cars

[silent prairie]

yes sir

[lone fern]

got vids? things sweet!

[silent prairie]

https://share.snapchat.com/m/kViWtfGWFTj4?share_id=A8DwhZwxQK2BpcaH-nCgEQ&locale=en_US

[modest pike]

hows ur mt82 holding up

[silent prairie]

112k miles on all stock components she’s doing good

[charred depot]

getting there

valence panel at the bottom is going to be a pain

[floral barn]

we need more guess the car by sound vids

i mean its pretty close to one

🧱

[wraith rivet]

Valence electron?

[charred depot]

noh, valence panel

[serene iron]

New shoes

[rancid sky]

Me this year, longest jump yet, 60 ft

[tepid hedge]

Throw a lightbar on that bad boy and let it take you places for the next 30+ years of your life. Toyotas never die hahaha

[dull cedar]

Interesting choice of vehicle for such a thing

[rancid sky]

It's actually an amazing platform for 2WD rally in the US. Could never run it in Europe but thankfully our rules allow such builds

[dull cedar]

What size engine does it have?

[silent prairie]

fucking rad bro

[snow otter]

[prisma frost]

🥶

[blissful magnet]

I was thinking of almost making the Marty McFly one

[pure pond]

and thats my first car accident of the year already, someone drove in the back of my car because they didnt keep distance with snow and it was a icy road.... but my tow hook saved it his bumper was f'ed mine was fine

[snow otter]

Gotta make sure to properly tighten the oil filter

[pure pond]

you did put some loctite on it and didnt put oil on the O ring?

cant have it ratle loose

[snow otter]

i lubed up the O ring with some RTV

[charred depot]

I need to weld some tow hooks onto my 305 for track days and I dont really trust the structure of the vehicle, fully expecting my boot floor to get yanked out

going to try and reinforce it as much as possible

ofcourse hopefully they will never actually have to be used

[native ermine]

thanks i hate this

[lone fern]

did you make sure to use red loctite on the threads?

[snow otter]

yeah and i used PR1776-M fuel tank sealant on the O-ring for lubrication

[lone fern]

good good wouldn’t want it to come off going down the road

[halcyon grotto]

luv an i3

was the uhhh lightbar needed?

[dull cedar]

If they're driving in the dark while it's snowing on an empty road, yeah probably

[modest pike]

I put a big ass 10 in a Miata

Will have another photo of the sub

[stoic ledge]

seatbelt has left the chat

Same display, different styling

Damn you mileage is 80121km , so close to the magic number

[lone fern]

damnn i missed it 💔

i was trying to hit 50k miles on NYE but it didn’t work out

[summer epoch]

Te,ting from a aor0lai e

[lone fern]

update: i was so close

also my phone be tweaking and i can’t edit the video to make it shorter

i’ve had this car for probably 5 months and put 27k miles on it in 2025, and I estimate i drove somewhere north of 65k miles last year on all my cars combined

i plan on driving the absolute wheels off this regal though as long as nobody else plows into me

[wraith rivet]

I missed it by 30 miles :(

[lone fern]

nooooo 😭😭😭

[stoic ledge]

I also missed that one in my car

[wispy cloak]

Light bar when snowing will blind you

[dull cedar]

Lemme rephrase, on a snow covered road

[lone fern]

what motor do you have in yours? i’m nowhere close to your avg fuel consimption 😬

[stoic ledge]

1.4 Turbo

But the average consumption it reads is inaccurate, usually if I do the maths at the fuel station it's +10/15%

But that's a picture from some summer time, many highway driving (which is 100km/h-62mph in NL, hence the CC at 110km/h/68mph)

Since I've owned the car I've averaged 1:16.9 / 5.9L/100km / 39.7 MPG US / 47.7 MPG UK

[prisma frost]

Around the same for the 1.0tsi in my golf

[lone fern]

hell yeah

right now with my winter tires and doing 80-90mph on the highway to work i’m averaging 23.7 mpg 🫠 but with my reg tires and the same speeds i get like 29ish

[stoic ledge]

Doing 80-90mph mine would also consume quite a lot more

Doing 80 I get like 7L/100km (= 33 MPG US), maybe slightly better 6.7L/100km = 35 MPG US

But with only 110km/h highway driving 5.5L/100km = 43 MPG US isn't uncommon

[bleak pewter]

my first bike at 16 with my dad's next to it

ik its not technically a car but im proud of it and wanted to share

[harsh quarry]

with my Golf 1.8TSI I've seen as low as 6.8L/100km, but as high as 10+L/100km when I'm in traffic doing city driving

[native ermine]

there are people who can't figure out that there driving with only DRL's on with no tail lights.... you really expect them to be smart enough to know this shit?

[lone fern]

the amount of people that i flash my high beams at while they drive their “ghost” car down the highway at 4 in the morning is nuts

almost nobody ever gets the memo and turns them on they just look confused when i pass

sometimes i’ll run into the same person the next day still with no lights on like how tf do you have a license

[civic spoke]

Fun fact.
They are changing the regulations about that here in Sweden (Or EU as a whole?).
Unless it's a bright day, then rear lights are required to be on for any future vehicles.

Meaning that they will be forced to turn on even when it's cloudy.

What the switch looks like in my BMW i3S. And then I get the green light for when the lights are on.

[lone fern]

shit a lot of people don’t even know where the switch/dial to turn their lights on manually even is anymore 😭

[native ermine]

turn signals are supposed to be amber

[native ermine]

huh i've seen truckers and sometimes cars on the highways here when coming up to traffic flash there hazards to warn others

[harsh quarry]

here in Canada we've required front DRLs for many years, so rear DRLs makes perfect sense to me

the flashing brake lights is being tried in North America as well, but only on certain models for now

[harsh quarry]

my Golf has combined brake and turn signal for the North American model, but they made the same tail light design work for the EU with proper (amber) turn signals

[harsh quarry]

yeah it's pretty standard for many german cars to have the headlight switch like this.

Side note, the wiper stalk on German cars goes the opposite direction as Japanese cars, which mildly annoys me

[gentle thicket]

Came to the realization that we need to mandate a light similar to the seatbelt light. If the light sensor commands headlights on but the headlights are not actually on then there should be a blinking light on the panel that says 'headlights off'. Realized this when I saw the indicator saying the headlights were on when I was driving in overcast conditions. We don't need to know they're on unless the alternator isn't charging, but we do need to know they are off when they should be on.

[gentle thicket]

I actually had to instruct a lady how to turn her headlights on a couple weeks ago because she thought they were on due to the DRLs. You know - they could also just mandate DRLs must shut off if the 'auto' headlight commands on. Then people can't make the mistake.

[native ermine]

no it doesn't need to be that complicated... just don't illuminate the gauge cluster when the DRLs are the only lights on... OR just have that as well as the tail lights always being on as well

everyone driving with just there DRLs at night think its there low beams because they're just bright enough to see while also having the gauges lit as well.

not realizing that there tail lights aren't on which is more of an issue then not having your low beams on imo

[native ermine]

OR just get rid of DRLs entirely and just have them act as your low beams and tail lights... because that's what it would be

like i don't get why they are separated in the first place

[gentle thicket]

It's not complicated as it doesn't even need to be computerized, simple relays would do the trick.
I could get behind the simply having the front ambers on rather than clear light as that would make the car visible without the possibility of being confused for headlights - but IMO brake lights are sacred and should not be illuminated in the day as running lights.

[native ermine]

this all goes without saying... you shouldn't be driving if you don't at least understand the basics of how cars function

[native ermine]

not brake lights but tail lights

you can tell a difference

and if you can't... then you shouldn't be driving

[gentle thicket]

I don't really blame them for not realizing since there is no indicator when there is a wrong such as seatbelt. The DRLs are simply too bright and headlights are supposed to be automatic, who would think that someone else turned them off.

[gentle thicket]

tail lights ARE brake lights. There is functionally little difference between tail lights in the day and brake lights but the 3rd light has failed. That is why they should not be on in the day period.

[native ermine]

simply too bright and also the gauge cluster thing as well

[native ermine]

no because the bulbs are dual filament... which means they get noticeably brighter when the brakes are applied

otherwise they just glow

[gentle thicket]

A distinction that can be made in the dark but not in broad daylight.

[native ermine]

idk maybe you need to get your eyes checked because its very obvious to me

even without a 3 brake light

you could also have them pulse like what the EU is requiring now

the Japanese also have fog brake lights that pulse when they come on

[gentle thicket]

rear fog light makes sense. Then you don't need daytime running brake lights as the likelihood that two brake lamps have failed is so small.

[native ermine]

like DRLs are a thing here in Canada but in the states they aren't... and yet you can still find people driving with there lights on

i still think just having a more simple are all your lights on yes no works the best

then you got fogs and high beams as extras you have to manually turn on and off

fuck it throw amber marker lights being on as well in there

they blinky then you turning if not they just look nice

turning whichever direction I'll add

[gentle thicket]

classic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38FTVLpUNnQ

[stoic ledge]

DRL's are more to be seen than to give light for you

And yes they're quite bright as it's also nice to see them with low standing sun

DRL in the rear not being on is basically a "power saving" thing, back from when most rear lights were full halogen and constantly using electricity for it actually made the car consume more fuel

Iirc in Scandinavia it's a thing to have rear DRL's now tho

In my car the most off setting I can turn the lights is "Automatic", there's no actual way to turn them completely off

[gentle thicket]

off has it's purposes. For example, I drop my brother in law off at the fireworks tent to browse but I just want to wait in the car, I turn the switch to the headlights off position so I'm not blinding the people in the tent.
A complicated but incredibly great option would be to have a push button like the push to start that shuts off the lights while parked but if you start moving then it turns them back on.

[gentle thicket]

Hard to tell on vs off is very different than bright vs not. There is no reason for lighting in broad daylight.

Yeah but in 2001 the maximum output was reasonable, now it's way too bright.

[forest lintel]

It's really not, not even on old cars with poor lightbulbs and 6V electrics

[gentle thicket]

On durring the day is going to cause preventable accidents for no benefit. People will see a car with a failed third brake light and not be able to tell if it is stopped/stopping versus just on. There is no consistent brightness for brake lights but there is one consistent - they are not generally on during the day and at night running lights are dim enough to tell the difference between them and brake lights. That distinction is not simple to make in broad daylight as the lights cannot light up their surroundings as well.

They are the same freaking light!

[forest lintel]

It was mandatory to always have lights on all the time here until the past 10-15 years something when drls became legal, lights on was not a problem, the drls with dark rears are however causing lots of problems

[gentle thicket]

The only way around that is to make all taillights must be no higher than 2 foot off the ground and all brake lights must be a minimum of 6 foot. Then they are not both red lights on the rear of the car at the sides.

Do tell me. if they are not the same light then since both left ones are not in the circle and the same color - then where are they separate? At 100 feet a distinction of 6 inches is no distinction at all when when a judgement must be made in 2 seconds or less.

[forest lintel]

That's one shitty rear light design

[gentle thicket]

The one circled in green can fail. That is why it should not be relied upon to convey brake vs tail in broad daylight when cars are readily visible already.

[gentle thicket]

Show me one that has a clear distinction between taillight and brake light at a safe highway following distance then.

Because that is at best 1 to 2 percent of the vehicles on the road.

So what you're saying is all cars should be tractor trailers with three separate distinct housings per side all so you can have pointless taillights in broad daylight? Basically this but obviously with amber turn signals since everyone is so anti red turn signals. Personally, I like the amber most of the time but I'm not in anyway confused by red or combination turn signals.

[forest lintel]

All cars on the roads here

More or less

[lone fern]

i wish we got cool amber turn signals here in the u.s

[gentle thicket]

So the difference is instead of slightly brighter - it gets slightly larger.

[forest lintel]

It's not slightly brighter, it goes from dim to bright

[gentle thicket]

Depends on the car. Some do have amber rears. My Sol does - at least with the stock tails. It's one of the reasons I like the stock so much more over the aftermarket ones that are chrome housing with amber bulb.

[gentle thicket]

When you have the sun directly overhead - it's still only slightly brighter.

And most importantly relies on you seeing the transition happen.

[forest lintel]

It's significant enough to always be noticeable

But maybe you have shitty brake lights in NA, I don't know

[gentle thicket]

I mean I suppose it's possible that one could consider that - but it is not because of difference in brightness. There is no viable difference in brightness that makes daylight tails safer than not. You only have 2 seconds to determine did that car in front of me hit their brakes after you glanced down at the instrument cluster, over to the mirrors, changed a station or comfort setting and off versus on is far more safe than crash oh no their third brake light had failed and I made the wrong choice.
Or maybe you played it safe and slammed on the brakes but the person behind you glanced at maps in that moment and now you're rear ended.
These are preventable accidents by not doing something that doesn't increase safety.

If a person cannot see a vehicle in broad daylight at several hundred feet, why were they even able to get a license?

[stoic ledge]

Something like that exists in modern cars

I know on new Audi's you can turn them off while stationary, but when you move again it turns them back to auto

But that you can't use the "physical" light switch, you need some touch interaction thingy

[gentle thicket]

You keep focusing on that when it is NOT the problem. The problem is that dim and bright is the same when the third brake light has failed.

So are a capital and lower case o. Yet you will not be able to tell me if I print out just one of them and mail it to you with no other reference. Seeing the transition or seeing the third brake light provides that reference. There is no difference at a glance between dim and bright in the bright sun that is significant enough to make it worth the added risk. Period. I'm done with the argument.

[civic spoke]

I hate turn signals that use the same bulb as the brakes.

[charred depot]

As someone with astigmatism I cant comprehend why we allow the state of headlights on new vehicles

Now even just bodge jobs that are the problem, brand new supposedly conforming cars.

Sane headlights

Apparently they are doing some study on this in the UK but no doubt it will turn into nothing with people driving SUVs and full size vans saying they dont have any issues.

[lone fern]

for real, if it’s dark and rainy i literally can’t see shit when i’m driving my car lmao

[charred depot]

stuff oncoming I can forgive kind of as you know it moves on, but if I get a modern mini or similar behind me my side mirrors are going to be collapsed suns for the next 20 miles

[flint sable]

i remember as a kid thinking LED drls were the coolest thing ever

now we do have some cars with them

[civic spoke]

Angel eyes.

[flint sable]

we have an F10

one of the headlights is broken

ecksdee

[civic spoke]

F

[harsh quarry]

according to Transport Canada:

[harsh quarry]

off is also useful when you're working on the car and don't want to drain the battery

my car the lights stay on auto 99% of the time, except for when it's in the shop

[harsh quarry]

at more extreme latitudes, the angle of the sun in the sky can be really blinding, especially when it reflects off of the snow. DRLs can be the difference between noticing an oncoming car or not

[gentle sentinel]

First time venturing into this channel as I had a story I thought I'd like to share.I had quite a wonderful time this morning, took our Morris minor 1000 for a drive. 10 minutes in after making a brief stop to fill her up she made a brilliant thumping sound and came to a spectacular stop as I was turning out of the petrol station. Ended up getting towed home. 10/10 would recommend. British engineering at its finest.

[native ermine]

i mean halos and angel eyes look really cool

[forest lintel]

I wish e46 had them

[native ermine]

i mean you can get after market ones

[forest lintel]

True, but there are a thousand things higher on the priority list

[native ermine]

[spice compass]

Gotta love Roti's at half off.

[candid knot]

Dog i forgot how delicious this stuff is

[native ermine]

[muted knot]

😋

[white heart]

that exists ???

[civic spoke]

Commonplace with American cars. Since many there use the same for the turn signal and brakes.

Red turn signals is a big bruh.

[candid knot]

fire

[edgy bough]

Norway at its best.

[white heart]

that's so fucking stupid

[prisma frost]

I have so many questions

[white heart]

what is it with you americans and idiotic design

granted im french so that's not really something i can comment on

[edgy bough]

Yea, shoot.

[lone fern]

it’s so stupid but it’s cheap which is why automakers do it lol

i’ve nearly smoked a couple people in heavy snow when they decide they need their hazards on while driving (please never do this unless you’re stopped on the shoulder) and also hit the brakes. for some reason the hazards override brake lights and only the small third brake light lights up when they’re stopping

also new project acquired

[forest lintel]

That looks cool and possibly fun

[lone fern]

it will be very fun once I build a motor for it

debating on a built 5.3 or built 8.1 big block

but it will be my dunes rig, once I can afford shocks for it 😂

[edgy bough]

He's psssst. Let's not encourage the Americans.

They might do some stupid shit. Like lifting it

[forest lintel]

But who else are we going to laugh at while secretly being jealous?

[forest lintel]

Who needs shocks

As long as you have springs

[edgy bough]

Fine. You can be jealous. While i point and laugh.

[lone fern]

until I can afford some fox shocks i’ll run springs just the ride quality on the sand is so much better with shocks (you can get springs to be pretty good too though)

[lone fern]

oh it’s already lifted slightly but it’s not about to be some mall crawler, it’s getting trailered to the dunes and mud pit only lol

i gotta find a new hardtop for it though

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJIXa2kNSjG/?igsh=MXBnYnhzZTI1M2ZlYg==
this is essentially the goal other than that’s a pickup and mine isnt, and mine probably won’t look as nice

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[edgy bough]

You are an American with a truck, you will still find a way to lift it.

[lone fern]

it already is lifted

also it’s more of an suv with a removable hardtop but ig its built like a truck

[indigo axle]

if you got 2 car keys
You can start the car & keep it running
& lock the car with the other key & enter easily at a later stage during the day

[wispy cloak]

My truck is lowered

[wispy cloak]

Excessive idling is rough on engines

[dull cedar]

Also great way to have your car stolen

All they have to do is get past the door

Alarm won't even go off

[white heart]

yeah isnt it why buying old police cars is stupid or sum

[snow otter]

Miata fart cannon

Came in a slightly oversized box

[torn swan]

going to trash it soon lmao

226k

doesnt do a lot of km anymore

im lucky if it does 300

[civic spoke]

What was the range to start off with? Around 400 km?

EPA says 386–423 km
WLTP says 448 km.

[torn swan]

420

never did 400 tho

[civic spoke]

It's hard to do the rated range. If you're like me, then you use cabin preconditioning a lot. Which cuts down on the range by a whole bunch.

My BMW i3S currently says 174 km at 88%.

[wispy cloak]

Specifically dodge ones

[lone fern]

hemi tick will get ya

however by all means buy an ex police crown vic they don’t care bout idle hours, they just keep chugging along

[vagrant dune]

-25°C outside but at least I have random german bass to keep me distracted while my car warms up (already back home, didnt warm up in the 10 minutes at all lol)

[harsh quarry]

Stellantis
nothing surprises me anymore from them

Nobody buys the Pacifica in general anyways

[gentle thicket]

haha these old videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ-jYhTVs6g

[wispy cloak]

It's still arguably the best selling minivan in the US I think

The reason I say arguably is because the sienna was hot on its heels last I heard

I despise stellantis/mopar so I'm hoping they fail

[harsh quarry]

maybe the base model sold for fleets, but there aren't many options left for small vans over here

no more Transit Connect, no Nissan NV200 anymore, etc

if you need a van for transporting stuff you're also not gonna buy an Odyssey or Sienna for nearly 60K CAD (which are more premium and not really designed for commercial use anyways)

there's also Kia, but they basically sell no Carnival vans

[digital dove]

Some absolute legend let me rev out his brand new c8 z06

It has just 205 kilometres on the clock

[brittle totem]

Wait the I3s doesn't use power from grid when preheating?

Assuming that you had it plugged in?

[civic spoke]

Uses power grid if plugged in.

But if I'm only charging once a week, then that's 6 days when it isn't plugged in.

And if preheating uses 1% every 10 minutes. Then I could easily lose 10-20% if I'm leaving the heater going as I'm going to the store, or before/after work.

Haven't actually checked how much range I'm losing by using the preheater.

The i3S has enough of a battery buffer also that keeping it plugged in every day isn't the biggest of issues.

[halcyon grotto]

depending upon how it works it may preheat the battery somewhat so could reduce amortised energy usage (a bit anyway)?

[hearty grail]

Looking into getting my license and saving for my first car, I want a Nissan Altima, I see early 2000s-2010s ones going commonly for 1-5k, thoughts?

[jagged wagon]

Whatever car you look for, do your research. Make and model alone aren't good enough - you also want to research which model years have problems vs. those that don't. I'm not a Nissan person so I can't help you there, but I do know that (in general) Toyota Corolla's and Camry's from the 2000's are generally reliable if they were maintained over the years. Same with most Honda Civic's and Mazda 3 models in my experience.

[dull cedar]

Who would willingly want to be an Altima driver

If you want one because someone you trust suggested it, disown them

[hearty grail]

Cheap, decently powerful, okay looking

[dull cedar]

first lesson in cars: cheap cars are cheap for a reason

[hearty grail]

Well, what am I meant to do

I kind of have to buy a cheap car

[dull cedar]

https://youtube.com/shorts/iRd0Rs1z0Lg

[hearty grail]

I am stupid, please be direct with what you are trying to tell me or I won't understand

[dull cedar]

Toyota

Probably one that's older than you are

[hearty grail]

I don't want that though

[civic spoke]

I would stay away from anything with a CVT.

[dull cedar]

You don't really get to be picky when buying cheap first cars

You need something that isn't shit

[hearty grail]

I'm a weirdo and like them

Even tho everyone hates them

[civic spoke]

The issue is that they like to shit the bed.

[hearty grail]

I know :(

[civic spoke]

My first car was an E46 320i. Paid 50,000 SEK for it, and had it for 10 years.

[hearty grail]

I'm gonna get a manual one tho if I do get it

[civic spoke]

Then it could still be solid.
Just be sure to change all the fluids if it's a car you actually want to keep around for a while.

[hearty grail]

I'm hoping to possibly keep it till I can afford a GTR but that would be like 20+ years on an already 10+ YO car

Idk what I would get in between

[dull cedar]

Ok european

[lone fern]

DO NOT BUY an early 2000’s cvt nissan altima do. not. do. it

[hearty grail]

Anyways, I'm hoping to have it by the time I turn 17, only issue is I'm 16 currently and don't have my learners yet...

[lone fern]

nobody ever changes the fluid and most of the ones on fb marketplace are ready to shit the bed any minute now

[hearty grail]

If you read you would've seen that I said I'd go for a manual

[lone fern]

shit didn’t see that but honestly for your budget i think you could get a v6 camry or accord if you’re looking for power

[hearty grail]

CAD btw

[lone fern]

or a panther platform car which is arguably more fun lol

[hearty grail]

Also not a massive fan of the looks of those 2 (I know I'm picky for a first car but I don't wanna be driving around a shit box I don't like and feel bad about having)

[lone fern]

idk what v6 camry/accord prices are in canada but they’re available here in northern mi for 2k 🤷‍♂️ might be worth a look

trust me an altima also is going to look like a shit box

[hearty grail]

Looking in seeing 5-10k

[lone fern]

they came factory looking like that

[hearty grail]

I like them a bit

Just throw on some new rims and it'll look a lot better

I mean look at that

Those rims just catch your eye and make it look like 10x better

I would probably do something like these honestly

There's so many different rims with minor differences that it's so hard to choose between them

[lone fern]

yeah i mean the wheels do make it look nicer but realistically how nice of an altima can be found for 1-5k cad

i’m not familiar with the canadian market so i dunno what that buys ya

[hearty grail]

Quite a few decent ones, was checking earlier and theres alot

This one caught my eye but not sure what transmission it's got

It's a CVT

[lone fern]

have you heard of a pontiac vibe? they’re rebadged toyota matrixes and you can get a vibe gt with a 5-6speed manual depending on year, with a 2zz that revs to like 8,800rpm and is genuinely fun to drive

and can be had for cheap

[hearty grail]

I like CVTs but the reliability issues turn me off

[lone fern]

me and my buddies all had one at one point, I got rid of mine but the rest are still kicking and were all under a grand

yeah nissan cvts are ass do not buy.

my friend had an 08 rogue on it’s 3rd trans in under 170k on it lmao

[hearty grail]

Here's another one that's decent

It's the smaller 190hp engine tho

[lone fern]

i’m not sure on the reliability of their manual trans cars or the 2.5 but that seems awfully cheap especially considering it’s cad

[hearty grail]

It needs some repairs, they said they got quoted $1200 so $3500 at least is what I would expect the final cost to be

[lone fern]

did they say whats wrong with it

[hearty grail]

Internal slave cylinder leak

I know like nothing about cars apart from how they work

[jagged wagon]

Do not buy. While I too understand the appeal of getting the car you want... focus on getting a reliable daily driver for your first car so you can use it to make money / get to work / etc. Once you have the ability to save up, then you can focus on things you want. Needs first, wants second.

[hearty grail]

That listing won't be up when I'm ready to buy it anyways, I'm looking right now so that I know what I want when I'm ready to buy

I'm gonna get a job over the summer to buy it

So probably 6-8 months

[lone fern]

i googled it and saw people talking about having to drop the subframe to replace the slave cylinder 😬 not sure what the hourly shop rate is where you’re at but here it’s north of 150$ an hour so be wary bout labor costs as i assume you’re not fixing it yourself?

[hearty grail]

Yeah I'm not fixing it myself lol

That's sorta why I said $3500 isntead of the $2700 that would be the $1500 and the $1200 quote they got

[lone fern]

at the end of the day just remember you get what you pay for and when something’s cheap and somewhat new/nice there’s usually a catch, i’ve gotten burned on that before

bought a 98 honda crv with lowish mileage and zero rust for like 2k, drove great for 2 months, and it popped a head gasket, turns out the prev owner used blue devil headgasket sealer just to sell it and got my ass

[hearty grail]

I don't understand how people can just do that

[lone fern]

people want to make a quick buck and can’t afford or don’t want to fix stuff the right way

[hearty grail]

Like sell a car knowing that the person who bought it is gonna get fucked down the line because you withheld info

[lone fern]

some people are scum

[hearty grail]

I'm playing beamng right now with my stupid 4 door sedan that has a 2600hp engine lol

[jagged wagon]

Lots of people quite literally have 0.01% of a moral conscience. They see it as "welp, not my problem anymore; I made my money and the buyer didn't do a proper inspection. Sucks to suck. Seeya later, loser!"

[hearty grail]

Glad I didn't get that "personality"

[dull cedar]

Trust me when I say you don't want a car with that much power as your first

Also where'd you get 190 from? Everything I can find says 175

[hearty grail]

Idk I just searched Nissan Altima 2.5 HP and it said 190

[hearty grail]

I do tho because I wanna keep it for a long time

[dull cedar]

Always include the year.

190hp is the current gen 2.5

and never use the AI result

why come here to ask for thoughts if you're not going to listen to people that actually know what they're talking about?

you do not want this as a first car

First money problem with higher power stuff is the tyres. They're bigger. They're more expensive.

Second is engine complexity

If something goes, which it will on a cheap Altima, it won't be cheap to fix

[calm widget]

Any f1 fans

[civic spoke]

https://youtu.be/sPt6ctif-UY

[charred depot]

more fun, I have literal bags of rust and various bits that I have removed from this car going around welding rusty bits.

This was meant to be a car I could risk crashing on track and not be too bothered but now I have so much time invested into it I wont be so careless

[dull cedar]

After these repairs you can have a minor crash without literally snapping the car in half

Assuming your welds are good

[charred depot]

Most of the main structural areas of the car is alright else I would have left it condemned, it has a lot of rust but most of it in "cosmetic" areas.

[flint sable]

this is such a fire image actually

i love the vibe

because of gran turismo

[sacred monolith]

i have a question about a few cars

[hearty grail]

What about an early 2000s BMW?

[sacred monolith]

since im starting to prepare for my drivings licence

i need to buy a car

as a first car

i liked a few models

i live in europe

[lone fern]

hell yeah i had no idea it was in grand turismo 😂😂 the vibe gts are actually super fun to drive lol

[sacred monolith]

Alfa 159 1.9 jtdm/2.4 jtdm
Honda civic 8th gen hatchback 2.2 n22a/ 1.8 gasoline
Lexus is xe20 with a 2.2 dcat or a 2.5 4gr

these are the ones i have looked at

they are in my budget 6000 euro

not sure which is the best fit for me

i also have looked at some VAG models but i didnt like anything

[hearty grail]

I just found a twin turbo 2008 bmw for less than 4 grand wtf

[sacred monolith]

any ideas

[civic spoke]

The Honda and Lexus might be a bit more affordable to maintain.
Whatever car you do get. Make sure that it gets a good inspection prior to you buying it.
You would rather spend €50 on an inspection and not need it. Then not do it, and require €€€ in repairs as soon as you pick it up.

[sacred monolith]

i checked the honda and the alfa 1.9 have basically the same maintanance

[pure pond]

alfa is nice but not the same maintanance as a honda

[sacred monolith]

but the alfa has a more expensive suspension maintanance because of its weight

and more frequent one at that

[sacred monolith]

the diesel honda has a pretty expensive dual mass flyweel

and a very expensive clutch set

[civic spoke]

I'm thinking more that it's easier to find a good affordable shop for a Honda and Lexus, compared to Alfa. At least here in Sweden.

[pure pond]

and junkjard

[sacred monolith]

you are absolutely right

italian cars are exotic in bulgaria

germans are the most widely used

followed by the japanese ones

then by the korean

[hearty grail]

As my first car i feel like I should probably go with a small sedan or hatchback for practicality.

[civic spoke]

But whatever you do. Make sure that you keep maybe €3,000 around for any unplanned repairs.

[sacred monolith]

yea

i have picked out these because i have looked at them irl

[harsh quarry]

Toyota Matrix 🔥

[civic spoke]

Remember that any form of transportation is better than none.

Reminds me that you also need to take insurance and all of that into account.

[pure pond]

Facts^
My 600euro shitbox for temp daily, fresh MOT

it does suck tho

doors wont lock realy slow on the highway

[flint sable]

i got my electric skateboard in college

saving so much money on insurance

[lone fern]

beats walkin tho

[flint sable]

and i dont feel like getting hit by a floridian driver

[lone fern]

ouch florida

[hearty grail]

I also wanna get something with 200-300hp tho

[pure pond]

as a starter car?

[hearty grail]

Yes

[sacred monolith]

Dacia for the win

Actually Dacia is not a bad idea

[hearty grail]

My mom's has ~300 and is slow

[sacred monolith]

But they are really underpowered

[civic spoke]

I fuck with Dacia.

Underpowered cars are fun.

[lone fern]

yeah especially small light ones

means you can ring them out without getting into too much trouble

[hearty grail]

Yes

[civic spoke]

Then you don't know what slow is.

[hearty grail]

I do

[lone fern]

what car does she have then

[hearty grail]

'05 Tahoe z71

[lone fern]

well no shit it’s an suv lmao

[hearty grail]

It's totally not slow cuz it's like 2700kg

[hearty grail]

*truck

[pure pond]

200-300hp in a smaller car is way different

[lone fern]

a tahoe is a fullsize suv chief

[civic spoke]

And it has a slushbox. Too.

[hearty grail]

Also a truck

It's both

But I say truck

[lone fern]

300 horsepower in a sedan versus a truck is an insanely different driving experience

[hearty grail]

That's why I said 200-300

I also don't understand how a 5.3L V8 only makes 300hp but whatever

[lone fern]

because it’s a truck motor built to tow

horsepower doesn’t tow

torque does

[hearty grail]

I think its not even that high torque either

[pure pond]

https://tenor.com/view/jeremy-clarkson-jeremy-clarkson-farm-sad-gif-9058546197843845638

[civic spoke]

You know. I think my old E46 320i accelerated to 100 kmh faster than a '05 Tahoe.

[hearty grail]

Okay it's 450nm that's actually not low

[civic spoke]

And 'only' 170 hp in that.

[hearty grail]

I'd be down for 170 ngl

Anything higher than 150 id be happy with

But I saw a '08 535i for $3,650 and that caught my eye

[lone fern]

yeah my first car (03 malibu with 170 horsepower) is considerably faster than the tahoe too

[civic spoke]

My BMW i3S is maybe a second faster to 100 kmh. I think that I did right around the 7 second mark?

[hearty grail]

That's around what I want

7-8s 0-100

[lone fern]

prepare to open the wallet monthly to maintain that thing lol

[hearty grail]

I really don't care about the top speed much, I don't want to drive it fast, I just want to be able to accelerate fast, even with 2+ passenger

[civic spoke]

As someone who have owned a petrol BMW.
Yeah, maintaining it is expensive.

[pure pond]

and thats really cheap for a 535i

[forest lintel]

They are starting to get old and have lots of things needing fixing, not a good first car, you need to have money for repairs

[pure pond]

dont expect much

[lone fern]

yeah that shits gonna blow as soon as someone else buys it

taillight warranty on that one 😂😂😭

[pure pond]

😂

[civic spoke]

My radiator blew on my E46.

[lone fern]

😭

[hearty grail]

Early 2010s Altima?

[civic spoke]

Surprisingly enough, the plastic expansion tank was fine.

[hearty grail]

Preferably V6 manual

[forest lintel]

No idea, not a car I would ever look at tbh

[civic spoke]

It would be really fun with an old Toyota with a blacktop engine.

[forest lintel]

A good first car would be an E110 Corolla, ugly, underpowered, but much more fun than anything else you can afford on a reasonable budget

[hearty grail]

I hate the look of Toyotas

[lone fern]

imo a first car should be a humbling experience in something slow and shitty because you’ll have more fun in the slow and shitty car than anything else

[hearty grail]

Anything but a shit box toyota

[lone fern]

again an altima is no better

[hearty grail]

Looks better

[forest lintel]

There's a reason, or many actually, that everyone is recommending them

[lone fern]

i doubt there’s anything that is reliable with a 7-8second 0-60 time under 5k cad and that looks good

ya gotta compromise somewhere

[pure pond]

here a toyota starlet is the starter car

[forest lintel]

Looks are the least important thing when you're looking for a first car on a budget

[lone fern]

especially when you consider young first time drivers statistically tend to wreck it anyways

[hearty grail]

This one looks decent but it's a '96

[lone fern]

why not learn in some piece of shit and buy something nicer later

[hearty grail]

Also the headlights are kinda meh

[forest lintel]

This

[lone fern]

very foggy headlights lol

[hearty grail]

The plan is buy a GTR

And modify it

In like 20+ years

Preferably 10 but how am I gonna make 200k for a car before I turn 30

[forest lintel]

A cheap car reliable will make that dream come sooner rather than later or never

[jagged wagon]

It doesn't. It only makes 5.3 L 285 hp (213 kW) because it's a Vortec 5300 V8
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Tahoe#Second_generation_(2000)

[jagged wagon]

This is what I said last night too. It's good to have dreams. But it's also good to be realistic.

I didn't jump straight to buying a SubUwU because reliable models post-head gasket explosions were well outside my price range. Went with a reliable trusty Toyota to start with, then sold it for a SubUwU once I had the money.

[civic spoke]

Old fuel-crisis era V8's were fun.
Oh, you have an 8 liter V8. But only 190 hp.

[hearty grail]

I mean I'm going into aerospace engineering but it's gonna be a while before I start making good cash

I first need to do post-secondarys

Which is what, 4 years?

[lone fern]

precisely why you should buy some reliable beater, get through college, and once you start making real money and have a place to live, get the nice car

[hearty grail]

That makes it 6 years from now before I can even start thinking about making good money

[hearty grail]

I'm not doing college, I'm doing uni

[civic spoke]

Remember that $100 isn't a lot to have.
But it's a lot to owe.

[lone fern]

I’ve been driving for 5 years now and have drove shitboxes until late last year when I started making real money as a pipefitter, bought my own home, and paid 12k cash for my 18 regal. wouldn’t have been able to do any of that if I was constantly being nickle and dimed with an expensive unreliable car.

[hearty grail]

I still want something somewhat nice as my first car, that's why the "budget" is so high

[pure pond]

i could buy my dream car but sadly owning a house is more important 😭 😂 if i even can buy a house here

[forest lintel]

Get an old Corolla

[jagged wagon]

Same. I fear we'll have devolved into the cities exemplified by the movie Idiocracy before I get a house.

[hearty grail]

Plan is I should have $4800 by the end of this summer

[civic spoke]

Use the budget to get something reliable over something that's "nice".

[hearty grail]

2 months working full time might kill me but it's worth it

[hearty grail]

I want something reliable and noce

Nice as in solely really looks

[forest lintel]

Old Corollas are more fun to drive than most things with a lot of power, because unlike those cars you can actually drive them on the limit

[hearty grail]

I just want it to look somewhat decent and not make me wanna puke looking at it

[forest lintel]

Buy some stupid rims and whatever, make it your own

[hearty grail]

That was the plan honestly

[lone fern]

accords aren’t bad

[civic spoke]

Affordable.
Nice.
Reliable.
Picking two of these is generally what you have to do.

[hearty grail]

The plan was to buy an altima and get aftermarket rims smth like this

[civic spoke]

I ran OEM wheels on my E46. But from an X3. Ran a square 225/45R17.

[pure pond]

https://tenor.com/view/nissan-gif-25592290

[jagged wagon]

Can confirm. It's fun learning how to fishtail a Front Wheel Drive down logging roads.

[hearty grail]

Yeah but, super ugly

[civic spoke]

The rims and tires were only in the $700 range. And that's with fresh Michelin rubber.

[hearty grail]

Some of the newer ones look okay

Also they aren't really that cheap

$5k is already pushing it especially if I wanna get new rims

[lone fern]

did you see the pic i sent of the listing?

looks better than an altima for sure

[hearty grail]

Okay that one looks pretty decent

I don't know where you are but I'm not getting a 2010 on for that price or anywhere near it

[forest lintel]

That's why you should go for this

[hearty grail]

A 2008 one is $5k

[hearty grail]

Those rims do alot

Looks actually decent

What is it?

[forest lintel]

E110 Corolla

[hearty grail]

None near me (as of now)

[hearty grail]

It's gotta be the rims making this look like shit right?

[lone fern]

you can get a 2000 camry to look pretty decent with a set of wheels too

[forest lintel]

Most things really

[lone fern]

i mean yeah steelies don’t always look great plus the rust

could just be on winter wheels like mine tho

pretty common to throw winter tires on a cheap set of steel wheels

[hearty grail]

Why not just use all-weather tires?

[civic spoke]

Because nothing compares to an actual set of winter tires.

[hearty grail]

Why not just sue winter tires year round

[lone fern]

they wear out super quick on dry and hot pavement

like 10k miles quick lol

[hearty grail]

Good thing it's not hot here

Nvm it's both hot and cold

It got to like 35 last summer

[forest lintel]

And most winter tires are not great in wet conditions

[hearty grail]

Well then they can't be good for winter???

Especially here

[lone fern]

i’m talking anything above freezing wears them out

[hearty grail]

Our winters are wet

[lone fern]

my winter tires do fine in the rain and slush tbh

[civic spoke]

Here's a test with All Terrain tires in the snow. And they bought a used set of winters as a reference.

[lone fern]

i’ve got studs in mine too so ice is no issue

[civic spoke]

Winter tire was like 5 seconds faster than the fastest AT Tire.

[lone fern]

can start and stop great compared to everyone else when it’s hella icey

[hearty grail]

How about on a road that's covered in 3 inches of ice from snow constantly melting and refreezing

[civic spoke]

I was skidding something bad today. Some patches are BAD out here.

[lone fern]

they’d eat it up

[civic spoke]

Driving slowly to a red light, maybe 10-15 mph. And I brake, and I skid, and I skid, and I skid...

[lone fern]

i was BLOWN away with how awesome they were, it was my first set in the winter (usually just rocked allseasons and that was not fun)

[lone fern]

the worst feeling

[forest lintel]

That's how I felt when I got winter tires that were less than 10 years old

[lone fern]

😂😂 i could imagine

old old snow tires probably harden up a bit lmao

[civic spoke]

https://youtu.be/9lMTDHcgdO8

[civic spoke]

I need to get new ones for the next season.

Asking myself if I should get studded or not.

[forest lintel]

Quite a lot, so much understeer in a rear wheel drive car you'd have thought it was fwd

[lone fern]

i love the studs despite their illegality here (been pulled over with no issues haha)

they do make quite some noise when it’s dry though lol

[lone fern]

jeez 😂

[hearty grail]

I'm like "Okay, that rear end looks decent, let's look at the front"

And I get hit with this

🤢

[lone fern]

nothing a little junkyard trip couldn’t fix

just a bumper

and that god awful rock chip protector

[civic spoke]

Could easily haggle down the price because of it.

[lone fern]

definitely

[civic spoke]

https://youtu.be/FIZvzmLXrR8

[hearty grail]

Is it a good decision to buy my first car when I still have only my learners license

[jagged wagon]

If you have the money and can find something reliable that isn't a bajillion $, IMO yes. Then again, I don't like financing anything because it makes me beholden to things outside of my direct control.

[hearty grail]

As long as I keep it parked on private property I shouldn't need insurance right?

Well unless I want to actually learn to drive it then I will

[jagged wagon]

Impossible for me to answer as I don't know your local laws. Where I live, technically this is true, though if I don't have insurance and it's broken into or a tree falls on it... goodbye items in car, or goodbye car.

[hearty grail]

AB, Canada, I live in a complex with an underground parking garage so it would stay decently protected from nature

[lone fern]

odds are the complex probably requires it have plates on it which would require insurance

[jagged wagon]

I would lookup your provincial laws, but also lookup your complex's Strata / HoA / Community League (ew gross 🤢 🤮 ) laws too, as they may prohibit uninsured vehicles from being on the property for safety reasons.

[dull cedar]

Absolutely fucking not. Have you listened to anything that's been said?

No turbos. No more than 4 cylinders.

no suspiciously cheap shit

no 160+hp shit that's going to bankrupt you

[hearty grail]

How about 175

[dull cedar]

No.

No Altima.

[hearty grail]

Why

[dull cedar]

so you haven't listened to anything that's been said

#cars message

[hearty grail]

I've been told as long as I avoid problematic years/models and CVTs I'll be fine

[dull cedar]

so you still haven't listened to anything that's been said here

Read the linked message

Maintenance is a thing

[hearty grail]

175 isnt even much

If I don't go for the V6 model which is 270

[dull cedar]

I saw your earlier messages about 300hp and whatever.... You don't know shit about cars. Please stop thinking you know more than us, and listen.

[hearty grail]

If I thought I knew more I wouldn't be asking

[dull cedar]

Yea you are asking but you're not listening

If you were listening you still wouldn't be saying the stuff you're saying

[hearty grail]

I wanted the V6 earlier but I realized yeah that's a dumb decision and that I don't need it

It's just extra price for something I don't need right now

[dull cedar]

With a like 90-130hp shitbox you can get away with 175-185 wide tyres easily. These are cheap and very easy to get.
Acceleration will be plenty. You floor it and choose when to change gear.

The Altima has 215 wide tyres

These are expensive

@hearty grail ^

[hearty grail]

How often do I need to replace tires?

[dull cedar]

Depends on how much you drive and the kind of driving, and the tyres you get

[hearty grail]

From what I can find the difference is only about $25 per tire

[lone fern]

i wouldn’t necessarily worry about tire cost too much but it is def something to keep in mind, especially with low profile or giant wheel size tires

215’s are pretty small relative to modern cars today so they’re still decently cheap

[jagged wagon]

As soon as every 15 minutes of driving (on the racetrack) to every ~10 years, assuming the car is stored out of direct sunlight and above ~5 C on average. If you drive like most average people, likely every ~4-5 years or however many thousands of KM's the tyres are rated for. This varies from tyre to tyre model, so check the documentation.

[lone fern]

i drive about 80k miles a year so I usually get a year and a half max on my reg tires, not sure on my winters yet because this is my first season with them

[hearty grail]

Okay then a $100 difference isn't really much to worry about

[lone fern]

no i wouldn’t worry about it

[hearty grail]

So my expenses will be
Car
Second set of tires
Set set of rims for those tires
Insurance
Oil and filters

I can change oil myself

Possibly a jack and jack stands so I can change my wheels by myself

[harsh quarry]

what's the rush? like what's the advantage of buying it now vs later

[harsh quarry]

imagine choosing to drive an Altima 💀 why would you do that to yourself

[harsh quarry]

don't forget gas, you don't want a first car that's gonna chug fuel

[hearty grail]

Yeah it's a small 2.5l i4 so it probably won't be much

Gas prices have been going down recently where I live

I've seen it I think under a dollar for a gallon

I actually don't know if it's per gallon or liter tbh

[dull cedar]

2.5 is a pretty big 4 cylinder

It will use quite a bit of gas

[hearty grail]

Yeah true that's like 625cc each cylinder

[dull cedar]

The combined average mpg is kinda shit tbh

uses considerably more than my 2ZZ corolla

[carmine summit]

theres no way its gallons

in the US gas prices range from like $2.80 to $8 per gallon

and $2.80 is dirt cheap

[dull cedar]

and I don't even drive the thing carefully

[dull cedar]

You're Canadian, right? It's litres

And yeah no way that price is a gallon lol

[dull cedar]

I'm not saying worry about the tyres specifically, it's just things like this add up on more powerful vehicles

Everything is beefier, everything costs more

Tyres are just the easiest example

like the injectors on my 2ZZ, they're $320nzd each from the dealer. Can't get them new anywhere else. The alternative is suspiciously cheap Chinese ones

Which apparently the previous owner chose to use, and they're already noisy

[hearty grail]

Okay yeah

It's usually like 1.40 tho so it's been pretty low

[dull cedar]

Fuel tends to be cheaper over the winter

Less demand

[dull cedar]

I'm paying the equivalent of like $2.2cad/litre for 98 RON at the moment

good thing my car doesn't average 9 litres per 100k like the 2.5 Altima

it's 8 at the worst and usually 7.2, or in the 6s if I just do long distance on good roads

and makes more power 😎

just ignore the $1.3k nzd for set of genuine injectors

[stoic ledge]

98 RON is €2.20/L at cheap stations, €2.50/L at expensive (motorway) fuel stations now here (3.60-4.05 CAD/L - 10.00-11.40 USD/gal)

Luckily I can refuel across the border and save a lot

[dull cedar]

Yikes

[white heart]

how has that thing been treating you btw ?

[dull cedar]

Great

[white heart]

found time to change the gearstick and AC yet ?

[dull cedar]

knob was the first thing I changed, pretty sure you've seen it

I got the parts to do the AC but haven't installed them yet

Just did the head unit because the Philips piece of crap it had died

Which stole the AC installing money

[white heart]

oh yeah i remember now

[white heart]

aw that sucks

[white heart]

goodluck on that

[dull cedar]

At least I have android auto now

[white heart]

you got time though were still in winter (unless it's summer over in new zealand i forgot)

[white heart]

that's an upgrade

[dull cedar]

It's the middle of summer here

It sucks

We just had two 30+ days in a row

[white heart]

oh yeah southern hemisphere

[white heart]

that sucks

we had two -5 days in a row lol

fucking sucks when you bike to school everyday

[white heart]

does the window work at least

[dull cedar]

Yes lol

[white heart]

cause i remember my sister's car had a broken AC and the window fuse or sum fucked up

so she was stuck in a boiling oven 😭

[dull cedar]

But open windows suck when the wind is strong and hot

[white heart]

welp i hope ya get to fix your AC soon man

[white heart]

why dont you just bike to your job then /J

[dull cedar]

Dad has recently offered to pay for the recharge and line flush

Because he could feel the head coming out of the car when I got in it the other day

[white heart]

lmaoo

[white heart]

that's nice

[dull cedar]

That would just be riding my bike from the garage to the car, I drive all day lol

[white heart]

fair enough

i bike to school everyday cause i got less than 2 km from it

[dull cedar]

Just need to get a quote for the mobile AC guy to come do it

[white heart]

welp goodluck on that

i hope you dont get dried like a raisins before that

[brittle totem]

I can highly recommend BMW 130i if its available whew you live also pretty reliable if you get one that well maintained.

[brittle totem]

Unless its very heavy 300hp is more then you ever need. Imo around 250-260hp in car that weights less 1500kg is all you need and you can have fun on b roads without going way over the speed limit. I have driven 340I with around 500hp didn't find that fun as soon put you foot on gas you where going way to fast.

[hearty grail]

Sadly none :(

[brittle totem]

E60 is bad idea E90 much cheaper to run. But i would recommend 330i the N52 is way more reliable then N54.

[brittle totem]

Not getting insurance is probably stupid things you can also isn't it illegal to drive without any insurance?

[brittle totem]

N52/M57 are general good if well maintained the rest i would just avoid.

[dull cedar]

shush European. We're talking about a first car for someone in NA

[brittle totem]

Yeah that sucks then 330i best option if you want BMW but its very important to get one with good service record.

[brittle totem]

You still got the N52 right?

[dull cedar]

I'm not american

[brittle totem]

I guess not M57 becuase its diesel.

[dull cedar]

A BMW is a horrible idea as a first car outside of Europe

[forest lintel]

It's a horrible idea for someone on a budget that is unable or unwilling to play mechanic anywhere

[dull cedar]

And just horrible for the wallet in general

[forest lintel]

My E36 wasn't too bad, but that was long ago and with a M42

Wouldn't be great today

[dull cedar]

A 255hp i6 rwd euro car is the opposite of a good first car

crashed in the first day of snow, guaranteed

[brittle totem]

That's huge skill issue then.

[forest lintel]

New drivers are rarely skilled

[dull cedar]

also 95 fuel required with 98 preferred

[brittle totem]

If you manage to crash with decent winter tires especially with DTC on you shouldn't be driving.

[dull cedar]

How old are you?

[forest lintel]

That's a bold statement

[brittle totem]

Got 130i as my first car lots of snow right now no issues at all although i had my license for 3 years before i got it so i driven alot + decent amount of sim racing. But if you keep DTC on its pretty impossible to loose control even when its lots snow outside.
The biggest issue is probably people not getting decent winter tires to begin with not the car itself.

[dull cedar]

Doesn't really count as your first car if you drove for 3 years prior. Just the first car you actually owned

[brittle totem]

Honestly not DTC limits the power so much and steps in as soon you loose grip even driving with DTC half off is fine it still got you back if you start to slide to much. But only if you got decent/good tires.

[forest lintel]

But you weren't a new driver then, and it's very possible to crash with stability control on, misjudge braking distance, go into a corner too fast, etc etc

[brittle totem]

21

[dull cedar]

This image is fitting

[brittle totem]

True but still my first winter with RWD and also here in Sweden we have mandatory skid course you need to do get your license where you get to feel how it loose control and how the control it. Imo every country that gets proper winter should have that.

[dull cedar]

you got that car after 3 years of driving and so far haven't binned it yet and are still young and dumb enough to think you'll remain fine forever

[dull cedar]

Yeah Canadians don't have that

[brittle totem]

95 is the lowest we have here 98 isn't much more expensive either. But USA general pretty poor fuel quality from my understanding?

[dull cedar]

The point is that they're on a heavily limited budget and haven't driven before, they should be getting a corolla or whatever other cheap low power fwd shitbox that's cheap as chips to run and driving that at least until they have a stable job

[brittle totem]

I just don't do stupid things on the roads and always keep long distance car Infront. But yeah lots of new drivers have no "risk management" and drives much faster then they are capable off. But also most drivers in general are pretty bad and keeping good distance to car Infront idk how it can be that hard for some drivers.

[dull cedar]

People are impatient

[brittle totem]

Yeah you are right i waited pretty long time get my first car i wanted something nice and something i could afford comfortably.

[dull cedar]

I drove my 94 corolla harder than I've ever dared to drive my 01 190hp corolla wagon

Gotten sideways in the rain and ice multiple times in that thing... Would never dare to try that in the wagon

[brittle totem]

Yeah i was lucky and could borrow my parents cars if needed so i had no rush to get my own.

[dull cedar]

Well at least with cornering, gone much faster on the motorway

[brittle totem]

I fond it much easier to keep good distance instead of needing to small "micro adjustments" all the time because you are to close to the car infront.

[dull cedar]

Bro read the channel name

[dull cedar]

but then you miss passing opportunities if you're too far back 😉

[brittle totem]

Even with 20 years old RWD BMW its almost impossible to go sideways if you keep DTC fully on honestly surprised how good it works on such old car only times i have gone sideways have been on purpose so far.

[nova vortex]

drunk me thought it was tech chat

bmw 340i

there

i cleaned myself

[dull cedar]

Put your phone away when you're drunk

[nova vortex]

im not drunk

im just brain fogged

[dull cedar]

Lol who has traction control

[nova vortex]

x5er touring

[brittle totem]

Well obvious i go close if going to overtake but when you are just cruising i keep pretty big distance no need take stupid risk.

[dull cedar]

Ill find the broom and sweep you outta here if you keep saying random BMW names

[nova vortex]

i swear the new cla sucks

looks overdone

[dull cedar]

no one asked

[nova vortex]

well

no one did anyways

[brittle totem]

That's what i was saying before if you have modern car older one with good Traction control pretty much idiot proof unless you have terrible tires.

[brittle totem]

As every Mercedes the past 5 years.

Interior is just RGB spam.

[nova vortex]

pretty much

[dull cedar]

There's one intersection near here where a road out of a town joins the main highway, and a few times I've gotten into the northbound merge lane right as a truck is passing and I've floored it and made it past the truck before the end of the lane 😎 couldn't do that in the 94

[nova vortex]

but the c118 tho

[dull cedar]

Sure, and double/triple the budget

[hearty grail]

In not unwilling just unknowledgeable

The most I know how to do is an oil change

[forest lintel]

That's good, but at your budget it's not a good idea regardless, BMWs get expensive quick, especially a cheap old one

[brittle totem]

Yeah always save up until you can comfortable afford the car you want and get on with good history/Service record. I would personally avoid all BMW from mid 2000s that doesn't have the N52 or M57 engine. They are generally great if well maintained.

[forest lintel]

N52B25 should probably be avoided, but that might exist in NA?

M54 is a good engine too, but age is catching up with it

[brittle totem]

Yeah meant N52B30 that you get in the 130I/330i

But i'm pretty NA only got that version since 325i isn't a thing their they only got 328i/330i and i think boith of them have N52B30.

[hearty grail]

The car I want is $100k+ sooo

[prisma frost]

Time to start saving

[harsh quarry]

yeah in Canada we use metric, but where I live in Canada gas is closer to $1.50 CAD/L

also yeah someone mentioned fuel grades and that's another good consideration for your first car. I wouldn't recommend getting something that needs 91 AKI

[civic spoke]

That's cheap.

I think ours is like 50% more expensive.

[harsh quarry]

what country?

[civic spoke]

Sweden

[harsh quarry]

ah makes sense

for North America, we basically have the most expensive gas here, just to put it in perspective

Americans have it sooo cheap

[supple anchor]

Brick is back on the road

[civic spoke]

Bricked up.

[hearty grail]

Is this an okay price for rims?

I'm gonna need to buy new rims and tires for a winter set so I wanna get some that look good

CAD btw not USD

[forest lintel]

Seems alright, might be worth considering that gloss black might not be glossy most of the winter, and also Y spokes are a pain to clean

[misty mantle]

I love it when my starter shears a bolt tab off in the Orileys parking lot

[supple anchor]

Gotta stay bricked

[harsh quarry]

gloss black is gonna be gray unless you're always cleaning it

[hearty grail]

Would something like these be easier to clean?

[lone fern]

oh heavens

[civic spoke]

Fewer spokes = Easier to clean.

Oh, they are the same model. Just glossy and not?

Non-gloss is probably easier to keep clean

[hearty grail]

I don't think so

They arent

They are quite different

This entire area is different

[civic spoke]

Much easier to tell out the difference.

Yeah. The Envy will be much easier to clean.

[native ermine]

right rim is a better look imo

[misty mantle]

Bronco is getting parked until I get it fixed

Driving this beaut for the next couple weeks

[civic spoke]

Same. Right one has too much going on.

[native ermine]

you mean the left one

[hearty grail]

I think so too

Plus cheaper

$600 for 4

Keep in mind they will be going on an altima

[native ermine]

oof

[lone fern]

oh my goodness i love it

fav trucks of all time

definitely don’t own a couple

[forest lintel]

Still a Y spoke but yes, should be somewhat easier

[brittle totem]

Yeah not fan of black rims at all i find silver rims looking better 90% of the time.

[wild orchid]

these cars last absolutely forever!

[exotic turtle]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2026/01/14/tesla-fsd-subscription-only-feb-14-elon-musk/88174992007/

1200 bucks a year for level 2 self driving lol

[gentle thicket]

Apparently they don't want to sell it anymore.

[exotic turtle]

Thats what im thinking. Maybe musk is trying to sink the company

[gentle thicket]

Nah, when it's monthly they can no longer support older cars so people buy a new one and also so they don't have to refund purchases because it sucks.

[civic spoke]

$100 a month is A LOT.

[exotic turtle]

especially since its nothing special compared to other cars with self driving at this point

its still level 2, meaning you still have to keep your hands on the wheel and alert

[pure pond]

thats good i dont want people using to sleep while driving

and that shit already happens

[tiny wasp]

that's like a bit under a ford Sierra's price (before fees)

[tiny wasp]

and that's a one time payment

[harsh quarry]

I didn't think they were even legally allowed to call it "self-driving"

[lone fern]

what in the everloving fuck ford your damn quad beam halogen headlights are so insanely bright 😭

sitting in a parking lot when he pulled up and cooked my retinas

[tender dirge]

my dad has a honda elevate go check it on the internet

he also has a honda jazz/fit

[gentle thicket]

this is basically all modern headlights. 🙁

[fallen coyote]

my humble wagon c:

[fallen coyote]

Not in my experience. I mostly get zoinked by old halogens that are not adequately aligned.

[charred depot]

Even if a halogen is aimed to max height I can happily drive towards it.

New mini's are some of the biggest offenders I see

One thing I notice is HGV lights are always perfect, no problems ever and realistically they need the best visibility

[civic spoke]

G30 5 Series is a great looking car.

[fallen coyote]

HGV? I mean SUVs are another kind of horrible in regards to that but welp

[charred depot]

thats my point, SUVs take the piss but somehow truck headlights dont

[fallen coyote]

absolutely loving the G31, it's a B57D30O2 btw c:

[fallen coyote]

anything that has headlights that high should not be allowed to drive on the road

[forest lintel]

I guess trucks where you live aren't fitted with a million additional lights and meeting them is like driving into the sun for several kilometers

[charred depot]

lol I get that experience when they flash to say hi or whatever to another truck at night

[gentle thicket]

I think for me it is that they cram so much light into such a tiny hole that it makes it glaring and annoying. Even incorrectly set older lights aren't as annoying because the lights are physically larger.

[charred depot]

yeah its ridiculous, I hate the fact that we have decided the general brightness level is acceptable if they auto level but it doesen't take into account geography and assumes everywhere is perfectly flat

even if stuff is perfectly aimed with the undulations we have here you are going to end up experiencing the full force of someones dipped beam a lot.

[fallen coyote]

summer wheels btw

[civic spoke]

Not the biggest fan of black rims.

Love the chrome trim however.

[fallen coyote]

i mean it does accentuate the chrome bits and lowers the amount of sparkles

[velvet spruce]

Mclaren W1

[fallen coyote]

I mean alt girls do alt girl things lmao

[gentle thicket]

black rims do this neat thing where they almost appear to not be there when spinning.

[civic spoke]

Legitimately thinking about replacing the black rims on my i3S.

[sturdy wasp]

Well that's not supposed to be wet

[snow otter]

😏

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915695119074725888/1461389443532329098/20260115_163343.mp4?ex=696a607a&is=69690efa&hm=5d9752940a65b1f1d140c40d94172e9b31ac1316231fbcfeafc756b0e5fadeb2&

[hearty grail]

I just watched my moms truck hit 5k rpm for the first time EVER

only because we were going up a hill and it downshifted for higher torque

It usually cruises at 1-2k

I've genuinely seen this thing go 140kmh and not hit 5k

And it's not like it's got a bunch of gears or anything it's a 4 speed automatic

[lone fern]

is a downshift that surprising lmao

it went up a hill and downshifted like it should i’m confused lmao

[full gate]

Has been a while now since I've been to the Nurburgring, was definitely worth it though.

[somber lintel]

would this be a good purchase

[jagged wagon]

No. It's a FORD product.

[somber lintel]

I want an old police car

[jagged wagon]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Crown_Victoria_Police_Interceptor

[somber lintel]

I already have a crown vic

[civic spoke]

Relevant. https://youtu.be/2uH_X-9fjfI

[paper sandal]

Guys. a technical question

would an ABS block that came with all disc brakes work with same car that has rear drum brakes?

[pure pond]

it will work but not how it supposed to

[paper sandal]

how so?
The block liiks identica, but IDK about the guts.

[willow sierra]

ALPINE A110

IS GOATED

[harsh quarry]

man I wish we had french cars here in Canada

idk if my fellow Canadians heard the news, but we're allowing Chinese cars here now in exchange for canola oil and other exports

I would love to see BYD over here

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carney-meeting-xi-china-9.7047880

[tiny wasp]

true

[willow sierra]

Lucky bro

[hearty grail]

Yeah I've just never seen it go that high, even when down shifting

[lone fern]

it is finally time to install my custom winterfront (tar paper lmaoo) for my trucks because they won’t warm up at all

we shall see if my car needs one too but windchills of -35 next week 🥶

[dull cedar]

The only thing I'm getting from this is your parents drive like grandmas

Never floored it in their lives

[willow sierra]

lol

[wraith rivet]

Do you think making a 3d printed, spray foam insulated case for drill batteries would protect them from temperature degradation if they’re left in a car

[burnt cliff]

Guys some BYD cars r gonna be coming to canada soon

[harsh quarry]

ye I shared a CBC article earlier today ^

I'm not the target market for these cars, but I think freer trade is a good thing for us.

[dull cedar]

Mmm I love impossibly cheap poorly designed cars that destroy the used market

I guess it's better than the impossibly expensive poorly designed cars that Ford, GM, and Stellantis make

just buy a Toyota ffs, if you can't afford a new car don't buy a new car

[fallen coyote]

look what I saw yesterday :3

[pure pond]

some people....

[past copper]

WE had a semi like that, except it was all gears because clutch brake is completely whooped out and useless. Who needs repairs when you can just grind 4th until she pops in.

[charred depot]

door 👍

[lone fern]

grind em till ya find em

[harsh quarry]

They won't be impossibly cheap over here. They're still going to be tariffed, but at low amount. They can also only sell a limited quantity (for now)

I've also heard great things about BYD. I think more competition is good because the American manufacturers are asleep at the wheel with EVs rn

[flint sable]

great picture

[prisma frost]

Is it normal to still have quite a lot of what guessing is condensation coming from the exhaust even after car is driven warm or is this because its cold outside rn.

[south jackal]

A Toyota from 20 or more years ago yes. Not new ones.

[charred depot]

even better they are the wrong bolts for alloys and catch maybe 1 or 2 threads

those wheels are coming off for steelies though

Phase 1 305s only had 3 bolts anyway

[storm marsh]

why she just holding it there 😭

[dull cedar]

Don't be dense, the new ones are fine

[south jackal]

Yeah with all the recalls and quality issues

If you accept that, then sure

I'd take an 80 series land cruiser over a new one any day

[dull cedar]

What, the Alabama plant fucking up engine cleaning?

This is the shit people say when they only read dumbass headlines and don't actually know what's going on

[south jackal]

That's not the only thing

How about all the Camry's and Corolla's with hybrid powertrain issues?

Or the backup camera fault?

Don't be so dense indeed. Brand loyalty is not always a good thing and often becomes harmful.

[dull cedar]

Have you been talking to mechanics that only ever see broken shit and say it's a widespread problem because they don't understand the scale of things?

[south jackal]

I don't believe this merits a response

[lone fern]

don’t ya know toyota’s the best car company? cmon bro buy a toyota they’re the best!!! they never break!!! oh my goodness!! toyota can never make a bad product ever!!! god i cannot stand people who will ride or die a brand no matter what 😭

believe it or not there are reliable vehicles that aren’t toyotas, and there are unreliable toyotas too lmao

[lone fern]

pretty certain you could say this about almost any car brand

people with issues tend to bitch and moan a lot louder than people who have had no issues

to be fair, toyota has made mostly rock solid vehicles but good god almighty there are other good cars too

[dull cedar]

I don't mean to sound like that at all lol
But I will not take idiots calling all new cars bad based on BS reasoning and no real experience

[dull cedar]

the people with issues caused by their own abuse also love to blame the car and bitch about it

[lone fern]

i mean i think it’s pretty common knowledge that most new cars have dropped quite a bit in quality compared to their predecessors and people talk a lot about honda/toyota’s drop in quality a lot more because they’ve been, for years, the manufacturers pumping out rock solid (for the most part) cars and they’ve dropped the ball a bit

[dull cedar]

There's a reason why most large taxi fleets are entirely made of up Toyota hybrids these days

I've yet to see any actual widespread drop in quality though, people seem to just imagine shit.
Not including incidents like the Alabama plant engines

[lone fern]

i think a lot of it is primarily with perceived build quality for the price as they’re typically simpler feature wise than most other vehicles, despite their higher price

[dull cedar]

Well yeah there's that, people been spoilt by impossibly cheap garbage flooding the market

[lone fern]

yeah i mean unfortuanately that’s entirely why kia/hyundai exists

[dull cedar]

I know someone that bought a Hyundai purely for the interior...

I don't trust that it'll still be running in 20 years on the same engine

[lone fern]

super early hyundai/kia was decent because they were so insanely cheap and decently reliable (early 2000’s) and now they’ve spiraled

[lone fern]

i know a few people that bought it for the 10yr 100,000 miles because “they stand behind their product so it must be good” but really its because their gdi engines are shit and they would never sell them without said warranty 😭

[dull cedar]

Oh god yeah don't get me started on warranties and how people think that

Iirc that specific 100k warranty was forced because of issues

💀

[lone fern]

yeah when people doing proper maintanance can’t keep a motor from blowing up in a regular warranty period, so they extend it to 100k, somethings fucked

mind you almost nobody with a kia/hyundai maintains anything at all then gets shafted by kia when they deny their warranty claims

[dull cedar]

Pretty easy when you're still using engine tech from the 80s tbf

[lone fern]

yup

plus they were incredibly incredibly cheap and it’s honestly probably the only reason they exist outside of korea today lol

no shot they’d develop a customer base if they tried entering any market today with their garbage

same thing with mitsubishi at least here in the U.S tbh

[dull cedar]

Mitsubishi motors is effectively dead

They don't even make cars anymore, just SUVs and trucks

[lone fern]

somehow their sales went up the last couple of years which is tragic because their cars are garbage as well. honestly they seem to be decently reliable engine wise (since most of them are still N/A lol), but the rest of the car is junk

[dull cedar]

Well SUVs and the Triton

not multiple trucks

[lone fern]

the only vehicle from them i’d have ever considered was a mirage and only because it was basically a brand new shitbox lmao

[dull cedar]

How shit is a pickup going to be when it costs as much as a Yaris hybrid 💀

Even BYD's joke of a shark 6 is twice the price

[lone fern]

could use pickups priced like that here in the u.s because good god nobody can afford these luxury grocery getters 😭

[dull cedar]

A 1.5l Turbo hybrid petrol... And it's AWD so you don't even get control

And it tries very hard to look like a ford

[lone fern]

yuck yuck

awd trucks and suvs are so stupid

give me controll

and shit have an auto setting for all i care

[dull cedar]

If it's beyond the size of a RAV4 it should be proper 4WD

[lone fern]

yup

it sucks getting stuck with awd because it doesn’t fucking engage until it’s damn near buried lol

how far we’ve fallen with crossovers

they should be like. 1st gen rav4/crv sized, maybe ford escape sized at most

now they’re stupid boring lumps with awd and “ground clearance” for the single dirt driveway they’ll drive on

[dull cedar]

Intermittent AWD is the worst kind of AWD

If it ain't always on it ain't AWD, it's a joke

[lone fern]

exactly