cars

[charred depot]

well its probably more the kind of people that must have the newest shinyest thing

[jovial mauve]

^

[stoic ledge]

Very true

[jovial mauve]

friend works at terlouw jag/range dealer you have folks who get the newest model/faclift every year

[stoic ledge]

Also, especially those spec, are often (not always) driven by a special type of people

[charred depot]

dont need lasting quality when your first time buyers will only hold onto the car for a year

[jovial mauve]

our you etnisch profileren?

[stoic ledge]

Perhaps

[jovial mauve]

haha i think the town where i live has like 5 cop cars

[brittle totem]

Here in Sweden our BMW 225i xdrive nearly fully loaded was cheaper then like a decent Volkswagen golf with like 115hp. We bought it from a official Kia dealer ship so the probably didn't know the market value of the car because their is just like 14 other 225i with xdrive in Sweden.

[jovial mauve]

nice

the car market here has gone up last year to crazy amounts

[charred depot]

the cars nobody really wants market is looking fine for me :^)

[jovial mauve]

folks here put paper cards on older cars, like cheap small ones offering to buy them haha

[jovial mauve]

i mean thats nice then 😄

[stoic ledge]

I depreciated like 2k over 6 years

Driving a car from 4 to 10 years old

😅

[charred depot]

my cars are appreciating I guess

[stoic ledge]

Can't go lower than 0

😛

[jovial mauve]

i dont want to talk about that 😛

i have learned to never ever buy a brand new car again

if i have like 80 mil perhaps

[charred depot]

saab £1k peugeot over £2k :^)

fair values

[brittle totem]

We bought it right before that for 15500$ I would say that is very good deal for modern BMW that is nearly fully loaded with options. With a brand new set of winter tires included.

[jovial mauve]

yes

if the price was the same here i would buy it as well

[charred depot]

year and mileage

[brittle totem]

2015 it had a bit over 120000km when we bought it.

[jovial mauve]

2014/2018

[stoic ledge]

Yeah my brothers Volvo diesel we bought 2 years ago can now be sold for more

And it's a diesel, nobody wants a diesel

[jovial mauve]

wait what

[stoic ledge]

[jovial mauve]

diesel?

sold for more

hacks

[stoic ledge]

😎

[jovial mauve]

my dad took his diesel to volvo and they said we dont want iiiiiiiiiiiiiit

[stoic ledge]

Changed the tires again to summer tires

Some very fresh rubber

[jovial mauve]

i quite like the model but diesel like

[stoic ledge]

Wk 17 2022

[jovial mauve]

it is def not worth it anymore

[stoic ledge]

But he drives ~ break even point, and it's like 5k cheaper to buy initially

And 2.0 diesel drives very nice

[jovial mauve]

oha yeah i garee diesels drive nice

but like gas is 5 cents more 😛

and the road tax is way more

buuut

how much is it for his car?

[stoic ledge]

Yeah but this thing does like 1:20

[charred depot]

diesels usually get like 10mpg atleast more though

[stoic ledge]

It's not for sale as everything to buy is crazy expensive

[jovial mauve]

okay yeah thats nioe

[stoic ledge]

[brittle totem]

In like February the cost for a full tank of diesel here in Sweden in our Passat 2021 was like 160$ the gas prices here is insane right now.

[jovial mauve]

no i mean how much is the road tax

[stoic ledge]

Ah like 1300/year iirc

[jovial mauve]

the v90 we had did like 1-12 MAYBE and it was a diesel

[stoic ledge]

V90 is very nice tho

[brittle totem]

Our Passat get like around 5,2l/100km at highway speeds around 110-120km/h

[stoic ledge]

V90 is also like barely more expensive than a V60

[stoic ledge]

Yeah that's very for such diesels on highway speeds

[jovial mauve]

meeeeh

[charred depot]

my aerodynamically challenged 80's diesel peugeot does well at its choice of highway speed

[jovial mauve]

dont hate it dont love it

it is very handy car tho

when you go on vacation you can take alof of stuff

[charred depot]

I think you can get lower than 4.7l / 100km at 50mph

70mph is basically full pelt

[stoic ledge]

I just do 8L/100km in zhe mighty Corsa

140km/h all day everyday

[jovial mauve]

i wish the v90 came with a 5cyl

[charred depot]

at 120kmh the saab does 10L / 100km

[stoic ledge]

Yeah I was thinking about driving the last model V60 5-cyl

But then I saw the new gas prices going up again

And LPG going down

I'll keep this one on LPG I think

Last Friday 0.724/L

[jovial mauve]

i ave given up on the gas prices i just dont look when i refuel

[stoic ledge]

Vs 2€ for regular petrol

[brittle totem]

But modern Volvo is so expensive I think a Volvo v90 is like more then Audi a6 here in Sweden.

[charred depot]

lpg is cheap here just cant get it many places :^(

[stoic ledge]

As a student it's something I have to look out for xD

[charred depot]

veg oil is my lpg

[stoic ledge]

I'd still drive a Volvo

But I think they're less expensive here

[charred depot]

£0.90/l new vs £1.75/l for diesel

[stoic ledge]

And definitely better equiped as standard

[brittle totem]

Nope the standard equipment is nearly the same on both cars here.

[stoic ledge]

[brittle totem]

The only different is that the base Volvo v90 is FWD and the base a6 here is AWD.

[jovial mauve]

true

i would get a6 all day every day

there is only one volvo i would want

https://www.autoscout24.nl/aanbod/volvo-v60-2-0-t6-awd-polestar-367pk-uy19007-btw-dealer-benzine-blauw-a8391f1a-9e51-428f-b597-5bb0b30a5059?sort=power&desc=1&lastSeenGuidPresent=true&cldtsrc=listPage&cldtidx=2&search_id=1ikob9g8fhj&source=listpage_search-results

[stoic ledge]

A6 Avant starts at €68k here, V90 at €66k? But the V90 is a PHEV, A6 is 2.0 TFSI FWD

So thr V90 is cheaper

[stoic ledge]

Not the 6-cyl T6 :/

[jovial mauve]

our v90 d4 was 69k sticker

[jovial mauve]

i mean it is nice

but i just like this one more 😛

[stoic ledge]

PHEV A6 starts at 75k

[jovial mauve]

the only thing i hate is the center console

[stoic ledge]

So the V90 is 9k cheaper

[jovial mauve]

yes but they are now made in china so they are trash apparently 😛

[half fossil]

Yo what cars does everyone own?

[stoic ledge]

V90 is still made in Sweden

[jovial mauve]

the actual volvo garage told us it was made in china and is now ass 😛

[charred depot]

made in china assembled in sweden

[stoic ledge]

Your garage is stupid

[wispy cloak]

I have a 2000 dakota r/t, 1997 a4, 1990 mustang lx, and a 1974 loadstar 1800 firetruck

[jovial mauve]

yes

[half fossil]

Nice man 🙂

[wispy cloak]

I also partially own a geo tracker

Funny car

[stoic ledge]

Is this..m a Suzuki

[half fossil]

I own a 2005 subaru impreza rs

[brittle totem]

Here in Sweden the hybrid version of the v90 is 5k cheaper then the hybrid a6 but the base diesel versions the a6 is like 3k cheaper then v90.

[wispy cloak]

It's a geo 😡

[jovial mauve]

btw MK the XC90 is gone

[charred depot]

praise the lord

[stoic ledge]

Ah diesels have been cancelled here xD

[jovial mauve]

Mazda is bringing the new 6cyl diesels tho!

[stoic ledge]

It's gone 🦀

[stoic ledge]

Yup but very likely not coming to NL

Also the CX-60 is apparently quite cheap inside?

RWD tho

[jovial mauve]

i seen the autoblog review thought it looked quite nice

[stoic ledge]

[jovial mauve]

i liked the xc90 tho was fast for such a unit, and sitting so high feels good

[charred depot]

[stoic ledge]

Anyway gotta drive home now, see y'all later

[jovial mauve]

wfh masterrace 😛

[brittle totem]

Am I am the only one who prefer the Volkswagen touareg over the audi q7 ? And the touareg is way cheaper to but basically the same car and it looks much more modern in my opnion.

[charred depot]

no 4 rings of success m8

[wispy cloak]

It's almost the same

[jovial mauve]

touareg looks better imo

i do like the audi steeringwheel more tho

but it is all so glossy

[jovial mauve]

if it is above 2k its trash right XD

[charred depot]

from the eyes of the deluded buyer if it doesent have the 4 rings of the audi logo you arent perceived as successful

simple as

[jovial mauve]

so people cant like german brands that are marked as premium

got it

[brittle totem]

Yeah the capacity buttons is the worst car trend right now it so awful.

[charred depot]

Im not going to stop them

[jovial mauve]

this and touch buttions on the wheel

[charred depot]

if it is basically the same then people are just buying it for image which I find funny

[jovial mauve]

no but it is quite a weird statement imo, like if someone likes the rs6 why cant they just enjoy it?

[jovial mauve]

so you feel better about yourself driving your cheap cars thenm or?

[charred depot]

im talking about the toureg and q7

I understand my cars are perceived as terrible but it is what I and my friends enjoy

I find buying cars for image funny, yes.

[brittle totem]

Yeah we hade a Tiguan as loaner last summer with the new steering wheel I accidently turned on travel assist/vw autopilot with just with touching the steering wheel while I was driving witch is pretty dangerous if you are not prepared to let the car take over in a middle of curve.

[jovial mauve]

so you cant accept that someone likes something just because it is cool?

it os only for image

righhhht

[charred depot]

between the q7 and toureg yes

[jovial mauve]

haha rip, cool car the tiguan?

i have only seen them on the road never from inside

[charred depot]

cool is a personal view, they are welcome to it I am unlikely to agree with the majority.

I hear french cars shite on a daily basis it is what it is.

[brittle totem]

The interior is exactly the same as our Passat so it pretty good it has everything you want in a car but nothing special. But it didn't have push to start which is weird for 45k car from 2021.

[jovial mauve]

dayum my dad used to own a carolla with push to start

[brittle totem]

Our old Toyota from 2011 hade push to start to. But the Tiguan hade keyless access buy not a puch to start bottom for some reason.

[charred depot]

I swear I seen a car recently which had a push to start button but still a key ignition. Didnt really get the point.

[brittle totem]

Nearly all gas powered Porsches has that still but they have fixed key in ignition slot so its like a bottom but you twist a "key" instead.

[stoic ledge]

Traffic jam

[charred depot]

naughty

[stoic ledge]

We were rolling at a lower pace but now we've been stationary for 10 minutes

[charred depot]

do what the verysmart people would do here and drive up the shoulder

1 will go and 100 will follow

[stoic ledge]

[brittle totem]

Same as here in Stockholm during rush hours a drive that should take less the n 30 min takes like 1,5 hour in the afternoon.

[stoic ledge]

Usually this road is fine but they are doing road works now on this highway makes 2 lanes -> 1 for 2 weeks

I survived the first one

But now... Nope

But idk why we're standing completely still now

[jovial mauve]

right lane is the extra speed lane

[charred depot]

indeed when you drive on the correct side of the road

truly unexpected https://insideevs.com/news/586079/tesla-cybertruck-order-europe-removed/

[brittle totem]

Is it to big for the roads here in Europe ?

[charred depot]

meh trucks manage

id like to see one make it through a UK maccas though

[stoic ledge]

I still can't see how that'd pass pedestrian protection

[brittle totem]

Me either but it is Tesla and they have hade very good safety overall so it will probably manages to do it.

[timber oar]

There's probably roads too small for me to walk on 😂

[vocal mural]

Horrible accident happened today again on that horrible railway crossing. Photo: 112Achterhoek Nieuws

Because it is on private property, ProRail may not close the crossing

[stoic ledge]

I always wonder how such things can happen

[idle birch]

i think a train hit it

[stoic ledge]

Yeah I know

But how do you get hit by a train

It's hard to miss

[idle birch]

maybe he got stuck idk

ran the barrier thinking they had time

[stoic ledge]

Don't think I got stuck

So probably not paying attention

If I'm not mistaken it's a crossing without barriers

[tribal heron]

I know what's wrong with it

Ain't got no gas in it

[jovial mauve]

So he got t boned by train?

[stoic ledge]

Yup

[fathom socket]

I feel like getting stuck on a level crossing would be unlikely unless the barriers came down

[stoic ledge]

It was a crossing without barriers

Ok no apparently it did have barriers

I thought I read it didn't have barriers

But if I look up the location, it definitely did have barriers

@vocal mural does it have barriers or not?

Yeah this is definitely the location, that's the same angle as in the picture

[chilly hatch]

what is the lightning bolt car model

like ur car has that lightning bolt

[stoic ledge]

Opel

[chilly hatch]

never heard of it

[stoic ledge]

Mostly sold in Europe

Used to be part of GM, many models have also been rebadged as Buick, Saturn, Cadillac, Holden... Over the years

Now part of Stellantis

I think in the 70's the Opel GT and Kadett were sold in the US also

[chilly hatch]

oh dang

there are a bunch of car manufacturers that are in eu but not na and vice vers

[stoic ledge]

Oh yeah definitely

And even manufacturers which are on both markets might have a different line-up/available models, sometimes the same models but with different model names and available engines, but sometimes even different cars for the same name

[chilly hatch]

idk why tho

restrictions?

[dusk ocean]

Demand

US would never require like 8 different hatchbacks

[chilly hatch]

like my first car will prolly be like idk

ill prolly drive my dads rx 350 first tho

that car is good

[chilly hatch]

truee

but hatchbacks are pretty good

[idle birch]

its vauxhall in the uk

[flint sable]

Not car related but just went cloud surfing for the first time

[chilly hatch]

here we have

gmc

and

dodge

boring ass brnads

[flint sable]

I’ve seen some opels in the states

[chilly hatch]

in canada there are more hatchbacks than us

[idle birch]

hatchbacks are great

small cars are better

[chilly hatch]

ikr

i agree

[idle birch]

i have a softspot for shitboxes tbh

shitbox hatchback

[chilly hatch]

only big car i like is mini van's

those are so sick

but too big

tbf

[idle birch]

mini vans are cool

[chilly hatch]

ye what i dont like is pickup trucks

bro half the ppl that get one dont even use the bed

they just use it as a trunk 💀

[dusk ocean]

Where's the exit

[tribal heron]

Great for road trips

When you have to do 4+ 14 hour drives a year and a few 10 hour ones minivans are pretty legendary

[stoic ledge]

Should be either real old ones

Or newer ones rebadged as Saturn or Buick

[vocal mural]

No, it happened at Onsteinweg in Vorden. Unsecured

I think it is this one: (52.0951171, 6.3695373)

[stoic ledge]

Ah

Then I found or a different one, or the location was wronk in the article

[jovial mauve]

accident happend on my way to work a 5er vs a Yaris

Yaris lost

but i had to drive like a hour extra

[jovial mauve]

@stoic ledge we made the front page

https://www.gelderlander.nl/beuningen/ronkende-motoren-en-harde-muziek-omwonenden-gamma-in-actie-tegen-overlast-van-car-meetings~a6bdbc48/?fbclid=IwAR1vwt4rA390_-iDMIGj05KcAbmrBQ4--luUFFwEEypFKXpJL23cuJEywXs&cb=35c965fb0719f757e40b85e011faca7e&auth_rd=1

[jovial mauve]

shame some folks always ruin it

[flint sable]

Yep

[crisp cedar]

Thoughts

[stoic ledge]

Ngl can't blame them

[jovial mauve]

no me neither but i went there alot but it is always the same folk who ruin it then complain they cant go anywhere

[quiet juniper]

my car, it's a kia but it's actually awesome to drive.

These things are not a joke for the price range. Definitely a good priced sports car

[jovial mauve]

looks nive

what is it?

[quiet juniper]

Kia stinger

[jovial mauve]

amazing color

niceeee

i have seen 2 stingers so far here

[quiet juniper]

was about $50k CAD for financing

but that price for 365HP / twin turbos and launch control.

• all the other comforts of a premium car lol

[jovial mauve]

idk how much the stinger is here but that sounds like a good deal

[quiet juniper]

and mag lev ride

yeah if you get the chance to test drive one, you'll like it

[jovial mauve]

hahahahhaa

the starting price here is from 96k

[quiet juniper]

oof

yeah meanwhile they go for 35-40k Euros here...

45k if you get top trim and fully loaded.

[jovial mauve]

okay maybe im dumb at looking but this was sticker

idk waht they do on 2nd hand here

[quiet juniper]

l0l

yeah true

my car mostly sits in the garage under a cover

i use a ford escape for a daily driver.

price of gas has gone up a little too much since i bought it >.>...

[stoic ledge]

Always the same everywhere

Also, the Stinger V6 is 100k yes, diesel started at 65k iirc, 2.0T at 70k

🥲

[quiet juniper]

they have a diesel

oo

are they all rear wheel there, or awd?

[jovial mauve]

what are they 2nd hand now?

[stoic ledge]

The diesel is RWD

2.2 CDRI

[quiet juniper]

they only come in awd in canada, kind of a bummer

but it is rear wheel biased

[stoic ledge]

Second hand the diesels start at close to 40k iirc, with quite high miles. V6 models are very hard to find and still 70k+ used

[quiet juniper]

wonder why they cost so much, imported?

[jovial mauve]

si

[quiet juniper]

ahh

[stoic ledge]

Diesel and 2.0T is RWD, 3.3V6 AWD

[jovial mauve]

this country hates nice cars

[stoic ledge]

Well not really import, same goes for cars initially sold here. But we have a CO2 emissions tax

Which is high on those

[jovial mauve]

everything*

[quiet juniper]

i imagine you mostly see audis / bmws

for the higher end cars

[jovial mauve]

hahaha

[stoic ledge]

Yes but definitely on 3.3V6 Turbo AWD cars 😛

[jovial mauve]

golfs and polo's

small cars

[quiet juniper]

you european countries you.

[stoic ledge]

Ah they start at just 93k now for the V6 apparently

[jovial mauve]

jesus christ

[stoic ledge]

Price before tax €38.135
VAT €8.008
Emissions tax €46.877
== €93.020

[quiet juniper]

is fuel in liters in europe?

i imagine it is

[jovial mauve]

Emissions tax €46.877 i feel this in my soul

[stoic ledge]

Yup

Emissionstax is basically the same as the car + VAT

[jovial mauve]

it is such a scam

gas here was like 2,04 on april

now back to 2,19

[stoic ledge]

59% of a Kia Stinger goes to the governement

[quiet juniper]

$$$

[jovial mauve]

imagine buying a avantador

autoblog makes a list every year of the highest tax per car

[quiet juniper]

what are they priced around?

700k usd?

400-700k i imagine anyway

[charred depot]

£290/y road tax too much

[quiet juniper]

gonna silently call out jake

||bmw's are overrated.||

[charred depot]

Only absolutely smoke out the place just a wittle bit

[stoic ledge]

Before tax 338.357
VAT 71.055
Emissions 153.949
== 563.361

in euro

[jovial mauve]

https://www.autoblog.nl/nieuws/20-spots-met-het-hoogste-bpm-bedrag-87025

[quiet juniper]

wanted to test drive the c8, figured i'd have a chance

because they only start at like 70k CAD for base?

nope, 1k deposit

but the dealership there has a reputation for being... hard to deal with

[charred depot]

My road tax and insurance always annoys me as i can only be in one car at a time

[quiet juniper]

meanwhile you can walk into tesla and test drive shit no problem, usually with someone though

[jovial mauve]

1k deposit to test drive?

[charred depot]

I think the tesla is less likely to do a loop into a ditch

[stoic ledge]

Base Mustang V8: €38.500 before taxes, €8k sales tax, €63k emissions tax
Total: €110k

[quiet juniper]

yeah, the chevy dealership owner here has a reputation for being a prick

[charred depot]

The insurance company probably got fed up

[quiet juniper]

no one is going to crash their car with them in it with you lol

it's a drive along test

[charred depot]

One punch of the throttle

[quiet juniper]

so 1k to get someone to drive with you for approx 5 minutes

yep

pretty much

[charred depot]

Well you get it back if you dont fuck up

[quiet juniper]

sure you get it back.. in 2 business weeks

[stoic ledge]

Old Corvette had an emissions tax of €65.415, assuming the new Corvette C8 is the same... €75k+€65k == €140k

So around €150k would one cost probably

[charred depot]

If you dont have 1k on hand probably a time waster

[jovial mauve]

haha MK stop you are making me sad

[quiet juniper]

yeah, that's true lol

[jovial mauve]

i get this tho

[stoic ledge]

🥲

[jovial mauve]

when i sold my cars the amount of folks who just want to drive is insane

[quiet juniper]

so how does emissions tax work for you? included in sale price?

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[quiet juniper]

surprised you get billed so much

[stoic ledge]

That's why nobody drives such cars

:)

:(

[quiet juniper]

the reason i don't take the stinger out is because it's almost 8$/gallon to fill

that and the roads are terrible now

[stoic ledge]

Cheap

[quiet juniper]

just after winter.

[charred depot]

When its a dirt bike my friend is like yes you can try it with a list price deposit

[quiet juniper]

you get back and the paperwork is done "ty for the purchase"

[charred depot]

Best price, best price. I try bike yes

[quiet juniper]

bikes are scary in canada.

[charred depot]

Can you deliver to antartica

[quiet juniper]

mostly because roads suck ass.

gravel / sand everywhere

[charred depot]

Free motocross track

[quiet juniper]

especially on the highway..

anyway i got the stinger as fast as 210KM before i wussed out, because we don't have an autobahn.

[jovial mauve]

neither have we 😛

[quiet juniper]

don't want to go to jail for stunt driving.

i wish more countries over there could adopt it

because the roads are maintained well enough that it could work.

[crisp cedar]

Should I buy the jimny

[charred depot]

What about the mindset of the people

[quiet juniper]

it's europeans, not americans

[charred depot]

Heh

[quiet juniper]

you can't even get a turning signal from a guy here

if you're lucky they'll turn their lights on at night so you can see their fucking brakes.

[charred depot]

Guess the cc

[quiet juniper]

hm..

150?

[crisp cedar]

250

[charred depot]

49 : )

[quiet juniper]

damn she quick

[charred depot]

"Moped"

[quiet juniper]

nice car.

I'll show you a parking lot special

that poor spare

[charred depot]

When i used one of those i was doing a fwd burnout going into my drive

[quiet juniper]

lol my main car to drive around is a 2016 ford escape, the thing isn't impressive but you can fuck with it a lot in the snow lol

throw it in manual shifting and go around 1/2/3 through the parking lot

power slide across the whole thing lmao

[charred depot]

Peugeot 205 with winter tyres on the front only best snowmobile

[quiet juniper]

yeah mine is awd so it's mostly fishtails / slides it can pull.

still great fun

[charred depot]

The 205 was a tank obliterating every car

[crisp cedar]

My daily

[quiet juniper]

the stupid thing that i couldn't stop laughing at, the shitty little ecoboost turbo when you have a cold air on it, it's such a loud blowoff

[charred depot]

But people here buy suvs and only have summer tyres "why stuck"

[quiet juniper]

and if you shift it right in manual the fucking turbo whipples lmfao

for a ford escape.

[charred depot]

Stupid little french car has gone past me

[quiet juniper]

in canada basically it's all season mud + snow / winters.

[charred depot]

Considering all seasons for my 305 although i shouldnt really drive it in the salt

But i will

[quiet juniper]

lol i don't have winters yet for my vehicle, was lined up to purchase them this winter and the guy sold them to someone else when he promised me.

400buck for a set of 4 w/ sensors

[charred depot]

The 305 has winters on just they are like 25 years old

[quiet juniper]

oof, no weather cracking yet?

[charred depot]

Yeah they are cracked

[quiet juniper]

ah, gotta find a cheap set of matching tires eventually

[charred depot]

Its very narrow so not many options for part worns

[quiet juniper]

:/

[charred depot]

155 / 165 and 175 at a stretch

[quiet juniper]

the escape has stupid ass tires, 245/r19

slim but not slim?

yeah that

[charred depot]

No power steering so have to keep it sane

Or get stronk

[quiet juniper]

it's a workout to drive

2 in 1

get jacked on the way to wherever

[stoic ledge]

PremiumContact

[jovial mauve]

i need new tires as well i think

[chilly hatch]

Sick

I pull up to school and I see these kids doing donuts in their miata 💀

[stiff burrow]

lol

[chilly hatch]

I wish I could drive:/

1 more yr

[vocal mural]

Continental, I have it on my bike

ContactSpeed 32-622

My former Vredestein tires definitely needed replacement

It was over 25 years old

[charred depot]

Used to burn through bike tyres. Gotta bomb into a corner and use the rear brake only

[bitter compass]

If it isn't a manta i hate it ~ daily dose of opel hate

[stoic ledge]

[bitter compass]

Now im gonna have two doses of opel hate today

Because i have to see that stupid meriva every day

[jovial mauve]

opel insignia OPC

[bitter compass]

One question i do have

How does Vauxhall call the adam

Because it wouldn't make sense to call it adam as Vauxhall

[stoic ledge]

Very nice 👌

[stoic ledge]

Same, as we own one

I think it's great xD

[stoic ledge]

Still the Adam

The Karl was named differently tho

Vauxhall Viva

[jovial mauve]

https://marinusautos.nl/voertuig/opel-insignia-2-8-t-325pk-opc-4x4/

[stoic ledge]

Yeah that one has been for sale for quite some time

[jovial mauve]

yes

not a bad dealer tho

[bitter compass]

I correct myself i saw an opel agila

Frick that one even more

[stoic ledge]

Ah

Basically a Suzuki

Here we are again, just turned the engine off I'll probably be sitting here for a while

[jovial mauve]

You 2 i see

[stoic ledge]

So we now did a few km at ~30km/h

And now we're completely standing still again

Hmmm an ambulance just passed

[jovial mauve]

okay yeah im home \

what highway you on?

[stoic ledge]

E314

So from Belgium

But there are roadworks now

But that's one of the main roads for Belgium -> NL -> Germany

[charred depot]

fuck yes the saabs radiator is cracked

"omg hgf" anxiety over

was pumping up someones tyre idling for a long time like, why is car.. peeing

garden enjoyer

[lone fern]

Any opinions on buying a 2004 bmw 325xi with 150,000 miles on it?

in terms of reliability, cost to own etc

It’s for sale for 4,200usd

would it even be a good buy?

[charred depot]

could be good, could be terrible

if it has lots of bills for work done that would be a good sign

[lone fern]

new tires, plugs, waiting on service records

[charred depot]

id want to be seeing quite a list of work done

[lone fern]

Yea. I’ll post when I find out

[charred depot]

maybe $4200 is the cheap end over there for that mileage but to me its quite alot

[lone fern]

yea it’s pretty cheap for over here. It has a dent on the fender, so I would like to try to get a cheaper price for it

I am going to get it pre-purchase inspected to make sure I won’t be paykng out the ears for it, but was just wondering if it would be decent

it’s got a 5spd manual

[charred depot]

I guess a rwd one rather than awd would be a bit quicker and more fun if thats something you think of

[lone fern]

yea, i’d probably prefer awd tho bc we get a lot of snow here

but ye rwd would be more fun

[lone fern]

got some pics of it, seems to have a little bit of paint issues and the bumper is a bit messed up

[civic spoke]

That reminds me that I need to sell my old rims.

Same style as that one.

[jovial mauve]

@stoic ledge S7 with 163k on it would you dear it?

first owner

[stoic ledge]

First owner, original Dutch car, with all maintenance records? Yes, then I might

[jovial mauve]

not a dutch car

but 6 months warranty from the garage iirc

[stoic ledge]

How can they prove it's first owner then?

[jovial mauve]

i mean in NL obv

imported 2019

now for sale 1st owner

3 years pretty long

[spare jungle]

astra kinda nice

[chilly hatch]

daily dose of dodge hate: their vans are so low quality every small bump whole fram rattles and souinds rlly sketchy

[lone fern]

its bad

fam used to have an old 08 dodge grand caravan, a 2012 grand caravan, and now have a 2016 town and country, and they all suck

all dogshit

[chilly hatch]

FR

i carpool with my friends to get home and when we go over a bump the whole car frame rattles and shakes almost like its gonna brake

[tropic mulch]

🇺🇸

[chilly hatch]

faster than thrust ssc

[flint sable]

love the boat style awning

[tropic mulch]

real florida man shit

[chilly hatch]

fr

[deep zealot]

Interior appreciation

Cost depreciation

[wraith rivet]

Were you actually there or is this from the Cleetus video?

[wraith rivet]

The floor mats.. plz vacuum

[deep zealot]

Yeah they’re dusty af

[tropic mulch]

cleetus video

[wraith rivet]

nice

[frank knot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704064859817639992/976308485694296124/IMG_1269.mp4

Literal ricer car

[civic girder]

poor engine :(

[stable arch]

Bruhh why tho xd

[idle birch]

I mean they're better than corsa's i guess

[spare jungle]

that's fax

[idle birch]

I really like shitboxes

[stoic ledge]

Oi don't hate on my Corsa

[idle birch]

im gonna

corsa's are proper smelly

[stoic ledge]

[idle birch]

my cars no better tho

the vxr is acceptable i guess

[stoic ledge]

1.2 on LPG is the best version

[idle birch]

i wanna get a renault clio mk2

they're surprisingly good modding platforms

they look so stupid, i love it

[stoic ledge]

Oof Phase 1

My brother had a Mk2 Phase 2

Quite fun, 1.6 16v but was <950kg

[idle birch]

im pretty sure that body kit fits on any mk2 variant atleast

im not fussed what mk2 i get, aslong as its not full of rust

idm a small project, they're cheap on insurance and can be pretty quick

i love them lol

[chilly hatch]

Omfg I hate dodge cars, fricken fram feels like plastic and is as unstable as a building during a hurricane

[jovial mauve]

i dont like american cars in general haha

[lone fern]

so i am not buying the bmw, there’s no service records or nothing other than the receipt for new plugs and the tires

i only continue buying american cars bc they’re cheap to fix in the US, and junkyards are filled with them

and japanese cars

[idle birch]

BMW's are shit anyway

[jovial mauve]

nah they are not

not all of them

[wispy cloak]

Not a car but I brought my fs70r in for service and got an fs90 as a loaner

[deep zealot]

Huge cap lol

[deep zealot]

my experience exactly

they’re heavy as boats and unstable as hell

[chilly hatch]

fr

excpet idk how to drive

[deep zealot]

they market the hellcat charger as the “most powerful sedan” in the world

[jovial mauve]

@stoic ledge

[deep zealot]

the charger had its ass handed to it by an M5CS

even with the M5 in RWD only

[chilly hatch]

ok\

[stoic ledge]

I'm already home

They were finished, no traffic jam

The new asphalt is very smooth for Belgium

Nice surface to do 150km/h on

[chilly hatch]

Nice

our rx 350 is acc so nice

heated massage seats and shi

[lone fern]

lmao yea

i drive a ford

it works fine

[deep zealot]

i drive a BMW

works fine

[jovial mauve]

no its shit duh

[civic spoke]

I drive a BMW. It works fine.

[deep zealot]

over the 200K miles my family and I have driven BMWs we’ve had literally one major issue

which was fixed for free

[idle birch]

nah man they suck

overpriced and boring

although i do like the older m3

they look great modified

[deep zealot]

overpriced and boring

i can build a 600hp 335i for under $25K

in fact that’s exactly what i’m doing this summer

[lone fern]

in the us or not?

[deep zealot]

US

[lone fern]

intresting

[charred depot]

$25k overpriced :^)

[lone fern]

I want to sort of avoid them unless they’re older because the new ones have electrical problems n shit

[deep zealot]

idk what you consider new

[lone fern]

like 2010 above

[deep zealot]

but i’ve driven E90 and F30 328i and they’re both very reliable if you treat them well

[lone fern]

i buy cars around the 2008 and under

because they’re cheap

[charred depot]

Get an E60 :^)

[deep zealot]

now that’s not a good idea lol

[lone fern]

and i mean my budget is like 5k and under

[idle birch]

bmw's are just meh, id be so much more impressed to see a fiesta with 600hp 😂 idek if thats possible

[lone fern]

i don’t need a fancy ass car as a 16 yr old

i just drive a horribly underpowered truck that i got for 1.3k

[deep zealot]

because it’s harder to build a fiesta than a BMW lmao

you’d need to rebuild the block and everything

[charred depot]

Saab 600hp ezpz

[idle birch]

saab's are sick

[deep zealot]

You can pick up an N54 for $10K around here and mod it to 750 hp on stock block

[charred depot]

B204 great for cheap power

[idle birch]

if i could afford the insurance id get a miata ngl

[lone fern]

is it really that much higher?

[idle birch]

what? the insurance?

[lone fern]

ye

[idle birch]

i imagine itd be near 2k for me

maybe 1500

[lone fern]

jeez

[idle birch]

id have to check

[lone fern]

when my truck got added it was 98$ for liability

[idle birch]

my first car is a 1.2 non turbo and it was 1100

[lone fern]

no damage protection

ohhh ok

[idle birch]

but it should be cheaper for my next car

now ive been driving for a while

[lone fern]

i assume that prices vary wildly outside the US

[idle birch]

UK car insurance sucks

[lone fern]

ahh ok that explains it

damn that’s a lot of money

[idle birch]

yeah it is

its why my next cars probably gonna be a renault clio

luckily theyre decent for modifying atleast

[lone fern]

mmm ok

yea good luck with the insurance

the us got cheaper car insurance but everybody drives like drunkards here

[idle birch]

yeah thats fair

i kinda wanna see if i can fit a twin turbo in a clio

its pointless cause its only a 1.6

[lone fern]

ehh gas milage improvement maybe

[idle birch]

i wanna make it faster

tbh if im making it faster id need proper good quality break calipers for a start

better airfilter, replace the bonnet for a carbon fibre one to reduce weight

[stoic ledge]

Clio II Phase 2 with sports exhaust

It was also lowered, and had an K&N open air filter. Not sure if that actually made it better, but hey it's something

[idle birch]

sports exhaust

[stoic ledge]

Actually was quite nippy, also cornered quite nice. Ofc light AF

[idle birch]

yeah thats kinda why i want it

[stoic ledge]

Remus iirc

[idle birch]

if i could afford the insurance id get a golf

but i saw a mk2 clio with a body kit and i was like bruh

i need it

it looks kinda goofy, but yes

as long as its faster than my current car idc lol

[stoic ledge]

Winter wheels but from the front

[idle birch]

has that got upgraded headlights?

[stoic ledge]

It was basically a fully loaded one, Dynamique Luxe

Xenon yes

[idle birch]

yeah i thought so

i wanna get tinted ones

[charred depot]

euch

candle status much more beautiful

[idle birch]

@stoic ledge do you think i could put air suspension on one 😳

I feel like it'd cost more than its worth doing it

[stoic ledge]

You probably could

[charred depot]

Aftermarket air suspension outside of niche applications is pretty much worth nothing heh. Its worth is purely the owners enjoyment

[stoic ledge]

This one had coilovers

[idle birch]

originally i was thinking of just shorter springs, but air suspensions would be more practical

I have no idea what im doing tho so it could go horrifically wrong

[charred depot]

you can do sane function lowering

[stoic ledge]

Also rear disc brakes, idk if that's factory of aftermarket on a 1.6 16v

[idle birch]

might turn myself into mince meat with the air tank

id wanna replace all the brakes with disks tbh

ik the upgrades i want are full good quality disks, a twin turbo and lowering of some sort

and a body kit

[charred depot]

:^ |

[idle birch]

maybe a carbon fibre bonnet if im feeling fancy

fitting a twin turbos gonna be a pain tho

[tropic mulch]

i want it

[timber oar]

Just added my bike to insurance for 13 usd/mo :P

[vocal mural]

@burnt solstice John Frost bridge Will be renovated for a long time

[chilly hatch]

i drive

a bicycle 🙂

[eager grove]

Just saw my first Model Y in the UK

bonkers it took ~3 years to make it over

[chilly hatch]

really?

i see them everywhere in canada

[viral matrix]

[eager grove]

If you had to get a £2000-£3500 car that had the following characteristics:

• at least, say, 120HP, or like, 0-60 in under 10 seconds
• a hatchback
• parking sensors
• can fit rear facing car seats in the back

what would you get

[flat whale]

That is the coolest thing I’ve seen today

[jovial mauve]

renault laguna perhaps

Citroen C5

audi a3 1.8

[tropic mulch]

that feeling when someone cuts in line at the drivethrough and just roll up their window when the guy they're cutting yells at them

[chilly hatch]

how hard is a driving test?

like in general

im taking mines soon

everyone says its decently hard

[tribal heron]

What country

[final eagle]

wellll

in the u.s they kinda just hand em out for free nowadays...

[dusk ocean]

I took my drivers test in PA in a Ford E150 conversion van lol

[tribal heron]

It's very easy to get the license in the us

Yet some people still fail the test

[tribal heron]

You don't even have to be a great driver to pass tbh

And traffic enforcement just stopped existing (here in CO at least)

[chilly hatch]

canada

[tribal heron]

Ah idk then

[chilly hatch]

alr ima think its similar to us

im taking my drivers test in my dads car, lexus rx 350

[tribal heron]

I mean just follow the rules and follow common sense, you'll probably be fine

[chilly hatch]

yeah

[tribal heron]

Be deliberate and purposeful when looking around to ensure instructor sees you checking required things

Just to make sure they see you checking blind spots and all that

[chilly hatch]

ye

[timber oar]

Colorado?

[wispy cloak]

Only on Craigslist

[idle birch]

wat car

looks cool

[surreal ermine]

1989 Nissan 200sx

[idle birch]

hot

[chilly hatch]

yo i pulled up and i see a guy driving his porshe 💀

and like 3 teslas

[deep zealot]

whooo porsche based

tesla not so based

[chilly hatch]

also bro insurance is so expensive for teens

prolly cuz half of them are careless

[idle birch]

teslas are kinda mid

they look boring asf

[chilly hatch]

true but they are sleek

but we all know they are better than dodge minivan's

[tribal heron]

Yeah

[timber oar]

Hello then neighbor

Lol

[fathom socket]

Has anyone a solution for overhesting car in the city?

I have new radiator and oil is pretty much 5k km only highway driven and now I have to drive in cities

[wispy cloak]

You got room for an electric fan or two?

Also you burped the cooling system right?

[fathom socket]

if you mean purged all the air out, then yes.

I think there is some "blank" space, but IDK what's in there

[dense shard]

https://tenor.com/view/komi-gif-19268598

[chilly hatch]

yo popup headlights are sick

[deep zealot]

Komi is literally a miata

[chilly hatch]

💀 those memes

[dense shard]

Komi-san is cute

So are NA Miatas

[chilly hatch]

i agree with the miata statement

not teh comi thing 💀

[bitter compass]

Rip popup headlights :(

Stupid pedestrian safety

[rotund wren]

Ikr

Especially on the lambo diablo

[chilly hatch]

Ikr

Miatas are fr sick too

[viral matrix]

[charred depot]

new fine automobilen

[stoic ledge]

Nice

[charred depot]

was up to 90mph in the swaab today, such things I do not believe will be possible in little puggy

same engine as my 305

its XUD or nothin

165 / 70 R13 Pwopah

it will be nice having a small car again to dart around in, saab isnt that big but I do have to put more effort in than when I had the mazdang 2

[chilly hatch]

man why are there no peugeots in na

i rode in one

its a diff exepriecne

[charred depot]

I used to like spworts handling now I am about moderate waftage

thick tyres, cushy suspension. beautiful

[flint sable]

riveting!

[jovial mauve]

205 right? i think i have had one of those ass ''cross car''

[charred depot]

Yees

[jovial mauve]

nice

[jovial mauve]

X6m comp

X4*

[stoic ledge]

Yikes

[jovial mauve]

i mean

i would not buy it

but its pretty cool

0 100 4 sec

in a suv/crossover

[charred depot]

0 to 60mph in seconds at the next downhill

[stoic ledge]

Any Coupe crossover is 🤮

Just get the regular one if you desperately need a CUV/SUV

[charred depot]

Seating position to the moon

[jovial mauve]

nah i dont think all of them are that bad

but i would rather have the x5 m over the x4 x6

i think the Q8 looks quite nice, and that is also a crossover

[fathom socket]

:/

It seems I don't have enough cooling capacity

[stoic ledge]

:/

Must be something more going on

[stoic ledge]

Q8 is the least offensive Coupe CUV thingy yes

[jovial mauve]

glad we can agree on that

there is a rsQ8 at the company i work

all blacked out ofc

i dont understand why people are so afraid of color

[fossil imp]

yikes, head gasket

or rad/hose leak

[fathom socket]

it only overheats when it's 30c outside

[fossil imp]

it shouldnt at all

[fathom socket]

I had new radiator installed

[fossil imp]

something is up, get it checked n get a sniff test done

[fathom socket]

I don't have sense of smell

[fossil imp]

u cant check it from smell lol

for the HG

[fathom socket]

also the head gasket was fine last time I've checked

[fossil imp]

is there any milky gloop in the header tank cap?

regardless it shouldnt be getting that hot, it could be the thermostat sticking too

[fathom socket]

it's clean, no milky shake

[fossil imp]

coolant level ok?

[fathom socket]

turning on heat on max seems to help it cool it off

[fossil imp]

that definitely suggests HG

[fathom socket]

it's on max when I've checked it this morning

[fossil imp]

ive had a HG go with no sign of milk shake too

[fathom socket]

doesn't take any coolant, but it takes a little bit of oil. like I have to add oil after 2k km

[fossil imp]

yea thats normal coz its high mileage

[fathom socket]

it's funny because IDK how many km this actually has

[fossil imp]

wdym

its been clocked? or a different engine?

lol

[fathom socket]

for sure the odometer was tampered with, judging the cars history and where it came from

[fossil imp]

[fathom socket]

and I have a new radiator because the old one cracked

[fossil imp]

yea i recommend u get a sniff test done

[fathom socket]

my old car even trough the cylinder head went bad, it had the opposite effect

[stoic ledge]

Thermostat just failing?

[chilly hatch]

bro i stg my town is crash city

why did my message get deelted

[stoic ledge]

[golden rune]

what happend?

[stoic ledge]

Rain

[golden rune]

whaaaaat...

wheres that?

[stoic ledge]

But a crazy amount so the sewers couldn't cope

Belgium/The Netherlands

[golden rune]

but this much?

[stoic ledge]

Yup

[golden rune]

what do you drive?

[stoic ledge]

Opel Corsa 😎

Basically the black car on the left coming towards me, but in white

[golden rune]

is it like an old one or smth newer

and what engine😏

[stoic ledge]

Mines a 2012

1.2 on LPG Whopping 83hp

[chilly hatch]

lMFAO

[golden rune]

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA

[chilly hatch]

83hp? 💀 💀

[golden rune]

while overtaking, switch to gas for some exrra boost🤣😂😂🤣

[chilly hatch]

lmfao

[golden rune]

i drive a 2.0 diesel lovin the Nm

[jovial mauve]

83 is fine here

[chilly hatch]

i will soon drive my dads car, an lexus rx 350

[stoic ledge]

It's definitely doable, 99% of the drivers are sleeping anyway so often I'm still quickest at lights lol

[chilly hatch]

lmfao

[jovial mauve]

haha

[golden rune]

sure, but on the highway its shit

[jovial mauve]

i think avarge HP here is 71/75

[chilly hatch]

are suvs easier to do the driving test or sedans'

[stoic ledge]

Also perfectly fine for cruising at 130-150km/h

[jovial mauve]

not really you can only go 100

[stoic ledge]

Not if you anticipate and keep momentum

[chilly hatch]

bro idfk why but the speed limit is 100 here

its acc so slow

[golden rune]

i have a volvo v50 2.0 diesel

[stoic ledge]

[golden rune]

its a best cruiser on the highway

6 speed manual

[chilly hatch]

sheesh

[golden rune]

lovw banging gears

[chilly hatch]

i love stick shift cars but automatic cars are the most popular here

[golden rune]

but it gets about 9.5l/100km of fuel consumption in the city and 7 on the highway

[stoic ledge]

Wait what

How

[golden rune]

let me guess, USA?

[chilly hatch]

canada

[stoic ledge]

My brother has a V40 2.0D, gets 5L/100km

[golden rune]

yeah....but my right foot is kind of heavy 🤣😂😂🤣

[chilly hatch]

my dad has a lexus rx 350 with a automatic transmission, i wish it was manual thio

[golden rune]

what engine is in that?

[chilly hatch]

not ure

i think a v6

[stoic ledge]

But yeah don't hate on me, this thing already costs me €700/year in tax, and this one runs on LPG because petrol is basically 3x as expensive and 11USD/gallon

So as a student, I made the smart decision 😎

[chilly hatch]

I drove that car in a parking lot

[golden rune]

probably a hybrid too?

[chilly hatch]

its a 2012 model

its gas sadly 😐

but off line start is acc pretty good

295 hp

[golden rune]

in Croatia, my country, lpg is like 2 times cheaper but there is no point in putting lpg in a diesel

[golden rune]

its a good thing its not a hybrid

[stoic ledge]

Yeah wouldn't try putting LPG in a diesel

[chilly hatch]

the hybrid version was 20k more

[golden rune]

OOOFFF THATS CRAZY

[chilly hatch]

💀

[stoic ledge]

This is a factory Bi-Fuel car 😎

[jovial mauve]

i like MK how we are like the pole opposites

[golden rune]

basically a hybrid, it can run on 2 fuels

[stoic ledge]

Hybrid is cheaper here than the Hybrid so they don't sell the gas only version here of any Lexus (emissions tax)

[chilly hatch]

there is a standard transmission option in the car but its one of those fake maual cars there is no clutch

[golden rune]

wtf is that?

like a dsg?

[stoic ledge]

The difference: you have a job, I'm still in uni

😎

[golden rune]

flappy paddle gearbox

[chilly hatch]

i'm getting my drivers license in december 😦

G1

[stoic ledge]

Don't those Lexus have CVT's which mimic gears

G6

Idk

[golden rune]

whats that?

[stoic ledge]

Exactly

[chilly hatch]

i acc dunno

[stoic ledge]

Probably similar to B in Europe

[golden rune]

oh shooot....dont like those

[chilly hatch]

basically the beginner license in canada

then it goes G2

[stoic ledge]

Ah not a CVT then

[chilly hatch]

Then ur full license is G

[golden rune]

and what can you drivr with a g1?

[chilly hatch]

ye there is a S mode on the gear shifter that when you push down it changes one gear

[chilly hatch]

u can dirve everywhere but the 401 and highways

[jovial mauve]

i know it was nto a diss or anything 😛

[stoic ledge]

Hehe hitting the probably get censored if I say it-spot

[chilly hatch]

and u need someone with 4yrs of driving experience in passegner seat

[stoic ledge]

I know 🙃

[golden rune]

thats kind of stupid but okay i get it

we have a B category

[stoic ledge]

AM + B gang

[chilly hatch]

when you turn 17 then you can ge g2, drive everywhere but at night

[golden rune]

and you can pass that when you are 18 Nd drive it

[stoic ledge]

Sadly no T

[golden rune]

and G is for tractors🤣😂😂🤣🤣

i think

[jovial mauve]

the thing i like the most about ''fast'' cars is when you try to overtake folks on the highway and it is maybe to tight you will always make it

but other then that with how busy the roads are here

[stoic ledge]

It's T here but might be different elsewhere

[jovial mauve]

110 it is

[chilly hatch]

when my dad overtakes ppl on th high way the engine revvs to like 4 or 5