I really want the GR Yaris to come to the states
#cars
timber thunder
timber thunder
Hopefully
dense shard
A hot Corolla has been confirmed.
We should get some news on it this year considering the hatchback is due for a mid-cycle refresh.
As for 4x4s. The more I look, the more I feel that the WJ and ZJ Grand Cherokees are considered the "good ones."
And those are pushing 20 years on the low end. 30 on the high end.
And Wranglers aren't cheap or particularly pleasant to drive.
hard oasis
i0
tame whale
elon tesla
elfin glacier
2jz corolla 😳 😳 😳 😳
i gotta go diagnose which disease my e36 got bc it aint starting
i hope its something minor and i dont have to put a whole new engine in it
dense shard
Sounds like you need an LS swap.
civic girder
Time to scrap it and buy a Toyota Corolla lmao
dense shard
Just buy a Jeep bro.
elfin glacier
yeah and 2jz swap it
dense shard
Inline 6, same thing.
elfin glacier
no
dense shard
torq
civic girder
No, Jeeps are objectively terrible
civic girder
off-road
budget
hmmm something doesn't seem right here.......
dense shard
It has solid axles front and back. 4x4, and a damn good engine.
And unlike a 4Runner doesn't cost an arm and two legs.
elfin glacier
my dad got a 2 door ~90' pajero for pretty cheap
civic girder
I hear 4.0s have head gasket problems
elfin glacier
a couple years back
dense shard
Not really?
dense shard
Not really.
That issue was found in only a couple of years.
The rest of the 30 year history is pretty solid.
civic girder
Either way, Chryslers rust like nothing else
dense shard
This one is mostly rust free.
civic girder
you got damn lucky then
civic girder
The only Chrysler cars I've seen that are pre 2005, at most, literally came from states where rust is rare
dense shard
This is early early daimler.
civic girder
my friend's Dodge Neon is a California car
every other Neon around here is rusted to shit, or its a clapped and somewhat rusty SRT4
dense shard
People who buy em don't usually take care of em.
Jeeps tend to last better because the owners partially give a crap.
... oh good I wasn't censored.
civic girder
Never seen a Jeep older than 10 or so years that isn't clapped
civic girder
Jeeps younger than 10 years are either ultra shitty ones or are modified and never seen dirt or mud in its life
There's no inbetweens here
civic girder
I'd consider the newer grand cherokees to be shitty lol
civic girder
what competition
dense shard
Exploder, whatever GM is making this month.
And literally anything Europe has coughed up.
civic girder
aren't cherokees smaller than explorers
dense shard
If I'm gonna have to fix my car post warranty I'd rather it be American.
Grand Cherokee.
civic girder
that sounds awful
dense shard
All third row seats are awful unless you get a van.
civic girder
I can see the cross shopping, but still convinced explorers are larger
iirc the Edge is about the same size
and the Edge is kinda shitty, but still significantly better than the EcoShit
And the HR-V
At least the Rav4, CR-V, and CH-R are halfway decent
dense shard
The GC competes with the Explorer.
Wheelbase is between the Edge and Explorer.
Gen 5 GC is a good bit longer wheelbase wise.
civic girder
odd considering the size difference, but I suppose people looking at either aren't exactly looking for nice cars
dense shard
I've heard the GC is a damn nice car interior wise.
They tend to hit above their weight.
And it turns out that despite everything, FCA's infotainment is actually usable.
civic girder
If its anything like my mom's Pacifica, its probably relatively comfortable, but the controls are going to be extremely bad
dense shard
It's nothing like the Pacifica.
civic girder
do they have the exceptionally awful shift knob
dense shard
What, the rotary knob?
civic girder
yes
dense shard
I'll take it over literally anything the Germans have done the past decade.
Especially BMW.
Specifically BMW.
... and Honda actually.
civic girder
Having seen some early 2010 BMWs, the newer Chrysler rotary shift knobs are just as bad
dense shard
Push button shifters are kinda... blah.
civic girder
both are exceedingly shit.
Nah, push buttons are ok
more responsive and accurate than FCA's rotary knobs
you aim to hit D from P
hit literally anything else because there's no responsiveness
dense shard
I've used the FCA rotary shifter a few times in a RAM. I honestly never had any issues with it.
It's nice and clicky.
civic girder
Not in my experience
dense shard
Sounds like a lemon.
civic girder
¯_(ツ)_/¯
dense shard
Never had an issue.
Turn one way to get to drive, turn the other way to get to park.
civic girder
It's my biggest complaint with the pacifica
dense shard
3 clicks to go forward.
civic girder
more like 3 might've been clicks but you can't tell
dense shard
¯_(ツ)_/¯
dense shard
I don't feel Jeep is that bad considering the competition.
My 01 seems to be holding up well despite a torn front seat.
civic girder
Direct domestic competition, sure
dense shard
Name me one foreign competitor.
civic girder
Rav4
dense shard
no
civic girder
CR-V
civic girder
dense shard
The RAV4 and CR-V will crap their clutches 5 miles off road.
The only actual competition comes in the form of a 4Runner. Which is radically more expensive.
civic girder
Name me one Jeep product from the last 10 years that won't break going off road
dense shard
And I'm not blowing 8 grand on a clapped out 4Runner.
I have a product from 20 years ago.
civic girder
there you go
dense shard
ok?
I imagine the Wrangler can manage just fine off road.
As can the GC.
Compass and Renegade aren't off roaders.
Just all weather crossovers like the CR-V.
civic girder
Not really. There's many many examples of new Jeeps that break on their first off-road venture
civic girder
idk
A Gladiator fording a river and then the differential seizes on the highway trip home doesn't sound like driving poorly to me
And of course, FCA says off-roading voids the warranty
dense shard
That could happen to any car from what I've heard.
If you get water into the differential, bad things happen.
Unless it's a Honda apparently. Gas in oil is fine and to be expected.
But they're working on fixing that... despite it working fine. dunno
civic girder
so there's something fishy going on if your off-road capable vehicle, that plenty of people are buying to off-road, cannot be covered under warranty if you go off-rooad
civic girder
If you get water into the differential, bad things happen.
Yes, but normally off-road cars don't get water in the differential on their first bout in the mud
dense shard
So apparently the guy went mudding, and somehow managed to get mud into the alternator.
That's not a fault of the car. That's driver error.
In response, this Jeep Gladiator owner decided to take their truck to the dealership from which they bought it. Upon giving it a second look, the only item that needed replacing was the alternator. The second dealership charged a small deductible for the repair. Additionally, the dealership reportedly confirmed the valid status of the truck’s warranty.
civic girder
Is it? Last I checked newer jeeps have the alternator mounted on the bottom of the engine with little to no sheilding
dense shard
And it turns out the other dealership still accepted the warranty.
dense shard
It's like taking your Mustang out on the track and cooking the clutch.
I doubt Ford would honor that warranty.
As confirmed by a Chrysler Canada spokesperson: "Please be advised that driving a trail rated Jeep off-road would not in itself 'invalidate' the warranty, however, it is important for the customer to understand that warranty coverage applies to factory defects only. Damage or failures attributed to any other source are the customer's responsibility."
civic girder
I'd say FCA is in a similar position to Nissan, personally. They still live because the average consumer doesn't know any better and they're cheap
dense shard
Oh sure they can improve.
civic girder
Off-road vehicles are arguably a smaller niche than performance cars
dense shard
But fact remains that I had only a few choices.
Of which a WJ GC remained my best, and frankly only bet.
civic girder
No, I'm not trying to dispute that at all
dense shard
Pathfinders, Rodeos, and 4Runners are all... uhhhhhhhh
civic girder
I'm just commenting on Jeeps within the last 10 or so years
dense shard
Myth, urban legend, and a bad joke.
Last ten years of Jeep frankly hasn't put them in a worse spot than the Explorer and I swear I have no clue what GM makes in that size catagory.
civic girder
GM is a mystery to me as well lmao
dense shard
Like I can't even begin to make fun of GM, because I have no earthly clue where to direct my... anything.
civic girder
The Cruze is a thing ig
dense shard
But the Explorer was either a FWD momwagon, and the new one had a very very rough start.
oh the Cruze...
well GM didn't get a class action against em like Ford did.
civic girder
That's true
dense shard
so, hey. Kudos.
And honestly Honda had a huge stumble with the previous gen Civic as well.
civic girder
The Sonic/Bolt exist as well
dense shard
GM would prefer you not bring that up at the dinner table.
dense shard
Well I wouldn't believe that looking at the Koreans.
Dart was a refresh away from being actually good.
civic girder
Korean cars are cheap, disposable, and the warranties are incredibly enticing
dense shard
Were cheap and disposable.
The new K5 is sweet.
So is the Sonata if you're into that shape.
civic girder
I haven't paid much attention
dense shard
oh man the Japanese need to watch their backs.
civic girder
My focus is primarily on Toyota and Mazda, but that's where my loyalties lie
dense shard
Sedan market is shrinking, and competition is hot hot hot.
civic girder
Yea, korean cars are getting really nice these days tho
dense shard
Toyota's Camry is... alright. They still offer a V6.
Honda's gimmick is a tiny turbo or a larger engine that's still only a 2 liter.
civic girder
The Camry has never been anything special. It exists, they don't die, and blend in
God the tiny Honda turbos aren't great
dense shard
Honda has the most to lose here.
civic girder
Particularly in the Accord. They're ok in the Civic
civic girder
True
civic girder
Lol
civic girder
You wouldn't catch me owning a Honda made after 2002 so eh
civic girder
Yea, it's a bit yikes
dense shard
And it's not just a bit of blow by.
People are noticing wwaaaaaayyyyyy too much fluid in their crank case. Scary amounts.
civic girder
Ah, reminds me of the 7th gen Corolla
Except the blow-by goes the other direction
You know you've got a problem when your 4 banger burns more oil than an abused rotary
dense shard
Toyota has somehow managed to escape the worst of the fallouts with their engines.
Last gen Corollas have vacuum pump issues.
civic girder
It seems like every toyota motor ever has looming possibilities of head gasket failure
dense shard
Oh that's easy to explain.
At this point I've written off all head gasket failures as poor maintenance leading to overheating.
"oh this car is crap cause the engine seized"
yes aunt karen, because you never changed the oil
civic girder
I mean yea, that's typically how most problems develop
dense shard
Modern engines don't do overheating, at all.
civic girder
Cause they're tiny
dense shard
And aluminum doesn't like heat.
civic girder
Also true
dense shard
Jeep's 4.7 V8 had the same issue. Aluminum heads and iron block.
High tech for an American engine.
It was actually fairly great.
Till you overheated it.
And here's a fun fact I learned. The 4 speed in the higher trim GCs is actually a 6 speed.
civic girder
People told me to be wary of head gaskets on the Previa, but tbh I don't really see it as much of a problem.
dense shard
So 2 years in. Daimler allowed Jeep to program in a 5th gear. For some reason the final gear is used as 2nd gear, but only for downshifts.
civic girder
The bigger worry is the transmission
dense shard
So WJ Grand Cheorkees have two second gears.
civic girder
It's easy to overheat the Previa trans
civic girder
So WJ Grand Cheorkees have two second gears.
Interesting
I plan to add an aux transmission cooler
dense shard
Yes. Next time you get into an argument with a Jeep person. Flex on them with this excellent fact.
It's okay if you hurt their feelings. We'll just park on a curb to flex.
civic girder
Tbh, I personally find Jeep culture extremely revolting
It's part of why I dislike jeeps so much
dense shard
I haven't noticed anything. Then again nothing can be worse than r/cars.
civic girder
But I suppose coal rolling is much much worse
dense shard
I should go back there to get banned for getting a Jeep.
civic girder
Lmao
dense shard
"you should have gotten a 4Runner"
Turns out those V8 immortal UZs aren't that great.
dense shard
You wouldn't have if you saw what I did.
So the exhaust manifold cracks in the 4Runner applications.
And it's not an issue you can fix without spending a lot of money.
Timing belt needs replacement.
civic girder
You wouldn't have if you saw what I did.
Not my fault you live in washington
civic girder
Timing belt needs replacement.
Classic 90s Toyota
civic girder
I thought that's where you lived, but in any case, 4 Runners around here are halfway decent
dense shard
I've seen a few.
They're either north of 350k.
Or are in very poor condition.
And of course 4+ grand in every instance.
Not an amount I want to put into what will be a winter project beater.
civic girder
Your unique situation I suppose
dense shard
It was worse in Alabama.
civic girder
Personally $4k for a 350k mile 4 runner isn't horrible if it's late 90s
dense shard
Turns out the 2WD 4Runners add a few grand to the price.
Those era 4Runners are known to have rust issues and apparently head gaskets are a common problem.
civic girder
But I'm not scared of mileage in a Toyota
dense shard
I'm not particularly scared of mileage in an old Jeep.
260k in and well... not bad tbh.
civic girder
Wouldn't surprise me if they rust. I've seen some rotted Previas on the internet
And again, seems like literally every old Toyota engine has looming headgaskets
dense shard
I have no means or patience to fix that.
And I'm not paying an extra grand on top of 5 to get that fixed.
civic girder
If I was in the market I probably would. But I'd consider myself a special case
dense shard
I was on a budget.
I didn't trust a single Toyota out there to last me 8 years.
I trust the Jeep to do at least 3.
Both the 4Runners I looked at were cursed. First one had been through 5 accidents. 2 of which deployed airbags. Second 4Runner was a 240k V8 that was backed into something and on its second engine.
civic girder
I have unwavering faith in Toyota lol.
civic girder
Yea damn, the 4 Runners by you sound like shit. Your area must kinda suck for that market
dense shard
People know what they got, no lowballers.
civic girder
Here I could probably get a clapped wrangler for $300 and it'd die on its first trail lmao
dense shard
That's why you add a zero, and get to the second trail.
Tho I'd be surprised you managed to get a 300 dollar wrangler moving under it's own power.
civic girder
Problem is I can't see myself putting any.more than that into a chrysler
dense shard
The only thing with a more idioticly high tax than a Toyota product is a Wrangler of any vintage.
civic girder
While I've pumped far more than common sense says I should into my $280 Corolla
And I stand on the edge of a cliff, unsure if the motor is toast or something else is broken
dense shard
I shouldn't look at FB marketplace after buying the Jeep.
I'll only be filled with regret.
civic girder
I get filled with guilt and regret most of the time. See nice Toyotas for good prices and unable to give them a nice home
Occasionally I see something I cannot refuse though
indigo coral
My neighbor has a 4Runner, its her third one over the last like 30 years. She loves them.
civic girder
see Corolla and Previa
dense shard
My car has a mere 25% more mileage on it.
indigo coral
She's got an 08 rn I think
civic girder
Yea, SUVs and large trucks are not my area of interest
indigo coral
She had an accord for a while as an interim car that we almost bought from her, but I ended up getting my RX instead
dense shard
There are a freakish amount of Ford Escapes on sale.
indigo coral
The 2000s escapes are terrible cars
dense shard
Also a Tundra is a bad value no matter how you look at it.
indigo coral
run like hell
civic girder
I wonder why
civic girder
Escape has a hidden meaning in the name
indigo coral
not-so-hidden*
dense shard
I don't have to imagine. I can go to a dealership and drive a new one.
civic girder
Once you get one you search for every avenue of escape
indigo coral
The new ones aren't too bad
dense shard
They're not great at all.
civic girder
What did you expect from the factory shitbox manufacturer
indigo coral
doors weigh nothing and are hollow af, the whole interior is cheap hard plastic, and they're slowwwwww
dense shard
I don't need speed.
indigo coral
dangerously slow
civic girder
Mazda was damn near the only thing keeping Ford alive
dense shard
I just need everyone else to fear me.
indigo coral
makes my RX seem speedy
civic girder
Couldn't you get those escapes with 4 bangwrs
civic girder
Yea, you say this like it's a surprise lmao
Practically everything with a ford emblem at the time was a shitbox from the factory
indigo coral
I frankly cannot fathom why someone would buy one of those escapes over something like an RX350 from 2007 or smth like that
My mom had a Five Hundred and it was solid
civic girder
Just about the only things that weren't were trucks and crown vics
indigo coral
the Five Hundred did well until it got rear ended so hard the frame bent in the middle
not the fault of the car
civic girder
I hear the five hundreds were exceedingly sketchy
indigo coral
big ass heavy cadillac at 60mph into a stopped car
wat?
it was a great car
kinda slow, but a good car nonetheless
my mom had the 2007 Five Hundred Limited
civic girder
I've been the same way with my old cars
indigo coral
https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/ctd/d/spanaway-2007-lexus-rx-350-base/7286937935.html
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/d/mountlake-terrace-2009-ford-escape-4wd/7286939174.html
why, pray tell, would one buy the Ford Escape?
civic girder
The Prius has only ever had issues caused by me. Except the fuel guage that is inconsistent and always inaccurate. No idea why, have yet to try and diagnose
indigo coral
like a blown engine 
civic girder
Again, you search for every avenue of escape
indigo coral
Lol
Part of the reason that I 
lexus is that its not expensive as hell to maintain like a bmw or audi or smth
cause its a toyota
civic girder
meanwhile my brother's lexus
indigo coral
isn't that cause he keeps running into shit
civic girder
$235 for a wing mirror
civic girder
isn't that cause he keeps running into shit
Yes
indigo coral
Lol
civic girder
The passenger side mirror suddenly started having issues staying attached
indigo coral
My grandpa's 07 RX 350 gets surprisingly decent fuel economy
civic girder
Pretty sus
indigo coral
I drove it ~100 miles the other day just to use up the gas before it gets ancient and whatnot, pulled 25mpg which isn't bad for a 300hp car that's heavy af lol
civic girder
But I got $50 for replacing it, and reimbursed for the $235 for the mirror
indigo coral
Nice
civic girder
I kinda want to tell him to fix his own car when he next breaks it lol
He has told me he wants to get a mini cooper
dense shard
oh a Mini Cooper is gonna be great.
civic girder
And part of me is like "how are you going to care for and maintain a mini of you can't even take care of a lexus"
dense shard
For his mechanic.
indigo coral
if you can't maintain a Lexus, stay far far far away from german cars
civic girder
Yep lol.
Can't wait to tell him I cba to fix a german car and to go deal with his own self inflicted mess. "should've bought something reliable and easy to fix"
indigo coral
depending on how new it is you might not be able to fix it 
stupid dealer programming shit
dense shard
... usually when I say that someone jumps in to defend Tesla.
civic girder
But tbh, I wonder if he's actually going to try to get into cars
dense shard
Has my Jeep ownership scared the Tesla owners away?
indigo coral
If he wants to buy a Mini and learn to fix it, more power to him
dense shard
Minis aren't great cars to work on.
indigo coral
but if he expects it to just work like a Lexus does, he's in for a rude awakening
civic girder
He has expressed zero interest in trying to learn when I offer
"hey you want to help me do an oil change on your car?"
"No I have homework"
indigo coral
like shit man I've got one of the least reliable Lexus models ever made, and I've only had general old-car work to do
indigo coral
Over 3 years I can only imagine how much of a mess a 22 year old BMW would be
(glances at my friend's X3)
civic girder
I remember when I brought home the previa he said "why'd you buy an ugly ass van"
indigo coral
thing's been in the shop more than its been in her driveway
Oof
Previa is not ugly
its quirky
civic girder
I was secretly extremely pissed
dense shard
Well 22 year old X5s aren't bad now.
But X5s today in 22 years wi... they won't exist.
dense shard
I just don't think that people will find German cars worth keeping on the road.
civic girder
Same
dense shard
American or Japanese cars... perhaps.
indigo coral
There's only one thing that you can argue was not typical maintenance, and that was replacing front drivers side brake caliper
civic girder
A lot of old american and japanese cars may stay on the road out of cheapness
dense shard
oh yeah. I might have to replace my calipers.
indigo coral
Everything else (spark plugs, valve cover gasket, alignment, etc) is expected
civic girder
Imagine needing new calipers
indigo coral
Only 1 was flaky but I replaced both because I don't mess with brakes
It wasn't even expensive because yay toyota parts
pads, rotors, and calipers was only around 200$
civic girder
I say as I prepare my wallet for potentially eye watering bills for solid axle repairs
dense shard
oh I don't need new calipers, but it's an upgrade I might consider.
indigo coral
I especially don't f**k with brakes because we have a ton of hills here
indigo coral
tbh I was surprised how easy a brake job was
civic girder
tbh I was surprised how easy a brake job was
Wait till you do drum brakes the first time
dense shard
and last
civic girder
indigo coral
Why would I ever have drum brakes
Even my old car has 4 wheel discs
I wish I could find the windowsticker for my car, I want to confirm for sure that it actually has the rare limited slip option
civic girder
Not all of us have top trim shitboxes
indigo coral
My grandpa says it does, and it feels like it does, but idk for sure
civic girder
Literally all 4 of my cars have rear drum
dense shard
You can probably request a build sheet from Toyota.
My GC has rear discs... and drum parking brake.
I know it is because it doesn't work.
civic girder
At this point drum brakes are a part of the pain that comes with owning project cars
indigo coral
On Lexus forums, they said the way to tell is if you punch it in the snow and the rear end wags back and forth then hooks up
which is exactly what mine does
dense shard
Any maintenance to be done to either thing I own is going to a shop.
dense shard
No means or patience to do my own work right now.
dense shard
I wanna get some eatons for the WJ.
indigo coral
The car zipped right up a steep hill to my grandparents in a foot of snow
Really quite impressive imo
dense shard
Fancy e-lockers.
indigo coral
My mom tried once and slid right back down like 1/5th of the way up, and she's got fresh tires while mine are old
charred depot
the drum brakes on my car last the life of it providing you dont do too many handbrake turns
civic girder
The Prius careened into a ditch lmfao
civic girder
the drum brakes on my car last the life of it providing you dont do too many han...
I highly doubt that tbh
charred depot
no really
indigo coral
tbh given how depreciation is going, I might end up being able to buy an LC 500 before I can buy a GS F
LC 500 is depreciating like a brick
GS F isn't
charred depot
theres mazda 2's at over 160k miles, shoes still not worn
indigo coral
GS F is tracking like IS F
charred depot
even at 100k they are barely worn
civic girder
That scares me
charred depot
the back of the car has like 0 weight on it
civic girder
Sounds like the rear brakes are absolutely useless and not setup correctly
indigo coral
GS F and LC 500 both start around 100k, but a 2016 GS F is still well over 50k, while a 2019 LC 500 is already down to 60k or even less sometimes
LC is depreciating way faster than GS
charred depot
theres just no traction on the rear during braking for anything stronger to be useful
they are literally just there to keep it going in a straight line
civic girder
LC is depreciating way faster than GS
Yet your income is still no closer 😛
indigo coral
It will once I'm out of uni
:p
I want to get one before I turn 30, idk if that'll pan out though
I'll have to get one hell of a job
charred depot
the braking redundancy whatever on the mazda 2 is diagonal
indigo coral
but it's theoretically possible
indigo coral
The goal I've set myself is to have a fully paid off house, and max out retirement accounts every year before I entertain the notion of buying a fancy car.
civic girder
That's going to be next to impossible in a decade when you haven't even started
civic girder
You're going to have to get extremely lucky and start with a high pay and stability
indigo coral
Thankfully I won't have any student debt, which makes stuff easier
civic girder
From my perspective it'd be more realistic to either max the accounts or pay off the house
indigo coral
We'll see how things go, but I will absolutely not be buying a fancy car until I have both of those goals met. It would be completely reckless to do otherwise.
There's no plane in which a 30k car is necessary
civic girder
me thinking about buying a brand new car for a daily in a couple years
indigo coral
I live in a good job market, with relatively high salaries, so I feel like those goals are attainable, if difficult
civic girder
Problem with aiming for a new car is parking
I also expect to be buying at least two more shitboxes before then
I desire Sienna, and would like a Camry
dense shard
Took me a year to get a job.
indigo coral
Like lets say I get my degree, graduate university debt free, and start into a relatively decent job. Median salaries in the city are upwards of 100k, if I lived out in the area I do rn it would be feasible to get a decent starter house for 300-400k. Living alone with minimal expenses, I could have that paid off relatively quickly.
civic girder
My looong term goal is to import a basic Toyota
indigo coral
That's fair, but I'm hopeful. I live in an active job market, going to a uni that has lots of job recruiters coming through
so I'm hoping I can get a job relatively quickly.
civic girder
Don't get your hopes too high
Just cause pay is good doesn't mean the job is good, and vice versa
dense shard
oh lots of job recruiters is good.
indigo coral
My university is well regarded and well connected with industry around here.
dense shard
I didn't have that luxury post Japan.
civic girder
I like my job, even though pay is a little shitty
But I don't plan on a family of any capacity any time soon, so the pay is enough to satisfy my expensive hobbies.
indigo coral
I know that "a good university" doesn't really matter in terms of getting a job, but it does help when you're attending school in the same city as tons of employers who are looking to recruit
civic girder
But I seriously need to double down on saving so I can buy a nice house to upgrade my shitbox storage capacity
indigo coral
and fwiw i have a relatively respectable savings built
civic girder
First step is to move.out to rental house tho
indigo coral
not enough to do much with, but a decent start
civic girder
I need to start budgeting. Big time.
dense shard
I'm not too worried.
civic girder
I'm not worried about going under or anything. I'm just trying to plan for expansion and to allow myself room to pursue what gives me enjoyment
indigo coral
One savings I can apply immediately is no cell phone bill
I 4D-chess-ed my way into making it so there's no benefit for my parents to kick me off their plan
Thanks T-Mobile
civic girder
Lol
civic girder
I could move and take on all the bills for services I use. But it would make doing hobby stuff much harder at my current income
I expect my parents won't kick me off cell plan or change the Netflix/hulu passwords any time soon tho
indigo coral
On our t-mobile plan we're paying for 3 lines, but get 5 free and 20% off the 3 paid ones
civic girder
Mainly the only things I leach off of tbh
indigo coral
plus 3 free phones and free netflix
civic girder
Other than food and utilities/rent
My only bills, besides car insurance, is vrv and spotify lel
indigo coral
vrv?
civic girder
Oh yea amazon.prime I leech off of hard
indigo coral
o
I can't wait until tmo upgrades backhaul on these towers
easily 1gbps
I still have yet to crest 1gbps and I really want to lol
charred depot
still deciding on the second car i want to get to learn on
nothing over £1k as ill probably time the engine wrong or some shit and grenade it
thinking e46 as its easy going for parts and has lots to do
charred depot
I want a challenge
civic girder
Oh it'll be hard mode alright
There's a reason my friend has done nothing to it yet
It's either extremely hard or stupidly expensive
No in-between
Ok, I'm going to bed now
charred depot
good noite
dense shard
I'll stick to the WJ being my project.
charred depot
this is just bullying lol
stoic ledge
Well mine survived 9 years without scuffing 
charred depot
was looking at the history of this well covered car for sale plate
split notch
I dont get why people hide plates on for sale posts anyway
Like its just code for "the MOT history is shitty at best"
fallen falcon
try buying cars from like.. mazda plazas anyway
you'll sometimes even get warranty on old cars that way
charred depot
im looking at £600 shitboxes
fallen falcon
could do better than that
charred depot
im intentionally not
fallen falcon
yawn 🙂
charred depot
?
fallen falcon
not much lol
charred depot
i already have a perfect daily driver, looking at trash to learn on
fallen falcon
fair enough, maybe an old audi
charred depot
likely going to be a butchered E46 with the 2.2 I6 or smaller
insurance is ech above that
fallen falcon
not bad
fathom socket
im looking at £600 shitboxes
look at my 500 euro shite box
I got those rims from junkyard for 30 euros
needed something for da winter
charred depot
id buy it from you if it were closer and the wheel was on the correct side
pearl tiger
look at my 500 euro shite box
thats not a shitbox 😄
fathom socket
why not?
pearl tiger
per definition my car is a shitbox 😄 yours is truly usable
fallen falcon
here, have a zoombox
fathom socket
per definition my car is a shitbox 😄 yours is truly usable
My car is a coffin on wheels
At least in certain scenarios
On highway winds likes to blow me to the other lane
fathom socket
Is that a polo?
fallen falcon
spin-off polo
hard flicker
i want to buy a car but i dont have enough money for the car i want
fallen falcon
whatcar dot com
pearl tiger
Is that a polo?
Seat Ibiza.. based on Polo and Golf parts
fathom socket
One of these days I'm gonna go to the house with a truck that had been sitting for years and knock on the door and ask to look at it
It is an old seafoam green dodge pickup
Late 60s early 70s
Haven't seen it move ever
I want to offer to buy it for $500
flint sable
here, have a zoombox
Is that Carlisle
fallen falcon
nah, t-bird SC, 90's
fathom socket
Channel name =cars
Content = plane
Me=Wut?
flint sable
Channel name =cars
Content = plane
Me=Wut?
its a porsche carerra 4 with the optional aero kit
¯_(ツ)_/¯
civic spoke
Channel name =cars
Content = plane
Me=Wut?
Really. This channel is all about stuff that can move themselves.
fallen falcon
the lancia delta integrale HF was quite an interesting car, it came with a torsen AWD while being a hatchback
even some of the hottest hatches of today come with crappy haldex AWD systems
mostly %90 front based, so yeah..
other cars that use the torsen are VAG group vehicles like the audi's of today, A4 quattro and the bigger boys.
it's the same basic principle but in an updated form.
"4x4 full-time (quattro 5gen, all-wheel drive permanent; torsen T-3 center differential 40/60 (70/30-15/85 automatically distributed), Electronic Differential Locks EDL front and rear applying brakes on spinning wheels)"
flint sable
Really. This channel is all about stuff that can move themselves.
Has a motor wheels and moves, just a specialized car
civic spoke
Yeah. A plane is really just a weird car that's able to fly.
They taxi all the time, if you think about it.
flint sable
I like taxiing around
Sometimes I overcorrect since even on the ground you steer with the rudder
And the breaks
Each wheels breaks are individually controlled
fallen falcon
and a hummingbird is basically an LS engine with propellers
aka a kit helicopter..
based off the skorsky russian
flint sable
That Cessna has a carburetor
fallen falcon
plane engines sometimes differ from car motors tho
fathom socket
"A plane is really just a weird car thats able to fly" i think i need write down these quotes
flint sable
Sometimes you gotta pump the throttle
fallen falcon
boat engines are also interesting
supercharged big diesels and stuff
on speedboats
civic spoke
Honda makes some decent engines.
fallen falcon
most asian engines are bulletproof compared to modern audi, mercedes etc.
civic spoke
The big difference between car engines, and boat engines is the fact that they are mounted vertical.
fallen falcon
that depends tho
flint sable
The big difference between car engines, and boat engines is the fact that they a...
Never knew that
fallen falcon
you can find boats of any form
civic spoke
fallen falcon
ranging from your typical chevy V8 to different kinds of stuff
that's not the only way.
civic spoke
That's how the engines are on boats.
fallen falcon
sometimes the engine is mounted the other way
basically put in horizontally down to the center bottom
then you have the propellers on the back doing the job
just like a rear wheel driven car
civic spoke
Actually a bit crazy how much power you can get from boat engines.
fallen falcon
it's also a lot of weight even if it's carbonfiber
you're basically fighting against the water as well
that's why you can't get as fast as cars even with some 1000 HP.
civic spoke
fallen falcon
but boats are in a different league all together than cars to be real
civic spoke
Imagine having 2,400 hp's worth in outboarders. On a single boat...
fallen falcon
you can live in a boat, whereas you need a caravan to do the same on ground
civic spoke
Much easier to cool engines on boats.
fallen falcon
also things get really juicy after certain knots down water
it's not like the quattro where it hugs up the road tight to no end.
civic spoke
It's just so ridiculous with how much engine you just slap on a boat.
fallen falcon
yeah but most people in where i live don't do it
and people build speedboats all day here
think life safety 🙂
civic spoke
fallen falcon
looks nice but a bit too big, ima watch it
civic spoke
Sizable engine...
fallen falcon
that's indeed a bit too large for smaller boats
civic spoke
I mean, it is a V12 with 7.6 liter.
fallen falcon
yeh, physically it looks massive
i wouldn't put that on something smaller than 10-15m
civic spoke
Oh. You can also do something Mike Finnegan did.
fallen falcon
finnegans are top dumb
civic spoke
11.7 liter big block V8 with twin turbo for a speed boat.
fallen falcon
i prefer keeping things sensible and classy
ain't gonna die down a stupid boat lol.
civic spoke
Yeah, same.
fallen falcon
heh.
fathom socket
can someone explain me how does oil turn in to black water?
civic spoke
can someone explain me how does oil turn in to black water?
Thinking about the Cleeter video?
fathom socket
what video?
civic spoke
what video?
Ahh, just a recent video from Cleetus McFarland. Where they blew up one of their engines. And the oil was super thin when they checked it.
fathom socket
Ahh, just a recent video from Cleetus McFarland. Where they blew up one of their...
it's like water
how does that even happen
civic spoke
Not sure.
civic spoke
Could be that it got too hot or something.
fathom socket
the conrod snapped and basically it was a 3 cylinder diesel
it stil ran when this happened
civic spoke
"ran"
floral skiff
yo i got a 76 chevorlet stingray
fathom socket
Could be that it got too hot or something.
we pulled over and didn't start
flint sable
yo i got a 76 chevorlet stingray
Cool
I’m not the biggest corvette fan
But I know some who own em
lusty berry
I need to replace the catalytic converter in my 1992 Ford Taurus. I'm looking at new ones on Rock Auto, and they are available for about $260, however it is an "EPA/Federal Compliant" one that also says that it is "Not legal for sale or use in California or Colorado". The one that is legal in California and Colorado costs $390. What are the restrictions on the use (or registration) of my car in those two states if I get the cheaper catalytic converter? Are the requirements looser since the car is as old as it is? Also, even the one that is available as an OEM replacement is apparently "not legal for sale or use in CA or CO". I currently live in Maryland but do not want my car to be impossible to register in California, as there is the small chance I may move there
dense shard
no clue tbh.
Dunno if your item would count as aftermarket or OE.
I would probably go ahead and maybe send and email to the Cali DOT. Don't mention you are replacing the cat as it really isn't relevant at this point.
Just ask if you'll need to replace the catalytic converter in order to register your car.
lusty berry
Okay
civic girder
I need to replace the catalytic converter in my 1992 Ford Taurus. I'm looking at...
Rockauto cats aren't as good as the OE ones, as they are much cheaper. Its not guaranteed the car will pass emissions. The "For sale or use in California" ones are going to be better than the others, and may pass emissions
lusty berry
yeah because apparently the original cat isnt CARB compliant either according to what I read
lusty berry
Rockauto cats aren't as good as the OE ones, as they are much cheaper. Its not g...
The one I am looking at is AP EMISSIONS 642358 model
dense shard
I'm taking a loose approach to the Cali laws, but "aftermarket" is specifically mentioned. You could potentially be fine running a federal cat, but your mileage may vary.
Or move to a state without emissions.
Yes. Very cost effective, I know.
lusty berry
Or move to a state without emissions.
I don't currently live in CA and the cat is EPA compliant so good in MD where I am, but if possible I don't want it to be impossible to register the thing in CA if I have to
dense shard
That's a question that's difficult to answer tbh.
I would contact the CA DOT and ask.
lusty berry
I would contact the CA DOT and ask.
I will
dense shard
California tends to be over zealous on laws sometimes, but I don't recall anyone complaining about getting new emissions equipment when bringing an outside car in.
lusty berry
California tends to be over zealous on laws sometimes, but I don't recall anyone...
Is driving the car at interstate speeds with a semi blocked catalytic converter harmful for the engine? might postpone the replacement a bit if it won't harm the engine
lusty berry
ah 💩 then
flint sable
If a car was ordered with special specifications on color text and trim, would you consider it 1/1?
low carbon
dense shard
Depends on the car.
coarse citrus
if it is an older car you could just do a cat delete (pending local regulations)
dense shard
Federally a no no. And I believe MD does emissions testing.
coarse citrus
Ahh, here in MI they don't do emissions tests so cat deletes are more common
dense shard
That's still illegal.
coarse citrus
(or getting your cat stolen is more common haha)
coarse citrus
People have gotten real good at it, and battery powered sawzalls have made it too easy. One of my jobs got struck and six people had them stolen within 20/30 min.
dense shard
Isn't that supposedly pretty slow?
I've been hearing a minute per car if the guy is good.
coarse citrus
🤷♂️
dense shard
Worst part is Facebok is pretty complicit in all this.
coarse citrus
i am not the one doing it so i do not keep up on the metrics haha
dense shard
No way in hell are the "catalytic converters from 100 dollars" legal in any way.
Especially if the picture of said business is a white van filled with obviously sawed off cats.
indigo coral
I mean if the cats failed in my car, there's no way in hell id replace them lol
Would cost more than the value of my car
charred depot
had to take a backbox off a junkyard car before using a oversized hacksaw, was not fun
civic spoke
Old tires, that are in need of replacing on mine.
205/55R16 is what I have. I want to go up to at least 225/45R17
charred depot
changing the width of mine technically means declaring to insurance
civic spoke
changing the width of mine technically means declaring to insurance
I don't think so on mine? I forget.
gaunt cedar
bimmer wagons are magical, if I could trade my e92 for an e91 I'd do it in a heartbeat
fathom socket
spark plug as oil drain plug
fallen falcon
oil can't normally get hot enough to turn to whatever you think of
the melting point of it is around 250C
on our A4 2.0 TFSI quattro B8, we roll with it at 70C to some 100C in hotter days
however, some cars BURN oil
that's likely how it happened.
fathom socket
my car burns like 0.5 liter of oil for like 2000 km
fallen falcon
yeah the oil issue was huge on the audis
they fixed it after a while, but some cars still ended up with black exhausts
the tips of the exhausts usually tell the story on like 2012 cars
fallen falcon
i mean one oil to an another matters, like good castrol
but it can't change the problem on these cars
civic spoke
Why the thicker oil when cold?
fathom socket
i switched it in summer
civic spoke
Ahh. I guess.
civic spoke
You could really just run 5W30 year round.
fallen falcon
cold starts are awful for most vehicles during harsh winters
fathom socket
yeah but basically I lost most of the oil on highway
civic spoke
Then you'd probably want 5W40 instead. Not really sure.
fathom socket
because stupid oil cap blew off
civic spoke
Something that's thicker while warmed up.
fallen falcon
take it to the service
fallen falcon
well you're going to end up with worse problems if you can't have it fixed
that's not much money either, compared to the entire block re-build on audi
better save some and do it
might as well sell the car after the fix
dunno how happy you're with it though.
fallen falcon
fair yeah
fathom socket
IDK of it's the issue when I hit a large pothole that I didn't see
fallen falcon
sounds bad
fathom socket
because the control arm broke in half
fallen falcon
might be a cheaper fix tho, since it's an old car
i see pedals and stuff for those sold for like cheap
the problems are worse on your wallet when it's a more modern vehicle.. generally
fathom socket
generally now I'm without money
fallen falcon
think we paid a good grand for the 120k service a while ago
dad still can't change tires
it's those crappy conti stuff that age fast
out of cash.
charred depot
i know a guy with a tyre machine but he doesent have a modern balencer
he says its good enough for his cars though
fallen falcon
i'm more about the money side of the stuff
fathom socket
I've been lucky that my ford didn't have any serious breakdown yet
fallen falcon
changing is not an issue as we have dealers like, 1 to 1.5 km close to us.
fallen falcon
we're planning to put on eagle F1s, can't go wrong with those as long as weather is above 7C
rain performance of the asymmetrical treads are solid from all i read
and the tires last long so yeh
i read even the new contipremiumcontacts have issues with aging
might as well stay away from their tires unless it's the TS860, that seems to be a baller winter tire.
charred depot
the civic we have gets the cheapest part worn tyres on offer
doesent do enough miles anymore its sort of just a spare car
fathom socket
my car isn't worth much
fallen falcon
fits the civic too, heh
charred depot
its never had an alignment in our ownership
fathom socket
most part s are super cheap even new
but gosh
why old honda civic parts are so expensive
fallen falcon
JDM
charred depot
what kinda parts?
fathom socket
like stock exhaust
fallen falcon
stock exhaust isn't a must, you can just rip it out and do a full catback.
fallen falcon
i mean it doesn't have to be rice
charred depot
our civics exhaust has remained solid, my car (a mazda) which is half the age rusted out
fallen falcon
if you know what you're doing, you can get a custom exhaust 1000 times better than stock.
it's a common practice done on some infiniti vehicles
charred depot
have to declare to insurance
fallen falcon
like say the G37 or anything with VQ37 is loud
so you put in a switchable exhaust
reduce the noise, get a better deep sound while at it.
charred depot
my car would be on slight lowering springs etc but insurance is too nippy to have that on my main car
fallen falcon
here in turkey it passes unless it's really old and full-on crap
fallen falcon
yeah it's the same here, but they don't care a lot
you can just get a camaro with 1000 HP noisy as a jet
charred depot
im not messing around with insurance here where the consequence is getting banned for atleast a year
fallen falcon
during the corona though it would be an easy way to get copped
think of it this way, you pass the inspection but not the turkish cops
so you still lose lol
which is why we'll never have a loud butt car
it's not sensible anyway to ride on the streets with a 500 HP V8, in my book that is..
fathom socket
I've bearly got my car inspected
I want to install a tow hitch but I can't because of the structural damage \
fallen falcon
the audis with MMI 2.0 and above have service counters in the infotainment anyway
as long as you can afford to run it, there shouldn't be a big issue (considering the car is not all problematic like some audis)
i think we have hidden tow hitch spots
on the back, you pull out the plastic / alu and get those
it's definitely not a car designed to tow a lot tho
fathom socket
idk about ford focus
but my rear was rusted off
between the crash bar and the spare tyre
fallen falcon
if you're towing, i'd definitely recommend something like an EX37 at the very least, like think jet ski towing
fathom socket
IDK if I can have a tow hitch if I don't need to tow anything
fallen falcon
the braking is going to be a big problem with a focus
heck it's an issue with our A4 quattro
leave towing to SUVs
fallen falcon
yeah but that's just the paper
fathom socket
650 kg without brake assisted trailer
fallen falcon
towing 1200 with that thing is going to be way hard
or even 650
you probably can carry like half of 650 inside the car
before the vehicle would start shaking left to right at higher speeds
so gg with a trailer on the back lol
fathom socket
my car already does that with no load
fallen falcon
yeah ours was doing it down highway at high speeds like 160
fathom socket
Im worried that when I get my Cybertruck and tow a Trailer, I could RIP it (the mount) by giving full torque. 😄
at 140 I can feel that
fallen falcon
but we had a lot of weight in, kinda
also i keep telling dad to slow down at those speeds
lol
fathom socket
I need new rear struts but I can't afford jack shit now
I just need my car to do grosceries and get to my driving lessons
fallen falcon
the torsen is baller tho, it slides a bit but you can take some corners at that 160 km/h
definitely wouldn't suggest doing regardless of the quattro
unless you're carrying somebody to a hospital or something..
some struts are cheap and seemingly good
fathom socket
would do if that didn't cost me half of my savings
and I'm still in the middle of doing my license so I can drive trucks with trailers commercially
I still need my C+E
I really can't afford to own a car
fallen falcon
sounds cool
fathom socket
at least in this sitiuation
fallen falcon
definitely hard with the biggest boys tho, corners and whatnot.. gonna need people helping you unless it's a new volvo or something
old trucks also had no airbags or stuff
just in case.. think a bridge or something lol
fathom socket
I've managed to attach trailer to the truck I was driving first time
but just that I have to ram in to the trailer makes me feel like I'm breaking the truck
fallen falcon
it's what it is i guess..
trucks are rough go'ers, but like you gotta be a real pro driving those around anyway
fathom socket
I've got my C license first try
civic spoke
I got a job offer not too long ago. They are offering to pay for my CE license 😄
fathom socket
well
I'm getting it for free
I'm getting it because I just can't get a job here
and I need to move abroad next year
Higher chances to find a job
civic spoke
It was the same for me with my C license.
But the state is too cheap. And think that you're getting a job with just C either way.
They just don't want to pay for the CE license here in Stockholm.
fallen falcon
base trim pontiac fiero 
charred depot
id probably go down the route of becoming a truck driver but some of the super market drop off areas for trucks give me true fear
and ive not even touched the door of a truck yet
fallen falcon
i've been in some big trucks.. but i was too small to remember it all perfectly
dad used to take me to autoshows
flint sable
“Family Cars”
charred depot
hefty chonkers
fallen falcon
le familia a la luxury sedan 😏
eager grove
45?
fallen falcon
not bad.
eager grove
@fallen falcon which tune on the 2.0? 40 or 45? (190HP or 220HP)
fallen falcon
40 and 45 are the newer sayings, the 2.0 TFSI on b8 came at 211 and 225 HP flavors
it's not a B9 so it has the better torsen, 211 ponies.
rapid shale
i dig the cobalt
hearty anvil
anyone know anything about electric motors
flint sable
anyone know anything about electric motors
Oh no, that would attract the Tesla fanboys
hearty anvil
i dont like tesla's but i want to make a mobility scooter go 0-60 in 2 seconds.
rapid shale
have u ever seen a tesla swapped rx7? they RIP
hearty anvil
im looking for 80hp
rapid shale
sheee
hearty anvil
i mean quick lmao
rapid shale
some cars used to have 80hp lol
hearty anvil
ill dm you a video
flint sable
All wheel drive
stoic ledge
some cars used to have 80hp lol
used to
Looks at car with 83hp
split notch
My astra has 80hp lmao
stoic ledge
Anyway, you can put as much power in a mobility scooter as you want, the problem is getting the power down to the ground
split notch
my Skyline has 340hp but that's just semantics
