cars

[dense shard]

And government handouts tbh

[charred terrace]

Hehe Las Vegas loop

[dense shard]

He's taken a lot

[carmine summit]

Tesla would have been bankrupt years ago if elon wasn't dumping most of his salary back into the company

The only good things Elon has done for the world are create Paypal and advance battery tech at an impressive rate

[prime valve]

Paypal is pretty impressive

battery tech im pretty sure others have beaten him to it

[civic girder]

I was apparently wrong about what lidar is. So my honda actually has just normal radar. Either way, seems to work better than Tesla's approach

[carmine summit]

Nah Tesla has made huge advamcements and made a lot of their tech open source

[prime valve]

i watched some documentary that has like 60 different types of batteries

[charred terrace]

But he put Teslas in a tunnel, he said it was innovative, he wouldn’t lie would he

[carmine summit]

lidar is the same as radar but with lasers

[civic girder]

yea, the key word is laser

my car doesn't have a laser, unless the big module mounted to the inside of my windshield does

[prime valve]

controlled environment test no.1

[carmine summit]

musk says lidar is lame, but lasers are objectively cool so he's wrong

[prime valve]

isnt there a company of like 3 people making a self driving module

that is just plug and play ?

open source and so on

[civic girder]

me still waiting for laser ignition to be implemented on a production level

[civic girder]

I call cap on that tbh

[prime valve]

idk it was some youtube documentary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqdYbwY9vPU&t=142s&ab_channel=ReasonTV

this

[civic girder]

I can believe 3 dudes in a basement making a self driving module, and making it open source. But plug and play is too far fetched

[prime valve]

its a module

but its supposed to just work in any car

[civic girder]

plug and play for a specific model, or at most manufacturer, sure. But not universally so

Every manufacturer programs their shit differently

[prime valve]

yeah i know

[civic girder]

pids and codes can vary, and basically every car with any ability to control aspects of itself will be implemented differently. A lot of that tech will be patented and this company would probably need to pay manufacturers for technical details

[carmine summit]

lol plug it into my car and watch nothing happen

[civic girder]

it just doesn't seem feasible to make it universally plug and play

[carmine summit]

i have 0 driver assists

[civic girder]

yea that too

[carmine summit]

except one annoying one, ECU cuts engine power when braking so I can't left foot brake around corners

[civic girder]

plug it into my mid 90s shitbox and nothing happens. "But it has OBD2, its supposed to just work"

[carmine summit]

Gonna program that out when I update ECUs

[prime valve]

it will only work for new cars

but it works

[civic girder]

cap

[dense shard]

They didn't

[prime valve]

idk just watched a video

[civic girder]

have they tested it on every new car?

[dense shard]

Their open source tech has a lot of strings attached

As for advancements? Not really?

[prime valve]

how would i know i dont work for them just mentioned it

[carmine summit]

They have pushed lithim battery tech, Tesla cells are better than any previous EV battery cell

Also

https://www.tesla.com/en_CA/blog/all-our-patent-are-belong-you

Not technically open source but they said people and companies are free to use it in most cases

Also them existing and doing well has created a ton of competition in the EV industry

in capitalist societies, competition drives innovation

[dense shard]

https://www.vennershipley.co.uk/insights-events/does-teslas-open-source-patent-philosophy-mean-they-are-free-to-use/

Tesla is suing their critics in China

That's not innovation

[prime valve]

people that dont know much about this will see it as a advancement

[dense shard]

Also their anti right to repair stance has helped no one

[prime valve]

@rugged forge

we go another case of scammer here

[dense shard]

Wat

[prime valve]

some discord nitro scammer appeared out the wild

[mellow meteor]

1200hp C6 Z06 entering

[prime valve]

Merica

[mellow meteor]

Yessir

[dense shard]

Tesla announces Full Self-Driving package price increase to $12,000

https://flip.it/glF1Ej

It's genuinely a scam at this point

Tesla and Theranos share more than the first letter

[stable grotto]

Yo! Got some dope snow pics after work earlier today

[stable grotto]

holy shit that’s clean man

Sick asf

[stiff burrow]

Even people on the Tesla subreddit said this was a bad decision and they think it’s not worth the money.

[charred depot]

I know a guy here with a smart roadster which drives itself pretty well

cant remember what the thing is called

[stiff burrow]

As much as they shill for Elon musk they know this crap is a waste.

[charred depot]

openpilot is what he has

[stiff burrow]

That’s pretty cool

[charred depot]

its got a radar from a Fiesta ST

way better at B roads than the tesla though

[stiff burrow]

Tesla also delayed the cybertruck again, to nobody’s surprise

[exotic turtle]

Sigh, I can't wait til I'm done with my wagon

Small upgrades and no rust.

[charred depot]

the power steering on the hyundai i30 is insane theres basically no resistance I kinda hate it

[exotic turtle]

Many moons ago

Back when I first got it

[stiff burrow]

Cool

[exotic turtle]

My love tho lol

[stiff burrow]

I don’t think that’s too bad. It’s not a sports car lol. For normal cars I think strong power steering is better

[charred depot]

fickin tap the wheel and it will go full lock

[exotic turtle]

My fc has no power steering lol

Full manual rack

God I love how it feels

There's nothing quite like a full manual rack

[charred depot]

305 doesent have it

my saab has it but the rack is fooked

[stiff burrow]

Oh bruh in that case then never mind lol

[charred depot]

maybe its assistance decreases with speed being EPS but I was just parking it

[exotic turtle]

Future projects lol

Lifted WRX wagon and track shell

I'll be moving the power train and drivetrain from my blue rusty wagon to the red clean wagon

No v8's allowed.

[stiff burrow]

I don’t know if I’ve ever driven a car without power steering…

[charred depot]

It was icy today so ive finished off my handbrake engaging in social activities

[exotic turtle]

It's not really any harder

Just don't try and steer when stationary

When you're moving, that's when you steer

[stiff burrow]

Yeah

Like in every other car 😂

[exotic turtle]

Ugh, so cold

5f out rn

[charred depot]

absolutely not steering it with your palm however

[exotic turtle]

-15c

Intake air temp on the car

[charred depot]

it looks so different on a wide angle camera

it was just 0C today but so damn slippy, probably less grip than snow.

[mellow meteor]

Bro its me Syrup from TS..
I pinged you there

[stable grotto]

Oh hey syrup, when did you ping I don’t have any notifs?

[mellow meteor]

I did D:

[stable grotto]

I c now

Apologies

[stiff burrow]

Is this from your Saab

Or the one with the broken screen

[charred depot]

No I have the saab video somewhere but it consists of understeering onto the other side of the road

[stiff burrow]

Oh

[charred depot]

didnt have new tyres yet :^(

[stiff burrow]

:(

[charred depot]

it can be done pretty well in the saab but you have to put alot more effort in

mazda 2 was piss easy

the 305 has been down this road.. towed behind a 505

[lapis skiff]

look at my purdy girl

[stable grotto]

wicked man, but the real question is where tf you live at looks like some mad max scenery

The dead trees and fields hahah

[stiff burrow]

Looks awesome

[lapis skiff]

mars

[stable grotto]

seems right

[edgy crescent]

Good news everyone.

My car lives! I filled it up with E85, and it goes like it did before 🙂 - all the choo choo noises my heart desires, and the scream of the external gates.

[halcyon prairie]

Stadia in the polestar 2 using vivaldi

[lofty yew]

I got to have this for a day...and now I want one

[dense shard]

Pre-facelift F-type looks way better

[lofty yew]

Agreed. The facelift looks...Ford, almost

[vocal mural]

E85 damages your rubbers

It is made up of 85% ethanol

[dense shard]

If the car is built for it, E85 is fine

[civic girder]

E85 is just hella inefficient

[woven rain]

that is an car alright:

[ivory light]

My car is very inefficient. A 2013 civic which is supposed to give 28mpg gives me 17. And i dint even rev it more than 3k.

[fathom socket]

good thing I have e5

[pearl tiger]

e10 ftw

[civic girder]

bruh

your car is fucked

[stiff burrow]

As long as the car is designed for E85 it’s perfectly fine

[terse raptor]

my truck

[flint sable]

why is it so soft

[edgy crescent]

whoa whoa really? oh no

[edgy crescent]

I mean, if I had rubber fuel lines, that might be a problem, although every rubber fuel line in the last 30 years is ethanol safe

[terse raptor]

well people build their cars for e85

[stiff burrow]

E85 is fine as long as your car is designed for it

[stoic ledge]

I think he was sarcastically reacting to the "E85 is 85% ethanol" comment

XD

[stiff burrow]

Oh

[edgy crescent]

yes 🙂

[stiff burrow]

It’s hard to tell over the internet

[edgy crescent]

I have entirely replaced my fuel system - radium fuel rails, 1400cc injectors, AN fittings with PTFE lines

rewired 460 fuel pump, modified fuel pump housing, in tank filter delete

but e85 "damages your rubbers" if they are 30+ years old, and tbh, any rubber 30+ years old had it coming

[edgy crescent]

oh, it is so terrible. BUT, it's also very powerful at the same time

[stiff burrow]

ooh cool

i like it

[edgy crescent]

it's just amusing being told about e85, given I've been running it for 5+ years now 🙂

[stiff burrow]

@edgy crescent how much power do you make

[edgy crescent]

needs a retune at the moment, probably around 200kw currently, 300 after tune

ej207/gtx3071r/6 speed

[stiff burrow]

nice

[edgy crescent]

gloves 🙂

[stiff burrow]

my car, this is like the third time i've posted this picture lol. exposure is also kinda weird

[woven rain]

not my model. 🤷‍♂️

[civic girder]

I live life on the edge

[woven rain]

i'm going to render that in high sample rate.

[sudden pecan]

i like

is it a ct5

[stiff burrow]

no

ct4

[reef radish]

Guess the car

[dense shard]

Cadillac Catera

So could be that or a Opel Omega

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/97-99_Cadillac_Catera_.jpg/1920px-97-99_Cadillac_Catera_.jpg

I imagine it could have also been a Holden at one point

[lofty yew]

Hehehe, my Mini Cooper now has silly speed and handling

[sage fjord]

been probably 18 months ordered it, but the SBF 347 arrived this week.

That plus a Pro-Flo 4 are going in the Grandé soon.

[dapper meadow]

Found this interesting
https://youtu.be/uM-ycHS9uvw

It's about optimised crank angle

[eager grove]

Ok I have question

With engines

Is the ‘orientation’ of the engine

The opposite way round of the way the pistons go?

That is are pistons considered horizontal across the engine?

[dapper meadow]

Well i don't really get what you trying to say, but engine is just an assembly, there are several types of engines based on piston position, like w16, V12, flat 5, inline 4, boxer, rotary, radial and few more...
The piston movement to one another and block setup defines how the engine is placed.
Hope this will be a generic answer 👍.

@eager grove there isn't a standard piston orientation for the engine, the piston might be in any axis, and the engine is built around the mechanism.

[jovial mauve]

T

The build goes on

[charred depot]

all you need

[dapper meadow]

grey looks dope 👌

[charred depot]

standard pose

Atleast I know where my vacuum leak is now

just getting parts to rebuild the brake booster or finding another :^|

[terse raptor]

nice

my truck is my daily

i also have jeep

[jovial mauve]

I agree but gonna be white

[eager grove]

Thanks @dapper meadow

What I mean is this— they call the orientation used for V8s and V12 or whatever ‘longitudinal’ - which implies to me that the engine is aligned the same way as the car. But the more cylinders, the more space needed and the longer noses those cars seem to have

[stoic ledge]

For the engine itself doesn't matter if it's longitudinal placed or transversal. It is usually linked with the type of power train a car has. RWD = longitudinal, FWD = transversal. However, here are some exceptions like the Passat B5: it had a longitudinal engine placement while being FWD

[dense shard]

Sure in some cases that's so. Most transverse arrangements actually have the engine ahead of the front wheels.

Some sports car makers have taken to moving the engine behind the front wheels. Then we have Audi/VW

Those earlier cars look kinda dopey with absolutely massive front overhangs. I guess it was easier to push the drivetrain forward to allow AWD vs setting up a transfer case and extra bits to drive the front wheels

https://www.blueovaltrucks.com/tech-articles/the_vemco_v-drive_system/

Also this existed.

[charred depot]

No check engine light

fixed with a bit of heatshrink

all the rubber lines on this car are just past it :^(

[outer dew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN6VS8RrTsY

[dense shard]

I'm really hoping the Corolla GR is worth it

[outer dew]

depends what ur looking for and how you value your money

it's still pretty small tho

[dense shard]

I'm looking for a small hatchback that's faster than my Corolla hatchback

Even if Subaru offered a WRX hatchback, I'm not a fan of the styling. I have a few dozen issues with VW so the Golf R doesn't really come into the picture nor does the GTI. The Si is nice, but not nice enough for me to trade my 2019 in.

Then again I have my worries they're going to mess with the content, and try to charge 35k for a car with a SE feature set

If the GR isn't what I want. I'll probably take a look at the new Nissan Z

[drowsy gazelle]

Bikes need more respect on the road

[dense shard]

As long as they follow the rules of the road, sure.

Passing me on a blind curve doing 30 over the limit over a double yellow line ain't it.

That goes for everyone though... So yeah bikers should be respected.

[stoic ledge]

I treat them with the same respect as all the other drivers

Hell, I even make space for them at traffic lights so they can filter

I don't respect those who treat the road like a racetrack tho

Luckily most I've encountered are decent

[hollow pasture]

you droppin a 1uz in tha fc?

[jovial mauve]

👀

[hollow pasture]

only back roads lol

when i lived in the middle of nowhere we would do runs at 10 till 3

[dense shard]

That sounds remarkably annoying for the locals.

[stoic ledge]

👀

[jovial mauve]

Just kidding

I hate folks the most that drive on the left lane that are slower then righy

Or they overtake with +1

[stoic ledge]

Same

[jovial mauve]

i hate the fact

that the people on the right always drive like 90

and then on the left its like

95

like fuck off

right should be 100

left should be 120

[exotic turtle]

why would i put anything other than a rotary in an rx7

i'm not building a drift or drag car

i'm going for road racing

[dense shard]

https://scontent-msp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/244772591_10159862259325452_3748039428745055910_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=843cd7&_nc_ohc=6xNyXMLRxSsAX8J_JuF&tn=dSuhsLcAHpYQA0Md&_nc_ht=scontent-msp1-1.xx&oh=00_AT9FIyXIql1S88KZS00uzPxNIzg_P3svgfRxQHffDm1RHA&oe=61E00BA5 I'm so tempted

V12 XJS

[dusk ocean]

Had one of those catch fire at the dealership I worked at in college

They have a fuel distributor that sits above the ignition coil - the lines rot, fuel drips, coil/plug wires arc, fire.

It caught fire inside the shop - we had to push it outside and watch it burn down

[charred depot]

but that snoot tho

[dusk ocean]

its got the craziest door sill stoo

I remember getting into it like wtf

[vocal mural]

Diesel price in Sweden: 20,12SEK

Petrol price in the Netherlands: €2,10

[dense shard]

It looks wonderful, but I don't have the money or patience to keep one on the road.

Maybe an inline 6

[dense shard]

Tesla’s ‘Full Self-Driving’ beta has an ‘assertive’ driving mode that ‘may perform rolling stops’

https://flip.it/bRIiwH

[civic spoke]

A rolling stop is just not a stop.

[charred terrace]

the point is that its technically illegal

[dense shard]

Technically, practically, legally.

[charred terrace]

legally illegal lol

[dense shard]

As in from a legal standpoint

[stiff burrow]

What a joke

[dense shard]

Every year, Tesla sounds more and more like Theranos

And Rivian trying to prove itself

[exotic turtle]

I had an uncle with one of those jag's

He spent like 2-3x the value of the car maintaining it lol

The rear seats were only big enough for small children lol

[charred depot]

"will not exit passing lanes" heh

[exotic turtle]

I miss my fc so much lol

Doing that was so much fun

[haughty ridge]

Petrol is cheaper tho in Sweden

[vocal mural]

I know, around 18SEK in the area where i was

[eager grove]

Bloody petrol stations gouging us in the UK at the minute

oil prices rise, prices go up straight away

they fall

and they go down slowly

[stoic ledge]

Not only in the UK

[charred depot]

Do i buy a car just because it has 720k miles

[stoic ledge]

Definitely

Only asking 750GBP?

Inside looks alright

[charred depot]

Yeah but its like as far south as it can be

Sadge

[stoic ledge]

https://c.tenor.com/WR6WqQzIv_UAAAAM/hermit-the-frog-road-trip.gif

[charred depot]

Friend that would has a broken ankle

Neither of us have an auto for him

[stoic ledge]

😢

[jovial mauve]

[stoic ledge]

[jovial mauve]

i always wanted a sirocco

such a shame they are so small

[fathom socket]

I miss my focus

[solemn inlet]

Goes hard

[woven rain]

Car be like:

that is a Rerender of the Car i sent earlier

[woven rain]

there is a Newly Rendered image above

is soft?

[flint sable]

i mean like

specifically in this area

looks good thouhg

[chrome flame]

lmao i hv same file

[flint sable]

i wonder who made it

[chrome flame]

dats the thing

[flint sable]

just a free model out there?

[chrome flame]

yh

idk why dat prsn posted it for free

this is dope too

[flint sable]

thats a good one

[woven rain]

lol

how many samples?

[chrome flame]

samples?

[woven rain]

Yeah

[chrome flame]

wht is dat

[chrome flame]

oh yeah

600

[woven rain]

those:

[chrome flame]

• open image diagnose rendering

[woven rain]

i used 5000 because one user said it is soft

[chrome flame]

my pc cant handle 600 properly lmao

u can try 1 thing

[woven rain]

oof... it took a Great time too...

[chrome flame]

ic

[woven rain]

let's see 500...

or less?

[chrome flame]

just enable open image diagnose and set it at 256 samples and it will be the same

[woven rain]

i use SID

[chrome flame]

hmm

[woven rain]

Super Image Denoiser

[chrome flame]

nice

[woven rain]

well, let's try 256

[chrome flame]

ig

yh

[woven rain]

well, imma render that on CPU this time

10C20T

not done yet...

brb

about half a Minute left

while my CPU almost dies due to HT and Blender

brb again

this is the 256 samples version:

[woven rain]

Not bad but not really the quality I would aim for...

I could look what the lowest is that i call acceptable.

well, let's start with a Sample of: 1

that is the Result:

not bad for such an low sampe size.
edit: it was not really recognisable before denoise.

welp, i'll increase resolution again

just 16K

[woven rain]

and it crashed.

8K:

[civic girder]

smh no LED gauges

[dense shard]

I can get a Nissan Leaf for about the same price as a Corolla.

Only 40kwh battery, but still.

[exotic turtle]

Frost?

FROST??

I wish it was only barely cold enough for frost.

Frost temps would be lovely

[viral raptor]

-25C or -13F here currently

[exotic turtle]

That's intake temp. With wind it's probably well below that

Sitting here letting my engine warm up

So I can turn on the heat

Engine is up to 130

[viral raptor]

My battery is completely dead

[exotic turtle]

I'm glad I bought a new one last week Tuesday

It wouldn't start my car when the temps were around 10f

[viral raptor]

I need to get a new one too because I have no clue how old the current one is

[exotic turtle]

Mine was uh...

7-8yrs old now?

[viral raptor]

All I know is that the stickers on it have completely faded

[exotic turtle]

Mine wasn't faded

But if I let my car sit, and let the battery show resting voltage

It would be around 11.7

Car battery is supposed to be around 12.6 lol

Here's a fun part

My windshield has no frost on the outside.

But has it on the inside lol

[viral raptor]

Oh that's a pain

[exotic turtle]

From before even me

Have to hold the engine at 1500 to warm it up more.

[viral raptor]

I recommend leaving something in the car overnight to suck up any possible moisture

[exotic turtle]

Radiator is some aftermarket eBay aluminum one. Thicker than stock

So my engine struggles to stay warm when moving in these temps lol

I could get it up to 200, and as soon as I start moving, it'll drop to 170-180

[viral raptor]

Get wind blockers? I'm not sure exactly what they're called but yeah

[exotic turtle]

It's been a great car to me

I'm sad to see the chassis rust

I'll be transferring the power train and drivetrain to a new WRX wagon

That was back around when I first bought it.

Fun part is, it's so cold, I can leave food in it, and not worry about it spoiling lol

It's frozen, and it'll stay frozen

[viral raptor]

Just don't leave any liquids in lol

[exotic turtle]

Yeah, current weather report says it's 3f, but feels like -5

So, if we carry that to my cars actual indicated -4, it's more like -11ish

I trust my IAT over online reporting

[exotic turtle]

So yeah, my engine got up to 194, which is full open thermostat at a stop light

Only for it to drop to 180 when moving lol

The radiator, despite being eBay, is pretty damn good

[exotic turtle]

oops, forgot some soda in the car

in single digit temperatures

those....are very frozen now lol

so i put them in my tub for safe measure, just in case they pop while warming up

[solemn inlet]

Made a bit of a difference. Looks better in my opinion. Just gotta sand the grill and get some fog lights

Oh and paint the intercooler grill

[vocal mural]

What does that red P mean?

[solemn inlet]

I'm still a probationary driver

[stoic ledge]

Where's the massive bullbar

[solemn inlet]

Idk, haven't hit any roos yet

touch wood

[charred depot]

I saw a fwd kia sportage with a bullbar here

Be funny if its not declared because if they bump someone with that id side with the insurance company on voiding their policy

[solemn inlet]

Its like all up $2500 for a bullbar for my ute

[charred depot]

Do they get stolen pretty often then?

[solemn inlet]

The car or bullbar?

[stoic ledge]

Same with Dacia Dusters xD

[stoic ledge]

Fabricate it yourself

[vocal mural]

Well, I will use my student card to Emmerich today and explore

[sleek delta]

You driving to Germany?

[stoic ledge]

Imagine having a student public transport card

They pay me every month to not have one 😎

[vocal mural]

Since 1/1 it is allowed to travel with Dutch travel cared to Emmerich, Elten and Praest

[sleek delta]

What you do in Germany?

[stoic ledge]

🍻

[vocal mural]

Well, I have vaccination certificate, so I may drink beer at a pub there

[sleek delta]

Well guess I could join you

Me living in Germany 🍻

[vocal mural]

Bye Arnhem

[sleek delta]

Do you understand German ?

[steady jewel]

I final found my next car it's exactly the way I wan't it to be

[vocal mural]

The connection between Zevenaar and Emmerich is horrible, the train driver needs to switch from ATB to ETCS and then to PZB, and even switch from 1,5 kV catenary to 25 kV and then to 15 kV

[sleek delta]

Well that’s complicated

[stiff burrow]

better car

[vocal mural]

They actually should have done getting 15KV and PZB to Zevenaar instead

[vocal mural]

Comfortably seats actually for a regional modern train

[stiff burrow]

nice

the trains in my country suck 😢

but i would use them if they didn't

[sleek delta]

The trains in my country are always 30 minutes too late :3

[desert bane]

we don’t use trains in the freedom states

[sleek delta]

We cars

We oil

We America

[stiff burrow]

no we have amtrak but i would rather walk from NYC to LA

jk

but amtrak is bad

[sleek delta]

Trains are only for transportation in the Us ?

[steady jewel]

I would take the train if the times worked for me

[desert bane]

most people use cars
there are trains but mostly for cargo

[stiff burrow]

yeah

there are lots of industrial rail lines

[sleek delta]

In German it’s kinda mixed

They share the same lane

[steady jewel]

In canada downtown people love the train but people who live outside downtown like cars

[desert bane]

ye
I guess the metro counts too, but that’s pretty much only in the cities

[stiff burrow]

yeah

[sleek delta]

More convenient

[stiff burrow]

i visited toronto for a week or so and the subway was amazing

[sleek delta]

I’m Germany the trains can go throughout the Country

[stiff burrow]

go anywhere quick without a car? yes pls

[vocal mural]

Actually Abellio will cease operation between Arnhem and Düsseldorf

[steady jewel]

In toronto the subway is only better because people can't drive

[stiff burrow]

lol true

[steady jewel]

It's cheeper to take the subway then it is to get you car fixed.

[vocal mural]

The company is bankrupt

The only connection between Düsseldorf and Arnhem will be with the (Expensive) ICE

[steady jewel]

I am saving up to get a new car so I'm down to take any public transport if it's cheaper then running my car

[vocal mural]

Until VIAS get a license to operate in the Netherlands

[stiff burrow]

trains in the US also have the issue of coverage

[sleek delta]

That’s true ice is expensive

And not even faster due to speed limits near the city’s

[stiff burrow]

1st map is US highways + interstate, second map is amtrak train lines

[vocal mural]

Biden will fix that issue

[steady jewel]

trains also have coverage problems in canada as well

[stiff burrow]

lots of major cities are covered but you still would need to rent a car if you want to get to another city or a destination outside the city

[stiff burrow]

im excited

[sleek delta]

I’m Germany you can just take the train (most of the time)

But the us is always a bit different from other Countries

[stiff burrow]

yea

[steady jewel]

nice corvette what gen

[sleek delta]

Seems older

[stiff burrow]

it's a 6th gen

05-13

[steady jewel]

nice I like the 6th gen

[stiff burrow]

yeah

[stiff burrow]

nice car

[steady jewel]

I went to see a gen 6 corvette in June

almost bought it but thankfully I didn't as the seller lied to me

[charred depot]

Even in my pos its cheaper to drive than train

Fookin £50 a ticket

[sleek delta]

Also very nice

[stiff burrow]

bruh

[mellow meteor]

is was that or a zl1 camaro :/

and i aint doing a camaro

[charred depot]

Post long antennas

[steady jewel]

@mellow meteor I'm looking for a yellow one. looking for a factory painted one

[charred depot]

Rc car spec

[stiff burrow]

C6 z06 is a better car, you have that beautiful 7L N/A V8

[sleek delta]

I like the Audi R8

:3

[steady jewel]

this is the car I currently have

I am currently looking for the same car to buy again

[sleek delta]

Wow that’s a shabby building

[vocal mural]

Germany have many looks like abandoned buildings

[sleek delta]

Well that was WW2

[fathom socket]

when I ni e car parks next to my shitbox

[sleek delta]

Btw that’s not a toy car

[fathom socket]

looks like a car toy to me

[sleek delta]

Let me send other pics

[fathom socket]

I wish I had a car toy

and not firehazard on wheels

[stoic ledge]

IF you buy tickets at full price, for 1 person it's almost the same cost going by car or going by train/public transport. Are you going with multiple people, cars are just way cheaper

[sleek delta]

The engine

V12 I think

[stoic ledge]

So it's mostly used by students (they get a student card from the government) or by commuters who use it every day and have a subscription on it (often paid by the employer)

[stoic ledge]

If it's the Veyron's engine it's a W16

[wraith rivet]

I thought Bugattis have W engines

beat me to it lol

[sleek delta]

Could also be

[stoic ledge]

Yes quad turbo W16

8L

[fathom socket]

Quad?

[wraith rivet]

4 turbos

[stoic ledge]

Yes quad turbo

4 yes

[fathom socket]

I would fear to turn on this engine

[sleek delta]

Yes

[fathom socket]

and look my bank account being drained to 0 by idling for 10 seconds

[sleek delta]

Btw this thing stands in Germany in Wolfsburg that’s there Volkswagen has its Headquarter

[stoic ledge]

Don't worry about the fuel, the tires wear out faster at top speed than the fuel

😛

[sleek delta]

There’s a beautiful big park and a lot of nice cars

[stoic ledge]

Never been to Wolfsburg, have visited Porsche, Mercedes (Stuttgart) and BMW (Munchen)

[sleek delta]

I recommend it it’s nice there at least from what I can tell

[stiff burrow]

8L? smol

[stoic ledge]

Haven't really been in the direction of Wolfsburg

We usually go on vacation in the South of Germany, + family in Stuttgart, so Munchen/Stuttgart makes more sense

[sleek delta]

Cool it’s still a vacation recommendation

Also found some Lamborghinis and Delorians there

[vocal mural]

How to tell which time Germany is on technology in one picture:

[stiff burrow]

i drive by the chrysler america hq on a daily basis :p

i've been inside the GM hq before too

they used to have this cool display of all their cars but idk if they still do

[stoic ledge]

[stiff burrow]

picture

[stoic ledge]

Cool 😎

So a bit like BMW Welt

[stiff burrow]

yeah

[sleek delta]

They used to look different

[stiff burrow]

this is way cooler though

[stoic ledge]

You can also pick up your new car at BMW Welt, those cars on the right are customer cars picking up their new BMW from the factory

[stiff burrow]

oh wow

[sleek delta]

Same with Volkswagen they even sponsor your trip to it at least in Germany

[stiff burrow]

they do something similar for the corvette, you can pick it up at the corvette museum in Kentucky, basically right next door to the plant

[stoic ledge]

VW has like a giant vending Machine to pick up your new VW at the factory in Wolfsburg

[sleek delta]

Yeah saw that

That’s cool

[stiff burrow]

sounds cool

[sleek delta]

You have to a picture of it

You can even test drive your car there

[stiff burrow]

they call it the "corvette nursery"

lol

[stoic ledge]

Imagine not paying €200k for a Corvette

I have no idea where you can pick them up tho, don't think we have GM dealers?

The Corvette is the only GM car officially being sold in Europe now lol

[stiff burrow]

lol

maybe they go through special import dealers

we have that kinda thing here for imported european cars

[stoic ledge]

Ok so there's a website

https://www.chevroleteurope.com/

You can chose a country there

But if I then search for a dealer

It gives me 0 results back

Nice

[stiff burrow]

lol

in the past i assume they went through opel and vauxhall dealers

[stoic ledge]

It's not GM anymore

[stiff burrow]

yea

[stoic ledge]

But no they don't go through Opel/Vauxhall dealers

Apparently in Belgium they can be had at Croonen which is a Nissan dealership

Lol

Nissan & Suzuki*

Germany actually has multiple

Ah well, probably makes sense as they're like 100k in Germany and 200k here

They're good for 100k but not for 200k xD

Ok no in Germany even less, starting from 87k

For 🇳🇱 they don;t even list a price

xD

[stiff burrow]

that's actually not too bad

[stoic ledge]

So for 🇳🇱 it starts from 166.797

🙃

"Yeah, we'll just double the price"

[stoic ledge]

If I add the tax manually*

[stiff burrow]

🇺🇸

[stoic ledge]

If they were that price here I'd see them at every street

[stiff burrow]

lol

[stoic ledge]

Converted that's €56.300... which is less than a BMW 420i (€57.700, 184hp) 😛

[stiff burrow]

we don't even have the 420i here

the 430i starts at $45800 :p

V8 camaro starts at $35195

[civic spoke]

Pretty sure they aren't showing sales tax, and all of that.

[stoic ledge]

Just a mere €62k (70k USD) 😛 here

Yeah but sales tax is like 7% or something depending on the state? So it'll still leave a 100k gap 😛

[stoic ledge]

We can't get a base Golf for that nowadays xD

Base = 1.0 TSI I3 with 90hp

[stiff burrow]

Or pretend we’re in Oregon with no sales tax :p

[stoic ledge]

OOF

Crazy

[steady jewel]

almost bought a new car but stoped when I found out the delivery time

[jovial mauve]

Imagine wanting a corvett

[steady jewel]

I am planning to buy this car (HPE1000 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon) when they are available to be delivered out

[sleek delta]

This car reminds of an episode of the grand tour, i think one of them drove a demon in that episode

[steady jewel]

this car is from Hennessy automotive

[sleek delta]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUxiMEifoDI

[steady jewel]

The car I am looking at getting is doing 1035 bhp

[sleek delta]

Richard was not allowed to drive a drag race with that car on open streets. You surely know why😆

[steady jewel]

yes I know why

[sleek delta]

i like the 3 briish man

[charred depot]

they were doing like 66 before I started overtaking

[jovial mauve]

i mean this is not as bad as here

also its weird seeing it because your overtaking on the right wich is illegal here

[charred depot]

its not bad its just

[jovial mauve]

true

[charred depot]

im on foot cruise technologyTM and only really drift away from 72mph at an elevation change

other people oh a downhill lets go from 66-67 to like 74

or maybe they didnt want me to pass who knows

[pearl tiger]

technically its #cars right?

[steady jewel]

I found a subwoofer for my car what do you guys think

https://cerwinvega.com/18-3600w-single-2-ohm-spl-subwoofer-spcl182.html

[pearl tiger]

question is always: do you need that, also can you power that?

[steady jewel]

I can power it I just wan't a lot of bass in my sedan

[pearl tiger]

well i dont have much experience with own build stuff 😄

i use my pretty fked magnat bandpass

[steady jewel]

The only down side I see to the sub it that it might cause my spoiler to come off my trunk

[pearl tiger]

no spoiler gang

[steady jewel]

I like my spoiler it make my car look nicer. currently i am using 2 6x9 speakers as subs

[pearl tiger]

sweet and cheap e10 😄

[mellow meteor]

took the zr2 out to play in some snow, snd mostly ice. slid down a hill a tad was about to hold on for dear life.

[jovial mauve]

If only cheap

[pearl tiger]

in LUX its cheap

not in germany

[steady jewel]

I would like to go out and play in the snow with my parents truck but I am afraid of hitting something. I don't have 80 grand in the bank to replace the truck

[jovial mauve]

I wish i was in germany

[pearl tiger]

not for the fuel prices

currently 1,61€ per litre for e10

[steady jewel]

I pay 0.93€ per litre to fill my car.

[pearl tiger]

but you not driving the shitbox

[steady jewel]

are you referring to your car

[pearl tiger]

maybe

[jovial mauve]

I just paid 198,9

1,98,9

[mellow meteor]

thats why i got a ‘97 zr2 and traded my ‘19 sr5 in lol

oh plus, toyota actuators suck complete garbage, my all broke 3 times and the 3rd time they werent gonna put it under warranty 💀

[steady jewel]

I been looking for a 2012 f150 Kingranch but there to expensive

[mellow meteor]

i liked my tacoma, but not dealing with actuators that go out randomly

i turned it on once, and all my actuators just somehow died

“oh your tires! oh your lift kit”. a 2.5 inch lift kit wont break actuators, and putting on 32’s wont break actuators either. there are people with 35’s and theirs dont break lol

[steady jewel]

My dad has a 2018 f150 Kingranch v8 and i am jealous

[mellow meteor]

i really want a f250, i love those shits

[steady jewel]

the f250 is nice but it's only got one flaw

[mellow meteor]

And whats that flaw

[steady jewel]

don't like the column shifter

[charred depot]

not really properly snowed yet here :^|

glad I didnt buy those winter tyres for my steelies

wouldnt have really needed them in our worst case but its a bit of fun to go up the unplowed roads people cant

[steady jewel]

My car fwd so snow is not a problem for me

[pearl tiger]

ha for you 😄

i have all season tyres on.. and it snowed like 40-50cm here

F those roads

[steady jewel]

I don't like all season tyres

[charred depot]

The private concrete road to my unit had frozen and I didnt realise until I tried to slow down for the gate at the end

mucho panic

then after learning about it being slippy I did some handbrake assisted slides and BMW'ed my saabs handbrake

the springs on handbrake shoes have to be the most aids thing to put on or maybe I dont have the right tool.

[pearl tiger]

already on my car when i bought.. and didnt want to buy new ones just for 1 month driving

[steady jewel]

that fair

I like driving in the snow it's the only time I get to drift my car

saab thats a car I forgot about

[charred depot]

pirelli ver good

I wasnt too bothered but I had a broken engine mount so trying to control wheel spin and the engine rocking about was painful

[steady jewel]

Last week I had to help a buddy drive his car home after his power stearing died

[charred depot]

while I was flying into my drive a bit too fast I put the clutch in to put it into first and the engine cut out so I couldnt steer and ended up akwardly up the kerb facing the garden.

person behind was probably like whaz this clown doing

[steady jewel]

my friend thought his honda was a six speed the day he was driving it home he blew his transmission by going from 5th for R

[charred depot]

my mazda 2 supposedly wouldnt let you go from 5th to reverse

never tried

[steady jewel]

this was a 2001 honda acord

[charred depot]

The vacuum line to my brake booster completely failed a few days ago while I was 150 miles away, fixed it now with heatshrink. That fuel economy sucked though.

[steady jewel]

I currently own a 2002 honda accord sedan and I am looking to buy the same car

[charred depot]

The saab catches people out as they think because it has a pull up thing itll be where first is

but no its pull up and where 6th would be

they go to reverse then end up going forward

[fathom socket]

Just another normal day in the country

[steady jewel]

lol the worst honda ever

[dense shard]

I'm quite fond of this generation tbh

[mellow meteor]

This S10 man

Zr2 Sir

[steady jewel]

this gen was only made for 1 year. this came after Honda had a very successful run with the 6th gen that ran 5 years

[mellow meteor]

@fathom socket

[dense shard]

03-05

Facelift ran till 2007

Had the 6 speed and V6

[steady jewel]

the engine is good

[dense shard]

It was a solid upgrade compared to last gen

[steady jewel]

My 2002 Honda accord sedan is running like new after 20 years

[dense shard]

The 4 speeds in the 98-02 had a tendency to explode

[steady jewel]

only happened rarely and only happened on 4 cylinders Engine models

[dense shard]

It was common enough for a class action

And the v6s were just as likely

[steady jewel]

I looked into it and in canada no cases involved a v6

[dense shard]

US had plenty

Honda transmissions frankly have a rough history

Auto or manual

[steady jewel]

my transmission has been rebuilt once

[dense shard]

Within how many miles?

Or kilometers whichever

[steady jewel]

90,000 km

[dense shard]

... that's super low

My Accord went 150k miles.

I sold it

You would have been covered under the recall in the US

[steady jewel]

I also abused the crap out of my car when it was new

[dense shard]

Super interesting design tho

You should read up on it if you haven't

It wasn't a traditional planetary gearset

[steady jewel]

I had my machine guy tell me I made my routers blue

[dense shard]

That's rough alright

[steady jewel]

I drive my car hard every now and then

[civic spoke]

Auto or manual?

[steady jewel]

auto

[civic spoke]

Huh, weird. A transmission giving up after only 90,000 km's.

[dense shard]

It's a 90s Honda auto

They're expected to die young tbh

[charred depot]

90k km is like a new car

[dense shard]

They had transmissions go out within 120k

[steady jewel]

I don't remember if it was 90,000km but all I know I was being rough with it and it was my own fault

[charred depot]

you do 15,000 miles a year and after 3 years thats it?

[dense shard]

Nah, but they were super finicky

[civic spoke]

That really depends on where you live. And how you use it.

[fathom socket]

:D

[charred depot]

still crazy low

[mellow meteor]

Yes sir

[steady jewel]

I baby my car now and I plan to have the car run another 20 years

[mellow meteor]

even got the cracked dash

[dense shard]

That's my plan with the Corolla potentially

Well 50 years in my case

[steady jewel]

I even plan to buy a second 2002 honda accord sedan

[mellow meteor]

And never gets near 210

[steady jewel]

I like this car a lot

[dense shard]

They are super cars

I miss my 01

[charred depot]

I dont know if my 27 year old saab even has gearbox oil, the shaft seals are gone.

[steady jewel]

I think the oem wing on the 2002 honda was epic

[charred depot]

can be picked up for £30 so im not too worried

every seal and hose is just past it

[dense shard]

Mine was a VP

A very comfy car

[charred depot]

Still on the hunt for a windscreen I need these boomers to check their AOL addresses

[steady jewel]

I wan't the upgraded version of my car because some of the extra features were cool

[fathom socket]

Same here but my sensors are dead

Abs and break lights on

[mellow meteor]

My fuel meter doesnt even work correctly lmao

It sits at just “FUEL”

[fathom socket]

Oof

[mellow meteor]

So if I run out, I guess I run out

also it goes through gas like its nothing

[mellow meteor]

but i have zero reason to even fix it whatseoever

runs and drives ah-oh-kay

[fathom socket]

Rip

Is it a 4.3 V6 ?

[mellow meteor]

mhm

[fathom socket]

Oh idk lol

They can outlive my other parts xd

[mellow meteor]

‘97 4.3 Vortec V6 ZR2

[steady jewel]

my back door the one behind the driver had the door handel brake so I could only open it from the inside

[mellow meteor]

purrs like a dream

[fathom socket]

Indeed

Got 402 thousand on mine

[mellow meteor]

fast as shit though

ngl it aint slow

[fathom socket]

It's alright

[mellow meteor]

slower than my z06 of course lmao

[fathom socket]

@charred depot what car is that o:

[charred depot]

Peugeot 305

[mellow meteor]

baby got a 427 LSX in it

[fathom socket]

O:

[charred depot]

It needs a windscreen to pass the MOT but sadly no one stocks them for the like 20 on the road in the UK

[fathom socket]

That's your tire Slayer over there lol

[charred depot]

Could probably get one from france but annoying

[steady jewel]

I wan't to get a straight 6 twin turbo

skyline engine and but in my next honda

[charred depot]

got weird annoying delamination which cant be fixed

[mellow meteor]

just needs a respray

[charred depot]

the windscreen.

and its wet.

the paint is pretty much perfect

[mellow meteor]

could try a glass polish

[fathom socket]

No rust at 402 thousand miles saving a new engine for it in the future instead of a new car @mellow meteor

[charred depot]

its delamination..

unless you polish all the outer glass away to the plastic middle you arent doing anything to change it

[steady jewel]

I am planing 3600w sub in my current car. Just hope it doesn’t cause my spoiler to come loose

[fathom socket]

Had it straight pipe once but police told me to put it back to normal rip

[steady jewel]

my dad's v8 2018 f150 is stright pied and that is a loud truck

[mellow meteor]

mine has rust on the bottom side door, about it

mine is just catback

[fathom socket]

Sweet and I gotcha well still drives

[mellow meteor]

i just need to get the bottom piece and just weld it

[steady jewel]

I keep encouraging my dad to upgrade his truck so I can get his old one

I keep recommending the Venom 775 F-150 to him

[fathom socket]

ooo

Tbh I actually want a Ford ranger raptor some day

I've driven one once and it was epic

Looked like this one it was black and orange

[steady jewel]

I am interested in the v8 raptor

[fathom socket]

It may have that too

Too bad the one I drove was a twin turbo V6 but still good

Alot faster than my ancient S10 lol

Well not really it's only 18 years old

[steady jewel]

the v6 turbo is not as good as the v8

[mellow meteor]

but the v6 twin turbo is still a good engine

[steady jewel]

yea but the turbo is producing way to much boost

you probably need to replace the trubo 4 times before the engine dies

[eager grove]

UK pick up trucks don't have enough power

End up having to use tractors round farms just to tow trailers with wood chippers and stuff on them because the 1.9TDI in the Toyota couldn't tow a wheelbarrow

[mellow meteor]

my friends mom has a ford escape w/ the ecoboost and it has 220k miles, not one issues w/ the turbo

they are pretty reliable

[steady jewel]

only the f150 has the turbo making more boost

[mellow meteor]

and most of the trucks easily reach over 150k miles without a single turbo issue

[steady jewel]

my friend works at ford and he told me there problematic

[mellow meteor]

i’ve never had a friend come across that issue or my work mates

[fathom socket]

A friend of mine told me what my dream car is it's a Ford gt40 he says but it has no radio to listen to music. I say the rear engine is the music the V8 with carburetors

[dense shard]

Supposedly the first gen Ecoboosts had issues.

Not so much the second gen motors.

Then gain a small V6 in a bit vehicle? I have my doubts on longevity.

[fathom socket]

4.3 V6 is all I need lol

[astral merlin]

rumbley cars dont have radios, u cant hear them anyway so it doesnt matter

[fathom socket]

O:

[vocal mural]

A Diesel engine of Bocholter Eisenbahn spotted yesterday shunting cargo train from the port

[hazy bough]

yo i got this motor out of my old fan what should i do with it i was thinking of using it to make a rc car an anyone got any better ideas

[keen sleet]

so quick question to everyone to get an opinion. I currently can sell my car for about 5k more than what I got it for. Im going into a PHD program this fall and need to lower my costs as much as possible. Im considering trading the car for the value and getting a civic, carolla, or a hybrid which would be higher up front cost but with gas prices on the west coast might be a good idea. Considering a LX or EX civic, a Prius, carolla, carolla hybrid or a honda insight.

What do you think? I cant work for 3 years starting this fall for the program and will pay off the car regardless with a travel nursing gig before i do so.

[vocal mural]

Do not buy a Prius 🤮

[keen sleet]

lol

believe me never thought id consider it

but i need the best price-savings. Economy is everything

within reason lol

[vocal mural]

Do you drive much?

[keen sleet]

im going to be

I live in the city so my first year I wont be

but year 2/3 my clinicals go from western oregon all the way to idaho and seattle

[stoic ledge]

I'd get a Corolla Hybrid as it's basically a Prius but better looking

[keen sleet]

lol fair

the prius is ass ugly

the insights interior is rlly nice tho

but you think the 3-4k difference in cost of the car is worth it for the hybrid?

[stoic ledge]

@civic girder has a new Insight, he can probably tell you more about it

[stoic ledge]

Is that the MSRP difference or the difference at the lot?

[keen sleet]

ehhhh thats the trouble

buying a car is a pain

but im seeing about ranging from about 23-25k for the normal cars and about 25-28 for the hybrids

[stoic ledge]

Ah

And how much of your driving is city driving?

[keen sleet]

most of it

but we might move to the suburbs

to save cash

[stoic ledge]

Ah well Hybrids do save money on highways, but with city driving there's an even bigger difference

[keen sleet]

but were all likely to stay here bc she can take the small train to work

[stoic ledge]

So I guess you'll make back the difference in your fuel savings

[keen sleet]

true hn

hm*

bc whatever im not spending will go to savings too

nursing travel contracts are insane atm like 4-5k a week

[stoic ledge]

I have no idea what that is

[keen sleet]

uhhh so registered nurses can take on traveling gigs. Where they help out a local hospital or the like as a staff nurse but theyre essentially a rental

with how bad COVID is those contracts are reaching upwards of $4-5k a week working full time

[stoic ledge]

Ah oof

[keen sleet]

and you get an allowance for housing which is tax free

yeah

its not sunshine and daisys tho lol you work in very understaffed units and you will get the worst assignments

but I can pay off a car by may

[stoic ledge]

Yeah I bet

But the pay is 🚀

[keen sleet]

oh yeah I know friends who work only 6 months out of the year

and still live in places like LA

so think the hybrids worth it or just get a civic or carolla?

[stoic ledge]

Personally I think I'd go for the Hybrid option in your case, with a difference of 0-5k, the average difference is like 2.5k which I think you'll earn back, probably also worth some more when selling the car again

[keen sleet]

true

[stoic ledge]

Insight vs Corolla/Prius... Idk @civic girder had the same decision to make, I think he chose the Insight as the difference between the Insight and the Toyota's was quite large in his area so idk

[keen sleet]

yeah my problem is that toyota interiors are awwwwful

[stoic ledge]

I think the Corolla is alright? Can't judge about the Insight, it isn't sold here 😛

But yeah if you prefer the Insight interior, go for it

[keen sleet]

thanks for your input

[charred depot]

Insight mk1 dreamy

[terse raptor]

my batteries finally died in my truck last night

[civic girder]

@keen sleet @stoic ledge
The Insight interior is worse than the Corolla interior hands down. It looks and feels cheap.
That said, the Insight has way better infotainment since it uses the same thing as the Accord.
Honda's safety system also sucks. The lane centering is weaker and only works at highway speed; and the whole suite in general likes to freak out sometimes. About the only things that work consistently well are the collision mitigation braking and Blindspot monitoring; adaptive cruise seems to work ok as well. Personally the Toyotas are much better; tho I'm pretty biased. If you're looking at the Corollas, only consider the 2L engine or the hybrid; the 1.8L with CVT are slow and will probably frustrate you. The Insight is based on the 10th gen Civic, the interior is actually very similar and you can see the bodylines in the side profile.
The Prius will get the best mpg hands down. Looks aside, it's the best; but most expensive option.
Comparing the Corolla Hybrid and the Insight, it primarily comes down to your taste and what kind of driving you do the most. The Insight gets really really good city mpg due to its fancy serial hybrid system; where the Corolla Hybrid gets better highway mpg due to Toyota's incredibly well designed parallel hybrid.
Iirc the Insight is about $2k more MSRP, but if you do primarily city driving it's worth it; the EV mode is very good and the variable Regen braking is an awesome feature.
Personally I wish I had gotten a Corolla Hybrid instead; but it's not like the Insight is a bad car, I just have some nitpicky issues with it.

The Insight is faster than the Corolla Hybrid and the Prius as well. If that matters to you.
Honda's serial hybrid system has only been around since 2016 or so when it was introduced in the Accord hybrid, so it's reliability is more suspect than Toyota. Toyota's eCVT parallel hybrid system has been around since the late 90s and been continuously improved over the years. Honda's old IMA system was hot garbage, the Civic Hybrids of old are extremely unreliable.

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The Civic Hybrids were hot garbage yes, but wasn't the 2nd gen Insight also alright?

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@stoic ledge , i found the Brazilian Variant of the Astra, and it looks ... weird

Is that a digital speedometer?

Looks like they somehow merged the designs of Astra and Zafira

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It looks like Astra made from mismatched parts

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And it apparently didn't came with a CID or GID, the Climate controls are in the control panel

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FI6loJ-XMAE-X81?format=jpg&name=large

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That's the Chevrolet Vectra interior

But yeah Chevrolet Vectra is an Astra lol

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Well, it’s literally the same platform as the Astra

^^

Btw…

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The display if from the Astra G btw (among others)

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I hate people

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The radio design is also from like the Corsa C and Vectra C, Meriva A etc. But now a unit which was used in Europe

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Christ

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And yes, that’s the expensive variant that can fold

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🤬

Thank god I kept the old ones

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I never fold my mirrors 👀

Well almost never

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Was able to salvage some parts from them

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But aren't the internals alright so you can swap them in the old units

Ah gg

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Mine are electrically powered, it becomes a habit pressing that button when leaving the car

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True

Mine are just manual

🚀

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^^

You need a special switch for them, and no one had the combo rear+power folding in stock

had to order them from Opel itself, 140€ -.-

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OOF F

Well it's still available

So that's nice

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mm

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Can't really place the AC unit tho

I thought it was a redesign of the controls on the Corsa C/Astra G/Meriva A but it's display is narrower

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I just checked the price for ONE new foldable mirror, wanna guess?

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Maybe also a more generic GM model

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€450