cars

[flint sable]

Yep

[drowsy surge]

so i bought a car

[fathom socket]

Honda

[fathom socket]

i sure do hope you're parking in that parking spot

its parking only!

I park my car on the middle of the road

[warm sparrow]

I drive only on parking spots

watch out you're on the wrong side of the road

[drowsy surge]

we were still at the dealer when i took that picture

also wtf else do you do in a parking spot except parking

dont really get why you have to clarify its for parking only lol

[fathom socket]

Well it only takes one... 😅

[unborn cedar]

Looks like a road I used to drive a lot near Exeter

[crisp jolt]

shopping for a car this would be easier if I could settle on a brand or at least a body style

[fathom socket]

Dont worry i have a very quick and easy solution to your problem

Buy a Renault Twizy

[gusty river]

I would genuinely buy a Twizy if they sold them here, no hesitation

[civic girder]

me thinking about buying more minivans

[crisp jolt]

Need something large enough to move a dog to the vet

[crisp jolt]

If it wasn't for that, it's an interesting car

[pastel ridge]

Looking at upgrading a car screen with one of these it is a 2019 440 I is there any drawbacks

Because I want Android Auto wireless

[vague perch]

My VW Golf 6 1.4

[fathom socket]

[fathom socket]

my 2004 ford focus 1.8 16v

these wheel are ridiculously small

[charred depot]

:^|

[fringe lake]

Any recommendations for a cheap starter car?

Something that'll do 0-60 in less than 5 secs

And isn't a gas guzzler

[fathom socket]

a cheap starter car?

[fringe lake]

lol yeah just for fun

under 10k

[fathom socket]

you'll definitely have to look in the used market for something that good and that cheap

[fringe lake]

Eh used is fine

[fathom socket]

any companies in mind?

[fringe lake]

Anything that won't break down after a month

[fathom socket]

oh damn

i was about to recommend getting an old 911 lol

[fringe lake]

lol

I don't have the money forr parts

[fathom socket]

a 2011 carrera s, is truly a dream

but the problem is maintenance

[fringe lake]

agreed

I ain't an expert on bang bang magic

[fathom socket]

you'll have to look at old chevys

[fringe lake]

Hmm preferably something not american

[fathom socket]

something that can go 0-60 in under 5s, all while being less than 10k, cheap to maintain

[fringe lake]

I was thinking a modded e36

[fathom socket]

bmw's with oem parts aren't cheap to maintain if i'll be honest, BUT THEY'RE A HELL OF A RIDE

[fringe lake]

Yeah, I saw OEM rims go for $2k

Nice ones at that

[fathom socket]

let me be honest, getting modded cars is like getting another man's love and joy, does it really bond the same way with you as it did with him? you'll have to kinda redo everything he's done to it, or just carry on with his set of mods

[fringe lake]

No, modded as in I mod it myself

[fathom socket]

and maintaining a modded car is very fun if you have the means to it

[fathom socket]

ohh

buying it bone stock isn't cheap either

hmm

finding it mint is the problem

[fringe lake]

Oh no that's easy

[fathom socket]

but if you search hard enough, and are dedicated, trust me it'll be a hell of a ride

[fringe lake]

I can get one for $6k easy

200k KM obviously

[fathom socket]

i meant this

[fringe lake]

Ah

Yeah mint is hard

[fathom socket]

a set of fine group of germans would tell you that they last forever

[fringe lake]

But 200k ones are easy to find here, its like $7k or so for a "nice" one

[fathom socket]

200k kms that's around 10 years of daily driving bro

[fringe lake]

Eh, as long as it runs and doesn't break down all the time its fine

Its only a starter for like 4 years lol

[solemn inlet]

I love people who sell toyotas with 450k+km on the dash and sell it for 40 - 50k lol

[fathom socket]

just make sure you don't buy a reall torn down one bro

[fringe lake]

Ah

Still quite a ways from it, maybe 3-5 years

[fathom socket]

toyotas are the epitome of reliability but i feel ya, they depreciate so easily here though

a 2008 yaris with 150k kms is sold for 500 bucks here, on god.

[fringe lake]

i mean its only $500

150k is a lot

[fathom socket]

honestly

[fringe lake]

Their MSRP was like $10k or something

Still are

[fathom socket]

but they still run

[solemn inlet]

Same with nissian patrols

[fathom socket]

and that amazes me

[solemn inlet]

Even tho I want one

[fringe lake]

Oh wait sorry $20k but regardless

[fathom socket]

i have a 2009 armada, 170k kms on the dial, ill never replace it

[charred depot]

theres tonnes of 321k km yaris' going around here

[fringe lake]

The only cars I've ever had were a 2012 Sonata, and a 2019 Baleno (newest one)

[fathom socket]

i've had three german cars break down on me on several occasions, but this beast won't go down

[fringe lake]

Sonata was nice and all until the alternator went kaput multiple times

[fringe lake]

30 year old toyotas be like

[fathom socket]

german cars are built for performance and luxury, but clearly not reliability

[fringe lake]

I know someone who has a 30 year toyota, still runs great

Heck not even toyota

Daihatsu

Their "cheap" brand

[fathom socket]

my uncle's toyota xe is literally the backbone of our family

[fringe lake]

lol

[fathom socket]

it's the one car out of all that will never back down in it's service

[fringe lake]

My uncle has a little Daihatsu Ayla from 2015 that still works great

[fathom socket]

daihatsu is made for small japanese roads so they ought to cater to it

[fringe lake]

That + low income countries

i.e. indonesia

[fathom socket]

yupp

once i become a doctor, i wish to sponsor many people

money is a gift that's meant to be shared

[fringe lake]

i just want someone to put a big V12 in a peel p50

Would be very funny

[fathom socket]

how would it fit

WAIT IMAGINE

[fringe lake]

Strapped to the roof obviously

[fathom socket]

putting a 1300 cc i4 hayabusa motor in a peel p50..

it could work

[fringe lake]

DAMN

It could

[fathom socket]

HAHA

[fringe lake]

Would be terrible for actually driving tho

Wheels are too small

[fathom socket]

bruh V12?

[fringe lake]

Why not

[fathom socket]

a mercedes w270 motor LOL

[fringe lake]

It will fit on the roof

[fathom socket]

imagine

god damn it

[fringe lake]

lol

[fathom socket]

you got me curious

ill try to make it a reality

[fringe lake]

idk there's probably someone on the internet who has done something similar

[fringe lake]

Try finding a p50 first

[fathom socket]

a peel p50 with a 600cc yamaha r6 motor paired to a 6 speed transmission

[fringe lake]

i mean, it would be faster

mini gokart essentially

[fathom socket]

but man lately

i've been looking into getting into motorcycle riding, it's honestly liberating, but i see the dangers, and i don't fear them

but until this darn pandemic's over, i ain't leaving a dollar for such liberty

[fringe lake]

motorcycles are fun

100cc mini ones are very nice

[fathom socket]

pocket rockets haha

[fringe lake]

Heck just for cruising here and there a mint Honda Prima will do a nice job

[fathom socket]

question bro

do you own a motorbike?

[fringe lake]

I want one of those mainly for photography and all

[fringe lake]

bicycle yes, but in the USA not where i am rn

[fathom socket]

a motorbike :0

[fathom socket]

aww

[fringe lake]

nah, ain't allowed to for safety reasons

Tbh its nice

But I have friends who can drive me around w/ their Varios so its fine

And besides, covid means online school

so not much to do out there

[fathom socket]

true :/

but where i live

the outside is beautiful

[fringe lake]

no, like the outside is nice

but

[fathom socket]

and there are places only bikes could trek

[fringe lake]

i have $1500 in tests to take in april/may/june

so i can't exactly rlly go out to do much

It is what it is

[fathom socket]

tests?

[fringe lake]

IGCSEs

[fathom socket]

😔

[fringe lake]

taking 8 of them

[fathom socket]

goddamn bro goodluck

[fringe lake]

gotta get top ranks, so i gotta study

[fathom socket]

i have a younger friend who has to take those as well

[fringe lake]

need to beat this year's record of 7A*s

Aiming for 8A*s

[fathom socket]

goodluck man, with good preparation, you'll definitely make it

[fringe lake]

I was like "uh oh" when I saw my school's post about that 7A* kid lol

[fringe lake]

thx

Most of the stuff is easy, I'm just worried about math, additional math, physics, and maybe spanish

[fathom socket]

i dont know you personally so im not sure if you do this or not, but sleeping well is a really huge factor in your performance, please take sleep to consideration

[fringe lake]

I sleep from 10-12 until 7-9 in the morning

Depends on whether my first class is something I need

[fathom socket]

oh

i sleep from 12-7, i'd sleep sooner but im busy, and life's worth living so i tend to forget to sleep haha

i regret that though.

for the hours i am awake, it's a living nightmare

[fringe lake]

Yeah, 12-7 is too tiring for me

I need 9-10 hours of sleep to function efficiently

Dunno how people deal with 6

[fathom socket]

they clearly have nothing physical to work with

[fringe lake]

likely

[fathom socket]

as a musician and future surgeon, being sleep deprived ruins my entire form

[fringe lake]

Yeah, I don't think you wanna do surgery when sleepy

• instability

[fathom socket]

and mental stress on top of depression

[fringe lake]

true

It is what it is

Life is just how it is sometimes

[fathom socket]

idk why

but i feel like my life is becoming more and more meaningless as i sleep less and less

i've had hobbies before

and now im beginning to lose them

due to not being able to do them at all

studying is stressful

but not being able to enjoy life is even worse

[fringe lake]

i mean that's how it works, less energy = less motivation

If you're too tired you won't wnna do much

I don't wanna do physics questions at 8am

Too tired for that

[fathom socket]

let me tell you the truth

i always try to sleep at 10, but i overthink so much

and i've never napped in i think 11 years now.

[fringe lake]

I nap only when my body is so tired that computer screens don't help

[fathom socket]

been sleep deprived for several months now, ever since my second semester started

[fringe lake]

ouch

[fathom socket]

studying is the root of my issue, there is no flexibility at all

[fringe lake]

i meana, studying is something personal

like

you can study to reach top marks but at what cost

i study to both understand/get top marks

[fathom socket]

i study for the most selfish reason

i just want to prove something to my dad

[fringe lake]

no use in being a nerd who knows nothing

[fringe lake]

That's not selfish, rather an issue with your dad I'd say

[fathom socket]

yeah

[fringe lake]

What are you trying to prove?

[full bough]

This is a car channel

[fathom socket]

me and him have no bond, he never personally sits down and talk, nor do anything, being around him is awkward, so i'd like to prove that i'm able to live on my own one day

[fringe lake]

idk man convo goes brrrrrr sometimes

[fathom socket]

we were talking about cars then deviated lol

[fringe lake]

well, as a person you don't have to prove anything

live your own life

to the best of your ability

that's all

k i gotta get off pretty soon, gn y'all

[fathom socket]

goodnight bro

sleep well

[fringe lake]

thx

[fathom socket]

and goodluck

your welcome 😳

[compact thorn]

Driving gloves... in a BMW..... Where have i seen this before?

[charred depot]

only costs me £8000/y to insure one of those

probably a good thing

[compact thorn]

yikees

[fathom socket]

All of my car doors froze

Including latches

[compact thorn]

oof

if you open 1 door its a lot easier to go to each door and open it from the inside

[fathom socket]

Every single one is shut frozen

Idk how to open frozen latches

[charred depot]

mapp gas

[fathom socket]

I've tried crow bar

It worked on rear hatch

But still can't open from inside

Feels like I'm going to snap door handle

[compact thorn]

wd40?

you have any lock deicer around

what car you got?

[fathom socket]

2004 focus

it unfroze after I drive it with max heat

[gusty river]

Ah yes, the Tesla solution. Heat car for 30 minutes, then you can enter it

[remote ridge]

just take off the doors completely while they are unfrozen and they wont get frozen shut next time

[fathom socket]

tesla is just useless to me

no way to charge it

is super expensive

and charging stations are more expensive than gas

if I had any near me

[gusty river]

EVs definitely aren't for everyone yet, hopefully they're getting there

[fathom socket]

hybrid is the best compromise

[gusty river]

Depends, all the maintenance of both types of systems which is a bit annoying.

[fathom socket]

just living in a city and having pure EV is just a pain

[gusty river]

That's actually the ideal case for an EV, as long as you have charging at home or work.

[fathom socket]

I just love that govrment is forcink people to switch to EVs

while we don't even have infrastructure

[gusty river]

That's partly to force the development of said infrastructure. It's working well where I live (BC, Canada). Very rural, but becoming very possible to travel anywhere with an EV.

[fathom socket]

and like 98% of people don't even have a way to charge them at home here

but still

people here drive like 1000-2000 euro cars

[gusty river]

98%? That seems a bit high to be true

[fathom socket]

when most of the city is just buildings like this

the problem is that there are no garages

[gusty river]

That would make some sense then (98% still seems high). Without a powered parking spot, things are rough for sure.

[fathom socket]

I don't know ho much

bot for sure 90%

or more

If I could get a motorcycle license

[gusty river]

You don't need a garage per se, it's just the most common easy way to have power nearby.
Like a hotel I was at didn't have "charging" available, nor underground parking or anything like that, but they had outlets for block heaters. Usable for charging.

[fathom socket]

would buy an EV bike

[fathom socket]

we sadly don't have that

[gusty river]

The infra will have to come eventually then. We're not sure how it'll happen, but it's not like gas stations popped up everywhere immediately either. At least the electricity is typically somewhat nearby, it's a matter of running access to it.

[fathom socket]

the issue is that I can't run extension cord over the street because that vilates the code

[gusty river]

Yeah no it won't be by extension cords :p

[fathom socket]

and also I live on private property

and gating an outlet installed would be so much cost

and the fact that I'm still too poor to even own a 1000 euro car

[gusty river]

That's why the changes come from the government level. Not meaning to get into a discussion on how governments run, but working into construction code and such at least ensures new construction is accounting for available charging. Retrofitting older buildings will always be a problem (see: hot water, electricity, asbestos)
Ideally that cost is spread out. Good news is you're getting the rich to pay for it first, probably, the early adopters of EVs.

[fathom socket]

rich

maybe I should not

I don't want get too political

[ember dove]

got the winter spec

[limpid pine]

Christ I thought that was a crash at first

That tire looked out of place

[fathom socket]

ngl i did aswell

dirt streaks made it look a bit scuffed or something lol

[ember dove]

lmao

[limpid pine]

Plus I'll assume that's a lot of salt on the car?

[ember dove]

yeah

i gotta find some quarters and give it its weekly pressure washing lol

[fathom socket]

is that the paint or just pure staltage?

[ember dove]

salt

[fathom socket]

bruuuh

[fathom socket]

you drivin in the dead sea or smth?

[limpid pine]

Certainly looks the part

[ember dove]

just WNY

my nice, rust free mazda 3

will not be for long

[limpid pine]

That's what the salt does

[ember dove]

yepp

[limpid pine]

Now that's a sexy shot

[ember dove]

i need it clean with the winters and then a foot deep in snow

[fathom socket]

fwd lol

[ember dove]

fwd lol

Soul red tho

[flint sable]

Brrr

[sinful folio]

whats your fav. car brand

[sinful folio]

is that an accord or a civic

[remote ridge]

So I was thinking of getting one of these for my Mazda 5 but I'm not sure if it would look just way too tacky

I think it could look good for a bit but I'm not sure and don't want to spend the money for something I'll get rid of within a week

[fringe lake]

Depends on how bright the effect is, but it might look good at night assuming its a soft glow

[remote ridge]

I'm hoping for just a bit dimmer than how the Mercedes badge is

[fringe lake]

Ah yeah that would be nice

Sadly lights like these often are way too bright

[charred depot]

rust free

[drowsy surge]

2010 civic

[ember dove]

Yes

[flint sable]

Between Porsche, ford, and koenigsegg

[civic girder]

Toyota and Mazda

[fringe lake]

Nissan, Audi, maybe BMW, maybe Toyota, and definitely Hyundai for the bigger cars

Audi ETron sportscar honestly looks sick afffff

[civic girder]

I better like Toyota since I own 3 of them lmao

And better like Mazda if I own one of their most infamous models

[stoic ledge]

[charred depot]

i own the infamous mazda 2

didnt take off that much suprisingly, cmon guys its a fiesta but better.

[civic girder]

I'd rather have a Mazda 2 than a Fiesta, but Im biased towards Mazda and against Ford

[stoic ledge]

laughs in Fiesta using the same platform as Mazda 2

[civic girder]

That's the irony of it

I'd rather have a Mazda badge than a Ford one

[stoic ledge]

Same

But Mazda 2 BiFuel is horrible -> Corsa Bi-Fuel

[civic girder]

Imagine having two fuel systems

[stoic ledge]

Imagine paying €1.70/liter for regular

[civic girder]

Imagine not living in the US and buying regular only

Wait, the Previa takes premium cause boost 😭

[charred depot]

fuel heres back up to £1.20/l

hopefully doesent go all the way to 1.40 kthx

[stoic ledge]

I put Premium in zhe Corsa

[charred depot]

still have to phone my insurance company

i know they will say lol no, but i will be mad if they say lol no

[fringe lake]

Imagine not paying less than €0.50 for regular

[stoic ledge]

[fringe lake]

yes it costs less than €0.50 where I am for 88 ron

[charred depot]

just get a diesel car and get yourself some red diesel

[stoic ledge]

88 RON is horrible tho

Lol red diesel is illegal lol

[fringe lake]

90 ron is like exactly €0.50

92 is €0.55

[charred depot]

just put some black ink in it

[stoic ledge]

And 95/98?

[fringe lake]

€0.65

for 98

bit more but essentially that

[stoic ledge]

OOF

[fringe lake]

cheap gas go brrrrr

nationally subsidizedddd

[stoic ledge]

Why subsidized?

[fringe lake]

Not subsidized

Owned by the government

Idk i mess those up at times

[stoic ledge]

[fringe lake]

lol

the CEO is a rlly good dude so gas prices very niceeee

he got sent to prison because someone else got offended when he didn't do anything

https://personalfinance.kontan.co.id/news/daftar-harga-bbm-pertamina-terbaru-2021-di-jawa-bali#:~:text=Daftar harga BBM terbaru 2021 di Jawa Bali&text=Subsidi Rp 11.220-,Prov.,Tanah Non-Subsidi Rp 11.220

feel free to take a look lol

convert from IDR to EURO

ignore racing

no one uses that

[charred depot]

shocks on my car are mostly gone so ill put expensive coilovers in if my insurance lets me

[fringe lake]

Does insurance really check for what suspension you have?

[civic girder]

imagine not using AKI

[stoic ledge]

Well tbh the monthly wage is probably much lower than in for example Europe

[fringe lake]

Yes it is

Minimum is about 150 euros a month

[stoic ledge]

[fringe lake]

I make more than minimum wage with crypto mining 👀

[stoic ledge]

[charred depot]

everything down to stickers needs to be declared if you want to be 100% legit

its understandable not to inform them about stickers but you are definetely screwed if you dont declare performance modifications

[remote ridge]

So I'm guessing that swapping a stereo would be a gray area then

[charred depot]

its best to try and tell them about everything but you dont really hear about people getting screwed for having a different stereo

there was cases of insurance providers looking at forums and potentially invalidating insurance policies for stuff like undeclared engine swaps

having your policy cancelled like that makes it very hard and expensive to get insurance in the future

[fathom socket]

It depends on provider

I believe mine allows modifications up until ~£300 before you need to declare it

I dunno if fitting my missing front speakers counts as a mod...

[remote ridge]

Cool

[fathom socket]

You have to contact your insurance company when you put a stereo in the car???

[charred depot]

for some yeah

some give you a max value that you can do stuff upto like jon said

oh hello there

[raven owl]

hey

[split notch]

By law you have to declare all modifications.

You might be confusing with a rule in your insurance saying that they won't charge for modifications up to £300

[split notch]

It only matters if you crash your car or make a claim, or you have some wacky insurance that demand a dude actually come and check out your car

[charred depot]

some insurance companies you only have to declare certain things, mainly specialist insurers.

[split notch]

I only have to declare performance or aero parts on my insurance

but the law still says you have to declare all modifications

[charred depot]

depends on the company

[split notch]

I have to go real specialist because of my car lmao

[charred depot]

need to work up the strength to phone mine about something i want to do

[split notch]

What have you got, what are you doing and who are you with?

[charred depot]

Mazda 2 with Hastings premier and a bunch of suspension mods

[split notch]

How can you have a bunch of suspension mods

[charred depot]

lower control arms, torsion beam reinforcement, coilovers.

[split notch]

they'd only care about the coilovers

[charred depot]

not taking any risks

[split notch]

Adrian Flux are good for modified, I was with them first

until they tried to fleece me on my renewal

[charred depot]

yeah my last company tried that

i may have to switch and loose out on a bit of noclaims

sisters aswell but she phoned and said x company quoted me y and they matched it

[split notch]

yeah its a really good tactic to phone around and say "well this company offered me this, do better"

They are the customer, not you

you're a client

[charred depot]

I still love that a S2000 is cheaper to insure than a civic and accord

[split notch]

Try insuring an R34 Skyline with a laundry list of mods

at 21

[charred depot]

£5000/y?

[split notch]

Something like that

I got my first year £4,000

second year £3000

thats with a 4 and 5 year NCD

[charred depot]

my parents pay like £10/m on their cars

they dont care when people hit their car, never used insurance for anything

civics 20 years old and has tonnes of high quality bump repairs with the wrong paint used in various locations

[indigo coral]

I wish my car was cheap to insure

Mines 5400 USD a year to insure

[charred depot]

my first year at 17 as a new driver was £930

[split notch]

my job also usually adds a 20% too

[charred depot]

im a uni stoodent which im pretty sure puts off insurance aswell

lots of clowns with modified fiestas in the parking lot heh

but is it declared

[split notch]

lmao

Fiesta STs are pure cancer

totally ruined the UK car scene, now I only go to invite only car events

which, I always get invited to

[charred depot]

some of them have ST badges probably not real

my main friend group consists of 3 mazda 2's, a mazda 3 and a bmw e36

[split notch]

My local group we have, 2 S13s, 4 S14s, 2 R34s, 4 R32s 3 supras and a few scoobies of varying models

oh yikes

yeah we don't do hoon shit in public

I'm 20 minutes away from Driftland and good friends with the dudes who run it

[charred depot]

you are in scotland?

[split notch]

Yeah

[charred depot]

yeah i dont think my mazda 2's going to be achieving much at driftland i am close though

[split notch]

lmao

Where are you about?

[charred depot]

Dunfermline

[split notch]

no shit

ever find yourself up in Dundee?

[charred depot]

rarely

furthest i go really is perth

[split notch]

fair enough

I don't really go to public meets in tesco car parks these days

[charred depot]

not been to a meet myself either

[split notch]

theres a few about

I mean they are all friendly enough communities, and I'm don't mean to be a snob, but

I like cars with character, not finance deals

[charred depot]

the rusting out 10 year old limited edition mazda 2 with the 1.3 engine isnt much to share

wouldnt finance either

[split notch]

I'm about to get my skyline into the shop for a respray and bodywork stuff, and get it back on the road

I took it off the road at the first lockdown last year since I wouldn't really get much use out of it and theres no point wasting money

[fathom socket]

eww fiesta ST

[charred depot]

thinking of getting a cheap e46 to mess around with, my driveway is pretty sketchy though.

id love to work on something that isnt pretty rusty but i guess thats sort of a pipe dream.

[split notch]

I mean

unless you have a budget of less than £1000

thats not a very hard dream to make reality

You just dont have to look at piece of shit cars

[charred depot]

true

[split notch]

either that or learn to weld

[charred depot]

beh its not that bad just the process of getting stuff apart

much more fun when the bolt head still resembles a hexagon

last car i worked on

[sterile holly]

anyone have opinions on the new FA24 from subi?

[split notch]

oo dats real nice

[charred depot]

passed mot like 6 months before that without even a minor corrosion advisory

[stoic ledge]

Idk why Japanese cars rust that fast lol

[charred depot]

its 20 years old and im pretty sure those are the original struts heh

[stoic ledge]

Usually mechanically they're very solid but they get junked/scrapped due to rust

Ah that's the Civic

Not the 2

[charred depot]

yeah my struts arent perfect but they still have some black paint remaining

[stoic ledge]

[charred depot]

its the floorpan of my car and rear arches that are rusty

and the subframe

[stoic ledge]

Well my point still stands, my neighbors had a Mazda 6 which was mechanically fine, but the rust was just horrendous. Not even that many miles on it

[charred depot]

the ~2010 mazdas and what not suck for rust

3's that i liked are mostly gone and what remains oozes with rust

[stoic ledge]

Yeah but it's weird, if you look at literally any other car from the same area there's no rust at all

Ok maybe surface rust on the undercarriage but nothing deep or structural

[charred depot]

sills on the NB mx5's are basically water tanks if you arent careful

[stoic ledge]

Yeah

[charred depot]

my car has plastic side skirts so if it gets sill rust no one will know therefore its not a issue :^)

[stoic ledge]

OOF

[charred depot]

the rust on my car is pretty savable without welding if i put the effort in

ive got some paint for the civics subframe and just need to fix the abs then it might be able to skimp through another MOT

[stoic ledge]

Well let me tell you this.... We owned a 2003 Peugeot 307 from 2007 to 2017. The paint on the trunk lid on those isn't great, so it started to let go a bit. Underneath, it was showing a bit of (surface) rust. So my dad bought a stickey chrome strip at the local car store, cut it to size and put it on there. The other week, I spotted the car for same again, and the chrome strip was still on there, doing it's thing

[charred depot]

heh

our civics got rust visible from the outside in a few places mostly from not having crashes repaired

[stoic ledge]

The 307 didn't have any damages as far as we know

[split notch]

Because Japan don't use salt on their roads

so they don't treat the underbodies of their cars for salt-induced rust

[charred depot]

the models that come here get a bit more protection

[split notch]

which is why you really really should have your car undersealed properly on import, and have it redone every few years

[charred depot]

but if you import it yeah

[stoic ledge]

Well they know where the car is going, depending on the region they should put something on it

[charred depot]

imported mx5's are basically open to elements

[stoic ledge]

Or even the dealer should coat it

[split notch]

Not if it's a private export...?

• I've never known a UK import company to not offer a undersealing service on import.

[stoic ledge]

Well it also happens to cars which were meant to go to "here" (Europe)

[split notch]

I mean

McLarens also rust very easy

[stoic ledge]

[split notch]

But also most people are dumb and don't clean their cars properly

[stoic ledge]

That I do not know

[split notch]

they think that washing the paint is cleaning their car

[stoic ledge]

I can neither confirm nor deny

True

[split notch]

my cars been undersealed really well but I still jetwash the underchassis every other day in winter months

[stoic ledge]

I washed mine this week even though it'll be raining/snowing, just to getval the debris/salt off it

But I've never washed the underside

[split notch]

for UKDM cars it's not a big deal

or EUDM

whatever

[stoic ledge]

[split notch]

but it's still good practise to get into, it's not even 30 seconds more

[stoic ledge]

But getting the power washer out is a big deal lol

I usually just wash it by hand

Getting hose, run it out, put down some power, connect it all, afterwards drain everything... Soo much work 😛

[split notch]

I just go to the local garage

£3 for 5 minutes spray

easy done

also you don't need to use a power washer, just put your thumb over the end of the hose

[stoic ledge]

Well getting the power washer out isn't that much work, running the hose is the shittiest part for me

[dense shard]

I'd say a pressure washer would be nice for underbody stuff.

[storm onyx]

owner recently wrapped his 918

what it should look like

[split notch]

Yikes, wrapping

Way to waste money

[prime valve]

if he has that car he probably has enough to wrap it

[civic spoke]

Not really?

It can be a good way to get a new color.

And to protect your paint.

[prime valve]

so thats the last he want to worry about

[civic spoke]

Yeh

The 918 is not a cheap car. So the owner sure has the money part down.

[prime valve]

how much is a wrap

like 2k ?

[civic spoke]

I guess it depends on the wrap you get. And how careful they need to be with it.

And how readily available the cuts are.

[prime valve]

from 1k to 5k average

[flint sable]

I’ve seen a 918 wrapped in red

[dense shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdsPvbSpB2Y

[indigo coral]

problem with wraps is that it can screw up your clearcoat

[dense shard]

If done improperly, sure.

[potent ivy]

Oh god

My car is misfiring

Help please

[prime valve]

@potent ivy good one luckily this is a tech community we can help

[ember dove]

snow more, I wanna try out my tires >:C

[acoustic ruin]

Hmm, valve timings off?

[ember dove]

I'd look at maintenance first like plugs or filters

[acoustic ruin]

oh yea plugs exsist, forgot about those, should DEFINITELY look into plug replacement

[civic girder]

spark plugs, spark plug wires, ignition coils, distributor components/timing, and fuel injectors can all cause misfires

[ember dove]

fuel filter, just some shitty gas

[civic girder]

shitty gas would cause ping more likely

old fuel filter isn't likely to cause a miss either I wouldn't think. You'd just have poor fuel flow so it would run rough and struggle to accelerate

[ember dove]

which could be interpreted as a miss

[civic girder]

true

[ember dove]

id like to replace my fuel filter

but its in tank

so

i will not

[civic girder]

damn, that sucks

though I do know the pain of fuel filter replacement

it was a fucking nightmare on the Corolla

I have a new hatred for steel flared lines

no matter what I tried, I could not get that bastard to stop leaking

ended up paying a shop $100 diagnostic fee to get the leak fixed

but on my RX-7, it takes literally 2 seconds to change the fuel filter

and I have two fuel filters on it

I kinda want to replace the Previa fuel filter, but I have a feeling it uses flared lines

and flared lines are my mortal enemy

the Corolla did need it tho

the fuel that came out of the old filter was legit black

[ember dove]

i spent like 4 hours trying to get the filter off the lines on my mr2

i had to go buy new wrenches and literally jump on the thing to get the banjo bolts to loosen

[civic girder]

yea, I had a similar problem with the banjo on the Corolla's old filter

but when I put the banjo back on, it didn't leak

[ember dove]

probably the same filter xD

[civic girder]

so much less painful

possibility

the Corolla's had a Banjo on top and flared line (like a brake or clutch line) on the bottom

[civic girder]

that looks similar, but its not the same

[indigo coral]

I bet its a royal pain in the ass on my RX too

[solemn inlet]

Time to change the head gasket

Oh wait, fuck

[fringe lake]

UM

I don't know much about cars but that seems really off

[solemn inlet]

Just slap it on

She'll be right

[split notch]

Skyline fuel filters are right in its guts

You need to do a combination of a boot and back seat diving job to get to its lid

[stoic ledge]

[split notch]

Which reminds me thats another bullshit thing I need to do

Fuel filter and fuel pump

Wahlbro 450 timeee

[fathom socket]

sweet ride homie

[split notch]

I want these to work

But I need to remake the loom

And thats real effort

[fathom socket]

goodluck bro

it's all worth the effort

if it's hard on your own and you don't got the time then i recommend taking it to a shop or someone whose experienced with loomin

[split notch]

Problem is that not a lot of people in the UK can work on Skylines or S bodies, or whatever

Nearest dude I trust is 200 miles away

Even the Nissan dealship told me to 0121 Do One

[fringe lake]

I mean, 200 miles is a nice road trip soooooo

Road trip + modification

[civic girder]

200 miles isn't that bad

[fringe lake]

For americans at least

For europeans? Hah

[civic spoke]

I've done over 750 miles in a day before.

[fringe lake]

Wow

Max I've ever done is about 500km through forests and on ships

Granted I didn't drive, but goodness gracious being the GPS is tiring

[civic spoke]

It was like 1,200 km's that I did.

[fringe lake]

Very nice

I assume on mainly highways tho

[civic spoke]

Yeah.

[fringe lake]

Going avg 70-80 mph

[civic spoke]

Nah. Not really.

Not that fast.

I was gone a whole day, picking up a puppy for my sister.

I do something like 500 km's a week going to/from work.

When I would drive a whole lot more with the truck at work. Then I would do over like 5,000 km's a month.

[fringe lake]

For context, going 60mph is already quite fast for a roadtrip here lol

[civic spoke]

5,000 km's a month really isn't that much when you drive almost all day.

[fringe lake]

I guess so

[split notch]

yes but for me to drive my car 200 miles, and then have someone to take me back, thats 400 miles and a days trip, and I work full time

Plus it's my daily

[compact thorn]

wait

you got on

[split notch]

got what?

@compact thorn

[compact thorn]

an R34

[fringe lake]

r34's aren't that hard to get, its a matter of patience and money

[compact thorn]

well true

[split notch]

It's only Americans that can't get them

[compact thorn]

well as an american and someone who doesnt have patience and even less money it does suck

[split notch]

plus people write off the 4 doors as being lame, so they are turbo cheap, despite being the same as the 2 door GTT

[compact thorn]

ah

[split notch]

but they still look the tits

I'm just buying new bodykit for them right now, skirts, front bumper, front wings

My new spoiler is on it's way from Germany

[fringe lake]

4 door skylines are sick, both speed and comfort

[split notch]

absolutely

and from the A pillar forward, exactly the same as the GTR and GTT in terms of shit fitting 👀

had her sat at 350 to the tarmac before I took her off the road at the start of lockdown last year

going to get it resprayed and back on the road hopefully by summer

[compact thorn]

damn

[compact thorn]

they do tho

[static canopy]

no

[sterile holly]

snow tires and rims. now that's smart

[ember dove]

the tires are only like 9 years old

[civic spoke]

I too like living on the edge.

[ember dove]

they're winterforces they're invincible apparently

[charred depot]

wish we were able to justify snow tyres

probably rot out before they even get 5% of wear

[split notch]

I dont even have winter tyres lmao

I cant be fucked having a second set of alloys, and I might as well drift with my sports tyres in winter

[charred depot]

i live on a street that is a steep hill with driveways that are a steep decline

my neighbour hit their garage door with a basically brand new ford focus

[split notch]

oof

[charred depot]

they lease cars or whatever though dont actually own them

[sterile holly]

[split notch]

tbh who owns their cars outright these days

[charred depot]

my family i guess heh

we all rock £2.3k max shitboxes

2 of the cars i think youd struggle to get £700 for

one of our cars hasnt had a proper alignment for atleast 13 years

[drowsy surge]

clean civic is best civic, rice bad

[split notch]

What does rice mean to you?

[ember dove]

clean civic is daily driver

rice civic is party mobile

[charred depot]

something about that civic design that makes me think the entire car body is made of plastic

[jovial brook]

I was gonna buy a civic

but BC insurance on civics sucks

[charred depot]

i could of had our spare old civic as my first car but insurance was insane on it for some reason too

[split notch]

civics bad lookin tho

except the FK8 with the HDMI exhaust pipe

[dense shard]

Not a huge fan of new Civics... at least till I saw what Honda revealed for the next generation.

https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/5/2020/11/2022-Honda-Civic-Prototype-29.jpg?fit=around|875:492

Rear end is just a Jetta

[stoic ledge]

What's the hatchback like 👀

[dense shard]

https://s.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dims3/GLOB/legacy_thumbnail/1049x590/quality/80/https://s.aolcdn.com/os/ab/_cms/2021/01/06080348/Honda-Civic-Hatch-12.jpg

[patent sage]

Eyyy cars

[stoic ledge]

Hmmmm don't think it'll appeal to the European market

But I don't think that's their goal nowadays

[dense shard]

Civic will get sold likely only as a hatchback in Europe.

Mind you they shutdown the UK factory.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah probably, but even the sales of that are heavily declining... In 2007 they sold 120k Civic's in Europe, in 2020 just 17k

It's not their core market, they'll probably focus on anything but Europe

Ofcourse 2020 sales were down for every brand

But that's still very low

[dense shard]

ah well.

I'm not particularly impressed with the new Civic styling. It's a nicer Jetta.

[stoic ledge]

It's not that hard to achieve that lol 😛

[dense shard]

Jetta looks aight.

[charred depot]

wonder how well the 99-05 one sold in the UK compared to newer models

after that they gave them an arguably excessive sporty look

[flint sable]

headlights remind me of the charger

[dense shard]

But Corolla, Sentra, and now the Korean companies have more compelling products.

Corolla is stylish now, Sentra is a valid value proposition, and the Koreans have just... nice products.

Stylish and a good value.

[simple steppe]

That's FUCKED UP

In trucking training

Here is a sneak peek

[civic spoke]

I want a nice Scania S or Volvo FH.

[fathom socket]

that's a lot of space

[fathom socket]

I drive man tgl sadly

and oh god I'm not looking forward switching to one that gearbox jams very often

[simple steppe]

So in my school we learn on freightliner

They take the bed out

And it seat 5 people

[civic spoke]

Would love something like these two.

R/S 770

[simple steppe]

Cabover vs conventional?

[civic spoke]

They are both cabovers.

R line is a more rugged truck. Where as the S line is more for longer hauling on mostly pavements.

[charred depot]

wouldnt even fit the truck into some places regardless of trailers if it wasnt a cabover heh

[civic spoke]

Cabovers is pretty much required in many parts of Europe.

[stoic ledge]

Also handy as basically everything is length restricted, so maximize it a cabover is way more efficient

Using a nose truck isn't really a problem, you just need to have a 6ft shorter trailer

[civic spoke]

Aye.

Max length here is generally 24 meters.

But a lot being allowed 25.25 meters.

And 32 meters having become a thing for certain routes as well.

24 meters is allowed to weigh 60 tonnes.

[charred depot]

video of a truck here advertising its extra 2 meters trailer capacity and how it was good for the environment

turns a corner hooks a van and drags it along

[stoic ledge]

Truck + trailer here is max 16.5m iirc

[simple steppe]

Here they all going to 53ft trailer now

Fedex still have some shorter than 53

Sliding tandem and sliding fifth wheel

[stoic ledge]

Hmmm a 53ft trailer (16.15m) isn't really feasible with a max 16.5m combination length here

[civic spoke]

https://youtu.be/Z61gDjlMcBk

[stoic ledge]

Y E E T

[simple steppe]

Our instructor tell us when you turn

[civic spoke]

There is a max length of 12 meters inside of Stockholm.

[simple steppe]

Watch that back tandem like a hawk!

[charred depot]

much respect for truck drivers here in Scotland, im like wow this is narrow: artic truck appears going the other direction.

[simple steppe]

Here is under the hood

[charred depot]

where the rust at

i love the sound of truck horns here

[simple steppe]

Air horn

[civic spoke]

This is fairly impressive. https://youtu.be/xkKFpoELhj4

[charred depot]

doot doot

no ones going to miss those indicators on that trailer

[civic spoke]

You would think that...

Also. The guy had to reverse and turn around because of an underpass I think it was.

He was too tall.

[charred depot]

i sometimes fail to see the indicators on the front of modern cars at night

[civic spoke]

Common for those trucks to be 4.45 meters tall.

[charred depot]

super powerful headlights with a little led indicator tucked in next to them

[simple steppe]

And stupid people got to do stupid shit

Change lane at last second to get on that off ramp

Not just cars semi do that too

[charred depot]

in lane 1 of 3 for 5th exit on the roundabout 🧠

i dont really see trucks doing anything bad myself other than extreme tailgating

thought i was following a truck doing 40 but when i passed it i got to see the astra that was 1 meter infront of it

[split notch]

plenty of stupid people on the road

get their licenses out of cereal boxes and vending machines

[dense shard]

it be like that

Would be easier if mass transit in the US was something valid.

[fathom socket]

when your mom gets a cooler car than you

she just got the Toyota RAV4 black edition

[civic spoke]

More than just that. In many parts of USA it is required to have a car to get anywhere due to how houses were all built.

[dense shard]

That's America's charm... and downfall.

[fathom socket]

this isn't even snow

it's fricking solid

again

[sterile holly]

who leaves their wipers in the upright position?

i feel bad for the car

in the winter i like to keep anti ice spray to use in these conditions

mostly use it for windows or locks that ice up

[fathom socket]

If it is raining when you are driving your wipers are moving, when you turn the car off, they stay up, it where they were

[sterile holly]

well yeah that's why you turn your wipers off before you shut your engine off

just like you should also shut your HVAC off before turning the engine off as well

[fathom socket]

Why though

[sterile holly]

it's more stress on the alternator and battery during cold starts

[fathom socket]

Also it turns out it is fun to tow 23 feet of caravan and have 32 feet of car and caravan

[fathom socket]

Who cares about cold starts lol

its never cold here

[sterile holly]

i mean they're all motors

it's kind of like unplugging your pc instead of shutting it down properly

[simple steppe]

I would never forget my instructor said "watch those tandem like a hawk"

when driving a truck

scare tacit he used that he was an EMT

and respond to a case a semi tandem run over a kid in a turn

semi trucks don't have air bags

because air bags won't save you

[fathom socket]

at least my car has electrically heated windshield

[simple steppe]

We have heated mirrors

[charred depot]

i gotta wait 5 years for my car to start producing some heat

[fathom socket]

Sadly I don't have heated mirrors

And gosh I have to remember take the battery home

[split notch]

I'm gonna throw my battery in the ocean tomorrow

its decided tonight was the night it wants to stop being a goodboi 12v battery and now a piece of shit 15kg 9V battery

[stoic ledge]

I hate it when cars do that, mine just finishes it's cycle when I turn the car off

[charred depot]

im a masochist who manually triggers each wipe of my wipers half the time

[night current]

Anyone know much about the 90-00 Lexus LS400? I've been looking into getting one and wanted to see people's opinions of it on whether it's a good/reliable car or not. I can find a few decent ones for around 3-4k.

[split notch]

yeah I manually trigger my wipers a lot

[charred depot]

guess you cant say speed with more e's than needed

my cars 3 options are every year, constant fast, and constant very fast

[split notch]

yeah same lmao

but mines is a funky jap car so my indicators are on the right 😎

[ember dove]

Manual wiper gang

[fathom socket]

for fuck sake

my LPG conversion does not work

[fathom socket]

2 Nissan Patrols

[stiff minnow]

hey, im new here. I was wondering, whats the best car you can get after graduation (has to be under 10k, assuming i have the money)

[dense shard]

A used Corolla or Civic.

https://twitter.com/Tweetermeyer/status/1358524419828682752

E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer)

Men will literally convince themselves that Teslas are going to be self-driving instead of going to therapy.

Twitter · Feb 7, 2021, 9:13 PM

[sterile holly]

best is relative

it deends on what you will be using it for

your first car should be cheap. i mean cheap. you will make a lot of mistakes owning your first car so don't get anything you will attach yourself to

my first car was a cavalier. 1st gen TCS and shitty ABS

it was pretty reliable. the most reliable vehicle i've owned was a 2008 cobalt. 12 years on stock battery. never once let me down

having a battery inside the vehicle will extend its life

GM does a pretty good job with locating their batteries inside the vehicles

[stoic ledge]

Idk why everyone keeps saying that lol

People told me the same stuff when I bought a fairly new car as my first car

Almost 5 years later, I haven't crashed it yet

Am I an exceptional good driver, did I just get lucky, or is it something else?

[charred depot]

depends where you drive

and how you want to drive

[solemn inlet]

@fathom socket up the pootrols

TD42 or RB bro

[fathom socket]

there's probably some trend that more recent drivers crash less

but again its really region dependent

driving on motorways near liverpool is like 3x scarier than edinburgh at least in my very limited sample size

will cars ever fly?

[split notch]

Edinburgh city bypass has several accidents daily

[charred depot]

not been further south than Edinburgh yet

[night current]

Make sure to do research on car manufactures too. I didn't realize that a 2001 Lexus ES300 was pretty much the exact same as a camry for cheaper, and it was nicer too.

Honda's and Toyota's kind of seem like they are overpriced these days based on where you get them.

[charred depot]

closest ive come to an accident happened in Edinburgh i guess

hm yes turn right lane to go straight suddenly without indicating left

[ember dove]

i got into an accident and made money on my car lol

[charred depot]

doubt id be so lucky

[fathom socket]

part of me thinks you can probably put alot of those down to the density of traffic in terms of cars/lane/km

the main motorways in/out and about liverpool are friggin huge in places and at least 3/4 lanes

but the times i've driven around both, there were a bit more dangerous driving around liverpool

[fathom socket]

?

[solemn inlet]

What engine is in the patrols mate

[inland flame]

I believe when it fly people no longer call it car

[strong ginkgo]

ouch

[fathom socket]

F

[ancient tinsel]

l

[strong ginkgo]

-_-

[strong ginkgo]

350Z

[elfin sequoia]

Build your own car

Prebuilt cars bad

[little lion]

Bruh

[elfin sequoia]

Its the truth

You pay for someone else to build it

Cars are just adult legos

[blissful ibex]

xDDDDDDDD

[nocturne plume]

facts

350z's are some of the best cars

[nocturne plume]

if you want an automatic, go for a ford crown victoria

[nova knot]

lol

[nocturne plume]

if you want manual go for a 350z

[strong ginkgo]

Yeah, easily moddable aswell and make a ton of power on stock engine with some basic mods

[nocturne plume]

yeah

or a miata

theyre cheap

light

easily moddable

[strong ginkgo]

miatas are slow though

and overdone

[nocturne plume]

tru

[strong ginkgo]

if you want to make any decent power you need to swap it

at which point ur better off getting the car that you swapped it with

[nocturne plume]

facts

[nova knot]

"best" is subjective, if you want to drive to work every day then you're gonna have a bad time with a fast and furious style car

[strong ginkgo]

You can get a 350 for 5K and then get some mods for it

boom, easy power

You can make like 320 wheel

[nocturne plume]

yeah

kinda like what donut media did

[strong ginkgo]

And if you get a bigger turbo you can easily go to 400 on stock internals

[strong ginkgo]

yeah

At around 550 wheel i would start swapping internals

but stocks can go like 470-490 with no issues

[nocturne plume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kef1wXcQYw&list=PLFl907chpCa4URRJFT8a1-RXvCTPmXVhD

if you need it

they made 16 episodes

i think they also made a video with linus

[warm sparrow]

wtf 6k ??

how many Km / miles does it have ?

[strong ginkgo]

idk

[warm sparrow]

here a 350z in good condition is like 15k which is like 18k usd or something like that

[strong ginkgo]

60K miles

[warm sparrow]

wtf

so cheap

😭😭😭

it would cost 16.5k here

fuck this

[strong ginkgo]

xdd

[stoic ledge]

Yeah ~15k EUR

[strong ginkgo]

rly?

[nocturne plume]

yeah

[stoic ledge]

A 2020 370Z was a cool 110k EUR

[strong ginkgo]

oh yeah the driving one the chal;lenge with the hottest chip

[nocturne plume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_arx0SUZX4&list=PLFl907chpCa78z9t0haYodZs2FVDgsrtF

i think thats the one

[warm sparrow]

and it's not homologated

for europe

[stoic ledge]

The 370Z was

[warm sparrow]

ah yes 370 sorry

I saw "2020" 370

forgot it was still sold new

[stoic ledge]

Yeah the latest 370Z modelyear you could get (in Europe atleast)

Yeah it's ancient

[warm sparrow]

so new it's 110k ??

[stoic ledge]

In 🇳🇱 it was

[strong ginkgo]

rather would buy a used GTR at that price lmao

cant you get like a 2009 gtr for like 30K in britain?

[stoic ledge]

Jokes on you: GT-R is even more expensive

UK cars are cheap due to RHD

[strong ginkgo]

yeah fair

but a 2012 gtr here used is 60K

[warm sparrow]

the 370z seems to be still available here 🤔

starting at 33.500€

[stoic ledge]

A new base GT-R starts from €178k here in 🇳🇱

[stoic ledge]

That's not too bad tbh

[stoic ledge]

I think I can also get a 2012 GT-R for that price here

[strong ginkgo]

rather buy that than a 370z xd

[nocturne plume]

i prefer the 350z

but mazda > nissan

and no one can change that

[stoic ledge]

GT-R Nismo: €285k