cars

[summer totem]

1 gt3

It never ran?

:P

[charred depot]

thats not a car thats a

[summer totem]

Slowest car I've had was a pink 1.1L Peugeot 106

Did 165 tho

[charred depot]

track day machine

[summer totem]

And racing stripes

[charred depot]

Its actually very rare, id feel bad.

[summer totem]

The peug went 3 wheeling in turns

[charred depot]

there is only 30 left in the UK and this is one of the good ones

30 includes saloon, estate and van models

I bet the guy in the back has seen his life flash before him many of times

[stoic ledge]

Hope you fixed the corroded brake lines, wheel bearing and ball point before taking it to the track

[charred depot]

nosy fucker lol

my car has had brake hose advisories since 2011

magically disappeared without them being replaced, but they look totally fucked

[stoic ledge]

Brake stuff as advisories? Lol

I think corroded brake lines are immediate failure here

[charred depot]

2017

off side rear tyre cracked on inner side wall
rear exhaust corroded
Nearside Rear Brake hose has slight corrosion to ferrules (3.6.B.4e)
Offside Rear Brake hose has slight corrosion to ferrules (3.6.B.4e)
Nearside Rear Shock absorber has a light misting of oil (2.7.3)
general corrosion to under side of vehicle

shlight

[stoic ledge]

I think the only advisory for brakes we can get is if the discs are close to being worn out, but still above the minimum value

[charred depot]

we have so many things that can be given as advisories

some of the scummy places put tonnes on to scare people

[stoic ledge]

I've had

• indicator colour not orange (the orange coat was peeling off from the bulbs, so just replaced them, garage even did that for free pog)
• failed emissions tax (injectors they replaced the year before (warranty), one was still faulty apparently, so replaced again for free)
• low tire thread (advisory, 1.6mm-2.5mm), which I actually checked and found that it was fault, lowest point I could find was 2.7mm 🙃 )
• leaky shock rear (just started leaking the week before inspection, I asked them to look at it but they first inspected it and then fixed it instead of the other way round 🥲 )

And then nothing the past 2 years

My brother apparently got a "wrongly adjusted low beam"... which is odd as they level automatically lol

Some people here think inspection is maintenance 🥲 So it's glad we atleast have something, otherwise some would never take their car in

Personally I don't mind inspections

If your car is safe, it'll pass. It's just the bare minimum tbh

[charred depot]

Im much more kalm now that I have a welder

[stoic ledge]

Even the biggest shitbox can pass if it just has some minimum stuff

20 year old tires? No problem, just needs more than 1.6mm of thread

Lol

[charred depot]

https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/
try NGX840W

thats my friends car

awh though they might have done that

[stoic ledge]

Kek that's a long list

[charred depot]

its almost fixed

[stoic ledge]

Almost 2 years later lol

[charred depot]

he works full time and has about 12 other cars to deal with so understandable

[stoic ledge]

94,724 miles : pass
95,823 miles : failed big time

[charred depot]

yeah that pass was definetely eh

how do we say it

[stoic ledge]

Just 1 year and 1100 miles difference

[charred depot]

dubious at best

[stoic ledge]

LOL

gg

[charred depot]

since another rotten chevette was sacrificed for this chevette its also got a new engine in the time is been off the road being fixed

[stoic ledge]

Nice

[stiff burrow]

In my state we don’t have vehicle inspections but I think it’s a good idea to implement them

Too many rusted out and unsafe cars

[eager grove]

That is bananas

So you can run an unsafe crap bucket as long as you want?

Wild

[stoic ledge]

Yeah I'm actually glad we have inspections

Otherwise we'd have way more POS on the road

I'm happy to pay a few tenners a year to make sure that's the case

It's like 40 bucks but often if you combine it with a service it's even "free"

[stiff burrow]

Yeah

Case in point

I don’t live in texas, this car is just from texas

In Michigan you only need to get a vehicle inspected if it has a salvage title. No emissions testing either

[stoic ledge]

That's just a special Lightweight edition

[eager grove]

fucking ridiculous

[timber oar]

I pray we never have the government decide to have inspections like that here

Emissions are bad enough to deal with

[waxen coral]

No it isnt

You can reflash the Alpina B3 tune on the transmission for faster shifting

The 330i, 530i, 130i and any other "30i"s have a different variant of the N52 engine, specifically the intake manifold is a 3 stage intake with 2 DISA valves

325 and 328 dont get that intake, and have a different tune respectively

325i with an N52B30 makes 215(ish) 328i makes 230(ish) and the 330i makes 270(ish)

Atleast in north american markets

Its also possible to retrofit a 3SIM to any N52 except the N52B25 (afaik) since the harness is all there, you have to just install it, install DISA, and code your cars computer to be able to use it

like, an afternoon job

Differenzierte Sauganlage

[stiff burrow]

video of me flooring it onto the expressway coming later today

[waxen coral]

Its actually because E90s run SUPER hot

like, unusually hit

hot

due to emissions

The run at nearly 105° to 110° at operating temperatures

And so BMW felt as though people would get really freaked out when they see that their car is boiling

That's the only way to make a naturally aspirated inline 6 and have it pass emissions

Can you tell i woke up and started scrolling through the chat

I wish my car didn't do this every time i put on the defogger

why blast it?

LET ME DECIDE

[stiff burrow]

thats an interesting design choice

my car has two defogger buttons, one just routes the fan to the defogger and keeps everything else the same, the other sets the fan to full blast and only routes air to the defogger

[waxen coral]

"define BMW in 5 words"

[stiff burrow]

[fathom socket]

What year is that car ?

[waxen coral]

like late 60s

[stiff burrow]

thats a sweet car

[fathom socket]

Wow

[waxen coral]

wait no

thats a BMW 2002

[fathom socket]

Never seen one like this good shape

[waxen coral]

its from 1970s and on

[fathom socket]

Oh gotcha

[waxen coral]

wait sorry sprry

[fathom socket]

No worries lol

[waxen coral]

2002 is 1968 to 1976, 2002 Turbo is from 1973

[fathom socket]

Model years can be very confusing

[stiff burrow]

@waxen coral do you like old BMWs?

[summer totem]

Sept 07 onwards here in EU has n54

[waxen coral]

Gurantee that its not an N54

[waxen coral]

ehhhh

[fathom socket]

Wanted to take a picture inside

[waxen coral]

You're thinking N53

[fathom socket]

Very cool looking seats and a manual transmission

[summer totem]

Possibly

[waxen coral]

Its an N52 with DGI and DISA

[summer totem]

325 still is 3.0 from sept 07 onwards in eu

[waxen coral]

Yeah the EU got the N53, we didn't, however i dont like the N53 because its direct injection vs port injected

[summer totem]

Hpfp issues

[waxen coral]

we had the N52B30 in the 325i from launch in Canada hehe

[summer totem]

And injector

[waxen coral]

carbon buildup

carbon buildup in intake runner

[summer totem]

Walnut blast + oil air seperator

[waxen coral]

Which you will HAVE to do because the previous owner probably didnt do it

Id rather skip that noise and have port injection, less points of failure

[waxen coral]

N54 is the twin turbo hehe

N55 is the single twin scroll turbo

[summer totem]

Lci has n54 i think it was?

[waxen coral]

No

The only models to ever get the N54 are the 335i, 535i, 135i and onward

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_N54

Go to "versions"

[summer totem]

Hm ok

[waxen coral]

the 330i and down never got forced induction

[summer totem]

That's true

[civic spoke]

M54 owner. Checking in.

[summer totem]

And i want just that

3.0, n/a

[waxen coral]

[civic spoke]

I only have the M54B22, tho.

[waxen coral]

[civic spoke]

Also. If you're wanting a newer N/A inline six from BMW. Aren't you looking for the N52 then?

[waxen coral]

There's nothing newer than that

Last naturally aspirated inline 6

[civic spoke]

That's what I mean 'newer'. Made up until 2015.

[waxen coral]

everything after that is I6T or I4T

[dense shard]

Shame

[civic spoke]

Or inline 3T.

[waxen coral]

Yeah yeah

N52 is a pretty good engine, the valvetronic is nice though hit or miss when it comes to maintaince, luckily most of the issues are very easy to repair like VCG, OFHG, OPG or Vanos and whatnot

[dense shard]

I'll stick with Toyota

[waxen coral]

No thanks, toyota is my least favorite manufacturer

[dense shard]

Shame

The new Corolla is excellent

[waxen coral]

Literally ive yet to have a worse car than a toyota

[stiff burrow]

toyota was good 30 years ago, it's been going downhill since then

[civic spoke]

I just went "lolwat". Since the old 7 series could be had as a 730i. So a 3.0 liter, N/A i6. And it's where you find the newest N52 engines.

[dense shard]

You haven't driven much

It's going as well as ever

[waxen coral]

I had 2 toyotas, both just died

[dense shard]

The AE86 isn't the greatest car ever made

[waxen coral]

wdym?

[civic spoke]

If you want as new of an N52 engine as possible. Then you need to get a 7 series.

[waxen coral]

Oh

Well yeah but ehhhhhh

7 series is too heavy for a 3 litre

[stiff burrow]

who needs N/A when you can have a supercharger 😏 😏

[civic spoke]

Still 250+ hp.

[waxen coral]

when the parasitic loss

[waxen coral]

yeah in like a 4000lb chassis

[stiff burrow]

still net gain

and no lag

[civic spoke]

If I get an E46 330i. Then I would love to throw a supercharger on that...

[waxen coral]

if you're getting the 7 series you're getting the V8, why even bother with the 3 litres

just anemic

[dense shard]

Cheaper

And not everyone needs 400 horsepower

[civic spoke]

Because who cares about speed when you have a boat?

[waxen coral]

i suppose, in that case is go with a 5 series instead

[dense shard]

Why tho

What if you want the big one

[waxen coral]

Much better suited to its own drivetrain

[stiff burrow]

if i was buying a 7 series i'd get the v12 tbh

[civic spoke]

In that case you might as well go with a 3 series instead. Much better suited to its own drivetrain.

[dense shard]

I don't trust German cars to last

So hard pass for me

[waxen coral]

lasted longer than my toyota lel

[dense shard]

Uhuh

[waxen coral]

toyotas

[stiff burrow]

kek

[waxen coral]

2

[dense shard]

Should have changed the oil

[waxen coral]

my sample size is 2 toyotas and they both sploded

[dense shard]

How

Sounds like you money shifted

[waxen coral]

surely i shouldve changed the oil, that would've prevented my transmission from bending the shift fork

[dense shard]

How the hell did you do that

[waxen coral]

If by money shift you mean shifting into 5th on the highway

[dense shard]

No

[waxen coral]

4th to 5th

at like 3k rpm

[civic spoke]

Looking at the used car site now. €21,000 for a 2014 730i

[dense shard]

Into first on the highway

[waxen coral]

I know what a money shift is dingus i didnt do it

[civic spoke]

One zero too much.

[waxen coral]

i was literally

just driving

[charred depot]

money shift >shifting into 5th wot

wrong reply

Also please come over to our unit if you need worse cars

what toyotas then

[stiff burrow]

worst car ive ever driven was a late 2000s dodge dart, that thing was a total piece of shit

[charred depot]

2010 mazda 2 terrible due to the low profile tyres

friends camry with 13" rims and baloon tyre is dreamy

[waxen coral]

I know that it wasnt a money shift

thats what im saying

I didnt money shift

[charred depot]

ah

[waxen coral]

kept up witb maintaince

and it sti bent a shift fork

then i was like

ok

just bad luck

[charred depot]

what toyota was it

[waxen coral]

Camry

[charred depot]

year?

[dense shard]

Toyota Cavalier lol

[waxen coral]

2003

[summer totem]

13"

lol

[charred depot]

many miles

[summer totem]

i have 15"s

dubz

[waxen coral]

Dont remember, around 230km?

230k km

[charred depot]

I prefer sidewall over rimmage

[waxen coral]

regardless, i got a Toyota Matrix after that, and it also died on me

[charred depot]

need 16's on the saab for the brakes im getting though

[summer totem]

depends on the tires

[waxen coral]

toyota junk, bad build quality, all they have going for them is simple design and ease of repair

[summer totem]

my 15"s with semis have stiffer sidewalls than my 17"s on michelin ps4

[charred depot]

I guess so but generally little sidewall is little sidewall

This image sums up my councils idea of an acceptable road

why repair the road when you can put a advisory sign up telling people to do 10mph

[waxen coral]

lol

expecting too much from politicians again

classic mistake

[charred depot]

Its funny when driving home and I cross into my council area there is a sign and the road immediately reduces in quality

[waxen coral]

lol

[dense shard]

I don't agree at all

I'm having an excellent time with my Toyota

[waxen coral]

Its person to person

im having a great time in my german cars

[dense shard]

Then don't make blanket statements as a fact

[waxen coral]

Ironic

[charred depot]

it gets worse every yard past that welcome to fife sign

[waxen coral]

my car lost alignment just by watching this video

[charred depot]

just the beginning

[stiff burrow]

I drive on roads like that every day

[charred depot]

lucky

it gets worse

[stiff burrow]

Thankfully the roads I drive on are wide enough that I can avoid the potholes

[waxen coral]

Are you guys European

[charred depot]

Scortish

[waxen coral]

ah i see

[stiff burrow]

No

[charred depot]

the speed limit on that road is 60mph if you dare

[stiff burrow]

Bruh

[charred depot]

I get up to that on the straights but have to slow down alot incase someone is coming the other direction near bends

[waxen coral]

The North American Way

[stiff burrow]

Yeah

[waxen coral]

I simply avoid the holes

[stiff burrow]

My state has some of the worst roads in the country

[waxen coral]

jeez

what state

[stiff burrow]

Michigan

[waxen coral]

Ah

Yeah because it gets cold there doesnt it

[stiff burrow]

Ironic considering we are the birthplace of the modern car

[waxen coral]

Heat expansion and contraction really kills the roads

[stiff burrow]

Yeah

[charred depot]

The poor road quality is alright in the saab but in the mazda with low profile tyres 💀

[waxen coral]

it doesn't get nearly that cold here

[charred depot]

bruh its always like 10C here all year how are our roads crumbling

[stiff burrow]

The real problem is because of the lakes it constantly switches from above freezing to below freezing

[waxen coral]

Ah

[stiff burrow]

So Ice melts and freezes multiple times a day

[waxen coral]

Yeah that really kills the roads

Thats like

[stiff burrow]

Yeah

[waxen coral]

the worst case scenario

[stiff burrow]

Yeah

And because new roads get ruined in just a few years they don’t bother to fix it anymore

[waxen coral]

It doesnt get below freezing here often luckily

[charred depot]

ours can be perfect the only issue is you are going to be going 60mph and suddenly the mother of all potholes is infront of you

[stiff burrow]

So we have stuff like this https://youtu.be/qgqIlJagMIw

[waxen coral]

jeeZ

[stoic ledge]

Our roads are generally fine, but they better as I already pay 65usd a month road tax for my tiny hatchback

[waxen coral]

Interesting

road tax

We get some of the most expensive insurance in the country but i dont think we have a road tax

[stiff burrow]

In the US we have it built into the gas tax

[charred depot]

my road tax is expensive here in the UK at £280/y

[stoic ledge]

Yet it's still half it costs here

[stiff burrow]

Lol

[waxen coral]

Yeah i think thats what we have

Euro insurance is insane though

based on displacement?

wild

[charred depot]

alot more than that

[stoic ledge]

Based on many factors

[charred depot]

based on a billion factors you will never know or properly understand

[waxen coral]

My insurance is based on age, gender, and experience

[charred depot]

it is cheaper for me to insure a Honda S2000 than it is a Civic

[stiff burrow]

Displacement taxes

[stoic ledge]

Hell even your neighbour might get a lower rate as #6 statistically crashes less than people on #8 or something like that

It's crazy

[waxen coral]

Its pretty cheap because im a girl but my friends insurance is super super expensive because they're under 25, males, with like 2 or 3 years of experience

[charred depot]

different rates on a street to street basis

[waxen coral]

My insurance is like, 1450/yr on my e90

for comp

[charred depot]

Im fully comp but my excess exceeds the value of the car

I should have let that mazda 6 hit me, easy way out of the saab nightmare.

[stoic ledge]

Mine is ~1100USD/year but that's for something a lot smaller than an E90

1.2

[waxen coral]

jeeez

Wait

you're EU or NA?

[stiff burrow]

Lol

[charred depot]

£1100/y for my modified saab
£350/y unmodified

[stoic ledge]

I know my brothers E91 was like 1900 USD/year

[stoic ledge]

EU

[waxen coral]

ohhh

[stoic ledge]

But I already convert the numbers as most are US

[waxen coral]

Im not US lol

[stoic ledge]

AH

[waxen coral]

Im Canadian haha

[stoic ledge]

Same

But friendlier

Wait

👀

[charred depot]

I wish insurance companies could be more understanding of engine swaps :^(

[stoic ledge]

Sorry BenTheHat

xD

[stiff burrow]

[waxen coral]

Im actually like 20 minutes away from the linus media group studio

[stiff burrow]

Canadians and Americans are basically the same thing lmao

As much as Canadians don’t like to hear that

[waxen coral]

ehhhhhh

[dense shard]

They are

[waxen coral]

Thats what americans say when they dont care to understand the differences

[dense shard]

If truck buying habits are anything to go on

[stiff burrow]

There are obviously cultural differences but we are very similar

[waxen coral]

which is, typically american

[stoic ledge]

Canadians are superior as they use metric

[dense shard]

Oh the two countries are more similar than you care to admit

[waxen coral]

Im gonna be real, nobody uses metric here LOL

Only officially, and for like, speed and whatnot

[stoic ledge]

Don't canadian cars use km/h?

[waxen coral]

height, weight, etc

all in imperial

well

more like both

I switch between them

[stoic ledge]

ohno

[stiff burrow]

The same thing is going on in the UK too

[waxen coral]

feet and inches for short distances, kilometres for long distances

temperature only in Celsius though

nobody uses F

[stoic ledge]

F

[waxen coral]

Do you live in the states?

[dense shard]

Yep

[waxen coral]

Have you lived in Canada?

[dense shard]

Can't say I have

[waxen coral]

Then what was that about making generalizing statements as facts?

[dense shard]

Because it is a fact

[stiff burrow]

There’s a Tim Hortons close to my house, that has to count for some Canadian clout

[dense shard]

Culturally the countries are quite similar

[waxen coral]

Oh so now we can make those statements because it can fit your narrative

[dense shard]

Historically more so

What are you on about?

[waxen coral]

Dude, dude, the country is huge, there's a difference province to province

2nd biggest country in the world, you can just out a blanket statement on the whole thing

its like me saying people from Florida and from Oregon are the same

[charred depot]

both Americans to me

[waxen coral]

Like generally if you squint hard enough the values tend to align, but, mostly, there's a huge difference

Its like saying the Quebecois and the French from france are the same

or Mexicans and Chileans are the same

yeah they speak the same language

[stiff burrow]

That’s true of literally anywhere

[waxen coral]

and come from generally the same background

but they're hugely different

Not in a bad or good way, there are good aspects of Americans and there are bad aspects of Canadians, but im tired of people saying the same crap like "Oh they're basically the same" like some psuedo intellectual

can you tell it hits a nerve lil

lol

[waxen coral]

I find that people actually prefer mcdonalds most of the time lol

Timmies is kinda trashy

[stiff burrow]

They’ve gone downhill recently

[waxen coral]

Timmies is like

Last resorr

resort

For me at least

their coffee sucks

and their hot chocolate

but the donuts are good

[stiff burrow]

The coffee does suck

Yeah

[waxen coral]

McCafe is better

[stiff burrow]

Better than dunkin

[waxen coral]

We dont get dunkin in Vancouver

[stiff burrow]

Oh

[waxen coral]

ye

we JUST got popeyes

[stiff burrow]

Krispy Kreme has really good donuts too

[waxen coral]

We have Krispy Kreme actually hehe

yeah they're good

i like it

But the closest one is still really far from my house so i just get tims most of the time

[stiff burrow]

There’s one 20 mins away from my house

Right across from micro center 😏

[waxen coral]

Gee

atleast we get Memory Express

I used to have an NCIX next to my house when i lived with my parents

I think linus worked at that one actually but idk

maybe he was back end

[stiff burrow]

Not directly across but pretty close

[waxen coral]

Doxxed

[stiff burrow]

Ok

If you say so

[waxen coral]

lol

[charred depot]

predictable outcome

im sure they gave the citroen plenty of room in their mind

[stoic ledge]

If the Citroen was a bicycle, then yes

[fathom socket]

https://c.tenor.com/wIxFiobxxbIAAAAM/john-jonah-jameson-lol.gif

[stoic ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/car-crash-roll-junkie-car-tow-truck-viralhog-gif-15078346

[charred depot]

cant pay we'll unload your car in a ditch?

[stoic ledge]

Sounds fair to me

[timber oar]

talk about a drop off

[stoic ledge]

Put it in the rear

[charred depot]

if someone does that to me while I have the engine in the boot, might just have to give them a bump

[stiff burrow]

Sound clip

Ooh I hate when people do that

[charred depot]

less than a second gap at the best point while I have 60kg of loose metal beams in the back

[stiff burrow]

Is that what that sound was at the end?

[charred depot]

my chains can be heard I think

[stiff burrow]

Oh ok

[charred depot]

could have had an engine in the boot alongside all that and they are lucky I didnt because im not having it break loose and them piss off

[stiff burrow]

Looks like my dash cam has shipped

[restive cliff]

i mean, he cut in kind of late but he had a blinker on and there was a lot of time and space for you to apply brakes and slow down without jamming the brakes. And its not like he stopped for no reason, It was a T junction and a stop sign. You would have had to stop there anyway

[charred depot]

its a roundabout and nothing was coming

no stop sign

[restive cliff]

ah, so he shouldn't have stopped at all. that makes more sense

[charred depot]

well if he wants to play it safe and stop for a look he can not cut in at the last second

but id have rolled on

the road is wet and it is freezing and he goes infront of me with less than a second where realistically there should be 4 seconds

[restive cliff]

i wouldnt exactly call that last second. He certainly could have just stayed in his lane, but he was in the lane for a good 5 seconds before you hit the brakes

[charred depot]

if hes having to cut in less than a second infront of me then its last second

if you pick a point and count how many seconds it takes me to pass it, it should be 4.

[restive cliff]

i dont understand what happend in "less than a second" in that video. he was in the lane for several seconds and entered it while signalling

[charred depot]

the time it takes for me to reach a point he previously was at

[restive cliff]

ah the distance in front of you, got it

yeah he was definitely close.

[charred depot]

the dashcam makes things look further away if you didnt know

[restive cliff]

and I'd be a little pissed about it if someone cut in front of me like that. but there was still a safe distance until you both stopped

[charred depot]

there wasnt a safe distance at the best point

[restive cliff]

why did you wait like 5 seconds to apply brakes if it wasnt safe the moment he entered your lane?

[charred depot]

I honestly though someone at that level of dickhead wouldnt come to a complete stop for the roundabout

and I also was pissed

[restive cliff]

yeah i get it

[charred depot]

From my perspective I cant even see tarmac and its much closer "in person"

you cant really judge distance from a wide angle video other than counting time between points

[restive cliff]

yeah it's all good. I just didnt understand why you waited so long to get on the brakes is all

[stoic ledge]

Yeah it's weird to cut in front because he's driving faster and then skow down like crazy

[stoic ledge]

How to be the first at the next red light

But sounds good gg

[charred depot]

The speed limit is 40 so hes speeding past everyone till hes right at the front where he has to be

I dont mind people cutting close infront of they are going to continue on but if you are slowing down no thankyou

[stiff burrow]

Fr

[waxen coral]

Black ford explorers should come with a police impersonation charge

Damn near locked up my brakes on the highway

[summer totem]

😂

[prisma cypress]

That and the white with the black trim it spooks me every freaking time

[waxen coral]

The cop cars here are white and blue, or black

but people who drive black ford explorers, dodge chargers, or ford taurus'

[timber oar]

i hate being around explorers they always look like cops

[civic spoke]

The unmarked police vehicles here are hard enough to spot.

If you do spot it. Then it's already over for you.

I know the K9 units are using unmarked VW Amarok's.

[warm temple]

Yo didn’t realize there was a cars tab here, time to start some shit lol

Ford sux, fight me.

[viscid atlas]

chevy also sux

:>

[vocal mural]

Every American and French brand sux

[fathom socket]

Is there a way to turn off ESP in puegeout 307

[viscid atlas]

@fathom socket ye you sell the 307 and get a car that you can turn it off in

on the sport version you can turn it off

not on the standard version

[fathom socket]

Oh...

[viscid atlas]

you could prolly like permanently disable it somehow

[fathom socket]

Cuz I'm stuck on ice and it won't move

[viscid atlas]

but i wouldnt recommend it

wait youre literally stuck?

oh shit XD

[fathom socket]

Yep

ESP esc or whatever won't let me move

[viscid atlas]

why dont you have chains with you ._.

[fathom socket]

Because I'm too broke for them

I spent money on new winter tyres

[viscid atlas]

bruuuuuuuuuuuh

my guy safety equipment and rescue equipment is necessary if you live in an area with ice

[fathom socket]

It's that just nobody bothers to deuce my road

[viscid atlas]

can you take a picture of how youre stuck

i wanna see what you could do

[fathom socket]

Eh. I already did take my other car

[viscid atlas]

LOL

welp

wait till the ice melts ig

[fathom socket]

I can't go up the icy hill

And I did the 180

Looks like I'm not the only one who got stuck there

[viscid atlas]

ripppp

[stiff palm]

Are you stuck on ice or is your car stuck on a snow pile? LE: nvm, just seen you're ok

[fathom socket]

Ice

I've parked up the hill and there is car behind me

[stiff palm]

I bet the guy behind you thought exactly this -> "Where can I park my car in icy conditions? ....on a hill just behind another car. I is SMART"

[civic spoke]

Our street is nothing buy ice at the moment.

And I felt it with my lack of ABS currently.

[flint sable]

Grandfather got a crossfire with a salvaged title

[fathom socket]

I need to buy a shovel so I can deice the hill

[summer totem]

Pull abs fuse to disable tcs

[waxen coral]

These are kinda cool because they're effectively a mercedes

[flint sable]

Yeah

[waxen coral]

ye

[viscid atlas]

@flint sable youre grandfather is a G

most people who dont own a crossfire but have driven it dislike it, most owners are the people who have driven it and loved it. Extremely polarizing car, but its great

id love to get a salvage title Evora or smthng if i can find one at a worth price

[flint sable]

he's had an XLR and now has a hemi challenger

[dense shard]

Crossfire was peak Daimler partsbin

Chrysler is still recovering from that debacle. Merger of equals was one of the greatest jokes of the 00s

Fiat did no favors considering the Journey existed

What is actually amazing is it took FCA a full decade to develop a new Grand Cherokee platform

[flint sable]

i do not like the Grand Cherokee

[charred depot]

may have got caught speeding, enqueue the 14 day paranoia

[dense shard]

GCs are amusing

[flint sable]

they're really small on the outside

inside*

i mena

mean

our mini feels bigger on the inside

also the cayenne S is a deceptively large car

[dense shard]

Old ones are big enough

[stiff burrow]

Lmao

[timber oar]

That almost looks like a pt cruiser

[pearl tiger]

that is a pt

[carmine summit]

this but PT Cruiser

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKiXdqaY180

[stiff burrow]

‘Murica

[viscid atlas]

@flint sable cayenne looks horrid, and this is from a porsche driver and enthusiast

[flint sable]

Ours is second gen, before the LED taillights and headlights

This one

[viscid atlas]

yea ik what youre talking about, a non car friend of mine saw that one on the road debadged, he thought it was a Dacia

[flint sable]

LOL

From the front it’s pretty meh

The back end is pretty cool

With the sport exhaust

[viscid atlas]

Macan looks decent

im not an SUV person

so, i wouldnt enjoy either anyways

[flint sable]

we needed an SUV for general purpose

We refer to them as “holes in the driveway”

[flint sable]

The cayenne replaced a Dodge Journey

Love the wheels on yours

[viscid atlas]

997.1 stock

[flint sable]

Most of our 911s are of the 996 gen

[viscid atlas]

it has a couple of minor problems, but its fine otherwise

996 is perfectly reasonable, aslong as you did the IMS fix on the engines if theyre carreras

if not, youre driving a bomb

@flint sable look into that btw, id hate for someone elses 911 to catch flames on the road

[flint sable]

Yeah we did the IMS fix on both of them don’t worry

[viscid atlas]

great!

theyre gaining value too, which is also nice

[viscid atlas]

996 is most likely the most underrated generation of 911

i love that color scheme

[flint sable]

Honestly

Yeah the guy who ordered it ordered it to match his original carerra RS

[viscid atlas]

is that a 924 or what XD

[flint sable]

944 turbo

[viscid atlas]

right, 944

[flint sable]

I love the rear plexiglass bubble window

[viscid atlas]

my mind goes to the 924 when i see a porsche in that shape cus of the top gear challenge one XD

[flint sable]

Yeah

[viscid atlas]

so bad

@flint sable if i ever get a 2nd car in the future, im dropping my engine, rebuilding it in 3.8 and supercharging it

[flint sable]

Sounds fun

[viscid atlas]

Itd produce about 480HP, for an AWD car thats as light as this, ton of fun

[stoic ledge]

Amazing how it still fits in a parking spot width wise

[stiff burrow]

Like I said, ‘Murica

[stoic ledge]

[stiff burrow]

They’re taking up two spots lengthwise though

[stoic ledge]

Tundra taking up 4 spaces here

[vocal mural]

Hornbach

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[stiff burrow]

Bruh

He could fit in one space if he didn’t park like an idiot 😂

[stoic ledge]

Uuhm x doubt, the 500 on the left is almost already taking up an entire shot lengthwise

Width... Would probably fit but unable to get in or out with a car parked besides it

[stiff burrow]

Oh true

[stoic ledge]

But big carpark in the morning so not really busy, so I didn't really mind

But yeah he could've at least tried

[fathom socket]

https://streamable.com/f9ul9l

Who's hungry for donuts ?

[dense shard]

Got the Jeep washed. Looks nice and beige now.

Instead of brown and beige.

[fathom socket]

Idk why I thought your jeep was washed by a river

[stiff burrow]

Looks like fun

[fathom socket]

I always wanted a decent RC car.

but I mostly want the combustion engine ones

[flint sable]

i have one

a 4wd buggy

it's a lot of fun

troubleshooting it sucks but

its worth it

you can get big ones that are 1/5th scale and powered by a two stroke gas motor

or ones that are smaller at 1/8th scale that are powered by nitromethonal

[warm temple]

Elon got nothin on me

[fathom socket]

this power stroke 2005 f350 is at 570 thousand miles

Ford used to make good lasting diesel trucks rip

[stoic ledge]

Holy sh*t that last F1 race

Amazing

[stoic ledge]

Modern ones are fine with emissions stuff deleted xD

[fathom socket]

Oof

I think it's hilarious that the turbo in it is Bigger than my head

Like daym

[frozen forge]

LESSSSS GOOOOOO

[stoic ledge]

[jovial mauve]

:*

:(

[stoic ledge]

🥳

[sterile idol]

incredible...

🇦🇹 🥳

[sterile idol]

1 Stop was said to be fastest but 3 stop won the race lol

If Mercedes had called in Hamilton under the safety car he would've become champion

[jagged coyote]

after the ferrari strategy in 2020
the merce🅱️es strategy in 2021

[sterile idol]

P21 lol

[jagged coyote]

meh, it's a tied 19

but still, it's funny to see he's behind kubica, that literally only did 1 race

oh wait nvm, it went over my head

[sterile idol]

https://youtu.be/pnhF2dhjUoE

https://youtu.be/MTe12fH2xtQ&t=1m06s

the video is timestamped perfectly

https://youtu.be/WaOL3q_wrnM

https://youtu.be/GSOYIo996CA

toto compilation lol

[jagged coyote]

plz micheal no, i want my driver to be 8 time wdc

[frozen forge]

Toto seething and coping rn

[jagged coyote]

hopefully the "overtaking" max did, if any, will only result in a fine has it had no impact on the final ranking

[sterile idol]

that is a little joke... he was ahead for a second or two

[jagged coyote]

i mean during the sc restart

when they were wheel to wheel

[sterile idol]

i meant exactly that as well...

that changed nothing lol

[jagged coyote]

it trully didn't

you know what changed something?
cutting a corner and not giving the position back

[sterile idol]

True

But what should one say

[jagged coyote]

he gave the gap back?

[sterile idol]

He didn't gain from it at the end

[jagged coyote]

[sterile idol]

No he did not

[jagged coyote]

yeah that's what i was thinking too

i was like "that's bs"

if he didn't get a penalty for that, verstappen shouldn't get a penalty for the restart
otherwise, the fia is a freaking joke

oh wait it is

[sterile idol]

yeah...

[jagged coyote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Dbnyyne_uU
toto tantrum

[sterile idol]

it seemed hopeless with the "lapped cars will not be allowed to overtake"

[jagged coyote]

me too

[frozen forge]

Is everyone in F1 this whiny

[jagged coyote]

like, why, mercedes bias?

[jagged coyote]

when the fia seems corrupt...

[frozen forge]

seems

[jagged coyote]

one thing we could all agree on tho, would it be max fans or lewis fans
it was sad to see kimi's career end like that

[stoic ledge]

FIA made a lot of very questionable decisions this GP, so I'm not surprised about what happened today

[jagged coyote]

not only this gp, but most of them

[frozen forge]

Par for the course, IMHO

[jagged coyote]

surely toto is gonna send plenty of emails to micheal

[frozen forge]

Mercedes already lodged two protests

And don't you mean "Mikey"

[jagged coyote]

one that would impact max

[jagged coyote]

yep

[stoic ledge]

Mercedes went to the stewards with a lawyer

[jagged coyote]

lame move

[frozen forge]

Mercedes moment

[jagged coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/toto-wolff-headphone-smash-gif-24029400

that's the kind of man they are dealing with

also, did i see a boom mic in mercedes's garage at the end? do they have the netflix crew with them

that ought to make spicy drive to survive content

[frozen forge]

LMAO

[jagged coyote]

i would be surprised to see a film crew for another channel in their garage, maybe it's their own, but probably dts

[frozen forge]

They didn't survive

[jagged coyote]

did toto have to by a third pair of bose?

[frozen forge]

Bought a fourth, I'd wager

[jagged coyote]

can't wait to see all the memes

[stoic ledge]

FIA still not finished

[jagged coyote]

just because mercedes protested doesn't mean they will open an investigation

[stoic ledge]

It won't change the outcome

[stoic ledge]

Dismissed as expected

[timber oar]

i think it would be great if the modern DMC would finally be able to make their limited production run

[wheat hatch]

From: The Teams & The Fans
To: The Stewards

Protest filed by the teams and the fans to get Michael Masi off the FIA director position

The Teams & The Publics Decision:
The protest is approved

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[wheat hatch]

Tbh, its feels like the ones that broke the rules the most this season was FIA themselves, which is probably why they made so many rules on the fly LOL

[frozen forge]

One day.....

Oh, who am I kidding, they won't let them do anything

[timber oar]

yeah they are just waiting on the circus of a government to get that whole program setup

they have been for years iirc

[stoic ledge]

You get a new rule. You get a new rule. Everybody gets a new rule!

[timber oar]

may as well just have a carnival barker

get yer rules here!

[wheat hatch]

Teams & Fans: "You can't just make stuff up on the fly!"
FIA: "Haha, rule printer goes brrrrr, new track limit set. Penalty 10 seconds."

[stoic ledge]

Hehe rule printer goes brrrrr

[frozen forge]

How about the FIA track limit deez nuts

[stoic ledge]

Apparently the other protest has also been denied, but you can't download the file

[wheat hatch]

FIA: "Don't mind if I do!"

[frozen forge]

Oh, they would, wouldn't they

[wheat hatch]

They absolutely would.

[stoic ledge]

All protest dismissed

[jagged coyote]

https://twitter.com/ChrisMedlandF1/status/1470107161372291072?s=20
Jesus the Mercedes circle jerk comments

Chris Medland (@ChrisMedlandF1)

OFFICIAL: Protest not upheld. Race result stands and Max Verstappen is drivers' champion #F1 #AbuDhabiGP

Likes

479

Twitter · Dec 12, 2021, 7:03 PM

[stoic ledge]

As expected

[wheat hatch]

Not unexpected

[dawn python]

this truly is a blessed day

[wheat hatch]

Well tbh, both sides are pretty bad

[jagged coyote]

True

But let's be honest, there's Def a bias at times

[wheat hatch]

But that goes for any fanboyism though

[jagged coyote]

And that goes for one side or the other

[wheat hatch]

Well, every side is gonna point at the other to say they are the worst lmao

[jagged coyote]

remember when lewis says "hey he can't do that" about someone doing what he did years ago

also the "sending perez into the pit lane move" in turkey

lewis fan that max is a douchewagon are blind or what?

[wheat hatch]

No idea what this is lol, I don't watch F1 usually, only this final is all I have watched

[jagged coyote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBsnDIFbbb4
i'll let you be the judge

[wheat hatch]

I find F1 in general quite boring, but the final was interesting

[jagged coyote]

i'd say this year the most boring was the belgian grand prix

[wheat hatch]

Eh, I would want to see the telemetry before saying anything on my part

[haughty ridge]

I'm sure that Mercedes will go to higher court. The safety car protest being dismissed is bullshit

Lando, Russel and Fernando all showed that they didn't agree with the ridiculous safety car stuff

[jagged coyote]

I mean, lapped cars are supposed to unlap during safety cars

[wheat hatch]

But doesn't that mean all the lapped cars then? From what I read a comment that said if it was done as the rules said then the race would've ended under a safety car

[jagged coyote]

Tbf the unlapping should've been done when they said "lapped cars cannot overtake safety car"

[jagged coyote]

Maybe that's why they did it that way? Unlap the cars between the leaders to let them race for 1 last lap

[wheat hatch]

Man I can't wait until next year to not watch F1, but still hear about all the stuff Michael Masi will come up with lmao

[jagged coyote]

Tbf they shouldn't argue with the way the Stewards said...

[wheat hatch]

I guess, they just do things on the fly these days

[stoic ledge]

all drivers who haven't crashed in to the wall are disqualified

[jagged coyote]

Mikey will come up with alot during the break

[wheat hatch]

I bet next year Masi will be do something ridiculous like, I dunno, physically expand the track limit mid race

[jagged coyote]

So Perez wins

[wheat hatch]

"Alright lads, track is too narrow, we are going to build it out right now"

[wheat hatch]

[jagged coyote]

I wonder what would've happened if both max and Lewis dnf-ed like in monza?

Who's the wdc then?

[wheat hatch]

Max would've won if I'm not wrong

He had one more race win over Lewis

[haughty ridge]

Yeah, ALL lapped cars

[stoic ledge]

"Races will now contain a flying start"
Plane sounds incoming

[wheat hatch]

LOL

[stoic ledge]

This

[wheat hatch]

[wheat hatch]

The drivers will have to run a lap around the track, then strap into their cars, and then go

[jagged coyote]

So on lap one when he overtook Lewis he should've torpedoed to garantee a win then? /s

[wheat hatch]

I mean, that's what I was expecting

Easy win

Senna style

[jagged coyote]

Same, Perez does a pit maneuver on Lewis, ez clap

[wheat hatch]

And yeah, this

[haughty ridge]

Masi has to go

[wheat hatch]

I mean, either you follow the rules or you don't

[jagged coyote]

Yes

[stoic ledge]

Chubby guy at the back still running, being overtaken by F1 cars at 300km/h

[wheat hatch]

And in this instance, I think Masi is just like, "Yeah whatever, let's just do it lmao"

[stoic ledge]

https://c.tenor.com/I6GFaw6IR3YAAAAM/chuckles-im-in-danger.gif

[wheat hatch]

🏎️ ☁️

[haughty ridge]

The rules were clearly violated during the safety car. Mercedes should go to higher court with this

[stoic ledge]

No, because FIA said they'd penalize Verstappen if thet did it on purpose or something like that

Like, deducting points overall

[wheat hatch]

Masi looked at the race on lap 57 and was like, "I'm about to do a so called, pro gamer move"
And then Toto had his epic gamer moment

[stoic ledge]

Ofc, only if they can prove it, which is difficult

[haughty ridge]

This is just a disgrace for F1, if Max keeps his title it will always be controversial. If Hamilton gets it they will look like a clown

[wheat hatch]

Clearly the title should in that case be given to.... Pastor Maldonado

[jagged coyote]

they'll look like a clown if lewis gets the wdc bcs they didn't investigate the corner cutting but the aledged "overtaking" on sc restart

[stoic ledge]

Just give WDC to Mazepin

Or Schumacher

Or both

[jagged coyote]

[stoic ledge]

Ez solution

[haughty ridge]

or KUBICA

[jagged coyote]

yes

[stoic ledge]

YES!

[jagged coyote]

or to vettel

[stiff burrow]

Lmao

[jagged coyote]

what in tarnation

[stiff burrow]

Ikr

How does this person drive

Did they skin the Lorax to use as their steering wheel

[wet pewter]

Anyone know what brand of car this is?

[haughty ridge]

That's Citroen

[jagged coyote]

citroen

[stoic ledge]

Polestar

[jagged coyote]

it's a ds

[stoic ledge]

No!

No Citroen/DS

Chevrons of Citroën are on top of each other

[jagged coyote]

oh wait no, you're right @stoic ledge

[stoic ledge]

And DS has a DS in it's logo

[stiff burrow]

I think it is a polestar

[jagged coyote]

ds is one full chevron and on not full

[stoic ledge]

DS just has DS written fancy

[wet pewter]

? Citroen has two upside down Vs, that car has an X on its hubcap

[stoic ledge]

That car has the Polestar logo

[wet pewter]

Ohh

[stiff burrow]

The wheel is turned so it looks like an X

But it’s actually a +

[stoic ledge]

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/polestar-logo-temporarily-banned-france-over-citroen-similarity

[jagged coyote]

[wet pewter]

Gotcha

[stiff burrow]

Lol

Typical France

[wet pewter]

Thanks for the help

[stoic ledge]

It's this car with these wheels

Polestar 2

Basically an Electric Volvo

[stiff burrow]

I like that car

[stoic ledge]

Same

Too bad their efficiency isn't amazing

[wet pewter]

Weird that they are in Arizona

Or at least that’s where I saw the truck

[stoic ledge]

They're also being sold in the US

So makes sense

[stiff burrow]

Volvo is fairly popular here

At least in my area

But I’ve never seen a polestar

[stoic ledge]

I see both quite often

Volvo's mostly XC40's or V60's

[stiff burrow]

Yeah

[charred depot]

While driving back with that engine in my boot I had no rear brakes, I thought the brakes were feeling shit.

Only noticed this morning, rear discs totally rusted as if the car hasnt moved for a week.

[stoic ledge]

F

[jagged coyote]

with the cold my handbrake gets kinda stuck

[stoic ledge]

Luckily rear brakes aren't being used that much

[charred depot]

yeah it still feels horrible

[stoic ledge]

That's why you park in gear, not on handbrake

[jagged coyote]

the street i live on is on a slope

[stoic ledge]

F

[charred depot]

my dad had no handbrake in is hyundai for years wed just turn it into the kerb and leave it in gear

[jagged coyote]

apparently it happened to my dad, his rear wheel wouldn't turn so he didn't drive

how did that pass inspection?

i assume they check it

[charred depot]

the mechanism was seized but if you adjusted it out way too far the handbrake would "work" for a week or two

just the slight movement of the mechanism was enough to get it through

I properly fixed it this year for the MOT as the shoes were totally gone

[stiff burrow]

Turning the wheels away from the curb is always good to do when parking on a hill

[charred depot]

the thing with the arm was rusted solid, not too happy about having to pay £28 for them

[stiff burrow]

It could’ve been a lot more than £28 😂

[charred depot]

anymore and id have been to the scrapyard

It just got topped up with a meer 2 litres of oil which is becoming a bit too common so would appear I have another thing to engine swap.

[stiff burrow]

Was the engine in your trunk for your Saab

[charred depot]

yeah

hyundai would be easier as it would be the exact same engine

some smelectric challenges to overcome for the saab

I may just send the ECU away to someone that knows what they are doing to set it up a standalone sorta system as it would be for swapping it into non saabs

I need the immobiliser deleted regardless

[dense shard]

That's like Honda suing Hyundai or Acura vs Lexus on badges.

It shares a design element. A chevron shape. Otherwise... they smoking something.

[stoic ledge]

Only in France

Idk what the outcome was

[stiff burrow]

🥵

[austere rivet]

24

[stiff burrow]

24

[viscid atlas]

23 was better

[charred depot]

why install lowing springs when you can install cargo

[viscid atlas]

@charred depot why install springs when you could just drive without

[charred depot]

id like to see you drive this car with the springs removed

[viscid atlas]

No thank you :)

I aint a stance type of person

[charred depot]

I dont think youd get very far

If I had 215's instead of 205's id be rubbing

[viscid atlas]

Bruh

[charred depot]

I probably should have had the engine further forward but twas fine

[fathom socket]

Nice a lime green c8 Corvette is tailgating me

[stiff burrow]

how is that tailgating

[fathom socket]

I sped up lol

To get the whole picture

[stiff burrow]

oh

[stoic ledge]

I almost thought the inside of your bed looks like a Jeep grill lol

[stiff burrow]

lmao it does

[fathom socket]

Plus I had gravel in the back so I didn't want to rock chip his car and I'll have to pay for it

Yeah

Idk why S10s have that

[stiff burrow]

bruh...

why does this exist

[charred depot]

commercial vehicles get taxed differently

also still pretty useful especially where parking isnt great

[stiff burrow]

Makes sense, but seems like an odd choice for a van. Even though it’s marketed as a small van, it’s really small.

But I can see use cases for it

[stoic ledge]

Used to have them here as well but new rules in 🇳🇱 state atleast a X*Y*Z dimension thing must fit, which they don't

A friend of mine in 🇧🇪 actually has a VW Polo configured like that, he doesn't use it at such but it's for tax reasons

The UK also had vans like these, which I find quite cool as they are 3 door wagons

[stiff burrow]

Interesting

[stoic ledge]

Ours were 5 doors wagons, and raised roof required

Sadly it's a dying breed

Not even sure if you can even get them in this configuration

But see it like the Chevrolet HHR Panel Van

[stiff burrow]

Yeah

I thought those were weird and kind of unnecessary too 😂

On another note, my dash cam is coming tomorrow

[stoic ledge]

Idk, vans which drive just like ordinary cars (so better than a van), seems like a nice trade-off if you need space but not a crazy amount that you need a full sized van

[stiff burrow]

Thats true

Although with the HHR you could fold down the back seats and have a panel with rear windows. Plus, the panel was more expensive iirc.

But I could be remembering that last detail wrong

[stoic ledge]

Uhm yeah these also started life just as regular cars... And they were converted to van later. But after the conversion, the met the regulations for a van, which a wagon with folded down rear seats does not. This meant they could get a commercial car/van license plate (in 🇳🇱 it's called a "grey plate" even though it's bright yellow xD), those start with a B or V at the letter combination.

These grey plated have a lower road tax rate, no VAT, no emissions tax.... So for companies way cheaper than a regular passenger car

Although some actually came already converted from the Factory, really depends on the car, model, country legislation etc

Like the 3 door Astra Van (the red one) I posted above, it came like that from the Factory. The gray one is a converted wagon

You could also get a Corsavan (just like the Fiesta Van you found), those actually have different floorings and stuff and came like that from the Factory

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Fricking Seicento van

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Is there a Seicento Van?

I did know about the Panda Van 👀

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In the states commercial vehicles are designated by weight or passenger count, but I see why those kind of vans exist in Europe

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Omg it exists

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Thanks for the explanation 👍

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Bruh

Lol

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That's probably some Italy special lol

Although... It has a Spain license plate

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They are quite rare tho, especially nowadays. Most vans are just "vans"

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My neighbor has one

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But it sits covered in snow

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Understandable

Well there's a van version of the Renault Twizy lol

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Same with multipla and my Focus

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Twizy Cargo

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"cargo"

Puts 2 shoe boxes

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Well it's more than the 0 liters the regular Twizy has

xD

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😂

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I've driven a Twizy once (friends dad owns a Renault dealership)... Quite fun to drive

Well for 1 time

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Meanwhile me who transported 8 shoeboxes in a fricking giant ass lorry

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Fun experience, but after that nah

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Lol

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The reality that I had 3 more loads in another place

But my boss didn't tell me and I already went to UK

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That's how I also had the opportunity to drive an Alpine A110s, now that is a really great car

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https://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-127-5647_12539_71084-179800--,00.html
In my state any vehicle under 8000 lbs is a “regular” vehicle, any amount over and it’s a “commercial” vehicle

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Oof

Uhm

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The smallest car I have ever managed to drive was Clio 2

And it was pain

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I like those cars, they seem like they’re fun to drive

Kinda like a mid engine BRZ/GR86

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Everything above 3500kg (7700 pounds) is a semi truck here lol

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That new hummer weighs 9000 lbs lol

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Mid-engines, turbo charged, more power and I think even lighter

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So it'll be classed as a semi truck

xD

Hell, there even was a Lincoln SUV for sale here once, can't remember which model (I thought bigger than the Navigator?). Required a semi drivers license

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The a110 has about 20 more hp, with the lighter weight it looks like a riot

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Hell, I know an armored BMW 7er for sale which requires a semi license

A110s has 292hp

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