tech-chat-1

[sand epoch]

was this a good decision

[random gyro]

nah tbh

[topaz horizon]

Anyone got any idea what's causing this

[hoary tree]

I might be buying an EVGA 3090 from a friend for $600

[forest lotus]

Keep the airflow good

Especially over the back of the GPU

3090s suck for high temperatures on the rear vram

[swift moss]

this is SO cool omg

[wise jewel]

meta pcs better count their days

[hybrid lake]

Can I plug one of my fans in to aio pump header?

[wise jewel]

what

[minor sleet]

Uwu, what’s dis?

[left dove]

fpga design

[forest lotus]

Mmm

Mmm. Tasty 552w 6900XT

Mmmmmmmm I love power consumption

[wise jewel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/845318240745160775/1049754429735313429/unknown-3-1.gif

[whole garden]

Yes

[tired hawk]

WAIT🫃 THIS IS A REAL EMOJI I thought it was fake NOOOO

[formal sonnet]

Technically, yes, though most motherboards run the AiO Pump header at 100% speed / power because it's supposed to be connected to a pump, so the fan will likely be running at 100%.

[indigo basin]

I'm guessing that pumps probably behave weird at like 25% speed etc too?

not sure if the motors are geared up/down

[tired hawk]

I have ADHD (it sux I wish it was called autism but different because when people hear ADHD then they go "he can't focus" and when I say something that isn't related to the name but is related to ADHD they go "that's just an excuse"... that won't happen with autism)

[minor sleet]

k

[hybrid lake]

But I can change that in bios right?

[formal sonnet]

Should be able to, on most motherboards at least.

[hybrid lake]

Okay thanks for the answers guys

[left dove]

some masc people can get pregnant, yeah

[left dove]

oh it does.

[forest lotus]

Welp I now found a way to save myself a few bucks on utilities

Power is cheaper then natural gas so just have my gpus mine/fold/render for when im not gaming and yeah let my PC heat my apartment

[empty quartz]

Freaky

[left dove]

house yay

[empty quartz]

Freaky house

[vivid pendant]

What aib board partner has the biggest 5090?

i think its the msi suprim

[bronze summit]

I fucking hate motion blur

Stupid ass settings

And also

Why does Cyberpunk not have... 120 FOV

You'd think for a game graphically advanced it would have at least 120 FOV

[peak knot]

probably HOF

[vivid pendant]

HOF?

[peak knot]

oh wait its not public yet

only their 5080 is public as of now

[vivid pendant]

ah

[peak knot]

this is the 5080 HOF

HOF cards are XOC focused cards and are top of the line

5090 HOF OC lab will be about $4000 rumored

but good like buying one as a normal PC person even if you wanted one

they are pretty much sold to overclockers directly

[vivid pendant]

ah

[peak knot]

this was the 4090 HOF

[minor sleet]

Was?

[vivid pendant]

i dont even see it on the website for the 5080

and the 4090 one was, 1mm bigger in length and width then the msi suprim

[peak knot]

you wont find them on normal sites

[vivid pendant]

can u link me where

[peak knot]

you gotta know where to look to get HOF especially in the USA

no

i dont get my HOF directly myself

i have to go through contacts

[minor sleet]

All my fuckin contacts are just fuckass engineers

[vivid pendant]

i dont have contacts

[peak knot]

@lapis condor i just got offered a 4070ti super FE for 6000 yen

think im gonna pass atm

[eternal cloak]

Yen or Yuan

[vivid pendant]

IF i can get my hands on a differnt 5090 later i probably will

[peak knot]

cny specifically

[eternal cloak]

Yuan then, 6000 Yen would be crazy

[cold skiff]

Yen? That’s like £30

[vivid pendant]

mine is not exactly small. 342mm long but i want bigger

[peak knot]

$860 usd roughly

[peak knot]

bigger doesnt equal better you know

and most AIBs these days are just stretched reference cards

[eternal cloak]

That's what he said

[minor sleet]

laughs in 1 meter squared silicon die

[lapis condor]

Is it a funny ES

[peak knot]

i mean try to find me a founders edition 4070ti super

[lapis condor]

Oh wait i just comprehended

[peak knot]

catch is, no cooler

[lapis condor]

Awwwww

[vivid pendant]

my laptop is a gigbyte

it litteraly cooked itself,

yknow its amazing having a cpu at 125 degrees NOT THROTTLING

[peak knot]

but the 4070 super FE cooler should work

[lapis condor]

Well I'd assume it'd be exactly the same as a 4070/4080 ish cooler

[vivid pendant]

and a gpu at similar temps

i dont know if i trust gigbate tbh they basicaly went "Fuck you buy a new one" when i reached out to them for help

cooler, no gaps

[peak knot]

if your wanting a good GPU PCB you gotta look at the components themselves

[vivid pendant]

massive fucking gap in the cooler fins, that just scares me. obviousl ill stress test it myself when its build

[peak knot]

that gap doesnt matter

[eternal cloak]

My ISP has an outage
I now go from 2.5 Gbit/s to 100 Mbit/s lmfao

[vivid pendant]

why does it not matter

[lapis condor]

Prime example of bigger is not better is the Asus Astral 5080 and 5090's 4th fan adding literally nothing but noise to the card
Disabling the 4th fan results in same temps but quieter

[lapis condor]

Because the finstack is not a load bearing component

[minor sleet]

C?

[lapis condor]

That goes to the heatpipes and the coldplate

[vivid pendant]

but thats what the fans blow over to disicapte the heat

[vivid pendant]

yes C

[lapis condor]

Yes? Having a gap there is by design

[minor sleet]

Eh, seen worse

[frail delta]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-austin-powers-nigel-powers-nigel-powers-michael-caine-austin-powers-michael-caine-gif-13670699742688465820

[vivid pendant]

cpu at 125 degrees not throttling

still drawing full power at max speed

same with gpu, now im faced with constant crashing

i was going to skip this upgrade

[lapis condor]

Having to have like 40 different punch sizes to allow for the heatpipe routing within the finstack in that area alone would be a horrid idea financially

[minor sleet]

Probably just built different and doesn’t give a crap

[lapis condor]

So, no fins there but we get curvy heatpipes instead

[lapis condor]

(it's not, this is an issue)

[vivid pendant]

hello founders edition with 50 different fins

[minor sleet]

Yeah

[lapis condor]

Nvidia has had functionally infinite money the past few years

AIBs had like 3 months to design, test and validate their coolers

3 months or less according to der8auer iirc

[ripe spire]

This is a cool photo

[vivid pendant]

most aibs used old 4090 coolers and adapted them from what im seeing and it seams to have just worked

[ripe spire]

I wish my gpu lights synced up to everything else tho

[vivid pendant]

i do want to overclock so i want a bigger cooler

[hollow jungle]

Guys what’s better 5070 or 4080 ?

[vivid pendant]

the msi suprim and astral seam to be the best rn for air coolers

[peak knot]

5090 asus matrix vs msi suprim vs palit gamerock, now you will notice the suprim and the gamerock are identical basically because they both use the reference design with a custom cooler, so it literally comes down to cooler aesthetics unless your going for the pricier custom PCBs that are meant for overclocking like the HOF or matrix

[ripe spire]

Actually @peak knot those fan and case lights r SignalRGB 🙏

[hollow jungle]

ASUS is always best

[vivid pendant]

the msi suprim is better performing then the asus

higher clocks, less power cooler temps

[hollow jungle]

Lies

[vivid pendant]

look at tech power ups reveiw

they reveiwed 5

[peak knot]

yeah maybe stock but when overclocked the asus stomps on the others

[lapis condor]

Astral's great if you dont mind it being the loudest one lol

[vivid pendant]

it does when overclocked

[hollow jungle]

This guy knows

[peak knot]

i can bet you its not

[vivid pendant]

I HAVE A LAPTOP BROTHER i have fans buzzing at 6000 rpm

do you think 40 decibels bothers me when im dealing with 60-70 rn

i want the astral

i WANT to overclock this thing

that huge ass beefy cooler on the astral and the suprim are what i also NEED because my room

[peak knot]

i know for a fact the asus custom PCBs stomp the reference designs in raw overclocking, im slighly experienced in this field lol

[vivid pendant]

i dont have a temperature controled enviorment

its 80-90 degrees F in here in the summer without a pc

its going to be 100 with this i need the best coolers possible

[eternal cloak]

I was like 'I can temp fix my cooler tomorrow since me thermal paste arrives tomorrow'
nope, the fan arrives first, the thermal paste later lmfao

[peak knot]

then you buy a waterblocked one and custom loop it

[vivid pendant]

im not looking to deal with water

[hollow jungle]

This is known facts

[eternal cloak]

Bruh

[vivid pendant]

i only make 40k a year i dont have an extra 1-2k to throw at a custom loop

[eternal cloak]

Then you have no business saying you want the best coolers lmao

[vivid pendant]

i saved over half of last year to even do this upgrade

[vivid pendant]

money managment i have a 5090 already

[peak knot]

i only make 45K a year

i have multiple custom loops

[vivid pendant]

i live in new york

[peak knot]

ew

[vivid pendant]

enough said there

my cost of living is high as shit

appartments? yeah bye 30k a year

insurance? bye 5 more k

food? dont have enough money to eat now

[eternal cloak]

Who needs food anyway

[vivid pendant]

my room is not temperature controlled it gets cold as fuck in winter so thats fine but in summer

85 degrees average

and that was with my laptop

room temp affects gpus enormously

[eternal cloak]

Ah, that's fine actually lmao

[peak knot]

i pay 1300 month for a 1400 square foot house in tennessee

[vivid pendant]

that would be 5k here

[lapis condor]

Oh you're not going to enjoy the 570-600 watts the card's gonna put out

[vivid pendant]

the heat doesnt bother me

[tired hawk]

I assume at a lesser scale?

[vivid pendant]

its gotten to almost 95-100 in my room before

[lapis condor]

:)

[eternal cloak]

Moving to Kentucky, gotta rent that 2k square for $1,200

[vivid pendant]

so no i need the best cooler

[tired hawk]

:)

[vivid pendant]

i will buy the astral/msi suprim

[lapis condor]

Have you had a space heater on during those temps?

[vivid pendant]

nope

[solar moat]

got to love cpu min spec being listed as i7 or better

[eternal cloak]

Ye, it's questionable you got a 5090 to begin with then kek

[solar moat]

or 3.2ghz or better

[vivid pendant]

air litteraly doesnt circulate into my room with the house layout and shit vents

[tired hawk]

I love when they say "i5 10th gen or better" but what if I have an i3?

[lapis condor]

Woe, 40C room temp upon thee

[vivid pendant]

why shouldnt i buy a 5090 if im in line

.-.

[eternal cloak]

???
BECAUSE YOU CAN'T AFFORD

[solar moat]

i3 12100 better in some games then 9900k

[vivid pendant]

i did afford it

its in my hands hello? im not homeless

i have thousands in my account rn im not a broke ass

[tired hawk]

yeah I know but like those silly devs gatekeeping the i3... smh I would never (on a serious note just say Intel core 10th gen or newer)

[vivid pendant]

i know what my bills cost here and what i need to pay and i didnt impact any of that

[eternal cloak]

You displayed yourself as being broke literally five minutes ago

[solar moat]

g6900 for the win

[eternal cloak]

kek

[vivid pendant]

yeah i cant move out but im not homeless

[lapis condor]

Space heater prime it's gonna be funny in a few months

[viscid helm]

does anyone know why Xbox looks washed out compared to PS5?

in every game, I feel this.

[vivid pendant]

i pay for everything at my house i live with my dad.

[tired hawk]

display settings?

[vivid pendant]

gas, electric, water, wifi

[tired hawk]

it sure looks more washed but like tinker with the settings and google it

[vivid pendant]

i plan on buying a vent fan to suck the cold air into the room

[tired hawk]

space heater (mining rig??)

[eternal cloak]

And the 14100 beats the 9900K in most scenarios too, weeee
An OCed 12100 beats it alongside equaling the 10700K too

[lapis condor]

Only thing I hate about summer is leaving my door open to get ventilation

[tired hawk]

literally cashback on the electricity

[lapis condor]

(single 5090 is a space heater)

[vivid pendant]

we had no ac for 3 years

im used to it

[eternal cloak]

I have my windows open a lot of the time anyway

[vivid pendant]

i was in vegas in 2023 living in a place with no ac for a month

[lapis condor]

But you didn't run a space heater during summer

[tired hawk]

doesn't take a genius to understand that (by genius I mean spend 10 minutes on the internet)

[vivid pendant]

wonderfull 130 degree house

[tired hawk]

more efficient and more speed

[vivid pendant]

i have a dehumidifier for my room

[lapis condor]

Not anymore <3

[viscid helm]

this one option fixed it !

[solar moat]

time for 20 degree

[vivid pendant]

its the humidity not the heat

[tired hawk]

by 130 you mean 130°F?

[tired hawk]

? wym

[vivid pendant]

yep vegas recorded 126 in july 2023 while i was there, but it was a black house so it was hotter inside

[tired hawk]

by cashback I don't mean profit

I just mean get something back and spend less overall

[vivid pendant]

it feels hotter in new york with the humidity then in vegas

[eternal cloak]

A 5% over two generations wowaowaowaohwah!

[solar moat]

was not fun when it was 30 degree at 7:30 for starting owrk and fun when it got to 46 at 1pm

[tired hawk]

relatable

[tired hawk]

wowza!!

[solar moat]

other day then min temp was 32 degree

[vivid pendant]

if this gigabte 5090 gets amzing temps i wont care

[tired hawk]

wowie zowie what an improvement

[vivid pendant]

but if temps suck ill sell it and buy another one

[eternal cloak]

The only issue for me is that the air around me is at 70%+ humidity 70% of the time so I can't leave my window open for that long kek

[vivid pendant]

not scalp, ill sell it what i paid

[tired hawk]

by amazing you mean a bit less than 4090?

[vivid pendant]

dunno never had a 4090

[tired hawk]

also tbh I'd wait for the 6090 and get a 5090 used or a 4090 used when it goes for like 800 euros

[vivid pendant]

wow im sad

[tired hawk]

there wasn't a huge 4090 shortage so it's likely for it to drop that much

[lapis condor]

Mining on GPUs hasn't been profitable since like 2018

[vivid pendant]

gigabytes arous master ice performed WORSE then the founders edition

[neat flame]

insane

[eternal cloak]

Even if I moved to the place with the lowest air humidity in Japan, which is Maebashi in Gunma prefecture, it'd still be sitting at 60% kek

[lapis condor]

Hard to make a good card when Nvidia gives you 3 months or less to make it lol

[low abyss]

how do i get it out of the key cap? any idea?

[lapis condor]

Soupy

[tired hawk]

oh ok 2018 (no but like cashback doesn't mean profit, it means you get a bit back and spend less overall)

[vivid pendant]

in some games

[low abyss]

i just need to get it out, once i get it out, i can superglue it to the switch

[peak knot]

trust me the miners that have been making profit have been using 50 series since last january

[tired hawk]

it's like spend 100 get 30 back

you spend 70

cashback

[lapis condor]

Little bit of superglue on a toothpick maybe?

[eternal cloak]

What a flag man, time to move

[peak knot]

now that its public and the algorithms get busy with all the new gen stuff being common it wont be as profitable

[vivid pendant]

aorus master looks to have good temps

[eternal cloak]

I wonder when the news is gonna pick up that since a certain guy renamed the Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America, literally none of the agreements stopping the oil industry from going BRRRR in the former gulf of mexico apply anymore

[tired hawk]

you mean mining ASICs?

[peak knot]

no i mean literal 50 series silicon

[tired hawk]

ok no

[eternal cloak]

TIME FOR ANOTHER OIL SPILL!

[tired hawk]

as in AMD can catch up?

[high elm]

13900K worth it for $270?

[peak knot]

no i mean i know of people who have had access to 5080 cards for over a year now

[tired hawk]

(can doesn't mean will)

[tired hawk]

ok

like the switch 2?

[peak knot]

no, they are miners in china

[tired hawk]

ok I'm getting confused

[peak knot]

whats so confusing

[tired hawk]

so, miners in china are using 5080 that were stolen from manufacturers?

[peak knot]

crypto miners in china have had access to 5080 cards since last january

[eternal cloak]

Our SIs got them maybe a week before and we had strict instructions not to touch anything kek

[peak knot]

i wont discuss how they got the cards

[tired hawk]

fair

[peak knot]

but they had a lot of them

[tired hawk]

ok thx

[peak knot]

enaugh they were willing to sell some under NDA

[tired hawk]

dang

[peak knot]

$5k+/pop

[tired hawk]

not worth the 2 month early access tho

[peak knot]

12*

[tired hawk]

oh

[peak knot]

last january

[tired hawk]

LAST YEAR????

[peak knot]

yes, they have been mining on 50 series for a year now

[tired hawk]

OH MY GOSH WAS IT FINALIZED BACK THEN?? random non uppercase text cus the LTT bot gets mad and will bring me the bad news

[limpid dune]

that makes no sense, 50 series does not have any efficiency advantages over 40 series... and neither have any advantage over ASICs

[tired hawk]

also, about the drivers... how???

[peak knot]

the drivers and PCB designs and coolers werent but working 50 series cards on linux worked enough to mine with

[tired hawk]

it does

there are some ASIC proof algorithms

and the 50 series is more efficient (more bang per watt)

(doesn't mean the tdp has to be lower)

[limpid dune]

same node, and the shaders are basically the same...?

[tired hawk]

yes

[vivid pendant]

where proof

[tired hawk]

30% more performance for 25% more consumption

[limpid dune]

oh, well I guess the 50 series does have the two-integer-ALUs-per-streaming-module benefit

[peak knot]

that small efficiency gain for over a year before it was public is significant enough they will run them in mass in china

[tired hawk]

listen it's literally a matter of 200k a year and 205k a year (profit estimation)

[limpid dune]

but if the fp-only half of the ALU is disabled, doesn't that mean negligable efficiency benefit?

[peak knot]

i was offered to buy it myself from my contact who i get all my non public stuff from

[tired hawk]

5k is sure something

[tired hawk]

NDA?

[vivid pendant]

did you get offered the 6090 yet?

[tired hawk]

like did they ask you to sign it

[peak knot]

if i had bought it i couldnt talk about it

[vivid pendant]

what about 7090

[tired hawk]

nah gotta wait 3 months for that

[tired hawk]

and that... I'm not sure but I think 9 months will be enough

[vivid pendant]

i want to puchase the asus rog astral 5090

[peak knot]

no, if i had signed an NDA i wouldnt have talked

[vivid pendant]

how do i get my hands on one at msrp like 2800 usd

[tired hawk]

no I mean did they ask you to sign it

not if you signed it or not

[vivid pendant]

do you know anybody who has one

[peak knot]

again im not gonna talk about NDA things lol

i personally did not sign an NDA to know about them,

[vivid pendant]

hello? in stock what

[tired hawk]

A 550 PREMIUM?? whyyyy

[peak knot]

thats a waterblocked card

[vivid pendant]

thats normal hello?

[tired hawk]

oh ok lmao

BUT STILL 550 premium is still wild

[peak knot]

not really

[tired hawk]

idc if water-cooled costs that much it's too much for my pockets

[vivid pendant]

i cant even find a scalped astral

[vivid pendant]

the msrp is 2k asus buys the chip for 1700

they need to make money so they charge more

[tired hawk]

300 profit a card??????? dang

[vivid pendant]

no

[tired hawk]

didn't think Nvidia was that greedy

no?

I meant MSRP

[vivid pendant]

5 dollars profit NVIDIA SELLS THE 5090 to asus for 70-85% of their cards msrp

[tired hawk]

what

[vivid pendant]

asus still needs to research and make a cooler

[tired hawk]

ok nah wym 5 dollar profit

[vivid pendant]

that costs MONEY

[peak knot]

i mean if you bought a normal 5090 your dropping another $250 for a good waterblock anyway so the $550 premium of having a gpu come pre-installed with a waterblock and less of a hard time getting an RMA if it breaks from a non leak is worth the $300 premium

[tired hawk]

WYM 5 DOLLAR PROFIT what the hell

[vivid pendant]

lets say their cooler costs 250 dollars
total cards cost is now 1950 for asus

[tired hawk]

nah

[vivid pendant]

do research

nvidia makes huge profit selling to aib partners

[tired hawk]

no I don't need "research" I need to remember that they need to pay for the motherboard and stuff

[vivid pendant]

they dont buy the board from nvidia they buy the chip

[tired hawk]

it's better to say

[vivid pendant]

all the AIBs have different boards

[tired hawk]

300 dollar window for the other parts

no way I said another false thing

[vivid pendant]

jesus christ

[peak knot]

90% are just the reference design with small tweaks

[tired hawk]

eh whatever 299.99 for that 1c profit

[vivid pendant]

go watch a video on kingpen evga and their break with nvidia

[tired hawk]

I know cus little margin

[vivid pendant]

he litteraly talks about this in the damn video

they have familes and eployees to pay

[tired hawk]

and not worth it

[vivid pendant]

they have to charge more or the share hodlers get angry

[peak knot]

i talk to vince there is a lot more to evga than nvidia being greedy, that was just a part of it

[tired hawk]

but like what does it have to do with what I just said

[vivid pendant]

i know

[limpid dune]

the highest estimations of the GB202 cost from the foundry (including binning) are around $400

[tired hawk]

oh ok

[vivid pendant]

there was a lot more then just that mentioned publicaly

[tired hawk]

yeah but like

[vivid pendant]

thats not what board partners are paying lmao

[tired hawk]

is my statement right with the public information we have

[warm shard]

that's 5090

[tired hawk]

"300 dollar window for the other parts"

[vivid pendant]

yeah thats not enough

[tired hawk]

cus if the chip costs 1700 and the MSRP is 2000 they have a 300 dollar window for the cooler and stuff to break even

[vivid pendant]

lets say asus wants to make a card with 7 different fins
eacch fin stamp press costs 3k-20k usd

[tired hawk]

299.99 for profit disregarding shipment cost

[peak knot]

the big thing is evga's ceo was wanting to retire and didnt trust the company to continue how he wanted under anyone elses direction, and felt like he was getting to old to haggle with nvidia also, so he shut down the company in sections and is now totally defunct

[vivid pendant]

you dont understand businness Emayeah

ive been a store manager at places before

[tired hawk]

what did I miss

like I'm no expert sure but what did I miss

[lapis condor]

The 5090 is approx. 700 for AIBs

[vivid pendant]

from what source?

[tired hawk]

cool I'm not old enough to get legally employed

[vivid pendant]

in most us states you can start working at 14

[lapis condor]

YouTube channel High Yields makes some extremely educated guesses

[mortal mantle]

how does chatgpt get something wrong with a fuckin web search

[tired hawk]

does my PFP scream "from the US"?

[lapis condor]

GDDR7 in the config that's needed for a 5090 is 300 ish lol

[lapis condor]

'chatgpt'
There's the answer

[vivid pendant]

and i bet they are wrong considering every other past card was 70-85% of nvidias founders msrp

[peak knot]

i could also ask my contacts to get a rough price, hell i could reach out to asus china

[limpid dune]

this does not include the markup and shipping of course, this is just raw GB202 dies. yes I know Nvidia sells them at a profit, I'm not THAT stupid

[lapis condor]

Lol

[peak knot]

he isnt far off

[lapis condor]

Yeah, there is quite a good calculator online that can give a very good guess as to die costs according to size, wafer cost and approximate yields

[tired hawk]

I need to be 16 to get a job in Italy (28 days left till employment)

[boreal vine]

my plans on confusing the shit out of my coworkers is back

[vivid pendant]

that still doesnt leave a lot of room after research and development, shipping costs of parts, paying employees

[boreal vine]

I have bought 2 alice boards

[vivid pendant]

making the cards shipping them world wide

[boreal vine]

good luck trying to use my desk fuckers

[tired hawk]

yup you're right

[mortal mantle]

so it wasn't even looking in the right place?

[peak knot]

industry of scale

[vivid pendant]

i wanted the asus astral to be more expensive

[fathom meteor]

I have been having some internet issues, recently for like a week or so. And I have from my knowledge exhausted all the possibilities of what it could be. Anyone able to have a chat that is good at this thing?

[boreal vine]

doesn't the astral have problems with the fans being loud asf?

[tired hawk]

but at the same time if it's too expensive then nobody buys it and they get even less money than if they made it cheaper

[boreal vine]

personally, i wouldn't trust the early 50 series, they didn't get tested enough due to nvidia's fuckery

[vivid pendant]

they are nowhere near as loud as my laptop

[boreal vine]

atleast for aibs

[vivid pendant]

so i really wouldnt care

[peak knot]

i wont be able to hear the 5090 at all with my cooler, maybe a small gurgling once the cooler is frosted over

[vivid pendant]

its unforntunate that TSCM had an earthquake and they make the chips

[eternal cloak]

ARC B580 ALL THE WAY

[lapis condor]

Real

[boreal vine]

did you guys get a 5090?

[peak knot]

i do wanna try the arc on ln2

[lapis condor]

Usually, yes

[vivid pendant]

its sad nvidia is getting blamed when a factory that makes them is out of comission

[peak knot]

not yet, our marketing guy was too slow lol

[vivid pendant]

i agree this launch was crap but like bruh

[boreal vine]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-sfm-nope-too-slow-nah-gif-16901879

[vivid pendant]

i got a 5090

[lapis condor]

Mmm, triple digit 5090 stock for the entire country

[peak knot]

im hoping my team can get asus to send us one for this years competition

[tired hawk]

I still don't get when it launched

[boreal vine]

UK is actually so cooked

[lapis condor]

Push the launch back 1 month or draw 50:

[lapis condor]

Hey at least we can preorder
US cannot

[tired hawk]

Brexit single handedly ruined the UK

[boreal vine]

I think it was only like 120? that got released, atleast for purchase

[vivid pendant]

triple diget for microcenter

i think best buy had quite a few cards

[peak knot]

pair the 5090 to the 7995WX and let it fly lol

dual breaker setup lol

[boreal vine]

my friend wants to import form the US but it's impossible to get anyways so not sure how he's doing that

[tired hawk]

the fact that they needed to make deals with the EU for imports and stuff is enough to tell you that they aren't strong enough alone, other than the lower quality of living due to imports taking longer because checking stuff

[boreal vine]

yummy watts

[peak knot]

i mean the 7995WX was pulling 2kw alone

[tired hawk]

waiter waiter please give me more watts

[eternal cloak]

https://youtu.be/dNd2kdypu8c
Love that shit

[peak knot]

on just the cpu

[boreal vine]

what psu would you actually use to power that thing up?

[frail delta]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381193783296917507/1318873649595289640/ab332a6f-39fd-431a-95b6-dcc96988d125.gif

[boreal vine]

Fuck you too topslop

[limpid dune]

you've seen those charts of "letters ranked by popularity"?

imagine doing a chart for "given letter X, what are the odds of the next letter being Y?"

now imagine extending this chart to be every possible letter-ending to every possible prefix, up to a few thousand letters. Now imagine making a program that uses that chart to make a statistically accurate guess as to what letter should be next. Now imagine making that program run again and again so it keeps generating more letters. That's it, that's all ChatGPT does... with some fancy math to make it easier.

Dude, do NOT use chatgpt as a source. It's a miracle it's even coherent.

[peak knot]

we were running 2x 1600W units

[boreal vine]

how you doing?

[peak knot]

if we were running 5090 on it we would run 3x

[boreal vine]

chinese new year had me dead tbh

now i'm back to work, to reality

I finally got invited to the auntie table

[low abyss]

what is the difference between xmp profile1 and xmp profile 2?

[frail delta]

CNY is so annoying when you don’t celebrate lol

[peak knot]

xmp2 typically excludes some secondary timings so they are left auto

[low abyss]

which is more stable for a low end motherboard?

[boreal vine]

on asus, xmp2 is the full profile, xmp1 is optimized profile by asus (it's dogshit and is always unstable)

[peak knot]

depends on the xmp, and what your setup is

[lapis condor]

Why do that
The UK etailers are doing that already lol

[tired hawk]

cya I'ma touch grass (aka close discord for the moment)

[boreal vine]

don't know, he just sold his 4090 for 1800

[peak knot]

xmp is set by stick not the mobo vendor

[low abyss]

what about generally? for motherboards like asrock?

[boreal vine]

he bought that thing for 1500 so he actually made a tidy profit

[limpid dune]

someone told me he's gonna sue Discord for violating his nitro agreement. I asked him what they violated and he said "oh, I just asked chatgpt about a thing they did and it told me that Discord's rules forbade it"

I'm a programmer myself. please PLEASE I BEG YOU ALL don't use chatgpt as a source.

[timber rivet]

In my country RTX 40 series went up in price, i bought 4070S for 695€ and now it is for 772€, that's hilarious lol.

[boreal vine]

tell that to asus

[edgy holly]

the fact they made the exact same advertisement or almost is peak

[boreal vine]

you can use multi profile, but by default, it uses asus optimized profiles

[frail delta]

EVERYONE is on leave istg

[boreal vine]

it's almost always dogshit

[boreal vine]

unlucky, it's time for you to be chinese or asian

[edgy holly]

girly reached the female version of being an unc

[neat flame]

did he saw a boat in half

otherwise im not watching

[boreal vine]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-limbs-restricted-kneeling-on-the-floor-screaming-sped-up-gif-14767206172411155766

[low abyss]

should i stick with xmp profile 1 than 2 for my asrock h610m motherboard for more stability?

[edgy holly]

this remind of the dude on twitter that go "heres what you would look like if you were black or asian"

[frail delta]

All the white people that work at Yealink are useless

[boreal vine]

I also get to watch wwe royal rumble with cousins

[edgy holly]

aunt

[timber rivet]

RTX 60 series could be around like 2028 right? Because i'm skipping RTX 50, not worth it for me.

[frail delta]

Same with Grandstream

[boreal vine]

seeing ishowspeed get manhandled was hilarious as fuck

[frail delta]

Fucking annoying

[mortal mantle]

lol

[boreal vine]

I swear someone got a message from ali express saying that they should cancel their order because of cny

[peak knot]

its already being worked on

id predict late 2026, early 2027

[mortal mantle]

making chatgpt guess just hits the cap (due to how wrong it is)

[boreal vine]

not sure if it was here on some mech board discords

[edgy holly]

agree

[timber rivet]

Oh, that's perfect, i wanna get a completely new pc in few years. 50 series cars is just not worth it for 5950x.

[vivid pendant]

if you know how to get hands on an asus astral 5090 can u tell me?

its so pretty and i wanna overclock

[boreal vine]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-ishow-i-show-speed-i-show-gif-16925919281923225113

[peak knot]

i dont buy things retail i cant help you

[peak knot]

i buy things directly from asus

[timber rivet]

I'll just keep my case, PSU and possibly cooler, if i'm gonna go AM5.

[edgy holly]

THATS WILD

[vivid pendant]

how can i buy dirrectly from asus

[peak knot]

you cant

you need an asus contact

[mortal mantle]

and I don't have that issue

[peak knot]

im on the USA overclocking team and i also work in the computer industry

[mortal mantle]

they are just slow

[timber rivet]

You think it's a good idea to get pc components through employer? To get it without tax and perhaps from manufactureer it self this way?

[vivid pendant]

welp

[boreal vine]

whatever happened to panda buy

[analog phoenix]

Haii

[peak knot]

depends on your work, i get stuff from asrock normally but theres no warranty

[edgy holly]

why is this shit mad funny

[peak knot]

like i recently was sent a couple x870e and z890 boards

[frail delta]

Hmm
-# hmm

[analog phoenix]

Question

[peak knot]

answer

[mortal mantle]

is it normal for something from aliexpress to be in transit country twice

[boreal vine]

do you have to send it back? or do you get to keep it?

[edgy holly]

contestation

[analog phoenix]

Is this a good build?
For Specs

[mortal mantle]

obviously yes

[analog phoenix]

Yey

[peak knot]

depends on the hardware and such, normally we get to hold onto it but they can ask for it back whenever

[smoky granite]

Anyone have issues copying files off a NTFS drive on mac? I saw a discussion on it on apples website, with only a few comments, and wondering if anyone else has run into the issue?

[mortal mantle]

like this is already good

[honest flint]

Guys, serious help required.... I accidentally end task for my file explorer in task manager. And now my display won't display anything

[analog phoenix]

Oop

[mortal mantle]

(CPU is i7-8700k)

[analog phoenix]

Try running a new task

[honest flint]

Please help 😭

[boreal vine]

Can you use it on your personal builds?

[honest flint]

Display won't display anything

[frail delta]

What is the issue

[analog phoenix]

Have u tried plugging in a new display

[mortal mantle]

Run new task > explorer.exe

[honest flint]

I don't have another one!

[honest flint]

Monitor won't display anything

[boreal vine]

iirc on old macOS versions, ntfs was read only, but I believe they have fixed that recently

[smoky granite]

Whenever I try copying multiple files / folders from a external drive (NTFS) to my macbook, It errors out on code 50

[smoky granite]

the issue is back with macos 15.1

[analog phoenix]

ohh

[boreal vine]

you can't write to NTFS drives

[smoky granite]

I dont need to

[boreal vine]

if that's what you're doing

[smoky granite]

i just want to read and copy it all to my local drive

[peak knot]

i put it on my test bench but typically no, i could if i ran it by my boss though

[mortal mantle]

killing explorer won't nuke your display

[honest flint]

Idk what happened

[boreal vine]

personally haven't run into this issue but tbf, my home machine is still on monteray

[rigid fjord]

@boreal vineyou with barclays?

[boreal vine]

nope, but someone from family works with them, they got fucked over the weekend

[peak knot]

could see i was running the taichi here

[boreal vine]

Are you @rigid fjord?

[mortal mantle]

if you closed taskmanager do ctrl + shift + esc

[rigid fjord]

yes 😑

[boreal vine]

ohhh neat, taichi's design is actually pretty cool ngl

[boreal vine]

is it fixed now?

[honest flint]

Bro, the monitor is one but won't display anything

[boreal vine]

you can withdraw up to 250gbp

[frail delta]

Pretty sure that’s a known issue

[rigid fjord]

looks to be so

[mortal mantle]

I doubt that

[frail delta]

I remember someone talking about it late December

[boreal vine]

I personally cba with most banks nowadays, I just revolut

[rigid fjord]

no you can't, that's a bullshit troll on social media tbh

[boreal vine]

I got locked out of my bank account because I was transferring like 30 gbp to someone new

[analog phoenix]

Could I use a Ventura iso for my VM?

[frail delta]

“We’re not a bank” is the worst kind of bank to have lol

[boreal vine]

it couldn't recognize my face

[thick iris]

are motherboards from ali express reliable

[analog phoenix]

I don't think

[lapis condor]

Oh fzr I repaired my first card properly

[boreal vine]

it is now a proper bank, it's just the way they handle stuff

[rigid fjord]

stop trying to look younger, it never works

[lapis condor]

#682965984293945344 message

[mortal mantle]

most stuff is from there anyways

[frail delta]

Hmm

[boreal vine]

I got revolut before they closed down registrations in the isle of man

[analog phoenix]

Yeah ig

[boreal vine]

no, it has a hard time recognizing asian faces apparently

[frail delta]

Smells dodgy

[boreal vine]

got that shit removed immediately

[boreal vine]

been using it since 2019

honestly pretty fucking great

[frail delta]

Yeah computer vision has a history of racism

[boreal vine]

you can buy currency and use it with your card with fuck all fees, compared to a normal bank account

[frail delta]

Not getting trained on a diverse range of faces

[thick iris]

i need a am4 cpu that'll last me for the next 6 ish years, is the 5700x good enough

[boreal vine]

5700x3d should last you quite a while

[rigid fjord]

so it's a racist one that says all asians look alike?

[analog phoenix]

I've got an AMD EYPIC

[boreal vine]

pretty much yeah

I got locked out of my bank account to buy a ram kit that doesn't even work

lovely stuff

[peak knot]

NICE!

[smoky granite]

and 8 gigs of ram?

[boreal vine]

was this the 5700xt?

[thick iris]

i suppose i could probably go for one but its alot more expensive than the 5700x

[boreal vine]

yeah but it'll last longer

[minor sleet]

?

[boreal vine]

that extra cache do be making a difference

[peak knot]

2060

[boreal vine]

also rauko sell me your 3600

[boreal vine]

ew, the evga one?

[rigid fjord]

gotta love being made £70 in the red due a banks fuckup

[analog phoenix]

Yee

[thick iris]

what should i get to cool it

[boreal vine]

being charged for overdraft too

[boreal vine]

literally anything at this point, even a stock cooler is fine for it

[rigid fjord]

£8 per each charge over my overdraft

[gloomy sleet]

i got an £8 error in my favour the other day i’m still riding that high

[boreal vine]

tbh, this is the time to be a karen about it

[frail delta]

Turn off your overdraft facility 😌

[gloomy sleet]

it was £8.32!!!!

[frail delta]

Wait for it to be deducted in a couple weeks/months/years

[boreal vine]

shout at their poor telephone agents

[analog phoenix]

?

[gloomy sleet]

ignore the 100s of times the bank has made a mistake and blamed me

[rigid fjord]

mope, i'd get a ton more charges

[frail delta]

How?

[gloomy sleet]

once they withdrew half my pension fund from my old job and said i did it

only gave me 3/4 of what they stole back

[smoky granite]

switch banks

[boreal vine]

yum

[analog phoenix]

Lol

[gloomy sleet]

i did immediately after

[gritty venture]

Lol

[thick iris]

i have this deal for this cooler, should i get it?

[gloomy sleet]

literally next day after being “refunded”

[pastel junco]

hi

[rigid fjord]

i have a small enough overdraft that in itself doesn't get charged for, as "emergency" use, it's when it goes over that , i'll get charged

[boreal vine]

completely up to you

[dusty dew]

Next up: GPU now includes a case as well as in built PSU because 90% of PSUs don't meet ngreedias reqs

[gloomy sleet]

500w?

[boreal vine]

what do you mean 500w for a gpu is unreasonable

[pastel junco]

ive got 2 trash ahh laptop that im tryna fix myself, they’re just some old ones that i used to use, one is a hp that wont take any charge and others a dell which gives me a blinking orange and white light when i charge it, when turned on the power button lights up for a second and no boot just shuts off again

[gloomy sleet]

most psus reach that

[thick iris]

5700X3D
UPSIREN Walrus Assassin
Old SATA ssd from my old computer
16GB ram from my old pc
new case
new psu
new mobo

[gloomy sleet]

if your psu doesn’t reach 500w you shouldn’t be buying a 5090

[boreal vine]

get an nvme ssd while you're at it

[rigid fjord]

now run tm5 with extreme or pcb destroyer config to see if it's stable enough

[thick iris]

for the gpu ill use a 1050 ti for a while as a placeholder but ill upgrade to a rx 7600 or a 6600 xt later on

[boreal vine]

the minimum psu requirement for a 5090 is 1000w

[gloomy sleet]

that’s possibly the biggest upgrade he can get without changing platform so i second this

[gloomy sleet]

that’s insanely overkill

[gritty venture]

Bro it's not stable at all lol I just loaded my cl30 36 36 76 and set it to 6400 just to see if it'd boot and it dud

[gloomy sleet]

you could easily run it on a 750 if your not on a power hungry cpu

[gritty venture]

I'm cranking the voltage and all but hynix chip

[boreal vine]

transient says hi

[gloomy sleet]

fair

[boreal vine]

how is this a big upgrade?

[thick iris]

id have to get the 5700x for that theyre expensive here

[empty quartz]

Freaky house

[timber rivet]

Will 1000W psu last a few years in terms of Watt requierments for new gpus, like to 60 series? I have a BeQuiet 1000W FM11 currently.

[empty quartz]

Dont worry

[ripe spire]

This looks good

[hollow sorrel]

Can anyone recommend a 4tb ssd?

[empty quartz]

Why do you need a 4tb?

[hollow sorrel]

Why not?

[empty quartz]

You most likely dont need it

[hollow sorrel]

I did spec my build with 2tb, but then I had extra money in my budget

[hollow sorrel]

Still nice to have

[empty quartz]

Save the money then

[hollow sorrel]

I mean there's probably no drawbacks to having more storage

[rigid fjord]

nm790, sn5000, xg7000

[smoky granite]

upgrade cpu / gpu

[empty quartz]

Just because you have money left over doesnt mean you should spent it

[rigid fjord]

a 4tb ssd > 2tb ssd

[hollow sorrel]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/z4WgzP

This is what I have specced rn

[ebon marlin]

https://stupidpenisx.com/VideoCardz/status/1886350874219262030?t=oYyVFlgkBWVQocNrwqeePA&s=19

So it begins again

[rigid fjord]

do not get a p3/p3 plus

[hollow sorrel]

That's just for my OS

[rigid fjord]

doesn't matter, do not get it

[topaz horizon]

can someone tell me why it keeps setting itself to do this. I can't use internet on my laptop because of this

[empty quartz]

You dont need a boot drive

[ebon marlin]

Switch manual to automatic if you don't understand that menu

[hollow sorrel]

I've been told it helps

[empty quartz]

It doesnt

[ebon marlin]

Not necessary

[hollow sorrel]

And again what are the drawbacks

[topaz horizon]

I do, the issue is. It sets itself back to manual after

[smoky granite]

not if its a bad boot drive

[topaz horizon]

I didn't set it to manual myself

[ebon marlin]

Remember to hit save

[rigid fjord]

it does help when windows likes to do a fucky wucky

[empty quartz]

Wasting money on stuff you dont need

[empty quartz]

Thats less likely to happen then a linux install shitting the bed

[hollow sorrel]

No offence but I've had more good advice from Rauko so I'm gonna go with what he's told me

[rigid fjord]

more likelier than linux ever doing that

[empty quartz]

Ive had more fresh installs of linux that shit the bed than anything else

[topaz horizon]

I understand I am doing that and it stays on automatic for a couple of seconds then it switches itself back

[hollow sorrel]

I still haven't been given an answer to what's a good 4tb nvme drive

[empty quartz]

Just get whatever

[rigid fjord]

i did say 3 models

[hollow sorrel]

Oh yeah sorry, got lost

[ebon marlin]

Do you even need a 4tb nvme drive you're getting midrange hardware i'd downgrade ssd size to upgrade ur gpu/cpu

[rigid fjord]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/fKftKq

[empty quartz]

He’s too dense for that

[hollow sorrel]

Does it matter if I need a 4tb ssd

[ebon marlin]

Waste of money

[hollow sorrel]

I want to have a 4tb ssd

[empty quartz]

You dont

[topaz horizon]

Windows always manages to make me hate the world 🗿

[ebon marlin]

Get 1tb/2tb at first and upgrade when you need to

[eternal cloak]

Who cares, it's their money

If they want a 4TB SSD, they get a 4TB SSD

[empty quartz]

Oh, i guess ill recommend sabrent rocket 8tb’s to everyone then

[ebon marlin]

It's just stupid

[eternal cloak]

Idk why you always use an extreme to make your stupid point
Besides that, those got quite a bit cheaper recently

[eternal cloak]

No it's not
Apart from price there's zero downside going with more storage

[stark panther]

Gone to use the pc this morning and this is happening. What is it?

[empty quartz]

They’re still far from cheap

[eternal cloak]

Who cares, it's their money

[true stirrup]

I don't see any stairs

[eternal cloak]

Idk why you're so invested on their spending lol

[smoky granite]

SABRENT Rocket 5 4TB - Gen 5 is $730usd on newegg rn. get that

[ebon marlin]

Could be used on something more practical

[empty quartz]

He is on a budget

[eternal cloak]

Just get the 4TB SSD if you want to, they're being rather nonsensical

[empty quartz]

Another poor take from kaz to add to the list

[eternal cloak]

Not your problem ain't it

[eternal cloak]

Your stupid list is irrelevant kek
They want a 4TB SSD, so they have a 4TB SSD
If they want to waste their budget on that, shit happens

[rigid fjord]

now that is a bad purchase considering it needs active cooling

[eternal cloak]

I'm not gonna be excited for Gen 6 SSDs, ngl

[smoky granite]

it'll be fast until it overheats. it'll be fine

[empty quartz]

I am willing to bet money that my pcie 3.0 ssd runs hotter (even with a big ass heatsink)

[rigid fjord]

when you need to have it hooked up to an active ac unit specifically

[rigid fjord]

of all about 30 seconds

if your lucky

[empty quartz]

🥶 freezing cold ssd @smoky granite

[eternal cloak]

I'm gonna be pissed when there's gonna be AIO watercoolers for RAM, especially because I know it's gonna be happening eventually

[empty quartz]

It peaked at 73c

[rare musk]

bluetooth ssd

[lapis condor]

Oh that doesn't count it's gross
Power stage replacement on the chode rtx 2060

[empty quartz]

Thankfully this is rated for 83c before you run into issues

[lapis condor]

Will be following shaggy's suggestion to measure the phase with an oscilloscope to ensure it's not switching weirdly lol

[rigid fjord]

you're going to be pissed at my 2 gen 3 drives then that never touches that temp despite no heatsinks on it

[empty quartz]

Im not pissed

I know my ssd runs hot

[fallow yacht]

100 dollar fire starter

wait no 200

[rigid fjord]

more like $1k firestarter

[empty quartz]

Its not a cheap consumer drive… its a workstation drive, of course it needs a beefy cooler

[rigid fjord]

remember a gen 5 drive is like $100 for 500gb @fallow yacht

[storm jasper]

Chat I found a 50 dollar 1 petabyte drive 💀

[lapis condor]

Yeah the ugly one

[rigid fjord]

it's only 1tb

[storm jasper]

It's a joke

[strange atlas]

should i change this

[empty quartz]

@rigid fjord Look at the controller on this thing tho

[rigid fjord]

i do see it, controllers are generally hotter than the nand

[rigid fjord]

jokes are meant to be funny, you know

[smoky granite]

i always have in the past. i dont know how much it does though. someone else might

[vivid pendant]

It does a decent bit

[rigid fjord]

you've not done a chipset install

[vivid pendant]

Mostly fan curves and clock limits

[empty quartz]

This ssd actually matches my mp44l in some areas even though its pcie 3.0

[rare musk]

it wont change much since its not laptop

[vivid pendant]

I'm using that with a little windows registry modification to limit CPU and GPU clock speeds or to lock them to what I want

[rigid fjord]

eh, i might affect the cpu a little but doesn't touch fan curves

[vivid pendant]

The balanced makes my laptop fans slow and high performance makes them go to max

[empty quartz]

🗿

[vivid pendant]

Maybe that's cuz it laptop

[smoky granite]

yeah

[vivid pendant]

Waiting on my other parts to arrive for my build

[rigid fjord]

@strange atlasif you had chipset drivers installed, power options would be like this

[empty quartz]

This was closer than what i was expecting when i was benchmarking

[mortal mantle]

holy fuck

[vivid pendant]

I have my chipset driver's and don't have that

I also don't have 90% of the Nvidia control panel settings

[empty quartz]

:3

[vivid pendant]

So I don't know.

[true stirrup]

Just leave it on balanced you will not see basically any performance difference in games

[mortal mantle]

how bad is that

[empty quartz]

Unless you’re on a laptop*

[strange atlas]

oh okay than

why is there a option then

[empty quartz]

or overclocking

[rigid fjord]

sn500 vs sn570

[mortal mantle]

all the shit I have enabled

[peak knot]

i use it to prevent my pc from downclocking

[lapis condor]

Oh yeah also Im getting a real CPU (Z790m mpower and 14600k)

[peak knot]

in high performance mode it forces the PC to always run at its highest clocks

[vivid pendant]

Yeah

[empty quartz]

I sent the iops, heres mb/s

[vivid pendant]

I use high performance mode + a clock limiter so it runs at the max allowed clock

[strange atlas]

i might want that downclocking i guess :d

[vivid pendant]

I have my i7 11800h limited to 2.8Ghz max

[empty quartz]

Why?

[vivid pendant]

Your GPU is hot holy

[peak knot]

your throttling yourself to hell

[mortal mantle]

but wtf does Google put a tracker on their site or what

[vivid pendant]

I like not crashing 50 times a day

[empty quartz]

The gpu is 68c???

[peak knot]

might need a repaste

[vivid pendant]

I see 101 on hotspot

Needs a repast.

[empty quartz]

Hotspot doesnt matter

[rigid fjord]

laptops chipsets aren't directly like desktop ones tbh

[strange atlas]

thermal pads are expensive man

[vivid pendant]

Hotspot does matter

[mortal mantle]

this is normal right

[peak knot]

i was talking to you about your laptop

[empty quartz]

Not as much as you think

[latent pasture]

why not just limit power instead of clock
so if it needs single thread it can still put all of like 10 watts on 1 core and still get its max single thread

[vivid pendant]

I've repasted it several times

It cooked itself

What would you say to a CPU burning at 125°C and not throttling at all

[empty quartz]

Cough cough e-waste cough cough

[vivid pendant]

Same with my GPU.
(Before it repasted it)

[mortal mantle]

also 24GB vram on RX Vega 56 how?

[strange atlas]

what to look for when buying thermal pads? for gpu

[vivid pendant]

Shared memory is included so ram

[empty quartz]

Shared mem + dedicated vram

[peak knot]

he has 16gbs of shared memory

[vivid pendant]

It has 8 gigs dedicated so that's 8 on the card

[peak knot]

get k5 pro thermal putty and call it a day

[mortal mantle]

so it's taking a chunk from RAM

[vivid pendant]

How dangerous to a CPU and GPU is both of them running at 125°c + simultaneously

[empty quartz]

Just gonna leave this here :3

[lapis condor]

@boreal vine also selling my 9800x3d so im dailying the 4124p again lol

[empty quartz]

No, its dynamic, only uses shared if it needs to

[peak knot]

i mean your thermal throttling and probably should be at thermal shutdown, id be willing to say thats rma on warranty level

[strange atlas]

how is it gonna turn into a pad :d

[empty quartz]

@peak knot rate the 0 effort oc

[peak knot]

thermal putty replaces pads

[mortal mantle]

also how can I use 32 GB of ram with the iGPU enabled (but not used)

[vivid pendant]

It was not throttling. They both were at max clock speeds for the chips and drawing max rated power

[empty quartz]

Huh

[vivid pendant]

Should have throttled but it didn't

[peak knot]

card?

[empty quartz]

Rx 6800 with a bykski water block

[peak knot]

were you running something like throttlestop?

[vivid pendant]

Nope

[peak knot]

seems decent

[vivid pendant]

Sea of thieves 🙂

[peak knot]

i gotta fix my ES 6900xt

[mortal mantle]

(iGPU used for transcoding so it is unused 99.99% of the time)

[peak knot]

its running safe mode for some reason

[vivid pendant]

Yeah I repasted the laptop and temps.went from that to mid 70s

[empty quartz]

That did not answer my question

[vivid pendant]

But I'm wondering how much damage it running at those temps for however long did

[peak knot]

so you did repaste it and lower temps

[vivid pendant]

Yep

[empty quartz]

@mortal mantle the igpu being enabled doesnt just use up your ram

[peak knot]

when i said repaste it you replied as though that didnt fix it

[vivid pendant]

But if I don't keep it clock locked to below 3ghz for CPU I crash in anything after 5-20 minutes

[mortal mantle]

it kinda does

[empty quartz]

No

[vivid pendant]

GPU is clock locked and power locked by 50% on both

[peak knot]

i mean you probably degraded it, thats what heat does

[mortal mantle]

on my previous pc it had 12GB of ram usable 11GB

[rigid fjord]

really dangerouse, you'd be thermal throttling for sure, it should thermally shut down the moment it hits 105-115c

[vivid pendant]

I haven't crashed in a week now like this

[mortal mantle]

1GB for the iGPU

[gritty grove]

Is it dumb to believe that Amazon sellers should sell at MSRP? eBay or whatever, IDC. But Amazon, MSRP.

[vivid pendant]

It didn't shut down lmao

[empty quartz]

Unless you’re using your igpu as the display out, it doesnt use vram @mortal mantle

[vivid pendant]

That's why I'm terrified I have a gigabyte RTX 5090

Their laptop did this what will a 5090 do xD

[frail delta]

?

[peak knot]

you damaging your components by not maintaining them by keeping an eye on your temps doesnt equate to a poor product

[gritty grove]

Is it dumb to believe that Amazon sellers should sell at MSRP? eBay or whatever, IDC. But Amazon, MSRP.

[vivid pendant]

It's always run hot 90+

[peak knot]

like cars and such you gotta maintain them regularly

[empty quartz]

@vivid pendant at this point just remove the drive and send the craptop to your local electronics recycling

[peak knot]

90C is fine

110+ isnt

[frail delta]

That doesn't help

[mortal mantle]

so it's just not using system ram? (as the RX Vega 56 is being used for everything except transcoding)

[vivid pendant]

Thermal paste that dries after 1 year is poor

Especially in a high end laptop

[peak knot]

many paste do that

[gritty grove]

How?

[empty quartz]

That is what i said

[vivid pendant]

And many don't

[peak knot]

high end paste requires more changes

[gritty grove]

It's a simple question.

[empty quartz]

I can confirm

[vivid pendant]

The lack of thermal throttling is another issue

[peak knot]

most of the paste i run require repasting every 6 months

[rare musk]

ptm:

[vivid pendant]

It didn't slow clocks ever. Why?

[empty quartz]

Probably user error

[mortal mantle]

does quicksync not use VRAM

[vivid pendant]

What's the user error?

[empty quartz]

It does

[vivid pendant]

That should be baked into the drivers and motherboard which I can't change anything on

[mortal mantle]

just noticed the iGPU VRAM is unused while transcoding

[peak knot]

havent used it, kingpin sponsors my paste

[rare musk]

sick

[empty quartz]

@rare musk ptm would suck ass for what fzr does

[vivid pendant]

Why would any CPU and GPU not lower their power draw at those temps and down clock

[mortal mantle]

definitely not using the RX Vega 56 for it

[frail delta]

Why do you expect Amazon sellers to list at MSRP/RRP?

[vivid pendant]

Like genuinely

[drowsy flame]

Heads up, 5800X on sale from Best Buy. $180

[vivid pendant]

I want to know what could stop this

[peak knot]

vince has sent me 1-2 tubes

[gritty grove]

Because it's Amazon and they should be held to a higher standard. And that means charging the correct price.

[vivid pendant]

So I don't lose anything on my new build.

[frail delta]

Tech is very low margin, and Amazon charges very high fees

Amazon isn't the one selling it (in most cases)

[rare musk]

ranch sauce is it then

[peak knot]

setting limits in bios, stock limits are normally fine

[frail delta]

Amazon is just a marketplace, like ebay

[gritty grove]

So? It's sold on Amazon isn't it?

[vivid pendant]

I've seen plenty of reviews of the kpx saying it's fine after yeas

[empty quartz]

Warranty it, or trash it.

[vivid pendant]

Yeah uh. I have 0 access in this bios

[frail delta]

Sold on, not sold by

[peak knot]

yeah, no

[empty quartz]

Wanna send me a tube :3

[vivid pendant]

Most I can do is disable the track pad

[peak knot]

KPX has a pretty nasty pump out at ambient

[vivid pendant]

It screwed itself right outside the warranty period

[peak knot]

i cant i used all of it

[vivid pendant]

Went to gigabyte about it these are their words

[frail delta]

If you don't like a store's pricing, do you complain to the shopping centre?

[empty quartz]

Shit out of luck

[vivid pendant]

"Your fucked buy a new one"

I tried to argue and they litteraly said fuck you

[empty quartz]

Ngl, i almost said that jokingly

[peak knot]

they didnt say "fuck you" literally

[gritty grove]

I mean look at this 4090. I hope whoever the seller is goes through a horrible divorce where their spouse takes everything including the kids if there are any, and forces the seller to pay child support, leaving the seller with no money to buy things to scalp.

[vivid pendant]

I went through a whole thing reporting it

Got told off in their official discord too

[neat flame]

2020 gpu prices

[frail delta]

Okay bud?

[vivid pendant]

I was like hey what's wrong with my laptop I've tried these troubleshooting steps

[peak knot]

lol if you sent me the whole conversation with the techs info i could make it see people

[gritty grove]

People who scalp deserve misery, and depression.

[frail delta]

You're always.... very angry Racc

[strange atlas]

Is there anybody in here uses ryzen 5 5600 with stock wraith cooler

[peak knot]

im friends with the USA marketing director of gigabyte

[vivid pendant]

As far as I'm aware the person I did speak too no longer works there now

This conversation was 8 months back

[empty quartz]

Saw this cool thing today :3

[gritty grove]

I'm angry at scalpers robbing people of their money and/or the ability to use a good PC.

[peak knot]

laserdisc.... neat

[vivid pendant]

Recently like past 3-4 months
Gigabyte offical discord server I got told after about 3-4 questions on what I said I already tried

"Edge case buy a new one"

[gritty grove]

I will not stop being mad until every scalper is made an example of.

[frail delta]

There are much more important things you could be angry about 🙂

[gritty grove]

Make them fear scalping.

[vivid pendant]

May I friend you if I have PC/overclocking questions

[peak knot]

gigabyte ed in that server is my main gigabyte contact

[gritty grove]

Building a computer should be for everyone. Scalpers ruin it.

[vivid pendant]

Was a server staff that basically told me yeah it's fucked buy another one

[frail delta]

Oh buddy, your priorities...

[vivid pendant]

So here I am 5090 lmao

[peak knot]

i dont accept friend request normally, i use this account for work and have a bajillion friends request as im also admin of the overclocking discord

[neat flame]

yea but not everyone buys a 4090

[rigid fjord]

he let the anger fester from other stuff

[vivid pendant]

May you invite me to said discord?

[strange atlas]

What happens if i use thermal paste on where thermal pads should go?

[empty quartz]

@peak knot gigglebyte

[gritty grove]

There's three words I wanna say about them that they should do, but I'm not allowed to say them.

[vivid pendant]

Do you have any information on the thermals of the gigabyte gaming OC 5090?

[empty quartz]

Im 1/2 canadians who bought this /j(ltt is the other)

[vivid pendant]

Lol

[empty quartz]

They actually featured this board in one of their videos

[vivid pendant]

LTT featured the case I'm using the Haf 700 Evo

[peak knot]

LTT showed off several of my personal things lol

[vivid pendant]

Linus litteraly said we should only review cases people actually buy

Could I get an invite to the overclocking discord

[strange atlas]

any idea

[peak knot]

in fact im waiting on something to arrive to send LTT another care pack

[gritty grove]

That's just an extreme example. Here's the cheapest 4070ti super on Amazon. Compare the B&H price with the Amazon one.

[peak knot]

check dms

[strange atlas]

And can anybody recommend me the cheapest good liquid cooler i wanna know how much more do you pay for it

[rigid fjord]

which size?

[strange atlas]

i dont know about them but i use r5 5600

[empty quartz]

@vivid pendant

[rigid fjord]

so a 240mm then

[vivid pendant]

Nice

[empty quartz]

Their balls to the walls mobo was this

[vivid pendant]

Are you sure they bought it?