Just look at Ford.
#cars
civic girder
I know, Ford interiors are ass
dense shard
ass range isn't important if you commute.
civic girder
it can be
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infrastructure is still nonexistent
dense shard
We have plugs at home.
civic girder
doesn't matter if you do more than just commute in a day
dense shard
Which most don't.
civic girder
especially if you have a lower range EV
dense shard
And a lot of American households have multiple cars.
full bough
And I can drive down the street and find two different places with Tesla “super chargers”. In a town of 50,000 people
civic girder
yea, something similar to that here as well.
dense shard
But I'd need a second car for longer trips.
Incidentally I'm looking for a second car.
civic girder
95% of the public chargers anywhere near here aren't Tesla compatible either
dense shard
I might be done with looking for a 4Runner.
full bough
Same. But I couldn’t give up my truck. The raging snow storm outside currently says so.
dense shard
I can either overpay for a junker 4Runner or buy a Grand Cherokee.
full bough
I can either overpay for a junker 4Runner or buy a Grand Cherokee.
We just got my fiancé a grand Cherokee
We like it
civic girder
oof, Chrysler
dense shard
10k for a 4Runner with 200k on the clock is arguably worth it.
And an early GC will offer everything a 4Runner will at literally a quarter of the price.
full bough
Oh, ours isn’t an early model Grand Cherokee.
civic girder
what about the rest of the car
dense shard
Either been fixed or replaced.
civic girder
It is incredibly rare I see a GC that isn't rusted to hell and back
full bough
Yeah idk what he is talking about, my father in law has a 20 year old wrangler that is bulletproof
civic girder
¯_(ツ)_/¯
dense shard
Only two 4Runners I can justify are a 150k cursed V6, and a 240k cursed V8.
And both are pushing 8k.
full bough
Nah.
dense shard
The V6 has been wrecked twice, been in two other accidents, and has been utterly messed up by hail or something.
The V8 is even more special. It's the only 4Runner in the world to have had a 2UZ replaced.
civic girder
whack
vast harness
any reccomedations for SA-2015 or SA-2020 helmets?
junior plaza
because sometimes my friend bike braeks
and also because i want to do wheelis on em
split notch
You dont need pegs to do a wheely
charred depot
ill get an electric car once you can get them functional as cheap as 2 grand heh
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I thin I'll do a license for motorcycles
and get an electric motorcycle
IF I can move to Switzerland
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doesn't matter if you do more than just commute in a day
Me, who drives about 50mi a day and charges his BEV every 2nd or 3rd day using a normal household plug.
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I can't even charge at home
would be easier in Switzerland since there are plenty of chargers there
there is actually only 1 Ev charger in my city
stoic ledge
My town only has one, AC only so max 22kW (on specific cars like the Zoe or something, most cars are just regular 3-phase so 11kW)
But it's a small town so it's understandable
I could charge it on my own driveway tho
fathom socket
Heh... my EV's onboard charger only can handle 7.2kW AC.
So I can't even fully utilize 11kW charging.
And for everything else, I have my Joy-vehicle, which is a gasoline ATV.
fathom socket
Camo 👍
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Thats Multicam, isnt it?
civic spoke
ill get an electric car once you can get them functional as cheap as 2 grand heh
Never going to happen due to the raw cost of batteries.
Unless you want the shell of a car.
stoic ledge
Heh... my EV's onboard charger only can handle 7.2kW AC.
*So I can't even fully ...
1x32A 
split notch
Thats Multicam, isnt it?
MTP.
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ill get an electric car once you can get them functional as cheap as 2 grand heh
Well... One kWh of batteries costs roughly 100 bucks.
So.. If u get a Twizy, one grand for the battery, in theory it could be as low as 2 grand somewhen in (near?) future
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Hydrogen fuel cells are the future
Yes and no.
Hydrogen fuel cells are "a" future, not "the" future.
It all matters about price-performance.
Building a battery is easier than building a fuel cell.
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It all matters about price-performance.
Building a battery is easier than buildi...
What's important are the specs each tech does have in dis/advantage and at which use cases is preferrable.
On cars, trucks and trains, u have infrastructure in place and dont need to traverse long distances (without it) and weight is not a primary concern, so range per weight (energy density) is not a primary concern.
On the other hand, you have planes and ships, which primary concerns are range & weight. There, the fuel cell is in advantage over batteries.
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What's important are the specs each tech does have in dis/advantage and at which...
An exception on the message stated above are ships and planes which are by infrastructure meant for local ranges only (like a ferry or a domestic plane).
-- Batteries
...as well as some trains and trucks which indeed have to traverse exceptional long distances without given (power based) infrastructure like the Trans-Siberian Railway.
-- FuelCells
civic spoke
Hydrogen fuel cells are the future
Problem is the refueling of the hydrogen. If you're able to charge an EV at home, then that's 50 times easier for you.
The hydrogen fueling network stinks right now.
split notch
Problem is the refueling of the hydrogen. If you're able to charge an EV at home...
Its no harder than going to a petrol station
split notch
It all matters about price-performance.
Building a battery is easier than buildi...
Tell that to the kids in africa mining lithium
civic spoke
Its no harder than going to a petrol station
The problem is finding a station. That's what I mean.
As of January 2021, there were 45 publicly accessible stations in USA.
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Tell that to the kids in africa mining lithium
I cant argue much on that as I'm not that well informed in the mining business. But a general rule to apply is: If you want to blame something, u better give (more than one) source(s).
Generally speaking though, Lithium is one of the least used materials in a "Lithium-Ion" Accumulator
stoic ledge
As of January 2021, there were 45 publicly accessible stations in USA.
Well that was also the problem with gas 100 years ago, look at us now
civic spoke
Well that was also the problem with gas 100 years ago, look at us now <a:0_PogLi...
Transporting hydrogen is also a B-word.
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I wouldnt want to have a hydrogen powered car though. Its electrical to mechanical energy conversion efficiency is way below that of "true" battery electric vehicles, although the manufacturing process takes more energy.
Also the fuel tanks for the hydrogen cells are made out of titanium, which also isnt that easy to mass produce.
stoic ledge
Imho there're plenty of useful usecases
I wouldn't be surprised if in the future we have the option between hydrogen and EV cars
civic spoke
Btw, 43 out of those 45 stations is found in California.
fathom socket
Mass production for (hydrogen) fuel cells isnt as profitable and viable as for batteries
stoic ledge
In California hydrogen cars are more "common"
Why wouldn't it be as profitable?
Even Toyota stayed if it the Mirai (previous one) wasn't hand-built but mass produced like a Prius, it wouldn't cost more than a Prius
civic spoke
They are what? $50k?
civic spoke
Handbuilt in this case really just means "We didn't want to spend our money buying the machinery to mass produce the vehicle"
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I would say most people who would consider an electric vehicle wouldnt consider a fuel cell -vehicle, as it contradicts two major aspects a battery electric vehicle does give you and may be a major selling point.
stoic ledge
No, it meant the demand wasn't high enough as there aren't enough hydrogen stations
The new Mirai got like 20k less expensive
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I would say most people who would consider an electric vehicle wouldnt consider ...
Which is the ability to charge at home, at friends and the availability of "juice" everywhere in the world, even in the wilderness. Regardless of the country you're currently in.
stoic ledge
Many people who'd consider an ICE would consider a Hydrogen car as it gives them the flexibility of "refueling" it minutes
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Many people who'd consider an ICE would consider a Hydrogen car as it gives them...
ICE?
civic spoke
It's far easier to expand a charging network for EV's. Since every city already have power lines running through them.
Internal Combustion Engine.
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Internal Combustion Engine.
Oh.. Was confused for a sec because "ICE" is the term for the InterCityExpress in Germany
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But not what I meant
But that also runs on Electricity^^
stoic ledge
Should I use a fast train or a hydrogen car
To make either BEVs or HEV's sustainable, we need more nuclear power plants
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Many people who'd consider an ICE would consider a Hydrogen car as it gives them...
That I would - for the most parts - agree on.
civic spoke
Sucks that people don't want nuclear power plants.
civic spoke
Sis have gotten both of her vaccines. 👀
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To make either BEVs or HEV's sustainable, we need more nuclear power plants
Not really.
It was calculated that the total energy consumption of Germany without Electrical cars is about 800TWh a year.
With a traffic system 100% based on electric vehicles and the result in abdundance of gasoline stations, refineries, storage, transportation, pipelines etc the total energy consumption would go down to about 500TWh.
stoic ledge
Nuclear power is cheap, extremely environmentally friendly, can produce tonnes of power and is extremely safe
Well 80% of germany's power is the result of black coal so not really that sustainable
(idk the exact percentage, but it's a lot)
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Well 80% of germany's power is the result of black coal so not really that susta...
55% of Germany's power generation in 2020 was by renewable power sources.
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55% of Germany's power generation in 2020 was by renewable power sources.
The other side of the coin was, that most of it was generated when it wasnt needed.
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The other side of the coin was, that most of it was generated when it wasnt need...
Great time to produce hydrogen then
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The other side of the coin was, that most of it was generated when it wasnt need...
A fix for that issue would be battery-electric vehicles in a power-to-grid system.
stoic ledge
If overproduction electricity -> create hydrogen
stoic ledge
A fix for that issue would be battery-electric vehicles in a power-to-grid syste...
Yes but also no, you want to leave your house is the battery half empty
fathom socket
If overproduction electricity -> create hydrogen
Or a more energy efficient way: setting up energy storage systems with as least energy loss as possible. Hydrogen is a way to convert electrical power for storage, but its one of the least efficient ones.
stoic ledge
Well creating even more batteries isn't a good way either
fathom socket
Yes but also no, you want to leave your house is the battery half empty
That is dependent on a battery management system.
The tech is meant to utilize a small percentage of your car's battery to help balance the grid.
U always would have enough capacity left to quickly drive somewhere and is inteded that u still have a full battery whenever you need it.
civic spoke
I think most of Sweden's power is produced from hydro?
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Sweden ...
Fossils 5%
Nuclear 22%
water 41%
'renewable' 32%
"Quick numbers" never tell a full story.
In most cases, they only give an example of a specific use case or situation and aren't applicable for larger scales or durations.
civic spoke
I know that we have gone way down on the nuclear.
fathom socket
Ah okay, you're from Sweden
#off-topic message
In that case, a battery electric vehicle could supply your household with energy for a week. (If the car itself and your junction box have compatible hardware for offgrid usage, recommended to let install in regions with outage-risk).
U also could buy a diesel generator instead and run a hand full of devices directly over that... The oldschool way
charred depot
heard my no seatbelt alarm for the first time
apparently my 3kg box was in extreme danger
to be honest it wasnt wrong because the 3 kg box hit my shifter boot plastic bit and put a deep scratch in it
ill get another from u pull it though when covids passed so no bother
vast harness
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/185325409765981/ the body is great on this Tacoma but the mileage is kinda high even for a Tacoma would that be a worth while purchase I am also looking at this Silverado 1500 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3646419168812075/
fathom socket
Any recommdations on pickups with an approx. 8ft bed?
dense shard
Toyota Tundra
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/185325409765981/ the body is great on ...
Watch out for the Silverado 1500's with the 4L60E transmission. They're not very strong and fail quite often.
The Silverado 1500 HD, 2500, 2500 HD, 3500, and 3500 HD all have the 4L80E transmission which is MUCH stronger.
It's possible to swap the 4L60E for a 4L80E in 1500, but it's not a direct bolt up and modifications will be required.
220,000 miles is nothing for the engine in that Silverado and is just getting broken in.
Might wanna stay away from that 2003 Tundra, 371k isn't a whole ton. But it's uncertain whether it was maintained and may be running on borrowed time.
civic girder
Yea, 371k miles is nothing to a Toyota, but only when maintained
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The Toyota and Chevy Silverado are about the best pickups you can get when it comes to engine reliability.
I personally am a bigger fan of the engine in the Silverado because of how many different versions there are, plus the reliability when it has extra power added to it.
That engine is an LM7 5.3l pushrod V8. Iron block, aluminum heads, 2-valves per cylinder.
civic girder
Yea, Toyotas are more of a light duty truck and are more reliable when left stock
fathom socket
They will literally run for fucking forever.
civic girder
yep
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I'm not a huge fan of the Ford pickups, but if you buy one; make sure it has the modular 2-valve SOHC V8, the modular 4-valve DOHC V8, or the 5.0l Coyote DOHC V8.
Stay away from the 3-valve SOHC V8, it was a total piece of shit.
I remember someone told me about the 3 valve ones being crap
it had something with oil clogging
If you want to buy a RAM, the Hemi will go forever. But watch out for the 4.7l SOHC V8. It's pretty bad.
or something like that
civic girder
or if you get a diesel ford, 6.9L or 7.3L Powerstroke
fathom socket
iirc
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it had something with oil clogging
Yeah, it had to do with the oil clogging in the camshaft phasers.
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or if you get a diesel ford, 6.9L or 7.3L Powerstroke
The 6.7l Powerstroke is a great engine though too expensive for most people. The 6.0l Powerstroke is decent when the right mods are done to it.
Stay away from the 6.4l Powerstroke at all costs.
civic girder
isn't the 6.3L absolute garbage
fathom socket
6.3?
civic girder
or am I dumb and thinking of the 6.4
fathom socket
Probably the 6.4l
They made the 6.0l from 2003 through 2007.
The 6.4 from 2008 through 2010.
I wonder why the 6.4l only was made for two years?
quick question
If I take off the valve cover do I need new valve cover gasket?
Not necessarily
civic girder
most of the time, yes
fathom socket
Depends, if you look at it and it still seems to be in good shape. Then fit it back in and reuse it.
civic girder
since chances are, that gasket has been on there for a while
fathom socket
I guess I'll take it as a yes
stoic ledge
How much is it, like 10€?
fathom socket
Probably a good idea then
then I guess I'll won't open it till I get money
Yeah, 192k miles. Definitely replace it if you pull it off.
but actually anyone knows how durable are ford zetec engines?
No idea
I live in the US
stoic ledge
With Ford's yes
fathom socket
Got the manifolds on my brothers truck replaced
It was a pain in the ass
I did it with zero of the bolts breaking though, which is unheard of.
This trick here helps a ton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PKNCVXvZ6w
Just working the bolts back and forth and applying heat if needed goes a long way to making sure you don't have a bad day.
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split notch
RB best engine
civic girder
objectively false
split notch
objectively false
How so?
civic girder
there's no such thing as a best engine
can't dab on my personal opinion
civic girder
there are lots of good motors. And many motors widely seen as dead reliable are still known to have issues
split notch
RB is a ridiculously reliable motor though
civic girder
they have oil consumption problems
some variants have oversized oil passages that can end up with too much oil in the head under high rpm loads
timing belts too
and unsurprisingly, turbos
I will also personally question the reliability of Nissan till the end of time
split notch
RB25DET NEO pog engine
Never had any oil issues or timing issues
or turbo issues, but I don't have a stock turbo anymore
civic girder
from what I've read, the NEO is kinda ass
split notch
Most of them are over 20 years old and still working really strong
split notch
from what I've read, the NEO is kinda ass
Read where? Because it's universally accepted as being Nissans best straight 6 engine
civic girder
nissan forums
split notch
Okay, link me
Because I've never seen any posts on like SAU that says the NEO engines are bad
they are significantly better than the non-NEO RBs
split notch
It doesn't say anything on that post about NEO engines being bad
civic girder
it talks about the neo having short crank snouts that cause oiling issues and oil pump failures
split notch
The only main fault that comes to mind about RB engines is the oil pump, which, N1 pumps are cheap and cheerful and mostly already fitted to exported Skylines and shit
that can cause
CAN
Jumping off a bridge can also lead to you breaking your legs
civic girder
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I've always personally seen/heard that most things Nissan are absolute garbage. While I'm sure the RB is a step above typical Nissan stuff, to say its not without faults is stupid. As much as I love Toyotas and rotaries, I'll be the first to admit they have serious flaws
split notch
and looking into the crank issues
that's people twisting the CAS fully right, and then driving their rev limiter to the high 8000s
imagine my shock when you take the engine beyond what it was designed to do and a part fails
dense shard
Dunno... Nissan makes some durable engines. Just avoid the ones Ghosn got involved in.
The million mile Frontier is a thing.
And the old trucks and Pathfinders are cult classics
stoic ledge
They just use Renault engines here
Except for the GT-R lol
I think everything else comes exclusively with Renault engines
stoic ledge
It's an alliance
split notch
Yeah, Renault has a 43% controlling share of Nissan
stoic ledge
Mitsubishi is also in there somewhere
split notch
It's an alliance
an alliance where Renault has voting shares of Nissan, but Nissan has non voting shares of Renault
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they were gonna stick the CleoRS engine into the Nissan Micra, for a NisMo edition
stoic ledge
Well we all know how that ended
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it didn't
stoic ledge
Yes
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it was just a schnappsidee
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Clio RS and Micra are on the same platform so it probably wasn't that hard to do
stoic ledge
Did you mean puke
split notch
lmao
stoic ledge
God what a hideous car
dense shard
I liked it. Something actually unique
stoic ledge
The second one is a bit better
stoic ledge
That's a Honda tho
dense shard
Yeah, the other choices are boring
split notch
I bet you liked the PT Cruiser and the Fiat Multipla too
dense shard
The most interesting car style wise is the CHR
stoic ledge
Multipla best car
dense shard
I recognize what purpose the PT Cruiser served
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I recognize what purpose the PT Cruiser served
...which?
dense shard
Be a daily beater with cargo space
split notch
Id rather drive literally anything else
charred depot
Just working the bolts back and forth and applying heat if needed goes a long wa...
basically any bolt on a UK car thats 10 years old
charred spoke
Or 3 years if bmw
dense shard
I'd rock a mirage is I had a sporty car
charred spoke
Same
split notch
mirage looks like a normal old person city hatch
dense shard
Brutalist transportation
split notch
ew hybrid
charred spoke
Ye common
dense shard
In the US we get a 2.0, but not dynamic force
stoic ledge
If I'd just have to get a daily with the purpose of doing nothing else like a Mirage, I'd get a Dacia Sandero
The new one is actually a decent car
dense shard
I'd probably get a Sentra. Nearly as cheap
charred spoke
Get a proper American muscle
split notch
id go for a vauxhall astra
charred spoke
Rear end ugly
stoic ledge
Vauxhall Astra is like a class above such car lols
split notch
yeah but its a car that goes places and has decent milage and boot space
charred spoke
Its reliable but ugly
stoic ledge
Almost twice as expensive as a Sandero
split notch
I got it for £2k with 40k
charred spoke
Wouldnt mind a golf
stoic ledge
Ew VW
stoic ledge
charred spoke
U got to respect the v dub
stoic ledge
Never
split notch
lmao, no
charred spoke
Type 2 camper
stoic ledge
I'd rather drive a Mirage than a VW
split notch
the amount of boy racers in their shitty tsfi or whatever the fuck golfs and polos that try and race me
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and then whinge like fuck when they get smoked by an actually fast car
charred spoke
Whats ur dream car tho mines a 1994 toyota supra mk4
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mines is a 1998 Nissan R34 Skyline
charred spoke
Nice
split notch
I also own one.
charred spoke
Prefer 2002 but still good car
split notch
Wym you prefer the 2002? they are the same car lmao
charred spoke
Nah small differences
split notch
Like what?
fathom socket
Whats ur dream car tho mines a 1994 toyota supra mk4
veilside fortune 1993 mazda rx7 (like the one in tokyo drift) or a bmw e30 m3 OR a pretty much any mclaren
charred spoke
Dont like tokyo drift that much but ye thats nice
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and I'm back
Had to school in DMs, but we cleared that up
Bot didn't like me saying no 3 times to 3 different points but that's okay
tokyo drift, pog movie
stoic ledge
Hi Back I'm MK
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2F2F got me into Skylines, but Tokyo Drift got me heavy into JDM
stoic ledge
And yes LMG bot just mutes you like crazy
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My dream car is something that gets me from point a to point b
charred spoke
2fast2furious best
stoic ledge
Pint B? Cheers! 
stoic ledge
fathom socket
I rather buy Linus lambo
charred spoke
Bangin
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Because I don't want to sell my organs
I think focus is a fine car for me
Usually cheap to fix
split notch
whos the guy from Dumferlimine or whatever
civic girder
If you want a CH-R: ||just get a Corolla||
The Corolla is the superior choice anyway
charred depot
the first gens suspension is hardly a money pit or overly complicated
charred depot
@split notch me
unborn cedar
lol
patent basalt
Another update. One month into the Volvo ownership, I fuckin love it.
Some sucker for it a buy here pay here and got in over bis head so I got it cheap lol
vagrant dune
fathom socket
tomorrow it's time to drive the broken ass man tgl
warm sparrow
Another update. One month into the Volvo ownership, I fuckin love it.
😍
I want a wagon one it's so cool
fathom socket
I really don't know what car I would like to have
warm sparrow
all
fathom socket
there are cars that I like
like the 1st gen mx5
but it's too small for me
I also like to look of fiat coupe
but it's a FIAT
warm sparrow
exactly
fathom socket
maybe first gen focus st
or just turbo mine
Or I'll get a lada instead
but being realistic I can only afford to own 1 car
elfin sequoia
stoic ledge
Wagons 
quartz socket
I rather buy Linus lambo
Imagine Linus doin a "pimp my lambo"
fathom socket
wagons are just the perfect to me
strong plume
audi rs6 avant 👍
stoic ledge
BMW 540i xDrive Touring
Or more obtainable, I'll just get a 4 y/o Volvo V60 (in 2 years, so it's the new model) or Insigna B depending on my much I have/want to spend 
elfin sequoia
FCA: Clears throat "hellcat magnum"
stoic ledge
I'd buy that
elfin sequoia
I would buy a hellcat caravan
stoic ledge
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Brian O'Connor mobile
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Brian O'Connor mobile
paul would go with an import
strong plume
paul would go full JDM minivan
split notch
wahts th eone I see most here
Estima?
I know a few dudes with some really done up Nissan Elgrands too
strong plume
like Bisimoto's 1000hp Odyssey
strong plume
well 1029HP to be more exact
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nice
strong plume
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yeah I know it
low carbon
BMW 540i xDrive Touring <:PogWant:619260775135182890>
Prefer the M340i touring but I’m biased
stoic ledge
Prefer the M340i touring but I’m biased
Hi biased I'm MK
I like them both but I like the 5er more
stoic ledge
Terrible joke btw
Ofcourse
stoic ledge
Rather M550i sedan over the 540i touring
But... Touring 
true shell
dense shard
Tiny truck
frank steeple
should i get a blobeye wrx as a reliable winter car?
because i don't think a 53 year old muscle car on all seasons is a good daily
inland moth
because i don't think a 53 year old muscle car on all seasons is a good daily
You should see the 1966 corvette in the snow...
Fun times...
frank steeple
lol
inland moth
And especially when it stalls.
frank steeple
i have a 1967 mercury cougar but it's an auto
dense shard
Dunno if I'd call a 20 year old WRX reliable
A Forester or generic Impreza will be cheaper
Clean ones aren't cheap, and the cheap ones aren't what I'd call reliable
inland moth
i have a 1967 mercury cougar but it's an auto
Lol I can’t drive but especially when the hydronic fluid is frozen for the flip up lights.
Lol and when you have the convertible top down and it rains...
split notch
I like a good subbie
frank steeple
yeah, i would have had hideaway headlights if it weren't for the hydraulics not working in my car lol
frank steeple
yeah but like half of the system was gone
and there's also a kit to convert it to electric which i am going to buy
they should flip up somewhat like this cougar
oh god
the discord quality
bleh
low carbon
should i get a blobeye wrx as a reliable winter car?
Yes
Blobeyes are never a bad idea
fossil imp
if u put it on winter tyres sure
low carbon
depends on where you live
if the snows not that bad you can slap some michelin pilot sport all season 4's and have good performance year round
fossil imp
not jus for snow, sub 0 temps, winters are great with AWD
icey conditions too
otherwise braking is pretty bad
traction isnt an issue
dense shard
100% get winter tires.
All seasons aren't great when you get far enough below freezing.
charred depot
snows all gone here
heady gate
Lucky
charred depot
would of been a grand total of 2-3 weeks snow tyres usage
stoic ledge
Yeah I'm not purchasing a set for the one week they might be usefull
dense shard
Snow tires, or rather winter tires do more than just work on snow.
Below freezing, all season rubber tends to become hard/brittle.
stoic ledge
Imagine having all season
Well for winters here 95% of the time you could basically have winter tires during the morning/evening and summer tires during the day
I'm not going to carry around another set and change them again on my destination
fathom socket
touring estate > all
low carbon
Below freezing, all season rubber tends to become hard/brittle.
depends - european focused all seasons do way better in the snow than american all seasons
and even some snow tyres aren't good on ice
low carbon
you can go and disprove that data then
dense shard
The link you posted shows one brand of tire.
low carbon
your point?
dense shard
My point is that tires between continents more than likely don't vary. I doubt an automaker would spec different tires. They're going to aim for the best performance they're willing to buy.
And in the case of aftermarket tires. I doubt Michelin makes the same tires for two different markets. I imagine the compound is the same across markets.
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they actually do. tyres like the conti dws06 and pilot sport all season 4 aren't sold (next to none at the very least) in europe
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Just checked a US tire website, and all the top recommended tires are not available here lol
low carbon
european all seasons like michelin crossclimate are sold in america though
low carbon
Just checked a US tire website, and all the top recommended tires are not availa...
wait for all the americans to get mad and try prove us wrong
dense shard
You haven't proven yourself right.
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low carbon
bruh
dense shard
depends - european focused all seasons do way better in the snow than american all seasons
Ignoring the fact my comment isn't about all seaons.
low carbon
yes, like a michelin crossclimate will be better in sub zero temps than a dws 06
low carbon
wow, it's almost as if i already said that
dense shard
Okay, so are you talking about brands?
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US Crossclimate is different tho, Crossclimate2 (US) vs Crossclimate Plus (EU)
dense shard
Checks out considering the name difference.
And last I checked. Bridgestone Blizzaks tend to be a benchmark in winter tires.
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in america yes
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Yeah Blizzak LM005 score well across the board
dense shard
Checked a Polish website.
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runs Hankook summer tires 365 days a year
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Ventus Prime 3
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oh nice
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i run the ventus s1 evo2
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annoyingly the evo3 wasn't available when my first set was used up
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what lol
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What
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way cheaper than the pilot sport 4's
and honestly the performance between the two is not as big as the price difference. if i was ballin then obv i'd get the michelins, but the hankooks are very good value
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I don't like cheaping out, but neither do I like overpaying
Ventus Prime 3 scores similar to Primacy 4 etc just being 20-30€ cheaper per tire
In some tests it's even #1
So,
dense shard
Not looking forward to shopping for SUV tires.
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actually they're good enough that tyre reviews have classed hankook as a premium tyre manufacturers among the likes of michelin, goodyear and conti
low carbon
if only my country had a good supply of goodyear f1 asymmetric 5 in smaller sizes
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We put them on 4 cars now, ranging from my Corsa to a E91
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pReMiUm but affordable
just like a skoda
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Idk I don't switch tires that often, got new ones last year so I stopped looking
Ew VAG 🙃
Skoda is also pretty expensive now
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I'm just hoping the factory Yokohamas last me till... well a few years down the road.
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in new zealand theyre well priced
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but due to covid everythings expensie
superb 200kw wagon which comes standard with basically everything is 43.5k euros
dense shard
Well the Yokohamas came stock on the JP built Corollas.
I think the US built ones have something else.
low carbon
bruh what
1.5 tsi in a superb
i could never
the least powerful one in nz is 140kw 2.0 tsi lol
out of the six variants of superb in nz, two are 140kw and four are the 200/206kw
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1.5 TSI is 150hp so 110kW
I think
Idk quick maths in my head
Wait until you see a Ford Mondeo with a 1.0 EcoBoost
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yep
dense shard
soon™️
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don't think they even sell the mondeo here anymore
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Europe already had it
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sucks cause they're nice cars
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They discontinued that trim
dense shard
I'm just happy the US will get a new Fusion/Mondeo.
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Even if it is a pseudo crossover/raised wagon.
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Europe will to, and now not 3 years after the Fusion
dense shard
But a cheaper Subaru Outback? Sure why not.
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The Everest looks cool btw, would drive
low carbon
its a ranger suv
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Yes
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driven one before, they're really nice
way better than other ute based suvs like the toyota fortuner and holden (rip) colorado 7/trailblazer
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dense shard
4Runner platform is getting on in age.
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tell me something new
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hmmm yes interesting, those are all not available here
dense shard
US had the same engine/trans since the early 2000s. lol
low carbon
to think that nissan doesn't want to cash in on what toyota are doing with the 4runner
dense shard
They're doing fine with the Frontier.
They're more focused on the mass market at any rate.
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cause y'all buying those weird mini mpvs
dense shard
I can't imagine taxes being kind on that.
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These are the badass SUVs we have
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2.whatever diesel, 2000kg.
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MPVs? That segment is basically dead
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like the sharan and the other one
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Discontinued
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and the ford galaxy
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Discontinued
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Only the Renault Scenic and Citroen SpaceTourer (C4 Picasso) are the only MPV's left)
Yes, horrendous
MPV > SUV
Way more practical
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Absolutely nobody goes offroad here
dense shard
I live in the right part of the US to give it a go.
low carbon
just like you can't do much off roading in a cr-v
dense shard
A CR-V isn't an SUV.
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Offroading in a FWD Tiguan 1.5 won't get you far either
low carbon
crossovers are called suv's in our parts of the world
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tiguans look weird
dense shard
Gotta love marketing.
low carbon
the allspace looks much better proportioned
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Eitherway. Need to find me a good offroader.
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lexus gx
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Great, give me the 8k to buy a used one.
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Imagine not having a 1.2 16v
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It's amazing just how badly Daimler mangled Chrysler.
Fiat was a step up, and now Stellantis might actually revive it.
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PSA to the rescue
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Well VAG is just a great marketing machine
The products are average at best but their marketing...
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oh no wait. I remember now.
Chrysler bought PSA's American branch.
or rather... AMC/PSA's joint venture in the US.
Turns out buying Jeep was worth everything else.
After about 5 years. Turns out nothing else was worth saving... including Eagle, AMC, uhhhhhhhhh Jeep was worth it.
dense shard
We'll see what they do with Chrysler and Dodge.
They got free income with RAM and Jeep.
dense shard
Grand Caravan is dead.
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Pacifica
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That's... no.
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yes
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I'd buy that
dense shard
There's a reason Chrysler gets passed around like a bong.
low carbon
same
dense shard
Because they don't make anything people need.
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If I didn't have to pay 150k in taxes that is
dense shard
Hemi won't fit anyway.
fathom socket
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they can make it fit
dense shard
Not really...
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yes
dense shard
It's a FWD platform.
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hell put the motor in a crate in the boot
dense shard
And I remember the Impala SS.
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i'll buy it
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Try fitting it in transversal lol
dense shard
Let's not.
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transverse v8 lets fucking go
dense shard
GM did that... and it ended poorly.
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dense shard
Even when they tried to make it work. It ended poorly.
dense shard
not really?
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There's a reason the Rogue is in the top 5 sellers in the US.
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Well what I see in the future for Dodge: new RWD platform, big engines etc
Chrysler: rebranded Peugeots
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Turns out paying for a overpowered gas guzzling anything isn't a huge profit turner.
dense shard
Chrsyler will be rebadged French cars, sure.
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v8 ev
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I know Chrysler in the US is in dire need of a viable EV.
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i mean they do have a 12v battery so theyre halfway there
solemn inlet
You know EV wont take off till way down the track
dense shard
Ford and GM have bough, for better or worse, coughed something up.
Not taking off now, sure.
dense shard
But development and model introduction needs to start sooner than later.
Americans were late to the small car party.
And 2 of the big 3 ended up getting bailed out.
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because they didnt put a hellcat motor in a small car
dense shard
More than once.
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PSA's philosophy is BEV ans ICE/PHEV/... indistinguishable from each other, so dedicated EV brand (for now)
low carbon
thats not my fault is it
dense shard
Sure it is.
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Fun fact: the Chevy Spark EV had more torque than a Ferrari 458
dense shard
If car people dictated products, no one would be in business.
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thicccccc
solemn inlet
Just LS swap it. I dont need my car sounding like a hairdryer
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dense shard
"cool car bro, we'll buy it used"
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But buying new is dumb.
dense shard
something something car depreciates.
solemn inlet
I wish they kept EV outta racing too
dense shard
why
solemn inlet
Its so lame now
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We need wood paneling back
low carbon
something something how are you going to get a used car if nobody buys new
dense shard
Electric F1 is more interesting than watching Lewis Hamilton move to a new team.
solemn inlet
Mate v10 sound better then EV
low carbon
well yeah
dense shard
Those haven't been a thing in well over 20 years.
dense shard
F1 has lost relevance.
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V10? My brother has a V40!
dense shard
EVs are the future.
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🙃
solemn inlet
Plus EV is fucking my mechanical careers
low carbon
v8 hellcat ev
dense shard
Not really?
low carbon
solemn inlet
Eh
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They'll be more prone to software bugs
dense shard
Don't worry. You'll have a job for at least 50 more years.
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low carbon
this is why we need more hellcat pacificas
solemn inlet
Watch the work get hacked and every self driving car take control
solemn inlet
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cant hack into a hellcat
solemn inlet
Dont know how they are gonna get EV trucks to work lol
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Hydrogen
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with a v8
solemn inlet
Long distance my ass
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v8 hellcat generator
low carbon
how about a predator v8 generator for your ev truck
solemn inlet
Nah nah Predator 212 from walmart
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you can get 8 of them
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Just be like the Belgian police
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close enough to a v8
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wouldnt have that issue if you have a hellcat
solemn inlet
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No, supercharger > turbocharger
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both > only one
solemn inlet
Get a supercharger off a diesel locomotive and put that on an LS
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vw 1.4 twincharge > all
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ffs
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theres no such thing as vag
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Yes there is
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Volkswagen AG
solemn inlet
Cut an LS in half and have an v4 LS
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It's not lol
solemn inlet
You know boys, I hope this doesnt happen in our life time where fuel and oil is so rare that you can only have fun in your old cars for a bit at a time
low carbon
but 99% of people say vag for the imaginary volkswagen audi group
this is why we need a government stimulus hellcat
low carbon
meh at least our gas is cheaper than in europe
flint sable
No, supercharger > turbocharger
Agreed
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Idk for that rate you can get cheaper synthetic fuels
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1.19 for diesel here
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ThTAs NoT CHeAp
solemn inlet
Im okay with diesel as my little 2.5L turbo diesel gets 900km to the tank
On a 63 litre tank
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That's not bad at all
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solemn inlet
Shit
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must convert to diesel hellcat
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Just run it on propane
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run it on hobo tears
solemn inlet
NOT a 4 cylinder running less fuel than a v8
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Im ShOoK
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Yes
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Bro v8 diesels are mean af
low carbon
agree
solemn inlet
Duramax
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3-cyl diesels ftw
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Balance shafts for the wiN
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1.0 diesel ram 2500
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1000nm tho
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solemn inlet
I have 2 injectors for each cilinder in my car <:Pogey:613787050021486653>
Overdrive button turns the second one on
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Ah yes
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overboost function makes a monkey add an extra injector
solemn inlet
Or maybe monkey starts peddling
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That's more likely
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A LS is more suitable for a GM car
solemn inlet
Cathell
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But not with €1.75/L
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wsb crowdfunding campaign incoming
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Dont know about you but
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I have that car just 2 gens newer
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Fuck its not cropped
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Gg
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2x C20LET doesn't make it a V8 tho
low carbon
i said OR
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hellcat or dual i4
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solemn inlet
What if they made the Ls bigger
low carbon
i think a hellcat swap would get you closer to ending world hunger
solemn inlet
Like bigger block
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Definitely
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yeah
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/375461451403624471/567119593278013454/IMG_20190211_134126.jpg
Look at all the space
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theres that place in aus that does a 8.2l lsx
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solemn inlet
I see a lot of 6.4L hemi jeeps now
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I'd rather see a 6.4 Hemi
solemn inlet
Just jet engine swap it. For that 10000hp
low carbon
red engine bay adds 400hp
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Ah yes I shall just put a longitudinal engine in it, plenty of space
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red engine bay adds 400hp
I'd say more
ember dove
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yeah easy as
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you need two of them tho
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The chance of finding an LS at a wreckers is 0.000001%
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Maybe someday I will
solemn inlet
Barra goes hard
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barra v12
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Imagine timing to 60km/h
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0-60km in 7 miliseconds