tech-chat-1

[high elm]

have yall ever dealt with the asus rma process

my fucking rog z790 has been with asus for "repairs" for 2 months

[pallid temple]

Yea i did it took 4 months😭 for a b650

[turbid dirge]

Hi

[ripe spire]

I have a 3D printed case for mine

[turbid dirge]

My motherboards RGB is not syncing with my fans and CPU Cooler where I used to sync them all with the Deepcool ARGB Controller

It's like Whenever I try to select one color for example - Green, But RAM & Mobo color would go the opposite color like in the image

[high elm]

they told me to pay $99 to repair it too

and the bloody service centre is in my country

no way it takes that long

unless they send it to taiwan

the told me "repair lead time 30 days" its been 2 months

[grizzled ingot]

Hello I need a little help

[trim flicker]

ive heard its a worse experience than being shot in the foot

[grizzled ingot]

Unlock Login Keyring message appearing when opening Chrome

[trim flicker]

#1027757333117415424

[high elm]

intel gave me a brand new cpu within 15 days of me contacting them

didnt even ask for payment nor a receipt

asus asked for $99 wtf'

and its been 2 months

[trim flicker]

lol

assus

[lapis condor]

The Asus Experience TM

[high elm]

i legit might just walk down to their service centre and fix the board myself

like bro wtf

[grizzled ingot]

@trim flicker how much does it take for somebody to help me?

[turbid dirge]

If someone could assist me with this please https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1338436302680363028 🙂

[lost peak]

Ok so I got a 450 watt power supply
Assus mother board
16 gigs of ddr4
Ruzen 5 3600
And a gtx 960

Would I have to swap the power supply if I replace my 960 with a nvidia titan x

[turbid dirge]

Whats the TDP of that card?

[true stirrup]

You should be fine but you will be pushing the limit

[turbid dirge]

Depends on what other peripherals you have installed

[true stirrup]

Very pushing it

[lost peak]

Would it be passing or just pushing

[true stirrup]

Pushing

And it depends on the quality of the PSU as well

Like your CPU and GPU alone can draw up to around max 310W

[lost peak]

It's a cx450

By corsair

[lost peak]

So would I be good?

[trim flicker]

eeby

[true stirrup]

Okay so it's a good PSU
I think you should be good

[rigid fjord]

ideal for doing a sleaper build in

[lost peak]

W
I'll probably have to undervolt it though wouldn't i

[lapis condor]

Yes

[turbid dirge]

Following up on this

[nova lantern]

Hey guys, Windows seems to be crashing after it auto-installs an update for the below:
Security Intelligence Update for Microsoft Defender Antivirus - KB2267602 (Version 1.421.1808.0) - Current Channel (Broad)
PC freezes and shuts off
Any ideas?

[lapis condor]

But also why are you getting a titan x

[rigid fjord]

a life time

[lost peak]

The minimum is 450 watts for a titan x

[lost peak]

Because I'd love to own a titan series gpu

[true stirrup]

You can't undervolt an Nvidia card without workarounds but you can power limit it
But I don't think you will have to

[lost peak]

Ok

[lost peak]

And also it's an upgrade over my 960 4 gig

[nova lantern]

Literally why would a security update crash my PC

[lost peak]

My graphics card atm is 10 years old

💀

I hope this is true.

[nova lantern]

ehhhh

[lapis condor]

Get Titan V :)

[lost peak]

I'd have to replace my power supply

I'm tryna be cost efficient

Also isn't a titan v like 4 grand

[lapis condor]

If you buy one new sure
But no sane person would do that

[lost peak]

It requires a 600 watt power supply

I don't wanna install another power supply

[limber nacelle]

royal core :C

[lost peak]

Because I don't wanna do it wrong and fry my shit

[limber nacelle]

[rip]

[random girder]

If it makes you feel any better my 1660 died and took my PSU with it. Not only did I have to spend monies on an rtx 4060 (it was on sale for a good price) but I had to get a new PSU. This happened the day after I paid my college tuition ☺️

[limber nacelle]

I've seen one for 400 cad before

[lost peak]

Power supply

[limber nacelle]

has good fp64 perf iirc but like

I wouldn't buy one other than for collection

cause Volta is on the cutting board in terms of support

[grizzled ingot]

That's not good.

Doesn't anyone from here know how to hep me?

😢

[lapis condor]

It is so incredibly hard to plug a PSU in wrong wdym

[nova lantern]

BRO it happened again!

WindowsUpdateClient keeps crashing my PC?!

[lapis condor]

Like every connector is keyed differently
It is near impossible to fuck up plugging a PSU in

[limber nacelle]

^^

the biggest mistake you can make it reusing the old cables from your previous psu assuming it's modular

though that being said... someone here did that once and all of their components survived sooooo

just goes to show the importance of having a good psu :^)

[nova lantern]

Is anyone here good with dump files and reading?

[limber nacelle]

@lapis condor rahhhh can someone just sell me a titan rtx for cheap :C

Alex Potvin sold his here but

it wasn't that cheap relative to a 3090 so I passed on it

[lost peak]

And I'm stupid and clumsy enough to screw it up

[limber nacelle]

no you'd have to try to fuck it up

like, force in stuff that obviously is not supposed to go in

again they're keyed differently so it's hard (or basically impossible to accidentally) to plug in eps where pcie is meant to go and vice versa

and the rest is just well, shape recognition

[lost peak]

I put in ram the wrong way once

I'm clumsy

[nova lantern]

[limber nacelle]

no you'd really have to try to mess it up

[lapis condor]

Chief
Did you ever manage to put a square block through the circle hole

Like this isn't a 'if you push hard enough it'll go in' situation

[limber nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-square-hole-square-hole-shapes-piklas-gif-24625312

[neat flame]

real

[lost peak]

Yeah

All I'm saying is I'm stupid and a cluts

[limber nacelle]

ok that's not being clumsy anymore

[rigid fjord]

not the first time i've heard this happen

[pallid temple]

im switching to laptop, cause divorcing parents you know so whats about the same as the 3070 ti gpu

Cause im looking at the f15 4070 or a15 4060 price difference is 300

Is it worth the 300 eur

[limber nacelle]

😭

I dont have an answer but best of luck mate

sending you positive vibes through the screen

[pallid temple]

Thanks hhaha its just hard cause idk if i need the 4070

[lost peak]

Ever accidentally unplug your internal hardrive while your pc is still on?

I'm lucky nothing got fried

[limber nacelle]

no? cause I don't work on my pc while it's on...?

[pallid temple]

Why would u even try to do that xd

[lost peak]

I had it shutoff

But the power was still on

Yk?

[limber nacelle]

ah but I did hear previously that 60 class mobile chips tend to be best value so yeah

[limber nacelle]

no..?

[lost peak]

Like still plugged in tho turned off

[limber nacelle]

like I power off the pc, then turn off the psu

[pallid temple]

Ah perfect cause i see so much laptops with the 4060 but power limited like a 4060 uses 140 and then its limited at 75

And is it worth to swap 16gb ddr5 to 32

[limber nacelle]

yeah probably best to pay attention to the power limits

[limber nacelle]

personally I refuse to use anything below 32 now but it's up to what you do with the pc

[pallid temple]

Yea i saw one for about 970 a asus a15

[limber nacelle]

I just find that really limiting

[pallid temple]

Yea same xd but does it remove the warranty

[limber nacelle]

I'm not sure

Europe has strong consumer protection so

I would check your local laws

[pallid temple]

Bekijk ASUS TUF Gaming A15 FA507NV-LP110W - Gaming Laptop - 15.6 inch - 144Hz op: https://www.bol.com/nl/p/asus-tuf-gaming-a15-fa507nv-lp110w-gaming-laptop-15-6-inch-144hz/9300000169424641?referrer=socialshare_pdp_iphoneapp

I saw this one do u know if its any good or nah

Or im going f15 4070

[limber nacelle]

sorry, I have no idea

[pallid temple]

No problem

[lapis condor]

That's perfectly fine

I've uninstalled CPUs with the system still on
It's fine

I've installed ram with the system on (and uninstalled it for funsies)
I've hot plugged near every component
It is fine

[lapis condor]

Oh true

[nova lantern]

Ok so I have no idea

My PC was crashing, apparently might be down to my GPU

Due to a 'video_scheduler_internal_error' (119) error

'Arg1: 0000000000000002, The driver failed upon the submission of a command.'

So I've updated the driver.... hopefully no more crashing after waking from sleep

[limber nacelle]

need

I just want vram it can be turding even

[nova lantern]

I really hate when PC auto-crashes

[pallid temple]

And does anyone know with the asus tuf a15 u have a 110W version and another one without?

[nova lantern]

Logs become unreadable...

[lapis condor]

22GB 2080 Ti

Learn to BGA just for that

[kindred halo]

It's got the equivalent of an i5-11400H, with an 8GB 4060 at 50% efficiency

[lapis condor]

Ooo i love getting mystery packages where i forgot what i ordered

[kindred halo]

It'll work, but don't trust it on going 144Hz on anything beyond medium-low & medium

[rigid fjord]

i plead the 5th

[lapis condor]

Oh wait it might be my 14600k

[fresh fog]

Hi can someone please help answers my question here https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1337910725703897108 thank you

[limber nacelle]

don't i need a special machine for that

ill just get my cards upgraded in china when I go

[eternal cloak]

Yeah, back then I looked at the board for the first time and thought 'How the hell do people do this'

Then about a year later after getting more familiar with shit and learning more in the hobby I looked at it again (I didn't do anything practical during the time, I just engaged in conversation in TS3 and in forums) and immediately went 'Wait, that's easy' lmao

[limber nacelle]

fill my suitcase with turding lolololol

[limber nacelle]

I legit just watched one video and read the manuals and put together my first pc in just a few hours

[eternal cloak]

I still let someone else plug my cables in though because I had a very nastily fractured right arm at the time

[limber nacelle]

it really ain't hard lol

[limber nacelle]

(and mostly because I wanted to nicely managed the cables)

[eternal cloak]

For my second PC, that is*

[pallid temple]

So its an bad laptop?

[trim flicker]

meow

[pallid temple]

https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1338445352101220384

can u maybe help

[keen stratus]

i keep getting this whenever my pc turns ok

[rigid fjord]

cpu wise, lol no

[rigid fjord]

#1027757333117415424

[keen stratus]

kk

aight done

[rigid fjord]

that asus tuf a15 is fine btw

[pallid temple]

But why does it say 110W

It seems there are 2 versions?

[rigid fjord]

for the gpu?

[pallid temple]

Idk it says in the name u have a NV and a NVR

[rigid fjord]

max wattage of a 4060 is 115w, so being at 110w is fine

both same wattage but as desktop vs laptop, they're basically performing the same within a margin of error

[pallid temple]

Oh aight is it it worth 300 eur to go 4070 and the f15 or just go a15

[rigid fjord]

nope

[pallid temple]

Thx bro imma trust and buy the a15

[pallid temple]

So this good right

[rigid fjord]

mind linking the f15 you was looking at?

[pallid temple]

Yea 1 sec

https://www.megekko.nl/product/0/1105437/ASUS-TUF-Gaming-F15-FX507VI-LP075W-15-6-Core-i7-RTX-4070-Gaming-Laptop?r=scoupz.nl&utm_source=scoupz&utm_medium=cpc&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADNR6ST7CirgyOWTK30oohspRXSIj

https://www.bol.com/nl/p/asus-tuf-gaming-a15-fa507nv-lp110w-gaming-laptop-15-6-inch-144hz/9300000169424641?referrer=socialshare_pdp_iphoneapp

So i should get this a15 right

[rigid fjord]

definitely get the a15 if you have to choose between those 2 only

[kindred halo]

Not necessarily at all, just not great for high preset gaming on modern titles

[pallid temple]

Its the cheapest 4070

[pallid temple]

Yea i play like sea of thieves and stuff never liked those high hogwarts legacy and stuff

[kindred halo]

That's what the top results keep saying, idk

[rigid fjord]

if i had to pay the extra i'd get this instead https://www.bol.com/nl/nl/p/lenovo-legion-slim-5-16ahp9-83dh006jmh-gaming-laptop-16-inch-165-hz/9300000178296251/

[kindred halo]

Oh then you're definitely good

[rigid fjord]

who's results?

[kindred halo]

Just don't forget to keep some cash left for a KB & M lmao

[pallid temple]

Why its 400 more and 4060

[kindred halo]

Google, definitely not asking userbenchmark & reddit

[pallid temple]

I have a whole setup but switching to laptop

[turbid dirge]

If someone could assist me with this please https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1338436302680363028

[kindred halo]

But the more I scrolled down the most results were 11400H

[kindred halo]

Yeah you're good then dw

[pallid temple]

Just parents divorcing so i need the portable thing

[kindred halo]

Ah, sorry to hear about that

[rigid fjord]

the cpu being better, and the gpu's power is boosted also

[pallid temple]

Yea its hard haha but its okay saw it coming

[pallid temple]

Yea idk if i can afford the 400 rn for the bit of performance

Im buying the a15 thanks guys

Should i upgrade the ram btw?

[rigid fjord]

definitely not the same dude

[kindred halo]

16GB of DDR5 is good enough

[rigid fjord]

there's a couple other parts on it like being able to have a second ssd inside it as well

[kindred halo]

What site is this

[rigid fjord]

if it's a single stick yes

[kindred halo]

Dual

2x 8GB

[rigid fjord]

both cpu monkey and technical.city

[pallid temple]

Can i not put a second ssd in the a15 i thought i saw it has 2

[rigid fjord]

bad, no beuano

[kindred halo]

Thank ya

[lapis condor]

No, bad

[pallid temple]

But is this best option cause i have about 1250 eur

[rigid fjord]

just checking if it can fully

[pallid temple]

Aight

[fathom flax]

hey so i enabled xmp on my dads pc (12700k no gpu was using iGPU for a few years just fine) and now it won’t post anymore. the motherboard is a b660m-a wifi d4 and there is 8x4 gigs of ram in it. i have shorted the CLRTC pins to no avail and also taken out ram sticks which dont work. any idea what I can do here

the keyboard lights don’t turn on anymore either

[kindred halo]

Why's it bad?

Isn't dual channel usually better than single channel?

[rigid fjord]

yeah 2x m.2 slots with 2x sodimm slots

[kindred halo]

#1027757333117415424

[rigid fjord]

yes but ddr5 doesn't work directly the same as ddr4

[pallid temple]

So another ssd and i can upgrade ram?

[kindred halo]

Yes

[rigid fjord]

yup you can

[pallid temple]

So this the best option for 1250 eur in netherlands?

[fathom flax]

the case power light is also blinking on and off (it only blinks white) repeatedly

[pallid temple]

With ram its like 1000 total

[fathom flax]

oh and now it just turned off

[kindred halo]

A fully free M.2 slot and for RAM you'll need a 16GB single DIMM for upgrades

[rigid fjord]

with ddr5 you can go single stick of 16gb ram minimum and won't have the kind of issues as you would do in ddr4

[lapis condor]

1x16GB of DDR5 is better than 2x8GB
2x16GB is better than both

[true stirrup]

How much of a difference is there actually between 8-bit+FRC and 10-bit colour depth in a monitor if both have in the specifications the same amount of colours they can display?

[kindred halo]

That explains why I don't see any 8GB DDR5 sticks

[pallid temple]

Anyone have a good link for netherlands 32gb laptop ram for the laptop?

[rigid fjord]

they exist, just really unwise to get/touch

[kindred halo]

Well, atleast it makes upgrades easier

[kindred halo]

Barely exist here, all I see are 16 Gigabyters

Like I've yet to even see a LAPTOP DDR5 stick

[pallid temple]

Would the laptop be almost same as 3070 ti + 5 7600 pc? Or nahhh

[fathom flax]

i’m at a loss here because clearing cmos clearly doesn’t work after shorting it repeatedly

[minor sleet]

What

That’s not gonna be cheap iirc

[rigid fjord]

https://www.amazon.nl/dp/B0BRTJ4Q94/ actually cheap for ddr5 sodimms

[rigid fjord]

nope, not a chance

[pallid temple]

Will it be MUCH worse or no?

[rigid fjord]

both a 7600 and 3070ti have way more performance over the laptop

[pallid temple]

Hmm im thinking of selling the pc or no haha its hard

[rigid fjord]

gpu wise alone

[pallid temple]

Can i build a better pc then a 3070 ti and 5 7600 with 1200!374

1200 eur*

[kindred halo]

If you can, it's probably best to just upgrade your current rig

[kindred halo]

Definitely

[rigid fjord]

cpu wise

[rigid fjord]

quite possibly

[pallid temple]

Can u build one?

Then I’m just selling this and building new for more warranty

[kindred halo]

What marketplace predomininately

[pallid temple]

Megekko, amazon, bol.com, alternate if unmean that

[kindred halo]

Amazon and Newegg are easiest

[pallid temple]

Just use pcpartpicker no

[rigid fjord]

correct

[kindred halo]

I know just asking just incase specific components aren't on Amazon/Those sites in general

[pallid temple]

Ooh yea okay

[kindred halo]

Which is shown in PcPaPi

[fathom flax]

i’m actually so lost as to why this pc will stop posting after enabling xmp - does anyone have any idea here

[pallid temple]

Do u know if ur mobo can handle the xmp / mhz of the ram

[rigid fjord]

can be added as custom parts

[rigid fjord]

corsair ram ?

[fathom flax]

it’s either 3200 or 3600 mhz so it should be able to run

[midnight wind]

check the motherboard qvl to be certain

[fathom flax]

vengeance yes

[rigid fjord]

time to swap out the ram for decent ones

[fathom flax]

the thing is i even shorted the clrtc pins to reset cmos and nothing

[rigid fjord]

this ain't the issue, the issue is the ram itself

[pallid temple]

Okay so what is the price of a laptop thats even as the pc?

And what can i get with 1200 eur for anpc

[rigid fjord]

the lenovo could be close in performance, though it would be still a bit weaker on the cpu side

[pallid temple]

Yea then ill just go pc damnn its hard then

[vivid pendant]

This is beautiful

I need this specific 5090

[pallid temple]

Is it worth selling this pc and building a new one cause i have someone that wants to buy it

[pallid temple]

The end of that gpu is a beauty

[rigid fjord]

that's up to you

[junior valve]

nice but fe tops all

[pallid temple]

Is the performance boost gon be much with 1200 EUR new pc

[vivid pendant]

Nice but fe dumpster fire

Don't want my VRAM to catch my PC on fire thank you

[fathom flax]

i changed the ram for different stick, cleared cmos, the power led button no longer turns on but before it was rapidly flashing white and then it turned off

[vivid pendant]

Definitely

[junior valve]

nvidia should ve used the 4 slot cooler instead of the 2 slot

[vivid pendant]

I agree

[lapis condor]

Did you try 1 stick in each slot of the motherboard, trying it all sequentially?

[vivid pendant]

It had a third fan in the center

[lapis condor]

These are fine Vram temps

[vivid pendant]

Or had*

[vivid pendant]

No

[fathom flax]

will try now

[pallid temple]

Can i dm u so we can see what i get for a new pc

[lapis condor]

I mean
They are
They're within spec

If you want bad Vram temps just look at the 3090/Ti

[rigid fjord]

no dm's but for 1200 eur you can get this https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/qNGH74

[vivid pendant]

In my room that would be another 10-15 higher

My room is easily 10° more then what they were testing in

So for me that's 100+

[boreal vine]

d31 spotted

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[lapis condor]

Funnily enough that's not how that works

[junior valve]

the 4 slots although abit chonky but its way more capable ( 800w tdp cooler if im correct )

[vivid pendant]

My room is big but air circulation doesn't exist

[lapis condor]

Thermodynamics are weird but a 10C rise in ambient won't equate directly to a 10C rise in component temps

[pallid temple]

How much better is this then a 3070 ti its about the same build

[vivid pendant]

Let me put it this way Sy
My laptop brings my room which is master bedroom size from 72 to 86+

After only a few hours.

[lapis condor]

Get a floor fan on god

[boreal vine]

air moisture has something to do with it

[vivid pendant]

I have ceiling fan

[midnight wind]

won't it typically be worse

[dusty dew]

It does affect if your temp tolerances are tight

[lapis condor]

No

[rigid fjord]

a ton better, this is with a cooler used instead of the stock one that comes with the 7600 https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/hNGH74

[vivid pendant]

But this PC? 5090 dude. That chucks way more heat then my 230. watt laptop

[midnight wind]

That poor pcie slot

[vivid pendant]

That would easily be 10-15° more base temp in my room then well into 90-100°F when heavy gaming

It did that in the summer with my laptop lmao

[rigid fjord]

this is saying minimal but not the full performance

[junior valve]

fe dont sag as much as aibs , they actually have 4 pcie slots instead of 2 in some aibs

[dusty dew]

@rigid fjord Pretty decent on this 780m, played some of my familiar games, and it ain't lagging

[lapis condor]

400W more heat in fact

[pallid temple]

Aight thanks

[lapis condor]

It's gonna be real fun for those in small rooms with 5090s soon

[dusty dew]

But my large games not tested yet since it's ssd is only 512

[pallid temple]

Damn is the 7800xt that good?

[junior valve]

no

[fathom flax]

nope no dice

[median warren]

Even my 3070 heated up my room

[dusty dew]

Space heaters, so they are the new 10th gen

[fathom flax]

no post no white power lifht

[lapis condor]

Try reseat the CPU

Inspect CPU/motherboard pins/socket for damage

[boreal vine]

10th gen wasn't even that bad :v

[median warren]

Can confirm it wasn't

[lapis condor]

You mean 13/14th gen?

[median warren]

I used a 3070 and 10700k, most of the heat was from gpu

[median warren]

Eh still not that bad, I got my 14700k under control

[dusty dew]

Well it's a CPU with space heater, 10th gen is basically space heaters with small CPU, same as AMD FX

[lapis condor]

Worse than previous generations in terms of power consumption and heat output

[boreal vine]

11th gen was worse than 10th gen in terms of heat, but 13/14th is the real offender

[median warren]

Heat output ain't so bad though

[junior valve]

just get a big cooler

[boreal vine]

Though, I think it's abit stupid when people post their results here

[fathom flax]

the thing is the pc was running just fine. i booted into bios to enable xmp after realizing it was disabled and now it won’t boot

[dusty dew]

Right now though, FX actually pulled up longer than their Intel counterparts due to being 8 core

[lapis condor]

Staring at the 253W boost clock power draw:

[boreal vine]

since most likely the "overheating CPU" is factory overclocked

[fathom flax]

the power led is dark so according to my manual it isn’t graphics card error, memory error or no boot drive error

[boreal vine]

via asus MCE, or other stupid mobo one click oc bullshit

[minor sleet]

12vhpwr strikes again

[median warren]

I got a thermal grizzly krysheet thermal pad and a 420mm aio on it, it's chilly

[junior valve]

both ends

[vivid pendant]

Third part cable that didn't have the right gauge and cheap connector

[lapis condor]

FX 8350 drew avg. 135W under a full system load according to techpowerup's review

[vivid pendant]

They were using a third party cable It was not the cable included with the power supply or the graphics card

[junior valve]

asus thor loki psu

[boreal vine]

Ekwb cr360 + mx4 says hi

[minor sleet]

Rip

[vivid pendant]

It was a third party cable not the one that came with the power supply

Zoom in on the cable there are bend marks on the GPU side They didn't plug in all the way either

[median warren]

Yeah ik, but still it keeps my 14700k very cool, also ek aios were out of stock at the time

[midnight wind]

my 13700k draws like 300w with no PL at 5.3 ghz on a non-avx load

[junior valve]

they should ve bought a corsair psu

[vivid pendant]

.-. If you're just going to not fully plug it in expect it to melt

[dusty dew]

*im now rooting for igpu to catch up further, since dgpu wattages are getting ridiculous *

[lapis condor]

Meanwhile the 14700k at stock draws 270W

[vivid pendant]

They don't have the 12v 2x6 connector iirc

[junior valve]

yes they do

[vivid pendant]

You have to use adapters for a bunch of PCIe 8 pins

[median warren]

Yeah but realistically are you worried about power consumption when buying high end components?

[vivid pendant]

12vhpwr is not 12v 2x6

The connectors are different

[lapis condor]

You should be because all that heat will get dumped into your room

[dusty dew]

Now we will see if 14700k lasts longer due to the core count

[trim flicker]

doesnt stop me from saying the connector is a piece of shit regardless

[lapis condor]

Huh?

[vivid pendant]

I agree it's crap

[junior valve]

they have a 12vhwp header that splits into 2 8pins pcie

[vivid pendant]

Should use the xt90 connector

[median warren]

My room is always cold, I have not turned on my radiator for a few years now or during the day if I'm home I have an open window, so it's fine

[midnight wind]

what's the point of the 12 pin instead of the regular old 8 pins

[trim flicker]

wires of that gauge should not be having 12v 500-600w going through them

[lapis condor]

Even XT60 would be fine

[vivid pendant]

The new cards don't use 12 volt high power
They use 12v 2x6

[boreal vine]

you've been struck by mobo oc

[vivid pendant]

You're talking about two completely different connectors dude

[dusty dew]

FX was usable for a decade and still fights up despite the weak 8 cores, since it's 8 cores

[midnight wind]

yeah that's why I specified no power limit

[lapis condor]

1 PCIe 8 pin is specced for 150W
1 12v2x6 is is specced for 600W

[dusty dew]

Though I doubt 14th gen will last a decade

[junior valve]

so i cant plug in a 5090 with a rm850x shift connector ?

[midnight wind]

If I put the TDP limit then it doesn't quite hit boost clocks

[dusty dew]

Not because of the core count, but because of the microcode stuff

[lapis condor]

Kek
You see, due to how FX series CPUs are designed, it actually behaves closer to 4 cores with weak hyperthreadring than 8 cores

[midnight wind]

Its not a motherboard over clock, just the silicon being terrible mainly and then the motherboard being configured to not remedy that

[vivid pendant]

I wouldn't use a 12vhpwr connector on the 5090 fe
Use the included adapter or get an ATX 3.1 PCIe 5.1 PSU with the new connector

The connector is different

[dusty dew]

They got sued because of that

[lapis condor]

That PSU doesn't have enough juice for a 5090 lmao
AIB 5090s are pulling over 600W, that leaves 200W for the entire rest of your system
CPU at 100W, RAM at about 10W, storage at about 5-10W depending on how many drives

[vivid pendant]

And it's different specifically so the card will not power on if it's not plugged in all the way cuz the sens pins are moved back

[junior valve]

plus 18 corsair fans

[lapis condor]

Like you'd be running it near the redline and that sucks for efficiency

[vivid pendant]

So they don't make contact if you don't fully plug it in so thus no power

[midnight wind]

4.17 amps per wire doesn't seem to bad to be fair

[boreal vine]

did you have an fx cpu?

[vivid pendant]

The old connector does not have that so you can still power on if it's not plugged in all the way

[lapis condor]

Never did, first full PC for me had a 4790

[boreal vine]

damn

[vivid pendant]

761 watts oc suprim

1000 watt PSU not even enough there

[boreal vine]

that's actually kinda baller

[vivid pendant]

Need 1200

[lapis condor]

4790 and a r9 290 🔥

Only reason I've been an AMD fanboy for so long is because of that stupid 290

[boreal vine]

my first proper pc was an a10 igpu build back in the day, then got another PC in 2019

[lapis condor]

I made it draw 744W once it was amazing

[junior valve]

lemme calculate it
13900k , 4 sticks of corsair vengeance rgb , 2nvme + 1 hdd , 15 ll120 fans + 3 ll140s
how much those adds up to

[boreal vine]

i've never owned an amd gpu until last yera lmao

or 2023

[vivid pendant]

13900k 253 watts

[lapis condor]

I'm jumping ship to a 5070 provided it has the stupid PCB design

If it doesn't, then idk what card I'll get

[boreal vine]

I didn't see any point in going for the 590 when 1070 beats the shit out of it for the longest time

[dusty dew]

On a random note, I am thinking of buying a same model as my first laptop...

[vivid pendant]

About 500 watts probably

[boreal vine]

I did want to get a vega card but that's for hackintosh primarily

[dusty dew]

If I find it cheap enough

[vivid pendant]

Depends on whether or not you're overclocking the chip

[fathom flax]

this motherboard also doesn’t support bios flashback so i can’t update the firmware because the pc isn’t posting wtf do i do

[signal epoch]

Please help me my galaxy a5 6 just died on me overnight giving me this screen signaling that it is fully on

[dusty dew]

It's a Compaq presario cq57-399sd as for why I long for getting it. It got stolen 3 months after being bought new

[lapis condor]

Full clear cmos again, try with only one stick in slot A2 or B2

Did you reseat the CPU already?

[lapis condor]

Ded screen oof

[whole garden]

Get the screen replaced

[midnight wind]

Hows the 13700k and 13900k the same tdp

[eternal cloak]

That's very much a dead screen

[eternal cloak]

That phone is old enough to have a dedicated home button, makes more sense to get a new phone

[kindred halo]

Fair enough

[signal epoch]

Bshhdhshs i loved my little a5 it had so much more to live for auuughhhh☹️☹️☹️

[trim idol]

Good morning folks 🙂

[trim flicker]

morning mom

[eternal cloak]

sup mum

[trim idol]

Hey hey kids

[boreal vine]

morning malorie, guess what i'm using at work today

[kindred halo]

@pallid temple gonna finish it up in like 30 mins to an hour, can I know what parts you already have that don't really need replacing? (Case fans, storage, etc)

And if you want liquid or air cooling

[terse sorrel]

can I js turn off my 3090 fans if it's not being used?

[trim idol]

It's crazy. RN on Best Buy's site, every nvidia card except for 3060 and 4060s are sold out

[terse sorrel]

idling at 33C

[trim idol]

You can set a fan curve that turns them off at low temps

[boreal vine]

gpus here in the UK are sold out too

[lapis condor]

I mean I'd expect a card like that to have fan stop with the default fan curve

[boreal vine]

and getting used cards at the moment is a pain in the ass

as the prices have rised a lil bit

[lapis condor]

Hey you can get a used 3080 for like £400 or less

[trim idol]

I've found that too

[terse sorrel]

the auto fan settings on afterburner is really good. I don't wanna mess with manual fan controls on fan control

[lapis condor]

Manual fan tuning is like 15 seconds of drawing a line then putting the card under load to see if it sounds good

[boreal vine]

they were 300 like 2 months ago

[trim idol]

okay

[terse sorrel]

cpu while doing general tasks

[trim idol]

wait, you alreay have fan control and you don't want to take the half a minute to set up a curve in there?

[lapis condor]

Cool
Does it sound good to you

[terse sorrel]

what matters more is cpu cooling tbh idc about sound

[pallid temple]

Imma just build a new pc pure performance so probably air cooled

[terse sorrel]

yeah but my gpu got 3 fans only shows up 2 on fan control. Control 1 and control 2

[pallid temple]

I have a 1tb ssd

[trim idol]

that's because two are on the same controller

[boreal vine]

my 6800 is going for significantly more than what I paid for it

[terse sorrel]

oh so copy the same chart twice?

[boreal vine]

and I also found out it's the only 2 slot model of that card LMAO

the rest are either 2.5 or more or oem and runs like shit

[trim idol]

Make one chart and apply the curve to both 3090 fans that show up in fan control

[lapis condor]

Why not both
You can have both you know

[terse sorrel]

also I have the case fans set as +6% on all intakes than the aio exhaust (to build positive pressure). And back exhaust is just a contant 50%

[pallid temple]

I already have a ssd, so we can put that away and instead put money somewhere else if its needed?

[terse sorrel]

but they are different rpms and dimensions idk if that matters

too complicated ngl

like 1% on an intake fans =! 1% on aio fan

[trim idol]

it doesn't matter

in fact, you don't want all the fans at the exact same RPM because that creates annoying harmonics

[median warren]

Is there such thing as like a universal ring size, because I don't actually know the size of someone's finger that I'm trying to buy a ring for

[terse sorrel]

can u make me a gpu fan curve lol. And how do you make fan control override afterburner

[trim flicker]

my fans hum so much lol

[lapis condor]

Is everyone's finger the same size

[median warren]

Well nah but you know fingers have different thickness depending at what point you measure it

And which finger

[trim flicker]

the ring finger duh

[fathom flax]

RAM on B2, held screw driver on clrtc for a min, cpu reseated - do you know how to remove this battery? (red wires) @lapis condor

[median warren]

I think, I'll measure my own finger size and I know that they have a smaller finger so I'll just down size it by a couple

[trim idol]

Make it like this
Keep the curve under 30% until about 45-50C and the fans should stay off when its cold.

Fan Control should automatically override afterburner... but also, just close afterburner

[hybrid hamlet]

Running Minecraft on a Raspberry Pi lols

[solar moat]

but can you do 512 chunk render distance with shaders

[hybrid hamlet]

I'll prob get 1 fps per sometimes

[junior valve]

it usually sits around 100-140w gaming wise

[trim flicker]

one frame per second per sometimes

[vivid pendant]

Not in monster hunter wilds it won't

[hybrid hamlet]

Frame per if you ask nicely

[junior valve]

that’s roblox load

[vivid pendant]

Incorrect

Wilds is similar to cyberpunk 2077 and black myth wukong

A 9800x3d bottlenecks a 5090 in wilds

[junior valve]

i mean my wattage load

[lapis condor]

Gotta unplug that cable on the motherboard side

[vivid pendant]

Well my girls 14900 draws 253 in wilds so idk

[trim idol]

This seems unlikely

do you have a rivaturner overlay to show this?

[hybrid hamlet]

Y'all how do I manage my fan on a raspberry pi 3 model b rev 1.2

[trim idol]

Are you running 1080p low settings?

[vivid pendant]

Watch people litteraly show it on screen in the benches

[eternal cloak]

No he's right
The issue with his sentence is that literally everything necks a 5090

[fathom flax]

besides that i reseated it and shorted the pins to no avail, still no post

[eternal cloak]

That was the case for the 4090 too

[vivid pendant]

It does it in 4k native

Monster hunter wilds is extremely CPU intensive

My laptop btw

Most it can manage lowest possible settings

[trim idol]

Interesting

[vivid pendant]

Wilds is also just eugh

[woeful leaf]

ggs

[eternal cloak]

Ye, GN did tests back then when the 4090 even came out and he's used a 13900K back then

[vivid pendant]

It's intensive

[eternal cloak]

Literally any CPU on the market right now necks even a 4090

[vivid pendant]

My girls PC

Only 185 on 1080p is sad

[eternal cloak]

Who cares, it's not a competitive game

[vivid pendant]

Monster hunter wilds will shoot a 9800x3d to 100% usage

[trim flicker]

me when unoptimised game

[vivid pendant]

In 4k /9)

[junior valve]

amd activities

[trim idol]

This

[boreal vine]

6800xt?

[woeful leaf]

yup

[fickle ivy]

im tempted to buy a vertical mount for my gpu when it gets here, what shold i look out for?

[boreal vine]

very nice

[eternal cloak]

That doesn't change anything about what I said lol

[trim idol]

All I got for this is shrug

[vivid pendant]

That's true

[trim idol]

also... who buys a 4080 Super and runs single player games at 1080p

[trim flicker]

you can play any game at 60 frames perfectly fine, only if ur playing high tier in competitive games that you see an improvement in higher framerates

[junior valve]

doesnt that cpu comes with a stock cooler?

[eternal cloak]

Word.
It's a monster hunter kind of an RPG game, who needs more than 90 FPS in this shit

[boreal vine]

@trim idol did you ever get rid of that 5700xt?

[vivid pendant]

Idk

[boreal vine]

I have a feeling I figured out why your results were so different from mine

[woeful leaf]

i got it for 1450pln (around 360usd) and these usually go for 1800pln+ in here

[trim idol]

oh yeah, sold it in a system long ago

[boreal vine]

good deal

[trim idol]

Oh?

[boreal vine]

windows 11 extremely gimped my performance, weren't you using windows 11?

[vivid pendant]

Actually you would be very surprised if you're not running earplugs decorations (gems) on your build sub 90fps and you can miss the iframe to block the monsters roar

[trim idol]

I was using Win 11, yes

[boreal vine]

my fps went from 250+ on the same settings to 180

(truly fuck windows 11)

[vivid pendant]

In later higher end gameplay you sort of need just about any frame you can get to be able to iframe every attack to dodge or block it

[eternal cloak]

That sounds like a skill issue

[median warren]

Just not literally

[vivid pendant]

I have over 4000 hours in world

[trim idol]

what do these words even mean

[eternal cloak]

iframe = invincibility frame

[vivid pendant]

The time to actually block will not exist with lower FPS

[trim idol]

ahhh

[vivid pendant]

Like the game actually just doesn't put it there lol

[junior valve]

my 13900 comes with a stock cooler

[median warren]

It does?

[boreal vine]

lowkey goes ahrd I can't lie

[eternal cloak]

Usually refers to something like a dodge or parry mechanic that gives you a couple frames where you can't be hit by certain things

[trim idol]

my 12900k didn't come with a stock cooler

[trim flicker]

just block smh

[junior valve]

yes

[vivid pendant]

Some weapons are not capable of doing so

[junior valve]

skill issue

[trim flicker]

use a different weapon

[vivid pendant]

So you need to iframe roll

[boreal vine]

I got a 12900kf, that didn't come with a cooler either 🤷‍♀️

[median warren]

Why

[junior valve]

anyway its ass , dont bother

[trim idol]

I don't think that any xx900s came with stock coolers, because the boxes don't have room for them

[vivid pendant]

I use Great sword, charge blade, switch ax, hammer, both blowguns and bow

[eternal cloak]

Regardless, it's why I said 90 FPS and not 60

World of Warcraft knows how pointless shit is above 60 FPS so they quite literally lock your game to 60 FPS kek

[trim idol]

unless the F's did

[vivid pendant]

But I main great sword

[vivid pendant]

xD

[junior valve]

for the giggles and shits

[boreal vine]

I don't think intel includes cooler on k series chips tbf

[eternal cloak]

None of the Ks did, the i9 non-Ks did, had a fancy RGB shitter

[boreal vine]

They kinda expect you to have your own cooler

[vivid pendant]

Monster hunter my favorite game

[trim idol]

yeah, this is the K box

[junior valve]

its worse the the lga 115x stock cooler( i tested both of them )

[trim idol]

I guess the F's came in these boxes with fan

[boreal vine]

mine just came in one of these

[eternal cloak]

Le 1X900 stock coler

[boreal vine]

yeah the non K gets a cooler

[trim idol]

kinda cool looking tbf

[trim flicker]

how did they make it look worse

[junior valve]

big ass lga 115x stock cooler

[trim idol]

yeah, but with those tight fins and no shroud, it'll just blow air out the sides and not down...

[eternal cloak]

I like it too, but the only actual difference between the normal shitter and this shitter is the RGB

[trim idol]

plus it has that shroud

[junior valve]

its more effective than the newer one

[eternal cloak]

Yeah, the lower end SKUs have that too

[boreal vine]

I remember those, they were cool ngl

[trim idol]

I'd need to see proof of that

[junior valve]

tested it with my 13900k

[boreal vine]

did gigabyte also have the lga115x holes like asus does?

[junior valve]

140w load

[eternal cloak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxeAjDl2iJY
RandomGaminginHD based

[junior valve]

i modded lga 1700 support for it

[trim idol]

I guess that new one is a lot shorter than it looks like in the pics

[junior valve]

its abit smaller than the 115x

[trim idol]

oh! it is taller... the first one in the video is the one that comes with the i3/i5s

[eternal cloak]

It'll do it's job and that's about the point of them I suppose

[eternal cloak]

Correct

[junior valve]

and i7s

[eternal cloak]

Ye, the big one only comes with i9s

[hybrid hamlet]

Can I somehow set the fan speed of my Raspberry Pi 3?

[junior valve]

they are both rated for 65w anyways

[simple parrot]

is upgrading from a 3060 ti to a 4070 wooorth it?

[trim idol]

whack that they'd include a 65W cooler with CPUs that consume far more than that

[eternal cloak]

You should go to a 4070 SUPER realistically, but yes

[junior valve]

the big lga115x is actually wairth prism level of performance

[simple parrot]

is 4070 super better?

[rigid fjord]

Yes it is

[eternal cloak]

Going from a 3060 Ti to a 4070 SUPER would be like going from a 3060 Ti to a far more efficient 3090 Ti

[junior valve]

thats the double the performance

[rigid fjord]

What size is that ssd you have?

[simple parrot]

that sounds NEAT, isnt the rx 7800 xt simular performance to a 4070 too?

[junior valve]

3090ti is 4070ti level

[eternal cloak]

Yeah

[trim idol]

Nice of him to make this video, but without showing curves and normalizing RPM, it's not super useful for analysis

[boreal vine]

oh tea, because the asus board I use for my 12900k, does support lga 115x mounting (z690 ROG strix, and Prime - p)

[eternal cloak]

(No it isn't)

[simple parrot]

that could be cool but idk if the amd card wouldnt couse any problems with my existing setup

[eternal cloak]

And the 4070 Ti is a tad better than that, obviously

[trim idol]

it won't

[simple parrot]

also i got an intel i5-10400f , would the bottle neck be THAT bad at 1080p?

or should i just upgrade to a 1440 p monitor

[eternal cloak]

Oh nyo, conflicting performance charts, what am I ever gonna do! It's almost like it's never going to be consistent

[trim idol]

It's almost like game settings matter (first chart at 1080p low, second at 4k ultra)

[eternal cloak]

And I'm pretty sure that TPU chart above a certain threshold is using 4K to measure the performance, by which then the chart makes sense

[junior valve]

yea about that much

[rigid fjord]

Amazon/ebay and you can get a set of finger mesuring rings so you know the size you want from that, alternatively if you have a female server then knowing the clothing size of the person's jeans/leggings/shorts/trousers they may know the correct size by instinct/experience

[junior valve]

thats where those gpus are designed for

[eternal cloak]

What?

70 tier is 1440p mate

[trim idol]

Since most people with 4070Ti/7800XT play on 1440p, this is probably the chart that matters most.

---

[junior valve]

3090 ti is a 4k gpu

[steel umbra]

officially ye

[trim idol]

not on modern AAA games its not

[trim flicker]

4k is still very niche for gaming

[eternal cloak]

The 4070/SUPER/Ti/Ti SUPER isn't, hence why you use 1440p because both cards commonly use this resolution

[junior valve]

even at 1440p , its still way faster than a 4070 s

[trim idol]

By "way" you mean like 3-5%?

[eternal cloak]

Nope, it's literally within 3 FPS

[junior valve]

thats alot

[eternal cloak]

The third one is 1440p

[pallid temple]

2tb pcie 4

[trim idol]

What Kaz said.

[pallid temple]

Im currently using it as second ssd but i can use it for new one

[trim idol]

Though that yummy 24GB VRAM is definitely nice on the 3090Ti for big textures

but then the 3090Ti costs more used than a 4070 Ti Super does... which is whack

[rigid fjord]

So you could get a 500gb one to use as a boot drive and keep the 2tb as a separate games drive

[eternal cloak]

What crack are you on, 3 to 5% is basically not noticeable even if both cards only had 30 FPS at 4K

[pallid temple]

Why not just boot drive on the same one

[junior valve]

the 3090 ti would probably be abit more stable with 24gb of vram

[rigid fjord]

If windows wants to fuck up at any point you're not re-installing everything

[fathom flax]

is there any reason why pc keeps on doing this

[eternal cloak]

Unless you're gonna tell me you notice 0.9 FPS

[fathom flax]

it turns on for a few seconds then turns off before turning on again repeatedly

[rigid fjord]

#1027757333117415424

[steel umbra]

Failed to post it seems like

[median warren]

Oh damn

I need to get into a server like that tbh cause I know the clothing size

[steel umbra]

Motherboard or ram is usually the culprit

[eternal cloak]

Hey, guess what, it doesn't lmao
It behaves about like any other card would

[sage raven]

what do we think of the acer nitro VG271UM3bmiipx quad hd 27” ips? UK based, looking to play single player and multiplayer games at 1440p, £200 budget looking for best bang for my buck

[junior valve]

flip the front fans

[eternal cloak]

Like, idk why nobody has the 3090/Ti on their charts but the 4070S behaves like any other card and is about as stable lol

[fathom flax]

it stopped working after I enabled XMP. I’m not sure if I bricked the motherboard. I can’t even enter the BIOS. Clearing CMOS by shorting CLRTC pins does nothing

I’m trying different sticks of RAM and nothing

[trim idol]

probably because the 3090Ti has always been a silly card.

weeee tiny bit more performance than a 3090 for huge $ more

[eternal cloak]

A $2000 MSRP is kinda rough, ye

[pallid temple]

I dont have important things just some games xd so that wont matter really

[steel umbra]

Make sure you're shorting them right

[pallid temple]

But do we need money to put somewhere else

[junior valve]

thats normal now

[eternal cloak]

A single card per generation that you're not even gonna buy has a $2,000 MSRP, bohoo

[true stirrup]

Take out the CMOS battery then

[eternal cloak]

The reason it was rough back then was because, shocker, COVID HAPPENED, so that thing wasn't $2,000, the 3090 Ti was $4,000

[steel umbra]

Yeah try battery

[junior valve]

how much is the 5090 going for currently again

[steel umbra]

then try all sticks you have in B2

[fathom flax]

the battery is stuck here and i can’t get it out (red wire, pls ignore dust)

[eternal cloak]

Between 4 and $6,000
Idk why you're acting surprised, it's a new generation

Difference is the 3090 Ti was $4,000 all the way until the end of covid, the 5090 is gonna come down eventually lol

[fathom flax]

my fingers don’t fit in the BATT_CON area so i can unplug it

[boreal vine]

I know someone that exclusively plays bf2042

on 4k with 4090

[trim flicker]

lol

[boreal vine]

literally the only game they play

[trim flicker]

waste of money fr

[boreal vine]

they bought a 7800x3d with it as well

only for them to find out that it performs the same as their 12900k

[trim flicker]

loll

[wet ember]

i let my windows xp virtual machine install overnight but it's still stuck on this page

it's been running for 8+ hours now

[trim flicker]

lol

[livid mason]

What if you could overclock and HDD?

7200 rpm could go to 7500-7700 rpm

I'm a genius 🤯

[solar moat]

https://tenor.com/pPuoGy1htU6.gif

[livid mason]

Just a curious thought :)

[strong orbit]

That idea is definitely interesting

[trim flicker]

you can, its just not worth it

[solar moat]

all i going to say idk if it can be dose but funny thing if you overclock with blck its easy to kill drives

[gloomy sleet]

you would lose all your data and destroy it

[livid mason]

Damn :/

So thoughts remain only that

[gloomy sleet]

their made to run at 7200rpm for a reason

[tidal geyser]

No way they are

Who could have guessed that

Well james can't

[livid mason]

Hey just a thought okay

Could have at least let me imagine 😔

[tidal geyser]

Nah

But there are 10k rpm sas drives

[livid mason]

True

[rare pier]

Hey so I have a choice between the 6950xt vs 7800xt for the same price. Which should I get, I heard the 7000 series has more features that the 6000 so which is more worth?
Note: mostly play comp fps games but enjoy AAA games from time to time

[tidal geyser]

Do you pay for power

[rare pier]

Nope

[dense oak]

Can I limit the speed of my ssd?

[tidal geyser]

What why

[rare pier]

So 6950xt I assume

[dense oak]

I was copying over 10gb of data and it hit 66C at the end

[tidal geyser]

The 6950 xt uses a lot more power and has horrible spikes but it is a tiny tiny bit better

[livid mason]

66C isn't bad

[dense oak]

It is very fast

[tidal geyser]

Dam nice temps

[livid mason]

Is it?

[dense oak]

it is bad, 65 is dangerous

[livid mason]

Oh

[tidal geyser]

What

[livid mason]

Huh???

[tidal geyser]

Most ssds do not slow down until they hit 70-80c

[dense oak]

A new SSD may have a safe operating range of 32-140°F (0-60°C)

70C is the limit for most ssds

[tidal geyser]

Os yjis for your ssd or something ramdom

[rare pier]

Ahhhh shit, I have a 750W psu in an itx build, this does not bode well

[tidal geyser]

7800 xt it is

[dense oak]

random

[tidal geyser]

What ssd is it

[rare pier]

Wait when you mean by spike, like what could the voltage spike to

[dense oak]

my ssd is

SSD: Micron MTFDKBA512TFH-1BC1AABHA (512GB, 475GB)

[tidal geyser]

Kinda

[livid fern]

6900xt has worse transient spikes

:)))))

What unit is it. Psu

[dense oak]

the ssd does have like a thick thermal block between it and the chaise of the laptop

[rare pier]

EVGA SFX 750

[rare pier]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q9yQcx

[tidal geyser]

Operating Temp 0C to +70C

It's made to do 70c

[livid fern]

U have it already yes

psu

It failed some 3.3V transient tests

[rare pier]

Yup

[dense oak]

not bad I still don't like getting close to that :D

[rare pier]

So it genuinely can crash my pc and cause damage to my psu and trip my breaker

[dense oak]

This is very fast I don't mind slowing it down a bit

[tidal geyser]

fyi you cant

[tidal geyser]

ffs ITS MADE TO DO IT

[dense oak]

It is not recommended to hit the 70 :)

[tidal geyser]

from micron for that ssd?

[dense oak]

pretty much for all ssds

[tidal geyser]

and where are you getting this from

[dense oak]

lower temps = good

um

[strong orbit]

Why would an ssd or whatever hit 70

[tidal geyser]

since you use it

[strong orbit]

They wouldn’t get close to 70 tho right?

[tidal geyser]

pcie 5.0 ones or horrible 4.0 can or even if you put a ssd under the gpu while its on full blast can cause a ssd to get close to that

but i see most m.2 ssds at 50-60c

[strong orbit]

Ahh that makes more sense yea

[tidal geyser]

anyways here it is from micron

[dense oak]

Pretty much everywhere I check it says it "causes damage to its data retention and endurance"

[shell arrow]

Feliz navidad

[tidal geyser]

from micron, they say its fine but even 65c they themselves do not worry but if you do then get some better cooling for it

[dense oak]

https://www.datarecovery.net/articles/ssd-overheating-data-loss.aspx#:~:text=Overheating can make your SSD,videos%2C and other documents back.

https://www.techtarget.com/searchstorage/post/Understand-SSD-overheating-and-what-to-do-about-it

[shell arrow]

No ur ssd will burn and ur pc will catch on fire without a cooler

[tidal geyser]

thats not micron

micron make their own NAND and controller

[dense oak]

it's a data recovery :D a place where you go when micron recommends u bad studd :)

[tidal geyser]

anyways its fine but if its so crucial the data you store then point a fan at it

[dense oak]

Like every data recovery website that has info on SSDs says running at high tems = bad

[tidal geyser]

its fine

[dense oak]

High temperatures can degrade NAND flash memory cells, potentially leading to data loss or corruption. Thermal stress can also cause the SSD’s controller to malfunction, resulting in data access issues.``

[tidal geyser]

also its running 65c+ 24/7 where it is bad

[dense oak]

The part that's bad is fast temp changes so when it hits 70 under copying and then it stops copying and drops to 55

[weary harbor]

i am thinking about getting the intel b580

[weary harbor]

what do you think do you think this is the best option for the price

[tidal geyser]

cheapest

[weary harbor]

yeah so what

like which one thanks

[tidal geyser]

the cheapest you can find?

[weary harbor]

like around 300 usd

[dense oak]

50C :) not 65/70

[tidal geyser]

its from 2015

we went from cpus that had a temp max of like 60c to now 95c

[dense oak]

That's like sata

[plush wren]

Pasta

[tidal geyser]

technology gets better

[dense oak]

technology gets different :)

[tidal geyser]

you can listen to me or do your own thing but you cant make the slot or ssd slower

[kindred halo]

Ight

[ripe spire]

This discount is almost making me want a gaming laptop again

[tidal geyser]

its 1100 for a laptop?

i think you can get the same or better in a smaller laptop for around the same price for the past few months

[ripe spire]

44% off

[tidal geyser]

means jack shit

[ripe spire]

2k down to 1k is a crazy drop

[tidal geyser]

not if it was very overpriced

[ripe spire]

Good specs tho

But then, every gaming laptop is overpriced 😂

(In my opinion at least)

[tidal geyser]

eh not really, its meant to be a LAPtop

[ripe spire]

Yeah, who uses laptops on their lap

That just suffocates the fans

[tidal geyser]

a lot of people

since its LAPtop

[ripe spire]

Really

Why aren’t phones called mobile hand devices then

[edgy valve]

is the phantom spirit 120 se good? or should i wait for the pearless assassin 120 se to come back in stock

[tidal geyser]

its the same cooler but different fans

[keen stratus]

Can u change ur cpu with another same gen cpu like a i5 4 gen with i7 4 gen?

[tidal geyser]

not worth it

[edgy valve]

is it good?

[tidal geyser]

4th gen will be fucked in 7 months anyways or anything under 8th gen or ryzen 2000

[keen stratus]

Just asking that if it's possible like i5 4 gen to i7 or i9 4 gen

[tidal geyser]

does your cpu use more then 400w?

[keen stratus]

Yeah its cooked

[tidal geyser]

there is no 4th gen i9

[edgy valve]

i dont think so, im getting the r7 9700x, and i have a rtx 3060 so i dont believe it does

my psu is 650 watts

[tidal geyser]

why such a powerful cpu but a ass gpu

[edgy valve]

im upgrading

[tidal geyser]

what are the specs of the computer you have now

[keen stratus]

Ryzen 5 2600 supports win 11?

[tidal geyser]

yes

[edgy valve]

i5 11400 and the 3060

[keen stratus]

Wait what

[tidal geyser]

just update the bios

[ripe spire]

Notebook is an ass name

[tidal geyser]

ok?

[tidal geyser]

first generation to have i9s were 7th

[keen stratus]

Ryzen 5 2600 performs ok in 2025 or uh not good at all

[tidal geyser]

but first consumer was 9th

[keen stratus]

Ohh

[tidal geyser]

its fine

[edgy valve]

my cpu is a i5 11400 currently

[keen stratus]

Its AM4 right

[tidal geyser]

https://youtu.be/ieNZt8kBIrE

[tidal geyser]

yes

[keen stratus]

Honestly I do not know a thing about Vega gpus

[quick stag]

hi

[tidal geyser]

i would do b650 eagle ax and r5 7500f from ali or 7600

[ripe spire]

Rauko is here to bully me for my gaming laptop comment

[tidal geyser]

https://youtu.be/z1xdKJGwbLo

[edgy valve]

instead of the 9700x? cause im going to get a 4070 super in a couple months

(when i have the money)

[tidal geyser]

you really do not need a 9700X

[keen stratus]

I'm tryna pair with a amd GPU and not a nvidia

[tidal geyser]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieNZt8kBIrE

[ripe spire]

Nobody needs high specs, we just want them

[edgy valve]

real

[rigid fjord]

it's a luck of the draw when it comes to that tbh, there is always the string trick

[tidal geyser]

well gpu would do a lot more then cpu

so cheaper cpu better gpu

[ripe spire]

What if they happen to do a lot of cpu heavy stuff

[tidal geyser]

like what

[edgy valve]

fortnite

[tidal geyser]

its not

[median warren]

I'm gonna buy 6 and hope it's okay

[ripe spire]

Minecraft without shaders

[median warren]

Like size 6 i mean

[tidal geyser]

1k fps already

[ripe spire]

Cinebench multi core test 😂😂

[keen stratus]

Does the 2600 use a ATX mobo

[ripe spire]

Yeah I do get that even with like 50 mods

[tidal geyser]

maybe

[edgy valve]

i mean i know i dont need the 9700x but i just want it 😭

[rigid fjord]

afaik they have them sized in letters

[tidal geyser]

fyi minecraft is mostly single core

[tidal geyser]

grab a r5 7600 then a better gpu and monitor

[median warren]

I'm gonna see

[edgy valve]

what about the 7700x?

[ripe spire]

What are my other 7 cores doing

[tidal geyser]

r5 7600

[edgy valve]

ok

[tidal geyser]

relaxing

wasting power

[edgy valve]

what cooler should i get?

[tidal geyser]

a cold breeze

i would just use the cooler that comes with it

[junior valve]

beamng on a i3 6100 + gtx 780ti

[tidal geyser]

and here again we see how little cpu matters

he has a massive 2 cores

[junior valve]

1440 monitor btw

[ripe spire]

Love that

[ripe spire]

He can render one ai car

[kindred halo]

Someone wants a PC for 1200 USD, should I go a little cheaper with a 7600X or pay more for a 7700X

Or go even higher with an X3D

[ripe spire]

Yeah mate go for a 7th gen i3

U can spend big bucks on a graphics card then

/j if u didn’t kinda guess that

[kindred halo]

Nah mate /srs

Go for an i3 7100K and pair with a 24GB 5080

[ripe spire]

Nah, 32gb 5090

[tidal geyser]

there is no K for that cpu

[ripe spire]

Don’t even need the K, just go 7100

[tidal geyser]

there is no 7100k

[kindred halo]

Oh

[ripe spire]

He was playing into the joke to be fair 🤷‍♂️

[tidal geyser]

there is the 8th gen i3 k

[kindred halo]

Well whatever the K equivalent for it would be

[ripe spire]

Can I overclock my Apple Watch

[kindred halo]

Yeah 8100K

[ripe spire]

Apple Watch Series K

[kindred halo]

Also what abt this btw

[ripe spire]

What Roman numeral is K

[tidal geyser]

i had a i3 8350k

[kindred halo]

1000

WAIT THAT EXPLAINS WHY 1K = 1000

Holy shit this is mind boggling

[junior valve]

no

tried spawning 12

[ripe spire]

No shit it crashed

[broken oar]

yoo can som1 help ke in my tech support channel its lowkey urgent thx sm

[ripe spire]

Then it’s not lowkey is it then

[junior valve]

it says my system dont have enough memory

[tidal geyser]

how much do you have?

[junior valve]

8gb 2133mhz

[tidal geyser]

i feel like i found the issue

[junior valve]

i think so

ima try a lighter map to run , west coast usa is the most intensive

[ripe spire]

Who tf chose such an awful number for this

2133 😭

[livid mason]

Note to self, Celeron n5095 can run deepseek but not llama3

[tidal geyser]

note?

xd

[junior valve]

i dug it up from a dell otiplex , everything thing in this pc is dug up from something else ( except for the psu i bought new )

[ripe spire]

I gotta see this pcpartpicker link for the build 😂😂

[junior valve]

lemme make it

[ripe spire]

I love updating my bios

Not at all relevant today, did it a few days ago

Just feels very, established?

[tidal geyser]

i did one yesterday

[ripe spire]

What mobo do u have

Misclick

[tidal geyser]

b360-f

might wanna take a read of my bio

[ripe spire]

ASUS?

[ripe spire]

What about it