cars

[charred depot]

passenger enjoyed attacking the glovebox

[jovial mauve]

yeah iknoiknow

looks very cold

[stoic ledge]

Nope the previous owner, woman so handbags probably

I think it'll clean out mostly

[jovial mauve]

ahhh its missing the sport package

[stoic ledge]

It's Sport Line

[prime valve]

Why is a 1 series so expensive

[jovial mauve]

i never udnerstood why folks dont order that

[stoic ledge]

But not M-Sport

[jovial mauve]

^what i meant

[stoic ledge]

I know

Just clarifying

[jovial mauve]

if you get the M pack you get like more contrast i think, like stiching etc somo logos

now it is super black and grey

[stoic ledge]

You'd get Alcantara seats

This is actually s gray interior

And upgraded from base

Also has the sport seats

With leg extenders

[jovial mauve]

really? they look lik they are half leather?

[stoic ledge]

Yes they are

[serene dagger]

yes I know I should treat her better

[prime valve]

stinger ?

[serene dagger]

yea

[prime valve]

sports one ?

[serene dagger]

yup

think so atleast

[stoic ledge]

It does have the upgraded sat nav and digital gauges tho which is nice

[serene dagger]

wait can someone dox using plates?

[stoic ledge]

Dox?

[jovial mauve]

i like it but i have had mixed experiences haha

[serene dagger]

yeah

[jovial mauve]

i drove my friends m340i last weekend

goddayum

[prime valve]

no but someone can call the cops

[jovial mauve]

i might get a bimmer next xD

[stoic ledge]

The base ones are also digital but uglier so this is better xD

[jovial mauve]

True

[stoic ledge]

Want to buy my 1er

[jovial mauve]

haha no

[prime valve]

140i crazy car

[jovial mauve]

if it was a faster one perhaps

[stoic ledge]

Yeah it's a 118iA

So 1.5 I3 Turbo

141hp

7DCT tho

[jovial mauve]

yah dont want to sound like a knob, but when you get used to ''fast'' cars its hard going back

even tho 141hp is fine for NL

[charred depot]

if you search one of my plates it comes up under the "art of shedding" : (

its noooot a shed plsbro

[stoic ledge]

This one was delivered by a Dutch dealer but then registered in Belgium

Never registered in NL

[jovial mauve]

if i would get a bimmer now would be older gen M5 or newer gen 540i

[stoic ledge]

[jovial mauve]

i really really like the 540i

[stoic ledge]

I'd get the RWD 1er but I don't fit in that either

[jovial mauve]

i need to get a few more years of no dmg tho, bc insurance is insane

i'm willing to pay for nice car but not like 450 per month of only insurance

[prime valve]

Was thinking of getting a 1 series

[stoic ledge]

It's stupid how I fit in a Corsa but not in a BMW

[prime valve]

but now it seems like a bad idea

[jovial mauve]

yeah

[charred depot]

get a E46 touring : )

[jovial mauve]

2nd hand markt is insane

[prime valve]

isnt the corsa taller ?

[stoic ledge]

Idk maybe your experience is different

[stoic ledge]

Yeah but it's mostly about the width

[jovial mauve]

my brother wanted a e46 glas i got him talked out of that

[stoic ledge]

Headroom was fine

[prime valve]

newer cars seem to get smaller

[charred depot]

id like to see you in a chevette

[stoic ledge]

I was hitting the door and B-pillar

[prime valve]

typical tall person moment

Golf has good leg room

[stoic ledge]

My brother has a Volvo V40, roughly the same size as the 1er. Feels way more spacious in the front

Anyway, bought it, now importing it, and then flipping it

[serene dagger]

bizness

[stoic ledge]

Flipping cars more expensive than my own car

[charred depot]

buy the blue chevette, big car tonnes of room : )

[stoic ledge]

Like 4x as expensive

[jovial mauve]

we have been doing that for a while

the a class is almost finished

waiting for the plates and then selling it

[stoic ledge]

Rust = Infinite space

[charred depot]

its had like £500 of sheet metal put into it

[stoic ledge]

[charred depot]

the stuff we use is generally thicker so its probably a bit heavier than factory

[stoic ledge]

Panzer

[charred depot]

light armour chevette

[tropic mulch]

Tankiata

[jovial mauve]

i need to get a miata tbh

but they are to expensive now

[tropic mulch]

most fun i've ever had in a car

[stoic ledge]

Oh I just remember: the BMW still has a warranty

Trim is coming loose, they gotta fix it for me

[jovial mauve]

dayum allready?

[stoic ledge]

Probably literally double sided tape, but they can do it

[jovial mauve]

whats the KM's on it?

[stoic ledge]

Quite high: 120k But 99% highway driving

[jovial mauve]

120k is not bad but 2020 yeah it got used 😛

[stoic ledge]

Shouldn't matter for a piece of trim tho

Yeah no it's mechanically in great condition

[jovial mauve]

a co worker bought a 2.0 a7 with 287k km's from germany

''it is using alot of oil''

[stoic ledge]

Also no rattles or anything

[jovial mauve]

no shit 😛

[stoic ledge]

No oil usage, no leaks

[prime valve]

was the oil changed ?

[jovial mauve]

i change my oil every 6500 km's

[stoic ledge]

Transmission wants new oil tho

[stoic ledge]

Last time at 107k km iirc

[jovial mauve]

tbh new cars have their intervals waaaaay to optemisticly planned

[stoic ledge]

It says next oil change at 137k or 12-2023

Yeah this has been driven on the optimistic cycle

[prime valve]

Swedish cars seems to not have their oil changed

every 20 - 30 k km

[stoic ledge]

Yeah this car has a 2 year or 30k km interval

[prime valve]

Dont think that its good for the car

[stoic ledge]

But ngl I'm not going to bother with any of that. New transmission oil, new grill, nice paint polish and off she goes

[prime valve]

I mean its a flip

[jovial mauve]

MK are you interested in another car?

friend is selling his s4 soon i think

its has like 67k km;s

[prime valve]

s4 b5 ?

[stoic ledge]

Oof yeah no can't afford to run/maintain/insure/... That

I wasn't even planning on buying this

[jovial mauve]

idk it is a 2012 2013 one

[stoic ledge]

https://c.tenor.com/vbD-reOsKf4AAAAM/spongebob-patrick.gif

[prime valve]

b7

[jovial mauve]

i think insurance is not that bad tbh but yeah

they need love

[prime valve]

Cant find a LHD nice s4 B5

[jovial mauve]

B8 actually

[prime valve]

yeah

[stoic ledge]

I'll keep dailying the Corsa probably, LPG is cheap to run xD

[prime valve]

nice car

[jovial mauve]

its not this one but same spec almost

[stoic ledge]

If I did fit in the BMW I might've kept it

[prime valve]

pretty nice

[jovial mauve]

yeah it is a cool car

[stoic ledge]

Dayum that Atos in the back

[jovial mauve]

hahaha

it has the same engine i have in my a6

one of the best audi has build

[stoic ledge]

The Atos? Definitely

[jovial mauve]

apperently

[stoic ledge]

[jovial mauve]

xD

[prime valve]

Audi aint building new engines

[stiff burrow]

Bruh

[prime valve]

just improving

seems like cap

Merican prices

[stoic ledge]

Cheap fuel ^

[stiff burrow]

What car is this?

[jovial mauve]

maybe i can get my brother to buy the s4 so we can be audi bro's

lmao

[stiff burrow]

This is the most expensive tank I’ve ever bought

So

[stoic ledge]

This one

[jovial mauve]

sure if you make the sale add send it to me

[stiff burrow]

Oh I didn’t see that

[jovial mauve]

ill send it to my friends

[stiff burrow]

Knew it was a bmw tho

Kek

[stoic ledge]

Yeah gotta get the plates for it first and detailed, and the transmission serviced

[stiff burrow]

Is it yours?

[stoic ledge]

Luckily the BMW dealer is 2 blocks from the hangar where it's stored, and the RDW station is just 5km away

[stoic ledge]

I bought it to flip

[stiff burrow]

Oh nice

[stoic ledge]

Too cheap, couldn't resist

[jovial mauve]

next month im going to drive on of the hottest EV's to date

company car of my friend

[stiff burrow]

Ooh

[stoic ledge]

But it's too narrow for me, I can't properly fit in it. Otherwise I might've kept it

[stoic ledge]

Lucid Air

[jovial mauve]

he had free choice and he choose the mustang mach E

https://tenor.com/view/seriously-gif-23861497

[stoic ledge]

[jovial mauve]

we went to the dealer to look at it

[stoic ledge]

BMW i4 wasn't an option? xD

[stiff burrow]

Those are nice

[jovial mauve]

i really dont like it 😛

but his car his choice

[stiff burrow]

Idc what mustang purists say

[stoic ledge]

I don't like the rear

[prime valve]

mach E looks pretty nice

[jovial mauve]

the interior the rear the sides the front

it looks obese

interior looks like china numba 1

[prime valve]

Sir you mean thicc ?

[stoic ledge]

It's the smallest hatchback

[jovial mauve]

ah yes im sorry 😛

[stoic ledge]

Basically a 2 Gran Coupe, but hatchback

[stiff burrow]

Man I love spring time. It makes driving so nice

[stoic ledge]

[stiff burrow]

Oh neat

[prime valve]

I looks like a 2 series

[stoic ledge]

That colour isn't helping

xD

[jovial mauve]

i like the ev6 way more in terms of looks

yeah he wants yellow blue or red

i said none

invisible :p

[stoic ledge]

OOF it's 2AM, uhm gotta get some sleep

[jovial mauve]

if i had to pick of those 3

[stoic ledge]

See y'all later

[jovial mauve]

red

[stoic ledge]

[jovial mauve]

yeah same

work in 5,45 hours

[prime valve]

adios

[jovial mauve]

cya

[stoic ledge]

Auf Wiedersehen

[stiff burrow]

It’s 8:00 PM for me

Lol

[tropic mulch]

such an odd turbo placement

and if anyone is curious, the radiator was moved to the rear

[copper oyster]

And the filt is probably low af box below front passenger?

Don't knick it :p

Dude I'd be scared to sit in that

Power to mass ratio over 69001

[iron monolith]

turbo is a turbo

[wide hemlock]

here's my volvo

Ive used it for autocross and stuff

has some mods on it

has an hks blow off valve and makes fun noises

rn the project is to put brake calipers off a mitsubishi evo 3 on it

[tropic mulch]

it's just weird placement, the hot side piping is right underneath the cold intercooler feed, it's just gonna be heating up that cold air

[iron monolith]

oh

[tropic mulch]

this is the airflow with red being the hot exhaust piping, blue the cold intake

also the blowoff valve is going to be venting right into the intake

[iron monolith]

are you building like a shell for the car or just straightup just supports

[tropic mulch]

nah it's a youtuber's competition drift car

[iron monolith]

ohh

[tropic mulch]

he's upgrading from the LS miata he's been using the past few years to a corvette

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG6lUOkRbs8

[iron monolith]

oh lucky

half a mil subs woa

[tropic mulch]

his content is a bit dry, but he's super informative

[iron monolith]

that's normal for some yts

chrisfix doesn't post that much

[dense sentinel]

Back on the N54 thing, Burger Motorsport charge $200 AUD for their dual cone intake. Literally went to autobarn (local automotive shop) and bought 2 pod filters and 2.5” to 3” adapters and put them in. Total cost was $55

[jovial mauve]

@stoic ledge what do you want for the bimmer?

[fathom socket]

That doesn't loon healthy

Also

I bet that took so much effort do do it

[civic spoke]

Why tho

[fathom socket]

because I think think it give the seller some income

[stoic ledge]

What are you offering?

And in what condition? 😛

[jovial mauve]

if you fix it all like you said

im not offering shit 😛

just let me know how much you want

[stoic ledge]

AH yeah gotta see, I'm probably going to list it for ~24k-25k? Gives me some nice negotiation space

[jovial mauve]

hmm i think that is a little steep

but if you find someone that wants to pay like 22k i would do it

[stoic ledge]

Yeah but that gets negotiation room

Because if I put it as 22k

People try to get it for 20k

So ~22(.5)k is what I'm aiming for

[jovial mauve]

yeah i understand

they are weirdly priced

if you look for 20k there is one for sale

then at 25 they all have like 20k km's

[stoic ledge]

Is there Haven't spotted that one

And I've looked everywhere

Even the cheapest one in Germany is 20k

And that also had 150k km, and less equipment

I also saw an import with just 15k km... but only €900 BPM That can't be right either

[deep zealot]

Nice man, how long did the install take and how hard was it?

I hear that top intake is tough to get in

Anyway let’s take a moment to appreciate how good Supras look

The wing just completed the look

[jovial mauve]

i lied

25k there is one

https://www.autoscout24.nl/aanbod/bmw-118-i-high-executive-sfeerlicht-automaat-boekjes-benzine-wit-70e70944-36a6-4e85-9302-b8fe6d024714?sort=price&desc=1&lastSeenGuidPresent=true&cldtsrc=listPage&cldtidx=1&search_id=20ycqxtt42v&source=listpage_search-results

[stoic ledge]

Yeah I saw that

"High Executive"

Single zone climate control, not the virtual cockpit (so also the smaller infotainment screen). No air vents in the rear

Does have heated seats tho

[jovial mauve]

looool

and ambience light

[stoic ledge]

Ngl idk if mine has it

Haven't driven it in the dark

And it's now in storage

xD

[deep zealot]

Until they added RGB in the cars i didn’t even notice the ambient lighting in my F30

[stoic ledge]

[stiff burrow]

I didn’t know they made modern BMWs with single zone climate control

I just looked on the website, you can get an X1 with no heated seats

Strange for a luxury brand

[jovial mauve]

my a6 has no heated seats

[bitter compass]

I don't like heated seats 👀

Cooled seats are sick

[jovial mauve]

i dont mind them but also dont need them

cooled seats >>>>>>> Heated seats all day

[bitter compass]

But cooled seats only in luxury cars 👀

[fathom socket]

I have "heated" seats

They get so warm, you can feel it burning

At least that happened to the driver side

[bitter compass]

I have blank buttons where heated seats should be

[stoic ledge]

pReMiUm German cars = everything is optional

😛

I don't even have a blank in the Corsa, they used a different button panel with heated seats 😎 (Blank is there is the car has Start/Sport or traction control disable button)

BMW has a blank but nicely integrated

I also don't like heated seats btw

But cooled seats, yes pls

[charred depot]

My Dad might be getting given an electric car from his work

probably fed up of him collecting customers in a heap

[stiff burrow]

i like heated seats and cooled seats. i need both :p

[stiff burrow]

doesn't it get cold in the winter in europe? you guys are north of us lol

yeah, there's the gulf stream. but it shouldn't make that much of a difference

[charred depot]

the cold is nice

I have considered adding a electric heater ahead of my blower motor to aid with defogging in the morning

[stiff burrow]

depends what you define as cold

[charred depot]

not freezing so 0 to 10C

[stiff burrow]

oh

[charred depot]

prefer freezing over 18C+

[stiff burrow]

10 c is just chilly

15-32f is cold for me

so -10 to 0C

[charred depot]

thats what id call freezing

much happier in freezing temperatures than above 18C, cant stand being warm

freezing is bad though because my council lob tonnes of car dissolvent down anytime it gets close to freezing

my arches were mint until it met fife council : (

[stiff burrow]

my ideal temperature is 25c

for being outside

[charred depot]

💀

[stiff burrow]

lol

[charred depot]

that is like beyond heatwave I am cooking

[stiff burrow]

we had a heat wave a few years ago, it was in the 90s every day

[charred depot]

just nah

[stiff burrow]

32-38 c

[stiff burrow]

oh nice, do you know which car?

[charred depot]

I think it will be a choice between stuff around the price range of a nissan leaf

he wont care though aslong as its less money than hes spending now, mega cheapskate

[fathom socket]

https://www.reddit.com/r/redneckengineering/comments/uo4t2t/its_a_toyota/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

man

[stoic ledge]

Cloth seats are never cold

[civic spoke]

Cloth seats. Best seats.

[stoic ledge]

Exactly

[charred depot]

I h8 french car suspension

[dry pine]

new crv?

[stoic ledge]

HRV I think

[civic spoke]

Yeah. It's the HR-V.

[bitter compass]

They should lower it 👀

[bitter compass]

And hell yeah fuck all this leather bs

[civic spoke]

Though. The best seat might just be wool.

[bitter compass]

Idk what people want with leather seats but have they ever driven a car in summer afterbit was parked outside

[charred depot]

Marking its territory

[fathom socket]

what the hecc happened here?

[civic spoke]

I'm trying to ask the same question. That's a bulk transporter...

I'm guessing that it was overfilled and blew up?

[fathom socket]

I'm going to work with dry bulk tankers

and they told me to look up about them

[civic spoke]

Yeah. It was a bulk transporter as I thought.

[charred depot]

Free atlast

[fathom socket]

How long even is that road train!

[civic spoke]

I'd say 25.25 meters?

[obsidian magnet]

New toy

[copper oyster]

Have you ever steered one of those into your leg on purpose?

Hurts like hell (the one you have in the vid is way beyond the point I'm talking about... from the looks of it)

It's your own damn fault; you knew already that it would cause a decent amount of pain; you did it anyways just to see exactly how much pain that power can cause with that mass

Plus it usually climbs your shoe and hits your shin

[dense shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZOuz_laH9I

[copper oyster]

You gotta get the right version cable to have enough teracoulombs/s bandwidth

if you don't have good enough cable plugged in to station, it will glow red to indicate the error

There's a beep code too but it comes from smoke detector spkr

Ironically, any place that has a shot at supporting everybody switching to teslas most definitely doesn't use exclusively wind/solar and all those other "green renewable sources" as decided for some reason

If the block you're at has enough power to have people charging their ev in 10 min simultaneously as many as you'd have pumping gas in every gas station there...

yeah, your tesla was powered by nuclear, coal, at best hydro I guess

[dense shard]

I don't own a Tesla.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

And my plan is to use an EV as a commuter. I travel maybe 100 miles a week. And I'm including just messing around town after work.

My legacy powered car is sticking around for the long run.

[copper oyster]

Well I mean what else is there other than tesla that's full ev

because at this rate, it probably has to be full ev in order to take any significant problems off one's shoulder

[dense shard]

You can make EV and ICE products.

Nissan has been doing it.

Ford, GM, VW, soon Toyota, Kia/Hyundai are all doing it.

[copper oyster]

Sure there's that prius supposedly optimal strategy where you lease them for two years and end up with probably cheapest insurance you'd ever have, save some of the largest quantities of gas and (best part imo) trade in a toyota within 2 years which means it won't have time to even get that signature screeching belt issue lol

[dense shard]

Along with Mercedes, BMW, and half of China.

[copper oyster]

Is it cheaper than tesla and can you lease it?

[dense shard]

Yes?

You can get a base Leaf for under 25k.

[copper oyster]

Tbh base nissan might be still more useful than full stock tesla

My buddy took me on a first ride in a tesla only a few months ago

[dense shard]

I need a commuter. If I wanted to go 300 miles on a charge I'd get a Hyundai or Ford at this point.

[copper oyster]

The entire dash instruments, all middle console controls are replaced with a single fkn ipad

[dense shard]

I'm aware.

And I've voiced my concerns on that control scheme in a dozen places and at least a dozen times here.

[copper oyster]

I wasn't. Tbh I'd never really cared at all to even consider it in the first place

[dense shard]

I mean... trying using your phone on a bumpy road.

Now imagine reaching across a large space, and trying to tap a thing while driving... in the rain, at night.

Congrats, you're trying to turn the wipers on at night.

[copper oyster]

Expensive, gas wasn't even an issue to the current extent, worst of all it drives itself and such

[dense shard]

Literally every single other automaker will have a control stalk with wiper controls. Usually on the left.

Oh no, windows fogging up. Hit that defrost button. Not a menu item, a physical hardware button.

... Looking at you Germany and now Subaru.

[copper oyster]

Well if the nav and other stuff I require is more practical and useful as my mobile device (phone, tab, whatever), I'll use the car one

[dense shard]

Do you really want to pay a subscription fee to use those features tho?

[copper oyster]

If I opt out (usually the case), simply one of those mounts to somewhere in the center and put the phone on it

[dense shard]

Imagine needing to go through a menu to adjust the air vents.

[copper oyster]

Well bmw I haven't bothered trying to use its nav yet because of pretty much issues on that topic

It's non-touch and the highest dimensionality control is the wheel which clicks u/d/l/r and presses

the only other thing is the rotation cw/ccw.

So I haven't even bothered going to where I type an address... but what's the most trivial possible way?

I can only think of scroll through letters/numbers with wheel like that onion meme about the iwheel back in the day lol

And then max a predictive text which may or may not work in your favor 😛

Plus a bunch of things feel backwards with the wheel like zoom in/out on the map. Must be a euro thing because driver on the wrong side lmao

Imagine being a lefty flip mouse user and referring to the right button as lmb and vice-versa. You consider it perfectly understandable... yet you're still using the terms as their only exact opposite meaning... could be the only instance of when this happens in most people's entire lifetime too...

But I digress. The phone I try to always set up the nav and never touch at all while driving. Same would go for the car's console however they set it up. Iwheel is worse, touch screen still seems intensely dangerous given how much attention is taken off the road

or even how long my other hand is off the steering wheel. Empty highway seems safest but tires/engine/whatever probably has highest chance to blow up here from whichever issue. Usually you have no idea about engine overheating or wheel about to burst until you hit 100kph+

Just yesterday, I got reminded yet again by a charred stain on the freeway. Idk what happened but it was probably bad and required cleanup lol

But then you have stuff like speed, gas, rpms, engine temp on the dash. Those things moved anywhere away from their usual spot is a step in the wrong direction imo

RPMs I guess you don't need because who cares on a tesla. Everything else is a plain stupid idea. Why move the instruments away from the one optimal place where driver is already looking

Might as well have the Tesla drive itself 100% of the time and turn the ipad into an actual ipad with just music and youtube.

But again, imo, no amount of ai or software will ever replace certain things like steering column physically connected to steering wheel. Even power steering is more dangerous when it goes out only if you didn't know you lost it until you hit a bump at 120kph. That's why they tell you to keep both hands on wheel btw

BLIS is good until light dies and you think nobody is in blind spot (you were trained not to check it physically -- physically looking there is literally the best possible technology in terms of reliability)

[deep zealot]

You good bro? You been typing to yourself for over half an hour

[copper oyster]

BMW isn't perfect and can make equally as stupid choices: the alert for passenger restraint malfunction is the first one I've seen that not only never stops, it completely prevents you from seeing time on dash. You can only see it on center console for a few seconds if you navigate in or out of current menu... so again, take one hand off, look away from road, feel around for iwheel and click it left or right. Sometimes it takes two tries because it's the root menu or you're selecting something without another one. On the other hand, the oil level it checks for you doesn't alert at all on minimum until you manually go to that place. It was already running long enough and the level was measured at minimum (it does this automatically regardless)

[sage jewel]

I hate the BMW supra

[deep zealot]

It’s a toyota supra

[sage jewel]

its basically a BMW

with the engine and stuff

mk 5

[deep zealot]

Then the Mk4 supra is a yamaha

and the Z4 is a toyota

[sage jewel]

the mk 5 does not give the mk 4 vibes yk get it

[copper oyster]

Well tbh I kinda hate it too because it made me think I never need to check my oil in the menu manually and it would be one of the many 1024^1024 alerts that come up

[deep zealot]

It doesn’t need to

[sage jewel]

anyways

[deep zealot]

it’s a 20 year old generational car

[copper oyster]

They literally made a feature that needs one additional trivial thing to make sense

[sage jewel]

mk 5 is a good car dont get me wrong

its not quite as iconic as the mk 4

[copper oyster]

Well idk the point of BMW at this point tbh. I mean you can find parts easier than a saab I guess

[deep zealot]

It’s a fit replacement

The B58 engine is super solid

[copper oyster]

Once in a while I floor it and it gives me "Engine malfunction; reduced power" until next start. Whatever that means. On a saab, the engine alert didn't say to "drive to destination carefully and have it diagnosed". Engine lamp meant like pull over and check out if anything obvious is wrong

[deep zealot]

Now you can get it in manual

[copper oyster]

Manual tbh is one thing I can agree makes sense to replace with automatic to a reasonable extent

[deep zealot]

In fact there aren’t any inline 6 engines that are manufactured now that do it’s job very well. BMW makes the most solid i6’s

That’s why Toyota picked BMW

Tbh I wish they put in the S58

[copper oyster]

You never risk doing severe damage in a few seconds because of third pedal mistake during one of the stops/starts you do literally always

[copper oyster]

Inlines 6 and up are also a logical thing to get rid of. It might be pretty much on the opposing side of the stuff I wrote chapters about just now. Ipad in center for everything on dash is absolutely the worst possible decision. Enough pistons in a V instead of inline is always more optimal. I don't think there's any possible timing mechanism that shows otherwise

Inline 6 I'm pretty sure was on a 94 Jeep I drove. You can literally feel the lag of 6 cylinders in a row lol

[deep zealot]

Imagine the scandal if Toyota or even BMW went V6 for their performance cars. They’ll never hear the end of it

BMW has been building inline 6 for decades and they’ve been getting it right every time

I certainly don’t think they’re laggy or anything

Id say the V6 in a Camry is worse than the inline 6 in my old E90 328i

[copper oyster]

Tbh I might be talking shite. I'm thinking V6 has more synchronization between the opposing cylinders

[deep zealot]

Inline 6’s are equally balanced throughout the crank. In fact i6’s generally have better harmonics than V6’s, and they’re far easier to manufacture and design

[copper oyster]

Ah exactly what I imagined then

Plus you'd probably conserve energy from this?

[deep zealot]

Efficiency is a non factor

[copper oyster]

Well timing as well

Meanwhile inline 6 has no balance between groups of 2 is the difference? If that's the case, then it could be exactly what I imagined makes the inline physically less optimal than v always

flat and w and stuff also better I guess

Because if you want to connect the first and last cylinder directly somehow, you'd have the longest possible mechanism in terms of size lol

[deep zealot]

Since while one is on the induction stroke the other is on the power stroke which balance it out in 3 pairs

It’s really really smooth

[copper oyster]

I agree but they still make hybrids and stuff. Isn't vtec on hondas and vvt for toyotas added efficiency as well?

[deep zealot]

Variable valve timing is completely different from cylinder arrangement

BMW implemented Valvetronic and VANOS for that reason

[copper oyster]

What does it do though

[deep zealot]

Which one

They all do the same thing in different ways

[copper oyster]

Variable

[deep zealot]

Changes the camshaft lobe timing to optimize the engine for whatever it’s doing

[copper oyster]

something slips is all I know. At a certain rpm from throttle if I remember correctly. Then 'vtec kicks in'

[deep zealot]

That’s Hondas implementation yes

[copper oyster]

So... it just saves gas in the end? 😛

[deep zealot]

After a certain RPM, VTEC selects a certain camshaft profile to optimize the engine valves for higher performance rather than efficiency

Below that certain RPM it reverts back to efficiency

[copper oyster]

Oh so other way around

[deep zealot]

More or less

That’s why it’s variable

Toyotas implementation is called VVT

[copper oyster]

Yeah that I know. Isn't it more or less the same thing

[deep zealot]

It’s variable valve timing but afaik it’s not a physical cam profile switcher

VANOS on the other hand is ridiculously complicated and cool

[copper oyster]

If it's not even anything physical regarding the engine or cam

or even anything between and including the wheels in the end, then...

[deep zealot]

It is physical though. They each change the way the camshaft interacts with the valves

VANOS and double VANOS does it with sprockets on the side

[copper oyster]

it's just a profile in an auto car or something ecu related which probably limits whatever and the variable is where that limit is 😛

Injectors are physical but have profiles in computers I heard

[deep zealot]

It’s actually not ECU controlled in most cases

VTEC physically clicks into place when the stress on the cam reaches a certain point in RPM

however if you’re talking about i-VTEC that’s a different story

that is ECU related

same deal with VVT and VVT-i

[copper oyster]

I remember somebody even asking me if I think I could flash firmware for their freighter trucks. I said yes because what they explained was some differend binary file firmware that I had to flash over existing firmware lol. It was with some device but they already had it or knew where to get it for me

But it never ended up happening at all I think. I mean I would have not turned it off while it's doing that thing. Still, something about bricking a 200k+ truck ecu makes it scarier than flashing garmin from microsd

[copper oyster]

Ah ok. I didn't remember how it mechanically engaged, but thought it was the ECU one and it moved it into position where it slips

Same thing except I guess ECU can be told how much throttle, rpm, etc it should happen. Physical governors I pretty much only really understand centrifugal clutch.

[copper oyster]

I'd rather it be controlled by computer in this case btw. It actually seems like something useful with an optimal profile that actually improves something. Versus a base model having a stock profile and a sports model with profile that lifts some restriction it added in the first place

There's a show I watched where they took an A4 wagon and flashed the RS4 profile or something. It ripped lol. All you need is the specific Audi device thing to change the firmware. It's almost like Apple using their own screws except I guess limiting a base model is still helpful

Granny exhaust and such. It won't rip for long just because the profile or shift points and whatnot are changed for a reason

My buddy told me one of his first stang mods was taking some sort of governor off. Then, last minute reads a forum where somebody mentions they need a better part before letting her rip. Some sort of mount or strut. Stock ones broke lol.

[copper oyster]

Also I'm talking crap. I remember now it does actually result in more power when you accelerate. Not exactly fuel efficiency related, even though you might get more power with the same amount of gas. I can respect that. Still, yesterday literally a guy pulled up beside me in a sport civic with a vinyl on the sideskirt that said one of the VTEC-whatevers. I respected the patches of manually sanded off paint somehow revealing another matte black under the gloss lol.

It looked like a rally beater even though it probably was the original body parts which he began to sand and didn't finish for some reason... I guess he decided to stick with dealer gloss. The matte underneath is like an optional mod feature.

[obsidian magnet]

Yeah I had a smaller one hit my shin when I was young and it brought me to years

[copper oyster]

I still have that ram red monster truck one from 2000s lying around. I wonder if i can get it to work lol

Last i checked its not the battery anymore

I think last thing that happened was I tried a new battery charged and the wheels jolted when i flicked the switch. Then it died completely

But yeah definitely a shinner from those the first time i tried was the last lol

[fathom socket]

I guess I need to equip my self with extra mirrors

love extra tight parking spaces in svitzerland

[lone fern]

get some blindspot mirrors that stick on your normal mirrors, they work great!

[fathom socket]

they are too small

also won't pass inspection

[lone fern]

oh

i didn’t know they wouldnt pass inspection

is there a reason behind that!?

[deep zealot]

Beauty

[stoic ledge]

@jovial mauve sold the BMW already

Literally sold it to the initial dealer who wanted it, but they offered my quite a lot more

They're going to import, detail, service etc it

So for me

[jovial mauve]

ah nice

gg

[stoic ledge]

Made 3.5k on it just making some phone calls

Maybe I could've gotten slightly more if I did all the work

But now it's 0 risk for me, great profit for me... So I'm happy

[dense shard]

VVT isn't valve lift.

Toyota's version of VTEC was VVTL-i

My car has VVT-iE

[deep zealot]

I didnt say it was valve lift

Variable valve timing

[dense shard]

That wasn't immediately obvious with the comments leading up to my response

VVT-iE adds an electric motor on the intake side. No more pesky oil consumption issues

iVTEC also isn't a separate cam lobe. Rather it's some valve trickery

Basically below a certain amount only one intake valve actuates. Over said threshold both valves open up.

Or rather VTEC-E

Honda's marketing is crap

[deep zealot]

theres a million different variations

between brands and subrands

VVL is stuff like audi's AVS and BMW's valvetronic

dunno if the japanese have an equivalent implementation

[dense shard]

They did.

Subaru, Toyota, Honda have all largely abandoned it.

Nissan likely never had it. They do have variable compression engines tho

Forced induction or simply cost to benefit made it largely pointless.

oh wild. Toyota, Nissan, and Mitsubishi still have it.

But it appears Toyota no longer really uses valvematic for their newest engines. I guess they managed to meet all goals without the added complexity.

[bitter compass]

What a great car 👀

[charred depot]

slander

[fathom socket]

I need both working mirrors with cars that came with both

[charred depot]

305 only has little squareish mirrors tight to the body

few of my friends cars only have a mirror on the right and center which is fine for UK mot

[fathom socket]

It's not for polish standards

And I'll my proof of registration confiscated

[charred depot]

an audi with oversized alloys?!?! wont see another

fiesta mk5 in the reflection

[prime valve]

The back wheel looks a lil bigger

[fathom socket]

yoooo that thing is lit 🔥

[lone fern]

the car meet is fire !

[golden rune]

are hydrogen combustion engines the future?

for car guy i mean

guys*

[tropic mulch]

not at the moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b88v-WvqzeQ

[trim oracle]

why do i recognise this

[tropic mulch]

It's Collette Davis's drift car

i posted it a week or two ago here

She just finished building it a few days ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5He0qPa9tUA

[fathom socket]

First time I've worked on a first gen yaris

and it was really bad experience

the whole car was being held by glue from hot glue gun

but come one

at least drill a new hone, put a little bolt with a washer and whatever this thing is called

[stoic ledge]

Sure, over 35 years

[analog musk]

Hydrogen is volatile, so are battery's but they have become a lot safer. Hydrogen also requires pressure vessles, which are becoming more expensive then battery's.

Hydregom fuel cells and hydregon for infrastructure is beat out by water based battery systems where the water is pumped up, to a different resvour. So its not useful for storing excess power.

Hydrogen fuel cells have the capacity to reach 15kJ/g, which would be abslutly insane. For aircraft, someday, mabey.

But currently its just more expensive, and there is less infistrcututre to support it. And because people don't want to build looping systems because that kinda takes the function of hydregon out of the car

You can't travel well, in a hydregon car

[fathom socket]

you cant build water based battery systems just anywhere, there's only really a limited number of candidates around where the landscape is ideal enough

[golden rune]

yeah I get it where you are coming from

but

for like sound, thrill

manual gearbox and things like that

IMO I dont like the electric cars and NA petrols

i like ussualy diesels but i am not sure about hydrogen, what would it be like

not hydrogen electric, but hydrogen combustion engines

cause they could have the sound, the power and most importantly manual gearbox and a clutch

[idle birch]

i cant lie the urge to buy a clio and do this to it

😂

the body kit costs as much as the car lmao

[tropic mulch]

not sure they're supposed to do this

[jovial mauve]

God i love the way the front looks

[pearl tiger]

@jovial mauvewhat model?

[jovial mauve]

A6 c7 11

[pearl tiger]

nice :3

close friend of mine bought rs5 on saturday

[jovial mauve]

Also very nice

[fallen falcon]

ours 🙂

i'm not the biggest fan of audi vehicles tho

carrying a VCDS cable all time just in case stuff go south..

in where i live, lexus offers with helicopter support if your car pulls a ford

i'd say that's cause they know their cars don't easily break

[lone fern]

ye have fun wit the audi

[frank knot]

Eh no biggie. They'll probably just get warned for it. They probably wont do it again.

[stoic ledge]

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/tesla-model-x-driver-blames-autopilot-for-melbourne-crash-report

Ohno the car starts to vibrate, I should not intervene... The car was driving officer, not me

[deep zealot]

Tesla moment

[fallen falcon]

tesla, ez hippie day ez prey. why would anybody buy them outside of supercharger network..

now that cheaper and li-po, smaller battery package EVs are out

arguably more reliable vehicles too

[analog musk]

Power can be transported pretty far, water based batters can still work by using the pressure of ground water, and fuel cells loose to geothermal everywhere else for infrastructure, and when thats not an option fuel cells might eventually be viable, there pretty volume centric im just saying at the moment, there really expensive for use cases they would otherwise excell at

[fallen falcon]

are you referring to hydrogen with fuel cells?

[analog musk]

Unless your planning on burning hydrogen in a ice engine, fuel cells are what I am referring to, using hydregion.

[fallen falcon]

hydrogen will likely not be a big thing for cars

the whole equipment of conversion and pressurized cans are not a good idea

weight and danger

it might be a thing for trucks though.

cars are moving towards better batteries that last longer and charge faster

[lime willow]

frick electric and hybrid cars

[fallen falcon]

they're great tbh

[lime willow]

Gas for the win baby

[fallen falcon]

gas is vibration and more issues lel

[lime willow]

mine looks like this without the rims and mine is red

[lime willow]

gas is more fun to modify

[fallen falcon]

those are nice looking cheap cars nowadays

yeah, EVs are limited on modifications

[lime willow]

it has costed me more than 10k to look pristine

[fallen falcon]

waste of cash

[lime willow]

no

[fallen falcon]

it shouldn't cost more than 10k.

[lime willow]

mf

[fallen falcon]

it's true

[lime willow]

I bought it a junkyard

[fallen falcon]

why would you buy a junkyard 98 BMW, lol

[lime willow]

because it was cheaper back then

now I've built it back up

[fallen falcon]

i mean you shelled over 10k into it

[lime willow]

yes and?

it does over 600 hp

[fallen falcon]

at that price you can get much better cars

[lime willow]

runs a mild 250km/h

[fallen falcon]

while burning all the rubber, no TCS kek

our audi runs 250 too

[lime willow]

is ur built?

[fallen falcon]

no but if i remove the limiter it will go higher

[lime willow]

I can probably make mine go 270 or 280 with a decent tune

[fallen falcon]

i had a pedal controller + chip for it

which would likely make it hit faster

[lime willow]

I have custom chip

I can control every aspect of my car

[fallen falcon]

nice but like.. you can still get more modern cars that are fast

i mean 15k you can get a Q50 hybrid and that thing is a much better car

[lime willow]

but modern cars are scary to modify

[fallen falcon]

eh, some are not

[lime willow]

I hate typing like this

[fallen falcon]

stage 3 on ours gets towards 400 HP, and 400 HP on a torsen wheelbase is like.. way better than 600 on an old boat 🙂

[lime willow]

I got a broken finger on my right hand so I can only type with 5 fingers

because bandage

[lime willow]

what does ur audi weigh?

[fallen falcon]

i can't imagine breaking a finger

1500kg

[lime willow]

Mine weighs 1100

[fallen falcon]

but really it's about traction

[lime willow]

weight reduction babyy

[lime willow]

traction is for babies

[fallen falcon]

it's got that torsen gen 4, the one that is a modified version of the AWD found in lancia rally cars

[lime willow]

wheelspin

[fallen falcon]

yeah tell that on corners..

[lime willow]

plus I broke my finger working on my car

[fallen falcon]

sounds bit.. eh

[lime willow]

Drift which is when you slide sideways in a controlled way

[fallen falcon]

and get pulled by police 😄

[lime willow]

https://tenor.com/view/swag-gif-23568560

[lime willow]

the police here cant go faster then like 220

[fallen falcon]

doesn't matter

you'll still get tickets / radar

[lime willow]

plus I have a license plate flipper

[fallen falcon]

you're worse than an average BMW user 🙂

[lime willow]

highly illegal btw

[lime willow]

nah

[fallen falcon]

obviously..

why on earth would you flip your plate..

[lime willow]

I want it as a track car but I need a new daily and a trailer

[fallen falcon]

yeah for track i can see the point

[lime willow]

to not get checked by the speed cameras

[fallen falcon]

keep speed to track

doesn't require big brain

[lime willow]

thinking of swapping the engine to a 2JZ or a LS6

[fallen falcon]

is that uh

[lime willow]

both can hold insane amounts of horses

[fallen falcon]

MsomethingB50

stock BMW block

[lime willow]

and a 4 inch compound turbo

2jz is toyota

[fallen falcon]

tbh 600 is way more than enough even for track

[lime willow]

LS6 is chevrolet

[fallen falcon]

was asking about what you currently have inside

yeah i know.

[lime willow]

oooh

[fallen falcon]

LS9 is better, though way more expensive nowadays

[lime willow]

I got the stock engine atm

with a swapped turbo

boost go brrr

[fallen falcon]

the LS9 top is pretty built, got a supercharger. nice whine

lumina's use it down aus. 700 HP

[lime willow]

I like turbo flutter

[fallen falcon]

sometimes lag tho

[lime willow]

eh

that's why you run compund turbos

reduces the turbo lag

[fallen falcon]

for daily get a genesis or something, like G70 with the twin turbo

could prolly be had around 20k

still very snappy

[lime willow]

I want a Ford F150 or dodge ram 3500

[fallen falcon]

oh, trucks

[lime willow]

something big

[fallen falcon]

nissan titan XD

[lime willow]

for launching boats etc

anyways I gtg

cya

[fallen falcon]

later

[idle birch]

because he just really wants the police to mark his car 😂

flipped plates are easily the best way to get pulled over lmao

[fallen falcon]

yeah tbh, lol

[wispy cloak]

Get a ford

[lime willow]

but what ford

[wispy cloak]

If you want one comparable to a 3500 then probably an f250 or f350

How big are these boats

[charred terrace]

Get something useful

[lime willow]

pickups are usefull

[lime willow]

decently large

[charred terrace]

F150s are not “useful” aside from killing people

[wispy cloak]

Big enough to use goosenecks?

[lime willow]

yes

I am looking at a modified F150 atm

600 horses

has the coupling for gooseneck

[wispy cloak]

I'd probably get an f250 or f350 because the f150 wasn't really designed with towing a gooseneck in mind

[lime willow]

it's modified to tow a gooseneck

[wispy cloak]

But what does that entail

And what does that cost

[lime willow]

it costs 15 grand

[lime willow]

that it's powerfull enough and has the power to tow

[wispy cloak]

I'd be more worried about the suspension being sacked out

[lime willow]

it aint

[wispy cloak]

And the gooseneck hitch not having the same reinforcement as it would on a truck designed go carry one

I could be wrong

[lime willow]

he showed a video of him towing a gooseneck

[lone fern]

mine has plowed snow and wasn’t built for it

works just fine

[lime willow]

with a boat

on it'

the suspension aint sagging

[lone fern]

i think a goosneck would be ok as long as whatever you’re pulling isn’t too heavy

[lime willow]

boat

[lone fern]

also depends on what year you buy

[lime willow]

just let me buy my f150

damn

[lone fern]

a boat will pull fine w/ that

[wispy cloak]

As long as you don't buy a ram

[lone fern]

^^

don’t buy a 5.4 triton 3v either @lime willow

from the years 04-08 or 9

[wispy cloak]

That too

[lone fern]

and i regret buying my 2005 4.2l v6 f150 as it gets the same gas milage as the 4.6l v8

[brittle totem]

First "major" issue with our used bmw 225i xdrive the front right coil snapped radomaly Great thing it happend at home and not on the highway.

[lone fern]

riiip

idk what happened to ur pic it’s all messed up

[brittle totem]

My moms send it trough the message app and she has an iPhone so every time he send a pricture to me it gets very blurry for some reason. But this was the first "major" issue in 140000km and like 7 years.

[stoic ledge]

We had a spring snap on a previous car, but only like the lower part so there was still enough spring for it to be drivable. Did the spring cut in in half or something?

Nice colour btw

[fallen falcon]

look at the towing capacity rather than making guesses, brake assisted, non-brake assisting, etc

boats will obviously vary in sizes and weight

the F150 will probably carry a 8 meters of fiberglass with a rather basic 100 pony yamaha

but if you're going towards a yatch / lobster or higher end speed boats like fountain.. get a bigger truck

or just lend one cause that's what some boat owners do when they can't carry bigger stuff

[jovial mauve]

@stoic ledge https://www.autoscout24.nl/aanbod/mercedes-benz-cls-63-amg-v8-bi-turbo-524pk-carbon-perf-ed-led-benzine-zwart-11a60f85-06ba-455d-8730-308be9f54abe?sort=power&desc=1&lastSeenGuidPresent=true&cldtsrc=listPage&cldtidx=13&search_id=d0n2p9f9q4&source=listpage_search-results

https://tenor.com/view/blank-space-taylor-swift-next-mistake-gif-10929244

[fallen falcon]

looks like a BMW owner car

[stoic ledge]

That looks like an AliExpress special

No offense

[fallen falcon]

indeed it does, kek

[jovial mauve]

yeah the red would be instant gone

[stoic ledge]

But the blacked out everything, AliExpress stickers, AliExpress infotainment system....

[fallen falcon]

it's likely been abused

it's garbage.

[stoic ledge]

It's a recent import

[jovial mauve]

where do you buy them?

the glass ball?

[fallen falcon]

you can find better stuff on aliexpress small brain

at least you won't get pulled over for riding a dork car

[stoic ledge]

The base of the car looks quite solid, the interior also looks on the pictures at least to be in nice condition. It's just the mods which aren't really tasteful ...

[jovial mauve]

dayummmmmm chillout man

[jovial mauve]

also nice option heated and vented seats

[fallen falcon]

you can get those on a 10k car nowadays.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah noticed the ventilated seats, that's nice

[jovial mauve]

there is a cls500 close to where i live perhaps word taking a look it is pretty boring spec tho

[fallen falcon]

why do you need a CLS

[stoic ledge]

10k gets you a 10 year old Golf if you're lucky

[fallen falcon]

depends where you live.

but you can find 10k cars with cooled seats

it's not that special.

[jovial mauve]

https://www.autoscout24.nl/aanbod/mercedes-benz-cls-500-amg-sport-distronic-cavansiet-blauw-schuifda-benzine-blauw-a20811ca-9b78-4997-8886-640a25f37f4c?sort=power&desc=1&lastSeenGuidPresent=true&cldtsrc=listPage&cldtidx=21&search_id=d0n2p9f9q4&source=listpage_search-results

little bit granddad spec

[fallen falcon]

looks bot

[stoic ledge]

Yeah sure in 2000 Mercedes S-Class with 300k km on it

[jovial mauve]

think ill try to see it this weekend

[fallen falcon]

doesn't have to be that bad

audi gave those seats to some B8 chassis

actually useable rides

[stoic ledge]

I like that spec more Also in Echt

[fallen falcon]

that looks off the shelf as heck

no difference from a CLS base model.

in terms of looks

[jovial mauve]

i figured haha i would swap the rims and get rid of the chrome window posts tbh

they also have a cla45 i think

[fallen falcon]

those aren't too great either

typically with the seats

[stoic ledge]

I actually like chrome on a car 👀

[fallen falcon]

alcantra leather meh

[jovial mauve]

i dont really like the chrome was the first thing i got rid of on the a6

[fallen falcon]

plastic is worse.. but modern cars do be like that

like a lot of plastic

[stoic ledge]

I'm not seeing a CLA45

[jovial mauve]

oh it was on their FB

[fallen falcon]

CLA is not a great ride anyways

[stoic ledge]

Only a CLA 200 Shooting Brake

[jovial mauve]

C450 is also nice

[fallen falcon]

shooting brake makes things more interesting tho

C-series are smaller wheel base so it should be more fitting

[stoic ledge]

https://www.autoscout24.nl/aanbod/porsche-panamera-4-8-4s-origineel-nederlands-sport-chrono-vol-benzine-grijs-c362a273-65dc-4f61-99be-3e3ee47882e3

They have a Panamera also xD

[jovial mauve]

ooof

[fallen falcon]

looks like crap

[jovial mauve]

my friend keeps sending me those haha

quite like it

[fallen falcon]

PDKs have issues on the macan, it's a revolved DSG

so it's not bulletproof

[stoic ledge]

Panamera grew on my over the years looks wise

[fallen falcon]

also the center console is a lot of confusing buttons

[stoic ledge]

No VAG product is

[fallen falcon]

taycan is better tbh

[stoic ledge]

https://www.autoscout24.nl/aanbod/lancia-ypsilon-1-4-limited-edition-2010-airco-cruise-control-benzine-blauw-670d6708-2742-4165-9ff9-f4d28b00f769

Ypsilon

Ah yes the 37k Taycan

[fallen falcon]

if you want one of those.. buy a guilietta

it's not actually half bad

the steering wheel on that platform isn't the best, but it's still an OK car

[stoic ledge]

Ypsilon is waaaaay smaller than a Giulietta lol

[fallen falcon]

same platform

[stoic ledge]

Wtf

No

[fallen falcon]

from fiat

it's similar stuff

[stoic ledge]

You're thinking of the Delta

[fallen falcon]

they use the same steering rack, etc

this one does too

[stoic ledge]

I'm going to pull the X doubt card on that one

[jovial mauve]

c43 would be ideal but have to see how much i can get back for my car

[fallen falcon]

it's actually the same platform like as in volkswagen's MQB

think a golf to an A4

[stoic ledge]

It's definitely not the same platform

[jovial mauve]

doesnt need to leave so not in a rush

[fallen falcon]

they don't have the exact same wheelbase

[gleaming stirrup]

Sorry 🙏

[fallen falcon]

but they use the same gear

[stoic ledge]

Even MQB has different versions with different characteristics

[fallen falcon]

yeah but it carries similar stuff

a lot of parts in fact.

[jovial mauve]

https://www.autoscout24.nl/aanbod/mercedes-benz-c-43-amg-benzine-wit-4489686a-d340-4423-8104-02f529fba2b5?sort=standard&desc=0&lastSeenGuidPresent=true&cldtsrc=listPage&cldtidx=2&search_id=1sdu1aehwwh&source=listpage_search-results

[fallen falcon]

those are kinda nice, i've been in the C220 flavor of it

wouldn't pay that cash though.

maybe if it was 20k

[stoic ledge]

Lol a C43 AMG

For 20k

[fallen falcon]

but then garbage condition

[stoic ledge]

Dream on

[fallen falcon]

so?

[jovial mauve]

20k would have bought as many as i can

[stoic ledge]

20k I'd also have 5 yes

[fallen falcon]

your country's overpriced pricing does not equal to other lands`

[jovial mauve]

c180 is like more then 20k

[fallen falcon]

not really.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah with 150k km

[fallen falcon]

depends on mileage, etc

150k on those is still good tho

[jovial mauve]

https://www.autoscout24.nl/aanbod/mercedes-benz-180-benzine-zilver-f268e347-17ee-46a8-bf4c-4013a542bef4?sort=standard&desc=0&lastSeenGuidPresent=true&cldtsrc=listPage&cldtidx=2&search_id=17g18m7x2yo&source=listpage_search-results

[stoic ledge]

Or more probably

[fallen falcon]

they survive

mercedes is overpriced

[jovial mauve]

if you want some options more

[fallen falcon]

why buy those cars even

get a genesis or something.

[stoic ledge]

What Genesis

[fallen falcon]

G70

[brittle totem]

The whole spring the car technically was drivable but its not worth the risk. Because it was basically at ground level on right side. But a pretty weird thing to happened randomly we just put the car in reverse and the spring just snapped. But it have had less issue then our old Toyota verso so far.

[fallen falcon]

what kek

[stoic ledge]

Ah yes lemme import one with a 30k import tax

[fallen falcon]

find alternatives

[jovial mauve]

do one for me 2!

[fallen falcon]

na you ride that CLS 63 with completely tinted windows

[stoic ledge]

Kia Stinger 3.3 V6 is only 100k

[fallen falcon]

and loud exhaust

and get pulled over in your 18

[stoic ledge]

So they stopped offering it

[jovial mauve]

an amg with a loud exhaust? whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

insane

[fallen falcon]

this guy doesn't even have a driver's license

or just likes to get pulled over.

[jovial mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/nick-young-question-marks-what-excuse-me-huh-gif-4486363

[stoic ledge]

Ah yeah so that's a bit worse than we had 😛 But with the road conditions and speed bumps everywhere it's no surprise

[fallen falcon]

yes.

no question needed

a cop on a bad day will pull over a CLS 63 that is all black.

an idiot could figure that out.

[jovial mauve]

your right next time ill buy a new car ill just ask the cops first if they think its okay xD

[stoic ledge]

Mercedes B-Class with glued paddle shifters and a cut up centre console, that's what they drive

[brittle totem]

The speed bumps is terrible where I live it feels like the whole car will brake buy just driving over it at very low speed.

[stoic ledge]

SO it's 👌

[jovial mauve]

true you are on brand then

same as with the a class you get a free pass

[stoic ledge]

A6 3.0 TDI BiTurbo also

VW Touran

[jovial mauve]

true

but mine isnt a diesel

so maybe half a pass thenm

[stoic ledge]

Hmmmm

[jovial mauve]

somne guy that lives near to me has a recent GLA45

i swear he starts it and instant pedal to the bottom

every day

next month its dead

[charred depot]

2013 merc moment

not uncommon

I mean atleast mercedes are paying for it when it happens but it should maybe probably be a recall

[jovial mauve]

sucks if that happens to you

so far my carng is pretty good

[stoic ledge]

Who would've thought

[jovial mauve]

what do you think of this one MK

https://www.autoscout24.nl/aanbod/mercedes-benz-e-400-amg-aut7-4-matic-head-up-memory-sfeerverlichting-p-benzine-grijs-3d40b154-6f1f-420d-8281-a7f5fcbeaddd?sort=power&desc=1&lastSeenGuidPresent=true&cldtsrc=listPage&cldtidx=9&search_id=1n1yvvumgi9&source=listpage_search-results

[charred depot]

disposable tosh

[stoic ledge]

Fairly nice

[jovial mauve]

would instant strip the amg badge off tho

[stoic ledge]

Quite some miles for a gas guzzler like that 😛

[jovial mauve]

thats not how that works

true

[lone fern]

2005 f150 moment

[jovial mauve]

cant find the plate so idk if it is import

[charred depot]

light and still attached

the merc is a design fault not really rust

[lone fern]

ah

[stoic ledge]

J-762-TS

[jovial mauve]

i would get the E over the CLS tho so perhaps i need to go to VEEN de gekste

[stoic ledge]

So yes import

[jovial mauve]

yup

a year per owner

ish

excluding garages

[charred depot]

sent each of them into bankruptcy

[stoic ledge]

Meanwhile my car is over 10yrs now, still with the 2nd owner, no garages inbetween

[jovial mauve]

i think if they drive at as buisness car it also shows up