cars

[plucky merlin]

not a digital screen either

[fathom socket]

an r50, not a classic one

[jovial mauve]

wacth out for @stoic ledge and Ged they hate mini's

[stoic ledge]

Nah the one from @fathom socket doesn't have the annoying LED headlights

[ruby cloak]

Have y'all seen the new Toyota Sequoia

[burnt solstice]

do i spot a

AUTOMATIC

you know automatic for long rides probably chill but i find shifting to be a part of driving a car, else its so boring

[eager grove]

Lol it’s a Sequoia

Who in their right mind

Would want to drive a gigantic, body on frame hybrid Toyota SUV with a manual

Especially when they’ve actually put a ten speed auto in it rather than a CVT

Not really sure what the point of a hybrid twin turbo V6 with 450 go that only gets 20mpg is, but I think the alternative is a V8 that gets like 17mpg so who knows

[carmine ridge]

thats a sequoia?

thats a nice interior

[eager grove]

Just had a very nerve wracking drive to the petrol station-0miles range the whole way

[ruby cloak]

New one just came out

This is the old exterior

And old interior

[fathom socket]

LEDs are fake lights, hate em

[stoic ledge]

Everything except the sun is fake lights

Although the modern Mini's basically have an artificial sun lol 😛

[stoic ledge]

It was time lol, old one was basically 15 years old

[ruby cloak]

Yeah old one was super dated

The new one looks really good tho. I love the new interior

[burnt solstice]

man the most annoying led headlights are from electric bycicles, old people have those things aimed at headlevel and its eye damagingly bright

Idk if i can post this here, but i just wanted to share my daily drive to school

[fathom socket]

I'm yet to see a bike with a light anywhere near as blinding as half the cars I see

[burnt solstice]

well true but some of those electric bikes have some bright ass leds

luckily my daily drive uses a lamp instead of led

the back is led

[stoic ledge]

Yeah e-bikes can have bright lights

[stoic ledge]

Hanway Raw 50 Caferacer

[burnt solstice]

friend of mine says if you upgrade it and make it run unlimited rpms it will easily do 90kmph

im running it stock to school though

[stoic ledge]

I don't mind people "tuning" them as long as they don't drive them like that through residential areas

How often I'm driving 50-55 and get overtaken from the right by a blue plated scooter without a helmet doing 70

[burnt solstice]

haha why is this too true

[fathom socket]

I found out why my heater broke in my 415K S10 a mouse chewed a wire

[burnt solstice]

i do use a helmet though

[fathom socket]

now I gotta replace that

damn you jerry

[stoic ledge]

Yeah required by law on a yellow plate/45km/h

[charred depot]

I honked at a bike before on a single track road because they were staring into my soul with their helmet light while we were negotiating past eachother

[burnt solstice]

when i go for my motorcycle license to ride big bikes i will also get some good gear with good protection. seen too many people just get hurt because they just buy a "biking" jacket but don't put any armor in it thats certified.

good boots and pants too

[pearl tiger]

most bikers need brain too

or common sense

[burnt solstice]

yeah, those big choppers with jeans and a leather jacket plus no helmet

[pearl tiger]

we have those young kiddos with their cross machines without db eater here

[burnt solstice]

oh loud exhausts you mean?

[pearl tiger]

yeah

dB Eater or dB Killer is it named?

[burnt solstice]

my brother has a exhaust thats barely within the limit of my country.

[burnt solstice]

muffler is also a term for it

[pearl tiger]

yeah in germany we call those things db killer which reduce the loudness. but those kids remove them and then those things are annoying loud

[burnt solstice]

yeah those crossers are annoying sound wise

https://youtu.be/Tx8UeQl81YA?t=188 sounds like this warm my heart though

not my brothers bike but it sounds a bit more open and louder then this

[chilly bridge]

people that do off roading in place of a land cruiser

idiots*

[eager grove]

I think it has some good off-roading tools (possibly like a crawl mode?) and a 10 speed in manual mode gives you a lot of options off roading

[steel mountain]

my dad's car makes a grinding noise when the wheel is turned anticlockwise (left)

[prime valve]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSpvLBzoAGg&ab_channel=DGNDrivingSchool

wtf is this

[fathom socket]

"driving exam"

[prime valve]

5 mins

dude i did my one and they didnt spare me a second

[fathom socket]

I've spent 1.5 hour on driving exam

[obsidian magnet]

one of his damn taillights went out

[solemn inlet]

Just another day with the shitbox

[fathom socket]

My original fuel pump has passed away today in my S10 after I fix the heater

Rest in peace fuel pump 2003 to 2022

So how much is it for one 😅

[obsidian magnet]

probably 300 range

[fathom socket]

<@&750150305383186585>

I think this is a scam

[fathom socket]

Man I don't understand why my alternator dies in July 28th of 2021 and my heat and now my fuel pump

I guess parts break when they are 18 years old

That's just normal fixes I hear about

[obsidian magnet]

I havent had heat in years lol

[charred depot]

couldnt even really drive here without heat

Unless you were going at it with a cloth while driving

[fathom socket]

Lmao

[dense shard]

Heat is a must in North Dakota.

[fathom socket]

still. could be worse

https://c.tenor.com/D_Osy0tcYYcAAAAM/caravan-stig.gif

[dense shard]

https://youtu.be/o7oZ-AQszEI

[steel mountain]

my birthday

[fathom socket]

Holy cow

[fathom socket]

Imagine passing safety inspection with that

[timber oar]

Lmao right?

[fathom socket]

Certainly wouldn't be getting onto the top gear test track leaderboard

[lapis skiff]

Fixed my diff

[carmine summit]

That's actually a thing people do with cross karts lol

use small car differentials (vw, miata etc.) with sprockets instead of the ring gear

just find a way to contain the oil for the spider gears and you're set

[fathom socket]

A rock on the road would kick up and end up there oof

[remote ridge]

Honestly I'm somewhat tempted to make a go kart using a full sized car engine and trans

I mean it would end up being more of a tube frame chassis car but it would be fun and a stupid fast drift missle

[fathom socket]

https://youtube.com/shorts/iID2W1Cyq84?feature=share

Owned my car for a week and put an exhaust on it lol

[timber oar]

that sounds pretty damn good 👌

[fathom socket]

Thanks, it’s settled in a bit too over time

[pulsar saffron]

can we talk about the new f1 pre season test being private like wtf

[dense shard]

F1 is still relevant?

Last I heard people were angry at Lewis Hamilton for something or another.

[civic spoke]

I might get myself a Yamaha motorcycle. I don't know. The MT-07 calls my name.

[steady crag]

bahrain session will still be broadcasted tho

[prime valve]

its a really nice bike

[steep tundra]

season ended

but there's still plenty to talk about

[fathom socket]

Haha money go brrrrrrrr

At least we'll get timing at end of day + prolly a fair few photos

[cunning plinth]

I'd like to see on there

[fathom socket]

I just cleaned up my puegeout 307

And it was so filthy fro previous owner

[fathom socket]

Old Toyota Celica

[fathom socket]

That's the spirit!

[stoic ledge]

F paint

[fathom socket]

Sweet!

[charred depot]

I smell 80's vauxhall

[fathom socket]

Oof

Well guys replacing the fuel pump was the hardest thing I ever did I shouldn't have filled it up full but didn't know the pump was gonna go out lol. Just replace a new one and I'm getting more power than before.

Saved $380 by fixing it myself

[cunning plinth]

Lance doesn't walk.

Lance Stroll(s).

[shadow mantle]

it ain’t much but it’s coming along

[dense shard]

It's only what

10k in parts?

On top of a clean XJ?

[shadow mantle]

probably about that lol

its pretty rust free besides the rockers

[dense shard]

That's normal

[shadow mantle]

starting to bubble so im gonna cut em out and replace them

[dense shard]

It's a Jeep

[shadow mantle]

floors and unibody look brand new

[dense shard]

My WJ has nice rusty rockers

But only 256k

[shadow mantle]

let me see if i can find a recent pic of my weekend car

[dense shard]

Noice

[shadow mantle]

75 nova custom

88k original miles, original paint and original interior. Hatchback with a 4 on the floor

pretty rare car, granted the 75-79 bodystyle isnt the most sought after

[dense shard]

Looks good

Summer car tho is a 2019 Corolla hatchback

Goal is to drive coast to coast at some point

And I can say with a straight face it's more rare than a Tesla

[reef lance]

found this early 1960’s bug with a herbie livery outside of ace hardware

[fathom socket]

aww :)

I would love to own one don't care what people think

[lofty compass]

If you mean jeep liberty those are good at being not good at off road

[dense shard]

No one said Liberty?

I've got the eternal 4.0 GC

[barren topaz]

Rate my hotwheel collection

[dense shard]

Unboxed, likely enjoyed, and organized

10/10

[fathom socket]

I need to do a better job on mine 😅or I can build a shelf for them soon.

[jovial mauve]

@stoic ledge audi might allready be leaving 😛

[stoic ledge]

Did something happen to it?

Or spotted something else?

[jovial mauve]

this

maybe

[stoic ledge]

R8 👀

[jovial mauve]

nah its a merc and a V8

🙌🏼

[stoic ledge]

[jovial mauve]

it came online here this week, dream car plus im pretty stable financially just did our kitchen etc so, just have to check a few things

trade in and insurance

[stoic ledge]

[vocal mural]

3L 6 cil

136kW

[civic spoke]

Since when is 2.75 liters, 3 liters?

Closer to 2.5, than it is 3 liters.

Model number even says that it's a 280. Meaning 2.8 liter.

[dense shard]

Yet displacement implies 2.7

[pearl tiger]

2,75 rounded is 2,8 and 2,8 is rounded 3,00 😛

[dense shard]

2746 should round down since it is closer to 2.7 than 2.8

[pearl tiger]

i only have 1368 :C

[stoic ledge]

1229 cm³

😎

[pearl tiger]

1368 on 4 cyl with 16 valves

[stoic ledge]

Same 😎 Also 4cyl 16v

[remote ridge]

1598 also part of 4cyl 16valve gang

[charred depot]

1985 and 1769

some people call the 1769 a 1.7 other places call it a 1.8

wack

[bitter compass]

Im can beat ya, 999

That barely leaves the garage lately...

[stoic ledge]

My grandpa can beat you: 898 cm³

🚀

[wispy cloak]

The dakota is going to stay here for a bit

[fathom socket]

Yeah I don't blame ya my truck hates snow as much as your truck does

I've only moved forward so a tree doesn't fall on it and crushed it

I used to have 1347 3 cylinder 16v

extra 4 valves for extra waste of fuel

But power

in a nutshell

I think valve got broken

Oof

now I have 2.0 16v

and somehow uses less fuel even if it's bigger car

1.8 16v focus mk1 vs Peugeot 307 sw 2.0 16v

Yeah that is weird

the 1.8 became a 3 cyl 1.35

[dense shard]

I'm just enjoying the fact the Jeep's engine is old enough to still have a cubic inch designation. All hail the AMC 242

[twin zephyr]

tf

[lapis skiff]

wonderful init

[languid igloo]

Why would your trucks not make it through the snow

[plucky merlin]

I'd assume either low ride height, bald tires, or broken 4 wheel drive

or, so rusty the snow will tear it apart

snow tore off the rearmost section of my tailpipe a few weeks ago

[charred depot]

My 305s exhaust middle section just ceased existence while it was parked in a barn

Theres was a little bit left at the clamp on each end

[wispy cloak]

Rwd, limited slip, tons of low end torque, and summer tires

And mine is lowered from the factory which could create an issue

[vocal mural]

Well, I will drive the Citroen C1 again on Tuesday

[wispy cloak]

I went to go measure the snow but failed

I need a yard stick

[charred depot]

Despair in a bag

[timber oar]

Those almost look like drum brake parts

[cerulean quail]

some body know what car is this

?

?

[dense shard]

Mercedes of some variety

[stoic ledge]

W140 S-Klasse

Der Kathedral

[charred depot]

I undertook someone today and they got sent into a hightened state of mald

was no one ahead for a mile and they get into a hissy fit flashing their high beams

need a rear camera

[stoic ledge]

Classic

[charred depot]

The speed I do on motorwahs is bang on 3000rpm

would have been a bit higher before cheapskate me put on bigger diameter tyres so id be on a common size

mind you I couldnt really do that speed on the old tyres as they werent balanced

[fathom socket]

meanwhile I do 4300 rpm

[prisma hull]

what does Zámbo Jimmy do here? xd

[remote ridge]

5krpm or bust

[prime valve]

What does a dorito engine make because it doesnt make torque?

[wooden wagon]

looking to get a new car, anyone willing to help me make a decent decision, i have a list i can throw at yall

[remote ridge]

High rpms and brap brap noises

[wispy cloak]

Ruh roh

Hopefully it doesn't freeze overnight because I'm not fixing it until tomorrow

[cunning plinth]

https://twitter.com/HaasF1Team/status/1489526674198781954

Haas F1 Team (@HaasF1Team)

It's nearly #VF22 time ⏰

#HaasF1

Twitter · Feb 4, 2022, 9:10 AM

[bitter compass]

Its gonna die before it does anything

[stiff burrow]

Definitely did not expect to see this in the driveway when I came home

[dense shard]

Nifty

[stiff burrow]

It’s more than “nifty”

Easily the coolest vehicle I’ve been in

[dense shard]

The more EV are released the more I worry about the weight of said EVs

[prime valve]

I mean they are flawless

nothing can break in a Dorito

[stoic ledge]

Didn't know they already released it

Very cool

3 wipers

[stiff burrow]

I didn’t notice that

But yes they are building them

Pretty close to my house actually

And it’s the 1000hp version

[civic girder]

they still make torque

just not in the lower half of the rpm range 😛

[civic girder]

only if its a reman renesis or a poorly tuned turbo

[pulsar saffron]

found this today

[flint sable]

how huge is it

[stiff burrow]

Comically large

[flint sable]

how much wider than say, a raptor

[stiff burrow]

Internet says anywhere from 7-0 inches wider

It’s actually not too long

About as long as a normal crew cab short bed truck

But it’s tall

Really tall

It’s the same size as a TRX or raptor I guess

So think of it as an EV version of those

@flint sable

[flint sable]

fair

my dad has a 4 door raptor

1st gen

[stiff burrow]

Nice

[stoic ledge]

I think they're only starting with the top spec now

Did a family member buy one?

[tranquil drum]

rip drivetribr

[stiff burrow]

Probably

And no. My dad is a GM exec so he was able to borrow one for a little while

[exotic turtle]

dorito engines are the best

high rpm's, horsepower, and small size

[civic spoke]

All of their power is at higher RPM, though. And they drink fuel like little else. Not to mention that they are maintenance heavy.

[exotic turtle]

not really

bsfc is about the same as an ls

ls1 is .4 to .5 bsfc

rotary is about .4 to .425 bsfc

bsfc is brake specific fuel consumption. the amount of fuel you use to make power

[civic spoke]

Wankel does have a place though, even in today's harsh market.

[exotic turtle]

its not as efficient, but its not the god awful engine people think it is

especially when tuned properly. a lot of the guys you see shooting massive fireballs are running very very rich

[civic spoke]

It would be a wonderful range extender for an EV.

[stoic ledge]

OOF nice

[opaque mulch]

Blinker Fluid-HAND HELD VERSION-Hilarious Gag Gift-Stocking Stuffer-Car Prank-8 oz EMPTY Bottle https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06ZXSKDZG/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_57FQB6CC5Q24V8KFW6TF

[fathom socket]

So my puegeout 307sw has automatic wipers w

It started raining and I was waiting in the car while it was off

And they turned on and I've freaked out

[fathom socket]

And I just got oil warning on a turn

[stoic ledge]

<@&750150305383186585>

[charred depot]

hate hitting those bumps offcenter

[pearl tiger]

so my neighbour upgraded from a e36 316i compact to a 2011' 135i twinturbo with 306hp with ac schnitzer bodykit

nice upgrade i would say

[cobalt locust]

Does it look better in person or not

[stiff burrow]

It does

[edgy crescent]

wtf?

that's a hell of an upgrade

[pearl tiger]

Well was his dream to get one

[jovial mauve]

i like the car, i like the colour just those green stripes are not really doing it for me 😛

[burnt solstice]

They look better irl

[timber oar]

Lmao dorito engine xDxD

Thats a good one

[viscid atlas]

@burnt solstice scrape nation

I used to own a rocket bunny S13 (technically still own it) even that thing was higher than this

[fathom socket]

what happened to the polestar 2 review video? did it get scrapped?

[prime valve]

The brap brap brap brap brap dorito

[cunning plinth]

https://racingnews365.com/horner-secures-mercedes-factory-tour-in-charity-auction

hahahahahaha I've lost it

[fathom socket]

Legend

[haughty ridge]

Top tier shitpost from Horner

[dense shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjBbHCXLIAw Nissan not updating obsessively may have paid off.

[lament kestrel]

😮‍💨🤤

[primal tusk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU7QG1nOW4Y They can't keep getting away with this Learning Experience

[cunning plinth]

yep

[jovial mauve]

you ever go to meetings?

[plucky merlin]

Mechanic told me my power steering rack is broken

Gotta be cap

She feels fine

[burnt solstice]

Sometimes

But with covid they often are illegal

[jovial mauve]

yeah but if everyone acts normal its ok

like Vasim Nijmgen few weeks back was pretty nice

[fathom socket]

I think my mechanic told me that, but it was the steering pump.

[worn robin]

hmmmmm

I think. I think it’s a cop truck guys idk I can’t tell

Almost like it says police responder

[jovial mauve]

toiny

[fathom socket]

French

[stoic ledge]

"French"

Toyota with a Citroen badge on it

New Alfa

[dense shard]

That actually looks good

[stoic ledge]

As far as CUV's go, it doesn't look too bad

Same platform as the Jeep Compass

Also as PHEV like the Compass 4XE

I expected the same drivetrain

[charred depot]

must raise driver to get them out of the headlight glare problem all the manufacturers created

[cunning plinth]

@fathom socket

[fathom socket]

Yo

[cunning plinth]

Hopefully Mick can challenge teams like Alpha Tauri

on his way

Oh, and I hope Seb has a good year

[fathom socket]

Yeah Haas need to get some points going because even Giovinazzi got points lol

[cunning plinth]

Even Kubica

and he was only in one race LMAO

But Alfa had a semi decent lower midfield car

Haas was trash

like seconds behind the next car in each lap

[fathom socket]

Haas were so bad

[cunning plinth]

Mick pushed that car so much

It couldn't handle it lol

[fathom socket]

I remember everyone was saying they should've just signed veterans like Hulkenberg instead of Mick and Nikita

[cunning plinth]

Nah

Nikita is funding Mick, basically

that's good enough for me

And Mick gets to also put in hours in an F1 environment before racing with Ferrari

[fathom socket]

Nikita's dad is kinda funding the entire team lol, even the car's branding

[cunning plinth]

Which hopefully happens very soon

[cunning plinth]

yeah

[fathom socket]

At least it's Uralkali which is legit and not Rich Energy

[cunning plinth]

LMAO

[vague lava]

What's the opinion of Lexus with their grill cover front end

[jovial mauve]

i dont like it

i like the new concept seda ntho

[dense shard]

Finally a good looking Alfa

[stoic ledge]

It's a CUV, I don't like CUV's... but as far as CUV's go, it's alright

But that sedan is 👌

[cunning plinth]

[short flame]

@fresh dragon this too

[eager grove]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Wellthatsucks/comments/snovn7/i_got_my_car_back_from_a_collision_repair_shop_a/

[stoic ledge]

Nice

[charred depot]

unsurprising a car with tinted rear lights is coming out of a collision repair shop

[stoic ledge]

Also very surprising to see those on a Golf GTI

I mean, you never see that

[pearl tiger]

i had tinted rears on my ibiza.. but upgraded to LED

so its sexy look but safety cuz brighter led

[charred depot]

💀

[wispy cloak]

For me tinted taillights just make the car look cheap

But whatever floats your boat

[fathom socket]

Personally its a bit chintzy

But there's worse you can do ig

[dense shard]

Looks good to me

[sweet token]

it looks like a amg with bumper of jaguar

[cunning plinth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAUGzXYQ7LQ

<t:1644421500:R>

[haughty ridge]

I'm curious to see what will in be place of Honda on the engine cover and wing

[cunning plinth]

Didn't Helmut say Honda is back?

https://twitter.com/McLarenF1/status/1491359016928391169

McLaren (@McLarenF1)

Signed on the dotted line. ✍️🇬🇧

@LandoNorris has committed to a new four-year agreement with McLaren Racing through to the end of 2025!

Twitter · Feb 9, 2022, 10:31 AM

Norris is really going all out on McLaren, huh

Charles is a Ferrari driver now

Lando is the face of McLaren

Dietrich Mateschitz is a gigachad tho

So much motorsport for a juice company

[haughty ridge]

Really? On hondaf1’s insta page I saw a good bye post

[cunning plinth]

https://www.grandprix247.com/2022/01/28/marko-honda-to-continue-engine-supply-to-red-bull/

Man

OEMs are leaving F1 because of electric

and the FIA/ABB regulations on Formula E are terrible

[haughty ridge]

Yeah honda's staying in F1, only their name is leaving

Cause the shareholders were not happy with honda being in F1, with Honda trying to create a green image

[flint pollen]

Mercedes 190e 2.6 I6 160hp

[cunning plinth]

happening with many companies

Anyways

: Samsung event
: RB18 launch

[jovial mauve]

@stoic ledge the plan is kaput 😦

insurance is murdering me

also the fuel and rest value, i drive to much for it i think but iom not gonna get a fast diesel

[stoic ledge]

Diesel good

[jovial mauve]

yes i like fast diesel

but not gonna pay like 300 per month road taxes

[stoic ledge]

Classic

[jovial mauve]

GF still searching for new car

so lets focus on that

[stoic ledge]

Focus

[charred depot]

My road tax is high at £280 a year on both my cars

I dont get it though. People doing 100,000 miles a year in their shiny car only pay £30/y

[jovial mauve]

280 A YEAR

[charred depot]

Whereas my cars which will get used a tenth of that are £280/y

[jovial mauve]

i would sign up for that

i pay 1200 per year

meanwhile 3 ton EV's pay 0 funny

[charred depot]

Over here its basically an emissions tax rather than road repairs

But im polluting less than 100,000 mile bisnisman dave yet paying 10 times as much

It makes pre 2001 cars undesirable but scrapping good cars is great for the environment cmon guys buy new stuff more new

[jovial mauve]

i dont know for sure but i think here its more a weight+emission tax @stoic ledge prolly knows

i mean old diesels polute way more then new ones

[dense shard]

Eh old cars tend to be recycled

[charred depot]

So we should just scrap them

[dense shard]

Steel is great at being recycled

[charred depot]

Recycled lol

[dense shard]

Steel absolutely is. Plastic less so.

[charred depot]

Yeah..

[dense shard]

I imagine there's a bit of model T in all modern cars today

[charred depot]

You still have the production emissions cost of new cars

[dense shard]

Offset by lower emissions

[charred depot]

Even if you recover 100% of the material

Not enough to justify scrapping

[dense shard]

If the car is in good shape, perhaps

[charred depot]

The best situation is to use what we have for as long as feasible

Theres 2001 cars with 50k miles on them that will do fine for someone doing 3000 miles a year

Much better than a brand new car being produced for them

[dense shard]

Much better in what way?

[charred depot]

Environmental

[dense shard]

They are producing more emissions than newer cars tho

More so than say an EV

[charred depot]

Ok and a new ev costs many miles of an old petrol to produce

Many many miles

[dense shard]

Sure. But we're talking environment

Not cost/mile

[stoic ledge]

Road tax is based on fuel type + weight yes

[charred depot]

Producing cars is environmentally damaging lmao

Bruh

[dense shard]

Less than you think

[stoic ledge]

Emissions tax on purchase is based on fuel type + CO2 emissions yes

[charred depot]

Ill get numbers later im on my break

[dense shard]

In the US an EV will offset emissions cost within 5 years depending on state

Going of what engineering explained did.

[charred depot]

Was that 3000 miles a year

[dense shard]

Don't remember

[charred depot]

Yeah dont think so

[dense shard]

Didn't think so what?

[charred depot]

It was probably based off a mileage number even higher than what i do

[dense shard]

The average American drives nearly 10k miles a year

[stoic ledge]

Probably based on the average mileage per year of a car

So ~10k miles?

[dense shard]

3000 is freaking low

[stoic ledge]

15k km?

[charred depot]

And plenty of people do it in the uk

[dense shard]

That's ridiculously low in the US

[charred depot]

Got to go

[jovial mauve]

just drive big engine screw the emission big engine goes brrrr

[stoic ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/evacomics-money-printer-money-printing-printing-money-print-money-gif-23263021

Me trying to keep up with the tax I need to pay for a big engine

[jovial mauve]

if you cant afford it dont do it right 😛

[stoic ledge]

Yes

So go buy an EV

Except if you're a head of the coutry, because then it doesn't matter and you'll buy a LWD 7er or something

Direct quote: "EVs are unpracticle"

So good enough for the plebian people, not good enough for those who run the country

[jovial mauve]

i dont want a EV

at least not yet

[stoic ledge]

Same, current EVs are unappealing, and nothing affordable

[fathom socket]

Imagine forcing a population where half of the people drive sub 2000 euro cars

[drowsy surge]

honder

[jovial mauve]

i want to enjoy muh petrol for as long as i can

[cunning plinth]

Oracle RBR

[civic spoke]

I wouldn't mind hybrids. EV for takeoff. And then ICE for driving.

[cunning plinth]

https://twitter.com/redbullracing/status/1491447869848821761?s=21

Oracle Red Bull Racing (@redbullracing)

Introducing the lean, mean, #RB18 🔥 #F1

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The Rb18 looks 🔥

[charred depot]

I like to argue that the most environmentally friendly option is to save a old econobox at the gates of a scrapyard that no one else wants

Production emissions are effectively moot at that point

[wispy cloak]

Gas is so expensive

$3.65 a gallon for regular

[charred depot]

Europeans

[wispy cloak]

at least you have economical cars

$3.65 a gallon with 11mpg is death

[charred depot]

Im sure economical cars exist

[wispy cloak]

they do

i just dont have them

my most economical car is something like 24 mpg combined

and it takes premium

[charred depot]

What you us gets for being suv horny

[wispy cloak]

it's a sedan

[charred depot]

Bruh how

The 11mpg?

[wispy cloak]

that's my truck

[charred depot]

Ah yeah

[wispy cloak]

my least economical vehicle gets around 1-2 mpg

[charred depot]

My most economical vehicle is from the 80's

Environmentally terrible

Mmm raw diesel fumes

Hard for a diesel to get bad mpg regardless of age

My worst is the saab which is petrol and gets 33 UK mpg which is probably around 25 us

Thats without stopping though

[stoic ledge]

Laughs in 9.5USD/gal

[charred depot]

Putting in a newer engine which will have better mpg tho

[stoic ledge]

Isn't it the other way around?

No wait

No you're correct

Mi bad

[charred depot]

I hope i can get 42mpg

Its not very aerodynamic though

I wonder how much the big front numberplate affects ev's

Probably tiny but

[stoic ledge]

Inb4 sticker license plate

Also lighter

Lighter = more efficient 👀

[haughty ridge]

The RB18 looks exactly like the RB has in the last 5-6 years

[cunning plinth]

livery wise, yes

Not design tho

Best 2022 car I've seen yet

[haughty ridge]

But now we know that Oracle is their new title sponsor

[cunning plinth]

VF22 did not set a high bar tho haha

[cunning plinth]

yep

[haughty ridge]

True haha, but they used the show car didn't they?

[cunning plinth]

I personally think

they didnt use a car

They use a tracked 3D model

No interaction whatsoever

Shadows looked fake

Again, IMO

no verifiable source

[haughty ridge]

Yeah maybe, didn't watch it. I was in class at the time

[eager grove]

Man Reddit is so stupid about markups

Yes it sucks

But why would a dealer sell at msrp to a scalper? If the market determines the price of something, a dealer is supposed to on principal leave that margin for someone else?

And all this refuse them allocation stuff seems vanishingly unlikely as it’s largely illegal as it’s considered anti competitive in a lot of states where the dealer lobby has had their way for decades

[stoic ledge]

No real mark ups here

But yeah if it was their business, they'd do the same

But if somebody else does it, they're bad for doing it

[brittle niche]

Ford did try to put an embargo on selling the GT and it worked to some extent but it still drove prices up anyway. I fear that if other companies try it, used car prices will go even higher. There's no real good way to combat this unfortunate situation.

[eager grove]

Yeah. Like… it sucks, but what’s the alternative?

Supply and demand is insane, so prices are crazy. Either dealers markup or resellers do

[cunning plinth]

This just in: Yeah. It was the sample car.

https://twitter.com/ScarbsTech/status/1491448841693925377?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1491448841693925377|twgr^|twcon^s1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2Fsohp5v%3Fresponsive%3Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dtrue

Craig Scarborough (@ScarbsTech)

Oh dear, we've been tango'd, they have literally unveiled the F1 showcar! Not a RB18. This isn't even up to the current regs!
@scarbstech livestream is over
If you want analysis I covered it yesterday.
https://t.co/zO5drGZ66J

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[haughty ridge]

Yeah no surprise, no team will reveal their car this early

[stoic ledge]

When the RAM Revolution might hit the market faster than the Cybertruck

[stoic ledge]

[dense shard]

Tesla design chief says 'there's nothing left to look forward to’ from Apple – which is making a car

https://flip.it/wsLwE4

Coming from a company whose product stack is getting increasingly stale.

[bitter compass]

My yearly interested in statistics actually surprised me once, VW up has become the 5th most sold car in Germany in 2021 and nearly doubled from 2020 with a 10 year old model

Also the dislike for the new golf shows

Still double of all other cars tho

[fathom socket]

Most people buy skoda City go here

[stoic ledge]

Maybe as it's a more simple car while others were effected by chip shortages? Also, the Citigo and Mii are discontinued, so more capacity for the up!

[stoic ledge]

I thought the Citigo was discontinued?

[fathom socket]

Idk

All I see are citigo

But people here buy used cars mostly

[bitter compass]

I thought the mii is gone ev version only

[stoic ledge]

They did, but I think those are also discontinued

Iirc

Could be wrong

[fathom socket]

But still most people around me drive cars destined to scrapyard

[stoic ledge]

Mii and Citigo is gone from the website, atleast here

[fathom socket]

I've seen like 2 WV ups

But those were electric

It makes 0 economic sense to buy electric cars here

[bitter compass]

Im honest the up became too expensive for what is is since its original release

[stoic ledge]

Definitely, it's 16k here

[bitter compass]

Like 15k €

[stoic ledge]

For the gas version*

Aygo also 16k

[bitter compass]

Ev/gti is like 20k

[fathom socket]

I think dacia duster, sandero and fiat tipo are like most popular here new

Stupid auto cucumber

[stoic ledge]

Probably, as those are the best value cars

Soon the Jogger also probably

[fathom socket]

Tipo is like the most popular car for companies

[stoic ledge]

Wasn't the Sandero in the top 3 best selling cars of Europe?

[fathom socket]

I think so

I mean it's cheapest car you can buy

That isn't tata

[stoic ledge]

And it's actually not a bad car

So I totally understand why people go for it

[bitter compass]

Great news

Dacia is just value

Not the dream car if anyone

But value

[stoic ledge]

I've checked, here it's:
€17740 regular version
€20340 R-Line
€23890 GTI
E-up! No price, sold out

[bitter compass]

Germany is:
14130€ base
Nope im not gonna list all the 7 other lines
16760€ natural gas
19635€ gti
EV is hiding too

But it was usually about the same as the gti

[stoic ledge]

Ah you have more trims We only have base, R-Line, GTI

I 'member when the top spec up! wasn't even 15k

Now the base model is more

[bitter compass]

I honestly wonder what happened to the TSI model

[stoic ledge]

No Euro6d? Idk

Usually the reason why an engine gets killed

E-up! was 26k here when it was for sale

But we have a great replacement: the Dacia Spring

17k

[bitter compass]

Im just wondering how long they will keep the same generation of the up running... Like i expect it to be the first car that transitions to ev without an combustion counterpart... But how long will they keep them around

[stoic ledge]

Tbh I don't think there will be a new replacement

Almost any brand is killing off the segment as it's a low margin, high development cost project

There'll rather be a smaller ID.2 (Polo sized) first

Maybe if they can shrink the same platform more, they can make an ID.1 or something, but unlikely

[bitter compass]

Idk vw does that over and over again

[stoic ledge]

Idk what the German price difference is between the Polo and up!

Don't expect it to be large

[bitter compass]

Lupo, fox (which was like from south america import), up

[stoic ledge]

Oof still 5k, damn

Expected it to be less

[bitter compass]

I think its always 5k steps

[stoic ledge]

Or they must've discontinued the base model Polo

[stoic ledge]

Likely, our base price also went up 2k

[bitter compass]

Up 15k, polo 20k, golf 28k used to be 26k but alright vw, passat 33k

Ok maybe the 5k steps dont work

[stoic ledge]

Lupo was also quite expensive, Fox was a flop, up-trio did alright. But so did the Citybug (C1/Aygo/108/107), they discontinued it (ok new Aygo but only because they could further shrink the Yaris)

[stoic ledge]

Passat for 33k

That gets us a base Golf Wagon, 1.0TSI with steelies

Passat starts at 45k here

[bitter compass]

Golf wagon is 1k cheaper than the hatch

Because mote space less money

[stoic ledge]

Probably starting at a lower trim level

[bitter compass]

Also applies for caddy

[stoic ledge]

Caddy Life or whatever it's called isn't even on the list here

[bitter compass]

If you get the golf r as wagon its 2k more expensive

[stoic ledge]

The Multivan dropped nearly 40k in price here with the new model

[bitter compass]

Pricing is nonsense in that company

[fathom socket]

I keep fucking hitting my head when I go out from my peugeot 307

[stoic ledge]

2021 Multivan 2.0 TDI 150hp; €92k
2022 Multivan 1.4 eHybrid: €53k

[fathom socket]

the car is taller than my focus, but for some reason it happens

[stoic ledge]

I was just wondering, it's quite tall

[fathom socket]

for that price you could buy so many shitboxes

[stoic ledge]

Very true

Also, filled with all passengers, I wouldn't want to take the 1.4 eHybrid on a long trip. As soon as the PHEV battery dies... Poor 1.4 TSI

[fathom socket]

meanwhile 4 people taking long road trips with 0.8 cars here

[stoic ledge]

2.2t empty, filled with 7 people + luggage... Almost 3t, on a 1.4TSI

[stoic ledge]

Yeah but they don't weigh 2.2t

[fathom socket]

FSO Matiz

[bitter compass]

To add on that mess the octavia is 4k cheaper than the normal golf and its genuinely a better car than its brother

[fathom socket]

A friend used go to work to NL with that

[stoic ledge]

Ok no max weight = 2750kg, it already weighs 2210kg... Leaving 740kg for people and their stuff. Full tank of fuel is 70L ~ 70kg... Leaving 670kg. /7 = average weight of 95kg including luggage per person, that's not a lot

[stoic ledge]

Yeah tbh for every VW there's basically a better option at any of the other companies nowadays

The purpose of Cupra is also still unknown to me

[fathom socket]

I had to do raodtrips in renault traffic 1.6 dCi 95 KM with 6 people and like 200-250 km of baggage

To NL or Belgium

[stoic ledge]

The diesel can take it

[bitter compass]

I thought cupra just sold a spanish gti called leon, then they sold hybrids and now seat with a different badge and cool concept cars

[fathom socket]

it was slow AF and also a rental

[stoic ledge]

Yeah well if they only made fast versions... Sure. But the cool version of the Formentor (VZ5, never even sold here) had a limited run of 7000 units, and now it's just regular 1.5 TSI's and PHEV's? So just s regular seat. Cupra Born was the Seat el-Born, just slapped a Cupra badge on it so they have a model

It kinda defeats the purpose to me

[stoic ledge]

Oh definitely, but it can handle it. The 1.4TSI I'm not so sure Also 400kg lighter

[bitter compass]

More statistics:
Zoe isn't best selling ev anymore, as it turns out 30k of the 50k vw ups are electric and with those numbers being 2nd to model 3 and only 5k cars behind

[jovial mauve]

UP GTI is cool tho

[bitter compass]

Model 3 best selling sedan tho

[bitter compass]

Lupo GTI was supposedly better

[stoic ledge]

All Model 3 Dutchies wanted were delivered in 2019, since then sales dropped by 90%

[jovial mauve]

lupo is ugly af tho 😛

[jovial mauve]

i wonder what kind of people buy a new UP GTI for like 30k

[stoic ledge]

🚀

[jovial mauve]

30k can get you more car then a UP GTI

[stoic ledge]

None

[bitter compass]

Now the Zoe's best selling EV in Germany advertisements look stupid it being #4

[stoic ledge]

Zoe never really sold that well here So I was amazed by how many Zoe's I spotted while on vacation in Bayeren

[bitter compass]

But vw also looks stupid both their purpose built EVs being outsold by their low effort ev from 2013

[stoic ledge]

Wait what

[bitter compass]

E-up selling 3 time the amount of the id 4

😂

[stoic ledge]

Ah not the case here

They're probably sending the entire Enyaq and ID.4 production to here

ID.3 sold poorly tho, probably as they has thousands of them left in stock from 2020

[bitter compass]

Bmw i3 sells as much as the id4

[jovial mauve]

did the ID series not suck like ass?

[bitter compass]

Tbh all newer vw cars suffer

[jovial mauve]

yeah few co workers got the ID 3/5 and i think they all going back haha

[stoic ledge]

Don't think the ID.5 got delivered yet

[jovial mauve]

whats the bigger one then?

4?

[stoic ledge]

Anyway all company cars so who cares if they rarely work

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[jovial mauve]

ah okay fair enough i saw we have the small and bigger ones

[stoic ledge]

ID.5 is the "coupe" ID.4

"Coupe" cross-overs/SUV's 🤮

Cross-overs/SUV's are already 🤮

[jovial mauve]

i quite like some of them

[stoic ledge]

Imagine making a coupe version of those

[jovial mauve]

eh now i dont know

GLA is that a coupe not rly right

[stoic ledge]

No

GLC and GLE have a coupe version

Both hideous

[jovial mauve]

X6

[stoic ledge]

I'd rather have the X5

[jovial mauve]

same i ment the X6 is ugly af 😛

[stoic ledge]

AH

Yes

Agreed 🤣

[jovial mauve]

its a kamper car

if you get the X6 M in white

[stoic ledge]

Just like this lol

Both hideous

Kamper

Whatever

[bitter compass]

SUVs are hmmm, like damn i worked for a cable car company and we used a octavia 4x4 to get up the mountains and if that didn't do it anymore we took like every sensible person a hilux

[stoic ledge]

All of the above

Well yeah but that's using them for their intended purpose

[jovial mauve]

this is my guilty pleasure car i must admit

[stoic ledge]

I don't need an SUV to drive the kids to school because the road has 2 speedbumps on them

[charred depot]

90% of suvs are just 2wd trash which only has a bit of extra ground clearance going for it

[stoic ledge]

Just get the non-coupe

[stoic ledge]

Yes

FWD 3-cyl muesli cars

[charred depot]

My donk 305 is probably more capable than a crashqui

[stoic ledge]

Africa proved us old Peugeots can do anything

[charred depot]

I love passing range rovers on single track roads where they will not go on the grass at all

Saab bouncing around in the ruts going past them

[bitter compass]

Mu car is gunna get dirty if i do this

[jovial mauve]

i mean i dont like to drive over the gras either 😛

[charred depot]

Do you drive a range rover

[jovial mauve]

no but i do drive a 4x4 😛

but we dont really have singel track roads here

unless you go to like the Forrest or smthng

[bitter compass]

Eh, on some roads there haven't got any passing spaces and sometimes you gotta get your golf into the grass

Don't recommend doing that with a lorry tho, you gonna get stuck for sure

[jovial mauve]

you know what pisses me of the most where ilive

some roads dont have the central striping, but some people are so clueless where to drive then

the road to my house its quite narrow, you can pass eachother but not have alot of wiggle room but the road is not striped

[bitter compass]

Like no road except the big ones got that around here

But where i live different problem

[jovial mauve]

people drive like this i swear

they leave like so much space between the curb and the car like what

[bitter compass]

Speedlimit: 100, what is ridiculous but you can drive 80 easily, people drive up there 30 because scary mountain pass

[stoic ledge]

Oh God that's what I hate the most, them driving those raised CUV's/SUV's but the don't dear to drive them through the roadside grass for one bit

[jovial mauve]

oooooh same people who drive 50 on the higway because it is dark

[stoic ledge]

Especially the CUVs/SUVs

Ohno my car is wide, must drive even wider. Can't go through the grass nooo, better push that low car in the bushes

[jovial mauve]

i my street i have by far the biggest car, but people drive towards me with there UP or Aygo like its a god damn truck

[stoic ledge]

[jovial mauve]

i need a dashcam so i could record it its always on the same road as well

[stoic ledge]

Don't really have that many up/Aygo's here, we're sensible 😛

[jovial mauve]

there is also like a super tight bend here wich is shit design

[stoic ledge]

Our town has a shit design right getting in to the town... Basically 1 car wide for 200m while having wide ass sidewalks

Luckily the sidewalk is flush with the road, so you just drive over the sidewalk

https://youtu.be/8gm8dh7eYs8

Also people not looking forward... Car coming from the front, I wait (because I have the obstruction)... Hmm better overtake

https://youtu.be/TcYEipSl2Z8

Or do this

[jovial mauve]

so this ios the first cornor that is toxic to pass with 2 cars but people always just push in

[stoic ledge]

https://youtu.be/_w2mbuPeUZ4

Same but higher speed

[jovial mauve]

ooh this would piss me off so much haha

[bitter compass]

Hmm

[jovial mauve]

this turn is also fun

[bitter compass]

We just got some roads that i avoid using because of navigation systems in cars

[jovial mauve]

like it may look wide but its pretty tight

[bitter compass]

They're small connection roads between villages that are nice shortcuts that aren't shown as ways to somewhere on a sign but thanks to everyone having navigation now are suggested as shortest route and are now filled with people that can't handle narrow roads

You sometimes see people sitting in their cars and not understand how to handle the tractor because they think there is no space

[stoic ledge]

Great design yes

[stoic ledge]

Oh yeah all the time

[charred depot]

We have alot of wide single tracks where 2 sanely widthed cars can get by closely

But all these monglets with 2 meter wide cars cause issues

It also seems the drivers inability to judge their width is proportional to the width of the car

1.6m gang

Friends in the 1.5m gang very jealous

[stoic ledge]

1.5m 👀

That's extremely narrow lol

[bitter compass]

What car is 1.5 meters wide

[charred depot]

Vauxhall chevette saloon, high end of 1.5

[stoic ledge]

Renault Twizy is even less

[charred depot]

Missing 1 mirror as a bonus

[bitter compass]

Twizzy doesn't count as car i think

[charred depot]

Chevette actually is proportionally nice

[stoic ledge]

I think the 80kmh version is tbh

[charred depot]

Renault twizzy vs tesla head on

[stoic ledge]

80km/h versions of the Twizy have a "big" car type license plate here

[bitter compass]

Idk where quadricycle or whatever it is called ends and car starts

[stoic ledge]

Quadricycle is basically everything with 4 wheels no?

Idk 😛

Odd tho, Twizy's appear to not have a front license plate

Which is required for a car

[bitter compass]

I think its handled like a Quad

[pearl tiger]

in germany we call that "verkehrsbehinderung"

[stoic ledge]

A.k.a traffic obstruction?

[jovial mauve]

my car according to spec is 187,4 wide

[cunning plinth]

https://twitter.com/AstonMartinF1/status/1491777869877551114?s=20&t=SXbZCLdhhzNolu2AxSvMYg

Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant F1 Team (@AstonMartinF1)

The #AMR22 has arrived.

#WeClimbTogether https://t.co/JR1mP42E7w

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Twitter · Feb 10, 2022, 2:15 PM

REAL CAR

Finally a non-model car reveal

[charred depot]

Get narrow smh

[stiff burrow]

my car is so small (by american standards) it fits in parking spaces with like a foot on each side lol

[stoic ledge]

Meanwhile it probably would barely fit in a spot here

[stiff burrow]

probably

apparently it is 181.4 cm wide

i need to put my dashcam back up, it fell off due to the cold and i havent put it back up yet

[stoic ledge]

OOF

And that's why you use a glued mount 😉

[devout escarp]

I swear its a contest between auto makers here in the states to make the largest cars possible

[stiff burrow]

That’s what people buy

I don’t have an opinion one way or another

[stoic ledge]

Also, the next generation car must be atleast equally comfortable, spacious etc, preferably even a tad better. With the modern safety requirements, the only solution (*) is to make cars larger

[charred depot]

My mazda 2 gets used for shopping so has about 500 mega doordings

[haughty ridge]

The inlets on the sidepods are square, it looks kinda weird

[charred depot]

Small parking spaces

Saab is strongk and has bumpstrips so is free of them

[cunning plinth]

yeah

Interesting approach either way

[haughty ridge]

Have they confirmed it's the real car?

Otherwise it might just be one idea they ultimately didn't go with

[stoic ledge]

I don't often take it to the stores.. and if I do I park it more in the pack. Or at work in-between co-workers

[charred depot]

Alot of the nice cars park at the back taking up 2 spaces

And honestly at tesco i understand using 2 spaces if you have a nice car

[stoic ledge]

Between co-workers 😎 That way I know it'll be alright

[charred depot]

Unless...

[stoic ledge]

Funny how a Meriva and Focus are too long for the spots

[charred depot]

My saab sticks its snoot out here

[stoic ledge]

Oh yeah I bet

[charred depot]

Saab 95 are hilarious

Literally out the space

[stoic ledge]

Too bad I didn't take a pic of the Opel work gang, 2x Meriva 2x Corsa 1x Astra GTC

There's often on Saturday morning a Saab 9-5 NG parked there at work... It literally sticks out for over 2ft

It's ridiculous

[charred depot]

Are opels as hated there as vauxhalls are here

Not hated but universally treated as naff

[stoic ledge]

Naff?

[sweet tiger]

Is there any treatment to prevent fogging on the outside of window/windshields?

[charred depot]

Shite

[stoic ledge]

Outside? Idk just try cleaning them with proper glass cleaners

[sweet tiger]

Doesn’t really help, my apartment’s garage if humid af in the summer and I like my interior cold.

[charred depot]

I just wipe the sides before i get in then use the wipers

[stoic ledge]

Nah more recent Opel's (15y-now) are generally driven by "normal people".... Older models like the Astra G, Corsa B and now also Corsa C are often driven by chavs

[charred depot]

Not even that but

Moreso called cheap and poorly made

[stoic ledge]

Tbh never really experienced fogging on the outside so can't really help you there

[stoic ledge]

What?

[charred depot]

Yeah

Go onto any forum here and they are constantly ripping the shit out of "poxhalls"

[sweet tiger]

Only happens in humid and hot environments

[stoic ledge]

Oh yeah you got some people calling them Slopel here (Slopen = verb, to wreck/demolish)

But those are the same people why think they're cool because they have a 1999 Golf 1.4

So nobody cares

[pearl tiger]

opel is shite

[stoic ledge]

Luckily your Stilo is the pinnacle of motoring

[charred depot]

Dont see any anymore here, wonder why

Need to get the howmanyleft graph

I guess you could say the steeper the graph the shitter it is

[pearl tiger]

never said that my stilo is "the" perfect car 😄

[stoic ledge]

Because they came with 1001 electrical problems from the factory 😉

[pearl tiger]

also Clio even worse with electrical issues

[stoic ledge]

Tbh, I think Stilo's are worse... Or at least the pre facelift models

[pearl tiger]

well mine is 2004

so the facelift i guess

[stiff burrow]

Do you have another car for shopping?

[stoic ledge]

I barely go shopping

[stiff burrow]

Oh

Do you get stuff delivered usually?

[stoic ledge]

Most stuff, yeah. And my parents get groceries

So don't really need to get to the store that often

[charred depot]

My parents use my mazda 2 im not even insured on it

[stiff burrow]

Oh, makes sense

[charred depot]

Young man = infinity risk

Fact

[pearl tiger]

im self insured on my car since day1 of my license 😄

[charred depot]

Same, i just dont need the mazda

[stoic ledge]

I'm also covered in my parents car, other drivers/family members are covered, but I can't be the main driver

[charred depot]

Puts up the insurance alot to add me on

[pearl tiger]

i drive my moms car but its not insured on me 😄

[charred depot]

On my mums previous provider it would have gone from £120 to £2000

[stoic ledge]

Classic

[charred depot]

That provider just hated young people

Would be 500 with cheapest provider

[stoic ledge]

For when you forget what make car you're driving

[charred depot]

My peugeot insurance isnt gonna be great

Safety features perhaps

[stoic ledge]

Can't you have an oldtimer insurance or something like that on it?

[charred depot]

I can but that has restrictions

Like not commuting

[stoic ledge]

F

[pearl tiger]

my ferraris insurance is 734€ yearly

[charred depot]

£350 on the schaab

£900 ish for poojo

[pearl tiger]

poojo kek

[stoic ledge]

Almost €1k/year

But that's full coverage

[charred depot]

Same

[pearl tiger]

mine is the bare minimum you are required

[charred depot]

My vehicles valuation of £450 is safe

Scratch: writeoff

[stiff burrow]

You have a Ferrari?!

[charred depot]

Lol

[pearl tiger]

technically

probably

nah

[stoic ledge]

Fiat, Ferrari, same thing

[stiff burrow]

Oh

[charred depot]

I hate putting the saabs reg into insurance quotes and seeing the estimated vehicle value displayed

[stoic ledge]

Please tell me you don't have a Selespeed @pearl tiger

[charred depot]

So disrespectful

[pearl tiger]

nah 1.4 16v engine

[stoic ledge]

[pearl tiger]

but soon i get the 2.4 20v abarth MS edition

[stoic ledge]

Schumi

[pearl tiger]

yep and with manual gearbox

if everything goes right ofc

[stoic ledge]

According to my sauce they only sold the Schumi as Selespeed? Atleast here they did

[pearl tiger]

nope is 5 gear manual 🙂

well was optional

[stoic ledge]

Might've been a 🇳🇱 thing then

769,000 Stilo were produced.

Overall, due to insufficient sales, Fiat lost an estimated €2,730 per vehicle produced.```

OOF

[pearl tiger]

well selespeed was like the default spec

[stoic ledge]

Idk usually that's split up even if it's an "option"

[pearl tiger]

but sad that 170hp as 5cyl only do 213kmh

[stoic ledge]

Due to gearing?

Yeah according to Dutch articles the Schumi was only available with the Selespeed here

[pearl tiger]

wtf.. the schumi is cheaper in insurance than my current one

[stoic ledge]

Also apparently 25% was a Abarth model in NL, quite unexpected tbh

[charred depot]

Probably because a fiat enthusiast is less dangerous than your avg fiat driver heh

[pearl tiger]

the schumi stilo with straightpipe is just godlike 😄

but tax are rekt 😄
Current: 97€
Schumi: 168€

[charred depot]

Is that monthly

[stoic ledge]

Per... What?

[pearl tiger]

year

[stoic ledge]

OOF

Cheap

[pearl tiger]

imagine the same car as diesel 😄 then its min. 300€

[charred depot]

Saabs and peugeot is £280/y

[pearl tiger]

also NL has luxuary tax on cars right?

[stoic ledge]

Still cheap

Luxury tax?

[charred depot]

Peugeot will be tax and mot exempt soon

[pearl tiger]

yeah like more CCM is much more taxed

[stoic ledge]

For road tax or on purchase of the vehicle?

Road tax is determined here based on fuel type, and the weight of the vehicle

If your 1500kg car has a 1.4T or a 6.2L V8, the road tax is the same