cars

[stoic ledge]

Who needs efficiency when you have a wagon

[bronze widget]

2jz swap it

[stoic ledge]

[brittle totem]

So if you want to own a model x here in Sweden cost like 1 590$ every month if you paid the car in cash and drives an average of 15 500 miles a year and the base price for a model x in Sweden is like 110,000$ if I compare that do a XC90 D5 AWD inscription with a base price of 66,000$ that would have costed an average of 1 627$ every month if you bought the car cash without a loan same as the model x long range and with the same amount of miles driven every year. So yeah you save alot if chose a ev over a gas car even if the ev has a way higher sticker price then a "similar" ice car.

[bronze widget]

svenska

jag talar svenska

not

[dry pine]

im cool with just an intrgra

[bronze widget]

i cant speak swedish for crap

[dry pine]

screw the ev

[bronze widget]

brod rod

[stoic ledge]

I'd still rather drive a Volvo than a Tesla

[wispy cloak]

Same

[vocal mural]

€399 for Mokka E, Max 10000 km annually

[bronze widget]

id rather an xc90 over a model x
but id rather a model S over an s60

[dense shard]

It's 90% of the efficiency

[bronze widget]

id rather the s90 over the model s tho

[bronze widget]

idk why but i really like Peugeot 305s

[somber grail]

I’d rather have the cheaper car with the higher monthly cost as if you live in a place that snows the salt causes cars to rust

[wispy cloak]

Most cars have aluminum bodies now don't they?

[somber grail]

They will corrode

From other metals

[bronze widget]

like copper

[brittle totem]

Volvo is just boring for me. Maybe because I live in Sweden and they are every where so there is nothing special about them. And modern Volvos is just to expensive I would rather take a germen at that price.

[bronze widget]

850R go brr

[stoic ledge]

Model S quite a bit larger than an S60

But V60 > all

[bronze widget]

facts

you cant go wrong with a wagon

[brittle totem]

Its way larger then a v90 to if you compare boot space,

[stoic ledge]

10k km

[bronze widget]

i never thought id see a better looking wagon than an rs6 avant

[somber grail]

Nah you guys got it all wrong

This is what you need

[wispy cloak]

Aluminum will still slowly corrode but it's not on the same level as steel

[stoic ledge]

Yeah it's amazing

[bronze widget]

mmmmm

[brittle totem]

Why does the us spec have that ugly orange bit in the headlight ?

[bronze widget]

idk

[wispy cloak]

Probably some dumb law

The US has very stupid laws regarding turn signals

And a lot of other automotive safety items

[stoic ledge]

Side marker yes

Many have a plastic reflector in the bumper on the side

[bronze widget]

which are 🤮

[brittle totem]

Isn't matrix leds illegal in the us to for some weird reason to ?

[bronze widget]

whoever thought of those are the type of person to order a water with extra whip cream at starbucks

[stoic ledge]

Luckily it's not on European cars often

Only car current sold in Europe with those markers is the Mustang Mach-E (that I know of)

[bronze widget]

they used to but now they are becoming legal

according to google

im canadian so idk what the frick frack those weird muricans are doing

[stoic ledge]

[bronze widget]

i know that in canada they are tho as of 2018 or so

[wispy cloak]

They just legalized them I think

[bronze widget]

hot euro spec

[stoic ledge]

I'd totally drive one

Tbh I'd also be fine with a B3 base engine

As long as it has the R-Design package

[bronze widget]

yes

[stoic ledge]

My Uncle has a T5 R-Design, it's nice

[bronze widget]

t5

i dont understand volvo trims

is a higher number better

like is a t5 worse than a t8

[stoic ledge]

Yeah higher is better

[bronze widget]

so the opposite of mini golf

[stoic ledge]

But B = Mild Hybrid

[stoic ledge]

What?

[bronze widget]

in minigolf lower is better, in volvo higher is better

[stoic ledge]

Aaaaaah

But basically in any car higher is better

[dry pine]

not necessary

it could indicate years, like r32, r33, r34, r35

[bronze widget]

but that isnt a trim

[dry pine]

evo 2, evo 3, evo 4, evo 5

oh

[bronze widget]

thats just a generation

[dry pine]

u wer talking trim

[bronze widget]

ye

[dry pine]

sry im slow af

[bronze widget]

its okay

[stoic ledge]

No we were talking engines

Also R32-33-34-35 aren't trims but generations

Ah yeah gotta read first before I reply xD

JakeTheRake beat me to it

[bronze widget]

haha

[vocal mural]

🤔

Let’s drive 87 km/h next time

[wispy cloak]

What does it say

[haughty ridge]

It says that you will get a fine if you drive 7 kph over the speedlimit if the speedlimit is less than 100 kph

[bronze widget]

it says:
In uw geval is geen boetebedrag van toepassing.

Er zijn boetes voor gemeten, snelheidoverschrijdingen vanaf 7km/u bik limieten onder de 100km/u

[stoic ledge]

[bitter compass]

Toepassing 👀

What are you dutch people doing with your toes while speeding

I hate that it looks like i can read and understand it and not understand at the same time

[stoic ledge]

Van toepassing zijn = to apply

[bitter compass]

If i get that right, why is it under 100kmh speed limit is +7kmh where they start measuring and by 130 only +6kmh

Like why one less

And then 100-120 is 8

👀

Also random shit I've seen in news today: driving 400+kmhis legal
No shit Sherlock, who would have expected it to be legal in a country without speedlimit

[stoic ledge]

That's basically what it says yes

TBh I didn't know that as I thought that there was only a correction of 3% on any speed, and that's it

Very certain my mom got a ticket for 1km/h over after correction

[stoic ledge]

Yes, but if you get in an accident and they deem you were driving too fast for the conditions (e.g. too much traffic etc) your insurance won't cover

[charred depot]

ive heard if you are doing over 130kmh you have a higher expectation on you in the case of an accident

Like even though its legal, and the person did move out infront of you. You are sorta expected to forsee this and be prepared.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah so adjusting to the conditions 😎

[charred depot]

no sir that is the driveshaft gaiter inspection portal

[prime valve]

Rusty boi

[charred depot]

"weve had trucks down here before"

[royal prairie]

I thought they went by a different name in the uk

[charred depot]

trucks?

older people / people from some areas call them lorrys or even tractors

[stoic ledge]

Tractor is the unit pulling the trailer

[crimson plinth]

Yikes

[timber oar]

Just reading that pisses me off and makes me glad i don't have inspections like that

[fathom socket]

Wouldn't it make sense to move the cars out to get the one you need and drive it down the driveway 🤣

Well it is extra work to put them back. But better than getting the semi stuck for hours of frustration.

[charred depot]

if its an LED lightbar and its less than like 300 watts id just use a fuse tap

just an m8 ring crimp where you took a photo of I guess then

[thorny dawn]

i'd personally run a cable to the boot. It's safer. If you ever need to use that jump point in the front you could end up blowing your light bar to pieces.

[civic spoke]

Remove the negative from the battery.

Just as a safety thing. When working on anything electrical on cars.

[charred depot]

no

explain how brining another 12v battery in parallel would blow the lightbar up

the only difference between adding another ring terminal to one of those threaded posts and the battery in the boot is a few meters of thick overspeced cable.

[thorny dawn]

You really want to test me? not knowing what i do for a living
There's a reason they have those jump points in the front and there's a very good reason why you should never jump a BMW from the AGM battery in the boot.
12v is 12v... voltage doesn't kill you. Amps is what kills you. Can you guarantee a running car connected to that 12v jump point to be kicking out the right amount of amps? I bet you cant.

[charred depot]

oh god

[thorny dawn]

You go hook up another 12v battery to the battery in the boot of a modern BMW. Let me know what happens, ill wait 😜

[charred depot]

plenty of people have done it

[thorny dawn]

and plenty more people have blown the ECM to bits.

[charred depot]

the only difference between that point and the battery in the boot is a few meters of thick wire

[thorny dawn]

No... no it really isnt.

[charred depot]

so whats the difference

[thorny dawn]

go look at the cable, let me know if its just point A to point B.

[charred depot]

the only obstacle is a high current fuse

weve actually had a E39 diesel with a car sat behind and infront jumping it

[thorny dawn]

I said modern.. this isn't an E39.

The old ones dont have AGM batteries

[charred depot]

you can jump start an AGM just fine

[stoic ledge]

Does the light bar come with indicators

runs

[charred depot]

but none the less you said it would blow up the light bar which absolutely wouldnt happen

why spread fearmongering BS

[thorny dawn]

Depends on the car its in. There's a very good reason you don't jump them on BMW's trust me I know this all too well. I tune vehicles for a living. BMW in one day, AGM battery. I have to hook up a permanent 12v feed to read and write to the ECU. Hooked one up to the back of a at the time brand new BMW 3 series. It blew the ECM, the battery control module and about 16 fuses. All of which had to be coded back in after replacing including the battery. When i spoke to BMW they explained it all that nothing should ever be hooked up the battery in the back. The cable from the front regulates the power going to the back and bypasses the battery when needed to get the car started. You should also never hook anything up to the point on the front, and only wire in aftermarket devices to the fuse points near the battery in the back.. never on the battery itself.

[charred depot]

that line will feed the fuse boxes with all the lights so how will this aftermarket light be so direly affected

[thorny dawn]

That line doesn't.. the lights run on a separate line.
Meh... not my car. Fit it wherever you want. You'll end up learning the hard way eventually.
Clearly looking at your pictures Ged you don't know much about modern cars at all with those two old bangers you knock about in.

Hey take the advice of an automotive electrical engineer. or some bloke in a shed with 2 old bangers.

I'm out

[charred depot]

Ah yes the argument win, muh job

[thorny dawn]

What do you do for a living Ged? Besides giving terrible advice on Discord?

[charred depot]

I am a rail electrician doing contracts for gemini rail and bombardier

[stoic ledge]

[thorny dawn]

Bit different then wouldn't you agree?

[charred depot]

Nah

[thorny dawn]

Let me know when a 0.2amp fluctuation can blow a train to pieces.

[charred depot]

makes sense

[thorny dawn]

Makes perfect sense in the car world. Makes no sense to you, because you know nothing about cars electronics.

[charred depot]

Electrics dont change because someone put wheels on

[thorny dawn]

Tolerances change massively between you and your trains.. and the systems in a car.

I give up, you're getting blocked. Not going to argue with an idiot about cars who drives 2 old bangers and doesn't have a clue about systems in modern cars.
"bEcAuSe i WoRk oN TrAiNs"

[charred depot]

you asked what I do

I didnt want to perform the art of insinuating knowledge based on jobs.

[thorny dawn]

Which then has no relevance to the conversation at all. Making your comments void of all actual knowledge

[charred depot]

yeah my previous message answers that

[thorny dawn]

It doesn't.. working on train lines doesn't make you a professional at working with cars electronics. They're two completely different things. Which technically makes me more qualified to answer the questions that were asked. If i want to know if i can bypass the grids electricity by hooking up the train line behind my house... i'll ask you.

[charred depot]

I didnt say it did

anyone can say they have x job

[cunning plinth]

This conversation's... electrifying.

[thorny dawn]

You're right anyone can. Which is why you don't work on trains. But if you want proof i can send you all my qualifications and my CV if it makes you feel better?

[charred depot]

im saying job flexing is stupid in the online environment

[thorny dawn]

Not when the job relates to the questions involved in the converstaion.

[charred depot]

if you have to bring your job in to prove a point it is questionable

[thorny dawn]

Not when some moron is giving terrible advice online

[charred depot]

yep

[thorny dawn]

I've blocked him... Fit the lights to the rear. Trust me 👍

[charred depot]

yep if you fit a strip of LEDs to where an entire other cars electrical system can be connected in your car is totally going to end up totalled!

gonna spontaneously combust mate

[thorny dawn]

again... WRONG!! not sure why you're even on here tbh.. you know nothing at all.

[charred depot]

just cant get enough of my lunacy can you

[thorny dawn]

well for some strange reason.. blocked on discord doesn't actually mean blocked, it just means it hides your messages. Then i get intrigued by the shit advice you give and have to open them for my own entertainment.

[charred depot]

it was sarcasm taking the piss out of you if you didnt detect it by the way

[thorny dawn]

your sarcasm and humour is about as good as a chocolate teapot. Don't give up your day job as a rail electrical engineer who is obviously seriously under paid as he has to buy cars worth about £700.

[charred depot]

You are about right on the saab, but the peugeot is certainly worth nearer £2k

mazdas probably pushing a bit over £2k aswell

sorry I dont buy expensive cars for status and image purposes

[cedar folio]

Hi

What are your guys dream cars including ones with modes on them tell and maybe show me a pick

Mine is the unicorn Lamborghini v3 by Alex Choi for supercar

Daily would be bmw m3 love that car

And hypercar may have to be the la Ferrari

[stoic ledge]

Best daily for me would be a 540i xDrive Touring, or a V60 T8 Polestar Engineered Very different cars but I'd be fine with either of them

[charred depot]

Peugeot 304D

[solemn inlet]

@upbeat hatch I was gonna install a new AC compressor myself as the clutch is cooked. Now that I look at how it needs to be done, I'm just gonna walk away lol 😬

Well you need to use the right oils and amounts, Got driers and shit

Like nah thanks

Slap it on the roof

[stoic ledge]

And then people are complaining about Renault's lol

[solemn inlet]

Like what the fuck

Then you got the the shitty 1VD-FTV with the starter under the intake lmfao

Does the F33A-FTV have two EGR coolers 🤔

300 series 3.3 btw

[civic spoke]

I guess we're entering the age of Ferrari getting V6's now.

[solemn inlet]

Idk why we aren't getting into inline 6's

Run smooth asf

[civic spoke]

V6 is a more compact engine. So it generally fits better into MR cars. I'm just happy that we're getting some cars with inline 6 engines.

And I guess the V6 engine is just a V8/V12 engine with fewer cylinders from Ferrari.

[solemn inlet]

https://youtu.be/LdWkQbHxcq4

I mean F33A-FTV is pretty sick how it gets 227kw at 700nm

[civic spoke]

I feel that inline 6 is a pretty good package for a single turbo.

Or what Mercedes does also works. Where they have a mild hybrid system.

I would honestly love that.

[solemn inlet]

I mean look at the barra

Just add a big turbo and you're making power

[civic spoke]

I kind of want to get a G20 M340i for that inline 6.

Or a M140i

[thorny dawn]

Seriously who puts a starter motor there! One i did last week

M140i is insane. Basically a M2 engine in a smaller shell.

They've stopped making the M140i now. You can only buy new a M135i.

[civic spoke]

An older 130i would be nice with the NA engine.

[thorny dawn]

Yeah terrible decision they've made. I actually like the look of the new GR86. The GT86 was always underpowered for what it was.

[civic spoke]

Yeah, it is.

255/268 hp depending on the model year for the 3 series.

[thorny dawn]

The older 123D was a pretty mental engine. Loads of tuning left in the engine. I did one that ran circles around a standard 330d.

[civic spoke]

190 kw = 255 hp

[thorny dawn]

The 335d is just bonkers. Difficult to get grip and once tuned they shit the diff.

I've not tuned one yet. I would imagine they're insane. Although not sure why anyone would need to tune it haha

Mental torque figures on them.

Although not as mental as the V10 TDI Touareg.

The R50 version.... bonkers. Its the one Clarkson used in Top Gear to pull the Boeing 747 haha.

Never actually seen one of them in person yet

[charred depot]

Door sag gone

I need to take the door off for some welding but thats for another day

[civic spoke]

My first thought was...
"Door sag is the least of your problems..."

[charred depot]

As my dad would say. Stills gets me from a to b.

I dont think any of my dads car have had an owner after

[terse raptor]

it depends how you feel about cars lol

i’m thinking about taking one of them for a drive today

[charred depot]

only off the road since 2013

[eager grove]

They did a V12 Q7 diesel as well

[deep zealot]

Holy shit

That’s a lot of rust god damn

It’s probably brittle as hell

[charred depot]

its one of the best UK 305s : )

[deep zealot]

Wouldn’t that be a safety concern

[charred depot]

just the door

there being only like 30 on road is irrelevant

[deep zealot]

i see

[charred depot]

I need to rip out the carpet for a few soft spots on the floor, and the hole in the boot and weld the passenger A pillar

A friends one half the bottom of his doors are missing, the wind noise at motorway speeds is bliss.

[last sandal]

My top hinge is being held by jb weld

[dense shard]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/86357103c6773000fb6c58c7a722c029/fdb30d5efa5b51bd-38/s1280x1920/0ea058c034a34c1d21617a0801e7d56a2788cd69.jpg

[dense shard]

Probably a Lamborghini 350 GT

Their first car was front engined

[wispy cloak]

Lamborgenie

[civic spoke]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CctRBBGFhpc/

[thorny dawn]

Its not a light bar you need. its a lift kit and some serious suspension component upgrades

How can they class that as a road

[civic spoke]

You could use a Volvo V90 Cross Country.

[thorny dawn]

I'd take the extra 15 minutes and avoid shaking my cars to bits personally haha

or buy a fking hilux haha

[dusk ocean]

Time to swap to summer wheels but I am so lazy and don't feel like it

[dusk ocean]

So close

Ahhhh

[grizzled crypt]

My car goes brrrrr

[dusk ocean]

@grizzled crypt more like whirrrrrr

[grizzled crypt]

yeaaaaaa maaaaaan

What batteries you runninng?

[dusk ocean]

Spectrum 6s

[grizzled crypt]

Sheeesh nice

3s go brrrr

car is light so it’s ok lol

[dusk ocean]

Yay, 6s is a little ridiculous

[grizzled crypt]

how fast have you gone?

[grizzled crypt]

Oh yea 100% LOL

[dusk ocean]

I have larger pinion I'm both Mojave and Kraton

Kraton is prob 70ish

[grizzled crypt]

sheeeesh

i think I’ve hit 45-50ish

I’m on stock gearing

[grizzled crypt]

so I still need to figure it out

[dusk ocean]

Need srsbsns motor fan

[grizzled crypt]

hmm

Much stronk

[grizzled crypt]

you like traxxas or nah?

[grizzled crypt]

Bruh 💀

Rip

[dusk ocean]

Yah have xmaxx also

[grizzled crypt]

ooo nice

my nieghbor has one

They’re huge lol

[dusk ocean]

Unbreakable

Bro

[grizzled crypt]

oh yea so stronk

he destroyed the tires

Traxxas tires are so wack LOL

[dusk ocean]

That's a 1/10 nitro

Oh yeah we murder tires

[grizzled crypt]

Yea the kraton is humongous amogus

[grizzled crypt]

Proline trencher 😩

I legit just bought some for the snow

And it did alright

[grizzled crypt]

Jesus how many do you have 😂

[dusk ocean]

We got a bunch

[grizzled crypt]

That’s awesome

i only have one

it’s my first one actually

Like proper hobby grade

Do you have any recommendations for gearing

I wanna get higher top speed, but also not lose to much off the line

[dusk ocean]

You have to consider the motor KV tire size etc etc

There are good calculators out there but really you probably want to follow what other people do you don't want to overheat the motor or esc

[grizzled crypt]

Yea I don’t have any coolers rn

I’ll probably do some research when I head back into my local hobby shop

Need to make some repairs anyway

I broke my rear suspension arm lol

And my camber links

[dusk ocean]

If you haven't already check out Kevin Talbot on YouTube he does some pretty fun stuff we've actually made his videos part of our night time routine for my three year old

[grizzled crypt]

oh nice lol, I’ve seen some of his stuff idk it’s not super informative tho LOL

[dusk ocean]

For the suspension arm avoid the desire to go aluminum the plastic is so much better aluminum while stronger cracks and bends the plastic has more forgiveness in it except for in cold weather where the plastic will snap

[grizzled crypt]

It’s fun tho

[grizzled crypt]

Yea I’ve learned this hard way 😂

[dusk ocean]

No it's not informative but it's kind of fun to watch him bash around the different models to get a general feeling for their durability

[grizzled crypt]

This exactly

[dusk ocean]

He's a huge Traxxas fan

[grizzled crypt]

I bought aluminum steering knuckles, and I bent 1 about 6 months into using them, then it bent my toe link cuz I kept using it

So yea I’m def getting some plastic ones 😂

[grizzled crypt]

Yea

[dusk ocean]

I will do aluminum hubs by vivaton

Vitavon

[grizzled crypt]

Are those good?

They won’t rip the wheel rim?

[dusk ocean]

Not the hex part

Um..

[grizzled crypt]

Wha happen

[dusk ocean]

Bigger bearings

[grizzled crypt]

POG

[dusk ocean]

If you cook a wheel bearing in a plastic hub assembly the bearing gets so hot it kind of melts the plastic hub and the new bearing won't really fit very well

So I just go aluminum CNC hub assemblies with the larger bearings

[grizzled crypt]

Ohhh

well yea I guess that makes sense

Only think is that for the rustler

The bearing is inside the steering knuckle

and I would take durability over material integrity as the front doesn’t get power anyway

[dusk ocean]

Yeah that's my steering knuckle you see

[grizzled crypt]

Forsure, I have some extra rear axle carriers

That are aluminum

I have some rpm ones rn

[dusk ocean]

Yah rpm not bad, here is rears

[grizzled crypt]

Dang

So bulky

Much stronk

Are you running belted tires?

[fathom socket]

I have one above my computer desk

[wispy cloak]

I have a nitro stampede that I never use because it's tuned bad and I'm too lazy to get it tuned again

[dusk ocean]

Nitro is tough

[obsidian magnet]

I went through 4 3.3 traxxas nitro engines in my slayer 4x4 and then gave up and switched to brushless

and that was only because the only place I could buy nitro fuel closed down

did a few things to it but It was running an 8S with some mamba motor and esc

steel spur and also upgraded the diffs

sadly its sitting back at my parents house and ive since moved out

oh I didnt convert the nitro to brushless btw I just bought a 4x4 vxl

but It ripped offroad

had to get new stronger steering servos too cause the regular traxxas ones died

[vernal basin]

do any of you guys live in germany

by any chance

[wispy cloak]

I also just don't mess with RC stuff much anymore because I do real cars now

And I can only afford so much

[bitter compass]

I guess i do, but im often not the biggest help

[vernal basin]

can i ask you something

does germany have a lot of like tesla charging station

and tesla service centers

[bitter compass]

Tesla chargers are not that common but normal ev charging stations are quite common

Like the southern border has no tesla stuff at all around munich and along the major highways are a couple and I can't say how it is in the other states

[stoic ledge]

There's a website which has every Tesla Supercharger/Service Station/...

https://www.tesla.com/en_eu/findus

[prime valve]

oh scammer boi land

[stoic ledge]

[civic spoke]

Tesla have service centers?

[stoic ledge]

They claim they do

"Service"

[charred depot]

basically an audi

[obsidian magnet]

I get my wheels for my e46 today ive been waiting since friday, delays suck

I had to miss work today to sign for them

mainly cause I live in a shady area and dont trust anyone here

[ember bobcat]

do i get a stage 1 tune for my car, or do i upgrade my cpu to a intel 12th gen (up from an i5 8400)?

hard decision for me

[bronze widget]

do you really need the extra power in your car?

if i were you I would get the pc upgrade

[ember bobcat]

it also increases gas mileage by a considerable amount

[bronze widget]

ooh thats good in these times

get the tune then it will pay itself off

[wispy cloak]

What car

And is it a custom tune or just a chip

[ember bobcat]

my mercedes cls

its not a custom tune but you do need to ship them your ECU

[prime valve]

is a 2 l 4 cylinder a good choice for a car that weighs 1.7t ?

[civic spoke]

Sure.

[civic spoke]

But displacement and cylinder count doesn't tell the whole story.

[prime valve]

it seems like a lot of weight to be moved around by a 4 cylinder

[civic spoke]

That's what the current 5 series touring does.

Doesn't really seem to struggle.

[prime valve]

doesnt it have a hybrid system ?

[civic spoke]

Mild hybrid. But it doesn't really give you much of any power.

And I was wrong. It was 1,800 kg for it.

[prime valve]

I mean for longevity it doesnt look too good

[civic spoke]

Why not?

As I said. Displacement and cylinder count doesn't tell the whole story.

[prime valve]

Im looking at the audi c7 2017 and 2018 models. 2.0 Diesel or 3.0 Diesel

[civic spoke]

Those are usually pretty alright.

[prime valve]

Yeah they seem pretty good but idk which engine will last longer

[civic spoke]

The one that was maintained better.

[charred depot]

My french car has an electrical fault

Not really important but needs done for the mot

Tell tales on the dash for lights dont light up and i know atleast high beam is required ss my saab had a similar issue

[fathom socket]

My electrical issue is that my indicator randomly speeds up and down

[prime valve]

Typical french car

[pearl tiger]

my italian car has electronical fault too

[stoic ledge]

Loose contact on the bulb, probably in the headlight. Or one of the bulbs is dying

[charred depot]

305 biggr

I prefer cars with lower bonnet lines like the other two

[bronze widget]

automobillenwhoopsiedaisy

[prime valve]

alfa ?

[pearl tiger]

fiat but close 😄

[prime valve]

Fiat 500?

[pearl tiger]

Stilo

tiny car but big pipe 😄

[charred depot]

did you spray paint it black

I seem to remember it being blue

[pearl tiger]

my seat was blue

[cunning plinth]

https://i.redd.it/i9ql5k78t9v81.gif

[fathom socket]

Already cleaned all light light bulbs and it keeps doinng that. Idk why, but even if it's on the right side it goes away before I manage to get out.

[wispy cloak]

It could be a bad ground

[grizzled crypt]

Lol I plan on doing the same 😂

NB miata is best car

[obsidian magnet]

They arrived and feel great, now I need to install my coilovers

[fathom socket]

Wish I had a new bmw lol

My sisters boyfriends rallying BMW or something

[vernal basin]

@upbeat hatchmate i just wanna say thank you so much for your help on my final's projects. i hope i get decent grades

dang bro your help was a lifesaver

not gonna lie

now i can have decent grades i hope

thank you so much

the world needs more people like you for real

[fathom socket]

MY windshield cracked out of nowhere.

[wispy cloak]

Rip

You didn't have any rock chips?

[fathom socket]

nope

it's just suddenly a big crack line appeared from under the weather seal

[stoic ledge]

[midnight sequoia]

Question for you guys. I don't know a ton about cars, so I thought I'd ask a group that does. Lol

With how much he's needing to spend on gas, I'm trying to convince my grandpa to at least consider trading in his current car for either a fully electric or plug-in hybrid vehicle, but I'm not sure what we should be looking at

His current car is a 2017 Ford Escape SE with about 148k kilometres, and from what I can find, its trade-in value could be anywhere between $14k and $33k CAD according to Carfax. Assuming the lower end, and based on what he's spending on gas (around $300/month, but sometimes as high as $400, depending on gas prices), he should be able to afford something in the $35-45k CAD range

So, my question is this. What vehicle(s) should we be looking at?

I think his requirements would be:

• a crossover/SUV no smaller than his current Escape
• plug-in hybrid would probably be the preferred route so he doesn't need to worry about running out of charge in the middle of nowhere (realistically, this shouldn't actually be an issue, but it's one reason he doesn't really trust fully electric vehicles)
• AWD would be preferred (it's nice to have during Alberta winters), but not necessary
• I believe he would prefer to stick with Ford, but would consider other brands as well. We have a decent selection of dealerships in our town, so we're not really limited by that. We have most (if not all) of the major companies, and if we go into the city, there are more options as well
• for a PHEV, I'd say a minimum electric range of 55-60km would be ideal. His usual drive to work is about 17km each way, and we're also about that far from town in the other direction, so that should be enough for a trip to and from work, and a trip to and from town in the same day without needing to switch to gas, assuming he plugs in while at work

I was recently looking at the 2022 Ford Escape SE Plug-In Hybrid, since it's the closest thing to what he currently has, but I'm honestly just not sure what's out there for similar-sized electric or PHEV crossovers/SUVs

[stoic ledge]

Trade-in.. you're probably on the lower end yes, due to the miles. 33k almost gets you a new one

Escape PHEV, I assume it has the same engine as the Kuga PHEV in Europe (2.5L)? If so, that's actually a great car, and quite a good value (atleast it is here). Don't think it's AWD to, just FWD...

AWD PHEV limit's the options...

Just on the top of my head that I know are also available in Canada:

• Toyota RAV4 Prime

Some models in Europe of which you maybe can check if they're also available in Canada:

• BMW X1/X2 xDrive25e

Apparently not available in Canada, but you might better check yourself:

• Hyundai Santa Fe & Tucson 1.6T PHEV 4WD
• Jeep Compass 4XE
• Kia Sorento & Sportage 1.6T PHEV 4WD

Those are what I can come up with right now, but maybe I've forgot something

But, how many miles does he max a day? Otherwise an EV might still be the right solution. The Mustang Mach-E might fit great, and as the Premium AWD LR version has quite a nice range but $78,540 CAD might be over budget 😅

But yeah, the Escape PHEV is also a great solution. He just won't have AWD. But the range is sufficient to do 17km to and from work combined easily

But maybe better, go to the Ford dealership near you and let him experience both the PHEV Escape and BEV Mustang

If he wants give up a Ford and AWD, the Bolt EV might also be a great option which would fit within budget. It's actually quite a nice car

But yeah, just get him to drive both drivetrains, and then let him choose

[midnight sequoia]

Like I said, I'm definitely assuming the lower end of the value. Lol. That's just the range Carfax gave me

Yeah, the Escape PHEV is FWD only. AWD isn't a requirement, just a nice to have (and even then, mostly just in the winter)

• The RAV4 is definitely an option. I'll add it to the list of possibilities
• Looks like we have X1s and X2s here, but only the gas versions. We have the X3 PHEV, but that's almost definitely out of our price range. My grandpa also doesn't like BMW. Lol. My brother has one (not sure what model), and it's had constant issues, and fixing it hasn't been cheap
• I am seeing those Tucson and Santa Fe models. I'll add them to the list
• I'm not seeing any PHEV Compass models here
• Looks like we have Sorento PHEVs, but not Sportages

The Mustang would be cool, but that's definitely out of the potential budget... Lol

For the Bolt, I think even the EUV version is just slightly too small, but I'll definitely add it to the list

Thanks for the recommendations. Now, I just need to convince him to at least consider doing it. Lol

[stoic ledge]

Oh yeah apparently the Hyundai/Kia's are there, but searching it from here redirected me to the US pages, where they don't have it

Sorento and Santa Fe are maybe a tad larger than the Escape, but not too much.

Maybe the Santa Fe might be preferred over the Tucson tho, as it has a more traditional interior with physical HVAC controls etc. Looks like there's a 2023 waiting list tho 😅But it looks like it'll fit withing the expected budget (2022 SANTA FE Preferred Plug-in Hybrid AWD $42,629.92)

Sorento is similar sized to the Santa Fe, just the Kia version of it. Sportage is apparently not available as a PHEV... the Niro is but that's slightly smaller, and also FWD. Sorento PHEV is apparently more than the Santa Fe? (2022 Sorento PHEV EX+
$50,695.00)

2022 RAV4 Prime SE AWD $44,990.

So yeah, if he want AWD and PHEV, I'd suggest looking at:

• RAV4 Prive (also very fast lol)
• Santa Fe PHEV
• Sorento PHEV

Only PHEV (FWD):

• Ford Escape PHEV. Perfect for him as it's a fine car, and it's still a Ford

BEV (FWD):

• Bolt (EUV). Same car underneath iirc

Ok no the Hyundai price is before tax apparently, while the Kia price includes tax?

2022 SANTA FE Preferred Plug-in Hybrid AWD:
$48,171.81 with tax
So still slightly less than the PHEV Sorento

Personally I'd say the Santa Fe and Sorento are nicer cars to be in than the RAV4? But that's just personal

Just trick him in saying you're buying a new car and you want him to come along, and then bamboozle him

[midnight sequoia]

Thanks. I'll definitely keep all of that in mind.

Also, I missed the question about max miles in a day. At the absolute minimum, it's about 35km every day (just him going to work and back). Days I work would add about another 64km (16km each way to drop me off and pick me up, since I can't drive yet. 28, and I was only able to get my learner's license last year...), and another 32km if we need to get groceries. So I'd say around 130-140km max in a day. Average day is more like 70-80

[midnight sequoia]

Not really an option, since like I just mentioned, I don't have my driver's license yet... Also, I can't afford a new car... Lol

[stoic ledge]

PHEV won't get you all those km's on electric, but can easily cut the fuel bill in half. Maybe even more if he can recharge it between trips

[stoic ledge]

OOF sad 😛

140km max a day is easily achievable on any modern EV btw

[midnight sequoia]

He can definitely plug in between trips. At least a few hours while he's at work, and anytime he's at home

I know. Lol. He just doesn't really trust fully electric vehicles

[stoic ledge]

Idk what the charging speeds in Canada are, but within a few hours it's possible to fill it up almost back to 100% lol

So yeah with a PHEV he could do almost all the kms on EV power

[midnight sequoia]

I'm not sure either. Standard outlets are 120v, but I'm not sure what we could get with a dedicated charger

[stoic ledge]

Also heavily depends on the current, and how many phases. And the on-board charger of the car ofc

I don't know the chargers on the cars by heart lol

here it's common to have a 3-phase 16A 230V wallbox if you get an (PH)EV, which is ~11kW

But most PHEV's don't have a 3-phase onboard charger

Apparently a standard outlet is 120V 12A? Yeah that's not too fast lol, 1.44kW...

A RAV4 can take up to 240V and 32A apparently?

Not sure, but that's also something to keep in mind

With 240V and 32A, you can charge it fully in 2.5hr. 240V 16A takes 4.5hr.

[midnight sequoia]

Thanks for all the info

[timber oar]

what has transpired such that you were just able to get your learners permit last year at that age

[midnight sequoia]

Never really had the spare money to do it

[timber oar]

fair

i was gonna say it must be something like that or a medical reason

ive been driving for 4 years and im 20

[stoic ledge]

Imagine being allowed to drive a car at 16

[lime pumice]

what?

[stoic ledge]

What?

[civic spoke]

What?

[midnight sequoia]

14 with a learner's, 16 with a driver's here

Minimum 1 year of having a learner's

[stoic ledge]

You can start having lessons here at 16.5, pass an exam from 17 but can then only drive with specific persons on a "instructor pass", and then from 18 you can drive alone

[midnight sequoia]

I've never heard of that. What country are you in? I know you mentioned you are in Europe earlier

[stoic ledge]

Also: getting your license before 18 makes you a "new driver" for 7 years, getting your license after 18 makes you a "new driver" for 5 years Which makes 0 sense at all

[stoic ledge]

🇳🇱 (The Netherlands)

Every European country basically does it different, but one thing is still the same: 18 is the lowest age you can drive alone

[midnight sequoia]

Yeah, different provinces are slightly different here as well. I know they're all similar though

[stoic ledge]

I have my license almost 6 years now, but as I got it before I turned 18 I'm still considered a new/young driver

[bitter compass]

Actually there are exceptions for that over here where you can drive alone with 17 but gl getting those

[stoic ledge]

But that's then Germany exclusive, you can't drive in NL then for example

[bitter compass]

Yes

It only counts for getting to work

Like if you leave school you're 16/17 and some rural area are so badly connected with public transport that you can actually request that if you need it to get to work

[pearl tiger]

its direct way to school or work

[bitter compass]

Its a really niche exception that is extremely limited

[stoic ledge]

Germany also has these things

[pearl tiger]

ohgod

moving roadblocks

well not that bad like 45kmh cars

[bitter compass]

Idk what's the point of thise

[pearl tiger]

better than bike or moped

or mofa

[stoic ledge]

First time I saw them, I was like wtf

[bitter compass]

Like i don't like the 500 and that makes it worse

[pearl tiger]

fuck fiat in general 😄

[stoic ledge]

Seat

[bitter compass]

That is even worse

Rip Spanish polo

[stoic ledge]

Fabia

Czech Polo

[bitter compass]

I hate this

I want to unsee thus

[civic spoke]

Oh, speaking of rare-ish cars.

[bitter compass]

All of those

[civic spoke]

I saw a Smart Roadster yesterday.

[stoic ledge]

0.7 Turbo

[bitter compass]

I still don't see what the smart Roadster is supposed to be

Ye but

[civic spoke]

No but's.

[bitter compass]

Why get that if you could get a Miata

[civic spoke]

Miata too big.

[bitter compass]

And the rear is hideous

Was talking about the smart but i don't like the looks of older seats too 👀

[stoic ledge]

Just get an 06 Toledo, best rear

[dusk ocean]

lol?

That car looks like it has a growth

[stoic ledge]

Exactly

[bitter compass]

My up has more hp that that stupid smart, its 70kg heavier tho 👀

[stoic ledge]

Thet basically took an Altea... And give it a "trunk"

[dusk ocean]

these look like half baked minivans

[bitter compass]

They are half baked minivans

[stoic ledge]

They were considered minivans yes

[dusk ocean]

how do i get back to #cars

[stoic ledge]

Alt+F4 gets you there

[dusk ocean]

what even is this anymore

[bitter compass]

The vw version literally is called golf sportsvan

[stoic ledge]

Back then was Golf Plus

[dusk ocean]

[X] Unsubscribe

[bitter compass]

But they've been replaced by stupid small suvs

[stoic ledge]

MPV > SUV

[bitter compass]

Because i guess suvs cost more but look more rugged

And have less space

[stoic ledge]

Exactly

That's why MPV's are superior

[bitter compass]

And people want that for some reason

If i want a crossover

I'd get a fiat panda 4x4

👀

[stoic ledge]

Well that's just cool and quirky

[bitter compass]

Or that derpy skoda

[dusk ocean]

Can I confess something

I love cars, have had tons

[stoic ledge]

Yeti?

[dusk ocean]

but all these euro hatchback things...

they're all derp to me

There should be one euro hatch - the mk2 GTI

maybe the MK4 GTI as well

and then the rest should be deleted

[stoic ledge]

My parents have a minivan with back hinged doors

[dusk ocean]

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN

lol

[stoic ledge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/375461451403624471/963909152080535553/3122948_4.jpg

[dusk ocean]

I am OK with that

but the REST OF THE CAR looks like a toe

[bitter compass]

The frick is that abomination GM

[dusk ocean]

if you cut that B pillar out

tons of cargo space

I had this issue recently

[stoic ledge]

Ford did that

[dusk ocean]

STAHP

[dusk ocean]

the area under my eyes but above my upper teeth just winced

[bitter compass]

Whats that Peugeot with the sliding front doors?

[civic spoke]

What about this?

[bitter compass]

Why does that look normal

[stoic ledge]

807? The big one?

[dusk ocean]

omg

get that grill off

I almost didn't get this monitor home

[stoic ledge]

Or just a Partner Tepee? That's the only Peugeots I can think of with a sliding door

[bitter compass]

Its a small one

[dusk ocean]

I brought my F30 3 series because I figured I'd get it thru the trunk w/ the seats down

[civic spoke]

This reminds me how fun it was to get Weber grill home.

[dusk ocean]

I did not consider the fact that the angle of approach would be ... impossible

the box was still on the trunk sill thing while approaching the seat pass thru

so the box was at a like 7 deg angle and wouldn't go

How big of an asshole I looked while stuffing a $2k monitor in the back of a 335i

[bitter compass]

Peugeot 1007

[civic spoke]

Brother had bought a Weber EX4, I think it was.
And the car was just big enough to fit in the VW Tiguan.

[bitter compass]

Found it

[stoic ledge]

It's actually amazing, I love it How practical it is .. and it actually drives well

[dusk ocean]

@civic spoke I have a Weber Summit 620

when I bought it they were like "this needs to be delivered"

I was like nah I can get it

"No you can't"

[stoic ledge]

Oof yes almost forgot about it

[viscid atlas]

This thing is being sold, and it's killing me to drive past it every day

Aaaaaa

[dusk ocean]

LOL

[charred depot]

homes around here have a 60amp supply 🗿

[bitter compass]

Nothing will break my hatred against pre french opel, and now they're just Peugeots

[civic spoke]

I remember the Weber EX4 coming on a EU pallet. So 120x80 cm big.

[stoic ledge]

We have 3x25A

[stoic ledge]

Just like my hatred to VW

[dusk ocean]

@civic spoke what that in murican

[stoic ledge]

[charred depot]

the entire say street cant even use 60A at the same time

you wont be doing much fast charging here

[dusk ocean]

@charred depot I have a 50A circuit to my welder...

[civic spoke]

Uhh. Like 4 x 2.66 feet. Ish.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah but at half the voltage

[charred depot]

have 3 phase 415v at the unit for weldin

[dusk ocean]

@stoic ledge right but that's still srsbsns

actually no

thats 50A @ 240v

This mah gurl

[stoic ledge]

A connection like that would literally costs me like €500/year more

[civic spoke]

Pallets and trucks are built to place three pallets side-by-side-by-side here. And have a 2 inch gap when you're done.

[dusk ocean]

20A 120v on the right

[charred depot]

this is the extension we have for our welder

[dusk ocean]

Mine is just 240v @ 50A, its on 6 gauge romex

[civic spoke]

That's just a normal construction extension cable.

[dusk ocean]

What is

[charred depot]

I mean its a standard connector ofcourse

[civic spoke]

Yeah.

[dusk ocean]

sorry - where, my pic?

[civic spoke]

This. Here.

[dusk ocean]

ah

Yeah in the US we'd use twistlok

[charred depot]

have construction 110 for power tools aswell

probably a good thing as the place is always flooded

[dusk ocean]

Here's standard house wire vs. my welder

(US of course)

Lets me run 180 - 220A Miller Diversion/Syncrowave

[charred depot]

id imagine atleast 10% of the temporary power injection points in the UK have my hands on them

The saab may be OMGHGF so thats probably going off the road soon

hopefully the 305 goes on the road before then else ill have to drive a dreaded modern car maybe

[stoic ledge]

Why is the Saab going off the road?

[charred depot]

head gasket failure

[stoic ledge]

OOF F

Can't you fix it?

[charred depot]

I can but not quick enough that I wont need another car in the meantime

[stoic ledge]

[charred depot]

id like to get the 305 an MOT then transfer the saab insurance to it. remove the engine from the saab

maybe put the other engine in

putting the other engine in basically means I cant sell the car though

unless I find another deluded lunatic

[stoic ledge]

[charred depot]

Having to contact people with aol email addresses to get rear springs for my car is the most fun part of having an obscure car!

[stoic ledge]

[charred depot]

they are used but im getting them to clean up and keep as spares

[stoic ledge]

Can't get a donor car with all the parts?

[charred depot]

Have a donor but its an estate

finding a donor 305 now would likely require finding it in a field

The donor estate is my friends old car from like 2017

its amazing how quickly they can go downhill

[stoic ledge]

That doesn't look too bad yes

[charred depot]

it got used alot in winter and paid the price

structure behind the front wings g o n e

rear arches g o n e

[stoic ledge]

Oof sad

[worn robin]

What kinda cars might these be

[analog musk]

Honda

[stoic ledge]

Corvette

[worn robin]

yeye

they come covered up on the rail cars to protect the paint
looks like its dressed up for halloween as a ghost

[fathom socket]

C8 corvette

[worn robin]

nah
Corvette Stingray 2022

wait

that is the C8 isnt it?

okay yea i see my bad

[fathom socket]

Yea the new gen of corvette is called the c8

Last gen was c7

[worn robin]

tfw too much money for me to worry about names kek. its a corvette to me

i recall the convertible we received today was about 130 grand?

[fathom socket]

dang

[worn robin]

this one yours?

[fathom socket]

No it’s just one I saw when I went on a trip

[worn robin]

ah, they are nice looking cars honestly.
a much better design than previously in my opinion

gives it more of a sporty look

[fathom socket]

Yea and there good for the price

130 grand tho

[worn robin]

thats also cad
but still

130 grand for a car?
would rather get an 80g Mach E with 10 less horsepower and its an EV

[fathom socket]

for 130k

I would get a 1st gen r8

I really like the first gen r8s

[worn robin]

its funny

either you can have a brand new truck for around 100 grand

or save a little extra and get a sports car

the pricing on vehicles is insane lately
Malibus sit around 35-40k
Elantras are i believe the cheapest sedan option sitting at usually 25k or so
Hondas sit around 28-30k atm

These are just various prices ive seen on the cars at work on their price sheet

a lot of cars though dont even have a listed price when they are transported to us

[fathom socket]

40k for a Malibu 💀

[worn robin]

im gonna sit comfortable with my new to me 2016 honda civic ex-t for 6 years at 27k lmao

[fathom socket]

Car prices are crazy

My dads truck is selling for like 5-10k more than he paid for it

[dense shard]

I got an outback for 12k

Only 40000 miles

[sturdy coral]

aaand on my dad's vehicle 18th birthday the crankshaft pulley/harmonic balancer needs replacement

[stoic ledge]

@vocal mural https://www.ladepeche.fr/2022/04/24/sa-peugeot-307-va-atteindre-1-million-de-kilometres-il-recherche-les-ouvriers-de-lusine-pour-les-remercier-10255974.php

Peugeot 307 with 1M km's 😛

[fathom socket]

I bet mine is close to that.

it has suspiciously low amount of km for the history of the car

also windshield cracked even more

💀

[stoic ledge]

F that's not good

[fathom socket]

replacing windshield is gonna be expensive

at least it's not gonna be scratched

[stoic ledge]

Not covered in insurance ?

[mint mountain]

i am here waiting for a 11k part to ship

[worn robin]

I just sold a Nissan Altima for 200$ that had some 400k kilometres on it and I thought that was absurd. A fuckin milly?

[worn robin]

I’m here waiting for Honda to gimme my bumper

I never was a Honda fan but I love this car. Everything’s just an upgrade from my Ford Five Hundred

[mint mountain]

i am here waiting for a supercharger to ship

[brittle niche]

Spotted a Cadillac ELR today.

[stoic ledge]

I always thought those were quite cool

[charred depot]

c15 to the moon

i do not condone such lunacy

[fathom socket]

I have questions

[fathom socket]

I hope they left the handbrake on

[sharp shadow]

vrom

[warm sparrow]

nooooo why is the holly C15 so fcked 😢

[charred depot]

They have the same rear axle as 305 estate and vans so they get killed off for that

[warm sparrow]

it's not too rusty, if you can make it drive it's worth some money

a nice one is like 4k now 🤣

in a really good shape it can be much more

[charred depot]

I like them but 305's are cooler

[warm sparrow]

yes

[stoic ledge]

The 3.0 I6 GR Supra will be available with a manual

[charred depot]

whats that parking brake 😤

howmah supposed to do mad skids with that

[stoic ledge]

Did you ram it

[stoic ledge]

Yeah kind of sad, maybe if we complain had enough they'll also make an old skool handbrake version

[charred depot]

x

I think the yaris GR was normal handbrake

remember seeing a video of someone doing handbrake assisted slides

[stoic ledge]

Could be yes

[worn robin]

Lmao. Nah train derailment and this was on a rail car

[charred depot]

atleast the headlights are alright, they probably cost like $1200 each

modern car things

[worn robin]

Whole things just gettin scrapped

[charred depot]

bit of a waste, I imagine it will get vultured to save other cars though

[worn robin]

Type R we also got a few days ago. Thing sounded nice

[worn robin]

Most likely will have some stuff salvaged

[stoic ledge]

Might be worth selling it with a salvage title in the current market... but it's probably worth more in parts

[worn robin]

It’s whatever Dodge decides to do with it. Till then it’s been sitting in our yard for like 2 months ish.

[charred depot]

I mean structurally it looks relatively unfucked, some orangutan with a hammer could make use of it

[stoic ledge]

Oof yikes

The longer it sits... it won't get any better

[worn robin]

Nope it won’t. We also had a bunch of Fords that were messed up, couple Mach Es and few F150s

[stoic ledge]

[charred depot]

tis but a scratch

[worn robin]

This Mach E got lucky. Just the side a bit dented up

[stoic ledge]

Imagine ordering a brand new car, waiting for it for 12 months... and then this happens

[charred depot]

being 1st owner is for wackjobs anyway :^)

[worn robin]

Fuck honestly imagine that.

Doesn’t help our lot is always full with some cars sitting for a couple months because dealers have other priority cars lol

[charred depot]

I imagine its in insurance company limbo or something

well see yes our train did derail but if you had of had the car in plastic wrap there would have been no issue!

[stoic ledge]

LOL

[wispy cloak]

I just paid $85 for 20 gallons of gas

[stoic ledge]

Wow that's crazy cheap

[wispy cloak]

Not for around here

Costco and Sam's upped their prices almost $0.20/gal

[stoic ledge]

It has gotten cheaper here now... reguilar now costs like €2.029/liter, so 20 US gal would be ~160USD

[cyan vector]

is Jaguar 2018 Xj a good car even today ?

[wispy cloak]

[west flax]

its 38k € a good price for a fully equipped Audi A4 AVANT S-Line

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[stoic ledge]

Depends on the year/engine/mileage/...

[vocal mural]

I think brand new

[cunning plinth]

https://www.fiaformulae.com/en/news/2022/april/gen3-launch-in-monaco

[stoic ledge]

Then it's dirt cheap

[worn robin]

damn thats rough

1.60$ CAD per litre is what i pay for regular

so glad the civic has a small tank
46.9 litres(nice) is like 75$ to fill for me

[stoic ledge]

That's at a cheap station, more expensive stations is up to €2.25+

And that's after a temporary tax reduction

~75CAD for a tank would be less than what it would cost normally even

[worn robin]

god
conversion of 2.25 euro to CAD is 3.03
couldnt imagine paying 140$ to fill my car

thats if i was paying your prices with my money

[pearl tiger]

i pay around 120€ for full load

[stoic ledge]

Yeah so that's basically what we have to pay

[vocal mural]

At a cheap in Limburg

In Gelderland it is cheap at €1,93

[stoic ledge]

Ah it it? Large weird difference

[charred depot]

went over a temporary bridge a little too fast, suprised I still have an oil pan

[stoic ledge]

[wispy cloak]

Oil is for chumps

[charred depot]

what if we touched wing mirrors on the B934 ❤️

[timber oar]

Wing mirrors?

[charred depot]

yes

no touchy but close

[sudden pecan]

i had another car smack mine closed

[charred depot]

it looks wrong without the plate

maybe if the chrome wasnt missing

[sudden pecan]

https://cdn.rage.dev/A5vXDBhMQP

mazda on mazda violence

[charred depot]

the 305 mirrors dont fold in so if anyone hits them there is zero give

they are very stubby though, almost square and close to the body

[timber oar]

You mean side view mirrors?

[stoic ledge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Side-view_mirror

[charred depot]

although for the most part figuratively obsolete most people here still say wing mirror

[carmine summit]

ive fixed worse

another 5th gen Ram 1500, got tboned with less than 20k on it

entire cab side, both doors, front fender, managed to just repair the bed side

[worn robin]

this thing doesnt even attempt to turn over any more lol

smh i said engine is dung eater tier

damn bot wouldnt let me say the p with a couple of Os after it

[sudden pecan]

rusted away

[fathom socket]

Eeem

Does still run?

[timber oar]

It's just in stealth mode

Some of the cloak isn't working ofc

[devout cedar]

I'll take it!

[deep zealot]

31 MPG when going WOT

[charred depot]

Bushings are for chumps

[dusk ocean]

@deep zealotThat's now how that works 😉

M2 Sport says you're hanging the gear and we have no idea what your throttle position but it's not WOT or that's not instantaneous MPG view 😛

[deep zealot]

yeah one sec

it was WOT but it’s the lag from the computer that showed 31

[dusk ocean]

I've got an F30 328, F30 340i, and several others, not getting 31 MPG WOT in any of them ahha

[deep zealot]

I know i’m just messing about

[dusk ocean]

yeah an average will take a while to fall

ok whew thought you were serious

Went to the office for the first time in like 3 yrs

[deep zealot]

sick rims

[dusk ocean]

Thanks

[deep zealot]

i’m still stock rims

they’re dirty as hell too

[dusk ocean]

Nice - yeah I went with bigger when I did the M Performance brakes

[deep zealot]

wanted new ones but i have 3 months left with this car so i couldnt be bothered

[dusk ocean]

I still have to put my M Sport kit on

I have a nice carbon lip for it and all

[timber oar]

Cool guages

[rotund cove]

I just heard the local r35 revving from my room where I am sitting right now

[stoic ledge]

Dacia

My grandpa's driving hadn't been good for it, rip license plate/bumper/grill/wheel covers/...

Refueled it for the first time this year, also put some air in the tires as the TPMS light was on

[charred depot]

ill pull you out... probably

[stoic ledge]

[robust sedge]

Found this TME Sweden/IPD exhaust for my 850 with 350k miles at a junkyard lol

[sudden pecan]

https://youtu.be/UO4kQPg92zY

average uk road

[charred depot]

looks decent where the mazda had initially stopped but guess he was frustrated by the crawl pace and went into the narrowing

[sudden pecan]

i guess he thought i was letting him pass but i was just slowing to avoid scratching anything

strange af road though it gets unreasonably narrow

[charred depot]

My home "village" is a bit chaotic due to the fact there isnt many driveways and it isnt bypassed

its part of the reason why I despise modern cars

[sudden pecan]

i couldn't imagine two range rovers trying to get past each other

[charred depot]

people in their range rovers and shite plowing down forcing cars to hold back where 2 sanely sized cars can pass by eachother doing 20mph unphased

if you buy an obscenely wide car you should be condemned to waiting forever

[sudden pecan]

agree

[charred depot]

I find it funny when people get a puncture and are like "the car is now completely immovable"

there is a junction like right here I could go into at 1mph but no

[sudden pecan]

reminds me of this https://www.instagram.com/reel/CbT8aEdIiRA/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=

[charred depot]

I like when you see this sorta thing happening and hold back then people overtake you

despair

[wispy cloak]

Look at this goofy little mower

[deep zealot]

You’d never believe me if I said this is a bigass family sedan

[fathom socket]

Imagine this. The year is 2050. Electric cars are booming. Instead of charging stations to charge your car. The road will charge it for you. It may sound full proof but they tires of the cars release kinetic energy using copper coils and thin batteries that are easy to fold, bend, and break without lithium spewing out. The roads will be covered with copper coils and a new alternative to asphalt

[deep zealot]

that would be way too expensive

the government doesn’t care that much

[charred depot]

wireless charging is grossly inefficient if thats what you are proposing

cars are environmentally bad regardless of their propulsion in a ideal world by 2050 they arent used for commuting etc

[deep zealot]

i mean technology can evolve

especially by 2050

but it wouldn’t change the fact it would be way to expensive to be realistic

[deep zealot]

And one nail on the road and the entire car goes kaboom

flexible batteries is possible

puncture proof batteries are not

[fathom socket]

It’s an interesting concept though

[deep zealot]

No doubt it is interesting

but if you want to be realistic it would be done on a much smaller scale

E.g. on a highway, the highway divider and the fence on the right contains skates that charge and guide the car as it moves

if a car needs to charge they can merge into those lanes and then it’s just autopilot, and then they can merge off when they’re done charging (or they’ll be forced off if they don’t merge off themself to avoid congestion)

[fathom socket]

Yeah I agree

I found this on YouTube by the way

https://youtu.be/VMXo827nt-Q

[deep zealot]

Interesting stuff

but i’m not buying an EV until it’s illegal

and when it’s illegal i’m moving somewhere it isn’t

[dense shard]

Here's a wild idea

A train

[charred terrace]

Train gang

[night current]

Dang, imagine the days where you can do a sub 2.5 second 0-60 pull in your Tesla and then recharge the 10% you lost without stopping. 🤯

[night current]

Cool concept though.

[elfin sedge]

ill find a loophole

[stoic ledge]

Making the entire road a wireless charger is crazy expensive, and also crazy inefficient

If we're going that route we can basically just create hydrogen from electricity

[junior wraith]

I don't know why I thought this channel would have cool car pictures. Ahhh what a miserable day.....

[bitter compass]

Great news

The dacia sandero is coming to britain

[crisp cedar]

Should I buy another r33 skyline?

[civic spoke]

Getting newer rims for my car. Upsizing from 16 inches, to 17.

[crisp cedar]

Nice

[civic spoke]

A set of used Style 304 rims from an X3.

[crisp cedar]

Nice

[fathom socket]

Hey guys. I once was asked with a question: "What costs more: oil in your car or freedom in your heart". I don't know the right answer. Can you guys please give me the right answer?

I know I know... it is stupid question. How can a car run on freedom, haha, what an idiot. So?

[charred depot]

grippy bois

[shut dust]

why are cars free on the facebook marketplace

😂

[civic spoke]

Because they might not be registered? Or it could just be to get more eyeballs on their ads? More hassle to sell it, than it's worth?

[charred depot]

whossit worth mister, offers pls

[shut dust]

so they like add surprise prices or smth

[fathom socket]

how much freedom per mile, bro?

I mean gasoline

The pistons can have some oil and carbon buildup, As a snack 🙂

[civic spoke]

Just need to replace the rubber on them.

[fathom socket]

I kind of want to downsize to 14 inchers

[civic spoke]

The 16 inch rims that I have really don't fit well on the car. These ones will have much better offset.

[fathom socket]

and I'm too broke to buy good 16 inch tyres

and the winter tyres are wearing quite fast

and I left my summer wheels in Poland

because I had no space

[civic spoke]

Orange being my current winter tires. Which sit pretty flush on the car.

195/65R15

[fathom socket]

I need something like this

[stoic ledge]

205/55R16 is one of the cheapest sizes?

[civic spoke]

That's what I have

[stoic ledge]

Yeah one of the most common sizes ever

[civic spoke]

The Pilot Sport 4 tire in that size is a cheap 1,044 kr per tire. Where as the Pilot Sport 5 is 1,213 kr per tire. So almost 20% more moolah.

[fathom socket]

I've paid like 2/5th for nice tires for my focus than shitty tires if that size

[ember bobcat]

washed the beenz

(its still dirty i suck at washing cars)

[civic spoke]

CLS 👀

[charred depot]

Tis a diesel

[copper oyster]

Anybody know if this is seriously problematic? I got a wet spot underneath the bimmer. I put some on my finger; surely enough it's oil

See red circle. This is between the front wheels of the car obv

I checked engine oil lvl on computer, says it's maxed so...

Should I worry?

[charred depot]

is this advanced humour, you own a BMW sir

[copper oyster]

It's like a 2014 wagon

2013

Somewhere around there

535i wagon

Lmao had to go outside and check

Idk I'm clueless with BMW. It's not exactly mine. I use it to get to work for now.

Hopefully I won't have sanded down the clutch too much by the time it may get asked for back ⚙️ 🔥

[charred depot]

to me its a non issue but my cars are old so its sort of a given

[copper oyster]

Fair enough. Alright I'll just keep an eye on the engine oil level I guess

Thanks!

[prime valve]

Always hated those wheels

[ember bobcat]

yea they are not staying

previous owner decided to spray paint them or plasti dip idk