tech-chat-1

[empty quartz]

tf are you talking about?

micron are the innovators of ssd's

[drowsy flame]

Personally I’m a western digital fan but doesn’t micron actually manufacture nand flash and ram chips? Like actually manufacturer the chips? If I’m correct there’s only a few companies that actually design and manufacture the whole chips. The rest just buy from them as suppliers. Micron, SK Hynix, Samsung, and a few others?

[gray ingot]

how am I supposed to compare my graphics card to other ones if its an oem card that an exact match cant be found anywhere online

[drowsy flame]

What card do you have?

[gray ingot]

a 2060 super

[drowsy flame]

You have the performance of a 3050 8bg card basically.

[empty quartz]

should perform similarly to normal 2060 super's

[gray ingot]

by pcpartner but not a zotac

[drowsy flame]

Actual board partner has far less to do with performance than you’d think

[clear canyon]

2060 super is far better

[drowsy flame]

I’m gonna press x to doubt

[gray ingot]

would comparing a founders edition be close enough?

[empty quartz]

you're confusing the 2060 super with a 1070ti

[steel umbra]

it does perform decently better than a 3050 8g though

[tropic lynx]

if you have high cpu temps can it be fixed only thru adjusting hardware?

[steel umbra]

in raster atleast

[clear canyon]

does not matter if u doubt, you're wrong

[gray ingot]

it seems to just have basic stats of other 2060 super's in gpuz

[clear canyon]

why not just get a better cooler

[gray ingot]

but I've done a pretty aggressive undervolt+overclock

[tropic lynx]

i’m just confused how it was working well for these few days except yesterdat

[steel umbra]

googlium exists yes

[tropic lynx]

it’s the hyper 212

[empty quartz]

@drowsy flame

[gray ingot]

sure makes me feel better about my card 🤣

[drowsy flame]

It’s a little closer to the regular 3060 it seems

[empty quartz]

literally just proved yourself wrong

[steel umbra]

it’s better than a 3050 8gb and 3060 8gb in raster though

[next zenith]

The innovators of amnesic nand storage frfr

[drowsy flame]

The gap between the 2060 and 2080 ti is the same ish gap as between the 3050 and 3060ti xD

[gray ingot]

this thing was constantly thermal throttling before i recently did an undervolt+overclock

[drowsy flame]

You should check what userbenchmark says

[clear canyon]

a 3060ti is a 2080 super

[dreamy plinth]

I download3d thr new drivers fot nvidia and my laptop just completely died

[dreamy plinth]

It aint tutning off the screen is black

[high elm]

lmao the beast of a 2060 super in my 2nd gaming pc

[dreamy plinth]

It makes no noise when i plug in or plug out my mouse

[empty quartz]

time spy?

[dreamy plinth]

Somebody please help

[high elm]

yup

[steel umbra]

they did some whopsies with gddr6 chips in the past and not all of their ram dies perform all that well, but that doesn’t make the whole company dumpster fire

[gray ingot]

i play way higher settings than that

[high elm]

theoretically my 2060 super beats a 3060 12gb

[drowsy flame]

A 2060 super is just a 1080ti wearing a fake mustache disguise

[clear canyon]

a 3060 is better than a 2060 super and slightly slower than a 2070

[drowsy flame]

Probably depends how much vram that task needs

[high elm]

idk somehow mine is slightly better in all benchmarks

[drowsy flame]

Also there is dlss to take into account here too. If enabled the 3060 12gb crushes a 2060 super

[high elm]

i think i just have a golden sample ngl

[high elm]

tbf the 2060 super also has DLSS

[steel umbra]

on average in raster even the 3060 12gb does beat the 2060s
more often the 2060s gets beaten vs 12gig 3060

[gray ingot]

I can play atomic Heart at 2560x1440 on max settings with motion blur and depth of field off and dlss on quality and RTX off

[clear canyon]

bad info

[gray ingot]

with nearly stable 60PFS

[high elm]

nice!

[drowsy flame]

Bragging about 50fps being good

[clear canyon]

on what gpu

[drowsy flame]

I’m dead

Deceased

[gray ingot]

was a typo i corrected to 60

[high elm]

good 4 u

[gray ingot]

2060 super

[drowsy flame]

Sureeeee, my uncle has a Lamborghini

[empty quartz]

:3

[drowsy flame]

Wait, I mean Ferrari

[high elm]

from a price point the 2060 super is a way better buy than a 3060 2nd hand

[clear canyon]

so you spread misinformation and you're an asshole, awsome combo dude

[high elm]

almost $100 cheaper

[clear canyon]

nice!

[crude zodiac]

hey i need a good gaming laptop recommendation, my budget is 1300$ cad

[drowsy flame]

Will be outdated sooner though

[drowsy flame]

MacBook M4

[bold sage]

Get a 2080ti for 300

[steel umbra]

anyways in raster (gaming) average
2070 ~ 3060 12g > 2060 super > 3060 8g > 1070 ti ~ 2060 ~ 3050 8g > 3050 6g

[empty quartz]

@high elm what gpu's do you have?

[clear canyon]

just shut up, no one should listen to you

[drowsy flame]

Okay boomer

[crude zodiac]

trying to go for windows haha

[gray ingot]

the card is old and I wanna repaste it and change its thermal pads and squeeze more out of it

[drowsy flame]

Oh yeah you didn’t specify, I mean, what are you gonna be using the laptop for?

[empty quartz]

sweet

[clear canyon]

oh nice, its evga

[high elm]

yessir EVGA the goat

[clear canyon]

@crude zodiac dont listen to IngovmeMistrust, dude is spreading alot of misinformation

[steel umbra]

evg

[drowsy flame]

Bruh shut the hell up

[empty quartz]

@high elm :3

[gray ingot]

i got it undervolted+overclocked to 1950MHz at 950Mv with +750MHz on the memory

[clear canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/hahaha-haha-funny-thats-that-gif-4676533

[drowsy flame]

If you don’t like what I say you’re free to tell him something different but mind your own fucking business

[steel umbra]

i can vouch +5 that @drowsy flame is spredin misinformationz 🤓

[empty quartz]

:(

[crude zodiac]

uhhh mostly stuff like cs2 valorant genshin, but i might play more stuff

[high elm]

oo what gpu is that an XTX?

[empty quartz]

nope

[clear canyon]

give correct information and we would not have this issue

[empty quartz]

just a reference rx 6800 with a bykski water block

[high elm]

it looks like some sort of sapphire card

[high elm]

o icic sick asf

[clear canyon]

very pretty pc dude

[empty quartz]

tyty

[gray ingot]

if i can get te card runnning a bit cooler i sold be able to squeeze out some more clock speed

[drowsy flame]

Easy games to run, buy a laptop with a 4060 that’s about to go on heavy discount when 50 series comes to laptops. I’d wait though. You’ll get better deals once the 50 series comes out

[rose stream]

Hmmm... What country you in and what does your market look like for laptops you can find right now that are within your budget range?

[empty quartz]

unfortunately, the loop takes at least 1.5L

[gray ingot]

and it shold stay stable if i give a wee bit more Mv

should be able to get over 2GHz at under 1V

[clear canyon]

might be able to achive that with better case fans or more

[drowsy flame]

Incorrect (in your opinion)

[empty quartz]

but because im a psychopath, i put filtered tap water in it :3

[clear canyon]

there is no opinion on facts, and you are not giving correct facts

[crude zodiac]

from canada, and havent really looked into laptop market, i was trying to find recommendations and start looking from there to see what i would prefer

[high elm]

my 2060 super does 2100MHZ @1 volt its voltage limited though

[gray ingot]

i already got my side panel off and a desk fan blowing in my case

[drowsy flame]

The day I start taking advice from someone who bought an NZXT kraken is the day I give up and sell my computers to go back to using a typewriter

[steel umbra]

there can be correct opinions that contain facts ✅
using wrong opinions as facts ❌

[gray ingot]

yeah i was thinking somewhere around there but shes just a bit too warm atm for that tyo be stable

[drowsy flame]

Keep your opinions to yourself my guy @clear canyon

[gray ingot]

it needs a repaste and new pads

[high elm]

i definitely have thermal headroom though mine maxes out at 59c

[gray ingot]

almost 5 years old and never been done

and its thermal throttles for most of its life during heavy load

[rose stream]

Mmm... Okay, so I guess we'll just see what's available there in your range then.
You said CS2, Valorant, Genshin, with the possibility of playing more. Actually, since it might help the scope a bit, what other games were you considering for later if you were to get this laptop right at this moment?

[steel umbra]

what a fallacy

[clear canyon]

its not an opinion on what you said, you are incorrect. "a 3050 8gig is better than a 2060 super" and so on

[drowsy flame]

Dlss.

[clear canyon]

yes but what im getting to is that the dude thinks what im saying is an opinion, and its not

[crude zodiac]

maybe elden ring and other triple a titles

[gray ingot]

damn thats chilly what brand? is it a 3 fan model?

[high elm]

its a 2 fan EVGA XC model

[steel umbra]

even if it was an opinion you still were correct so,

it was not though

[rose stream]

So mostly triple-A, eh?
Alright then, I'll try a look around then, maybe even link a few here per chance.

[drowsy flame]

It is your opinion that I am wrong. Until you can prove otherwise, shut the hell up. Thanks

[clear canyon]

no shit, 30 series has the newer dlss over 20 series, that's obvious and plus, ppl are talking about real peformance

[crude zodiac]

alright, thanks!

[gray ingot]

damn that must be one efficient cooler and prolly some high quality fans

[clear canyon]

just look up videos on it, a 2060 super will always outpeform a 3050 8gig

[drowsy flame]

You’re a moron. Just proved my point. “real performance” is subjective. Some people use dlss.

[formal sonnet]

DLSS or not, the 3050 8GB doesn't perform as well as an RTX 2060. I know, because I'm currently using a 2060 and have helped a friend build a system with a 3050 8GB card...

[gray ingot]

2060 super*

[clear canyon]

dude is too hardheaded to listen

[drowsy flame]

With DLSS turned on on both cards they’ll be about the same.

[clear canyon]

wrong

again

[clever sierra]

What is this

[clear canyon]

gpu dying

[gray ingot]

gpu death

[formal sonnet]

Both cards support DLSS - the only difference I've found is the 3050 does Frame Gen. Anywho, arguing is a waste of time. Everyone should buy the best card they can afford at the time that meets their needs.

[steel umbra]

rtx off

[drowsy flame]

Most reviewers and benchmarks leave dlss off. That’s why it seems like the 2060s could be close to a 3060 when in the real world under real use cases it’s more of a 3050

[rose stream]

Interesting. GPU's dying of course, or at least some part of it is. The pattern though... Looks like the underside of a carpet was placed in front of the camera almost. Lol.

[clear canyon]

the 3050 is the weakest RTX card you can get, it was still the slowest even before the 6gig version came out

[drowsy flame]

Turn on rtx and tell me how good your 2060 super is doing in 2025 m8

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-laugh-kek-intensifies-kek_intensifies-gif-10111909

[formal sonnet]

My RTX 2060 is doing great at 1440p60 🙂 especially for the games I play, which is all that matters.

[high elm]

3050 dosent do well either 💀

[gray ingot]

its holds up tbh

[clear canyon]

no one is running raytracing on a 2060, it sucked when it came out

[limpid dune]

actually I did find some benchmarks for 2060S RTX performance and it does pretty well

[gray ingot]

lower the settings and i can hold 60 np

[limpid dune]

in 2025. I mean, not full path tracing of course, but it's not bad

[clear canyon]

what games, all iv heard is that the 2060 can do rtx, but you shouldnt lol

[limpid dune]

Indiana Jones

[clear canyon]

oh, lmao

i forgot about that game

[drowsy flame]

When more games come out that require path tracing you’ll be real glad you saved some money getting a 2060 super over an3060 12gb on the used market

[gray ingot]

but I really don't see the difference is most scenes in Atomic Heart at least and i notic te settins drop more

[limpid dune]

it's not bad actually, I've been forced at gunpoint to play it because I bought a 4080S.
pros: beautiful, pretty fun, lots of little secrets
cons: linear storytelling, plot doesn't make much sense

[clear canyon]

@drowsy flame https://youtu.be/COsMl7vrbmQ?si=PmJ0OgnVgohFI_W-

[limpid dune]

brother, neither a 2060 Super nor a 3050 is going to be full path tracing in the real world. You're not going to convince anyone here by being sassy, the best way to convince people is to post benchmarks

[rose stream]

Okay, so I can't find anything individually that I could confirm as the best picks and for some reason $1300 choices don't show up for whatever reason, mostly under $1500 budget ranges keep popping up instead, so I'm gonna have to do... This.
https://www.laptopmag.com/best-picks/best-gaming-laptops-under-1500

[gray ingot]

i got it in a not the best prebuilt during the chip shortage so it was a good deal and not a good deal at the same time

[iron glen]

tc1 looks fun

whats the topic?

[rose stream]

This is kind of the latest multi-laptop review I could find that everyone here can just pick apart for you and whatnot, if they feel like it, and maybe we'll see which one is a better pick out of them all.

[limpid dune]

technically I do hold an overclocking record for the Ryzen 7000 iGPU ray tracing, though

[clear canyon]

we have a dude spreading misinformation and getting pissed when we call him out on it

[crude zodiac]

thanks! ill look through and see

[limpid dune]

the usual

I was actually playing CS2 on my iGPU but my computer blackscreened, so that's fun

[storm jasper]

Eh

[clear canyon]

what happened?

[drowsy flame]

@clear canyon

[gray ingot]

I upgraded my cpu cooler yesterday

i was in here asking for advice cause i wasnt sure if it would work out

[clear canyon]

so?

[limpid dune]

little known fact, the Ryzen 7000/9000 iGPU can be overclocked from 2.2GHzto ~2.9GHz with no voltage boost, IF the memory frequency is at least double the iGPU frequency (otherwise bottlenecks). It actually makes for a decent 1080p 60hz CS2 at minimum-ish settings

[copper swallow]

I'm building a NAS. I made this list a couple years ago, but I'm wondering if there are better APU, memory, and motherboard options out there now. All this NAS has to do is act as a seedbox + media server (plex), so it's not that intensive tasks.

Back then I chose Ryzen 5 3400G because it's an APU.

Here is the list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TRhyqH

[drowsy flame]

Turn dlss on and run those tests again. You’re coping so hard for your 2060 super right now kek

[gray ingot]

idk im always seeing the 2060 super benchmarked at 1080p

[clear canyon]

no one benchmarks with dlss, its not an accurate representation of the performance bc of ai upscaling, it will not be 1:1

[gray ingot]

it preforms better at 1440 for me

[rose stream]

Ah, I totally forgot about that.
Blame those two, being the least helpful people here right now.
Which cooler did you put on btw?

[high elm]

its a 1080p card

[gray ingot]

litteraly bottlenecked at 1080p

[limpid dune]

question: why an APU, and why the 3000 series?

[clear canyon]

no? I also dont run a 2060

[drowsy flame]

Whomp whomp

[tropic lynx]

guys i need help the monitor screen is black and the mobo light is VGA

[limpid dune]

grapigs garb

[formal sonnet]

I love the performance gains not having DLSS enabled gets me. It's great to not require an upgrade. Except in a few games where DLSS actually increases performance... 🤣 Horizon Forbidden West runs a lot better than expected once I dialed in the settings. Until then, I was set on buying a newer card.

[rose stream]

Is it plugged into your graphics card or your motherboard?

[tropic lynx]

grapphics card

[drowsy flame]

Oh yeah I forgot that you overpaid for a 4080

[clear canyon]

dude is just being an issue, he is very annoying -_-

[tropic lynx]

the gpu damaged?

[limpid dune]

we should have this flashbang on people's screens before they open this chat

[rose stream]

Reseat the card, check for sag, go from there.

[tropic lynx]

alright

[gray ingot]

replaced a stock intel oem cooler (or at least it looked like stock intel no intel sticker though) with DeepCool AK400

[clear canyon]

how do you know I overpaid? what proof?

[drowsy flame]

Exactly, it’s not important for everyone but it does make a difference when turned on. 30 series dlss was miles better than on 20 series. Been trying to explain to this dude that my “misinformation” is actually just benchmarks usually having dlss turned off.

[rose stream]

And please don't do what the receptionist (I sadly forgot her name and potentially her role in LTT) and pull it out of the slot while the system is on.

[drowsy flame]

Because it was definitely more than $734.58

[high elm]

lmao 734.58 for what an XTX?

[drowsy flame]

4080 super

[high elm]

2nd hand?

[drowsy flame]

New

[clear canyon]

https://youtu.be/k6n7V31lk3A?si=XRFaWHuAE8EGqYzb

2060 super still beats a 3050

[tropic lynx]

can i turn it off with powebhtton as monitor is blank

[high elm]

eh whatever its only a few hundred dollars

[clear canyon]

with dlss

[rose stream]

Power button, switch on the psu, whichever works.

[tropic lynx]

and yestefsy i’ve had problems with the pc freezing,unresponsive, choppy audio so will a reseat help/ is gpu problem

[clear canyon]

just bc the technology is newer, does not mean its better smh

[gray ingot]

so hypothetically what would I upgrade to (not that i can) for a meaningful performance boost at a reasonable price for said upgrade

[rose stream]

That's... A lot of problems, wow.
I mean... Try it, see if it does anything useful in this case?
And if anything persists, well you might have to troubleshoot a bit for multiple things I guess and just knock 'em out one by one if that's what it takes.

[tropic lynx]

Yeah man i’m sad it was working nice a few days and it was a prebuilt

[high elm]

your build is really balanced rn so i wouldnt upgrade it

[rose stream]

[gray ingot]

I'd check seating of gpu and ram sticks

[tropic lynx]

alright

[gray ingot]

not even hypothetically?

[tropic lynx]

i don’t reallly hear a click when i put the gpu in

[rose stream]

Why does that say so much more to me than everything you just described that was wrong with it? Damn.

[tropic lynx]

i think cuz the word prebuilt 😅

[gray ingot]

are you making sure the lock is engaging?

[tropic lynx]

yes

[high elm]

personally i wouldnt unless you really feel like you need it

[royal crest]

Anyone know how to update bios With a usb drive I’m trying to fix my monitor it says no signal

[gray ingot]

i dont

[high elm]

cuz my 13900K/4080 build will prolly last me almost a decade

and theres no point upgrading

cuz it feels good

[gray ingot]

I'm wondering what the hypothetical upgrade from this card is that makes the most sense value wise

[high elm]

yeah then keep your current pc until it really feels to slow for your games

[high elm]

what cpu do you have though

[gray ingot]

an i7 9700 non k

[high elm]

o then i’d upgrade your cpu first

[gray ingot]

that wont be for a while like until the thing dies pretty much

it is almost 5 years old though

[rose stream]

With an AK400 on it, that's actually not so bad for a cooler upgrade at least.

[high elm]

yea thats good enjoy your pc to the fullest till it eventually dies

[gray ingot]

and isnt the highest qulaity prebuilt to begine with

i almsot killed the thing a while ago

[rose stream]

Definitely better than the stock cooler I bet, right?

[gray ingot]

i dropped a nerf gun on it

[high elm]

💀

[rose stream]

[gray ingot]

and the sound went all glitchy and staticky the refresh rate got crunched to shit and then a light blue hue started descending down from the top to the bottom of the screen

[rose stream]

[gray ingot]

it scared the shit out of me and I powered it down immediately before the descending blue doom got the chance to reach the bottom

then I unplugged it checked check the gpu and ram seating made sure stuff was snugg not pyscally damaged from what i could see

prayed plugged it in and powered it up

[upbeat osprey]

anyone has 5060 for $500

[gray ingot]

i hung on its post

boot looped

preformed an update

then restarted posted and booted to windows

[vivid pendant]

If I was to buy a stick of DDR5 RAM If I was to let's say remove all the DDR5 memory modules would the light still work? Like the RGB?

[gray ingot]

and then also a while ago when i was most recently cleaning my gpu i accidentally ripped a wire out of the 4 pin connector when trying to unplug its fans 😱

[upbeat osprey]

$200 light sticks🔥

[vivid pendant]

Ddr5 really doesn't like quad channel it stresses the memory controller on the CPU and motherboard but I still want fast snappy ram

[upbeat osprey]

there is dummy ram sticks that just light up that you can buy

[gray ingot]

luckily i was able to repair it but omfg it was so finicky cause the wire and pin thing were so small

[vivid pendant]

Not for Corsair vengeance ddr5 RGB

They got recalled because they wouldn't power on

[gray ingot]

but I eventually got it and it worked fine thankfully

hmmmm i really dont know

i dont if it would even be safe for the system

[clear canyon]

quad channel? no, they dont like having all 4 sticks filled and to run at fast speeds

[gray ingot]

cause it would be trying to access something but there would be no chips to access

[delicate zodiac]

Any ideas on what to put in the description when selling a computer? Full specs, photos, game benchmarks, anything else?

[clear canyon]

post a video of it running

thats about it

[tidal geyser]

Cheese

[tidal geyser]

I would totally have no clue

[limpid dune]

banana (ATX motherboard for scale)

[clear canyon]

NO WAY!!

[gray ingot]

mention absolutely everything wrong with it even the slightest tiniest imperfection

[tidal geyser]

Give me a moment to wake up and then get the computa running then I can give some tips

https://tenor.com/view/awake-im-awake-im-up-waking-up-just-waking-up-gif-17567905378229855665

[clear canyon]

its 2:15am for me

[true stirrup]

He probably takes away half your health bar with one swing lol

[gray ingot]

3:12am here

[tidal geyser]

9 am for me

I got like 6hrs of sleep

[clear canyon]

why

you need only 2

[gray ingot]

stop bragging

[random gyro]

No every hit 2 shots and his heavier hits 1 shot even with 99 on health, and armor

[next zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/fr-lie-gif-9063740662564569899

[true stirrup]

Damn that's maxed out Radahn for you

[tidal geyser]

Rtx 2000

[clear canyon]

put a 3090 in it like ltt did

[tidal geyser]

Also shit I forgot to check what chips my 2080s use

[misty sluice]

meh nah

[next zenith]

The Crucial P1

[misty sluice]

I don’t do that sleeper stuff with the hot wheels computer

I want to keep it restored to its original glory yk

however I do have a somewhat sleeper, using components that are several years older

[clear canyon]

5090

[misty sluice]

even has an sd card reader

[gray ingot]

must have been so cool to have one of those back in the day

[misty sluice]

I bet

[gray ingot]

were they an decently high end pc back then

[misty sluice]

no

[gray ingot]

hmm

[misty sluice]

they were standard, but a lot of them failed in the production line

[gray ingot]

unfortunate

[misty sluice]

50% had bad power supplies

among other issues

and even after manufacturing ceased, the company accepted orders and totally lost everything

[gray ingot]

would been awesome if it had top of the line gaming hardware it it at the time

[misty sluice]

as Linus would describe it, ncix like

[gray ingot]

but i bet thats what people did with them even back then

[misty sluice]

I mean I think the fact it’s very small it’s pretty impressive but besides that it’s just trash, components wise

the intel BP810, aka the motherboard doesn’t always work great

mine has issues and I just had to fix it

[gray ingot]

word

that what you get when a toy company decides to brand a pre built pc

[misty sluice]

mine might also be the first one to connect to the internet in over 20 years

[gray ingot]

...what internet?

dial up?

[buoyant sedge]

What are some good budget nano leaf alternatives?

[gray ingot]

idk maybe something homemade?

[tidal geyser]

ok lets start from the top, what i like to do is first fully clean the computer take it apart and clean every nook and cranny to make the case and other parts look like new then replace the thermal paste on the cpu and gpu if needed, then i put it all back and make the front end look perfect and try my best on the back but since its not the place you look at its not really a place you need to make perfect.

for the description you should add EVERY part in the pc then you can add how much fps you get with certain settings in games and if you have the ability to record a youtube video thats best, the pictures should have mostly only the computer as the main focus.

examples of how i do it
youtube video https://youtu.be/z6LGfEIH328

this is a norwigian only used market place.

also look at the difference after a good clean

[gray ingot]

gross!

but nice cleaning job 👍

[gray ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/ew-brotha-gif-9546601117073941825

[thin plover]

wow

the cola pc

[tidal geyser]

the motherboard was soaked and umm yeah no thats not alive anymore

but everything else survived

[limpid dune]

question: AM5 and whatever tf the Intel socket is, they both have ~1700 pins, which is pretty close to 2011. LGA-2011 was able to fit quad-channel memory though... so why no quad-channel memory on platforms like AM5?

[tidal geyser]

money

[limpid dune]

does DDR5 really require every other pin to be shielded or something?

[inland canopy]

unreliability?

[tidal geyser]

possible too

[inland canopy]

Ddr5 isnt reliable in quad channel

[tidal geyser]

a few weeks ago my server went from 96GB to 64GB or something

i needed to reaset the ram sticks and cpu and then it worked again and i got all my 96GB

and this is ddr4

[limpid dune]

actually AM5 kinda makes sense because even setups like DDR5-6000 can easily overload infinity fabric at stock clocks

and okay, I guess Intel isn't really in a position to set new standards here

okay well I guess it makes sense then

[steel umbra]

Buy intel stock rn or nah

[sacred valve]

no

(not financial advice)

and what does intel even have coming anyway

[tidal geyser]

o boy

[limpid dune]

I'm tempted to buy intel stock, but their future CPU roadmap shows that they are going to downgrade their future fab process from the TSMC that they're using now back to their in-house silicon. which is the stupidest thing I've heard in a long time

[sacred valve]

intel has pissy margins, few upcoming products, losing market share

[limpid dune]

somewhere in the next two generations, at least

if they can optimize arrow lake it might end up being goated though. But then they're gonna kill it off for no reason and go back to in-house silicon. I'm so confused

[sacred valve]

deksotp arrow lake has alreayd proven to be a disaster; waiting for laptop arrow lake-hx benchmarks but it doesn't seem to be too impressive

if anything it'll be like 14900hx but slightly toned down on that power draw

maybe 15% higher multicore

although 14900hx being an old architecture, you would've expected more after so many years 😭

[limpid dune]

arrow lake is, gaming-wise, a disaster... but it shows a lot of potential when you look at synthetic benchmarks

they must have goofed up the interconnect structure or something

[misty sluice]

I have this same case lol

[sacred valve]

true, though I think real-world usage is a bit more important than synthetic results?

[misty sluice]

however mine is ibuypower branded

[limpid dune]

real-world usage is "meh", not good but not as bad as you'd expect, especially in productivity applications

[sacred valve]

that's reassuring at least

I wonder what AMD will name next gen CPUs

[limpid dune]

it actually has very impressive FP performance (intel unified math scheduler RAAAH 💪 )

[sacred valve]

11950x?

[limpid dune]

Ryzen AI Mega Doobie Fartcake 11950XTXX3D

[sacred valve]

💀 haha

"max+ pro" still gives me nightmares

iphone naming but worse

[thick iris]

what do you guys think of the setup so far and any reccomendations

[random gyro]

what are your pc specs?

[thick iris]

too old 😭

im running a 8700 and a 1050 ti

[sacred valve]

lack of mouse tracking space no?

[thick iris]

probably will look into getting a new computer sometime before uni

[sacred valve]

I mean I use 500 DPI so I'm one to speak but that still looks liek not enough space

[thick iris]

its enoughfor me

[sacred valve]

looks fine

[thick iris]

i use high sens

[sacred valve]

wait

is that a notch on your monitor

[thick iris]

no

webcam

[sacred valve]

ok you scared me for a second 😂

[thick iris]

only downside is only one of my monitors is vesa compatible so no clue what to do lol

[sacred valve]

is or is not?

[thick iris]

one is compatible

one isnt

[sacred valve]

oops I just went dyslexic for a second

[thick iris]

should i do a stacked monitor

[sacred valve]

I mean as long as it works

I stacked an old screen on a couple yearbooks and a textbook for a year

[thick iris]

like one with the normal stand no arm at the bottom

and then wall mount the other one above it

[sacred valve]

no need to get too complex I think

[shell arrow]

A portable 16 inch 4k monitor has 30 more ppi then an 8k 32 inch 🙏

[sacred valve]

as long as you can finesse it into a good viewing angle then it's fine

[shell arrow]

One is 8k dollars the other is 600 (oled)

[thick iris]

the thing isthe monitor arms probably more epxnsive than the monitor itself (vesa compatible one)

[gray ingot]

55inch 4k 😎

[thick iris]

its a 1440x900 75 hz do you guys think its worth mounting it

[gray ingot]

(downscaled to 2560x1440)

[sacred valve]

well to be fair anything above 250 is pretty much the same at any sane viewing distance right

I can't tell the difference between my 14" macbook pro and my friend's razer

(ppi)

[shell arrow]

A 150 ppi monitor is literally perfect i cant see no pixels imagine 283 ppi

[sacred valve]

definitely

150 is fine with good posture and a healthy viewing distance

I have terrible posture and I'm blind so I sit kind of close 💀

[shell arrow]

Well its a portable monitor so ur prolly gonna get close

[sacred valve]

oh a portable monitor?

yeah then 283ppi is fantastic

[shell arrow]

Imagine a zeph 16 with thise connextable monitor mounts then u get 2 oled 4k monitors then now its literally perfect

Actually perfect

Triple oled

[sacred valve]

ahhh I'd just spend more on the system itself than the monitors

2 4k OLED + a g16 and that's easily edging on 4-5k USD

[shell arrow]

Well if ur a millionaire and a clllege student i guess but their are no millionaire college students so i shkuld not guess

[sacred valve]

for sure for sure

[shell arrow]

A g16 might be like 4k the mount might me 100 the 2 monitors will be 1200 so 5300

[sacred valve]

after my undergrad I'm gonna stuff an 80-90 class card (or radeon if thye're good too) into a mini itx case

[still valve]

My new used headphones

[tidal geyser]

well that ssd needs to be RMAd or replaced

[upbeat osprey]

sound:0:2

[thick iris]

woould a 8700 and a 1050 ti be able to handle e-sport titles at 2k?

[eternal cloak]

Depends what eSports title, but generally yes

[next ferry]

Anyone into Linux and stuff here?

[quick hamlet]

Bro nvidia app is so trash whenever new driver comes I click on install,it downloads and then once done instead of installing it starts downloading,and the cycle goes on

[high elm]

i just dont use it

[next ferry]

How many partitions do I need to make while installing Linux?

[tidal geyser]

the 8700G would be faster then the 1050 ti

[tidal geyser]

not sure maybe linux might https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/899753979108552774

[eternal cloak]

Overall pretty little assuming you don't download anything

Probably one or two hundred megabytes an hour

[floral obsidian]

is this https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Gaming-B650-Plus-Motherboard-Socket-Memory/dp/B0BHJKR3BV a good replacement for my gigabyte b650 aorus elite which developed coil whine and I'm returning it to amazon?
I have two m2 drives that need a heatsink, a 7800x3d, bt headphones, 2x16gb corsair expo and should support 7 million pixels@144 hz, which is a bit less than 4k. Also if i'd buy it, where should I connect the aio pump, to CPU_FAN or to the AIO_PUMP slot?

for some reason it says it doesn't support my ram despite it supporting my cpu.
RAM: CMK32GX5M2D6000Z36
memory supported: https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-b650-plus-wifi/helpdesk_qvl_memory?model2Name=TUF-GAMING-B650-PLUS-WIFI

[steel umbra]

Somethin wong with my 6900xt it just underperforms and i haev no idea 🐒

Tried flashing it, ddu, whatever

[terse sorrel]

Everything came in @tidal geyser

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-neco-arc-melty-blood-gif-26530064

[opal lotus]

what would you guys say is better than a 3070 but is similar in price?

[steel umbra]

I'll try olders drivers

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/rugby-yay-gif-3156747878755757137

[tidal geyser]

rx 6700 xt or rx 6750 xt

[tidal geyser]

try 24.8

[opal lotus]

any nvidia products better than the 3070 but similar?

[tidal geyser]

do you use CUDA or tensor cores for anything?

[opal lotus]

im usually a fortnite player and ive heard that amd isnt the best for fortnite cuz of frame drops

[steel umbra]

Yh after i install the last driver with which i didn't experience the perf issue

A loss of 15% for some reason

[tidal geyser]

bit hard to believe

[tidal geyser]

and temps are normal

[steel umbra]

yep

[tidal geyser]

as i am getting over 500 fps at low dx 12 with my pc

[opal lotus]

its mainly in performance mode (3070 beats 6700xt in perform mode because of the frame drops)

but in dx12 6700xt is better but it has less fps

[tidal geyser]

i never have any frame drops

[opal lotus]

u play performace or dx12?

[tidal geyser]

also performance mode looks like ass

[frail topaz]

hows the antec c5?

[tidal geyser]

well performance mode looks like ass

[tidal geyser]

good but a bit pricey, cheaper options can be the montech xr but its up to you what you wish to do

[opal lotus]

not really i used play on a gtx 1060 perform mode so im used to it

[opal lotus]

so u play dx12?

[frail topaz]

i see you remember me, how are ya sim

[thin plover]

sim do u know if there's a successor to the arctis nova pro

[steel umbra]

I love hardware

[thin plover]

the nova pro just had a massive price drop

[steel umbra]

First my 3060 ti bricks itself after a driver update, then 6800 shorts itself

And now dis 🎊

[frail topaz]

ouch.

[thin plover]

yum

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-yes-check-yes-checkmark-yes-checking-yes-gif-17016402979197551350

[thin plover]

time for a 5090

[opal lotus]

lmao

[tidal geyser]

maybe soon

[steel umbra]

I bet it will explode with my luck

[tidal geyser]

anyways even at dx 12 you will max out your monitors refresh rate with the 6700 or 6750 xt

[thin plover]

the price just dropped 50 euros 2 days ago

I'm so tempted to buy it

[opal lotus]

how much fps do u get?

[steel umbra]

Downloaded ancient 24.5.1 drivers lemme see

[opal lotus]

cuz my monitor is 300hz

[tidal geyser]

you mean hz?

[opal lotus]

i also play valorant and other games

[opal lotus]

my bad, yeah

[tidal geyser]

there is not a lot of 300hz monitors out there what is the name of yours?

[opal lotus]

its 240fps with a hdmi and 300fps with a dp

[random gyro]

@opal lotus what specs are your pc?

[opal lotus]

https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B0DPJVJ2RY/ref=ox_sc_act_image_9?smid=A3K6ILOC7CG10Z&psc=1

[steel umbra]

🔥

[tidal geyser]

oof

[random gyro]

how old are they?

[opal lotus]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/hMQZzP

[tidal geyser]

o well the 6750 or 6700 xt should be able to reach 300 fps in most of those games i would imagine

[opal lotus]

whats that?

[tidal geyser]

panel type

[opal lotus]

what does it do?

[tidal geyser]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/learn/ips-vs-va-vs-tn

[steel umbra]

Duh. Still performs the same

now what

[thin plover]

if you buy it rn I will uh

congratulate you

[opal lotus]

ohhh yeah

[steel umbra]

I'll hax into nvidia and make them ship me thousands of them

[tidal geyser]

what game are you testing and what are temps like

[thin plover]

can I have one of them for 2 euros and 57 cents

[opal lotus]

so ips is first right? what would va be?

[steel umbra]

Under 98c are hotspot temps in universe sandbox, i test rainbow six siege

and 3dmark seems to score low now too

even when i do the usual 2630mhz core and +140mhz mem

It scores way below average

Windows reinstall didn't help either

I'm gonna throw the card out the window because now i can't test TIM on it

[tidal geyser]

vram temps?

[tidal geyser]

not great

[opal lotus]

worser than tn?

[steel umbra]

Not throttling for sure

The card just out of blue started to underperform

[shrewd timber]

Will this run fine on a Pentium 4 I chose DirectX 9 and set everything to Ultra

[steel umbra]

Seemingly after i updated the drivers and swapped some ram again

[shrewd timber]

Will this work

Or should I lower it

[steel umbra]

Same in a different system...

It underperform and i have no idea why

[tidal geyser]

windows maybe?

[opal lotus]

should i try finding an ips?

[shrewd timber]

I got this warning when I first booted the game

[tidal geyser]

the display is fine

first run away from that 1060 then you can start to think about displays

[opal lotus]

alright

[steel umbra]

I even tried installing fresh windows 11 media

fixed nothing

[tidal geyser]

try using 10

[steel umbra]

I do

[tidal geyser]

is it bad at synthetics too?

[steel umbra]

Yes, it performs 15% worse in about everything gpu heavy

since the driver update

flashing vbios didn't help either

[strange atlas]

By the way you said a program to check like disk health and all what was the name of it

[tidal geyser]

crystal disk info

[steel umbra]

So ig something physically is wrong with my card...

[opal lotus]

just a question i know i should focus on the gpu but is there a difference in response time if the ips is 1ms and the va is 1ms?

[strange atlas]

Thank you

[tidal geyser]

that response time thingy is faked most of the time, if you want low response times its oled or nothing

[shell arrow]

Does low response time actually make a difference

[opal lotus]

oled 100% out of my budget so should i go for ips or va thats all i need to know now

[tidal geyser]

well you have a good monitor now

[shell arrow]

I recommend an asus proart 27 inch its a very good budgey ips monitor

[opal lotus]

i havent ordered it yet but is it good? or should i find a ips?

[shell arrow]

About 3k dollars

[tidal geyser]

what monitor have you been gaming on?

[opal lotus]

on a 120hz monitor

[strange atlas]

This is my ssd now @tidal geyser

its full clean

[opal lotus]

but it doesnt run past 100hz for technical reasons

[tidal geyser]

what have you been doing to it

[tidal geyser]

then a 240hz display will be plenty

[opal lotus]

aight so go for ips?

[strange atlas]

Nothing it was like this from the beginning

[shell arrow]

240 hz is actually like kinda unoticable

Same difference from 60 hz and 75 hz

[tidal geyser]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0C63HDHPR?tag=rtings-zz-mn-20&ie=UTF8

[shell arrow]

Va fucking sucks (well for budget ones)

[tidal geyser]

then it was not new

[opal lotus]

well my maxxed hz is 100 but in games i play it caps at 80 so idk

[strange atlas]

why

[opal lotus]

my old setup sucked

[shell arrow]

Most games ur gonna run wont exceed 100 fps

[tidal geyser]

what do you mean why, a new drive would be 100%

[tidal geyser]

wait what are the parts you have now

[opal lotus]

is this ips ?

[tidal geyser]

no wait yeah true you gave the list

[strange atlas]

but its been like 3 years and i've been heavily using it

[tidal geyser]

yes
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/27gr83q-b

[opal lotus]

i5-8400

[steel umbra]

i hope i’ll get it fixed somehow otherwise my test results are useless

[strange atlas]

Its sandisk 480gb ssd most of the people had problems with it apparently

[tidal geyser]

what in the name of hell did you use it for to get a 480GB sata ssd to 60TB read and write

[tidal geyser]

ok yeah not great

[strange atlas]

i use it daily i dont think its too much 😦

especially for 17000 hours i gotta be used enough

[tidal geyser]

just straight up what did you do with it

[opal lotus]

ive heard the aoc curved 240hz is good

[tidal geyser]

use rtings

[tidal geyser]

this is my OS drive that is used heavily

[strange atlas]

mostly used unity(software) on it

[strange atlas]

but this is top ssd though 980 pro

[tidal geyser]

not health

[inland perch]

nice pfp

[tidal geyser]

o well anyways replace it

fzr

hello

[peak knot]

your drive is at way more wear than my intel ssd with more reads/writes

[strange atlas]

one last question shoul i stop putting files on it?

[tidal geyser]

well there is a higher risk of coruption so yea

[frail topaz]

singal rbg

[tidal geyser]

xd

single rgb

[frail topaz]

Maybe rbg

Rgb naggh rbg better

[strange atlas]

huh no way its this good

[tidal geyser]

overclock the nvme

[peak knot]

ive been using this drive since 2018

[opal lotus]

is this good https://www.amazon.com.au/AOC-Gaming-25G3ZM-Monitor-FreeSync/dp/B0BGCG4NJM/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1JENJS7R6WR8H&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.k8IgTA4VbQ3849eI8PgWzt6cAmppjfmbpj9L44ENBPB128cjvOG6O8mGQVZGRoyqTks4asiBFBSoCobW-R1e0MLF2VDuSOpiP1hMM04Q8DzEzmnFmeKPegjaj7gcsdTjuiWTlhF1JJIsIZqiXJ79NqM0P7hq6DxEwrDPu7yAfqB-ehuzi8KNuT4sDVpDVxL9OeVTykvLPXLGYgFOzSiQapBokgfL6BHj170Q52ZyOnuZb6Uhbivjl3VsVauLNMUG8SlWC8lXcXGtP-5phkHw2wDfgoAJU-eUV-3ZFe7O_Xzlj2mGIdPF4f096-tiBA9BxedzHe7_MFeaFzmc0BjezEsyDmppb0kiGnwJa1h3xiIPeQCeZThUeB71YDOu_gVnltjbflRigbe3l4GdDFFvnmeL-dC_IRAUQCw5PTxxrfwCdIAskhLHFyoZrETjdm7D.1nt4sWQu6ELar-mIhbp0Jxoaw65wVXMwiWr0B88052Q&dib_tag=se&keywords=aoc%2Bcurved%2B240hz%2B-%2B0.5ms%2Bmonitor&qid=1738319138&sprefix=aoc%2Bcurved%2B24%2Caps%2C479&sr=8-4&th=1

[frail topaz]

jesus

[tidal geyser]

fyi fzr he does not even use his ssd for c

[opal lotus]

idk how to

[tidal geyser]

well most of its life

[steel umbra]

shorten link

[frail topaz]

thank you amazon

[strange atlas]

mine is since 2020 i think

[opal lotus]

lmao

[steel umbra]

undervolt!

[tidal geyser]

its a good moinitor https://forum.pcmonitors.info/topic/aoc-25g3zm-mini-review-impressions-motion-performance/

[strange atlas]

but my hard drive is in perfect shape though

i love WD man

[tidal geyser]

where is the other hdd

[strange atlas]

on top of ssd

[frail topaz]

i have 2 seagate drives 2 western digital and 2 kingston

[tidal geyser]

is it just unplugged

[steel umbra]

and if rtings doesn’t have the monitor you’re looking at check reviews that measure the response, motion clarity, color accuracy, etc…

[frail topaz]

the segate and wd are spinning rust and the Kingston is a400

[glass marsh]

is 64gb ram overkill?

[tidal geyser]

yes

for gaming

[steel umbra]

use case?

[strange atlas]

one of them unplugged for looks but this is my main hdd

[tidal geyser]

well not all games

[ashen kraken]

If you have to ask its probably overkill for you

[glass marsh]

Gaming streaming editing

[tidal geyser]

yes by a lot

[glass marsh]

Damn

[astral oasis]

Chat is this good

[strange atlas]

i was gaming streaming and editing with 8 gigs really fine

so do the math

[ashen kraken]

Modded games can bump you over 32gb, maybe even up in the 40gb+ range, but should be with a pagefile

[glass marsh]

So like

32gb is the sweet spot?

[ashen kraken]

Should be fine for most things yeah

[peak knot]

[strange atlas]

could heat damage the ssd my pc is always hot@tidal geyser

[glass marsh]

I just wanna play 4k games and I needed to know

[ashen kraken]

4K resolutions hits your vram more than your system ram

[strange atlas]

for me yes

[glass marsh]

So is 16 enough

[steel umbra]

for ddr5 ye

[strange atlas]

not in every scenario just get 32

[ashen kraken]

Can get some overflow if you run out of vram, but thats more in the 8-12gb vram range at 4k

[peak knot]

32/48gb is sweet spot for ddr5

[glass marsh]

No bro I meant like vram

[strange atlas]

HUH

good damn

[glass marsh]

I'm thinking of either getting a 7900xtx or a 4080 super

[frail topaz]

Guys is 128mb ram enough for 2025

[latent pasture]

48gb/96gb would be nice to recommend but ig supply and demand for 24gb denominations is bad bc theyre not priced correctly compared to 32/64/128

[astral oasis]

it’s more than enough

[steel umbra]

5080 is out, are are those not available to you?

or pricey $$$

[frail topaz]

im thinking its overkill maybe 64mb

[glass marsh]

I don't wanna get a 50 series card

[steel umbra]

why

[glass marsh]

The vrams low

[ashen kraken]

Fine for most games. There are a few games that can use more than 16gb with settings cranked to the max, but they'll manage with 16gb just fine

[astral oasis]

i would prob go for 32, 64 is useless since you’re not using 3/4 of it

[steel umbra]

5080 has the same amount of vram as 4080s, and 5080 has gddr7

[tidal geyser]

yes

[glass marsh]

Oh I must've got wrong news mb

[steel umbra]

does not make really difference for most tasks but it is newer

[latent pasture]

unless you can afford the 90 series, you wont be getting any more vram than 16
nvidia knows this and is exactly why they keep it at the top end

[strange atlas]

than i'm unlucky to have a computer thank you

[glass marsh]

I would go for the 7900xtx if it didn't have driver issues

[frail topaz]

okay 32mb ram and 4gb hdd with a intel 8086

[ashen kraken]

Both 5080 and 5070ti have 16gb vram

[tidal geyser]

what???

[latent pasture]

what driver issues
if anything 5080 made 7900xtx look pretty lol

[tidal geyser]

what driver issues

[lapis talon]

its always the RTX7600xt man

[steel umbra]

nvidia has the same amount of issues

[glass marsh]

Like I'm hearing alot of driver issues about the 7900xtx and people are returning them

[tidal geyser]

or more

[tidal geyser]

are they?

[glass marsh]

Hm

Yea

[steel umbra]

nvidia bricked my 3060 ti after a driver update on my system

[glass marsh]

Damn

[tidal geyser]

nvidia has had more issues then amd

[frail topaz]

gtx 1050 going strong

[glass marsh]

Man like the fg on Nvidia is just so good

[tidal geyser]

rtx voice made my friends pc randomly blue screen without stop until he used ddu

[strange atlas]

Why does discord gets stuck like this
(to information to give discord is banned in turkey but in the background as you can see i can use discord on web so my dns should work i dont know what the problem is)

[glass marsh]

Wish amd stepped up their game in the software side

[tidal geyser]

what

[ashen kraken]

They are both bad imo

[peak knot]

i cant use RTX voice even if i wanted due to my bios

[split lake]

im from turkey and the ban is dumb

[glass marsh]

Lmao intel GPUs then 😭🙏

[tidal geyser]

they have upscaling, frame gen and most of the features nvidia has

[tidal geyser]

what

[thick iris]

i7 not the amd chip

[astral oasis]

Holy you rich af

[glass marsh]

Comparatively like Nvidia is doing a better job

[peak knot]

price of dailying XOC BIOSs

[frail topaz]

fidelity eff eks

[ashen kraken]

Some people have no issues with their GPUs for years (like me), others ends up with cursed setups that corrupts drivers nonstop etc. Both Nvidia and AMD

[strange atlas]

yeah but like how am i gonna fix it i have the dns working but it doesnt update the app

[quasi field]

you gaming in 8k with a 5090 and a 9800x3d

[tidal geyser]

200$ more for worse performance and more buggy and bluescrening drivers

even if those driver issues are very rare on both sides

[glass marsh]

😭 nah bro I just want 4k

[frail topaz]

yeahhhh intel is so food

[split lake]

you are in turkey right ?

[strange atlas]

yes i am

[glass marsh]

istg this is so tough to decide

[split lake]

dm

[quasi field]

32 is far good enough imo... some people like 64... even though they use like 22... what im more mad about is vram....

[lethal bay]

FzR go to BED

[latent pasture]

what do u consider as handle

[tidal geyser]

its possible to find the 7900 xtx for 600 used

[quasi field]

vram in 2025 should be 20+ for 4k

[quasi field]

unlikely

[tidal geyser]

well i have seen a good few do it

[glass marsh]

It's not about the money it's about the performance between the two

[chilly inlet]

Guys I think Copilot is umm....

[peak knot]

https://tenor.com/view/lindybeige-lindy-beige-boss-dad-gif-18521275

[tidal geyser]

if its not about the money go for the 5090

[peak knot]

lol

[quasi field]

oof

[glass marsh]

Bro.

[lethal bay]

BED

[glass marsh]

I meant for those two cards it's not about the money

[quasi field]

bad advice

[calm idol]

but that would mean you wouldnt buy the 5090 or not upgrade for longer than you should (you should upgrade each new release) /s

[glass marsh]

I'm not that rich

[ashen kraken]

Replaced my silent vbios with a 1000w one as well, but its on a 4090 so its useless for daily

[peak knot]

are you on air

[quasi field]

you better be /s... something leather jacket guy would say LMAO

[ashen kraken]

Yup, cooler can handle 700w or so

[peak knot]

yeah you shouldnt be using the 1000W bios on air

[tidal geyser]

do you live in the arctic

[ashen kraken]

But my card is way too voltage starved, power does nothing pretty much.

[tidal geyser]

o you did not shunt it

[ashen kraken]

Would have to mod it to get any more clockspeed out of it anyways

[calm idol]

might wanna look at the end of that message if you are looking for a /s

[quasi field]

i saw it

[strange atlas]

@split lake Mate why did you remove me if you are looking for answer i was typing the answer till you remove me

Whatever man i dont get it

[ashen kraken]

Not too far from you iirc

Krsund

[tidal geyser]

wha norway boy?

[peak knot]

if you know what your doing you can push the card without mods using that vbios, and the 1000W on the stock cooler is bad as they remove some safeties and your risking it for nothing

[strange atlas]

Why does discord not boot itself man i'm tripping right now

i gotta use it but it doesnt let me

[ashen kraken]

Yeah, had no plans to use it for daily, just tested the aircooler

110c hotspot at around 720-750w on the TUF cooler. Gpu was at 85c or so

[tidal geyser]

wait did you mean karmsund or kristansund

[ashen kraken]

Kristiansund

[peak knot]

@lethal bay can tell you i can push the cards pretty hard

[latent pasture]

mfw 5090 is doing close to that stock, and they purposely hid some of the temp sensor so ppl dont cringe

[tidal geyser]

dam well still cool your in norway

[tidal geyser]

rumors are that the hot spot can be like 160c

[ashen kraken]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633472896315949091/1334531684590157895/2.png?ex=679cdefc&is=679b8d7c&hm=efd94e5141dcadfb9b05d86ed3a13c51a403cbcbbb8ce4c0582a36e50b1bd3cf&

This is the Aorus Master 5090 iirc

Pretty nice temps, a cool 69c

At like 640w board power

[peak knot]

this yours?

[ashen kraken]

Core power readout if bugged

[ashen kraken]

Nah, got some numbers from someone who has access to some cards

[latent pasture]

transient.jpeg

[astral oasis]

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/vvV7pK

best/most important upgrades?

[tidal geyser]

a yes only 900w

[latent pasture]

what ram

[astral oasis]

Holy i forgot to put it

[tidal geyser]

this makes me sad

[astral oasis]

16gb ddr4, don’t know the exact thing

[calm idol]

5700x3d is an easy one

[latent pasture]

also those parts seem fine, so instead name a specific thing u want a performance upgrade in ig

[tidal geyser]

original hotbox case

[astral oasis]

I just put a random 500gb ssd lmao, not home rn so idk

[tidal geyser]

welp 5700X3D and like a 7800 XT or something is a good place to upgrade

[astral oasis]

Probably cpu since i started video editing and 3d

[ashen kraken]

The 5090 GB Aorus Master is apparently pretty good this time around. Stock clocks should be the highest among the AIB cards, at least on the ones he tested. Some silicon lottery variance of course.

[calm idol]

for a boot drive thats more than good enough. for games very little though

[astral oasis]

Should i sell the parts i have rn then?

[tidal geyser]

nvidia then

[latent pasture]

then 57/800x/3d

[astral oasis]

I have a 2tb external ssd so it’s okay

[lethal bay]

true story

[tidal geyser]

blender i suspect

[astral oasis]

And c4d yea

[tidal geyser]

4070 ti super would be the best or a used 3090 for a budget

[latent pasture]

3090 on 650w tier a?

[astral oasis]

alrghty thanks everyone

[tidal geyser]

and budget cards would be a 4070 super

[tidal geyser]

yolo

not like the transient is that much

[peak knot]

650W for just 3090 sure

another 450W for the rest of the pc lol

[tidal geyser]

the rest is only like 100-200w max

[peak knot]

depends on cpu, amount of storage, fans, and rgb

[tidal geyser]

we know what he has

5700X3D

[astral oasis]

So like should i sell my current cpu and gpu and change for the new ones or should i just save

[latent pasture]

buy cpu and ram first imo

[tidal geyser]

how much do you have

[shell arrow]

Does the 3090 preform like a 5070

[astral oasis]

alr alr

[latent pasture]

ur not video editing or modeling a big lot on that 16gb of ram

[tidal geyser]

the 5070 is not even out

[astral oasis]

rn i’m broke

[shell arrow]

When it will be will it be like better ig?

[tidal geyser]

we cant know since its not out

[calm idol]

we wont know for certain until reviews are out

[astral oasis]

gtg to work, uni sucks

[shell arrow]

People say the 4080 and 5080 are the same in some games (optimum)

[latent pasture]

this is the worst time to buy new gpu
the new stuff is being scalped and the old stuff is overpriced bc of high demand and disappointment over said new stuff

[shell arrow]

Cyberpunk they preform the same

And mostly an 8 precent bump in some games

[latent pasture]

yes

nvidia leaned hard on multi frame gen marketing

[gray ingot]

wtf

[astral oasis]

Wait guys does the 5800x3d fit in the b450m?

[latent pasture]

yes

not a lot of boards dont support the latest cpus lol
its mostly the earliest a320s

[astral oasis]

oh alright thanks

[latent pasture]

on msis site assuming u listed the right mobo

[calm idol]

also look at the 5700x3d. much better price (atleast here) for only a very slight performance decrease

[strange atlas]

wait why

and how

[gray ingot]

just browsing pcpartpicker and I found that on amazon 🤣

[ashen kraken]

Someone just got their 5080, and well....

Asus at it again

Aiming for that top spot in the coilwhine championship

[rare musk]

shrimply open up the card and pour superglue on top of each inductor

but make sure it dries before u turn it on

[strange atlas]

After reinstalling windows every games looks got like 2-3 times better than it was before

[rare musk]

nice

[strange atlas]

its has like sharpening to it i'm not sure what happened

[rare musk]

lol

[gray ingot]

I've never heard coil wine so loud before

its so extreme it actually sounds like arcing

[ashen kraken]

I got a TUF and it has the same type of coilwhine, just not as loud. It even makes a click sound when I open a picture. That one frame makes the inductors tick

[strange atlas]

Does amd graphics card has like sharpening add on inside?

its unnormal amount of sharpening

[gray ingot]

to the point where stuff looks gross and weird?

[gray ingot]

from a little research it seems to be AMD Radeon Image Sharpening or RIS

[high elm]

bro this is amazing lol my 2 year old 13900K/4080 build is only about 5-10% slower than my friend’s 285k and soon to be 5080 build lol

[gray ingot]

from some more research it can be decreased from within the your AMD software in the gaming tab

[steel umbra]

bad luck

but i agree asus cheaps out on gpu fans that are below tuf and prime lineup

such as dual / mini / phoenix, etc

[rare musk]

side panel is off and its on the desk, it will be loud ofc

[strange atlas]

Got it thank youu

[solar moat]

what good to look for in ram

[rare musk]

https://tenor.com/view/weird-flex-but-ok-gif-12877945

[rare musk]

latency and mhz

[strange atlas]

oh yeah this is why thank you man

[solar moat]

what makes latnency better

[strange atlas]

Does sharpening effect performance?

[rare musk]

being low

[solar moat]

what makes it low

[rare musk]

bad to good: 40-30-20 bla bla

add CL to start of each and thats latency

[gray ingot]

AI YAI YAI!

[solar moat]

you sound like AI

[ashen kraken]

[solar moat]

since that what chatGPT said'

[strange atlas]

Any idea to this?

i dont want to lose performance

[gray ingot]

from what I've heard, no

[solar moat]

not realy but you can bench it if you want

[strange atlas]

got it thank you both of you

[rare musk]

https://tenor.com/view/house-md-dr-house-hugh-laurie-my-fault-sorry-not-sorry-gif-4172569

[rare musk]

it doesnt

but most people dont want it ultra sharp, it makes the game look unnatural

[strange atlas]

yeah thats why i felt like something was weird

[gray ingot]

it makes shit look pasty if its too high

pasty, grainy, gritty

[plush wren]

i see no difference

i think i keep it at like 60 tho

[gray ingot]

those shorts on YouTube and tiktok where peoples skin looks fucked and stuff that's because they crank the sharpening to 100000000 and it looks gross

[strange atlas]

By the way my pc started to get yellow tint flashing on the whole screen again why does that happens? Could it be monitor issue it only happens in like discord mention colors and all

yellow tint goes on and off

[gray ingot]

hmmmm

[rare musk]

possible

[gray ingot]

could be gpu failure to some extent

[gilded thistle]

hi, any idea when the 9070xt specs and price will be released

[gray ingot]

getting flashing of different kinds often points to that but not always

[strange atlas]

it happened on my all gpu's

[gray ingot]

hmmmm

then prolly something else with the system

[strange atlas]

r7 240 rx 550 rx 570 rx 480 rx 580 1070ti 1050ti rx6800

[keen vector]

I have a 1k usd budget should I go am 4 or am 5 ??
This is my first time building a pc .

[gray ingot]

maybe something up with the motherboard or psu

[strange atlas]

i just changed everything except motherboard or psu

[astral oasis]

Okokk

[strange atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-gorilla-sad-annoyed-gif-4090982112237695569

[rare musk]

lol rip

its the monitor, mobo aint gonna do that

[strange atlas]

it also happens on my both monitors

[rare musk]

did u keep using same cable u had before on 1070?

[gray ingot]

oof

[strange atlas]

nah i was using hdmi on that and also my vga monitor does that

Man always problems i'm sick of it

this is also so bad

it doesnt even let me do file transfer so slow

[gray ingot]

hmmmm 🤔

[rare musk]

rip

[gray ingot]

what's the life expectancy of that drive?

[strange atlas]

what do you mean by that

[gray ingot]

well its at just over 53% on its health is this in line with how much its been used in its life?

[strange atlas]

checked what it is i found person did 100tb write on it and still works fine apparently

[junior valve]

6% better than 4080 super ?

[strange atlas]

17000 hours i've got it in like 2020

[strange atlas]

And i didnt even use this driver for like hard stuff only for small works thats all

[rare musk]

10-15%

[trim idol]

it's the coil whine it was making in the video

[gray ingot]

6% more coil whine

lol more like 600% more

[junior valve]

whats wrong with coil whine

[trim idol]

most reviewers are not seeing that amount of uplift over a 4080 Super, they see 10-15% over the 4080 Non-Super

[trim idol]

Did you watch the video?

[rare musk]

i saw it, enough for me

[ashen kraken]

Compare the 2 and find out for yourself. The guy got 2x 5080's apparently

[rare musk]

also 4080 super to 4080 is like 1-2% difference

[ashen kraken]

And the Suprim got slightly better scores than the TUF

[junior valve]

how abt an unusually high clocked 4080 ?

[warm folio]

For those who are interested why the launch yester was such chaos, wccftech said the following:

"For those unaware of why inventory levels are way too low this time, it seems like NVIDIA's decision to integrate GDDR7 memory modules is a primary catalyst for this. Moreover, with AIB partners getting slim margins with the RTX 50 series GPUs, they are also looking to sell their stock at prices above MSRP, which is why the on-launch situation is such chaos. For now, we advice consumers to wait for inventory to reach back to its optimal state, which could take weeks, and by then, we might have AMD's RX 9070 series GPUs in the market as well."

[rare musk]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1279566310186946680.png?size=160&name=what+(arisu)

since when do we count oc cards to benchmarks

[junior valve]

my 4080 stock clock was unusually high so idk

[ashen kraken]

Maybe you got a good card

[rare musk]

more like, good bios

[junior valve]

it was 2610 compared to the normal 2535

its also a founders so probably isnt oced

[gray ingot]

welp

[ashen kraken]

2610 isnt that high tbh

[gray ingot]

here's hoping the 60 series is decent

[junior valve]

it could do 2790 if i let it but thats the stock frequency

[trim idol]

Nature hates me. I'm certain of it

recovering from surgeryh, and I got covid

[junior valve]

2199$ msrp for a 6090

[trim idol]

It won't be. the 5080 is basically a 5070, and the 5070 is typical 60 level specs as compared to the flagship

[ashen kraken]

From HUB's 4080 review

[rare musk]

8gb vram gang

[trim idol]

HUB did a really good video today on how the 5080 should have been a 5070

[junior valve]

my temps arent as high , 27c ambient

[thin plover]

I want a 5050

[frail topaz]

H

[junior valve]

basically a 4060

[trim idol]

You'll get it, it'll just be called a 5060

[thin plover]

☹️

[gray ingot]

fuck it

just run integrated graphics at this point

[trim idol]

We'll all just get strix halo nucs for low end

[thin plover]

I am, on my steamdeck

I should just get a laptop screen and keyboard and use my deck as a laptop

[trim idol]

I'm really excited for the strix halo apus that perform around where a 4060 desktop gpu does

[thin plover]

do u need a proper gpu for cad

[gray ingot]

its ok guys we wont have to worry about gpu's anymore soon

[trim idol]

Yes

[thin plover]

dam there goes my plan for a thin and light laptop

[trim idol]

There have been rumors of a 32GB Intel B580 coming, which is pretty freaking cool

[thin plover]

I want a laptop b580

[rare musk]

💀

average intel rumors

[gray ingot]

once NVidia fully shifts to making AIPU's we will all just buy the same one piece of garbage and all be equally as disappointed with it

[trim idol]

problem is, the chip in the B580 is about the size of the 5070's chip