cars

[fallen falcon]

nice

[ruby cloak]

https://youtu.be/i3wggnTpCR8?t=23

[fallen falcon]

hybrids are / were cooler with that SUV tho IMO

[ruby cloak]

yeah we needed a big car.

we came from a shitty nissan armada

so it was a pretty big upgrade

[fallen falcon]

i just want something like uh.. fully electric or a hybrid

kind of digging to improve MPG

[ruby cloak]

yeah the gas mileage on these suck

[fallen falcon]

ya

[ruby cloak]

our armada averaged around 10-13mpg

💀

this is like 13-16 lol

[fallen falcon]

lol

those massive vehicles consume quite bit of energy

[ruby cloak]

yeah but it's so comfy inside

[fallen falcon]

like even the hummer EV was being compared with some ICE cars

an electric jeep to be compared with petrol in terms of efficiency..

[ruby cloak]

i'm surprised it came with ventilated seats because it's one of the lower trims

[fallen falcon]

though i'm still digging the hummer EV, it's a beast.

ventilated seats are nice

[ruby cloak]

it has heated rear seats also

no ventilated in the rear tho

[brittle totem]

How much does it cost to fuel up and how good is the range on a full tank ?

[fallen falcon]

more than you can afford, pal

[ruby cloak]

range is typically 400 miles it says on a full tank, not sure the cost as it's my parents car not mine

[fallen falcon]

prolly less though in traffic

[ruby cloak]

it auto-changes

it hovers around 400

[fallen falcon]

it likely has a massive tank

which makes it cost more when filling

[ruby cloak]

i've seen it go up to 450miles

[fallen falcon]

and the MPG ain't helping anyways

yeah but that's urban

highway, etc

[brittle totem]

That thing would have cost a fortune to run here in Sweden with our gas prices.

[ruby cloak]

yeah.. it's not really ideal with gas lol

but it is what it is

[brittle totem]

So it has 98 liters tank and gets half of the range of our Passat with a 65 liters tank. And our passat cost like 400-500$ a month four us to drive every month. And the prices is still going up. Its at around 10$ per gallon if you convert the price to gallons.

[fallen falcon]

you should be looking at an EV at that rate

$500 monthly and increasing, you'll be exceeding the cost of the car in no time

[fathom socket]

Fucking Gr8

[fallen falcon]

what a rim.. job lol

[sand viper]

I know what happened, truck driver forgot to drink water and change his socks

[civic spoke]

Christ man.

[fathom socket]

I don't fucking feel like to drive

[civic spoke]

@fathom socket I have had a start of a day also.
I get to work, get asked "Where are the signs I told you to get"
Dang it. You never told me WHAT signs to get.
I drive off to get them, along with some zip ties, duct tape, and trash bags.

When I get back. Then they realize that a bunch of our signs and feet have been stolen.

FUN.

[deep bridge]

I want to buy one of these and turn into one of the Subarus that Colin McRae drove

just slower so i dont commit self unalive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3fPshvM3Tg

something like this

i'll drive the same but crash even more

[civic spoke]

Remember to have a nice and soft suspension.

[deep bridge]

and a toolbox to constantly fix things i break along the way

[deep bridge]

yeah
i dont have a license yet so i will get a 1.6l version

but I will raise the suspension and such

better brakes, offroad air intake and stronger clutch

[civic spoke]

Uhh. Since you don't have a car/license yet.
Just start with a cheap old car. And start modifications on that.

[vocal mural]

Fuel prices go up again.
Now it is €2,189 for a litre of petrol. On saturday it was €2,149/L

[deep bridge]

thars why i go for a 1.6l version
driving a car is not hard at all

ill get my license next year

[civic spoke]

And if you REALLY want to improve yourself. Then take a rally course.

[deep bridge]

I drove few cars before
on road and off road

[civic spoke]

Driving isn't hard. But knowing where the limits are, and how to deal with them. Is.

[deep bridge]

most fun i had was in 200 bhp suzuki samurai i borrowed

[civic spoke]

So much you can learn from a light rally course. How to left-foot brake, etc.

[deep bridge]

nearly rolled over but i saved it

[deep bridge]

yeah... although i can drive I need a LOT of improvement

i know im not a good driver

but i have good potential

if taught properly

i live in the countryside so once i get something i can go on forest roads i will have plenty of space to improve

[vocal mural]

@stoic ledge The merchandise i have today

[deep bridge]

wait

but i alway brake with left foot
was i not supposed to do it?

[civic spoke]

Generally left foot is only for the clutch.
Right is for acceleration and deceleration.

Since you never want to do both at the same time in normal driving.

[deep bridge]

right....

[civic spoke]

But even then. Heel-and-toe you just do with your right. For braking and tapping the acceleration to Rev match.

[fathom socket]

Damn

[civic spoke]

Left foot braking is generally only for off-road/track use.

[deep bridge]

thanks 👍

[civic spoke]

She right messed up.

[deep bridge]

ill keep it in mind

[deep bridge]

as i said i dont have a license yet so didnt drive on public roads

good to know

[civic spoke]

The reason why you want to left foot brake is mostly to transfer weight to the front wheels before/during cornering.

[deep bridge]

because you NEVER want to brake when cornering

[civic spoke]

The outside sidewall even look okay.

[civic spoke]

For normal driving, yeah. You don't.
Advanced driving, that's a different story.

[deep bridge]

I wanna hear more about the advanced driving then

That sounds interesting

I never heard anyone talking good things about braking when cornering

[wheat hatch]

[civic spoke]

As I said. It's for transferring weight over to the front wheels.
And how when you want to use it depends a lot the layout of the car.
If it's FF, FR, MR, etc.

[deep bridge]

FF FR MR?

is it about where the engine is placed

English is not my first language so i dont know how many things are called in english

[civic spoke]

Front engine. Front wheel drive.
Front engine. Rear wheel drive.
Mid engine. Rear wheel drive.

[deep bridge]

ah

[civic spoke]

How they handle is all different.

[deep bridge]

the one i want to buy will be front engine all wheel drive

I know

completely different

did not experience RWD car tho

yet

[civic spoke]

FF generally likes to understeer.
FR generally likes to oversteer.

Wrote wrong, and edit it. xD

[deep bridge]

yeah xD

MR likes to oversteer too

and RR

[civic spoke]

Lots of weight in the back on those.

[deep bridge]

yeah... but if you are too heavy on the throttle they will spin out anyway

[civic spoke]

They are particularly fond of snap oversteer.

[deep bridge]

yep

the samurai I drove tho was pretty stable

AWD

front engine

I did oversteer tho

[civic spoke]

Samurai is tall, though. So has a tipping risk.

[deep bridge]

I experienced that

I was in a rollover in that car the same day i drove it

i was a passenger tho

[eager raptor]

truck

wait nvm

[civic spoke]

That's what I drive

[fallen falcon]

truck yeah

[slow kestrel]

truck

[fathom socket]

Do you use your engine as a leaf blower?

[slow kestrel]

sadly no

[fathom socket]

Sad

[vocal mural]

I need that engine as a hoover.
My current one doesn't suck properly

[civic spoke]

I just witnessed someone who were reversing a boat down a ramp. He went out of the car to see what he was doing, and didn't apply the parking brake.

So it started rolling backwards for a second before he jumped back in.

[fallen falcon]

Top Dumb catamaran evinrude H.O 275 HP very much

[civic spoke]

It was a bit of a stressed situation. His wife was yelling at him "Go left! Go left!"

[fallen falcon]

must have gotten his licenses from the supermarket

[civic spoke]

Nah. It went smooth enough. He was just stressed from the yelling.

I know just how it can be.

[fallen falcon]

even fiberglass cigs weight in well over a ton for a 8+ meter one

if you're letting go of your car without parking brake with one on your rear, you're just stupid

actually auto parking brake might be useful in such case

like when braked trailing it down the road..

[civic spoke]

He said that he did apply the parking brake. But I don't know if it was applied, and then lot go of.

Electronic one.

[fallen falcon]

there's prolly auto-stop on that electronic brake

most vehicles that are able to carry such weights have it, or better put, most electronic brake cars in the past decade actually

so just using auto-hold might be beneficial in that case

[civic spoke]

My guess is that it was applied automatically when he opened the door.
But that he released it when he tried to apply it himself.

[fallen falcon]

electronic parking brakes are not like old school ones tho

you hear a sound and the whole thing locks

but you can get confused and double down on it

eventually you'll probably figure out that you pressed it again mistakenly and fix it however

if the car is standing still, the parking gear also holds but it's never to be trusted alone, obviously

i don't think cars lock the parking brake when you get out and close door, unless it has a feature for that

at least i haven't seen it on ours with electronic brake, in VCDS either

[civic spoke]

As I said.
Stress isn't a great problem solver.

[deep bridge]

true

depends what kind of stress tho

[fallen falcon]

you probably shouldn't be riding a boat yourself if you are to be stressed easily or have somebody next to you who is like that.

and the fact that this guy forgot to turn on his parking brake just tells me he's stupid with a boat on his back

[stoic ledge]

Hmm usually applying and releasing is a different move... like applying it is pulling the switch, releasing it is pushing the switch

I think if I apply it twice.... it doesn't do anything

[fallen falcon]

correct, but like

when you get confused, you might press the other way around

and it's easy when the switch is little

[jovial mauve]

bruh gas yesterday was 2,16 i actually cried so cheap

[deep bridge]

If I bought a stock Impreza 1st gen and wanted to make it a mix between daily and rally car

what would be the list of parts to replace

[fallen falcon]

the head gaskets because it's a subaru, lols

[deep bridge]

because i know that entire wheels, brakes, intake, suspenion, some frame reinforcement

[civic spoke]

Bushing and the like

[fallen falcon]

why are you so fixated on it though.. there are far better old cars in reliability

[deep bridge]

bushinhs, got ya

[deep bridge]

Ever heard of Colin McRae
Absolutely loved him as a child and my fav. car that he drove was the 555

[fallen falcon]

ever heard why they stopped using his name on DiRT games?

[deep bridge]

no

why?

[fallen falcon]

because the car was blowing too many gaskets..

well, because of what happened to him.

[deep bridge]

I'll be getting the 1.6l version as i dont want to accidentally unalive myself once i get the license

[fallen falcon]

i had wet dreams of some cars as a youngster as well, but now i realize they were brainwashing

like the viper itself with the TV show..

[deep bridge]

I mean, 1sr gen Impreza is not that bad....

it has some flaws but i like it too much

im fixated on it

for years

[fallen falcon]

get an old audi or a lancia

both will be more reliable

[deep bridge]

3k$ for 1999 one with 4x4, 5 speed manual and 1.6l engine

[fallen falcon]

the boxers are terrible in reliability

well, maybe not terrible

but they are still kinda bad

i see them pulling fords to people down roads..

[deep bridge]

keep in mind spinning doritos exist

[fallen falcon]

what.. are you on about..

[deep bridge]

rotary engines

aka the apex seal blowers

[wheat hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-rotary-engine-rotary-engine-rx7-gif-19084217

[fallen falcon]

yeah they're also bad lol

[deep bridge]

I'll be honest

idc how reliable or unreliable the car is

Mazda RX-7 is my other dream but it's way too expensive here

[fallen falcon]

that's what you should be carrying about..

having a reliable car that isn't an utter money pit

[wheat hatch]

@deep bridge Just get whatever car you want, ICE cars are going out in a not so distant future anyways

Might as well enjoy them while they are here

[deep bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/subaru-drift-gif-21933113

[fallen falcon]

you know

[deep bridge]

i will not get an el*ctric

[fallen falcon]

nowadays haldex rally cars do that

you're more hippy than a tesla owner for sensoring electric.

[wheat hatch]

Well, if the future is all electric, I don't think you have a choice in that lol

[deep bridge]

say what you want about them
better effiency or whatever

i do not care at all and i will get and drive an ICE car

[fallen falcon]

ICE is dino juice in comparison

electric bikes offer a lot of fun too..

[wheat hatch]

Yummy dino juice

[fallen falcon]

lots of revolution noise, etc

on zero bikes and such

[deep bridge]

I dont like electric cars and I will not agree to be forced to drive one

[fallen falcon]

you simply don't understand it

but might when you start blowing head gaskets on that subaru 🙂

[wheat hatch]

Eh, I don't know why one has to be so hard headed about it, driving electric isn't the end of the world

[deep bridge]

im not stopping anyone to drive an electric
just dont force me ffs

[fallen falcon]

nobody will be unless you're prolly very old tbh

[wheat hatch]

I would prefer that if it means that I could have a fun petrol weekend car

[fallen falcon]

and by that time, you might as well change the mentality but anyway, at the same time like

[deep bridge]

i'll be blowing gaskets all i want and spend time in my garage fixing it

[fallen falcon]

that's the opposite of what a car owner should be doing

[deep bridge]

why would I care

im fixing Kama3 trucks for fun

i dont mind working on my own car

[fallen falcon]

working is fine

breaking crap cars on purpose.. yeah no

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jjp8ieTruc

this guy swings along in car lots and shits on crap cars so you don't make the same mistakes as other people do.

[wheat hatch]

Not only does he swing into car lots, he also swings the camera a lot lmao

[fallen falcon]

heh

[deep bridge]

I mean
If I don't get a subaru I'll get some small city car and rotary swap it

[fallen falcon]

either way, you'll get a shitbox you mean

an unreliable one at that

[deep bridge]

I clearly stated before

i do not care about reliability

if something breaks i will just fix it

simple as that

and making a light but powerful combo is very fun to drive

if 200 bhp suzuki samurai can fly
a 250hp city car will go mach 6

[deep bridge]

i dont get whats so hard to understand in these sentences

[simple igloo]

parts cost money too, also parts availability is going to be a problem. even for my renault 19 project car, I tend to buy parts I think I'm probably going to need some time in the future because it's just not a given that you can actually find parts for it. let alone some of the more exotic cars like the rx7

[deep bridge]

I guess

But since technology progresses, in the future it will be much cheaper to make a custom part

[fallen falcon]

no, in the future you will have MORE problem finding parts for older cars

which further goes to show that you don't get it

eventually catastrophic failures, some, will be unfixable

[fluid hatch]

😩

[deep bridge]

it's way easier to create sturdy parts now with more and more advanced 3d printing

I think it will open more options

even nowadays some companies try 3D printing car parts, even engine internals

and for older cars things are usually more simple

so once services that allow you to get a custom 3d prints using steel or titanium or whatever open and become popular and praced sanely, it will be much much easier to get the old cars running that have very big issues with getting parts to

Unmotivated person seeks an excuse
Motivated person seeks a solution

difference between us

[fallen falcon]

what does reliability have to do with motivation?

you buy a good product, this has nothing to do with personal motivation

buying unreliable cars just seems like your excuse to create motivation for NO PROPER REASON to work on the said cars

aka, cars breaking on you when they shouldn't.

[wheat hatch]

Forester xt?

[dense shard]

Older cars will be repairable.

Will take more effort to source parts

[dense shard]

But I'd say 3d printing with RtR is going to be huge

[stoic ledge]

You wouldn't download a car

[bitter compass]

Hell yeah i would

[charred depot]

last original pipe on the 305 burst

didnt think it was worth replacing as it looked decent but its really rusty at the bend

[deep bridge]

i simply dont want an electric car
stop telling me its a better idea

for my usecase it sucks completely

[ornate forge]

^^

bro doesn't want an electric, doesn't care if it's better. stop telling the guy to get one.

[fluid hatch]

1998 forester L

[wheat hatch]

[tepid wing]

Is LMG aware of Comma AI? They offer a dev kit for self-driving tech that currently out performs Tesla's misnamed "auto pilot" for a fraction of the price. The installation is fairly easy and non destructive on most cars.

Compatible cars:
https://comma.ai/vehicles

Essentially if Tesla is Apple, Comma is aiming to be the Android.

Better and open source.

[wraith rivet]

https://youtu.be/qJdwbWc-n7g

[dense shard]

Better till they have the same disdain for radar as Tesla does.

Fun gimmick, but I'd rather my autonomous features actually work in adverse conditions.

[tepid wing]

They do though.

It's primarily vision based.

It has a lot more safety than Tesla's systems too, it's impossible for it to suddenly spin the wheel and go off the road and allows you to steer with it.

Driver monitoring is vision based as well, beats the wheel nudge any day of the week.

[dense shard]

That's my issue.

It's vision based.

I'm honestly not sure who managed to sell the lie that cameras are enough.

[tepid wing]

It will use the radar too, and BSM if available.

[dense shard]

Our eyes are kinda crap. Why use vision if vision is so flakey?

That's news to me.

[tepid wing]

It is also level 2, just like autopilot. So the human is still the one driving.

Again, it can't do anything too stupid.

[dense shard]

Glad they're not overselling it.

[tepid wing]

They are very honest about what it can do.

[dense shard]

Unlike some others, yes. This is good.

I wish I was being sarcastic.

[tepid wing]

Their current goal is to drive to a Taco Bell without human intervention by the end of the year, hopefully they make it.

All of the "level 5" stuff is level 2. :-)

[dense shard]

Great. I volunteer my place

[tepid wing]

Human operators are still human operators when they are remote.

[dense shard]

... 4 stops and about a dozen turns and you're at taco bell

[tepid wing]

I really do want LMG to know about this though, it's super cool and kinda DIY.

Got to go.

[dense shard]

I think there's a way to recommend topic on the forums.

You should go for it.

[eager raptor]

💀

imagine 28 dollars a month in the winter

for heated steering and seats

silly bmw

[tepid wing]

Aren't they the company that charged a subscription for rear steering?

I know Tesla has remotely disabled paid for upgrades in the past.

[eager raptor]

tesla doesnt do paid for upgrades anymore other than autopilot which i dont pay for its ridiculous

[tepid wing]

I don't see a place to suggest things.

[eager raptor]

what

[tepid wing]

I don't see a place to suggest things on the forums.

[eager raptor]

oh

to be honest i dont want it anyways

cool idea though, i did try it out before with the cheap monthly subscription that i canceled after one month

it worked not so great

[tepid wing]

There is a lot wrong with Tesla, if things continue the way they are going it might not be around in a decade.

[deep zealot]

Tesla is terrible

they can’t even build a performance car correctly

the Plaids only selling point is “haha go fast to the speed limit in 2 seconds”

and then you take it off public roads and places where you can ACTUALLY speed it like the track and it just falls flat on its face

[civic spoke]

Brakes? What's that?

[eager raptor]

they are about to release the carbon ceramic brake upgrade kit for the plaid

[stoic ledge]

Inb4 still with DOT 3

[deep bridge]

should I buy this as my first/beater car to roam through forest roads like an idiot I am
https://www.ooyyo.com/poland/c=CDA31D7114D2854F111B956FBAD4355B37A11D7ED9D49768051DE36E9C64/-4252714922907945466.html/

[wraith rivet]

106 horsepower 😍 fastest car to ever exist

[deep zealot]

Great now gotta pay thousands of dollars for properly working brakes that shoulda gone on a 5000 pound car in the first place

Tesla is hilarious and watching them pull stupid shit like this is even more funny

[eager raptor]

how i don't understand, as a daily driver you shouldnt need race grade brakes and i guarantee the people that want to take these to the track will swap the brakes out anyway

its just an electric sedan with a bit of power

[stoic ledge]

With a track mode

[eager raptor]

okay

[deep zealot]

the same argument, daily driver with 1000 horsepower lol

you shouldn’t need race grade motors

you shouldn’t need a powerful battery

you shouldn’t need 1000 hp

if it’s just a daily driver right?

[eager raptor]

then dont buy it

just save yourself some money and buy the base

they didnt have "track" in mind when they were designing the model s

they just took a car and put more power in it and called it a day

[deep zealot]

And that’s what’s wrong with it

you can’t even do stuff in 4 tenths driving

you can’t just shove more power in a car and call it a day

and that’s why tesla is being roasted for it

[eager raptor]

if its such a problem why do people keep buying them

[deep zealot]

tesla fanboys who just wanna show off 0-60 times

[eager raptor]

yea

[deep zealot]

already seen stories of accidents where brakes just don’t work

[eager raptor]

yeah i have too

[deep zealot]

not on the track either, daily use

it’s an actual safety hazard

[stoic ledge]

Because our Lord and Savior Elon Musk 🙏 👼

[eager raptor]

i like how you are mentioning brakes more than that wheel

the stupid steering yoke

[stoic ledge]

A joke is fine on a track

But I've ranted about that before

😛

[deep zealot]

Yoke is actually quite good if you have good steering position on the track

Again really shit otherwise when daily driving

[stoic ledge]

Conclusion: Tesla is stupid

[eager raptor]

some track scenarios says otherwise

[stoic ledge]

Thanks for coming to my TED talk

[deep zealot]

i hold the wheel at 9 and 3

i don’t need to make 90 degree turns at a track

[eager raptor]

spinning out

[deep zealot]

yeah that happens quite often in the plaid

cuz of the power steering

[stoic ledge]

Don't worry, before that happens you've crashed without brakes

[eager raptor]

but even if you do crash

its a lot safer than a gas powered car on track with tire wall

tbh

[deep zealot]

you are reduced to ashes as the half a ton battery pack under you spontaneously explode like popcorn

[eager raptor]

i believe you saw the recent plaid crash like a few weeks ago with the guy going straight into the wall at like 160-170

survived with no protection whatsoever

and he like messed his knee up and broke some ribs but a gas car you would have had probably worse injuries or death

[stoic ledge]

[eager raptor]

because you have a giant chunk of metal moving right at you when you hit the wall straight on

and then like 10 airbags going off is like getting beat up

[stoic ledge]

Did he hit it from the side?

And his luck was that his was a thicc tire wall, that absorbed all the forces

The crumple zone barely did anything

[eager raptor]

the car will never be fixed it looked like it had been dropped off a cliff and crushed by a million boulders

he hit it like at a <45 degree angle

eh you know what

im tired

have a good night/ day

plaid is mid

[stoic ledge]

Oh yeah that definitely won't happen

[brittle totem]

The car saved his life i dont understand why it is so Hard for some People to say something good about tesla. All the airbag sensores where out and the car was basically just a chassi and he could still walk out from the car by himself.

[stoic ledge]

I just see the claim "a gas car you would have had probably worse injuries or death"... Which is a pointless claim, that's what I'm referring to

Why wouldn't a gas/ICE car be able to offer similar protection in a similar crash

[brittle totem]

What is bmw thinking ? A montly subscription for nearly evreything.

[stoic ledge]

Everything "as a service", I hate it 🤮

Paying for features which are already fitted to the car isn't new tho, VW and Tesla have done the same for example

But that was a one time option (which BMW also offers) but a subscription is just yikes

[brittle totem]

But bmw seems worse tesla is only offering montly payments for premium connectivy same thing with VW.

[stoic ledge]

No, Tesla also offers rear heated seats as something you can purchase later, and VW also has stuff of the active safety suite which can be purchased through the infotainment of the car

Except that's all a one-time fee, not a monthly subscription

[dense prawn]

someone at working vendor was playing that evanesance emo music at very high volume, then it reminds me of this

https://youtube.com/watch?v=J_LXJiJf3V0

(Yes this is real)

[brittle totem]

Yeah but thats not a monhly subscription you buy the whole thing and it will be with the car. Bmw will be offering a monthly subscription. I actully like the thing thst you can the feuture after you have gotten the car if you regret that you didnt go for that option. But I dont like the subscription thing in cars.

[stoic ledge]

Will it be with the car? Didn't Tesla withdraw functions after a transfer of ownership? Same with VW, the purchase is linked to an account, if you transfer the car you usually don't transfer the account

https://jalopnik.com/tesla-remotely-removes-autopilot-features-from-customer-1841472617

[brittle totem]

Yes and no they dont do that if you sale it privatliy or a 3rd party dealer ship but tesla can do it if you sale it back to them.

[stoic ledge]

So did the previous owner get a refund then? Still big yikes, they can sell the same thing twice

And apparently they also do it remotely

I sell dozens of Teslas a year, and sold my father in law a Model X P90D with ludicrous speed package. 60 days after the purchase of the car, Tesla removed his ludicrous speed package. Upon complaints to them they said he never paid for it. We have video evidence and multiple pictures of the vehicle with it. They even removed the line under the P90D. I am still shocked at these acts.

[deep zealot]

did they sue?

[stoic ledge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lawsuits_involving_Tesla,_Inc.

It's not on this Wiki page?

Love that there's a WIki page of it

But it's a partial list

[deep zealot]

200 lawsuits in china

[brittle totem]

Never heard of similer thing here in europé i have seen that tesla has removed feutures from car that they previous owner has sold back to tesla. But if they are doing it probely is writed down in their TOS. I dont like that they are doing it but People cant Sue them for that. If that is the case.

And i think there is a diffrents if you bought the car with the options on it becuse it counts as factory options then. And if you buy it after that it probely counts as an service pr software that you have bought.

[stoic ledge]

https://www.tesla.com/support/full-self-driving-subscriptions

Tesla also has monthly subscriptions now btw

So they probably just remove the feature so you can pay them monthly

[deep bridge]

why would I need more in a first car

totally not like I can just make it more in the future

[stoic ledge]

Can't seem to find TOS for FSD btw 🙃

[stoic ledge]

Perfectly adequate

I've got 83hp, been fine for 6 years now

[deep bridge]

exactly

if I want to learn how to drive

and how to rally

or more

it's better to have a car that won't kill you if you push too hard

even 106 hp can be dangerous if pushed too hard

[deep zealot]

its less about the power and more about how that power is managed

[deep bridge]

^^^

exactly

and how you drive it

i dont have a license yet so i just wanna roam around forest roads

i'll probably weld some steel profiles to make the car sturdier

and bushings for the suspension

[stoic ledge]

Add training wheels so you can't flip it

[deep bridge]

lmao

i probably will more than once

I loved to watch recordings with Colin McRae flying with his 555 Subby through the woods and dreamt to be like him

although i wont achieve the latter, ill have as much fun as I can

[deep zealot]

ive purposely tried skidding and driving my 328i like a hooligan

its just impossible even with traction off

[brittle totem]

I think that the subscription is meant for People that only do some long trips during holidays and dont want pay 10k for it so they can just pay 15€ for the month that they actully use it.

[stoic ledge]

It's 100 or 200 depending on which autopilot you have, not 15 But I could see a usecase for that

10k/200 = 50 month = 4y2m, so yeah if out use it just 1 month a year it's a great solution

[bitter compass]

Who the frick says 50 months instead of 48

Like come on just make it 4 years flat its nicer

Then again its our lord and saviour

Elon...

[stoic ledge]

Ah the price went up apparently from 10k to 12k

SO now it's 60 months a.k.a 5 years

[civic spoke]

Screw paying for the "Autopilot" when it's a feature that they can decide to just disable if they feel like it.

[tepid wing]

Here's a stupid idea: has anyone taken parts from a car that has ACC and stuck them into their car? I'm wondering how practical that is, of course using the same make, model and year.

[civic spoke]

I think there are some cars where the whole thing is just in the stalk, so that you can swap it out.

[tepid wing]

ACC requires radar and maybe vision, I think. This car does have normal CC.

[civic spoke]

Oh, right. I'm thinking about normal cruise control

The problem with adaptive cruise control is the added sensors. Which generally is only added from factory.

[tepid wing]

Which you can take out of another car, the hardest things I can see would be SKU specific harnesses or the CAN bus devices being programmed to ignore added stuff.

[civic spoke]

Yeah.

[jovial mauve]

@stoic ledge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl2pdtWiWRI

[stoic ledge]

Pls gib

[kindred sapphire]

hold up, im not the only car/tech nerd in existence??? MY PEOPLE!!!

[civic spoke]

There are literal dozens of us.

[kindred sapphire]

you dont know how much relief this brings too me......two very expensive habits.....but so much fun

[tepid wing]

I mean, cars are loaded with computers.

[civic spoke]

Watches like to be thrown in with cars also.

[tepid wing]

I like my Pebble.

[civic spoke]

I liked my Pebble also.

[tepid wing]

:-)

Today I learned that Tesla still lets anyone drive your car if you know where the paired phone is.

[civic spoke]

I just used the second row, left. Really enjoyed that dial face.

[tepid wing]

YWeather?

That's a pretty good one, I use that one the second most.

[civic spoke]

It's kind of hard for me to change dial on an automatic watch. Gotta buy another watch, or take it apart. Hah.

But with the cheaper Seiko's, then that's an option. Lots of nodding to be had there.

[tepid wing]

I wish they still existed.

I was excited for the Pebble Time 2.

[tepid wing]

Automatic?

[civic spoke]

Self-winding watch.

[tepid wing]

Oh, those.

Anyway.

[civic spoke]

I drive trucks.

[tepid wing]

Someone's online I'll just ping them about Comma.

[civic spoke]

Beep. Beep.

[lone fern]

donut media’s vid?

[tepid wing]

I did see that, that's how I know it still works years later.

[lone fern]

yea i think that they probably should fix that lol

[fathom socket]

Idk on modern cars i think it should be easy

Platforms

[kindred sapphire]

what everyone in here drive and do yall mod your own cars?

[tepid wing]

I drove an equinox for a bit, I can't drive it anymore though.

[wraith rivet]

i drive a mazda 6, the only mods im planning is replacing the head unit with somethin with carplay

[tepid wing]

If for some reason I am given that car I will definitely try to add a couple of features, along with Android auto.

[stoic ledge]

Given a car

[charred depot]

I hate because the 305 has skinny tyres all you can buy is "eco" shite

[eager raptor]

model 3 performance, cant mod really

[wraith rivet]

i know someone who completely redid the front end of his model 3 performance

new bumper and splitter and lights n stuff

[eager raptor]

yeah idk

ive seen someone do that aswell

its just not cheap obviously

im probably gonna buy a mk5 supra or something else

[tepid wing]

Apparently the Comma Tesla port is coming along fairly well, if you don't want to deal with FSD.

[wraith rivet]

@tepid wing does it use the built in cameras and radar and stuff?

[tepid wing]

It has its own, better cameras.

Otherwise it would use existing radar, if the car has it.

[hexed kayak]

buy something old and mod it

[tepid wing]

I would love to convert a car but I lack money and space for such a thing.

[eager raptor]

i mean to be fair my dad and i share the tesla i would love to have a project car but i need to have a car of my own again

i sold my g37 sedan at the beginning of this year

[hexed kayak]

ive got a fully built turbo cobalt. its been reliable for 65k km so far

[eager raptor]

cool

[tepid wing]

Oh, my family has a Cobalt.

[hexed kayak]

this isnt your familys cobalt lol

[tepid wing]

Not sure what engine it has, but it is a manual.

[eager raptor]

if i were to get an old car id probably import a celica

gt4

[hexed kayak]

mines mid 400hp

[hexed kayak]

Its probably a 2.2 n/a making 145hp

[tepid wing]

I'll look at the badges at some point.

[hexed kayak]

it wont say

but if its not an ss its a 2.2

[tepid wing]

I do think it would be fun to rip the engine out.

But again, not mine, no money, no space.

[tepid wing]

Oh hey the badge melted off.

[deep bridge]

I wish that the kind of gearbox used in rally was easier and cheaper to get

left foot braking in a normal production car is annoying because of the difference of how far you need to push each pedal

[bold harbor]

rip his face

[fathom socket]

Fun.
Been sitting like this for a while

Moves 20 meters every 4-6mins

[stoic ledge]

🅱️olvo

[civic spoke]

Grab your 15 minute break if you haven't already.

[fathom socket]

I already did 45 min

[civic spoke]

I have managed to grab the 15 minute break during heavy traffic before.

You just need to press the button after every time you move. You can move for a little bit without it registering actual driving.

[fathom socket]

I know

Guess what I did

[civic spoke]

Punched a hole in your adblue?

[fathom socket]

I've tried to start truck with my Pew-go keys

[wraith rivet]

@fathom socket how’s the stereo in that thing

[fathom socket]

Wat thing?

[stoic ledge]

That truck probably

[civic spoke]

@fathom socket Sorry for stopping your traffic.

[civic spoke]

They are not great. But could be worse.

A problem with trucks is generally just the high ambient noise you get.

Scanias are better than most. Especially if you have double glass for the side windows.

Kind of proud for the loads of asphalt I have gotten these last two days.

What I got Vs what I ordered.
3.07/3.00
1.45/1.50
3.03/3.00

[wheat hatch]

[pearl tiger]

Best feeling when ya get this new badge

[fathom socket]

Daf was just the worst

It sounds like a cow and makes annoying warning noises 24/7

[fathom socket]

Can't wait till saturday

my last time at this crap job

at lease saturdays are chill because you work like 6 hours and there's truck ban here, so no traffic

[civic spoke]

@fathom socket How's your average fuel economy? Can't be worse than mine.

[fathom socket]

Need checc tomorrow

the worst I got was 270l/100km

[civic spoke]

You mean 27 l/100km?

[fathom socket]

I mean not AVG

like the highest I've seen

[civic spoke]

Ahh, for the instant consumption dealio?

[fathom socket]

Basically flooring it up the hill with basically a full load

[civic spoke]

The reason why it's so much higher for three of the fuel ups, is because the owner of the truck 'stole' diesel from me for his excavator.

[fathom socket]

that trailer is from like early 2000s

[fathom socket]

they literally don't care about fuel economy

[civic spoke]

They do. But they also don't.

[fathom socket]

I need to be fast AF, break the resting time, load and unload on time out

[civic spoke]

They care more about the end result.

Hell yeah.

[fathom socket]

yeah. I'm not doing that

[civic spoke]

Break all of the laws.

[fathom socket]

I put my card in and also put the time it took me to arrive to work

[civic spoke]

I'm just taking two 30 minute breaks during my shifts most of the time.

[fathom socket]

I just take 1 hour break after last unload if I can

because I'm too fucking tired to continue working

[civic spoke]

30 minutes, because then the stupid "Can't work 6 hours in a row without a break!" can't bite me in the ass.

[fathom socket]

one time I did work full 6 hours

Basically a vehicle burned down on the m25 east in Uk

[civic spoke]

If you're driving trailers and unloading a bunch. Then you can skirt the rules a bit during loading and unloading.

[fathom socket]

but I would rather not. not at least to take entire 45 minutes

also

how the hell is that thing called

[civic spoke]

How it's called what? Or what it's called?

[fathom socket]

what it's called?

[civic spoke]

Dashboard storage tray

I was lazy. And looked up the interior accessories list.

Or is that the opposite of lazy?

[fathom socket]

IDK

It sounds stupid, but for some reason my friend want's to get it

[slow kestrel]

Look at these sexy headlights I just restored

[civic spoke]

You can get full-on tables to keep on the dash.

[viral matrix]

No car, but bike and Finnish B roads

[vocal mural]

Honda

[viral matrix]

[bitter compass]

A man of culture i see

[eager raptor]

guys

question

jeep or tesla

[fathom socket]

I get avg 34.4l/100km

[tepid wing]

EV6 and a Comma.

[hexed kayak]

Fucking how? My built 57mm turbo cobalt ss gets 8.9l/100 cruising

[fathom socket]

It's a semi truck

[hexed kayak]

Makes sense then

[versed glen]

The 4xE looks decent if your not trolling 😛

[versed glen]

I also heard that Ford is planning on making an EV Bronco. Judging by how well the Lightning is doing that would be interesting to see.

[tepid wing]

Honestly I think the Saturn Sun might be one of my favorite looking convertibles for some reason.

[versed glen]

As much as I love the feel of internal combustion, it’s also exciting to see Electric stuff starting to come into its own.

[tepid wing]

The one good thing Tesla did.

[versed glen]

Heck one of the few good things Musk did.

(Even though he’s not the actual founder)

[tepid wing]

All he did was throw money and eyeballs at it.

[versed glen]

Yeah

That Saturn dose look nice btw

Got a roadster vibe to it if it’s the one Google is showing me

[versed glen]

Yeah that’s a good look.

[tepid wing]

It's also not huge.

[versed glen]

Yeah small cars defiantly have a place in my heart

[tepid wing]

I don't really know much about tuning and junk, like I know the theory and how things basically work. One day it might be fun to get a car like this and make it zoom.

But that's expensive and I don't have money.

[versed glen]

I’m pretty sure I am going to buy a 2 door jeep or something like it. Eventually. I want a small car but I also want the utility of a truck

Ah yeah I feel yah on the money issue

[tepid wing]

I really don't get the Jeep thing.

[versed glen]

Yeah I know it’s weird

🤷🏻‍♂️

[tepid wing]

I'm not a huge truck person in general.

[versed glen]

I do think they are related

[tepid wing]

Right now I think a EV6 and a supped up Sun is what I want.

[versed glen]

Ah never been in Kia

Don’t see too many of them in my area🤷🏻‍♂️

[tepid wing]

Me neither, but it's the EV that has the best Comma support.

[versed glen]

Neat

[tepid wing]

I've only driven two cars.

An Equinox and a manual Cobalt.

[versed glen]

Oh a manual I still need to do that

Like a true one

[tepid wing]

It's not particularly hard, but there's definitely a learning curve.

[versed glen]

Yeah clutch and all that

[tepid wing]

The "manual" EVs that are potentially being developed are quite dumb.

Patents have been filled.

[versed glen]

Yeah that dose not make sense to me

[tepid wing]

They limit the speed and torque of the motors to work in manual power bands with force feedback on the "shifter".

Honestly sounds good for sim rigs if you part it out.

[versed glen]

Yeah, and if it gets some gear heads onboard I’m all for it

Might help people who would miss the feel of a manual.

[tepid wing]

Yeah but it's never going to be exactly right and that's only one part of that.

[versed glen]

Mhm

I think they also spend a lot of time making sure the cars “sounds” right.

[tepid wing]

The fake sounds are super dumb.

One of the really good things about electric is the lack of an engine.

[versed glen]

It reminds me when apps all tried to mimic notebooks and stuff.

Like Apple spent a lot of time and effort to make the book app have page turning animation and audio

[tepid wing]

I do wish new cars didn't have the giant screens too.

[versed glen]

At that point using my actual phone might be less distracting lol

Also I like have some physical buttons and knobs

[tepid wing]

Give me real gauges with the space in the middle a nice screen for nav and important system messages.

[versed glen]

Exactly

[tepid wing]

Imagine ripping the screens out and using CAN sniffing for this. Haha.

[versed glen]

Yeah maybe that will be the “cool” thing to do in like 50 years: “he did you see that dude car his got these retro gauges in it!”

[tepid wing]

It's probably going to be quicker than that.

[versed glen]

But hopfully this is a fake noise thing work themselves out to a reasonable middle ground

[tepid wing]

Of "you can turn it off?"

[versed glen]

Like they need to have some noise for safety I think but they don’t need to mimic engines once people get used to the idea of “cars go brrr”

[tepid wing]

I'm sure there's a way to fix it without a setting, but man that would suck to have to do.

https://c.tenor.com/ow5oWmvRQcAAAAAM/jetsons-driving.gif

[versed glen]

Oh I want my car to make that sound now

That or Star Trek sounds

But your idea is better.

[tepid wing]

It's just a fun thing to think about.

[versed glen]

https://youtu.be/LnT1VgeXOF0

[tepid wing]

I wonder if hub motors will ever get to a point where they are more practical for cars.

Would probably be the easiest way to convert a car.

[versed glen]

Oh you know what would also be funny, making the car make stream engine sounds 🚂

[tepid wing]

That sounds just as annoying as fake engine sounds.

[versed glen]

Yes annoying but funny

Wouldn’t want it for a daily drive that’s for sure

[tribal current]

speaking of electric carss

have yall seen the new hyundai

[versed glen]

No?

[tepid wing]

Which one?

[versed glen]

Mines a Kona but it’s the normal gas kind but I was able to get it before the market went wacky so no complaints

[tribal current]

the N vision 74

and the Ioniq 5 N

[tepid wing]

I do wonder how much oomf you could give an AWD/4WD EV conversion.

[tepid wing]

That looks interesting.

[tepid wing]

Have you seen the new DMC?

[tribal current]

I have yes

the N vision 74 is supposed to be a hydrogen powered car (fuel cell)

[tepid wing]

Just renders, but this might look kinda sick.

[tribal current]

but sadly I know damn well this thing is going to stay a concept

pain.

[tepid wing]

Fuel cells might be a good solution for semis.

[tribal current]

have you seen the Ioniq 5 N?

[tepid wing]

There are a few experimental ones to gather data.

No, never heard of it.

[versed glen]

Yeah it’s going to be a bit before EVs can take over the jobs currently done with Diesel engines so fuel cells might be the way to go

[tribal current]

its supposed to be released today apparently

the 15th of July

[tepid wing]

Oh, that's not the craziest anti camera wrap I've seen.

[tribal current]

They also unveiled another concept

the RN22E

[tepid wing]

My dad wants to replace the Equinox in a few years, I think it would be fun to replace it with the electric one.

[versed glen]

Somone said crazy paint job:

[tepid wing]

Yeah, that's fun.

[tribal current]

I loved the thinking behind them

[tepid wing]

I used to see these things drive around on occasion.

[tribal current]

thinking it would mess with the submarines perception of distance

but it did nothing

[tepid wing]

That's why prototype cars use it.

It did something for a little bit.

[versed glen]

I’m sure it did something but not enough to make diffrence

[tribal current]

then radar existed

[tepid wing]

Not a super hard thing to overcome in that situation.

[versed glen]

Exactly

[tepid wing]

That's a "WTF" thing for all of 5 minutes.

[tribal current]

then you can aim and shoot at it

[tepid wing]

I used to live in the Detroit area, I always liked seeing the occasional prototype.

[tribal current]

because you know its speed

[versed glen]

Yeah would proably work better in a convoy thou like a heard of zebra

[tribal current]

I went up to Michigan for a school thing (engineering thing) and i got to see the cyber truck and the semi

[versed glen]

But ships don’t sail that close

[tepid wing]

Ah, those things are so fake.

[tribal current]

oh yeah.

[versed glen]

Wait the cyber trick is real? You know I was going to fix the typo but I like it

[tribal current]

windows were 0 percent tint

you couldnt see inside

defo not real lmao

[tepid wing]

It was a good way for them to scam a bunch of money.

[tribal current]

well i mean youd be right though

it is a cyber trick.

[tepid wing]

Didn't they take a few million from Wal-Mart?

[versed glen]

Oh that’s a good scam then

[tepid wing]

Yeah they ordered a handful of the semis IIRC.

[versed glen]

I won’t loose any sleep over a big corp getting dooped

[tribal current]

neither do I

[tepid wing]

Especially Wal-Mart.

[tribal current]

I only care when its a small startup

[versed glen]

Yeah

They can’t afford a f up of that scale

[tribal current]

nope

[tepid wing]

Do you guys know how bad Elon's companies depend on each other not going under?

[versed glen]

I can see starlink and spacex being tied for sure

But if your saying they all are linked that also dosent surprise me

[tepid wing]

Elon made a bunch of weird inter-corperation deals to invent money, that's why he promoted the solar shingles so hard for a bit. He needed the evaluation of that company to go up to pull a bunch of money out of thin air.

[versed glen]

Shady solar deals nice

Really more of an Edison then a Tesla and I don’t mean that Nicely

[tepid wing]

What ever happened to the Nikolai cars?

[versed glen]

Not sure 😦

[tepid wing]

Did you hear about the Rivian trucks?

[versed glen]

Still around it seems according to wiki

They recently started delivering on truck orders

[tepid wing]

Oh, interesting. Hopefully they do better than Rivian.

[versed glen]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Corporation?wprov=sfti1

It’s not easy breaking into the car biz

[tepid wing]

You can minimize things that break though.

[versed glen]

Yeah genuine a good strat

[tepid wing]

Minimize mechanical components and software, you'll have less things break and you'll be able to polish what you do have more.

[versed glen]

Yeah good to have a tight focus when you start a new venture

[tepid wing]

When your car is running unreal engine you messed up in the design phase.

[versed glen]

Is that what happened? Lol I missed that

[tepid wing]

Rivian's screens are running Unreal.

[versed glen]

“Guys it’s not that kind of engine” smh

[tepid wing]

It certainly is electric though.

Have you seen Drako Motors?

[versed glen]

Nah

[tepid wing]

That's a dream car.

https://www.drakomotors.com/gte

[versed glen]

I guess evs do need a bit more then CarPlay l/android auto

[tepid wing]

4 motors on a car with independent torque vectoring on each one.

Yeah a lot of EVs mess that up too.

[versed glen]

Course they do

[tepid wing]

But yeah, the Drako GTE is insane.

https://www.drakomotors.com/

There's a new one since I last looked.

Looks like the embed isn't up to date.

2000 HP

The 0-60 numbers are so useless now, it really should be done in Gs or something.

[versed glen]

https://tenor.com/view/jeremy-clarkson-power-gif-11143478

[tepid wing]

So that's 500HP on every wheel.

That can be independently controlled by the computer.

That's insane.

[versed glen]

Sounds like it

I would get into so much trouble if they let me behind the wheel 😎

[tepid wing]

Didn't someone say they had a 400HP Cobalt?

This has more than that on each wheel.

Imagine if they had this on the shorts channel.

[versed glen]

Oh god

I do appreciate the odd car vid LMG puts out

[tepid wing]

I bet this could suck down the power of multiple houses to charge.

[versed glen]

For sure

Wonder if it needs a special hook up

[tepid wing]

Probably not, the other one just used two standard connectors.

[versed glen]

Oh It needs two?

[tepid wing]

Imaging fast charging that somewhere.

People would think you're a jerk but it actually uses two.

[versed glen]

Likes some desktop replacement laptops logic

Same idea I guess just car scale

Crap I totally lost track of time I need to sleep

Irl recharge time

[tepid wing]

I can't find a picture of it.

Oh well.

[versed glen]

It’s cool

[tepid wing]

Imagine pluging in and having the Texas energy grid die.

[versed glen]

Lol wouldn’t take much I’ve heard

[tepid wing]

Literally seconds away last winter.

[wispy cloak]

Not really cars but

Mowerland

[tepid wing]

What's the difference between AWD and 4WD?

[fathom socket]

4wd has a blocking differential and awd has limited slip differential

Or open

[tepid wing]

For the front/rear split or for all of them?

[shadow gyro]

me driving my daily to work

[eager raptor]

formula drift video from like may

qualifying rounds, day 1

random run just felt like posting something

[wispy cloak]

Certified Nissan

[lone fern]

the fact that it was able to move with a working transmission makes it not a true nissan

[kindred arrow]

Thats a tata nano

[deep zealot]

Tata nano is based

[fathom socket]

I wonder what's the story behind

[compact grotto]

Hyundai scored bigtime with Luc Donckerwolke. This thing is outstanding.

For those who haven't seen it all over the internet today, its the 2022 Hyundai N Vision 74 Concept.

[stable grotto]

yeah super badass

ass some active aero and itd be the perfect travis pastrana car next to his wagon

[tepid wing]

Does anyone know specs for it?

[stoic ledge]

2 motors, 680hp/900Nm, 4.2kg hydrogen capacity, 250km/h top speed (155mph), 600km (360 miles) range

[tepid wing]

So it isn't super crazy but it's no slouch.

[stoic ledge]

No 1500hp overkill concept no

But.. only renders as far as I can see, so the specs are also just random

[tepid wing]

I mean this is kinda overkill as it is.

[stable grotto]

y'all see the supervan at festival of speed

or the fan car.. that thing is cheating

[stoic ledge]

Sure but for a halo car it's alright, seen crazier

[stable grotto]

2000hp

[stoic ledge]

@walrisis yes and yes

[stable grotto]

lol , wicked

[tepid wing]

The new Drako is supposed to have 2K HP too.

[stoic ledge]

50kWh battery: 35km range

[stable grotto]

LOL yeah

i just genuinely can't imagine being in the driver/passenger seat and feeling what thats like to accelerate

[tepid wing]

0-60 numbers are kinda dumb, but they claim 1.9.

[stable grotto]

that is 6x more hp than my car

jeez 1.9

that must be painful

[stoic ledge]

Just 24x the hp of my car

[stable grotto]

[tepid wing]

The Alpha 5 is supposed to have 2.99.

[stable grotto]

are you in EU?

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[stable grotto]

i dont even know an american car under 100hp lol

ah okay makes sense

whats kpg on something like that?

30-50?

[tepid wing]

I'm going to guess the Cobalt qualifies, but I have no idea.

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Kpg?

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oh wait.. american moment mixing freedom units with metric

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MPG?

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yeah yall dont have gallons though i meant km per gallon but i was still stupid

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Isn't it leters per kilometer?

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I can convert it but it's not too pretty, but it runs on LPG which is basically propane, and that uses ~15% more

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yeah i didnt know i was thinking just couldnt get there

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It's L/100km or km/l

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gotcha

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MPG is kinda backwards.

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MPG and km/l is basically the same

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:V

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I mean, distance/unit

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i get about 20-23mpg around town and 30 on the highways out of a 3.0L v6

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Currently I want a EV6.

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I get... ~30MPG US. But like I said, that's LPG so petrol equivalent is ~ 35MPG US

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kia be making some really really nice cars right now

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nice not too bad, what year is your car?

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Might also be the way I drive it 🙃

2012

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loool thats def a factor, im an old man in my boat of a car

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Yeah plus the whole self driving thing is pretty dope.

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the k5's literally drive themselves with the lane assist on the highway

got a lot of driving time in those

those are sharp looking cars

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I plan on getting a Comma 3 when I eventually get a car.

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nice how many more years till then?

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/375461451403624471/975889009165352990/IMG_20210409_120700.jpg

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clean man! y'all got some nice views there

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No idea, as soon as possible. Depends on income.

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lol touche

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Had it for 6 years now First car, not the fastest but safe, reliable, and due to the LPG system affordable to run

Fuel costs basically ⅓ of regular petrol

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yeah not bad at all thats a very clean first car, i was stupid as hell to sell mine i bought it for 1500$ off insurance auction 87k miles heated leather seats 2010 ford focus ses

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Main reason why I bought it 😛

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thing was beautiful and only 20$ to fill

stupid for selling it

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Thanks 😁

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A7 right?

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yeah 🙂

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The whole "solar panels plugged into an EV" thing is very attractive.

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Oh yeah so this thing is still now in these fuel prices €20 for 400km/250 miles

So I'm still happy

Used to be half tho, crazy cheap

I don't know why more people use LPG as fuel here

Widely available

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yeah that is super nice, although to be fair my office from my house is about a 30 second drive down a back road so i use only about 60 miles of fuel per week in commute time

i can put 20$ in it and make it last the week

but its about 88$ to fill

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I mainly drive home <-> uni which is 50 miles/day

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as of current prices

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oh brutal!

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Not too bad, 30 minutes one way at my speeds

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😏

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Me_irl xD

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my car maxes out at 135 but it hits that real quick

i cruise at 92 ish its super smooth

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I cruise at... 135

||km/h||

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oh.. mph not kph

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😛

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i actually have a kph speedometer

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walk of shame

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😦 for why

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whos that idiot in the distance thats ran out of fuel

wouldnt be me

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Fastest I've done is 170km/h / 105mph in my car .. that's fast enough

And then still a Fiat 500 is tailgating you

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it was turning over so fast I thought the cambelt had snapped

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here it'd be a kia soul or altima tailgating you at those speeds

Recent 2 step paint correction/ ceramic coat

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Damn nice

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Sooo many hours

My back needed a month to rest

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Oh yeah I bet

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one sec check this detail out

uhh sec getting photo's together camera roll unorganized

how many photo's can i send at a time

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Up to 8MB

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no no total attachments before bot

100mb is my limit with nitro and in this server

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Ok no 50MB here I think

Ah uhm

Right you've got nitro

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Do you guys know one of the big issues with hydrogen cars right now?

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Uhm I've had many messages from the bot but for never for too many pics

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Production, transport, stations?

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expensive as hell fuel still doesnt equate to any savings, and no infrustruction for cost effective production

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A lot of the hydrogen is made via nuclear decay instead of renewable methods, we don't have a super good way of making it yet.

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Before

ok hopefully this doesnt delete