tech-chat-1

[frail delta]

What is it?

[frail delta]

You're a bit dense, aren't you?

[oblique terrace]

I just scored a Core 2 Quad Extreme QX6700 for $14 USD

[plush radish]

totaly not coded by the chinese communist party not to talk abt Tiananmen Square in 1989 totaly not😉

[oblique terrace]

Better than Pentium D 925

[dapper light]

Ah let's be real here, US based llm like ChatGPT is equally censored in different areas

[swift moss]

yeah for sure

[dapper light]

Optimally there's none on either side but i hate hypocrisy

[swift moss]

im just saying its funny

[frail delta]

Simply impossible

[swift moss]

i'd argue its slightly more censored (gpt)

[frail delta]

Everything has bias

[dapper light]

I'm not talking about llm having opinions

But censorships as in refusing to talk about it at all

Some opensource LLMs don't have the censorship

[plush radish]

did i just start a conversation here

[dapper light]

And even bigger closed ones like mistral large

Or is mistral large open weight as well? I forgot

[heavy knot]

New OLED monitor. Had it for a month and a half. When it’s black it’s perfect, but when it’s grey I can see lines and stuff. I have run cleaners but it seems like it’s from the pixels? Idk.

Any thoughts? Running cleaners did nothing

[plush radish]

my thought is probably dead pixels

[long goblet]

rdr2's epilogue is so good. rdr1's epilogue is... meh.

disappointed.

[plush radish]

but when you mean its black, do you mean turned off or when the rest of the screen is black colored

[heavy knot]

Looked online, apparently it’s a common thing for new OLED monitors to do? https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/16df5f1/is_this_normal_for_oled_monitors/?rdt=54783

[heavy knot]

It’s a perfect black. No problems

[left palm]

wait a minute
is the ultra 9 285k better than the 9950x?

[latent pasture]

in mostly production work especially adobe

[hexed tapir]

New Intel is slower then old Intel for gaming

[left palm]

hmm

is the performance gap that big in gaming for a 9950x and a 9800x3d?

[latent pasture]

like +30% on avg
but thats at 1080 with a 4090
if u have money for 9950x/ 9800x3d ur probably playing at 1440p/4k

or actually that gap is even bigger now with the 5090 9800x3d could stretch out even that

[left palm]

yeah 1440p

oof

im torn that the 9950x3d isnt getting released in early feb or late jan

[latent pasture]

put something like 8400f at $150 in for now then

or idk just postpone buying ur pc

[left palm]

hmm

[vivid pendant]

the 9950x3d will probably have the same issue as the 7950x3d

games not using the 3d v cache cores

[mint umbra]

Trading in my s23 ultra for one plus 13

[vivid pendant]

imagin

[still escarp]

I am effed. Accidentily turned on performance metrics, and I have no idea which program is responsible for this:

https://i.imgur.com/ZgllzW0.jpeg

[shy olive]

check task manager

[still escarp]

Found it. Nvidia overlay.

[shy olive]

end it then

[still escarp]

Killed it

[shy olive]

did the performance metrics go?

[raw trout]

I am buying an 9.5 inch ssd caddy. Do you think it will fit in here

[brave brook]

instead of the DVD drive ?

[raw trout]

Yeah

And the drive will go in an esd bag

One of any brand

I'm getting 256 wd green

[brave brook]

measure the height of the DVD drive. But 9.5mm is the typical small height

[raw trout]

And the wd green

[brave brook]

or if you can find the model of the DVD drive, you could look up the spec

[raw trout]

It feels 10 cm in height

[brave brook]

laptop drives are usually 9.5mm or 12.5mm tho

[raw trout]

If it's blockibg the required text I could take it out the slot tooless

[brave brook]

9.5mm ultra-slim DU-8A5LH FW - A02 / 6D5N

[raw trout]

Is that the one

I have

[brave brook]

yes, it is on the label

[raw trout]

K

[raw trout]

Also do you think the nvme ssd I mentioned above will fit in here

[brave brook]

that is a normal 2280 size SSD, so sure. Be sure to check if it supports the M.2 key (M) and NVMe protocol

[raw trout]

I'm going to do an 512 main 500 existing hhd and 256 cd drive caddy and the old 256 as backup

[brave brook]

but as the old SSD is NVMe too, i suspect it will work just fine

[raw trout]

The wd green

I gave above in the scrolling screenshot

[brave brook]

no, i meant you need to check what your system/motherboard supports, as in if it has the right connector (M.2 SSD slots can be key B or M or both, M.2 Wifi slots are key A or E or both)...

[raw trout]

I have a m.3

2 of them

One usb standard both unpopulated

And one standard pcie

The motherboard says slot 3 m.2

[tidal geyser]

A yes now that is a massive upgrade over m.2

What does m.3 do?

[raw trout]

Look for yourslef

[tidal geyser]

No, I know m.3 ain't a thing

[brave brook]

it is M.2 with PCIe Gen 3 he probably means

[brave brook]

M3 is the screw size for the hole next to it

[tidal geyser]

That is 2 pcie slots one is x4 and the other is x16 in leanght and maybe electricly too

[brave brook]

that hole is M3 sized 🙂

also dear god

[tidal geyser]

It's nvme

[tidal geyser]

I have seen way way way worse

The was a ball 5x that size in a computer I dust cleaned a last week

Ok 5x is a bit much but it was MASSIVE

[raw trout]

Dude

Its a pc from 2016

It is refurbished

And my dad paid for something that is worse than a Lenovo prebuilt supporting windows 11

The processor is literally 500 rupees

Dust balls are to be expected

What ssd do you recommend under 2k rupees

Actually 3k rupees

@tidal geyser

@brave brook

[rigid gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/stranger-things-fire-flame-gif-14920648

[raw trout]

According to Amazon this is the ssd I jave

Will this one wok

Work

[green crown]

Only 500gb???!!

[frail topaz]

get a sn770

[tropic lynx]

guys what shall i do after installing windows. fully update it?

[frail topaz]

drivers & then update it

[tropic lynx]

this is my second time reinstalling windows, last time time i install the updates it leads to a blue screen and an error, hopefully this time notging happens or should i not update it

[frail topaz]

nothing should go wrong tho

[tropic lynx]

Thanks Macie

I’m realy scared

It’s a prebuilt

[frail topaz]

Its okay as long as it works you can fix software issues

[tropic lynx]

Thank you 😀

[orchid spruce]

I am not how, but when I disabled SysMain on my PC, which already has a NVMe SSD, I actually never seen it boot that fast before with it off.

Like everything was loaded in within a minute or two

Before, it took a good 4 - 5 minutes

[frail topaz]

Thats not normal for a NVMe ssd

[orchid spruce]

I disabled it because I am trying to get to the bottom on the excessive RAM usage

Though it seems like its creeping back up

[zenith cradle]

The accomplishment of the day

[gritty grove]

It's anyone else's discord messed up?

Text size inconsistencies?

[eternal cloak]

No

[edgy marlin]

How do GPU drops work on newegg, is it also first come first serve like bestbuy or is there a lottery system or..? Tryna get a specific 5080 @ launch (msi shadow / gigabyte windforce).

[gritty grove]

Why is your message so big

[eternal cloak]

Because I'm big

[tropic lynx]

@frail topaz what drivers do i install

[gritty grove]

Like look at this

Different sizes. IDK what's wrong

[eternal cloak]

Didn't you hear? Discord updated the text sizes so they match up with how tall you are IRL

[cunning flume]

i instaled new power suply but my sound is bad what could be the problem?

[gritty grove]

Well they messed mine up

I'm 6'1

[eternal cloak]

Well does your phone have an IR sensor

[frail topaz]

your pc drivers ?

[eternal cloak]

You need that to be able to scan yourself

[tropic lynx]

I only know how to install Graphics cars drivers

[gritty grove]

Hmmm

[random gyro]

E

[gritty grove]

Okay it looks like I just had to close and reopen.

[eternal cloak]

Kek

[frail delta]

All the text there is the same size??

[shrewd timber]

How am I on discord

They didn’t turn my data off at all

So I’m probably being charged

[crystal oyster]

https://www.coolermaster.com/en-global/products/elite-301/
does this case fit the https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B650-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI
withhttps://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-R78XTGAMING-OC-16GD#kf

[shrewd timber]

How?

[frail delta]

Your service has probably just been shaped to like 500kbps

[shrewd timber]

Is that terrible

[frail delta]

Huh?

[shrewd timber]

All I do is use discord

[frail delta]

You won’t be able to make calls other than to emergency triple zero

[shrewd timber]

It was able to ring my friend idk and idk why

[crimson moat]

hoi

[frail delta]

Then the disconnection likely just hasn’t taken effect yet

Give it 24 hours

[shrewd timber]

I have

It’s been like 3 days dude since my credit ran out

I’m still able to call voicemail

[frail delta]

Yes that’s expected

[shrewd timber]

I was able to call apple too

[frail delta]

Try calling a not free call number

Like 131313

1800 numbers will work even without credit

[eternal cloak]

TopLime more like TopMommy

[shrewd timber]

Apple this is a 1300 number

[frail delta]

Strange

[eternal cloak]

Knew it

[shrewd timber]

This is a 13 number

It didn’t give me the this number is not part of your plan thing

[next hill]

Lol

In some huge event building

[frail delta]

Okay?

I don’t get how that’s funny

[eternal cloak]

?
Yes

[random gyro]

guys is it wort buying the 1st thing that shows up on amazon

idk wat to buy

[eternal cloak]

Idk what you expected, a 4x4x2 foot big AP?

[shrewd timber]

I’m calling my friend just fine

[eternal cloak]

We don't need screenshots of every guy you call, fucking hell

[shrewd timber]

I like your name why the supremacy

I should call myself Brayden NVIDIA Supremacy

[raw trout]

Too expensive and not compatiable

[livid fern]

Its backwards compatible

U can put gen5 into gen3 slot

[frail delta]

Wow

[livid fern]

It will run at gen3 speeds

[raw trout]

Still it's 6k im not paying for 3 drives to waste potential

[eternal cloak]

Idk why every idiot talking about my name feels the need to challenge me because of my name

[frail delta]

SloppyBottom | Voodoo 5 Supremacy

[shrewd timber]

What’s that

[cyan bay]

this good? just around 360

[frail delta]

The national security hotline

[cyan bay]

360usd

[eternal cloak]

I wonder how Voodoo 5 worked out kek

[frail delta]

1800 123 400

Thank you for calling the national security hotline, if this is an emergency please hang up and dial emergency triple zero

[shrewd timber]

Which ones the Australian FBI

[livid fern]

7600 non xt available?

[frail delta]

ACIC

[cyan bay]

yeah

[river zealot]

https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1332645303630958592

[minor sleet]

Nah

I’ll pass

[oblique terrace]

WITHOUT LOOKING IT UP!

What is the main Difference between the Core 2 Quad Q6700 and QX6700?

[minor sleet]

The name

[frail delta]

It’s irrelevant

[oblique terrace]

One can be overclocked

[tired hawk]

the other one can't

right?

[frail delta]

As per my last message, it is irrelevant.

[minor sleet]

I was still correct

[oblique terrace]

Yes

[raw trout]

https://tenor.com/view/hitam-atau-black-laugh-white-teeth-gif-16766958

Can I use a song dcrsx45e today?

[oblique terrace]

Who fucking cares what is irrelevant its my PC

[raw trout]

Sony

[tidal geyser]

you can even put gen 1 in a gen 5 slot

[oblique terrace]

They can be clocked pretty high

[tired hawk]

wow

[frail delta]

But in the end it really doesn’t matter

[oblique terrace]

I've seen 6ghz

[cyan bay]

if I ONLY GAME ON 1080P IS 8GB GOOD?

[raw trout]

Ushdjsjfjdhjxichdhdhidjbdhxhb

[tired hawk]

8gb of what

[tidal geyser]

its fine but i would still try to get more

[raw trout]

https://tenor.com/view/feels-alone-depression-gif-15207100599578527994

[tidal geyser]

vram

[cyan bay]

vram

[oblique terrace]

You can technically cam on 1gb Vram at 1080

[tired hawk]

(I mean I know that I was testing if he knew that)

[oblique terrace]

Not every game played has to be new

[tired hawk]

I mean 8gb is barely enough if you play AAA games

but if your game of choice is Minecraft and Fortnite

[cyan bay]

I finally found a 3060ti but only 1stock left still waiting for my grandma to buy me

[tired hawk]

you're good to go

[minor sleet]

You game on a CRT, shut the fuck up

[tired hawk]

get the 3060 12gb non ti if possible

[oblique terrace]

At least I can afford a CRT

[cyan bay]

well the only game ill prolly play is monster hunter wilds

[oblique terrace]

I play battlefield 5

[minor sleet]

I’d rather buy a fucking QD-OLED

[tidal geyser]

so you have zero dollars to your name

[tired hawk]

yeah but I mean

for SNES games CRT is fire

[tidal geyser]

cant really beat e-waste prices aka free

[tired hawk]

I mean you can

[oblique terrace]

Just remember without these older technology you wouldn't have that new PC

[tired hawk]

if you pay me to get that CRT

[tidal geyser]

dosent mean i have to buy it now

[tired hawk]

negative price

[tribal briar]

I like negative prices

[cyan bay]

should I get 3060ti

[tired hawk]

google ai ☹️

[oblique terrace]

Look up CRT prices

[cyan bay]

LMAO

[oblique terrace]

Also I can overclock mine to 144hz

[tropic lynx]

guys

[tired hawk]

what

[cyan bay]

should I go for 3060ti?

[tidal geyser]

i would rather look for a rx 7700 XT if you have a bit more to spend or just a b580 or rx 6700/6750 xt

[tired hawk]

I mean I'd save for a 4070 ti on the used market or smth like that from people flocking to sell their cards

cus 50 series

[tropic lynx]

every time i update this intel wireless thing my pc get blue screens n i gotta reinstall windows , any idea why?

[tired hawk]

or AMD

[tired hawk]

uh driver may be cook or hardware may be cook

[tropic lynx]

which hardware

[tired hawk]

happened to me too with a broken laptop keyboard

[minor sleet]

Ok?

[tired hawk]

when installing the laptop keyboard driver the PC crashed

[cyan bay]

out of budget and cant afford a new psu

[tired hawk]

ended up unplugging the keyboard

[tropic lynx]

oooh

[tired hawk]

(MacBook)

[tropic lynx]

I don’t have Wifi MOBO

[oblique terrace]

The better point to look at is how much y'all spend on upgrade vs what I do and can still play modern games

[tropic lynx]

I have antennas

[tired hawk]

uh

is it a PCIe wifi card or mobo card

[tropic lynx]

Uhh

[tribal briar]

One is in the m.2 form factor the other is pcie

[tropic lynx]

Dual band internal dual antenna bluetooth and wifi card

this is what it is

[minor sleet]

Ok? And?

[tidal geyser]

but you do not need a new psu??

[tidal geyser]

m.2 can use pcie?

[turbid dirge]

How's Deepcool PL750D?

[shrewd timber]

My PC won’t recognise the DVD Drive

[tidal geyser]

what psu do you have now?

[shrewd timber]

I was trying to watch a Movie

I’m a collector I watch DVDs

[turbid dirge]

Corsair CV450w 😐

[cyan bay]

I guess ill just go w 3060ti

[tidal geyser]

what are the parts that need powering?

[tidal geyser]

your pc and psu can do the rx 7700 xt with no issues

[shrewd timber]

It’s literally connected and receiving power the hell is going on

[eternal cloak]

PCIe is both a form factor and a expansion bus standard

[tidal geyser]

yeah fair

[rigid fjord]

m.2 is just a form factor, it can use either sata or pcie protocols

[turbid dirge]

4070 or 4060ti

Soon goona upgrade to that

[tidal geyser]

with the 4060 you would not need to upgrade the psu at all

it probably uses less power then the gpu you have in it now

[cyan bay]

costs like 515$ here while the 3060ti costs 400$

[crystal oyster]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Z4RO/saved/bGnXnQ can you rate the build :>

[turbid dirge]

Just future proofing right now

At least for next 2Y

[tidal geyser]

what about a rx 6700 xt or 6750 xt or arc b580

[tidal geyser]

why not buy a new psu in 2 years

[tropic lynx]

Guys can anyone help me please

[cyan bay]

tried finding arc b580 but non available all sold out in stores and malls

[tidal geyser]

why not get like 2x the storage for the same price?

[rigid fjord]

wifi cards can be in usb, pcie, m.2, mini-pcie form factors

[tidal geyser]

you cant even buy the cpu cooler

[crystal oyster]

got a hard drive

[cyan bay]

and abt 6700xt and 6750xt im still thinking cause i still dont understand dlss

[crystal oyster]

my country has it

[tropic lynx]

how can i check if it’s my driver that’s the problem or my card

[tidal geyser]

always love seeing the wifi card slot gaming laptops with a gpu from that slot

[tidal geyser]

and that county is?

[tired hawk]

I forgor you're totally right my bad my bad 🙁

[turbid dirge]

Currently my gpu is RX 7600

[crystal oyster]

middle eastern

[turbid dirge]

With cv450 😐

[tidal geyser]

then the 4060 ti would not be a upgrade

[tidal geyser]

thats not a country

[rigid fjord]

the only issues is the ssd and cooler tbh

[tidal geyser]

you are using 1080 you do not even need to think about dlss

[minor sleet]

Thats no country

[shrewd timber]

Ugh

[tired hawk]

can I send a funny but real gif here

[tired hawk]

ayo I like that PC

[crystal oyster]

storage should i get a pcie 3.0 insted ?

[shrewd timber]

Help

[tired hawk]

old and crusty exactly my type

[tidal geyser]

top right on pc partpicker there is a flag and if you press that flag there is more then the us

[tired hawk]

my favorite

[minor sleet]

PCIe 3.0 is more expensive than PCIe 4.0

[shrewd timber]

Help

[tidal geyser]

wtf why it say pata?

[cyan bay]

its actually so hard to find amd gpu irl in my country every stores is packed with 4060

[crystal oyster]

isnt 3.0 older?

[tired hawk]

uh HDD isn't properly connected or it's broken

[shrewd timber]

The DVD Drive is IDE

[rigid fjord]

you need to set master and slave manually on the hdd's and other ide devices

[minor sleet]

Yes, that’s why it’s more expensive

[tired hawk]

also that

[tidal geyser]

e-waste

[oblique terrace]

I'll show y'all Relevance
Dell Precision T5500 is still relevant when running Dual Xeon X5650 Hexed HT @2.66ghz, 72gb DDR3 ECC Unbuffered, Dual 1050ti SLI, 8tb (2x4tb PCIe Adapted M.2 NVME) SSD. This bitch was fast

[tired hawk]

I like HDD as master and DVD drive as slave

[tidal geyser]

what

[minor sleet]

What’s that UI

[tired hawk]

tho it doesn't really matter

[rigid fjord]

dvd set to master, hdd set to slave, you have to do it on the drives headers themself

[crystal oyster]

isnt in the list

[minor sleet]

I remember 3.0 nvmes being like double the price of 4.0

[real lantern]

how

[tidal geyser]

are you on phone?

[crystal oyster]

no

[shrewd timber]

It’s a laptop drive

[rigid fjord]

1tb drive is around $60, you can get a 2tb drive for the price of that one, and an air cooler would be better than that aio

[shrewd timber]

And the HDD is SATA

[eternal cloak]

Products tend to get more expensive as they discontinue the line and stock diminishes

[tidal geyser]

in the US the klevv c910 is like 90$

[shrewd timber]

Slimline

[crystal oyster]

isnt in the list as in not part of the countries bro

[shrewd timber]

It’s not even showing in Windows 10

[rigid fjord]

then you'll likely to feel fustrated for a long time

[tired hawk]

I would do the opposite but it really doesn't matter

[minor sleet]

What

[tired hawk]

tho it is easier cable managing wise because the DVD drive is usually above the HDD

[oblique terrace]

Optiplex 745 or 755?

[tidal geyser]

if you are in the EU you can normally just get the parts shipped from germany

[shrewd timber]

GX620

[rigid fjord]

i found it worked better this way, you get less issues

[real lantern]

Most m.2 drives are backwards/forwards compatible no?

[oblique terrace]

Similar case

[shrewd timber]

My mother also tried to pulls the factory sticky tape off the DVD Drive cable

[tidal geyser]

they are

[tired hawk]

(I mean master and slave isn't the same master and slave in other systems, one doesn't control the other)

[crystal oyster]

alr i got another one https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/cpu-coolers/ct-9010011-ww/a115-twin-tower-cpu-air-cooler-ct-9010011-ww?srsltid=AfmBOordqD6BwC20rtLmLs7PL8F1klZhBYO4uvQIEn1DvzALg2uqZDRr

[tidal geyser]

god no

[livid fern]

Why corsair

[tidal geyser]

since corsair

[tired hawk]

wait what happened with corsair

(I'm sooo out of the loop)

[tidal geyser]

overpriced and shit

[livid fern]

Psu price

[rigid fjord]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Dgqrxr/ better drive though

[tired hawk]

oh that yes you're right

[tidal geyser]

get a phantom spirit 120 se or perless assasin 120 se or id cooling a620 se

[tired hawk]

(not really shit but yeah)

[oblique terrace]

https://www.amazon.com/GLOTRENDS-Splitter-Bifurcation-Motherboard-PA41/dp/B0BHWN7WKD/ref=asc_df_B0BHWN7WKD?mcid=0c6466e44a3939b498c20c8cd05d7463&hvocijid=13402038022335985960-B0BHWN7WKD-&hvexpln=73&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=721245378154&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13402038022335985960&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1019973&hvtargid=pla-2281435178138&psc=1

[livid fern]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hCGbt6/thermaltake-toughpower-gf3-tt-premium-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0750fnfagu-4
Or 850w version

[tired hawk]

I forgor the brand but I saw it being reviewed quite nicely

[rigid fjord]

no not this, get an idcooling frozn a620 se

[tidal geyser]

i so badly want the command where it just says all these coolers and all i have to say is !coolers

[livid fern]

Both Are better than asus prime 750w

[oblique terrace]

That drive sticking out the front pains me

[shrewd timber]

What’s this for?

[tired hawk]

wait I got a question

[rigid fjord]

add SE to the end of each cooler

[oblique terrace]

Fits into a PCIe slot and adapts it to run an M.2 NVME

[shrewd timber]

My hard drive is SATA

[crystal oyster]

arl ill check em out 1sec

[tidal geyser]

what does SE even stand for

[tired hawk]

why won't AMD and Intel go for IPC (dye size) instead of just boosting the clock speeds? sure yealds will be a bit lower but efficiency will skyrocket

[livid fern]

Stealth edition 🙂

[real lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-yes-nod-do-the-cat-please-gif-19254923

[rigid fjord]

second edition

[oblique terrace]

This makes it able to not need a Sata

[shrewd timber]

My PCI express is taken up by a graphics card

[oblique terrace]

Also bumps up speed significantly

[tidal geyser]

well amd did go for ipc

aka one major reason why they are beting intel while using WAY lower amounts of power

[tired hawk]

yeah also that but they could improve so much if they 1.5x'd the dye size

[tired hawk]

yep

[rigid fjord]

useless when they're dealing with sata, and no pcie for this

[rigid fjord]

not really no, especially for OS and games

[eternal cloak]

Ye, doesn't mean they won't discontinue them

[tired hawk]

wait wait wait

pata and the ribbon cable...

how is it slower than sata?

[tidal geyser]

wha

[oblique terrace]

So why does my PC boot and access information so much faster with M.2 NVME than a Sata SSD?

[minor sleet]

Love it when you need a feature for an adaptor that 99% of motherboards don’t have

[tidal geyser]

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/difference-between-pata-and-sata/

[rigid fjord]

amd does both, it's why they have both efficiency and performance without copying arm's design of big little like intel has done currently

[tired hawk]

uh PATA has that cable that is actually 40 cables or something but lined up together, how is it slower than the 7 SATA has

[oblique terrace]

If your PC is slow it is the Hard Drive

[minor sleet]

So I’ll get a SATA SSD then

[tired hawk]

is it because of timing?

[rigid fjord]

0.01 second faster over sata isn't enough of a gain, also there's other factors like ram

[shrewd timber]

We both watch bringus?

[eternal cloak]

Mate, PATA is the literal predecessor of SATA and is a good 14 years older than SATA is

[tidal geyser]

SATA removes the mux/demux and scatter/gather processes, but does requires a hub/spoke approach instead of PATA's bus approach. This simplicity brought down costs and improved connector and data reliability.

[rigid fjord]

sata 2.5 ssd's exist

[tired hawk]

gosh they robbed him I'm so sad

[minor sleet]

Also you text like someone who uses bottleneck calculators

[oblique terrace]

Well 1200mb/s vs 540mb/s

[tired hawk]

ok thanks

[tidal geyser]

data reliability allowed them to bump up speeds

[tired hawk]

yeah but my brain thought 40 cables better than 7

[rigid fjord]

meanwhile you don't even see those speeds unless under a benchmark

[tired hawk]

but that implies timing issues

[tidal geyser]

sata m.2 ssds also does even m-sata is a thing

[oblique terrace]

I build shit in my garage that Bringus would drool over

[tidal geyser]

aint sata fun we do also have e-sata

[tired hawk]

they robbed bringus

[shrewd timber]

lol

[frail delta]

Fuck those batards

[tired hawk]

what do I do what do I do what do I do they robbed bringus I'm so mad

he's my fav YouTuber of all time

[eternal cloak]

By that logic PCIe/EPS 8-pin should be better than 12VHPWR power delivery, which as you know isn't the case, like at all lol

[tired hawk]

he's the best and they robbed him NOOOOO

[tidal geyser]

i have 2 NUCs i cant do a lot with since they use m-sata and only m-sata

[tired hawk]

I mean they tried to push too much power on those flimsy wires

[limpid dune]

omfg I hate alienware. I just installed a BIOS update, one that was forced, and I did everything correctly and allowed it to do all of its steps... and guess what? nope, laptop bricked. Dell shipped a faulty BIOS.

[shrewd timber]

What’s the national television standards committee andromeda hangout

[oblique terrace]

I have an invite to his server if you want

[tidal geyser]

and m-sata is HELLA expensive

[tired hawk]

a guild

[limpid dune]

$1,200 motherboard is dead because Dell tests in production

[shrewd timber]

I’m in it

[tired hawk]

I wanted the NTSC tag

[rigid fjord]

yeah but you look at any modern mobo and you'd see sata m.2 has been phased out for a protocol, and msata has been out of action for at least 4-6 years

[frail delta]

Yeah, it’s really annoying

[eternal cloak]

Not really
The way the cable itself was designed was bad, the amount of pins doesn't matter too much

The thing catching on fire was user error anyway

[real lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-fire-laptop-computer-flame-gif-15212954468259039232

[limpid dune]

I'm saving that GIF to my desktop

[tidal geyser]

fun part tho is that i can get 250GB nvme ssds for like 15$

[oblique terrace]

Also the Civilian model of the prison Laptop is the Jumper EZBOOK X3

[shrewd timber]

Yeah

[real lantern]

great

[eternal cloak]

Discuss that in DMs, advertising other servers is a nono on literally any big community server

[tired hawk]

read only

[shrewd timber]

I saw that video

[rigid fjord]

tbf, pcie and eps cables are overspecced for their use

[oblique terrace]

I'm in some of those servers

[limpid dune]

good news, I've revived the Hell Dell; I had to open it up and short two COMPLETELY UNDOCUMENTED pins to reset some obscure management thing, because apparently every BIOS update bricks your laptop until you clear the CMOS and ME

[shrewd timber]

Sure

[tidal geyser]

but people still manage to burn something with it

[tired hawk]

this is why I hate laptops

[oblique terrace]

Did I post the link here or did I offer?

[shrewd timber]

Take out the battery

[tired hawk]

also it's not his server but bringus'

[tidal geyser]

like the guy who had a 3080 ti or something and used the pigtail of his pcie power cable and the psu side umm melted a tiny tiny bit

[tired hawk]

lmao

[eternal cloak]

You indeed did offer 'an invite'
I don't care about your semantics, just don't

[tired hawk]

was it during the Nvidia shortage crisis

[tired hawk]

eh whatever just move on it's not his server

[tidal geyser]

what?

[eternal cloak]

I'm not even modding you or anything, it's advice on how to not get yeeted in some way kek

[tidal geyser]

the gpu is fine its just the psu side that melted

[eternal cloak]

Irrelevant if it's his server or not

[tired hawk]

like did he buy the 3080 ti during the crisis

[frail delta]

How

[oblique terrace]

Bringus is in this server too

[tired hawk]

no like I get that just curious

[shrewd timber]

How what

[tidal geyser]

aint got a clue not sure if it was that gpu even

[eternal cloak]

Irrelevant

[rigid fjord]

some people are dumb enough to push an m.2 drive into sata power connectors dude

[frail delta]

So many servers, so many notifications

[tired hawk]

man you're the goat of this server, kinda sad seeing you not having bread :(

[eternal cloak]

Peak human

[tidal geyser]

well yeah

[tidal geyser]

um

[oblique terrace]

I've had to repair so many computers in Florida because of this

[tired hawk]

they don't deserve a PC

[eternal cloak]

He wasn't on the server whenever they handed those out, it's not like bread is some kinda prestigious title

[tidal geyser]

well i should still make a bit more mula

[tired hawk]

no like I know but still

[shrewd timber]

It’s so hot today

[tidal geyser]

also i really need to clean ma apartment

[rigid fjord]

and then wonder why magic smoke happens from the ssd let alone why it doesn't work no more

[minor sleet]

That’s crazy

[tired hawk]

?

[eternal cloak]

Though it is turning into one kek

[shrewd timber]

Magic Smoke that means something shorted out

[tidal geyser]

that kinda bread, the bread role

[shrewd timber]

I’ve smelt magic smoke

[peak knot]

ive been on here way longer than sim and i also dont have the bread role lol

[frail delta]

Everybody deserves to have access to a computer and the Internet

[tired hawk]

more people deleting accounts and being banned from the discord

[eternal cloak]

That's because you didn't care lol

[tired hawk]

no but why the 7900xtx image

[shrewd timber]

I wanted to watch Annie but my DVD Doesn’t get recognised

[peak knot]

i mean true

[oblique terrace]

Why won't my PC Boot? Because you're a dumbass

[tidal geyser]

i thought you meant bread as money

[tired hawk]

but they don't deserve a PC, a laptop is what they deserve for sticking an m.2 there

[tidal geyser]

i still have no clue how one gets the bread role

[eternal cloak]

It's almost like prebuilts exist, crazy I know

[frail delta]

A laptop is a personal computer :)

[minor sleet]

Can’t see the issue

[peak knot]

you cant anymore

[tribal briar]

I mean it fits 😂

[tired hawk]

you needed to react to a pinned message during the LTT drama in 2023

[shrewd timber]

NVME Drive into a sata power connector will kill it

[minor sleet]

Not enough pixels

[tidal geyser]

dam

[peak knot]

was a limited time event they did for bread role

[rigid fjord]

technically it started from a react to get the roll, now it's like it's something special to have with some people

[eternal cloak]

It was a role you got for reacting to a message Langley posted, you can't get it anymore

[tired hawk]

personal take but nowdays PC = desktop, laptop = laptop

feel free to disagree

[minor sleet]

PC was IBM branding

[frail delta]

PC generally just means any computer that runs windows

[tidal geyser]

welp i was just chilling in tech support for like 2 years

[oblique terrace]

I mean you can clearly see the fire mark

[tired hawk]

uh remove the run windows part and then I agree

[rigid fjord]

wait til you see elliot and his installing of a cpu backwards in a slot

[tidal geyser]

so i did not care

[minor sleet]

So a Linux computer isn’t a pc?

[shrewd timber]

Yep

[rigid fjord]

resulting in a dead cpu and mobo

[frail delta]

Well, that gets tricky because lots of IoT crap runs Linux

[shrewd timber]

Even I know that’s stupid

[thin plover]

it happened in #public-chat blehh

[eternal cloak]

Your opinion doesn't particularly matter either way, factually speaking anything that's a computer is a PC

[tidal geyser]

PC literally means personal computer, your smart watch is a pc

[oblique terrace]

I've had to use a toothpick and sewing needle for hours to bend all the pins back in a customers board

[shrewd timber]

IBM PC

[eternal cloak]

By definition a PC is a 'computer designed for use by one person at a time', OS not being specified

[frail delta]

Then so is my Apple Watch, or my Casio calculator

[tired hawk]

yeah but I still kinda feel like when someone says PC they mean desktop, and if it is a laptop they explicitly say that it's a laptop

[tidal geyser]

anything that can compute can technically be called a computer

[frail delta]

https://tenor.com/view/computer-whats-a-computer-tablet-gif-11564169

[tired hawk]

tho I know they are both PCs

[rigid fjord]

this was an intel mobo, resulting in a dead lenovo and dead 10400f

[tired hawk]

yup

my brain is a computer because it computes 1+1

[shrewd timber]

I don’t call anything using arm a PC I call it a computer

[eternal cloak]

Yo mama

[tired hawk]

(true I u don't mean it as a joke)

[oblique terrace]

I only did the bending back because $200 vs $2500

[frail delta]

No u

[rigid fjord]

laptops evolved from a portable/lugable pc tbh

[oblique terrace]

If it can be saved do it

[tired hawk]

the luggables were soo cool

[tidal geyser]

by oxford a computer is: an electronic device for storing and processing data, typically in binary form, according to instructions given to it in a variable program.

[frail delta]

And desktop PCs evolved from entire rooms and buildings

[shrewd timber]

I call Desktop, Luggable and a Laptop a PC

[tribal briar]

And defense too

[tired hawk]

doesn't have to be electronic, mechanic does the trick too

I'm not critiquing you but oxford ofc

[limpid dune]

I have a TRS-80 M100, commonly called the "first laptop ever made", and it feels fairly PClike

[brave brook]

got 5 of 250GB Samsung OEM drives i have at home which look like that (minus the burn marks)

feels weird seeing 250GB SSD is mostly useless these days

[peak knot]

my trs-80 is a model 4

[rigid fjord]

bet you've not seen magic smoke come from a fan header yet?

[tidal geyser]

what?

[oblique terrace]

By my definition of a computer, Box of beep boop crap I want to beat with a hammer for crashing

[eternal cloak]

That roughly aligns with how people called laptops back in the day; PC used to be a term associated with a brand by IBM (IBM Personal Computer), so people called i.e Macs personal computers, but not necessarily PCs

[oblique terrace]

Yes

[tired hawk]

either it's a boot drive or it's useless

can't store anything

and I'm a data hoarder

[brave brook]

i mean, what would i even use 250GB NVMe drives for, i got 1-2TB NVMe drives in everything now

[rigid fjord]

but was it because someone put the berg connector onto the fan heaer?

[limpid dune]

I have a 256GB in my PC and I use it as my Gentoo drive when I'm feeling quirky

[tidal geyser]

me is a budget king

[tired hawk]

for (almost) dirt cheap

500gb is like 40 euros

[oblique terrace]

I've had fans fails in smokey ways before and blew caps on the board overclocking

[brave brook]

and the rest of old PCs can't use NVMe anyway (well not for booting)

[rigid fjord]

OS

[tidal geyser]

i have mula but i try to keep any and all costs as low as i can

[tired hawk]

yeah but like hear me out for a second

[brave brook]

wasting precious PCIe lanes for 250GB NVMe

[thin plover]

computer

[tired hawk]

higher the capacity (same density) lower the cost per gigabyte

assuming 100% yealds

[tidal geyser]

cant beat 256GB for 15$

[rigid fjord]

os should never be on the same drive as games/whatever else

[tired hawk]

I mean you're right

[oblique terrace]

I run Jupiter Drives because they are cheap

[rigid fjord]

500gb for the same price

[tired hawk]

yup

[tidal geyser]

well in Norway

[tired hawk]

a bit on the scam side

[shrewd timber]

I hate that Windows Measures files in KiB

[tired hawk]

agree

[brave brook]

4x PM981 and 1x XP941 is my 250GB NVMe collection

[oblique terrace]

People put down Jupiter Drives but mine are 4 years old and still running

[tired hawk]

it makes some sense to have it as KiB because powers of 2, but kilo always meant 1000 and reporting it as KB and not KiB makes people feel like they've been scammed

lose-lose situation

Microsoft loses because we hate them because of this crap

tech illiterates lose because they feel like they have been scammed

[oblique terrace]

I have a 24mb cache on my CPU. Is that good?

[frail delta]

Nobody actually cares

[tired hawk]

I mean I do

[frail delta]

Nobody

[tired hawk]

depends on the CPU

[frail delta]

A negligible amount of people care

[tired hawk]

whatever stop dragging it

[tidal geyser]

i have 96MB of L3

[brave brook]

@tidal geyser also boot drive - my Threadripper server boot drive is a Samsung 830 250GB from ~2011-2012 and a Ivy Bridge backup NAS boot drive is Crucial m4 64GB from 2011 😄

[rigid fjord]

i have 32mb of l3 cache

[brave brook]

Samsung 830 was one of the last good looking 2.5" SSDs, then they cheaped out

[frail delta]

Three messages mate

[tidal geyser]

yup that is the plan for my 128/120GB 2.5 sata ssds

throw them in NUCs or use them for caching

[frail delta]

Cisco uses some pretty sexy 2.5" SSDs

[tired hawk]

to be honest you just fit in a laptop and never see it again

[rigid fjord]

mx500's though

[tired hawk]

tho it's nicer to have the brush look

[brave brook]

the m4

[oblique terrace]

Beware the 2013 1tb WD black hybrid drive. The bearings fail within a year

[tired hawk]

I have some 2018 WD blue

[frail delta]

Wasn't much of a concern

[tired hawk]

afaik 90% crystal disk

[brave brook]

can't remember when i owned the last laptop with 2.5" drive cage 😄

[oblique terrace]

I have 10 new old stock and the rumors are true

[tired hawk]

pretty good

[tired hawk]

mine is from 2021

2 nvme and 1 sata

no wait 1 nvme and 2 sata, one of them being 2.5"

that's the good thing with Acer nitros

[oblique terrace]

I have a 500mb Pata from 1994 that I still use occasionally. It's slow AF

[tired hawk]

and the bad... trash build quality

[shy olive]

Guys I spilled some pizza on my cooler while connecting the cables, it didn't touch any other component but the cooler, will it damage the cooler or can I just clean it off?

[frail delta]

Shit display too?

[tired hawk]

budget laptop and IPS panel

[frail delta]

It's not a cooler, it's a pizza warmer

[tidal geyser]

just got me a mobo, cpu and cooler for 120$
i5-10400F | ROG STRIX B460-F GAMING | Cooler Master 212 Black Edition
so that is fun

[brave brook]

talking about Acers, had this in 2012

[shy olive]

... Can I just clean it off tho or do I have to change it? (It didn't go inside the fans)

[brave brook]

had one of the weirdest storage layouts ever

RAID 0 SSD array by Lite-On (CMT-128L3M)

[tidal geyser]

i also have to go out to the pickup point and get another mobo i bought a few days ago

[frail delta]

Acer has balls

[frail delta]

Yes

[brave brook]

it was a single module tho

[tidal geyser]

every time i hear lite on i also hear fire at the end of it

well i hear the last part in ma head

[frail delta]

Huh why

[brave brook]

🤷‍♂️

[shy olive]

Alr ty

[tired hawk]

but the other good thing of Acer is the warranty

ok so the PC breaks during gaming (mobo fails), I send it to Acer and they repair it, after a while I break it with a huge punch, I already punched it real hard multiple times, I try to see the issue by removing the motherboard and idk what the issue was, I removed the heat sync, there were so many missing screws and other screws in wrong positions, the shell was damaged, one keycap was replaced by me after it broke, I send it to Acer 2 WEEKS BEFORE THE EXPIRY DATE and they accept the repair...

[limpid dune]

easiest to hardest installations IMO;
0: chrome
1: windows
2: ubuntu
3: any other "sane" linux distro
4: arch (if you use archinstall)
...
57: arch (if you don't use archinstall)
58: gentoo
59: macOS (I hate this)
60: trying to run two minecraft mods at the same time

[brave brook]

At first glance, the laptop appears to have two 128GB SATA III solid-state drives from MyDigitalSSD (or, in the base model, two 64GB SSDs) arranged in a RAID 0 configuration for a total of 256GB (or 128GB in the base model). By itself, this move is already a bit strange, but opening the laptop up reveals even more mysteries: the SSD is actually one physical mSATA card that appears to the computer's operating system and BIOS as two distinct physical drives.

[cunning flume]

i instaled a new power suply and my sound is all mufled does anyone know how to fix it

[tired hawk]

they had NO REASON to accept the warranty and they could have refused it sooo easily yet they didn't

[frail delta]

Installing macOS is easy

[tired hawk]

that's the thing that I love about Acer

and it was the 2nd time I sent it to warranty

[limpid dune]

on a mac, yeah

on a non-mac? oh my LORD

[frail delta]

Duh

[tired hawk]

gosh the memories

I was able to do it with some help by a reddit dude

[frail delta]

Why would it be easy to do that?

[limpid dune]

I've semi-successfully hackintoshed my thinkpad T440s and it's still a garbled mess

[tired hawk]

why? because the hardware is quite similar, but it's hard because undocumented

[brave brook]

also new hackintosh in 2025 is such a waste of time and resources

[frail delta]

It's very well documented though...

[tired hawk]

naaaah

you're telling me that apple hardware is documented?

[brave brook]

i fully expect Apple go say "ciao" to Intel macOS this fall

[tired hawk]

yo are you Italian or did you learn your first Italian word

[frail delta]

Surprised they've held on so long

[frail delta]

?

[limpid dune]

threadripper hackintosh is still half-reasonable if you need tons of cores and don't have money for a full M4 pro

given that it's faster than an M4

[tired hawk]

do you know what I'm saying?

[frail delta]

If you need the cores but can't afford an M4 Pro, you don't need the cores

[limpid dune]

although "threadripper hackintosh" and "reasonable" don't usually go in the same sentence

[rigid fjord]

found the image

[brave brook]

lol not italian, just tried to say some greetings in non-english. was thinking about saying sayonara too 😄

[true stirrup]

I love how every windows update breaks something for me... I love how audio just doesn't work anymore now 🥲

[tired hawk]

that was hello in Italian

but it also means bye

depends on context

[frail delta]

vafanculo

[tired hawk]

2 f not 1

[frail delta]

/s

[frail delta]

I tried

[tired hawk]

try again with 2 f this time

[frail delta]

vaffanculo

[tired hawk]

haha get reported xdd (jk)

[rigid fjord]

things you fear the iq of people have

[limpid dune]

absolutely not. even Linux doesn't have drivers for apfs because nobody knows how tf it works. There are some prototype drivers that can sometimes give read-only access, though.

MacOS does actually have the correct drivers for my thinkpad, but MacOS is shite for actually detecting what hardware is plugged in (it expects all devices to be listed in a config file because mac), so you have to manually enable drivers

[brave brook]

i mean most is 2018 and later, which is also often the last model, and they didn't change this for Sequioa with very few exceptions, which is suspicious, as i think they just kept it and then now they will drop it

[frail delta]

Why would macOS need to detect the hardware?

It's like being annoyed your fancy new sports car can't go off road

[tired hawk]

well this is Sonoma, idk sequoia, but as soon as the last computer supported is from 2020 then the release after they can ditch Intel

[limpid dune]

exactly, it has almost zero ability to detect anything, which is OK for most computers...

...but really bad for hackintoshes, because you have to explain to macOS where each USB port is

[tired hawk]

because the last Intel Mac was released in 2021 iirc

[limpid dune]

for some reason I keep seeing patch notes for people that are making Raptor Lake work on Sequoia 🤷‍♂️

[brave brook]

mostly the same

[frail delta]

"This thing is bad because it isn't easy to do something it was never intended to do"

[brave brook]

i think the only change was Macbook Air

[tired hawk]

ok, my bets is 2030 is the last year of Intel Macs

[limpid dune]

given that Haswell macs were supported until like 2021, yeah

[brave brook]

not happening. 2025 or 2026 is the cutoff

[tired hawk]

because the 2011 MacBook pro was supported for like 7 years

the 2010 and 2009 8 and 9

(no wait remove 1 from each year)

last version of high Sierra was released in 2017

[brave brook]

remember last time Apple changed architectures ? This chart does

[tired hawk]

yo I was right* except for the 2009

apparently the last version of high Sierra was in 2018

[brave brook]

also powerpc to Intel meant support cut to just 4-5 years

[tired hawk]

also gotta consider this

[brave brook]

so yeah, i fully expect this Sequioa to be last Intel macOS

[frail delta]

What is this

[tired hawk]

nah the one before the last

[tired hawk]

the fact that they can ditch Intel support and people won't notice

almost everyone either already has an unsupported Mac or an m1 mac

[limpid dune]

I was looking inside my bf's macbook pro and I was jumpscared by an i5-7260U with 64MB of DRAM

[brave brook]

also i don't consider patch versions of older releases as relevant, at least to me. Apple Developer program requirements do not care about patch versions 🙂

[tired hawk]

luckily they went apple silicon

cus that does NOT scream pro

not at all

[quick hamlet]

why is every assetto corsa mod paid uh

[frail delta]

@limpid dune What’re you doing there near Alice Springs

[limpid dune]

experiments involving large radio dishes and unusual spiders, nothin to see mate

[frail delta]

Can I come see your big balls?

[brave brook]

Apps uploaded to App Store Connect must be built with Xcode 15 for iOS 17, iPadOS 17, tvOS 17, or watchOS 10 starting April 29, 2024.

Surprised they didn't increased it this April to Xcode 16, but that gives my Intel mac at least 1.5-2.5 years of lifetime for iOS development

[cyan bay]

is this fr?

[limpid dune]

since when did apple use good quality components? since the apple ][, the idea has always been to use subpar CPU/RAM but to crank up the graphics and make it really flashy. Windows ease, Linux responsiveness

[brave brook]

and this is the worst part of it. Apple updates their Xcode requirements usually once a year (Not this year), and that often brings the requirement to upgrade macOS, which after Apple drops Intel macOS will mean i have to get an ARM Mac

[ripe spire]

5070:

[brave brook]

i got two supported Intel Macs 😄

[limpid dune]

oh wait the i5-7620U is a dualcore? 💀 nvm I guess my bf is not gaming

bro NEEDS that 64MB of L4 cache, his DDR3 is at 1666 💀

[brave brook]

GeForce Now /s

[limpid dune]

geforce now, kidney later

[brave brook]

no, i mean the cloud service 😄

[frail delta]

Nobody will ever need more than two cores and 640kb of memory

[ripe spire]

This should be their advertising

[limpid dune]

MacOS saw my 8GB of DDR3-1600 and said "😇 don't worry, our Unified Memory Algorithms will save you" and it still shit the bed

[limpid dune]

this is a play on the old Intel Inside, Kidney Outside joke from... oh god, 2002?

[minor sleet]

Ok?

[true stirrup]

Anyone know if the Amazon voucher just takes off value from VAT and adds shipping? Because anything over 60€ has free shipping and I should be taxed VAT on this account

[minor sleet]

From what I’ve seen and experienced myself, those AI features help waaay more than hurt

[limpid dune]

one of my bros is lined up for a 5080 because I picked up a 4080S a few months ago... he's gonna be so disappointed when he learns they have pretty much exactly the same shader count/type/clocks, and marginally higher VRAM bandwidth

[brave brook]

to be fair, the ULV CPUs weren't horrible for what they were meant to be used - for ultrabooks. Thew fact that Apple used them even for Macbook Pro's is Apples fault

[limpid dune]

it'll make for some interesting benchmarks though

[west wagon]

does anyone know what this is? and should i delete it

[frail delta]

They should’ve used Core m3s in the MacBook Pros

They were fantastic chips

[brave brook]

that was the base 12" macbook

[frail delta]

Not at all horrible

[frail delta]

Should’ve

[brave brook]

1.2 GHz 2-core Intel Core M3-7Y32 Kaby Lake processor (Turbo Boost up to 3.0 GHz) in 2017 model with 8GB RAM 😄

[limpid dune]

damn, that might actually be what my BF has. I wasn't able to get an actual CPUID, only that it has a UHD 640 and is "an i5" except I notice it sometimes lies about that

hence why I went i5-7260U because that was the only i5 with a UHD640

[brave brook]

there was a 13" MBP with 2 TB3 ports which had 7360U

https://everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/specs/macbook-pro-core-i5-2.3-13-mid-2017-retina-display-no-touch-bar-specs.html

[limpid dune]

huh, yep, that looks correct

that's funny, I guess the i5-7360U isn't really in any of the databases

[brave brook]

Intel liked to make Apple specific CPU models

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/97535/intel-core-i57360u-processor-4m-cache-up-to-3-60-ghz/specifications.html

for example Mac Mini 2018 had a BGA versions of i3-8100, i5-8500 and i7-8700 https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/134892/intel-core-i58500b-processor-9m-cache-up-to-4-10-ghz/specifications.html

[weary root]

Repasted my cpu and i love my new temps. with a side of shakey hands and crippleing anxiety but we got there in the end

[cunning flume]

i got new power suply and my sound is realy bad now what could be the problem

[burnt haven]

What's the rest of the folder tree?

[chilly zephyr]

should i go AM4/LGA1700/AM5 for my build?

[frail delta]

Looks like an Android virtual disk image

[trim idol]

AM5

[frail delta]

Do you have Android studio or some other Android emulator installed?

[burnt haven]

Am4 isn't cheaper by enough to make sense

[weary root]

what psu did u buy

[burnt haven]

Lga1700 might have some potential use cases for productivity

[weary root]

if its off brand its a ticking time bomb

[chilly zephyr]

i mean for iitx... it quite is

[trim idol]

There's honestly no choice for a new system right now other than AM5

[burnt haven]

I was looking at swapping my ITX setup to am5 recently...

[frail delta]

AM3!

[burnt haven]

Asrock b650i seems great value

[chilly zephyr]

FM2+

[frail delta]

Give me that bulldozer

[chilly zephyr]

same here

[burnt haven]

And am4 itx boards are rare and expensive

[cunning flume]

chieftec element series 700w

[trim idol]

There are really good ITX 620 boards out there. for AM5, 620 is quite good, not like prior generations

[burnt haven]

So much so it looks like i can sell my old one for more than I paid for it years ago

Yeah I was very tempted with the asrock a620i

[weary root]

Yeah...... best to refund it

[burnt haven]

It's basically identical to the a650

B650*

Same board, same vrms

[weary root]

I would not recomend cheeping out on a PSU

[trim idol]

I've built systems on the asrock a620i

[weary root]

NEVER EVER cheep out on a psu

[trim idol]

has been good

[burnt haven]

And a wee bit cheaper than the b650 version

[cunning flume]

why i got like 1650 with i3

[burnt haven]

Tempted to go a620i and 9800x3d just to see the discord outcry 😂

[weary root]

Its a cheep power supply which is not good

plus ive never heard of such company

[neat flame]

would work fine

[trim idol]

I can't help it... it's "cheap" not "cheep". "Cheep" is the sound a small bird makes

[minor sleet]

So you’re a dumbass who craves attention, got it

[minor sleet]

Also iirc a620 doesn’t support the 9800X3D at all

[cunning flume]

its only in serbia

[trim idol]

Kinda made sense with 7800x3d because how it couldn't overclock, but with 9800x3d, the 620 chipset will hold you back a lot

[burnt haven]

I wouldn't bother overclocking anyway

[weary root]

whats ur budget?

[burnt haven]

I don't have enough cooling for that

[trim idol]

can't even do pbo

and undervolts

[burnt haven]

I've never undervolted either, just xmp on and job done

[cunning flume]

i got it for 90

[true stirrup]

they have some good PSUs

[burnt haven]

Not worth the hassle for 5%

[trim idol]

Looks like the asrock 620s support the 9800x3ds

[burnt haven]

I can't see why it wouldn't

Currently they're the same price as the b650 so little point

[trim idol]

I didn't either, but Valk suggested it might not in the backscroll

[trim idol]

same price for ITX?

[cunning flume]

also i dont think its psu i had 200w before it

[burnt haven]

Yeah

[livid fern]

Chieftec element is e tier

[burnt haven]

A620i and b650i are both 160ish locally

[minor sleet]

XMP is OC

[burnt haven]

Previously I've seen the a620 down around 140

[cunning flume]

is that good?

[burnt haven]

A620 supports XMP anyway

[weary root]

Ight

[burnt haven]

Or expo etc

[livid fern]

no

Its A>B>C>D>E>F

D is for Apu builds. Anything below is avoid

[trim idol]

I cant see any itx 650s for $160...

[burnt haven]

I'm in the UK

[trim idol]

but the 620is are $149

[cunning flume]

i got 1650 with i3 9100f

[minor sleet]

I’m going a620 because it’s like 89.99 USD

[cunning flume]

they power through the motherboard they are realy weak

[trim idol]

which are you getting?

[minor sleet]

7600

[burnt haven]

Which board

[trim idol]

I meant which board for $89

[minor sleet]

The MSI pro something

69.98USD

[trim idol]

ah, but not ITX

[burnt haven]

Does it have vrm heatsinks?

Some of the lowest boards don't and can perform pretty poorly

[minor sleet]

I know :(

[trim idol]

Yeah, no MSIs under $100 USD have vrm heatsinks

[minor sleet]

Unrelated as I’m getting a damn 7600 that pulls like 4 watts

[trim idol]

fair

[minor sleet]

Maybe later I’ll upgrade to a 7700X but I’ll match it with a mobo upgrade anyway

[iron glen]

how do i get javascript to run stuff? not home rn but i tried just the file and then the path to the file and it still couldn't find it

[peak knot]

what are you trying to do exactly

[terse sorrel]

which skhynix die does this have?

https://www.ple.com.au/products/670493/team-t-force-delta-rgb-32gb-kit-2x16gb-ddr5-6000-c30-white?utm_source=CommissionFactory&utm_medium=Website&utm_content=&utm_campaign=39307&cf_aid=39307&cfclick=c3d0fea093564a389dfb7e891014137c

[minor sleet]

Sure it’s SK Hynix?

[peak knot]

not guarunteed to be any specific die

all you know is that it isnt m-die

[livid fern]

Teamgroup only uses hynix on ddr5 as far as i can tell

[lapis condor]

If it's 30-36-36 it's probably a-die

[chilly zephyr]

i need a god secondary ssd wich has some endurance

[livid fern]

Teamgroup dosent use anything else on that kit/ddr5

[peak knot]

patriot viper stuff is pretty good

[chilly zephyr]

wich one

[livid fern]

Vp4300l

[minor sleet]

Any

[peak knot]

ive never had problems with any of their SSDs

[livid fern]

Make sure its lite. Non lite is no to go

[minor sleet]

Kioxia <3

[tidal geyser]

any non QLC nvme should do fine

[livid fern]

@chilly zephyr what country?

[chilly zephyr]

no noname brands pls 🙂

[minor sleet]

Only saying them as no budget was outlined

[terse sorrel]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[chilly zephyr]

DEUTSCHLAND!

[livid fern]

And what capacity?

[tidal geyser]

are you insane

[chilly zephyr]

yes

[minor sleet]

Kioxia is the least noname SSD brand

[versed gazelle]

my pc is running out of storage do you guys recomend to get another ssd or just a hdd

[chilly zephyr]

never heard of them really

[minor sleet]

They manufacture the dies for tons of SSD’s you know and build the best SSD’s you can buy

[terse sorrel]

so a-die? means I can overclock 6000 kit to 6400?

[tidal geyser]

you know the services you are using now, there is probably a kioxia nvme cache drive helping you get the data faster

[tidal geyser]

SSD

[chilly zephyr]

OH WAIT

[trim idol]

You know... I'm just so tired of Steve and his "Gotcha!" style of videos. This is the last straw... I just can't anymore.

[peak knot]

i mean... a die can do 8000+ depending on setup lol

[livid fern]

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/266NnQ/western-digital-blue-sn580-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds200t3b0e
2tb
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/rqhv6h/western-digital-blue-sn580-1-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds100t3b0e
1tb

[chilly zephyr]

I THOUGHT OF STH ELSE

[minor sleet]

Doesn’t mean they’re a noname

[chilly zephyr]

FUCK; SORRY

[terse sorrel]

which does the t-force one have? it doesnt say on the spec sheet

[livid fern]

Vi5000 is Same hardware as original mp44l but i wouldnt get it neither

[peak knot]

i mean these were a die

[chilly zephyr]

I JUST REALISED

[minor sleet]

Kioxia is THEE SSD company bro

[peak knot]

not guarunteed to be a specific die as that can change

[lapis condor]

Steve got real sensational too quickly

[chilly zephyr]

YEAH

[minor sleet]

Good SSD’s tho, get one

[peak knot]

caps lock my guy

[livid fern]

Manufacturers dont list RAM die on their spec sheet 99% of the time

[peak knot]

only speciel edition dimms get that treatment

[minor sleet]

Get somethin a bit bigger than fucking 256

Their SAS drives are what I’d recommend

Also known as 90% of their SSD’s

[chilly zephyr]

there arent many options...

[lapis condor]

No you're supposed to encourage them to use all caps in longer messages :)

[terse sorrel]

is there a ram google sheets?

[minor sleet]

Pcpp doesn’t list SAS SSD’s, you’ll have to go to kioxia’s site

[chilly zephyr]

oh, ok

[minor sleet]

Pcpp doesn’t list SAS SSD’s, you’ll have to go to kioxia’s site

[burnt haven]

Why use SAS over nvme?

[livid fern]

buildzoid iirc had one for ddr4

[minor sleet]

That’s a Google question

[burnt haven]

Seems a bit pointless these days?

[raw trout]

Rate my set

[peak knot]

you cant trust them as ram models change their ICs more often than people think especially on a dimm as slow as 3000mhz

[burnt haven]

Well your the one recommending it...

[minor sleet]

I can not explain stuff well

Also I think SAS has some NVMe in it

[eternal cloak]

Then why the fuck did you recommend SAS

[quick stag]

morning.

[burnt haven]

Your maybe thinking of U.2 enterprise drives

[raw trout]

What

[eternal cloak]

It definitely doesn't, SAS was released in 2003

[minor sleet]

Because I can’t explain the difference, I can’t recommend it?

[raw trout]

Is- nice wallpaper

[burnt haven]

Which are 2.5" shaped but are still nvme

[minor sleet]

I think

[burnt haven]

Like the kioxia cm6s Linus has used a few times

[eternal cloak]

Yes
You're not convincing and quite frankly the fact you're recommending enterprise-grade drives is weird to begin with

[raw trout]

Did you know u can pay 50 dollars for a optiplex 7040 2.5 hhd attachment that can be 3d printed for 2 dollars

[burnt haven]

They're still nvme, just in a 2.5" from factor

[eternal cloak]

U.2 is a formfactor, just as M.2; it's both NVMe compatible

[minor sleet]

No budget was given and it’s a good drive

[terse sorrel]

what was the rated mhz on these kits?

[eternal cloak]

That's not an excuse for recommending drives that are gonna be a pita for the general consumer