tech-chat-1

[arctic willow]

i have an 5500 but gave it to my sister

[tidal geyser]

I KNEW IT

[brave brook]

https://www.thermalright.com/product/peerless-assassin-120/

Intel: 115x/2011/-3/2066/1200/1700/1851
AMD:AM4/AM5

[tidal geyser]

why not just get a r7 5700X3D for 200$

its going to be the same performance as the am5 cpu you planed to go

[frail topaz]

let me check if i have it somewhere locally

[brave brook]

user manual

[oblique terrace]

$10 PC

[brave brook]

Noctua is always an option if you are willing to pay the costs

[oblique terrace]

Just bought

[tidal geyser]

i get better stuff for free

and not by a little, i7 4th gen for free

or i5 4th gen

[brave brook]

meanwhile Facebook Marketplace in my country is just dead. Maybe new rules they implemented ? No idea. Computers section has 2 (read TWO) listings for the whole country 😄

[high elm]

PA120SE is good enuf

2011-3 cpus dont run hot anyway

[arctic willow]

this is im getting the 7700x from a friend so it's pretty locked in, i only really want to know what would be a good psu if i also get the 7800xt

[brave brook]

that one doesn't have 2011-3 mount

[oblique terrace]

Did I ask or did I state? Bitch boots up

[high elm]

ohh

[brave brook]

Noctua is the safest bet ever, but it is expensive

[oblique terrace]

Came with a shit load of wires and wireless mouse

[tidal geyser]

why is he just giving it away?

[brave brook]

i mean you can use noctua from anything like AM2/775 up to 2066 & AM5 & LGA1700 😄

[tidal geyser]

anyways look at this

[arctic willow]

he upgraded and i asked for it, free so why not, right

[tidal geyser]

9950X?

[frail topaz]

nowhere locally or on aliexpress

[arctic willow]

no i meant he gave the 7700x cpu for free

[tidal geyser]

o well i need to sleep soon anyways

[brave brook]

Now china copies even Noctua colors 😄

[tidal geyser]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/rwxBh7

[arctic willow]

ohhh thanks that looks good

[forest lotus]

i think this is enough samples

16384

who needs denoising when you have 16k samples

[drowsy flame]

Throwback to the time I got 1.3k likes on a comment on an LTT Video and the LTT channel liked it. (It was the Hasan PC build)

[weary anvil]

4070 ti super and ryzen 7 9800X3D good combo for 1440p?

[clear canyon]

literally any high end gpu and a 9800x3d is good at 1440p

[weary anvil]

Is 4070 a high end I thought it was mid end

[dry urchin]

hello im trying to run 3D mark but my results keep getting invalidated because the window doesnt go full screen. Anyone know how to fix it?

[clear canyon]

a 4070ti super is low high end

a 4070 is mid range

[weary anvil]

Alr

[gleaming rose]

@tidal geyser $21? (i can offer lower)
its refurbished

[serene pumice]

Last time Windows run "Defrag"/optimization was 58 000 years ago apparently.

[weary anvil]

Ancient pc🙏

[brave brook]

do you have a SAS controller ?

[tidal geyser]

its a sus drive

na ama just use the normal word tis sas

[tidal geyser]

r620

[brave brook]

do you have the 3.5" bays ?

[gleaming rose]

or this seagate, $20

[brave brook]

i mean it could be hard to put 3.5" drives in it if your server has 2.5" bays 😄

[shut sentinel]

if my laptop has a minor issue is it enough for me to list it in the description on ebay or do i have to put something in the title too

[serene pumice]

jude means jew in Swedish

[tidal geyser]

o yeah thats true

xd

even ech0 made that joke kinda

[shut sentinel]

sim good to see you bro

thanks for the wifi usb recommendation

[hexed tapir]

https://youtu.be/A_MjCqQoLLA?feature=shared

[gleaming rose]

looks like itll work if i have a drive caddy

i can also just get some laptop sata drives

[brave brook]

that is another 20-40 euros per caddy down the drain usually

[gleaming rose]

3d printer

[tidal geyser]

2.5

2.5 SAS drives are CHEAP

[gleaming rose]

yea that

[frail topaz]

Mind if i ask a quick question, whats a good Cheap cooler for LGA2011-3?

[gleaming rose]

it supports 2.5 sas?

[tidal geyser]

nu only 2.5

[brave brook]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155453841434 actually cheap-ish

[tidal geyser]

well yes

[brave brook]

seems like dell ones are <10 euros per piece

[tidal geyser]

ok yeah the server might support 3.5

[tidal geyser]

he has a 3D printer

[gleaming rose]

i mean it should

[frail topaz]

@tidal geyser big man

[gleaming rose]

the 3.5 sas are cheaper than the 2.5 per gig

[tidal geyser]

what about that phatom spirit you were recommended?

[frail topaz]

cant find it locally

[tidal geyser]

from what i can see its only 2.5 nothing else for the server
https://www.dell.com/support/manuals/en-us/poweredge-r620/r620systemownersmanual-v1/technical-specifications?guid=guid-f2b39fd5-53b2-4104-b55f-24c2c63ae4f6&lang=en-us

[hexed tapir]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Gs4Ycf/thermalright-silver-soul-110-54-cfm-cpu-cooler-ss110-white

[frail topaz]

these are soooo good but

shipping

maybe finding one on oebay?

[tidal trail]

Screen turned black and hasn’t changed for a few minutes during driver update what should I do

[drifting sandal]

Which flagship is better in GPUs when it comes to temperature, performance and quietness.

Is it the ASUS ROG or MSI Suprim?

[tidal geyser]

cheapest

o well i sleep now

[frail topaz]

goonight

[hexed tapir]

Where do you live

[frail topaz]

...Albania

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/yuru-camp-kagamihara-nadeshiko-sleep-nadeshiko-gif-27053496

[acoustic mantle]

Anyone know if this is enough thermal paste? Not caught up with new CPUs

[teal sinew]

yah thats enough

[gleaming rose]

@tidal geyser do r710 and r620 use the same caddies?

[acoustic mantle]

Good because that’s all I have left lmao

Thank you

[teal sinew]

[hexed tapir]

Can you easily get things shipped from Romania?

[worthy sage]

This is all that I need to build a PC right?

[frail topaz]

Yeah

[hexed tapir]

https://ro.pcpartpicker.com/product/2DpzK8/thermaltake-ux-210-argb-723-cfm-cpu-cooler-cl-p079-ca12sw-a $38 usd .. is kinda expensive for what it is

[frail topaz]

well this site only ships in romania

[cosmic tundra]

I repasted my computer the other day and ran a stress test

it ran kinda hot

ran the same one today and it was significantly colder (and actually in a temp range i wanted)

my only question is how

[tidal geyser]

From a quick look it does not look like it

Also me sleep now

[worthy sage]

This is all I need for a PC right master @tidal geyser

[frail topaz]

poor sim

[worthy sage]

He's my master he will help me

[frail topaz]

hes sleeping lol

[worthy sage]

.

[cosmic tundra]

genuinely how does this happen

[frail topaz]

its currently 00:45

[worthy sage]

MASTER @tidal geyser

[frail topaz]

maybe room temp changes?

[frail topaz]

dude hes sleeping #tech-chat-1 message

leave the mans alone

[cosmic tundra]

the room was roughly 76 (f) both times

[worthy sage]

Oh well I have a pretty easy problem, is this all I need to build a PC

[hexed tapir]

Any Albanian sites? For PC hardware

[frail topaz]

let me thing

think*

[worthy sage]

Plus windows 11 obv but I can get that cheap

[minor sleet]

100 dollars is cheap?

[frail topaz]

https://shpresa.al https://pcstore.al https://planetcomputers.al https://xitoshop.com https://www.germancomputers.al/

[minor sleet]

And if you actually have too good hardware, you gotta buy pro which is like 200 dollars

[worthy sage]

I can get that for 20 bucks bro

[minor sleet]

That’s a scam then

[worthy sage]

Scd key?

[frail topaz]

Shpresa.al is the biggest, press this when visiting it

[minor sleet]

That’s the most scammy thing I’ve heard

[frail topaz]

just dont get windows

do funny work

[minor sleet]

Also you just violated server rules by violating windows terms of service

[frail topaz]

my laywer has advised me to not speak further

[worthy sage]

Nah I'm 100% getting windows dawg

[frail topaz]

total waste of money

[minor sleet]

I couldn’t afford windows so imma try out Linux

From my research, it should be as good if not better for me

[obsidian coyote]

Greetings peeps. I just got a deal for AMD 5800XT for 160 USD including taxes. Is it worth it? (i already have an AM4 Mobo).

[frail topaz]

Linux is firre

I have a triple boot on my main PC

[frail topaz]

macOS Sequoia, Debian 12 & Windows 11

[minor sleet]

To learn openGL I may try to remake the UI to be more fun to me

[worthy sage]

25 bucks for windows 11 pro

[frail topaz]

all on a GTX 1050 & i5-4570

[frail topaz]

how about 0

[worthy sage]

🧢

[frail topaz]

lol ok ur in a support chat

[worthy sage]

Proof

[frail topaz]

if u dont want recommendations you are welcome to not be here but you could upgrade something in your build

[minor sleet]

Why won’t let me ping the mods

[frail topaz]

why would you want to

[worthy sage]

I want the recommendation I never said I didnt

[minor sleet]

Guy violated rule 9

[frail topaz]

i mean if you want to buy windows go right ahead but it makes 0 sense lol, even microsoft representatives dont buy it

they use certain tools which i cant say but that are open source and use microsoft's own servers

[minor sleet]

Yeah they spend like a few grand on windows

[gusty wagon]

I'm thinking of buying a w11 pro retail key

[minor sleet]

Coulda sworn the retail was the worst

[frail topaz]

i activated my windows 10 install back in beginning of 2016 and that license has been working ever since

[gusty wagon]

The 1,000 transfers make the price worthwhile

[worthy sage]

I prefer w11 pro as it has a full operational system and it's way simpler than doing all that voodoo shit with Linux and stuff

[frail topaz]

sure go right ahead with windows im not telling you to go to linux but it doesnt make sense to buy windows

[minor sleet]

<@&750150305383186585> rule 9 violation, specifically windows gray-market key purchasing

[gusty wagon]

It's only $200, i think?

[minor sleet]

I like w11 pro because it doesn’t limit the hardware you can buy

[frail topaz]

if you're building a new pc, getting a $200 windows license is the last thing you should worry about if ur getting a AM4 R5 loll

[young crest]

Pro tip: if your GPUs io shield has rust on it, it was more than likely a mining card

[gusty wagon]

I have a 5800X3D, and i'm not sure if i'll be swapping out components anytime soon

Though what you say holds value in that situation

[frail topaz]

im not talking about you, im talking about the guy building a new pc

[frail topaz]

spending ANY amount of money on windows is a waste when you could be upgrading your ram

[gusty wagon]

It depends on the location, my country is just 70-99% humid most of the time

[frail topaz]

unless you have absolutely top of the top top top end hardware and you need to spend more than $200 to upgrade anything you are fine buying windows but even then id reccomend just saving up money and getting something else

[worthy sage]

Bruh what

[random gyro]

the new monster tastes great

[gusty wagon]

Ah, but i would still recommend it so they can tie it to their microsoft account and have that option they can leverage in the future

[random gyro]

bro overpaid i paid $2 lmao, dont share that here tho

[minor sleet]

Once I get my dream system, I will be forced to use w11 pro

[worthy sage]

💀

[frail topaz]

so close yet so far away

[random gyro]

they will be on ur shit like they dont do the same thing haha

[frail topaz]

LGA2011 coolers are fucking impossible to find in albania bro

[random gyro]

💔

[minor sleet]

Mainly from the 256gb of ram and 48 cores

[frail topaz]

Nope

[gusty wagon]

So yeah, you could tell that our futures are more important than the present where I live

Everything we do is for the future

The paranoia, the alexithymia, the bottling up and throwing shade

[frail topaz]

ouch

[minor sleet]

I warned you

[gusty wagon]

Our 10g up and 10g down internet costs less than $100 though

[frail topaz]

where do you live?

[gusty wagon]

In my own head, apparently from what i've heard

[frail topaz]

lol

[worthy sage]

When dawg

Your just being salty I don't like linux

[frail topaz]

we never said anything about you using linux i was chatting with @minor sleet about linux bro

[minor sleet]

What?

I did point out it was rule violation #tech-chat-1 message here

[rose stream]

Do not post things like these. This goes against the rules here and since this is a Discord-partnered server, you could end up in more trouble than you think.

[minor sleet]

TempleOS best Linux OS ong

[limpid dune]

dang, my 2.5Gb/s connection costs something like that, and I live within three blocks of my region's t1

[hexed tapir]

What cpu are we cooling, AliExpress might be our answer

[frail topaz]

E5-2680V4

14c/28t 3.5ghz turbo

[worthy sage]

Sry

[boreal vine]

Certified am4 moment

[gusty wagon]

That connection is ISP to house though, and the transfer speed between internal devices are still limited by the switching and routing speeds.

[hexed tapir]

Shit that's a hot 120w chip

[frail topaz]

is it ever toasty, even just to get to bios it was burning the skin on my fingert

because i had NO COOLER

[limpid dune]

e5-2680? nice one 😎

[frail topaz]

does this mean you'll not come at my door anymore i see the CIA all the time

[limpid dune]

I'm gonna show up at your door because I want to check out your E5-2680v4

[frail topaz]

ok this sites pricing is just al ittle bit off becuase this in dollars would be 14000 dollars

[frail topaz]

sure

[rose stream]

Wait, which cooler is this one? Hard to tell from the bottom.

[hexed tapir]

So I assume waiting 60-90 days won't do...

[frail topaz]

likely

[boreal vine]

secret

[rose stream]

[frail topaz]

i mean i found a freezer 36 for $40 but... no 2011-3 FUCK

[south arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-dance-dance-pepe-dancing-pepe-pepe-dancing-gif-5386336971666611655

[hexed tapir]

All the AliExpress coolers ship there march 17th

[frail topaz]

i mean i found a pure rock 2 but 60 bucks for a cooler for a project where the board, cpu, ram costed 80$

[latent gull]

NHD15

[frail topaz]

im a pro at alixpress and thats not a correct estimate

based on my (136) purchases on there the estimate is 1.78 months off

[frail topaz]

shits compatible with anything BUT 2011-3

[hexed tapir]

What about temu

[frail topaz]

never shopped there

[oblique terrace]

I overclocked my CRT to run 4K just for this

[hexed tapir]

I cant set my location to Albania so no clue on the shipping but they have a Chinese dual tower cooler for $20

[frail topaz]

send link ill check

[frail topaz]

also hold on 1 minute i nede to find out where this coil whine is coming from

[oblique terrace]

Coil Whine 😆

[stray prawn]

Can I ask about pc builds here? I currently have a build on pcpartpicker but dont know much about pcs to determine if its good or nah.. (Price is not an issue, so dont have to find cheaper alternatives, if it means worse quality).

[frail topaz]

of course

[frail topaz]

found it

[oblique terrace]

Y'all don't know a whine until you hear 23000k

[stray prawn]

https://no.pcpartpicker.com/list/mV6H8Q

[frail topaz]

The cooler is a bit overkill

[latent gull]

Have they changed this for anyone else? It used to infinitely load videos from my sub feed that got progressively older but now it just shows this after a few

[stray prawn]

wym overkill

[frail topaz]

Get a RM1000X if you can

[frail topaz]

as in too little price 2 performance

but if you have no budget then sure go for it

also you can change the gpu if you want just pure perforamnce, 7900XTX is an absolute beast but is there anything like the 4090/5090 available?

[stray prawn]

u mean too pricey for the perfomance?

[frail topaz]

yes

[stray prawn]

whats the difference with the rme and rmx

[frail topaz]

theyre both very good, but the RMX is usually the more premium offering of Corsair

[thin oriole]

does anyone how to fix No internet, secured issue on PC
i have not been able to connect to wifi from past 5 days. i have to reset drivers enable / disable wifi 5-6 times and then it might connect. i watched a bunch of tutorials on youtube, it works but then not a permanant fix. Can some please let me know if there is permanent fix. thank you

[frail topaz]

Better caps usually is the main bit

[frail topaz]

Maybe your wifi router?

[thin oriole]

nope my phone connects fine

[frail topaz]

also that specific 7900XTX you have chosen is WAYYYY too expensive for what ur gettting

[thin oriole]

laptop connects fine too

Just my PC

[frail topaz]

converting to USD its wild

should be fine

[stray prawn]

what about the xfx merc xtx

[frail topaz]

relatively speaking any of them are fine

[stray prawn]

why a 4090/5090

[frail topaz]

they usually have pure perforamnce better

[hexed tapir]

https://www.temu.com/-cpu-cooler-cooling-fan--pwm-rgb--pipes-cooler-for--lga-1155-1150-755-1151-1156-115x-2011-2011-3-1700-1200-x79-x99-fm1-fm2-amd-am5-am3-am4-processor-cooler-cpu-cooling-fan-radiator--120-volume-50-32cfm-heatsink-g-601099521210429.html

[hexed tapir]

The link works for me

[frail topaz]

maybe check on aliexpress?

[hexed tapir]

I already did the shipping said March 17th or 60-90days

[frail topaz]

that is fake! estimate is wrong

[arctic willow]

Hey guys wanted to know if this a decent build, i have most of the parts, just want to make sure that the PSU and ram are good. I have a asus prime ap201 case and will get a 7800xt in a few months. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/kxcpmC

[hexed tapir]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005218643738.html no clue on how well it performs

[worthy sage]

if you have the extra moneyhttps://www.amazon.com/dp/B09P4M4C7K/?coliid=I1S5NCWO1RFN5&colid=1O86GWAGI0C78&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it&th=1

[oblique terrace]

Ubisoft Bitches 🤙

[worthy sage]

dawg

💀

https://tenor.com/view/skull-issues-gif-13031152103567454559

[frail topaz]

was this for me?

[worthy sage]

yes

[frail topaz]

bro the SE doesnt even support 2011-3

[worthy sage]

oh i didnt see that

sry

[frail topaz]

i also saw this, any other one?

[oblique terrace]

Watchdogs, Assassin's Creed, Far Cry. Same company that made these games made this camera

[hexed tapir]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004156832024.html very good well known one but expensive

[gritty grove]

So I bought a phone that has 5g capability, but right now I'm only getting LTE. I may have been scammed.

[frail topaz]

the cooler price is fine but 60 bucks shipping

[frail topaz]

what phone

[rapid gazelle]

guys is this a decent build?

i feel like the cpu bottles necks

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ns8Ngn

[frail topaz]

Hush and send partlist

[frail topaz]

you REALLY dont need that powerful of a ssd

[gritty grove]

Google Pixel 9 pro

[rapid gazelle]

so change?

[frail topaz]

no u didnt lol, just the area ur in might not have 5g

[frail topaz]

MP44L from teamgroup

[rapid gazelle]

mk

[frail topaz]

also an air cooler is more than enough for that cpu

[rapid gazelle]

i might change cpu then

cuz i want the aio

[hexed tapir]

Not sure on this cooler but jonsbo made a decent cooler before https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007406769598.html https://youtu.be/RIX1KWIfmi8?feature=shared

[gritty grove]

Okay But something weird just happened. I turned off and on battery saver, and it gave me 5G UC. I don't know what the UC means, but I hope it means Ultra connection.

[frail topaz]

you can keep the AIO, just that its overkill

[frail topaz]

Ultra capacity

[rapid gazelle]

is the cpu bottle neck tho?

[frail topaz]

No its fine

[south arrow]

I hope you all had a good day 🍀 🐛

[violet zealot]

Guys will the Rog strix B550-F ii fit inside the Montech Xr

[gritty grove]

Would it basically be the same thing as a hypothetical thing called ultra connection?

[rapid gazelle]

i should find a bench mark vid on that combo bc thats the deal breaker for me lol

[hexed tapir]

Not sure on 2011 (3)

[frail topaz]

should be the asme

[frail topaz]

so basically the same

@hexed tapir

[rigid fjord]

yes

[hexed tapir]

For 120watt CPU I would get a dual tower or a fat single tower

[frail topaz]

why are coolers so hard to find, did you check anything on the albanian websites

[hexed tapir]

I gave up on those sites because Google translate page can only take me so far on those shitty sites🤣

[frail topaz]

send screenshots ill translate for you

[oblique terrace]

https://youtu.be/EUFaEArRcag?si=BwFUEId6IYvIIC1d

[stray prawn]

its 1000 usd

not 2k

[oblique terrace]

Fuck Best Buy

[wispy thunder]

skill issue

[oblique terrace]

I mean they sell shit and even shittier money crap prices and yet people still support them

[wispy thunder]

They sell whatever a company sells - the prices are fine and if you found a better price they will price match

in fact here in Canada it's the cheapest place to get a 9800x3d

[oblique terrace]

Circuit City and Radio Shack were much better

And fuck Walmart too

[crystal patio]

hey guys i have quick question

[wispy thunder]

Circuit City yea sure buddy

Radio Shack maybe for hobby stuff but it's a completely different store

and it's not like they're around anymore

[oblique terrace]

They sold monitors and computers

In house brand too

[wispy thunder]

okay and?

Bestbuy does too - it's called insignia

[minor sleet]

Nah

[oblique terrace]

Fuck Warship

[south arrow]

[oblique terrace]

Best Buy Suck

[wispy thunder]

lmao get warshipped

[minor sleet]

Walmart did too, it’s called ONN/op

[wispy thunder]

imagine being so mad at everything

[crystal patio]

i currently own a rx 5500xt 4gb vram and a good price on a 1660 super 6gb has shown up right infront of me but it only has 1 fan

is that worth upgrading to?

[wispy thunder]

buy smth you'll actually keep - rather than something you'll know you'll replace

[oblique terrace]

I build computers out of Ewaste that kick the shit out of anything you can buy at Walmart

[wispy thunder]

Show a build - yapping gets you nowhere

[crystal patio]

my current gpu is fine for everything i need but the vram lets me down a bit and by upgrading to this i was thinking it might boost my performance

[wispy thunder]

if your current GPU is fine, then don't replace it

[oblique terrace]

Currently Playing battlefield 1 on a Dell Optiplex 745

20 year old computer

[wispy thunder]

lol 12 year old game

an 8 year old computer could play a modern game too

[stray prawn]

https://no.pcpartpicker.com/list/mV6H8Q what do u think about this nexgen, and dont convert to usd dollars cause it shows wrong pricing, u have to manually look up the price urself if u want to see real price

[wispy thunder]

2016 is what, skylake? 6700k + a 1080 easily still plays modern games at low settings

[oblique terrace]

I can't even run it on Lenovo Idea 3

[wispy thunder]

your fault for buying an ideapad 3

garbage laptop

[oblique terrace]

It was a free laptop because the person who bought it threw it away

[wispy thunder]

ah that's what you meant by you like ewaste

[oblique terrace]

My Acer Aspire Es-711 can run it flawlessly and it was manufactured in 2016

[stray prawn]

nexgen not nextgen mb

[wispy thunder]

I've got a toshiba from 2008 with thinner bezels cause DAYUM they Thicc

[oblique terrace]

I had an i9-13900k and sold it because it refused to do what I wanted

[wintry plinth]

@wispy thunderYou mind taking a look at a pc build?

[wispy thunder]

skill issue

[wispy thunder]

go for iuut

[oblique terrace]

Had better luck with dual Xeon X5650 for a total of 24threads

[wintry plinth]

Here you go @wispy thunder

[wispy thunder]

13900k has 32, your point?

[oblique terrace]

It ran everything faster than the i9

With no crashing

Or overheating

Or spontaneously dying

[wispy thunder]

overpriced AIO, you could probably get cheaper ram (Team T-Force or T-Create) that perform as good or better, 1000W is overkill, 850 will be good

[wispy thunder]

sure buddy. Tell yourself that

[oblique terrace]

More power usage but more reliable

[wispy thunder]

you're stuck in the past and it's sad.

[oblique terrace]

I'm sorry I don't spend thousands of dollars on bullshit that will end up in the dump in 2 years

[wintry plinth]

If an overkill pc/price is not a problem for us, would this build be good then?

[frail topaz]

i9 is more of a consumer platform, id say xeon is more for server use/workstation/HEDT

so i highly doubt the xeon outperformed the i9 in day to day

[oblique terrace]

And that's what I was trying to build was a reliable server

But I could run games

[wispy thunder]

well ofc, you dragged a pc out of the dump from 12 years ago what's your point

[frail topaz]

Well then id say the Xeon is a better choice no? still depends what i9

[oblique terrace]

My shit still works and doesn't need to be repaired constantly

[frail topaz]

Xeon X5650 is westmere... grandpa cpu

[wispy thunder]

Oh then I honestly wouldn't get XTX - CUDA is huge

[wispy thunder]

5650 vs 13900k

he's like oh 24 threads and I'm like lol 13900k has 32

[frail topaz]

bruh

[wispy thunder]

so does mine?

[stray prawn]

wym cuda?:

[wintry plinth]

Could you explain what this means?

[oblique terrace]

Still I pay almost nothing to do the same shit you PCs do

[frail topaz]

Cuda is Nvidia technology, used by many games and apps

[wispy thunder]

You couldn't render a 1000 part model as fast as I can

[frail topaz]

"Compute Unified Device Architecture"

[stray prawn]

whats wring with huge cuda

[frail topaz]

parallel computing platform

[oblique terrace]

Not about speed as long as the job gets done

[wispy thunder]

basically some compute applications can be done by the GPU - and because the GPU has thousands of cuda cores (tiny multipurpose cores) they can still do things faster than a general purpose core likke a CPU can do

[wispy thunder]

absolutely about speed - time is money

[oblique terrace]

5 seconds is enough to take a piss and come back

[minor sleet]

So I CAN run an OS only on the gpu

[wispy thunder]

I'm not sitting around waiting for a solidworks model to load for 30 minutes

[stray prawn]

so why shouldnt we get xtx? cause its overkill?

[wispy thunder]

XTX is great for games, but the compute side of things is dominated by nvidia

[wispy thunder]

you can, but generally shouldn't

[oblique terrace]

When y'all charge so much to sit around and do nothing while shit renders anyway then I guess

[wispy thunder]

GPU cores are missing basically all of the instruction sets most OSes are written for

[minor sleet]

Oh just you wait

[wispy thunder]

it's not even rendering - it's loading

I'm not waiting half an hour to load a model

[minor sleet]

I have enough experience to just build my own OS

[oblique terrace]

Still can't deny that the majority of computer work is sitting on your ass while waiting for shit to boot

[wispy thunder]

not really

we don't live in 1996 it's not the same anymore

[oblique terrace]

Show me otherwise

[gusty forge]

hello

[minor sleet]

Even with hard drive tbh, it’s quite fast

[oblique terrace]

File transfer, rendering, Cloning, file recovery. All involve sitting on your ass doing nothing

[wispy thunder]

fym show you otherwise? The work I do is designs that I can't share?

[gusty forge]

does anybody know how to do this?

[wispy thunder]

I'll put it this way: there's a lot of drawing lines

[stray prawn]

so is the build good tho, price doesnt matter at all, we want overkill, for games etc

[wispy thunder]

for games it's good, for anything else I'd get Nvidia

[oblique terrace]

I worked in computers since 2011 i know how it goes because unless you are actively building you are waiting

[frail topaz]

ur likely gonna wanna go Nvidia then

[wispy thunder]

actually if you want raytracing go Nvidia too

[stray prawn]

what is everything else?

[wintry plinth]

Is there a HUGE difference?

[wispy thunder]

I've been building for longer now go get a job and touch grass lmao

[wispy thunder]

for raytracing? Absolutely.

[wintry plinth]

For general other uses

Since you said "for anything else I'd get Nvidia"

[wispy thunder]

anything that isn't gaming but uses GPU, Nvidia is better at

[frail topaz]

even at gaming in some circumstances nvidia is better

so for a safe option we'd say go nvidia

[wintry plinth]

Which Nvidia gpu would you recommend us then? We want something within the same price range as the Radeon one which is about 1k usd

[frail topaz]

ouuff..h 4080super?

if you CAN get the 4090

[young crest]

Vega

[wintry plinth]

?

[coarse grotto]

mmm a certain swedish website that was taken down - and its founders locked up after a long and unfair trial,,,- 's .org official domain seems to be back up alive and kicking? anybody idea what changed (the past few years it was taken down by the fbi, mirrors existed and they were blocked by isp's allot of the time , then many proxies to those mirrors existed and the mallware and adds that exist with sites like that allong with them) but if you serve to the sites actual domain now , you get the clean site again , no adds eg ... you know what site im talking about right, id post the url but thats probably againt the rules , and not what im after , i kind of am curious what if anything ...happened that the site is back and not even blocked or taken down by the fbi or other gov orgs :), and is the site managed again by the same trio (Anakata and co)

[frail topaz]

Sure

[young crest]

Yappinator

[coarse grotto]

? no something bay

[frail topaz]

there can be other websites

[frail topaz]

Sailing the bays

[thin oriole]

anyone got a clue please ill really appreciate itXD

[stray prawn]

did u update ur drivers

[coarse grotto]

unfortunatly the legal section of the site is missing (perhaps for the better ), wich was an awesome read and comic releaf

[thin oriole]

yes

drivers are upto date

re installed them too

and reset

[wintry plinth]

The 4090, and 4080 super are not available for me. Do you have other recommendations?

[frail topaz]

id tell you for 50 series. but i dont think thats gonna happen but just in case try finding a 5080

which i know you wont, so other recommendations...

I mean, theres really not much? 4080super, 4090, 5080

[limber nacelle]

4070ti super :^)

[coarse grotto]

for the wifi issue , its possible that windows update updates the driver to an older version , or a more generic version. if you can istall the driver provided by the chipset manufacturor (by that i mean if you have an tp-link card, with an intel ax210 chip, go get and install the ax210 driver from intel directly)

[frail topaz]

Eh not as much perf as the 4080s

we're talking pure perforamnce

[limber nacelle]

well I'd buy that if the 4080/4080s/4090/50 series wasn't available

for me

[frail topaz]

i mean its the only sensible option left, but you might as well get the 7900xtx

[limber nacelle]

meh

depends on what you do

id much rather have a 4070ti super

[frail topaz]

Whyso

[wintry plinth]

Yeah no, not available. There are 5k people looking at it.. and I think its gonna take forever to get a hold of it

[somber mason]

[limber nacelle]

because amd has awful software support for the DCCs I use

and mediocre performance at best

[frail topaz]

I thought so, if you really want nvidia go with the 4070ti super which should be widely available, or else go with the 7900xtx

[wintry plinth]

I mean if theres nothing faulty with the pc build then I'd prefer to stick with what we have

[frail topaz]

Sure then

[somber mason]

I need help😭

[oblique terrace]

I was in the Fucking military I touch grass alot more than you do and get paid to do it

[somber mason]

Does anyone want to torture themselves and probably be unable to find a solution?

[wintry plinth]

yappinator

[coarse grotto]

is amd really competing in the high end desktop gpu maket? dont really think so ,... they just meke them for the nvidia haters to buy anything but they arent price competitive and defenetly not performance competitive. they even stopped innovating on them and just copy nvidia features of the last generation .... they are focussing on mobile and embedded systems /platform graphics these days (ps,xbox,steam deck ...)

[frail topaz]

Lets hear it

Ohhkakaayynow..

[random gyro]

anyone elses fortnite been stuttering when turning for about the last month

[frail topaz]

They no yeah they pulled out, mostly midrange

[somber mason]

#1336510926714703915

[oblique terrace]

Shouldn't have started shit they couldn't finish

[jaunty apex]

Idk I cant play Fortnite

[minor sleet]

Lmao

[frail topaz]

Try resetting windows, fresh start.

[minor sleet]

Windows tried to write to read only crap

[frail topaz]

Keep in mind this WILL. remove ANYTHING you have

[frail topaz]

Dumb windows moment

[rose stream]

Honestly, Intel kinda does too. Then again, a lot of the entrants into the graphics market, be it on the desktop side or the mobile side have just gotten that way when going up against the ones who set the standards (in this case Nvidia and Imagination).

[somber mason]

I literally can't. I have 5 Mbps Internet and over 4 tbs of data I need.

[frail topaz]

FUCKING OUCH

[minor sleet]

Linux would neverrrr

[coarse grotto]

or use an fresh downloaded ISO and DISM to fix the install, is similar to a reset but you get to keep everything that is installed , just searches for any corruption to the image and updates the pieces that are with the correct version of the ISO

[rose stream]

They're all just copying each other to keep up and use existing standards because if they don't, then history will repeat itself with them being the next victims of some mistake that gets them left behind.

[somber mason]

How do I tell if my boot drive is dying?

[frail topaz]

speaking of nvidia, people get mad that they dont do generational improvements, but i really think that they have no competition so they dont have anything to invent more because the competition is nowhere to be found

[frail topaz]

Crystaldiskinfo

[minor sleet]

The void gets hungry too bro

[somber mason]

It says 96% health, but like I don't trust that. It seems like everything on that drive is corrupting

[minor sleet]

Feed it “rm -rf /* --no_preserve_root” every once in awhile

[somber mason]

Including my windows install

[rose stream]

Yeah, that and because they did so much already and command a lead in multiple places at once, it's not like there's anything else the others can think of to innovate around it, especially whenever it comes to developers wanting to take advantage of anything AMD, Intel, Qualcomm, or anyone else has to offer really.

[wintry plinth]

what did he say lol

[red badge]

Mh wilds benchmark is out, anyone else try it yet?

[frail topaz]

Nvidia became the giant they did because of their super early investment in AI

[red badge]

7600x + 6800 xt overclocked no frame gen:

3440x1440 ultra = 69.89 fps

3440x1440 high = 81.27 fps

2560x1440 ultra = 79.45 fps

[frail topaz]

Just look at tihis

[rose stream]

It's the same issue brought up by the processor design engineers a while ago here on the server: they've come up with solutions for making stuff far faster and more efficient, but it doesn't mean anyone wants to use them or doesn't think they're worth it.

Especially if the predominate majority are mostly people who strongly stick to one particular way of working and won't do anything else outside of that for any reason they don't think they can accomplish without having to.

[frail topaz]

There are just giants that noone can compete with, nvidia amd and intel are the big 3, in CPUS other chineese brands have tried and failed dramatically to make a new cpu, because as bad as intel might be they are one of the biggest giants in tech ever

[frail topaz]

Exaxctly yeah

[coarse grotto]

you know you can do :```sh
dd if=/dev/zero bs=10G status=progress of=/dev/null

[rose stream]

A point those two engineers made of various types of programmers too.

[frail topaz]

But like people argue that nvidia doesnt make generational leaps anymore like they used to, nvidia has always been a giant in graphics cards but theres a limit to how much transistors and physicsal power they can shove into something, but this year was a bit dissapointing but people make it out to be a little worse than it actually i

[rose stream]

Well it's moreso that every possible competitor in the past competed with Intel, even their own big daddy blue IBM, and in the end everyone ended up choosing x86 over all other options because it was good enough and got the right amount of support to get those programmers'/devs' software in front of a lot of people.

[frail topaz]

it wasnt just good enough it was amazing at the time, just like arm is good but it needs to get adopted

[rose stream]

And now it's just because they have a duopoly with AMD, so as much that even Zhaoxin, the only other x86 competitor even now, can't claim to hold a candle to.

[frail topaz]

AMD is crushing intel in terms of CPU manufacturing rn

[coarse grotto]

i think they ran into maximum size of the die they can create, aswell as already making it on the smalles nodesize so , improving is not that easy anymore either so solutions have to be gotten from more chips on a single card , wich is not feasable since they cant even get enough to put 1 chip on a card ,... so untill that gets fixed not even worht thingking of ways to leverage the 1+1=3 principle to coordinate multiple chip gpu design

[frail topaz]

but intel is in the nr 2 VERYYYYYY comfortably

[coarse grotto]

*on desktop

[frail topaz]

Tell this to others

[frail topaz]

Where are they on laptop, 4?

[rose stream]

It's not like the door isn't open for new competition really, it's just... Too late to be joining onto the field when the others are already really built up so far to the point that they can't keep up.

[coarse grotto]

on mobile they are : not to be found

[frail topaz]

Id say

1. AMD
2. Apple
3. Qualcomm
4. Intel

[rose stream]

Even if Nvidia wasn't blocked from having access to a license to design x86 cpus of their own, they too probably would've struggled to keep up themselves.

[jaunty apex]

I almost wonder if this can kill your drive or if its literally just consuming clocks

[frail topaz]

Yeah thats not their territory, they should stick to GPUS

[coarse grotto]

yet intel would have been my pick until they fired their last not trained in marketing ceo

[rose stream]

They were even using tech similar to Transmeta for the Denver arch and we know what happened to the latter.

[frail topaz]

Intel has fallen off hard

and the b580 is their only hope

[rose stream]

Transmeta failed hard and then Intel absorbed them, ending them altogether.

[frail topaz]

Really?

[rose stream]

Granted, the Crusoes were only made to be good for just one thing, which was efficiency.

[coarse grotto]

i always wonderd , when intell had troubles with their 10 nano meter node ,... right why was that? i know the technology is hard and yadayada , and the benefits of havving your own foundary eg , but its not like the foundaries AMD was using came up with the technology either. so was intel trying to do the full vertical integration thing? and develop the technology themselfs, and why didnt they just buy the 10nm machinery from ASML like any other foundary does ?

[frail topaz]

They tried to be special

[coarse grotto]

no drive is accessed , so your getting the cpu to generate zeroes store them in memory and discard them 🙂

[rose stream]

Yeah. I looked into the arch myself and lot of Denver's design functions similar to how the Crusoe's arch was made to work, even if they couldn't do anything exact.

[empty quartz]

I got a new keyboard, which of these 2 sounds better

[gleaming rose]

i wish tech still had personality

[jaunty apex]

Ok I figured as much, I love that meme

[coarse grotto]

*single core so wont even bog down a multicore system 😄

[rose stream]

Because the previous leadership didn't think they needed it, especially because the latest manufacturing tech for the newest process was obscenely expensive.

And this was back when AMD was still on FX.

Like, Intel's foundaries had been at this, trying to get their crap together with their 10 nm. for the longest while.

It's why they kept it only for mobile and some of their server chips and not for their desktop ones.

[frail topaz]

i9-10980XE peak intel

[rose stream]

14 nm. was the only node they had that didn't have yield issues like their 10 nm., yet they didn't want to spend a ton to actually improve that yield in some way.

[coarse grotto]

so intel was on 14nm and working on 10nm, then ASML releases machinery to do 10nm , and itel goes , mm were almost there, after a wile they still arent, and they dont go , maybe as a fall back or to test designs maybe we ougth to buy one of them 10nm machienes? , then asml does the 7nm thing and , itel goes well were almost ready with 10nm, i mean by that time it was clear that they really could benefit form the power reduction of a smaller nodesize , so i dont think its as clear cut as the management not thinking they needed it...

[rose stream]

And since AMD was no real threat then and ARM chips had yet to really penetrate their turf, they just... Sat on it for as long as they could, making small improvements wherever.

[coarse grotto]

i run i9 9900K also not to bad 😄

[frail topaz]

i run the peakest intel ever, best chip ever made by intel... ||i5-4570||

[limber nacelle]

wait till nova lake

[rose stream]

Now, I don't even know if the have actually figured out their 10 nm. process yet and they still want to do their own equivalent of 7 and 5 too.

[limber nacelle]

rumors are wild

[frail topaz]

Eh

they fucked up the naming scheme

[limber nacelle]

ok but 2x 8p16e sounds good don't it

[coarse grotto]

well if you disable mitigations, and use the og firmware that is else tis a slow ass thing, ... that used to be fast

[limber nacelle]

rahhhhh I love intel

[teal sinew]

i do love big monolithic chips but the 13900K/14900K wrecks the 10980xe in every relevant metric

[frail topaz]

also nova is gonna come in 2026

[rose stream]

The catch? They might have to do what AMD did and let go of their foundry business in order to save themselves a substantial chunk or so.

[frail topaz]

of course but for its time it was nice

And.. come on. EXTREME EDITION sounds badass

[frail topaz]

still, 2026

we'll see what happens till then

[coarse grotto]

reminds em of the Engeneering Samples/Editions from back when

[teal sinew]

i dont think thatll happen

[rose stream]

Personally, I'd rather they don't.

[coarse grotto]

simpler would just be buy the damn machine from asml ,... and keep their foundry inhouse ..

[teal sinew]

thats what theyre doing yeah

[rose stream]

I believe they did already.

They're just figuring things out right now.

[teal sinew]

they bought ASML's latest high-na EUV machines before anyone else and theyve been using them to make their future 14A process node

[rose stream]

They were evaluated recently by Broadcom, though they weren't up to their satisfaction on quality, so they probably still need to work things out.

[teal sinew]

you need to read into the context

[coarse grotto]

ah 🙂 nice , maybe i can keep using this cpu till they straighten things out then ... 🙂

[teal sinew]

broadcomm was asking them to make absolutely massive monolithic chips so yes the yields weren't great

that's what happens when you print 700mm+ chips on bleeding edge nodes

[frail topaz]

Broadcom fucked up vmware

A little

[rose stream]

... Okay, I'll admit I missed THAT part of the details.

[teal sinew]

broadcomm chips r fuckin huge

[rose stream]

The flipping massive die part specifically.

[limber nacelle]

yields were what, 10%?

[coarse grotto]

the vmware devs saved vmware 🙂 right before broadcom boutght it , so vmware workstation pro is 100% free since then

[frail topaz]

didnt broadcomm make the chip for the first galaxy S phone?

[rose stream]

Ya know, I kinda expected Broadcom to be more tame than this with their die sizes.

[teal sinew]

i mean the stuff they make is badass

media websites just took that 10% number and ran with it for clicks without understanding what it meant

[coarse grotto]

broadcom reminds me of the era you had to use ndiswrapper driver to use there chips on linux because they refused to even acknowledge linux existed

[teal sinew]

"intel bad!!!!!!"
clicks ⬆️

panther lake laptop processors and clearwater forest xeons both use the 18A process and are launching later this year

as was shown in the roadmap as far back as 2021

[coarse grotto]

first intel cpu i got : 8088 🙂

[frail topaz]

First intel cpu i got was a pentium 2

[coarse grotto]

(litle brother of the 8086)

[frail topaz]

Then the spaghetti cooker pentium 4

[teal sinew]

no delay as of yet

[rose stream]

I guess it's just that one series of SoCs they produce for set-tops, infotainment, and sbcs like the RPis that I'm just used to seeing out of them.

[teal sinew]

PTL and CWF are still scheduled to launch in 2H 2025

[rose stream]

That's the kind of stuff I've seen when looking at their solutions half the time. Anything literally bigger I just never saw yet.

[frail topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/intel-intel-xeon-intel-inside-xeon-gif-16140058993699148822

[minor sleet]

I wanna see

[teal sinew]

this chip is used in their 64-port 800GbE network switch

[frail topaz]

i ihave a bcm94352z

[rose stream]

Hold up, how big is that thing exactly?

[teal sinew]

total switching capacity of 51.2Terabit/second

their top end enterprise stuff is really nuts

[teal sinew]

i cant find a number but it looks similar to a top end gpu die like TU102/GB202 so maybe 700-800mm squared

which is about as large as any fab can print

[frail topaz]

im pretty sure mikrotik also uses their stuff no?

[rose stream]

[south arrow]

[coarse grotto]

judging by the size of the smd components around it thats not 4*4 cm

[teal sinew]

i wish i could find specific measurements

[coarse grotto]

yeah its great how the internet these days works , cant find anything other then marketing articles that do not disclose anything , and if the company has datasheets availeble the free ones are marketing material and the real ones are paywalled

[teal sinew]

i think this is the best we can get

if some nerd wants to figure it out by using the penny as scale

[limpid dune]

it's just stupid for Intel to fund their own huge R&D department designing semiconductor nodes, meanwhile AMD is effectively piggybacking off of Nvidia and Apple, because those two are the ones that really fund TSMC

[odd marsh]

Nah bro it is almost 9:30 it is bedtime

[teal sinew]

but you can see it's definitely a big chip

so intel only producing 10% of their chips defect free with a bleeding edge node is not surprising

[coarse grotto]

thats 2*3.5 or so i think 🙂 coin ist mamiliar to me 😦

yeah could be around 700mm2

[limpid dune]

working with TSMC also gives AMD the benefit that they can quickly scale up/down by simply purchasing more fab time, while Intel needs to construct entire literal factories years ahead

[teal sinew]

inhouse fab is a huge advantage if their nodes are competitive or even better

[limpid dune]

(mind you, not THAT quickly, but definitely quicker than Intel)

[teal sinew]

it's what propelled intel to having 90% marketshare and intel being what everyone knows

18A is supposedly very good and 14A is another big jump ahead so inshallah the company is fine

[left palm]

5090D at the top?

[teal sinew]

i hope they get back to making their cpus all inhouse instead of outsourcing to TSMC

[coarse grotto]

they dont even have to be that competitive if they can guaranty 5 9's or more in stabillity

[odd marsh]

i got about 650mm

[teal sinew]

yeah idk why they decided to juice power and risk instability issues with raptorlake just because amd got a small performance lead

"intel just works" was the belief that most people had

they couldve just put out a couple generations of slightly slower processors and their mindshare wouldnt have tanked

[coarse grotto]

like that intel , novel netware ftp server , that got some insane stabillity in order to run for what was it 30years with no reboot 🙂

[limpid dune]

I mean, it was different in the 80s and 90s when Intel's fabs were ahead of everyone else's. Hell, look at MOS, who were churning out silicon for 1/10th Intel's prices in the 70s, which gave them more money to invest in better nodes, which gave them even more money...

but nowadays it's going the other way - poor nodes mean they lose money, which takes money away from R&D, which makes poorer nodes and even less money

[coarse grotto]

especiallly when the competition has to do no R&D for the hardware side of thing, and the Foundry they use has to do no R&D into the Technology side of things either ...

[limpid dune]

and what's the problem with that? TSMC takes a small slice of the pie, but better chips mean more sales. Think of it like this: effectively, every single TSMC client is pooling their money (through TSMC) to make the best possible node for all.

Nvidia is out here selling tens of thousands of blackwell accelerators with 750mm^2 of critical area... it's INSANE the amount of money they're making. Remember that AMD dwarfs Intel in market value right now, let alone Apple

[coarse grotto]

(okay wasnt 30years but 16years of uptime , wich is still pretty good i think :D)

[limpid dune]

genuinely pretty impressive that there are ZERO kernel memory leaks

[coarse grotto]

and multiple images exist of netware servers getting insane uptimes like that, and arstechica apparently visited that one to verify

[left palm]

6030 days

unc

[coarse grotto]

yeah especiallly because they went and verified that no trickery happened with the system clock eg 🙂

[fallen sky]

Is there a way to access my old android with a computer (it’s an android + windows pc so ofc there’s a way)

[formal sonnet]

https://support.google.com/android/answer/9064445?hl=en

[fallen sky]

Word

Thx gang

[coarse grotto]

a friend of mine had a pentium 133mhz server at some point , they build a bigger house adjacent to the one they lived in, few years later, the quote : i lost my server , i know its still working as i can ping it and it responds, but i dont know where the damn thing is ... was kind of funny, turned out it was in the old houses boilerroom and building material left overs got stacked on top of it 🙂 took him a few weaks to eventually find it 😄

[limpid dune]

this server was for the entire release, life, and ending of CS:GO

that machine was booted up during the Bush administration

[coarse grotto]

dunno think it was booted earlier as the picture isnt that current , neither is novel netware

okay latest releas ofnovel netware is 15years ago so could be possible

back when i was little we had some novell 2000 network cards and even they were acient back then 😄
edit : Novel NE2000 -> ISA card 😄

[fallen sky]

Ain’t no recovery for this chat 😭🙏

[fallen sky]

Forgot to mention the state it’s in

[formal sonnet]

Good luck. Modern android phones require the user to unlock them and sometimes even enable USB debugging before they will talk to a computer. It's a security feature.

[fallen sky]

I wouldn’t say this is modern

[swift moss]

Ooh nice

[fallen sky]

2016?

[formal sonnet]

Relative to how long smartphones have been around, it's modern enough.

[fallen sky]

Unless I get it fixed for like $100

It’s cooked

[swift moss]

There's always ways

Fixed for like 100 bucks is a tough ask

[fallen sky]

😭

I should sell my 11 with TikTok on it

For like 1k

[swift moss]

Do you need the pics on that phone?

[fallen sky]

Na

I broke it because of clash royale 4 years ago

Understandable crashout

[limpid dune]

might make an android VM so that I can run stupid idle games

[swift moss]

;-;

[swift moss]

Says the scientist 😭😭😭 *with a job and family

Very fun project though

I need to wisen up and finally get a rockchip or allwinner to write my own Linux for it

[limpid dune]

templeos rockchip

[swift moss]

Lol

Android tv already runs on allwinners

I'm debating between 3308 and aw h618

[true drift]

why does microsoft windows have to suck so bad 😭

i mean i dont use it, but i wish i could

[limber nacelle]

how do you know if u dont even use it

[limpid dune]

...? pretty much any device in the world can be hack-windows'ed. Hackindows. or Hackelsoft?

[supple gull]

Hi, I have a case with 3 intake fans on the front and 1 exhaust on the back. I have 2 fans that I’m gonna add to the top of the case, should they be intake or exhaust? I heard positive pressure is good so intake, but since the GPU pulls air from below I thought maybe exhaust could he better.

[random gyro]

good lord you sound so dumb

[hollow creek]

yeah i would highly recommend getting an external dac

[random gyro]

top fans exhaust

[true drift]

i meant i just cannot stand using it, and my machine doesn't support 11 anyways

[random gyro]

you dont get to have an opinion on it then

[frail delta]

Why do you want to use it if you don’t like it?

I don’t get it

[true drift]

because i dont want to use linux or macos

i just want the OS i always grew up with

[frail delta]

“Always grew up with” makes no sense. Did you grow up many times?

[true drift]

.

i just feel like there is no good operating system today

[random gyro]

w11 is good wtf are u on about

[plain cypress]

Windows 11 is fine

Windows 10 is fine

Microsoft sucks

[formal sonnet]

The best <thing> is the <thing> that let's you Get [the] Shit Done™ that you need to do. This applies to OS's.

[true drift]

i have it on a vm

[cunning cloud]

Are moca adapters good for ethernet?

[frail delta]

Oh LOL you're that person

[true drift]

i make no sense at times

i know lol

[frail delta]

Thank you 🙏

[true drift]

oh god you found me

[true drift]

this was added a while ago

[untold hornet]

Any one use the playstation link stick an does it work with bt headphones an does it take bt mic input from headphones

[crimson moat]

hi

[true drift]

I was thinking about getting a new monitor

idk which one i should buy though

[humble kraken]

so 1 question in here would it be worth it to upgrade to a 9800x3d i have a 5700x3d right now and a rtx 4080 super

[queen cliff]

Looking for a sanity check

Symptom 3rd monitor wont turn on via display port but will via HDMI. (see screenshot for more info)
When I look at it from the display settings it shows disconnet this display and it wont let me chose any other option.

Things i Tried
I took my working 1st monitor and swapped it to the 3rd monitor port and worked fine. So to me the GPU is okay.
I moved the cable from my 3rd monitor and moved it to another port on the GPU and it didnt work
I swapped to a brand new in bag cable and it still didnt work.
I took that same cable and moved it to a known working monitor and it worked.
All windows updates done
All nvidia updates done

I'm not sure what else to check.

I felt like ive eliminated the GPU from being the issue

Is there anything else I could do before i consider the monitor displayport dead?

[swift moss]

bitches said i could ignore cout

[peak knot]

Make sure to restart pc when connecting via DP it’s not a hot pluggable cable and a restart is needed every single time you try another port and such by standard

HDMI can be hot plugged

(Some monitors and such do work when hot plugging DP, however by its standard it must be treated like a ps2 port and be power cycled to be tested)

[frail delta]

Use HDMI, problem solved

If you’re lazy like me, that is

[queen cliff]

Thanks for that reminder. Will try that now

[queen cliff]

I sometimes play 3 monitor driving sim games so i need the hz 😦

[spring latch]

Dell is lowkey weird, The wyse 3040 has an iGPU VID that of the HD 5000 Graphics despite being cherry trail and should probably have Intel Cherry Trail Graphics.

[carmine yew]

Functional, but not always the best

[fallen sky]

Surely someone will buy it

[formal sonnet]

I hope not. It's TikTok 🤮 on a soon to be unsupported iPhone model.

[fallen sky]

Ain’t nobody care what model it is

People fein for TikTok

[lapis condor]

TikTok got unbanned lol

[fallen sky]

Not in the App Store

[cunning cloud]

How would you get a ethernet connection from one room to another? Lets say theyre 20-30 ft apart

[fallen sky]

Wall.

[carmine yew]

Depends on the rooms and things

[fallen sky]

Oh dayum this thing has satellite

[carmine yew]

I'm assuming that it's an apartment?

[balmy tapir]

if ya cant put holes in the wall, you can run a longer cable between the rooms like along the floor trim or something

[carmine yew]

If you can't drill, moca is a decent choice

Wifi is also decent

I use wifi on my pc for now for similar reasons

[polar dagger]

thx will look into it

[shell arrow]

Chat do u recommend the hd 820 for gaming?

Nvm we at dead hour

[clear canyon]

its a joke question too

bc no one should use it

[steel umbra]

they’re overpriced tbh

unless you’d prefer that specific sound signature

[pearl fossil]

i finally got around to run hwinfo on my new pc, this is the summary

it says it's for education somehow, i think the bios might have something to do with it?

because in the bios i did see windows activation stuff

[left dove]

powerline gets better speeds than moca nowadays :u

[swift moss]

well well well (I did it better)

[left dove]

i like the new steam download stats thing

[gusty wagon]

I like mocha

[formal sonnet]

☕

[left dove]

I could go for a good mocha right now, honestly.

[formal sonnet]

Or an eggnog latte and cinnamon brioche bun.

[left dove]

i have eggnog bread downstairs in the fridge

[frail delta]

No it doesn’t :)

[fallen sky]

What does bro think he’s talking about

[vivid pendant]

Okay I literally just looked this up It's still there

[frail delta]

It just doesn’t

[vivid pendant]

I'm going to die laughing I thought that was fake

[fallen sky]

What do u think doesn’t have satellite connection

[frail delta]

What satellites are you talking about

[fallen sky]

bruh

[frail delta]

It has GPS, yes, but it does not have any meaningful satellite connectivity built in

[fallen sky]

What are you talking about

[left dove]

its for when you're in the middle of nowhere and really need to get a message out

[frail delta]

That’s not an iPhone 11…

[pearl fossil]

anything prior to the 14 doesn't have that

[fallen sky]

I don’t think i said I got an 11

Is this rage bait

[pearl fossil]

the 11 doesn't have it, that's all i'm gonna say, i'll let you settle the disagreements lol

[frail delta]

You sent a screenshot of an iPhone 11, then said “oh dayum this thing has satellite”

[fallen sky]

Show

[fallen sky]

Ain’t nobody ever said it did

[frail delta]

#tech-chat-1 message

#tech-chat-1 message

[fallen sky]

First one is an eBay listing wdym

I just typed that because that’s what i was thinking at the moment i discovered it

Doesn’t have any context whatsoever

[whole garden]

[fallen sky]

What do u think i took the picture with

Why would i be just now noticing a feature of a phone im selling

[fallen sky]

Hi hru

[minor sleet]

Hi

[fallen sky]

Hi

[whole garden]

I’m doing quite well, how about you?

[fallen sky]

Off topic but idc

Only grade in the grade book is an F because I didn’t bring a presention board. Nobody in my whole class did actually so we all got Fs to start the semester

Fun times

Tech talk shall continue

[fallen sky]

I won’t drop

[steel umbra]

i do drop

[whole garden]

I dropped it

[fallen sky]

💥

[left dove]

stylish enough or no

[fallen sky]

What’s that

[left dove]

imo skull mask & gold aviators goes hard

[pearl fossil]

vibes

[swift moss]

moving on to sequential logic :D (i love this so far)

[frigid topaz]

I'm selling my 150€ android tv box to a pawn shop today. Curios on what they give me for it

[swift moss]

10eur TOPS lol

[frigid topaz]

That would be wild

[swift moss]

i dare you

[frigid topaz]

If they say 10 imma throw it at them

[pearl fossil]

probably 20-30

[swift moss]

actually ill say 20

[swift moss]

lmfao

aight if they say 20-30 ill go 15

locked in 15

[pearl fossil]

i'll say 25

[frigid topaz]

I'm already pissed off cause there's thin ice on everything this morning so can't even stand

Imagine they say 5€ rn or 10€ store credit

Hopefully they have a cheap 12th gen cpu there

[simple palm]

Installing bazzite on my laptop. Hope this will work unlike SteamOS

[rigid fjord]

2 floorboards and a drill

[pearl fossil]

LMFAO

[rigid fjord]

ask it about 1984

[rustic chasm]

I have two 1 tb HDDs lying around and don't know what to do with them. I also have a very old laptop, I thought I would turn it into a media server, but it's missing internet drivers, I don't want to spend much money. What can I do with these, both together or individually is fine.

[tidal geyser]

Just use ethernet

[rustic chasm]

That doesn't work either for some reason, tried 2-3 linux distros

[rigid fjord]

the hdd's i'd sell off, and the drivers can be fairly easily found, what's the make and model of the laptop?

[tidal geyser]

Truenas will be unhappy with just one drive but yolo

[tidal geyser]

Older then me

[rigid fjord]

still younger than me

[ebon marlin]

Unc

[pearl fossil]

i tried to fool it :(

[rigid fjord]

ask about 1984

[pearl fossil]

ok

[ebon marlin]

Run deepseek locally

[rustic chasm]

Compaq presario CQ40

[ebon marlin]

On the web version there's another AI model running to censor stuff like that

[pearl fossil]

the server is busy

time to become xi jinping

[pearl fossil]

i'm on my phone rn

[rigid fjord]

https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/compaq-presario-cq40-100-notebook-pc-series/model/3805639
found this, and as it can run win7 you could get it to run win10 on it

[frail delta]

The model does tell you. They’ve just censored the output on the web client

[pearl fossil]

ok so the xi jinping trick worked, however it won't respond

[rustic chasm]

Windows runs miserably slow, but thanks I'll try again

[pearl fossil]

how do i run it locally

[rigid fjord]

as for linux drivers, realtek lan, broadcom wifi

[frail delta]

You’d be better off using huggingface if you just want to play around

[pearl fossil]

i just looked up and it's 131gb... oof

[frail delta]

Then you don’t have to download the model

[rustic chasm]

thanks, I will try that

[pearl fossil]

makes sense

[rigid fjord]

when you look up the windows stuff, you can search for linux alternatives that work for the same device tbf, just have to know what devices are connected to the mobo beforehand

[dusty dew]

I really wonder if rtx 2050 is basically a GTX 1630 with rt

[rigid fjord]

also, as it uses sata, you could swap out what it has and put in a sata 2.5 ssd @rustic chasm

[rigid fjord]

it's a relabelled 3050 running at a slightly lower power draw

[dusty dew]

Aaand I have windows 11 ready for that incoming new laptop

[tidal geyser]

well shit, i turned on the nvidia drivers for my remote server so i could setup jellyfin for my dad and sister and lets just say thats not the best move when you are 100km away from the server

[rustic chasm]

Yes, will do after a while, spent all my budget upgrading two other laptops with ram and SSDs 🙂

[dusty dew]

It's worse I guess? Because you cannot lose 30% performance by simple wattage drop

[random gyro]

If you did Ollama run you can see it filters it as harmful during <think><\think> phase

[pearl fossil]

i love my new pc tbh

[pearl fossil]

oh damn

[rigid fjord]

barely tbh

[junior valve]

gets obsolete after 2 years 💔

[primal void]

Beast 👺

[pearl fossil]

u sure a 5th gen ryzen 3 goes obsolete in 2 years?

[junior valve]

yes

[dusty dew]

It's a big disappointment given that 780m is fighting that 2050 directly, and it's igp

[tidal geyser]

ram is in the wrong slots and the one in the back looks like its not fully in

[primal void]

If I get a new ram I will probably beat 12600k with 4090 on YouTube benchmarks

[primal void]

It's in the good slots

[pearl fossil]

i always hear about the iphone fans getting new phones every year... same goes for pc ppl and nobody complains

[dusty dew]

Unless team green unlocks their dlss versions on all rt cards

[tidal geyser]

and what is the good slots?

[primal void]

Ryzen 3 5gen is obsolete even now

[primal void]

2 and 4

[tidal geyser]

nice

[pearl fossil]

are you gonna tell me 10th gen i5 is also obsolete

[tidal geyser]

i do not know of any zen 5 ryzen 3s?

[dusty dew]

Depends on use case, it is if you do workstation latest gen jobs

[pearl fossil]

(that's what i have in my main desktop)

[primal void]

It is running game stable 3600mt/s, too lazy to run memtest5 for couple hours

[junior valve]

my i9 is getting slow now , not getting above 60fps in beamng

[pearl fossil]

i have a 5350ge maybe that's why

[rustic chasm]

Obsolete is a very strong word, as long as it fits your use case, its good!

[dusty dew]

But who does that with a ryzen 3? oh wait.... (Recalls my previous employer using i3 8th gen with rtx 2060 super for autocad)

[pearl fossil]

i'm sorry but you have a problem with ur pc... it's not supposed to be that bad

maybe clean your pc, change the thermal paste, and debloat ur os first?

[tidal geyser]

thats gen 3

[primal void]

I am beating i9 12900k in 1% lows in CS2 from YouTube benchmarks on my R5 5500 so i9 12gen is obsolete 😆

[junior valve]

i just repasted it yesterday

[pearl fossil]

oh damn lenovo lied to me

[tidal geyser]

did they?

[dusty dew]

[pearl fossil]

lenovo has told me in their customer support that it's 5th gen

[junior valve]

yea right buddy

[tidal geyser]

i do not think lenovo is that dumb

[rustic chasm]

this is sarcasm, right?

[pearl fossil]

their support ppl maybe

[tidal geyser]

ryzen 9000 is 5th gen

aka zen 5

your cpu is zen 3

[pearl fossil]

that's what i thought 😭

[junior valve]

the just just requires alot more cores

[tidal geyser]

yeah its pretty sad how the i9 is still only 8 core

[primal void]

🤯

[pearl fossil]

i was kinda surprised when i heard that, but i asked a few times if they're sure

[junior valve]

so by that , a 3600x is faster than a 12900k

[dusty dew]

Zen= 1000
Zen+=2000/3000(mobile)
Zen 2= 3000/4000(mobile)
Zen 3= 5000
Zen 3+= 6000

Then AMD rekt that coding years back

[tidal geyser]

the naming for mobile cpus is pain

[primal void]

Chiplet 🤢

[junior valve]

also do not use the stock cooler that came with the i9 , not recommended even for light use

[tidal geyser]

fyi i checked its zen 3

well your cpu is

[tidal geyser]

well yea NO SHIT

[dusty dew]

Me? You mean my upcoming laptop?

[tidal geyser]

most are 300-400w cpus

[pearl fossil]

yeah i checked it's zen 3

[tidal geyser]

that ryzen 3 is zen 3

[dusty dew]

You mean the other guy

[junior valve]

tried it , 1/10 cooler , 70c idle

[dusty dew]

My laptop that's coming is a 7940hs

[left dove]

aaaaaa

[tidal geyser]

thats zen 4

[tidal geyser]

no shit

[pearl fossil]

amd's naming scheme is wack it makes sense the customer support guy was wrong

[junior valve]

ima try the old one next to it a see

[rigid fjord]

yeah, no, you be absolutely smoking some crack there

[left dove]

oh hey the motherboard im gonna get has a 7945hx that gen is goated

[junior valve]

prob gpu bottlenecked

[dusty dew]

Well AMD is pretty good tbh, because, that Ryzen 9 is close to a 3900x(zen 2), in 2 archi leaps it did 2x

[left dove]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CNPZ874Y look its so cute

[low abyss]

Does anyone know what this is?

[rigid fjord]

5000 = zen3 desktop, zen 2 + 3 laptop

[left dove]

is it in a bathroom

[dusty dew]

Woah that's a full form Ryzen 9

[tidal geyser]

it calls for help

[primal void]

🤯 the same testing method, he uses 1% instead of 1% avg

I love YouTube benchmarks

[rigid fjord]

according to who?

[primal void]

They are always wrong

[tidal geyser]

where is the r5 7600?

[low abyss]

Does this have anything to do with wifi?

[left dove]

wheres the 386

wheres the 8086

[tidal geyser]

where the hell are you

[left dove]

wheres the 6502

[junior valve]

source : me

[low abyss]

This is in my room

[left dove]

wheres the pentium mmx

[primal void]

YouTuber: Zmaslo
Idk the rest

[pearl fossil]

486dx my beloved