cars

[viscid atlas]

how did that even get there

[wispy cloak]

So I think I'm just gonna put a plug in it

[viscid atlas]

yea you should

if its a mower i dont see harm in plugging it

[wispy cloak]

A lot of roofs were recently replaced because of hail last year

[viscid atlas]

ahhh

makes sense

[fathom socket]

my 300zx still rocks after all that happened to it

one time i got my turbo kit stolen

lmao

[fallen falcon]

the stock engine doesn't rock that much tho.. more of a ford leaver down the road

2JZ is another history, obviously

[fathom socket]

yeah

doesnt gap my brothers civic

that beast got 600 hp and its awd

and yeah the VG30DETT doesnt rock that much

[fallen falcon]

eying the EV6 but $$

thing is heavy also, i think it's got like 350 HP with the dual motor option, but due to the 2.2 tons 0-100 is around 5.2 sec

[fathom socket]

my 300zx has 1.4 tons

and 650 hp

bc yeah 2jz powa

[fallen falcon]

prolly suffers from tires doing burnouts there tho

i think those cars came with not so big ones

[fathom socket]

nah i dont do burnouts

i want to make it awd

[fallen falcon]

i mean off the grid launching

that's gonna be hard

[fathom socket]

yeah

so since i got a 2jz in it

maybe i can put a gt-r awd system

[fallen falcon]

too much work / $$ prolly

[fathom socket]

but awd>rwd

[fallen falcon]

sure though but like

at that point, why not get an AWD car?

something with more beef to the tires 🙂

AWD conversions to platforms like these are often times very hard to do, harder than just dropping in a block me thinks

so meh

[fathom socket]

yeah

[wraith rivet]

💀💀💀💀

why…

[stoic ledge]

Expensive but not more than competitors

But... wait for the GT

xD

[fallen falcon]

meh, this version is already very fast

but i'm likely not picking it up

well.. unless we manage to sell our other house which would then compensate for a vacation place + car upgrade.

[stoic ledge]

[fallen falcon]

ioniq 5 base is good too.. except we can't have it from hyundai.. yet

[stoic ledge]

Personally I prefer the EV6 over the Ioniq 5

[fallen falcon]

yeah it seems better in some areas

[charred depot]

picking up an XUD tomorrow, cornering a luxury resource

[fallen falcon]

a why

[charred depot]

its the best passenger car diesel engine ever made

[fallen falcon]

in your subjective opinion.

[charred depot]

facts r facts

[fallen falcon]

it's subjective.

and an opinion at best.

[charred depot]

it was the inflection point of mass adoption of diesels in passenger vehicles for good reason

[fallen falcon]

more opinion

[charred depot]

thats a fact

[fallen falcon]

just opinions

none of those are facts

[charred depot]

sales numbers are facts

[fallen falcon]

who cares?

[charred depot]

does that make it not a fact

[fallen falcon]

no

[charred depot]

ok so its a fact

[fallen falcon]

you're bringing things you're making up and calling them facts

[charred depot]

I didnt make it up its a well known fact here

[stoic ledge]

XUD good

[fallen falcon]

yeah well known

a fact is more like, this car has a speedometer of 240 kph

it will not change in the mind of another person to 260

unless you're delusional

[charred depot]

were talking sales numbers here

[fallen falcon]

and i'm thinking to believe you indeed are.

since you're telling me things like, THIS is the best engine hurr durr.

that's a completely subjective topic just as cars are just as a car is.

[charred depot]

I hope you dont think im completely serious

[fallen falcon]

i don't care.

[charred depot]

clearly

[fallen falcon]

go waste your money

[charred depot]

uwotm8

[fallen falcon]

but not my time with your delusional crap.

[charred depot]

you are getting quite invested in my "delusion"

[fallen falcon]

yeah, maybe i should just block you

did in fact.

[charred depot]

if you feel I am forcing you to waste your time smart move

[wraith rivet]

if the sales number can be provided to back up the claim then it’s a fact

but just saying that without anything isn’t really

[stoic ledge]

Sales numbers aren't a measurement of how good cars are actually

Often it's just due to some external factors (like low lease deals, tax incentives etc)

[charred depot]

im not being serious ofcourse after 40 years there is better engines

But at the time it was released it was a big step up

today the XUD is "agricultural" but then everything else compared to the XUD was "agricultural"

[stoic ledge]

Agricultural is good, runs forever

[charred depot]

john deere moment

[stoic ledge]

Well excluding John Deere yes

[fallen falcon]

many garbage cars sell a lot, means nothing

[charred depot]

sure

[fallen falcon]

i think at one time the F30 3-series was the most selling sedan on globe

and the 320i there had a problematic engine in some areas

[charred depot]

but it was a "new thing" and it being actually not garbage spurred the adoption of the new thing

I hate to use this as an equivalence but it was like the tesla of diesels

[stoic ledge]

Oh god I hate it now

[charred depot]

But its £75, mainly getting it for the injection pump as maybe fuel will get bad enough ill actually run veg oil

[deep zealot]

that guy logically doesn’t make any sense

320i shared engine with the 328i

what isolated the problem to a 320i

[wispy cloak]

Fixed

[jovial mauve]

so i have been struck by a issue that is common on the C7 a6s

my rear lights are cracking

[stoic ledge]

OOF that's common?

Don't you have expensive LED units?

[jovial mauve]

they are led yes

Yeah

common issue

they are to tight

in the trunk

so if you smack it down alot they will die

so far as i can see prices are not that insane arround 100 per side +/-'s

but it is only like 1mm of crack but i noticed it so now it needs to be replaced xD

[stoic ledge]

Yeah I'd also have the urge to immediately fix it yes xD

But F, I always slam the trunk close

[jovial mauve]

Yeah same haha

gonna take it to the shop while im on vacation

so they can change the tires as well and balance the car

[stoic ledge]

Balance the car

[jovial mauve]

idk isnt that the same as uitlijnen?

''Align the car'' doesnt sound right

[stoic ledge]

That's correct tho, you'll get an alignment for the car xD

[jovial mauve]

i mean fair enough

need to get that sorted as well

need to replace my fuel cap but just got to order it

and im thinking of replacing my steeringwheel

[stoic ledge]

Yeah not such a fan of the 4-spoke

[jovial mauve]

i want the s line one

would be nice black leather again

matt*

[stoic ledge]

Glossy leather is nust because it's dirty, gotta clean it 😛

Lot of grime came off lol

(both front and back)

Maybe even more visible on zhe Meriva

[jovial mauve]

yeah but over time it wars

wears

mine is scuffed on some parts

want this one or something that looks like it

[civic spoke]

I should freshen up my steering wheel.

[jovial mauve]

what do you use for cleaning?

[stoic ledge]

https://www.carclean.com/nl/gyeon-qm-leatherset-strong.html

But mine isn't scuffed 😎

[jovial mauve]

i mean

it has a scuff at the bottom

but i know it so i hate it

as soon as i feel / see something that is off

need to replace it

[stoic ledge]

Understandable

[jovial mauve]

time to move

[stoic ledge]

Venezuela is even less

A person working in Libya typically earns around 2,290 LYD per month. Salaries range from 580 LYD (lowest average) to 10,200 LYD (highest average, actual maximum salary is higher).
So that's ~455 euro/month average

[jovial mauve]

worth

no

yeah

[fathom socket]

So someone called peugeot a PEW-GO

[pearl tiger]

we call them shitbox

[eager grove]

My old driving instructor used to say 'PEW-sjoh'

[umbral tusk]

perså

[eager grove]

And Alexonautos says 'pew-SJOH' which sounds even funnier

[jovial mauve]

We called our Peugot

Peutje

[civic spoke]

I just call it misery.

Though, with that said. The newer ones look pretty alright.

[jovial mauve]

the one we bought

was ment to be destroyed off roading

but it took it all like a champ

and we sold it with profit after haha

[lone fern]

f o o d

[stoic ledge]

We used a Golf 3 for that

Didn't sell that one for a profit tho, just scrap value

[stoic ledge]

Thought at first that it's a Ford Focus Wagon in front of you, but thought "hey don't sell those in the US". Then I realized you're in a truck and that's probably an SUV, so the Edge?

[lone fern]

yep its a ford edge titanium in front of me

[stoic ledge]

Only sold them here as diesels :(

[lone fern]

ahh ok

[stoic ledge]

And they sold poorly xD

[lone fern]

that sounds dope

of course

[stoic ledge]

Atleast in NL, Germany/Belgium slightly better but also rare

Diesel was a 2.0 TDCi, single or bi-turbo iirc

F censored xD

[stoic ledge]

Yup, 180 or 210hp

[lone fern]

no it sensored expensive

but too long

[stoic ledge]

Lol

[lone fern]

those are probably very expensive to run

[stoic ledge]

Edge was €60k for the base model here, and later there was only a €75k version available

Expensive to run and purchase

[lone fern]

yeaa

[stoic ledge]

Always thought they were cool tho

But that's also as they're rare here

That increases the cool factor

[lone fern]

ofcc

[stoic ledge]

Edge diesel: 75k
Explorer 3.0 TT PHEV: 80k

[lone fern]

damnnn

[fathom socket]

good im coming rn

[fathom socket]

why

WHY

[wraith rivet]

at jfk as we speak I’m coming too

[wraith rivet]

the question of the century

[fathom socket]

anyways imma go mod gta 4 rn

[fathom socket]

Vroom vroom

[charred depot]

drove a friend so he could buy this shite for £700

certified covertible in scotland moment

[sudden pecan]

rust

[charred depot]

its not too bad

I mean its not the most presentable thing but structurally and MOT fail wise is awlright

[viscid atlas]

SCOTLAND FOREVERRR

[deep zealot]

quick USA flex

[wispy cloak]

How is that a USA flex

[bitter compass]

Because dirt cheap fuel prices

[wispy cloak]

Not anymore

[bitter compass]

Compared to europe

Fuck yeah

[wispy cloak]

Well

That's different

But it hurts to get gas now

[bitter compass]

It still hurts me that i only have 2.5 months of affordable public transport left until its cheaper again to take the car

Amd faster

In a metropolitan area

At the current fuel prices

And driving is much more enjoyable when less people do it 👀

So at the end of summer less enjoyment :(

17k for an e30 318 👀

But im probably gonna suffer with insurance if i do that

Nvm its about the same as im currently paying

👀

[eager grove]

Someone round the corner from me has an Edge

only one I've ever seen in the UK

[fathom socket]

I live in a shit hole now

Or I can drive 2 hours in a car

[viscid atlas]

Why would an E30 have bad insurance rates

[fathom socket]

Or I can take 7 trains and spend 4 hours

it's cheaper, but I can't get in time

[wispy cloak]

A ford edge?

[eager grove]

yeah

[fathom socket]

ZG Jeep 4.0 I6

[dense shard]

Nice ZJ

Oh wait Euro build? Nice ZG

[charred depot]

reliability lurks behind

[viscid atlas]

To be fair, look after those older mercs and they run basically forever

[charred depot]

this one has a supercharger fault but it drives alright

[viscid atlas]

That's probably easily fixable

[charred depot]

I think its just the electric clutch

[viscid atlas]

Suspension is the messy repair on older more luxurious mercs

[charred depot]

It was £700 just for a bit of fun so wont be getting money launched at it

he likes to buy a convertible every summer then a week later realises he lives in scotland and moves it on :^)

[viscid atlas]

SCOTLAND FOREVERRR

I do want a convertible R8 V10 tho

[dark nimbus]

this happened on my way to campus today

[civic spoke]

You're even showing KMH.

[wraith rivet]

the inside of the speedometer

[viscid atlas]

The small numbers are kmh the big numbers are mph

[civic spoke]

Oh, right. It's actually showing both.

[viscid atlas]

I'm confused on what even happened

[stoic ledge]

Truck driver was in the wrong lane and also tried to turn left

Or wanted to turn left at the next lights

[viscid atlas]

Ah, yes, truck drivers and them being stoopid

What's new

[civic spoke]

The box van ran up on the middle kerb?

[stoic ledge]

Idk mistakes are human, I don't think this was "solved" badly?

[civic spoke]

I really have no idea what's supposed to be special about that clip.

[viscid atlas]

Yea

[stable arch]

Humans being stupid in any situation*

[viscid atlas]

Truck drivers being stupid on the highway and city roads is more common than the average commuter

[stable arch]

Not through the eyes of a good truck driver

Trucks are just annoying more easily than cars

[lone fern]

honestly i’ll let some mistakes from truck drivers pass

they have a job to do, and it aint easy

[dark nimbus]

Law says you gotta stop between merges. Because their intentions were unclear, their tire entered my lane after I had moved forward. As a result, I was forced to turn left or get hit.

[civic spoke]

You're just impatient. If their intentions are unclear. Stay behind them. Especially since their blinkers were still on.

[dark nimbus]

I didn’t have the opportunity to be patient because their intentions were unclear

I was already going half the speed limit— you’re saying i was in the wrong because i didn’t fully stop

[lone fern]

honestly i tend to be wary of semis, it’s very likely that the driver couldn’t see you where you were. Semis have massive blind spots which makes lane changing difficult, which is why often they flash their high beams for certain passing maneuvers with other semis

[dark nimbus]

Yeah it’s like

I *think* I’d win a hypothetical insurance claim (due to the double merge & them entering my lane when I was in that bad position)

but I could’ve avoided the situation by staying back until their blinker turned off

[flat grotto]

why is deciding on a car so hard?

also now that im actually looking for a car, theres nothing interesting for sale :/

[timber oar]

Nah see for me at least it's always your friend that finds cool shit at exactly the wrong time financially and you still end up buying it anyways

[bitter compass]

Lower crash safety, less security features but i kinda forgot that insurance isn't logic

[viscid atlas]

Yeaa, they don't care about that as much as the actual cost of the car

I got an 06' 911 and i got quoted the same as my cousin's new civic

And he's 4 years older than me

I was 19 at the time

[hollow pasture]

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-pontiac-gto-49/ well

im gonna cry

so mad i dont have the money to spend on this

like when is the next time a nice 69 gto could feasibly be bought for under 5k

[timber oar]

oooooh

thats nice

[lone fern]

never

[hollow pasture]

Exactly

[vocal mural]

Cheapest E5 moped fuel up this month

[lone fern]

damn!

€9 is a good price for nearly 200km

[stoic ledge]

Kekw few weeks ago 400km for 21€ in a car #LPGgang

I have no idea what the regular fuel consumption is of a moped lol, 197km/4.46L = 44.17km/l

[wispy cloak]

To drive 250 miles for me it would probably be like $100+ in gas

Maybe less

Depends on the conditions

[bitter compass]

I can say what it costs to go 500km

75-80€

35 liter tank wuuuuu

[wispy cloak]

I have a 22 gallon tank

[stoic ledge]

It's still affordable for me due to the cheaper LPG...

The Meriva is like €13.5/100km atm on regular petrol from Belgium

[wispy cloak]

[charred depot]

dreamy

[wispy cloak]

I'm spending $100+ a week on gas

This is horrible

[charred depot]

well youd be spending like $180 a week here

my hatchback is $160 to fill

[wispy cloak]

My truck is $90-100 to fill

[charred depot]

do you tow often

[vocal mural]

2,28L/100km average for me

[dire merlin]

avg speed? town traffic I assume

[vocal mural]

Average fuel consumption for my moped

[dire merlin]

whats ur avg speed. used to have one ages ago and it seemed to consume a tanker whenever I went over 40kph

[vocal mural]

40km/h

[stoic ledge]

Yeah so I wasn't that far off

[fathom socket]

yo

[lone fern]

it hit $ 6.00 in northern michigan, still 5.18 near me aaaaa

[lament crest]

My car stopped in the middle of the road

Said low power, check engine light, and slippery road

Pretty sure it’s the camshaft

Why does this happen?

[lone fern]

are you sure its the camshaft?

did you blow a rod?

or a piston?

[lament crest]

It turned on after 30 minutes

30 minutes too late

Anyone know where I can get a Nissan GT-R r34 skyline?

[prime valve]

Japan

Unless you live in the US then you have to search for a long time

[lament crest]

Can’t I buy one from Japan and bring it here?

[prime valve]

Where is here ?

[lament crest]

Is

Us*

[prime valve]

US has stupid import laws

it has to be 25 years old

so you can import it

[lament crest]

Isn’t it just 20 years old?

[prime valve]

it has to be 25

[lament crest]

FUCK

Ok I’ll try again in 2027 then

[prime valve]

You can buy one in the US but umm you will pay a decent amount for it

[lament crest]

Do imports have to follow the same rules for custom and aftermarket parts

[lament crest]

Yeah not a problem

[prime valve]

Most likely

[lament crest]

Oh nevermind I guess

I’ll take a gtr r34 skyline manual transmission

[prime valve]

I mean you can buy it in the US it just costs a lot more

and it can be a rust bucket

[lament crest]

Damn

Do they still make skyline or no?

[prime valve]

Watch some older DDE videos they talk about it

r35

[lament crest]

R35 is skyline?

[prime valve]

nope its a different platform

[lament crest]

What determines what car is a skyline or not?

Just r32 and r34?

Or?

[prime valve]

https://garagedreams.net/car-facts/why-is-the-r35-not-a-skyline

here you go

[lament crest]

Damn

[prime valve]

Older cars are cool

but parts are just more and more expensive

unlike the supra

They actually still make the 2jz block and parts

[lament crest]

Bruh

Then what you think

Toyota gr86 or Subaru Impreza?

Manual transmission

[prime valve]

gr86 is pretty cool

but not many mods

unless you engine swap

subaru is cool too

I have become a fan of the wrx sti

[lament crest]

I live in California where kids are stricter

Mods*

[prime valve]

I mean depends what you like

Also which subaru impreza ?

[lament crest]

Compact/sports

[prime valve]

subaru forester sti looks cool and ugly at the same time

[lament crest]

Compact not suv

[lament crest]

Lol

[prime valve]

this ?

[lament crest]

Compact

[prime valve]

what other options you have ?

[lament crest]

Sports

And sports compact

[prime valve]

I mean wrx looks cool

id get a audi a3 2.0tfsi

[lament crest]

Yes

That

[prime valve]

Or a4

same engine

[lament crest]

Not into Audi sorry

[prime valve]

it all depends what you will use it for

and what you plan to do with it

[hollow pasture]

legally yes but like i know people that have cars that should have been failed by the dot inspection 20k ago

[lament crest]

Commute and quarter mile race and stuff LEGALLY

[lament crest]

20k?

[prime valve]

Go with the gr86 fun lil car

[lament crest]

What about drifting down the mountain pass?

[hollow pasture]

ive got a buddy with a foxbody mustang

he put a 455 in it and a giant ass whipple supercharger

[lament crest]

Nice

Not much of a v8 person sorry

[viscid atlas]

U need to pick something, quarter mile, drift, mountain road driving

Getting something that checks every box well is difficult and expensive

For quarter mile, and drifting, around 20K, a Corvette C5 maybe the best option

U get RWD, u get a powerful enough engine that can be upgraded a ton, you also get a platform that's cheap to work on as it's domestic

If you didnt want to drift, a Porsche Cayman is a good option (2006~) as it's fast enough in quarter mile times, and it's very fun at going fast in mountain roads, however it won't slide aswell

Oh also the caymans repairs would be more expensive

[lament crest]

Drift is mandatory

Mountain road is mandatory (like initial D)

Quarter mile is whatever

[viscid atlas]

Get a C5 Vette, very sporty, cheap to repair, fast, and easy to work on

[lament crest]

Send picture

[viscid atlas]

You must've seen one on the road at some point

[lament crest]

Is that a corvette?

[viscid atlas]

Although they're not as common as C6

Yeah, it is

[lament crest]

Possibly?

[lament crest]

Got one that’s from a Japanese company?

Toyota

Nissan

[viscid atlas]

I wouldnt recommend any of those anymore

[lament crest]

Mitsubishi (specifically their lan evos)

[lament crest]

Why?

[viscid atlas]

Way too expensive to work on, and expensive to get

[lament crest]

Price is just a number

[viscid atlas]

They used to be awesome when they were cheap

Yeah, price is indeed a number, but at some point it's important

[lament crest]

That’s cuz ford and Chevy ain’t as good as they used to be

[viscid atlas]

Yeah i know, that's why you don't get a new one

C5 is 1999~

[lament crest]

Ok my budget is how much I make in half a year

[viscid atlas]

Are you planning on spending cash, or are you financing?

[lament crest]

Cash

So 15k or lower

Used

[viscid atlas]

I don't think you can get a Japanese import car that's actually worth getting for 15K for drifting

[lament crest]

Should I finance?

[lament crest]

AE86?

[viscid atlas]

If you have a good credit score you should finance what you can pay off in a year for ayee

Sure*

[lament crest]

It’s over 700

So not that good

[viscid atlas]

Hmm

[lament crest]

Over 750 is my credit score

Is that good enough to finance a car?

[viscid atlas]

I'm not sure how APR works anymore, but from what I remember if you do pay it off under a year you don't take much if at all interest on it

You should ask this to your bank tho

As I've said i don't remember and I'm not sure

[lament crest]

Ok

[viscid atlas]

But usually the smart thing to do is finance the car that you can afford with your saved money

[lament crest]

Ok makes sense to me

[viscid atlas]

So you have money in your pocket, and you pay it off while earning

[lament crest]

Gotcha

[viscid atlas]

Yeah tho import wise all the fun and good drift platforms are basically gone now

Miatas, S13, S14, Supra MK3/MK4

[lament crest]

Problem with important is that they still follow the same laws as us cars so

[viscid atlas]

If you can find a BRZ that's a decent option, but the engines very very weak

[lament crest]

Not much of a point for going for import

Might as well get it from the states

[viscid atlas]

Import laws are stricter pre market

[lament crest]

Yeh

So imma just get one not imported

[viscid atlas]

Ofcourse that doesn't affect aftermarket, but still it's good to keep in mind

[lament crest]

Import cars follow same aftermarket and mod rules as non import cars

[viscid atlas]

I would recommend a C5 if you can afford it as i personally think that's what you're looking for, however it is a car with a very powerful engine, so you really need to learn to drift it safely at a track

[lament crest]

I want an easy going car before I drive something powerful

[viscid atlas]

Yeah, then if you can find one a BRZ, GT-86, or an FRS

Since they're the same car and all

But the issue with those is the engine is very weak, so it's slow for quarter mile

It'll be a ton of fun still tho

And since it's atmospheric you can always turbo or supercharge it

It'll be expensive to do that tho so keep that in mind

[lament crest]

Ok so I found a lan evo on Craigslist for 1.2k

Used

08

[viscid atlas]

08 lancer Evo, hmm

It's 1.2K

That sounds like either a salvage title, missing engine, or not running

That's way too cheap

Also ur not drifting a lancer evo

Those are AWD

[lament crest]

You can drift an AWD?

[viscid atlas]

I know you can technically drift AWD cars, but Evo is one of those that you won't be able to

[lament crest]

Also just to teach me how to drive stick for now

[viscid atlas]

Like not without heavy drift spec modifications

Like my car too, it's AWD and hates sliding

Even tho the power ratio is something like 90 to 10

[lament crest]

Dude I need to learn stick before I drive something powerful

[viscid atlas]

You could also always go for a 370Z, but they sound terrible and dont drive that well till you put some money into it

[lament crest]

Aren’t those expensive af

[viscid atlas]

I learned stick on a 1989 200SX with 200hp

No they're not that expensive, used ones atleast

[lament crest]

Ok so 350z

[viscid atlas]

And also, i only drove that car like 10 months

Then i switched to a 911 stick shift

With 320~ hp

Didn't rly feel a shift

And the 911 is atmospheric too so low RPM is way more tourqy than that 200sx

[lament crest]

350z 9k

370z a lot more

[viscid atlas]

Just make sure you don't get the drop top one

Yea 350z and 370z are basically the same cars tbh

The 370z just looks a lot better

[lament crest]

Ok

Problem is

You know how newer cars can get camshaft problems from no reason at like the worst time?

@viscid atlas

I don’t want to deal with that

So

[viscid atlas]

Wdym by newer

[lament crest]

350 z

2010 and newer

[viscid atlas]

It depends on the engine

[lament crest]

Where the car will slow tf down or stop

[viscid atlas]

They don't just get camshaft problems out of the blue

[lament crest]

They did for me

[viscid atlas]

Wdym for you?

[lament crest]

Keep patriot and Chevy equinox

Jeep*

I was leaving staples

Camshaft has problem

Engine turns off

And yeah it was stuck in the middle of the parking lot

[viscid atlas]

Give me a sec

[lament crest]

Had to get a tow

Turned on when he dropped it off at my house

[viscid atlas]

So the jeep Patriot uses a VW 2.0 or a 2.4 engine

[lament crest]

No fucking clue

My dad bought it for me

[viscid atlas]

And the equinox uses a 3.6 Dual overhead cam engine

[lament crest]

Possibly

I think so

[viscid atlas]

Which, the dual overhead cam has been around a long long time

[lament crest]

It’s like a 2010 Chevy

2011 jeep

Or other way around for years

Idk

[viscid atlas]

Ah wait, the lower trim of the 2010 equinox used a 2.4l direct injection

Yeah, it seems like these 2 engines are known for failures

[lament crest]

Both the jeep and Chevy

[viscid atlas]

The equinox 2.4l and the VW 2.4l that's in the jeep

[lament crest]

?

Yeah so?

[viscid atlas]

Yeah, so I'm pretty sure you managed to get 2 cars that just happened to have bad engines

[lament crest]

Damn

[viscid atlas]

Example wise the Subaru BRZ, which is a newer car, people drive those things to the ground and the engine doesn't break that easy

Same with the 370Zs

People drive those to the ground too and the engine doesn't break that often

[lament crest]

Ok

What’s a good car to get a feel for driving stick?

[viscid atlas]

Any car that is a stick shift that doesn't have a mushy clutch

Stick isn't rly something that's that hard once you do it like a couple times

You just get more and more used to it overtime

[lament crest]

08 lan evo good?

[viscid atlas]

Yeah, that'll be fine

Those break a lot btw

[lament crest]

Why they break a lot?

[viscid atlas]

lan Evo are kinda known for that

[lament crest]

Bad engine?

[lament crest]

Oh?

[viscid atlas]

To be honest, I'm not sure, it's just kinda what they're known for

I've never driven one, nor have ive had that much interest in one since I'm more of a 2 door person

[lament crest]

Ok

[lament crest]

@viscid atlas dad said no to lan evo

[viscid atlas]

Lol

Rop

Rip*

[lament crest]

He really wants me to drive that old Jeep Patriot

[viscid atlas]

I mean if you can't you can't you know

[lament crest]

Yeah

Not until I move out

In a couple of years

[viscid atlas]

Yea, u should prioritize that for sure

[deep zealot]

Rip

[lament crest]

Yeh

[lament crest]

OUCH

[viscid atlas]

Yikes

[steep plume]

Ouchh

I kinda know the pain

It happened like 2 months ago

[brazen river]

we had a similar scratch on our family Camry a few years back. We got it (mostly) covered by some guys in a red pickup truck who happened to have close enough paint. Costed us 100 bucks or so

wasn't bad

the dent in the car itself was hammered out easy, the paint was slightly off color but we weren't complaining for how cheap it was

[vagrant dune]

anyone here know what could cause a b7 a4 esp light to come on?

[stoic ledge]

Usually a faulty sensor

Best to read it with an obd scanner

[stoic ledge]

No way, did that happen today? 🥲

[civic spoke]

Cheers.

[lament crest]

@viscid atlas does 2004 Toyota 4Runner have bad engine?

[charred depot]

Biggest boot

Alright width thanks to the french suspension

[viscid atlas]

I don't know, googl it's engine options and see what comes up

[civic spoke]

Wouldn't you guys love to drive up behind this?

[jagged dew]

Ooo, no warning or anything, scary

[prime valve]

Merica

[prime valve]

get a 350z or a 370z

its good for track and drift

[civic spoke]

Not required. Doesn't stick out more than a meter.

[jagged dew]

Well, that's stupid

[civic spoke]

Beyond a meter. Then it's required.

Totally safe.

[deep zealot]

Happened at night in the garage

Pillar was in my blindspot and i wasn’t careful enough

[stoic ledge]

Oof sad 😢

[civic spoke]

There. Are you guys happy?

[viscid atlas]

Good for track and drift after some $$$ has been put into it

But yes i agree with 350z/370z anyways

They're great platforms

[prime valve]

I mean ls platform is the ultimate drift machine

[viscid atlas]

I wouldn't call it that at all, people still prefer S chassis over them

[prime valve]

2jz will always be winning

[viscid atlas]

Engine doesn't matter

In drift machines the engine gets swapped

Whatever the driver prefers is usually in the car

[prime valve]

Yeah but they use many similar engine platforms

[viscid atlas]

And engine wise the 370 engine is not that good

Or the 350

[prime valve]

stock block it can do 500hp

but its not a great engine

[viscid atlas]

Yes, a lot of stock blocks can do that

For a 3+ litre V6 500hp isn't that impressive

[prime valve]

Yeah I know

that why the 2jz is still golden

[viscid atlas]

It's the most popular and uses engine in drifting probably

And yeah it's a great platform

[prime valve]

same from 1/4 mile

[viscid atlas]

Eh, quarter mile V8s are more popular

As you can squeeze more out of them

And if i was building a drift machine I'd still stick with a Corvette anyways, cheaper to build

[prime valve]

Pro League they use many LS engines and 2jz

I see many 2jz swaps

[viscid atlas]

Well, yeah, because LS and 2JZ are the 2 platforms that stock blocks can handle a lot

I'd rather use LS than 2JZ tho, because it can handle more

And it's cheaper to build

[prime valve]

depends where you live

US LS engines are basically free

[viscid atlas]

Well yeah, that's why I'm saying i would rather

Because I'm in the US

[prime valve]

But in Europe 2jz is better since you can buy it from the dealer

[viscid atlas]

Yep

[prime valve]

However I would love to see a audi 2.2 5 cylinder

in drift league

[viscid atlas]

I heavily doubt that'll ever happen

[prime valve]

Yeah chances are slim but never 0 :)

[lone fern]

i have a 4.2l v6 that makes 202 💀💀

[viscid atlas]

Sad

[lone fern]

yep

makes 270 foot pounds of torque tho but still sad overall

[charred depot]

205 pondering

[bitter compass]

Wdym 7 liter v8, 190hp goes brrrrrrr

[fathom wren]

Wild EV Beatle wandering around my city

[lament crest]

My cassette tape adapter for my car to let me listen to music on my phone kept getting rejected

Why?

[vocal mural]

Turn on sound before you put in

[viscid atlas]

I mean, to be honest, doing something like that is impressive

[lone fern]

ford’s 7.3l idi turbo makes 183 hp

[viscid atlas]

Yeah i know, that's impressive XD

[lone fern]

but 388lb-ft torque

and its from 86-94

[viscid atlas]

Still kinda low for a 7.3

Even from that era

[lone fern]

yea

it wasnt even ford it was international but still

[wispy cloak]

The 392 in my firetruck makes 170hp

[viscid atlas]

My 3.6 makes 320

[stoic ledge]

Those are diesel, makes kind of sense. They have lots of torque low end which is all that matters

[wispy cloak]

My 5.9 makes 250

[hollow pasture]

Koenigseggs TFG 3cyl makes 600 hp

[stoic ledge]

My 1.2 makes 83 or 86hp depending on the fuel 😎

[hollow pasture]

freevalve is pretty insane tech

[wispy cloak]

My 1.6 makes 80hp

And my 2.8 makes 172hp

[hollow pasture]

i have a slightly modded volvo xc90

[wispy cloak]

I have a mustang that almost nothing is stock on

[viscid atlas]

The average 6 cyl 3+ liter probably makes 280

[stoic ledge]

Yamaha V8?

[viscid atlas]

Unmodified

[stoic ledge]

8v engine?

[viscid atlas]

8 volt engine?

[stoic ledge]

8 valve 😛

[wispy cloak]

Yes

[stoic ledge]

Expected values then

[wispy cloak]

There's a 16v variant but the one I have is blown up

[hollow pasture]

i think my fav thing about the xc90 is how throaty the engine sounds

[wispy cloak]

So 8v it is

[viscid atlas]

Lmao

[stoic ledge]

N/A 1.6 16v go 100-120, maybe more with direct injection nowadays (~140, see Suzuki and Kia)

[viscid atlas]

Ah yes

A friend of mines panthera had a V8-3

Because he was using it with 3 cylinders just not firing

[stoic ledge]

5 cyl nice

[viscid atlas]

Yeeee

[wispy cloak]

All of my cars have 2v per cylinder

[stoic ledge]

Hmm mines a 1.2 16v, so 4x4v

Parents is 1.4T, 16v so 4x4v again

[viscid atlas]

I actually have no idea how many valves my engine has

[stoic ledge]

I think all cars in our family (brother, parents) is 16v 👀

[viscid atlas]

So, if someone can figure out how many valves an M96/05 gas, that many

[wispy cloak]

I own two v8s, a v6, and an i4

One car also used to have an i4

[viscid atlas]

Ah, it's 4 valves per cyl

So 24

[wispy cloak]

But now it has nothing

[vocal mural]

That will be insane amount of A

[viscid atlas]

Y e s

I'm still wanting a V10 R8 tho

[wispy cloak]

Sounds expensive

[stoic ledge]

Should've bought Hoovies R8

[viscid atlas]

It is

[vocal mural]

This fuse will blow up ||In my mouth||

[stoic ledge]

Mergpijpje

[stoic ledge]

[wispy cloak]

[viscid atlas]

audio-visual auto alert

[stoic ledge]

La vache qui rit

[viscid atlas]

XD

Here we see one of those slow blows at work

[stoic ledge]

I love my brothers diesel for that, 1 fillup = 800 miles driving

[stoic ledge]

Slav 😎

[vocal mural]

Well, I will assemble that in the future then

[stoic ledge]

[wispy cloak]

To be fair I've been doing more towing and I thought it would be worse

[stoic ledge]

Btw guys, great news
https://c.tenor.com/9MajTADSK5wAAAAM/dacia-top-gear.gif

Dacia facelifted their lineup with a new logo

Also amazing: the new color "Lichen Kaki"

[charred depot]

ford in standard pose

[stoic ledge]

Meanwhile chad Peugeot always working as intended

[charred depot]

The saab is so aids to drive now that im using another car

It all feels wrong

[bitter compass]

I like the bottle opener - Bavarian work toolset approved

[brittle totem]

Does anyone know if the Bmw 125i manual m sport f20 is fun car as an daily driver compared to like a golf gti mk7 ? For some reason the 125i is much cheaper then a golf gti mk7 here in Sweden. A well optioned 125i is like 15000$ and similer golf gti is more then 20000$.

[stoic ledge]

The RWD is fun, but they are very narrow in side, if you're taller and/or wider you probably won't properly fit in it

[brittle totem]

Do you know if the are more narrow then like a cupra ibiza its my brother that is looking for a new daily driver he just sold his 325i e91 and is looking for something smaller but still a bit sporty car with a decent fuel consumption. Because in the cupra ibiza he was fine so the 1 series should not be a problem right ?

[stoic ledge]

Ngl, idk. I have more space in my Corsa than both the F20 and the F40 1er lol

Definitely smaller than an E91 and I didn't really think that was particularly roomy, especially width wise. But that was acceptable, just wide enough. But not much to spare

But just go out and test fit one 😛

[brittle totem]

Weird we did a "roadtrip" in the e91 with our whole family and the shortest of us is around 180cm and it wasn't a problem even with all the luggage.

Why is the 125I m sport so "cheap" compared to it competitors i found a nice on with the big navigation/infotainment and the harman kardon sound system and the full m sport package with the leather comfort seats for just 14500€. A similer speced golk mk7 is like 22000€ If you can find one with the manual gearbox.

[stoic ledge]

Is it just that one or are there more of those?

That sounds suspiciously cheap, ngl

[brittle totem]

There is 2 for sale the other one is bit cheaper but does not have the harman kardon sound system and is 1 year older. Both have similar mileage.

[stoic ledge]

Hmmmm still sus

[brittle totem]

And it has clean history to just 3 owners that have hade if four around 3 years each. My mom bought a bmw 225i xdrive f45 for like 16000€ like 1,5 years ago with nearly all the optiones to so it seems like 25i models is selling for less for some random reason here in Sweden. Maybe because people doesn't know that they exis because they are few of them in Sweden. There is just 14 bmw 225i f45 in the whole county.

[stoic ledge]

What year is the F20 btw?

[brittle totem]

2014

[stoic ledge]

Aaah so that's the N20 then, not the later B48

I thought there was something with the N20's, but I can't remember what

[brittle totem]

Is the N20 a non reliable engine ? My mom cars has the b48 engine and haven't hade single issue according to the old owner which is the only owner before my mom bought it.

[stoic ledge]

Apparently it's alright, but still gotta look out for timing chains, correct oil/services on time etc.

By the looks of it the N20 isn't bad but the B48 is better xD

Also don't mod is apparently xD

[deep zealot]

N20 is a great engine I have one myself. It’s actually faster than the B48 in my experience (turbo feels lot less laggy and is underrated more). But B48 is undeniably the better engine tbh

That said i’ve got 86K miles in my N26 and not a single issue (besides a turbo crack that was fixed for free) and I beat the hell out of this car lol

[fathom socket]

Backrooms but fancy

[bitter compass]

Daily hate against opel: who the fuck put the stupid armrest in the middle there in a Meriva

Let me freaking shift without being annoyed by that thing

Has the 140i the same engine etc as the 240i?

Then i give it a thumbs up i like the 240i

I looked at M2 but they're outside of my preferred spending limit

Yeah im at the point of preferring autos rn

[stoic ledge]

What?

Where else does the armrest need to be? On the roof?

On the left of the steeringwheel?

[brittle totem]

He is still thinking on getting a abarth 595 competizione because they are both in the same price range buy he is worried that he won't fit in that car anyway so it he will probably buy they 125i instead. It Always like that he is looking on other brands buy in the end he always chooses a bmw.

[bitter compass]

Not having one at all, i couldn't care less about an armrest xD

[stoic ledge]

Yikes

But if it really annoys you

You can literally take it out

[deep zealot]

I'm the opposite 😂 I'm trying to find an M3 with a manual

[stoic ledge]

Manual über alles btw

[bitter compass]

And i never had an issue with the positioning of the armrest in the golf

But had to take the meriva because i needed the space

[stoic ledge]

Idk what's wrong with the position but okay

You can also slide it backwards btw

Like, extremely far

[bitter compass]

I had it folded up, and somehow felt my arm cramped between it and the shifter when i wanted to shift

[stoic ledge]

Wait what folded up?

Was it the Meriva A then?

[bitter compass]

Meriva a

Yes

[stoic ledge]

Aaaaah

[bitter compass]

Also its slightly annoying that i cant just tap the blinker

[stoic ledge]

Yeah that's how it was back then lol

[bitter compass]

My caddy could do that 👀

And it was from the same time

[brittle totem]

And it sound pretty good to but idk if it is good car as an daily driver because he need his car to travel to and back from work everyday. Does the 125I sound nice or is just quiet as most of the 2l turbo charged engines ?

[stoic ledge]

Yeah that was just the point where they went over

Golf Mk4 didn't have is, Golf Mk5 did

Astra G didn't have it, Astra H did

Meriva A had the same stalk as the Corsa C and Astra G

This armrest is 👌 btw

[bitter compass]

Ye the golf has a somewhat similar one but well I don't use it

[stoic ledge]

Golf can't so this xD

[bitter compass]

And i probably never will

[stoic ledge]

I need an armrest 😛 I wouldn't buy one without it

[bitter compass]

I guess im just used to not having one

[stoic ledge]

Even the car of a driving school had one

So I've basically always driven with one

[bitter compass]

Both my dailys didn't have one

So yeah

[stoic ledge]

Understandable

[bitter compass]

Maybe my next one will have one

If i don't keep getting distracted

And look at an e30 what would mean that i needed a winter car

[viscid atlas]

stick is pog

[deep zealot]

it is

Ive been driving auto for a couple years now

About time I went for a stick sports car

[stoic ledge]

Stick 1.2 gang 😎

[bitter compass]

Only owning stick cars until now - but lately with all the traffic im annoyed by it

[stoic ledge]

I've only owned 1 car so yeah 😎

But not much traffic jams

Apparently I own it for 6 years since last week, I forgot that Time flies

[deep zealot]

Autos are super nice for traffic and hassle free

But everyone raves over manual cars

So I need to try one

[stoic ledge]

Anti theft device

[bitter compass]

And driving a manual after 10+ hours of work also kinda bugs me because tired even if its partly automated in my brain those minor unclean shifts annoy me

[stoic ledge]

Ok I never had that problem 😛

[bitter compass]

For daily driving i kinda want an auto currently

Maybe im pissed off of it after a few months but hmm cant hurt

[deep zealot]

lots of different auto cars to pick from

SMGs, DCTs, TCs, CVTs

[bitter compass]

Im still thinking about that dsg golf gti shit but

I kinda don't want a boring gti

[stoic ledge]

Manual > all
But auto, TC > all

But modern TC's

[deep zealot]

Oh yeah I love my ZF8

[stoic ledge]

ZF 8HP

Yes

[deep zealot]

Theres simply nothing like a ZF8

Just hit a button on the throttle, and the ZF flies through multiple gears and finds the lowest possible one

[brittle totem]

Yeah that was like most about my Moms 225i xdrive f45 that pick ups so well if you want to overtake someone or accelerate up to speed. Compared to my dads 2021 passat that has huge lag it takes like 2 sec before anything happens at all. And then we have the turbo lag after that.

[deep zealot]

yeah a lot of engineering goes into BMWs to ensure minimum lag even on comfort settings

[bitter compass]

Well a passat just isnt a sporty car

Its a dad car

[charred depot]

about 100x faster than a 1997 auto slk

oh oh oh is it going to shift its happening

[deep zealot]

for some reason, this statement reminded me of a woman going into labor

"oh oh the babies gonna come out"

[charred depot]

old autos are generally fokin shite

[brittle totem]

I know that but you should be able to overtake comfortable with 200hp car. My moms car is not sport at all 2 its latterly like the opposite of a sporty car. Its like a mini van.

[bitter compass]

Oh i keep ignoring the minivan bmw 2 series

[charred depot]

I overtake in the 50hp 205, have to do a massive runup then if its nothings coming go for it

I miss the saabs 130hp a bit

[deep zealot]

is it actually 50 hp

[charred depot]

pretty much yeah

My 305 has the same engine

[bitter compass]

Low hp gang

[deep zealot]

maybe i’m just greedy

[bitter compass]

60hp for the win

[deep zealot]

i’m not satisfied with my 250 hp

[bitter compass]

It's not about the numbers

[charred depot]

If the car can get to 75mph meh

[bitter compass]

Its about how fast it feels

[charred depot]

I like the humour of shitey old underpoweredcars

[bitter compass]

Like driving 170 in my up feels like frightening fast, 200 in the standard golf is like yea... It drives

Oh yeah i mean 130

People have speed limits

👀

[charred depot]

I have an engine for the saab which does 300hp but meh

its just going to get me in trouble

pretty much exclusively buying diesels now due to fuel prices

[stoic ledge]

F45 has a 7DCT not the ZF 8HP

None of the FWD platform have the ZF 8HP

Magna 7DCT300, also used in Mercedes, Renault, Mitsubishi, Nissan...

Ah no that's only the 1.5T apparently, 2.0T has an Aisin AW F8FXX

Also used by GM, PSA, Lexus, Volvo...

[stoic ledge]

This is a DCT

[stoic ledge]

This is a torque converter

[brittle totem]

Nope its an 8 speed maybe their is differents between the AWD version and the FWD version my moms car has AWD/Xdrive but either way its picks up way better then my dads passat with 7 speed DSG.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah got confused with the 3-cyl engines

But still, no ZF 8HP

Like I said, Aisin AWF8F

Ngl, after the ZF 8HP that's my next favourite transmission

Haven't driven it in BMW's but I have in Volvo's and PSA cars

[lament crest]

Is there like a website I can use to find local cars in my car for sale

[charred depot]

tesla driver wasnt happy about the range rover gettin in their zone

suprised I have not witnessed a mirror explosion yet

[sudden pecan]

suv drivers

[fathom socket]

excuse me but how did it get to 5k rpm so fast

[deep zealot]

The beauty of a ZF8 transmission

goes directly from 8th to 2nd gear

[fathom socket]

OH WTF

i thought that was an acceleration

[jovial mauve]

you get used to everything so just give it a tune 😛

[viral raptor]

I might need to get a more financially friendly car

Been looking at a 2015 peugeot 208

Not thrilled about it but since gas is 2,5€/L feels like I have no choice

[sullen roost]

yeah it is really expensive haha

[eager grove]

Yeah there's like a big hatchback 2 series, a 7 seat MPV, a saloon version of the FWD 1 series and a rear wheel drive coupe and convertible

it's like...get a new series

why are those all the same

[jovial mauve]

yeah its insane, 208 quite nice car looks wise 🙂

[viral raptor]

Yeah it looks nice at least, just not sure on the reliability etc.

Probably better than my 2005 A3 though lol

[jovial mauve]

fuel consumption that bad on the a3?

[viral raptor]

It's the 2.0 so yeah

The 208 supposedly uses nearly twice less what mine does lol

The 208 is a 1.2 though

[jovial mauve]

i mean

where do you live?

if you care about saving on some fuel you got to let the 2.0 go 😛

[viral raptor]

I live in Finland and yeah most likely will have to say bye to the 2.0

[flat grotto]

Get a 1.9tdi ;)

[civic spoke]

In today's episode of "What the truck are you doing?". We get a 100+ kg cable drum up on the truck by ourselves!

[flat grotto]

Hahahhaa wtf.

Also hey glassbomb, thought i recognized the name

[civic spoke]

Hey knight.

[jovial mauve]

Yeah you know cars are a passion to, but when they cross the line being to expensive of no more fun to drive bc gas prices it is ok to let go

[viral raptor]

Diesel is over 3€/L 🥲

+would have to pay extra tax for diesel

[jovial mauve]

Holy ahit

3 euro per L ?

[viral raptor]

Last time I saw yes

My country hates diesel owners

[jovial mauve]

So it would seem haha

What about gas? Like MK

[charred depot]

any classic tax exemptions?

[viral raptor]

The price of gas? 2,5€/L for 95 and 2,8€/L for 98

[stoic ledge]

I think he means LPG

But iirc that's not a thing in Scandinavia

[viral raptor]

Not common no

[stoic ledge]

Sadge

Currently LPG is like ⅓ the price of regular petrol

😎

No way it even went down more

Was €0.669/L for a few weeks, now it's €0.639/L

[jovial mauve]

i ment LPG yeah

[charred depot]

get a natural gas conversion and have a fuel station at home

[stoic ledge]

Imagine if you could do that

[civic spoke]

Just get a car that runs on nuclear.

[jovial mauve]

it all comes down to personal situations and how much you are willing to pay

and preference ofc

i had a v8 on my ''next car'' list but eeeeh

[stoic ledge]

I had a 5-cyl on my "next car" list but eeeeh

I'll keep the 1.2 LPG for now xD

[civic spoke]

I still want an EV. But they are still expensive, and charging for me isn't the greatest.

[stoic ledge]

0.639 for LPG vs 2.069 for regular in Belgium....

Over 1.40/L difference, that's a lot

[jovial mauve]

tbh for me its more like yes i can get a v8 and yes it will be cool, but i dont want to go for gas like every 2 days it is not even a money thing, but it feels like a waste

get a v8 and drive it like a bot

-_-

[stoic ledge]

[jovial mauve]

yesssssss 5cyl so amazing omg

but tbh if you buy a performance car even if it is a 4 pitter mpg will be trash

but we are in te market to get solar pannels so if that goes through ill gues no new car until next year

[stoic ledge]

Our solar inverter is shutting off the last couple of days

Voltage too high

🥲

[jovial mauve]

really?

how many panels did you get?

[stoic ledge]

12*350Wp = 4200Wp

Going to swap a phase tomorrow

See if that helps

[jovial mauve]

hmm

we are looking at 16 total

[viral raptor]

Soon I'll be cruising with a whopping 80hp

[jovial mauve]

but i just did the bathroom not really keen spending so much on solar panels for my non electric car 😛

[jovial mauve]

tbh i dont think it will be beter ever, only getting worse

you have your own place right?

[stoic ledge]

Nope at my parents xD

[jovial mauve]

oh okay

well then its better to save for house 😛

then i would keep the corsa as well

[stoic ledge]

investing

[jovial mauve]

?