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distant spade
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What do I put instead though? That's what I don't know.

dense python
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you go to a place

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you say "i would like to work here, i dont have experience but i need an opportunity. you started with no experience and eventually got an opportunity, that's what i'm looking for", that's how i got started and that's how my dad got started and that's how many people got started, you need to keep applying until someone finally goes "alright you can work here", be it a random store where you're a cashier or a waiter, experience is experience and with time you will have an easier time applying to other places, not everyone gets a good job at 18, almost no one does, most people start in a temporary job purely to gain some experience

harsh niche
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there's an opening at a carl's jr that is literally within viewing distance of my house and it would be awesome but idk if i'm too young

dense python
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how young are you and what country

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i assume USA, if you're 16 maybe you can get it, talk to your parents and try your luck, worst that can happen is a no

harsh niche
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the minimum age for a job in california is 14 with a permit from the school, my brother got a job at jack in the box and he's 16

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but the problem is carl's jr's hiring

dense python
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(this kinda went off topic so imma shut up but finish your thought process)

harsh niche
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i read somewhere they only hire 16 and up but i also heard about people younger in some rare cases, but idk. i think i would just be a good asset because i live so dang nabbin close, literally a 1 and a half minute walk

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oh yeah lmao

carmine wharf
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tbh idk if i should get a valve index anyway

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i dont use my quest that often and ive finished half life alyx already

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i can always buy it next year

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theres just not many vr games that i feel the need to play rn

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i can either buy an ipad that ill use every day, or i can get a valve index that while it is cooler, i wouldnt use as often and is much more expensive

gloomy crater
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I get that. I had the choice of either buying an expensive airsoft rifle and an inexpensive VR heatset (a quest 1) or only buying an expensive VR headset, and I ended up buying the rifle and the quest 1. Two months later that rifle was made obsolete by a newer, better, cheaper version, and I ended up having to buy an index anyway because I found the Quest's PC compatibility lacking.

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And now after spending like three months upgrading my setup to be able to run VR more effectively, my two main games are busted at the moment sadface

carmine wharf
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tbh ill probably get the ipad, and then save everything else towards nothing in particular, then if i decide i need an index ill get one

pastel echo
harsh niche
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sadly I am not 16 though

sullen linden
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Basically exactly what I said!

pastel echo
harsh niche
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I wonder if quartz is worth anything

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I’ve found a bunch in my backyard before, dunno where it came from but it’s inside of these Little Rock’s

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wtf is Little Rock’s and why does it keep autocorrecting to it

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I just wanna get a new case

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I have the money but that would cut my bank account in half and I just like having a cushion in case my monitor breaks or something

pastel echo
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What case do you have?

haughty thistle
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Ok, I didn't know what headset the discussion was about so I just threw my general knowledge in the room.
The CV1 requires at least 2 USB 3.0 connections. Technically speaking 3, but I found with just 2 (one for the HMD and one for one of the cameras) already works good enough.
Remember each camera on the CV1 requires a USB connection to the PC

harsh niche
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looking at one of the Lian li ones

sullen linden
haughty thistle
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I have the O11 Dynamic and it's a pretty neat case. Just don't expect to install any PCIe cards in the lowest slot of an ATX motherboard when you have Noctua Fans in the bottom

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Oh and the front glass panel is basically impossible to remove without touching either side of the glass...
But for the price, you don't really get anything comparable to it...

harsh niche
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yeah

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I just love how good and open it looks and the solid chassis

pastel echo
sullen linden
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ugh, sorry, I just woke up at that point and it was the first thing I saw, I could barely open my eyes 😂

thick nest
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well becoming a programmer needs more than this tbh

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its not as easy as just becoming a programmer

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i've now seen 10's of people just stop

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i havent seen one person that said he is going to start programming and actually program

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they just give up

thick nest
haughty thistle
sullen linden
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@distant spade There are many jobs you can do. Maybe setup a fiverr for like video editing and do some gags idk

thick nest
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i dont think i can count myself lol

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i've always wanted to make anything through code but then i found c#/unity/c++ i bought a laptop then made learned to code and develop 3d/2d/vr games too

flat pawn
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What were your first steps cb?

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I really didn't like coding when I was in college

sullen linden
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why does half life alyx not show on my steam?

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@flat pawn do you know?

flat pawn
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try just searching alyx?

haughty thistle
# flat pawn What were your first steps cb?

I started coding for Computer Craft. Automating certain tasks in Minecraft. It was actually a lot of fun and even ended up coding a basic user interface at some point. In retrospect it was all very bad code, but it was a start and fun doing so...

flat pawn
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not sure off the top of my head, that's a store search right?

sullen linden
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yes

sullen linden
flat pawn
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did you have any opinions about coding before coding for computer craft?

sullen linden
haughty thistle
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Not really. I mean I was quite into computers, but more in the sense of maybe a sysadmin perspective or something...

sullen linden
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not many games are showing

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blade and sorcery isnt showing either

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ohhhh

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its not showing because my account has content restrictions

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vr games are hella cheap

flat pawn
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did you check out the other ones I mentioned before?

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and the other one mentioned, gorn

sullen linden
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i checked out blade and sorcery

flat pawn
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talos principle vr, dirt rally/project cars/assetto corsa, walking dead, myst/obduction, psychonauts

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you can skip dirt/project cars/assetto corsa if you aren't into racing games

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walking dead has a lot of polish

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talos principle and myst/obduction are puzzly, exploration games

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psychonauts is psychonauts

sullen linden
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a bit like i expect you to die?

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i love that game

flat pawn
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hmm

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I guess the difference would be

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you aren't restricted to sitting in one place

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and no time limits

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puzzle games

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if you like portal you'll probably like talos principle

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oh also pistol whip is neat

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shooting rhythm game

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instead of slicing rhythm game like beat saber

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not as much content as beat saber but it's a neat idea

sullen linden
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If i buy beat saber on the quest store

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can i still mod it with sidequest?

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@flat pawn

pastel echo
sullen linden
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What is the easiest way? Can you be banned for it?

pastel echo
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Worst case scenario you just lose developer access

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I don't know easiest way I have Pc beat saber so I just don't chance it

sullen linden
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How many songs are there on the original version of it?

harsh niche
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@sullen linden did you not read this

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wait your account has content restrictions??

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is it owned by your parents or can you just turn them off

sullen linden
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its owned by me

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idk, i saw it after

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but i dont have preferences on at all

flat pawn
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You didn't block why tags or anything like that?

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https://store.steampowered.com/app/546560/HalfLife_Alyx/

Steam
Half-Life: Alyx

Half-Life: Alyx is Valve’s VR return to the Half-Life series. It’s the story of an impossible fight against a vicious alien race known as the Combine, set between the events of Half-Life and Half-Life 2. Playing as Alyx Vance, you are humanity’s only chance for survival. The Combine’s control of the planet since the Black Mesa incident has only...

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$59.99

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What happens if you click this

sullen linden
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it takes me to it

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but the website

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where im not signed in

harsh niche
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then sign in

sullen linden
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that was turned off

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its there now

flat pawn
pale orbit
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valve index 2

crisp nymph
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Lmao

thick nest
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i started with a couple tutorials of unity then tried to make my first game it was hella fun and had potential but one day i turn on my laptop and see a dead hard drive that had everything on it we sent it back to the store they said they could fix it they did but no data back so i had to give up on 3 months of work

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but i continued after a 2 week break and made a mobile game for ios and android

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now i work for a group and make a ton of indie games but havent published alot since they take alot of time to finish

distant spade
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I begged my mom and now I'm getting it, can't wait to touch some anime bobs in VR

pastel echo
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lol

harsh niche
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in my opinion vr games for "special" activities just aren't where they could be at the moment, mostly just physics and interactive ability and graphics

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some people tried but fall short in some things that just ruin the rest

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not going to put any game names because im afraid of getting muted or something lol

zinc timber
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the real problem is designers trying to force you to use both hands

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like, there are plenty of buttons on a single controller

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and menus exist

gloomy crater
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I saw a pretty impressive physics demonstration on twitter a while back but still, required both hands

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I also know of a free game on steam that's an adult VR game but it has $173 of DLC which gave me a chuckle

harsh niche
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oh yeah i know which one you're talking about

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that one also looks like it's out of 1997 lol

gloomy crater
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it looks like a fallout new vegas mod imo

pale orbit
olive zinc
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🤔

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Does Oculus Link really need to be 5GB?

sleek marsh
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Would somone help me

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!help

pastel echo
sleek marsh
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@pastel echo ok

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My question is that when i enable oculus link it goes black, but when I disable my ryezn 7 3750H it works but low fps

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I have usb 3

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And compativle specs

pastel echo
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What's the GPU @sleek marsh

sleek marsh
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my gpu

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its geforce 1660 ti

pastel echo
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Oculus or steamVR

sleek marsh
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oculus

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when i enable link its just goes black

pastel echo
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Check your oculus device settings for render resolution or hz stuff like that

sleek marsh
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how do i do that

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lol

harsh niche
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quality settings underneath the device tab

pastel echo
sleek marsh
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ohh ok thank you man

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wait

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is that for oculsu 2 or 1

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ok

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so i changed to 90 hz

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@pastel echo i have 3 loading dots now

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for link

olive zinc
sleek marsh
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wym

olive zinc
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its like half out of the socket and kinda not straight

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but it is a 10 foot cable on an adapter

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soooo

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Also, not really getting very far here

pastel echo
sleek marsh
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Is this for link

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like turn it down to what

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ill take pic of current settings

pastel echo
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Just go for as low as possible

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If it still has bad FPS then you know this isn't the issue

sleek marsh
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no remember i cant get into link lol

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its just loadin gdots or black screen

pastel echo
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You said you can with the ryzen disabled

sleek marsh
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yes

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buts its quite laggy lol

pastel echo
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I am literally attempting to help you diagnose and fix that

sleek marsh
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thanks

pastel echo
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Turn those settings down to the minimum, disable your ryzen, then try it

sleek marsh
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so 72 hz

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and what about resolution

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lowest

pastel echo
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Low as possible

sleek marsh
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ok

pastel echo
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After you do that, disable the ryzen, and try testing if it's laggy lemme know what happens

sleek marsh
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when i disable it my second monitory turns off

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but here i go

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@pastel echo

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It’s really laggy

pastel echo
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Fuuuuq bro

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you on a laptop? @sleek marsh

sleek marsh
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Yes

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@pastel echo yes I am

pastel echo
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alright what laptop

sleek marsh
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Asus rog zepheryus

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Specs are GeForce 1660 ti

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16gb ram

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Amd ryEn 7 3750H

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@pastel echo y

sleek marsh
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@pastel echo u there

pastel echo
sleek marsh
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Oh

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Ah man

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I really spent $20 on a game I can’t play

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I tried virtual desktop

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But for some reason it’s too laggy

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But when it streams to my monitor its perfect and looks good just not on my headset

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@pastel echo do u know any professional

haughty thistle
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Honestly, to me it sounds like either the CPU is clocking down due to overheating or some IO bottleneck. Probably the latter tho...

sleek marsh
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Huh

hollow lotus
haughty thistle
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I'd say for any cable longer then 2m you should much more look into a shorter Type-C cable and then use an active extension cable to retain signal integrity

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Besides, for VR I'd much rather suggest going with a cable longer then you'll need. It means the cable is much less likely to interfere with your gaming session and it makes VR more freeing imo

pulsar steeple
thick nest
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using a usb port on the back side should fix it too

olive zinc
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It was none of those options

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Oculus just has pretty damm bad instruction manuals

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They didn't mention anything about the headset itself needs set up first

thick nest
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uhh well i think in their prespective they expected nobody to say that

pastel echo
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Lol I mean you set up your phone before syncing pictures with your computer right? I didn't need an instruction manual to tell me that haha

thick nest
sleek marsh
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@pulsar steeple wym put in back

sleek marsh
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@pastel echo my link works now it’s just the quality isn’t the same as when it streams to my desktop

olive zinc
harsh heron
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can the oculus link cable charge the quest 2 during gameplay

harsh niche
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it doesn't hold a charge but lasts a lot longer than on battery alone

harsh heron
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thanks

olive zinc
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hey lads

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how do I use my microphone built into the Quest?

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I try, but no VR game registers any input of any kind, both from my PC mic and Oculus mic

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My Q2 mic isn't working at all

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🤔

sleek marsh
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hello

pastel echo
olive zinc
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No, I am not

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My Quest 2 mic is reporting a constant 50% noise though

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And it is enabled in Windows, Oculus, and the game

pastel echo
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Oh you meant while using link

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What are you plugging into?

olive zinc
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My desktop PC over USB 3.0

pastel echo
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Usb-c or usb-a

olive zinc
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Both ish

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USB C cable into a USB A adapter

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The link speed is USB 3.0 as reported by the Oculus app

dull tide
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Anyone buy the 256 GB quest 2?

pastel echo
dull tide
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what games do you load on it? i was thinking of getting the costco one but its only 256.

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im returning my valve index. my playspace is too restrictive and I want to do wifi

pastel echo
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Not that many at the moment but I like the freedom and resale value that comes with having the larger size

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Also I don't like the idea of ever having to delete and redownload games

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In my mind 256 is the default option
64 is for PCVR or budget

dull tide
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Same. I save all optional files but delete the base game.

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i've seen to make steam workshop mods get nuked for no real reason, like voice packs or player models.

pastel echo
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Ignore the reply

dull tide
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what games do you have on it and how much room does it take? im planning on going primarily PCVR though.

pastel echo
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But as for what I have loaded on it right now, Beat Saber, Job Simulator, Eleven, Pistol Whip, Super Hot, Echo, Netflix, YouTube, HiBow, Onward, Recroom, Virtual Desktop, VRchat, Pavlov, Cubism. I'll check how much space all this takes in a few minutes

dull tide
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what other accessories did you get for it?

pastel echo
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Velcro straps to strap a battery to the back (I already owned the battery pack), a carrying case, cables, adapters and such for oculus link, and cable ties for running cables through

pastel echo
dull tide
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I have a pack too. Was thinking of getting the rigid kit, or even the battery kit

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I’ve seen some battery kit mods too

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How much did the setup cost in total? $600’or so?

pastel echo
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Nah

pastel echo
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100 for the games

dull tide
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Where’d you get it?

pastel echo
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I also got robo recall currently using 21Gb

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As in total

pastel echo
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Plus 100 for games

dull tide
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Interesting. Got any links to the stuff you’d use again? Creating a wish list

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Also don’t those have on board gameplay recording?

pastel echo
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Yes they so

inner oak
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i realy want Pistol Whip

primal night
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Then get it

inner oak
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aa dont have $25

sullen linden
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Do I get 64gb quest with prostrap and battery or just 256gb version @pastel echo

haughty thistle
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I'd highly suggest the pro-strap if you intend on using the device for longer Playsessions

sullen linden
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Ill try get the pro strap with battery and the quest 2 256gb but it might have to be the 64gb

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can you change the storage in it?

haughty thistle
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Nope. But from my experience with the OG Quest, 64GB is fine

sullen linden
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How many games do you have on it?

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I read that you can get around 24 games on it with 64gb

haughty thistle
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Depends on the games. I don't use my Quest too much, mostly because I don't feel like giving Facebook my money and because I can usually play the same games in a much better Quality on PC

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I know a lot of OG Quest Owners never really reached the point where the larger storage is required

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I have Beat Saber, The Climb, Job Simulator, the 3 StarWars Games and a bunch of custom songs on my Quest. Still less then a quarter of storage in use

sullen linden
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id be able to fit all of these on a 64gb then right @haughty thistle

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thick nest
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i think

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it would be just better if you search each game size or just go in the description

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then add them up

sullen linden
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Can you get mods for blade and sorcery if you buy through quest store?

thick nest
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i dont think so

sullen linden
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i might have to get that on steam then instead

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you can get beat sabre mods if you buy on the quest store right?

thick nest
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im pretty sure yeah

sullen linden
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is that through sidequest?

thick nest
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you can watch a tutorial for that

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most of the questions you asked i found their answers on google

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actually all

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or even youtube

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its faster than getting the exact same help here

sullen linden
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Do i get the elite strap or the elite strap with battery pack?

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Ive decided to just yolo it and get the quest 2 256gb with the elite strap and battery pack

thick nest
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ok

haughty thistle
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About Beat Saber mods:
For the Quest the only mods you can really get are Custom Songs and some menu visual stuff. Other then that, if you want to mod the game, PC is where it's at

sullen linden
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Yeah, all I was looking for was custom songs, I don’t need anything else

haughty thistle
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I'm just gonna throw out there: Some custom songs require additional mods like Mapping Extensions or Noodle Extensions. Others get improved by additional mods, but it's not required like with Chroma

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Just to give an Example, here's a map that uses both Noodle Extensions and Chroma: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foiwOaYRPuA

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harsh niche
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most games are only like 2gb

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pretty sure i expect you to die is only like 500mb

thick nest
haughty thistle
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Yep

thick nest
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yeah like he said ez pz then

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just me or when i played shrek the entire movie in beat saber there was a huge pink line accross the screen

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it was only in the shrek level

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it was quite wierd actually

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and it was only on one screen

haughty thistle
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You played it on the Quest?

thick nest
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steam with link to quest 2

haughty thistle
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Huh...

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That's weird

thick nest
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same here i was super confused

haughty thistle
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I tried the Shrek Map, but haven't seen anything like that

thick nest
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i even wanted to stop and look to see if it was broken

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but i continuned bc i had 20 mins left

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as soon as i left it went away

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want me to take a picture of it

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through the lens

haughty thistle
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It sounds more like a bug then anything

thick nest
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yeah

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i was super worried

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and when i stopped i realized that geforce expierence only recorded 11 mins

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and LIV crashed

haughty thistle
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F

thick nest
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f

sullen linden
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im probably going to go for the 64gb version then

pastel echo
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@sullen linden personal opinion I wouldn't go for the battery thing because my play sessions are either long enough to not need it or long enough that I need a bigger battery then they offer

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Also the case is not as big as I would like because I put my oculus link adapters and cables in it as well

sullen linden
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But what if I need longer than the 2 hours of battery?

pastel echo
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This is what I do

sullen linden
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So wouldn’t the elite strap with battery just be easier?

pastel echo
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My battery is 2-3 times the size of the elite strap battery so no for me I prefer mine

sullen linden
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Plus many people will be using it anyway so it’s easier adjustment

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How long do you get?

pastel echo
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I haven't tried longer than 6 hours yet so I don't know how long it would go

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But if you have hella people using it just do elite battery strap then, if it's ever a real problem you can always switch straps when needed and still do what I did

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Still add a cable tie or something to reduce port stress though because the battery strap cable is not an L cable

sullen linden
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I’ve read that the battery on it is far too heavy, I may just get the elite strap

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How long does the quest take to charge?

pastel echo
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Like 2 hours

sullen linden
haughty thistle
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You have to keep in mind that many devices charge slower then they can discharge to preserve the life span of the battery. Many battery banks do so, and I think the Quest falls somewhere in the same ballpark

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Pro-Tip: if you want your phones battery to stay healthy for a long time, never fast-charge it, and never leave it plugged in for longer then necessary for charging Thinkabtit

inner oak
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its not charging well with the micro usb plugin

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and when i dont have it pluged in it just has no battery and dies in like 10sec

harsh niche
rustic garnet
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How's samsung odyssey tracking compared to rift cv1?

gloomy crater
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ofc as soon as I discovered custom platforms for beatsaber, a core game update came along and broke all the mods. So now I gotta wait until stuff like noodle extensions and multiplayer extensions are fixed

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I haven't had the grey screen glitch happening ingame as much recently so idk if it's fixed permanently but I've been able to play semi normally again.

pale orbit
haughty thistle
molten phoenix
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is getting a quest 2 for wireless gaming from my pc worth it

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with virtual desktop and such

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and does the elite strap provide more battery?

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or how do i get over 2 hours?

umbral garden
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but it appears that you cant get the one with battery included without getting the case too so, that's annoying

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guess facebook really wants you to buy a powerbank

astral ore
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Just got my Vive Pro set up, can't wait to play HL:A

thick nest
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niceee

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i tried alvr today

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turns out i had an alpha version

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so it was super wierd

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but now it works perfectly

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50ms of latency

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i can play on 200ms it doesnt matter for me

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everything was great

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but tracking was super wierd

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though very good for anything other than beat saber

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and i played in the room next to the room my pc and router were in and nothing changed same latency

sullen linden
pastel echo
sullen linden
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steam

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"steam vr performance test"

pastel echo
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Is steam vr performance a steam app or is it somewhere in the settings

sullen linden
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app

pastel echo
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Aight cool

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Need the headset plugged in or is it cool enough to not need that?

rustic garnet
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It's for testing if your system could run VR, so you know if it's worth getting a headset

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So no you don't need a HMD

pastel echo
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Okay cool because I don't feel like plugging in to run the test

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I think my computer will hit 80% capable I just wanna test for funsies

lavish moon
pastel echo
lavish moon
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But why 😛

pastel echo
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Because that's the dumbest part to screenshot

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No specs and no colorful bar bruh what

pastel echo
haughty thistle
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Well... depends on the headset

pastel echo
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sucks to be that guy

haughty thistle
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Those "VR-Readiness" Apps from Valve and Facebook both test against expected numbers for 2016 VR games on an OG Vive or Rift CV1 respectively

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WMR compatibility check is even worse, as it just checks whether or not you can use the headset, not how good the experience will be...

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If you want to test for VR performance use something like Superposition VR Benchmark

pastel echo
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Posting this again so I can compare it to what valve says in a minute

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haughty thistle
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And besides that, since every headset is different in performance numbers on every single system, it's best to check the general compatibility based on user reports, buy and then test it yourself. Worst Case you just make use of the return window you get from your retailer

pastel echo
gloomy crater
pastel echo
haughty thistle
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GA104... Isn't that like the 1070?

gloomy crater
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Yeah it seems Zotac messed up the designation on my card or something

haughty thistle
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*3070. Sorry, my bad

gloomy crater
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It's a 3070 twin edge

pastel echo
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It really do be integrated into the PCIe slot haha

haughty thistle
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GP104 is the 1070. Messed up the codenames ther xD

gloomy crater
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I had to check what the resolution was for an index at 120% scaling. I expected higher temps tbh because this 2 fan gpu cooling solution from zotac doesn't look the greatest but I guess it performs pretty good

haughty thistle
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In an absolute surprise to no one...
Well, if you want to play on the Reverb at 100% scaling, it's pretty much only one of your 4 options (the others being the RX 6800/6900 and Titan RTX)

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(and yes, I did select the same resolution as Jay for comparison sakes)

gloomy crater
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I was planning on buying a 6800XT aorus master, but seeing as how it doesn't exist, and Nvidia cards were much easier to get ahold of, I went for a 3070. Maybe next generation if I can find a 6800XT for MSRP I'll buy it to keep around, but I don't plan on playing anything that results in me desperately needing a new GPU in my main rig until RDNA3/4/Hopper/(Insert other new MCM GPU design architecture here) releases. Except for maybe cyberpunk

flat pawn
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can I run that benchmark for free?

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@pastel echo

pastel echo
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@flat pawn yes

flat pawn
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nice

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once I'm off work I want to try it

gentle coral
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I really wish the 3D mark VRmark benchmarks (all three), were free, as I find them to be some of the best tests for VR benchmarking.

umbral garden
gloomy crater
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Huh. I'm curious as to why you chose those settings for the benchmark

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Isn't VR Future and high texture settings for figuring out if your hardware will hold up for titles that don't exist yet by throwing an unrealistic load at your rig?

haughty thistle
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Yep. Better test against VR Maximum or VR High for better real-world testing

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VR Medium might still be representing some of the less demanding VR titles, but I wouldn't necessarily bet my money on that

pastel echo
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Benefit to gamer laptop, I no longer concern myself with having space in my room for VR, I can simply go to another room

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(with quest 2)

gentle coral
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The problem with VR future on most benchmarks is that people rarely test at 4k or higher resolution with DX12 or Vulcan, with a target of 120fps.

I wish one of the current benchmarks would go through a ton of different settings and tell you where it would land based on the type of game or VR headset. This would help perspective buyers a lot.

thick nest
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or quest 1

pastel echo
umbral garden
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wasnt really a reasoning behind it

gloomy crater
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I see I see

vital river
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Not sure if you hear but there a buzz sound

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Not the case or cpu fans

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Just started recently

tiny zinc
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@vital river most likely a fan bearing that is worn out

vital river
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I've had this computer for 6 months

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And it has not been making the noise for the last hour

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My mind is officially boggled

sullen linden
sullen linden
soft hound
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I'm partial to the Baymax one personally

harsh niche
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baymax

thick nest
flat pawn
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100% baymax

vital river
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I think the eyes should be a little bigger but maybe that’s just me

sullen linden
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i mean this is so freaking sick

placid linden
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i still have a quest 1 and i think im gonna hold off until the next quest

sullen linden
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if they release the next quest

pale orbit
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they said the other day it's already being made

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in the investor call or whatever

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`looking to the future, Zuckerberg confirmed that Quest 2’s successor is already in development.

“We’re continuing to work on new [VR] hardware as well. The new hardware will fit the same platform, so the content that works on Quest 2 should be forward-compatible [with the new hardware], so that we’re going to build one larger install base around the virtual reality headsets that we have.”`

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they could hammer these things out almost yearly just like new cellphone models, as that's basically what they are.

gloomy crater
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please let vive or whoever the hell release a standalone headset before more people get suckered into buying future generations of the quest platform. The virtual reality experience should not cost your privacy

distant spade
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why is the oculus app so broken, nothing is working for me

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also, anyone know how to fix error code 8602, has something to do with my sensors. 2 of my 3 sensors have this error and its annoying

haughty thistle
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In my experience having at least 1 USB 3.0 camera that shows up with a green dot will work relatively fine...
CV1 cameras are extremely picky when it comes to USB 3 extensions and controllers

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worst case you have to get a seperate USB controller card

distant spade
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i got a USB 3.0 card.

haughty thistle
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Did you make sure it was reported as working with the CV1?

distant spade
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uh

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fuck

haughty thistle
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Happens to the best of us. I managed to get it working with the built-in controller on my PC thankfully, but it's really messy and it still complaints about bad tracking quality sometimes on individual cameras...

distant spade
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one person in the reviews said they got it working with quest 2 but thats all i see relating to vr

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imma try it on a different pc though to be sure.

haughty thistle
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The only fix for Error 860X is to try different USB connectors. Maybe try a combination between the USB card and your Motherboard USBs.
Also note: Oculus only recommends up to 2 cameras plugged into USB 3 and all additional cameras into USB 2

sullen linden
pale orbit
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probably sometime 2022

sullen linden
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The new one probably won’t be much different to the quest 2 anyway

astral ore
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just started playing HL: Alyx

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it's so good wtf

flat pawn
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what other vr games have you played?

astral ore
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superhot

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that one lab game

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i'll try beat saber later

astral ore
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the vive controllers are better than I expected tbh

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especially for half life

gentle coral
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Just playtested a VR game someone is making at the Virtual branch of Global Game Jam 2021 that I am helping run, and the one issue I am angry about is that WMR controller mapping is still not even properly set up in UNITY in the SteamVR plugin. I am pretty sure this is on Windows for not having a good default map that is comparable to other controllers

flat pawn
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not too shabby for amd?

astral ore
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seems good

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ordered some index controllers to go with my vive

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vr is a money hole lmao

winged kettle
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I really enjoy my oculus quest 2, stand alone and linked

astral ore
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yeah the quests are great

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I went vive pro for the expandability

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since you can get a wireless adapter and use index controllers with it

winged kettle
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Yes that’s nice, I went quest to be sure that I won’t have motion sickness

astral ore
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yeah

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vrchat makes me motion sick, half life alyx sometimes too

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but i'm mostly ok

winged kettle
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Cheapest solution, and with the oculus link and a rtx3080 ❤️❤️❤️

astral ore
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yep

winged kettle
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So far the only “game” I had to spot because I was getting sick was Rollercoaster games

astral ore
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oh god those

winged kettle
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15s and I removed the headset and went outside to get some fresh air

astral ore
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yeah I usually just lay down when it makes me sick

astral ore
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literally unplayable

thick nest
sullen linden
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what's so bad about facebook though

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also, should I still get the quest 2 in march with the quest 3 coming?

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@thick nest

thick nest
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i'd suggest waiting for more leaks

gloomy crater
sullen linden
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I’ll just buy it anyway, the quest 3 won’t be a massive difference

pastel echo
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Facebook will still be required for social services so I don't mind it because I like playing with my friends

hushed pond
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does anyone here play vr with a rtx 3080 and a index? how it is like in term of performance? i play mostly vrchat and pavlov

flat pawn
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It's going to be able to max out in pavlov for sure

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Vrchat as always depends on tons of factors

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If you get a room full of unoptimized avatars you'll bring any computer to its knees

astral ore
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I play with a 3090 and it’s not that much different, every game has been great so far

hushed pond
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i have the 3080 in shipping

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so i just want to know what to expect

flat pawn
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Oh it's going to be way better though for sure

hushed pond
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and in pavlov i mostly play unoptimised zombie map

flat pawn
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You'll struggle to drop frames in any vr game that isn't vrchat

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Let's just put it that way

hushed pond
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will i be able to make use of the 144hz experimental option?

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in pavlov

flat pawn
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I'm sure of it

hushed pond
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that cool

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now im a lot more excited to get it monday

flat pawn
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I have a 6800XT and I was able to hit an average framerate of 148fps in a "maximum" benchmark with the rift s eye resolution

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Pavlov is definitely not as demanding as this benchmark

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And the 3080 and 6800XT are comparable cards

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@hushed pond there's some solid evidence that you'll be fine btw

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What cpu do you have though?

hushed pond
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3700X

flat pawn
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Oh yeah you'll be great

gentle coral
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Make sure the per eye resolution of the benchmark is set to the render resolution which is higher then the actual headset resolution at 100% render scaling. I think many VR benchmarks make this mistake sometimes.

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For rift s that would actually be 1648 x 1776 per eye.

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@flat pawn your render resolution per eye is currently the 100% scaling resolution for the rift CV1

flat pawn
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There weren't any options for resolution in that benchmark that I saw

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Just choosing your headset

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And "oculus rift" was the only option that made sense for me to pick

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Perhaps this benchmark was created before the rift s was released

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Or I just missed something

gloomy crater
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You have to manually input your resolution

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I had to set it to the correct resolution for an index at 120%

flat pawn
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I'll try re running it with 2648x1776 per eye later on then

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It was really late, decided to run the benchmark before going to bed, didn't put a lot of effort into it lol

sullen linden
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i recently downloaded oculus software, anyone know why its running in the background?

quiet radish
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Huh

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I don't know...

harsh niche
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it is always running

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that's so if you open a game it automatically launches the home or whatever

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you can disable it in services it got really annoying

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whenever i went into a game that supports vr, even if i wasn't in vr mode, it would launch and if i would close it it would close the game too

pastel echo
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I use oculus tray tool specifically to force it closed whenever I'm done playing VR

dull tide
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Anyone play Half Life Alyx with a Quest 2? I did 2 playthrougs with the Index, and I'm wondering ehats setup and config going to be like on the Quest 2. I'm expecting a 'lower graphical' experience for sure, but just wondering what everyone else had with it.

dull tide
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Well, that settles it. just placed an order for a Quest 2. Can anyone recommended a good set of 'knickle' grips/band?

pastel echo
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Hair ties and a cable tie

sullen linden
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If I buy Onward on the oculus store, can i play it on both the quest and in PCVR mode? @flat pawn

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@pastel echo do you know?

thick nest
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also is 4128x2096 a good res for q2

thick nest
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that is the res oculus desktop has oculus link on

thick nest
harsh niche
dapper nymph
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which one is better for virtual reality: 6800 xt or 2080 ti?

pale orbit
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has the 3070 so the 2080ti should roughly be the same as a comparison

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the RX 6800 XT only delivers higher unconstrained framerates in 4 of the 15 games we benchmarked versus the RTX 3080 although the RX 6800 does much better than the RX 3070 winning more than half of the benchmarks. It will also be interesting to see what AMD brings to this price segment with the upcoming RX 6700/XT.

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if the 6800 does better then the 3070 in vr then the 6800 xt will be even faster

dapper nymph
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okay thank you!

flat pawn
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@gentle coral thanks for the heads up about the resolution

gentle coral
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your welcome, I'm happy to see it didn't make much of a difference in your situation.

flat pawn
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Yeah, about 10 frames less on average

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Not bad

molten phoenix
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Should i make myself a frankenquest 2, or wait for the next quest in a year?

cloud ermine
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nvm

flat pawn
sullen linden
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why is my benchmark like god awful

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@flat pawn

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Bad pc

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its not even a bad pc tho lol

flat pawn
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you picked future

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pick maximum

sullen linden
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okay

flat pawn
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my future score sucks too lol

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everyone's should

sullen linden
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its literally like a mid-range / good pc

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Hmm

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it can handle any game at literally any settings you throw at it lol

flat pawn
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here, this is what I got for future

sullen linden
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wow

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really?

flat pawn
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barely better than yours

sullen linden
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we got very similar considering your specs

flat pawn
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yeah, just ignore the future benchmark though

sullen linden
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but your eye res is high

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my eye res is the res of the quest 2

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I just got a 3090😋

flat pawn
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mine is the rift s

sullen linden
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mine was the second best RTX series a few months ago

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RTx 3090 + AMD ryzen 9 3950x

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And 32 gigs of ram

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Cool. And I’m running a 3700x and a 2070 super

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32 gigs of ram

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Not in any means a bad pc

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Yes. I have a 2700x and a titan rtx on My streaming pc@sullen linden

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Cool, I’m 16 and work 3 hours a week?

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of course I can’t afford silly pc’s like that

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sweet

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we got pretty similar FPS tbh

sullen linden
flat pawn
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you tell em

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also nice

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your computer definitely isn't a slouch

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none of our computers are

sullen linden
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Indeed

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i think its pretty good for the price and specs ngl

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cant wait for half life alyx

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My Old pc had a rx 580 + ryzen 7 2700x

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Quite good

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but my 3700x and 2070
Super that I spent a year saving up for isnt?

umbral garden
thick nest
sullen linden
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10 hours seems excessive with school work too?

thick nest
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not really

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if i want to make a good game and actually not take years its the only option

thick nest
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i could have gone RTX 2060 and a 4 core ryzen cpu

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but i need that 6 cores for making games

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4 cores didnt do me well on my old laptop

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and turns out the 1660 super is alot more than i need and does all my things on high-ultra settings

umbral garden
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My guy gets like 4 hours of sleep lol

thick nest
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lol

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balancing time like you noticed is a big issue

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but if it gets too tight i just take a day off

dusky hound
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Has anyone use the oculus rift 2 with the link cable and how does it perform

pastel echo
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performs fine for me

frozen gorge
acoustic gate
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just sold his whole body

frozen gorge
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😆

bright wraith
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Ugh I tried running the vive on a 1050 ti but the laptop the gpu was in only had a hdmi for the intel integrated graphics

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it was not connected to the gpu or smt my guess is that it’s connected directly to the screen of the laptop

fathom sigil
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that would be the strangest design choice in existence

soft hound
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Not really, it's quite common, and rather annoying

thick nest
hushed pond
thick nest
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damn thasa thicc boi

hushed pond
eager walrus
lofty minnow
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any news on the deca gear ?

haughty thistle
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It's more like and ad then an actual news update...

distant spade
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It just won't track my touch controller, I've tried unplugging the 3rd sensor, nothing. I tried switching the usb ports they're in, nothing. I've tried moving the sensors, nothing. I've tried turning off the lights, idk what that would do but I just read that online, nothing. I've tried restarting Oculus, restarting my PC, still nothing.

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It worked once for a second but then said Oculus hardware error.

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Also, the white light is showing on all of the sensors so they are "working".

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Why do I have so many issues with VR :(

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The tracking was working fine but now it kept cutting out once in a while, maybe like every hour, but now it just stops tracking properly every like 10 seconds, really annoying in Beat saber.

haughty thistle
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The controllers still connect fine to the HMD, right?

coral sage
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is a 2060 enough for vr?

pastel echo
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Yes

sullen linden
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I ran it on my 2070 super, it did amazingly

coral sage
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yay

flat pawn
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@sullen linden run it with custom per-eye resolution instead

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what you have chosen is the preset for the original rift

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2060 is definitely enough for vr though

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even a 1060 can do it

thick nest
flat pawn
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yup yup

thick nest
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still pretty nice for a 2070 super ngl

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especially in this benchmark

pale orbit
haughty thistle
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Like every other headset in existence, the G2 does not render at it's physical resolution. This is due to lens correction and whatnot

pale orbit
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yes I know, I just wanted some arbitrary high setting way above any preset so I could compare my 580 and then 3070 I just shoved in my system.

haughty thistle
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I just wanted to mention that. Just in case someone interested in the G2 sees this and thinks "Huh... I can play with the G2 on my GPU"
Due to the G2 having a render resolution of 3164x3092 at 100%, a GPU with more then 14GB of VRAM is pretty much required (yes it pretty much runs at 6K resolution)

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If your GPU does not match the VRAM for the G2, turning down the render resolution is an option, just note that the image will look softer as you turn it down

pale orbit
sullen linden
signal void
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When you realize that valve's upcoming headset will literally be a mind controlled headset

sullen linden
signal void
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Im expecting it by 2025

flat pawn
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as long as it has generational improvements to resolution/refresh rate/field of view then I'm down

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also I think it would be neat if there was a way to combine inside out and outside in tracking to get the best of both worlds

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just a random idea but

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primarily uses inside out tracking but maybe one base station set up that catches any blindspots

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easy to use since base stations wouldn't be required, perfect tracking when using a base station, lower bar for entry

dull tide
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Took the leap and got a Quest 2 to replace my Index

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Got to say the display is a lot sharper than I thought it would be. Doesn’t have that epic FOV the index has, or the comfy controllers

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But for wireless PCVR. It isn’t bad at all.

pastel echo
dull tide
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Playplace too small for where I have it up. I’m better able to use it more if it’s standalone

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I need the ability to easily setup in various rooms

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I wasn’t able to play the index as much as I wanted to

pastel echo
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I understand that feeling

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even without the base stations to consider I find I can use the quest in much smaller spaces

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maybe because there is no cable restricting me to an orientation

sullen linden
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and that’s the reason I want a quest over anything else ^

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My room is small so being able to play in the Lounge or somewhere else would be so much easier

vapid tartan
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I have a vive with wireless but the pcie card is such shit, the drivers are from 2019 and it doesnt work right any more since i upgraded to a b550/5950x

dull tide
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I only had the index for 3 weeks so I didn’t have a cable suspension system, and the ceiling was too high for it. But man the controllers and FOV was great

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But since it was required to have it in a small space adjacent I ended up using auickturn for firefights and I was always “grounded” in one orientation due to the cable weight so firefights felt more like me teleporting from cover to cover than me dynamically jumping from cover to cover

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I mean the Knuckles are good.

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they're dammed good.

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and it feels wrong to use quest controllers stock to play hla.

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But with the Q2 I can play a lot more, and setting up guardian playspace is a lot faster with the oculus and its default passthrough camera than having to boot up steamVR and redefine my playplace every time move a chair to give me an extra footstep or two in the room.

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thats probably the best thing about the Q2 so far. just walking from my room to a vacant garage with an access point in it and just quickly drawing a playarea.

dull tide
sullen linden
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Call me crazy but I might just buy another index since I've had mine pretty much since it came out. I could set up 4 base stations and have a back up headset and controllers.

haughty thistle
# dull tide Wow. And for the buy in cost it seems extravagant. Would be nice if you could ju...

The problem with that is latency. You get much lower latency if the signal can be passed on from the encoder directly to the Antenna (like it is with the PCIe card). That's why for me Wireless VR with the Quest is absolute garbage. I'm very sensitive to latency and even on VD, the latency is just too much, whereas on the Vive Wireless Adapter it's like I have a cable running directly to my Vive Pro...

dull tide
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I'm also running a bunch of other programs just to make it work wirelessly.
virtual desktop, Quest, Steam VR, just more bloat.
At least with index its just steam VR

sullen linden
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guys would you recommend the quest 2 for a vr beginner?

haughty thistle
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I have the OG Quest, so that might have an effect on the latency. Fact is: VD doesn't recommend using a Wifi Stick as a HotSpot in your PC for wireless VR. This is because of A. you add another layer of package conversion so more latency and B. running a Wifi Stick as a HotSpot in general is quite a wonky situation. Overall, having your PC plugged directly into the Router that your Quest is connected to is the best way of lowering Latency. In my case there's a 10 Gbit/s Switch in between my Router and PC. Not optimal I know, but a Switch doesn't really add latency if it's a high-quality Switch, like the one I have

cloud ermine
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That's my personal opinion on the matter.

sullen linden
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i have a gtx 1660ti that's bottled necked by my god awful cpu

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do i still get the quest?

astral ore
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depends on the cpu

night dune
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Would a armour oc run hla?

gloomy crater
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I absolutely love my index and the experience it provides (aside from the grey screen thing, but I think that's because I have to replace my chord) except that I'm worried I'll be upgrading my HMD before long because of the various generational improvements other headsets have over the index. The index has a pretty small sweet spot, there's instances of weird circular light distortion depending on where on the lenses I'm looking, and it doesn't exactly have the best display resolution anymore. I don't know if I'd upgrade to a G2 because I'm not sure how I feel about WMR, and I don't plan on switching out this 3070 for a 6800XT until I can actually find one, which probably won't be until next year, so I wouldn't be able to get the best performance out of a G2 for a long time. I'm also not looking forward to having to buy my third pair of lenses for a different headset

acoustic gate
night dune
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6gb one

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@acoustic gate

gloomy crater
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So that could be one of like 7 different cards

night dune
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One sec

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It's a 8GB rx 580

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@gloomy crater

acoustic gate
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it should be able to run hla on medium decently with a decent cpu with it

night dune
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I'm going to use a i5 1060k

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@worl

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@acoustic gate

haughty thistle
# gloomy crater I absolutely love my index and the experience it provides (aside from the grey s...

To be totally honest: The G2 isn't as much of an upgrade over the Index as some have previously made it out to be.
Yes, the Screen is sharper and you see more details. But that's where the upgrade ends. Imo the Lenses on the G2 are more in line with like the CV1 or OG Vive Lenses. Maybe the God Rays aren't as bad, but if you expect Index Level god rays, you'd be very disappointed. The edge clarity is horrendous on the G2. It might just be that the high res screens amplify the already existing issue, but it's actually quite bad. I do get that the sweet spot (so the area in which your eyes are lined up enough for the image to be sharp) is larger on the G2, meaning it's easier to find a spot where the image is sharp. But the clarity drops off quite drastically, as already mentioned with the edge clarity...
The colors on the Index still seem better to my eyes, and so do the black levels. The overall construction of the Index feels more sturdy and the speakers on the Index don't have contact pressure issues plus are easier to adjust.

If you are totally happy with your Index, but feel like the image is too blurry, I'd suggest you first try to crank the render scale to 200% and see if that changes your mind about the Index.
I'd still suggest the G2, if you mostly play simulation games as the higher resolution does give a noticeable benefit. But most roomscale VR experiences are designed with lower resolutions in mind and are just as great on an Index at 200% render resolution IMHO

gloomy crater
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My render scale atm is 120%, never really gone passed 150% tbh, maybe that's why the image quality doesn't look the best. I'll try it later

flat pawn
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do you think the idea I posted about yesterday is feasible

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or even good

gloomy crater
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I mean, the main draw of having inside out tracking is that it's relatively portable and wireless, requiring little to no setup. And the main draw of having base station tracking is that it's more accurate and alleviates blind spots by having multiple points of tracking rather than just your head. But by adding base stations to an otherwise inside out tracked setup, you're basically giving the setup the superior tracking but also getting rid of most of the benefits of inside out tracking. At that point you'd just be better off making wireless base stations.

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Actually, since the wires for base stations are just power cables, is there anything stopping me from just making a battery with the correct specifications and creating portable base stations?

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Cause if I could bring base stations with me wherever I go without having to plug them in, it would drastically increase my interest in standalone headsets like the quest 2 because I would still be able to use my knuckles, but portable-y

gloomy crater
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I've just been reminded of an idea for a VR game I was talking about with a friend a while back. It basically has the player play the game from the point of view of a severed head, and you have to control your body in order to cross a level and retrieve your head, and then make it back. I thought it was an interesting idea to control a character that whose point of view isn't attached to them

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I don't know if there are any games already like that though

haughty thistle
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It's actually exactly how the Vive wireless adapter supplies 12V to the HMD, by requiring a battery bank that can supply 12V via the QC3 protocol

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It's not as easy as just wiring up the power pins of a USB cable to a barrel plug unfortunatly

flat pawn
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@gloomy crater did you catch the part where the base stations are not required though?

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and that if you wanted perfect tracking only one base station would be needed due to most of the tracking work being done by inside out tracking?

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portable base station sounds awesome if it could work with this

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or be possible

gloomy crater
haughty thistle
# flat pawn and that if you wanted perfect tracking only one base station would be needed du...

Well... yes and no. Seen the tracking issues you'd get on Nolo or PSVR when facing away from the base station?
These issues might be alleviated by Inside-Out tracking, but you'd still notice a stark contrast between Inside-Out and Outside-In.
The reason why syncing up Inside-Out tracked headsets and Outside-In tracked controllers is so wonky is because the controllers are always perfectly tracked, while the HMD always has a bit of drift. You'd never notice that drift if the controllers drift by the same amount (what they do on Inside-Out tracked controllers), but if you switch between the two or try and merge them, you will notice this drifting of Inside-Out.
And that is without mentioning the additional weight required to incorporate both.

In my eyes a better solution would be something akin to how it's done on the XTAL. The HMD only comes with an IMU sensoring unit (required for all tracking systems), and then has tracking frames you can put onto the HMD to make it work with either SteamVR or something else like ARTrack. it still adds additional bulk tho (not really a concern on an HMD as heavy as the XTAL) which is exactly the opposite of what Facebook tried to do with the Quest 2...

flat pawn
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I have not looked into anything xtal or artrack

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not sure what those are

haughty thistle
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XTAL is an HMD from VRgenieers with a base price of I think >5k. ARTrack is a tracking system designed for use in heavy occluded areas like a frame of a car or similar. Both designed for corporate use

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ARTrack is also an Outside-In system in case you're wondering

flat pawn
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gotcha

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still using cameras or more than just that?

haughty thistle
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ARTrack uses I think reflectivity for tracking. Similar to a Kinect it has IR LEDs and IR cameras in each base station that connect up to a tracking box. That's all I can really find out about ARTrack tbh

vapid tartan
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Like, it could have been a drop in replacement for the other link box or add after it with a usb/hdmi/power cable like the headset itself

flat pawn
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technology really is fascinating

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happy to be alive

haughty thistle
# vapid tartan Like, it could have been a drop in replacement for the other link box or add aft...

The benefit of how HTC did it, is so they can siphon off the data spit out by SteamVR, before it even reaches the USB controller and whatnot.
The TPcast actually worked on a very similar principal as you proposed, except that it send the USB signal completely separate from the HDMI signal (USB over a standard TPlink 5GHz Wifi router with special firmare and HDMI over a 60GHz wireless HDMI link). The Problems I've heard that people had with the TPcast were enormous, some down to just because of their decision to go off-the-shelf rather then specially designed, but others just due to how they tried to make the wireless link as invisible to the PC as possible. The TPcast had cut into the FOV as the compression hardware in their 60GHz link maxed out at a slightly lower res then the supported HMDs ran on (OG Vive and Rift CV1) and certain USB devices were turned off to ensure a better transmission of the tracking data. The Camera on the Vive did not work and so did the mic on both HMDs. There was a custom made firmware that fixed the mic issue, but apparently it was a pain to set up...

gloomy crater
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So I'm a bit conflicted on this: I bought my index from a person I met in this very channel, the full kit for $650. Only thing is that it was a barely used kit from launch era, so this kit was in the box pretty much since the index came out, which means it has all of the issues that the first generation index has. Like not being able to click the sticks while pressing them in any direction, or having the clip snap off (don't worry I already reinforced it before I even started using it) but my issue is that I don't know whether I should try and get my stuff replaced with the newer versions BEFORE something breaks, or wait until it happens. Heck, I don't even know if my grey screen issue is happening because of my cable/hmd/base stations or if it's a software issue or whatever, but I'm already planning on replacing my chord just in case that's the issue.

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Like, I don't wanna be like 'hey valve support, can I get new (literally everything from the kit) in case mine falls victim to any of the design flaws from its generation of hardware' but I also don't wanna be stuck without any of my kit for an extended time while I wait for it to be replaced after something does fail

haughty thistle
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I don't think Valve will replace parts for you on the expectation that it might fail. The gray screen issue, I had too. My guess is that the optical fibres carrying the USB signal aren't as well protected as the DP fibres, so it might actually be an early indicator for a failing cable. But I'm not 100% sure on this, as I've not heard anyone have this issue with the newer replacement cables or newer Index sets, even if they had the cable fail on them

gloomy crater
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I can't see any visible damage on the cable, but I did catch my cat chewing on it last week. I'll inspect it again for damage before I go looking for a replacement just in case

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I've heard tell the only non-valve replacement is over $100, so I'm not hopeful

haughty thistle
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There are non-Valve replacement cables? Probably just old cables from other Indexes that had other faults to them, right?

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I haven't seen any third party cables for any headset with a proprietary connector, other then the TPcast interface cable for the CV1...

gloomy crater
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I just searched a bit, they appear to be made by a company called Trebleet, who are selling them for $130 on their own website, Ebay, and Amazon

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I can't find any info on how they're manufactured or where they come from though

haughty thistle
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Based on the picture they've posted on Amazon, I'd guess it's the same cable that Valve ships with the Index and as a replacement cable.
If I had to guess how this came to be, then I'd probably assume that Valve asked a thrid party to design the cable, and they now use their right to sell it. Either that or the Chinese factory in which they are made are selling this cable willy-nilly to anyone who asks cbWhatever

gloomy crater
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uhh. This makes me uncomfortable

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I guess it protects the cable from damage somewhat so eh, whatever works

haughty thistle
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You can buy these sleeves for cheap on like Alibaba. Someone prolly thought it might protect their Index cable a bit better, but I think it ends up only being visual...

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It is my personal believe that the 2 most common places for the Index cable to break are these two: (the one at the front more so then the one on the back)

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gloomy crater
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When I look at it I'm just reminded of the fact that my cats claw pretty much everything in my house that has a remotely similar texture. It hurts me internally

vapid tartan
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if they would fucking update their drivers

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they just kinda tried to fix ryzen a few times and then dropped the thing

haughty thistle
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Apparently it's an Issue with certain Motherboards of the Wireless adapter, rather then a general issue with Ryzen

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If I had to guess why that is, it's probably because AMD doesn't have as strict guidelines for their partners. Both Intel and Nvidia tightly control what their partners do with their silicon, while AMD has been generally known to give their partners more free roam on the condition, that the partners do their own compatibility testing. That's why FreeSync monitors, especially older ones play so badly together with Nvidia GPUs.
It's only a guess tho, no concrete information on that point cbWhatever

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So, if you have issues with the Vive wireless adapter on an AMD motherboard, the solution is to just try a different board, possibly from a different manufacturer...

pale orbit
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8k displays

pastel echo
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That's actually an approachable price I'd say if it's a good headset

pale orbit
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it's an apple product, it's going to be in it's own walled off garden store just like facebook

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but even harder, I'll be surprised if it's officially pc compatible and works with steamvr

pastel echo
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I don't mind, it's apple you know what you're getting into if you actually buy it

lavish moon
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The issue is it's probably gonna render at like 1080p

pastel echo
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Apple making something teaches the chinese factories how to do it though. And then everyone else can do it within a year

harsh niche
lavish moon
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maybe 4k at most

harsh niche
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that's if it only runs on apple hardware though right

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i would think a 3090 could run 4k just fine

pastel echo
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Debatable

lavish moon
harsh niche
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ic

thick nest
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but no way 8k

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maybe they have a trick up their sleeve like up scaling

lavish moon
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I don't think even 4k will be feasible

thick nest
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well im pretty sure their iphones can do 1 screen 4k

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and this is 3x the price of them

harsh niche
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wait

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it's standalone? ohh i thought it was pc powered, swear i saw a cable coming out of it in a picture

wary parrot
hushed pond
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@gloomy crater what spec do you have iv had some terrible tracking since i replaced my 1070 to a 3080 and the fix was to switch to pcie 3.0 in the bios

gloomy crater
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I recently upgraded from a 570 to a 3070

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I'll take a look at my pcie settings

hushed pond
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if you have a pcie 4.0 compatible motherboard this may be one of your issue

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the problem is when you go down in fps something break between the usb and pcie 4.0 interface that briefly disconnect usb devices which in turn destroy the headset tracking for a few seconds
as far i am aware this only happens with a combination of vr+30xx gpu+pcie 4.0 at sub 30-50 fps in vr it becomes almost unplayable since you just grey out nonstop

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going from pcie 4.0 to 3.0 fixed almost all of my issue

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hope nvidia or amd release a bugfix for this specific issue

dull tide
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Oh nice now I can meet Bernie in VR.

pastel echo
dull tide
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Always has been

pastel echo
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Wait have people recreated all of half life 2 in Garry's mod or something as well?

dull tide
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They load the maps in Gmod and run the game

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I’ve been doing it in my quest 2

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I choose to be a Purple headed Cybernetic Major

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Mod even has finger tracking if you got an index

night dune
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Would a 4GB gtx 1050 be fine for like robloz stormworks and a bit of gta

sullen linden
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Uhh this is the VR channel

fathom sigil
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think hes asking about roblox vr tho

umbral garden
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Isn’t that just recroom

flat pawn
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roblox has vr?

main leaf
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yes.

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it supports Oculus Rift

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and vive i think

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but with oculus link i think works with the quest too

midnight juniper
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honestly if you have a headset why play roblox VR

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makes 0 sense

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go play half life alyx or an actually nice game

main leaf
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HL:Alyx is 30 euro i think

midnight juniper
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Regardless

harsh niche
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and roblox vr is terrible

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nothing special about it you can't even press buttons with your hands you still just click the trigger

sullen linden
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any good aftermarket link cables

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USB-C to USB-C with a right angle preferably

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that can charge it whilst playing

harsh niche
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plugged into my rtx 2070, keeps it at 100% while playing

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and it comes with 2 cable velcro tie things which is nice

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i use one in the front near the ports to wrap up my headphone cables and keep the link cable in check, and the one on the back near the strap to hold it up to make it more centered

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found another one in my house somewhere so i can put the headphones through it and feed them down the top strap to my ears

flat pawn
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I'm sure that thing works well and is amazing

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but god if it ain't butt ugly lol

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so many wires

harsh niche
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it looks better when the earbuds are going in the right direction down the strap and in my ears 😜

pale wagon
# flat pawn but god if it ain't butt ugly lol

you have seen nothing yet.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B-uy3nwzpU

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its awful.

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and costs about as much as an index, pepega

harsh niche
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omg that hurts my neck just looking at it

sullen linden
harsh niche
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it should work with most motherboards, but i've heard people have had issues with that before

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think oculus mighta fixed it though

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after the quest blew up and all

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also what specs do you have @sullen linden

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just curious

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OH

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nvm you already said 2070

sullen linden
harsh niche
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ooh nice

sullen linden
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what is the difference between virtual desktop on quest store or on sidequest?

gloomy crater
umbral garden
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so there's literally no reason to buy it on the quest store then

sullen linden
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No reason at all lol

gloomy crater
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I've never actually used the one from side quest, so I don't know much about it

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I've only used the version that you buy on the quest store and then use sidequest to patch it to play games, because it was before the sidequest version existed

haughty thistle
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I think you actually have to buy it throug the Quest Store and then patch it through sidequest...

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At least that's how I did it, and it works flawless

harsh niche
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yeah this ^

haughty thistle
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(well as good as wireless VR can work through 5GHz Wifi)

harsh niche
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there are 2 different versions though so don't buy it on steam

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or on the oculus rift store

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has to be the quest specific store

gloomy crater
haughty thistle
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I'm pretty sure that for VD you have to pay no matter what

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You could be thinking of ALVR, which is free and open source, but also kinda garbage compared to VD...

gloomy crater
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I've never been able to actually get ALVR working before. At best I got a signal in my headset but no games worked and my controllers never showed up

hushed pond
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hey jay did you issue been resolved?

vast pecan
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Hey guys,
I just ran steamvr performance test, and the results said that my gpu was "Microsoft Basic Display Driver" when my GPU is an RX 570.

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Is that bad if it shows up like that? What is it?

gloomy crater
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Do you have the correct gpu drivers installed?

gloomy crater
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That and I can't figure out how to change which pcie version is running. The asrock uefi is notoriously hard to navigate

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Nevermind. Wow that's literally the stupidest place they could've put that, but whatever, I'll test it tomorrow

sullen linden
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Are there any WiFi tests to see if virtual desktop would work good?

haughty thistle
vast pecan
haughty thistle
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That's weird. Try reinstalling the drivers. Because it should definetly not show up as some Microsoft thingy...

vast pecan
vast pecan
sullen linden
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@flat pawn is there any way to check if virtual desktop would work for me? I dont have the best of internet speeds and im in the attic too, 4 floors from the router

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well, im on the fourth so three floors away from the router

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i use a TP LINK though in my room

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it gives me alright speeds but idk if its sufficient

haughty thistle
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Internet speed doesn't matter. The connection speed between your Wifi devices and your PC are important

sullen linden
haughty thistle
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I honestly don#t know of any off-the-shelf benchmarks

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One way you could test it is by transferring a file with a known size from let's say your phone to your PC, measure the time it takes to transfer and then you can calculate the average transfer speed

sullen linden
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How do I transfer from phone to pc?

haughty thistle
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There are SMB utilities available. So you can just create a shared folder on your PC, connect to that on your phone and transfer a file that way

sullen linden
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Which is better, link or virtual desktop?

flat pawn
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I do not have virtual desktop

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Should probably get it because the features are better than oculus dash but

haughty thistle
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In my experience does Quest Link offer slightly better visual fidelity and with the right cable a much more stable experience. VD is great for what it is, but it still can't beat a cable...

sullen linden
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I decided I’m not gonna get the elite strap with battery pack

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the battery pack only adds 4 hours battery to the quests charge

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but if you get something like the VR Power, it adds 10 hours or so

sullen linden
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would this cable be able to be used as a link cable and keep the charge at 100% whilst playing?

haughty thistle
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The cable is a bit short. Other then that it should work fine for Quest Link, I'd guess.
Charge is btw completely dependent on your PCs ability to supply ample power. Most PCs don't, so your Quest will most likely still discharge

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For a good wired, roomscale VR experience, I'd recommend a cable length of 5m or longer

harsh niche
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in the menu for hla on virtual desktop I’m getting like 75 FPS, it on link it’s a solid steady 90

haughty thistle
harsh niche
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using h.264

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I tried hevc too but it made little difference

haughty thistle
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Huh... Interesting...

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If I had to guess why you saw such a perf difference between VD and Link, I'd say that it might be due to Oculus using their own compression algorithm? Either that, or VD is running at a higher resolution

harsh niche
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hm

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the weirdest thing is that you know how VD has like a performance overlay now where it shows each "step" (game, encoding, internet, decoding etc.)

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well in the "game" one (the first one) it says 15ms.. which is quite bad and it's highlighted orange

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but on the steamvr performance overlay thing it only says 6ms

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so something is going wrong in that area that's making my frames drop and be worse over vd.. but i don't know what

sullen linden
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@flat pawn

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i cant see "usb c port " on here at all, i could be going blind?

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these are the mobo specs but the actual mobo has one on the back lol

flat pawn
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Well if it has one it has one

sullen linden
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that’s one right

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yeah it has to be lol

flat pawn
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Yeah, literally says type c

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I have one too, not sure if I'll ever need to use it though

sullen linden
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but its not on the mobo spec list which is weird

sullen linden
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will it work?

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@flat pawn

harsh niche
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80% chance

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oculus software can be weird with motherboard ports sometimes

sullen linden
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idk whether to use that or virtual desktop

harsh niche
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but there's fixes

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virtual desktop has big latency but it's fine for me