cars

[split notch]

maybe it is 90hp

idk

[fathom socket]

What about

[split notch]

its slow

[fathom socket]

Cars that had 16 hp

Or 22

It don't remember

But there are plenty of cars on road that have less than 30 hp here

[stoic ledge]

126p? 😛

[fathom socket]

Sadly not

[split notch]

then the 340hp

[fathom socket]

A lot of 126p were destroyed by idiot millenials

[split notch]

I'd love a 126p

[stoic ledge]

😢

[fathom socket]

When they were cheap

And now they are super rare

[split notch]

Can get them for like 2200zl

[fathom socket]

Mostly it's cinquecento and Seicento

[fathom socket]

Didn't they cost like 300 PLN

[split notch]

I mean a different 126p

[stoic ledge]

So basically what happened to all DAF's here 😢

[split notch]

Well the price varies

[stoic ledge]

Everybody used to own them, now they're rare AF

[split notch]

the ones that people are willing to bring to the UK are like 2200zl

They aren't rare

[stoic ledge]

99.9% died in reverse driving races lol

[split notch]

My friend in Lodz has like 4

[fathom socket]

I have 0

[stoic ledge]

👀

[fathom socket]

But I have a Ford Focus that is worth less than a 126p

[stoic ledge]

Isn't that with every Focus when it rolls of the assembly line?

Runs

[split notch]

There's a great "Meanwhile in Poland" video with lots of 126ps

[stoic ledge]

Jk, they can be quite nice

[split notch]

it also has that cool church organ Coco Jambo cover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwtu0BfezYU

[fathom socket]

Here's fiat 126

Only seen 2 in my life

[split notch]

yeah at time stamp 1:26 (fitting lmao)

is it really poland if you aren't exclaiming ja pierdole and kurwa every sentence

[fathom socket]

Wróbel

You will hear from me every time

I'm born i and Poland

But I'm very unpolish

Doesn't seem to have those bug eyes vents

[drowsy surge]

my baby

taken on an iphone 8 btw

[flint sable]

Very nice

[fringe lake]

no widebody kit/stance?

Dunno why one would buy a civic/city in this economy

[gray jetty]

best car ever

[fringe lake]

LOOK AT DEM CURVES

[stoic ledge]

From the time when cardesign was actually interesting and innovative

[wet pine]

my music teacher has a multipla

[eager grove]

Interesting and innovative

is a funny way of saying 'fuck ugly'

From the era that brought you this megane

[wet pine]

why did i take a picture of the lidl sign-

[eager grove]

Not sure if this is an unpopular opinion, though car design is more derivative and less distinctive now, new cars look so much better than they ever

have

I remember in about 2007 trying to work out which car I liked the look of the most, and I hated the back end of literally every car I could think of

[wet pine]

I agree

[eager grove]

all so round and bubbly

[wet pine]

2007 gt3

thats sick

[wet pine]

honestly i don't like either of them, but I get what you are trying to explain

[wet pine]

my favorite cars are still porsches

if I'd have to pick 1 car, it'd be this

[eager grove]

I have a thing about spoilers

I don't think I could drive a car with a wing like that without feeling like an absolutely ridiculous douchebag

[fallen falcon]

mobility scooters do exist, it's called a crazy electric bike

you don't even spin it, they come with like 1000W

and reach inane speeds.

[wet pine]

GT3RS wing is even bigger

but I don't like that

[fallen falcon]

also i hate most porsches

they have garbage reliability on a lot of their cars

[wet pine]

can confirm, dad has a porsche and it's true

[fallen falcon]

audi is a whole different story tho

[wet pine]

And maintenance is expensive

[fallen falcon]

i love audi because they make all forms of decent cars

just the maintenance is expensive

[wet pine]

I really like audi too

my favorite of them is probably the new RS6 C8

[fallen falcon]

yeah the whole back axle movements and stuff

i saw one down the highway passing every car like a crazy ass person would do

i'm more interested in the lower end stuff tho

like 3.2 FSI, and 3.0 supercharged S4

[wet pine]

i like to set impossible and unreachable goals for myself

idk why

[fallen falcon]

we might buy a 3.2 FSI A4 quattro one day

would be a decent change from our 2.0 TFSI, as second car.

[fathom socket]

I just drive an off brand vw

[fallen falcon]

skoda used to be better, well sometimes they're still good but like, IDK

we went to a dealer with mom once, the cars were too plasticy on the interiors

octavia, superb, etc.. all plastic everywhere cheap plastic i mean.

just felt low quality

seat might be a better go.

[eager grove]

latest gen skodas are pretty good

[fallen falcon]

might be, haven't kept up

[indigo coral]

🐐 because its not expensive as hell to maintain

Lol

[fallen falcon]

lexus good

[stoic ledge]

[fallen falcon]

IS AWD

4x4, 8-speed ZF i think

[indigo coral]

They're bringing a V8 back to the IS

[fallen falcon]

meh

[indigo coral]

IS 500 F Sport iirc

[fallen falcon]

the V6s do the job great

i don't like too loud, and get copped out of nowhere..

[indigo coral]

That's true, but it's nice to see someone still putting V8s in stuff that isn't Dodge

[fallen falcon]

old school lexus'es went better with V8s

like the LS yeh

[indigo coral]

the IS F is still holding its value really well

30k+ for a 2008

[fallen falcon]

yeah, unlike infiniti

2008 sucks tho

[indigo coral]

All of the real F cars are expensive pretty much

except the RC F

it's depreciating

because its meh

[fallen falcon]

it's like buying a lambo when it comes to buying old stuff

[indigo coral]

LC is beautiful but people aren't buying it so its depreciating too Lol

[fallen falcon]

seemingly people ask insane prices just because it has some form of custom package value

LC looks nice

[indigo coral]

My 1999 RX 300 is worth 40k because its a special colour /s

[fallen falcon]

not sure how practical tho...

[indigo coral]

haha its not remotely practical

[fallen falcon]

yeah...

[indigo coral]

effectively a 2 seater (regardless of what lexus says)

it has "back seats" but they're the typical useless coupe ones

[fallen falcon]

not all coupe back seats are useless, but like.. G37 back seats are a meme

A5 prolly much better.

[indigo coral]

they're lil tiny seats

[fallen falcon]

i'm definitely not digging those rear side windows either..

blind spots suck.

[indigo coral]

tbh that's one thing my old RX does well

has really really good visibility

(yes I know they're not remotely the same car )

[fallen falcon]

our A4 has decently well visibility as well

you gotta be snappy tho, like, jump from one side to the other

especially during the night time, because it has no smoked side mirrors.

[indigo coral]

my mom's Explorer has terrible visibility out the back

[fallen falcon]

then again we're driving it in istanbul so it's worse than LA

thing is much easier to drive on an empty road

like.. obviously

[indigo coral]

yeah

[eager grove]

I don't understand why they even put back seats in like that

[indigo coral]

tbh i don't even know

the whole insurance thing is a myth

[eager grove]

Like even for kids it doesn't make sense

because kids need car seats or legroom

neither of which you have in a Mustang

[indigo coral]

I've heard the thing about "it's cheaper to insure if it has 4 seats" but that's been soundly debunked

insurance companies aren't stupid

[fallen falcon]

that LC back side has no izofix

[indigo coral]

yeah its certainly not a practical car

[fallen falcon]

you want that for mounting a baby seat

[indigo coral]

I'd totally buy one if I could though, since I already have a practical RX

[eager grove]

I don't ever want a car like that

[fallen falcon]

same.

but like, if you buy that, it's guaranteed you'll sell it once you deal with family and kids stuff..

[eager grove]

Plus I really like the A5/S5/RS5 sportback

so if I wanted a coupey looking car

I'd just get the sportback

or an Arteon

or a 4 series

[fallen falcon]

S5 is baller in the coupe form

[indigo coral]

well my real dream car would be a GS F but those don't depreciate

the LC is depreciating fast

[eager grove]

I actually prefer the look of the sportback

The RS5 sportback to me is kind of an awesome sweetspot in car form

it looks cool with a swoopy back end

but it also has enough space for people and things

it's fast as fuck

but not toooooo thirsty

[indigo coral]

[eager grove]

They actually look quite similar

[indigo coral]

ye, the GS F doesn't have the swoopy back though

[eager grove]

I prefer the grille on the Audi, and it has a hatchback

which is :chefskiss:

[indigo coral]

GS F is a normal sedan

[eager grove]

I prefer both the swoopy back end, and having a hatch over a trunk

[indigo coral]

that's actually a gs 350 but whatever

same rear end

one thing about GS F that

is really appealing to me is the lack of turbo/superchargers

[eager grove]

If I had infinity money, and did too many miles for a Tesla, the RS5 sportback is what I'd daily

[indigo coral]

naturally aspirated 5 litre V8

Tried and tested, reliable as hell

[eager grove]

Yeah, it's true.

THough the Turbo V6 in the Audi is pretty reliable, as I understand it

[indigo coral]

Certainly better than BMW

[eager grove]

the maintenance cost I think is mostly like the ceramic disks and shit

I'm mostly talking out of my ass

but my understanding is the BMW V8s are more reliable, but the Audi V6 is more reliable than the I6 in the BMWs

[indigo coral]

By far the biggest shortcoming (imo, and having not driven it yet) of the GS F would be the infotainment system

that shits terrible

but there's hard buttons for everything so

For being what it is, its actually... surprisingly decent highway fuel economy

People seem to be getting like 24-28mpg highway which (imo) is pretty solid for a car like that

[charred depot]

anything can be reliable if you are willing to put enough money into premptive maintenance

[fathom socket]

Check engine light come up again

I think it's most likely emmisions related

[fallen falcon]

if you have infinity money, you buy infiniti xD

the sportbacks are a bit too large IMHO, i prefer the S4 and the coupe S5

though those ACC sensors on both sides are baller

perfect for preventing head on crashes

though those usually come with an another issue, the beep sound that makes you brake too fast, and another person rams to you from the back.. possibly.

[low carbon]

s4 isn't as fast as the m340i or c43

if it were my money i'd be getting the c43 probably

[fathom socket]

Also

My car has a high pitched wissle

Under heavy load at 3k rpm

[fallen falcon]

lol, who cares, S4 is still fast as heck,

also it's a whole lot more better than those other two vehicles

DSG shifts the gears in a whim

no way i'm getting a BMW or C43 over an S4.

[drowsy surge]

wdym

[fringe lake]

Idk to me there are better options out there

[drowsy surge]

it’s a civic

you literally cant go wrong with a civic

i wanted a reliable car with good fuel economy, not something that’s gonna drain my bank account every time i drive it

and it was an amazing deal

57k miles

[eager grove]

Lol, they're 4cm longer

and 1mm wider

[fringe lake]

Fair point

[fathom socket]

you can at least here

[fallen falcon]

i mean the whole sportback / notchback concept is not that excellent

it's fast, aero but i don't dig the roof coming down on top to the back seats

[eager grove]

You been in the back of one? Fine unless you’re like 6’2

[fallen falcon]

i'm like around 6, maybe a tiny bit couple cms above

i prefer your average sedan type a bit more

[eager grove]

Yeah - you just said it was too big

lack of rear space is a different issue

[fallen falcon]

from the bottom of the car to the roof, it's not too big

i was talking about the whole car when i said a bit too big

sportback has a higher turning circle coming to think of it.

our A4 is already not the best parking car

like give me a hot hatch with torsen.. 🙂

[eager grove]

I just think they're dope. I think practicality would win out and I'd get a Golf R wagon instead as I said the other day

[fallen falcon]

golf R is haldex tho, no point

[eager grove]

almost as quick, way more practical, more rear seat headroom (but less legroom)

[fallen falcon]

%90 of the power on the front, overheats and becomes even worse

the AWD system is garbo

[eager grove]

I don't give a shit about any of that

[fallen falcon]

well then get a FWD one

you're paying more for the cheesy AWD

[eager grove]

I'm paying more for the 150 extra horsepower

[fallen falcon]

yeah but how reliably it puts that power down to the floor?

[eager grove]

More reliably than the 1.5TSI that's the next biggest petrol engine?

[fallen falcon]

it's going to be harder to drive

[eager grove]

that can't possibly be true.

[fallen falcon]

there are literally tons of different VAG vehicles

[eager grove]

The Golf R wagons get great reviews for ease of driving

[fallen falcon]

i'm not only taking the new blocks as example

because they're paid reviews

[eager grove]

Conspiracy hat on

[fallen falcon]

no i'm talking for real.

[eager grove]

Like if you're pushing it as hard as you can

[fallen falcon]

all that haldex is adding to the total cost of the car.

also as i recall haldex fixing is not low on your wallet..

[eager grove]

You're probably right

but you can pick up Golf R wagons used for like...£15k

given the combination of performance and practicality

[fallen falcon]

i wouldn't deal with it, simply knowing the overheating issues of the AWD system but like

yeah it's fine

[eager grove]

even if you factor in maintenance

[fallen falcon]

but still too expensive

i mean you can get other cars

why not like.. get a wagon A4?

[eager grove]

Golf has a way bigger boot

20% larger

and it's shorter and narrower

so it's easier to park etc

TBH I probably will get a A4 estate eventually

[fallen falcon]

except FWD cars are not the easiest park..

especially when the vehicles are wagon

or just tall like the old cadillac DTS

A4 estate will likely be your best bet

[eager grove]

The Golf wagon is like 20cm shorter than the A4 estate--that's going to be easier to get into a multi story car parking space

even if it is mostly FWD

[fallen falcon]

it's not just about 20cm tho, yes

[eager grove]

I'd want an AWD Audi

[fallen falcon]

the back side of wagons with front wheel drive bias are bad

like if you're sitting on the back, you'll shake left to right

[eager grove]

I've only ever driven FWD hatchbacks

[fallen falcon]

i've been to a volvo of that sort, it was crap

like as if i'm sitting on the back of an off-road vehicle

down a mountain or something a bit.

[eager grove]

It doesn't matter much

LIke the kind of driving I do

[fallen falcon]

yeah since you would be the one driving it

[eager grove]

it's going to make so little odds

[fallen falcon]

i'd put the money to an A4 quattro tho

[eager grove]

my drive way is pretty short

[fallen falcon]

not just because we have one, but because of it being nice as an all around car

get a B8 too while at it, B9 AWD is not all that great

[eager grove]

When does B8 end and B9 begin?

[fallen falcon]

like any 2013 and above with the 2.0 TFSI

B8 ended with 2015

B9 started around 2015 and above

[eager grove]

My wife thinks that Audi drivers are wankers

so unlikely to let me buy one 😂

[fallen falcon]

it's probably because the cars are expensive and the owners go fast

the sad image of it

[eager grove]

oh yeah, 100%

[fallen falcon]

i used to drive like a madman but i no longer even fully pedal it

you learn from your mistakes after a while lol

[eager grove]

Yeah. I tried hooning it in a 1.2 Honda Jazz

did a 180 kick flip

that was the end of that

[fallen falcon]

ours is a luxury package

[eager grove]

I have two small children now, so I drive a bit more carefully

[fallen falcon]

you can tell from the rims and the ACC kinda

[eager grove]

Nice

The Golf R wagons seem to be losing their value more quickly than the Audis

so you can get a nicer one second hand for the same money

[fallen falcon]

there are isofix'es on both seats on the back of this

so you can mount two child seats.

[eager grove]

True of all cars manufactured after 2011

[fallen falcon]

yeah this is a 2011 btw, went to traffic during summer of 2011

as what the paper says.

[eager grove]

I have a 2011 Seat Leon

[fallen falcon]

so it dealt with the oil issues, i checked over engine code

[eager grove]

pile of shite

it's fine really

[fallen falcon]

but it doesn't burn oil at all anymore

oil is always on top when i check from infotainment, recently went to service.

[eager grove]

I just want something with leather seats, a bigger boot and an actual infotainment system, and can do 0-60 in under 8 seconds

[fallen falcon]

grab a 225 HP one, like 2012 and above

the older ones are 211 HP with the oil issues.

[eager grove]

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202102128998382

[fallen falcon]

not in for the nappa leather seats

[eager grove]

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202102199259787

[fallen falcon]

the ones on ours are made out of dear leather

[eager grove]

To be honest, if I was actually spending money on a new car now it would be this one https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202011266514020

yes it has 4motion instead of quattro, but I don't think I'm going to overheat the Haldex just driving along

[fallen falcon]

you prolly want these seats.

[eager grove]

I do

[fallen falcon]

or the better ones

yeah the passats or golfs normally don't come with these

they save the better seats for audi

the one you posted was nice, except for the seats

those nappa-kind stuff are the default seats, executive / limo etc packages come with the seats we have on ours.

[eager grove]

wipe clean leather seats suit me. I expect they're vastly more comfortable than the shitty ones in the Leon

[fallen falcon]

yeah, easy to clean as well.

[eager grove]

With 2 sticky children and one sticky grown up, that's essential

[stoic ledge]

I've never seen the appeal of leather seats imho

[fallen falcon]

it's just a better feeling seat

especially with perforated cooling

[stoic ledge]

I actually don't think leather seats feel better (personal opinion)

[fallen falcon]

https://www.arnoldclark.com/used-cars/ref/ARNCN-U-114729/?aid=424453&utm_source=motorscouknetwork_parkers&utm_medium=motors_network&utm_campaign=motors_network

this might do it..

[uncut citrus]

Ew a diesel

[fallen falcon]

diesels are far more reliable on the audi end 🙂

[uncut citrus]

No

[fallen falcon]

also you're carrying stuff so, yes

[uncut citrus]

Buy a v10 estate audi

[fallen falcon]

https://www.shopdap.com/blog/post/audi-2-0t-tsi-common-problems.html

[uncut citrus]

Less price more power

[fallen falcon]

he can't afford the insurance on that

also it's gonna be loud, i don't like that

[uncut citrus]

Noob

[fallen falcon]

no you 🙂

[uncut citrus]

U r dad

[fallen falcon]

dad is gud

[uncut citrus]

No u are a dad like person

[fallen falcon]

the car's point is A to B

[uncut citrus]

Bo

[fallen falcon]

i'm fine with 252 HP 🙂

[uncut citrus]

Noob

Ewww

[fallen falcon]

my no you shield is up.

nice 🙂

[uncut citrus]

I do chatt with dads

[fallen falcon]

some dad cars for ya

[uncut citrus]

I have a W220 c63

[fallen falcon]

to blast dad rock with..

smirk.

great, you own a glorified C250 xD

[uncut citrus]

U cant handle the power

[fallen falcon]

noyou.

[uncut citrus]

It has a v8

Lol

[fallen falcon]

basically nothing more than a glorified C300

it's a block on the reliable end but still a trash car

[uncut citrus]

With 600+hp

[fallen falcon]

yeah

[uncut citrus]

Get out

[fallen falcon]

i'm good thank you 🙂

[uncut citrus]

Bye

[fallen falcon]

yeah i was about to head out

couldn't handle the spam..

[civic girder]

That's how you know your o-rings were bad I guess

[stoic ledge]

Nah chunks are made to make it easier to put them together

[hearty anvil]

Anyone know anything about electric motors plz dm me I need help

[fathom socket]

I might be rebuilding a ford 335 in my shed in my backyard

So uhh

That might be chaotic or great

[fallen falcon]

i know some stuff about EVs

you doing the old ford tractor or a 335 to a car or truck?

[fathom socket]

I don't have any vehicle yet

Just the engine

So we'll see what I can get

It'd be cool if I could get an old maverick or something

[fallen falcon]

mercury maybe

[fathom socket]

yeah

I wanna say I have the 302 but I don't remember

i dont think it has run in a good 20 years

and it has been sitting in what is a essentially a lean-to on a tire

over sand

[fathom socket]

i know it came out of a truck

i think it was a 3/4 ton

so it might not be a 302

[split notch]

Fuckin, Nissan

Making shit overly complicated

[karmic verge]

What am I lookin at?

[split notch]

My 3rd aftermarket steering wheel kit

Trying to trick my car into making its horn work

[karmic verge]

Oh...?

[fallen falcon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkM4FviwMIc

i suppose this might actually work on crapper cars

i bought it for our A4, never used 😄

[charred depot]

My oil filter was rusty and a fram

Oh noo

[civic girder]

Yikes

A one two knock out, literally

[charred depot]

I thought my front left tie rod was blown as thats the one i usually smack into potholes

front right is actually terrible

front left is a tiny bit of play

[wet pine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCKFyrBDLWw

I find this very cool

[zinc bolt]

rip tires.... and clutch

[fallen falcon]

one way ticket to hell and back..

at least turn on the interior lights so you don't end up with such a poor video

[zinc bolt]

they aren’t working rn unfortunately

[fallen falcon]

well then have the electronics fixed 🙂

shouldn't cost a lot..

[low carbon]

current gen has the same zf 8 speed as the m340i..

[fallen falcon]

DSG > ZF

[low carbon]

agree

all my cars are currently dsg

but im not going to buy a porsche panamera just to get a powerful car with a dual clutch

[fallen falcon]

S4 exists, you know.

[low carbon]

the b9 s4 has a zf you mongol

[fallen falcon]

i see somebody is triggered for no actual reason

sad

try B8.5

[low carbon]

why would you compare a generation old car to the m340i/c43?

[fallen falcon]

because it handles and shifts better

lmao

[low carbon]

then why would audi start using the zf 8hp then?

[fallen falcon]

audi cheaped out on B9

[low carbon]

lmao

[fallen falcon]

they went for a cheesy AWD compared to the torsen

you clearly have no idea what you're on about.

[low carbon]

cheesy awd?

[fallen falcon]

A4 you mongol.

go look it up

[low carbon]

you clearly have no idea what you're talking about

[fallen falcon]

you're the one without a clue

[low carbon]

all the 6cyl a4s have torsen awd systems

[fallen falcon]

B9 has crapper AWD than the old B8 torsen

[low carbon]

only lower powered ones have the quattro ultra system

[fallen falcon]

the AWD system on those suck

also the guy behind audi is saying they'll deliver EVs with LESS range

he's a douche.

a lot of their cars will be replaced with electric equivalents

they said they'll no more make ICE A4s and stuff.

[low carbon]

lmao

[fallen falcon]

maybe actually go read the news

and laugh at your own ignorance.

[low carbon]

maybe be informed before trying to sound like a complete smartass

[fallen falcon]

i am

you're not.

blocked.

[low carbon]

lol what a baby

@eager grove look at this child

has absolutely no idea what they're talking about. then when they get disproven, blocked...what a joke

[eager grove]

Yeah, I dunno. You shouldn't call people mongols though

[low carbon]

ok, idiot then

how's the car searching going?

[eager grove]

This cat was telling me that 4WD systems on all Golf R wagons overheats and dies

[low carbon]

lol - they recommend the basic leather seats in the b8 a4. they're just as bad as the base leather seats in the passat, you'll slide off the seat base when taking corners with any speed. you can tell he's one of those guys that only likes one brand (audi) and will talk shit about everything else. like really, calling a c63 a c300 with a different engine?

that's just like saying an rs4 is just an a4 with a bigger engine

[low carbon]

lol. haldex is actually a good awd system compared to other fwd biased ones, especially the new gen6 system

my haldex did need a software update while in my ownership though

rs4 is an awesome daily though but i couldn't find a good setting with the standard drc suspension. at the time you couldn't order it with standard suspension so decided against ordering

oh. and it has a proper quattro system and zf torque converter unlike what that kid was saying

[stoic ledge]

Kek no

ZF 8HP > all

[eager grove]

He also said he'd want an S4 vs an S5 because the S5 was too big

and I was like

it's 4cm longer

[low carbon]

must be a child

[low carbon]

doesn't know the difference between quattro and quattro ultra, so just says the generation with both is 'not all that great'

[low carbon]

that also makes zero sense

[low carbon]

what is a block???

[low carbon]

conspiracy theorist lol

what does that have to do with the efficacy of the front assist system? guess what - if the 'basic' MRR single radar system was unsafe, it wouldn't be used

honestly, imagine being this confidently ignorant. must be an easy life

[eager grove]

I thought that FWD hard to park thing sounded like bollocks

paid reviews, i KNOW that's bollocks

[low carbon]

and he has the audacity to get all 'i know everything, you're the ignorant one here' rubbish and block me

absolutely laughable

btw, what are prices like on the c7 a6's there?

[eager grove]

What dates are C7?

There's a wagon for £13k

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202102249428924

2012

Pretty quick too

[stoic ledge]

Lol that looks odly cheap imho

[eager grove]

Yeah I think so

usually think they're closer to 15 or 20

especially with less than 100k miles on the clock

[low carbon]

yep, take a look at them

haven't driven a 'normal' one tho, only the s6. twin turbo v8 with s-tronic was a bloody hoot

[eager grove]

Yeah that one is suspiciously cheap

[low carbon]

love me some dual clutch

[stoic ledge]

I wouldn't trust it for that "cheap" lol

[eager grove]

but It's the only petrol one from that generation

so I think it's just a rarity

[low carbon]

no 2.0?

[eager grove]

Don't think we got the petrol 2.0

[low carbon]

interesting

[stoic ledge]

I think it came later, like in 2015

[low carbon]

ah right, the c7.5

[stoic ledge]

Ah no it was also there in 2012 my bad, only the lower power output tho

[eager grove]

None of those on auto trader - no wagons at least

[stoic ledge]

180hp

[low carbon]

ahh

there were ones with 252hp

[eager grove]

next newest one is 2018

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202102259482651

[low carbon]

honestly the tdi ones are good tho

[eager grove]

Only one saloon

[low carbon]

3.0 tdi

[eager grove]

I don't do enough miles for a diseasel

[low carbon]

enough miles as in?

what's the price difference per litre?

[eager grove]

I'd kill a diesel engine

[low carbon]

why?

[eager grove]

too many short journeys not enough long trips

[stoic ledge]

Yeah thosr are from 2015 as far as I can see

[eager grove]

advice is go diesel if you do 12kmiles a year

[low carbon]

i do heaps of short journeys with my kodiaq rs and no issues

[eager grove]

how many miles you do a year?

[low carbon]

about 10k

if you do any regular highway miles (like 30min a week) it's perfectly fine to have a diesel imo

[eager grove]

yeah, I just don't

so it'd get all gummed up with sludge between trips to my in laws

plus they're trying to ban diesels where I live

so not smart

[low carbon]

lol yeah forgot

diesel bad petrol good

[eager grove]

getting a fast diesel would be fun if I had a long commute

[low carbon]

the torque is why i have no issues with modern diesel

[eager grove]

yeah man

[low carbon]

prior to the kodiaqs, my only experience with diesels have been utes

[eager grove]

saw a review of a 435d Gran Coupe

guy was getting close to 50mpg in something that was a proper weapon

[low carbon]

when they first landed i drove the 180hp tsi and 190hp tdi and was absolutely hooked on the tdi

[eager grove]

what car?

[low carbon]

the kodiaq

but then i got the golf so had to upgrade from the standard kodiaq because it was too slow lol

500nm is about enough torque for me. kodiaq rs is 500nm and my golf is 470nm

[eager grove]

I haven't driven enough cars

[low carbon]

but yep the jump in refinement going from a 4cyl diesel to 6cyl is massive

[eager grove]

to know when I would want a higher HP car or a higher torque one

yeah I wouldn't want a 4cyl diesel

we were thinking of moving to the country

[low carbon]

depends. the vw bitdi is a cracker of an engine

[eager grove]

if I was gonna get a diesel

I'd want it to be fast

[low carbon]

tuned you're making golf r power but with way more torque

[eager grove]

I just don't know what a high HP/low torque car feels like compared to a low HP/high torque car

[low carbon]

like if the kodiaq rs being a boat with that bitdi is fine to me with a 4.3s 0-100 golf r, then it's fine lol

ea888 = best of both worlds

when in boost, it feels like you're got that sweet mid-range rev from a diesel

but being a turbopetrol, instead of having that pull for around 1500rpm, it's around most of the rev range

a proper 'performance' diesel is a multi turbo 6cyl imo. i've driven range rover sports and touaregs in v6 and v8 diesel form, and the v6s do noticeably handle better due to the lighter front end. of course, the v6s don't pull as much but any high powered one is honestly powerful enough

you've gotta drive a 535d or a6 bitdi

[eager grove]

I don't think I've driven a diesel since i got my licence

14 years ago lol

[low carbon]

should try a new one

but not brand new, i've driven a q8 with the 50 tdi v6 and its horribly laggy

[eager grove]

I learned in a diesel, but it kept speeding up when I went round corners slowly in too high gear

[low carbon]

hahaha

just gotta send it

i'd like to upgrade from my kodiaq rs to an x5, but there's no 'middle of the road' diesel available

[eager grove]

the plugin hybrid X5 is the one to have

that thing is badass

[low carbon]

nah not my thing

i have too much mechanical sympathy to beat on a cold engine when its needed

[eager grove]

meh

We'll see how they age I guess

[low carbon]

i don't really get why manufacturers don't put install block heaters in phevs

[eager grove]

yeah that is dumb

[low carbon]

wouldn't cost that much

but yes, in the luxury suv market it's the best there is

[eager grove]

in the plug in hybrid market it's the best there is

[low carbon]

nah

audi's 60 tfsi e

[eager grove]

55 innit?

[low carbon]

there's both

[eager grove]

and the battery isn't big enough

[low carbon]

q7 gets the 60

50/55 = 2.0, 60 = 3.0

[eager grove]

the X5 has proper range, even when it's cold. Only problem is the charging speed

[low carbon]

yep

so stupid "to protect the german domestic power grid"

what a stupid excuse

[eager grove]

literally the dumbest thing I've ever heard

that'll teach them for closing all their fecking nuclear power stations

so so so dumb

but you can commute all week on a single electric charge

[low carbon]

my biggest pet peeve with the x5 is that the side sill isn't covered

so annoying, i had one for a few days last winter and had to wash all my pants

[eager grove]

and then on a long journey you have electric for towns and stop start, and the V6 for the motorway

I've never owned an SUV but SUV drivers complain about that a lot

[low carbon]

not an issue on most though!

[eager grove]

I just can't imagine my trousers ever touching the damn car

[low carbon]

it seems to be a specific x5 problem

[eager grove]

Mat watson mentions it on every SUV review if it has it or doesn't

[low carbon]

most other brands make the side sill cover a part of a door unlike bmw

[eager grove]

My friend has a Hyundai Tuscon

same problem

I think the way I climb in and out of cars must be different because I can't imagine in mattering

[low carbon]

not sure how that would happen in a tuscon

https://youtu.be/RtpF4M6UDDE?t=153

its small oversights like that which is making me consider the gle instead over the x5

plus the 400d is available here unlike bmw's 40d

[fathom socket]

Here we go again

A doge ram taking 4 parking spaces

[tacit elm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/802663672924602388/810647023895707708/video0-11.mp4

[eager grove]

@low carbon I think I'd have the Q7 diesel, but the X5 plugin hybrid for me would be ideal as a pre-switch to electric car

[solemn inlet]

That car is worth $17000 obviously

[fathom socket]

I have a question

for how long my car should output white "smoke" from exhaust

or this is something that LPG conversion does

[stoic ledge]

At the start it's normal, mostly water vapor being evaporated

If it continues after half an hour of driving, it's likely a head gasket problem

[fathom socket]

I still see white smoke after driving for 20 minutes

but it doesn't seem to consume any coolant

unless I have a puddle in my muffler

[charred depot]

mmlovely oil

[charred depot]

through the most exquisite fram filter

[fathom socket]

Wait

Wat

[charred depot]

i did a oil change on my poor car

whilst it was in the air i discovered that the right tie rod end is toast, i thought the vibration noise was just the interior panels but no.

[fathom socket]

Windsor vs Cleveland vs FE

Which would be the best to build

I have one of them but I'm not sure which one

It also could be a 400

Based on research I could get at least 500 hp out of each one

But which would be the cheapest

[fathom socket]

F

[surreal ermine]

Interior of my Silvia

[frank steeple]

is that the original radio too?

[surreal ermine]

yes sir

[frank steeple]

wow

[surreal ermine]

It works too

[frank steeple]

even more wow

[surreal ermine]

The cassette player as well

[frank steeple]

when i bought my car, it came with an aftermarket radio from the early 80s

my car is from 67

[surreal ermine]

What car?

[frank steeple]

a 1967 Mercury Cougar

[surreal ermine]

Damn!

mine from 89

[frank steeple]

that would be an incredibly rare find in america

all of them pretty much got destroyed after the fast and the furious movies came out

[surreal ermine]

Well, it has 49k miles

They are rare here in EU. Regardless of condition

[frank steeple]

oh, ok

my car is even pretty rare in america where it was domestically sold

only about 2% of the ones made are still on the road

[surreal ermine]

Wow, how does it drive?

[frank steeple]

well the thing is i'm not exactly old enough to drive it, my dad and i have been restoring it for a good majority of my life

it will be mine when i'm 16

[surreal ermine]

Ohh, that's nice!

[frank steeple]

but from the limited times i've driven it, it drives really well, the only thing i don't like about it is how heavy the steering is

everything mechanical is pretty much brand new

[fathom socket]

Do you own that cougar?

[frank steeple]

it's in my dad's title because insurance would be crazy expensive if i owned it

it will be in my name when i'm 18

[fathom socket]

Right now I think I'm going to build a ford engine (still not sure what it is yet) and find some old roller to put it in

It'd be cool if I could find a maverick or a fox body or something

[frank steeple]

my dad owned a 76 maverick

it was his 1st car, but it was an inline 6

[fathom socket]

The engine that I have is either a late windsor, a cleveland, an FE, or a 400

I think it came out of an f250 from the late 60s to mid 70s

[surreal ermine]

My plan was to get a car and work on it with my dad as well. But we got the silvia and there's nothing to work on. I am 16 and here in EU you need to be 18 to drive. Big oof

[frank steeple]

oh

[frank steeple]

the engine we had in our cougar was a 289 windsor but it pretty much had a massive meltdown and cracked all over the place

a couple of years ago we sourced a heavily modified 289 that pretty much had all of the bells and whistles

that's what's in there now

the power band is 0 to 3,000 rpm so it has a lot of low end torque

[fathom socket]

I'm relatively sure I'm going to have to have the block of the engine I have now machined because it hasn't run in at least 10 years and it is sitting in a building with 3 walls

And I think it is seized

[frank steeple]

that's probably the case

can you turn the crank?

[fathom socket]

Not from when I tried

But I almost flipped it over

[frank steeple]

oh wow

it might be seized then

[fathom socket]

It's just a weather seize so it should be fixable

If it is a cleveland or a 400 I hear that they have some iffy casts so I won't get it overbored too far

If it is a 351M I'll have to get a crank

[frank steeple]

hmm

i'm kind of into japanese cars as well and i would like to own either a Toyota AE86 Sprinter Trueno or a Nissan Skyline BNR32 GT-R sometime

[surreal ermine]

I would like to own a r32 one day as well :))

[fathom socket]

I'm not into the JDM stuff

I'm the straight line American boat kinda person

[frank steeple]

just like my dad lol

but i'm slowly turning him

and also the reason why i got a cougar was because he had owned several cougars in the past so i thought they were really cool and wanted one as well

it's been a really fun journey restoring it

it used to be owned by some redneck in the midwest who built demo derby cars for living and when we bought it, it was pretty much stripped out so we were guessing he had plans to turn it into a demo derby car

luckily it didn't

[fathom socket]

351 Cleveland is what i have

Just found out

So if I put a crank in it I get a 400

Then I cam it

And do some valve work

A new intake and carb

And I think I could get approx 500 hp out of the stock heads and pistons

No

I will need pistons

400 pistons are taller I think

let me do some research

[frank steeple]

i don't think that's how it works

the number is how large the cylinders are in cubic inches

pistons from a 400 wouldn't fit in a 351 block

unless you bored out the cylinders

[fathom socket]

im gonna have it bored

i think about the farthest i could go is 4.040"

i can also get heads

we'll see which one is the cheaper option

[split notch]

imperial bore sizes

interesting.

[fathom socket]

1978 Ford

i think that is approximately 5.7 liters

and if i get it bored it would be about 6.6 liters

[low carbon]

q7 is too big for me tbh, don't want a 7 seater

i think the q7 is more than 5m long so instant no for me

[hard folio]

question, what mileage by your experience do Oxygen sensors go out?

[dense shard]

never

[fathom socket]

I don't have those

[hard folio]

ok den

[flint sable]

Lifespan on exhaust bearings?

[hard folio]

about 20 miles

[flint sable]

Gonna have to change them on the model S pretty often huh

[fathom socket]

If I end up building and keeping this 351 cleveland should I put it in a car (maverick or something) or a mini truck

[flint sable]

Mini truck

[fathom socket]

Mini truck would be cool because I could airbag it

But car would be faster

[flint sable]

Air suspension hmmm

Flashbacks to an R-class we had that was lopsided because both left shocks went

[fathom socket]

I probably wouldn't daily it

[thin wasp]

thoughts on the 2021 CLA 45S Amg

[low carbon]

nice if you drive on smooth roads

otherwise its really loud with the biggest wheels

[thin wasp]

tru but afterall its the fastest 4 cylinder so cant say no

[sturdy solar]

Just build in aftermarket powerstearing

If you really want to

[sturdy solar]

Do a fox body, fox bodys are the best

I own one myself

Currently being restored btw

[civic spoke]

I rather have something less hot, and more smoother riding.

[pearl tiger]

anyone recabled their subwoofer box (from car audio)?

[fathom socket]

Driving with trailer again

Can't wait for reverse perpendicular parking

[fathom socket]

How much fabrication will I need to do

[frank steeple]

We have a quick ratio steering system from a Shelby, I think that’s as aftermarket as you can get

[sturdy solar]

Lol

[sturdy solar]

Wdym

[frank steeple]

The first time the cougar has been in a Ford dealership in 54 years

[fathom socket]

It wouldn't just fit would it?

I would probably have to have custom engine mounts

[sturdy solar]

Oh

Well yeah, i dont think you will be able to fit a big block anyway, not sure

Idk what your plans are tho

[fathom socket]

I just want to make a cool engine and then make a cool car for as cheaply as I possibly can

[sturdy solar]

What engine are you planning on?

I can send you some pics of the engine bay on both sides to judge if you have enough space or not if you want @fathom socket

[fathom socket]

351 cleveland is what I believe I have

[sturdy solar]

Ah so a small block

I assume

[fathom socket]

I believe it is either a small block or a mid size block

[sturdy solar]

Should probably fit with some adjusting of as you said the engine mounts etc

[fathom socket]

Ok

[sturdy solar]

Depends on the headers you wanna put on it tho

[fathom socket]

I believe it has the same transmission mount/bell housing as a small block

[sturdy solar]

Long tube headers are tricky, only specific ones will fit probably, ones that are made for the stock 302

[fathom socket]

I could fabricate an exhaust if it comes to that

[sturdy solar]

Yeah

Or just use small low flow headers on it

Want some engine bay pics?

[fathom socket]

My plan should see this engine hitting 400-500 horsepower

Yes please

[sturdy solar]

Ok wait

Welp my internet is so bad here that it wont send the pics. I'll just keep em uploading i guess ull see when its done lol

Currently without headers on it tho @fathom socket

[fathom socket]

I could probably fit it

I will do some measuring

[sturdy solar]

Yea probably

[fathom socket]

This will be my first major project outside of tractors

So that will be interesting

[sturdy solar]

Indeed

[fathom socket]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/817811226926907394/819243706111885342/IMG20210310163416.jpg

wheel rust

wish I had sandblaster

[civic girder]

The Previa's rear brakes were fucked, it's no wonder the pedal felt like ass

Handbrake? More like that handle you have no idea what it does

But replaced shoes, wheel cylinders, and drums; and it's made a world of difference

Didn't replace the hardware, unfortunately. The kit I was sent had the correct part number, but had nothing for my car in it

So I will have to complain/return that, but I cba to take it all apart again for new hardware

[fathom socket]

I'm scared of touching drum brakes

[civic girder]

They're annoying, but not hard

The first time is the worst bc you're looking at an alien device. But every time after that it's simple, just time consuming and a pita

Doing the Previa's drums was dumb simple, but took me like 7 hours to do

[fathom socket]

I would have to replace my rear right caliper

[civic girder]

Lmao, ok bot

[fathom socket]

should I replace both or I can only do 1?

[civic girder]

Caliper? In a drum brake? What?

[fathom socket]

disc brake

[civic girder]

Oh

[fathom socket]

some handyman welded bleeder screw

[civic girder]

I mean, it'd be a good idea to replace or rebuild both calipers. Or replace one if it's toasted and rebuild the other so it's fresh.

That way you know both sides are good and you don't have to worry about impending doom from the old one

At least that's what I would do

[fathom socket]

I mean

basically both are good

it's just I can't bleed one of them because welded bolt

[civic girder]

Well, my thinking is that you have one side brand spanking new and the other side is god knows how old. I figure it'd be just my luck to do the brake job and replace the one caliper, and then the other caliper blows out and leaks brake fluid everywhere

[fathom socket]

or bleeder valve

[civic girder]

Why would you ever weld a bleeder screw in place lel

[fathom socket]

idk

some idiot before me did that

[civic girder]

I know, I'm just trying to understand the 10 billion iq who did it

[fathom socket]

I'm still finding surprises in my car

[civic girder]

What if you replaced the brake line? Like how would you bleed the caliper. Lmao, that's such a big brain play

[fathom socket]

at least it's not the front one

but come on

[civic girder]

Yea

[fathom socket]

at least I've passed brake test

even if I didn't bleed that brake

[civic girder]

It was great when I was taking apart the Previa's brakes. Fiddled with the shoes and then the wheel cylinder literally fell apart and leaked brake fluid everywhere

[fathom socket]

that doesn't sound good

[civic girder]

And I was just like "no wonder I have to floor the pedal to stop"

I'm not sure if that's worse than the RX-7's rear brakes were. The wheel cylinders were completely seized and would not move

I guess it's in a similar category, just one was less messy

[fathom socket]

my car needs so many things done to it

but my empty wallet can't do crap

[civic girder]

F

[fathom socket]

I need new calipers, new rear struts, replace steering rack, replace fender, fix water leaking inside car and probably something more

[civic girder]

I somehow find the money to fix 4 cars and still have leftovers for more important things

[fathom socket]

I really can't afford owning a car

[civic girder]

F

[fathom socket]

I really put my money on most basic maintenance

[civic girder]

That's rough

I can't imagine

[fathom socket]

I change only oil and filters

and replace stuff when I have to

like when my right lower control arm broke in half

oh yeah

I know what else I need to repalce

this CV joint

or shaft

or whatever is called

[charred depot]

looks like your stabelizer link had a nice go at your axle

i hope you replaced the inner tie rod heh

i love how chonky our old civics lower control arms are.

[fathom socket]

it was replaced

[charred depot]

hot

[odd talon]

Question for you guys, 993 or 997.2?

Would like a cabro, MT, under $60k to keep for a long time

993's seem like they'd be easier to fix as time goes on

but would like input

[ember dove]

Quit my job and saw this on the way home lmao

[fair bronze]

@odd talon I like the 911 in general but the 993 is going up in value if I'm not mistaken

It's also the last aircooled 911 so definitely a future classic if it isn't already

[odd talon]

Love the GT

[fair bronze]

That's my favourite GT

[odd talon]

Yeah I don’t know if the cabrio will be worth anything

[fair bronze]

I'd leave the wing off though

[odd talon]

Also considered a 360 spider

A manual swap from Ferrari is about $15k

[fair bronze]

That's a big investment

[odd talon]

So perhaps a 430 spider should be considered too

[odd talon]

Yes but the manual box has a much higher price

[fair bronze]

True

[odd talon]

So idk. Will likely fall into analysis paralysis and get nothing.

☹️

[fair bronze]

I know that feeling lol

[odd talon]

I hate me sometimes.

[fair bronze]

Better than buying something and regretting it imo

I like to do my research

[odd talon]

One thing I hate about ferraris

The maintenance schedule

Other thing is that the leather dashes tend to get damaged

The 993 interior quality is meh but it will likely always stay that way

[fair bronze]

It's very 90s

But also still a 911

I guess it's mostly about which you like more personally

[dense shard]

993 was considered a high point

And their value has been on the rise since the 997 dropped.

[dense shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEqxaH47DTs

[ember bobcat]

it looks pretty nice without clear coat i better tell my guy to hold off for a bit lmao

[indigo coral]

👀

goat car

[fathom socket]

Lmao wat

[fallen falcon]

yeh, lexus

[sturdy solar]

Its a sign, you did the right thing

[solemn inlet]

Looks like I got some bad valve seals

[fathom socket]

I've drove behind a diesel van that smoke was so blue

I started suffocating

[solemn inlet]

Mine only smokes like that for 2 - 3 seconds and it clears right up. Only on a cold start though

[fathom socket]

I've noticed there are a crap ton of vauxhall astras imported from UK

and a lot of other cars imported from UK

but the insurance is like insane

[stoic ledge]

Why have RHD cars in Poland? Makes no sense

[fallen falcon]

prolly skyline import JDM boomer stuff

or similar.

[fathom socket]

because

CHEAP CARS

cars form UK are super cheap compared to LHD cars

[fallen falcon]

it's not just the el echeapo material. there are people boomer enough to import whatever some fujiwara drove in an anime cartoon..

[fathom socket]

also

are just opel CDTI engines unreiable?

[fallen falcon]

the engines are mostly fine as far as i know

just stay very far away from easytronic

i drove one and it was garbage, shifts like a tank

[fathom socket]

I just rememberer we had a Astra H 1.7 CDTI and it broke in just 5000 km more than my focus did in 30000 km

[stoic ledge]

1.3 CDTi = Fiat, 1.7 CDTi = Isuzu

[fallen falcon]

they make better ones now.

there are others as well

[stoic ledge]

Sure 2.0 CDTi 1.6 CDTi etc are Opel engines, but the Astra H mostly had other engines

Also: most important is maintenance, they can get very high mileage but often get cheaped out as they get older

[fallen falcon]

yeah i noticed

most opel owners here don't seem to care a lot

but like some insignias such as the higher end models get the good treatment.

[stoic ledge]

My Opel is in 👌 shape

[fallen falcon]

which one?

for some reason i dig the signum a bit 😛

[stoic ledge]

2012 Corsa 👀

[fallen falcon]

don't tell me easytronic

[stoic ledge]

Lol no manual

[fallen falcon]

ah good 🙂

[fathom socket]

I just don't really do anything to other than changing oils and filters

[stoic ledge]

My parents had a 2003 Cors C Easytronic... shifts were slow but no other issues

[fathom socket]

the engine is fine

but not only that Astra broke so often

it had a 6 speed manual

but also it made me sick

[fallen falcon]

the corsa i drove out of the driver's course auto was awful really

[stoic ledge]

Ah yes zhe M32 gearbox has some problems

[fathom socket]

could not be inside for more than 15 minutes

[fallen falcon]

i got the license on a juke which was manual, that thing was far better

the eastronic was just shaking the car all around during the shifts

also the car was slow as donkey

[fathom socket]

the only 2 automatics I drove was a 2011 audi a3 and 2014 VW polo

[fallen falcon]

no matter what you did, even in the sport mode it would just go LOUDER BUT NOT FASTER LOL

[fathom socket]

and they shifted so slow

or maybe I shift like a maniac

[fallen falcon]

the A3 prolly had a ZF

shifting like a maniac still can't pass good auto

like DSG.

[stoic ledge]

My grandpa bought the Corsa C with Easytronic new... as he wanted an auto buy the 4spd slushbox was like 2k more, so the Easytronic was a great solution

[fallen falcon]

i think that corsa was prolly a 1.0 or 1.2 or something