cars

[solemn inlet]

That means I gotta put one on each damn LED that flashes

[vocal mural]

Or at the relay

[stoic ledge]

Adding 1 bigger resistor in series is the same as multiple smaller ones

[glacial tide]

Yo, made a lil racing vid of my shitbox 335i if anyone’s interested

https://youtu.be/ac3yfB-nfWQ

[wintry prawn]

Nice

[vocal mural]

^^

[fathom socket]

Some thi g that really irritates me

[timber oar]

What having a display in your dash?

[timber oar]

That would irritate me

[fathom socket]

That thing stuck under the display

I mean plexiglass of dosplay

[bitter compass]

Got dust between the plexiglas and the dash in my car, i feel you

Then again it isn't that hard to get that piece off but meeh disassembling the buttons etc

Im too lazy for that

And tbh pisses me less off than the scratched piano black plastic around the volume knob 👀

[wintry prawn]

For you, me and a lot of people... but I know there are people who actually failed their test with a manual multiple times and had no issues doing the test with an automatic.

[timber oar]

how the hell do you fail a manual test

the hardest part is just getting going and i had that down after like a month or two

if that long

[wintry prawn]

it's called WOMEN

whahaha XD

[timber oar]

damn you make a valid point

XD

not to mention

i learned on a near 300k mile manual

with the synchros going out

and a really short 1st because its a truck trans

got a lower mile one with more evenly spaced gears and only 4 speed

no issue

[wintry prawn]

I already knew how to drive when i started my lessons. I had to learn the proper way to "look" (turn your head when using the mirrors)

[timber oar]

ive already moved onto manually synchronizing for down shifts to lighten the load on the synchros

[solemn inlet]

Ah yes rev matching

Saves the clutch

[wanton jetty]

so what cars do you guys have?

[wintry prawn]

I've driven Wheelloaders, Tractors, (golf)Karts and forklifts since i was like 9 yo. so when i had my first lesson, the instructor got a bit overwhelmed xD

[solemn inlet]

honestly

for 4x4 and towing

auto

[timber oar]

@wanton jetty the stick i practiced on that im talking about is my 1st gen 4runner

[wanton jetty]

nice

740i E38

[wintry prawn]

My dad's old car (gasoline) basically had no coupling plates left.... really awkward when you are used to Diesel and don't need to rev when coupling in 1st gear

[timber oar]

the not synchronized j shift transfer case is my favorite tbh

[wintry prawn]

2011 Ford KA 🥺

[solemn inlet]

diesels you can just let the clutch go and it doesnt stall

[wintry prawn]

Yup

[solemn inlet]

so much low end torque

[wintry prawn]

Gasoline.. not

Now try doing it with gone coupling plates

ahah

[solemn inlet]

lmao yeah

[wintry prawn]

basically, now they are not touching, and now they are completely locked

[timber oar]

i would

LOVE

to have a tremec t56 magnum

to shove in my trans am

laughs in engineering spectacle

[wintry prawn]

im heading off

fn

gn*

[somber nebula]

Well that conversation was... interesting. Went to the local subie dealer to see how much it'd be for them to remove the headliner on my Forester so I can install a roof rack, and the service tech said if I put a tent on the rack the roof would collapse.

[dense shard]

Why do you need to remove the headliner to install a roof rack?

Also pretty sure it can take the weight of a roof top tent... just stay under the weight limit.

[timber oar]

Full exo frame time

That would be my solution xD

[dense shard]

Most cars can fit a roof top tent provided it's under the weight limit. Usually 100-300 pounds.

And apparently that's only when the car is in motion. Static weight limit is probably higher.

[fossil imp]

i was thinking the samething lol

[drowsy surge]

got to drive this beast today

[fathom socket]

nice

[timber oar]

What a spectacle

applause

[fathom socket]

i have so many cars lol

in pakistan, saudi arabia, bahrain

[fathom socket]

I came to Netherlands with ferry and instantly I'm going back to UK

[vocal mural]

Stena Line

At the left

[fathom socket]

There are only stena lines here

Still better than dfds

[stoic ledge]

[vocal mural]

I love Stena line

Sometimes taking Kiel to Gotenburg

[stiff burrow]

I feel your pain

[stiff burrow]

I want one of these so bad 😩

Which engine did it have?

I saw some guy online put a 583 in his 😂

[charred depot]

take motorway route to get home faster
cable clutch with rusted cable vs my left knee in the queues

[sterile idol]

😂😂😂

[fathom socket]

Lmao

[vocal mural]

Mastermilo wants to have

[drowsy surge]

350 small block bored to 355, all new internals and an upgraded cam

not the coolest engine but the car is still sick

[stiff burrow]

Nice

[timber oar]

Oh that car is gorgeous @drowsy surge

I'm jelly

[remote ridge]

I wish this wasn't a question I had to ask but it's there any way to fix rod knock without pulling the engine

[charred depot]

Depending on the car you can do big end bearings with the engine in situ

ofcourse it depends on the damage, if it has been continually used the crankshaft may be ruined.

<@&750150305383186585>

[timber oar]

ive seen engines where

there have been miniature grand canyons worn into the crankshaft

because of rod knock

and driving on it

[remote ridge]

Luckily I caught it and only drove like 2 miles after it happened and tried my best to keep it at low rpms

[timber oar]

probably fine

replace the bearings tho xD

just pull it dont screw around with trying to do that in the car

[remote ridge]

Dang so I will need to pull my engine then

[timber oar]

you will waste more time doing it upside down than it will take to pull it

[remote ridge]

Thank you

[charred depot]

Plenty of people do it with it in the car, If you can raise it high enough it will save you a bunch of time.

If you can get the car on a lift you will save tonnes of time

[remote ridge]

Sadly don't have one of those and I would need to drop the subframe to remove the oil pan

Just a perk of owning a miata

[charred depot]

On my car you can loosen the subframe bolts enough to get the pan out

[dense shard]

Tesla's New Steering Yoke Shows Little Benefit and Potential Safety Pitfalls

https://flip.it/.gOGUi

People are not impressed

[lone fern]

ima probably get warned but i want my car to look like this

it looks like a

charger?

idk

[remote ridge]

Looks pretty cool honestly

[lone fern]

yes

[wintry prawn]

haha

[dense shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LpLuTVNGG4 I kinda want one.

[dense shard]

It's only real positive is the fact that you can see the instrument panel.

Something most competent automakers can work around without making the steering wheel worse.

It's an issue Citroen solved in the 50s... and they kept a round wheel... and actually still looks radical.

[charred depot]

more saab stuff

Cant believe my car passed its MOT with the brake lines as bad as they were, ferrule was practically gone.

[stiff burrow]

Instrument cluster visibility isn’t an issue on most cars. Almost every car from the past 70+ years has this figured out

Tesla is creating a solution for a nonexistent problem

The yoke does look cool tho

[fathom socket]

why

[timber oar]

I can't say ive ever had an issue seeing my instruments

I'm honestly surprised tesla didn't just throw everything on the center touchscreen and not even bother with an instrument cluster

Cause screw having buttons and guages amirite

shudders

[stoic ledge]

New Peugeots sometimes have this issue, as they require you to position so you look over it to see the gauges

So you have to position the steeringwheel relatively low, so it may hit your legs, and when you move is up a bit you can't completely see the dials

[bitter compass]

James may, james may stealing from the rich, james may james may stealing from the poor

I need help

[fathom socket]

there is a fix

this but better

if it was an option on the tesla website or if it was inbuilt

this helps in manual vehicle but idrk if this would help for an over all two handed operation , another fix could be making the steering wheel more sensitive

[viral raptor]

I'm pretty sure those are illegal over here in regular cars lol

[fathom socket]

What tf

[viral raptor]

It's a safety hazard in accidents

[fathom socket]

Oh , makes sense

[viral raptor]

Yeah like that'll impale your chest if you get smacked against the steering wheel

[fathom socket]

If you hit your mouth you're ded

[viral raptor]

Well that too

[civic spoke]

Hence the term suicide knob.

[eager grove]

The headline of that article seems to be saying that the reason that Tesla did it was to make it safer

I don't think anyone is arguing that yokes are safer

Tesla are merely saying that it's cool, and safe enough

[sullen grove]

Brodie knob? See them on trucks all the time, heard some arguments that it makes steering with one hand easier ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Tesla's new yoke is another step towards one of Elon's childhood crayon drawing dream of driving an F1 racecar lol

[civic spoke]

Difference is the amount of steering input required.

[stiff burrow]

😬 that does not look good at all lmao

what a strange design choice

[stoic ledge]

They call it i-Cockpit

If it fits for you, it's quite nice

Sadly is doesn't fit for everyone xD

[stiff burrow]

the quality actually looks pretty good and i like the driver centric design but whatever is going on with the steering wheel is not it

other than that i actually kinda like it

[charred depot]

My saab has bus steering wheel so its pretty out the way of the gauges

[civic spoke]

Why are you using a Scania wheel in your Saab?

[charred depot]

Heh ive got scania saab center caps on my alloys aswell

But the steering wheel is bloody massive

[vocal mural]

Saab was from the same company as Scania

Now Saab is owned by Spyker and Scania by Volkswagen

[civic spoke]

Yeah. Which is why I said it xD

[charred depot]

I like it though its much easier to be precise when navigating small town junctions

the small mazda wheel i was always pretty jittery with when letting it feed straight

[vocal mural]

MAN is also owned by

[civic spoke]

Basically the same thing.

[vocal mural]

I like Scania lorries tbh

[civic spoke]

Same.

Would LOVE to drive this.

[stiff burrow]

Seems like VW owns most of the European brands 😂

[civic spoke]

VAG is massive.

"The Group comprises twelve brands from seven European countries: Volkswagen, Audi, SEAT, ŠKODA, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Porsche, Ducati, Volkswagen Commercial Vehicles, Scania and MAN."

[stiff burrow]

I had never heard of SEAT, Skoda, Scania or Man before talking here and in other servers

[vocal mural]

Or this

Photo stolen from min of Defence

[stiff burrow]

That would be fun to drive off-road

[civic spoke]

Ahh. Yes. The trucks that are like 3 cm too tall to drive on public roads.

TL;DR the Dutch bought 1,600 new Scania's. And they are just a smidge too tall.

[stiff burrow]

Sounds like something the Dutch would do

[civic spoke]

The funkiest Scania trucks are probably the T cabs.

[vocal mural]

(C) Min of Defence

[stiff burrow]

Those mirrors are huge

[civic spoke]

On the military one? Extra pair for the driver and passenger.

[stiff burrow]

Wow

[civic spoke]

The passenger and driver are looking at the bottom ones for their side. And the middle one for their far side.

The smaller ones on the top is the wide angle mirrors.

[charred depot]

I think my mazda 2 had wide angle mirrors, the saabs just seem to show less than im used to

[civic spoke]

Having big fat mirrors to work with is nice.

[charred depot]

also is there like a spider repellant for mirrors heh

they insist on making massive strong webs on my mirrors every night

[civic spoke]

I really just want a nice hooklift truck to work with.

[eager grove]

have all car youtubers just become parents??

Both TheStraightPipes guys, Doug and Mat Watson have all become parents in like the last 6 months

[civic spoke]

Being stuck in your house for months on end does that to you.

[charred depot]

its alright if im super patient with it

will hopefully get my new ones in tomorrow its just a couple nuts and bolts how hard can it beeee

if one of the bolts snap into the gearbox im going to mald

[vocal mural]

Due to 🦠

[civic spoke]

Literally just a MAN with a VW badge...

[charred depot]

where tdi badge

need mah GTD volkswagen truck

[real ingot]

sexy stock cars

[fathom socket]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBWR4K-jhP0

can I have this pleaseeeee

[dense plinth]

all those moving parts.. that seems very impractical. Especially when you consider what happens when say the steering wheel breaks in the down position. Plus I don't think they have self driving tech.

[fathom socket]

look , I just want it coz it looks real cool

[dense plinth]

I like the doors.

[fathom socket]

I like the disappearing steering wheel and the seating

[dense plinth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgriNm5S2WE

[dense plinth]

check out this steering wheel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PXLPzcIydw

[fathom socket]

I've watched both of those videos , but I like the audi more

[fathom socket]

i own 2 saabs a TURBO X and a 9-5 2.0T

[civic spoke]

The Turbo X is a pretty rare one.

[fathom socket]

there are 3 in my country and i have 1 of the 3

[civic spoke]

Would love to have a Turbo X SportCombi.

[fathom socket]

this even rarer

i love the sedan and i have it

[fathom socket]

Wasn't there a VW with man badge?

[civic spoke]

VW Crafter

[fathom socket]

ExCly what I was talking about

I started seeing them recently

Also

How tf you suppostled to drive trucks on those super narrow UK roads

[civic spoke]

You can work around something the size of the Crafter. But they are the largest thing you can drive on a normal B license.

I want to say that it's 2 meters wide. Give or take a notch.

Specs says 2,040 mm. So just over 2 meters without the mirrors.

[fathom socket]

So 2 trucks would have problem fitting

Also

This is how I need to hold the steering wheel to go straight

Maybe a bit exaggerated

Like 50% of current turn

[civic spoke]

Alegnment.

[fathom socket]

Every truck pulls to the right

[charred depot]

[civic spoke]

Is fine.

[charred depot]

fine till they get to the bend heh

[civic spoke]

That's their problem.

[charred depot]

we now have about 200 signs in my town saying dont take the coal road

takes the coal road.

[fathom socket]

Wrll

I had a diversion trough some thing like that

A120 was closed

And there was that tiny roundabout that the truck that was going the other way could not fit

[charred depot]

Alot of them either miss 200 signs here or think ill fit then they get to the bend

[civic spoke]

Yeah. That's a bit too narrow for two trucks.

[fathom socket]

Yeah. Fortunately there was only 1 truck on my way.

[stiff burrow]

Wtf

That road should not have trucks on it

[fathom socket]

should have height barriers

or what ever you call it

[civic spoke]

Or just a sign.

[fathom socket]

that too would work

[charred depot]

thats the coastal road so its actually pretty much their widest option :^|

other ones are narrow single track

Some of them dont have passing places and a artic truck isnt going to go onto the sloped grass for you so have to reverse all the way back to a junction

videos of people in cars refusing to reverse and forcing truck drivers to reverse down them

[viral matrix]

Glorious shitbox is still going strong

[tribal shard]

thats a good reliable shitbox mate

[bronze nymph]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/479692286083465216/883372741472968704/71db9927520e379b250668f12f8f61bbf5d909063cd6a83ad36bdba3996553e0_1.mp4

[viral matrix]

It do be

Has been so far

[sullen grove]

Hey, tpms light on, 8 year old car, on oem rims, you think it needs new batteries? How much would it typically cost if it does?

[timber oar]

the question is if you care

id rather just have a manual pressure sensor you stick on the stem

but you do you

[hard folio]

Lol....

[charred depot]

fuck I love it

[dense shard]

Tesla brake pads after a salty winter?

[hard folio]

not rich enough to have a tesla

[dense shard]

Would you get one if you were rich enough?

[stiff burrow]

This is the highest price I’ve ever seen for 93

[dense shard]

What's weird is prices have shot back up to where they were a few years ago.

We're approaching peak again, but no one is moving back to hybrids.

[civic spoke]

Just come to Europe.

I paid over $7.50 a gallon for my premium fuel.

$100+ for a fill up.

[fathom socket]

My cheap gas isn't cheap anymore

[viral raptor]

The cheapest I've seen recently was 1.78€/litre for 98

[civic spoke]

Yeah. Mine was about there with my last filling.

[fathom socket]

Lpg for my car costed 39 eruocents per liter

[viral raptor]

Then there's some stations at 1.90€/litre

[fathom socket]

Now it costs 70-80 cents per liter

[civic spoke]

Fuel prices were much nicer a year and a half ago.

[viral raptor]

The price of 95 is much more tolerable but I'd rather give my car the good stuff

[civic spoke]

I remember when it was under €1.50 for 98. Which really was just last year...

So what is it? It's like 15% higher prices now?

[remote ridge]

The craziest thing is that's just under my gas price for premium but the mid tier is well under the price of my regular

[fathom socket]

yes

[stoic ledge]

pReMiUm is over €2 at some places, one nearby is at €2.09

(9.3 USD/gallon in freedom units )

[viral matrix]

[stoic ledge]

[viral matrix]

My old rear brakes

[stoic ledge]

They're very old indeed

[viral matrix]

That's like 6 month old photo anyways

Got new pads and rotors all way around

Was at work yesterday to turn my pretty much new front rotors

[vocal mural]

I drive sometimes to Emmerich, Where it is about €1,6 liter.

[viral matrix]

They were a bit warped

[vocal mural]

Or €1,3 liter for diesel

[viral matrix]

Imagine having that cheap gas

We're at 1.7-1.8€/l on 98 octane

Only 0.1mm out, but felt like shit while braking

[vocal mural]

Netherlands?

[viral matrix]

Nah, Finland

[fathom socket]

O man. I'm going to have fun driving tomorrow at 3 am in UK

[stoic ledge]

Going to swap the Volvo to winter tires in 20°C weather

[bitter compass]

Eastern - October = summer 👀

[stoic ledge]

Summer tyres were in dangerous condition lol, so we had to

Spotted this yesterday

[vocal mural]

Regrove it

[stoic ledge]

[placid imp]

That’s such a nice Volvo tho

C30 right ?

[stoic ledge]

V40

Winter tires are on it now No R-Design wheels, but I don't mind the looks tbh

[vocal mural]

2015 Volvo V40 Diesel with 3,2L/100km average (Source: OVI RDW)

[stoic ledge]

Yeah not getting the 3.2L/100km

[vocal mural]

Time for you to book in MOT inspection

[stoic ledge]

Yeah next Friday

[vocal mural]

It ends 5 oct

[stoic ledge]

Another reason why we needed to change the tires (besides them being extremely dangerous lol)

[stoic ledge]

Also yes 2015: 28-12-2015

MY 2016

[vocal mural]

The only car who did that was VW lupo 3l

[stoic ledge]

Or the A2 3L

[vocal mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiYzbrtt838&t=266s

[stoic ledge]

This thing can get easily 4L/100km with good driving and the 16" wheels, with the 18" wheels and no attempt to driving ecological at all you can 5L/100km easy

[stoic ledge]

The red one is exported, the silver one is still on the roads

Quite a big engine in the red one also, 1.7 SDI

But SDI so no turbocharger

[placid imp]

We don’t have those models in Canada

I love Volvos idk why men

[thorny bough]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub6ndGZwixE

[stoic ledge]

Yes Volvo's are Nice

[stoic ledge]

My 83hp Corsa will beat that

[hard folio]

At least they didn't disintegrate

Those were also the rear pads on a 2012 rav4

They just... Fell apart

Rust, fun

[placid imp]

Expensive tho, they hold their value

[stoic ledge]

Really depends on the model, engine and ofc sales

These V40's were quite popular for a period of time in our country as company cars, so they sold well. All those company car contracts (usually 4-5 years) end now, so there are quite a lot for sale, which reduces the sale price. However, the "bad ones" (like high mileage, low spec etc) often get exported, and the good ones like ours (popular/well equiped spec, low mileage) are being saved.

So for now they are relatively cheap as there are many, but from now on they don't really depreciate a lot anymore. Hell, we can probably sell if for more than what we bought it for Especially this one, as it has a Volvo VEA diesel instead of the earlier models which had a PSA diesel (less power, less tuning potential and less reliable)

[placid imp]

The V40 is only in Europe

Sadly

I was thinking of getting either a C30 or S40

[stoic ledge]

C30's are getting expensive again here, especially those with the 5-cyl

S40 wasn't popular here, the V50 was more common

Very timeless design tho

You wouldn't say it's design is already over 15 years old

[vocal mural]

👍

But in terms of HGV is better

[faint moss]

getting an e30 320i soon. anyone had experience with them mechanically know anything i should know about them

[prime valve]

its a BMW

[placid imp]

+rep

[dense shard]

Drooping headliners and burned out LCD thingies on the center console.

[charred depot]

Alright who tha fuck imported a Saab 97X into the UK and why

5.3l V8 👀

[dense shard]

They wanted an American car, but without the America.

[fathom socket]

Finally installed a dashcam on my truck

Had to use a lot of foam and double-sided tape

[charred depot]

you get to keep the same truck?

[fathom socket]

Nope

[charred depot]

rip

[fathom socket]

Can't use my spare dashcam mount. This thing is permanent

Would need suction cup

Also. I had to drive 50 miles away from where I needed to get my trailer so I could get my covid test

[carmine summit]

das auto

I dropped one of mine off the other day to get a safety

[vocal mural]

MOT test?

[fathom socket]

Why did it upload 2 times?

But yeah. Not having a good day today

[wooden cargo]

MOT what?

[carmine summit]

similar yeah

I'm in Canada though

basically they just check that the vehicle isn't going to fall apart and all the safety devices work

I changed my steering wheel but it didn't throw an airbag code so it's going to pass inspection lol

[pearl tiger]

My car didn't made it cuz my rear lights are tinted. Thanks Germany

[charred depot]

I like germany now

[pearl tiger]

Nah man

Some things regarding tuning are dumb af

Like I cannot drive open air filter legally

[charred depot]

I understand banning tinting rear lights though

[pearl tiger]

Yes me too. To a degree

[charred depot]

I just hate when people can see my brake lights easily!

[pearl tiger]

I have led aftermarket bulbs

So not an issue

Right one is mine with tinted rear lights

[viral raptor]

Lol led's would be illegal over here

[pearl tiger]

Here too

But they didn't check

[stiff burrow]

why tho

[viral raptor]

Idk anything aftermarket with led's and it's like "yup you're not allowed to use those on the road"

[stiff burrow]

thats weird

[viral raptor]

Because led's are too bright apparently or not the right colour temperature

[stiff burrow]

oh that makes sense

[viral raptor]

They sell some led conversion kits for headlights here for example but any site/place that sells them MUST inform you that they are not road legal

[stiff burrow]

has anybody used the nexar dashcams? i heard good things about them was thinking about buying one

[timber oar]

we can use leds here for headlights

i think theres a brightness limit

but yeah

its the lightbars that are a no no

but headlights, especially sealed beam replacements with a nice sharp cutoff are pretty good

[carmine summit]

The law here I believe is that you can't put xenons or LEDs in housings that didn't come with them

Doesn't make sense since new cars come with them

[vocal mural]

Needs to be E marked

[fathom socket]

in india every car that is not stock is illegal

not even paint

who will see turbo tho

or any thing

this rule is dumb af

[pearl tiger]

my 1.6 16v fiat sounds better with open shroom 😄 but germany says no

[fathom socket]

16v?

[pearl tiger]

yes

[fathom socket]

i mean v16?

[pearl tiger]

no

[fathom socket]

no i guess

yea

[pearl tiger]

its 16v (valves)

[fathom socket]

oh

i am new to cars

so idk much

are the no of valves and cylinder in a fixed ratio

[pearl tiger]

for my car its 16 valves for 4 cylinders

[fathom socket]

our car is - 16v i4 80 HP , 100nm , 995 kg

[pearl tiger]

mine is 16v i4 103hp 145nm and 1225kg

[fathom socket]

what car is it

[pearl tiger]

Fiat Stilo

[fathom socket]

yours is 1.6 right

[pearl tiger]

yep

[fathom socket]

our old car was 1.6L 110 hp , 153nm , 1203 kg and it was in an accident and it was sold just for 700$

after repairing *

and our repairing cost was 700$

so i assume that it just dissappeared

[dawn glade]

No you can have 2 valves per cylinder (quite old tech), 4 valves per cylinder (usual), some Toyota engine had 20 valves per cylinder ... I'm not sure if you can cramp more than that tho

[fathom socket]

oh

thx for info

[stoic ledge]

Wait whaaaat? I don't think that's right, 20v/cyl lol

2v = 1 intake 1 exhaust
4v = 2 intake 2 exhaust

Toyota has made some 20v 4-cyls back in thr day yes, so 5v/cyl (3 intake 2 exhaust). But that's very uncommon

[stiff burrow]

Our family car has a 6.2L V8 XD

With that classic pushrod design

[dense shard]

Sort of

Rule of thumb is one intake and one exhaust minimum

[stiff burrow]

2 valves per cylinder

[dense shard]

2 valve isn't as common, 4 valve is common, and I think 5 valve is no longer a thing

That was 3 intake with 2 exhaust

As for cylinder counts. 2-12 cylinders in various shapes

[civic girder]

5 valves per cylinder is kind of controversial.

In theory they provide great n/a power, but you get diminishing returns (in terms of airflow) and vvt is significantly harder to implement

Butter off just running 4 valves per cylinder with vvt

[faint moss]

nah shit sherlock

[stiff burrow]

6.2L N/A V8, 420hp 460lbft. Curb weight of 5993 lbs

For when a big suv is too small so you make it bigger

[dawn glade]

Toyota 4age silver top and black top 20v

Yes that's uncommon

[dense shard]

Toyota and Audi were famous for it.

Meanwhile GM got good power with only 2 valves

[stiff burrow]

Case in point: LT5

772hp from OHV, 2v/cyl engine

Who needs DOHC or more than 2 valves/cyl?

[civic spoke]

Who needs either of that?
Signed.
Wankel-gang.

[stiff burrow]

Lol

You’ll need it when your engine falls apart after 25 miles

[civic spoke]

To be fair. The future of ICE is Freevalve.

[civic girder]

Wtf is a valve? Never heard of it

[charred depot]

wtf is normal higher than small amounts oil consumption

[dense shard]

Shit Honda and VAG owners say.

[charred depot]

I might be taking the saab on track which is going to be bloody hilarious

body roll intensifies

me understeering into the gravel pit :^ (

highly unlikely that ill take out track day insurance so I could have my dear saab taken away from me by some clown, or myself

who am i kidding its written off in any case if structural damage happens

[civic girder]

It's not higher than normal if it's intentional
Engine not "normal" either so the benchmark is pointless

[carmine summit]

damn yall are just ignoring 3 valve engines

[dense shard]

Apart from Ford's 3 valves... who else did it?

oh right Honda's weird tech.

I think CVCC used a third valve of sorts

[carmine summit]

I mean honda did have 12v 4 cylinders lol

[dense shard]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CVCC I'm talking about this.

[carmine summit]

yeah

[dense shard]

One of the craziest methods of bypassing a catalytic converter.

[dense shard]

I don't think CVCC was a fuel injection feature.

carb only

[carmine summit]

this is just a normal 12v 4 cylinder lol

1.5l

CVCC was 70s, this is a late 80s CRX

[dense shard]

ah, I see.

In a few markets CVCC did stick around well into the 80s.

... or 1990 in the case of the Rover

That's a bit of an oof

[solemn inlet]

New injectors. Just need to dial them into the ECU. To much soot 🤣

[fathom socket]

For the first time ever I heard the sound of our i10 , I thought it was a quiet car but when my dad floored it ,it reached 80kmph at just the second gear

And the weight isn't 995kg but 955kg

[stiff burrow]

hyundai i10?

[vocal mural]

https://www.cbr.nl/web/file?uuid=bc6d4316-8b86-48a1-811d-11fe45ab9133&owner=d214f7b5-5ce0-48dc-a521-4ef537c9d232&contentid=23041

List of allowed and banned vehicles for driving instruction ^^

[fathom socket]

cant learn in a smart roadster

[prime valve]

So BMW issues

[faint moss]

depends how you treat it

i know someone who has had the same e30 for 30 years and almost 800k on the clock. it runs fine

[charred depot]

Insert replaced parts list here

[faint moss]

basically everything, but only when needed

[bitter compass]

Sad Subaru Impreza noises

[civic girder]

Theseus Ship

[frozen kernel]

I am going to be getting my first car in about a years time and because of New Zealand pushing for EV's, my only chance of having a V8 is probably having one as a first car. I have been looking at a lot of options but I have narrowed them down to these 4 potential candidates and I need opinions.

Option A) 2008 Lexus ISF
Option B) 2005 Mercedes Benz E 55 AMG SLN
Option C) 2010 Mercedes Benz E 550
Option D) 2008-10 Audi S5 4.2L V8

What do you guys think would be the best daily driver and also "drivers car"? I am leaning towards the ISF just because I think it looks the best, most reliable, good community, I am already familiar with the IS platform as my dad has had two in the past 5 years, and good fuel economy (I won't be able to pay too much for fuel as I am a student). Thoughts?

[fathom socket]

yea

[stiff burrow]

lexus

evs are so sad

yeah theyre faster or whatever but its not the same

its like driving an appliance

my refrigerator has more character than a tesla

[lunar leaf]

i like the older IS more

none of those have good fuel economy

[stiff burrow]

that's not the point of having a v8

[lunar leaf]

he said good fuel economy

[stiff burrow]

still not the point

and why buy a v8 if you cant afford to pay for the gas

[burnt orchid]

muscle car

[burnt orchid]

1970 dodge super bee

[lunar leaf]

in NZ?

[burnt orchid]

yes

[lunar leaf]

how?

you know they're rhd right?

ffs all the amazing shit that's exclusive

get a falcon, a monaro, an rs200, a celica gt-4, toyota century

ffs don't get some boring fwd based audi with a great engine that breaks all the time

or a 70s muscle car

IS300 First Gen is the BEST IS period, who needs a V8 when you have a 1jz

if you want a lexus v8 find a first gen SC

[solemn inlet]

Man what happened to that car. Since you cant watch them anymore and have gone paywall

[stiff burrow]

If they were available in NZ look for a V8 Holden commodore

[frozen kernel]

something way out of my budget

[frozen kernel]

the isf gets 18mpg city and 23mpg highway

so not too bad

[fathom socket]

you are just a ev hater

[fathom socket]

its really bad

[remote ridge]

Personally I don't hate EVs but I will hate the mustang Mach e for calling itself a mustang when it's an SUV, same thing with the eclipse and evo

I also just think Tesla's themselves are over priced

[fathom socket]

nah

or maybe they are

but in india

we cant complain

its 8000000 rupees for the model 3

meanwhile its 4000000 rupees for US

[vocal mural]

I am a EV hater

https://tenor.com/view/rev-engines-plsy-kny-gif-12516433

[fathom socket]

i dont love ev

but i dont hate it

[remote ridge]

I think they are a great daily

[fathom socket]

yes they are

[remote ridge]

I'm tempted to buy that 1k ev that donut did an episode on today

[fathom socket]

i like light cars , above 100hp and should be hatchback

[remote ridge]

40 mile range is enough for me to get my groceries but the 25mph makes it not really good for anything past that

[fathom socket]

waht do you mean

[remote ridge]

I'll see if I can find it

https://youtu.be/c0gqZS18nfw

[fathom socket]

more like a rickshaw

so people need these now

[remote ridge]

How does someone need to know that, it's just gas and brake

Just no clutch

[fathom socket]

Don't deleeeet this is a master piece

[frozen kernel]

how

so expensive

in New Zealand model 3's start at $66k nzd ($46,343 USD)

as well as that, you get a $8700 rebate from the government

[solemn inlet]

lol refrigerator has the same sound to

Just hmmmmmmmmm

[civic girder]

Not only a dead meme, but the upteenth repost on this server

[thorny bough]

its a classic meme

[carmine summit]

none of those is a good first car in any market

if you really want a V8 you're better off with an S4 than an S5, but even then fuel and maintenance costs will be high

you're better off getting something with an LS

maintenance costs are nothing then

[bitter compass]

Well if you never drove an automatic

Nobody ever showed you

And you don't know, then you'd appreciate it to have a video that shows you how to not have a 3rd pedal

[stoic ledge]

First time my dad drove an automatic, he left foot braked

[eager grove]

Same

though luckily it was just like from the front to the back of my parents house

[bitter compass]

Rally driver in secret 👀

[eager grove]

I haven't ever driven one since I don't think

[stoic ledge]

Yeah for my dad it was also 1 street away from home in a calm town

[eager grove]

My Dad made the mistake of telling me the brake was also the clutch

he meant 'when you stop you don't need to press the clutch'

but I thought it meant I had to have my foot on the brake to pull away

[stoic ledge]

Yeah and for driving of releasing brake makes it pull away

Like you release the clutch to get going

Except completely in a different manner xD

[bitter compass]

we want pseudo clutch for automatics

Just a 3rd pedal that does nothing

[eager grove]

TBH I just want an automatic

never driven one

but sick to death of changing gears in traffic

[bitter compass]

I kinda don't

I don't like change 👀

[eager grove]

I don't really get the car-enthusiasts-love-manuals thing really

[bitter compass]

Im just used to it not that enthusiastic about having a manual maybe because i don't really get to drive autos that often so i don't have a reason to miss it

[dense shard]

And yet less than 1% of new cars are manuals

For all their love, it doesn't reflect in the market

[eager grove]

I mean, I think 1% being enthusiasts sounds about right

But it varies market to market etc

I just literally don't get it

like manual > CVT

and I get that DSGs/DCTs judder at lower speeds or whatever

but flappy paddles just look more fun to me

[burnt orchid]

you can watch them, they put a 5.0 mustang engine in it with the turbo + a few other upgrades

https://www.motortrendondemand.com/detail/rotsun-lives-again/19459/

[stiff burrow]

i like ev commuter cars, like the bolt ev (once they fix the battery issue), the vw id.4, etc

ev sports cars are not the same

maybe if i drove a porsche taycan or tesla roadster i would change my mind

[charred depot]

Id do an EV conversion, ive never driven an automatic

[stiff burrow]

lul

automatic is so easy you just push the gas to go and push the brake to stop.

[charred depot]

no experience of shitty 26 year old GM manual gearbox being resistant

let me in

What I would love to own is a 1st gen Honda Insight

[stiff burrow]

that car is so strange

[eager grove]

Cheap cars here are manual, and always have been

obviously newer cars are phasing out manuals, so that's becoming less true over time

but manuals are usually the base trims in a lot of cars

I would guess the majority of the cars on the road in the UK are manual

75% of UK sales were manual in 2020, and that's new cars

according to one stat.

According to another:

Last year for the first time, automatic cars outsold manuals, according to new-car sales statistics compiled by the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders. A total of 915,812 automatics were purchased last year, or 56% of 1,631,064 cars sold. To be sure, because of the pandemic, overall sales were sluggish in 2020. But in 2019, when total sales hit 2,311,140, automatics accounted for 49% of them.

[stiff burrow]

i think something like 5% of american car sales are manual

i think a lot of that is that the US has a lot of long, straight, flat roads so you dont really need to chose the "right gear" since you're just going a consistent speed with little stops

i live in a large metro area and most of the main roads i travel on are massive 4 lane roads with a speed limit of 40+

not a lot of windy roads

[eager grove]

It's not something I've ever understood. I imagine there are a lot of factors, but now people drive what they're used to

modern automatics are way better on average than they used to be, which is why things are changing in the UK

(I would guess)

But with EVs not needing gearboxes (except in their most absurd guise) the manual is going to die a quick death I think

I've always thought it would hilarious to have an EV with a manual gear box and a clutch, but only a single forward gear

[fathom socket]

that is like ummm a fidget toy

[stiff burrow]

lol

[fathom socket]

manuals have better range ig

mileage

[stiff burrow]

modern autos and modern manuals are on par for fuel economy

but if you really care about fuel economy get a hybrid car with a CVT

[fathom socket]

how do i find out what rpm has the best mileage in i10 2013

i really cant

[stiff burrow]

the lowest possible rpm and gear combo for what speed you want to go

[fathom socket]

2k rpm 80kmph 5th gear

ususally

would going 2.5k affect mileage a lot

ig

[stiff burrow]

maybe not a lot but it would affect your mpg

[fathom socket]

oh

[stiff burrow]

higher rpm = burning more fuel = less mpg

does your car have a 5 or 6 speed?

[fathom socket]

5

[stiff burrow]

oh ok

[fathom socket]

top speed is just 180kmph so ig its okish

[stiff burrow]

That’s also when you’re banging the rev limiter in your top gear

[fathom socket]

yea lol

[stoic ledge]

Imagine having enough power to bang the rev limiter in top gear

[fathom socket]

it does

[eager grove]

I can only dream

[stoic ledge]

Lol that's weird gearing then, that shouldn't happen with overdrive gears

[fathom socket]

i10 engine response is bad , transmission is bad

handling is good

and suspension

and mileage

about 44mpg highway

other than that its shit

suzuki swift is better

[stiff burrow]

Fuel economy 😍

[fathom socket]

kmpl right

[stiff burrow]

MPG

american

[fathom socket]

wha

da

[stoic ledge]

Imagine driving that with 9USD/gallon

[stiff burrow]

the vehicle weights 6000 lbs and has a 6.2L v8

so that is expected

[fathom socket]

fair

my car is just 955kg

but still feel like it cant accelerate

[stiff burrow]

6000lbs = 2721kg

just for reference

[stoic ledge]

Nice, that's €2k/year in road tax

[eager grove]

That's 16.9/29.3 mpg UK

[stoic ledge]

Not that bad for the vehicle size

[stiff burrow]

imagine having tax based on your vehicle and engine size 😏

[stoic ledge]

My brothers tiny Volvo diesel is already €1300

[eager grove]

The US does

[fathom socket]

i will pay the least

[stoic ledge]

It's based on fuel type and weight here

[eager grove]

their regulations just don't apply to 'commercial vehicles'

which are defined by size, not use

so it just made passenger cars bigger

because Murica

[stiff burrow]

ye

[eager grove]

In the Uk they've switched to having it by purchase price

but it's like a flat rate above 40k

and includes EVs

[stiff burrow]

that makes sense

[eager grove]

which is bonkers

it should obviously scale with vehicle purchase price

[stiff burrow]

yea

[eager grove]

(there's a bit for emissions, but cars got so low emissions they had to up it again)

[stoic ledge]

We also have a tax included in the sale price ... Based on emissions

[fathom socket]

i play nfs to mod cars cuz irl i cant afford it

[eager grove]

I just cry every time I see a nice car I'd love to drive

[stoic ledge]

So you have a 1.5 diesel Focus with 120hp? Pls pay €8k in emissions tax

[eager grove]

(which I define as accelerating to 60 in under 8 seconds and having a 500+L boot)

seems to help

[fathom socket]

ford focus i guess prbably maybe

[eager grove]

Here's one for you

Skoda Octavia estate, 148HP, accelerates to 60 in 8 seconds dead

[stoic ledge]

Dacia Jogger

Only misses out on the <8s requirement

[eager grove]

But the Golf estate with the same engine is much much slower

Don't understand it

[stoic ledge]

To be fair great car for the price

[stiff burrow]

if you fold the seats down in my family's car, you would have ~3500L of trunk space

[fathom socket]

ok with 12 seconds

[eager grove]

Mine is 10.9 with a 320L boot

[stoic ledge]

cries in 14s

[stiff burrow]

laughs in 4.5s (my car, not the big suv)

[stoic ledge]

[stiff burrow]

i wouldnt mind an 8 or 9s 0-60 as long as i can get on the highway without being a safety hazard

[stoic ledge]

If you aren't afraid to rev it, it's fine

[stiff burrow]

yea

[stoic ledge]

https://youtu.be/Uz0VKy_Z1k0

14s 0-62, still can pass cars on the onramp (horrible music, blame the radio station xD)

[stiff burrow]

having a slow car is not great but not terrible

as long as you plan ahead its fine

[stoic ledge]

Exactly

And with fuel prices here, + initial car prices, + road tax, this was the best I could do as a first car

But I still have it after more than 5 years so apparently I'm still not sick of it

[stiff burrow]

You got your moneys worth out of it lol

[stoic ledge]

I need it for atleast one more year

After that we shall see

I kind of want a wagon

Like a Volvo V60, or staying with the Insignia (basically the Buick Regal TourX without the raised ride height and cladding)

[vocal mural]

Today i did pass my driving exam! Yay

[stoic ledge]

[stoic ledge]

Another maniac on the road

[charred depot]

I love pissing off my finnish friend with how easily I got my license

[stoic ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/maniac-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-gif-5390857

[vocal mural]

I had a special examinator on board

Driving, parking a little bit motorway and done

Theory was harder

[stiff burrow]

Congrats :)

[stoic ledge]

@vocal mural are you going to buy a car?

[vocal mural]

No fundings for it

I have free public transport anyway (weekdays)

[stoic ledge]

[lunar leaf]

Moving to Europe next year. Kind of excited not to have a car for a minute.

Will get busted as 3rd gen MR2 or motorcycle ass last car before I need to probably start consider car seats.

Dream is do 3.6 V-6 swap in the MR-S if it’s possible and I’m not sure it is.

People have done it for the 2nd gen but not third as far as I know

3rd is unloved because ugly, I like it because it’s ugly.

[vocal mural]

Welcome to 🇪🇺!
You may drive with your current driving license for 1 year before you need to change it.

[lunar leaf]

That’s part of the appeal of getting a bike, but my dad wouldn’t even let me take my US drivers exam until he thought I could pass the UK one. “Perks” of an English father, but my ass could do a hill start without rolling back before I was 14.

[stiff burrow]

bike as in motorcycle or bicycle

[lunar leaf]

motorcycle

[stiff burrow]

oh ok

[lunar leaf]

idk about germany I haven't looked into it yet, but in the UK graduated licensing makes it way easier to get a license for a 250-450cc bike than a car

and quite frankly I'm too much of a psycho to put myself on anything else

[stoic ledge]

You probably first need to get A1, which is max 125cc / 11kW, after that A2 (max 35kW) and after that you can get A (unlimited)

[stiff burrow]

i wouldnt ever ride a motorcycle

too dangerous

[lunar leaf]

part of why it blows my mind people talking about wanting a V8 for their first car, I've driven REALLY powerful shit, like relatively new McLarens, turbocharged AMGS, and BMW M cars. And everything in between for my old job. I am relatively responsible but there is a thing that happens to a young person when they get behind the wheel of something super powerful, you become a dumbass really quick.

[stoic ledge]

Depending on your age ofc, after 21 you can immediately get A iirc

[lunar leaf]

And people get M3s without having ever done so much as a track day in a Miata

if you can't even take a car to 7/10s you are an IDIOT to buy it

New M3s I mean, everything up until about 2006 was pretty reasonable.

[stoic ledge]

We can buy powerful cars as first cars, except the insurance will go

[lunar leaf]

and actually the E92, or whatever the V8 M3 was, quite frankly that was 1000% better than any of the turbo ones to come after

not much torque you really had to rev that fucker

and that chassis was SO well balanced without any fucky electronic assistance you could just turn everything off and go sideways on the track and it was so easy to control

fucking loved that thing man, absolutely legendary, last good BMW ever, besides maybe the M2

[stoic ledge]

Oof I got 3 quotes for insurance on an E92 M3 as a new driver: all around €400/month

E92 is that gens coupe yes, with the V8

[stiff burrow]

yes that's so important because i go to the track everyday

[lunar leaf]

every modern M car has been an expensive electronically expensive grandpa machine for over a decade now it's so sad

just exist for people to stand in front of for their instagram

[stiff burrow]

technology marches on 🤷‍♂️

[lunar leaf]

"yo look at how much I grinded here's a bunch of shitty hashtags, blah blah inspiration bullshit"

when it's a lease they're underwater on

tech has ruined cars man, at least as enthusiast machines

[stiff burrow]

i disagree

enthusiast cars now are more powerful, better quality, ride better, handle better, do almost everything better than an enthusiast car from the 80s

[charred depot]

at the cost of losing their soul

[stiff burrow]

if "soul" is all the flaws and imperfections of old cars, then sure

[charred depot]

Well I wouldnt say any car is figuratively perfect

[stiff burrow]

Agreed

Older cars have more flaws than newer ones though

[charred depot]

The technology that was being brought up was more pointed at offloading the drivers flaws to the car

[lunar leaf]

Enthusiast cars are not better than late 90s early 2000s enthusiast cars.

You’ve got the 86, the Miata, everything else is expensive bullshit.

Mechanically worse in every meaningful way because it’s too expensive to have competent people make things, so we have robots and slave wage people from Eastern Europe and Mexico, or worse, American Georgia, assembling everything. Mouthbreathers can’t screw shit together properly so we can’t have physical knobs and buttons anymore.

Drivers aids are stupid, if you don’t want to drive take a fucking train.

[civic girder]

Modern cars are objectively better. Safety and convenience features, plus better power and emissions, etc etc etc

Not every car is built in places where the workers are underpaid or have terrible conditions

Robots are actually pretty good at assembly, and QC exists for a reason

People think old cars are better than new cars purely because new cars are boring.

New cars fall into the meta, so to speak. Almost every car on sale today fits a market where it will sell stupidly well even if its kinda shit

There are few enthusiast cars, and even the ones that do exist have some compromises that make them tolerable for the average idiot who thinks they want one.

Old cars are more daring, built during times of experimentation and when out there designs were the norm

A brand new Miata will wipe the floor when put against an 80s sports car. The suspension is better, the fuel injection and ECUs are better, etc etc.

But enthusiasts will generally prefer older cars in almost every situation. Because they are cheap, easier to modify, fix, and tinker with. But primarily because they have more character

[lunar leaf]

What 80s sports car? An older Miata? It ain’t outrunning a Silvia. Plus Miata is such an outlier it hardly counts.

Look at the state of Toyota

The new “Supra” is a fucking tragedy

No MR2

[civic girder]

An ND Miata could at least keep up with an S15 easy.

[lunar leaf]

Need Subaru to help em build the 86

[civic girder]

like I said, new cars fall into the meta

Its waaaaaay cheaper to partner with other companies and cut costs when you split R&D work

The new Supra is a legitimately fast and good car. Sure its a shame its got a BMW engine and they were too lazy to even change the door chimes, but you cannot deny its a good car

[lunar leaf]

S15 in 1999 0-60 5.6

ND is 5.7

[civic girder]

0-60 is a pretty useless metric tbh

who is drag racing their ND or S15

Cornering ability and track lap times matter more.

[lunar leaf]

Right but how else are you gonna measure it?

Track times

Sure equal conditions should be easy to replicate

[civic girder]

The fact that an ND is only 1 second slower to 60 proves that its likely just as capable on the track, if not more so

[lunar leaf]

Ooh 30 years of progress to MATCH THE 90s

[civic girder]

You also have to remember that many 80s sports cars had under 200hp, so an ND Miata will easily destroy them

I originally said 80s and you brought up 90s cars, fyi

I love my RX-7, and at its time was considered a fast car. Its 100hp was respectable and great. But its speed is laughable today, a god forsaken Ford Ecosport is faster than me.

Then you get into the rest of the car. The RX-7 has a solid axle and a watt's link that has binding issues causing snap oversteer. A Civic Type-R doesn't snap oversteer. A BRZ/86 don't snap oversteer, and also have IRS.

[lunar leaf]

I never advocated for 80s cars, always said late 90s early 00s

[civic girder]

fair

[lunar leaf]

And most of your points well taken. Defending the new “Supra” though🤮

[civic girder]

But going back to the S15 vs ND Miata argument, this isn't about 25-30 years of progress matching anything. This is a light roadster with sub 200hp keeping up and/or beating a car with over 60hp more and worse weight distribution

an NB or NA Miata would never be able to come close to an S15. The Miata has come far enough along to punch above its weight

"light" being more relative since cars have gotten stupidly heavy anymore

its a miracle to find a car that weighs under 3k lbs in many cases

tfw my 90s minivan was heavy for its time but is considered lightweight when looking at even mid size sedans in modern times

[dense shard]

New Supra trounces the old one

And if we're pretending that mods are a relevant metric, the motor from BMW is extremely robust

[stoic ledge]

I really like the new Supra

[vocal mural]

I will replace Clarkson

I look as and act like Jeremy Clarkson

[stoic ledge]

But are you as tall like Jeremy Clarkson

[vocal mural]

No

But as fatty

And even same hair

[stoic ledge]

[fossil imp]

clarkson is a dick though 😄

[fathom socket]

I hate driving in Germany

It's midnight and try to find a parking space

[charred depot]

One with the hedge

I swear a spider lives inside my mirror housing and comes out each night to build a new web

[real ingot]

2021 Shelby GT500 Nascar Next Gen Cup car

2020 Shelby GT500 NHRA Pro Mod dragster

[willow lichen]

привет, я Брэди, ты кто?

[fathom socket]

Any of you got any car recommendations preferably around 25k and easier to mod?

[fathom socket]

Idk what were you talking about but supras don't look good

[fathom socket]

In our i10 manual it is clearly said not to revv it at high rpm for more than 2 minutes

[elder pasture]

Can anyone give me niche/random car facts about..any cars or a car in specific? Toyota's, Hondas, BMW, etc.

Genuine facts btw, I kinda need this for something.

[azure stratus]

cars are fast

[strong kindle]

bro you okay there? You've been doing... things since 8 hours

[haughty ridge]

I'd recommend Big Car on youtube, he tells the stories of some cars and some of them are very interesting.

[haughty ridge]

the Citroen 2cv begs to differ. Or "de lelijke eend" as it's called in the Netherlands, which translates to "The ugly duck".

[azure stratus]

lmao

[fathom socket]

2cv is fast if you're driving through a plowed field with a basket full of eggs on the passenger seat

[stiff burrow]

Lol

That’s oddly specific

[strong kindle]

Top gear?

[fathom socket]

Yeah I’m at -2 hp though 😔

[fathom socket]

perhaps, heard it said outwith that aswell though

[pearl tiger]

new shitbox. who dis

[stiff burrow]

thats what happens when a VW golf does crack

[pearl tiger]

no my seat ibiza was golf on crack

😄

[eager grove]

*Polo

[pearl tiger]

golf and polo

polo 6n to be specific

[fathom socket]

I found mustang mach e

[eager grove]

I've been spotting lots of new electric cars recently

[eager grove]

I've now seen:
Q4 etron
Mustang Mach-E
Mercedes EQA
ID4
ID3
Skoda Enyaq iV
Hyundai Ionic 5

of the new ones

haven't seen the Kia EV6 yet

[civic spoke]

I don't even take note of EV's anymore.

[eager grove]

I mean there are Teslas and Leafs everywhere, right

not a big deal.

But a huuuggee amount of new models have launched in the last 12 months

and as an EV nerd, it's always exciting to see one

[civic spoke]

You know. You think back and say "Man. The E39 M5 was a pretty fast car".
But hecking KIA is quicker than it.

[fathom socket]

https://tenor.com/view/nanorepel-nano-coating-paint-clean-gif-8356554

[real ingot]

#cars

[fathom socket]

Found funny looking Scania

[civic spoke]

T cab.

Or T series.

But yeah, they are funky looking.

[charred depot]

seen one being used for an abnormal load

[civic spoke]

They are normally run for more special jobs these days. Since they aren't made anymore.

[stiff burrow]

What car is that

[burnt bloom]

Scion FRS

[stiff burrow]

Oh cool

[fathom socket]

best m5 is m60

[charred depot]

meeh E34 vs E39 is weird for me

mwait what do you mean by M60?

[gray lake]

I don't like electric cars.

[gray lake]

Top gear?

[civic girder]

I like the idea of an electric car

but basically all of the executions are garbage at this stage

[stiff burrow]

Agreed

I love the v10

[fathom socket]

the V10 one

only like it because its got a v10 ofc

[fathom socket]

i suppose so

[stiff burrow]

I think it’s E60

[dark prairie]

only if the reliability was as amazing as the sound of the V10😔

[stiff burrow]

Tru

[nimble creek]

before and after i bought it

[thorny bough]

🤣

[dense shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppxfU6YE8gE

[charred depot]

christ could probably hide a car infront of you from the drivers viewpoint

[dense shard]

That's the case with a lot of trucks tbh

Ford, GM, RAM come to mind

and Nissan

[charred depot]

easiest way to boost fuel economy is not to make them so fuckin big heh

[dense shard]

No one is going to want to buy em if so.

[charred depot]

cringe consumer

[dense shard]

Also it's going to be embarrassing if the new Tundra doesn't get better fuel economy than the Taco. At least the hybrid i T H R U S T MAAAAAX

[charred depot]

I really hope EV conversions take off

[dense shard]

same

There are a lot of cool 90s cars that deserve EV conversions

[fathom socket]

OHHH DAMN THATS HOT

[burnt bloom]

Thx bby

[fathom socket]

ev conversions will be cool, just need to cost less that 20k or whatever

cant wait to ev convert a fiat multipla

[dense shard]

To be totally fair

Engine swaps aren't exactly cheap

[deep zealot]

guess the car

[charred depot]

I mean the batteries alone can cost as much as a engine swap

[eager wasp]

vroom vroom

bam

boom

skrrt

boom

woosh

[fathom socket]

I'm afraid to turn it off now

[civic spoke]

Low voltage?

I mean. If the alternator is dead. Then you're going to be stranded either way.

[gritty narwhal]

Kinda funny that Linus didn't recognise the fiat multipla in the setup roast video

[thorny bough]

i kinda like this

[fathom socket]

O:

And nah my phone still charging in the truck so it's the battery luckily @civic spoke

[brittle niche]

I actually don't hate the regular Multipla. Maybe it's because in the US we didn't get them. That slammed Multipla looks pretty good.

[thorny bough]

man iv wanted a Mx5 since i was a kid 😩