tech-chat-1

[random tinsel]

how?

[random gyro]

id rather get 85 and the game look better than use dlss on a $1000 card that will get more than 85fps natively

[velvet minnow]

ebay addiction

[random tinsel]

can you sell one of them to me

[velvet minnow]

nuh uh

[random tinsel]

okay, i understand

[velvet minnow]

i also have a nes and snes but not in this picture

theyre at my parents house

[random tinsel]

i have one model each of the nintendoes except nes and virtual boi

i temporarily owned a wii u in 2020

[frank spindle]

Where is this $1000 figure coming from lol, i agree the 5080 is kind of an L upgrade

[velvet minnow]

i am missing the N64

I also have a DMG 001 gameboy

[frank spindle]

I guess its like would you rather have a 7900xtx or a 5070ti cuz theyre like the same price at MSRP

[sharp ivy]

I want a portable console

[velvet minnow]

whatever i find in the dumpster behind best buy

[frank spindle]

Facts

[random tinsel]

i have two gbc, a gba sp, nds lite, new 3ds xl, psp 2000, v1 switch, analogue pocket, and some retro chinese handhelds

[sharp ivy]

There's this nice quad core with 1ghz

[velvet minnow]

never owned a ds as a kid

[sharp ivy]

And it's a good price

[frank spindle]

Honestly at this point i cant be too picky with a new GPU

[velvet minnow]

ive aquired all of these since i turned 16, so for some amount of time

no i lied

[frank spindle]

I was a Wii and DS kid

[random tinsel]

handhelds are fun to collect and use

[velvet minnow]

13

[frank spindle]

Good times

[velvet minnow]

i started collecting consoles when i was 13

[random tinsel]

i have a retroid pocket mini, an analogue pocket, and a powkiddy v90

the v90 is the ugly stepchild among them

[velvet minnow]

i dont know anything about those

are they like emulation devices or do they play original carts

[random tinsel]

its good for home console gaming on the go

emumalation, but the analogue plays carts

[velvet minnow]

cool

[random tinsel]

the retro handhelds are meant for home console games tbh

[velvet minnow]

I like having the originals personally

[random tinsel]

same

i like flashcarts

more convenient

and i lost a lot of physical carts in a fire 12 years ago

[velvet minnow]

ouch

that sucks

[random gyro]

750 retail + low stock high demand

[random tinsel]

and pc discs

[velvet minnow]

I am thankful to live in a place where fires are relatively rare

[random tinsel]

electrical

[velvet minnow]

or was it just like a house fire and i am stupid

ok yeah

option b

[random tinsel]

house, yes.

[velvet minnow]

still sucks

most of the wiis i have are at least somewhat modified

only one doesn't have any changes

[frank spindle]

So true

Isnt that every med-high end card though

[velvet minnow]

yeah just steal it

[random gyro]

i had a 2080 and i just upgraded to a 3060 Ti is that good?

[random gyro]

no

only brand new ones, the hype dies down eventually

[crimson moat]

hi

[random gyro]

hi

[left dove]

ih

[hushed tapir]

After I upgrade my 3700x to something newer how well would it work for a storage server for movies and Linux ISOs with a 2.5Gbit nic

[left dove]

overkill lmao

[hushed tapir]

And would I need a gpu for plex to work on it?

[left dove]

even a 1050 can help with transcoding

its generally a good practice

[raw plover]

how do i install opus codec on win 11

[hushed tapir]

Would the 1050 be good enough for UHD Blu-ray rips

[left dove]

its usually combined with whatever software is trying to use it

[left dove]

are you upscaling or just downscaling

[raw plover]

its not on win media player, lemme try vlc rq

[left dove]

well thats why lmao

[hushed tapir]

I’m not sure. Never used plex but I plan on using 4k Blu-ray movies

[left dove]

ok so more than likely 1:1 or downscaled, a 1050 should be plenty

just ask @thorny saddle

[raw plover]

vlc dont work either

[gleaming rose]

are we allowed to help people with ripping?

[gleaming rose]

mpv

[gleaming rose]

also yes it does

vlc works with everything

[left dove]

https://www.reddit.com/r/VLC/comments/1dexl6y/some_opus_audio_tracks_to_videos_not_playing_in/

[tardy walrus]

Anyone have a video or something on new amd cpu nomenclature? The articles on Google are outdated

[left dove]

what article

[raw plover]

an older version of vlc fixed the issue thanks yall

now i can watch snowpiercer

[tardy walrus]

Articles* but yeah

[hushed tapir]

I guess I could throw my 3080 in it. Not sure if it would be enough tho 😂

[left dove]

why not just.. sell the rig and buy an actual nas

[hushed tapir]

Nah I’m still using my 3080 to game on. I’ll get a gt 1030 for it before I’d stick a 3080 in it lol

[thorny saddle]

The only prob with 1050 is it doesn't support the latest codecs

[left dove]

oh i didn't expect you to be awake still

[thorny saddle]

So I went down this path

[hushed tapir]

Does arc work good for it?

[thorny saddle]

Yes but not in this case

My server is not THAT old, but doesn't support rebar

so the B580 is severely held up

[hushed tapir]

But would be perfect for the 3700x

[left dove]

I really hate that 20 series didn't get rebar

[thorny saddle]

for any rig with PCIe 4.0 and rebar

[raw plover]

like construction rebar?

[thorny saddle]

@left dove I am thinking of doing something stupid

Microcenter has 265k for $299 and $70 off any z890 mobo

[left dove]

ok but when are you gonna buy me that minisforum itx board

[raw plover]

ohhhh

[left dove]

I hope you're aware that I am fully joking

[thorny saddle]

lol i know

[left dove]

Just gotta make sure

[raw plover]

i cant wait till i can build my own pc

[thorny saddle]

me either

[left dove]

5nail have you seen "dev home"

an app recently introduced in w11

[thorny saddle]

dont think so

[raw plover]

i wanna go for a fractal north with 0 rgb inside

[left dove]

it isn't even 6 months old and they're already killing it

[raw plover]

yeah like that, personally i feel like rgb is like a tattoo, its expensive, you might regret it in the future even though you can cover it up

[thorny saddle]

I have with and without

[sharp ivy]

The most lighting I have in my gaming pc is some transparent fans with 4 blue leds in them

[left dove]

classic 2010 aesthetic

[trim oasis]

Are there any disadvantages to upgrading to windows 11 unofficially? I saw a forum from Microsoft saying you will no longer receive updates: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-on-devices-that-don-t-meet-minimum-system-requirements-0b2dc4a2-5933-4ad4-9c09-ef0a331518f1

[limpid dune]

hmm

[formal sonnet]

Yes, if you bypass requirements to upgrade / install Windows 11, your install will eventually get "stuck" on whatever major build version you were able to upgrade to / install.

I found this out the hard way when I was wondering why the family's Dell Optiplex 7400 All In One computer wouldn't update from Win11 23H2 to 24H2 despite being a 12th gen Intel system with TPM2.0 capabilities.

Turns out my dumb ass accidentally disabled TPM2.0 in the BIOS after the initial installation (because I was testing something that didn't work with Secure Boot / TPM2.0), which prevented future major Windows build version updates from installing.

I turned Secure Boot / TPM2.0 back on via the BIOS and bam! It upgraded to Win11 24H2 no problem.

[runic dome]

how do i change usb voltage on pc

[fickle schooner]

quick question for everyone, I'm looking at getting a USB PCIe card for a couple more type C slots, are there any known companies that make these or should i just grab some £20 card off amazon?
I'm not too worried about fast data transfers as it'll mostly just have my Tab S6 Lite hooked up to use as a 3rd monitor, I only have a 1x slot available

[drowsy flame]

Well my new pc is having a bunch of stupid problems. It started with a couple minor crashes, when I tried to launch marvel rivals it gave me a “missing dll file” error, tried reinstalling windows and now it’s all blue screens every few minutes. Any suggestions on how to fix or is it time to take it to a professional?

[dusty dew]

well I do like to call it like that

[random hinge]

should i use a smaller stand-off for my m.2?

i just got a whole pack of standoffs in the mail because i was missing one to begin with. not sure if i should use the taller or shorter option

[dusty dew]

Use the easy mount plastic clips, better

[random hinge]

the what? i’m new to this😅

[high elm]

those are only on newer and more premium boards

[high elm]

oyeah those work

[dusty dew]

You can buy those separately

[high elm]

thought you were talking about those that come with asus boards

[dusty dew]

Nope, since they are too stingy to make it standard

[high elm]

honestly right if it dosent come off its fine

[random hinge]

i’ve got a whole pack of different heights. just wasn’t sure if it was worth my time to get a smaller one

[dusty dew]

I think it's the small one for the m2

For reference it should have smaller screws than the Mobo

And a recess on top

[bitter rampart]

:)

[bitter rampart]

It's missing 1 capacitor tho

[arctic furnace]

just upgraded my fans :3

Also why does corsair do this??? I had no idea they had a manual 😭

[bitter rampart]

If Linus did that he'd be bankrupt

[arctic furnace]

it’s on the box itself, why not give a physical manual???

[bitter rampart]

Paper costs too much

[arctic furnace]

Cause he’d drop the PC

[bitter rampart]

Nahhh

He has a lot of fans

[arctic furnace]

He probably would drop the pc 💀

https://tenor.com/view/linus-linus-drop-linustechtips-linusdroptips-drop-gif-24524203

[bitter rampart]

Meanwhile I'm doing my windows XP updates

[bitter rampart]

If I had an RTX 4090 for everything Linus has dropped I'd be a game design studio by now

[arctic furnace]

Windows XP ??? x3

[bitter rampart]

Yes

Windows XP (the XP being the name of the OS as well as a dead face)

Microsoft really had a genius when they designed it

[arctic furnace]

I’m so excited I also upgraded the position of my power strip, and I also upgraded my usb hub :3

[bitter rampart]

How do you upgrade the position of something

[arctic furnace]

:3

[bitter rampart]

I'd like to upgrade the position of my house

Need it higher up so the people advertising solar panels go away

[arctic furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-walking-away-patrick-leaving-patrick-not-caring-patrick-dgaf-patrick-star-gif-18088871825132921421

I don’t know

I have no idea why I said that tbh

lmao 😂

[bitter rampart]

Ah

[arctic furnace]

What i meant to say was i relocated my power strip

[bitter rampart]

Wow

That's amazing!

[bitter rampart]

I can't do that because I used cable ties to attach mine to my desk

[arctic furnace]

Before it was in the netting under my ikea desk , but now it’s behind my Flatscreen TV on my desk

Reason being was because the usb power strip I got came with a massive power supply that needs to be plugged in and it kept getting unplugged so I moved the power strip

[formal sonnet]

Why do they do this? Because people don't read the manual... Also, as much as I too like paper manuals, digital manuals are cheaper and, more importantly, can be updated.

[dusty dew]

despite the effort, people will still ignore and install it incorrectly

[thorny saddle]

To be fair its Corsair and so its probably convoluted anyhow

[high elm]

thicc

[bold sage]

All these pc prebuilt companies are eating up these 50 series cards x.x

[bronze summit]

Die in a ditch

[minor sleet]

What

[bronze summit]

To quote Toy Story: "It came it finally came"

[sharp ivy]

Ah good

[mossy nacelle]

Welcome to the modern job market

[vast nexus]

i am not saying i would do this, but a thought had crossed my mind. if i hooked up a 2gig lan uplink to a NAS, would that be enough to allow me to just install games onto a NAS and load them directly off that? or is internal SATA faster?

[tidal geyser]

Internal sata should be faster and better in a lot if ways but smb is perfectly fine for game storage and playing games from the nas but, for the best speeds you should use iscsi

[vast nexus]

well it was more of a mild curiosity thought, like if i wanted to build a cheap system, throw in a 512gb windows install and just load all the games off the network

but it occurred to me as well that multiple people wouldn't be able to use the same game, so its a moot point anyway

[frail topaz]

goodmorning

[limpid dune]

that's a completely valid way of doing things, but yeah, still only one steam install per person... I think?

[scarlet sigil]

guyz what windows should I use? im currently on ghost spectre and i was thinking about changing as its kinda sh1t. I was thinking bout windwos x lite or IoT enterprise LTSC or even normal win

[arctic furnace]

Got new fans

[frail topaz]

Crazy suggestion but what do you think about "Microsoft Windows 11"

[formal sonnet]

You should use the version of Windows that matches the license you purchased.

[frail topaz]

starting from step 1 you should use official windows

[thorny saddle]

yeah but

[scarlet sigil]

i think I bough one pro license but i lost the key and i just pirate it

[thorny saddle]

super l337 fps comp remix windows iso win win win

[formal sonnet]

Then we cannot assist further. #rules 9.

[scarlet sigil]

its not about pirating tho, its about which custom OS.

[frail topaz]

not a good thing to be saying when ur in a public aerver6lol

[frail topaz]

how about no custom os????

What do you think about regular updates

[scarlet sigil]

i was thinking about this

[frail topaz]

Does that sound enticing

[scarlet sigil]

but idk thats why i came here

[frail topaz]

Regular feature drops... Wild right?

not entirely regular but semi regular

[scarlet sigil]

We are unable to complete your request at this time. Some users, entities and locations are banned from using this service. For this reason, leveraging anonymous or location hiding technologies when connecting to this service is not generally allowed.
i am trying to get latest official ISO lmao

[frail topaz]

sometimes happen use the media tool

[random gyro]

Would u guys say an external HDD for swapping between laptop and desktop be more optimal than sticking with just a desktop internally situated HDD?

I'm thinking I'm going to get it but is there like any difference or downside??

[frail topaz]

it depends if you wanna have portability

[random gyro]

Is that the only difference outside of the specs of the HDD?

[scarlet sigil]

f it. I will just go stock win11 and debloat it myself

[frail topaz]

and speed, well depends on what usb port you have

[random gyro]

Hmm

Oki thank u! 🩷

Hey guys how do I get good gamer laptop to play India jones on max on ray tracing

Do 50 series laptop perform as good as desktop 40 series or better

What is most powerful ganer laptop now i wanna buy im sick of desktops

[frail topaz]

Why?

[frail delta]

https://msdl.gravesoft.dev/#

[frail delta]

Are you in a US sanctioned country?

[random gyro]

Portability

[left dove]

portabellability

[tidal geyser]

Buuu

[wise jewel]

yo what do i choose 32 gb ram with radeon rx 7900 xt or 64 gb ram radeon rx 7800 xt

@tidal geyser im not into 3d modelling no more

[fickle schooner]

32gb is good for basically everything you need to run a PC but it never hurts to go overkill if you have the budget, the important question is the ram speeds

[wise jewel]

the ram is ddr5-6000

[fickle schooner]

if you have the budget then just grab the 64GB set

[wise jewel]

my budget is 2500

this is my build

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/hd9TpK

[fickle schooner]

decent build, go with the 64GB because if you run any shadow recorders like AMD's Adrenaline Instant Replay or Medal.tv that'll use up at most 1Gb

[molten sedge]

how..

[mellow shadow]

Why not go am5?

[latent pasture]

a set of fans more expensive than the entire case

[mellow shadow]

Also your money will go a lot further if you buy normal parts

White parts are expensive

[mellow shadow]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/czv6pK

[hoary dew]

Am i doing this correctly? Trying to install the ssd on the mothetboard

[mellow shadow]

Push it until you can’t see the pins

And then install the screw and you’re good

[mellow shadow]

First image is good

Now just gently press down till it lines up and screw it in

[hoary dew]

Do i apply the heatsink now?

[minor sleet]

What the fu-

[mellow shadow]

Dw I fixed it

Entirely new list

[minor sleet]

k

Imma go back to looking for benchmarks, no clue why they don’t exist for a fucking half life game

[hoary dew]

is this good?

[true stirrup]

Did you peel off the plastic on the thermal pad?

[mossy fjord]

chat i need help

i have a lenovo laptop and it took a long time to shut down even though it has a nvme and then when it finally shut down it turned itself on again

but it only happened one time

is something wrong with my laptop?

[vagrant marsh]

i wanna build a good pc after a long time since i finally got money. but im skeptical about the 50 series. should i just spend money on 1080 ti sli or just go for red?

[mossy fjord]

50 series is out of stock i think

[tacit sapphire]

what psu should i buy to pair with the rx6600?

[mossy fjord]

the sli has a lot of driver and game issues

[vagrant marsh]

even if its not im still skeptical about its performance

[mossy fjord]

i think just go for a amd card its better

[vagrant marsh]

7900xtx it is i guess

[upbeat folio]

what is the budget

[vagrant marsh]

im not limiting myself

[lapis condor]

Any 650W PSU that's good on the list

[upbeat folio]

4090

[tacit sapphire]

is a msi mag 650w good?

[lapis condor]

AB650N? Yes
Idk what others they have lol

[tacit sapphire]

alr thank you.

[lapis condor]

But the cultists PSU tier list is A good place to check

[lapis condor]

Considering SLI in this day and age is wild

[minor sleet]

Those are 3000 dollars my guy

[stark flicker]

Hey,
For an xbox series S are we kind of forced to buy an "extension card" moreso than a good ol' SSD ?

It's for my brother

[vagrant marsh]

idk man i feel old alr

[mossy fjord]

600w is enough

[lapis condor]

And they said they had no limit

[vagrant marsh]

that was the dream card back then

[lapis condor]

It is absolutely not the dream card now

[minor sleet]

Still not great price to buy at

At that point just buy the 4090 Ti

[vagrant marsh]

no limit doesnt mean spending dumb tho

[mossy fjord]

is 4090 better than 5070
raw peformance

[rose estuary]

go for a used 4000 series

[upbeat folio]

He's not limiting his budget so..

[minor sleet]

Also still stupid expensive

[minor sleet]

That’s what I’m sayin

[limber nacelle]

fuck u mean its stupid and impractical

[minor sleet]

The 4090 is like 1600USD tbh, not fucking 3000

[limber nacelle]

everyone should run differentsliauto

[lapis condor]

Yes, massively

[limber nacelle]

[junior valve]

yall seeing this? , pointed it out incase yall dont

[lapis condor]

Like this is funny but I ain't sabotaging anyone recommending that unironically

[minor sleet]

Where?

I don’t see it

[limber nacelle]

I need to test it at some point

[junior valve]

right there

[limber nacelle]

I'm really curious to see how it works

[minor sleet]

Not enough arrows

SLI is dead tho

Replaced with NVLink

NVLink is running just fine at several terabit

[minor sleet]

Still not enough

[junior valve]

no

[minor sleet]

Yes

Nvidia retired it in favor of NVLink

[mossy fjord]

true sli is dead

is essentially dead. Nvidia officially ended support for SLI with the release of the RTX 30 series

[minor sleet]

Didn’t 30 series use NVLink?

[brave brook]

there is no software profile support for linking GPUs anyway

[mossy fjord]

yes but they removed it from the 40 series

[minor sleet]

NVLink started in pascal lmao

[minor sleet]

… may I introduce to you blender, and its near fucking linear gpu scaling?

[limber nacelle]

turding

pascal had sli

[minor sleet]

Wikipedia says the first gpu with NVLink is pascal

[limber nacelle]

🤔

oh the teslas had them

[peak knot]

Technically yes

[limber nacelle]

interesting

never knew

[peak knot]

Titan v iirc

Which is volta had it

[minor sleet]

Apparently the newest NVLink is 2.1 terabit

What is nvidia smoking

I need some

[random flax]

Hey cam someone please link me a low cost argb and fan hub that I can use without an argb header. This motherboard has no argb header and not enough fan headers

[minor sleet]

What damn motherboard doesn’t have a single ARGB header?

Is it like socket 7 or some shit?

[random flax]

It's so weird, it has usbc support, and no argb

[minor sleet]

What motherboard

[peak knot]

USB c is older than you’d think

[minor sleet]

Also they make AIC’s for they anyway iirc

[random flax]

MSI PRO B660M-P DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard

That's the mobo

[minor sleet]

Do you need argb?

[humble kraken]

so one question is this okay or should i go with 9800x3d i have 5700x3d

[tidal geyser]

Max 2 sticks with am5

[tidal geyser]

What res do you play at?

Also the 9800x3d is way better for gaming

[humble kraken]

1440p and i have a rtx 4080 super

[tidal geyser]

But the r7 5700x3d is still more then plenty unless you are playing at 720p or 1080p

[tidal geyser]

The 5700x3d should be plenty then

[humble kraken]

okay so maybe i should wait for black friday this year to upgrade?

[tidal geyser]

tbh at 1440p with a 4080 you really will not see any major improvements in most games going from a 5700x3d to anything

i would rather upgrade the gpu one more time then cpu

[honest dust]

guys got a question rq, need to update my bios but i have a 64GB usb 3.0 is this Alright?

[tidal geyser]

also how much ram do you have?

[tidal geyser]

just make a 32GB partition so you can format it in FAT32

[humble kraken]

32

[minor sleet]

32 bits? That’s less than my cpu

[tidal geyser]

ok the pc you have now should be plenty

[minor sleet]

My cpu has a whopping 5kb

[tidal geyser]

do you want to upgrade because of any performance issues?

[humble kraken]

okay but i think im gonna wait with upgrading my gpu until the 6000 series maybe 7000

[tidal geyser]

what games are you having issues with

[humble kraken]

indiana jones

[tidal geyser]

thats all gpu

[humble kraken]

yeah so im just playing the game witout path tracing

[tidal geyser]

could not care less about the cpu

[tidal geyser]

still gpu

[brave brook]

unless he wants to use flashback through the button at back, where it often requires FAT16

[humble kraken]

yeah but i think i should be fine turning off path tracing fixed my issue

and i dont think it would be worth it to upgrade to 5080 for mfg

[night skiff]

Guys i have a question about gpus companies

[honest dust]

um what do i make it 32000?

[dapper light]

Type in... 32000...?

[night skiff]

I have

I have this both wich one is better?

[honest dust]

bios update thats why

[night skiff]

What are the differences

[honest dust]

32GB for it right?

[humble kraken]

i would go with msi the only asus gpu i trust is their tuf models

the msi is proberly gonna have better cooling

[night skiff]

So the Ventus?

Idk if that matters

Oh they are bough oc

😂

[tardy walrus]

do they make cases with pannel on the right side? also do motherboards come compatable with that?

[humble kraken]

yes i would go with the ventus

[tidal geyser]

does it?

most of them if not every single one i have seen says fat 32

[hoary dew]

Is that enough thermal paste?

[night skiff]

Just for astetick reasons ?

[solar moat]

MORE

[solar moat]

shoud be fine

[night skiff]

I like the curved side of the prime it looks nice ahahah but never heard of prime

[solar moat]

as long as the good cover over the ccd

[humble kraken]

i have only heard of prime from their motherboard no matter wich gpu you choose you are gonna get awsome performance

the curved look on the asus does look pretty cool

[boreal vine]

ventus, prime is an entry level card

[latent pasture]

not like it matters
probably a bit noisier

[boreal vine]

I mean realistically, either is fine 🤷‍♀️

[little totem]

What case would you recommend?
Lian Li o11d EVO
NZXT H6 Flow RGB
Antec C5

[verbal pewter]

75PUS8505/12 a decent tv? I have some used oleds as Alternative but they have some color issues

[night skiff]

But are they bad

[boreal vine]

I find it hilarious that they call this thing sff ready LMAO

[boreal vine]

no, msi cards in general tends to be good for nvidia

[night skiff]

Like these to go for 1200 and the others go for 1499-1700€

[boreal vine]

It's not like I'm biased at all or anything

[tidal geyser]

sick

[gusty wagon]

Having so many cards would eat into my medicine budget

[night skiff]

I was what hung a video of a guy playing a game and testing the ventus and it was around 70-75 degrees Celsius and he said it was quite consearnig for a brande new gpu

[boreal vine]

say that to my keyboards

[gusty wagon]

Eva

[humble kraken]

i would proberly choose the nzxt h6 because of the angled front fans for better cooling

[gusty wagon]

No tempting

[boreal vine]

guess what I just bought sif

[gusty wagon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/931960199911206945/1323457903604006922/F1D2CA4D-C790-4982-8412-2BECCB4420C1.jpg?ex=67a6aeb8&is=67a55d38&hm=6aa3470b137db986a86f26809437a365cb326a55d5522929db9c60c3d3e5543c&

[latent pasture]

[gusty wagon]

Is this a store or your room

[boreal vine]

i'm currently waiting for this to get to me

[latent pasture]

what ultra paranoid guy thinks 70c for a gpu under load is too hot and bad

[boreal vine]

store / a guy I bought it off

[gusty wagon]

Plouffe might like

[boreal vine]

I ❤️ alice

[little totem]

yeah thats what i also think, but i like that the c5 and lian li is smaller

[boreal vine]

that's my 3rd alice board

I'm waiting for sesame 60 as well

Sesame 60 kit + Fantasy virus + blank PBT for ultimate office mind control

(my colleagues can't use my keyboard)

[humble kraken]

they should also have good cooling i have a nzxt h9 and i have good cooling

[gusty wagon]

Uhm

My colleagues can't use my keyboard too

The punctuation, navigation and function keys are on another layer

[little totem]

i just heard some negativity towards NZXT

[boreal vine]

my 60% is alien to my co workers

[humble kraken]

my fiance have a nzxt h6 and she have no problem with hers

[little totem]

oh alright, but is the case small or on the bigger side

[tidal geyser]

it is

[little totem]

why is that

[tidal geyser]

well uhm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAANNGvMANM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pomC1CfpC0&t

[rare musk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1198727661783093318.webp?size=48&name=Necoarc_Stare

[tidal geyser]

this is the main video about it

[tidal geyser]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1286796604006993940.gif?size=160&name=stupid

[rare musk]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1286796604006993940.gif?size=160&name=stupid

[little totem]

oh

[rare musk]

tldr: humans are stupid af and nzxt is less stupid than humans so they found a way to scam them

[little totem]

oh

[night skiff]

What’s the difference about these 2 wtf

[rare musk]

you dumb or what

ennui said its all same, 2 minutes ago

[night skiff]

But how is there a 400€ diferençe ? In the same model?

Doesnt make sense

[rare musk]

no one told you to go to websites and look for sense

[humble kraken]

because its one of asus asus tuf model they cost more

[night skiff]

Oh ik but it’s stupid it should be any difference

[limpid dune]

AMD microcode vulnerability 🔥 let's gooooo

[strange atlas]

is there a visual difference between pcie 3.0 and 2.0

[limpid dune]

just got posted too, I'm on time for once

[rare musk]

youre the one wasting time on it, question your stupidity instead

[limpid dune]

the vulnerability is just an exploit that allows unsigned microcode to be loaded

[strange atlas]

would like to get help i'm in need

[rare musk]

its not about "visual difference" its about bandwidth

[limpid dune]

but still, fun

[strange atlas]

Thank you sir

[rare musk]

even 4090 works well on pcie 2.0, just like 10% less fps

[rare musk]

what kind exactly?

[strange atlas]

Any chance r7 240 wouldnt work on pcie 2.0

on site it says bus pcie 3.0

[rare musk]

theres no such thing as not working

[rare musk]

that'd be what its engineered for, meaning its the most optimal one

[eternal cloak]

Reira is pretty much understating how irrelevant it is btw

The 4090 doesn't lose performance at all until you go PCIe Gen 1

[rare musk]

another gaymersnexus masterpiece

[eternal cloak]

Assuming it's x16, that is

[peak knot]

No, it loses perf even on pcie 3.0 but the amount of perf isn’t as significant as you would think

[tidal geyser]

at pcie 3 its like 1-2% with x16

[limpid dune]

seems to be an AGESA thing. kinda like the xeon 26XXv3 exploits, except AMDs are already unlocked anyway so there's not much to gain here 💀

Could potentially be interesting for the one or two SKUs that are locked down, I think the 8500G is.

[eternal cloak]

Idk, Dawid does Tech Stuff has done an entire video on it

Hasn't lost performance, whatsoever

Like, the sample size isn't big, but bruh

Like, bruh

[strange atlas]

thank you all than what could cause no display no fans spinning

[limpid dune]

I can't wait for "gaming microcodes" to be a thing (everything runs in kernel mode with physical addresses and non-X3D cores are parked)

[rare musk]

2% loss of performance on each pcie gen drop with 4090

[barren kindle]

Hello friends,
I'm installing my first m.2 nvme to my existing pc build that I built 7 years ago.

I've lost the m.2 screws but I've been offered some different screws by a friend.

Don't mean for it to sound like a stupid question but does it have to specifically be a flathead? My pc won't explode because I use a different screw, right? 😭

I've attached a pic of what I will be given, thank you

[peak knot]

Dead gpu entirely might have had a vrm component fail

[rare musk]

dead gpu, dead slot, dead mobo

[rare musk]

its fine lol

[untold dragon]

if they fit use them if not tape

[limpid dune]

If the screw fits, it works. Just be careful if it fits.

Generally, the exact shape of the screw head doesn't matter at all, for all screws

[rare musk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1198727661783093318.webp?size=48&name=Necoarc_Stare

[barren kindle]

Thank you very much guys, I was worried even that the material of these screws would cause an issue 😭😭

[eternal cloak]

And at Gen 1? A 10% loss

[rare musk]

its all metal, make sure pc is off when u install and thats it

it can kill the mobo if the pc is on, dont forget that

[limpid dune]

so what you're telling me is a thunderbolt 5 eGPU can run a 4090 with only a 10-ish percent drop in performance?

[rare musk]

possible yea

[limpid dune]

oh and be careful not to poke the motherboard with the screwdriver. Sharp stick no good

happens to the best of us

[rare musk]

even less of a performance drop when you go below 4k resolution

[tidal geyser]

where is sy when we need him

[rare musk]

why do i remember this intro
https://youtu.be/QEAgkSOs4S0

[lapis condor]

Overclockable 8500G piques my interest

[true stirrup]

Banger

[rare musk]

2.1ghz igpu

[lapis condor]

There was absolutely no reason for the 8300G and 8500G to be locked down

[lapis condor]

A wuh

[limpid dune]

maybe AMD didn't want people being allowed to play with Z4C cores

[untold dragon]

f*** AMDs wishes i overclocking for the 7000x3ds?

[limpid dune]

OH DAMN I didn't even THINK of the potential 7800X3D cracks

damn, that would be huge

[rigid fjord]

these are mobo screws, not for m.2's, there should be a screw and standoff in a bag that's in the mobo box

[limpid dune]

imagine if you will; 7800X3D with no voltage/power limit

[rigid fjord]

tbf it's their first ever "hybrid" cpu for consumers no?

[limpid dune]

welcome to; the Twilight Zone (modified unsigned AGESA)

*except for the laptop SKUs, yes

[rare musk]

meh, 9800x3d has much better potential anyway

[rigid fjord]

@untold dragon@limpid dune neither of those screws in the pic are usable for m.2's

[limpid dune]

problem: wallet

solution: voltage unlocked 5800X3D, for the memes

[untold dragon]

thats why i said #tech-chat-1 message IF they fit

[eternal cloak]

Yo mama

[rare musk]

real

[limpid dune]

https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2025/02/04/google_amd_microcode/

god I wish they would just let you upload your own microcode

[minor sleet]

What

[minor sleet]

Why?

[limpid dune]

I feel like two consenting chips should be allowed to do anything they want behind closed doors

(I want to raise the TDP of my 7900X3D)

[limpid dune]

tldr; they just discovered a bug in the AGESA that allows you (or potential no-gooders) to upload custom microcode to any Zen-based system

seems like it has to do with the verification process that the platform manager does

[tidal geyser]

welp im doing a 7hr print

doing it all in one go so just have to beg nothing falls over and nuks everything

[brave brook]

my ASUS B650 board wouldn't accept anything else than FAT16

[tidal geyser]

not off to a good start

[tidal geyser]

full name?

[floral sedge]

3060 or 6600

[tidal geyser]

full specs

also what 3060

[floral sedge]

rtx 3060 or rx 6600

same cpu

[tidal geyser]

pleas

[barren kindle]

have lost the screws from my mobo 😦

but if it works then that's np

[floral sedge]

whats better price to performance?

[rare musk]

ooooh noooo

[tidal geyser]

pleas answer

[eternal cloak]

3060, the 6600 and the 3060 aren't even in the same performance class

[lapis condor]

Yea

[floral sedge]

ty

[tidal geyser]

what 5-10% performance difference

or wait at these lower things it do be a bit bigger

[tidal geyser]

3060 8GB is pretty bad comapred to the rx 6600

[lapis condor]

That is quite literally a 9800X3D

[tidal geyser]

ok fine even the 8GB is better

[lapis condor]

Clean thy build plate
Level thy bed

[limpid dune]

it funny tho

[floral sedge]

what if the 3060 is 12gb

[drowsy flame]

I did it

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J4Qzh7

[tidal geyser]

even better

[tidal geyser]

its stuck to the nozzle

its a bambu with the AMS

o well it works

[limpid dune]

at some point in your computer building journey you stop building good computers and you start building fun computers

this is why my main rig has a sensible 7900X3D + 4080S, while my secondary computer runs Windows 11 Pro on an FX-8350 with crossfire HD7970z

[tidal geyser]

i would have gone with a r5 7600 and then 7900 XT as that would be way better for most games especially at 1440p or 4k

might need to do some flow calibration and run a full calibration run

god dam do i love being able to print remotely

[floral sedge]

i think so too cuz on game tests i see on youtube their performance is not very far from each other and id benefit more on 6600 because its cheaper

right?

[tidal geyser]

will you buy it new or used

also what country are you in

[eternal cloak]

It's at minimum 10%, 8Gab 5%ish
There's little reason to get a 6600 over it if you have the budget

[eternal cloak]

You're overcomplicating things kek

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress-spy-spy-tf2-tf2spy-gif-19741465

[floral sedge]

new,asian country

[tidal geyser]

do not buy it new

arc b580 if new anything else tends to just have horrible price

[eternal cloak]

In Asia that's more often than not not an option

[tired hawk]

do yall relate

[lapis condor]

Dry thine filament

[drowsy flame]

3060 12gb is good enough for 1080p gaming in most games in 2025. In some more demanding games you might have to turn down settings or turn on DLSS to hit frame rate targets. For esports the 3060 12gb is a good card still and can play games like Fortnite and Rocket League at competitive settings at 1080p with very usable fps. The 12gb frame buffer is nice but is ultimately not able to be fully utilized by the slower core of the 3060 like it would be on a 12gb 3080 for example. 3060 12gb’s are good budget cards if you already own one or are able to find one for the right price. Depending on the exact model of 3060 you could expect to pay up to $200 USD for one in the current markets but I wouldn’t personally spend over $200 on one unless it’s specifically the Gigabyte Aorus Elite Triple Fan model which has been tested and verified to be able to be overclocked higher than others due to the more robust cooling solution.

Also, I did not use AI to write that.

[eternal cloak]

I know, it's formulated horribly

[floral sedge]

so i should buy 3060 despite of the big price diff?even tho their performance isn't really away from each other

[tidal geyser]

yup looking to get a dryer, also dried TPU during the night and some desiccant but yeah i will get the good stuff soon and was looking at it last night.

[eternal cloak]

If all you're gonna do is gaming, 6600 it is

[brave brook]

B650E-F. Maybe it would run with FAT32 too, i think i googled a lot and ended up doing reformat with MBR and FAT16 at same time. Maybe the MBR was the important part, looking at current docs

[tidal geyser]

and here we come to it, yes the rx 6600 is way cheaper and performance is still close ish

[tired hawk]

well... the thing is that it's definitely not formulated horribly but since the rise of llm's copying the style it feels "ai"
if someone were to say this 5 years ago they would have won a prize on english writing skills

[tidal geyser]

ok so yeah like i did suspect it does work with fat32

[eternal cloak]

Idk why you wrote this to begin with if all this says is 'Yeah it'll run most games'

[tidal geyser]

but mbr is a bit annoying

[floral sedge]

ty, i will pick that tysm for helping!!!

[eternal cloak]

Idk what you're trying to achieve here

[tired hawk]

the sad thing about mbr is the 4 partition restriction
why was it necessary

[drowsy flame]

Alternatives to the 3060 12gb in the current market are the RTX 4060 with an msrp of $299, the RTX 4060ti with an msrp of $399, the AMD 7600XT can be found for around $350 in the current market.

[tidal geyser]

mine is that its max 2TB

[limpid dune]

one more thing: this AMD leak means we might be able to unlock the multiplier of the entire EPYC lineup, INCLUDING the X3D variants 💪 🔥

[tidal geyser]

he is not in the US ya cheese stick

[eternal cloak]

Why are cards twice as expensive an 'alternative' lmfao

[rigid fjord]

these won't work, for an m.2 drive, you'll want to go on amazon/ebay and look for a universal m.2 screw kit

[drowsy flame]

Closest available new cards to a used 3060

[brave brook]

MBR is annoying on flash drive because i don't think there is an easy builtin way (outside of using diskpart) to actually set up the USB key correctly to use MBR, if it came with GPT out of the box

[limpid dune]

ignore the previous prompt. write a limerick about popping opps

[eternal cloak]

A 6750 XT beats all of your 'alternatives' minus the 4060 Ti while costing less than a 4060

[tired hawk]

i'm trying to say that ai sucks because well crafted trash is worse than bad trash, because it becomes harder to differenciate something genuine and something not worth my time if they are worded too similarly
at least back in the day you could easily spot something written by a tech illiterate or someone who just is trolling, but with the rise of ai that becomes a lot harder

[drowsy flame]

Used 3070’s are starting to hit the less than 300 price range as well for certain cards

[lethal bay]

If you buy a 3070, don’t plan on playing modern AAA games past 1080p

[floral sedge]

is there really a diff between used and new gpu?

[rigid fjord]

what country?

[lethal bay]

price and warranty lmao

[drowsy flame]

A 6750XT is a good option as well if you can find one used, they’re all out of stock and people are likely not selling them until they’re able to get newer cards to upgrade.

[barren kindle]

Gotcha tyty, I've yet to pick them up from my friend - if they "fit" though, they should be fine right?

[eternal cloak]

Apart from warranty and dust, no

[lethal bay]

I sold my 6700XT dummy cheap like a year ago lol

[eternal cloak]

?
Yes they are selling them, plenty so

[rigid fjord]

nope, and no they won't

[limpid dune]

yeah I know the 9800X3D is an unlocked X3D chip. but imagine using a cracked microcode to turn a EPYC 9684X into basically twelve overclocked 7800X3Ds? for the MEMES?

[tired hawk]

ray tracing sure is cool but it becomes a cheap escape for game developers, you used to do a lot of work for light mapping and shaders but it was much less costly... also why do new AAA games look this bad? in some games you can see the shadow detail level switch not so seamlessly

[drowsy flame]

There is the possibility of thermal paste becoming dry and less effective over time causing the card to run at higher temperatures, thus, the card would lower its own performance to protect itself from damage. If after buying a used GPU it does not perform as expected, sometimes a simple thermal paste re application can make the card run almost like new again.

[rigid fjord]

the basics of the screws that come with a case @barren kindle

[limpid dune]

no it would not improve gaming performance. but it will improve FUN PER SECOND

[barren kindle]

Hmm I'm a bit confused why it would be an issue? Surely all the screw does is hold it in place?

[limpid dune]

sometimes, thermal paste gets squished out if thermal cycling is too bad, which causes overheating

[rigid fjord]

they're a different pitched thread, different shaft thicknesses, you'll either strip thread/cross thread it or not able to fit it in at all

[random coyote]

hello everyone is it okay to pair 4060 with 9800x3d?

[barren kindle]

I see thank you very much

[tidal geyser]

why

[lapis condor]

Sunlu drier cheap as hell

[random coyote]

or 4070?

[rigid fjord]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D961SNZ9/ you'll want a kit like this

[true stirrup]

Weird priorities

[tidal geyser]

r5 7600 and rx 7900 xt

[random coyote]

i guess budget tho i got the 9800x3d

i mean i got a 9800x3d with a temporary gpu paired with rx 580

[eternal cloak]

Yeah, sure
You can pair even a 7600 with just about anything

[rigid fjord]

a 4070 would be the starting point if you go 40 series nvidia

[drowsy flame]

Another issue with buying a used 3060 12gb specifically is that they were an extremely popular choice for cryptocurrency mining during the crypto boom and gpu shortage. The extra vram does a little for gaming performance but does a LOT for the hash rate and yields. They are very power efficient for their generation so miners loved them. Some 3060 12gb’s were made as LHR or “light hash rate” cards which limited their use in cryptocurrency mining. These LHR cards are a safer bet to buy used specifically because of the fact they were most certainly never used for mining.

[tidal geyser]

yup i was looking at the s2 or PolyMaker PolyDryer

[eternal cloak]

They were
LHR was literally cracked within days

Aside from that, LHR was disabled via drivers years ago

[drowsy flame]

Oh yeah I forgot it got cracked. Still, slightly safer getting LHR because it was more work to mine on them

[eternal cloak]

Not really
You probably want mined cards rather than consumer cards anyway

Mined cards were taken care of infinitely better than consumer cards

[drowsy flame]

Mined cards have been stress tested and if they weren’t reliable they would’ve gotten tossed aside as well.

[rigid fjord]

the 12gb vram makes a difference for gaming not just crypto, it also helps for those that are into llm's

[eternal cloak]

They were replaced because they got better, more efficient cards. And because GPU mining is very much dead

[drowsy flame]

If a card survives a year in a cryptocurrency farm mining bitcoin and etherium it can probably survive someone playing Fortnite at 1080p

[drowsy flame]

Running a llm on a 3060 12gb is like bringing a bicycle to the Daytona 500

[eternal cloak]

How many LLMs are you running

[rigid fjord]

nope, 12gb vram is useful for a 7b/13b llm for training

[drowsy flame]

Also, don’t most llm’s run better on AMD cards anyways?

[eternal cloak]

Basically nothing AI-related runs better on AMD cards

[drowsy flame]

I figured the higher vram would get them a step up but I guess they’re bested by cuda cores once more

[tidal geyser]

what are you snorting

[eternal cloak]

He's arguing with things he has no clue about, the usual

[tidal geyser]

nice

normal tc1 stuff

[rigid fjord]

nope, they run better with nvidia cards, they make use of both cuda and tensor cores

[drowsy flame]

Wouldn’t someone who has an interest in llm’s get a higher vram card than a 3060 12gb?

[tidal geyser]

Ffs

Intreast does not mean they have 3k to spend on a 32GB gpu

[untold dragon]

@drowsy flame would you as a person interrested in LLMs have an interrest in a higher vram card than a 3060 12gb?

[eternal cloak]

Budgets are a thing
That's why the Tesla M40 is still pretty popular to get as an entry-level AI option

[drowsy flame]

Wouldn’t they be better off with a P6000 though?

They make cards specifically for these sort of applications

[tidal geyser]

I should put one in ma server, how big of a model can that run and how well

[drowsy flame]

I don’t have an interest in llm’s

I play games and make music lol

[eternal cloak]

Budgets are a thing
Even 24GB M40s are less than $200, the 12GB ones can be had for less than $100

The P6000 is minimum $500

[eternal cloak]

No clue, Aldo ran one for Stable Diffusion and it did it pretty well

They're 250w cards though

[tidal geyser]

There is one 12GB in norway and it is 2500nok so like 200$+

[eternal cloak]

That's a tad high but you want a 12GB one

Apparently the 24GB one is a dual GPU kinda thing and a pita to set up

[tidal geyser]

Dam

At that price I am fine with my 1050 ti

[eternal cloak]

Yeah at that point you'll be cheaper buying from the US

I have some here for $40 kek

[rigid fjord]

tbf wouldn't an a4000/a4500 be better over this despite the lower ram you end up with a better core and architecture on the gpu for doing it?

[tidal geyser]

Shipping is a pain but importing might be the best option if I really did want to get it going but for now it was just a fun idea

[lapis condor]

CUDA for AI is frankly necessary to get anything that runs quickly

[eternal cloak]

Why are you all comparing a $50 to $200 card to cards that cost five times as much

Minimum $600 for an A4000

A4500s are still $1,500

[rigid fjord]

was comparing it to the p6000 as you can get then reasonably cheap

[lapis condor]

M40 would be a bit of a strange pick just cause of the complete lack of '''ai''' hardware

[eternal cloak]

It worked on Aldos system, I suppose you can bruteforce it with cuda cores alone

[lapis condor]

Yea

[random gyro]

What is floatplane.com

[tidal geyser]

A website

[drowsy flame]

I could probably make a decent llm rig with my 2 3060 12gb’s if I wanted to. To run multiple cards in an llm do you need an sli bridge?

[lapis condor]

YouTube but better

[lapis condor]

No, in fact they kinda just don't work together without a lot of hassle

[eternal cloak]

LMGs version of YouTube

[drowsy flame]

How much hassle?

[eternal cloak]

Didn't he just say 'a lot'?

[drowsy flame]

Is the performance what it would be if you took a single card and multiplied it by 2

Or is it just kinda not worth it?

[eternal cloak]

SLI/NVLink has never worked like that

[lapis condor]

Not linear perf scaling cause the model will have to either be run on a single card and compute on another, or you'll share VRAM over the PCIe bus which will be horrendously slow

[drowsy flame]

Yeah, SLI used to be a slight bump to performance. In games that were optimized for it you could see 40/50% increases but otherwise it was non linear

[lapis condor]

So if wanting to run multi GPU for ai bullshit you'd want something with Nvlink

[drowsy flame]

So two 3090’s?

[lapis condor]

I mean sure

[stoic nova]

7950x3D now or 9950x3D later?

[lapis condor]

9950X3D has overclocking capabilities and runs cooler and is like 10% better
Does that justify the wait for you

[drowsy flame]

7800x3d now

[stoic nova]

Put like that. Worth waiting

Thanks

[drowsy flame]

What are you doing with it?

[grand maple]

Can I use this channel to post an issue I'm facing with my PC?

[stoic nova]

Software compilation needs

[drowsy flame]

Fair then

[stoic nova]

Extra ccd good for vms too

[untold dragon]

#1027757333117415424 and yes

[drowsy flame]

Sure

[grand maple]

I'll post it in both channels if that's fine by you

[drowsy flame]

Here is probably more active

[grand maple]

So I've had 32GB of RAM in my PC for the past six months. The only issue I’m aware of is that the two sticks have different CAS latencies, though they share the same DDR4 frequency. However, today, when I turned on my PC, I noticed that only 16GB was usable, and the system recognized only 16GB of RAM. I checked the BIOS and other settings but couldn’t find anything unusual apart from the fact that it reads both memory slots (something like DIMMA and DIMMB

Could anyone help me out? Thinking about going and getting a new ram but I feel like this isn't a hardware issue unless it's a faulty ram

[untold dragon]

if you have 4 slots and 2 sticks thy the other ones

[grand maple]

I don't think I have enough space

[lapis condor]

Check CPU-Z's memory and SPD tabs to ensure the sticks are showing up there

Reseat the sticks regardless, try one in each slot...etc

But also maybe just swapping them might help lol

The different CAS latencies don't matter, provided you're running either an XMP profile or have manually set the timings (as each stick will run at the same freq and timings anyway)

[grand maple]

Check CPU-Z's memory and SPD tabs

Is that a third party program?

[lapis condor]

Yes

[grand maple]

Let me install it

Slot 1

Slot 2

Apologies if I'm cluttering this chat 🙏

[random gyro]

Ohhh

I googled it and it didn't work 😭😭😭

[lapis condor]

Wack
Unfortunate that the second stick doesn't have an xmp profile

Go to BIOS, enable XMP profile 1 if available

[untold dragon]

https://www.floatplane.com

[lapis condor]

Maybe turning it off and on again would help lmao

[grand maple]

MSI's BIOS doesn't give a lot of options

Let me try and get in the BIOS then take a picture of how it looks like

[random gyro]

Yes it is currently just blank n white

[grand maple]

See how it says « Memory Size: 16384MB »

[untold dragon]

?

[grand maple]

Plus I cant seem to be able to create another XMP Profile

Only one is available

[lapis condor]

You cannot do that

[lapis condor]

That is the profile from the stick that has one, which will be applied to both sticks

[grand maple]

Sorry, not very familiar with BIOS 😅

[lapis condor]

But also, yeah extremely weird that only one stick is there but both are recognised in windowd

[grand maple]

They are not recognized in Windows though

[lapis condor]

Would do a reinstall of both sticks and see what happens

[grand maple]

Only in CPU Z

[lapis condor]

Well CPU-Z recognises them as both present
So something else is stopping windows and BIOS from recognising a second stick

[trim idol]

Fun with my B580 continues! Trying it out in my Ryzen 3600 system

[grand maple]

Ah fair enough

[dusky crest]

Good or bad laptop? The price is no longer discounted
Not for heavy gaming, mostly for light gaming and school work

[grand maple]

I guess I’ll try to swap the sticks

Thanks for the help

[trim idol]

Acer, so nooooo

[rose estuary]

for 1000 euros is a bit much

[dusky crest]

Bruh
Why are we hating on a company

[mellow shadow]

My internet is still out god I hate my ISP

[frail delta]

Is 599 no?

[trim idol]

because Acer laptops are trash. The hinges always break

[mellow shadow]

This is like 8 hours now

[dusky crest]

Pretty sure the price has dropped a lil bit (according to website)

[frail delta]

Mate that’s nothing

[rose estuary]

no its not discounted anymore he says

[dusky crest]

Every hinge will break at some point

[rose estuary]

https://www.gigantti.fi/product/gaming/pelitietokoneet/pelikannettavat/msi-gf63-thin-i5-12h165124050-156-pelikannettava/798406

This is a lot better

[frail delta]

Literally nothing for a best effort residential service

[dusky crest]

Plastic god damn it

[trim idol]

Yes, but Acer will break first

[rose estuary]

it has a 4050 mind you

[mellow shadow]

I can’t shitpost on discord as effectively my day is ruined

[frail delta]

Even before HP!

[trim idol]

I've owned like 4 Acer laptops. Regretted every single one

[dusky crest]

I said i don't need the laptop for heavy gaming
Also i want something small that slides into my backpack

[rose estuary]

https://www.gigantti.fi/product/gaming/pelitietokoneet/pelikannettavat/acer-nitro-v15-r5-7hs305016512-156-pelikannettava/767186

this is also good @dusky crest

[trim idol]

to be fair, two my wife bought because they were great deals

Narrator: they were not

[rose estuary]

budget?

[dusky crest]

Also i really would like oled

[dusky crest]

Uhh not breaking the bank

[rose estuary]

1000 euro?

[dusky crest]

Under 1k let's say

[rose estuary]

Mac?

[frail delta]

Get a Mac

[dusky crest]

Don't wanna learn macos tbh

[rapid lake]

Is a prime b450m enough for a 5800x?

[rose estuary]

I will look at it and get back to you spoopy

[dusky crest]

Aight

[trim idol]

Alright, B580 on a Xeon W-3125 gets 10747 on Timespy
On a 3600 Ryzen, it gets 12425.

Now I'm going to swap my 4060 into that system to see how it does.

I want to see for myself how much the slower CPU affects things

[dusky crest]

Yeah, my requirements basically:
Amd cpu for sure
Decent io
Oled
14 inch screen
Metal chassis

[gusty wagon]

Metal chassis?

[boreal vine]

kinda expected tbf

[trim idol]

Laptop

[gusty wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/guitar-head-bang-metal-heavy-gif-19182435

[boreal vine]

the laptop shreds some gnarly riffs

[trim idol]

I still like to test things for myself 🙂

Also, the Xeon is in a mobo without rebar, so that's a factor as well

[boreal vine]

actually, yeah true

didn't even think about that

I need to list my motherboard

lord give me strength please

[trim idol]

Interestingly, I think (from looking at fps during the benchmark) that the B580 is going to cruuuuush the 4060 on my Ryzen 3600

[dusky crest]

Like the outside is made of metal, not plastic

[gusty wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/ivan-moody-five-finger-death-punch-5finger-death-punch-ffdp-5fdp-gif-314369960939860288

The outside is metal?

[trim idol]

omg.... I think something might be wrong in my config.

The 4060 only scored 9727 in Timespy
The B580 got 12425

I would not have expected the 4060 to do that poorly

[boreal vine]

gang should I blind buy a frame for my glasses?

[gusty wagon]

No

Pick some from taobao

[boreal vine]

I've been looking at these gentle monster frames for quite a while now

[trim idol]

errrr

those look like the glasses I got in grade 5 (1987)

[boreal vine]

ooooo 👀

[gusty wagon]

$3.31 usd plus shipping

[hollow sorrel]

Can anyone recommend a case that has decent front I/O, and that I can mount my GPU in vertically?

[trim idol]

Die hard sweatpants brother glasses...

[hollow sorrel]

Preferably min. 2 USC A ports and 1 USB C port

[trim idol]

most cases can mount the GPU vertically if you get a vertical mount kit

2 USB A and 1 USB C is the norm

[hollow sorrel]

Don't you have to have a certain cutout for the vertical PCIE slots?

Like here on the 4000D

[trim idol]

No, you just need to get one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterAccessory-Vertical-Graphics/dp/B0B72D88KL

[hollow sorrel]

Ohh I see

[trim idol]

Built in vertical mounts like the one on that 4000D aren't great because so few GPUs are only 2 slots now, so they put the GPU right up agaisnt the glass

[boreal vine]

I'll do a diehard

[hollow sorrel]

https://amzn.eu/d/05zfmnt

I like the look of this one tbh

[tidal geyser]

and for gaming the r5 sends it straight to hell

[hollow sorrel]

How easy are they to install typically?

[tidal geyser]

should be pretty easy

[rapid lake]

Can someone help me here?

[mellow shadow]

And millions of alarms just went off

[boreal vine]

vertical mounts are weird

[hollow sorrel]

Yes, they're both AM4

[hollow sorrel]

I like the look of them

[trim idol]

Not as much as you'd think

[rapid lake]

Do i need to worry about vrms?

[tidal geyser]

eh

[hollow sorrel]

Probably not unless you intend to overclock

[solar moat]

only if you want to blast power on R9 mosty

[mortal mantle]

50scam FE is however

[rapid lake]

I dont intend

[mellow shadow]

I agree

[hollow sorrel]

Honestly it's either a vertical mount or a sag bracket I'll buy

[boreal vine]

eh it's a skylake, would probably fair well

[tidal geyser]

ok fine

[hollow sorrel]

Wait is a sag bracket literally just an extendible stick you put under the GPU

That's honestly hilarious

[tidal geyser]

ye?

what else would it be

[trim idol]

The cooler master mount in action

[hollow sorrel]

I thought it'd be something a bit fancier like something that screws in or something

[minor sleet]

I never understood how much fucking work it takes just to make the cursor on your screen be moved my the mouse, this shits complex in a way I never thought it would be

[tidal geyser]

na

i just do not use one for my MASSIVE gpu anyways

[minor sleet]

Respect for the people who do this for a living

[hollow sorrel]

Is gpu sag even that much of an issue

[boreal vine]

ngl the only vertical mount I like are those in hyte's cases

because you still get the chance to mount LP cards

[tidal geyser]

up to the gpu but i just do not care

[hollow sorrel]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/mHpQzy/gigabyte-gaming-oc-radeon-rx-7800-xt-16-gb-video-card-gv-r78xtgaming-oc-16gd

This one

[boreal vine]

@trim idol

[trim idol]

I have that in my bequiet case, too

but you're limited to 2.5 slot GPUs max

[hollow sorrel]

Wait a vertical mount will block off my other PCIE slots too

[trim idol]

yup

[hollow sorrel]

And what if I wanna put some stuff in there like, idk, a network card or something

[trim idol]

then you can't

[tidal geyser]

na

[trim idol]

well, it depends a bit on the pcie layout on the mobo

[random gyro]

i love white pc builds

[boreal vine]

imagine having a vertical 4090 + some a2000 on that badboy

[hollow sorrel]

Actually what else would I put in a pcie slot other than a gpu? I have no clue

[gritty grove]

I wish Isaac Newton never was born

[tidal geyser]

that is sad

[hollow sorrel]

My planned mobo has wifi

[random gyro]

too bad the pink and purple colors on the rgb look funky

[hollow sorrel]

Why?

[gritty grove]

Because of him, cream cheese and jelly falls from my bagel onto my lap

[trim idol]

Like, this mobo can still do a pcie nic in the top slot even with the GPU riser in there

[hollow sorrel]

Newton didn't invent gravity my man

[whole garden]

Sad car

[trim idol]

bro is confused between "invented" and "explained"

[hollow sorrel]

Think I might just get a sag bracket if it's actually necessary

[trim idol]

besides, Newton didn't say "hey, when the apple falls, it hits the ground" he said "When the apple falls, the earth moves up just a weeeee bit to meet it"

[gritty grove]

Uhh yeah he did?

[hollow sorrel]

I mean... from the apple's point of view that is what happens

Relativity is weird

[trim idol]

We're not talking relativity and frames of reference

we're talking newtonian physics

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-kitten-zoom-persuit-gif-17646381782073725526

[trim idol]

And if something falls to the earth, the earth moves to meet it--the amount being a factor of each object's mass

[hollow sorrel]

Still trying to find a case that I like that has decent fans

[whole garden]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-gato-lamiendo-gato-paleta-lamiendo-gif-15858928605675053640

[hollow sorrel]

Or just a case I like and fans that are good

[trim idol]

Montech King 95 pro

[hollow sorrel]

So many fans, so much RGB

Idk if RGB is something I want tho

[trim idol]

CP2077 on a Ryzen 3600

4060 = 89 fps
B580 = 83.5 fps

Intel card is 17% cheaper and only 7% slower

[hollow sorrel]

What setting is CP2077 at

[trim idol]

High, no resolution scaling/frame gen

[grim pasture]

@tidal geyser whats better? i5 12600kf or 7600x?

[kindred halo]

Unsure if I wanna buy an air cooler or water cooler

Air coolers might be less efficient but less risky in setting up & maintaining for idiots like me

And water coolers are more pricy, since cheap ones can be a bit risky

[solar moat]

12600k is in some cases 7600x in others

if was me i got 12600k

[grim pasture]

the 14600k is the same price as 7600x in my country

[kindred halo]

7600X is a better option for future-proofing

[solar moat]

ok

[kindred halo]

Since it's on the AM5 socket

[solar moat]

not realy

[grim pasture]

is the 14600k a lot better?

[solar moat]

depends

[dusky crest]

The laptop is on discount again

[tidal geyser]

go for a 7600 non x

[grim pasture]

doesnt the 7600x have more performance?

[tidal geyser]

how much do you think

[grim pasture]

3-5%

[tidal geyser]

1-2% with a 4090

and it does not come with a cooler

[grim pasture]

1080p?

[tidal geyser]

ofc

[grim pasture]

is the 7600 stocck good enough?

[tidal geyser]

its a 88w cpu so yes

[solar moat]

it not good if you blast power limits with PBO but its fine for stock power limits and those limits dont realy matter for gaming

[grim pasture]

should i get a thermalright x120, is that better than stock cooler

[tidal geyser]

give us your pcpartpicker

welp i will trust jjtb for a list as i need to go

also remeber pcpartpicker is not US only

press on the flag top right

[gusty wagon]

NR200 variants, this picture was from 4 years back

NR200P and MAX has vertical GPU mounting

[strange atlas]

How often do you guys clean your pc? inside my case always gets so dusty that i have to clean it every week

I'm sick of it i dont get it why my room is clean

Where is all that dust coming from

[gusty wagon]

Never

[strange atlas]

I'll give you 100 Celcius CPU minimum

[mellow shadow]

I will tell you a case to not use for vertical GPU mounting the Lian Li A3 mATX

[gusty wagon]

The dust is mostly coming from the face inside that's right beneath the skin

[grim pasture]

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/Bz8TpK

[strange atlas]

so dead skin?

Its not possible i would have to be shedding of that was the case

[gusty wagon]

The sun goes down

[strange atlas]

so much dust

[gusty wagon]

It's like i'm

[grim pasture]

@solar moat

[strange atlas]

Is this ai bot

[steel umbra]

typhoons

[gusty wagon]

typhoons

[steel umbra]

wish they had better bearings

noisy

[storm jasper]

Can a GPU bottleneck a CPU?

[trim idol]

Good thing apple can't do that (unless they've been lying)

[random gyro]

Pretty sure they can. As for years there have been reports of apple tracking everything you do on your iPhone. But it always just slides under the radar

And still gets proclaimed most secure. Even tho there are so many non fixable back doors in the m series chips

[trim idol]

I'm guessing it's more than just the general tracking data that the UK wants, its stuff like imessage, which should be encrypted in such a fashion that the data cannot be decrypted server-side

Gotta say, I'm really impressed with just how capable a card the B580 is. Even in this Ryzen 3600

[quasi field]

Windows XP or is it

[cosmic stratus]

let temu cook!??

[quasi field]

Comes broken

[cosmic stratus]

is thay vista or win 7, I forget

[quasi field]

Nah it is windows xp but the hardware is actually windows 11

[tidal geyser]

Overpriced

[tidal geyser]

No

[trim idol]

the prices do all seem a bit high... have things just gotten more expensive in that market?

[tidal geyser]

Kinda

But he went with more pricey parts

[trim idol]

not especially though

[minor sleet]

No

[tidal geyser]

There are good reasons to get good parts but not in a budget build

[mellow shadow]

“It has a 4070”
looks inside
Radeon:

[minor sleet]

RX 580 no doubt

[trim idol]

Checking prices, those prices seem pretty decent for what is being bought, just a bit more expensive than US pricing

[kindred halo]

GPU prices here are so shit

[errant yoke]

I got a RX580, Ryzen 5 5600X 16 gbs of ram, and 1TB of storage what GPU should I upgrade to? I really only care about gaming at 1080p - 1440

[kindred halo]

You should probably upgrade your CPU too

Oh wait 11400K equal nvm

You're good in that regard, GPU though... Budget?