cars

[dense shard]

EcoSport is an actually dreadful crossover

[frank steeple]

lets not talk about the mustang mach e

[dense shard]

Let's

[frank steeple]

they made it a suv and it sucks

[dense shard]

Because it's their best product right now

[hollow stratus]

Obviously your cars are built in the us. Here in Europe ford are generally better than opel/vaux that's coming from someone who also owns a Vauxhall insignia (us Buick Regal)

[dense shard]

Doesn't matter where they are built

Subaru, Toyota and Honda have factories in the US

[frank steeple]

mmhmm

[dense shard]

Fusion was built in Mexico

[hollow stratus]

It can do. I had a ford fiesta built in Belgium I then swapped it for a fiesta ST built in Spain and the quality and finish was noticeably worse

[dense shard]

I guess the Japanese have better qc between factories

[hollow stratus]

Highly likely

[frank steeple]

in japan, they treat their cars nicer too

[dense shard]

Errrr

Sort of?

[frank steeple]

but they don't have garages

[dense shard]

I saw a lot of rust in japan tbh

[frank steeple]

bc they don't have garages and it's an island

but besides that they treat the car like it's a living being

(mostly)

[dense shard]

lol no

That I can confirm. They treat em as anyone else does. It's just a tool.

[frank steeple]

then what kind of person was i listening to?

[dense shard]

No clue

But I lived there, and met more than a few people.

[frank steeple]

it seemed pretty believable because they lived there lol

crazy person lol

[frank steeple]

ooo nice

i want to live there when everything goes digital

too much paperwork

[dense shard]

So never?

lol

[frank steeple]

yes

[dense shard]

The paperwork memes are real

[frank steeple]

i can't live there because of my name

it's too long

so i can't fill out much paperwork without it being really difficult

[dense shard]

Worked fine for me.

Katakana really helps

[frank steeple]

i have 2 really long middle names

[dense shard]

Just use first and last

[frank steeple]

hmmm

[dense shard]

Look. Your name shouldn't be stopping you for trying to achieve a dream.

[frank steeple]

oooo so i can drift a gtst off a cliff then

nice

[dense shard]

If you can afford one, sure

[hollow stratus]

Thought second hand cars were pretty cheap in Japan

[dense shard]

Cheap to buy, not cheap to insure, tax, or drive

[frank steeple]

yeah

[dense shard]

Oh and inspection

[frank steeple]

mmhmm

[hollow stratus]

We have similar in the UK. Tax insurance yearly MOT inspection and high fuel prices

[dense shard]

Japanese fuel prices were... Fine.

[hollow stratus]

As far as I can see the us is way more lax, that's why roadkill can get away with driving literal scrap around 😅

[dense shard]

Ugh

Inspections would be a huge help

[frank steeple]

ah yes, a teenager driving a 54 year old muscle car as a daily driver

[civic girder]

Very baller. Mk4 and mk5 are poor imitations of the pure vibes of the 80s wedge

[fathom socket]

I thought aston martin was a ford

[civic spoke]

They were a part of Ford for a while.

[fathom socket]

when

[hollow stratus]

Mid 00's, that's why the V8 vantage has lots of ford and Volvo interior

[dense shard]

The V12 is still based on a Ford engine.

[civic spoke]

Two Ford V6's

[deft viper]

cars 2

[pallid sky]

who needs a v12 when u have a v10 amirite

[frank steeple]

⭐ reliability ⭐

[hollow stratus]

M3 straight 6 > M3 V8 > M5 V10 > V12 Aston is the next logical progression 👍😅

[dense shard]

AMC 242 is the pinnacle of inline 6

[flint sable]

May ur check engine light never go on ever my friend..

V8 TT is cool but not as cool as V10

[prisma cypress]

I thought that was two different photos for a second but that thing looks nice tho

[dense shard]

AMC's I6 was an epic engine. Stellantis should bring it back.

Considering most of Chrysler's products are now trucks, now is the perfect time to bring back a truck engine.

[wintry gulch]

i think ima get a gti

mk7

[dense shard]

good luck

[fathom socket]

Going back together

I also got my truck back today

Er

Yesterday

[charred depot]

considering picking up this piece of GM shite

a £300 car is a £300 car

[low carbon]

make sure it has the VAQ diff

[stoic ledge]

They're actually quite decent, but they don't really get maintained that well as they get older and then people get surprised pikachu if something happens

Main point of failure is the M32 gearbox if it had it

[charred depot]

nah its the shitty 1.6 not the nice 1.9

[stoic ledge]

Petrol?

[charred depot]

yeah

[stoic ledge]

It's not blazingly fast but those are pretty reliable

[charred depot]

i intend to sort of rebuild the engine as a learning experience

its mot expires in days which is always lovely

part of why it is worth so little especially during these times

[stoic ledge]

Just judging from that 1 pic it doesn't look that bad

Headlights need a polish

[stoic ledge]

But it's probably great to learn on

[remote ridge]

This is why I don't shop at midnight

[charred depot]

it could possibly pass first time im still going to piss about with it in my garage and go over everything

i sort of need it to pass first time or with no big issues as id need to have it transported home if i wanted no risk

police do be about

[stoic ledge]

Pick it up before the MOT expires

[charred depot]

i like the half leather seats makes it look alot less cheap

[stoic ledge]

Fancy 👀 So it's a Cosmo trim

[fathom socket]

And my car took super long to start

Like 15 seconds of cranking before I felt something happening

And now started an 2nd crank

[charred depot]

mine did that a while ago, flooded or something

took about a minute of starter bursts before it got going

[vocal mural]

Does trains count as cars? I know Pacer do but normal trains?

[fathom socket]

What does blue smoke from diesel mean

Because I could not fricking breathe

[charred depot]

beh if it was cold not too much to worry about

[pearl tiger]

i learned:
Engine burns->
white smoke - water
blue smoke - oil

[fathom socket]

It was more like a cloud of blue smoke and I could not breathe or see

[errant shore]

Oil

[charred depot]

was behind a van like that

was horrible

[frigid cipher]

Breathing high contrast of it makes your gaming skill +200%

[wintry gulch]

Well what is it?

[low carbon]

the front limited slip diff

[wintry gulch]

Don’t all mk7 come standard?

[low carbon]

nope

that's xds

xds is the braking of the inner wheel to simulate a locking diff

[wintry gulch]

Ah

[low carbon]

exiting corners with the actual VAQ diff is much more pleasant than without the diff

[orchid solar]

carz

[viscid fiber]

https://www.sema.org/epa-news

[charred depot]

turns out some of my funny noises are atleast a CV axle which is sort of a relief

engine could still be in not the greatest condition

im so clueless driving with these big ass shoes

[fathom socket]

So

My car burned oil level is on about 1/3 rd between max and min

I did 2300 km city driving since last oil change

And idk how much is between min and max

[civic spoke]

It's usually a quart/liter.

[fathom socket]

I would say that might be a lot

But also oil leaks

It's cheaper to fill my car with extra oil

O no

[civic spoke]

What you can do is add half a liter. Check the dip/e-stick. Add more if required.

[frozen adder]

is an 88 supra a bad first car?

[civic spoke]

Would be an tired old girl. That would probably require quite a bit of maintenance to keep on the road.

Not bad as a first car, if you can take care of it.

[fathom socket]

Did that

Need to wait for the engine to cool down

[hollow stratus]

your first car should be something you don't care about because it's likely that you'll dent and scrape the paintwork.

[civic spoke]

Toyota. Corolla.

[hollow stratus]

Yeah, or a Yaris

[fathom socket]

get focus

it will disintegrate in to rust when you hit a pot hole

[civic spoke]

https://youtu.be/YlYTvjUR1jg

Intro of that video.

[fathom socket]

so sad that 90's toyotas are already on they way out here

and still sell for good money

[sullen flower]

That’s how it goes

I managed to find a ‘95 Miata for like, 5 grand where I live

[fathom socket]

I mean neighbor wanted to sell a toyota yaris 1.0 I think for around 1800 euros

while my focus that has working ac costed 1200 euros

[sullen flower]

Focus RS

[fathom socket]

idk what's worse

a 1.8 16v mk1 focus with 300k km or 1.0 yaris with "180k" km

I say in quotes because I could not confirm how many km had

[hollow stratus]

I brought my partner a 2005 1.2 Fiesta as a first car and it was great, cheap and easy to fix 👍

[fathom socket]

also

the yaris looked like a wasp

like literally had a picture of wasp on it's bonned and honeycones on its sides

[stoic ledge]

Everybody told me that as well, yet almost 5 years later I still haven't hit or scraped anything 🤔

[sullen flower]

Something about the Miata NA just speaks to me

[civic spoke]

I wouldn't mind the ND2 RF.

[sullen flower]

From what I understand they’re reliable, parts are readily available and you can mod the crap out of them

[ember dove]

i miss my miata(s), stoppit

[fathom socket]

I really wish I could fit in the mazda mx5

[ember dove]

;-;

[sullen flower]

I’m assuming that last one has a custom hardtop

[civic girder]

90s Corolla's are awesome

I want another one

But not a manual.

[ember dove]

OEM hardtop

[civic girder]

Yea I don't think aftermarket hardtops come with defrost

[ember dove]

or glass windows

[civic girder]

That too

[ember dove]

they don't look good, either

[civic girder]

I hear aftermarket hard tops are overpriced and not a great solution

[ember dove]

cheaper than oem ones lmao

[civic girder]

Like, they don't provide as much rigidity

Yea that's totally fair tho

[ember dove]

cheaper and lighter, and available

sometimes they come out alright, someone just needs to make proper glass for them

[civic girder]

OEM ones are hard to find, usually come with an overpriced rustbucket car, and are expensive as fuck

[ember dove]

buying a miata for the hardtop is a meme for a reason

2000$ miata with a hardtop == 1500$ hardtop and 1000$ miata

I took mine off ASAP, I wanted a convertible I could care less about the hard top

[civic girder]

My coworker sold a rusty na with a tweaked subframe/weird suspension issue, with a hardtop, for $4300

I don't know how

[ember dove]

I sold my white one for 2000$ and a set of new tires, kinda regret that

[civic girder]

That thing, minus the hardtop, was worth maybe $1200

[ember dove]

i lov a good shitbox

[civic girder]

He put 2 different sets of coilovers on, and no matter what it would ride the tire on the driver's side

[ember dove]

that was my only miata with stock suspension and the right two shocks were blown out

[civic girder]

Lol

[ember dove]

manual swapped, as all auto NAs should be

[frozen adder]

Hmm. No supra for a first car then since I'll hate myself for that one

[civic girder]

One of my friends got an n/a mk3 as his first car. Replaced the headgasket twice and put new tires on it

Iirc he bought it for $300

[fast grotto]

m i a t a

[ember dove]

my mr2 is semi-sold, speed 3 here i come

[ember dove]

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0013/8421/8685/products/image_cc1400da-01e6-43c0-91a6-3ce9a44ad7a4.jpg?v=1572131421

gimme

https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4026/4466109510_67a159161d_o.jpg

GIMME

[bold vessel]

supras are overrated

[dense shard]

sure

[drowsy surge]

the boy

[fringe lake]

what's so great about civics again?

Reliability or the cheap parts?

[frozen kernel]

Both

And they are Hella tunable

[fathom socket]

Idk if anyone remembered my rant about not being able to charge electric car at home

But my local land administration or idk how it's called

Decided to build a charging station next to my home

So maybe a small electric city car would be an option

But I'm not rich enough to buy used electric car and own 2 cars

But I wonder how it's gonna be if it's the only working public charger

[fathom socket]

Renault Twizy
Costs about as much as 2-3 RTX3090.

without battery

4400 euros for a used one

that's too much

[drowsy surge]

reliable, fun to drive, good looking, tunable

what am i not allowed to like my car because it’s a civic?

[fringe lake]

hmmmmmm 2jz quad turbo civic time?

[fringe lake]

No, was just curious

[drowsy surge]

god no i want fuel economy

[fringe lake]

I see people flexing their 2020 civics here, but they're not even type R

[drowsy surge]

mines and LX tbf

but they didn’t sell a type R to american markets for the 8th gen

[fathom socket]

the only thing I can flex about my car has 300k km on it

[solemn inlet]

type r or not its still a civic

[fathom socket]

well

possibly less than other cars around that have like 500k+ in reality

[solemn inlet]

300k is getting close to a engine rebuild for some

[drowsy surge]

i’ve got 57k miles on mine which is really low for an 11 year old civic

[fathom socket]

not an engine rebuild

but I would need my head to be rebuld

[fringe lake]

yeah, but they flex them with BIG WANGS and horrendous exhausts

[drowsy surge]

if i ever put a fart can on my car i’d be considering therapy

[fringe lake]

i hate fart can cars

like

just get something nice

[fathom socket]

problem with civics

I can't find stock exhausts

[fringe lake]

doesn't have to be stock, just something that sounds nice

not a fart can

[drowsy surge]

the good sounding ones are expensive

tbh it’s already pretty raspy with the stock exhaust

[fringe lake]

lol

[stark roost]

kars

[fringe lake]

Not very raspy I'd say

More subtle

[drowsy surge]

well not fart can raspy

[solemn inlet]

CoLD EngiNE AbuSiNG

omG

jk

[fringe lake]

also wait

why is there liquid coming out

[drowsy surge]

idk maybe it’s cus i’m coming from a V8 car lok

water

condensation

[fringe lake]

why

oh

then ok

[solemn inlet]

its just condensation

[drowsy surge]

you should see the water that came out of my previous car

[fringe lake]

lol

[fringe lake]

a whole gallon

OH GOD

[drowsy surge]

fun fact we set that car on fire

some dumbass put spray foam in the body panels and we caught it on fire while welding

never got to drive it on roads

[fringe lake]

what car was it?

and why would you soundproof with spray foam

[drowsy surge]

2003 Ford Explorer

[fringe lake]

Oh

[drowsy surge]

i have no idea why the previous owners put spay foam in

[fringe lake]

jeez

[fringe lake]

Probably were being pricks

[drowsy surge]

this what did it

[fringe lake]

Ouch

[drowsy surge]

just a bit of that stuff and the whole car is gone

eh i got a civic out of it so i’m not too mad lol

[fringe lake]

lol

civic > explorer

[drowsy surge]

thing sounded amazing though

[fringe lake]

sounds alright

[fringe lake]

Why were all early 2000s cars curved

Like

Who decided that curves were cool

[drowsy surge]

guess it’s phasing out of the bubbly cars of the 90’s

[fringe lake]

true

[fathom socket]

I've finally managed to do reverse perpendicular parking with trailer today

3 times in a row

[frozen adder]

Boxy cars best cars.

[fathom socket]

"boxy" as in Cybertruck?

[stoic ledge]

Yikes Cybertruck

[fiery tinsel]

i hate when people call the r34 boxy

it's really not

[fringe lake]

es el box

un box

[fiery tinsel]

what about the stagea r34 lol

[fathom socket]

That's the weirdest car I've seen

[fiery tinsel]

not anymore

[fathom socket]

https://tenor.com/view/tesla-cybertruck-franz-sledgehammer-hammer-gif-18229120

Best car

[fathom socket]

No hooman car is less weird

[fiery tinsel]

but can you drift it

[fringe lake]

Les GOOO

dababy car go vroom vroom

[fiery tinsel]

yes

[fathom socket]

Who cares about driving?

https://tenor.com/view/tesla-roadster-tesla-gif-20159276

Second best car

[fiery tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/silvia-s14-s14-gif-18512277

best car

[fathom socket]

Nah

[fiery tinsel]

if you're not a mechanic you'll become one but

still best car

[fathom socket]

Ugly gas guzzler

[fiery tinsel]

.

.

[fathom socket]

No offense

[fringe lake]

if it ain't black it ain't right

gotta be the black drift spec

[fathom socket]

https://tenor.com/view/c4-black-car-vts-citroen-gif-17189462

[fiery tinsel]

yes

replied to the wrong thing bruh

[fiery tinsel]

yes

[fathom socket]

https://tenor.com/view/minivan-car-van-smoking-burning-gif-4633245

Drift

[fathom socket]

https://tenor.com/view/tuktuk-drift-slippery-road-gif-8756658

[fiery tinsel]

stanced previa

[fathom socket]

Tbh u also can Drift with Teslas. Just enable the track mode which disables ESP etc ^^

[fiery tinsel]

🥵

[fringe lake]

Does it really do that?

[fathom socket]

https://tenor.com/view/drift-gif-19033577

[fringe lake]

Regardless, the tesla tires are expensive AS F

[fathom socket]

Yeah

[fathom socket]

Yep.

[fringe lake]

hecking truck tires costing over $1k

esp for model s

[fiery tinsel]

well yeah but no sututuutu

[fathom socket]

Not if you are what's inside 😜 free tires

Imagine Cybertruck offroad tires 36" and u start drifting

https://tenor.com/view/track-mode-tesla-model3-donut-drift-gif-16596718

https://tenor.com/view/mkbhd-mini-tesla-mkbhd-tesla-pc-mkbhd-mini-tesla-tesla-pc-gif-17953900

[fringe lake]

Only sound is tires tho, no backfire

[fiery tinsel]

^

no sututututuutu

[fringe lake]

gotta have the backfire and turbo for the full experience

[fiery tinsel]

and manual

[fathom socket]

https://tenor.com/view/tesla-model-s-drift-radio-flyer-gif-18691616

[fringe lake]

not necessarily

[fathom socket]

How about firing a gun instead? Same effect

[fathom socket]

It's electric

[fringe lake]

Well obviously, but regardless

[fiery tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/disabled-wheelchair-drift-lets-go-silly-gif-4963831

[fathom socket]

Well you can mod a tesla and add a V8 if you're into that sorta thing., Or just add a speaker

[fiery tinsel]

imagine 2j swapping a tesla

[fringe lake]

would be a premium prius

[fiery tinsel]

fr

[fringe lake]

Or you could just not buy a tesla 🌈

[fiery tinsel]

imma see if anyone has 4 rotor swapped a tesla

imagine

[fathom socket]

No tesla is mandatory

[fringe lake]

lol

[fiery tinsel]

ok I searched for a rotary swapped tesla and found a tesla swapped rx7 bruh

[fathom socket]

https://tenor.com/view/tesla-dancing-elon-musk-gif-15991636

[dense shard]

Swapping an ev isn't very easy

[fathom socket]

I own an eUP currently tbh. Plan on getting a CyberTruck eventually. But until then, I plan on getting something for compensation. A good high performance quad/ATV with more than 12L/100km and definetly more than 200g/km of co2 and lots of roawr with 850ccm and about 50hp

[dense shard]

No clue why you want to buy something that pollutes more, but ok

[fathom socket]

To compensate the loss of pollution in co2 and noise of the electric car.

[fathom socket]

Cybertruck be expensive

[dense shard]

No pollution is good

[fringe lake]

I plan on buying a 2JZ swapped E30 in 5 years

[fathom socket]

Atleast the tri motor one

[fringe lake]

it go zoom zoom tho

[fathom socket]

Exactly my opinion, pollution is good.

[fringe lake]

🤣

[dense shard]

Ok

[fathom socket]

https://tenor.com/view/feel-me-think-about-it-gif-7715402

[fringe lake]

No pollution is good? Ok, pollution is good.

[fathom socket]

😂

[fathom socket]

No, pollution is good.

[fringe lake]

Agreed

No pollution is good

[dense shard]

Ok as in I'm not going to get drawn into this at 9am

[fathom socket]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-不造-i-dont-know-gif-5094560

3pm for me

[fringe lake]

10pm for me

[fathom socket]

https://tenor.com/view/smoke-broken-fixing-exhaust-pollution-gif-13337122

[fringe lake]

Crypto presentation work time

[fathom socket]

Gas cars be like

[fringe lake]

https://tenor.com/view/railway-steam-engine-train-smoke-gif-7665917

Every gas car built in the 20th century

[fathom socket]

Looking forward to the dual Motor AWD, 50 grand.

https://tenor.com/view/smoke-pollution-car-gif-11002892

[fathom socket]

Awesome!!!!!

[fringe lake]

And this is why you buy a miata

[fiery tinsel]

yes

[fringe lake]

When you don't have space in the lot, just move the shopping carts

[fathom socket]

Cutee

[fringe lake]

Disregard getting in and out of your car

[fiery tinsel]

the miata just smiling at everyone trying to put their carts back

[dense shard]

I'd put my cart back.

[fiery tinsel]

dig under the miata and put it there

[fathom socket]

Most likely will have to take a Trailer anyway because the bed is too smol 🤣

[fringe lake]

What are you transporting anyways?

It fits an ATV

All you should need

[fathom socket]

Ya tesla selling an ATV for it too

[fathom socket]

A quad. The bed is intended to be normal 6ft size and most offroad ATV/Quads are about 7ft

[fringe lake]

You could just get the tesla ATV

But I get why

atvs expensive

[fathom socket]

Actually, the quad I want to get is 7.8ft long.
Weights about 500kg (1100lbs)

[fiery tinsel]

my sister's friend's dad is getting the cybertruck for the sole reason that it's bulletproof

cause someone would take the time to try to shoot him

anyway black kouki = life

[fathom socket]

The thing is that the Tesla Cyberquad is not really an offroad ATV. Its not an ATV at all, its a road quad.

[fringe lake]

jackultramotive time

[fiery tinsel]

yes

[fringe lake]

Hmm, you do have a point

I'm not one for the outdoors so I don't know much about that

Nor would I spend money on an ATV

[fathom socket]

I plan on using my quad not only to drive offroad, but to get rid of snow, clean the road, etc...

[fiery tinsel]

some 15 year old I know has an r32 gtr

wrecked one but

still an r32

[fringe lake]

surely not a gtr

[fathom socket]

And I mean its a beauty isnt it?

[fringe lake]

Oh wow, that is pretty

Not something I'd ever use but yes

[fathom socket]

Lots or roawr.
Quad vs Motorcycle:
Motorcycle good in curves and good at high speeds, medium in offroad and bad at hauling.
Quad good at offroad and hauling, Bad at curves and high speeds.

[fringe lake]

Is that a meguiar's logo

heck car isn't being used

why not

It's already 2021

[fathom socket]

Speaking of Offroad with the quad 😉

[fringe lake]

What is the bottom one jeez

That's a bit overkill for most places

[fathom socket]

The quad does have a tracks kit 😄

[fringe lake]

Oh wow

[fathom socket]

Thats a smaller quad

[fringe lake]

This is what you pull out when it snows a foot

Nothing more

Just a foot

2 feet and you're done

[fathom socket]

I mean, u can cross mud hip depth with the default tires ^^

[fringe lake]

Hmm

Perhaps

Idk

I'd rather spend the money on something to make me more money

[fathom socket]

What matters is weight per surface area.

[fringe lake]

Doesn't that also increase stability?

[fathom socket]

Traction is keyword^^

[fringe lake]

Ah yes

Traction, not stability

Both are essential

[fathom socket]

Stability is determined by the center of mass in relation to the direction of force.

[fringe lake]

I should know this, I'm taking physics now

But yes that is correct

weight per surface area is something I'd say is more important

[fathom socket]

If u have enough surface area and good speed, u can "drive" float over water^^

[fringe lake]

No point in being stable if you don't have traction

[fathom socket]

U are stable without traction when youre Stuck in snow 😛

https://youtu.be/MH0BjeAKNhA?t=23m24s

[fringe lake]

cool

[fathom socket]

I love sherp

The best offroader

[fathom socket]

I know that beast.
0-60mph... Never.
Max speed about 45mph :stuck_out_tongue:

[fringe lake]

It is a beast though, gotta admit

[fathom socket]

Sorry, 40kph, not mph. 😅

[fringe lake]

eh

just slap a couple of turbos and a better engine on

guaranteed speed +++

[fathom socket]

Well, u need an engine which allows intependent rotation of each individual wheel and a reduction gear

[fringe lake]

Eh, just get 4 engines

Easy enough?

lol

[fathom socket]

Weight is key

That scherp weights about as much as a VW up.

@fathom socket It can go anywhere tho , if u want speed than get a range rover sport

[fringe lake]

Surely you can get an engine good enough to offset that

[fathom socket]

I dont want speed. Dnx want speed

[fringe lake]

I want speed

But I want to go anywhere

lol

[fathom socket]

That thing can go anywhere stone , mud , water , ice , hills

[fathom socket]

Take a heli/gyrocopter

[fringe lake]

No

Doesn't drive well

[fathom socket]

😂

Doesn't drive at all. It flies.

[fringe lake]

I can't exactly land a helicopter in a muddy field

[fathom socket]

Yea

Unless it has floaters not in water either

[fathom socket]

U can, with air tanks

Sherp is an amphibian

Floaters, thats the word I was missing

[fringe lake]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-explosion-fire-gif-17626599

This has wheels

[fringe lake]

Yeah, but that's not the same

[fathom socket]

I need a sherp

But

It's 120k$

Want /= Need

[fathom socket]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-15268759

Need = really want

Back to topic.

[fringe lake]

truck go brrr

It honestly looks fun to drive

Think of all the looks you'll get on the street just vibing

[fathom socket]

It will be everything but silent with those 36" offroad wheels at speeds.

[fringe lake]

Agreed

[fathom socket]

While ppl complain its too large, I would like to have an 8ft bed option... That saying, Im from Europe 🤣

[fringe lake]

I would hate to imagine an 8ft bed on a small country road

Would be terrible to everyone else

[fathom socket]

What a beauty 😍

[fathom socket]

And a tank version , maybe an Rv too

[fringe lake]

Oh god no

[fathom socket]

Why?

I want one with caterpillar tracks too

[fringe lake]

It'll disturb everyone in the surrounding area

[fathom socket]

How? It's silent

[fringe lake]

Not necessarily something I'd want regardless

[fathom socket]

I need the cannon to destruct every single one of these ugly cars

These are so dang ugly smh

And the Indian roads are filled with these sub 5000$ cars which look like 💩

[fathom socket]

So my car lost 0.5 liters of oil in 2300 km in 4 months

I don't think that's excessive

[dense shard]

Suzukis are cute

[fathom socket]

LTT car

[fathom socket]

They are ugly as f

[hollow stratus]

Bond bugs are pretty cool

[fathom socket]

@fathom socket those are really pretty cars , except the last one that's got a heat stroke

[dense shard]

I absolutely disagree.

Owned one, loved it

[fathom socket]

A melted car ?!?!

[dense shard]

A Suzuki

[fathom socket]

I own one

The designs are so shit

[dense shard]

How so?

Cervo was cute and functional

[fathom socket]

I mean atleast the wagon r and s presso

Look at them

[dense shard]

I think wagon R is a very nifty design. The ones I saw in japan at any rate

[fathom socket]

Lmao.

From when I was 6 years old I call wagon r a box

[dense shard]

I'll take it over a Spark or Ecosport

[fathom socket]

😂 ecosport looks wayyy better and has better interior

[dense shard]

I disagree

[fathom socket]

I agree

Amd it's getting late for me goodnight

[dense shard]

Ok

[hollow stratus]

This is a good looking Suzuki

[dense shard]

I remain a fan of this

[fathom socket]

I've just realised that the car charger they build is 70% per kWh compared to 1 liter of gas i put in my car

[dense shard]

It was a fun car

And I remain a fan of offset plates

[frigid cipher]

looks like a wannabe jeep

[dense shard]

If the Jeep were cheap and reliable.

[frigid cipher]

i mean i would prefer a Lada for off roading you seen the roads in rural Russia xD

[night current]

Looks like a rip off Honda fit ngl. Which I'd rather get. Lol

[dense shard]

I'm not seeing much Honda in that tbh

The Fit was more boxy.

And a Fit would have been dramatically more expensive in Japan to own.

[night current]

I guess there is a pretty big difference I suppose.

Idk, just got instant vibes to the fit

[dense shard]

Because it's a hatchback that's cute.

[night current]

True, lol

[dense shard]

But I don't really get the Suzuki hate.

It's a cheap car. Doesn't offer much else. People are waaaaay too aggressive imo.

Like damn guys... Honda really that great?

[night current]

I've never really been in a Suzuki, and I rarely see them in America. Only ones I see are slow Geo's... lol

[dense shard]

lol

Classic

[night current]

Yeah, lol. Although everyone who drives them always goes like, 15-20 mph under the speed limit.

[dense shard]

That's the best it can do.

[night current]

Damn

[dense shard]

Like... The Sidekick?

[stoic ledge]

Suzuki Swift is quite fun to drive

[dense shard]

3000 pound suv being pushed around by a 1.6

[stoic ledge]

Nowadays we use 1.0T or 1.2T, much better

[dense shard]

The turbo and modern tech are a huge boon.

We've gone from a 2.0 making 120 horsepower to 170 in more pedestrian applications

[stoic ledge]

We've gone from a 1.6 making 120hp to a 1.0 making 110hp, or from a 2.0 making 150hp to a 1.5 making 150hp

😢

Had the opportunity to drive this beast again today

A firebreathing 0.9 TCe

[indigo coral]

0.9

lol

[fathom socket]

still

better than .6

or .9 with like 30 hp

[stoic ledge]

WIth a turbo, so a whopping 90hp

[fathom socket]

I wonder how much an engine like this would last

[stoic ledge]

Idk This one's at just 30k km lol

[fathom socket]

So just around what I did put to my 300k focus

[stoic ledge]

Wait what?

[pearl tiger]

So I want new speakers for rear front doors and dash.. Is JBL stage 3 any good?

[fringe lake]

I have seen both of these cars IRL and i agree

[sullen flower]

If one guy is taking forever to LS swap a Tesla I highly doubt anyone’s even considered rotary swapping one

[fiery tinsel]

true

[sullen flower]

At that point you’re just burning cash anyhow, we all know how fucking annoying Mazda rotaries are in terms of maintenance

[fiery tinsel]

if you're not a mechanic you'll become one

[sullen flower]

Maybe that’ll change with the rumored RX-9

[dense shard]

Assuming that ever comes out.

[fathom socket]

Yayyy

[fringe lake]

It's cheap, it goes 100mph, and it's enough for most small developing nations

Heck hitting 100mph is hard on toll roads regardless due to all of the trucks and other vehicles

Def gotta blast the music to drown out the road tho

[fringe lake]

What are your thoughts on Suzukis?

Suzuki often gets a bad rap

[fathom socket]

Good utility and good efficiency (most of the time atleast from what I've seen) but extremely bad design , build quality , interior

[fringe lake]

Yeah, when it rains it sounds like gunfire in their cheaper models

Interior is functional, good enough comfort but back seats are a bit squished

Design? It works

[fathom socket]

Yeah

But design to me does not work

[fringe lake]

Explain

Why does it not work?

Car drives

[fathom socket]

Interior , above Tata Nexon , below suzuki s presso

[fathom socket]

I meant the looks

[fringe lake]

Most are under $20k

[dense shard]

That is a tragic amount of gloss black.

[fringe lake]

This is the interior of mine (stock image)

It's not premium, but no sub 20k has a premium interior

Sub $10k

[dense shard]

Really wish I could have gotten a Swift.

[fringe lake]

Swift Sport is very nice

[fathom socket]

This Tata Nexon is a 10k$ car and it looks good performs good and interior is way better

[fringe lake]

Yeah but it's an India only car

It's not Suzuki either

[dense shard]

My Suzuki views come from Japan.

[fringe lake]

Which one do you have?

[dense shard]

had

I had a Cervo.

[fathom socket]

That's the point ,

This version is around 13k

Looks so good

[dense shard]

Better than a EcoSport.

[fringe lake]

It's india only...

[fathom socket]

So?

[fringe lake]

Tata is india only

Not exactly something I could've gotten

I'm in Indonesia for context

[dense shard]

Thing is that the EcoSport is sold in the US. And it is vastly overpriced and falls short here.

[fringe lake]

Isn't that a ford?

[dense shard]

Yes.

[fringe lake]

It's obviously meant to have that "ford" quality

all of those cars have a premium

[fathom socket]

Oh okay

[dense shard]

It was Indian car sold in the US.

Well still is.

[fringe lake]

Isn't the ecosport american

it's not Tata is it

[dense shard]

Nah. EcoSport was designed for "developing" markets.

Sold in India and Brazil first. Later brought to the US.

[fringe lake]

Still Ford badge tho

[dense shard]

True.

But does the badge really dictate origin if the car was designed and built outside of the US... or a non-American market?

[fringe lake]

Honestly ford sucks

I know someone with a 2013 everest, and the ebrake locked up randomly

[dense shard]

ouch

That's not great anywhere.

[fringe lake]

yeah

Car was barely touched

could've just been the rain

[dense shard]

Still I think it's cool you can buy an Indian car in the US.

or rather Indian built.

[fringe lake]

I mean, you can get a lot of foreign built models in the US

[dense shard]

Because material quality aside I don't recall there being any build quality issues.

[fringe lake]

India factories are pretty good

[dense shard]

sure, but most cars are built in Germany, Japan, or maybe China.

[fringe lake]

Tata owned stuff is reliable most of the time

[dense shard]

Turkey and India are rarities.

[fathom socket]

Even if it's india only the Nexon is such a good car I love it , tell me that does not look like a 40k car interior

[fringe lake]

Something rarer: Indonesia

[dense shard]

I'm sorry, but it doesn't.

I love dual tone interiors, but gloss black is a cardinal sin of automotive design.

[fathom socket]

There are options with Matte wood

[dense shard]

I'd take that.

Thinking about wrapping the trim in my car.

[dense shard]

tiny windows

[fringe lake]

We love it when your country's only automotive producer based in the same country copies chinese design

[fathom socket]

Wdym?

Uhhhhh why does it have RR Ripoff headliner?

[dense shard]

lol

"luxury"

[fathom socket]

Lol

[fringe lake]

This is identical to a chinese car @fathom socket

No joke

[fathom socket]

Which car

Name it

[fringe lake]

Esemka Garuda 1 and some goldensomething

[dense shard]

I'll stick to Toyota.

[fringe lake]

Oh did i mention that it sits 8 people for only $20k?

[fathom socket]

but which came first

[dense shard]

My car sits 5 uncomfortably for 23k.

[fathom socket]

Don't see a similarly

[dense shard]

I see it now.

[fringe lake]

@fathom socket Foday Landfort

[dense shard]

It's like a Mercedes met a Jeep.

[fringe lake]

Foday Landfort and Esemka Gauda 1

They're similar enough to be copies

[fathom socket]

they just look so high up

[fringe lake]

consider the new Xpander

about 1700mm

A soccer ball fits under the thing

[fathom socket]

Oh , u didn't mean Tata , yeah they look like copies

why would i buy a fake suv, that doesnt even do a good job of looking like an suv lol

[fringe lake]

It works

For $20k

[fathom socket]

Looks like a station wagon

[fringe lake]

In my market, the goal is to fit as many people into a car for the cheapest prrice

That Esemka Garuda 1 does 8 for $20k

[dense shard]

Just buy a real SUV.

Buy a Jeep.

[fringe lake]

3rd world country?

[dense shard]

sure

Imports exist.

[fringe lake]

Not everyone can afford a vehicle more than their house

[fathom socket]

import a jeep

[fathom socket]

Meanwhile at Tata under 20k

[fringe lake]

INDIA ONLY

[dense shard]

Live out your American dreams of driving a Jeep Grand Cherokee WJ.

[fringe lake]

And this is why we need tall cars

[fringe lake]

It can cost up to 3x the price of these people's houses

[dense shard]

Be the American you know you can be. Eat McDonald's everyday... and cry when you try to refuel.

[fathom socket]

yeah that Range rover aint surviving that

[dense shard]

Fine. Live out of the Jeep.

I never said my advice was good.

[fringe lake]

I mmean

Most are open top

it wouldn't be unviable tho

[fathom socket]

What about jeep compass

[dense shard]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Evh2mYMWQAQQsc6?format=jpg&name=large Just don't look underneath it.

[fathom socket]

That's under 20k in india

[fringe lake]

Jeep compass is still over 2x

[dense shard]

I wouldn't go for a Compass.

That's just a crossover.

[fathom socket]

brown is quality welding marks right

extra durability

[dense shard]

That's rust.

[fathom socket]

I don't like it either , Tata harrier is a way better option in india

[fringe lake]

Isn't the harrier a toyota/lexus thing

[dense shard]

My mind went to Toyota.

It is in Japan.

And only Japan.

Venza in the US.

[fringe lake]

The harrier is a toyota/lexus thing

it's not only japan

[fathom socket]

i just cant look at an SUV without a little something dying inside me

[fringe lake]

Oh in my country these are toyotas which go by the name "Fortuner"

Very similar body design

[dense shard]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EuuI4fPUUAA_wSG?format=jpg&name=large I don't die. I'm already dead inside.

The WJ has done all of 250k.

[fathom socket]

It's different!!

[fringe lake]

Rookie numbers

[fringe lake]

Barely

[dense shard]

For a Jeep that's pretty high.

[fringe lake]

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a25645830/hyundai-elantra-million-miles/

[fathom socket]

they are different cars

[fathom socket]

How???!

[fringe lake]

Original powertrain

[fringe lake]

Oh wait sorry, I'm thinking of the rush

Rush looks a bit similar

[fathom socket]

Smh

[fringe lake]

lol

[dense shard]

The Harrier and Fortuner are totally different it seems.

[fathom socket]

Not much

[dense shard]

Unibody vs body on frame.

[fathom socket]

Harrier is based on a land rover platform

[fringe lake]

Eh

Still never something I will ever want

[fathom socket]

Same as discovery sport

[dense shard]

Reminds me of a Kia.

[fringe lake]

We all know this is the perfect family car

[fathom socket]

[fringe lake]

Fits 6 if you do it right

[dense shard]

A Toyota Camry?

[fringe lake]

Camry is actually not too bad

Give it a couple of tunes and you're off

[fathom socket]

https://youtu.be/1mPmCDS66Qc

This is a family Car

[dense shard]

I would say Corolla, but my hatch isn't exactly... big.

Actually compact.

[fringe lake]

Yeah, but this isn't something you can just BUY

At least the skyline can be built piece by piece

[fathom socket]

We can but money

[fringe lake]

yes

Why am I talking about cars

I have a cryptocurrency presentation to make

[dense shard]

Nissan has a long way to go to regain trust in the US.

... so does Toyota.

[fathom socket]

Same in india

[fringe lake]

Toyota is better than a lot of people think

They're everywhere

Easy service, parts aren't too expensive

[dense shard]

My issues are more political with Toyota right now.'

[fringe lake]

Oh, i could care less about the political structure of a car company

As long as whatever I use lasts for 5 years it's fine

[dense shard]

Not that. Toyota opposed more stringent emissions in the US.

That really got a lot of people angry.

Not that. Toyota opposed more stringent emissions in the US.

That really got a lot of people angry.

They were supposed to be the chosen one. They were like a brother to me.

[fringe lake]

Oh that

Yeah, that's not too good

In every other country it doesn't really matter tho

[dense shard]

I mean nothing happened, but I don't think it's a good look for a company that made the Prius to be all eco friendly.

[fringe lake]

Is the Prius even eco friendly?

[dense shard]

Yes.

[fringe lake]

What most people use to charge it is not

And it's a hybrid no?

[dense shard]

There is a PHEV version.

But most people buy the standard hybrid.

[fringe lake]

eh if I wanted a phev i'd get the Ioniq

[dense shard]

And there's that.

There are better choices than the Prius Prime.

[fringe lake]

This is a much sexier car than the Prius

[dense shard]

Like the RAV4 Prime... or the Ioniq, or the well pretty much any of them.

Too bad about the Volt.

Sexier car, but not great to drive.

[fringe lake]

I was in a volt once

[dense shard]

Their transmission needs tuning.

[fringe lake]

Was very cramped

[dense shard]

I'm fine with compact cars.

[fringe lake]

I'm fine with compact cars if I sit in the front

If I sit in the back? Hell no

Most try to fit 5 when it really should only be 4

[dense shard]

5 in a pinch.

4 maybe in the 'rolla.

[flint sable]

It does look really good

Honda clarity IMO looks really good too

[dense shard]

it do

I see one every so often in my area.

[fringe lake]

Bit pricey though

[dense shard]

Well it was originally Honda's fuel cell flagship.

[fringe lake]

I wonder what's happened to the Honda E

[dense shard]

But then they made it into a BEV and PHEV.

Honda E is in Europe.

[fringe lake]

I thought they were brringing it to the US

https://www.hyundaiusa.com/us/en/vehicles/nexo

This thing isn't too bad

380 miles a tank isn't too bad, only issue is the hydrogen fuel stations

Then again you get literally $15000 in fuel so

[dense shard]

If you can find it.

Hyundai has bigger issues tho.

[fathom socket]

Mustang headlamp vibes

[fringe lake]

Don't ever call hyundai light likes similar to a mustang lol

[fringe lake]

Such as? I know they don't have the best electrics

[fathom socket]

They look similar!!!!

[fringe lake]

Don't disrespect

But yeah maybe

[fathom socket]

😂

[fringe lake]

Still better than the prius

[fathom socket]

Mustang ev looks lame to me doe , like it's lost its personality , it looks too sleek for a mustang

i like the ioniq, its not too bad

[fringe lake]

mustang is meant to be ROAR ish

If you take away that scowl, it's nothing

[fathom socket]

Yeah

[fringe lake]

Better than the prius

[fathom socket]

Mustang ev does not make any sense

i get why they did it, but i still wouldnt buy it

polestar 2 is better than it imo

[fringe lake]

Tesla is better

[fathom socket]

Yeah

Just get a model x or wait for cybertruck

[flint sable]

Parents almost got used model S

2013

Not enough range

[fathom socket]

Lol yea

[fringe lake]

Could've just gotten a new model 3

[fathom socket]

free supercharging though

[fringe lake]

didn't they end that program?

[fathom socket]

you cant get it on new cars

but older ones get them forever apparently

Yea

[flint sable]

Good point

Got this instead though

[fathom socket]

Got what instead?

[fathom socket]

😳

[fringe lake]

Dang

[fathom socket]

fair enough i guess

[fringe lake]

We got a rich one

[fathom socket]

Ye

[flint sable]

I mean

21k

[fathom socket]

ye porsche SUV aint exactly expensive where i am used

[fringe lake]

no way 21k

[flint sable]

and a trade in value of the old Dodge Journey of 7

[fringe lake]

well regardless

parts

repairrs

[flint sable]

Let’s see if I can find similar

[fringe lake]

hecking tire changes

[flint sable]

Oh for sure

[fathom socket]

i have a bad impression of porsche suv's because some guy that lives somewhat near me is a terrible driver

[fathom socket]

Looks like its in great shape

[fringe lake]

Lol

[flint sable]

Lol here’s one

https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/WP1AB2A23DLA85784

[flint sable]

Not anymore.. someone curbed the wheel lol

[fathom socket]

cheapest porsche in the UK rn

[fathom socket]

totally wont cost like 5k easily first rep

[fringe lake]

Ugly as hell tho

[flint sable]

New wheel ordered though

[fathom socket]

well, you dont have to look at the exterior from the interior

i wouldnt get one of them tho

much better can be had

[flint sable]

They are ugly but I’m pretty sure the turbo S of that generation are relatively affordable, if you can bear the ugly

[flint sable]

What would you go for?

[fringe lake]

I'd rather get a nice looking car costing a bit more

No point in getting an ugly Porsche

[flint sable]

Oops lost context of that

[fathom socket]

hmm, for 4k probably some bmw or an alfa i guess

[flint sable]

Definitely

[fathom socket]

something that doesnt make me want to commit not see anymore

[flint sable]

Unless it’s a turbo S than I’d have no interest in a first gen cayenne

[fathom socket]

Is getting a 2015/16 used merc a good idea?

idk, they are probably quite expensive to repair but im just guessing

unless you can get some kind of warranty or something

also probably depends alot on what model

[dense shard]

Out of warranty German cars are a huge gamble.

If you do want one, make sure you have all papers.

[fathom socket]

Ugly 2005 porshe for 18k

[flint sable]

Flashbacks to lopsided R-class due to air suspension failure

[fathom socket]

Nice

Where did you guys go?!?

[fringe lake]

What

I'm just working

[fathom socket]

its like 4am where i am lol

had to do work

but now i must sleep

[fathom socket]

seen this one irl suspension is shite

[fathom socket]

nice

[errant shore]

I just got an ad for a Mercedes supra r8

[hybrid aurora]

does anyone here like JDM cars?

[stoic ledge]

That question only passes here like every other day

So... maybe?

[civic girder]

Considering I own 3 Toyotas and a Mazda, I'd say that's a yes

[fathom socket]

what's JDM?

[civic girder]

japanese domestic market

[fathom socket]

I thought it was Honda Civic VI with fart cans

[civic girder]

USDM would be United states domestic market