cars

[low carbon]

what car @solemn inlet

[solemn inlet]

That would be insane

Some holden idk

[low carbon]

not even a daewoo matiz is that slow

fuck i want a daewoo matiz

would be such a good paddock car

[solemn inlet]

Its a holden with a daewoo engine

[charred depot]

0-60mph in 13.5 seconds :^)))

extra fun on uphill onramps

[low carbon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVhjeqo3u9A

look at these legends

[stoic ledge]

Apparently with a meh start I even reached 60km/h in 7s (looked up an acceleration video I made once)

[low carbon]

they made a ute out of one

[solemn inlet]

Mates AU does 0 - 100km in second gear

[low carbon]

laughs in golf gti

[stoic ledge]

Same as zhe Corsa Not surprising for a similar type car/power/...

> VAG

[low carbon]

the manual ones have stupid long gearing

[solemn inlet]

Those are mean little engines

[stoic ledge]

[solemn inlet]

They like to pop and crackle

[low carbon]

like 80mph in 2nd

too bad gti owners are yobbos

[solemn inlet]

Me over here with my Mazda BT-50

[stoic ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/maniac-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-gif-5390857

[solemn inlet]

0 - 100 you bet 👍

[low carbon]

in nz it seems all the subie yobbos move to mk5 gtis

[charred depot]

2nd gear tops out at 50mph in my car

[stoic ledge]

Same

[low carbon]

good

short gearing = more fun

[charred depot]

weed whacker status

[stoic ledge]

Short gearing = necessary to keep it moving

[low carbon]

this is why i drive in low range

cause MaNuAl

[solemn inlet]

Zach, my diesel actually takes off faster than my mates au

Diesel torque for the win

[low carbon]

because its a ute

[charred depot]

i wish my first gear went further and understand why it doesent heh

[solemn inlet]

His is a ute

[low carbon]

au ute

[stoic ledge]

Yikes it's 3 AM

[low carbon]

weirdchamp

[stoic ledge]

Cya

[solemn inlet]

Super cab au

4 litre

[low carbon]

sweet dreams about a pacifica hellcat with crossclimate plus tyres

wait a super cab

wtf

[low carbon]

oh no i had a moment

my brain forgot that super crew isnt the 4 door one lol

[solemn inlet]

Ahh

Imagine a chopped au

[low carbon]

ah the ol crewman

what a terrible car

[solemn inlet]

Like a 79 toyota

Holdens v6 is rubbish

[low carbon]

both the v6 and v8 drove like absolute rubbish

[solemn inlet]

Unless its a Clubsport

With an LS

[low carbon]

yike

[solemn inlet]

Still like that maloo tho

[low carbon]

i love how useless they are

[solemn inlet]

"Tradies ute"

But yOu cAnT 4x4 in iT

[low carbon]

they shouldve mass produced the monaro vf

[solemn inlet]

Yeah

[low carbon]

the coupe 60 probably the best looking holden ever

[solemn inlet]

All the old holdens

[low carbon]

hnggggggg

thats so hot

[solemn inlet]

OOoh

Wait wait

[low carbon]

concept only :(

[solemn inlet]

That back end is

[low carbon]

no thanks

[solemn inlet]

It is sad GM fucked holden

Like holden and ford was what australia was about

[low carbon]

there was no money in it

[solemn inlet]

Mhm

[low carbon]

look at how abysmal ss sales were in the states

[solemn inlet]

Yeah

[low carbon]

holden just deserved a better death

[dense shard]

GM didn't exactly market the SS.

[solemn inlet]

Colorado Sports Cat

[low carbon]

lmaoooo

idk whats worse

the sports cat or walkinshaw having to use the torque of the amarok instead of the power

w580 amarok yeah bet

[solemn inlet]

Lmao

[low carbon]

w190 doesnt quite roll off the tongue

[solemn inlet]

Yeah

The ute I really want is a 2018 BT-50

But you know

[low carbon]

just get a ranger lol

[solemn inlet]

Shitty EGR coolers failing and destroying your engine

Mates got a ranger

Good shit

D-max is just a 2021 BT-50

[low carbon]

yep

well more like the 50 is a d max

[solemn inlet]

Yeah

But that 5 cyl diesel in them is so nice

[low carbon]

huh

you mean of the last gen

[solemn inlet]

5 cyl 3.2L

Yeah

[low carbon]

ye they good

5cyl diesels mmm

i mean 5cyl anything

[solemn inlet]

And youre gold

240hp at 450nm?

I forgot

[low carbon]

no lol

tuned maybe

[solemn inlet]

200hp 400nm

[low carbon]

yep

[solemn inlet]

Yeah thats a lot more than my gen

[low carbon]

laughs in amarok tho

theyre so expensive tho for the v6

[solemn inlet]

Shitbox?

[low carbon]

best driving ute on the market

but as with most euros

[solemn inlet]

I wouldnt take it 4x4

[low carbon]

fuck driving one without a warranty

[solemn inlet]

^^^

[low carbon]

they good off road tho

given that they dont have low range (for auto)

[solemn inlet]

Really?

The fuck

[low carbon]

yep for 80% of what most people do

aftermarket support isnt as big as the other utes tho

[solemn inlet]

Yeah

Patrol has a huge after market

[low carbon]

ive heard the opposite

[solemn inlet]

But the co-vid tax on them is stupid

[low carbon]

i heard aftermarket support for the patrol isnt nearly as good as the lc200

amaroks look so good

[solemn inlet]

That what was told, dont own a patrol, would like one tho

They look good

[solemn inlet]

Looks like a future trophy truck

[low carbon]

ooh

you just reminded me

not an amarok but

[dense shard]

Rumors are the next Amarok will be based on a Ford platform.

[solemn inlet]

Oh boy

[low carbon]

its been confirmed monte.

[solemn inlet]

I love the 5000 - 7000 pound trophy trucks

[low carbon]

https://youtu.be/qdvXL8TAn7w

that looks fun

[low carbon]

thing is that a ranger raptor can do what that amarok did stock

[solemn inlet]

Raptor is a truck stock tho

Just by looks and what not

Amarok is like a work / luxury

[low carbon]

similar price tho

[solemn inlet]

Yeah

[low carbon]

would rather have the amarok any day tho

the v6 hisses

[solemn inlet]

Yup

[low carbon]

lol i once saw one with pilot sport 4s

[solemn inlet]

What you think about the v8 in the 79 series

[low carbon]

they good

[solemn inlet]

Those are fucking mean with 3 inch exhausts

[solemn inlet]

That fuel door

[low carbon]

lol

just realised that lol

[solemn inlet]

4 inch

https://youtu.be/aZeSP20g63M

[low carbon]

so expensive those

no wonder people get patrols

https://youtu.be/YUtMOLGfqQM

[solemn inlet]

Lmao

[low carbon]

https://youtu.be/T7D8bWpdgsQ

[solemn inlet]

TD42

[low carbon]

the y62s are what 20k cheaper than the lc200

yeah lol the ti-l is 30k+ more than an lc200 sahara

[solemn inlet]

Yup

[low carbon]

less*

the ground clearance is essentially the same as a lc200 with a 2" lift anyway

plus its nice not having to bother with dpf and egr

[solemn inlet]

Patrols have that really nice turbo sound to them

[low carbon]

in nz you can get a supercharged tundra for 185k

5 tonne towing yeehaw

[solemn inlet]

Thats a pog

[low carbon]

https://youtu.be/DuS21IVSa3o

what

the

fuck

[pliant sandal]

My car doesn’t like the Tennessee snow and decided to get itself stuck

Parked my car went to get out and it slid sideways

[low carbon]

its telling you to do skids

[charred depot]

same happened to us in a parking lot, started sliding very close to the car next to us

they plowed the entrance but none of the parking spaces or exit

[sterile holly]

so do donuts in the parking lot like a normal person

or, use winter tires for winter so you get traction

you can't expect low profile tires to perform in snow

[stoic ledge]

Winter tires can have a lower profile than summer tires

[charred depot]

snow tyres would rot before we even put 5% of wear on them

[low carbon]

oh but hurr durr all seasons bad

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[fathom socket]

I had the dumb dumb idea of swapping me rear wheels with the front ones

[fossil imp]

whats dumb about it, thats a good way to balance tyre wear

unless your fronts were completely bald ofc 😄

[fathom socket]

my rear tyres are all season

[fossil imp]

so?

[fathom socket]

and I've noticed my lugnuts are rusting really badly

[fossil imp]

replace them then

or sand em down n repaint

ez

and/or re-lacquer

[fathom socket]

I need to find normal bolt nuts then

[fossil imp]

n make sure u are using copper grease on the threads

[fathom socket]

huh?

[fossil imp]

u always put copper grease inside the lugnuts and on the threads

[fathom socket]

I've only taken wheel once in my life

and replaced it with spare

[fossil imp]

ok well im giving u advice to make it easier if u need to do it again

[fathom socket]

I'm just curious how much traction have those all season ones compared to my winter tyres

[fossil imp]

in which conditions? winter tyres will always provide more traction in sub 0/icey/snow conditions

[fathom socket]

snow conditions

mostly

[fossil imp]

especially under braking

[fathom socket]

my car can't make up the hill I have under my home

unless I get enough speed

[fossil imp]

yea well winter tyres wont completely stop a lack of traction in snow

[fathom socket]

that poor fiat didn't last long

[compact thorn]

yep

[split notch]

I just use summer tyres year round lmao

I hardly drive my car in winter because of the salt, and if I am, then its just ezed dorifto time

[fair bronze]

Until your front wheels go dorifto

[fathom socket]

Isn't that power sliding?

[fathom socket]

Donuts are really just free snow removal

The all-seasons I run on my van are severe snow rated and do excellently in the snow and ice.

[fathom socket]

that doesn't look that bad of damage but I don't really know how hard did it hit

[charred depot]

its probably repairable but it doesent have an agreed value on the insurance

so he could get royally fecked

[fathom socket]

my moms toyota was super badly damaged

the hood bent and lamps fell off

and the crashbar was gone

but the police said

fuck it you can drive home

meanwhile the mercedes had go to a mechanic on a towtruck

[fathom socket]

aw shit man

my condolences to you and your car 😔

[charred depot]

someone i knows car

[fathom socket]

aw

the mini didn't deserve that

no mini does

[charred depot]

still sad to see a classic ruined by some careless driver not even slowing down slightly for the junction

[fathom socket]

exactly

[charred depot]

their fiesta is easily replaced

[fathom socket]

but this classic

is a piece of history

it can't be brought back as easily as a fiesta

my dream rn is to get a shelby cobra, but with how much the original mints are, i'd rather get a replica at this point

[dense shard]

Give it 40 years and the fiesta will also be rare

[fathom socket]

what about focus

[dense shard]

Same

[fathom socket]

They are still common AF

[dense shard]

Give it time

[fathom socket]

But I think most of them turn in to rust dust

Like the rear of my car

[sage ledge]

Rip the mini's headlight

[vocal mural]

DRL lights are stupid

People often drive with DRL lights on in the dark and most people don’t know if that DRL lights are on there is no back light on.

[stoic ledge]

DRL's aren't stupid, the people who don't use them as intended are

[dense shard]

That's why a lot of new cars have auto headlights

[stoic ledge]

Ah yes, so people drive around with no lights when it's foggy

[fathom socket]

my focus has auto lights

turn ignition on

and lights are on no matter what

I mean if you turn on the engine

[stoic ledge]

My parents car had auto lights, but they never used that feature lol, the always toggled between on/off themselves Their current car doesn't have it but I didn't care to look for one which did as they didn't use it

In the winter I have the lights in the "on" position 24/7

Engine on -> lights on, engine off -> lights off

[fathom socket]

I need headlights on here 24/7

and DRL are stupid because people don't know how to use them

and I don't see a point of getting them installed on my car

[stoic ledge]

DRLs themselves aren't stupid, the intention is great. The drivers are stupid tho

[dense shard]

Look cool

[fathom socket]

maybe in modern cars

[dense shard]

I have a modern car

[fathom socket]

I have modernish car

there are possibly headlights for my car that have DRL

but I don't want to be bothered forgetting turning them on and switching to headlights when I need them

because I'll forget and cause danger

[dense shard]

It's pretty obvious at night

[fathom socket]

I still see people driving on DRL during night

[dense shard]

They're idiots

[fathom socket]

idk why

I've moved from Greater poland to kujawsko-pomorskie

and I see a lot of people driving on DRL during night

[dense shard]

No clue where that is tbh

Southern?

Near a border?

[fathom socket]

google

[dense shard]

At work...

[dense shard]

I see.

Have family in Poznań

[fathom socket]

this region feels poor compared when I lived in Poznań

[vocal mural]

I have once been in Poland. In 2018 between Swinousjie and Szczecin.

I often travel between the Netherlands and Sweden

[fathom socket]

the famous Świnoujście

[vocal mural]

Normally over Denmark (Great Belt fixed link and Öresund bridge) but I wanted to take a other way back then

[charred depot]

my drl's and headlights share a bulb on the dash

too expensive to have a second bulb :^)

[fathom socket]

I drive everywhere in poland

[charred depot]

not that i cant tell the difference

[fathom socket]

it was hell to drive from to Kraków

I drove 13 hours with short breaks

had to pickup my mom from there

I find that ford makes uncomfortable seats

but it feels like heven compared the the aftermarket seats the Mercedes van had

[vocal mural]

Swinemünde in German

[charred depot]

im comfortable in most seats but i weigh about 2 kilograms

[fathom socket]

I weight in the 3 digits

but also I'm giant

[charred depot]

barely 5 foot 7

[fathom socket]

I'm like 1.93 meters

[charred depot]

crikey

[fathom socket]

and big boned

not the excuse to be heavy

[charred depot]

im friends with someone thats a giant aswell who also drives a mazda 2

funny seeing him getting out of it

[fathom socket]

I'm just unnaturally wide

[vocal mural]

2 Kg? That is 2 cartons of milk

[charred depot]

minor exaggeration

got another friend who is short but has giant feet

couldnt wear shoes in his little peugoet 206 else hed hit all the pedals

im 19 and people guess my age as 13 :^ |

[fathom socket]

try

POLONEZ CARO

[charred depot]

looks epic

[fathom socket]

I can't fit in opel corsa C

[charred depot]

count yourself lucky i guess

[fathom socket]

renault clio 1 2 and 3 are way too small for me

[fathom socket]

why?

[charred depot]

people do all kinds of tasteful modifications to corsa c's here

[fathom socket]

it was stock

[charred depot]

barely see a stock one left now

[fathom socket]

but I bearly see any old toyotas and hondas

anything older than 2000's

[charred depot]

our 2002 civic is a rarity now despite our neglect

[fathom socket]

my street is full of ford focuses

I've counted 13 one day

the first gen

[charred depot]

not seen a first gen in ages

some 2nd gens

[scarlet fulcrum]

“Talk about how 4 bangers suck” this is so “hello fellow kids what’s popping in the niz nat news”

[fathom socket]

mine starts to rust

I could save it

but I have 0 money atm

[scarlet fulcrum]

I’m gonna run twin turbos on my car so I can blow it up

[fathom socket]

I could eat the engine

[charred depot]

my plastic side skirts are hiding the pinch welds for the most part but where theres holes for the jack its bad

[scarlet fulcrum]

No need the TT will start to kill the engine itself as soon as oil runs through them

[charred depot]

my driveways not very safe for working on cars so i dont get much time under them

[fathom socket]

lets see

[charred depot]

i go under with a spare tyre next to me incase it slides

[scarlet fulcrum]

You have a driveway?

[charred depot]

a very steep one yes

[scarlet fulcrum]

I have this thing called a patch of grass

[charred depot]

probably be safer

i measured my garage and if i manage to get it 100% cleared out it would only fit a 4.4m long car at maximum

[vocal mural]

How to not get your car stolen in the US: ||G||||e||||t|| ||a|| ||m||||a||||n||||u||||a||||l||.

[charred depot]

garage used to be longer but part of it was stolen for the kitchen

[fathom socket]

this was just 1 giant hole

[charred depot]

underside looks better than mazda

[fathom socket]

and I've just realised how little crash structure my car has between rear bumper and the LPG tank

[charred depot]

if you look at the crash tests of my car the spare tyre is part of the structure heh

[vocal mural]

A really funny video about cars with DAF VarioMatic transmission in the late 70's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7ipFApsFec

[charred depot]

thatd be great for single track roads with no passing places until you overcorrect heh

[fathom socket]

wait

can actually as toyota hybrid go as fast in reverse as forwards?

or it is limited

[charred depot]

probably limited on anything modern that has the possibility of doing it fast

[vocal mural]

The DAF with VarioMatic? Yes. For a couple of years (When it was in production) they held comptitions for that 😂

[stoic ledge]

https://youtu.be/S7ipFApsFec

They should bring races like that back

Too bad it'll never happen with modern health and safety regulations

Lol I didn't scroll up far enough

https://youtu.be/lLgPTJWAysY

[vocal mural]

It was held in Valkenswaard (by Eindhoven) then

[stoic ledge]

[stoic ledge]

[fathom socket]

love soft-body physics

[stoic ledge]

[unborn cedar]

beamng

[fathom socket]

Would play the multiplayer mod

[gilded garnet]

Cars go beep beep

[low carbon]

https://youtu.be/vA9Fpzdn1gE?t=168

thats quick af

[fathom socket]

it is fast

very fast

[solemn inlet]

Just replaced the thermostat on my diesel, it was stuck hard

[sterile holly]

looks like a very warm winter over there

[stoic ledge]

Southern hemisphere == summer now

[low carbon]

must be an american

@stoic ledge trying not to place a deposit on this

[fathom socket]

Oh God

It's - 5°c outside and it's raining

I've encountered ice on the parking lot and even boring like on the clutch my car couldn't stop

[stoic ledge]

It's a VW: don't

[fathom socket]

Is this Passat or golf?

[low carbon]

Golf R wagon

@stoic ledge eat my ass

We also don’t have opels here not like I’d ever consider one

[fathom socket]

My humble ride

[elfin sequoia]

oh look i found its twin

[low carbon]

skodas are great. got a kodiaq rs for family duties

tdi or tsi?

[fathom socket]

it seems everyone is buying skodas now instead of VW here

[low carbon]

what country

[fathom socket]

poland

[low carbon]

oh interesting

[fathom socket]

it's basically VW but cheaper

[low carbon]

and usually better lol

[fathom socket]

and vw is like

O shit! why everyone is buying skodas instead of vw

[low carbon]

yep

then they basically said skoda needs to be shit again

so probably wont be getting another skoda. two in two years is enough

[fathom socket]

my ride

idk

[vagrant dune]

My ride

[uneven kestrel]

Mondeo?

[low carbon]

bruh lol

[fathom socket]

fOcus

[vagrant dune]

So funny I forgot to laugh

[fathom socket]

I know right

very funny

[low carbon]

yeah i wasnt saying lol to the focus joke

the focus st is great but fuck me the interior looks absolute trash

[fathom socket]

just ignore the taped doorhandle

[fathom socket]

you haven't seen true trash interior

[low carbon]

i probably have but ok

[fathom socket]

at least it's ergonomic

[low carbon]

better than the focus interior

[fathom socket]

it's shit

and this is from like car from late 90's

[low carbon]

its fine

[fathom socket]

Tsi

it doesn't make any sence

[low carbon]

nice

[fathom socket]

It may be 20 years old and not that powerful but I like my vrs

[low carbon]

theyre good cars

[fathom socket]

I like my focus

but

multi link suspention

every mechanics tells me that my rear suspension needs to be rebuild

just because bushings went bad

or are on it's way

[livid nimbus]

A solidworks rendering i did recently

[fathom socket]

Did you 3d model that?

[stoic ledge]

[low carbon]

Don’t get why you hate vw group products

Rather my golf than your corsa lmao

[stoic ledge]

Multiple reasons, as they are:

• heavily overpriced
• don't really drive that well
• quite onreliable
  And more to 🇳🇱 :
• Shitty importer which is corrupt AF

Also, imagine comparing a small hatchback to a Golf costing 4x as much

[low carbon]

Polo then

[stoic ledge]

My sister in law has one, basically same year as mine

Tbh mine is more engaging to drive. Also narrower inside and overall less spacious, even while I have a 3 doors and she has a 5-doors

[low carbon]

• heavily overpriced is really a local issue
• don’t really drive that well, ??? depends on the car.
• unreliable, no issues with the three in the garage but mine are newer.

[stoic ledge]

looks at all the 1.4TSI/1.8TSI problems/DSG DQ200/1.6 TDI problems 👀

[low carbon]

Guess what

I don’t have one

So I don’t care

[stoic ledge]

🅱️im

Guess what

Neither do I

[low carbon]

So Opel has never had a widespread issue

Ok then

[stoic ledge]

Not saying that

[low carbon]

No car company is perfect

Hurr durr all vw group products are bad

[stoic ledge]

Opel also had there issues, look at the M32 gearbox and Piston failure 4 of the 1.6 Turbo

[low carbon]

That’s you

[stoic ledge]

Ok then

Go out and make love to your VW then

[low carbon]

You literally said “it’s a vw: no”

You didn’t go into any specifics as to why not to get a Mk7.5 R

It’s not exactly a 1.0 TSI with the DQ200 is it

[stoic ledge]

Very true but it's still an overpriced POS

[low carbon]

Or a mk6 twincharge pos

Overpriced?

What competes with it

[stoic ledge]

Well idk wtf it costs there but it costs the same as a 335i or something here

Which is better in every single way

[low carbon]

€39k

[stoic ledge]

How old

[low carbon]

3 years

And no I will not consider an F31

[stoic ledge]

That's way too much imho but sure if it makes you happy then buy it

[low carbon]

C43 facelift was on the list but not many good ones on the market at the moment

[stoic ledge]

You tag me and ask my opinion, I say no

If you don't want my opinion, don't ask

[low carbon]

Oh it’s stupid I bought my 2015 Mk7 R for €31k 3 years ago but used market is fucked cause COVID

There’s literally cars similar to mine selling for similar prices rn

And the 2017 car I sold in 2019, right now they’re selling at the same price for a higher km low spec car

[stoic ledge]

I know, that's the same here

My brother had an E91, got stolen, got the purchase price back, but couldn't buy the same car back as they were 25% more expensive now

[low carbon]

€43k but shit spec

Who buys silver and doesn’t get black optics

And those wheels are ugly as fuck

[stoic ledge]

Nice

S4 Avant for €43k? Cheap

😛

[low carbon]

Welcome to New Zealand

Prices for euros aren’t as shit as in Europe

[stoic ledge]

What year is that?

[low carbon]

Rather ironic

2017

[stoic ledge]

Ok lemme check

[low carbon]

That car has everything but sport diff

At this point might as well just lease a new car

€1k a month for a C43 estate specced how I want

M340i was on the cards but the new 2021 ones don’t have any fun noises so no thanks

S4 too slow, would get a used then tune

[stoic ledge]

Ok so the cheapest 2017 S4 is €55k, that's not that bad

[low carbon]

RS4 came standard with DRC, too hard for new zealand roads

How many km on that 55k s4

[stoic ledge]

84k

[low carbon]

Hahahahahahaha

Fuck that

[stoic ledge]

Nice color tho

[low carbon]

43k and has 18k km

[stoic ledge]

The lowest mileage S4 for sale has 53k km on it

[low carbon]

Glad I’m not in the Netherlands

[stoic ledge]

[low carbon]

I like being this distance away from you :)

[stoic ledge]

Nice

Look at the best selling cars last year, what a beasts

[low carbon]

Part of me was thinking of financing a GLC63 as a fuck it final hoorah before electric

Top selling car in NZ is the Ford ranger

[fathom socket]

I see XC40's everywhere

[low carbon]

Nice town cars but I just find these small SUVs pointless

[fathom socket]

I guess people like them here because they're good during winter

[low carbon]

A modern V40 would be awesome

Make it a 300hp hybrid

[stoic ledge]

Yeah it's sad the V40 got replaced with a CUV

(the XC40)

[fathom socket]

Having extra ground clearance doesn't hurt

[stoic ledge]

The XC40 is a nice car

But I just want a hatchback/wagon

[low carbon]

Just rather an A3 quattro

Interior not as lush as the XC40 tho

The A3 40 quattro s line spec is so bad in nz

€42k and you don’t even get heated seats

Gotta buy a €2k package for the privilege

[stoic ledge]

Base A3: €35k

Engine: 30 TFSI, 110hp

[low carbon]

In nz we generally don’t bother with shit engines for premium brands

[stoic ledge]

I can't even get a 40 TFSI

Top engine is 35

[low carbon]

Base engine is the 35 lol

[stoic ledge]

[low carbon]

€34k

And even tho the spec is shit it’s probably better than in Europe

[stoic ledge]

Very likely

[low carbon]

The fact that illuminated makeup mirrors is an option in Europe

I take that as an insult

[stoic ledge]

In the last A4 a light in the glovebox was optional

[low carbon]

Oh lol yeah our spec is better

Park assist, adaptive cruise and blind spot detection standard

[stoic ledge]

Park Assist is +€500

Adaptive cruise +€400 (that's not that bad)

[low carbon]

It’s also -dignity if you actually use park assist

Yet I’d still pay for it if there’s a button for it

[stoic ledge]

Can't select blind spot detection on the base trim

[low carbon]

Base trim is advanced trim in nz

[stoic ledge]

Base trim here is some Business trim

As these cars are only bought as company cars tbh

[low carbon]

Yeah no wonder nobody buys new in Europe

Everyone leases cause the rates are cheap and the retail price is high

[stoic ledge]

Well it's especially 🇳🇱 which is bad, Portugal and I think Norway

Those countries all have an added tax

[low carbon]

Yep

[stoic ledge]

You want a V8 Mustang? Sure that'll be €110k for a base model

[low carbon]

No idea how much they cost here

€48ish probably

[stoic ledge]

Well the car is €39k before taxes, €8k VAT, €65k emissions tax

[low carbon]

€75k if you want a roush supercharged

710hp

[stoic ledge]

I can get a 2.3 EcoBoost for that

🙃

[low carbon]

Gross

Mustang without a V8

[stoic ledge]

[low carbon]

Just buy a focus st

[stoic ledge]

Starts from a mere €53330

(Focus ST that is)

Auto +€3300 (so we shall stick with a manual)

Wagon +€1250

[low carbon]

€36k lol

[stoic ledge]

So €55k for a Focus ST Wagon manual

[low carbon]

For an auto

[stoic ledge]

Focus ST Wagon Auto €59255

[low carbon]

Auto only here which is disappointing but then again the only people buying them here are 40yo women

And no wagon

[stoic ledge]

Wagon > all

[low carbon]

You think I don’t know

[stoic ledge]

No but I like to keep mentioning that 🙃

[low carbon]

[stoic ledge]

For €58k I can get a Volvo V60 T8 PHEV (400hp combined) R-Design

So a Focus ST Wagon or a Volvo V60 T8

[low carbon]

Looked at a V60

[stoic ledge]

I know what my choice would be

[low carbon]

Too old man for me

[stoic ledge]

You need to get it like this

[low carbon]

Fast? Meh I guess. Fun? Definitely not

I’m not buying one

[stoic ledge]

[low carbon]

Honestly it’s just too boring

The ideal car is honestly a C43 chassis and steering, AMG 53 mild hybrid drivetrain, and M340i looks

Can’t believe Mercedes is making a better inline 6 (disregarding tuning potential) than BMW

[stoic ledge]

Too bad fast Mercedes are often driven by some wrong types (atleast around here)

[low carbon]

Meh

I drive a Golf R I’m not too fussed on people think of of the yobbos

[stoic ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/maniac-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-gif-5390857

[low carbon]

Yes

Had a guy try drag me at the lights the other day in an evo x

Dunno why he even bothered trying

[stoic ledge]

[low carbon]

I guess that’s the good thing about having a Golf R wagon

Sleeper af

Probably thought it was a 1.4 tsi

[stoic ledge]

People here turn there 1.0 TSI - 1.2 TSI in to a R lookalike

[low carbon]

It’s hard to tell

Thanks to Volkswagen being cheap pricks the mk7.5 r line has essentially the same front bumper as the r

Unlike the mk7

[stoic ledge]

This is a 1.0 TSI 85hp for sale here

[low carbon]

Ugh

Upbadging

[stoic ledge]

Mk6 1.2TSI

[low carbon]

Ffs

Watch that it’s funny

It’s not that bad here

But people will make their Mk6 GTI look like an R

[stoic ledge]

Lol nice

Well it's not like everybody does that here

Most are specced as an R-Line/AMG-Line/M-Sport/S-Line/R-Design here nowadays tho

[low carbon]

Yep

[stoic ledge]

My brothers Volvo is a 2.0 diesel, but it has an R-Design package with twin exhaust

[low carbon]

Nothing wrong with that if it’s factory

320d G20 is the same

[stoic ledge]

Yeah it's factory

His 318i E91 was factory M-Sport as well

before it got stolen

[low carbon]

318i lol

[stoic ledge]

Yes

Well have you seen the prices here

😛

[low carbon]

Wonder how much slower it is than the 320i

[stoic ledge]

Same engine just a lower tune

[low carbon]

The e90 320i is the slowest modern BMW I’ve ever been in

[stoic ledge]

Did drive very well tho

[low carbon]

Meh

For its time good chassis

Better steering than the g20 lol

The g20’s steering is very vague around centre

The C43 actually had the best steering out of the 3 in my experience

[low carbon]

Problem with the C43 is that the twin turbo V6 is super inefficient and the RHD conversion Mercedes did is terrible

[stoic ledge]

Lol

[low carbon]

The foot rest is like 1.5” wide

And the pedals are too offset to the right so left foot braking is bad

[stoic ledge]

Well left foot braking is bad

[low carbon]

How

[stoic ledge]

Left foot is for the clutch

😛

[low carbon]

Didn’t know a C43 was manual

[stoic ledge]

That's why you shouldn't drive a C43

Left foot braking gives you a very jerky ride tho

[low carbon]

How

[stoic ledge]

Because you often still have some gas + braking at the same time

[low carbon]

Nope

Didn’t know you live in the footwell of my car

My foot is never resting on the brake

[stoic ledge]

Also with my left foot I can't really dose the brakes as well as with my right foot

[low carbon]

That’s a you problem

[stoic ledge]

Not saying your resting on the brake

Did I say that?

No

[low carbon]

You implied it

[stoic ledge]

No

[low carbon]

Well that’s the point in saying that

[stoic ledge]

What I meant was when you apply brake to slow down, you might still have some gas applied

That's what I meant

[low carbon]

Well no

Because I take my foot of the gas pedal lmao

[stoic ledge]

Well when you take it of the gas pedal, just move it to the brake pedal

[low carbon]

No

Lazy

Rather move two feet in one axis

[stoic ledge]

I've never seen anybody use his left foot to brake

[low carbon]

Congrats

[stoic ledge]

Thanks

[low carbon]

Very few of my mates do either

I’m ambidextrous when it comes to brakes

If there’s little traffic or on the highway I’ll use one foot

[sterile holly]

one foot only unless you have a manual

[low carbon]

Disagree

[sterile holly]

you will cause a crash eventually if you continue to drive recklessly

[low carbon]

Woah, didn’t know that braking for a corner using my left foot will cause a crash

[sterile holly]

that's why they have driving classes to teach you how to drive

please take drivng classes

[low carbon]

Lol look at you

[sterile holly]

this is a serious issue

[low carbon]

Lmao

[sterile holly]

if a cop were to find you doing that you would get a hefty fine

[low carbon]

Wow really

[sterile holly]

yes

[low carbon]

Didn’t know you knew the law in New Zealand

Go find the subsection for me

[sterile holly]

well don't bring that shit out of NZ then

[low carbon]

Explain how it’s a danger

[sterile holly]

your brain will get confused while driving. especially in stop and go traffic or if someone pulls in front of you quickly

[low carbon]

How?

[sterile holly]

you think you can do it but there is no such thing as multi tasking in a vehicle

[low carbon]

Mine doesn’t

[sterile holly]

your car is not a go kart

[low carbon]

It’s pretty easy. I use my right foot to brake if my left foot is on the foot rest, otherwise it’s the left foot that brakes without any confusion

[sterile holly]

go karts are designed to use two feet. cars are not

[low carbon]

Perhaps I have more mental capacity than you

[sterile holly]

with exception of manual

[low carbon]

What’s the difference between hovering your foot over a clutch than a brake pedal?

[sterile holly]

you must be a teenager

to think that way

[low carbon]

I definitely am not

I’ve never had any issues using my left foot braking technique in my years driving

I have the same dexterity braking in my left foot as my right

No point linking the informative team O’Neil video of left foot braking on the street, you’re far too self righteous for that

Hmm, no replies. Must be trying to dox me for whatever reason, very mature

[split notch]

The only time I left foot brake is when I'm drifting

Theres zero point to left foot braking driving in traffic though

Your engine doesnt like being under braking and power at the same time

[low carbon]

I’m not braking while on the gas pedal.

[split notch]

No, but you might as well just use your right foot

And use your clutch for control

[low carbon]

Of course, I’m talking about driving an auto though.

I prefer to move my two feet in one axis if that makes sense

[split notch]

I get what you mean, but it doesnt make much sense to do it

[low carbon]

I’ve driven like that long enough that it’s just muscle memory

[split notch]

Until its not and you slam on your brakes and accelerator at the same time and fuck your engine

[low carbon]

Never done that, plus most modern cars cut power when you brake and apply gas at the same time

Mine definitely do, I’ve tried it just to see if that’s true and it is lol

[split notch]

Just because you haven't done it yet, doesnt mean you wont do it

Its just better to /not/ have a bad habit of it

For if you drive different cars

[low carbon]

I don’t. All my cars are VW group cars that behave the same.

They’re all dual clutch, so I definitely make sure not to fuck around with the pedals

[split notch]

You don't /currently/

But you aren't keeping yourself open to what might happen

Unless you've got a crystal ball, which would be sick

[low carbon]

In a car I’m not used to I’ll obviously adapt how I drive

[split notch]

Get me next weeks lottery numbers

[low carbon]

Oh so because I left foot brake sometimes that means if I get into a different car I’m not used to and use my right foot I’ll cause a 10 car accident

logic

[split notch]

How do you know it won't happen, though?

[low carbon]

Because that’s how I actually learned to drive

Two pedals two feet

Yes, I learned to drive in an auto

[stoic ledge]

It's weird they teach it like that

[low carbon]

If my left foot isn’t hovering on the brake pedal, it’s on the foot rest and I’ll use my right foot. And in an auto, the brake pedal is generally raised as well

I’m not going to kick my left foot with my right foot then brake haha

But whatever, agree to disagree. Situational awareness is more important anyways

[stoic ledge]

That's true

I just find it odd, especially if they taught it to you like that

[low carbon]

If I remember correctly, I was told not to by the instructor when getting lessons (manual car though). But for my full licence test, I forgot that I wasn’t supposed to and with an auto I did left foot braking and the tester was surprised

[split notch]

Thats cool, I'm a combat driver and I've got a laundry list of driving qualifications and experience, and Id still not recommend a habit of left foot braking

[stoic ledge]

[low carbon]

[stoic ledge]

I'm quite sure the fail you if you do that here

Although it's hard to do in a manual car

[split notch]

Definitely, its a preventable safety

[stoic ledge]

Take your test in an auto, and your license is only valid for an auto

[low carbon]

That’s how it for your ‘restricted’ licence

[split notch]

Ive had my manual license for 7 years

[fathom socket]

left foot braking like Colin McRae

[stoic ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/collin-mc-rae-gif-5940979

[low carbon]

Ha yeah, people say stuff like that and then there’s me left foot braking to a traffic light in an automatic Golf

Perhaps doing LFB a bit of a disservice

[scarlet fulcrum]

Drifting an AWD is hard

[low carbon]

https://youtu.be/jIFhAtbV0D0

[vagrant dune]

Agree to disagree

I driften a friggin 4x4 sisu sk 181

[low carbon]

I just googled what that is and I’m impressed

[inland moth]

Lol my dad did a doughnut in the intersection of a street in a 1966 corvette.

[vagrant dune]

Wasnt exactly fast but I did drift it in a parking lot

[inland moth]

Lol.

[inland moth]

Drifting in the mud near a tree is no fun.

Especially when you’re in the side the tree almost hit...

[vagrant dune]

I've driven this thing in mud that was deep enough to submerge the whole tire

[inland moth]

Lmao.

[vagrant dune]

Slow speed and locks does wonders

[inland moth]

Lol.

Snowmobiling on an ice lake...

And then the ice cracks.

Not fun.

[vagrant dune]

But if I were to get stuck getting out would be impossible

[inland moth]

Literally threw everything in the sled and my brother had to hang on for dear life lol.

[vagrant dune]

And? You wont fall into the ice if you ceep the momentum

[inland moth]

Mhm.

[vagrant dune]

You can drive it on only water if you really wanted

[inland moth]

Lol its like the one time I was skiing and it was like 60 degrees outside and I went over the water.

I wish I had a video of that.

[inland moth]

Correct momentum, yes. But you can’t gain anymore momentum on the water with a snowmobile.

Unless...

Well no.

[vagrant dune]

I mean you can if its powerful enough

[scarlet fulcrum]

Not easy on an 09 charger AWD even though they can slide very easily they grip like hell with AWD

[vagrant dune]

Traction control off and snow = fun times

I drift my A6 quattro all the time in the snow

[inland moth]

Nice.

Slush snow no fun.

Too much drift and lock up.

Unpredictable.

But powder snow fun.

Much more sliding.

[scarlet fulcrum]

I like Black ice drifting LOL

[inland moth]

When you hit the tree it’s the best.

And then you go into a never ending sleep.

[fathom socket]

I've drifted on a parkinglot today

well

it was more ice skating sideways

[stoic ledge]

I went for a drive through the hills

[stoic ledge]

Lidl

[fathom socket]

oh yeah

my 2nd favorite place to drift

right after tesco

always covered in ice

[pallid pivot]

I’m honestly obsessed with the fact that Toyota decided to ship an economy car with butterfly doors

[vagrant dune]

Actually I was at a motonet behind a lidl

[pallid pivot]

Did you attempt to murder an F1 driver while you were there?

[vagrant dune]

Huh?

[pallid pivot]

Context- Fernando Alonso (2x world champ) got wiped out on a bicycle when someone turning into a Lidl didn’t see him coming the opposite way

[vagrant dune]

ohh

[unkempt helm]

i took this in forza

[frank steeple]

could you please turn the stereo to funky mode?

[frank steeple]

no

[unkempt helm]

i dont have a car irl

[frank steeple]

do you have a hotwheels car?

[pallid pivot]

Mine got totalled

[fathom socket]

then play beam.ng drive

[frank steeple]

yes

beam is a better game

[fathom socket]

I drive a totalled car

[pallid pivot]

iRacing supremacy gang

[unkempt helm]

nah my laptop cant run beam ng

[frank steeple]

i drive something that likes to fall apart

aka a 53 year old ford

[fathom socket]

how?

[unkempt helm]

im too broke

[pallid pivot]

Assetto Corsa Competizione is on geforce now

[frank steeple]

hmmm

[fathom socket]

my ford isn't worth fixing if just fixing the suspension costs as much as the car is worth

[frank steeple]

lol

[fathom socket]

and oil leaks

[frank steeple]

it's pretty much all fixed up

[fathom socket]

only fixing major ones

[pallid pivot]

Looks sick ngl

[frank steeple]

we just need to do the bodywork and repaint it

[pallid pivot]

Add RGB

[fathom socket]

looks like something I would crash

[frank steeple]

lol

[pallid pivot]

Strong 70s detective show vibes

[fathom socket]

I don't dare to drive old muscle/pony cars

[frank steeple]

burnside special vibes

my car is basically just the american devil z

oh god

the discord quality

ok better picture

[stray coral]

So car go vroom

[frank steeple]

some don't

such as the one at the bottom of the lake

[proven shell]

I feel like it's pretty easy to grasp the concept that you are doing the generally recognized unsafe thing. Whether you're good at it or not doesn't change that it's not something to promote. I can drive with my knees because my dad always did it and it's normal for me to do unless I'm going at a hard turn, doesn't mean I'm gonna get all antsy or be surprised when someone says "you really shouldn't make a habit of driving with your knees it's not safe" 😐

[proven shell]

Come on man why you gotta bring up the one at the bottom of the lake. It was one time

[frank steeple]

i just gotta

[pallid pivot]

TIL when Ferrari claims a car is a limited run, they’re actually lying lmao

Like they claimed they made 399+1 Enzo and all Enzo cars come with “1 of 399” on them but over 490 unique Enzo cars have been found in the wild

[proven shell]

Yeah but do they all of # of 399 on em???

[pallid pivot]

Nah each one has a plaque with “1 of 399”. I’m sure Ferrari knows the numbers but they would rather not publicly admit

And customers wouldn’t dare sue, lest they lose an allocation on a future special car. Ferrari gets real pissy when you call them out

[proven shell]

Damn ferrari playing mind games for real

[pallid pivot]

Not only do you have to buy all their cars, you also have to spec it with ludicrous options, take it to their overpriced events and never say a bad word and maybe if you’re lucky, you’ll be invited to drop a million dollars on a car. Stockholm syndrome for real (and probably how Nvidia should’ve handled the 3090 release lmao)

[stoic ledge]

Great business model 😛

[civic spoke]

Ferrari is the strongest brand in the world. Regardless of whoever you compare them to.

[pallid pivot]

Yeah, only Lamborghini can match them in terms of loyalty

[vagrant dune]

I mean lambos are literally rebadged audis

Huracan is an r8, urus is an rsq8 etc

[mortal jewel]

corvette zr1 is a epic car

u have to agree

https://tenor.com/view/zr1-burn-drag-corvettezr1-bahjat-gif-14127916

just look at that car

epik

[fathom socket]

Ferrari is a stong car brand, but for me at least it feels like they've not been as strong marketing wise thanks to a lack of f1 championships

not like thats gonna improve too soon either 😬

[dense shard]

Their brand image isn't based on F1 anymore.

It's the rich toy image that sells em these days.

[quiet elk]

^

[dense shard]

And a theme park in Saudi Arabia... or was it Dubai?

[quiet elk]

Plus, during Ferrari's F1 championships, their road cars weren't really that good compared to the other years

[dense shard]

Either you put money into racing or road cars.

[quiet elk]

sure they had a few, but in general they weren't that good

[quiet elk]

now it's going to be more into their road cars, assuming Ferrari's budget for road cars is affected big by their F1 budget

now they'll have a budget cap so

[dense shard]

Everyone whining that a budget cap will ruin F1...

[quiet elk]

it'll only make teams closer

[dense shard]

As if F1 is any good under current rules in which "those who spend most win."

[quiet elk]

not necessarily, Ferrari is the 2nd biggest spender and yet look at their 2020 season

and iirc in 2017-18 they spent more than mercedes and lost as well

[stoic ledge]

Having more money doesn't imply you'll win

[fathom socket]

its hoped the new regs in 2022 combined with the cost cap will level the playing field enough that teams will be able to equalise in performance reasonably soon

orr mercedes will manage to have the best car for the next 6 seasons in a row...

[quiet elk]

being realistic we'll never see F1 with the teams being reasonably equal in performance, there'll always be a clear best car, but we can hope to see a top 3 title fight again

[fathom socket]

yeah thats what i expect from the regs

[quiet elk]

new engines in 2025, so there's a chance we won't, however Mercedes prepared for the 2014 spec engine in 2008 so...

[fathom socket]

the main issue with F1 rn aside from merc winning every championship pretty easy is the lack of close racing, which 2022 aims to solve and i really hope it does

[quiet elk]

historically there's always been a best car, Fangio jumped teams to get the best car, in the 60s there was Lotus having the best car for some seasons, then still Lotus for some years in the 70s, in some years Ferrari, some McLaren, then the 80s the dominant mclarens and williams, 90s the benetton and williams followed by mclaren in the very start and very end, then the clearly superior Ferrari from 2000-2004, 2005-6 the Renault was a clear winner, then until 2010 yeah there wasn't a clear best car, and imo that was a great couple of years for F1

long text my bad

[fathom socket]

inb4 the 2025 engines are a whole new kind of engine that Mercedes has been working on since the early 90s...

[quiet elk]

knowing mercedes, they'll likely have already started working on them, while other teams haven't given it much focus yet, which is why Mercedes was a whole new level of good in 2014, they simply prepared a lot more than everyone else

[fathom socket]

Didn't they also know some stuff about the regs before they were announced?

if im not mistaken, Renault were the ones to push for the v6s

[quiet elk]

no idea about that

[low carbon]

Unlike driving with your knees you can maintain full control and precision of the brake pedal with your left foot if you’ve driven like that your entire life. Can’t exactly make a lock to lock turn with your knees can you.

NHTSA did a study a while back on pedal application errors which included using both feet:

"DRSs commented that clients who began driving with both feet late in their driving careers have been more likely to make pedal application errors; both-footed driving does not seem to be a problem for those who have driven with both feet all their lives.”

[low carbon]

Lmao one of my mates and his flatmates broke down cause one of the flatmates didn’t torque his oil filter right and it fell out on the motorway

[dense shard]

ouch

[vast harness]

Getting a whole race karting package with two karts be and my brother are splitting the cost 50/50

[quiet elk]

that's dope, i hope you enjoy it :)

[low carbon]

Sick

Oooof

Turns out he bought an oil filter with a different thread pitch haha

[dense shard]

ah, ouch

[proven shell]

I've been hybrid knee hand driving my whole licensed life, I obviously switch depending on the situation and wouldn't attempt a lock to lock turn with my knees (what an absolutely brain dead question I might add) which is my point, it's just kinda shilly to blame others for advising against a recognized unsafe practice as opposed to presenting non anecdotal references to why its okay or aknowledging the issues with it. I can tell you in my car in my hands my knees will never present an issue. But I'd never tell anyone else that makes it okay even if it's something so natural for me because for them it probably wouldn't be

[charred depot]

yeah i wouldnt go in anyones car who uses their knees at any point

not sure what crazy seat position your in to make that possible anyway

[proven shell]

And I fully respect that, only person who gets to see me drive like that is my girlfriend

[dense shard]

A lot of cars had a fairly low seating position.

I balance my hand on my knee on longer trips.

[charred depot]

id have to physically lift my leg up to steer with it

[dense shard]

I just move my foot closer to the seat.

[proven shell]

Ah I'm a bit tall and typically my seats end up adjusted so that it just works out. I've been in cars where it doesn't and in those circumstances I don't go out of my way to make it possible

[charred depot]

im barely 5 foot 7 and my seat is nearly fully back

[proven shell]

I just curse the car for making me work different

[charred depot]

i have it set so i can lock my knee in place on the clutch

[dense shard]

RHD was a bit annoying for me.

Didn't have an arm rest.

[charred depot]

i couldnt think of a opportunity id have to steer with my knee outside of doing 5mph on the motorway

[dense shard]

Only for long stretches of interstate.

Can't do the knee balance trick when shifting.

[charred depot]

ours are still reasonably bendy and filled with potholes

and most of the time im getting blown about when i pass a truck

[dense shard]

Yeah. I keep a hand on the wheel at all times.