cars

[hexed slate]

Any Ford Falcon fans here?

[sterile idol]

The chances are low... also Aston Martin copied the wrong car this year

[haughty ridge]

Lol, and they were the most upset about the rule changes.

[stoic ledge]

[charred depot]

seems cheap to me

doing good sir

[stoic ledge]

Cheapest regular here now is 8.50 USD/gallon

[stoic ledge]

Same

Cheapest pReMiUm 9.20 USD/gallon

[weary path]

I like the late 60's models.

[stiff burrow]

[stoic ledge]

It's a bargain isn't it

[stiff burrow]

The cheapest close to me now is $2.99

Thats cash tho

[stoic ledge]

Oof sign me up

Even my "cheap" LPG is 3.22 USD/gallon, what most still would say is cheap

[stiff burrow]

That’s on 8 mile road 💀 you would be robbed or something

[stoic ledge]

(not for me as it's more than double of the regular price)

[stiff burrow]

I don’t go to any stations in the outer city of Detroit even if they’re cheaper, I’ll pay the extra 40c to go to a nicer station

[stoic ledge]

Understandable

We don't really have such unsafe stations here

Atleast not that I know off

[stiff burrow]

That’s good

[stoic ledge]

[stiff burrow]

That’s not too bad

[stoic ledge]

Compared to regular gas, yeah it is

Still surprised not more people drive on LPG here

[stiff burrow]

That’s what I was paying a few years ago for premium though

[stoic ledge]

It's an easy step to cut your fuel bill in half

half

[stiff burrow]

Yeah

If I lived somewhere where gas was expensive I’d drive an EV or alternative fuel car

[stoic ledge]

The lowest I ever paid was €0.239/l, that works out to...

1.06 USD/gallon

[stiff burrow]

Wow

[stoic ledge]

Actually EVs sell reasonably well here

Like 20% of new sold cars are EVs?

But LPG cars on the road is the lowest since like the 90's

But it saved me like 4 grand in fuel the last 5 years

And I drive ~10k miles a year, with Covid less

[vocal mural]

I was thinking about buying a CNG car. What is the advantages for it?

[stoic ledge]

Better for the environment

For the rest, not really much in 🇳🇱 Not really cheaper, + hard to get fuel (depending on the area)

In Belgium and Germany it's more interesting

[vocal mural]

I travel often to Sweden, there are a lot of CNG stations out there, and in 🇳🇱 there are some CNG in the east

[stoic ledge]

Well then that's the advantage in your specific case, so go for it 😛

[vocal mural]

I was thinking about price per km, is there any advantage?

[stoic ledge]

Don't think there's a big difference, maybe slightly lower? I think 1kg CNG ~ 1l of petrol?

[vocal mural]

CNG (gas onder hoge druk)
1 l diesel = 5 l CNG

Source: TotalEnergies

[charred depot]

was sitting parked and the saab just decided to shut itself off :^| the fuel gauge had been funky so I was like ohno please start please start.

its slowly learning start stop technology

[vocal mural]

Ban internal combustion engines in 2040: I say NO

Ban on Petrol, LPG and Diesel is OK. But give some alternatives and let encourage CNG and Hydrogen for personal cars, and LNG for HGV's

[fathom socket]

why lpg?

[civic girder]

The problem with banning ice engines is that it really doesn't solve the root environmental issue

Electricity is the number one polluter

What happens when you replace a car with an ev? you put an increased strain on the electrical grid.

Your fancy pants ev pollutes no less than your neighbors ice car.

Like I always say, there's a dozen things worse than gas and diesel burning cars out there

if anything, ban diesel since it's worse than gas and lpg

literal crude oil burning cargo ships
jet fuel
coal power plants
etc

a greater emphasis on improving fuel economy and making hybrids more prevalent makes the most sense to me

[civic spoke]

The problem isn't electricity by itself.

It's how it's produced.

[civic girder]

that's what I mean

[civic spoke]

Since many parts of the world still burn coal, efc for it.

[civic girder]

the electricity production industry is the number one source of pollution in the world

[civic spoke]

Remember guys.
Reduce.
Reuse.
Recycle.

[vocal mural]

This year is EU year of Rail

Introduce fly tax and make train cheaper is what we all can agree with, or not?

[haughty ridge]

Yeah, flying to Berlin from Amsterdam is cheaper than going there by train. So why would you ever choose the train

[solemn inlet]

All the ways they think its produced is relying to much on the weather. Sun and wind sometimes dont even show themselves. What happens then lol? Thats what people these days dont think about

[charred depot]

pretty much always windy here

[civic spoke]

Hail hydra.

[solemn inlet]

Plus coal produces like 400 - 1000+ MW while wind and solar 1 - 100 MW

[charred depot]

theres a big fuck off wind turbine in my town so all green here

[solemn inlet]

one turbine isn't going to be enough for a big town tho

[dense shard]

Add more

[charred depot]

I dont live in a big town

[solemn inlet]

okay but

the cost

[dense shard]

Yes?

Coal is expensive as fuck

[solemn inlet]

they like to burn up if they aren't maintained

[dense shard]

So maintain them

[solemn inlet]

My point is. The way we're going isn't gonna work

[charred depot]

Im sure if we can manufacture planes at the scale we do we can make wind turbines.

[visual lotus]

Toyota #1

🙂

[dense shard]

Planes are shit for the environment

[solemn inlet]

I see EV's going to shit in the next 20 years

[visual lotus]

i agree

[solemn inlet]

hybrids are gonna be king

[charred depot]

turbine in the center of my down produces around 1.5MW

[solemn inlet]

I won't be surprised if they get 1 Litre engines making 200hp from motors

[solemn inlet]

Bugger all right?

[visual lotus]

Toyota Prius still Rockin 50mpg

[charred depot]

its just one turbine at the center of our town

theres more around it but those are in fields

[solemn inlet]

But u try and add all the EV charging to those 1.5 MW turbines

they'll fall flat man

Every house is gonna have one. Most worlds power grids are keeping a float right now

[fathom socket]

Feed me fuel rods

But what about nuclear power plants?

[solemn inlet]

A lot of people dont want them because of the scary "meltdowns"

I'm all for it honestly

[dense shard]

Utilities and countries will expand when the time comes

They have in the past

[analog musk]

geothermal is infintily more capable then nuclear

[fathom socket]

Now everything is much safer then before

[solemn inlet]

^

[fathom socket]

And I think we ain't gonna build the flawed soviet designs and we don't have high risk of natural disasters

At least here in Poland

[fathom socket]

What are restrictions of these?

Most of nuclear incidents were on such a small scale

[analog musk]

currnetly drill tech is a little bit bhined but, honeslty once we start making more capable coolent systems for drills,
or just make more geothermal plants in thinner crust locations
we can proububly power most of south amarica off of just chilie,
now that does mean they are more vunerble to shock from earthquakes, so chilie is a little bit more danogurs
but places in the USA, are easly tappable. gerothermal plants, are cheaper then nuclear,
infintily more safe, cause effecvtily no damage to the envorment,
and it only requiers water and pumps. it systems are a lot less complex, which means the engnears, once it is drilled can be common, and don't need to be highly trained or educated, as the systems there working with are simpler then a dam.
the risitrction currnetly is, the lack of mass use of the technogly, but the technogly itself is more promising then fusion energy,

its much smaller then solar or wind, and is much much easer to build. the amaount of work that goes into making a wind plant or solar plant or nuclear plant is massive, all of which cause huge damage to the envorment. you have to wait a long time for solar and wind to pay back the resources used. geothermal, does not have this draw back.

it is case spsific. you don't want to drill 5 miles through a mountian in the rocky mountains, but if you had too drilling off the coast or near costal is exceedingly easy.

geothermal is a new technogly. and like any its not perfect at this time. but once drill tech is far along enough, nuclear, and coal plants are bassicly obsolite.

now, the mobilty of nuclear power like micro nuclear reactors that could be intresting but currently they don't exist on a large scale and proububly only will be used for ice breakers and reaserch bases in remote areas

[civic girder]

but at the same time

there's nothing inherently wrong with wind, solar, or nuclear

They're all less environmentally impactful than coal and natural gas

plus you can't forget hydro electric power

And yes, if a nuclear reactor goes into meltdown you can fuck shit up. But realistically it shouldn't happen 9 times out of 10 if you have competent personnel.

Wind and Solar I will agree 100% are not cost effective to use on a large scale

better in localized situations, like solar panels on the roof of a building and wind turbines on some dude's farm

geothermal is great tho

But the problem is that its not likely to be implemented, just like everything else

Why spend all the money to switch to something new when we can just keep using what we have?
Its the wrong mindset, but that's the inherent problem with how the world is run. Corporate greed reaches too far

[analog musk]

nuclear, is expesnive, and it requiers huge amounts of engnears to produce a reactor. that doesn't mean its bad it just means gerothemal is way better for devloping countrys who would otherwise rely on coal, which makes gerothmal a much much better option. comptent perosnal, are exmtelry importent for nuclear power plants. that makes them very expensive.

hydro electic power is extnerslty terrble for fish, that doesn't mean it is all bad, it is argbuuily very good but not every country can build a long term high power hydro electirc plant. a coal plant is far simpler to produce, geothermal plants are just as simple.

solar, is stupid, you can fight me on it but I think that currnetly you should just go wind. its literuily infintily cheaper, its way easer to cleanup, you can rcycle bassicly everthing on it cheaply unlike solar, and wind is going to be way easer to setup in mass, it takes up less ground space. downside is it takes up a lot of land, just like solar. geothermal, takes up as much as a coal plant, which is very very small, and doesn't nead a coal mine, which means its even smaller.

rare earth metals, silcon, and nickle mining is done commonly by china, who does it out of africa, who is not setup to have safe working conditions for those mines. this is a bad thing, a geothermal plant doesn't requier the same amount of rare earth metals as the other soruces of energy, solar and wind.

the arugment isn't 'oh we shouldn't switch becuase it costs money' is wrong, devloping countrys, china, included, are not in a psoitoin to switch. the US, and the west, have a lot to do with this problem, but its not just coprations, govemrints of delvoping countrys cannot just tell there people 'oh your going to starve because sombody in the USA with a smartphone seid you can't make any more coal plants'
the world is eterntily ruined not by the function of 'greedy deloping countrys' but by the fact that they have no other real choice,

wind energy is way more expesniive, then coal. so is, solar, not long term, but initailly its so expsnive that, it cannot be effectivly employed. geothermal will be the pwoer soruce that is used, once it becomes ecnomical, and it will be far better then nuclear, wind, or solar.

now solar, and wind on a small scale, are quite good. so is geothermal. coal, is not. and coal, will be replaced with geothermal.

[fathom socket]

1988 Dodge Ram D150 LE

[analog musk]

nice

[analog musk]

argubily, it could be, for the short term, for nations that are not delvoping.

nations like the US, or britan, can super easly build them, and there ecnomys are not manfuactring based. there industery is in china, mostly, who on the other hand, cannot possibly shift to wind.

[remote ridge]

Nuclear I think is an underated option

[analog musk]

nuclear is not underated or people would use it more often. its not just becuase people don't like it becuase they think of chernoble, china would use it in every case if it was cheaper or safer to oprate. the issue is if you try to make it in mass, for cheap, its dangours. if you try adn make it, small, and safe, and for a high price, its expensive, and that intial pay out doens't look good for investors waiting 20 years in the US to get a return.

its why micro nuclear power plants, are infintily better then big nuclear.

nuclear isn't really underated as much as misunderstood.

it cannot be a repalcment for coal, or oil.

[dense shard]

Nuclear is wonderful if expensive

And nuclear is absolutely a replacement for fossil fuels

[analog musk]

that is interily incorrect
and I never sied it wasn't good when expensive I seid it was expensive with makes it not a replacment for fossile fules

[dense shard]

Renewables coupled with more efficient tech, batteries, and a change in lifestyle is absolutely feasible

[analog musk]

tell me how in hell a nation like ethopia is going to replace a coal mining plant with a nuclear power source

[dense shard]

Coal prices will only go up. Same for oil

[analog musk]

for a first world country

[dense shard]

How will Ethiopia? Easy

Developed countries will help

Time to stop acting like we're alone. Climate change affects everyone

Politics have gotten increasingly stupid in relation to climate change imo

America, France, and the UK can afford multiple aircraft carriers. They can afford to help in the global transition to clean energy

[analog musk]

no they will not. they clearly are not helping. they will not help smaller nations. there is no need to help smaller nations. the USA, if you asked say one person from congress like dan crenshaw if we should 'give away our tax dollers' to ethopia and build a nuclear reactor there he will say 'f&&& no'

poltics are massivly powerful, saying they should just go away is a frever dream, they will never go away. geotheraml, is cheaper, and does the same thing nuclear does, but with far less waste and far less requiered edcatuioin. this invaldates the intire function of having nuclear power plants.

[analog musk]

those nuclear power plants, are massivly expensive. they can afford them. but only to defend there nations. this does not mean there going to build them, for nations like ethopia. poltics, ruins everthing nucleear. but nuclear is also eexpensive, which ruins everthing nuclear.

the US woul dhave to educate them, on nuclear technoglys for them to be able to oprate a nuclear power plant, which by the way, the US is not going to do. poltics, again ruin everthing.

but that also means geothermal is the better if not the only option.

[dense shard]

Also it appears wind is much cheaper than geothermal

[dapper zinc]

what about the birdstrikes?

[analog musk]

that is like saying building a nucleaer bomb in 1930 was more expensive then using canouns and thats why they used canouns. the technogly isn't there in, only drilling. geotheraml, once drills are put out in more effect, will be infintily cheaper, creates way more power, and oprates with far less maintince.

[dense shard]

What about them?

https://www.inspirecleanenergy.com/blog/clean-energy-101/is-renewable-energy-cheaper

Birdstrikes are red herring

What about ecosystem destruction brought on by coal?

Or oil spills?

[dapper zinc]

if you had to clean up all the dead birds on your property you wouldn't call it a red herring

[dense shard]

Do you?

[dapper zinc]

yes

[dense shard]

How many birds

I imagine fewer than coal runoff

[dapper zinc]

depends, im only on the farm some weekends, its in the hundreds across the property

[dense shard]

https://www.sierraclub.org/michigan/wind-turbines-and-birds-and-bats

Perhaps we get rid of cellphone towers and power lines

I'll take wind over coal everyday of the week

[stoic ledge]

Nuclear is the only way to create a lot of green power, and it's very stable

[dense shard]

The future isn't cheap.

But I'll take paying more to charge my phone vs cosplaying as Kevin Costner in Sea World.

[fathom socket]

1986 Dodge Ram D150 Royal SE

[fathom socket]

Nuclear in my opinion is the best way to produce lots of energy and not pollute air

Ofc it creates waste, but unlike air pollution it can be managed

[fathom socket]

more better

[thin juniper]

Cars are cool

Beep beep

[dense shard]

https://tenor.com/view/isetta-driving-car-rolling-lobster-studio-gif-14710726

[viscid atlas]

Literal driving coffin

[fathom socket]

Y'all ever hit top speed of your car?

[indigo coral]

nope

[stoic ledge]

Kind of Went over the listed top speed but it still had a bit more to give

[copper salmon]

@fathom socket my justy tops at 80 hhahah 😆 😆

Loud af no muffler 3 cylinder

[fathom socket]

Kmh?

[copper salmon]

Kmh? Idk what that means

@fathom socket

[fathom socket]

Kilometres / hour

[hexed slate]

Oh nice. Us aussies have the newer ones. Like the BF Falcon.

[copper salmon]

Nope mph@fathom socket

[stiff burrow]

Nope, but I want to some day. Fastest I’ve gone is 100 passing somebody on the highway though 😂

[stoic ledge]

Oof so my 1.2 has gone faster than your super saloon 😛

[flint sable]

107 on an on ramp

[charred depot]

My peugeots top speed is around 80mph badmanshiz

[stiff burrow]

🤨 mph or kmh

100mph = 160kmh

[charred depot]

pretty sure the listed top speed for a 1.2 corsa is around 110mph so yes mph

I know the alignment is totally fucked on this car but ive never had one of those fancy 4 wheel laser alignments that people with german cars do. Im not really sure how you could adjust the camber on this car other than unbolting the strut at the top and moving it around in the ~1cm of play it has.

I was just going to do my usual toe alignment because the steering wheel isnt straight

[fathom socket]

meanwhile me going straight be like

[stoic ledge]

Yeah did ~105-110mph

Iirc I stopped at 108mph (175km/h)

[fathom socket]

my focus mk1 1.8 16v did 180 kmh on 3 cylinders

[stiff burrow]

Lol nice

I don’t speed because there are too many idiots where I can go fast

People go 65 in the left lane when the speed limit is 70, sometimes people just change lanes in front of you when they are going way too slow, people drift between lanes, don’t let you pass

It’s horrible

Fastest I go is 79 because the police will pull you over if you’re going over 80 anyway

[vocal mural]

Sitting in a Talbot ICM now

[fathom socket]

just go to germany

[vocal mural]

Talbot is German.

[flint sable]

Would love to @fathom socket

I have a friend who recently moved back to America from Germany

Online friend

[fathom socket]

https://i.redd.it/ufa614pzq0z71.jpg

Forbidden fountain drinks

[charred depot]

no 15W40 :^ |

or 10W40

[dense shard]

forbidden slurpees

no 0W-16

[fathom socket]

The mighty Hyundai Tucson 2005 is at 360k miles let's see if it will reach 400k.

[charred depot]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-59254298.amp heh

[charred depot]

Mr MacConnacher, who drives 25 miles to Aberfoyle, Stirlingshire, each day for work, said he needs a large car as he often faces "challenging conditions" on the road in winter.

Aaahahaha

I dont agree with it but find it hilarious

Should have went after them offering tyre inflation for £20 each

I drive 60 miles to stirlingshire and that guys excuse is pish

Just say you prefer the suv

[fathom socket]

I got a question can you do a full digital dash conversion on a Dodge Aries K like with touch screen or LEDs?

[viral raptor]

My car nearly didn't pass inspection because guess what? The license plate lights were the wrong color...

They're white

[stoic ledge]

Maybe too white and too bright? Might be confusing for other drivers coming up behind you to see bright white lights

[carmine summit]

Probably, using something like a Holley ECU

if you can wire it up and make it run the engine, then you can just plug a holley digital dash into it

be prepared to spend thousands though lol

https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/gauges_and_displays/lcd_displays/

[fathom socket]

Basically a racing hot hatch

[fathom socket]

and now he'll need to get new tyres i presume?

[charred depot]

I think they just deflated them, didnt slash

[scarlet nest]

me love cars

[civic spoke]

I saw a bit of a unicorn today.

It was a Ford F-Max.

[stoic ledge]

Same

[fathom socket]

anyone opinion on this car?\

[stoic ledge]

We had it for 9 years

Everybody said they have electrical problems

We had 0

[vocal mural]

Ready for the scrap

[stoic ledge]

If it's the 1.6 16v, it'll run forever. 2.0 is also fine, 1.4 is too little

[stoic ledge]

You're mistaking it for a VW

[charred depot]

advisory free MOT on a ropey 80s "luxury car"

[dusk ocean]

What's MOT?

😛

[fathom socket]

it has 1.8

[stoic ledge]

Wait what

I didn't know they put a 1.8 in a 307

🤔

[fathom socket]

o no wait

[stoic ledge]

Wikipedia doesn't know anything about it either

[fathom socket]

I'm stupid

it has 1.6

[stoic ledge]

So x doubt

Oh yeah those engines are great

[fathom socket]

the picasso had 1.8

[stoic ledge]

Ah yes

[fathom socket]

but it was ugly AF

and unergonomic

this is the only car I found after going to 6 car dealers

also 7 seater

higer res pic

[stoic ledge]

We had a 2003 307 Break (so not the sunroof and a rear bench instead of separate chairs) 1.6 16v for 9 years, no problems with it whatsoever

We only got rid of it because

1. after 9 years we wanted something else
2. it needed a few things done (like rear shocks) but we didn't want to invest the money as we were looking at a different car

But not broken stuff, just maintenance stuff

[charred depot]

I think I know someone that had one that wore one of lower control arm bushings so much the rubber was basically non existent.

[vocal mural]

The destination for all Stellantis cars: https://youtu.be/F99Ukg5OjHA

[charred depot]

sad

[pearl tiger]

Crap

[vocal mural]

That happens with South European cars

[charred depot]

corroded oil pan?

Had a pretty nice driveway till my power steering pump went and all the fluid pooled in the undertray then when I went into my sloped drive it all gushed out over the driveway staining it.

[stoic ledge]

Apparently I don't really have pics of the 307, but this was it

Had it from 2007 to 2017 so almost 10 years (it's a 2003)

It's actually still on the road

[civic spoke]

Have you tried turning it off and back on again?

[pearl tiger]

Broken driveshaft

@charred depot

[cursive hazel]

Toyota Corolla is coming to fh5

Lol an unconventional car

Is coming finally

[night current]

The Ae86?

Or the modern Corolla?

[charred depot]

Yikes only ever had the outer joint go bad and make horrible noises

[eager grove]

Huh, they’ve started selling Highlanders in the UK

I have often wondered why US market 3 row SUVs don’t sell here

When we do buy German ones

[stoic ledge]

Yeah they brought it to Europe as there's now the Hybrid option

Same for the Ford Exploder, you can buy the PHEV

[eager grove]

Huh, interesting. Suggesting it was emmissions that kept them out of the UK market. Wonder if we’ll see a Sienna as well

[charred depot]

everythings going big

told my dad one of the neighbours new cars was a Fiat 500X and he was like wit I thought those were meant to be tiny.

fiat 500 overdosed on steroids

[hidden niche]

perju7uegt LOLZ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TnGjq9mWSI&t=42s

[solemn inlet]

Full send in the pootroll

[warm sparrow]

RB26 Patrol !

[charred depot]

Had my saab on the lift holy fucking shit I should have taken a picture of the bushings on the way bar links

MOT: Pass

bushings are just totally fucked

Might be able to stick my phone under and get a photo

[charred depot]

MAH GRASS!

[warm sparrow]

where does the vid come from ?

is it RB swapped or JZ swapped ?

can't figure it out with the sound though I have a preference for the 2JZ

[fathom socket]

what do you think of Ford C-Max I 1.8 Duratec HE?

it happens so often in UK

at least where I was driving

[charred depot]

aslong as its not a deer or sheep kalm

sheeps not too destructive

as soon as its a deer panik

[visual lotus]

MURICA WHOOOOO

[solemn inlet]

Friend gave it. Sounds like RB28, TB48

[celest minnow]

S+ tier

[sterile idol]

20 Laps on a Hard Tyre... RedBull strategists are joking imo

some interesting Track limits definition at turn 4 lol

[spiral scaffold]

Will dbrand start to make carwrapping at some point? Maybe in pink with green stripes for Linus?

[full dome]

https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/qtw0by/where_my_10mm_go/

[zinc gate]

They didn't

[sterile idol]

Yeah... They didn't... Seemed like a waste

[zinc gate]

Have you seen the tires?

I don't think they could've gone that far

[charred depot]

lol having a car with obd2

[vocal mural]

2001 car

Diesel with OBDII

[charred depot]

return to mechanical diesel

[charred depot]

might be getting obd2 if insurance let me swap my 1995 saab 900 to a newer GM diesel engine

[civic girder]

I have two 1995 model year cars

one has OBD1, the other has OBD2

lol

[eager grove]

Once with my mum in Spring we must have seen 40 rabbits on the road, I told her off for braking/swerving

[vocal mural]

@stoic ledge The only thing Peugeot is good at is making pepper and salt mills

[stoic ledge]

@vocal mural The only thing VW is good at is making Currywurst

[vocal mural]

VW stopped making Currywurst

[stoic ledge]

I know, so they stopped making good stuff

[charred depot]

No one around for miles so was fun to see how good my brakes are

My sway bar link has massive play

Bushing is obliterated

Atleast this design doesent make that mind numbing knocking noise else i might have actually replaced it by now

[pearl tiger]

so apparenlty my gearbox has a hole

[cursive hazel]

Wtf

[cursive hazel]

How many speeds is it

[pearl tiger]

6 speed

[cursive hazel]

Oh

[cursive hazel]

What vehicle does it belong to

[pearl tiger]

Fiat Stilo 1.4 16V 70kW

[civic spoke]

Still a vehicle. Just not one you can take many places...

[fathom socket]

Cat

I'm thinking about getting this focus c max

[timber oar]

Why a focus

[astral merlin]

classic uber driver car

[timber oar]

shudders

[stiff burrow]

what a shame https://insideevs.com/news/547809/toyota-team-japan/amp/

[timber oar]

if we see the carbon reclaiming fuel being figured out and produced to keep gas engines alive id prefer that tbh

[viral raptor]

Hmm my car makes a low pitched grinding noise when engine braking

Quite concerning because I feel like it's gonna be an expensive fix and I don't really have the money for that rn

[charred depot]

2 weeks later

[stiff burrow]

i think that is a great option for people who want ice cars, but for most ppl i think electrics are better

[fathom socket]

Because it's the only car that is big enough for me I can afford

But it turned out it needs new clutch, tyres and needs insurance

[stiff burrow]

focuses are not bad aside from transmission issues

but i think that is mostly with the automatics

[north bough]

its beautiful

[timber oar]

i just want an excuse to keep ice's around lol

as much as electric is better

there needs to be character

[fathom socket]

If I could even get an automatic trans here

[timber oar]

manuals all the way

except if you want paddle shifters

[crude grove]

has anyone seen Supercar Blondie's McLaren 720s upgrade vid?

[stoic ledge]

Supercar Blondie is the last person I'll watch videos from

[crude grove]

oh

[fathom socket]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/893110344447311922/909722407688892456/unknown.png

So slo

My desktop

[timber oar]

Eyyy it's the Mercedes 6x6

[stiff burrow]

People talk about how manual is more “engaging” but all you’re doing is moving a thing around while you’re driving 💀

[stiff burrow]

This game looks so good

[fathom socket]

I feel anxious driving autos

Especially old and slow ones

[stiff burrow]

Why

[fathom socket]

I feel like the transmission does things against me

Very often takes ages to downshift

I'm not convinced to older autos

But I did like how cvt drives

[stiff burrow]

I think it’s silly to complain about slower autos because it would take longer to shift yourself anyway

[arctic ermine]

For a comfortable daily, auto is the way to go. Nobody wants to be stuck in traffic working a heavy clutch but for a nice weekend car, the feeling of redlining it or nailing a rev match is something else

[haughty ridge]

The feeling of shifting gears is nice, and the sense of extra control over the car is nice IMO.

[charred depot]

plenty of not that old automatics which will seldum do what you want in a timely manner.

atleast with a manual you can pre-emptively shift

you know exactly what is going to happen and exactly what power you have

much older car but 30 seconds in the passenger seat of an automatic vauxhall senator hearing the auto do its thing is enough to drive ones self to auto induced suicide

[stiff burrow]

Maybe part of it is that my car has a fast automatic, but I never find myself in a situation where I would want to choose a gear for a turn or road. I just floor the gas pedal and it chooses a low gear for acceleration, then settles out once I hit the speed I want

[charred depot]

your car is hardly low end

plenty of average older but not nearly eol cars with completely dreadful automatics

[civic girder]

Having driven both auto and manual. There's absolutely no reason to be up in arms

Daily driving a manual is tedious and annoying

And a shit manual transmission is worse than a mediocre auto

Just drive what you prefer and stop bitching about other people's choices

[dense shard]

Never had issues with automatics

[civic girder]

The only time I'd say an automatic is the wrong choice is if it's a Nissan CVT or an early 2000s V6 Honda

the two worst transmissions of all time

Guaranteed to fail more often than a remanufactured Renesis

[charred depot]

didnt realise anyone was brave enough to offer that service

[civic girder]

Most automatics let you pick gears anyway lmfao

[charred depot]

Prefer older cars so will be manuals till im forced onto an EV

[civic girder]

My van has L/Low (1st gear), 2 (up to 2nd gear), D/Drive (up to 3rd gear), and O/D / Overdrive (up to 4th gear)

And there's lots of moderately new automatics with a manual mode

[dense shard]

By 80s American logic

My car is a 4 speed with 2 overdrives

[civic girder]

old American slush boxes aren't even that bad

theyre just built for a purpose that isn't fun and/or speed

[charred depot]

mpgs bad enough thx

[civic girder]

you get what you pay for in a sense

you aren't buying a luxury or semi-luxury car for the fuel economy

that's what an econobox or a hybrid is for

[charred depot]

Im considering fitting one of those electric power steering pumps to my saab, maybe one from an mr2

little mpg bump

[civic girder]

I doubt it would increase mpg

[charred depot]

well id get better mpg if I just didnt have power steering

but that would wear the rack and the column wasnt meant for it

[civic girder]

Logically, there's still a load required to power the steering. It's just not directly driven by the crank anymore

[charred depot]

with the electric motor it isnt always pumping

[civic girder]

what

[charred depot]

deleting the ps on my saab

[civic girder]

a rack and pinion is a rack and pinion

Not having ps on it doesn't make a difference on how it wears

[charred depot]

the joints on the column arent intended for that load

it was designed with power steering in mind

[civic girder]

People depower steering racks all the time

You just have to properly seal off where hoses would connect and fill it with proper fluid

[charred depot]

yes and some cars have issues with the column joints when you do that

[civic girder]

[charred depot]

the load on the U joint on a power steering column is way less than a manual steering rack one

[civic girder]

that doesn't make sense

[charred depot]

notice how light your steering is with power steering

you take power steering away and that joint has to deal with a much higher load and will accelerate its wear

[civic girder]

it's light because the turning of the wheels is assisted

[charred depot]

at the rack.

[civic girder]

The actual load should be the same. If anything, having power steering would increase the load since it's pressurized

[charred depot]

the load on the U joint is what you feel at the wheel

[civic girder]

[charred depot]

the steering wheel is transmitted to the rack through the U joint if you are putting all your force into the wheel that is the force that the U joint is dealing with

this is an issue which is actually serious on some porsche where owners delete the PS for the driving experience.

it can strip out the shaft that the joint goes onto

[civic girder]

I've literally never heard of that

it makes no sense

[charred depot]

well the load is literally higher without power steering

[civic girder]

How???

[charred depot]

If you are heaving on your steering wheel

that U joint is going to be heaving

[civic girder]

what?

[charred depot]

the load on those U joints is whatever you have at the steering wheel

without a power steering rack the load will be higher if you ignore ratio differences.

[civic girder]

But why is the load higher?

[charred depot]

are you trolling

genuinely

[civic girder]

No

Find me sources that explain

[stoic ledge]

Never had this issue

[civic girder]

I cannot find anything

[charred depot]

this needs no sources

this is simple mechanics

[civic girder]

I tried google searching this and found nothing to back you up

[charred depot]

Look at porsche 944 power steering delete

https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turbo-and-turbo-s-forum/62140-power-steering-delete.html I know theres better threads than this

"It's not easy. You will have to replace the rack and complete steering shaft. The joints in the shaft and all other things concerned steering in the PS 951 cannot be used without p/s. Some people just removed their belt and pump and ended up with even a broke shaft or rack. Quite a lot of work will be involved. "

Regardless of if this is an issue you understand the load on the joints is higher without power steering right.

[civic girder]

Yeah, the "right" way to convert to manual steering is to swap in a rack and column with proper ratios. That's why they say that.
But you don't have to do that

[charred depot]

"broke shaft"

[civic girder]

I don't see any threads saying that no ps on a PS rack will break it

[charred depot]

but you understand the load is higher right

[vocal mural]

Never but a FIAT with automatic gearbox

[civic girder]

I don't see why the load would be highee

the ratio is still the same

[charred depot]

The U joint feels what you feel

If you are stationary or slow and try to turn the wheel thats alot of force

[civic girder]

It'd be like driving without a brake booster. Theres just an assistance that relieves the need for high input

I don't understand how it would lower the actual load on anything in the system

[charred depot]

You would feel the steering as heavier right?

Then so would the U joint on the shaft the steering wheel is attached to

[vocal mural]

About automatic gearboxes:
DAF (later known as Volvo) invented the VarioMatic gearboxes where you can drive as fast backwards as forwards, in the Netherlands they held competitions with cars equipped with VarioMatic gearboxes as you must drive so fast backwarts as possblie in the 1980's

[civic girder]

It's heavier because it's not assisted. Just like my power brakes analogy

[vocal mural]

Video: https://youtu.be/S7ipFApsFec

[charred depot]

ok so its heavier on the shaft.

and heavier on the U joint

[civic girder]

But in manual brakes, it being heavier doesn't change anything. Just higher input.
I fail to understand why the load would be higher

[charred depot]

Take a paper straw hold the end of the loosely and spin it at the other end

Hold it tightly at the end then spin it and it will twist.

[stoic ledge]

If you're talking about the Selespeed or Dualogic: those were just robotized manuals, those aren't the best by the nature of it. The main advantage was that they're relatively cheap compared to real automatics, and often got better fuel economy compared to the slush boxes available at the time

[civic girder]

yes, that's why u-joints exist lol

[charred depot]

To transmit a force

A force that is higher if you dont have power steering

[civic girder]

I still don't see why the force would be higher

[charred depot]

because the force you are putting on the steering wheel is higher

how does that force suddenly become less at the U joint in your mind

the same deal applies to the rack design, the rack and pinion are generally much weaker on power steering racks than their manual counterparts.

on power steering racks the majority of the force is dealt with by the piston section

so the rack and pinion doesent have to be as built as manual racks

[civic girder]

the force on the u-joint should not change because the steering rack is still moving the same regardless. The added input at the wheel without ps compensates for the input provided by the ps pump.
The force on the rack and u-joints should be the same regardless.

[charred depot]

I honestly cant

If the force you are applying to the steering wheel is higher the load on the U joint is higher

that is a fact regardless of if its a power steering or manual rack

the force you are applying is what that U joint sees

The only situation in which this is not true is a column electric power steering unit

[civic girder]

if the ps pump moves the rack entirely on its own, there would still be a load on the u-joint, right?

I don't see why that load would be less with the pump working

[charred depot]

If your steering shaft was a twig would it be more likely to break with power steering or without it

[charred depot]

Because the load at the wheel is less.

[civic girder]

what

[charred depot]

With power steering, the wheel is lighter

Less load on the shaft

[civic girder]

it feels lighter because it's assisted. The whole system is still moving just the same

[charred depot]

The assistance is applied at the rack

so the column doesent have to deal with as much force and therefor the driver

[civic girder]

right, but if the rack moves, then the column also moves too

[charred depot]

How can the force on the U joint possibly be the same when you are yanking on the wheel vs turning it with a pinky while stopped

The power steering rack makes the input "lighter" with its assistance

[civic girder]

if this were true, then why do people delete ps or drive with no belt all the time

[charred depot]

it is true

[civic girder]

if it was going to breakt shit, people wouldn't do it very often

[charred depot]

It doesent always but it has the potential to in some cars

[civic girder]

I still can't find evidence supporting that

[charred depot]

but it is a fact that the load is higher

[civic girder]

I can't find anything that supports that either ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[charred depot]

its a simple mechanical system

[civic girder]

indeed

[charred depot]

if steering wheel is "lighter" the load on the U joint is less I dont get how that doesent click for you

they are all on the same shaft

how does the force magically change from point to point

[dense shard]

Depends on the type of power steering

[charred depot]

yes..

went into that at a point in this conversation

[dense shard]

Some modern EPS systems are at the column

[charred depot]

mhm

[stoic ledge]

Just remove the fuse

[charred depot]

if theres money to be saved theres money to be saved they arent going to build the rack and pinion to the same strength as manual racks if they dont need to.

Same goes for the joints

[dense shard]

But load before the power steering is going to be lighter by virtue of less torque being needed to change the wheel's position

Modern cars are over engineered. I sincerely doubt no EPS would break anything

[charred depot]

Argument stemmed from my car which has a hydraulic rack

Looking at fitting a electric pump unit from an MR2

takes a speed input so you can have it tighten up at higher speeds

[timber oar]

Manual is fun

Feeling the synchros slide in and everything

I can assure you it's a lot more than just moving a stick around lol

[charred depot]

the GM sloppy shifter manual experience is truly awe inspiring

Or the french hunt for first gear

[dense shard]

Manual is fun, but people act like it's the only way to enjoy driving.

[pearl tiger]

i never drove automatic, so i cant compare

[fathom socket]

do BEVs count as automatic?
because they only have one (fixed) gear.

by definition, a BEV is a manual.
because u do not have automatic transmittion

[vocal mural]

Since i got my driving license (2 months ago) I have once driven a automatic (BMW from a friend) and i really liked it

But manual gives more control on hills

[fathom socket]

sometimes I would die to have manual instead of auto because of this

but no.
all the trucks have only auto and sequential gearbox is locked

I was thinking of getting this car

it seems to be decent, good price and it needs some minor repair and insurance

[haughty ridge]

How many KMs has it driven?

[fathom socket]

it has "200700" km

a 2.0 petrol

[haughty ridge]

That's realistic, but it is a lot.

[fathom socket]

it might have actual higher

[fathom socket]

my ford has 320k km

but the engine got killed by gas

[haughty ridge]

Damn, my merc has 149k on it.

[fathom socket]

I need to get my head replaced and it's not really worth

and I need a bigger car

[haughty ridge]

Yeah, it's not worth it.

[fathom socket]

runs on 3 cylinders because it has no compression on cylinder 1

[charred depot]

How much is a saab 9-5 aero hot turbo hot aero turbo over there

[fathom socket]

IDK. i haven't seen any for sale

[fathom socket]

literally the best car I've seen that doesn't seem trash at first glance

[fathom socket]

I have my car for 10.5 months now and I'm at about 12k km.
its a VW e-up

insurance is set to 15k, I'll hope not to surpass that before one years' up...

[fathom socket]

What happens if you do surpass?

[charred depot]

fit bigger tyres pay less for insurance hehe

on the plus side my speedo is now pretty accurate

[eager grove]

In the UK they don't check - it's just an estimate

[charred depot]

went over mine pretty much every time

[eager grove]

if you're consistently over or if you're in a really low bracket then you have to sign a declaration

[fathom socket]

I did go over like 2x

[fathom socket]

I'd need to pay or lose the guarantee or somewhat

[stiff burrow]

How much is it being sold for

[fathom socket]

6000 pln

or approx 1300 eur

it still better than my current one

[stiff burrow]

That’s better than I expected

[fathom socket]

mine is worth like

in negative

[stiff burrow]

Lol

[fathom socket]

it's so broken

[charred depot]

scrap worth much over there?

still regret not taking the cat off our civic I thought they would check

[fathom socket]

generally you have to pay to scrap the cars

[charred depot]

wow that sucks

[fathom socket]

sometimes you can get paid if it's in good enough condition

but mechanics in my ford are fucked

[charred depot]

get £300 ish if you drive the car to them here

[fathom socket]

I just want a car it will get me half across europe like 6 times till the summer

[civic girder]

I would not say that. They still have a park and reverse, which you are not manually controlling by hand. Afaik BEVs don't even have a traditionally defined transmission. More of a direct drive into the differential, bypassing a gear reduction entirely; the only fixed gear is the final drive.

It can't be a manual if there's no transmission to begin with.

And can't be a manual if you aren't physically controlling the mode of the transmission. By definition an automatic transmission is indirectly controlled by the driver; instead solenoids tell the transmission what gear to be in.

[vocal mural]

@fathom socket When you are in the Netherlands, would you accept a challenge?

[fathom socket]

What kind of challange?

[eager grove]

I've often thought it would hilarious to have a manual transmission BEV with a single forward and reverse gear

[vocal mural]

Driving a lorry in a national park were there are many curves

[fathom socket]

sadly I no work longer there

also I had a lot of driving on roads like this in UK

[civic girder]

Many people that EV swap manual cars keep the transmission and just use 2nd and 3rd gear for forward

[civic spoke]

Me driving through a national park.

[civic spoke]

I took a right turn.

[fathom socket]

I feel there is something wrong, but not really sure where

looks like the rear is hanging too low

[charred depot]

amazingly theres nothing wrong, just the weird uneven surface made it look like the rear is slammed

[fathom socket]

ye

meanwhile my ford

[charred depot]

ford probably still gets better mpg despite not making power on one cylinder

[fathom socket]

It got converted from 1.8L to a 1.35L engine

[fathom socket]

IDK the MPG, but I get 12l/100km

since the cylinfder wenty out

[charred depot]

10l/100km on the schaab

[fathom socket]

normally I would be doing 9l/100km

since maintaning 140 kmh with less power costs more fuel I think

[charred depot]

tried unplugging the injector on the screwed cylinder

[fathom socket]

Never dared to do that

But also runs on lpg

[charred depot]

if you were over here could attempt my first engine swap

[fathom socket]

I just said screw it

It's not worth fixing

[charred depot]

suppose the car is rusty so not worth paying anyone for their time

[fathom socket]

Ye

Still thinking about getting this one

It's rust free

Mechanicy it seems the suspension needs new bushings

[charred depot]

diesel not viable over there

[fathom socket]

it's petrol

[charred depot]

i mean would you not consider getting a diesel

[fathom socket]

at this price it's really difficult to find diesel that I could get the right emission class

[charred depot]

ah emissions arent so much an issue here

[fathom socket]

in germany in umweltzone is

[charred depot]

yeah I wouldnt be able to go into london without getting charged like £10 a day

[fathom socket]

and also some cities in Poland are doing this thing too

[charred depot]

not a thing in Scotland yet thankfully although Edinburgh may do it soon

It wont be long before my peugeot would be ULEZ exempt though

[fathom socket]

I don't really want to risk getting a Diesel on cars of this age

also they scare me how expensive they can get to fix

[charred depot]

I wouldnt get a modern diesel for sure

an older but not that old peugeot hdi shouldnt be too bad though

[fathom socket]

I know, but I need to drive in those emissions zones

[charred depot]

yeah :/

[fathom socket]

also I drove like once in london

and It was unique experience

[charred depot]

May have to go there soon, dreading it and I live in this country

[fathom socket]

someone drunk guys were fighting under the pub and one guy decided it's gonna be a great idea to push the other guy under my Lorry

[charred depot]

british people

[stoic ledge]

Bri'ish

[vocal mural]

Get a 🏍️, no environmental zones issues and toll exempt or reduced

[fathom socket]

but I need a license for that and it's not a good for long distances

I would get a electric one if I can move out to Switzerland to just drive locally

[vocal mural]

New Honda CB125F have a fuel economy of 66km/l or 120mpg

[fathom socket]

but I need a car to move out

[vocal mural]

There are se good long disctance motorcycles

[fathom socket]

but I mean 20+ hours of driving

but I stil need a license

and a lot of things to pack

If you delete the drain plug, it is lifetime sealed and should last forever" Former Ford PTU engineer

[severe mantle]

Nothing quite like shiney new rotors. I’m excited to get these installed.

[charred depot]

:^|

whats the link between alfa and saab ebay

[gray lake]

for some reason the alfab that james may made comes to mind but idk what happens

happened*

[timber oar]

Them some nice rotors

[fathom socket]

This opel costed like 170 euros

Sadly it's my cousins

[obtuse kelp]

brrrrrrrrrrrrr

[clear ether]

mockup of the infinity mirror tail lights I'm designing for my car (not my car, just had similar tail lights although I will clean it up a bit)

WIP light testing - no acrylic cut yet as I don't have easy access to a band saw and the heated wire I have isn't long enough (may just modify that) It is just running off an ESP32 running WLED which I'll configure for various inputs for brake light stages - the design is modular and serviceable, and weather proof. Grooves inside to line up lenses/prevent rotation, channel up top for cable run, inner tray to hold lenses and such in place with ridges.

crappy test print for housing.

[stiff burrow]

how

[charred depot]

pretty common for private sale of old nasty cars which have an MOT for a year and will do you fine for that amount of time

can get some good stuff but often ver rusty

[late creek]

You should use addressable leds so you can do a startup animation like this

[clear ether]

ah should have specified they are - I even have ideas to use reactive variables in the code/animations if I go my own route.

WLED is a custom addressable led program that is open source, allows me to use triggers to action for profiles of animations/profile use

but the brightness on these programmable RGB strips is enough to be seen from far away (already tested that)

(also if that is your car that is nice btw)

[late creek]

This sounds like an amazing project! Would love to see a guide when it’s done!

[late creek]

Thanks! It’s my first nice car and I’ve been really happy with it so far.

[clear ether]

I’ve got a bit on an explanation for it somewhere on my site for the idea, but basically if you have a library to manager variables, you can then use the variables from other boards/triggers in user definable “animation blocks” so to speak, because you have dynamic variable access suddenly on a statically typed language

[clear ether]

Also that’s a nice car! Do you do your own engine work? That’s the only more annoying thing I’ve heard about BMW is that can be a pain - although I haven’t read on newer ones yet

[clear ether]

(I’m assuming most lights are powered by arduino or similar c++ based things - other languages don’t always have these limitations)

[late creek]

I don’t anymore. I’m too busy to be able to do my own work on cars nowadays. The 2013+ 3 series are pretty reliable as long as you keep up with basic maintenance luckily.

[clear ether]

True - if maintained the bmw will outlast the heat death of the universe

Much like my moms 1998 Toyota Corolla

(Although I know which one I’d prefer )

[late creek]

It’s got a catless down pipe and bigger fmic and makes around 380 whp. Definitely hope this lasts as long as possible as my last car (WRX) blew a headgasket 2 months after I got it 😂

[late creek]

I wonder if python would be a good fit since it’s popular in the “hacking” community. Not sure about compatibility though.

[clear ether]

Someday I’ll get something with more power in it - might run an e85 mix on my Mazda speed 6 before then just for fun

[clear ether]

Yeah I just had the solution using the tech I was into at the time

It’s part of a larger plan of mine for a modular embedded platform

[late creek]

E85 is definitely fun. I need to upgrade my hpfp to run it and get a flex fuel kit though. Mazdaspeed6s are definitely no slouch! I wanted one for a while but never could find one near me.

[clear ether]

Yeah it’s my winter car and on E85 and a few basic upgrade I think 400hp is easy enough without blowing the engine. Just gotta clean fuel pump regularly to avoid the “Black Death” issue they had on E85.

I love it! Great sleeper build because no one expects it to do what it can with that AWD launch. Plus turbos are tons of fun (although I do prefer driving the 350z)

I literally bought mine on eBay with like 62k miles only mod it had is a blow off valve that I have found so far. (Fuel pump internals might be upgraded). However, it was on basically the end of Florida so I flew down and drove it home in 3 days. Hindsight, I’d have shipped it but I wanted to check it out personally before sinking in money.

It’s basically the same as wrx Sti but no one wants to race me all the time

Let me see if I can find pictures of the headlights though because those are sick like Bugatti style ones

The speed 6 with the Bugatti style headlights - has the sequential/animated turn of all the lights too for the turn signal (I did not make these I just found them and thought they looked sick)

(I’ve since removed all badging and have a jdm style front filler thing instead of the M in the grill so it looks sleeker)

[sweet token]

those look sick how much did they cost you

[viral raptor]

My catalytic converter decided to off itself, can't wait to get that fixed...

[viscid atlas]

I should get LED headlights and taillights for my 911

[late creek]

Those headlights look amazing!

[late creek]

Definitely, the newer Porsche headlights look really cool with the 4 leds.

[viscid atlas]

@late creek idk if they fit on the 997.1

[late creek]

I’d be curious if there aren’t aftermarket ones that are a similar style though.

[viscid atlas]

Idk

[clear ether]

I think less than $300 - I may have to weather proof them better eventually but for now they have been going great for 6+ months

[timber oar]

Hell yeah a Ducati

[desert rune]

i got a 2013 VW polo 1.2L and recently the AC compressor stopped working and it's costing me like $260 to fix it. is that a fair deal?

[vocal mural]

Did you check like fuses or liquid etc on your own?

[haughty ridge]

It's not expensive, it is doable yourself but you'd need a lot of specialist tools.

And the knowledge on how much Freon(Gas) you have to put in the system and which one. But like Migo said, first check the fuses and stuff. If there is not enough gas in your system you might have another problem, and your compressor might be fine.

[stoic ledge]

260 is a fair price I'd say

[fathom socket]

does this look bad?

[vocal mural]

In the EU it is impossible to do it yourself filling R134a or R1234yf unless you have certification to handle coolants because of environmental rules

[haughty ridge]

Car garages don’t need that certificate, my dad has worked for 30 years in HVAC and I have a couple of years experience in the field

And most cars nowadays don’t use R134a.

And honestly, soooo many people don’t have the right certificates and still work with coolants. There should be way better policing of the rules.

[stoic ledge]

Mine has R134a

[haughty ridge]

Mine too, so luckily I can fix it myself with the help of my dad. That stuff is expensive tho

[vocal mural]

The switch from r134a to R1234yf is around 2009 i think

[haughty ridge]

I drive an A-class from 2000, so don’t know when the switch was

[vocal mural]

A good replacement for r134a is propane (in performance, not in safety)

[haughty ridge]

There are some other replacements, but each has it’s downsides and benefits

[lucid karma]

In America it’s newer than that, it’s like 2013-2015 that it actually started to become common use, from my personal experience anyway

My waterneck on the daily exploded yesterday. 30 years of heat cycling will do that I guess lol.

It was hilarious I heard a big WHOOOSH and a comically large steam cloud came out from under my hood. Thankfully I was sitting still

[stoic ledge]

Yeah in Europe is only forbidden since 2018, so up till that point many cars were still being sold with R134a, especially on car models which were already in production when the transition began

Newly introduced models probably got R1234yf

[lucid karma]

Exactly, costs the company money to redesign a compressor they won’t do it until they have to

[timber oar]

I didn't even know they moved away from r134a

[fathom socket]

Is it weird to like your truck too much when you had it for 10 years lol ?

I'm trying to hit 480k at 479.890

[civic spoke]

That's either two hours of driving. Or a month of repairs.

[stiff burrow]

what bmw is this?

[fathom socket]

I fixed them lol @civic spoke

[civic spoke]

Last generation 3/4 series?

[fathom socket]

Got a garage for that so I was thinking if my engine blows up I was gonna ask my friend to engine swap it

Like a LS engine

[civic spoke]

Only worth it if the chassis' decent.

Or sentimental reasons.

[fathom socket]

Yeah

[late creek]

It’s a 2015 335i

[stiff burrow]

nice

[zinc talon]

I have a car! 2015 Subaru Forester 2.5i

[fathom socket]

I bet you will have a good time in the snow with all wheel drive :)

And also is this car squatting or it is very tired

The front is normal but the back must be carrying oversized people

[fathom socket]

I liked how two cars open there trunks after crashing

[vocal mural]

Because of 'environmental' issues

[timber oar]

Oh yeah that's usually what it is for with refrigerant

[tiny edge]

saw a neat VW bug the other day

[carmine summit]

Holy

[edgy crescent]

nnnng

radiator on my tribeca is fucked. Very relieved it wasn't the head gasket

[fathom socket]

I'm a peugeot owner

[stoic ledge]

307 SW?

[fathom socket]

Yep

[stoic ledge]

The 1.6 one or the 2.0 one?

[fathom socket]

2.0

And its slow compared to my 3 banger focus

[stoic ledge]

Probably heavier

[fathom socket]

Much heavier

It feels super heavy

[stoic ledge]

Much safer

[fathom socket]

But for 1300eur

Ita not that bad

Went to mechanic

Only needs front stabilizer link

[stoic ledge]

[fathom socket]

And someone keyed this car

But whatever. It was cheaper than the 1.6 one

[stoic ledge]

You'll pay the difference back in fuel costs

No worries

😛

[fathom socket]

My Ford just drinks 2 liters more of petrol

[stoic ledge]

oof

[fathom socket]

My first instinct was to get rid of the stock radio

[stoic ledge]

We had it with the 5 disc CD changer

But yeah it's just standard 1/2-DIN, you can install both if you want

[fathom socket]

what's a cd?

honestly I don't use CDs and it has no aux in

[stoic ledge]

I still use MP3 CDs 😎

[fathom socket]

I just shoved the crappy radio I had in my focus

need to make a new one

or buy new one

[tiny edge]

saw an HKS test car today too

and an RX-7 with an engine bay so clean you could eat off of it

[fathom socket]

1984 Dodge Daytona Turbo Z

[flint sable]

We recently sold one of the newer generations

[lucid token]

When a videogame car looks more realistic than a literal picture of my garage

[fathom socket]

They look about the same

[viral raptor]

Damn it now I want to play more forza but I'm stuck at work

[warm sparrow]

but you corvette is better 😉

[fluid sphinx]

[stiff burrow]

i think its the lighting, if you took a picture of your car in the sunshine it would look more realistic than the screenshot

[wanton brook]

Holy shit, I've been looking for this for years

When I was in a Harrier Squadron I found some blueprints for the AV-8B Harrier. Have no idea why we had them, but I snuck this one out. It's marked as being a reproduction one half size of the original as well

[charred depot]

Bombardier train wiring diagrams kept under tighter security.

[stiff burrow]

That’s awesome

[charred depot]

bigi

[cursive hazel]

Nice

[solemn inlet]

1:01 mark is the meanest TB I've heard

[vocal mural]

Rare number plates, where is it from?

[charred depot]

Those are Jersey plates

[viscid atlas]

Vw bug

[charred depot]

Parking space bait

[viscid atlas]

Lul

[charred depot]

Malding when I finally found a parking lot with a smart car all the way in which I thought was a empty space :^(

[viscid atlas]

Smart car in the wild pog

[charred depot]

Considered getting one to farm no claims bonus

So cheap to insure

[viscid atlas]

Lol

[fathom socket]

French

[viscid atlas]

Oui oui

Baguette

[fathom socket]

Need new radio tho

[azure stratus]

yes

[viscid atlas]

Same

My sound system no worky and im angy

[fathom socket]

the stock one is only useless because it accepts cds

and has broken antenna

and the one I took from my old ford fell apart and it's held by tape just to work now

[azure stratus]

I wish I could drive a car😭

[fathom socket]

I mean you can, but you shouldn't

[azure stratus]

well yeah

I mean Im in qatar

😏

[fathom socket]

Dutch

also look at me speeding in my truck

[stoic ledge]

Looks like you're going Forza Horizon Cross-Country

[viscid atlas]

@fathom socket slow

[rich frigate]

I bought a Ford transit van in May to travel in over the summer, I'm listing it for sale now and I find out its worth $15,000 more than I paid lmao the market is crazy

[charred depot]

When people are begging for a 90s LDV pilot you know its fucked

[placid imp]

them toes tho 🤤

[solemn inlet]

LDV have a diesel making 160Kw / 500Nm out of a small Bi-turbo

I would be surprised how long that shitheap will last

[charred depot]

My friend has a non turbo diesel one

making like 60hp

reaching 85mph on a steep downhill is an achievement

uphill merge roads 💀

It was going to get a 1.9 turbo diesel from a Citroen BX but someone offered good money for the engine

[stiff burrow]

Lol

Should I buy antlers and a Rudolph nose for my car 🤔

[stoic ledge]

God no

[fathom socket]

what the F is that?

[hardy spire]

thats called a magic roundabout! 🙂

[charred depot]

imagine if the road markings wore away like most roads in the UK

[stiff burrow]

Where is this so I know to never go there

[eager grove]

Think that's Milton Keynes

even if it ain't

[fathom socket]

me at Oxford

[eager grove]

if that looks like hell to you

don't go to Milton Keynes

also if it looks fine

don't go to Milton Keynes

(in England)

[charred depot]

Was there to pick up some train parts then ofskies

[fathom socket]

I'm trying to find a new headunit for my car and everything is so expensive used

[charred depot]

I can say the people in Milton Keynes suck because the people sent the wrong stuff so many times that they sent me to collect the stuff myself

any scrapyard near you

[fathom socket]

they don't have any

everyone takes them out

[charred depot]

Are you looking for the peugeot one

[fathom socket]

no

[charred depot]

suprised you cant find a standard sized one then

[fathom socket]

I'm looking for aftermarket bluetooth one

the puegeot one does not even have Aux in

and Radio doesn't work

I can only listen to slayer that is stuck inside

everyone sells only cd radios

[pearl tiger]

my radio in fiat had CD/FM-AM

and cd wasnt mp3

I installed singledin on 2din adapter faceplate

[charred depot]

could ditch the shitbox life and just do normie monthly payments on a car :^ |

[timber oar]

That is such a weird roundabout

[bitter compass]

British crap they call a roundabout

Europe makes fun of the us not understanding roundabouts, meanwhile the English are like: that is how complicated the us thinks roundabouts are lets build it like that.

[stoic ledge]

@vocal mural 50% of the Top 10 best selling cars in Europe last month are Stellantis... what's your opinion on that? 😛

[fathom socket]

ford focus?

I rarely see them.

Everyone buys mondeos here

[eager grove]

Way more focuses than mondeos in the UK

I think it's more surprsing that Renault have 30% of the top 10

[grim timber]

What’s a good starter car to do up for like 10-15k Aud

[eager grove]

Golf Alltrack

[vocal mural]

Peugeot 2008 dominates the market? I thought it was Peugeot 107/Citroen C1/Toyota Aygo and VW Up/Seat Mii/Škoda Citigo trio.

[stoic ledge]

Lol that was 10 years ago 😛 And also not really in Europe, 🇳🇱 market isn't really representative of European market 😉

50% Stellantis
30% Renault
10% Ford
10% VAG

Also yeah I think the Focus sells way better than the Mondeo nowadays

[eager grove]

Not really surprising, the 2nd size (fiesta, polo) have long been at the tops of the charts over the teeny tiny ones

and the 2008 is vaguely pretending to be an SUV, which is hyper popular too

The Captur and T-Roc are that exact same size class too

[frigid anchor]

its basically an intersection with a pole in the middle

meanwhile india

https://tenor.com/view/rbd-celestial-joy-ride-roadtrip-gif-13987307

[frigid anchor]

hyundai veloster is good but why is it sooo underrated

[eager grove]

underrated how?

[frigid anchor]

i feel like it is

[eager grove]

Enthusiasts love it, it gets rave reviews on YouTube and car mags and sells well

[frigid anchor]

idk why but all my friends ignore it

[dense shard]

Polarizing style

And not quite as functional as a traditional hatchback

Nice car tho

[edgy quiver]

Found the best car today

The LTT jeep

[scenic magnet]

Lol

[bitter compass]

Fiat panda masterrace

[stoic ledge]

Probably mostly sold in Italy

[pearl tiger]

fiat stilo masterrace

[ocean sun]

Fastback miata!

[bitter compass]

It is brilliant

Especially 4x4

[stoic ledge]

Yeah

I think they also sold the "4x4" with just FWD as City Cross

[fathom socket]

Its more like a parent roundabout that recursively calls 5 mini roundabouts

[fathom socket]

They might aswell call it the 8x8 to make it sound coolier

[charred depot]

hehe pishy pishy power steering fluid

Fluid leak, but not excessive slight leak at power steering rack. (8.4.1 (a) (i))

Should be getting an OG9-3 rack with a Volvo electric pump although im pretty sure my car has a 70 amp alternator so that needs changed to the 130

[stiff burrow]

sheesh

[frigid anchor]

Looks soooooooooo sick

[stiff burrow]

Thank you

[bitter compass]

Tell that vw with their lifted cross up, I'd liked to see something similar to the panda 4x4, all we got is a "SUVs" which are actually just fwd lifted normal cars are popular here is the same but with an up

Such offroad such wow

[stoic ledge]

Yeah I think Fiat is the only one offering actual 4x4 in the segment

New Aygo is now also the Aygo Cross or Aygo X with the X pronounced as Cross, but it's still the regular FWD + 1.0

Same what Opel also did with the Karl Rocks, Picanto with the R-Cross I think it was? All just FWD

Fiat is the only one with actual 4x4

But what I meant was, when you saw it previously you knew instantaneous the owner was a bad-ass and had the actual 4x4 version, now it might just as well be the plebian 4x2 version 😛

[bitter compass]

Since i know i gonna have to replace my shitbox within something like 2 years i already got a few cars in mind and damn panda 4x4 would be one of the i consider it because I just like it xD

[stoic ledge]

Can't blame you

[bitter compass]

I mean it sounds way cooler than cars that would actually be the smart option like octavia the 1.6l hybrid one

[gusty ravine]

that should not exist

[eager grove]

A3 allroad is apparently coming, which is interesting

Not sure what the market is, but there apparently is one. Who is buying one of those over a Q3 or an A3?

I say that as a fan of lifted wagons

I don't even know what the difference between a subcompact CUV and a lifted hatchback even is

[bitter compass]

A3 quattro always existed

[eager grove]

Yes I know

[stoic ledge]

Octavia 1.6 Hybrid? 🤔

[stoic ledge]

It is/was a one-off for promotional purposes

[gusty ravine]

still

[stoic ledge]

Allroad = raised a bit + added plastics 😛