cars

[charred depot]

Im not sure why theyd have had high beams on as its not dark

But ive seen plenty of minis just as bad when they absolutely wouldnt have had high beams on

however, range rover drivers when they can see great!

[stoic ledge]

[jovial mauve]

just beam m back

beam them to the moon

[charred depot]

but ive already lost 3 months off my eyes when its a very modern car

[charred depot]

I wish other people could "see" another car coming without seeing it. Perhaps my high beams just arent bright enough.

[stoic ledge]

I also give them the high beam treatment

[charred depot]

my high beams are candles compared to theirs :^(

need to get some massive aux lights on the front like they have in sweden

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[charred depot]

probably illegal, deserved: yes

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[jovial mauve]

i can beam them into oblivion with the like 4 lights i have

[charred depot]

my right headlight is stuck on max dip yet it passed an MOT

alot of things on my car which are eeeeee probably shouldnt have passed

Im hoping he can gloss over the fucked windscreen on my peugeot too

tempting to gut them and install projectors inside but doesent bother me too much

[fathom socket]

Mini r50 is a little susceptible to being blinded from the front

If a rangerover/suv abomination is behind me both my mirrors just become two flashbangs

[stiff burrow]

I like GMs infotainment setup, it’s clean and efficient

But I’m biased, many people in my family work there :p

I like the new civics interior too

Another car that I like the interior of is the new g90

Very classy

What the heck was that??

[stoic ledge]

🤔

[deep zealot]

Does brake temperature affect how fast or slow it brakes

[carmine summit]

the only problem with GM vehicles is that they aren't german or ford

which means they're under-engineered a lot of the time

[charred depot]

yees

if you put wace car brakes in your daily they will be shit as will not get hot enough to work properly and if you take your shitbox with OE brakes you will have them get too hot and fade out fast

[dense shard]

Considering BMW is facing a class action for cup holders killing airbags and making the car undrivable...

I'll take underengineered.

Literally any automaker who puts electronics in the cupholder needs to be made fun of.

https://www.motor1.com/news/555449/bmw-lawsuit-cupholder-design-flaw/

[carmine summit]

BMWs need as many airbags as possible since people who drive new 3 series never signal and are bound to cause an accident

besides, they make their recalls in a timely manner when they do happen

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maggiemcgrath/2014/06/30/general-motors-recalls-another-7-million-vehicles-some-dating-back-to-1997/?sh=127339941dac

https://www.vox.com/2014/10/3/18073458/gm-car-recall

[viscid atlas]

@steel geode soupra

[stoic ledge]

Laughs in German GM Opel

Anyway, any brand has quite some recalls nowadays

[vocal mural]

Is PSA Opel better than GM Opel?

[stoic ledge]

Well idk, GM Opel was doing quite well just before they were acquired by PSA (now Stellantis). The Grandland (X) and Crossland (X) were the first PSA Opel's, however they were already designed when still under GM. So not really a full PSA/Stellantis Opel. Corsa was actually made under the PSA name, however using a platform PSA already developed for the 208 without any input, just an Opel body/interior put on it xD

I think the real PSA/Stellantis Opel's, in which Opel had a say during the development of platforms, are still to come. SO we shall see how that turns out. I am quite curious to see the new Astra, it's a great looking car imho with great promises, and it really shows the direct Opel is trying to move to. I think it'll be a great success, especially when the BEV version is coming in late 2022/early 2023.

Although I do think peak GM Opel was actually the last GM Opel: the Insignia. That is truly a very good car, underappreciated as it's in a dying segment and people just want cross-overs 🤮

[stoic ledge]

Astra:

[clear flame]

I traced it (How is it?)

[clear flame]

Anyone??

[fierce vine]

VW caddy mk2 me and a friend restorated over the last few weeks

[lunar bane]

anyone know why my 2009 clio keeps randomly giving me battery low alerts whilst driving? The car starts perfect every time and such

[fierce vine]

Looks good, only under the grill and the wind shield look a bit wired to me, apart from that tho very nice tracing

[fierce vine]

I'd check if the battery Leeds are connected well, and if that's fine maybe check the alternator?
But I'm no mechanic so take my coment with a grain of salt.

[lunar bane]

I was on a country road last night with high beams on and noticed they went dimmer when it gave me the alert

I'm thinking water might be making the alternator belt slip as its gotten worse with winter?

[fierce vine]

I think a broken/ falling alternator is more likely but yea that culd also be

[lunar bane]

Do you know if that is an expensive fix?

When the cars idle everything kind of like flickers too, like my headlights and interior lights go dimmer and lighter again

[fierce vine]

Alternators are about 100€ were I'm from

[lunar bane]

reckon i could replace it myself if needed?

[fierce vine]

I'd rate it a 6/10 on difficulty purely because you need to mess with the v belt, if the v belt wasent there it would be 3/10

[lunar bane]

but doable?

[fierce vine]

Yea

Just wach a few videos first, I can recommend the ones by Chris fix it, he usually has good tutorials on this kind of stuff

[lunar bane]

i did get my battery health checked the first time it did it and they said my battery was fine, so you reckon its likely?

[fierce vine]

It's defenetly a possibility

[lunar bane]

However, a very simple way to check if the alternator is working is to run the car and disconnect the positive terminal of the battery. If the vehicle stops running, then you probably have a bad alternator. this a good way to check?

[fierce vine]

Yes

[lunar bane]

I did it and the car is still running but lights .etc are flickering pretty bad, and flicker more when i rev, probably alternator?

And if i put on my high beams the radio just stops working

Yup just stalled

Wonderful

[dense shard]

Alternator for sure

It'll either be easy or nearly impossible

Some automakers place it sanely

Some less so

[fathom socket]

so I have jump starter cables

they are unable to jump start my Car

so I was mad, and I've grabbed my 3 mm speaker wire and it worked flawlessly.

[charred depot]

excuse me what

[fathom socket]

the 3 mm speaker cable is able to get more current than my "400" amp jump start cables

I think they are made of amelinium

[charred depot]

ill see it to believe it

[fathom socket]

maybe during the day I'll record it

apparently in theory the cable can handle 380 amps

more or less

[jovial mauve]

Natural habitat

[fierce vine]

in that case your starter cables are probably broken

also 3mm speaker wire will verry likely catch fire if the car is drawing the apreg that it shuld

[fathom socket]

new purchase:

[stoic ledge]

🅱️olvo

[steep tundra]

i love it!

[fathom socket]

my latest purchase:

[stoic ledge]

Fake, that's hatchback

😉

[stoic ledge]

Fake that's a Break, you have an SW

😉

[stoic ledge]

OOF

😂

[stiff burrow]

Toyota celica

[fathom socket]

which one is your favorite?
white, orange or blue?

[fathom socket]

Wait

Are those cars sized?

[hollow frigate]

Real quick, thoughts on a "2014 Chevrolet Impala LTZ Sedan 4D"

[hollow frigate]

orange looks fuckin badass

[stiff burrow]

It’s a fine car, nothing special. Why do you ask?

[hollow frigate]

local listing for about 10 grand

124k miles

its peaked my interest

[stiff burrow]

That’s a pretty good price in todays market

[fathom socket]

I got this for 1300 euros

Just has few dents and scratches

[stiff burrow]

😂

[fathom socket]

if your car is 2.3m wide, 1.9m high, 3.4m long and does have 135x65cm tires, then yes.

[fathom socket]

Apparently the jumper starter cable is thinner inside than the speaker wire

[jovial mauve]

my friend lost his license

press F to laugh

[haughty ridge]

Oof, what did he do?

[fathom socket]

Did he go 101kmh in city?

[jovial mauve]

no 40+ over speed limit while being a ''beginner driver''

not in a city tho

or a village

[civic spoke]

That would be enough to lose your license in most places.

If they were really nice. Then they could have knocked it down to 29 kmh over.

[haughty ridge]

Oof, a friend of mine recently got a new car and wanted to show it. He drove about 200Kph on the highway in the Netherlands.

[fathom socket]

eeem. What?

I'm scared to drive 80 kmh there

[haughty ridge]

Yeah lol, he would've been screwed if he got caught. The fastest I ever drive is 120-130 kph.

But only after 19:00

[fathom socket]

traveling in netherlands is pain

but Truck driving in germany is too

[haughty ridge]

Why? The roads are good.

[fathom socket]

let's say I've encountered a lot of butthole drivers

[haughty ridge]

Maybe navigation can be a bit difficult in bigger cities.

[fathom socket]

and 100 kmh limit

[haughty ridge]

Yeah, but butthole drivers are everywhere.

[fathom socket]

I think I have a dashcam video of someone almost ramming on the highway

[haughty ridge]

Oof, had the same once. Someone was switching lanes and didn't bother to look to the left where I was. Luckily I could avoid it in time

[fathom socket]

I have wayy too many vids of me driving on the wrong side of the road

[haughty ridge]

I never wanna drive in England, it would be so confusing for me.

[fathom socket]

I drove Semitrucks in there

[haughty ridge]

Why can't they just drive on the correct side of the road

[fathom socket]

Too many vids to find it

[stiff burrow]

Fastest I’ve ever driven is 127 mph (204 kmh) - not in my car however

That was trying to get away from a road raging asshole on the highway though

[fathom socket]

Fastest I've driven was 185 kmh

I ran out of power

[flint sable]

107 mph on an on ramp

(I wasn’t the one driving FYI, fastest I’ve gone is like 80 lol)

[stiff burrow]

I usually go 79 because the police don’t care but once you go 80+ they will pull you over

We don’t have speed cameras so I’m not too worried about getting pulled over anyway

[charred depot]

I have a private road now but its concrete and always wet with lots of bends. I imagine I can get to over 100 in the saab if im ambitious but may end up in the ditch.

[fathom socket]

im scared to drive less than 110 on the road

[jovial mauve]

i have done this as well so im guilty 😛

[haughty ridge]

Lol, I've never done it. I don't wanna lose my license

[jovial mauve]

i mean yeah me neither but you know sometimes the moment is to good to pass up xd

at least your doing it on the highway instead of like a 80 road

[charred depot]

throwback to saab being total heap of shit

tyres change everything

[dense shard]

Tesla Appears To Be Selling New Cars With Batteries From 2017

https://flip.it/co.YV4

Soon they'll start putting refurbs into new Teslas

[stoic ledge]

Yikes

[fathom socket]

It feels like buying new car with used engine

Ford did not want people to replace their own headlight bulbs 😐

[fathom socket]

I've seen worse

i have too

The 2012-2013ish accord

Gotta remove the bumper to access the headlight housing

I think there was even worse

lemme guess

Something german

French

Funny thing

renault twingo?

hue

I have French car and it's super easy to change bulbs

[fathom socket]

Modus

Are you the guy with the 206

I'm the guy with 307 św

I used to have focus and I had to get under the car to unscrew headlights so I could change the stupid bulb

At the end I've said don't screw it down there

Wish we had peugeot/renault in the US

I wish we didn't

[charred depot]

The hyundai annoys me the most because there is so much free space

actual troll whoever designed that

[fathom socket]

Opposum might like to nest there

[jovial mauve]

And here am i com0laining when my cat walks over my car

[stoic ledge]

We have martens here, or used to have, Haven't seen/heard them in a while. We put a wireframe underneath the car

[stoic ledge]

Maybe you'll get rebadged Peugeots now in the US, rebadged as Dodge or something

[fathom socket]

oh god

introducing the 2022 Dodge 108

with a blistering 67 brake horsepower of pure american badge engineering

[stoic ledge]

Yes 🚀

But they're discontinuing the 108

So don't worry

[fathom socket]

we sort of have a few eurocars here

the sandero is a nissan sentra with a different motor i believe

wait no, it's the Juke, the uglist car here

[stoic ledge]

Don't think so

Well neither is the Juke tbh

Juke might share a platform with the Renault Captur and the Dacia Duster? Not sure

Dodge 508 wouldn't look too bad

Yeah Nissan Sentra shares a platform with the Renault Megane and stuff like that, but the car is completely different otherwise

Nissan Juke and Renault Captur 2 are apparently also the same platform

As I thought

But again, completely different cars

Ah and the Dacia Duster and the Nissan Kicks share the same platform

[vocal mural]

Finally, from 1st of January 2022, the range from OV Chipkaart will extend to Emmerich, Elten and Praest. You should be using the Arriva pole. (Source: VRR)
Well, time to go to Emmerich every week and buy some beer, wurst and schnitzel at Kaufland then

[pearl tiger]

200km from my place 😄

[charred depot]

paying for GM's mistake 😤

[pearl tiger]

atleast this is great 😄 https://i.nycotrix.de/img2461018.png

[charred depot]

ez

I honestly thought it would be more than 15 hours

probably doesent include the waiting for the train and going on it

[stoic ledge]

Imagine being allowed on the train with your car

My car can´t because LPG is scary

[charred depot]

huh

[charred depot]

it would be fun to go but having such a pos ehh

suppose I can get eu breakdown cover

[pearl tiger]

hm maybe next year i gotta drive again on the ring D:

[stiff burrow]

lucky...

[stoic ledge]

I'd say go for it

[stiff burrow]

there is a track 15 mins from my house however 😏

[stoic ledge]

[charred depot]

im next to the only proper race track in scotland and the only proper drift track

£200-300 for a day is a bit above what im willing to pay. maybe one time

[stiff burrow]

i think you have to have a garage there to track your cars though, idk for sure

i have family that goes there all the time but ive never gone personally

not super interested in tracking my car tbh, i just like to cruise around

[stoic ledge]

I've only driven on a track once in my friends Miata

[stiff burrow]

sounds like fun

[stoic ledge]

Which wasn't a great experience because
a) it's not your car so your very careful ofc
b) I didn't fit

[stiff burrow]

lol

[charred depot]

have a friend that does dorifting, suprisingly cheap over here tyre wise because its always fuckin wet

[stiff burrow]

in my area we have this thing called the woodward dream cruise, basically a bunch of people with classic cars cruise down the main road of the area

it's pretty cool

that's my kind of event 😂

[charred depot]

yet to see another pre 2000 car this month that isnt mine or my friends

just a shitbox in a sea of 2017+ plates

[stiff burrow]

:'(

[vocal mural]

It looks like the classic American car week that is held in the middle of Sweden every year

[stiff burrow]

That’s awesome :D

[timber oar]

I spy a late 70s firebird with ttops

[dense shard]

Hopefully my Jeep stops pretending to be a BMW today

And the turn signals work

[fathom socket]

New F150 towing an old F150 corpse

F

Wish I could tow cars

But can't tow anything heavier than the cars own weight

[carmine summit]

Less than an hour from my dorm, less than 2 hours from my house

Don't be surprised if you see my car somewhere in Michigan after winter is over

[charred depot]

I hate how much a donk the 305 is

see so much of the rear wheels

[fathom socket]

Your choice of word is extravagant

'donk'

[dense shard]

As much as I want a new WRX.

They don't feel that special considering how many I see around here.

[civic girder]

I mean, they aren't special anyways

Its outdated

[dense shard]

Sure, but as far as compact cars go. They feel exceptionally common in Bismarck.

And there is a new WRX. New platform, new engine, and everything.

[civic girder]

oh right

[dense shard]

But even the new one will be common soon.

[civic girder]

I keep forgetting bc it looks like the crosstrek

[dense shard]

I wish.

A crosstrek with a turbo 2.4 and manual? please

Tho weirdly a lot of automakers are keeping safety features off the manual models.

... did Toyota fuck up by including all that stuff in my XSE?

Lane keep assist, collision mitigation, radar cruise control... like why can't Subaru do it on the WRX?

That last one is a total game changer.

[civic girder]

yea idk

but also, toyota can't include blind spot monitoring standard

[dense shard]

And at this point blind spot monitoring should be standard on all cars

[civic girder]

And while Honda's shit sucks, its at least standard

[dense shard]

People kinda suck at mirrors

And yeah. BSM was kind of a a huge thing for me.

9999 out of 10000 times I'm fine. But it catches me that one time, and pays for itself.

[civic girder]

That's partly why I swung honda, even tho I regret not just going Toyota

[dense shard]

Mainly because I feel less stupid.

Both automakers have done stupid shit to cool me to buying another.

Both remain excellent automakers.

[civic girder]

I think I'd be happier with the Corolla Hybrid overall. The Honda has a better infotainment and slightly more standard safety features......and that's literally it

[dense shard]

I'd have to test drive em, the Insight is super compelling.

Accord hybrid > Camry hybrid on features alone

[civic girder]

I liked Toyotas safety shit better, and the auto highbeams were easier to turn off permanently.

Accord Hybrid gets way worse highway mpg

its the same story for the Insight

[dense shard]

I mostly commute on side roads.

[civic girder]

that's my biggest complaint, but I knew what I was getting into so I can't honestly say anything

city mpg is leagues better than the Toyotas for the exact reason it's highway mpg is relatively poor

You're not getting 65mpg city in a Prius

[dense shard]

I appreciate the prius offers AWD

[civic girder]

yea, its pretty expensive tho

I haven't seen very many awd Prius for that reason alone

[dense shard]

Not many of those in ND period.

But the only ones they have on sale are AWD

I'm hoping the next gen that drops will be compelling

[stiff burrow]

with the rise of electric cars i think many safety features will be standard

[fathom socket]

heh... my e-up does have an attention-system camouflaged as lane assist.
occasionally it beeps and a second after tries to turn the steering off the road or into the other lane.
sometimes it takes 5 minutes, sometimes 3 times in 30 seconds.

its everything but a 'safety'feature 😄

so i own an electric car.
but my next one will be a gasoline

i miss the roawr and the smell.
what i dont miss is the gasoline station 🤣

[warm temple]

Shitbox Sunday 😂

[tidal river]

Car. Voom voom.

[vocal mural]

Drive that into water please

[tidal river]

Why?

Nissan Skyline 300GT Sport 2001. It’s pretty tidy and straight for a 20 year old car.

[fathom socket]

sidefact: with that ATV im about to get, i can drive in water. 👍

[fathom socket]

^

[vocal mural]

@stoic ledge Another broken Stellantis

[stoic ledge]

Ok 👍

[harsh karma]

Car tinting laws should be revised

Theres now high quality tints that are 5% vlt, but its not dark inside

[stoic ledge]

It's for looking inside and making eye contact with the driver

[harsh karma]

Some are actually because of safety

if its a bad tint, which is super dark, u will crash and die

[vocal mural]

The front right steering axle have broken on that Citroën when making a right turn

[jovial mauve]

F

[jovial mauve]

im curious why

nice ass

[jovial mauve]

@stoic ledge this video i think its for you 😛

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24P7ebQ52-E

[stoic ledge]

[jovial mauve]

this was me tho when i had the golf so many meetings

always the farts

[stiff burrow]

A merc with real exhaust tips :O

[jovial mauve]

wel could be worse could be audi 😛

my a had fake tips but at least he had one on each side so in the cold you could see it

its worse when cars have 2 exhaust but only like one working 😛

[stiff burrow]

True

[jovial mauve]

fake tips

[fathom socket]

1.6?

[jovial mauve]

yes

[vocal mural]

🤔

[jovial mauve]

fixed under warranty i assume

[vocal mural]

Next MOT 11-01

[fathom socket]

tfw UK has super cheap used german cars for under $1500 USD but a clean non-M e46 goes for $8000 USD in the USA

[stoic ledge]

Well RHD cars have way less of an export market so less worth overall used

[fathom socket]

running parts car

[stoic ledge]

It's quite common in mainland Europe to find a RHD UK parts car as it's waaay cheaper

[fathom socket]

wots a ken livingstone era nih-sahn zed go for over there?

[stoic ledge]

Wot?

[jovial mauve]

Yes RHD is comm9n here on high end cars, or they are used for parts

The price difference is criminal

[civic spoke]

No one really wants right hand driven cars.

[jovial mauve]

Not sure if true but a chopshop guy once told me they import alot of UK cars because the laws they are considered total faster then herr thus they strip m for parts

Or fix them

[civic spoke]

Hell. I know that some people import UK cars just because they are that much cheaper. And then build them up for track use.

[fathom socket]

Artifact left of my focus

[timber oar]

Theres a guy that goes to my school

Don't really know him

But he has a right hand drive Sti

[rugged forge]

[flint sable]

Enjoy!

The only reason my family hasn’t gotten a Tesla yet is range

Speaking of range

My mom somehow found 93 octane gas for under 2$ a gallon

Got a full tank for under 30$

[fathom socket]

what ranges do u drive?

[stiff burrow]

do you live in wyoming or something 🤨

how did you find gas that low??

[flint sable]

P.A

I don’t know how

Normally it’s over 4$

[stiff burrow]

yeah, lowest i've found is 3.79

thats good but also really strange lol

[stiff burrow]

Enjoy it!

Share in the floatplane chat too, lots of other tesla ppl there

[fathom socket]

Meanwhile Netherlands with 8.50 USD per gallon

[stoic ledge]

🚀

Only 8.5

Cheap

[fathom socket]

That's what I saw last time where I was there

At least I had lpg then

Now I don't

[stoic ledge]

Ah yeah you're about right

It dropped a bit then

Tbh I drive 90% in Belgium so I don't see often the Dutch prices

Cheapest premium petrol is still over 9USD/gal

[fathom socket]

So I would have go put gas in Germany

Then go to Belgium and put gas there and then go to Germany

[stoic ledge]

Super Bleifrei

[fathom socket]

Also why gasoline and diesel seemed still reasonable

[stoic ledge]

Germany often has 95 E5 👌

[fathom socket]

Honestly I don't know much about petrol

[stoic ledge]

Well if you're crossing from Belgium to Germany via 🇳🇱 you're only travelling a short distance through 🇳🇱 so you probably don't need to refuel

[stoic ledge]

It's the standard petrol but with less ethanol

[fathom socket]

Idk if I can make it

I would need to have a Jerry can on hand

[stoic ledge]

[stiff burrow]

Normal gas/petrol is E10 - 10% Ethanol.
E5 has 5%

[fathom socket]

I don't really like the Mercedes electric lineup's design

[iron mortar]

I got a 1948 ford mercury suicide

Doors*

[timber oar]

Ahhh sounds like a cool car

[civic spoke]

Range normally isn't even an issue with EV. Since if you charge at home, then you can start with the full range each day.

[warm temple]

Uhh bois

Don’t think it’s supposed to be like that 😂

This is why I tell people to not park by my fuckin stalls 😂

[jovial mauve]

nah its fine its extra cooling

[warm temple]

Lol it melted the radiator

Had to do a regen on that black truck today and ofc Dodge had go park their shit behind it so bye bye $60k car

[civic spoke]

It's surprising how agile wheel loaders can be.

[vocal mural]

Star Elten, 20 min €1,66 per liter

While in Doesburg

[fathom socket]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Up12msdV8KA?feature=share

Man I didn't know changing a fuel cap on BMW was so complicated

[charred depot]

farmer el special

[stoic ledge]

https://youtu.be/7_9aVzf5fC4

[stiff burrow]

Lol

[cloud vine]

250€ for spark plugs ouch

[jovial mauve]

I need to change my driving style im using so much fueeeeeul

[charred depot]

mah dinero!

[fathom socket]

Can't imagine paying almost 1 euro per mile

[charred depot]

I get around 28mpg with it now but I should be able to achieve 40 soon

Cant wait till peugeots on the road, will save me a fair bit of dinero.

[fathom socket]

I get 9l/100km combined with my puegeout

[late sand]

mom's clio does 11l/100km at the speed of 170km/h

[fathom socket]

[stoic ledge]

Imagine doing that with 9USD/gallon

[fathom socket]

Wat

Gas is $3

Miss when it was 1.89

[dawn hazel]

dad?

[stoic ledge]

Not here

[stoic ledge]

That's what we pay per liter. In € .

[fathom socket]

[stoic ledge]

[fathom socket]

1968 Dodge Dart GTS

[fathom socket]

Love being stuck at rail crossing for like hour

[vocal mural]

In Poland

PKP : Polnisches Kaputte Pferde 😆

[charred depot]

The all new VAG bus
Emissions: ✅

[pearl tiger]

im not made for this weather

[fathom socket]

@stoic ledge the guys has fixed the Tucson and they broke it now it's gone. I'm very sad I know it's silly to have feelings for a car but it never let us down when we go places.

Now I cry more

[stoic ledge]

Wait they fixed it but they broke it again?

[fathom socket]

They crashed it right out of the place

Now my brother has no car rip

[civic girder]

holy fuck, give me that Justy

Brat/Justy and SVX are my dream Subies

[viral raptor]

Oh that's from my country lmao

[vocal mural]

That is from Finland

[viral raptor]

Yeah

[stiff burrow]

Does anybody know why European cars have tachometers at a scale of RPM x100 but most other cars have it at a scale of RPM x1000

[civic girder]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

do you know why the UK uses miles, but its miles are different than US miles?

[stiff burrow]

Oh they are different? I did not know that

[civic girder]

Pretty sure they are. I mean, why else would UK and US mpg be different

[stiff burrow]

I think that’s because a U.S. gal is different from an imperial gal

[vocal mural]

Actually the Dutch meter and kilo is (very minimalistic) different from the French

[civic girder]

I thought the US used imperial

so wouldn't that make the uk gal the weird one

[vocal mural]

The foot from Elizabeth is quite smaller than from Biden 😆

The inch ≈2,5cm is deviated from thumb and the foot from the length of feet ≈30cm 👣

[charred depot]

the pwopah imperial gallon is the british one

our fuel gets sold by the litre and we get our economy as mpg because makes sense

[stoic ledge]

Do they? Idk, we've only had European cars and they all had RPM x1000 on them

[stiff burrow]

Maybe it is only a few brands or older cars

[stiff burrow]

But look at this

[stoic ledge]

No the miles are the same, it's the gallons

1 UK Gallon = 4.54 liters
1 US Gallon = 3.78 liters

[civic girder]

either way UK is the odd one out

[stoic ledge]

Wait we had a 307... how do I not remember this?

[civic girder]

I just guessed it was miles

[stoic ledge]

I do know French cars often have "odd" speed numbers tho (10-30-50-70-90-110-130-150)

[stiff burrow]

Another example

[stoic ledge]

Which makes sense in France as those are often the speed limits

Wait I checked mine

It also had x100

LOL

[stiff burrow]

[stoic ledge]

Nice

Ok never mind then

[stiff burrow]

Lul

[charred depot]

what would make it the odd one out?

[stiff burrow]

From my car

[pearl tiger]

wait this is correct one

[charred depot]

mine

[stoic ledge]

Hmmm General Motors actually differentiated there between the US and EU gauge clusters I see... where our Meriva also has x100, a Chevrolet Cruze has x1000 even though it's the same cluster otherwise

Idk why that is tbh

[civic girder]

Being a metric country but using random modified imperial measurements for no reason

[charred depot]

The imperial gallon is the UK one.

[civic girder]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

maybe I'm wrong idk

[charred depot]

us is the one that modified it

[stoic ledge]

According to Wikipedia, Ged is correct
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallon

[civic girder]

interesting

I would've never known otherwise tbh

based US education system

[stiff burrow]

Lol

[stoic ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/happy4th-of-july-independence-day-american-flag-will-ferrell-gif-12111246

[stiff burrow]

The US really should change to metric

But at this point I think that’s impossible 😂

Imagine how much it would cost to change

[charred depot]

just use both 4head

[stiff burrow]

Based UK

[stoic ledge]

@stiff burrow I've checked our previous cars... the seem to be all over the place xD

• Opel's: Corsa C x1000, Corsa D Meriva B (+ all modern ones) x100
• Peugeot? 307 x100, 308 and 208 x1000
• BMW? x1000
• Dacia? x1000
• Fiat? x100
• Volvo V40? Digital x1000
• VW Polo? x1000
  So idk it even might differ per make/model/...

[stiff burrow]

Interesting

[charred depot]

I dont think my peugeot has a tach :^|

[stiff burrow]

Might just be a design/regional localization choice

But who knows

[stoic ledge]

Probably just what they thought fit the design better lol

[stiff burrow]

Yeah

[stoic ledge]

Don't think's a real system for it

Only thing I've seen now are like digital tachometers which display like 0.7 x100 rpm

Which I hate

I mean, just write 700 rpm

It's digital

It'll even take up less space

[stoic ledge]

Not like this, this is fine

Wait lemme see if I can find a pic of what I mean

[stiff burrow]

That’s horrible

Ik what u mean though

Like an actual number not a digital gauge

[stoic ledge]

New F150 for examle

[stiff burrow]

Ew

[stoic ledge]

Massive 2.8

Like why

Also no numbers on the fake gauge

Why

[stiff burrow]

I noticed that too

that’s the worst digital dash I’ve ever seen

[stoic ledge]

Yeah same

[charred depot]

the cluster I got out of the broken for parts saab goes up to to 160mph with its impressive aerodynamics id love to see it get to that speed

[stiff burrow]

Actually I think it’s fine aside from the tach

But why put the picture of the car there lol

[stoic ledge]

Well I'd also like to see numbers on the gauge

Now the gauge is completely useless

[charred depot]

my current one goes to 155, why they needed a different one for 5mph more i dont know

[stiff burrow]

Yea

[stoic ledge]

So you can admire it while going 48 mph

Idk

[stoic ledge]

Not a diesel vs gas difference?

[charred depot]

both petrols

[stoic ledge]

0.0 x1000 rpm

[pearl tiger]

mine goes to 220kph but vmax is 180.. downhill on autobahn i reached 210

[stiff burrow]

I love the Audi R8 digital dash, it’s so nice

[charred depot]

I got most of a 2001 9-3 Turbo for my 1995 900

I thought it would be usb plug and play but lmao no

[stiff burrow]

Lol nice

[stoic ledge]

I quite like the old Volvo digital dash, it's digital but still has physical elements to it

[stiff burrow]

That’s cool

[pearl tiger]

I like my dash

[charred depot]

photos of dashes cannot be taken while stationary, tru fact

[stiff burrow]

Early C4 corvettes had a digital dash too, kind of hard to read but it looks very cool

[stoic ledge]

Doesn't Lexus have like a movable instrument cluster? 😛

[stiff burrow]

I like this it’s very simple and easy to read

[stoic ledge]

Oeh yeah love those 80s digital dashes

[pearl tiger]

Seat dash xd

[stoic ledge]

80's Astra GSi

[charred depot]

perfection

[stiff burrow]

Just noticed that the C4 has a tach scale of x100 lul

[stiff burrow]

I like that too

Lol your car has mini wipers for the headlights

Never seen that before

[stoic ledge]

Oh yeah loads of Swedisch cars had that

So did Volvo's

[charred depot]

it crys alot

[stoic ledge]

I think Mercedes also had them for a while?

[charred depot]

pug

[stoic ledge]

Well quite a few brands

But Saab and Volvo the most and the longest

[stiff burrow]

Interesting

[charred depot]

id be thoroughly impressed if the peugeot got to 110mph

[stoic ledge]

Quite cool such a row of lights xD

[stiff burrow]

I’ve heard of cars with headlight washers before but never wipers lol

[charred depot]

they are suprisingly useful

this

[stoic ledge]

Headlight washers used to be mandated with Xenon headlights in Europe

[stiff burrow]

Yea

[stoic ledge]

Idk if they still are tbh

[charred depot]

I used to have to stop and wipe my headlights in the mazda 2 because the light output would get super reduced by dirt

[stoic ledge]

I know they aren't with LED's

[charred depot]

M539 had to fit washers to his E46 when he put xenons in

for toov

[stoic ledge]

[tall grove]

so that new Don't Buy a Tesla video

[stoic ledge]

Tractor noises 👌

[stoic ledge]

Same

[tall grove]

Title seems like quite the bad take, especially considering how so much of the video was dedicated to talking about how safe the volvo is when the tesla model y has higher safety ratings

[stoic ledge]

They changed it

It was This Car is Basically a Smartphone

[tall grove]

Still bad but at least better than the current title

[stoic ledge]

Too bad the Model Y gives you an eye infection when you look at it

That's not safe at all

[tall grove]

kekw, this volvo isn't much of a looker

[stoic ledge]

A million times better than the Tesla

[charred depot]

I hate new cars equally :^)

actually no

[stoic ledge]

Also I'd trust Volvo way more than Tesla

The Swedish manufacturers are known for testing their cars waay more safety wise

Tesla is know to sell an untested vehicle and then let the customers test it

[tall grove]

big oof, tesla has very thorough crash tests https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KR2N_Q8ep8

[stoic ledge]

https://youtu.be/kM_6EY7T5To

So does Volvo

[tall grove]

how about https://insideevs.com/news/551040/tesla-models-crash-cliff-uninjured/

seems pretty damn safe to me

[charred depot]

poor guy if thats one of their tests

hope he was paid well

[stiff burrow]

I would not buy a Tesla

But I think they’re pretty cool

[tall grove]

naw that's an accident from a customer, who survived driving off a cliff with only scratches

[charred depot]

im joking

[stoic ledge]

I'm not saying they're unsafe, tbh basically any car is safe nowadays

I'd still trust Volvo more

[tall grove]

rereading in this context that's pretty funny

[charred depot]

you have cliffs and you have cliffs where the cliff photo

[tall grove]

yea I'd like to see that too

best I can do is puerto rico

I found some other article saying it was a 100 feet below the cliff

https://auto.hindustantimes.com/auto/news/how-safe-is-a-tesla-this-model-s-falls-off-cliff-driver-escapes-with-scratch-41637991881643.html

[charred depot]

looks like it nearly spent all the time with its wheels facing down

could attribute that to chonk of battery weight low down

[stoic ledge]

https://youtu.be/A3Agd_YGDu0

[fathom socket]

Volvo is the designer of modern seatbelts today and this was from the 70s or 60s

May have to look up again

I hate that too they still keep their high beams and I use low beams they evil

https://youtu.be/CiQNPGhK8Lc @charred depot

That's the next thing I will install on my truck to pay back them

[lunar bane]

I usually just flash my high beams at them when that happens and they turn theirs off

[fathom socket]

I can try that

[lunar bane]

Its a pain on country roads, cause everyone uses high beams but unless its a bmw driver they're usually left on by accident

[charred depot]

by the time they turn them off my poor retinas which havent seen sunlight this month have suffered

[lunar bane]

Thats true

some high beams can leave you half blind for scary lengths of time

[full wedge]

Just watched this and, wow Volvo is Confident with all their tests.

[fathom socket]

Back then this was called bright, now its the low beam on most modern luxury SUVs \s

[fathom socket]

this is why you must fight back

[viscid atlas]

I mean its Volvo, the next step up from them are usually something like a crusader tank

[vocal mural]

@stoic ledge I didnt know Stellantis made a game together with Paradox

[crude grove]

Hey which you think has a better sound? Ferrari SF90 or La Ferrari?

[fathom socket]

Honda at 3am

[vocal mural]

VW Lupo with broken exhaust (Joe Black video)

https://youtu.be/eVLln37dP8c

[viscid atlas]

@crude grove La Ferrari

And Enzo sounds better than both

[jovial mauve]

I need to un straight pipe my car

Its to much on the highway

[viscid atlas]

@jovial mauve no.... Really

Idk how people have the idea of "ah yes ill straight pipe and itll be nice to drive on the roads". Just get a nice cat back ffs

[jovial mauve]

I did not straight pipe it

Bought as is

As soon as you go above 2k rpm you hit the drone zone below that its fine

Bit driving like 140 is annoyinf af

Now i need one with a valve system

[fathom socket]

how to change a headlight bulb

Step 1: remove the entire headlight from the vehicle 😐

[warm sparrow]

could be worst

step 1: remove the entire front bumper from the vehicle

step 2: remove the healight

[vocal mural]

3: Put in LED bulb

4: Screw back in place

5: Adjust

[warm sparrow]

step 5: you put back everything together but it doesn't work, please refer to step 1

step 6 then

[stoic ledge]

Please don't put LED's in reflector headlights

[vocal mural]

There are special (E marked) LED bulbs to put in reflector headlights, but expensive

[stoic ledge]

Sadly most people use AliExpress LED's

So it's 🤮

Because why spending €90 on Philips LED E/ECE bulbs when you can pay 4.71 on AliExpress

Hell 4.71 is even less than I paid for the halogen bulbs

[warm sparrow]

reflector ?

[civic spoke]

Normal halogen headlights. LED's messes up the beams and stuff.

[warm sparrow]

ah

so led only behind a lens 🤔

[charred depot]

yesthx

[charred depot]

that wasnt highbeams at the start :^|

[dense shard]

I do need to upgrade the jeep headlights

[jovial mauve]

Friend got new car today for his GF

i quite like it

nice interior as well and almost full option i think

[charred depot]

My friend might be selling his brat. I like it but I feel he may find an offer of £2k a bit insulting.

[desert oxide]

if anyone knows about scooters

i plan to do a minarelli swap onto a gy6 frame

[jovial mauve]

you mis all the shots you never take

[charred depot]

he wants £3.5k 🗿

[stoic ledge]

Looks like a GT-Line which is the top model yes

And top model GT-Line comes with all the bells and whistles, don't think there were more options available

[jovial mauve]

from what he told me it is GT line yes, but its missing memory seats / digital dash / and adaptive cruise

[stoic ledge]

Oof just checked the plate, even has 4WD, that's quite rare for an original Dutch car

[jovial mauve]

but it has all the other things heated seats vented seats sunroof etc etc etc

no LED tho just Xenon

but maybe the daytime running lights are LED when i came over it was dark

[stoic ledge]

Did it come with a digital dash? Yeah maybe there was still something like GT-Line Plus option package which had those features

[jovial mauve]

i have no clue

[stoic ledge]

[jovial mauve]

i know nothing about Kia's

[stoic ledge]

NoKia

[jovial mauve]

Drives pretty good tho, it has like 180 hp i think wich is decent but i dont have ''fair'' reference material but as a daily it would be enough

[civic spoke]

KIA's are pretty alright these days.

[jovial mauve]

well its funny, because they also have the mazda i had a while back wich is same year i think, has alot of options like adaptive LED etc etc and was new 10k cheaper then this KIA in 2016

he told me they were of the same year i dont know for sure

[civic spoke]

Warranty for KIA's are also super nice.

[jovial mauve]

3 years for this one

thats quite nice yeah

[stoic ledge]

7 years

Yeah

[jovial mauve]

he said 3

[stoic ledge]

That's probably the remainder

[jovial mauve]

i will ask him maybe he has 7

[civic spoke]

The 3 years is probably just the leasing period?

[jovial mauve]

ooh yeah

thats also possible since its 2nd hand

[stoic ledge]

It's a car from 2016

[civic spoke]

Ahh.

[stoic ledge]

So 2016 + 7 = 2023 somewhere

[civic spoke]

So yeah. It has three years left.

Which is wicked for a used car.

[charred depot]

crikey 2022 soon

[civic spoke]

Warranty is from the point of sale, I think?

Original sale, that is.

[stoic ledge]

April 2016 apparently, so 2y4m left

[jovial mauve]

yeah its a nice car not something i would buy i think but it drives well has alot of tech its not really economic tho

[stoic ledge]

New 10k cheaper, but doubt it then also had AWD + automatic. This Kia had 13k of BPM on it, if the Mazda had ~3k that makes up the difference

[jovial mauve]

no it is an auto the mazda

[stoic ledge]

Well no AWD then

[jovial mauve]

they only have auto's

[stoic ledge]

And with auto, I don't think there was a 10k difference in-between it

[civic spoke]

Isn't the only manual Mazda sell the Miata? Need to check.

[stoic ledge]

Could be but I doubt

[jovial mauve]

no awd but it has like bose sound and the leds go with you when you steer a corner

[stoic ledge]

Nope I think every model is stillwater available with a manual

[jovial mauve]

memory seats heated and vented and all the saftey things

[charred depot]

you can get the new mazda 2 with a manuel im pretty sure

[jovial mauve]

i would havbe gone for the mazda then as well, i like it better the way it looks

[charred depot]

maybe UK is different

[civic spoke]

Yeah. I just checked. You can.

[stoic ledge]

Mazda 3, CX-30, CX-5 and 6 also

[civic spoke]

So yeah, I was wrong.

Forgot which it was manufacturer it was that only sold a single vehicle as a manual.

[charred depot]

this is interesting

I guess the manual is a hybrid?

and the automatic isnt

[jovial mauve]

im still happy with my car after owning it for a week

i just dont look when filling it uip

75 liters F

but hey gas was only 1,87 this morning

thats 13 cents cheapr i think

[charred depot]

If you want a good MPG mazda 2 you have to buy a manual, didnt know this is still a thing

[jovial mauve]

i dont have a mazda

[charred depot]

ok

[jovial mauve]

but i always thought automatics have better MPG?

[charred depot]

new ones atleast that should be true

I think they only offer the mild hybrid for the manuals for whatever reason

[late sand]

Work colleague bought one with a 7 year warranty that has no mileage limit

[charred depot]

does 250k miles a year, hey id like to make a warranty claim.

[late sand]

Even the Mazda 3 gets better MPG with a manual drivetrain

[charred depot]

sounds like a doesent cover general wear and tear cesspool

[stoic ledge]

"Hybrid" a.k.a Mild Hybrid, just a regular ICE with a powerful starter engine which can give a few hp as boost

[charred depot]

seems to be doing something to get 8mpg

[civic spoke]

Older automatics had worse fuel mileage, generally. But these days automatics have a dozen gears. So that you're able to cruise on the freeway not revving past 2,000 rpm

[late sand]

Well duh?

[stoic ledge]

Nice, but doesn't Kia have like a 160k km limit but 7 years, and Hyundai 5 years unlimited? Or is it another brand?

[late sand]

I could have confused it with a Hyunda you are most likey right

[late sand]

Sometimes making the acceleration really quick yet as smooth as if you weren't even moving

[civic spoke]

You know. I might just recommend my sister a KIA Cee'd or something.

[civic spoke]

Hate older slush-boxes. Newer ones really aren't bad.

[late sand]

A bit of jiggle is welcome by me, but not when it's cruiser boat territory

[civic spoke]

My sister is working on her driver's license. Sometime after that she'll want a vehicle for her, and the three kids.

[late sand]

Are Renault's available there?

[civic spoke]

Yeah. They are.

Swedenland.

I also told her to check on the Renaults.

[charred depot]

shame theres no cheap bolbos

well newish

[late sand]

The clio would be a great picks if not for the rear space and actual feeling, especially the diesel wagons feel pretty numb

It's not something for 3 passengers in the back

[civic spoke]

Oh, right. My sis will only be able to drive automatics to boot.

[late sand]

The automatic would extremely rarely refuse to switch gears on some instances

[civic spoke]

Doesn't look too bad.

That's honestly not a bad price, either. €15,000. Basically.

[charred depot]

not seen any of those as estates over here

[late sand]

Yeah especially with Scandinavian tax making the car more expensive at any purchase

[civic spoke]

2019 model year. With 38,000 km's on it.

[late sand]

And you won't be seeing them any time soon :/

[charred depot]

big boots for britin when

[late sand]

I don't know

[stoic ledge]

The discontinued the Estate

So probably never

If you want "more practicality", you now need to get a Captur (which is less practical but muh CUV)

But yeah Clio IV and V are quite good

[late sand]

Very good for what they have to offer

Especially with the higher zen trims

[stoic ledge]

Zen is a lower trim no?

[late sand]

Economy based

[stoic ledge]

Intense or something is higher, and then GT-Line and stuff

RS Line now

[late sand]

I think it was just GT and then they added the RS line to promote it more

[stoic ledge]

I think the cancelled the GT stuff all together

[civic spoke]

She should just get an old Ford Transit and throw the kids in the back.

[late sand]

More than half decent

[late sand]

Use tow starps as seatbelts

Disciplined children

[late sand]

Oh

[stoic ledge]

Yeah it's the "okay" trim, the lower Life trim definitely needs to be avoided

I'd say Intens is the all-round best trim, then RS Line for sporty and Initiale Paris for luxury

I quite like the RS-Line with the 1.3 TCe

[civic spoke]

Like, I know what my sister wants. But it isn't what she NEEDS.

[stoic ledge]

She needs... A Dacia Spring

[civic spoke]

She wants a VW Golf or a Volvo V40. Both being a bit on the small side.

[late sand]

What about the estate?

[stoic ledge]

V40 🅱️ased

[civic spoke]

The Volvo? Or the Golf Sportwagen-thing?

[late sand]

As if golf estate

[civic spoke]

That's probably the right size. But I'm not sure she thinks of it as a Golf.

Or you know. Just a Passat.

[stoic ledge]

Dacia Logan MCV

Or the New Jogger 😛

[civic spoke]

Also told her to look at Skoda Octavia.

[stoic ledge]

Astra K 1.4T is also quite nice

[charred depot]

Skoda Estelle, stick them in the frunk its great fun.

[late sand]

The newer Octavias aren't as big as they used to

[civic spoke]

This would be MINT. If it didn't have broken audio system. But I would still live with it.

[charred depot]

suprised they dont just fix it before selling for it being decent.

[late sand]

Depends on what's broken, and what caused it 🥲

[stoic ledge]

Standaard 2DIN, you replace it

[late sand]

Too expensive

[stoic ledge]

Or put in a more modern unit with AA/ACP

[stoic ledge]

2.0 diesel is 🅱️ased tho

[charred depot]

they are going for nearly 9k euros how much are autoelectricians over there

[civic spoke]

The Superb is a great vehicle. Highly underrated.

[late sand]

Totally agreed

More do it all than the A6

[stoic ledge]

Any Skoda > it's VW counterpart

[charred depot]

A friend has the one after that which I think is still current gen heh. He's bought alot of front tyres.

[civic spoke]

They use the same engines either way.

[late sand]

Since it's the same company rolling out cars with only visual differences to sell more and make more cash

[stoic ledge]

Well often better looking, bigger and cheaper

So 🚀

No reason to get any VW

[late sand]

Sometimes more reliable too

[stoic ledge]

Nah not really much difference there

[fathom socket]

They don't make projectors for this vehicle, thus i'm stuck with this

[stoic ledge]

All the same partsbin special

[late sand]

Depends on the driver then...

[charred depot]

if you take the skoda logo off the engine theres a vw one under

[stoic ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/smokey-the-bear-gif-22606353

[late sand]

Is she wants a volvo then she should get the 2.4 liter 5 cylinder 😋 since smoothness, reliability, power, and some economy all in one package

[stoic ledge]

2.0 VEA is also 👌

But 5 cyl is cool yea

But avoid the 1.6d / DrivE models

[charred depot]

buh cheap road tax

think the 1.6 ones get like £30 road tax here

[stoic ledge]

Yeah my brothers D2 is only €117/month

[charred depot]

£30/y

[stoic ledge]

[late sand]

Reliable?

[stoic ledge]

The D2?

[late sand]

Doesn't the D2 have multiple engine configs?

I could be wrong since my knowledge on volvos is thin

[fathom socket]

what is road tax

is this a europoor thing

[stoic ledge]

Yeah D2 up until somewhere in 2015 was the PSA 1.6d, somewhere in 2015 the D2 started was the 2.0 VEA do a Volvo engine

[civic spoke]

Based on the emissions of the car, often.

[late sand]

It's called not paying tolls and driving on smooth roads.

[stoic ledge]

2.0 D2/D3/D4/D5 is the same engine but with different turbo's

[fathom socket]

what tolls

wat

[stoic ledge]

Based on weight and fuel type here

[vocal mural]

What PSA cars end up like: (Crashes)

[stoic ledge]

D2 = 1 big turbo
D3 = VNT turbo
D4 = 1 small 1 big turbo
D5 = 1 VNT 1 big turbo

[fathom socket]

i remember top gear frequently bringing up how wildly expensive it had been to drive in London but jesus christ a weight and fuel based "road tax" holy shit

[stoic ledge]

I saw 2 broken down VW's today

[stoic ledge]

We just everything

[late sand]

Truck roasted must be through the roof

[charred depot]

Uk road tax isnt so bad, but if you live in london insurance is insanely expensive

[late sand]

Thief's and constant conflicts for items the price of a hotwheel

[stoic ledge]

When you buy the car, besides the 21% VAT, you also pay an emissions tax based on CO2 emissions (already a few k on a small hatchback, on a V8 Mustang it's over 50k or something )

And after that, just pay every month (my tiny hatchback is already 57/month)

[charred depot]

pre 2001 cars here either cost £170 or £280/y

[civic spoke]

Let me check what my road tax is.

[vocal mural]

VW before 2005 were better than VW from now yes

[civic spoke]

€260 for my tax. Give or take.

[stoic ledge]

Per year?

Cheap

😛

[civic spoke]

Old-ass E46 320i

[desert oxide]

i hate how my own amplifier says its incompetent

stays in protection mode after everything was ok

[stoic ledge]

Every car between age 0-25 years old pays full price

Between 25-40 years old it's 25% but you can't drive it in December-February

40-forever it's free

[charred depot]

cant drive it without paying extra or?

[vocal mural]

I hate Umwelt zones based on year, A 1999 VW Lupo 3L may not enter while a new V8 may enter that is more polluting

[stoic ledge]

You can drive it all year round but then you pay full price

[civic spoke]

PFT. I'm THIS close to having 111,222 kr in my bank account.

It's at 111,221.99 kr

[stoic ledge]

🤔

[charred depot]

I didnt buy a E39 because of insurance prices and parts etc

engine swaps saab negating basically all of that

Id probably save so much with a 530d

[stoic ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/jeremy-jeremy-clarkson-bmw-top-gear-hit-gif-17392956

E39 can be fixed with a hammer

[charred depot]

top gear fact

[civic spoke]

I would save HEAPS on just getting a diesel. Honestly should...

Considering that I would get free fuel if I did.

[charred depot]

costs just a smidge more than petrol so sorta a no brainer

my peugeot is a diesel but its oold so its still cheaper to run but newer stuff would be better

[stoic ledge]

Diesel is cheaper than petrol here

But the road tax is double

[civic spoke]

Diesel is a tad more expensive still for Sweden.

[fathom socket]

don't buy an early 2000's bmw

[desert oxide]

in finland diesel car taxes are high and fuel is like 1.6 something euros

[civic spoke]

Why? Because they are the best cars they made?

[charred depot]

Id love an E46 just insurance is too expensive for me to have one and other cars at the same time.

[fathom socket]

because the bumper will just fall off in traffic
because the fancy swiveling headlights cost $960 to replace
because plastic intake manifold
because plastic radiator
because rapidly degrading wiring harness
because 17mpg on 93 octane
because only 230hp (3.0 l6)
because sagging chassis requires special camber plates on the strut towers

I spent eleven thousand dollars keeping this just barely running and dumped it on some college kid

[stoic ledge]

cries in stolen E91

[desert oxide]

you know that you can make all of these things better

[stoic ledge]

So basically a modern Tesla experience for a fraction of the price

[charred depot]

first ive heard of an e46 bumper doing a runner, was it taken off before and broken clips not replaced?

[dense shard]

Nothing wrong with plastic intakes?

[charred depot]

maybe a slight bump broke clips

[dense shard]

Pretty much all cars had plastic since the 2000s

[desert oxide]

for harness theres aftermarket harness for that and if you dont like it replace it with an ls

[fathom socket]

It's ok bro just spend thousands on a car with 5 grand

[desert oxide]

i plan to waste 4k onto a e39 wagon

[charred depot]

theres lots of E46 breakers if you are a cheapskate

[desert oxide]

i like the e34 wagon and e39 wagon look the older model 2000 year

[civic spoke]

Most things on that list aren't exclusive to the E46 compared to other cars of that era. Other parts are just bizarre, like the bumper falling off.

The auto-leveling headlight being pricey comes with the territory.

[dense shard]

Swivel lights were a high end feature until recently

[fathom socket]

maybe if it had a v8 with some power, it would have been worth it
but
the non-M E46 is a gutless turd with the worst fucking transmission ever put into a vehicle

i put three sets of lower control arms into it in literally two years

[dense shard]

Actually

[civic spoke]

You sure don't want to know what the price to replace any modern headlight is.

[dense shard]

Isn't suspension a well known issue in the E46?

[fathom socket]

name something that ISN'T a well known issue on the E46

[dense shard]

I swear this isn't the first time I've heard this

[fathom socket]

go ahead

i'll wait, hun

[desert oxide]

suspension

[dense shard]

Engine tends to be solid

[stoic ledge]

Luckily you can replace the LEDs ez

Wait no that's not right

[dense shard]

Brakes are solid

[stoic ledge]

[civic spoke]

The rear likes to rust and go a bit bad if you're driving in salty places. That's what it did with mine.

[fathom socket]

Nope

Two calipers seized on me

[dense shard]

Transmission isn't great, but shouldn't break

Don't live in the salt belt

[civic spoke]

Lost half a turn on my rear springs.

[charred depot]

are you talking autos?

[desert oxide]

and suspension cant break if you dont do stupid shit and also they can break or wear out quicker because wrongly replaced

[fathom socket]

i'll give it that
trans didn't break
but that 5 speed auto transmission is a miserable piece of garbage

[dense shard]

Ew auto

[charred depot]

ah I wouldnt get an auto e46 anyway

[dense shard]

I'm talking manual

[desert oxide]

manual is best

[dense shard]

Which is meh to me

Honda did it better

[civic spoke]

Automatics from around the 2000's were bad.

[fathom socket]

first gear lurches forward unless you get on it
you can start in second however there's NO low down power on those straight 6's
it's fucking god awful
all your power is from 3200rpm to 4800rpm

[civic spoke]

At least it wasn't the SMG.

[desert oxide]

thats how the stock car was built

i would get bigger runners and maybe some headers

and upgrade the fuel system

[fathom socket]

europoors and their manuals, christ almighty

[civic spoke]

I honestly really like the M54 engine. It's just so smooth.

[desert oxide]

like i own a damn 2000 year chrysler grand voyager

atleast it aint that M52

[fathom socket]

[stoic ledge]

Nice

With a manual?