cars

[wooden cargo]

£3k to 5k

Could get a ropey one for 2 back in the day

[charred depot]

want something i can learn on and not be mad when i time it wrong and blow it up

[wooden cargo]

Peugeot 106

MX5 is also very good for that

Engines are £200

Gearbox is like £50

[charred depot]

ive considered a nb mx5 but itd be useful to have more space

[wooden cargo]

What’s your use for the car

[charred depot]

learn on and potentially replace my current car

[wooden cargo]

Any track or fast B road driving?

[charred depot]

good handing would be nice but im not too picky

[wooden cargo]

Clio RS mk3 is nuts

4 pot brakes

Solid engines

Handle really well

[charred depot]

im considering a low spec engine E46 touring

decent chunk of stuff to maintain, im sort of looking for a pain

[wooden cargo]

E46 is alright

Your project car isn’t gonna be your daily though is it

[charred depot]

ill keep the mazda 2 unless i happen to get the e46 reliable

[wooden cargo]

Good idea

Sucks not having a working car

[charred depot]

main reason i wont really do work on any of the cars in use

[wooden cargo]

Shame you can’t really have a cheap RWD JDM project car these days

Drift tax killed them off

[charred depot]

my friend has a e36 touring which id like but much harder to get than a e46

[wooden cargo]

Drift tax doing a number

I’m hoping it brings up the value of MX5’s

[charred depot]

drifting has done a number on his

[wooden cargo]

Looking pretty sad

[charred depot]

it has a MOT still

[wooden cargo]

Stevie wonder doing the MOT

[charred depot]

theres photos of it online before it was butchered

so sad

[wooden cargo]

Not huge on his choice of wheels

There’s some idiot with an e36 saloon on my road

He’s got mismatched wheels and also painted the fronts pink?

looks horrific

Complete cop magnet

[charred depot]

he did the rear bushings in his old high schools rear parking lot

[wooden cargo]

Oh no

[charred depot]

no one stole the diff was left there a day or two

[wooden cargo]

Most people don’t look at a car with mismatched colours and think anything’s worth stealing

[charred depot]

bonnet was red aswell but spray painted

[wooden cargo]

I polished the MX5 bonnet

Clearly had been painted once upon a time

[charred depot]

the car only has 100k miles on it

[wooden cargo]

Was all fogged up

Came out black

Horrific orange peel but we move

[charred depot]

want to get a dual action polisher

[wooden cargo]

They’re cheap

Mine was £100

DAS-6

I’d lend you mine if you were local haha

[charred depot]

probably quite the trek from central scotland

[wooden cargo]

Small but ever growing arsenal of products

There’s more that aren’t in that photo and I’ve bought more since 🤣

[charred depot]

e39's are going more than e46's here at the moment somewhat cheaper too

[wooden cargo]

Top tip - steer clear of EZ car care

weird

[charred depot]

its slightly too long for my garage

can fit a 4.7m long car in

[wooden cargo]

Hahaha

F

if you want my recommendation for any car cleaning products go straight for P&S btw

Their shampoo is perfect and reasonably priced

[charred depot]

might, would only really benefit my car

dads car has clearcoat peel i think from the sheer amount of bird shit

[wooden cargo]

Haha

There’s a good product for that (I don’t own it)

Think it’s called dry rinse?

[charred depot]

maybe too far gone now

[wooden cargo]

Oh I meant for removing birb shit

[fathom socket]

Love that my car switched to lpg on a sharp turn

[wooden cargo]

I bought a Yaris GR too

Kinda upset seeing all these ones blow up atm

[fathom socket]

I fricking lost control for 2 seconds

[wooden cargo]

Really reconsidering

[charred depot]

i seen a couple of the old yaris gr's here

[fathom socket]

Also I need to fix that play in the throttle

[charred depot]

dont think they are called gr's

[wooden cargo]

Great filming skills from@my passenger

Pretty nifty car

[charred depot]

done any trackdays?

[wooden cargo]

I guess I own one too? 🤣

Nah

Had one booked December

Got cancelled due to Covid

[charred depot]

theres only really one proper track in Scotland

[wooden cargo]

Rebooked it for April

[charred depot]

charge like £300 a day

[wooden cargo]

There’s a good drift track in Scotland

Assume that’s where your mate goes

[charred depot]

yeah i live near there

they are killing off e46 compacts which is a good thing i guess

[wooden cargo]

I hate them

Kill them with fire

[charred depot]

why couldnt they just keep the same frontend

[wooden cargo]

and the e36

Kill all the compacts with fire

[charred depot]

e36 compact i could live with

e46 compact is too far gone though

[wooden cargo]

Kill it

With fire

[charred depot]

theres lots of drift car e46's for sale round here. id like something i can properly insure though so i can drive it elsewhere without getting immediately beamed by the police

[wooden cargo]

That’s my issue with the MX5

The Cupra I can mod to all hell as my insurer loves modifications

The MX5 is insured with a not so friendly company

All I want to do is KW coilovers and upgraded arms etc

Definitely don’t rice the outside police will hate you

[karmic verge]

Boutta get a 2010 nissan ultima for 3k.

What should I do to it and all of its 110 HP glory?

[stoic ledge]

Ultima? The ultimate Nissan?

[karmic verge]

Whatever the fuck its called

Altima

Smh, ultima altima, said the same way.

[fathom socket]

Holy snikes.

She is TALL.

[compact niche]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/453775003528200202/821140923814510643/20210315_145429.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/453775003528200202/821140925019324426/20210315_145450.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/453775003528200202/821140925681631252/20210315_145440.jpg

Love it. Always wanted a Bronco and finally snagged a great one

[charred depot]

paints too nice

[compact niche]

Its like a flat grey

[carmine summit]

Audi Nardo Grey probably

was really popular a few years back

people were painting everything Nardo Grey

[compact niche]

You know better than I, still a great looking truck though

Its a "refurbished" 1973 Ford Bronco

Though, its more of a full rebuild and restore if anything

[unkempt walrus]

what car do you guys recommend as a first car?

[fathom socket]

miatia

jk

[dense shard]

Toyota Corolla or Honda Civic.

[fathom socket]

CiViC

[civic girder]

Corolla, Civic, CR-V, Rav4, or anything similar to any of those 4

[fringe lake]

is the civic the fastest out of all of those (type R)?

[civic girder]

you're funny

[flint sable]

Mfw 200$ shitbox

325xi

[fringe lake]

Surely the type r civic is faster than a corolla or rav4

Maybe not a top end CRV

[civic girder]

Bro, this question and answer has nothing to do with the Type R

This is about cheap shitboxes for first cars

[fathom socket]

HONDA FIT FROM 2013

[dense shard]

yes actually

A Fit is great as well.

or a Yaris.

[fringe lake]

OHHHHHHHHHH THEN YEAH all of them are fine

[fringe lake]

Yaris is expensive, get an Agya/Ayla they're less than $10k new

[civic girder]

Yaris are cheap as fuck in the US

[fringe lake]

$20k+

for new

[dense shard]

In the US its under 20k

[fringe lake]

new?

[dense shard]

Yes

My Corolla was a bit over 20k

[fringe lake]

Odd

Oh wait

Yeah nvm it's slightly cheaper

Still $17,400 at the cheapest tho

[dense shard]

That's very cheap

Not many could match that price in the US

[civic girder]

Yaris is also big ded in the US

you can't get them new anymore

or do we have one more gen of the Mazda 2 rebadge

[dense shard]

Yep
Leaving the Versa, Mirage, and the Koreans as the last sub 20K cars

And apart from the Mirage... decent choices

[civic girder]

is the Spark gone too?

or whatever that shitty $16k GM car was

[dense shard]

GM wishes it was

[fringe lake]

You do have a point

[dense shard]

I'd rather have a Mirage

[civic girder]

and personally I'd argue the Versa isn't much better than the Mirage

[fringe lake]

Mirage only outputs like 64 HP no

[civic girder]

The Accent isn't completely awful at least

[dense shard]

The new generation is much better

[civic girder]

is it still CVT?

[dense shard]

They all are

But offers a manual

[civic girder]

Nissan and CVT don't go in the same sentence

unless you also include class action lawsuit

[dense shard]

Meh, they're getting better

I'd risk a Nissan over a Ford.

Comfy seats

[civic girder]

yea that's a fair point

Ford interiors have been ass lately

[indigo coral]

I wouldn't get a cvt regardless of brand

They're all 💩

[stoic ledge]

^ yes

[low carbon]

CVT WRX

[stoic ledge]

Absolutely horrendous

Luckily there's a manual option

(not the they are affordable here, €100k )

[low carbon]

All CVT WRXs here are driven by short women somehow vaping and on their phone at the same time in stop and go traffic

[stoic ledge]

Idk, I maybe have seen 1 WRX of the last gen IRL... so I won't judge about that 😛

[low carbon]

I’ve seen maybe three women driving new STIs though which I really respect

[fathom socket]

Had to drive lorry with trailer that had flat Tyre

[pearl tiger]

Hey sexy.

[compact thorn]

milwaukee and bosch are great

[compact thorn]

lucky

[fathom socket]

Bosh green be like

🔥

[raw grove]

LMAO true

[wooden cargo]

Milwaukee fuel is god tier

Shame you need to remortgage your house to buy any of it

[compact thorn]

where i am

milwaukee and bosch are the same price

ish

for most things

[wooden cargo]

Bosch is ok

But I wouldn’t put it up with Milwaukee or even makita tbh

[compact thorn]

ehh ig

i feel like ive had better experiences with bosch than makita

but milwaukee is truly top tier

[stark sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PFcqngI-fc

[fathom socket]

I found bosh proffesional is super expensive

and people tell to stay away from bosh green

people tell me that dewalt is also very good but it's expensive

[charred depot]

the bosch professional drills are weak

shitty cheap einhell has more power

[fathom socket]

I got ryobi

Ryobi R18PD3 4 Ah + 2 Ah 18 V

paid like 115 euros inc shipping

my brother uses parkside tools for work

[wooden cargo]

Is dewalt expensive?

I thought it’s pretty cheap here

Ryobi is decent too

I’m about to buy into an ecosystem just can’t decide which

[fathom socket]

I found ryobi had a decent price and it has a lot of werd things tthat could be useful

meybe depends on the tools I'm looking

[dense shard]

I'll probably go Milwaukee.

[fathom socket]

if u have money

[dense shard]

I have money

[fathom socket]

I don't

just the hammer drill combo costs almost as much as my car is worth

[fathom socket]

tank

actually

this is something that I wanted to do as a child

bruh

[fathom socket]

AS someone who has invested in the DeWalt ecosystem, cannot complain about the tools but regret not going flexvolt or just going Milwaukee but it depend son what you are using them for and how frequently.

For 95% of people DeWalt, Etc are overkill..

I've heard DeWalt is really good

but I've invested in Ryobi

at least I can finally work on my car on parking lot

[charred depot]

i just live without power tools for now, its painful for rusty bolts but less risk of breaking them i guess

[low carbon]

Yeah Milwaukee is the way to go but expensive upfront cost

[smoky halo]

anyone know what car this is

[bronze nymph]

Mercedes-Benz AMG GT 4-Door Coupe

Which is a sedan lol

[low carbon]

Not as bad as the 4 series gran coupe though

The sedan version of the coupe version of the sedan version

[bronze nymph]

I just don't know why they call it a coupe though.

[ember dove]

"low roof"

[unborn cedar]

🅱️

[bronze nymph]

lmao
IIRC they call one of their SUVs that too for probably the same reason

[civic girder]

almost looks like a Mercedes, idk tho its hard to tell from this distance

[low carbon]

Coupe really just means “less practical” now

Then again some cars are being made with a coupe version in mind...the new Audi Q3 Sportback has the same space as the regular one to the cargo cover

[solar verge]

What’s a good affordable first car

[solemn inlet]

@fathom socket Ryobi is like in the middle of the brand for quality tools

DeWalt and Milwaukee are the tops I reckon. Thats if ypu wanna pay like $450 for a 1/2 impact gun or angle grinder

[night current]

@solar verge What kind of car are you looking for?
A car I'd easily recommend is a early 2000's Lexus es300. Decent power, fairly luxurious, and pretty cheap. It uses shared parts from the Toyota Camry, such as the engine, so it'll be pretty reliable also.

[fathom socket]

Tank

[solemn inlet]

I wonder what an electric helicopter would sound like

[fathom socket]

exactly the same as a normal helicopter?!

Because the sound of the helicopter you hear from the outside is generated by the mechanical blades interacting with the air.
The larger the blades, the lower the sound.

[solemn inlet]

Well yeah and no

You can hear the jet spinning a bit

But mostly blade noise yes

[fathom socket]

when youre inside or the helicopter isnt flying, yeah then u can hear the engine.

[solemn inlet]

Gonna be cool to see a lot of electric army equipment getting around

[fathom socket]

well, there are already battery-electric destroyers (ships) and main combat tanks.

[solemn inlet]

I will miss the big turbo diesel sound tho

Yeah those tanks are quick

[fathom socket]

I would like to have the upper left 😄

[solemn inlet]

Top right needs tracks

Wheels like that wont be there for long

[sturdy solar]

Top right looks sick tbh

[fathom socket]

Not neccessarily. IRL tanks do also not always have tracks despite having a high caliber gun.

[sturdy solar]

It does need tracks indeed

[solemn inlet]

Ground clearance is a big factor too

[sturdy solar]

Yep

It'd be like driving a lambo in that case. Just a bit... more heavy

[solemn inlet]

I just see it being hung up on everything from the long wheelbase

[sturdy solar]

As long as you make the ground clearance lile 70cm i dont see a problem with that lol

[solemn inlet]

I have been in one of those. Its the long wheelbase that throws it off

[sturdy solar]

Still no tracks tho

XD

[fathom socket]

Thats the point. Tanks with high caliber guns dont need tracks^^

[solemn inlet]

Wheels are more reliable then tracks for speed and distance

[fathom socket]

than tracks*

[sturdy solar]

True, wheels r better most of the time anyway

More traction with wheels

[solemn inlet]

What?

no

[sturdy solar]

Actually yes

[fathom socket]

more traction with tracks/chains

[solemn inlet]

Tracks have more footprint

^^

[fathom socket]

traction is determined by contact area and applied pressure

[sturdy solar]

Yes, and the surface it self

If you lower the tire pressure you get a lot of contact area and rubber is stickier than metal tracks

[fathom socket]

surface .. Thats the contact area u mean

[sturdy solar]

Anyway i gtg to school now bye

[fathom socket]

But u know that there are also rubber tracks?
Because tanks need to be able to drive on roads without destroying them

[sturdy solar]

Well yea than i guess it makes more sense

I kinda meant metal tracks

[fathom socket]

im in school btw atm^^

[sturdy solar]

And i gtg so bye

And gl xD

[solemn inlet]

Tracks dont last so they use these to get to the site. Mostly because those tanks use to much fuel

[fathom socket]

nah those suc

[errant shore]

But its electric

[fathom socket]

Hello

[chilly dawn]

https://drivetribe.com/p/sabine-schmitz-dies-aged-51-JL9JU_jXT0eFNQNaMQr34g?iid=SZxkhDuoTryysDERBB592g&utm_campaign=main+&utm_medium=fb&utm_source=organic

[fathom socket]

who cares

[errant shore]

Me

[fathom socket]

ok

[fathom socket]

The military does. Because the vehicles are much more silent and cooler without an internal combustion engine so they have a highly reduced signature.
Also its easier to deploy a power source/storage on-site than it is to deliver gasoline.
Also you can operate in many more environments like in serve cold or at high altitudes where ICE does fail due to lack of oxygen or freezing liquids

Like airplanes, which are effectively limited by the engine efficiency because of supplied oxygen of how they would rise.

[compact thorn]

RIP

the nurburgring has lost its queen

[fathom socket]

nah that one was coller

[fathom socket]

look at it

Thats matter of perspective. I do like the Cybertruck, but I also like me some good old ATV/Quad with a 14L Gasoline engine and much 'roar'

[fathom socket]

In case I ever get to get a Cybertruck, for sure I will use it along my gasoline quad. Need to compensate the missing noise and smell a bit at least. 😉
The CT for road and light off-road and the quad for everything else.

[vagrant dune]

@solemn inlet fellow army trucker?

[solemn inlet]

I wish

Nah I cant drive anything over 20ton GVM

[fathom socket]

I see why cars that have r5 or v6 are luxury here

The tax is like 18.6% for engines bigger than 2l

[vagrant dune]

I cant drive a truck with a big trailer either, but I drive a truck in the finnish army

[fathom socket]

I saw am army truck with a pathetic looking little trailer

I think they had an ATV i think

It was so tiny

[queen coral]

What do you guys think of the TRX, better than raptor?

[solemn inlet]

Ugly? Idk new stuff looks so weird now

[dense shard]

It's peak FCA.

It's big, brash, built. Useless as a truck, wonderful toy.

[charred depot]

all the bmw's indicating today meanwhile a riced out zafira and your usual crossover people ehh

[thin wasp]

https://youtu.be/jHF3RHQCqsA

seriously BMW?

[charred depot]

Decent anount of metal in my old oil :^(

[fathom socket]

F

[charred depot]

probably my fault for doing stupid stuff on old oil

[charred depot]

pretty stupid car park design really

[fathom socket]

a lot of people turn right on that no turn sign

[low carbon]

What’s the problem

The 4 series is ugly as we all know, so might as well make it an EV to get those EV diehards into the brand because it looks different and stands out

[fathom socket]

I've seen a BMW like this

yeah it was ugly

[sage ledge]

All the new ones are like that i think

[flint sable]

Engine wise, yes

But I still think raptor has the advantage in everything else

With the Baja racing experience

[dense shard]

The TRX is essentially bespoke. I'd say they're pretty much on par.

[frigid frost]

today i saw a skoda

pog

[stoic ledge]

🤔

[ember dove]

Bye winter, hello shitty all season tires that at least have more grip

[charred depot]

top gear top tip when exiting tescos onto the roundabout position right dont indicate left then turn left.

i am mad

[bitter compass]

Why does my brain automatically connect a red Mazda of that era with the rx8

[fathom socket]

My all sezon tyres have no grip

They just slide on rain water

And they are not round

[flint sable]

Mfw Bentley bentega before the Bentley bentega

[grave night]

Ah yeah Dougie boi talked about those on his more doug demuro channel about how they are #1 on his list of cars he would love to review

[dense shard]

Looks like a Jeep with a body kit.

[carmine summit]

Today was st patricks day, guess I forgot to wear green

Was too busy driving this

Going to look at this

Anyways I have 3 green Volkswagens now

I swear it isn't intentional

[low carbon]

I feel bad for you

[ember dove]

https://youtu.be/jvjIIyCtysY?t=158

👀

[fathom socket]

So a Mazda can go that fast???

[shrewd harbor]

my friends rx7 spitting flames

[shrewd harbor]

ik u watch more doug demuro

[fathom socket]

Fricking finally

Managed to do reverse perpendicular parking with trailer

[wooden cargo]

Recovery game strong

[eager grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkpOZ1UlkPc

Doubt anyone cares

but this guy had his model Y for a year, drove close to 15k miles, got 272 wH/mile

which equates to an average range of ~267 miles

[fringe lake]

then?

[eager grove]

much less than the 315/324 that Tesla quotes

[fringe lake]

So Tesla lied like it likes to do?

[eager grove]

Erm, not exactly

I doubt most gas cars hit their EPA mpg figures either

[fringe lake]

Could just be the batteries degrading

[eager grove]

Maybe a little, but not by too much in a year. A few percentage points maybe

What's shitty about the EPA test is that manufacturers choose the bloody numbers

[fringe lake]

Oh yeah

EPA means shit

[eager grove]

so Tesla (and others, like Nissan, Peugeot, Polestar 2 etc)

have numbers way higher than their actual range

but the Taycan beats it by a lot

and the Mach-E tends to hit it, even with a lot of elevation changes, because the battery in it is so enormous

[fringe lake]

hmm

[fringe lake]

Shame the tesla is worse lol

Then again they have the charging network so

[low carbon]

https://youtu.be/w6-iJKHqCAQ

what a joke

[fringe lake]

This is why I don't touch mercis

[low carbon]

or just don't live in a country without good rejection/lemon laws

[fringe lake]

true

[eager grove]

@fringe lake I think the fact that it can hit over 250 miles in 15000 miles of real world driving is amazing - I ran some numbers, and that's what I'd need off an EV to make it so that I didn't have to increase the number of stops I'd take on road trips

[low carbon]

apparently the case is fairly well known in poland yet mercedes don't care

[fringe lake]

I mean, 250 is only the beginning

Once we get 400/500+ is when the story can truly start

Think about it

NYC to Cali with only 6 stops to charge

[fathom socket]

I think I've told that before

Someone bought a brand new Mercedes that fell of the lorry

Got repainted

[eager grove]

wild

@fringe lake I think faster charging is a big part of it as well. The 800/900V infrastructure the Taycan uses means it can dump a HUGE amount of electricity in not very long.

[fathom socket]

I think electric cars are not worth we're i live

[eager grove]

That would make the difference for me. As I said - on a 300 mile road trip I'd stop at least once anyhow

[fringe lake]

Yeah, the charging time is a big issue

Gas? 10 min if you're taking it slow

Charging? An hour or more

[eager grove]

So if you're on a 400 mile road trip for example and you have to stop once, that's no biggie

but if you have to stop for 45 minutes vs 15 minutes, that's a bigger dealbreaker for more people

[fringe lake]

yeah, like imagine spending 30 hours instead of 24 on a trip because of charging

[eager grove]

Makes a much bigger difference in the states

I live in Bristol in the UK

even a trip to Inverness is only 530 miles

in 9 hours of driving

I'd stop for food twice on a 9 hour drive anyway

[fathom socket]

I think the biggest issue here would be cost and finding a working charging station

[fringe lake]

I think the issue is getting more stations out there

[eager grove]

so if I had a 250 mile EV I could use 80% of a full charge (down to 20%), charge up with lunch back up to 80%, go back down to 20% again, charge back up to 80% with dinner and have made it all the way

[fringe lake]

If there is a station in every town, then EVs will become much more viable

[eager grove]

The Tesla stations are everywhere, and most service stations in the UK have chargers, but they often aren't even 50kW

[fathom socket]

I think there should be at least every gas station

[fringe lake]

Surprisingly Tesla isn't everywhere yet

[fathom socket]

At least outside city

[fringe lake]

You won't find a station in a lot of states which should have them

[fathom socket]

I'll get a ev bike instead

[eager grove]

The Tesla route planner from Bristol to Inverness has a 23 minute stop, a 22 minute stop and a 15 minute stop

[fringe lake]

zoom zoom

[fathom socket]

I really go for long trips so

[fringe lake]

Bikes on long trips don't seem good

[fathom socket]

Bike for the city

[fringe lake]

Dusty and hot/cold and everything

Oh bike for the city then yeah why not

[fathom socket]

I think it's much viable option for me

[eager grove]

If only better RxEVs were available

[fathom socket]

I still wonder how my 1200 euro focus didn't totally fall apart after doing 30k km In 1.5 years

[eager grove]

holy shit

how are you doing that much driving? Where do you live?

[fathom socket]

Poland

[eager grove]

55km/day for 1.5 years is bananas

[fathom socket]

The most i did was 1200 km in 1 day

But mostly I did 500-600 km trips few times per year

Because it's cheaper than train

[charred depot]

34 miles a day is nothin :^ |

[fathom socket]

Imagine truck driving

[eager grove]

I've driven 60,000 Km since I bought my car

in 2016

[fathom socket]

Half of me

And I bought mine in October of 2019

[eager grove]

bananas - during lockdown? Where could you even travel to

[fathom socket]

Now I have over 300k km

[eager grove]

I did 6000 miles last year, and half of that was driving my son in circles to get him to sleep

[fringe lake]

pro nascar driver eh

le mans time

[fathom socket]

Mostly trips to family

[eager grove]

Once did 5 hours driving to and from the airport in a single day

How many hours of travelling was driving 750miles in a day @fathom socket ? That's insane

[fathom socket]

The 1200 km trip took like 14-15 hours

[fringe lake]

Nice highways you got there

[fathom socket]

Only driving with no breaks counted

[fringe lake]

In my country from where I am to a big city it is 500 km in 13 hours

[eager grove]

how long with breaks?

where you from DNX?

[fringe lake]

Indonesia

[fathom socket]

17 I think

I was going from Switzerland to szczecin

[eager grove]

I flew to indonesia once

17 hours of flying

[charred depot]

i did some delivery driving for a charity during lockdown probably one of the most stressful things ive done being that most of the drops were in Edinburgh

[eager grove]

that was gruelling, I cannot imagine 17 hours of driving in a day

[fathom socket]

But in Poland I didn mostly 800 km more or less

That took 14 hours

[eager grove]

The furthest I would ever drive in a day would be to inverness or to Germany - both of which would need less than an hour of charging time over 9 hours of driving

(In a Tesla Model Y)

3 stops both times

so I just don't see that it makes anything but the most extreme road trips unmanageable

[fringe lake]

guys

[fathom socket]

I have to stop every 250-300km to put gas

[fringe lake]

did you ever notice this

In File Explorer lol

[fathom socket]

What it has to do anything with cars?

[fringe lake]

Nothing, just funny

And if you really want a relation many cars need help

My car needs help to push it over 100HP

[fathom socket]

I think 113 hp my focus has is enough

[fringe lake]

My Baleno has 91 HP :/

The ECU tune would give it 101 lol

[fathom socket]

Would need more torque and wider tyres

[fringe lake]

For my car?

[fathom socket]

My

[fringe lake]

Ah

Yeah prob

Are the focus seats any good?

[fathom socket]

But I don't want go diesel

[fathom socket]

They are meh

[fringe lake]

Diesel is expensive and the economy is not that great for non-oil

[charred depot]

diesels decent in the UK

[fathom socket]

For me it's just a vomit machine

[fringe lake]

yeah diesel is stinky

[fathom socket]

It's more about

Vibration and stuff

[fringe lake]

I like the smell of gasoline, smells like hard work and doing stuff to your car

[fringe lake]

Diesel is quieter though, especially in big vehicles

[fathom socket]

In big yeah

But all diesel cars i had in my family

Made me just sick

I drive this

And I have no problems

[fringe lake]

Not exactly a usual car

[fathom socket]

I get in Astra 1.7 cdti or VW Passat 1.9 tdi I just throw up after 20 minutes

[charred depot]

the busses we had for school were rattling all the windows at idle

that really annoying like resonance

gets in your ear and everything

[fathom socket]

I found fiat Uno

Didn't see one in years

[eager grove]

Newer diesels from the German manufactuers are clean-ish, diesel gate notwithstanding. Much quieter than the crap we used to have

but even then we had a diesel 1995 Nissan Serena, then a diesel 2000 Ford Tourneo 9 seater and then a diesel 2004 VW Touran

and the improvement each time was astonishing

I hope never to own a diesel

lolwut

someone is trying to sell this piece of shit for £9k

https://www.motors.co.uk/car-54387494/?i=4&m=sp

[solemn inlet]

Any modern diesel either has an EGR system or DPF

You'll never see any soot from them at all now

[fathom socket]

a lot of diesels have DPF system cut out

at least here

[solemn inlet]

You get huge fines here if you tamper with the emissions system

[fathom socket]

here is just like

whatever

[solemn inlet]

Lucky

[fathom socket]

nobody ever checks for emissions yet

[solemn inlet]

I hate EGR systems

[fathom socket]

Polacks love to steal DPFs from cars

and catalytic converters

[solemn inlet]

if the cooler fails, coolant drips into the engine and gives you head gasket signs of problems

[fathom socket]

just lock the valve

[solemn inlet]

On my diesel you need to get blanking plates and a chip that plugs into the map sensor to tell the ECU its still got an EGR sytem working lmao

Otherwise it puts itself into limp mode

[fathom socket]

meh

and I'm still thinking

I got a check engine light 2 weeks ago

and now it's gone again

last time before it went away it was blinking

and it felt like it was misfiring really really badly

[solemn inlet]

Yeah misfires will throw codes

This is what happened to mine. map went faulty on me

[charred depot]

Truck squeezing past cars in my street

Managed it better than some cars that come down here

[wooden cargo]

Inb4 this thing breaks on me soon

[fathom socket]

Are you serious?

WHA?

[wooden cargo]

Welcome to the UK

[fathom socket]

Imagine having to buy a tow hook for a vehicle

Mine came factory with one

[fathom socket]

My car always zaps me with static

[gaunt sapphire]

dang

[dense shard]

Tesla's Beta "Self-Driving" Software Sure Seems Heavy on the Beta

https://flip.it/14jb9o

[fathom socket]

car

cool

[grave night]

car go brrrrrrr

[warm sparrow]

you don't understand that's only for the look

do you think my fake Password JDM tow ring is useful

it looks real but it would probably break if you try to tow the car with it xD

[wooden cargo]

I know that it’s only for the look

But I don’t understand why you would want your car to look like it breaks down a lot

[charred depot]

need to get some paint mixed for the civic

rear outer arch getting crusty

[flint sable]

Kek

Not my pic

Still funny

[warm sparrow]

really ? that's just a race car style, this thing is mandatory on a track (i mean in a real useful version)

[wooden cargo]

But you just look like a muppet

It’s not cool or functional

[charred depot]

Phoenix NB MX5 going for £1995 here with 86k miles

Presumably has the LSD bit too nice for me though

full service history and everything

[hard folio]

what do y'all think about the mk2 headlights?

[charred depot]

beh

[hard folio]

I personally think they look too big

[wooden cargo]

@charred depot don’t

You’ll be like me

On the back of a truck

[charred depot]

still runs

[wooden cargo]

True

But runs nowhere

[dense shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGRE_7yz_kM

Magic at 50 minutes

[low carbon]

DTS season 3 out!!

[civic girder]

Can't wait to start it tonight with my friend

[warm sparrow]

only if it's done like shit like this

[unborn cedar]

The AM ngl, and while they both have the same engine the AM sounds incredible

https://youtu.be/cUW-EcDWzp4?t=117

I still wish they'd used the V12 AM but I can understand why from a logistical point of view

Very helpful if you can use the same spare parts on either engine

[charred depot]

1.3 2010 mazda 2

beauty

[unborn cedar]

Can't get insured on a mazda 2
wtf did you do

[charred depot]

nah was experimenting with pay by mile insurance

[unborn cedar]

Ah

[charred depot]

seems to require you to be over 21/25

would of been great for a second project car but ill probably just have to live with paying for a full policy the now

[fathom socket]

I need rebuild my steering rack

[charred depot]

theres so many junk focus' why not yoink one

[fathom socket]

Or never drive on highway

With my luck

I'm going to get another one that has play in it

You know what was fun

[charred depot]

mines has play on the inner tie rods not the rack itself

[fathom socket]

I have new tie rids and it still feels loose

[charred depot]

sure they did the inner ones aswell?

[fathom socket]

I think so

Everything was bent there

At least on right side

[charred depot]

i want to do my inners but ill probably find a way to mess up the clip and have it undo while going 70mph

[fathom socket]

But not being able to control the car while on emergency in highway going 140 kmh was so un fun

[charred depot]

mines has noticable play but its not dangerous

[fathom socket]

In city it isn't even noticeable

But gifhway feels like death

[charred depot]

when i corner at 60 on high friction surface im pretty sure its the cause of the heavy vibrations

Dingeth door

[charred depot]

Happy radiator

[twilit leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/minivan-car-van-smoking-burning-gif-4633245

Explain

How

[civic girder]

Skill

[fathom socket]

Engine temp after driving 140 kmh on highway

Something is off

I never see it go in the middle

[fair bronze]

RIP thermostat

[viral matrix]

[charred depot]

weird lightbar not my thing, good car though

[fathom socket]

It literally goes up to this temp and doesnt go further unl;ess I push it harder

but still not much higher than this

[dense shard]

Sounds like a bad thermostat

[civic spoke]

Aye. I agree with above statements.

Sounds like the thermostat is stuck open.

[civic spoke]

Here's the video with sound. https://youtu.be/xpwmN3d0x_s

[twilit leaf]

Oh it’s a burnout

[low carbon]

I don’t think that’s the problem, it’s just that the DBS is more grand tourer than the Vantage

[ember dove]

https://youtu.be/HZnaypsIs-w got me a dragy lol

[unborn cedar]

You might be right, just thought they would want to use the superleggera engine since it does fit in the chassis

Although

I don't know any figures but I suspect the v12 engine is much heavier

Not really ideal when you want to be taking corners as fast as possible

[low carbon]

I think they’re just slowly developing the V12 Vantage

Took ages for the last one to get the V12 variant iirc

[unborn cedar]

They shoved it in the speedster

but

obviously that has changed weight ratios so it can't really be applied without a lot of testing

[fathom socket]

Minor leak

[jagged wagon]

Gives me old school Red Green Show vibes. 😄
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJwjMoP4-T8

[frigid cipher]

Haha

[foggy sphinx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=antLneVlxcs

[dense shard]

The future next year.

okay soon... okay not any time soon.

[night current]

Definitely getting there, cool to see the progress of automated driving.

[dense shard]

It's nowhere close to being there.

And the fact Tesla is relying on non-professional drivers to test it's half baked software on public roads horrifies me.

[fathom socket]

the thing is with these kinds of systems is, without a huge amount of data from a full open beta roll out, it would take much much longer to make the same strides forward

[dense shard]

There are ways that don't involve putting the public at risk.

Otherwise we can wait.

[fathom socket]

probably not as well as a real world scenario could do it

the guy said it did alot better in suburbs, which is probably what they tested for

[dense shard]

The more you add into the system, the more unstable it begins. Fortunately we can run simluations that test for all cases without using drivers.

You can generate an insane amount of data far faster than even a million drivers can.

[fathom socket]

but you cant ensure that your simulation data correlates with real world data without a fair amount of data

I wouldnt be suuper suprised if they roll back the system, or geofence it so it wont be exposed with those kinds of city environments once they have a fair chunk of data

[dense shard]

You can ensure anything digitally. You can program the most tragic of edge cases.

You can run a billion trolley simulations if required.

People shouldn't have to put themselves in danger or put others in danger to develop a system. Especially not when Tesla refuses to take any responsibility.

[fathom socket]

There's definitely better ways of doing it

but i'd guess this system, even though it did pretty badly there, did better than other current systems might have

[dense shard]

We don't know if that's true because other automakers haven't released half baked features into the wild for customers to beta test.

[fathom socket]

i'd like to see apple just magically release a self driving car

and then as all the accidents happen, they either say they're driving it wrong or, that they had the courage to release it early

[dense shard]

Honestly? The stuff I've been hearing about them over the last 5 years?

I doubt they'll release a car to consumers any time in the near future.

Maybe do a paper launch by 2025.

But they have no reason to rush in right now.

I'm more curious to see how they'll work with automotive ownership and maintaining relevance as older models hit the second hand market.

[low carbon]

https://www.autocar.co.nz/autocar-news-app/volkswagen-tech-features-could-soon-be-pay-as-you-go

“We make offers to customers who then come to us. For example, you have a customer with a battery-powered vehicle, and if we notice he does long journeys, we can provide him with additional range, which we can do digitally.”

fucking volkswagen

[ember dove]

inb4 extremely easy car hacks making all cars the highest trim immediately

[low carbon]

that's already sorta been possible with vw

in europe, instead of spending $$$ on lane keeping assist, auto high beams and traffic sign recognition, you could just spend $100 on traffic sign recognition and code the rest in in half an hour

since traffic sign recognition was the cheapest way to get the camera that those other paid options use

[fathom socket]

Icheck engine light again

I've noticed a pattern

When I drive a lot in the city

It comes up

But when I drive outside the city

It goes away

[solemn inlet]

You hooked a scan tool to it?

If ur engine is rough around the city

Could be a misfire

[fathom socket]

Tried

I get no connection

Also one time when it broke down on highway

I got huge missfure for short moment

[solemn inlet]

Yeah sounds like a fueling problem or sensor

[fathom socket]

Check engine light was blinking and then went away after 20 seconds

The problem was chewed up wiring

[solemn inlet]

Were you just getting off the highway or it did it while you were just driving

Ah I see

[fathom socket]

When I was driving

Also

I have a bifuel car

[solemn inlet]

bio?

[fathom socket]

Na

Lpg

[solemn inlet]

Ahhh

Right

[fathom socket]

But it does even on gasoline

[solemn inlet]

Yeah

sometimes the valve that switches from petrol to lpg gets stuck

I know it happens a lot on the older gq patrols

But thats not ur problem

[fathom socket]

Also

Idles rough when cold

It feels like engine is vibrating a lot

[full bough]

I have to plug my truck into an electrical outlet if it gets too cold to keep the block warm or it won’t start 😂

[solemn inlet]

@fathom socket Sounds like compression

rings are cold then it warms up and can burn fuel

[fathom socket]

did you mean oil?

[solemn inlet]

Nah

When your engine is cold the rings are smaller which lets air get past them. So the fuel doesn't always ignite causing rough idle while cold. Once the engine is warm the rings get bigger and seal better. All engines will run rough in really cold weather for 10 - 30 seconds

If a diesel is really hard to start while cold. I would always check glow plugs

I dont know much around LPG engines. Mostly petrol and diesel

[fathom socket]

It runs more for like 5-8 minutes

Hm...
The most sold pickup truck in the US, the Ford F150 now also does suffer major shortages of silicon.
Estimated 2.5billion USD loss within first half of 2021.

[dense shard]

And Toyota apparently was ready.

[fathom socket]

IDK

they were super rusty so I've removed the rust and painted them gold

[split notch]

New bumper gang

Fittament out the box turned out really good

[fathom socket]

Water pump

[charred depot]

suprised your rear outer arches arent bubbling

[fathom socket]

why?

[charred depot]

focus mk1's left are quite tatty around the arches

[fathom socket]

huh?

sorry

me dumb and I don't quite understand

[charred depot]

theres barely any left and the ones that are still going often have rust around the rear wheels

[fathom socket]

most of my car is rust free

all the rust it has is on the right fender and all the doors

[charred depot]

fun to think about the hard depreciation on these

i imagine a 730D back in 2004 costed a hefty amount now going for £1600

[fathom socket]

I really consider cheap BMWs as unreiable cars

but uk car prices are like 1/3 or 1/2 of here

[charred depot]

certainly not the easiest to run cars yeah heh

[fathom socket]

idk what my old frield bought

but his bmw costed as much as my ford did

it fell apart after 2 months

[charred depot]

i want a E46 to take apart and learn on

[fathom socket]

I wish I could work on my ford

but I look at the engine bay

and It just scares me away

[charred depot]

yeah can be hard to get started with work like that especially when its your only car and in use

[fathom socket]

also everything is so cramped and I don't want to risk

maybe some old carburated 4 banger that engine bay is half empty

[charred depot]

id feel bad potentially ruining a classic

if i grenade a £800 E46 beh

[fathom socket]

idk why

but łada 2107 it's appealing to me

[charred depot]

go for decent money here

even when oozing with rust

[fathom socket]

there are plenty of "destroyed" ones

I think the appropriate term would be

ruined

Łada nivas are really cheap

[charred depot]

i was actually going to go for one but the insurance was too steep for me to justify

was a riva

[fathom socket]

Łada Samara

aslo

my Focus has 4 airbags

I have no idea where the other 2 are

[charred depot]

one way to find out

[fathom socket]

I guess it's spanner time

[charred depot]

give it a little bump into a wall

[fathom socket]

ooooo

the seats have airbags

[pearl tiger]

Yeet.

[lilac iris]

Pagani Huayra R with naturally aspirated V12? 🤔 They gots me attention once again

[kindred zodiac]

Hoonigan.com has 50% site wide for the weekend

[fathom socket]

Do you want to know how much tires for my firetruck cost

[civic spoke]

At least $50.

[fathom socket]

$500 per front tire

And around $250 for each rear tire

And there are 4 rear tires

[civic spoke]

So I was right.
It was at least $50.

[fathom socket]

If I have to replace those anytime soon I think I will die

do you know how much a set of tyres for my focus cost?

[civic spoke]

They usually last two-three years, or there abouts.

I forget how long the tires on my truck last for. Haven't really had it long enough for it to matter.

[fathom socket]

I already had 2 flat tyres on the truck I drive

and 1 on the trailer

and they ran out of spares

[pearl tiger]

i pay $ 160 for my tyres.. including change and install (on my car)

[fathom socket]

Tires for my firetruck are worth more than my car or truck

[pearl tiger]

my car is around $850 worth 😄

[fathom socket]

I think 1 tyre is worth more than my car

mine has value of around 300 euros

500 at best

I pay 30 euros + 20 euro install fee

I just got Stelies for winter so I don't need to visit tyre shop so often

especially after fucking up

[civic spoke]

I had a stone punch through one of my drive tires while I was fully loaded.

That was FUN.

[fathom socket]

you know what was fun

trying to change tyre but the jack went inside the car

[civic spoke]

I've also had a mild blowout on the right front tire on the freeway while fully loaded.

Btw, I weigh ~28 tonnes while fully loaded.

[fathom socket]

that sounds scary

[civic spoke]

Lets just say that I woke up from that blowout.

[fathom socket]

I only drove unloaded truck and unloaded trailer

[civic spoke]

At least it was a mild one. In the way that it was a loud bang, but the air was let out slowly.

[fathom socket]

This is fine

This is also fine

[civic spoke]

That's supposed to be IN the vehicle.

[fathom socket]

It's on a tractor frame

[dense shard]

I'm more worried about the rusted oil filter.

[fathom socket]

looks so mint

Very mint

[fathom socket]

This hurts my brain

[odd talon]

HELLO fellow VCDS user!!

[low carbon]

Yep, too bad it’s useless with the new MQB evo platform

[odd talon]

is it?

i thought HEX NET still works

[low carbon]

It only works for basic functions

Hell even MY21 models you couldn’t code anything driver assist related

[odd talon]

I wonder if Uwe will update it for those cars

[low carbon]

nope. gotta use other software now

you can do a diagnostics scan but you can't change coding/adaptations without an authorisation token from VW

read this: http://www.vag-com-espanol.com/EN_SFD-Manual_for_UMB.pdf

so basically, instead of the classic 20103/31347, you need all auth tokens to the SFD backend

i'm not sure what you'd really call the token though, people say auth/handshake/session key...

[grave night]

Wanna see something horrific

[odd talon]

@low carbon bummer! so is VCDS useless for newer cars?

[low carbon]

MQB evo cars like Golf Mk8 onwards yes

Maybe not useless but you can’t do nearly as much

[fathom socket]

Looks good to me

[dense shard]

VCDS?

[charred depot]

a high quality piece of diagnostic software for vag cars

[dense shard]

Sounds like proprietary expensive subscription based software.

[patent basalt]

Found why the Volvo was shaking under accel

Had my best workers on the job

[stoic ledge]

You can get some China clones for like 20 bucks

[low carbon]

those are shit and can only be used for basic diagnostics

obdeleven is the most cost effective route for coding vw group cars, but ios support wasn't available when i was getting coding equipment

[stoic ledge]

I still have one 👀

[warm sparrow]

meh remi gaillard ....

[low carbon]

He’s great!

[pearl tiger]

I just need vcds for key relearn

[wooden cargo]

Agreed

It’s resolved issues for me

Also been able to tweak my diff and TCS settings

[flint sable]

10 grand for a mach 1?!

[civic spoke]

$9,900 is not 10k. Smh

[flint sable]

ok fine 9.9k for a mach 1?!

[civic spoke]

I don't know if that is a good, or a bad price. Seems to be decent from the quick search I did.

[dense shard]

More interested in the Thunderbird on the left.

[flint sable]

We had a blue one that ended up selling for around 27k iirc, but it was still dealer prepped and in perfect condition so that contributed a lot

[sturdy solar]

Its not exactly.. yellow

Sick mustang tho, I'd buy it

[flint sable]

Competition orange

Mach 1

[fathom socket]

I'm confused

Weren't Mach 1 mustangs the original mustangs from the late 60s

[sturdy solar]

Yeah arent the ones on the pic mach 4's?

[south jewel]

Season three of Formula 1: Drive to Survive is just so much fun. The first episode felt like a crazy movie time capsule in which you watch a world fall into pandemic

https://www.netflix.com/title/80204890

[south jewel]

Damn. I'm looking forward to the new season!

[stable grotto]

i though the hand was going to get sucked in

[orchid lance]

it's many

[harsh nymph]

unpopular opinion but it is the same stuff every year, just repeats the races imo

[wooden cargo]

Same with tech tbh

[harsh nymph]

i can agree with that

[flint sable]

Oh schöne!

Love the carerra 4 with the aero kit

[drowsy surge]

some civic pictures for your eyeballs

[fast grotto]

I'm not seeing enough ugly Priuses

[solemn inlet]

She makes a hole 36hp

[frank steeple]

oh no

[civic girder]

Yea that's ugly alright

[civic girder]

My Prius is nice.

[frozen adder]

How baller is a 88 Toyota Supra?

[hollow stratus]

Less than a 1993 but way more than a 2019.

[dense shard]

What's wrong with the 2019?

It's hella baller

[hollow stratus]

It's a BMW Z4 underneath which really isn't a cool car.

[dense shard]

It's an excellent engine, excellent transmission, nice styling, and great performance

And it's built by Magna Steyr which is ultra cool

[hollow stratus]

it's just my personal opinion and I don't disagree with any of your points but it doesn't have the same street cred as the old jz supras imo

[dense shard]

The old Supras only real claim is making stupid power and being overpriced on the second hand market.

The B58 in the new Supra is every bit as potent.

I honestly think the 90s Supras have attained a reputation so overblown it makes Tesla owners seem humble.

[hollow stratus]

Yeah I see your point. I guess I just think if I wanted a BMW I'd buy one.

[dense shard]

Might have a better dealer experience.

But I've come to accept this new reality. Alternative is no Supra or GT86

and it beats Toyota going to Ford or GM.

Looking at you Honda

Turns out GM will be making Honda and Acura EVs in the near future

[hollow stratus]

Ford's are pretty good, GM aren't. Lucky we don't have them in the UK anymore they sold up to psa

[dense shard]

Fords don't have a good rep in the US

[hollow stratus]

They not to bad in the UK. But that's probably because they have always being compared to GM's Vauxhall which are a meme at this point 😅

[fathom socket]

What

Since when

[dense shard]

At least since the 70s

[fathom socket]

Their reputation is not bad

[dense shard]

The EcoSport is tragic.

[hollow stratus]

I thought Chevrolet was the laughing stock

[dense shard]

Chevy isn't much better

[fathom socket]

Ford supplies a lot of fleet vehicles

And non commercial vehicles

[dense shard]

That's not a great defense.

Fleet vehicles are often a sign of cheapness and attempting to pad sales figures.

[frank steeple]

rip mercury

[fathom socket]

Look at the amount of non fleet vehicles on the road even

[hollow stratus]

EcoSport? I got a Mondeo (fusion in the us) with a 1.5 ecoboost as a company car, it's decent enough

[dense shard]

The Fusion was great on release

But Ford didn't follow up.

[frank steeple]

my dad has the energi titanium fusion which he loves

it likes to break though

[dense shard]

Everyone else ended up releasing more compelling products

[frank steeple]

ford doesn't really have good quality parts