kiln]

^ Ive had chrome trigger a fp once

[wheat field]

I'm sure they're more than willing to address it but you have to think of it from a company's perspective. Moreover pretty much all software would have to include this tag because windows defender loves to fuck around

But I won't critique too much, WD is a great antivirus

Especially for a free one

[junior kiln]

I agree, WD has come a long way for sure and it isnt as intensive as standalone AV like BitDefender which are great options when employed in the right scenarios

[frail delta]

You guys are also talking about Windows Security, not Defender. Defender is a seperate, paid product :p

[granite sundial]

i have the firewall off so idk why its still blocking stuff

[junior kiln]

Ah, touche

[granite sundial]

i turned everything off like memory integrity cuz i dont play any games where anticheat requires it

[frail delta]

Nothing Microsoft can ever be simple.

[junior kiln]

Tbf, if you google Windows Defender, it comes up at the top line "WIndows Defender is a free antivirus program and securit-"

[granite sundial]

i turned everything off and it still sometimes fucks up my stuff, like just randomly quarantining an exe without even giving me a notification

[frail delta]

It’s been renamed like 4 times in the past decade

[wheat field]

It's been renamed so often that I don't care

[junior kiln]

I am sorry you are having this issue with Signal since I was the one who recommended it to use. I have never heard of a user actually having that problem with it before

[wheat field]

Originally defender was a free antivirus and then they changed the name so I'm going to call it defender for legacy reasons

[wheat field]

Sounds like something is wrong with your system

[granite sundial]

it wasnt quarantined it was when i installed it

[junior kiln]

How do you FIND the paid version, because I never even knew there was a paid version let alone able to find it

[wheat field]

Sounds like less of an antivirus problem and more of a system issue. Are you sure you don't have malware that's spreading to other files?

[granite sundial]

ive had no unusual indications in anything

[frail delta]

Then you just go and remove it from quarantine, provided you know for sure that it is safe

[wheat field]

I'm sure they know that.... They're probably just pointing out that it's annoying

[granite sundial]

ill run malwarebytes just to be safe

[frail delta]

It’s annoying for a very good reason

[junior kiln]

That is why I asked. You for sure got it from SignalRGB.com and not like.. idk RGBSignal or some website trying to pose as SignalRGB

[granite sundial]

signalrgb.com

[wheat field]

That's literally not the point.

[granite sundial]

i would send the exe here but i dont think mods would be happy

i can dm if u want

[wheat field]

If you got it from signals official site it's safe.

[frail delta]

Send the link you downloaded it from

[granite sundial]

https://signalrgb.com/

[cedar hollow]

this app is useless

it cant even control my zotac rgb

[wheat field]

Ya there you go, it's fine.

[wheat field]

Signal? I tried it too and wasn't impressed

Works for some people

[cedar hollow]

and you have to pay for themes and shit

[granite sundial]

this is my second pc build and i deliberately went for no rgb

[wheat field]

So why do you want signal?

[granite sundial]

only problem is my case doesnt have an illuminated power button so its hard to tell when its on or off lol especially with 0rpm fans

[wheat field]

Ah I see

[cedar hollow]

I just keep everything connected to 1 rgb header and set it to a solid color

[granite sundial]

to turn off the rgb on my mouse

i found out it was actually windows that was controlling it

[wheat field]

https://signalrgb.com/

That's the official site, if you got it from here you're safe

[junior kiln]

windows having control of rgb is news to me tbh. I didnt know they had a controller for it in 11

[granite sundial]

oh god a scan is gonna take forever

some of the games i have are like 20,000 files for some reason

[cedar hollow]

jee pee you

[steel umbra]

titan

[granite sundial]

ok ran a scan 5 detection (3 of them autoit scripts, one is cheat engine, one android root tool)

[wheat field]

Ew

Nvidia lol

[cedar hollow]

ya i prefer nvidia

[granite sundial]

yeah sorry 4080 super obliterates 7900xtx at 4k

[cedar hollow]

i think the xtx is faster

at 4k

[granite sundial]

with dlss and ray tracing on?

[cedar hollow]

errr not with ray tracing but with fsr xtx is faster still

[granite sundial]

so its only faster with ray tracing off

[cedar hollow]

ray tracing kinda useless tho

[granite sundial]

why would i buy a card that can run anything at 4k ultra and not use ultra settings

[steel umbra]

@supple gull anyways, srry had to something it doesn’t matter if you do 1 pwm fan + 3 dc fans with a basic hub or 4 pwm fans as it’s all coming from one header which will not control fans individually, if you want to do that you need a hub that’s usb driven or such.

[cedar hollow]

4080 can barely do 4k ray tracing

in fact i dont think it can

[wheat field]

So?

[granite sundial]

it runs alan wake 2 at 4k ultra ray + path tracing high at 60 fps

[wheat field]

And I'm pretty sure that's ray tracing

[steel umbra]

maybe medium

[wheat field]

Ray tracing is useless outside of games that build around it

[steel umbra]

atleast, high textures, medium shading, medium rt

[cedar hollow]

yea medium probably

[granite sundial]

idk what kinda 4080 yall have mine runs alan wake 2 at 60 fps ultra settings ray + path tracing high

[wheat field]

Unless you're an idiot

[mellow shadow]

4080 and 5080 still suck cus 16GB of VRAM

[wheat field]

Cool story bro

[steel umbra]

it depends on the game y

[cedar hollow]

i got my XTX for $696.96

[wheat field]

Just some guy who's trying to justify his card. Don't engage

Happens every time someone says anything about AMD

[steel umbra]

fr

[wheat field]

Unless it's their CPUs

[cedar hollow]

I just prefer nvidia but it's a mistake to brush off AMD

[granite sundial]

yeah if they were that cheap here i would have bought one lol

[red bluff]

omfg

[granite sundial]

7900xtx was barely cheaper than 4080 super here (i saw was because both are out of stock everywhere now)

[wheat field]

That's fair, Nvidia GPUs are good. I use AMD for personal reasons. Made the switch after I had a 3060

[cedar hollow]

XTX is a super powerful card and relevant even now with 5080

[steel umbra]

steal for $696.96

[red bluff]

Argentinian dude typed "Advanced to castle age", enemy thinks its a notification, surrenders. LMAO
https://youtu.be/Y6LqUVCqqrM?t=3721

[steel umbra]

i bought my 6900xt for $420

[red bluff]

Right fucking on kvetinky!!!

[granite sundial]

7900xtx was more like 950 - 1000 usd here

[cedar hollow]

mine was used

[steel umbra]

same

[cedar hollow]

i only buy used gpus

[red bluff]

Do you mind testing ark survival ascended to see how you do with fps?

[cedar hollow]

except 5090

[steel umbra]

i bought my 3090 for 500

[granite sundial]

its like the b580 here youd be stupid to buy because its so overpriced

[cedar hollow]

same

[eternal cloak]

I still remember the guy who defended his 10900K to the grave, not accepting when people say it's beaten by a 12600K

[steel umbra]

which model

[cedar hollow]

sapphire reference

oh wait you meant 3090

[red bluff]

Here in argentina you could grab 3090's for no-interest monthly payments, PLUS my currency having an extreme inflation.

So I managed to grab two 3090's, gaming x trio for $350, and ventus x3 for $300.

[granite sundial]

isnt the import tax in argentina absurd

[red bluff]

People are just selling them for pennies over here, still.

[cedar hollow]

I bought 3 3090s for $1500, 1x asus tuf, 1x evga ftw3 and 1x evga xc3

[red bluff]

Helluva, 50% tax.

But we have the 'biggest' hardware store which we think it's just a cover for a money laundry business that brings the hardware at a "reasonable" price. (" " reasonable " ")

[steel umbra]

good, good, ok the xc3 is not the best but does the job

still very good price

[cedar hollow]

yeah i liked the tuf and xc3 bc dual slots

[drowsy flame]

Now is $200 for a 3070?

[cedar hollow]

i could stuff 2 into 1 pc

[granite sundial]

does it really matter

its all the same die

just a different cooler

[drowsy flame]

I don’t need one but I could but it just because it’s a good deal and find a way to use it

[red bluff]

Wanna have a laugh about something? I can't get this gaming x trio to have reasonable temps, and the ventus just has helluva better temps.

[cedar hollow]

you're underestimating how shit the xc3 cooler is

constant thermal throttling

[steel umbra]

if you don’t care about noise and higher temps ig not

[red bluff]

Okay, let me correct myself, the bios profile on the gaming x trio seems to be the silent one. So fans spin slow, once I open afterburner it improves. The ventus one has a better bios, so fans spin properly.

[steel umbra]

how bad is it on your card

yeah the xc3 needs atleast a repad + repaste i’ve heard

[granite sundial]

did u repaste it?

[cedar hollow]

its pretty bad even after repaste

yea with nt-h2

[granite sundial]

huh

[granite sundial]

does the 3090 just run hot or smth

[steel umbra]

the cooler is small

[cedar hollow]

no its just a shit cooler

[steel umbra]

it’s a 2 slot iirc

[cedar hollow]

yep

[granite sundial]

my 4080 is 2.5 slots and does very well thermally

so just sounds like a shit design

[steel umbra]

i have the fe and it’s a literal brick in hands

[cedar hollow]

the 3090 has a higher tdp and is 2 slots

[granite sundial]

i guess but like even during gaming my gpu is at like 70c

[steel umbra]

4090/4080 even brickier

[cedar hollow]

honestly after 3090s idk if i can daily a gpu with less than 24gb of vram

anything less than 24 feels cheap

7900xtx spoiled me

[granite sundial]

i wonder if theyre gonna come out with a 5080 ti with 3gb vram modules

[cedar hollow]

warzone uses all 24gb of my vram and it runs so smooth with high 1% lows

and vrchat uses almost 20gb vram in some lobbies too

[steel umbra]

that’s going to be hell for the xc3

[granite sundial]

isnt warzone cpu limited generally?

[cedar hollow]

i have a 9800x3d

[cedar hollow]

Yeah with the stacked vram thing

[granite sundial]

yeah but thats vr chat

[cedar hollow]

yeah but vram important

anything less than 20gb is not enough for me anymore

[granite sundial]

in a game that the devs didnt bother to optimise in vr maybe

[cedar hollow]

no its just people dont optimize their avatars

ive seen avatars that are like 1gb on their own

[granite sundial]

yeah ig

should have put a polygon limit or smth

1gb 3d model is some yandere dev level unoptimised

thinking about the 5k toothbrush

[upper abyss]

why are ppl so down bad for an nvidia gpu?

[latent pasture]

for most stuff its better
next

[upper abyss]

how does one achieve this

[upper abyss]

im talking about gamers primarily

[cedar hollow]

software suite

[latent pasture]

for most stuff its better
next

[cedar hollow]

dlss and stuff

[eternal cloak]

Idk, ask VRChat modelers

[upper abyss]

yee ig

[granite sundial]

nvidia cards also have much better software support in games

[cedar hollow]

someone wants to sell me a 5090 + 4k 240hz oled monitor as a bundle for $4000

[granite sundial]

ive got a 4k 240hz oled

[upper abyss]

i made an entire house thats not even an gb with triple layered Textures just for the outside😭

[cedar hollow]

im thinking ill do this deal

[granite sundial]

just a 5090 is going for like 6k rn

[cedar hollow]

i might do this deal lol

[granite sundial]

i like how my monitor is cheaper here than in america

[latent pasture]

flip the 5090 while its still bot

[granite sundial]

feels like a tiny bit of revenge for pc parts being way more expensive

[cedar hollow]

im sure america sure felt the wrath of your revenge

[pearl notch]

Is 3090 is still good?
Im picking 3090 vs 4080super

[livid fern]

4080s miles ahead in general

[red bluff]

29% for 3 times the price

no ty lol

[livid fern]

And power consumption
Transient spikes

[red bluff]

You can tame the 3090 to have 300-330w power consumption

[solar moat]

WITH 600w SPIKES

[livid fern]

transient, not normal power usage

[red bluff]

no sure, I thought it was a separate message, not both of them together 😛

[livid fern]

Some 2018 and before focus gold models had problems with that kekw

[kindred halo]

Just buy a 5090 and use NVidia's new Watt gen technology

320 real Watts, hallucinates 500-600 extra Watts for you

And if you buy their NV-LSD™ you won't even notice the fire coming from the power connectors!

[latent pasture]

5090 transients are actually smal compared to its sustained
its just that it starts so high in the first place

[pearl notch]

Hey guys thanks for the inputtt

I just need to know for my alternative PC, it has 12700k and just wanna put another GPU with it.. what would u guys suggest?

[ebon spire]

Since I'm doing my upgrades tomorrow after work I updated my PC Part Picker List
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LMqtLc

[pearl notch]

Just for average daily use, but can do gaming in decent 1440p res

[latent pasture]

7800xt

highly depends on prices where ur from anyway
but for 1440p try to get higher than 60 tiers

[pearl notch]

Oki thank youu 😘

[livid fern]

Just to say your psu is e tier

[empty quartz]

I dont think i should use the apple pro-res hdr mode on my phone 😅

[median warren]

Dude, I could find a 4080 super for £1200 but I cannot find an rtx 3090 for less than £1500

I've found an Instock white 5080 that somehow costs less than most 3090s I've found

[broken saffron]

does it heat up when you use it

[empty quartz]

not really

just gets slightly warm

[broken saffron]

damn ig they really did improve the thermals

[empty quartz]

not even my iphone 12 got really hot while recording

only time my 12 heated up was while benchmarking

[broken saffron]

nah im talking when using 4k

[empty quartz]

same here

i pretty much record exclusively in 4k on my phones

[broken saffron]

oh damn ig maybe its just teh weather here making it worse

[empty quartz]

no

[broken saffron]

it does get to 40-45 degrees

[empty quartz]

im saying no to the weather making it overheat

it does a bit

but not majorly

[frail delta]

I thought an external SSD was required for that

[junior kiln]

I think the temperatures you mentioned are pretty normal for a CPU like that. I mean they seem a little high based on the little context I have about your system but it isn't obscene

I wouldnt be alarmed

[broken saffron]

the temperatures i mentioned are the temperatures where i live not the cpu 😭

[junior kiln]

Sorry I totally mistook you for a guy in another chat who was talking about a i7 13700k

I clicked tc2 and i guess switched to tc1 and saw the 40-45 and was like huh? thats not bad

[broken saffron]

haha lol its alr

[broken saffron]

do people actually use tech chat 2

[junior kiln]

Yeah, during the more busy hours in NA, it can get a little busy with the conversations taking place so people bounce around

Night time in NA, its usually one remains dead

[granite sundial]

PC just hard crashed wtf

how do I find out what caused it

I know event viewer but idk what filters to use

[junior kiln]

Are you sure your WIndows Security wasn't sending alarm bells for a reason?

Not that is helpful, just that consider it could be an indicator

[fluid matrix]

what is a good socket that does not cost a lot of money and has a decent upgrade path?
I am running lga 1200 rn but that is kinda dead... I want a new cpu cuz like 13 10100 is too bad for my 3060.

[granite sundial]

nope seems it was intel rapid storage technology

idk how tf i dont even have an intel system

heres the logs

[frail delta]

AM5

[fluid matrix]

alr

[granite sundial]

it was the nvidia driver that crashed

should i rollback then?

[random gyro]

is it worth going for AMD graphics card over nvidia to save on cost but sacrifice ray tracing
is ray tracing important

[cedar hollow]

no

AMD is good if you’re just gaming

in fact I would recommend it

[random gyro]

but dont some games like inida jones have mandatory ray tracing

[granite sundial]

whats the budget

[cedar hollow]

like 1 game that isn’t out yet

[granite sundial]

amd cards are most competitive at the mid end

[random gyro]

like 700 dollars for gpu

[red badge]

so I currently have an HDR400 VA monitor, but it sucks... I get my oled monitor tomorrow and it has HDR400, does OLED make HDR actually good since each pixel essentially has dimming?

[granite sundial]

ok yeah definitely amd, something like the 6800 or 7800xt is what you wanna go for

[red badge]

7900 xt is $720 atm

9070 xt will likely be $700 or less, but it will likely get scalped

[coarse forge]

Guys us this legit?

I just found this on AliExpress:
￡143.25 | AMD Ryzen 5 R5 5600 3.5GHz 6-Core 12-Thread CPU Processor 65W L3=32M 100-000000927 LGA AM4
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EQcwz4y

£70

[molten patrol]

that price abit high tbh

[true stirrup]

Looks good

[real lantern]

the best mod of all time

[true stirrup]

Perfection

[coarse forge]

£70

[real lantern]

ikr

[molten patrol]

now make it linus version

[random gyro]

Happy gpu happy life

[red badge]

hope that thing has warranty

[nocturne nebula]

Theres no channel for servers so ill ask here. Is Epyc 7402p a good deal for a server. Im working a Server mainly for my nas but also plan to run some docker containers, minecraft servers, and other servers off of that.

Am i overthinking it should i go ryzen 7 or something consumer.

My reasoning behind epyc 7402p is price, pcie lanes, ram max capacity and good clock speed and core amount to divy out respectively to each service im running.

Im also unsure if i use use TrueNAS as my hypervisor and run docker off there of Proxmox and passthrough my HBA and 10GBe NIC into Truenas.

Anything helps feel free to DM 😄

[red badge]

epyc 7402p would suck for MC, and the rest depends on how important multi core is

consumer is WAY better for MC and many other light work loads

[rigid fjord]

some not great parts in that list

[real lantern]

ok

[random gyro]

Well it was bought 4y and 10 mo ago but I have a 5y right of complaint where I live but last time I did that with an Asus product they accused me of water damaging it when I cleaned it with electronics cleaner spray thingy

[red badge]

rip that sucks

[random gyro]

I can still try tho :D

[nocturne nebula]

My server are lightly used mostly me and 1 other person, i have running a shitty dell r420 rn with some shitty xeon at 2.4ghz boost and it works

[nocturne nebula]

also slow ddr3

[rigid fjord]

as you're in the uk, i wouldn't get it from there

[red badge]

ye it works, but a 7700x will run a modded MC server better than a 7402p

[nocturne nebula]

not modded just vanilla

[red badge]

ah, if it's just vanilla, then just running it on papermc is enough on a lot of hardware configs

[red badge]

I just don't see the draw to getting a 7402p, especially with the expensive motherboards

expensive motherboards, high wattage, slower per core, etc.

[nocturne nebula]

yeah thats what i rn and its fine with 4 people 20tps no issues like last time...

[red badge]

it makes sense if you could use all 24 cores, but the difference between a 7700x and a 7402p is ~22% if you could use all 24 cores...
So in most cases, the 7700x should be faster for what you're trying to do

not to mention the 7900x exists

[nocturne nebula]

wattage isnt really a factor bc im getting more performance bc its and upgrade from dual 4 core xeons that pull like 100W each

[red badge]

in which case, the 7900x is faster

[random gyro]

My dad has 5 servers with dual epyc 9965's and 2 servers with dual 9575F's

:D

[dull bone]

Your dad is radical

[red badge]

7900x is 18% faster + cheaper than a 7402p. I just don't think the 7402p makes sense unless you need the PCIE lanes

7900x is MUCH faster(2.5x) at single threaded workloads, and still faster at multithreaded workloads

[earnest ravine]

Hey everyone,
Does anyone know the naming schemes used by any of the major monitor brands? Specifically, how their model numbers and letters are structured and what they mean.

I’ve been trying to learn them, but so far, I’ve only been able to figure out Dell’s system

[random gyro]

The 5 big boi servers he has have 14x 4090's in each he wanted to get 5090's for them but melty melty 16p

[random gyro]

Random numbers and letters = maybe good monitor

[dull bone]

Your dad is rich 😭

[true stirrup]

You can't learn that it doesn't make sense

[nocturne nebula]

I want the pcie mainly for the nas. Ive done the math for the last month and if i get a nvme cache drive i need a sata boot which is planned anyways and also, and with am4 i think 20 or 24 usable lanes which get take by hba 10gbe nic and nvme drive so i could do like a gpu for plex if i wanted

[random gyro]

Nah the state pays for it he works at a uni and he wanted SO SO much money on internet cards... The 2 9575F servers have 1tb/s connections😭

[dull bone]

Just go off statistics and word of mouth, you'll be Gucci 🫶

[dull bone]

damn.

[earnest ravine]

There are just so many different to choose from. It’s hard lol

[oblique terrace]

Good night people. Don't use the toilet you see in your dreams or you will have problems in the morning

[random gyro]

He also let me play Valorant and CS on the 4090 servers kinda sucked ass

[sacred vine]

why do they release their GPUs in descending order
like
why didn't they start with the 5060 or something and go up

[random gyro]

Because 5090 is a way higher margin product

They stopped manufacturing the 40 series

What are they gonna do?

Buy the 4060? Nah

Buy the 5080

[red badge]

they're pricey, but some AM5 boards have 10gb ethernet. Like $460. you'd need to do the math to see if it's worth it

If you go down to 5Gb/s, it's $190

[random gyro]

I don't have any context but 10g cards are like $65

[red badge]

ye, but the epyc motherboard + epyc cpu adds cost

[random gyro]

Fuck that let's do quad bulldozer :D

[red badge]

so you'd need to consider
7700x or 7900x + $460 board vs epyc cpu + epyc board + 10g card

[red badge]

lol I used to use an fx8320, it sucked. So much that my i7 8750h felt fast. But now that I've used a 7600x for a while, the 8750h sucks

[nocturne nebula]

multiple users, 100gb+ files, i want minimize bottle necks and "futureproof"

[random gyro]

I used to oc a 8370 BE with peltiers and a car rad

So fun

[red badge]

idk, the epyc cpu only makes sense if you need tons of PCIE lanes

like with a ton of GPUs

Otherwise, there are cheaper and faster alternatives

[nocturne nebula]

Also dont want to go am5 until i upgrade my main rig, just i think it would be stupid.

[red badge]

you can also use a 10g card + gpu not at 16 lanes

[red badge]

eh, I'd ignore the gen, just think of the price vs performance. Why spend more on a setup that'll be slower. The added cost comes in features you aren't using

[junior valve]

otiplex build

[rigid fjord]

dude, it's an £90 cpu that you can get for around £60 on ebay, do not, i repeat do not get it on aliexpress

[abstract wigeon]

im experiencing some hitching/stuttering in my cyberpunk benchmark, how can i work out whats causing this and help it

[red badge]

What's your GPU util at?

[random gyro]

Mobo looks very msiy

[abstract wigeon]

gpu 99% cpu 40%

[red badge]

check per core usage

[abstract wigeon]

u think my graphics are just too high 😢😢

[junior valve]

its msi

[abstract wigeon]

on cpu in task manager?

[red badge]

uh it's an okay way. But you could also just try setting an FPS cap to see if it helps

[abstract wigeon]

or i have hwinfo64 if you can tell me how

[random gyro]

No it should be able to go to 200% /j

[red badge]

set an fps cap 10%-20% below your average to see if it helps with the stutters

[abstract wigeon]

in my brothers system his cpu was at 120% usage once lmao

[red badge]

I'm assuming that whenever a CPU heavy scene pops up, your CPU struggles then stutters

[abstract wigeon]

alright thanks ill try this

10/20% is a lot tho since my average is 60 🙏

[random gyro]

Wtf

[true stirrup]

The program was reading the data wrong

[red badge]

unfortunate, but you need ways to give your CPU some breathing room

maybe close everything out

[abstract wigeon]

is there a way to pin hwinfo so it shows over the top of my game?

[red badge]

I'm assuming, 40% usage = a core or two is being MAXED out then lagging

[abstract wigeon]

yeah it was a broken version of hwmonitor

[abstract wigeon]

^?

[true stirrup]

No
You can use MSI Afterburner and turn on the overlay

[random gyro]

Use MSI afterburner and the overlay

[livid fern]

Hi
How's your tuning going

[nocturne nebula]

i setteled on the 7402p bc of how much faster it is from what i have now, i could have gone higher cores but slower speed and ended up where i am now or gone lower cores higher speeds, but am4/5 would have been more logical for the latter. MC servers arent the biggest priority, the server is for the nas and then the mc, its the entire platform upgrade that i like from what i have atm. that would allow me to be able to add more services on too with out worrying about cores or speed for a while.

[abstract wigeon]

o yeah 🤦‍♂️

[rigid fjord]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/g94BD3/ this is a better offer

[true stirrup]

7000MT/s 40-44-44 passes 1usmus, Ycruncher and sometimes OCCT. It's like 50/50 if it passes it and I can do the runs one after another

[red badge]

but isn't AM5 just faster in both multi core and single core?

[true stirrup]

It either passes 2 hours or it doesn't pass 1 min

[red badge]

7402p use Zen2 cores

[abstract wigeon]

i saw 4/12 threads hit 60% usage but nothing above that

[red badge]

ah, then likely a GPU bottleneck

lower your graphics settings

[abstract wigeon]

😾

rip the 3070 maybe 1440p was never meant to be

[red badge]

yea, the 3070 would struggle at 1440p

[abstract wigeon]

60fps isnt bad though

[red badge]

the 8gb of vram is also annoying on it...

[abstract wigeon]

1440p ultrawide aswell

[red badge]

1% lows are more important than the average imo

average 60fps but 1% lows of 30fps would feel terrible to play

like it just takes you out of the game

[abstract wigeon]

mhm

1% low of 52 🤷‍♂️

[red badge]

I mean the stutters are worse

oh, how's your vram util when it stutters?

[abstract wigeon]

checking

5.8gb / 8

[red badge]

when it stutters?

[abstract wigeon]

yep

[red badge]

this is what I see in a yt vid with a 3070 in cyberpunk

[willow coral]

im suspecting my computer has a virus or something of that sort. what can i use to make sure my computer is safe? virus/bitcoin miners ect.

[red badge]

if it maxes the vram, it will stutter lkelike crazy

[abstract wigeon]

what graphics? im on ultra no rt and dlss tranformer quality

[red badge]

tons of research looking at all services + tasks running, and watching your network usage to see if anything is irregular

[true stirrup]

If windows defender isn't picking up anything try Malwarebytes

[red badge]

1440p + rt + dlss balanced

[abstract wigeon]

wipe it if ur worried

[willow coral]

ive heard of malwarebytes being a problem

[abstract wigeon]

theres no way in hell i could hit 55 with rt

what godsend 3070 are they using

[willow coral]

wish i knew how. im very scared to mess something up.

[red badge]

it was in a specific part of the game I think

or wait, what CPU do you have?

[abstract wigeon]

the built in benchmark?

[red badge]

cyberpunk is a CPU heavy game too

[abstract wigeon]

7600

amd

[red badge]

tbf, it's on 1440p, not 3440x1440

[true stirrup]

I've been using it for years it's great

[red badge]

you have a lot more extra pixels

[abstract wigeon]

i love ultrawide what can i say

[red badge]

yea, your VRAM + CPU seem fine, guess it really is just the GPU

[abstract wigeon]

😾

[red badge]

I mean, how's your ram usage

that's the last thing I can think of lol

[abstract wigeon]

12/32gb

[red badge]

ye, just the GPU then. Wasn't meant to be

[abstract wigeon]

to be fair at these settings im averaging 47 fps so not far off

[red badge]

3440x1440 is a difficult res to run at

[abstract wigeon]

my poor poor 3070

theres always frame gen kek

[median warren]

Dw my 3070 struggled as well with the same resolution

As a person who had a 3070 with 2560x1440p and then 3440x1440p, I can definitely say that the 3070 will struggle with more demanding games

[abstract wigeon]

holy cook the hitching is WAY worse with frame gen

[abstract wigeon]

im lucky cyberpunk is the only demanding game i run

half life 2 runs fine 🙏

[median warren]

Yeah you'll be fine with games like that, but when you get into these games like cyberpunk, or remnant 2 even, or like horizon forbidden west etc

At that resolution it's gonna struggle

[nocturne nebula]

1 is what i have now dual xeon, 2 is what im considering, and 3 is what your recommending, i dont need super fast cores for a minecraft server with max 2 people most of the time and 1 of them being afk. I belive i would benifit from the amount of core in the epyc for the purpose of the NAS specially with how big the files ill be storeing are. also motherboard maybe expensive but im buying as much as i can of ebay and facebook and then the rest on newegg or amazon.

[abstract wigeon]

maybe next gen ill upgrade to a 40 series when prices drop

[median warren]

That's what I did, on January 2nd

[abstract wigeon]

are u struggling to run the server at the moment?

[red badge]

I mean I said the 7900x later on

[median warren]

I bought myself a completely new system, got an asus tuf 4080 super for £1k 😎😎 just before 50 series release, and oh boy was i smart to do that

[red badge]

replace it with the 7900x and compare