cars

[rich frigate]

where the volvo guys at

[charred depot]

wish I had a rear cam

[vocal mural]

Did you buy that Peugeot 305?

[charred depot]

yep

theres me being akward in the background with me saab

[stoic ledge]

I love it

[stoic ledge]

850R

[rich frigate]

my baby

[stoic ledge]

Nice 5-cyl

• wagons are 👌

I don't have a Volvo but my brother does (the white one is mine)

Great car

No 5-cyl tho

[mortal lake]

european cars

[stoic ledge]

[mortal lake]

japanese cars or tesla

no cap

[stoic ledge]

Yikes Tesla

[rich frigate]

the 5 cylinder slaps I'm at 300k miles so far i'll go another 300k

[mortal lake]

tesla has shit interior quality yes

but the capability, not only speedwise but comfort and techwise is 😍

[stoic ledge]

It's a Volvo, so probably

[mortal lake]

i think it's a worthy tradeoff to have not seamless interior corners for a freaking ipad as your center console

[stoic ledge]

I'm waiting for the Lucid Air, not that I can afford it but still

[mortal lake]

i am in the process of getting my license

i have my learners and ive driven about 150 hours

[stoic ledge]

[charred depot]

I dont like teslas but I guess there is few modern cars I like

I guess theres plenty im okay with but teslas arent in that group

I see it as them just struggling to find things to innovate on so as an example for tesla hm yes what can we change ah yeah fuck a steering wheel slap this yoke in there and screw those stupid intuitive stalks get in with these touch buttons hell yeaaaah

fart sounds via canbus technologyTM patent pending

[fathom socket]

Vroom.

[stiff burrow]

tesla 🤮

[stiff burrow]

how many hours do you need for your full license

[mortal lake]

idk

enough till ur good

no limit

[civic girder]

Tesla is complete trash

overhyped scrap metal

[charred depot]

one of the front brake lines on the poojo had molegrips on it heh

hopefully the front calipers are saveable as will save me £100 or so

windscreen has some weird delamination but may still pass

[stiff burrow]

💯

[stoic ledge]

🅱️ased

[fathom socket]

I started driving when I was 7 years old and got my license at 16 on my birthday and drove 7 states with my truck I had for many years. @mortal lake

You should be able to come back 2 months to take drivers test and pass easily not sure about other countries

[mortal lake]

nice

[fathom socket]

I drove my truck to Arizona and back home at Virginia on Thursday and back on Friday evening. I need to try other places like Canada next summer vacation to camp there.

I just love traveling so much

[mortal lake]

chevy is pretty reliable if you're driving across states

i always thought american car manufacturers (besides tesla) sucked

[stiff burrow]

ive driven various gm cars and none of them have had serious problems aside from a hybrid tahoe that had issues with the auto stop

it would literally cut off and then not start from anywhere between 5 minutes and a few hours

not good lol

[mortal lake]

i like german or japanese car makers

toyota, honda etc. slap hard

[rich frigate]

are you talking about like the 2012ish tahoe hybrid those things were awful

[stiff burrow]

i have family that works for gm so i get that employee discount 💸

otherwise id probably be driving a ford or a subaru

lel

[mortal lake]

subaru is awesome

[stiff burrow]

i think it was an 07 or 08

[mortal lake]

for my first car im aiming for a subaru or a toyota

if im extra poor ill get a civic

[stiff burrow]

i considered a wrx for my new car a few months ago but i decided on a ct4v cus employee discount

lolol

[rich frigate]

wrx is overrated

[stiff burrow]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mortal lake]

how much was employee discount that it convinced you to switch brands

12% +

[stiff burrow]

yeah

it was around that

plus i think my dad would have disowned me if i bought a wrx lmao

where i live EVERYBODY drives an american car, like 80+% of cars are american

[mortal lake]

yikes

[stiff burrow]

lmao

[mortal lake]

my father had an old 06 caravan he used to drive

it was army green and started failing around 2015 - 2016

granted he bought it in 2011 or so

[stiff burrow]

where i live is literally the heart of the american auto industry. chrysler, gm and ford headquarters are all a short drive away

[mortal lake]

detroit?

[stiff burrow]

yea

metro area

[mortal lake]

is detroit still an american city or has it been designated a rogue state

not yet i hope haha

[stiff burrow]

???

what

[mortal lake]

yknow

detroit and how you cant have anything in detroit

private police forces n shieet

[stiff burrow]

downtown/midtown/corktown are pretty good, honestly the whole metro area aside from pontiac and 5-8 mile is not bad

[mortal lake]

im from vancouver so i wouldnt know

guess i watch too many youtube videos

[stiff burrow]

i drove downtown yesterday and its a LOT better than it was 10-15 years ago

there are actually people walking on the streets

[mortal lake]

no longer a warzone poggers!!!!

arent there 1 dollar houses in detroit

if shit hits the fan im moving to detroit

[stiff burrow]

people get caught up in the "lol urban decay take a picture of the 8 mile sign lol eiminem movie!!" hype and they dont realize detroit is getting way better

aside from the outer city suburbs

but we dont talk about that

[mortal lake]

you ever consider moving

[stiff burrow]

nah

i like it here

[mortal lake]

nice

[stiff burrow]

i dont live IN the city tho

[mortal lake]

live there your whole life?

[stiff burrow]

i live in a suburb

yea

[mortal lake]

nice!

[stiff burrow]

only place i would move to is NYC or west coast really

maybe florida

[mortal lake]

florida sounds nice but i dont like hot weather

nyc sounds really nice but it's a little overpopulated for me

[stiff burrow]

michigan has a lot of natural beauty too, like we are on the coast of 5 huge lakes

[mortal lake]

• i heard new yorkers are assholes

[stiff burrow]

lol

[mortal lake]

ive never really cared about natural beauty tbh

[stiff burrow]

i went there when i was like 5, cant comment

thats important to me, i like to be outside

[mortal lake]

im not a "look at the trees and lakes" kind of guy

nice

i like to be outside too but idrc if its in a forest or walking downtown

when my family went to alaska for vacation they went to see icebergs and i was watching movies in my room lol

[stiff burrow]

lol

[mortal lake]

i probably finished off half the marvel franchise in that room

[stiff burrow]

[mortal lake]

weirdchamp

isnt michigan like

super anti oil or whatever

[stiff burrow]

idrk tbh

[stiff burrow]

mmm suburban

[fathom socket]

Here's some new ones

[dense shard]

There are free houses in Japan.

They're great if you don't mind clapped out deathtraps without services.

[fathom socket]

Did suburban used the same engines of the 1500 and 2500s ?

I think they do because of the tow hitches

[dense shard]

The 5.3 and the 6.2 can both tow.

Or was it the 6.0 back then.

[fathom socket]

The Ford Excursion is a F250 or F350 truck but an SUV type

All 3 of them I believe the engines for suburbans

6.2 sounds like a Duramax diesel engine

[dense shard]

6.2 is the big engine for the smaller trucks.

5.3 is the standard engine for GM trucks.

And then we have the 3.0 inline 6 diesel.

ah here we go. The biggest engine GM has on offer is 6.6 liters for gas and diesel, and that's for the heavy duty trucks.

Ford's sizes are a bit different. Their heavy duty offering consists of 7.3 V8 gas engine, 6.7 V8 diesel, and I think they still have the 6.2 from a while ago.

[vocal mural]

Come to Europe my friend, I will take you from Torino in Italy to Abisko in Sweden, we will be driving over Mont Blanc in Italy and France, Nurburgring in Germany, Köln in Germany, Posbank in the Netherlands, Rendsburger Hochbrucke in Germany, Great Belt and Oresund bridge in Denmark, Svinesund bridge in Sweden and finally Hardanger bridge in Norway

[stiff burrow]

The Duramax V8 is a 6.6

[civic spoke]

Lots of American cars are built in Michigan.

[carmine summit]

can confirm I'm at school right across the border

I could probably walk to Chrysler's Windsor assembly plant from here

or Ford's engine plant, though it's a little farther

[stiff burrow]

I think that’s sales numbers

But yes

[stiff burrow]

My car was built at Lansing Grand River 😂

There’s also the factory in hamtramck

[civic spoke]

That's just the GMC products.

Ford also has a bunch of assembly plants in that state.

[stiff burrow]

I’ve been on a tour of the one in Dearborn

[civic spoke]

Only F-150 being made there. According to Wikipedia.

[carmine summit]

my uncle used to be an engineer at Ford lol, I think he's the reason I'm at school for automotive product design

[carmine summit]

Coyote V8s and 7.3s are built here in Windsor, just across the border from Detroit

[stiff burrow]

Yeah, I went there like 10 years ago lol, I wanted to see the new (at the time) raptor

[carmine summit]

when people talk about "351 Windsors" or "351 Clevelands" they're talking about basically the same engine, but referring to where it was built. Windsor engine plant or Cleveland lol

there's actually 2 engine plants here but they're in the same spot I think

one opened in 1923 and is building the 7.3 V8s, one opened in 1981 and is building the Coyote 5.0l V8s

i might wind up working there next summer for a co-op lol, idk yet

[stiff burrow]

I should go back to the Henry Ford museum

That’s a cool place

[frigid anchor]

ah ok thx

oh wow , where do you live

[haughty ridge]

The Netherlands, it's 2 euro/litre here

[frigid anchor]

thats expensive

[haughty ridge]

Yup, luckily my car doesn't use that much so I don't have to fill it up very often

[frigid anchor]

imagine having a bugati with 1.5 km/L mileage

[haughty ridge]

I'd have to sell both my kidneys to afford the fuel for that

[frigid anchor]

i usually get 16 km/L so i am good

my father tho thinking of getting a cng

it will give about 40 at highways

[haughty ridge]

I kinda want an electric car, since 95% of my trips are less than 100km total

But I don't have that much money

[frigid anchor]

they are expensive

[haughty ridge]

Yeah, but a full charge is at most a few euro's, compared to 90 euro for a full tank

[frigid anchor]

if there was an electric car with 100 hp and was light weight as compaared to other ev and could atleast reach 150 kmph , while not being expensive , I would love it

[haughty ridge]

I’d drive an nissan leaf or something. If I could choose it would be a Mercedes EQS

But never a Tesla

[frigid anchor]

I would have to sell myself for that

[charred terrace]

just waiting for old fleet car EVs to be sold used

[haughty ridge]

Lol me too, I’m just a student so money is non existing

[charred terrace]

yeah EVs here just dont make sense to buy, especially when the cheapest is over $30k usd

[haughty ridge]

Same here, electric cars are expensive. But the government wants everyone to buy electric

[charred terrace]

here the government seems to give zero shit about EVs

(we're trying to pass a law similar to the gas tax for EVs)

[frigid anchor]

our country almost ran out of coal as per news

[haughty ridge]

It's a bit weird here, we have to cut our CO2 emissions, but we're not willing to build Windmills, nuclear powerplants. We keep importing gas from Russia, while we have loads ourselves in the ground.

And if a lot more people would drive electric, our electric grid would fail

[stoic ledge]

If you drive a Bugatti you probably don't really care about the fuel prices 😛

[bitter compass]

But you pay taxes on fuel thats whats bugging a Bugatti driver 👀

[charred depot]

Stick my car in a garage for 5 or so years and it will be mot and tax exempt

Verynice

[bitter compass]

2€/L to an oil company yes,
1€ to an oil company and 1€ to the government hell na

[charred depot]

Just get an old diesel and run it on McDonalds waste

[bitter compass]

And tbh, people who drive a Bugatti probably don't drive it that often that furl consumption would matter

[vocal mural]

Do someone know what car is in front of me?

[carmine summit]

toyota celica

[charred depot]

Cant wait for this situation in my 50hp Peugeot 305

Little na idi that couldnt

[warm sparrow]

**riced toyota celica

look at those "exhausts"

[winter plinth]

tesla cool

okay have a good day

[stiff burrow]

what's really cool is when you crash and die because some idiot decided to put the speedometer on the center screen instead of a gauge cluster screen or heads up display

[burnt orchid]

whats really cool is olds cutlass 455

[stiff burrow]

yes

I don’t like electric cars in general, mostly because of the electric part. I hate the idea that whenever you want to go somewhere far away, you have to stop every hour to make it to the next charger. So stupid. My car “charges” in 5 minutes and gets double the range of an electric car, plus there are thousands of gas stations across the country.

[warm sparrow]

i like when it does "vrrrr ratatatat stututu boom boom"

[stiff burrow]

Indeed

[stoic ledge]

https://youtu.be/rfRAWBpH9W0

I'd drive it

[stiff burrow]

I wish they offered this with AWD

That’s the main reason I got the normal V lol

[stoic ledge]

I wish they offered it at all

I'd go 6-cyl RWD > 4-cyl AWD personally, but I understand otherwise

[civic spoke]

Straight six is life.

[stiff burrow]

I got snow, slush and ice for half the year. It’s not worth the compromises

[mortal lake]

is the cadillac blackwing worth it though

sure it's a cool car but 100k worth is a stretch imo

you can get a r35 for that price

or an r8

[stiff burrow]

Does the r35 have a manual transmission

[mortal lake]

i think it has paddles

[stiff burrow]

Not the same at all

[mortal lake]

manual sucks anyways, it's less efficient and makes your car slower

• more work

[stiff burrow]

I would buy the blackwing if I lived in a place where I could have a RWD car the whole year

BRO

Oh my god

[mortal lake]

[haughty ridge]

But it's more fun to drive a manual, lol

[stiff burrow]

Have fun driving your emotionless Tesla

[mortal lake]

yo i care about 0-60 times not needing to stick shift

anyways im just messing around

i like manuals too

[stiff burrow]

And is efficiency really that important when you’re buying a car with a twin turbo v6 or supercharged v8

[haughty ridge]

I don't really care that much about 0-60, since I'm not racing on the highway

[stiff burrow]

Same

My car is fun with an auto but it would be way more fun with a manual

[mortal lake]

doesnt manual suck when ur on long roadtrips

[haughty ridge]

The only time I'd really want a automatic is in still standing traffic, or driving in a busy city

[mortal lake]

constant shifting

dont ur arms get fatigued

[haughty ridge]

Not if you're on a highway that isn't really busy

[mortal lake]

idk then maybe im dumb

[stiff burrow]

No cus you just leave it in 6 lol

[haughty ridge]

And if you're standing still, just don't put it in gear and you can take your foot of the clutch

[mortal lake]

clutch is just a third brake pedal right

in case the first one doesnt work

[haughty ridge]

Lol

Yeah, and the R is for racemode on your gearshifter

[mortal lake]

true

i love racemode

[charred depot]

My peugeot has no brakes. You turn the engine off and lift the clutch to stop

[mortal lake]

they always have racemode in red too to make sure you know its got an extra hard launch

[mortal lake]

safety hazard

[charred depot]

Was on pwivate pwoperty

[civic spoke]

Fun fact. My truck has four reverse gears.

[mortal lake]

4 racemodes

[haughty ridge]

Should be fine, just put a sticker on the back saying keep distance.

[charred depot]

Someone honked at it while it was being towed for no using the indicator i think

Must be dense not to realise its being towed

[haughty ridge]

Lol, thinking is hard sometimes

[mortal lake]

car horns should be removed and declared illegal

everytime someone honks at me i get an enraging sense of vengeance

i have my learners sign up n shieet too

[remote ridge]

I think some places it's illegal to not have a horn

[charred depot]

Single track roads make them useful

[haughty ridge]

I've only got honked at once, it was during one of my first driving lessons

[charred depot]

Bep bep before you enter a windy bit

[remote ridge]

At night through really curvy roads I just constantly flash my high beams if it's near a residential area

[stiff burrow]

Bruh

How else are you going to alert drivers of something

[mortal lake]

by break checking them

[charred depot]

The primary use of the horn these days is "fuck you pal"

[mortal lake]

true

[charred depot]

I like the stinky fingy

[mortal lake]

i dont road rage at other people

i do it secretly in my head

yknow in case i accidently go off on a member of the italian mob or some shit

[charred depot]

I dont either really just mild malding

Bep or stinky fingy and move on

[mortal lake]

i dont do any of those even

some maniacs out there who will attempt to commit homicide when you beep at them

[stiff burrow]

Middle finger is a great way to get yourself shot

[charred depot]

I just have a disdain for people who dont indicate at roundabouts

[mortal lake]

yah so you have to secretly curse out their bloodline in your head

[stiff burrow]

The only time I use my horn is when somebody doesn’t see me or they are not paying attention

[charred depot]

Leave it for 6 years and i can drive it

[haughty ridge]

That's a long time

[charred depot]

Bah

Becomes tax and mot exempt then

Parked around 1995 and runs fine today

XUD op

Well not overpowered it has no power. But very reliable

[stiff burrow]

why not just drive it

[charred depot]

Ill get mega beaned

About as illegal as it gets

Having its wheels on the public road was a pretty big risk too

[mortal lake]

SHEEEEEESH

[charred depot]

if we were caught I think my friend could have potentially been looking at a ban

[burnt orchid]

sus car

[stoic ledge]

Yeah so tiring, putting it in top gear and leaving it there for multiple hours

[stoic ledge]

Any car here will fail inspection if the horn isn't working

[charred depot]

my saab has a totally fucked clutch cable and its bareable in stop and go traffic

[stoic ledge]

Just stall it every time

[charred depot]

stalling is like a gunshot with these motor mounts

good for you ig

[civic spoke]

I've stalled a truck with an automatic.

[stiff burrow]

how

[civic spoke]

Because they are only automatic in the sense that it changes gears by itself.

They are automated manuals.

[stiff burrow]

were you towing something

[civic spoke]

So the clutch overheated and everything when I tried to get out from somewhere.

Nope.

[stiff burrow]

oh

[civic spoke]

28 tonnes, give or take. With a 350 hp engine.

[stiff burrow]

the fact that the clutch is controlled by the computer basically prevents any possibility to stall in most cases

[charred depot]

While rolling the poojo down my driveway I jumped in and couldnt get it into first. Quality french gearbox.

panicked and threw it down into fourth

[stiff burrow]

ah yes

quality french engineering

almost as bad as british engineering

[charred depot]

i see your point and chose to disregard it

apparently its a common issue for the shifter to wear quite quickly and become extremely annoying to use

[stoic ledge]

It still happens like once a year/rvery 2 years or something for me

[charred depot]

handbrake stuck on from leaving it parked for too long or in third instead of first

saab shifters mok but the knob keeps coming unglued

[vocal mural]

This is how i want to see a Peugeot (Scrapped)

[charred depot]

scrapping is cringe

[stoic ledge]

Even scrapped it's above a VW

[vocal mural]

Above a white Citroën Berlingo

Look close enough

[stoic ledge]

Seat Arosa no?

(I first thought it was on top of the blue/green Polo in front of it lol)

[civic spoke]

Speaking of. There is half a Golf R at the place I currently park the truck.

[stoic ledge]

Half a Golf R

[civic spoke]

The back half.

[warm sparrow]

that 505 😄

[stiff burrow]

This is where all Stellantis products belong

[fathom socket]

Sometimes I feel sad to see crs that are much better condition than mine being junked

Or even classic cars

[sudden pecan]

i like

[warm sparrow]

no

[stiff burrow]

Yes

[haughty ridge]

The only car brand that stellantis owns that I like is Alfa Romeo, but I would never buy one.

[stiff burrow]

Alfa is cool but I wouldn’t buy one

50hp

[charred depot]

this thing will happily run on vegetable oil though which is cool

[solemn inlet]

Idk why people are hating on this. So what if its a Kia Stinger? Sounds good and its fast for its weight. Better than the common ass 2J or LS swap lol

[burnt orchid]

duramax swap it

[solemn inlet]

Now we're talking

All the torque

[high adder]

Nah Cummins all the way

6bt ftw

[fathom socket]

I'm delivering Scania parts with a daf

[vocal mural]

In ETS2?

[fathom socket]

Irl

[vocal mural]

😆

Scania wouldn’t like it😆

[fathom socket]

It seems they dun care

[solemn inlet]

People are swapping those in patrols 600hp / 1000+Nm

[warped hatch]

Speakin facts here twin turbo Cummins

[high adder]

Yup, it’s crazy

[high adder]

Lol

[fathom socket]

I think his tail light is out

[stoic ledge]

Apparently the day of stalling again was today

[frigid anchor]

My father drives at soo low rpm that usually he stalls per week

[stoic ledge]

For me it's usually a very unfortunate set of circumstances

Like today, they changed something on the traffic lights so they're green for just ~3 seconds in-between the regular 30 second green, idk why.

Adding to that, my front wheels (FWD) were just on a white painted line (=slippery) so the wheels spinned

So I reacted to that, can't remember exactly how, but combined it stalled

[pearl tiger]

since i got my license, i never stalled a car.. not even in the driving school

[stoic ledge]

It's not like it happens frequently lol, like I said once every year or 2 years Apparently that day was today

Driving school car was a diesel, good luck stalling that (although I've seen them get stalled plenty of times)

[pearl tiger]

i kinda have a feeling when the engine wanna stall

[stoic ledge]

I think every frequent manual driver has that

[pearl tiger]

so most of european people?

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[charred depot]

rear engine rwd skoda anyone

[burnt orchid]

no

v10 pickup truck>

[fathom socket]

ECOBOOST

[charred depot]

ecoboom

[slow cliff]

EcoBoost garbo

[slow cliff]

Yeah my ford has a 300 striaght 6 with a 10:1 compression and a 58mm turbo and I get 460hp and my 2001 chevy 1500 has a 5.3 vortec Ls and the chevy all.stock and it's a beast of a truck

I get nice low.end torque from that striaght 6

[tiny edge]

saw something interesting this past weekend

also

[brittle niche]

A Huayra BC and a LaFerrari are just INTERESTING!?!?

[night current]

Yeah

[burnt orchid]

no not really

boring supercar dinguses

this is just interesting

this is e🅱️ic

[dense shard]

It's a Suburban

Only the most commonly full size SUV

[modern cloud]

Hey now, the Chevrolet Suburban is a very super car

In size, at least

[dense shard]

Sure, excluding the Yukon, Expedition XL, Navigator XL, and the Excursion

[carmine summit]

I found a green Vanagon, in a city that's mostly American cars because they're built here, while driving my green MK3

What are the odds

[charred depot]

they always use them in places where people will park in the path or even half over them half on the kerb.

[sudden pecan]

could be worse, could be driving a 911

https://cdn.rage.dev/xeEh57Qf0c

[charred depot]

boutta bill the council for some sway bar links

[sudden pecan]

just drive in the middle of the road

[charred depot]

whoever built those has the dumb

most speedbumps are poorly installed though so nothing new

[burnt orchid]

no not really

tahoe is way more common

also if dinguses like honda crv count those things are everywhere

[burnt orchid]

excursion is more super

it was biggest and heaviest production suv of its time i think

[civic girder]

"SUV"

more like a truck with backseats instead of a bed

[brittle niche]

The Excursion was such a massive truck. Heres one for sale in Chicago

https://chicagomotors.com/240511/2001-Ford-Excursion

[carmine summit]

yeah that's what SUVs were initially

technically most of them now are crossovers

[stiff burrow]

Who here likes long SUVs 😌

[burnt orchid]

yes

https://youtu.be/wEQPLfQbxZU

[dense shard]

Same platform, essentially the same vehicle

[burnt orchid]

suburban is longer

[dense shard]

Yes, but same platform, same interior.

Same engine choices

[tiny edge]

fair enough LOL

[carmine summit]

I mean not really, the Tahoe is newer and is completely redesigned

they don't just use the same chassis for every generation of truck

[tiny edge]

BoostAddict, you look familiar

/sound

familiar

[dense shard]

Same platform

GM was too lazy to add independent rear suspension until this generation

[wispy siren]

400s yay i have 2 lel love em all

[burnt orchid]

shid cars

[burnt orchid]

^ much better than those falling apart non road legal shitboxes

segsy supercharger

[hardy osprey]

Meh

Doing a burn out with a high power to weight ratio is nothing

actually drifting on a track takes skills

[burnt orchid]

this is just burnout

[hardy osprey]

nah

[hardy osprey]

He's switching corner

[burnt orchid]

fuqin bumper is falling off

ran into too many walls

[hardy osprey]

that's the nature of drifting

[burnt orchid]

m corvette

better because not import car

[hardy osprey]

all these cars are imported

[burnt orchid]

become american

[hardy osprey]

nah

[burnt orchid]

BingusMW

[burnt orchid]

https://www.thedrive.com/news/35746/1966-buick-gasser-vs-2020-toyota-supra-drag-race-is-fast-furious-reincarnate stupra

[carmine summit]

I mean we're in 5 servers together so it's possible

[tiny edge]

lmao fair enough

[carmine summit]

The suburbans being discussed were GMT400 platform

At that time the Tahoe didn't exist

It sort of did, but only close to the end of the platforms lifetime

the Tahoe was GMT420, Suburban was GMT410 and GMT425 depending on body style

similar, but technically not the same platform

i worry about details too much

[eager grove]

"Full size" is a technical definition in this sense

In the US you have sub-compact crossovers (Trax/Rogue Sport/HRV), compact crossovers (RAV4, CRV etc), midsize SUVs/midsize crossovers (which is everything from Rogues to Telluride/Highlander sized vehicles) and then full size SUV, which by some definitions technically only refers to gigantic body-on-frame SUVs like the Expedition, Suburban, Yukon, Tahoe, but is also sometimes applied to the biggest unibody european vehicles like the BMW X7 and the Mercedes GLS

I don't know where Range Rovers and Discoveries fit into the US classification style as they're the size of full size SUVs but only have 2 rows

Though I think some generations of Ford Expedition offered two row options

[burnt orchid]

explorer was the 2 row option im pretty sure, expedition had 3

[eager grove]

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a35130127/2021-ford-expedition-base-model/

[burnt orchid]

hmn

[eager grove]

They're adding in a two row option, I'm pretty sure they've had one in the past as well

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Expedition

first gen had optional three row seating

[burnt orchid]

eggspedition

[eager grove]

fuck I'd love a giant SUV

[burnt orchid]

ford excursion or a suburban :stonks:

[eager grove]

test drove a 2016 Golf R wagon today

lotta fun

would definitely be big enough for the family and our stuff

but I just want truly enormous amounts of trunk space

[burnt orchid]

suburban

[eager grove]

if only

[burnt orchid]

look at this 🅱️east

look good lowered or lifted

or even stock

e🅱️ic

[mild stone]

I hate this pandemic, my new Mini Cooper I bought was at the mini dealer for 3 weeks because someone got covid and they had to quarantine and couldn’t “work on it”

The best part about it was all it needed was an oil change

[burnt orchid]

mini cooper fit inside suburban

[mild stone]

those suburbans can punt my poor mini like a soccer ball

[stiff burrow]

Good price? https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/cto/d/lake-orion-1997-miata-convertible/7388920343.html

[stiff burrow]

First mistake: you bought a mini

[mild stone]

how dare you

me and my tiny toy car don’t appreciate that

[stiff burrow]

Lol

@burnt orchid I caught one in the wild

[burnt orchid]

e🅱️ic

long boi

that gen seems to be most common

its the only one i see with the exception of this one white gmt400 k2500

[stiff burrow]

The one I see the most is the last gen

2014-2020

I think it’s K2

[burnt orchid]

hn

i have seen like 1 of those i think

a few tahoes of that gen also

[stiff burrow]

I’ve also seen a lot of the newest ones

[burnt orchid]

theres literally a street i ride my bike down to get to hs every day and there are 2 nearly identical light brown/beige gmt800 chevy suburbans

both are at different houses but very close

[fathom socket]

Hi! This is my Mk7 Golf GTE. I drive primarily in electric but also like to zoom zoom :)

[pearl tiger]

nice sans sticker

[burnt orchid]

small dingus car

[burnt orchid]

yes its a small dingus car

golf small

[frigid pagoda]

I wish I never sold my mkII golf

was only the most basic car in the world, and held together with more hope than steel, but it was good honest rust

still, I love my little tiggy now too

[civic girder]

Those trucks are big tho. Not like these cramped ass suvs that are overpriced and low quality

[frigid pagoda]

different horses for different courses. In the US roads are bigger, wider etc. in the UK SUVs are about as big as you should be likely to get without inducing accidents.

occasionally pass those big trucks in the countryside and it's like a wall with wheels

[gray lake]

R u in the deoxide server by any chance

I think I've seen u before

[carmine summit]

yeah but I'm not active

I haven't opened that server in over a year probably lol

[gray lake]

Lol same

[odd talon]

I'd quite like the new VW ID Buzz

[hollow frigate]

Hear me out, 6 wheel mimi cooper

[dense shard]

50% more wheel bearing failures

[rare lagoon]

Ummm...... No.

[dense shard]

It is why modern minis have only 3 cylinders

25% fewer valve failures and 25% reduction in carbon build up on the intake valves

[hollow frigate]

make it a 8 wheeler then

glue two of them together

[vocal mural]

25% less power and fun,

[dense shard]

Same power, more torque.

The power of forced induction.

[flint sable]

[hollow frigate]

the front reminds me of an suv for some reason

it was some car popular from the early 2000s

dunno

[mortal lake]

why dont people rgb their cars

weird thought

like rgb headlights n shieet

[vocal mural]

It is against the law

[mortal lake]

unfortunate

when i get my first car im decking that thing out in rgb

rgb headlights, chroma synced turn signals etc.

[fathom socket]

First police that see them will probably impound that in a heartbeat

[hollow frigate]

yeah

make your car paint rgb

lose the cops while being chased and switch car colors

[fathom socket]

Is that bit on the roof supposed to be like a spoiler or is it to improve the aero of the roof rack

[amber oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/home-alone-when-shes-alone-tesla-jump-im-coming-gif-16164614

[steady silo]

wow

tesla op

[frigid pagoda]

Is that the one that looks like an old camper van, but it's electric? In which case I'm completely on board with you.

[odd talon]

Yeah

[frigid pagoda]

So glad that VW are going ahead with some of their more outlandish new cars like the Buzz. Electric offers a real chance to break the mould.

The only things wrong with the original campers were the terrible lack of power, non-existent crumple zones, zero reliability. Yet still they sold because they were beautiful and offered to fulfill a niche no-one else thought was important.

[ruby fable]

Is there any big reason why?

[civic spoke]

Partly because of it being a distraction. And it's just much nicer for everyone to be able to know which part is forward on a vehicle without thinking.

Imagine if you had red headlights.

[ruby fable]

yeah that's understandable

[solemn inlet]

Actaully decent picture of my rig

[rare lagoon]

My car literally looks like my rocket league car....

The white one is my sister

Sadly it's not a wrx... Just a sport so no engine tune

[rare lagoon]

I see a voaxhoul a Subaru and is that a Honda mx? I can't tell the others

[charred depot]

Skoda Estelle, Vauxhall Chevette, Subaru Leone and a Volvo 360. bike beh

[rare lagoon]

Hey subies are good the'll last forever

[stiff burrow]

do i have something to share with you...
https://www.carid.com/1990-mazda-miata-mx-5-headlights/lumen-7-round-led-rgb-halo-projector-headlights-with-bluetooth-control-543257301.html

[flint sable]

What is the M5?? A grand touring car? A muscle car??? Is there any specific classification?

[civic spoke]

Why do you ask? I personally consider it a sport saloon. That's leaning towards the GT category.

[flint sable]

Just wondering

Oh GT/saloon makes sense

[stiff burrow]

It’s a sport sedan

[burnt orchid]

not a muscle car

muscle car is american

[flint sable]

Fair

[civic spoke]

AMG's with the old 6.2 liter V8's were Euro muscle.

[flint sable]

Oh That makes sense too

[charred depot]

Still got tread innit

[flint sable]

[stiff burrow]

[charred depot]

Honestly probably grips better

[flint sable]

Hydroplanes like crazy

[charred depot]

The compound on mine was so fucked

[flint sable]

We’re getting a new set of winter tires and wheels

[stiff burrow]

All season gang

[fathom socket]

I start to hate daf

There are so many weird decisions

Like the almost useless "table"

[carmine summit]

i live in canada, that isn't an option

well it is, but not really

I make fun of people who use all seasons here

I also see people with all seasons get in accidents in winter

[placid imp]

I live in Canada too. If you don’t have winter tired , good luck with that

[dense shard]

Would be nice if people were responsible.

[last swift]

factual

[last swift]

semislicks

[flint sable]

😎👍

[fathom socket]

looks like a old boat car

[fathom socket]

1975 Chrysler Cordoba

[charred depot]

our snow doesent last very long so we use summer tyres with many incidents

nice to see a tesla ice skating down a hill in glasgow while trying to reverse spinning its tyres backwards.

[charred depot]

im looking at the bridge and im looking at the width of the car

the goal here appears to be a mystery

[civic spoke]

I also got stuck yesterday. But managed to make it out on my own power.

[civic spoke]

It helped that I had 11+ tonnes of material that I was dumping. Which pushed me forward enough to get unstuck.

[burnt orchid]

e🅱️ic

[civic girder]

I hate how trucks are worth so much even if they're a pos

[burnt orchid]

ok but its great

[dense shard]

I bought a running Jeep for less... and it does have 4x4.

condition good

[dark prairie]

false

[burnt orchid]

ur false

[dark prairie]

lol

[burnt orchid]

by defniition ist american

american

@dark prairie

[dark prairie]

true thats where they originated from

but the euros also literally made almost the exact same thing, but with german engineering

[burnt orchid]

knockoff crap muscle cars

[dark prairie]

…

[flint sable]

??

[dark prairie]

did u really just call the E92 M3, RS5, and C63 AMG “knock off crap muscle cars”

[burnt orchid]

terrible

[civic girder]

I mean, you did say they're almost the same thing as euro cars but that makes no sense

the definition of a muscle car is literally a high performance American car lmao

[charred depot]

I wouldnt call german cars muscle cars. way too refined :^)

[burnt orchid]

too lame

[flint sable]

Totally…

[wheat hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-clickbait-thats-bait-gif-13073851

[dense shard]

I wouldn't call anything German a muscle car.

Unless we're talking about early AMGs... the ones that had a big engine and couldn't handle worth a damn.

[prime valve]

Anyone here got a older audi?

Something like the a4 b8 2009 looking for some headlight bulbs since the ones on the car are literally terrible. Is it worth using LEDs or should i just get higher temperature halogens plz help :)

[stoic ledge]

Pls never use LED's in reflector headlights, only okay in project headlights. Otherwise the view is horrible for oncoming drivers

[charred depot]

but I can see great!

[prime valve]

Im just asking for advice idk which ones to get for my dad his current bulbs are literally a hazard cant see 30 in front although they are legal

Any recommendations?

[charred depot]

has the alignment been checked

[prime valve]

Yes

Its a 09 audi so that could be the problem

[stoic ledge]

You should probably get some high power halogen like Philips Whitevision or something

[prime valve]

But he just needs something brighter

HIDs are a joke

Cant belive they are sold

[charred depot]

imo correct alignments dont actually allow you to see that far

[prime valve]

The legal distance is like 50 m

I think

[charred depot]

i dont think its a distance

[prime valve]

Also the whitevision ones are xenons

Which my dad doesnt want

So idk which ones go get

In h7s for like 70 gbp tops and need to be brigh

[charred depot]

50m id say is insane distance for dipped beams

this is my car

[prime valve]

Full beam i meant

They are just super shitty

He needs new bulbs thats all i know

Oasram is a joke leds that only do 1250 lumens nice

[charred depot]

I think people expect too much from headlights

[prime valve]

My dads been driving for years and when he says they are bad

They are bad bad

Imma just get leds :)

He just needs better ones but idk which ones

[charred depot]

good bulbs are good bulbs.

[prime valve]

But which ones ?

[charred depot]

I buy phillips now but osrams are good.

[prime valve]

They both scam people to buy leds

[charred depot]

explain that conclusion

[prime valve]

So they both sell leds that are illegal and also super shitty

[charred depot]

source?

[prime valve]

And in fine print it says non homologato

Their own page

[charred depot]

send it

in my experience they clearly say offroad use only

[prime valve]

Yes

But on the philips one says legal but its not because its an led

[charred depot]

just send a link to the page

[prime valve]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-Ultinon-Pro6000-Headlight-Brighter-5-800-K/dp/B094D95XVV/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=h7+headlight+bulb+philips+legal&qid=1634426190&qsid=257-0336730-2345070&sr=8-3&sres=B094D95XVV%2CB08JZ54BPK%2CB08N56JYJT%2CB07C5RMKFW%2CB08KHJHZVQ%2CB08LQTKT6B%2CB00MZQUIRW%2CB007JZKBVW%2CB07FXRDJV7%2CB07H4NYVCD%2CB008BT1GOQ%2CB00NMEEV9W%2CB01LWPJF1J%2CB0893WXTMY&srpt=VEHICLE_LIGHT_BULB

Sorry for the ugly link

[charred depot]

what country are you in

[stoic ledge]

No?

[prime valve]

Uk

[prime valve]

Said it on amazon

[stoic ledge]

Well Amazon is wrong 😛

[charred depot]

that listing you sent is for germans really

[prime valve]

Idk its on amazon shouldnt they filter this shizz ?

[stoic ledge]

Oof Philips now has Racingvision GT200, those appear bright AF

[wispy siren]

make sure you fellas aim your headlights pls

[prime valve]

The only way is up

I ordered the whitevisions we will see if they do the job if not well imma get him a conversion kit

That comes in the more expensive models

[charred depot]

ive got the special superdipped edition. my front right has a broken adjuster so just looks at the floor.

[prime valve]

Its only 4200k

Dam it

[charred depot]

only.

4200k is insane white

[prime valve]

Looks yellow to me

[charred depot]

what are you looking at

[prime valve]

Wanted 5 k or 6 k but seems impossible to do it witho going illegal

[charred depot]

my photo is 3500k for reference.

[prime valve]

Whitevisions i ordered them

Whitevisions i ordered them

[charred depot]

im sure they will be white enough :^|

im sure they will be white enough :^|

[dense shard]

As long as you see where you are going.

[prime valve]

Yeah probably

Ill see what he says

His current ones literally look like he has cheese in front of them

The ones that you get at mc donalds

[mortal lake]

is that a ferrari

[stiff burrow]

Sheesh

[rare lagoon]

Ooooh Porsche!

[stiff burrow]

Yessir

[rare lagoon]

Is that a singer one?

[stiff burrow]

It’s an RWB

[rare lagoon]

Ok

Is it yours

[stiff burrow]

It’s imported from Japan

No

It’s my friends

[rare lagoon]

Ah.. I like it

My car is Japanese... Subaru

[stiff burrow]

Cool

[rare lagoon]

That's me and my sister

We race every now and then

The decal is purely cosmetic.. it's a cvt auto and an untuned engine...so it's slow but fun

[stiff burrow]

All that matters is that you like your car

[rare lagoon]

Oh I do

[charred depot]

guess which has the better fuel economy

[stoic ledge]

What engine was in the Peugeot?

Idk I want to guess the Peugeot, older but lighter

[charred depot]

1.8 XUD : )

yeah its alot more economical than the saab

environmental ehh

doesent even have a cat

[civic spoke]

How big of a difference are we talking?

[charred depot]

I get 28mpg avg in the saab

the peugeot can easily get 50mpg

£1.36/l petrol and £1.40/l diesel

[civic spoke]

Peugeot is a diesel?

[charred depot]

mhm

[civic spoke]

Then yeah. That's obvious that it's more efficient.

From what I have driven, then diesel cars are maybe 30% more efficient.

At least.

[charred depot]

amazing more people dont adopt old diesels

sure its worse for the environment but im sure 80% of people dont care

my dad doesent like diesels but cant really say why

just that hed never have bought one

[civic spoke]

It really isn't worse for the environment these days. DPF and DEF helps a whole lot.

[charred depot]

talking about cheap older ones

[civic spoke]

Yeah. Those are usually terrible for the environment.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah when driving behind an old diesel car or truck you can really smell it

But when standing behind a modern diesel of any kind, you don't smell a thing

[civic spoke]

https://youtu.be/Idp0AFKTRzk

[charred depot]

less removal to change a timing belt on a old peugeot than it is to change a mazda 2 high beam bulb.

[civic girder]

people generally care more about the environment than you give them credit for.

[charred depot]

im sure just as many couldnt care less

[dense shard]

Most can't be bothered to fix up an old junker. Especially when it is slower, smellier, less usable in the winter.

[deep zealot]

does anyone know what that sound is? the sound of metal hitting metal while vibrating

[civic girder]

video clip too short. Hard to get any idea of what's going on

[deep zealot]

halfway through the clip there’s a strange sound from the exhaust

might need to turn the volume up

[civic girder]

yes, I hear that, but the clip is so short I have no idea how its relevant to the rest of how the car runs

[deep zealot]

it was after a rev

it’s a F30 328i with a 6700 RPM redline

completely stock so idk why it happened

[nova python]

True disaster brand 💔 Just need to spend amlost 800 USD on whole new suspension

[charred depot]

why everything

$800 for doing everything isnt that bad but doesent make much sense

[nova python]

Im now counting labor. Goin to do it myself

Amlost whole syspension is from 2006 ;')

[charred depot]

and?

[nova python]

And its gone wayyy bad. Also my monthly sallary is lil less than 800USD

welcome to eastern europe

[charred depot]

are you exaggerating or do you seriously mean everything.

[nova python]

I mean everything

[charred depot]

I doubt it needs everything.

Nice to do stuff pre-emptively if the car is worth it and you have the money but.

[nova python]

I mean, rockers, dampers, springs

[charred depot]

whats wrong with the springs

looks to be sitting alright

[nova python]

One of them actually lost coil due to age and not best climate to italian cars

[charred depot]

:^ |

[nova python]

If car is filled with 5 ppl it goes way down on back

But I still like that car xD

[charred depot]

so sway bar links, sway bar bushings, sway bar, shocks, springs, top bearing, top mount, lower control arms / rebuild.

[charred depot]

cant wait to bring my 305 up to applecross

estate would have been nice but cant be too picky with how little there is left in the UK

Id like to source a spare engine soon enough to rebuild but it looks like im going to have to buy an entire car.

[dense shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMLYchmbbNw

[frosty hinge]

I'm french and i never seen this car before lol

[charred depot]

the 305 is such a forgotten one

theres only around 30 estates, vans and saloons on the road in the UK

rust for fun and they were just a nomie common car so no one took much care of them.

mine is very good but if you sat in the boot youd fall through

[stoic ledge]

Don't think that's really the brands fault, any car of the same mileage and age would probably have the same "problem"

[dense shard]

dunno. I've always assumed control arms and sway bars aren't consumables.

Bushings sure, but those two parts are lifetime.

[civic girder]

many times it's easier to just change the control arms bc bushings already installed

but otherwise yes

sway bars for sure are lifetime. bushing and endlink changes aren't hard

only reason to replace is if it gets too rusty or you're getting a thicker one for stiffer suspension

[dense shard]

yep

[burnt orchid]

mustang

rest are shit

[fathom socket]

The mustang was at burger King 😂

[burnt orchid]

american

[burnt orchid]

rest were at a scrapyard hopefully

especially last

[fathom socket]

Lol

[burnt orchid]

its so stupid and useless

[fathom socket]

🚗

[burnt orchid]

low af and cant even pass a speedbump without scraping hella bad

stupid car

[fathom socket]

Didn't even think of it like that...

[burnt orchid]

https://imgur.com/gallery/rY37vPs

terrible

https://drivetribe.com/p/why-stanced-cars-are-incredibly-H1IrY3AJSTKuY7hX8OaAfw?iid=Np2JATtxSHaN_gbnZ58SLw

[dense shard]

looks cool tho

[flint sable]

i like functional camber

[burnt orchid]

noitdoesnt

real lowriders do

[dense shard]

Different fanbases so to speak.

Some people like lowriding, some people like stance, some people like restomodding.

The idea of slamming a car evokes that concept car aesthetic.

[stiff burrow]

Sheesh

[stoic ledge]

Yeah sway bars definitely not, control arms idk maybe, if you replace one you are better of replacing both sides, might just be because of the bushings or there's a defect on them. We don't know the mileage and weather conditions, Eastern Europe's roads aren't always that great + some regions get loads of snow which might contribute to them rusting rather quickly

[crude grove]

Hey Linus when r u gng 2 do a Ferrari review?

[fathom socket]

and then there are ppl who like Pickups with high ground clearance.
Where the stanced cars fail at speedbumpers, a leveld up truck could also mistakenly think a stanced car was a speedbumber while driving over it.

[charred depot]

Cant get arms for my phase 2 Peugeot 305 :^(

[fathom socket]

sol my engine has no compression on cylinder one

IDK of those could be the valves or something else

[viral gyro]

if its loosing pressure theres probably some part thats compromised or broken

[fathom socket]

but I think it's gonna be scrapped

just partout what I can

unless someone wants to buy it from me

but I need a new one so bad

[burnt orchid]

not mistakenly*

[tight stone]

I like the fact that my country, 2 out of 3 cars are older than 2001

This one’s a bonus, 2 Land Rover Defenders

and a Starlet GT (which was turbocharged from the factory I thin)

This one is a 1992-1995 civic known as the EG hatch

That’s one of my favourite corollas, they came over here, idk about other countries

This is a 89-91 somewhere around there

• Civic EF hatches

2nd one just got abandoned close to my house so wish me luck, I think imma ask the owner after Christmas

(It’s sitting there 6-8 months)

Hopefully it’ll sit another 6-7

[civic girder]

Pretty sure that's the E92, 6th gen Corolla

euro and other countries got weird specs of Corollas

the US had the largest displacement motors, and Japan had the coolest specs. Every other country had small shitty engines

[fathom socket]

corvettes 🤢

[stiff burrow]

You didn’t have to share but thanks

I bet you like JDM

“Is tHaT a SoOPrA??!!1!?!!1!”

[fathom socket]

im a fan of jdm cars

[stoic ledge]

🍲

[fathom socket]

indeed

supras are alright

[civic girder]

mk4 supra and R3x skylines are mega overrated and kinda lame

[stiff burrow]

Fr

[stoic ledge]

Wdym 1.3 Corolla shitty engine

[fathom socket]

you just hating on stuff thats popular

hahaha

[stiff burrow]

New Supra is pretty cool but I wouldn’t buy one. The old one is straight up ugly and looks like the catfish camaro

R34s are nice tho

I like

[civic girder]

compared to the big block 1.8L it makes negative two hp

[fathom socket]

i want a gt86

[stoic ledge]

big block

[fathom socket]

😄

[civic girder]

[stiff burrow]

[stoic ledge]

I think we also had it as a diesel

A turboless diesel

[stiff burrow]

I want to put an LS6 in a Miata or other small car

[stoic ledge]

Imagine a Corolla Turboless Diesel

[stiff burrow]

454 CID miat

[stoic ledge]

Ah yes, 1.8 1C diesel, no turbo, 64hp

[stiff burrow]

One time I saw a chevelle that somebody put a 583 big block in

[stoic ledge]

I have no idea what a 583 is

Imagine using cubic inches

[stiff burrow]

It’s a drilled 572

[stiff burrow]

9.5L

[stoic ledge]

OOF big boi

Almost 8x my engine

Nice

[stoic ledge]

Oof actually performance not bad for a turboless diesel; 0-62mph in 14.5s...

[charred depot]

XUD7 non turbo bettr

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[charred depot]

Been looking at a spare one and yeah there isnt any

Best hope it truly is unkillable

[stoic ledge]

Don't need one, will outlive you

It is

[charred depot]

Problem is they got the reputation for being unkillable so people were like hehe no oil change for 25k miles

mines was a taxi so id guess it was properly serviced.

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As long as it had oil in it, it's probably fine

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Ah yes likely

How many miles are on it?

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150k

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Oof barely broken in

Ez

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my friend killed off a reasonably decent 205 for its XUD

also rear axle

I sorta wish id got a 205 as they are better supported but they are also more expensive to insure.

1.8D 205 was always a goal for me

305 is wonderful and a bit daunting

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Is it even an XUD7?

I thought it was a bit more recent, don't think the XUD7 was around when the 305 was made

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yeah it is

the wikipedia page and many information sources for the 305 are a bit fucked

the phase 2 305's existence seems to be often forgotten.

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Oof ok

My grandparents had a 309 diesel, but I don't know which engine specifically

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dont look at the battery too closely

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The new Peugeot e208 is such a cute little car

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Goliath

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Yeah it is

My sister in law has the new 208, but with a petrol/gas engine (company car)

Quite nice

1.2T is also a very nice engine (for a 3-cyl...)

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doing my first cambelt on this car. been blessed with timing chains thusfar.

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It works in the 208, not in the bigger stuff like the 3008 imho

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Doesn’t really matter what engine a car like that has, as long as it goes fast enough for the expressway 😂

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Although reviewers even like it there

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great thing about the 305 is its going to be a challenge to get in trouble.

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During the day our speed limit on highways is 100km/h or 62mph