tech-chat-1

[red badge]

They sometimes lock that

[kindred halo]

Saw a post for a "16GB GTX 1080Ti"

[red badge]

Especially with a school version

[elder quarry]

WinPE

[gleaming bridge]

does a woled or qd oled have clearer text? someone told me one has blacker black but one better image quaility to do with tesxt

[kindred halo]

I am pretty sure the guy's either lying, or mistyped

[neat surge]

@red badge

[vestal stream]

It took me 4 hours cus It was throwing out a cpu error light for a ram stick that wasn't completely in. I fixated on the cpu and only found out about the ram as a last resort

[red badge]

I know of ways around it, but I can't 100% take your word that you have permission to do this

[elder quarry]

I don’t see why unattended install wouldnt work

[brave brook]

so is 2500K

[elder quarry]

Don’t think ti will override, while othe version

[red badge]

Was just talking about the 2100 since I had one lying around lol

[elder quarry]

Who cares

[neat surge]

I do, school wanted to throw the pc's away and I have permission of the IT guy to take any tech stuff I like as long as they've thrown it away.

I can send a ss for proof if you want?

It'll be in Dutch tho

[red badge]

I mean, I'd rather I don't promote stealing which many students do.

But if they had permission to not turn it to ewaste, then that's fair

[elder quarry]

You’re right

[red badge]

I can dm you

[neat surge]

Alright

[empty quartz]

At least you didnt have to do this

[elder quarry]

Oh god that cable management

[elder quarry]

Have you ever done hard line?

[empty quartz]

Thankfully not

[empty quartz]

Not much i can do

This case is awful for cable management

[elder quarry]

No

[elder quarry]

Yup

[empty quartz]

Incorrect

[elder quarry]

Huh

[elder quarry]

That was a way of saying agreed

[empty quartz]

Ah

[plush wren]

Steering Wheel

[elder quarry]

Stealing wheel

[plush wren]

WHAT

[elder quarry]

Dead server

[kindred halo]

230 for a 3070 TuF... 40 more for an RX 6800,,, I wonder which is the beter deal /s

[latent gull]

has anyone here used ethernet over coax as a replacement for wifi in their house?

[tender badger]

Any of the gaming handhelds able to beat my i7-6700, GTX 1070, 32gb ddr4 2133mt ?

[elder quarry]

Yup

[tender badger]

Which one?

[red badge]

Z1 extreme

All of them with a z1 extreme

[tender badger]

The rog ally?

[red badge]

Ye

[tender badger]

Or does a steam deck have that too?

[red badge]

Nope, steam deck does not

[tender badger]

The Igpu can beat the 1070?

[red badge]

It's about on par iirc

[tender badger]

Dam but oh well

[red badge]

But the cpu is a lot better

[elder quarry]

And ram

[azure topaz]

also draws probably a fifth of the power

[kindred halo]

GDDR5 vs GDDR6

[tender badger]

Well I play modded skyrim and modded Minecraft so

[kindred halo]

And also acts as a mini computer

[tender badger]

I need more CPU than GPU anyway

[kindred halo]

The RoG Ally

[tender badger]

So if the GPU is on par it's good

[elder quarry]

Bruh

[red badge]

Looking into it, the 1070 is still probably 10%-15% faster. Just a huge cpu gap

[elder quarry]

What does tuf stand for

[kindred halo]

No idea

[elder quarry]

And everything else

[icy basalt]

I'm seeing this happen in Canada too, criminals are shipping the GPU cores to China, some buy them to sell for scams, some sell direct after ripping the core off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNZytzv0GKs

[red badge]

Ofc

[kindred halo]

RoG though is known

[tender badger]

Should I wait for the new rog ally

[kindred halo]

The one with the extreme CPU?

[elder quarry]

Is that a Roblox character

[red badge]

Z1 extreme

[elder quarry]

Yeah

[tender badger]

No didn't they announce the ally 2 at PC con or whatever this year

[sullen helm]

General Question: What GPU is best for a 1000 USD build?

[red badge]

Nope, they didn't confirm using z2 or z2 extreme soon

[tender badger]

Linus did a video on it when he reviewed the new vrs

[elder quarry]

CES…?

[tender badger]

Yeh ces

The new rog running steam os

[kindred halo]

Marketplace availability? Tasks?

Any already owned parts?

[icy basalt]

Used 6900?

[red badge]

Probably a 6750xt or used 6800 xt/used 3080

I prefer the 6800xt due to vram

[sullen helm]

Lets's say from scratch.

[red badge]

Man... imagine spending $1400 on a card with 16gb of vram...

[tender badger]

Oh is the x the one I'm thinking of

[sullen helm]

imagine

[sullen helm]

Fair fair

[sullen helm]

CPU?

[kindred halo]

7800 XT on Amazon is (allegedly) 489

[sullen helm]

Will take note.

[red badge]

I've tried speccing $1k builds with a 7800 xt. But many people play a lot of cpu heavy games

Unless it's just my friends

[kindred halo]

A cheaper option is the 7600/7600X for entry into the modern sockets

Does that 1000 include screen, Mouse & KB or just the case

[sullen helm]

oh okay

[red badge]

Oh, many people also want wifi

[icy basalt]

7600 cpu fine for all desktop games i only recommend 9800x3d for vr

[sullen helm]

nah let's just say the PC itself

[velvet minnow]

im so excited for 4gb gpus to fall more out of favor, im going to have so much cheap hardware to use

[kindred halo]

You can get some pretty good peripherals for around 200ish, btw

[sullen helm]

Noted

[kindred halo]

Amazon has MSI 1440p 100/120/144Hz monitors in the 110-140 range

[tidal geyser]

9800x3d for vr?

[sullen helm]

Oh okay, thanks

[tidal geyser]

the one time where just about always it will be gpu bound

[sullen helm]

Is the 4060 worth it?

[tidal geyser]

no

[tidal geyser]

b580 and then rx 7600

and 4060 only if way cheaper then both by a lot

[fallow moss]

lookiong for a full size wireless mouse witht he two sidxe buttons sick n tiredx these wires

[sullen helm]

Thank you very much for the info👍 👍 👍

[velvet minnow]

i wish egpu enclosures were cheaper

[tidal geyser]

i wish egpus really did anything

well for gaming

for gpu acceleration it can be good

[plush wren]

Yes ish

[icy basalt]

I know a lot of vr gamers run potato cpus on 4090s because muh gpu bound but it's an awful experience lows matter 100x more than avg/high in vr

[red badge]

@sullen helm

Here are the specs I've chosen so far for a $1k pre tax build. Just put in a used $400 gpu.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jHsFmC

Note: spent extra $30 on an overclockable board + $30 more for wifi.

[topaz turtle]

So those compressed air cans, I was using one to dust a screen but must have been holding the can wrong and some "juice" (liquid) squirted from the can onto the screen but then almost immediately evaporated.. any chance this stuff is going to damage the finish of the screen ?

[kindred halo]

4060 isn't that worth it lmao

[elder quarry]

Nope

[kindred halo]

For a similar price you can probably nab a 7800 used

[elder quarry]

Well everything’s possible

[icy basalt]

it all looks fine tbh

[drowsy flame]

More worth it than 5070ti

[red badge]

Lowkey, 5070 ti value vs last gen is fine. It's just that it is NOT a generational uplift.

Just a 4070 ti super duper

The only big upgrade was the 5090

[kindred halo]

True

[icy basalt]

4070ti good because it had dual transcoder like the 4090

[red badge]

5080 = 4080 super duper
5070 ti = 4070 ti super duper
5070 = 4070 super?

[topaz turtle]

i cant see any odvous tarnishing of the screen surface that could have been caused by this so im just checking to see if it could

[kindred halo]

At the cost of 1-3k, and burning power cables

[red badge]

Small price to pay for the best. You can buy a new house, but you can't buy a new 5090

[kindred halo]

Lmfao

[elder quarry]

It’s extremely unlikely, that is just compressed air

[red badge]

It's what makes the hole in our ozone, but is so tiny that it doesn't really do much

[velvet minnow]

i just want my laptop to run something but theyre all more expensive than the gpu I would want to put in it would cost

[red badge]

Egpus = need to invest more at first then commit to laptops forever and use the egpu for new laptops without a dgpu going forward

High investment cost, decent longterm use

Good if you will always use a laptop, bad vs a pc

[drowsy flame]

At 750 the 5070ti is about 12% better performance than the 4070ti super and has a price $50 less than the msrp of that card meaning you get actually like 20% better performance per dollar.

HOWEVER.

If you adjust the price of the 5070ti to what it actually is since there’s literally only one card at msrp, at $900 the 5070ti is actually the same price to performance ratio as a 4070ti super at $800.

THEN.

If you look at the 5070ti’s that cost over 900 you’re actually getting WORSE price to performance than the 4070ti super at $800.

Whomp whomp.

Conclusion? Buy 5070ti only if you have a 4070 non ti non super or worse and try to get the msrp one. Don’t pay more than $800 for a 5070ti because if you do, you might as well just try to find a used 4070ti super.

[topaz turtle]

but it was a liquid on the screen which is not ment to happen unless you hold the can wrong like i did .. so i do wonder

[nova solstice]

Is it safe to run a GTX 1080 with a 7800x3d with a 700w powersupply?

[velvet minnow]

its liquid CO2

thats how they compress it

[kindred halo]

Why are you using a 1080

[velvet minnow]

or NO2

[drowsy flame]

No it’ll blow up lol

[kindred halo]

Esp non Ti

[nova solstice]

Because I don't have a new GPU yet

[velvet minnow]

i mean my main rig uses a 1070

nothing wrong with it

[kindred halo]

How'd you manage a 7800X3D but not like 330ish for some midliner GPU

[elder quarry]

Nothings wrong, study chemistry or physics

[dusty dew]

I use iGPU, and nothing is wrong with it

[kindred halo]

They're good GPUs, but not when paired with a CPU that obviously can do better with a newer card

[nova solstice]

Well 700 is not much. What risks are with using a low wattage power supply?

[drowsy flame]

Wild. I’m on a 4070ti super and I’m gonna wait a good while before upgrading. Maybe the 50 series super refresh, maybe 60 series, maybe longer. Who knows.

[dusty dew]

500w is too ridiculous to spend on gpu power for 10 extra frames and 800 extra bucks

[nova solstice]

Haven't bought the gpu yet and I still have my old GPU

[dusty dew]

and the chance to melt

[velvet minnow]

my cpu can do better with a newer card too, i just have not had any reason to upgrade as of late

[kindred halo]

Fair enough, it'll work for now

[topaz turtle]

i have a meer 3060

[red badge]

Thought it was made of mostly refrigerant and only part of that is co2

[topaz turtle]

dont see me upgrading for a long time

[icy basalt]

7800x3d is a baller cpu friend got one from walmart of all places way below market value if i caught that i would not have got my 9800x3d

[drowsy flame]

I gave my girlfriend my old pc with a 3060 12gb in it. Still a very capable card at 1080p.

[kindred halo]

That's an understandable reason, only upgrade when you can't run what you like, eh?

[dusty dew]

1080 is still midliner gpu

[kindred halo]

Lower end midliner, 1080Ti is a different story

[red badge]

I got a 480hz monitor coming soon... I may need a 9800x3d

[icy basalt]

700fps in cs and lol

[red badge]

My 7600x is gonna struggle

[icy basalt]

7600x is fine

[red badge]

Valo is probably close to 480

[velvet minnow]

yeah, currenly i only have a 1080p monitor too, so dont have to render as many pixels either

[dusty dew]

yeah but recent games only is a unoptimized contest its why I like forza horizon\

they are the example of how to optimize modern games

[red badge]

Forza horizon is a godsend

[velvet minnow]

i was wrong is mostly a hydrocarbon like butane or propane

[red badge]

I still play fh4 at 120fps on my rog ally z1 extreme

[velvet minnow]

but it i under high pressure in the can keeping it a liquid

[kindred halo]

Modern games? Nah, all we're running is HL2 4K 144Hz

[topaz turtle]

im running at 1440p and thankfull for DLSS lol

[kindred halo]

Too bad the 5090s don't have PhysX

[dusty dew]

I really wish other devs optimize their games than push

gpu to airconditioning tier wattages

[kindred halo]

Quick question

[dusty dew]

to play their mess

[thorn pewter]

what

[elder quarry]

Whatt?

[thorn pewter]

and no suppourt for 32 bit cuda

[kindred halo]

How would Need For Speed MW 2013 run with an i5 12400F & 6800 on 1440p :3

[thorn pewter]

good enough

[topaz turtle]

so its still not likey to damage the screen right ?

[red badge]

Don't forget that the watts used = heat added to your room. So it is an electric heater... you may need to account for double the wattage to run a window ac unit

[velvet minnow]

honestly most newer graphically intenive games are kind of miserable gameplay wise imo. they release in unfinished states to make money

[kindred halo]

I want to relive the days of trolling cop AI with the Ariel Atom

[kindred halo]

5 FPS on Borderlands 2

[dusty dew]

yeeep, terrible pick for tropical countries

[icy basalt]

that cpu+gpu combo aged really well, lots of vram, doesn't explode

[velvet minnow]

yep! those hydrocarbons evaporate quickly

[velvet minnow]

wonderful for the wintertime great lakes region however

[dusty dew]

sooo I am definitely now a iGPU supremacist specially 780m and above now climbing to real gpu territory

[kindred halo]

Good CPU, good GPU with no VRAM based bottlenecks, and cheap

[thorn pewter]

yeah it gets sub 60 fps in 32 bit cuda games

[red badge]

The next gen apu from amd is pretty much just a small gpu with the cpu. But the chip is massive and unlikely to come to pcs

[kindred halo]

I built a theoretical case from the ground up with it and barely broke 680

[velvet minnow]

thats cool

[dusty dew]

would really make a lot of headroom for AMD market share vs team green though\

since note there are a LOT of people using laptops

[velvet minnow]

I like my surface pro, nice and quiet and has enough power to play some light 3d games

[red badge]

8060s, it's as fast as the 4070 laptop according to rumors

[elder quarry]

Dang

[dusty dew]

these kind of data makes gpus more irrelevant

[red badge]

If they got an 8060s speed gpu in a desktop cpu for a good price, then amd could actually get a decent marketshare

But their last gen of apus kinda sucked for the price

[dusty dew]

I think it should be close

[icy basalt]

a little slower then 4070m which is impressive, enough gpu power for 1440p gaming

[dusty dew]

some laptops aint

like you cant see a ryzen 9 with 1650 performance at sub 600 new

[red badge]

True, but you can sometimes see a ryzen 7 7735hs + 7700s for $700

I got it for $600 actually

During bf+cm

[frigid merlin]

is it normal for my gpus idle temp to be 23 degrees celcius?

[dusty dew]

depends on the place, but given that that same spec is not 700 usd but 1000 usd

[velvet minnow]

thats like a slightly warm room temp

[velvet minnow]

yes

[icy basalt]

If amd made an ITX board with an igp thats desktop 5070ti power DGPUs are basically obsolete

[frigid merlin]

ok thank you

[red badge]

This goes on sale often https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-tuf-gaming-a16-16-165hz-gaming-laptop-fhd-amd-ryzen-7-7735hs-with-16gb-ddr5-memory-radeon-rx7700s-512gb-pcie-ssd-off-black/6560989.p?skuId=6560989

It used to be $700 consistently, but this time they made it $750, idk why

I got it for $600

[still valve]

Can someone tell me a cheap motherboard that supports ryzen 5 1600af and 1050Ti

[red badge]

Something something probably tariffs adding 10% to the cog

[dusty dew]

thats a bargain for 600

would have bought that one if available here, sadly its 900 here

[velvet minnow]

my gpu idles at 800 degrees kelvin should i turn it into a forge for iron

[dusty dew]

and 900 is too much for me

[red badge]

Any cheap am4 motherboard from ebay that works

[icy basalt]

only8gb vram rip if was 12+ would be perfect

[velvet minnow]

like an a320 mb?

[red badge]

Unfortunate, Canada or eu?

[dusty dew]

Middle east

and the best deal is a ryzen 9 7940hs with 780m for 600 sub slightly,

[rapid quarry]

Probably because of the pic of starfield. Instant devaluation

[red badge]

7700s is not the fastest, but still a good deal. I don't think it needs 12gb

[dusty dew]

the rest are rtx 2050 at this price point

which is terrible at best

[velvet minnow]

go to bed bro

[red badge]

I'd just avoid laptops there tbh

[dusty dew]

nope, day off tomorrow

so I can play all night

[velvet minnow]

for a friday?

[dusty dew]

yeep

[red badge]

I only got a laptop for my wife.

I bought myself an rog ally z1e for when I travel - as it's faster than my 8750h + 1070 max q laptop(that has no batteries, over heats, and the fans are loud)

[dusty dew]

on a note, this vivobook r9 will be my wife's when I go vacation in 10 months

then I buy myself a proper next gen igpu laptop

[red badge]

Ooo, I spend too much

[dusty dew]

this is good for her since her laptop is a aging LG laptop

[still valve]

yea something like that

[red badge]

I have a pc + rog ally + unused half broken laptop(I can fix it but it's too slow tbh)

My wife has a desktop + laptop that I showed

[dusty dew]

like.... 15 years old

[still valve]

its for my brother for his 1st pc

[red badge]

Nah that's slower than a phone

[dusty dew]

yeeep, well back then she needed a laptop with very small budget

[red badge]

Any Samsung phone with dex + monitor would be a better pc

[dusty dew]

so I bought based on that budget specifically back then

and she wasnt my wife yet back then

[red badge]

I bought my wife(back then gf) a switch

But built her a 1700 + rx 580 pc for cheap later

LUCKILY IT WAS AM4, she's still using the pc but with a 5700x3d, rx 6600, and a new case

The am4 board at the time was $50

[icy basalt]

have to upgrade her engagement switch to marriage steam deck

[red badge]

Lol she wants another art monitor

She has a Wacom at her desk + 165hz monitor + a mobile drawing monitor for when she travels already...

Consumerism in the US is insane

0 debt though, never get into debt for wants

[dusty dew]

well bought my wife similarly--- except a smartphone

[red badge]

I got my wife the s24+ a few months ago

S24+, samsung watch, galaxy ring, and the buds3 pro xd

[dusty dew]

mine is abit on the red recently since my mom passed away suddenly--- and I had to return to my home 4 days after vacation

[red badge]

Happy wife = happy life ig

[red badge]

That's unfortunate, you should take a longer vacation if possible

And don't spend on tech - it can wait. In fact, the longer you wait, the better the tech is for less

[dusty dew]

cant afford that one man, but I use my anguish of not being able to give her the best is driving me to new speeds at work

using new tech at every turn

[red badge]

Just don't burn out

[dusty dew]

like AI--- I was just spectating casually years back, I got used to it in 2 hours recently

[trim idol]

Even more important when there are two wives 🙂

[dusty dew]

doubt ill be burnt fast, specially with AI

4 hours worth of my work cut to 30 minutes

[red badge]

I can't imagine having 2 wives, I don't think I'd enjoy my time

[dusty dew]

main reason rn that I wont get burned out, have to provide well for wife

[red badge]

I'm a dev, the ai still sucks for me unless I make it so specific that I could've finished coding it

[trim idol]

lol! Well, I meant two lesbians, not a poly situation

[left dove]

but poly too

[red badge]

I mean.. in that case, doesn't it mean that both partners would try hard for each other

[dusty dew]

well it still has holes, but is now useful enough that you can use AI to leverage programming skills full of holes into a good low level programmer

such as me, I am one--- but too lazy to memorize commands up

[trim idol]

It does. it's like a happy wife happy life snake eating its tail

[dusty dew]

but I can definitely form code, and AI exponentially extended my arm basically by 10x

[trim idol]

It's been shown that using AI too much measurably lowers your cognitive ability. Be careful

[left dove]

Why do women gotta be so pretty

[red badge]

My wife is staying at home - kinda jealous of her lifestyle lol. But she is studying art

[dusty dew]

its more like depends on how you use it, I use it as tool

[trim idol]

Cuz

[dusty dew]

it lowers your cog if you use it as average workload

but at cinebench tiers, such as invention stuff where you cant cover all fields

AI can help you achieve making your invention come true instead of fail 80% of the time

[unique lantern]

is crucial p3 plus good enough or is there something better at a similar/lower price, thinking of getting it for my laptop which uses gen 3

[trim idol]

what price can you get it for?

[red badge]

Stuff from teamgroup and sometimes the msi m482 if you want 2tb

[kindred halo]

Boinkiv

[dusty dew]

yeah @red badge, please dev it deeper

[kindred halo]

Guess what

[dusty dew]

I need it for me to cover my weakness in some areas, trying to develop a new type of engine

[unique lantern]

Around $65 for 1tb

[dusty dew]

you bought one?

[red badge]

A teamgroup nvme ssd is either faster for the same price or the same for a lower price

[trim idol]

Take a look at the Teamgroup MP44L. You might be able to get that for less

[kindred halo]

I found an RX 6800 for 270

Not buying AM4 anyway

[dusty dew]

gpu?

[kindred halo]

Yes

[red badge]

6800 for $270 is insane

[dusty dew]

well its decent price

[kindred halo]

Good condition too, PowerColor

[red badge]

Insane in these trying times*

[kindred halo]

16GB Red Devil

[dusty dew]

make sure it doesnt have burn mark

[kindred halo]

3070s are cheaper but not worth it

[red badge]

I got my 6800xt for $350. I see it being bought for $450-$500 now.

So adjusting it down to the 6800, $270 is a great deal

[dusty dew]

that brand tends to have burnt out 6000 series the past few years

[kindred halo]

Testing available

[dusty dew]

then yeah, get it

[red badge]

I have an asus tuf 6800xt, I love asus's products, just hate their customer support

[kindred halo]

Give it till summer till I have some moneh

[red badge]

Asus genuinely makes good products and has good ideas - they just have a bad support system

[unique lantern]

Oh yeah it is quite cheaper i can get one for $57.50

[kindred halo]

And pricing

ASUS; Good products, bad people handling

[red badge]

That too, sometimes overpriced - but the used market cuts it down to the rest

Used asus 6800xt was the same price as the other 6800xt

[kindred halo]

ASUS 5090 asking 1k more for cables that don't burn:

[red badge]

Faster and more tbw too, so overall a better ssd

[kindred halo]

No XTs here, like literally

Around.. 3 On sale at any given time in total

[red badge]

Asus 5090 also had checks on each cable

[kindred halo]

And a rear fan lmao

[red badge]

And if you had an asus psu to pair, it'd load balance

[azure topaz]

no it wouldnt

[kindred halo]

NVidia PSU

[red badge]

Asus psu + 5090 = load balancing + power checks, overall the safest combo

[kindred halo]

DLSS 4.0 Wattage

[red badge]

But expensive af

[red badge]

The asus thor psu has load balancing iirc, let me pull it up

[kindred halo]

300 real Watts, 700 AI Watts

[azure topaz]

the card can still melt

it is useless

the only way this can be changed is nvidia changing the way the connector is implemented and perhaps the connector as well

[red badge]

Fair, but asus having 2 extra important steps is not a bad thing

[azure topaz]

its a bad thing cause it does effectively nothing

if you still have 1 12v wire plugged in, you still only have 1 12v wire to loaad balance across

do you see the problem here?

[red badge]

That's where the other sensors on the asus 5090 comes in

It sees only 1 cable and limits it

[azure topaz]

if you use their bloatware and constantly eye for the notification

[red badge]

Well, on their over priced high end card

[azure topaz]

the card should just fucking turn off.

theres no if ands or buts it should turn off

[rigid fjord]

tbf, that's been a thing for intel for a long time

[red badge]

I mean I never said I was a fan of the 12v cable. I was just saying that asus has seemingly done the most to try to prevent damaging stuff given the nightmare that is the 12v

12v high failure rate cable

[azure topaz]

im not saying its a bad connector im saying these things youre talking about dont do anything

[rigid fjord]

msi have done this also

[red badge]

If I believe asus at face value, they are checking voltages, connections, and load balance

[azure topaz]

im not trying to rag on you im trying to give info

[azure topaz]

the issue is that some cables or cards or something will unplug/get loose on the power wires

there is no way to load balance a cable that is physically not real

therefore the issue is not fixed

[rigid fjord]

msi's version of the 12vhpwr cable @red badge

[red badge]

I mean the setup I was talking about had stuff on both the psu and the gpu - so it should be able to detect issues

Theoretically

[azure topaz]

if it doesnt save the card theres no point

[gleaming rose]

:3

[kindred halo]

:3

[azure topaz]

and it doesnt save the card becaause it doesnt turn it off

[gleaming rose]

i can now order anything from Japan

[rigid fjord]

2 colours on the cable so you'd know that it's plugged in fully

[azure topaz]

because the card does not know whether there is 1 or 6 12v wires plugged into it

and it does not care

the problem lies here

[cunning flume]

can someone help im trying to fix my nvidia control panel for like a month but still nothing

[azure topaz]

the card SHOULD know how many power wires are plugged into it, or at leasat have more than 1 requirement for the card to power on

[rigid fjord]

technically it is a bad connector for the current load being shoved down it

[azure topaz]

thats true but its "in spec"

but yeaah

its the entire bag of problems at once

[rigid fjord]

"in spec" to melt like nothing

[kindred halo]

#1027757333117415424

[azure topaz]

there is not really any 1 solution we can do, we have to rely on manu engineers to actually fix it rather than giving us software bandaids

[mortal fossil]

amazon or newegg

[rigid fjord]

there is a fix that could have solved this tbh

[azure topaz]

xt60 2+4?

[cunning flume]

i made a post like 3 weeks ago and no one answered me

[rigid fjord]

that would work as one fix, but tbh mini fit connector as a 2x6

[red badge]

Remember when the 5090 was rumored to have 2 of those 12v cables... it may have helped

[azure topaz]

600w going through 2 wires instead, nope

still melting

[red badge]

Have you tried ddu then reinstalling to the new nvidia drivers?

[unique lantern]

alr thanks

[lapis condor]

I mean
Thats what XT60 would do lmao

[red badge]

I was more thinking of splitting 600w through 2 separate cables

Oh you mean if it messes up

[azure topaz]

did you not read this

😭

[cunning flume]

yes i reinstaled whole nvidia app 3 times

[rigid fjord]

minifit connector pins are rated for 13amps, the nano/micro fit connectors pins are only rated for 8.5amps

[red badge]

Wouldn't sensors on the gpu fix it? Like sense if a wire is not properly in then shut down or go into super power saving mode

If the power delivery isn't proper*

[azure topaz]

again. this is the problem. it doesnt.

the card does not save itself.

[red badge]

Have communication between the psu + gpu to check the expected input

[azure topaz]

the card will draw 600w on 1 single 16awg 12v wire

[red badge]

With ddu?

Not with nvidia

[lapis condor]

The problem is lack of load balancing between the wires of the cable, not a poor connector

[azure topaz]

if you have two connectors and the same failure happens you end up with 600w on two 16awg 12v wires

[rigid fjord]

would require a gate chip so, it could do possibly, however it's no better than the use of the sense cable that you can easily blank out

[azure topaz]

regardless it is out of spec

[red badge]

Having proper communication + sensors on both the gpu and psu can do a lot more than just check connections. It could also load balance

There are probably 999 different solutions to the issue - but none of it is cost effective to be implemented universally

[azure topaz]

um

[red badge]

Just give me my 8 pins back

[azure topaz]

explain why the 3090ti's 12vhpwr was perfect with no issues

(they implemented it properly)

[limber nacelle]

relatable

wish I had more

[left dove]

I wonder if the 12vhpwr standard has any specifications on load balancing across the v+ pins

[azure topaz]

the 3090ti saw the 12vhpwr connection as 3x8pins, allowing for load balancing across 3 pairs of power wires

and it could see if they were properly connected or not

[rigid fjord]

afaik, no

[left dove]

ok if thats true then 100% of these issues are on pci-sig

yes some amount of blame is to the aib engineers

[azure topaz]

i dont think the pcie 8 pin or 6 pin has load balancing specs. its up to the implement

[azure topaz]

mini fit sigma

[left dove]

give us MEGA FIT

or mini fit max

that one sounds cuter

[rigid fjord]

mini fit being the normal one til pcie 5 power cable
nano fit being basically what nvidia is now using

[azure topaz]

yeah

micro fit+ would bee dope

for a not large pin pitch increasee

[rigid fjord]

the connectors differences

[left dove]

those are expensive-ass connector sets

god mega-fit is probably $20 a connector

but it looks so COOL

[rigid fjord]

we could have just been just using minifit connectors still

instead of 2x4 in multiple sets, a straight up 2x6/2x8 would have worked straight away

[limpid dune]

did PCI-SIG design 12VHPWR?

oh they did

[dusty dew]

nope, give us WIRELESS

[limpid dune]

maybe we should just do what the car industry does for their 10,000A 12VDC connections:

[left dove]

tbh yeah lets commit to that board mounted power connector

[frail topaz]

such tiny cables

[empty quartz]

Bro is flabbergasted over me booping his nose

[rigid fjord]

wire current loads per distance @azure topaz

[azure topaz]

yeah instead of melting connectors we get fucking fires awesome

[dusty dew]

its now too ridiculous that gpu power needs to be designed to the mb

[left dove]

use xt60

itd be so ezpz

[frail topaz]

lets just use an 24pin for the gpu too

might as well at this point

[left dove]

REDUCE PIN COUNT

[dusty dew]

motherboards with extinguishers

[azure topaz]

15a/12ga looks good

[dusty dew]

[empty quartz]

Fun fact about electricity; power companies typically use dc for long distances because ac will have far more losses over the same distance

[red badge]

Ah I get it now
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/s/jNsxl5AjIJ

[limpid dune]

I'm only half kidding, honestly I'd be down for GPU connectors that are just two big bolt-down terminals. If you put a little cover on it, I'm sure you could make it look "gamer". Bonus points because it lets you route cables at 90 degrees

[rigid fjord]

on 12awg you could do 20a on a short distance easily

[azure topaz]

yeah for sure

[red badge]

Isn't it the opposite?

[empty quartz]

No

[left dove]

thread-on posts so you can have styled post heads

[red badge]

Ac became popular because dc couldn't go very far

[azure topaz]

ya

[red badge]

Which is why our psus convert ac to dc

[azure topaz]

xt60 might actually work here guys

[distant basalt]

btw is anyone here using one of those frankenstein x99 xeon combos from aliexpress?

[red badge]

I feel like you're trolling

[azure topaz]

i dont recommend it

[distant basalt]

i mean yeah its janky as hell

[azure topaz]

but. miyconst on youtube is very informative when it comes to thosee

[sick wharf]

hey guys i got a question, how come discord picks up my system audio even with my mic disconnected?

[empty quartz]

I know this because my dad (now is retired) has his masters in electrical engineering, and worked on the 500kv transmission lines

[azure topaz]

please get all your info from him and his sourcees

https://www.youtube.com/@Miyconst

[rigid fjord]

that screw shoved there is triggering

[azure topaz]

hes the china mobo guy

[distant basalt]

thanks! any specific video you recommend as a allrounder cautionary tale or just ANY

[empty quartz]

I initially read that as misogynist

[dusty dew]

lol Civ 7 is currently a mess @rigid fjord

[azure topaz]

whatever fits your board, hes probably done a review/video on what you have

[distant basalt]

😭

[distant basalt]

okay thanks again!

[azure topaz]

mhmm mhm yw

[lapis condor]

or xt90

[rigid fjord]

hows it acting?

[dusty dew]

lots of OP stuff I really wonder why, but I wanna buy that thing

[red badge]

Yup, there's the added context. DC is only better at very high voltages going very long distances

Otherwise, ac is typically better for distance runs

[dusty dew]

too much exploits, like you can triple stack catherine the great perks ingame \

[limpid dune]

TLDR: all wires will have resistance of course, but AC current also incurs resistance because of the fluctuating magnetic field, which doesn't happen in DC. This is why power companies often build big expensive converters that convert AC to high voltage DC for long distance transmission, and then convert it back when it gets there. If the wire is long enough, the power savings make it worth converting. Your friendly neighborhood power pole is def AC though

originally, Nikola Tesla invented AC to make it easier to build electric motors

[empty quartz]

Whats your source?

[lapis condor]

physics and wikipedia

[plush wren]

bro is into electricity

[rigid fjord]

anderson connector 😉

[dusty dew]

or have a roman LEGION beat a modern tank(just like a FX 8370X3D beating Ultra 7 285V) @rigid fjord

[empty quartz]

😳

[steep heath]

if we use the price of 14 cents per kwh, and it takes about 2.5 kwh to desalinize 1 cubic meter of water, and theres, 1,3 billion cubic meters of water... wouldnt it only cost like 378 million to turn all that water into drinking water, this is of course ignoring the dead animals from removing the salt, but thats kinda wild that you could make all that drinking water using reverse osmosis

[plush wren]

[empty quartz]

Fx 8370x3d?

[azure topaz]

what

[dusty dew]

metaphorical, but would be fun seeing

[limpid dune]

I'm a quantum physicist and computer engineer who works at a quantum computing company doing atomic simulations

but more impressive; my 4080 Super can hold +1650MHz VRAM clocks 😎

[trim idol]

I don't know a ton about ASRock PSUs, but this looks like a decent bundle
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4763278

[empty quartz]

Fx failed for a reason

[azure topaz]

i dont think you quite understand why fx was as bad as it was

[plush wren]

[trim idol]

B570 and 650W PSU for $279

[rigid fjord]

cheaper to dig at a natural spring and pump from an aquafer

[empty quartz]

Gimme :3

[red badge]

Where do you store the clean water? Since if you put it back into the ocean- surely it's a lot less efficient at cleaning the salt lol

[trim idol]

link above 🙂

[empty quartz]

Omw to drive there and consume them

[steep heath]

i mean you could pump it back into the ocean...

[trim idol]

lol

[plush wren]

in my stomach

[azure topaz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgejkSWzvNs

[limpid dune]

time traveller: "oh gee I hope I didn't mess up the timeline"

the timeline: AMD Ryzen 7 FX-8350X3D DESTROYS the Intel Pentium 7

[red badge]

You put it back into the ocean. Then you now have the same volume of water that has salt - just less of it

[empty quartz]

Idk why, but my brain went to thinking about lga 771 quad core xeons when seeing this

[red badge]

I'm sure the desalination plants are based on volume of water - not the amount of salt

[steep heath]

eventually you would keep going and that would remove all the salt...

[red badge]

True, it would just take a lot longer than your initial calculations

[dusty dew]

Pentium 7, stuck at 14nm +++++++.....

[plush wren]

[empty quartz]

@trim idol wanna see a funny cpu?

[limpid dune]

don't you put the clean water... into the water system? like, that's the part you drink?

[trim idol]

always

[limpid dune]

OOH okay desalinating the ocean, gotcha

[red badge]

Well if we're talking about cleaning the entire ocean

Lol

[empty quartz]

Intels way of getting quad cores

[trim idol]

what the.....

[rigid fjord]

anderson connectors, and more secure than the xt60/90

[frank spindle]

Did best buy forgor to drop their 5070TIs?

[trim idol]

"It's one CPU... I swear"

[red badge]

Oh btw I used an fx cpu! They pretty much gave it for -$50 but only if I got a motherboard + gpu with it

[empty quartz]

Yes, intel essentially duct taped 2 cpus together to make a quad core

[dusty dew]

basically 2 c2ds

[limpid dune]

this chip was designed by a junior engineer, John Ryzen, who would later leave Intel and found his own company; AMD

[azure topaz]

it would be hard to realistically do an implement like this through 2 pins cause even 12ga wire only does like 20a

[red badge]

Fx 8320 was free, r9 380 was -$50, but I had to also buy a motherboard

They were trying to get rid of fx + motherboard stock lol

[steep heath]

it was more so, how it wouldnt take that much and some of the more wealthy people could actually do it and make, more drinking water for the world,

[trim idol]

I still have an FX 8350 system. I kinda love it. I call it big red

[empty quartz]

Cant tell if you’re joking or not

[frail topaz]

do i be a dumbass

[rigid fjord]

me who causally has wired up 10awg with 30a

[empty quartz]

No

[limpid dune]

it is literally exactly two C2Ds, they literally just took two dual-socket CPUs and put them in the same socket. They arn't even plugged into each other, they communicate through the chipset 😭

[azure topaz]

well i mean im goin by spec

[trim idol]

oof

[azure topaz]

20a/ft

[red badge]

Iirc, it's cheaper to send water over than to build plants, pay for workers, maintain the plant, and get the fresh water back in many countries

[empty quartz]

Yes and no

[red badge]

Hence why we send water instead of doing all that

[limpid dune]

imagine a 7950X3D except with no I/O die. The CCDs are synchronized through your chipset

[empty quartz]

I used to daily drive an lga 771 system @limpid dune

[rigid fjord]

yes but 12v 30a, so............

[empty quartz]

They do act as 1 cpu and work very well for that

[azure topaz]

myfault

thats still like 360w

[fresh escarp]

insane how i've upgraded my pc to where i'm happy it being in the recommended sections, kindof my dream ;D

[rigid fjord]

360w on 2 wires

[azure topaz]

yea

youd need tuah of em

[red badge]

Desalination plant = land, workers, upkeep, electricity.
To get that electricity, you need a better source of electricity in many areas that need fresh water.
So now you need to pay for a better energy source + power plant, then you keep going down the line.

But shipping water over or building a well is cheaper in most areas

[empty quartz]

@trim idol whats worse about that; is that my 2008 mac pro that i used to daily had 4 cpus (technically speaking)

[frank spindle]

820 for a new 7900xt is under resale price right?

[limpid dune]

ayy, I have an FX-8350 that I daily at 5.0GHz. it can hit 5.2GHz if I put it outside on a snowy day because canada

[empty quartz]

It was using lga 771 with ram that is notorious for running hot as fuck

[trim idol]

I have mine up around 5GHz as well.I forget exactly where it sits.

[red badge]

Cad or us?

[steep heath]

also not a long term solution though

[red badge]

True, but the cost to set it up + maintain is so prohibitively high that they can't afford the upkeep

[limpid dune]

I mean, the LGA771 still used the old system where the MMU was in the chipset, so all RAM signals had to go through the chipset (because that's where the RAM was connected). Doodoofart latencies were just kind of normal

[trim idol]

It's pretty decent right now

[rigid fjord]

still be safer than using nano-fit

[red badge]

Like shipping water tends to be cheaper than the upkeep

[limpid dune]

RAM latencies? what's an L3 cache? cmon bro, it's 2005 and the new pentium 4 can hit 3.5 GHz

[red badge]

Build a well whenever possible ofc

[frank spindle]

US

[red badge]

Fun fact, in some places in Mexico, Coca-Cola was cheaper than fresh water. So they drink a lot of coke instead, ruining their health

[rigid fjord]

though anderson connectors are a bitch to pull apart without an added in handle for them @azure topaz

[limpid dune]

one must imagine sisyphus trying to remove an ATX motherboard connector

[red badge]

Imo probably not worth. It was much cheaper until recently, and the 9070xt is likely to be about the same performance for less if it doesn't go out of stock

[limpid dune]

the big power one, idk what it's called

[red badge]

24 pin?

[limpid dune]

yeah, the 24 pin. they should make skyscrapers out of those things, given how strong they are

[red badge]

The gigabyte ax370 rev1 board I have in my wife's system is a little irregular and not the standard atx board... so it overhangs a bit with non standard screw holes on the right side(so I can't screw them down). So whenever I plug and unplug the 24 pin, I have to hold it from behind or else it flexes lol

[rigid fjord]

it's just a 2x12 molex 5557 connector tbf

[boreal vine]

I think a keyboard for the first time has given me mental illness

a cherry viola k60 board with SA keycaps is not the play

[limpid dune]

12VHPWR

• 600W
• 12 pins, small
• catches fire, weak aura

24-pin ATX

• 150W
• 24 chunky pins (feat. sensing lines)
• not one single fire in 40 years of use

why doesn't nvidia simply use 4 24-pin connectors for the 5090?

[red badge]

Is it hard to type on?

[boreal vine]

this fucking this is HIDEOUS

[chilly pawn]

tried downloading windows to my new ssd still ain’t working but if this helps i already have windows on my old ssd cause this is a prebuilt

[boreal vine]

it's not really hard to type on it's just really really really weird

[red badge]

Why doesn't nvidia just attach a psu to the card and let us plug it into the wall?

[boreal vine]

the pressure curve is absurd

going from 45 grams to something like 80 on the bottom out

[limpid dune]

why does nvidia bother with VRMs? simply feed 120VAC directly into the silicon, this will cause 0 issues I'm sure

[boreal vine]

the RGB is really pretty but man this thing is weird all around

[red badge]

Just up the frame gen every year too

[boreal vine]

no wonder cherry violas didn't take off

[red badge]

Instead of upgrading things, release 6x frame gen

[rigid fjord]

@azure topaz@lapis condor@left dove mc4, best one to handle 600w over 2 wires

[left dove]

too bulky

[limpid dune]

"but the AC signal will mean the GPU reboots 60 times every second" okay??? so?? it'll just generate one frame every time it reboots, easy

[left dove]

see theres this thing called a rectifier

[red badge]

Eventually we'll have mini fusion generators, we can get one specifically for the new nvidia xx90 gpu in 2090

[rigid fjord]

nah, it would mean the gpu comes with the wire to directly plug into the psu

[trim idol]

What fresh hell is this conversation?

[red badge]

Time to make a new topic.
Samsung dex is the future of computing

[trim flicker]

i have no clue

[red badge]

When our phones are fast enough - we can use our phones as pcs anywhere

[trim idol]

Woot! I just sold my i7 9700k system with a B580 GPU for $750

[rigid fjord]

technically already out, but takes a long time to build, produces 5MW per reactor

[red badge]

Just get a nexdock or something

[red badge]

Fusion or fission?

[true stirrup]

Awesome

[trim idol]

I want my already existing 5MW fusion reactor 😄

I've already laid in my supply of tritium

[red badge]

Fusion has only recently been net positive in energy

[rigid fjord]

can't remember which, but they're known as SMR's

[red badge]

I want mini fusion generators that are just attached to my house. I'll get a 2nd one for my xx90 gpu

[trim idol]

It would be fission. that's where atoms are split

Commercial Fusion is still 10 years away

[red badge]

Yea, fission is the only one that we can actually do for a profit lol

[red badge]

Always 10 years away

[trim idol]

10 years = Soon(TM)

[red badge]

What will come out first, fusion generators or elder scrolls 6?

ES6 was announced in 2018

It's been 7 years

[trim idol]

Just 10 more to go!

[trim flicker]

i blew the power grid 4 times in separate countries and now i am globally wanted for millions worth in damages trying to make a fusion generator

[fresh escarp]

how could i see msrp for sapphire pulse rx 6600 xt 8gb?

[trim flicker]

by googling it

[tidal geyser]

why

[indigo basin]

this image is AI

[red badge]

It's actually surprisingly easy to mess up the grid in at least a smaller area

[indigo basin]

we are so cooked

[red badge]

How?

[fresh escarp]

Very helpful, thanks

[trim flicker]

yw

[indigo basin]

ai has figured out how to do what happens to cameras in low light conditions

we are cooked
the prompt was just anicent china

[gloomy sleet]

guys

i have obtained a 1.5mb floppy

what do i put on it

[indigo basin]

a trollface

[trim flicker]

doom

[fresh escarp]

Doom

[indigo basin]

i thought doom takes up more space than that

[fresh escarp]

You can cave dive in it

[plain cypress]

Draw a copy of the Mona Lisa on the cover

[gloomy sleet]

where could i find a 1.5mb version of doom

[rigid fjord]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cc1j-MbVVA apparently soon to be able to have a mini reactor in a 40t container's footprint

[red badge]

Definitely fission, but still cool

[rigid fjord]

gog.com maybe

[gloomy sleet]

idk if that one is 1.5mb

shit

[steel umbra]

Is it just my system or cinebench sucks at loading x3d cpus?

Doesn't take advantage of the l3 cache

[rigid fjord]

cinebench shows more for production use, and tbf the cache isn't a great use for that

[trim idol]

The L3 cache is shared across all cores, so its most useful for workloads where the cores need to swap data, or one core picks up another core's work.

Cinebench doesn't do that as much. Each core gets its task and does it till its done, so it doesn't need to swap data with other cores.

[steel umbra]

For instance sandboxes make my 7800x3d generate more heat than cinebench

with non x3ds it's the opposite

[trim idol]

yeah, probably a lot of core hopping for sandboxes

[rigid fjord]

found the old image i wanted, @azure topaz this gives you a general idea of what each gauged wire can max out at

[steel umbra]

Explains

P95 hmmm

[trim idol]

Still riding the high of making my first jawa.gg sale 🙂

[trim flicker]

nice

[limpid dune]

cinebench and 3Dmark overwhelmingly prefer Intel silicon 😅 they don't do as much of a pointer-chasing workload as, say, a badly-written Unity game

[mortal mantle]

@limpid dune how did you get 1000 Mhz on VRAM

[trim idol]

Shit's crazy out there. This is more than I paid for thsi card...

[trim flicker]

jeeze

[eternal cloak]

I still don't have a German accent lmfao

[mortal mantle]

like for me anything above 930 causes either crashes or driver timeouts

[steel umbra]

Universe sandbox, max out settings before the engine gets hammered for maximum gpu heat!

[limpid dune]

4080 Supers are weird; Nvidia specced them with 26Gb/s VRAM but they're clocked at 24Gb/s inorder to match the 4080 non-super. So you can basically bump them up to 26.5Gb/s with no fear.

Other cards will behave differently, but yeah, I added a +1650MT/s offset to my VRAM and it's stable, giving me ~13,000MT/s total

[dusky crest]

So

[limpid dune]

||with that plus an undervolt, it's almost as powerful as the 5080 😭 😭 😭 ||

[mortal mantle]

not 40 series

[dusky crest]

I need an at least 500gb 2280 m.2 sata drive
I fully know nvme is faster, but the computer only takes m. 2 sata
Where does one find such drive that's reliable?

[trim idol]

teamgroup MP33

[steel umbra]

4080 super ti

[steel umbra]

Where do you live

[trim idol]

oh wait no

[limpid dune]

remember that 40 series GPUs use PAM4 signalling on the VRAM bus, which means there are effectively 8 transfers per clock. the true VRAM clock is 1438MHz but there are 11,500MT/s

[trim idol]

the teamgroup MS30 is the sata.
https://www.amazon.com/TEAMGROUP-512GB-Solid-State-Drive/dp/B07H21182F/

[dusky crest]

Thanks, will note that down

[trim idol]

I have one of those in a system rn 🙂

[dusky crest]

Oh

[trim idol]

Yeah, note that one down, not the first one, lol

[dusky crest]

Yup, just edited the note

[mortal mantle]

also why did I even need to OC my RX Vega 56 just so Persona 3 Reload wouldn't stutter

[brave brook]

yet another american system which makes no sense. Why increasing number means decreasing diameter 😄

[dusky crest]

Basically when a have a bit more cash to spare, I'll fully fix my macbook
It has a known issue of display cable frying the mainboard, so I'll retrofit like a portable monitor into it, just so it can be used as a laptop again because currently it is on the edge of that issue

[ripe spire]

lmao

[azure topaz]

dir /s

couulda done tree that wouldve been cool

[dusky crest]

Fooled some of my classmates that i know hacking

[strange atlas]

Does anybody in here have a setup with 90x60 table setup?

I wonder what can i do for mine to make it look better

[limpid dune]

types in "ancient china"
AI draws neon lights
"SO REALISTIC"

[strange atlas]

Anybody knows if i can put normal sized graphics card in a mini atx case i have sent the parts i have on the right

[olive sierra]

what is a zipbomb and what happens to my pc if i uhh, unzipped it?

[rigid fjord]

tbf there's also swg which is numbered the same, where the higher number = lower current rated wire capacity, i.e. 30awg/swg = 1 amp

[strong sail]

btw rtx laptops havent gone up in price

so ppl can go for those if youre looking to get sm new instead of a gpu

its still funny i can sell my used gpu for more than i bought it rn

[limber nacelle]

shush

also welcome back 🙂

[strong sail]

sigh

[white sphinx]

They actually launched it this time? Not a paper launch?

Surprising

[limber nacelle]

wdym, the 4070 super has been out for a while now

[strong sail]

its fb marketplace

[random gyro]

💀

[white sphinx]

Oh im tripping i just saw the 70 and assumed it was a 5070 lmao

[steel umbra]

A dual for €799..

[strong sail]

this used to be listed at 1800 just before

even pc builders are raising prices

and its used

[olive sierra]

PC so expensive now, thats why i havent gotten a new one in around a decade

[steel umbra]

Gpu prices are sort of stagnating both used and new

[olive sierra]

I definetly would like a new and better machine but its just too much

[steel umbra]

Nvydia created new mini crisis

[strong sail]

these were 500 just 6 months ago...

[strong sail]

[strange atlas]

can you fit an big 3 fan rx 6800 in a mini atx case?

[white sphinx]

2700$

[strong sail]

with vat included it isnt TOO off

2000 usd + 25% vat = 2500 usd

[white sphinx]

Its been used for 8 months

[strong sail]

oh wait its 4090 not 5090

[white sphinx]

Yeah

[strong sail]

nvm

[white sphinx]

Ridiculous

[strong sail]

50 bux more than msrp for used

[charred sundial]

I'm back.

Should I get cable extensions? They're only for looks, correct?

[solemn rover]

Everything else is just negative. Another point of failure (bad connection etc), costs money

[copper swallow]

Im so awkward dude

My boss got emotional today because she was quittin and cried with me and 1 coworker. I didnt know what to say to her so patted her on her back and i said "it's gonna be alright" and left for lunch 😭😭

[fresh escarp]

So i've realized the new gpu i'll have has newer pcie, and my motherboard do be ancient, i'm kinda sad and bit stressed, i've seen how the gpu performs generally and i wonder if it's going to be rly bad that it's on a motherboard like in the image text?

[solemn rover]

You will be fine
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-6600-xt-pci-express-scaling/25.html

[warm sage]

you might be able to still find a dual fan asus 7900gre just like that on amazon. last time i checked it was actually from amazon uk

[strong sail]

a 7900xt is cheaper here

[warm sage]

yeah but there are no dual fan versions i kno of

[strong sail]

nah i just found the price funny

i have a 6950xt

[iron terrace]

guys will chieftronic powerplay 750fc 80 gold be enough for r7 5700x3d and 7900 xt (PERHAPS maybe even XTX not sure) ?

[warm sage]

oh i thought u were looking for parts lol, 6950xt is god tier

[strong sail]

ehhh i got it used and it doesnt feel too greta bth

tbh*, im probably upgrading my cpu tho

[silver vigil]

Put it into pc parts picker and check wattage and if it’s at least 100-200 above the recommended then you’re good

[warm sage]

how come thermal paste doesnt spill off the cpu edges?

[thin plover]

not enough paste

for that to happen

[silver vigil]

Friction and physics

[solemn rover]

650W with a 7900 XTX would most likely work as well.
CPU 200W max ish
GPU 370W max ish
Rest of system maybe 30W

[warm sage]

im just asking cuz its so weird how people put so much thermal paste sometimes and it just doesnt spill lol. probably something to do with surface tension

[strong sail]

wanna get this

[iron terrace]

ye but transiest spikes ( around 450w as far as i see on web ) look scary on xtx

[warm sage]

why does that actually seem so cheap

[strong sail]

its not too bad

its average amazon prices

plus free shipping

[warm sage]

amazon so expensive sometimes in us

[strong sail]

theres way better laptop deals here

[solemn rover]

The PSU should be able to handle transient spikes unless its garbage.

Im personally on a 12900k and rtx 3070 with a 550W or 650W psu (dont remember)

[silver vigil]

It also probably does when the cpu heats up and the paste becomes more viscus

[iron terrace]

u think the psu is good built tho? Its placed high in A tier on cultist tierlist but i cant find any reviews on net about it

[silver vigil]

If it’s name brand and high star rating with a decent amount of reviews you’ll be alright homie

Just as long as it isn’t some hella cheap one

[glad fog]

if it's on the tier list. but still you should be able to find reviews for it.

[vale saddle]

i accidentally deleted my message lol

[silver vigil]

Why the dude with the 2070 delete his question its valid, no stupid questions in of building just stupid fuck ups

[vale saddle]

mistake bro

[hallow fog]

guys how many pins does a 5080 need and a 5090 too pls

[silver vigil]

All good

[strong sail]

https://www.skroutz.gr

[silver vigil]

What was the question

[warm sage]

yeah u wont notice too much until you turn on fram gen ||(joke lol)||

[vale saddle]

Does anyone know the preformance increase i will have switching from a rtx 2070 super to a 5070ti in After Effects?

[strong sail]

some good dealss here for eu peeps

[warm sage]

what i meant to say

[strong sail]

https://gaminglaptop.deals
@warm sage daily laptop deals

[silver vigil]

A pretty good increase in performance like very noticeable

[strong sail]

4080 laptop for 1900 usd on here rn

[iron terrace]

its there but theres not many reviews about it

[glad fog]

which one?

[iron terrace]

chieftec / chieftronic powerplay gold

[silver vigil]

Probably double the performance

[vale saddle]

thats amazing then cause the 8gb vram currently isn’t holding its own weight

[strong sail]

[silver vigil]

8gbs won’t do you good in 2024 the 16 will be a huge boost also with the better and way more cuda cores

[vale saddle]

It comes next week i managed to get #2 queue postion in scan UK for the gpu

[silver vigil]

Hell yeah

[warm sage]

holy crap what

[strong sail]

its a damn good deal

[rose stream]

I'm certain there would be a massive difference there.

[strong sail]

we dont have deals like that here xd

[silver vigil]

I hope you were able to get the msrp btw

[vale saddle]

Msrp doesn’t exist 😂

[fresh escarp]

oh my thank you, much love, i had such panik, didn't know they had that on the website, calmed me down by a lot gawd daym xd

[rose stream]

So as long as you're not editing raw 4k or 8k footage anyway. Lol.

[vale saddle]

Umm about that…

[silver vigil]

Yeah you’re right 💀 I would have waited personally but if you didn’t then who cares, you’re money and your time

[rose stream]

[vale saddle]

I paid £900 for the white gigabyte one

[silver vigil]

😐

[weary nacelle]

is this a decent build (my first ever build and it is £823.50)

[vale saddle]

Well i upscale from 1080p to 4k then put it into after effects

[keen isle]

If it says ssd required, can I still use an hdd (its the only one I have rn with enough storage)

[silver vigil]

Damn rip youll probably be happy with it either way considering the boost you’ll get from the 2070

[fresh escarp]

Was wondering too, technically im in recommended section, unless ssd is very big deal for them

[keen isle]

I would reccomend AMD for that budget, but it looks decent

[vale saddle]

I even dropped another 240 on a new case and aio

[silver vigil]

What did you get

[rose stream]

Hold up. Why wouldn't you upscale in AE rather than before? Like what's the thought process here even?

[strong sail]

anyone here know the difference between acer predator helios and triton?

[vale saddle]

ae doesn’t have it built in?

[gusty wagon]

Is amd more efficient than intel for light tasks?

[silver vigil]

Depends on for what

[high elm]

lmao i paid msrp in my country for the gigashit eagle oc one

[rose stream]

I'd imagine they're around the same or the difference is very marginal, enough not to matter.

[vale saddle]

First one is gpu sag btw

I can’t believe i paid an extra £80 cause i want a screen on my aio

[rose stream]

Is it possible to use plugins to solve or is that another thing AE can't do either?

[silver vigil]

I wanted to so bad when I was building mine a few months ago but I didn’t wanna shill the money out I already spent 2100 usd

[limber nacelle]

isn't an issue if you get a decent psu

[high elm]

its only £80 its fine

[vale saddle]

wait i think i saw a plugin which intoplates and upscales

[limber nacelle]

balls fucking chat was scrolled up

[gleaming rose]

woohooo pizza for dinner

[limber nacelle]

ignore that i'm going to blow myself up bye

[vale saddle]

That makes it £180 total for the aio

[high elm]

for an aio its really bad pricing for sure

[gleaming rose]

also should i buy the evangelion perfume/cologne
or maybe the tensura perfume/cologne

[high elm]

what cpu you getting

[silver vigil]

But screen though

[rose stream]

Well now you noticed then. Lmao.

[vale saddle]

im just upgrading the gpu and everything else is looks like the case and aio

[high elm]

just put a raspberry pi screen in the case lol

[silver vigil]

What cpu are you running?

[trim flicker]

lmfao

[high elm]

oh

[fresh escarp]

got a used gpu Sapphire RX 6600 XT
Pulse OC for 185eur, msrp around 400ish eur

[vale saddle]

R9 5900x

overclocked it

[high elm]

alright ig

[vale saddle]

is that a good combo?

[high elm]

5070ti/5900x?

[silver vigil]

Possibly might run into a heavy cpu bottleneck but I mean who cares

You could upgrade later you’ll already get a good performance boost

[rose stream]

[silver vigil]

What I was with my 5600x and 4070 ti super

[vale saddle]

Yh

[high elm]

p good yeah

u could run a 4k display and be fine

[rose stream]

And how is that a bottleneck exactly?

[vale saddle]

The option i had was upgrade to am5 and get the best ram and cpu available now or new gpu

[rose stream]

Solely for gaming or also for heavy video editing too?

[vale saddle]

Gaming too

[blissful gazelle]

just scored a free lenovo think centre

[silver vigil]

I was running 100% cpu and like 70% gpu gaming

[rose stream]

If the latter, then I'd take a point given from a guy who runs a studio for a living from last night and just... Not upgrade to anything with DDR5, if you also value stability.

[rose stream]

On which games exactly?

[weary nacelle]

is thgis a good pc build (my first build and it costs £823.55)

[rose stream]

Well, if you also use high-res cameras too with some specific hardware setups anyway.

[gusty wagon]

But speed

[vale saddle]

Go on am5 so its future proof

Am4 has no more room to grow

[rose stream]

Cinema-grade setups are fairly unusual in their requirements.

[weary nacelle]

what is a am5

[plush wren]

socket

[rose stream]

A socket type.

[vale saddle]

its the clipset

[weary nacelle]

oh ok

[rose stream]

No. It's literally a socket type.

[gusty wagon]

AM5 is better than AM4 by AM1

[vale saddle]

what he said

[silver vigil]

Space marine 2

[trim flicker]

chipset* and you are still wrong

[weary nacelle]

i will look for a better one

[rose stream]

They already got that. Lol.

[lapis condor]

Better what?

[gusty wagon]

Any AMD 7000 or 9000 CPUs

[silver vigil]

Why is that?

[weary nacelle]

motherboard because the person said am4 is bad

when i try filter it for am5 it only comes up with am4

[trim flicker]

always best to have two inputs than one

[primal void]

Thoughts? I am really interested about your opinions about am4

[plush wren]

hate on am4 💔

[vale saddle]

Am4 isn’t bad its just has NO ROOM for upgrades and there’s newer and better for the same prices or similar

[trim flicker]

this is beyond stupid

[lapis condor]

Do you have an am4 CPU already selected

[gusty wagon]

My 5800X3D still beats 14700 in most gaming workloads

[weary nacelle]

i think so

[lapis condor]

That is why you're only getting AM4 boards

[rose stream]

Something more than likely to do with DDR5's nature of operation, especially on the current systems that use that memory type, though it's probably something very specific in technicality and I'm not entirely sure of what that would be.

[weary nacelle]

it is a AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor

[lapis condor]

This feels like it was made when Zen1 came out

[trim flicker]

looks like 2017

[vale saddle]

ok let me try help you out let me go on pc part picker

[weary nacelle]

ok

[gusty wagon]

Too many people helping out E

[tidal geyser]

yup that extra cache is insane

[gusty wagon]

Go submit a #1106613567966429224

[weary nacelle]

it is very good i need alot of help#

[trim flicker]

wish i had people help me with e

[weary nacelle]

i did alrwady

[forest lotus]

Hmm I do hope my new keyboard ends up being nice. It's semi mechanical

[gusty wagon]

Yeah

AM5 is 7000 and 9000 series CPUs

[forest lotus]

Mecha membrane. I think I can deal with that

[tidal geyser]

wellll

[plush wren]

8000

[forest lotus]

/8000 series APUs

[tidal geyser]

there is ryzen 8000

[rose stream]

Yooouu sure it's not something like this per chance?
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2183900/discussions/0/4852155593258042815/

[tidal geyser]

but we do not talk about those

[gusty wagon]

I'm not entertaining this

[weary nacelle]

this is my first ever pc build

[forest lotus]

I mean ryzen 8k is good for just APUs.

[plush wren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/940640298344788021/1271190373141577810/togif.gif

[gusty wagon]

No, you need gnrh agonists

[forest lotus]

And iirc really good at ram overclocking cause APU go brrrr

[weary nacelle]

i need an upgrade because rn i have a laptop with a 3080 ti

[tidal geyser]

monolithic

[weary nacelle]

i think

[gusty wagon]

Wrong channel

[primal void]

14700kf benchmark from a psychopath

[vale saddle]

Gpu prices are absolutely shit used and new so being under £860 is hard i suggest waiting for the 50 series to cool down then buy

[forest lotus]

That's the big thing that makes the difference for ram OC fr

[silver vigil]

Hm interesting I’m only on the gaming side of pcs so I didn’t know that

[weary nacelle]

oh

[gusty wagon]

But what about 65w

[south arrow]

Up for now my tc1 lovelys ❤️

[silver vigil]

Could have been that’s around the time I got the game, got my new pc last last month

[weary nacelle]

my laptop is 3080 laptop gpu , 11th gen intel core i7 11800h 2.30ghz

[hard cedar]

Old system is still running good cpu at 11 degeres celcius constantly and gpu is at 40 celcius

[primal void]

Idk, 300w 8p cores in linpack>>>>

[rose stream]

Then in other words, it's probably a software issue, not a bottleneck issue.

[vale saddle]

@weary nacelle whats your max max price for the pc alone

[weary nacelle]

around 800

[gusty wagon]

I can power both my cpu and my 6800XT with that

[silver vigil]

Fair enough I stand corrected thanks homie

[azure topaz]

your cpu is not at 11c

your cpu just uses a weird measurement

[hard cedar]

yes it is

[weary nacelle]

it can go abit above tho

[rose stream]

And I'm saying that as someone running a 7900XT, which is close to the same performance as a 4070 Ti Super... Paired with a Ryzen 3600.

[azure topaz]

that would mean his room is 51 degrees fahrenheit

you cant have a computer colder than the ambient temperature of your room

[primal void]

I can power my R5 5500 and rx570 4gb with that 🥴