cars

[south jackal]

My skill too good that I get everywhere in 2WD?

[cosmic tree]

https://betterhealthforall.org/gm-will-remove-apple-carplay-and-android-auto-from-all-its-cars-not-just-evs/

[dull cedar]

No, the skill issue of not remembering to put it into 4wd like once a month or whatever

[harsh quarry]

why are they shooting themselves in the foot like this 💀

[native ermine]

cause its GM... they kinda do that

[native ermine]

wellp... looks like the aftermarket head unit scene is going to get an influx of new customers

[cosmic tree]

Ironically, I need to replace my Clarion OEM head unit in my 2009 Honda CR-V LX. Something keeps shorting it out.

[vagrant dune]

Isnt this manny khoshbins rembrandt bugatti?

[cosmic tree]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTMQNMuq9/

[manic hollow]

kinda shit makes me want to move abroad

[wise girder]

what do yall think about that byd yingyang car

[hollow pasture]

I'm picking up another crx next month

[lone fern]

hell yeah, does she run?

[hollow pasture]

Yea, its already Weber swapped and devacced

Has a lot of suspension rework done too

After franken z6 swapping my 86 crx I miss the Weber induction alot more than I thought I would

I already have the monster build, now I want something clean and dailyable

[lone fern]

oh fuck yeah

[dusk ocean]

@compact grotto sheeeesh

[compact grotto]

damn, will watch

[maiden dove]

Anyone else have mental illnesses resulting in multiple of the same cars with different engine swaps and not matching paint on panels?

(i swear i do actually fix things... body shops just let me down constantly)

[gentle thicket]

Not sure about the random colors, but if I had the cash, I'm sure I'd have half a dozen or more del Sols.

[maiden dove]

Eh. The middle car was hit by a deer. The black car had a lot of rust. The furthest car was a bare shell when I got it.. but usdm 93 hardtops are stupid rare so I saved it from being cut up and have cobbled it together with other part outs

Middle one WAS one color till then

[dull cedar]

I prefer the multiple different cars with the same engine

what engines do they have?

[maiden dove]

2gr-fe with 12.5:1 pistons in it and a custom intake ~340whp. a 1AR with balance shafts deleted. not dynoed yet. the hardtop is getting a different 2gr with a VW DSG

[dull cedar]

good, no K swaps

[maiden dove]

avid no K

[dull cedar]

I've half convinced an american friend to let me put a 2GR in the 370Z they want to buy

[maiden dove]

do it

lol

[dull cedar]

I've got a celica I'm putting the beams 3S into slowly

and I drive a 2zz corolla wagon

[dull cedar]

this would be with the sleeves that make it ~3.7 litres and of course high comp pistons

[maiden dove]

She’s fun

[dull cedar]

is that a GR86 steering wheel?

[maiden dove]

Yes

[dull cedar]

it just fits right on?

[maiden dove]

Yup. Just enough wires in the clock spring to make the audio controls and cruise control work too. And airbag. No backlights though

[dull cedar]

oh cool

[maiden dove]

I drove this thing 12 hours to new York. So it has to be comfortable for me too. 🤣 it’s done tail of the dragon, Myrtle beach, New York. The Colorado trip got canceled this year though

ive got a new 2gr going together for this guy. BC rods, FXE pistons, flowed heads, and cams.. hoping to get close to 400 wheel. we'll see how that pans out.

the 1ar is getting a turbo. but thats currently with the wizard of the mr2 v6/AR swaps for tune development

[south jackal]

I had a 72 Celica I fully rebuilt. It had an 18RC when we first bought it. Fully rebuilt that tank of an engine. Put a 5 speed in since it came with a 3 speed auto.

[maiden dove]

those first gen celicas are sexy

[south jackal]

100% agree! And extremely light.

The bodies decayed extremely easy though

[maiden dove]

This is my most recent purchase for $300. I just want a liftback 1st gen celica now

[south jackal]

Beauty

[gentle thicket]

Who owed you a few thousand bucks to sell that to you for $300? lol

[maiden dove]

it was listed as having a junk title so couldnt be titled. but i applied for a bonded title and got one so... it never actually got put in for the junk title.

it hasnt been driving in 20 years

it runs with ether. but i need to toss a new fuel pump in it and clean the tank out.. interiors trashed too. and when its dry the paints pretty rough

[paper sandal]

Who tf would import a US spec Honda civic?

Also it's Manuel for some reason

[woven dove]

Did spark plugs in my pickup this morning, a coolant loop flush and a transmission fluid flush. Going to do a brake flush, new rotors and pads, and a transfer case and difs flush tonight.

16 spark plugs for a v8 is still dumb though.

[rapid forge]

Hey yall so I've always wanted to get into cars but I was never close with friends who were into it and my family wasnt either any advice on how to get started

[harsh quarry]

like you mean working on stuff yourself? or just like learning about cars in general?

[pure pond]

youtube is your friend. there is enough info for doing anything with a car

[rapid forge]

learning to begin with and then get to work

any specific channel recommendations

[harsh quarry]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLI7lqC4ZBnIlL4-jIq9wesjXv0J5FJKgY

it's easier to understand modern stuff when you understand the very basics ^

[pure pond]

chrisfix does also make some deep dive info for alot

[harsh quarry]

also if you've never seen it, watch some episodes of the old Top Gear show

[pure pond]

its alive, runs like shit but hey it runs

[charred depot]

Running better than my British Lada (Triumph Dolomite)

my main car has just failed its MOT on some nonsense as well

[wispy cloak]

Average mopar design

[woven dove]

It’s for emissions but it’s still idiotic

Took me two hours to do all sixteen plugs and also replace coil packs

[dull cedar]

they'll do anything except replace the shitty old pushrod engine with something designed to be efficient

[wispy cloak]

To be fair ford did the dual plug design first but it was just on the 2.3/2.5 limas

[woven dove]

I don’t know, I kinda like the v8

[dull cedar]

Where did I mention it not being a V8?

[woven dove]

And I got 25mpg average in my 1,100 mile trip.

[wispy cloak]

Mopar just refuses to redesign anything in a timely fashion

[woven dove]

Only 14 in the city but highway 25 mpg was great

[dull cedar]

What year is this pickup?

[wispy cloak]

I hate replacing hemi exhaust manifolds

[woven dove]

2020 ram classic

[woven dove]

I’ve got a leaky one on the passenger side I need to fix

[dull cedar]

Yikes

[woven dove]

What?

I wasn’t allowed to take my work rig (2025 ram 2500)

[dull cedar]

It's sooo far behind in tech

[woven dove]

I don’t care about the tech. I care about something that can get me to work, can take a beating and come back for more, whether there’s two feet of snow on the road or it’s going up a muddy logging road

[dull cedar]

I don't think you understand what I mean

[woven dove]

You are on about the engine. I know

I considered buying a 25’ 1500 with their new inline six but decided against it

[woven dove]

Or are you on about something else besides the powertrain?

[wispy cloak]

That's the point of the "classic" line

[woven dove]

It’s just a continuation of the 4th gen body style with a few of the 5th gen upgrades. I had a 2010 before I bought this, so I was already familiar with the 4th gen body

And the engine. Though I do like having an 8spd now be the 5spd my 2010 had. Even if it had a better rear dif gearing than my current one does

[wispy cloak]

Mopar finally discovered that they shouldn't be making transmissions

[woven dove]

Yeah lol. Though the 8spd my current 1500 has is dumb. To do a fluid change you have to replace the whole pan since the filter is integrated

I’m still debating regearing my front and rear dif to 3.92 since I had that on my 2010 and liked the torque compared to the 3.21 I have now

[dull cedar]

Just the engine.
It's 22 years old and was about 22 years behind when it released

[woven dove]

Eh. I like it. I’m familiar with it. Only reason I didn’t get the 25 with the inline six is I’m not familiar with it or how to fix it if needed

There’s a reason all the wildland engines in the area have 6.4L hemis

[dull cedar]

Not surprising that you'd like it.... the people that don't like it don't buy stellantis vehicles

[woven dove]

This is the only non hemi type 6 in the area I work. If they can take the beating we put our rigs through it’s good enough for me

There was briefly a ford type 6 on the forest here, but it went through two engines in two years

[wispy cloak]

Yeah that's the only zf8 inconvenience

[woven dove]

I’m also debating if I buy either the hemi return 1500 when thst comes out, or if I buy a 2500 instead.

I don’t normally keep a vehicle for more than six or seven years.

Kind of tempted by the 2500 rebel and power wagon trims

[misty mantle]

Sounds about right depending on the gen of Ford it was

[misty mantle]

My Ford gives me enough electrical gremlins as it is

[dull cedar]

They don't buy fords either

[misty mantle]

Everything is going to have issues, you ain’t getting away from that.

Don’t matter if it’s brand new or 40 years old

I don’t doubt that Stellantis has made some good engines, but half the vehicles they’re mounted in are shit

[dull cedar]

The American vehicle owner mindset

[dull cedar]

Do doubt it, they haven't made any good engines

[misty mantle]

The Pentastar has go die in a hole, that thing sucks through and through

[misty mantle]

Actually, anything like pre 1980

[dull cedar]

they may have some mediocre engines but definitely no good ones

[misty mantle]

Before Dodge got tossed around

[lone fern]

how tf is the pentastar still around 😭

it’s death is overdue

[lone fern]

he’s not wrong though

[misty mantle]

I think as long as the Wrangler keeps selling, it’ll be around

[lone fern]

the number of oil coolers i’ve replaced for friends and families on that DAMN engine gahhh 😭

[woven dove]

Good engines? Not really. Semi reliable and competitive for the market for a medium to heavy duty pickup? Yeah.

[lone fern]

in other words my lml needs a crank (typical lmao) 🫠

looking for shortblock options but they’re expensive as hell

[misty mantle]

My GFs LB7 needs a TCM and injectors

[lone fern]

340k miles of pure hell

[misty mantle]

Among other things that come from it having over 300k and being a farm truck

[lone fern]

ah yeah you’ll have that

[woven dove]

I think I’m going to sell my current pickup before it hits 300k miles which is a bit sad, but I do want a fifth gen Ram

[lone fern]

suprised they made it 300k+, is it it’s first set?

[woven dove]

I like my take home rig

[misty mantle]

I think so

[lone fern]

i can’t bring myself to buy a ram

[misty mantle]

And it’s still going

She daily’s that truck

[lone fern]

terrible experiences w the rams at the landscaping place i used to work at

[woven dove]

Remember you saying that.

I’ve yet to kill one, so I’m gonna stick with them lol.

And I’m not the nicest with my vehicles

[lone fern]

yeah i have terrible luck in general i’ve not found a car that survives me lmao

work truck keeps on chugging along but it’s dogshit lol

[woven dove]

I’m more impressed my last one still ran after getting tboned and rolling

Kinda sold me on keeping with them

[lone fern]

hell yeah

[woven dove]

I mean this one still ran after having this happen to it. Good old government vehicles getting abused. Not my picture but I was present for this shit show

[misty mantle]

dumbass behind the wheel?

[woven dove]

Culvert kinda just. Collapsed

[lone fern]

my 2015 chevy work truck needs to blow up i’m sick of the 4.3, it can’t tow what i gotta tow, it’s nearing 300k miles, and i’m the only person left with a rwd truck, (really need 4x4, end up stuck in the mud and snow 24/7)

[lone fern]

ah damnn

[woven dove]

The culvert under the road collapsed when we pulled to the side to let a log truck pass

And down we went

[misty mantle]

Rip

[woven dove]

Rig was fine besides the brush guard getting bent up lol

[lone fern]

i’d kill for a nice knapheid box like that i also despise my silly toolboxes that sit inside the bed

[woven dove]

That was one of our patrol rigs on the Coleville

Want to say pt37?

[lone fern]

nicee

[woven dove]

There’s a video somewhere of when it got used to pull a stuck tractor trailer out of a ditch

It was NOT happy but it did it

[misty mantle]

It a 3/4 or 1-ton?

[lone fern]

🤣🤣

[woven dove]

1 ton

It was still alive and well when I left my employment on the Coleville national forest and they’d had it for six years

[misty mantle]

It’s probably still being abused now

[woven dove]

Most likely.

[lone fern]

i love abusing work trucks

[misty mantle]

We overloaded the F-150 that my dads work provided him more than a few times

[south jackal]

You're not getting stuck often enough then. If you get stuck enough on company time they might consider the loss of time now seriously?

[south jackal]

I wish the work trim was not widely available for regular consumers to buy. But no, fleet only.

[lone fern]

i get stuck all the time, company is phasing out 2wd trucks because we get a shitload of snow and too many people would put the trucks into the ditch or something dumb, i’m just stuck with the shitty truck till it either blows up or they find a new guy to give it to lmaoo

[south jackal]

Drive it like you stole it then. Unfortunately those 4.3 are durable and take a lot to kill

[fresh island]

Thinking of buying a daily Skoda Octaviva VRS 2015-2017

Good idea or no

[harsh quarry]

that's the one on the VW MQB platform?

[dull cedar]

It's basically a passat

[dull cedar]

Yes

[brittle totem]

Nah its more like Golf Superb is the Skoda version of the Passat

[brittle totem]

Basically Golf GTI but cheaper.

So Golf but comes as sedan and wagon instead of hatchback.

[dull cedar]

Sorry hard to tell the size from wiki photos

[harsh quarry]

why not get a base Golf at that point

(totally not biased loll)

[fresh island]

Yeah and no

[lone fern]

do i need another 1,000$ shitbox lol

[misty mantle]

Yes.
Can never have enough shitboxes

[hollow pasture]

Yea that'll do it

[native ermine]

😬

[lone fern]

see i currently have 9 at the moment so i gotta round it up to 10 lol

[misty mantle]

Holy shit, it killed a wrist pin

[hollow pasture]

Well

[pure pond]

you have no choice then

[hollow pasture]

The wrist pin killed it

[misty mantle]

how

[hollow pasture]

I don't think Honda expected people to put 100hp through the HF block

[misty mantle]

The wrist pin is the last part I would expect to fail

[hollow pasture]

Dude look at what holds the wrist pin to the piston

And tell me that's not what failed

[misty mantle]

Is there even a clip?

[hollow pasture]

Press fit

[misty mantle]

Bruh

[hollow pasture]

Don't bruh me bruh Hondas engineers from fuckin 40 years ago

[pure pond]

that connecting rod is also really tiny

[misty mantle]

Bad design on hondas part, the bruh was toward the engineers

[hollow pasture]

They just didn't expect people to take the HF and put stuff on it

Stock this engine was only making like 56hp

I put a d15a1 head and a Weber on it and bumped it to around 110

This is replacing it

[gentle thicket]

so that's how they slam?

[hollow pasture]

When they are 40yo with 300k+ miles yea

She saw every bit of 6300 rpm at least daily for over a year

I was not nice to this motor lol

[lone fern]

my name is on it

it’s my buddies ex daily lol

still a good daily but it burns oil like a mothafucker (certified 1zz moment)

also mysteriously keeps cracking the spark plug on cylinder one, and only cylinder one

the little electrode breaks and moves up and down in the plug ceramic itself 😅

[wispy cloak]

very very common design

[misty mantle]

Very stupid design

If they had added wrist pin retainer clips then it wouldnt be a issue

[wispy cloak]

how 😭

[paper sandal]

https://youtube.com/shorts/u3tcfFeyiZw?si=e6X2s1q99FUb91MO

Automatic transmissions are just black magic to me

[cosmic tree]

https://youtube.com/shorts/oiM2RVNlJGg?si=tTmYicOY6PN9hSrj

[cosmic tree]

They're not even accidents, the roads here in greater OKC are just crap. The G-sensor sensitivity is set to LOW.

The roadwork quality here for the past two decades have been sub-par. Not to mention the effort to properly repair or repave everything is agonizingly slow.
One part of roadway was so bad, I hit a pothole one night during a light rain in 2019, it popped one of my tires slightly out of its rim and caused a flat. The city did have a scheduled plann to repave & widen that entire section in 2022/2024, but they ended up doing the former ahead of schedule in 2020.

[pure pond]

some people should not be on the road

[gentle thicket]

Is the crossing defective or something? How was it even let into the tracks area if the other side was already shut?

[pure pond]

they always shut the incoming side not defective

[gentle thicket]

Then yeah I guess the driver is just terribly defective because that was most certainly a first gear situation not revers.

[dull cedar]

That's not what happened...

They couldn't go or turn or whatever (hard to tell) because of the car on the other side

So they stupidly reversed back over the tracks

[nova sphinx]

well he is no more

[civic spoke]

https://fixupx.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1984297245756289360

NSF - NASASpaceflight.com (@NASASpaceflight)

Tesla: Hey, Starbase, want some Cybertrucks?
︀︀
︀︀Starbase: Sure.
︀︀
︀︀Tesla: How many?
︀︀
︀︀Starbase: Yes.
︀︀
︀︀www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUNy7jRof_c

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[prisma frost]

Finally the full video. I thought the truck got stuck somehow

[open terrace]

I think imma do these seats for the Miata

[native ermine]

oof i keep seeing more of these on the road and i hate it

[forest lintel]

Way too busy imo, reminds me of drawings by 3 year olds

[open terrace]

I kinda fuck with it though, reminds me of like old bench seat covers but a modern version

[forest lintel]

I guess it does a bit, just way more colorful

[civic spoke]

https://youtu.be/U2lmCpaQfYc

[forest lintel]

That's a very expensive wrong turn...

[cosmic tree]

https://youtube.com/shorts/zUArPT5cJAY?si=gfDhnEkLpMVVgUU_

[past copper]

What 280,000 miles look like on a factory rotor and 150,000 miles on a pad, the other side looks completely fine but this side is horrendous.

[autumn umbra]

How tf did they even stop with that 😭

[maiden dove]

judging on the minimal shinny spot.. they didnt. lololol

[native ermine]

i mean... i've had up until recently a shot brake booster and rutsed out brake lines so rusty that once i put in the new bootser it blew through them

so like shit happens

[languid spear]

Is this normal if i start a lot of power hungry stuf on the car (Audi a4 b7 2.0tdi)

[civic spoke]

No idea. Doesn't raise any direct red flags for me.
Having issues with the 12V?

[languid spear]

Lamps sometimes flikers when u go down to ide so just checking

Most notisebole on the low beams

It dose charge 14.00v when berly enything is on so i asume its fine

[dull cedar]

Are they the factory bulbs?

[languid spear]

Yup

Wel one is the other is brand new 6 months back

[pure pond]

the only thing i can think of is are the battery terminals loose or corroded

14 charging is good

[languid spear]

okay nothing to worry about then beckuse i had all lights on and the fan on full speed and all eltrec heting on

[dull cedar]

If you've got some high power amps the stock alternator will struggle at idle

[devout pike]

Which brand of trucks are the worst and which are the best in terms of reliability?

[past copper]

This was the front left brake, the right front looked completely normal with plenty of life left on both pads. While braking it felt like the rotor was warped, whoever put those pads on didn't install the screechers so if my dad would have continued driving it like that he would have kissed that piston goodbye.

[dusk ocean]

ROFL omg @gray echo

damn another e34 love to see it

[worldly oasis]

Icarsoft scanner?

[prisma hornet]

thats funny i just did my pads and rotors and my rear pads and rotors were factory too 110k miles

also did the fronts but they weren't nearly as bad

[paper sandal]

Is this a fiat ducato?

[stoic ledge]

It's the Fiat Ducato/Peugeot Boxer/Citroen Jumper/Opel/Vauxhall Movano/Toyota ProAce Max.... in the US it's also the RAM ProMaster and I think Iveco also introduced a version called the eSuperJolly

But in short: yes

[paper sandal]

So you could just steal all the badges from other ones and make everything

[stoic ledge]

You could make it an everything and nobody would notice

[languid spear]

Yup my laptop whas dead at the moment

[worldly oasis]

I got one too

[pure pond]

vw is also doing it now 😢 with the new transporter thats just a ford

[languid spear]

i use vcds otherwise tho

[edgy bough]

Got this video on my feed, it's a charging station 15 minute drive away.

And the main thing people in the comments were complaining about is the "old" tech in the cars and that Tesla is the future.

Should I tell them that the most sold car in Norway is a Tesla?

[harsh quarry]

honestly fuck Tesla after the whole Elon fiasco

there are so many other EVs I'd sooner choose (if I was in the market for one now)

[harsh quarry]

I wonder if the sales tanked in Norway like they did everywhere else after the Elon situation?

[edgy bough]

Nope

[harsh quarry]

damn

[edgy bough]

Still #1 car

[harsh quarry]

what are the reasons for such high EV adoption rates compared to other countries?

[edgy bough]

Checking september registrations

[edgy bough]

No sales tax on ev's under $50k

50% cheaper tolls, cheaper insurance and road tax. And a vast network of chargers. Is a few of the reasons

And fuel is around 8$ a gallon

[harsh quarry]

yeah I just looked it up and apparently they've been consistently rewarding EV ownership for a while now

[edgy bough]

I save around 70% each month of fuel compared to a diesel of gasoline car.

Since January I've spent around 30$ in electricity for my car "I charge at work mostly"

[harsh quarry]

it helps that Norway is a relatively rich country I guess

[edgy bough]

The cars are cheap anyways.

A brand new ev for under 20k

[harsh quarry]

even a Model Y is not cheap though

[edgy bough]

Around 45k

For base model of course

[harsh quarry]

the cheapest EV option here is the Fiat 500e, but they only sell the equivalent of the long range EU model

but for the same price you could have a much more practical hatchback

so nobody buys the 500e here

people still buy the Model Y here, but almost the same amount are buying the Ioniq, Chevrolet Equinox EV, or Kona EV

[edgy bough]

All EV's

[harsh quarry]

damn they don't sell most of those over here in Canada

[charred depot]

ive killed a set of discs and pads in 5000 miles as well as my front left tyre : |

[edgy bough]

Range is one of the reasons why these cars are cheap

And these are for new cars. The used marked is full of great deals from 3k for a 2016 leaf to 18k for a 2018 model s.

Found a 2013 model s with a 2018 battery and free supercharging for 11k

[harsh quarry]

3k what currency is this now?

[edgy bough]

USD

[harsh quarry]

ok because 3k CAD literally gets you a beater 2009 Civic with 200k km

[edgy bough]

I find multiple cars under 500 USD. That is "drivable"

But with many defects

[harsh quarry]

the average car on the road here is apparently nearly 11 years old now

so 2009 is honestly not too bad

[civic spoke]

Average age of vehicles in Sweden. Motorcycle, normal cars, heavy trucks, light trucks, and busses.

Motorcycles (Yellow) have gone through the roof since mid-2000's. So the average age of those are real old.

And normal cars (Blue) are also increasing, but more so in the last 10 years.

[edgy bough]

I assume alot if those are mopeds as well that 16yo uses.

And maybe even moped cars are under that statistics

Maybe EPA aswell?

[civic spoke]

Not sure about that, actually. EPA's recently had rules changes so that they need to be inspected for roadworthyness. So many are off the road because of it.

[edgy bough]

Not sure about EPA since we don't have that in Norway. But the moped cars are registered as motorcycles/mopeds.

[edgy bough]

They got upped to 45kmh right?

[civic spoke]

Nor sure how old the moped cars are on average, tbh

[civic spoke]

There's still in talks about that. To change EPA's to a B1 license or something.

[glacial brook]

bomboclat

[edgy bough]

Wait, EPA is tractor right? I remember something about EPA tractors.

[civic spoke]

Yeah. A-Tractor.

As they are called here. But there are still modern cars converted to one so that their kids can get to/from school and stuff like that.

[edgy bough]

It's funny that this car is limited to 30kmh.

[edgy bough]

This is a common thing for 16-18 kids to have outside of the cities.

[civic spoke]

Yupp.

What you often see though are slammed Volvo's with literally zero suspension travel.

Stuff like this.

[edgy bough]

Burn it.

Even tho my farts travel faster than that thing it does not deserve to be on the road.

Same with these cars.
They have nothing to do on the road.

[cosmic tree]

https://youtube.com/shorts/88Lad2SwUo8?si=7fJ3u1pzNndx8wOE

[forest lintel]

That's a beater? I think many around here would call that a pretty good next car...

[harsh quarry]

well compared to a 2016 Leaf...

I'd still rather take the Civic but hopefully you get my point

[lone fern]

went looking for clean obs parts at the junkyard (found a nice rust free burban) and this was what one of them looked like

thing must have been hit by a damn train or smthn

[past copper]

my 92 Burban my parents sold to my uncle a decade ago is still alive, not to sure about well, but with a rotted exhaust no-one dares to cross my grandma when she drives it.

[misty mantle]

I fucking hate EGR and ECCIV systems rn.
Getting code 32 (EGR sensor fault) on the bronco, everything seems to be checking out ok and I've replaced almost every damn part of that fucking EGR system except the vacuum lines, which seem to be holding fine
Cant delete it because Cali and fuel milage
I hate this fuckass state

[eager crow]

Hey guys. I have a 2005 jeep liberty sport. The engine is the 3.7L v6 if that matters for this. I’m looking for some new shocks. My suspensions starting to go. I don’t think it’s ever been replaced. It has 98k km on it. I don’t need a damn 10” lift kit or anything. Just new parts. I’m in Canada, and I’ve already looked at rock auto. But it ships from the us so shipping is 500+. I’ve checked the ct website and a few other places. I just don’t know exactly what I’m looking for if I need or a whole kit or what. Thanks.

[misty mantle]

If it's just shocks you're looking for, check your local Napa

If they dont have them in the back, they can usually have them the next day

@eager crow ^

[south jackal]

I doubt it

[snow otter]

That moment when your rental XC40 gets upgraded for a brand new toyota prada. And when i say brand new, i mean we had to help take all the plastic covers off the seats and shit kinda new

[edgy bough]

They are only limited to 30kmh but 15-18 year olds drive them.

[brittle totem]

Meanwhile in Sweden everyone keeps buying overpriced and outdated XC60 🥀

[brittle totem]

Norway is pretty much the only country where Tesla sales didn't tank.

[brittle totem]

Here Fiat 500e somehow cost around the same as Model 3 RWD.

[brittle totem]

This rich kids are now converting Model 3 to EPA tractors now 😭

[civic spoke]

Bruh

The real rich kids convert trucks, btw

[harsh quarry]

I think I've maybe only seen a couple of new Land Cruisers on the roads so far

[civic spoke]

18 km on the clock, damn.

[harsh quarry]

It ends up being nearly 40k CAD (after government rebates) if you don't want the base trim. For around that price you could buy a Honda HRV with AWD, Corolla Cross Hybrid, etc

[brittle totem]

Yeah no government rebates here anymore unless you are company car driver but its basically just company that buys/lease new cars anyways.

[brittle totem]

Yeah that's delivery miliage so brand new.

[forest lintel]

One man's outdated is another's proven design

[brittle totem]

Probably still cheaper then brand new moped car 🥀

[civic spoke]

Don't change what isn't broken?

[brittle totem]

I guess that reason just older people who have Volvo as company cars their whole working career. And just doen't bother looking what else you could get for same amount of money.

[harsh quarry]

real

it's like how the CX-5 is selling well over here (2025) despite being on the same platform since 2017

[snow otter]

Yeah we literally had to still take off the protective covers on the inside

Heck the screen protector thingy is still on the display 😂

[harsh quarry]

shouldn't they have taken that off for you lol

[edgy bough]

People underestimate the price of a truck

[dusk ocean]

ROFL @compact grotto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66sojxNpCww

Watch at 13mins

"What if it flies through the window of an orphanage?"

[civic spoke]

The company that owns that has some of the fanciest trucks in Sweden.

[woven dove]

There’s about two dozen of them where I live

[compact grotto]

Dude I was watching this with subtitles and no sound

thought it was kinda lame but at the end i'm cackling

that was f'ing hilarious

[dusk ocean]

Dude it was funny throughout honestly

he reminds me of a guy I know

@compact grotto at the end with Rodney Bearing... I was losing it

I was on a call working an issue and I heard this shit in the background lol

[halcyon grotto]

but are they being registered to people or companies

because tesla does do some dodgy numbers stuff sometimes

[harsh quarry]

I'd be willing to bet people

the car market over there is unlike anywhere else

[pearl plover]

Why's the SRS light on?

[modest oyster]

😃 ☝️

[lone fern]

what does a fella need to do to hu. uuiii u

wtf

phone tweaking

what does a fella need to do to buy a new set of steelies for a modern car 😭

can’t find shit that will fitt raghh

[past copper]

the steelie for my spare looked like this..... so I got a normal aluminum one and stuck it in the undercarriage to corrode even more slowly, why buy another piece of steel to watch one rock chip and 20 years of salt turn into this.

[harsh quarry]

just look up your bolt pattern? what car is this for?

[stoic ledge]

Asking the real questions here

[lone fern]

yeah i did lol very few people make a 17in 5x115 wheel, however i did find one lol

more just frusturated i can’t find a damn steel wheel lol

[lone fern]

thank you thank you i love my broken phone screen

[stoic ledge]

Sounds like an Insignia bolt pattern... You could get them in Europe with steelies

16" greatness

Or these 17" 'design' wheels .. they're like 5 spoke steelies with hubcaps to look like alloys

[lone fern]

it is an insignia lol

badges buick but yeah

yall got 16’s over there? damn

[stoic ledge]

Yeah I figured it was for the Regal

I think for like the base diesel

[lone fern]

anyways i ordered these and i’m picking up a set of lightly used studded snow tires tomorrow off marketplace

[lone fern]

i see

i fw 16’s the tires are so cheap

[stoic ledge]

Looks like 1.5T only, but only on the base model which wasn't even available in 🇳🇱

Larger engines have 17" minimum (probably due to larger brakes)

[lone fern]

yeah i was gonna say that on the ones we have over here ya have to have 17” minimum else the calipers won’t clear the wheel

[snow basin]

Anyone drive a car recently?

[misty mantle]

Had one of the electric chargers drive past me, the “engine” speaker sounds like a wet fart

[pearl plover]

Fixing a deer strike

The core support was bent all the wah back to the distributor cap but now it has a new hood that even latches and opens

[lone fern]

looks like mine (fixed w insurance money and sold)

[pearl plover]

My insurance doesn't pay because it was a deer and not another driver

Im fixing it with junk yard parts

So really cheap

[gentle thicket]

no more reagal or that's different car?

[harsh quarry]

they do exist tho
https://www.thewheelshop.ca/collections/5x115-wheels?wheel_bolt_pattern/5x115mm-(5x4.53")/wheel_tire_diameter/17

[lone fern]

no now i have a newer regal that was my 2015 that i had for under a month, now i have my 18

[gentle thicket]

o

[lone fern]

i did end up finding some for some reason google was not being my friend when i was searching lmao

[harsh quarry]

for my Golf I had a little bit of trouble finding used wheels in the size I needed for winter, but in the end I found alloys for cheaper than steel wheels

(sorry for bad crop lol, this was a very shitty picture)

[lone fern]

snow tires acquired

basically brand new, the guys daughter used them for a month last year then got married and moved to arizona where there’s no snow and left these behind lol

150$

[forest lintel]

Damn that's a steal for new studded. I'm envious, I just paid close to 700€ for mine

[stoic ledge]

I wound't dare putting tires directly on my upholstery

[lone fern]

ended up putting a towel underneath them but tbh they need a good cleaning anyways, i’m looking for a good set of seat covers though lol

[lone fern]

yeah they were originally posted for 200$ and I came in at 150 and got them, super surprised he was willing to drop the price lol

[stoic ledge]

Just went to the mechanics to get a TPMS valve replaced, I get home... and find the mechanics phone on my rear wiper

I'm amazed I didn't loose it on the drive

[harsh quarry]

why were they even putting their phone there to begin with lmao

[stoic ledge]

Apparently he took a picture of my license plate to put in their computer .. and then he did something and put his phone there

Yeah idk

[native ermine]

free phone

[torn bridge]

what is the best first car my brother would buy

and how he can't get scammed

[halcyon grotto]

uhhh a volvo estate

[harsh quarry]

Honda Civic, Toyota Corolla, Mazda 3, VW Golf, etc

[edgy bough]

https://supercarblondie.com/oslo-buys-chinese-yutong-electric-buses-security-issue/

I can't be the only one that actually sees no issue here.

The only reason why it's a "concern" is because it's china.

[pure pond]

thats stupid so you buy 300 of them and then test them

[halcyon grotto]

sounds like typical council oversight tbh

[halcyon grotto]

depends how important you view a bus to be ig

[edgy bough]

They took 2 different brands of busses under the guise of testing them. In reality they tore them down.

One if them were a Dutch brand I believe.

They drove them into a cave that's blocked from signal and did some tests in there

It's not an issue with Chinese cars, but when it's busses it's a massive issue apparently.

Or what about Tesla and their cars, all if them actually have a remote control feature. Compared to these busses that can only be shut down. And not controlled while driving

[vocal mural]

VDL Berkhof?

[pure pond]

might be ebusco they are focused on electric

[edgy bough]

No idea. They don't mention the 2nd brand

[edgy bough]

He now made a video from the charging station 5 minutes away from me.

Also, its no longer a shell station. Its now renamed to ST1

[prisma frost]

Thank god you didn’t trigger the rear wiper

[gentle thicket]

adding some chargers I get but removing the primary fuel powering transportation for the next decade at least - that I don't.

[stoic ledge]

Nah I've returned it, what am I going to do with his phone 😛

[stoic ledge]

Yeah lol, also could've damaged my car then

[edgy bough]

28% of all cars on the road is EV's.
98% of all new cars registered are EV's.
I think it's not going to be a issue.

[harsh quarry]

dude this is Norway, completely different world compared to North America

[gentle thicket]

Ahh yeah there are some weird outliers.

[edgy bough]

I wouldn't say it's weird

[harsh quarry]

I live in part of Canada with the most EVs, and even for me it's kind of weird to think about the difference in the culture around cars here

the ICE is not going anywhere any time soon over here

[edgy bough]

I knew we were high up, but JESUS

[harsh quarry]

the US doesn't have the electric infrastructure, and where I live in Canada people are too broke for new EVs despite having the infrastructure for it

(at least if you live somewhere where you can charge at home, because barely any workplaces have chargers)

[gentle thicket]

I find it funny how low China is considering how it is entirely impossible to build an EV without China.

[harsh quarry]

honestly I think these AI numbers are probably outdated because China has been having an EV boom recently

[edgy bough]

2024 numbers

[harsh quarry]

idk man I don't trust AI to find stuff

[edgy bough]

I am unsure about the other countries, but the Norway statistics are pretty close if not accurate

[gentle thicket]

Honestly - I think we'd be fine if people bought the right EVs. There's no reason for > 100 mile range. EVs should be for going to work, the store, local stuff. Basically, cheap EVs to get around the city and then you have one ICE vehicle for the family to share for when you need to go any further than the city car can get you.

[harsh quarry]

yeah people think they need way more range than they actually do

[edgy bough]

Oh i can only drive 200km, oh no what should i do!!!
You stop and charge for 20-45 minutes while grabbing a bite to eat or use the toilet.

[harsh quarry]

It's not uncommon at all to want to drive 400km though, for example Montreal to Ottawa is 200km each way

[edgy bough]

Also most cars are between 300-600km range now.

Even up to 800km

[harsh quarry]

yeah some EVs can get crazy range, I'm just saying how people are used to driving way further in north America for everything

[harsh quarry]

like 100miles is not even enough to do Montreal/Ottawa I just realized

[gentle thicket]

That's not a normal everyday drive for each person in a family to do separately.

Normal is less than 20 miles each way.

[edgy bough]

Mercedes has a model with WLTP of 792km (492miles)

[harsh quarry]

it's not a normal everyday drive, no, but it's very common for people to do weekend trips to see family and whatnot

[gentle thicket]

Exactly why I said every family should still have one ICE car.

[edgy bough]

Actually not too bad of a price for that Mercedes, starts at $50k

[harsh quarry]

what model is this?

[gentle thicket]

Have a 6 person SUV as a family car and then everyone has their little 90s Civics with 100 mile batteries.

[edgy bough]

https://www.mercedes-benz.ca/en/future-vehicles/2026-mercedes-benz-cla-sedan

[gentle thicket]

Plus - small cars with small batteries = 20 to 80 percent in like 5 mins probably.

[edgy bough]

Many of the large battery models can charge with 200kw+

All newer models charge with 100+

There are some outliers, and those are the budget cars that are under 25k usd

Some if those only charge with 50-80kw.

Altho, those are theoretical maxes.

Different conditions and amount of used chargers impact the real speed you get

[stoic ledge]

kWh is not a charging rate

[edgy bough]

🖕 😠 🖕

[prisma frost]

Im surprised you didn’t see it in the first place

[stoic ledge]

I approached the car from the front, so I couldn't see the back

And while driving it was kinda obscured by the headrest

[civic spoke]

My i3 maxes out at like 50 kW.

But not having the fastest charging isn't a real issue for your daily life.
Have had my car for like 5 and a half months now, and have only fast charged it twice.

Once because I wanted to try it out.

Second time I had to do it to drive some meds to my niece, and the battery was at like 10% right as I were about to plug it in at home.

Didn't actually lose any time from charging either, since I didn't miss the ferry.

So would have arrived at the same time regardless

[edgy bough]

That is the most exact same reason the 3 times I've charged at a station.

I've had the car since the end of January.

[civic spoke]

I have had mine since the end of May.

[harsh quarry]

that's crazy because the cheapest new car over here is around 25k (CAD, not USD)

[civic spoke]

Driven 7,500 km's and haven't even spent €200 on charging it up.

[harsh quarry]

just for reference, 15 years ago the cheapest new car was 10k

[edgy bough]

I'm at 8500km so far. Roughly €0.004 per km.

Around 35€

[civic spoke]

Absolutely ruined.

[edgy bough]

That includes charging at home.

And stations

[civic spoke]

Charging at home is 1.5 SEK/kWh. Not the cheapest, but far from bad.

[edgy bough]

And work, but that don't count 😄

At home I charge at 0.5 nok per kwh

That means for a full charge if my 35kwh battery it's around 17kr? Ish.
So €1.2 for 170km range.

A full tank of diesel is easily more than 50€

💡 For Comparison
To put this in perspective with your previous calculation (which was likely for an EV):

• Diesel car (this example): $0.100 USD per km (approx. 10 cents per km)
• Your calculation (EV?): $0.0046 USD per km (approx. 0.5 cents per km)

So I'm my case it's alot cheaper to have an ev that a diesel car

[civic spoke]

It's basically around €6 for a full charge from dead for me.

During mild weather then I can get almost 300 km's.

[leaden solar]

Well if you only are in the city EV's will always win against any diesel or gas fuel car but if you go outside the city many times and far away then it falls apart quick

[edgy bough]

If you are in a country that does not have an ev grid yea

[pure pond]

most gas stations here have chargers also

[lone fern]

most near me dont unfortunately

my local one only has 2 pumps 💔

[edgy bough]

All ours have chargers,

Based on the most recent figures from November 2025, there are a total of 31,945 publicly available charging points in Norway.
These are divided into two main types:

• Fast and Ultra-Fast Chargers (DC Charging):
  • These are the fastest chargers you find along the major roads.
  • Total: 10,990 charging points
    • Fast Chargers (51-150 kW): 4,284
    • Ultra-Fast Chargers (Over 151 kW): 6,706
• Normal Chargers (AC Charging):
  • These are the most common chargers found in public parking areas, at shopping centers, and hotels (up to 22 kW).
  • Total: 20,955 charging points

[vocal acorn]

It's about the equivalent of $35 for a full charge on a model 3 long range in the UK 😅

£31-35

€36-41

[leaden solar]

Well in lithuania it sucks ass out of the city so yeah

[halcyon grotto]

at a motorway service station though right?

ridiculous what they'll charge

[edgy bough]

Here all public charges is 0.5€ per kw

[misty mantle]

All my local ones have 2-4, only exception is the local casino station. That place is bordering on a truck stop

[stable crane]

Got a new car, I'll miss my 2018 sti but I've been loving this absolute little monster of a car

[gentle thicket]

The one thing I hate about the Elantra N is the lack of the fancy cruise control. I mean if I'm gonna have two pedals in a modern car then it needs to have smart cruise.

[brittle totem]

Has been called ST1 in Sweden for ages already.

[brittle totem]

But its Mercedes to expect to add like 15k in options to get good spec.

[brittle totem]

Yeah better to look at 10-80% average speed then peak charging speeds.

[civic spoke]

Aka.
Station 1

[forest lintel]

Was only this year they started to remove all Shell branding despite having bought the Shell stations in 2010

St1 has been around longer than that though

[vocal mural]

Even in my area several Shell stations have disappeared. It is OK now

Still showing Shell advertising on

[civic spoke]

The restaurant that ST1 has (Ploq) is amazing

[uncut rapids]

volvo 240 project

shit has been sitting in my garage for like 4 years now lol

2.3l NA automatic

1991

113hp😎

[forest lintel]

That actually looks tasty

[forest lintel]

What's the end goal?

[forest lintel]

Not too bad

[uncut rapids]

make it road legal :D

[civic spoke]

Far from the cheapest.
But it's what you would expect from a service station. Just actually nice foods.

[uncut rapids]

possibly a daily til i find a car that doesnt drink as much fuel

[civic spoke]

Just put one of these on it.

[forest lintel]

I should explore the st1 stations here and see if they have the same offerings

But probably not, the grass is always greener in Sweden

[civic spoke]

I guess this is a franchise that ST1 uses. If you see PLOQ, then that's them.

[forest lintel]

Don't think we have any PLOQ in Finland 🙁

[uncut rapids]

doesnt work in finland :(

[vocal acorn]

The last good 1 series 🤙

[uncut rapids]

i never understood bmw hype

i mean sure theyre good cars when they work :D

friend of mine has an E46 3l diesel

its all plastic under the hood

[pure pond]

like all cars that are new

[uncut rapids]

yeah true

[uncut rapids]

you know like those cars the only oem parts are the engine block and frame?

[edgy bough]

https://youtube.com/shorts/pcxOsEZWKAc?si=OOBxWSV3hZ9wSVtc

[edgy bough]

The only reason to get a BMW is to rip it apart and build a track car out of it.

[uncut rapids]

https://youtu.be/QIzN9-sAV8w
old volvo in its natural habitat :D

[edgy bough]

https://youtu.be/Gb6D-qYJV90?si=ALMnWsdfBgqreopC

Kalle is a beast at everything he touches

[uncut rapids]

need me a d24tic

[forest lintel]

Horrible thing to drive and work on

[uncut rapids]

dont care

funny turbo noise

XD

[stable crane]

I have 3 pedals XD

[edgy bough]

ACC?

[gentle thicket]

Nice. When I was talking to the Hyundai dealer near me when the Palisade was in for service, they made it sound like they couldn't even order the manual.

[civic spoke]

https://youtu.be/xR6_0GReW_M

[brittle totem]

Handicapped the car aswell

[edgy bough]

https://youtu.be/L-sotE7HaVc?si=rNIpY6xdod9IaS_n

[balmy orchid]

Just took delivery of my Chinese baby! Xpeng G9

[uncut rapids]

nice toy

[balmy orchid]

its certainly playful

[uncut rapids]

https://youtu.be/g2BkrOeqJ6k

good watch

truth nuke

[vocal acorn]

B58 engine is probably one of the most reliable, strong high output engines on the market currently. The mechanical side of that gen BMW is solid. They don't really suffer with electrical faults. If your after something fun to drive, not bad on fuel (for a 3l 6cyl motor), and comfortable to daily it's hard to go past something from BMW with the b58 in

[uncut rapids]

yeah i guess its a good engine on paper

its everything else bolted on it thats bad

i dont remember what engine it was from bmw that had a plastic impeller on the water pump for example

and the needlesly complex billions of useless censors, vacuum hoses and shit

the germans have a tendency to create problems for solutions XD

but i mean, if you love your car then love your car

im not gonna try to stop you

[misty mantle]

Cost cutting

[vocal acorn]

Plastic Impeller on a water pump is a good thing. It's the plastic housing you don't want

[forest lintel]

Plastic replacing metal is only a problem if it's a problem. Often it's just an imagined problem.

No water pump lasts forever anyway, it's a service item on many engines

[charred depot]

Its a big issue if it randomly stops pumping

There was a spate of water pumps, metal impellar in this case but the fit was poor so over time the impeller would become free on the shaft

By the time the temperature jump registers as there is no flow your engine is fucked

[civic spoke]

That's honestly a real nice looking vehicle. See lots of them. They seem like a solid EV.

[balmy orchid]

They are! a tad expensive compared to other chinese EVs but a real good car. In EU they are starting to pop up more and more. U from EU?

[civic spoke]

Yeah, I am.
And the G9 are expensive because they are fighting against other premium brands. Essentially Model X, BMW X5, or the EQE. Stuff like that.

[balmy orchid]

Indeed, indeed. Great car

[harsh quarry]

they really do be over engineering basic things sometimes, like those BMWs that have a sensor for oil instead of a dip stick

[vocal acorn]

This... This annoys me, just give me a bloody dipstick.

Although it's better then the r56 mini I had. Engines are common to burn oil (BMW stated 1l of oil per 1000miles was reasonable) that didn't have a level sensor... First you knew if you didn't check was low oil pressure

[distant pumice]

camping, pay to win edition

[cosmic tree]

Y'all heard of "headlight fluid", now get ready for...
https://youtube.com/shorts/htEYSCGRccA?si=ENvNrkJ-FF20LfVr

[misty mantle]

[proven tundra]

There actually is a car with headlight fluid

[paper sandal]

https://youtube.com/shorts/zlyn6nGCc5s?si=RrlyAe36IXmuruoQ

I'm not 100% sure, but that cla seems to have overheating issues

[brittle totem]

That's very common nowadays its just BMW who started it for whatever reason.

[brittle totem]

That's why the N52 is the best

[forest lintel]

But maybe not the 2.5l...

[open terrace]

I get the Miata back from the shop today, don’t know how much it’ll be but ik it blew way over budget because 3 of the 4 subframe bolts were stuck stuck

[civic spoke]

F
Welcome to the life of oldge.

[cosmic tree]

https://youtube.com/shorts/qP7cXmHZgfw?si=fr5JWPM-uthdmXil

[dull cedar]

They let you take the car home both without paying the bill first but also not even seeing it??

[pure pond]

here they always call if you agree to the price then they fix it

[open terrace]

No it’s still there, better yet like 30 seconds after I sent that message he said the motor mounts were iffy and I might as well do them now. So I ordered some track/drift focused polyurethane mounts which was another $100

I just want it back because I wanna drive it lmao, I’ve had it almost a month and haven’t even put a mile on it yet, and we’re suppose to get snow this weekend so I won’t even have much time to drive it before it gets parked for the winter

I also want it back so I can redo the wiring

[gleaming hound]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5LLHc74MSo

[cosmic tree]

https://youtube.com/shorts/UMbIXSrvEbQ?si=PZL0X_VyNVaR4lx7

[cosmic tree]

https://techcrunch.com/2025/11/05/lucid-motors-chief-engineer-leaves-after-10-years/

[charred depot]

too much gear banging ripped the threads out of the rack for the L linkage on the 305, helicoiled and upgraded to bronze bushings. actually shifts nicely now.

[wide hemlock]

4 months ago this car didn’t have an engine

Been sitting for 6 years can drive it around now

Restored the motor time for the rest of the car now

[harsh quarry]

sick

[distant pumice]

That is sick as hell

My friends bought a cheap-ass 1989 rwd volvo in high school just to drift on back country roads in the winter

[wide hemlock]

it was my first car

got back from a trip 4 months ago and finally found motivation to get it going again

it needs basically everything but pretty content with my progress

I have not even looked at it in 6 years so it's pretty much putting together someone elses project

got a better cam in it now so it's a little bit less of an anemic brick

[distant pumice]

yo that goes in the front, not the back

[wide hemlock]

swedish air force lol

tractor motor good

also the hood is painted with chalkboard paint because I was stupid when I was 16

[dull cedar]

Your Volvo is missing a cylinder 😉

[indigo axle]

it's easier to drive a manual car than automatic.

Get a manual one.

[civic spoke]

I still miss my E46.

[wide hemlock]

Yes manual swapping a car that’s been sitting for 6 years and needs everything is a top priority

Give it a few years and I’ll do it

I actually bought a manual off a friend but I gotta drive to Maine for it

[harsh quarry]

if it's been sitting 6 years, how old are those tires?

[wide hemlock]

I don’t wanna talk about it

[harsh quarry]

uhhh

I wouldn't recommend taking that very far

[wide hemlock]

It does need everything

Yes I’m not driving it outside of the neighborhood rn

Winter is around the corner so I’m gonna get all the brakes and tires and exhaust and do it all in spring

[harsh quarry]

what about any other rubber in the car, like seals/bushings and stuff

[wide hemlock]

I restored the motor

[harsh quarry]

suspension/steering bushings though? Idk

[wide hemlock]

It’ll get there

I did look at everything

Car actually doesn’t have many miles in it most of the suspension is decent

Not much rust

[harsh quarry]

damn there's like no rust

[wide hemlock]

Volvos have active rustproofing

The motors just hemorrhage oil everywhere

[wide hemlock]

Whiteblocks are overrated

I’ve had like 3 of them lol

The replacement for this shaft came out of a boat motor lol

Every one I could find for the cars didn’t have the distributor gear cut in it

So I found this on a marine parts website and decided to try it out and it works lol

[gentle thicket]

lol so many chrisfix vibes

[misty mantle]

Inner-outer marine engines tend to just be production on-road engines that the outdrive manufacturers just slap their name and the horsepower rating, along with some boat-specific exhaust manifolds and accessory drive on

Not particularly uncommon to see someone take like a 302 V8 from a boat and convert it over to a truck or car application

I think Volvo was doing their own boat powertrains for a while, not sure if they still are or not tho

[jagged wagon]

Look, the FB20 engine is completely fine and has no problems at all. It's perfect. knocks on all the wood.

[misty mantle]

Those things probably have a headgasket replacement interval in the owners manual

[jagged wagon]

Yes and no. If they were manufactured after 2010-2012 (depending on the model), they won't have the head gasket problems. Instead, they'll have oil burning or valve spring issues.

To my knowledge, Toyota + Fuji Heavy Industries have only announced this for certain model years of the Toyota 86 vehicle... even though the issue impacts the Toyota GR86, 86, Scion FR-S, and Subaru BRZ (because they're all built on extremely similar platforms.)
https://www.toyota.com.au/news/toyota-australia-recalls-86-vehicles-to-replace-engine-valve-springs
That said, some people don't want the recall performed because some dealerships have mechanics that have been known to not perform the swap correctly, then shirk any responsibility for an exploded engine after the fact. We need consumer protection laws.
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143957

[misty mantle]

To my knowledge they're all the same car, Subaru makes them and then badge engineering does it's thing

[dull cedar]

I can tell from the brown that this car hasn't been looked after. Blame whoever didn't change them before, not the engine

[dull cedar]

Alex inflicting mental pain on me (from the latest ZTT)
the rav4's 3SGE is DOHC with a single cambelt gear, he says "it only has a single camshaft"

[dull cedar]

the 86/brz was FA20D not FB20 and the GR86 (and BRZ that goes with it) is the FA24D

[dull cedar]

suspension tuning and of course bumpers are different, and first gen got the intake upgrade at different times and the FRS is just the 86 badged for the american market while scion was a thing

[dull cedar]

don't know if they still do because of the amount of GR Yaris' and GRollas being built but they were assembling 86s in the GR factory

[jagged wagon]

I'm aware; my messages were sent separately for a reason. SaviorSix's photo's look like they have a SubUwU with an FB20 engine, whereas the Toyota/Fuji "super sports cars" I referenced in my other message had FA series engines.

[wild grove]

I see you've been to MTC (McLaren Technology Centre for all the people that do not know). Very nice. Did you buy a McLaren?

[trail quarry]

Sadly not, I work there🙂

[wild grove]

F1 team or car manufacturing side?

[trail quarry]

Automotive engineering

Aero in particular

[wild grove]

very nice, sounds very exciting

For the F1 Team tho or the road / circuit cars or the Indy Team or what?

[trail quarry]

Road cars, so 720s,Senna,W1 etc.

[wild grove]

very nice. They look so damn cool (and are also great cars)

[trail quarry]

It's certainly a cool place to work, very passionate people

[wild grove]

I can only assume there would be

[brittle totem]

Is the 2,5l less reliable i thought they where about the same?

[strong compass]

W1 holy shit

[forest lintel]

Lots of oil consumption issues on it due to poor oil control rings.

[forest lintel]

I guess no one told my Volvo 😢

[lucid jungle]

I'm blaming the engine because the engineers thought putting screws next to the the frame and only give on or two inches of clearance was a good idea... Literally had to jack up the engine to get a little more clarence.

[dull cedar]

You knew what you were in for when buying a subaru

[lucid jungle]

Not when I bought it. I bought it January 1st of 2019... The car I had before then was a 91 Buick Century and that car was easy to play with.

[dull cedar]

You bought a Subaru without knowing how Subarus are? Rip

[lucid jungle]

Didn't realize I needed to study every car brand and engine before buying a car. Thanks for the tip I guess?

Point is, I'm learning and although frustrating, I did it.

[dull cedar]

I mean it is generally a smart idea to research a car at least a little bit before buying it

Every single Subaru has the same "problem" of having to either raise or drop the engine to access the valve covers

[lucid jungle]

Well I didn't know. All this just reminds me why I don't talk cars with people because everyone seems to be know-it-all in the car community.

[harsh quarry]

there's a difference between being a know-it-all and doing basic research before you buy something 💀

Subaru is the only one using boxer engines on regular cars, and that comes with some drawbacks for servicing them

[forest lintel]

Supposedly very easy to get the engine out of Subarus, might be easier to go down instead of up in case you have to do it again.

[forest lintel]

Isn't that the internet by and large though? Everything is black and white and everyone knows better than everyone else.

[harsh quarry]

real

[charred depot]

Yeah I was thinking it would be easier to pull the engine out when doing a clutch on one, 30 year old coolant hoses and stuff so didnt.

[strong compass]

This is the England factory/museum right

Fire

[trail quarry]

Yeah main HQ

[open terrace]

Anybody in the market for a built 3 rotor?

[lone fern]

not for 35 grand lmao

got the ole snow tires mounted and balanced last night, just in time for todays snow and ice lol

[tribal sphinx]

just paid off my Sierra 3500 so time to start looking at a new truck (I always get luxury trims and get a new one right when i pay it off on the 12 month lease for tax and insurance savings that come out to over $30K yearly)
is there anything actually better than the Sierra rn in the 1 ton category?

(RAMs are not better stock I have a RAM 3500 with the high output cummins on a SLT trim the Sierra out preforms it in every possible way)

[harsh quarry]

so you just paid off a vehicle and want more car payments?

[tribal sphinx]

if you're buying a $100K vehicle its a LOT cheaper year over year for the first 8 years of vehicle ownership to just keep getting a new vehicle at the end of your car payments

esp because I always get the dealer to cover a year's worth of DEF and only get a 12 month lease every time

so I also save about $600 in DEF

[tribal sphinx]

im too rough on trucks to keep them for more than like 5 years usually lol (atleast as a daily driver)

so i never get to the point where insurance + yearly maintence is cheaper to do myself instead of keeping a car payment and having the dealer do it.

[tribal sphinx]

$600 in DEF, $11K in yearly maintenance, the rest is savings in insurance and taxes to have it on lease.

there is a MASSIVE reason you don't see many older dually trucks on the road they're almost always newer ones. they get beat to death when you actually use them as a truck and they cost a lot to maintain.

[harsh quarry]

how is it 11K per year that's crazy

[tribal sphinx]

I usually put about 90K miles a year on whatever truck im using daily.

• since I plow I need to put winter oil in (i learned the hard way on my 2022 RAM 3500 you do actually need to do this)

[harsh quarry]

damn someone who actually does work with their truck

my car doesn't even have 90K on the odometer

[tribal sphinx]

10 bottles of AC Delco Gold 15W-40 and 5 bottles of AC Delco 5W-40 costs roughly $790 lol

thats just the cost of oil 😭

not including both filters, a dpf replacement every 50K miles, DEF injectors every 60K

and the several other things any modern turbo diesel needs.

(yes I use mfg oil, thats how you get a vehicle to a million miles, I take care of litterally any vehicle I own very well, even if I no way intend to own it that long)

[harsh quarry]

also this is the first I learn of switching oil types for winter

[tribal sphinx]

diesels need it pretty badly its horrible to cold start most of them on summer oil

every duramax I've owned only needs like 20 second warmup periods on winter oil they need several minutes on summer oil

[harsh quarry]

I'm assuming it's just the cost of doing business then

[tribal sphinx]

yeah, its really stupid to keep them in service more than 4 years if you can avoid doing so

could they do that? yeah easily buisnesses take care of their fleets usually and could easily see 500K miles out of most diesel trucks

resale value drops after 4 years, maintence costs typically go up by about 40% yearly after 10 years.

ideal time for resale is 3 and a half years old

[harsh quarry]

I never would've thought it was so expensive to maintain these trucks but all things considered it makes sense

[tribal sphinx]

I mean they start out at like $58K now on fleet trucks now and on consumer ones more like $80K

when i replaced all the F450s and F350s for my business with silverados it was $53K per truck on the 3500s and $57K on the 4500

it costs less to just buy new ones for fleets after a few years than it does to maintain them lol

the fleet ones exist for consumers but they're very hard to buy most dealerships WILL NOT under any circumsatnces sell them

its $64K now for basically the same thing (this is the L5Pv2 we have the L5Pv1)

[woven dove]

We have to do the same with a few of our engines that are built on 2024 and 2025 ram 5500’s

Though only one is diesel

[tribal sphinx]

iirc theres like 4 oil blends the 6.7 HO in my 2022 has to run for specific stuff but I think theres only winter/summer on the SO right?

[woven dove]

Essentially, yeah.

You COULD get particular and buy some fancy ass shit but no point normally

[tribal sphinx]

I just buy what the service manual names

[woven dove]

We still run a different oil in the winter in our gassers

[tribal sphinx]

AC Delco Gold for my GM trucks, Lucas Synthetic for RAMs

[woven dove]

But that’s just preference. Don’t really need to as much as a diesel

[tribal sphinx]

itll actually tear up diesels fairly bad if you're not block heating them and don't run the winter blend afiak

I know the MDs aren't as bad as the HDs are for shit like that though (factory detuned for reliability stuff unlike the HDs)

[woven dove]

Was talking about gassers when I said didn’t matter as much

[tribal sphinx]

ah

I wouldn't even buy a gas truck for my buisness or for myself personally

[woven dove]

Three of our wildland engines are 6.4 hemi ram 5500’s and ones a Cummins

We did that after our previous fleet of all diesels left people stranded in bad spots due to going into Regen

[tribal sphinx]

diesel moment

diesels are NOT good if they're going out in the ass end of nowhere lol

[woven dove]

Went into Regen in a box canyon when the fire shifted on them

Got sketchy so fuck that, back to gassers

Though our last diesel is emissions equipment deleted

[tribal sphinx]

diesels get better mileage, lifespans and a few other things at the cost of added complexity and less off road manuverability

[tribal sphinx]

I know deleting any of my GM trucks personal or fleet would come with a shitload of reliability issues

the L5Ps where the first actually built with emissions equipment in mind

[woven dove]

We got a waiver since it’s a municipal governments vehicle

Otherwise we’d be getting fined out the ass

[tribal sphinx]

yeah i get that part

[woven dove]

I don’t know, the Cummins in the hd rams seems to be more reliable without all the emissions crap on it

[tribal sphinx]

do they have a factory delete plate or nah?

[tribal sphinx]

cus that engine was designed over a decade ago and basically only built to have EGR and DPF

[woven dove]

It exists, we had one fabbed in house by our mechanic

[tribal sphinx]

factory delete plates on the 6.7 only drop the DEF and DPF the EGR remains

[woven dove]

You can order a kit from mopar for something like four grand that’s “everything you need to emissions delete”

Or you can just do it yourself

[tribal sphinx]

this isn't a full delete though

it keeps EGR and iirc on newer vehicles DPF too

[woven dove]

I’d have to crawl under 554 again to look, but pretty sure ours is down to the equivalent of a straight pipe

[tribal sphinx]

yeah that has more removed than a factory delete then

[woven dove]

Where the def tank sat is now a secondary fuel tank for the pump since it’s not pto driven

Makes it easy to fill up

[tribal sphinx]

all factory deletes and factory styled delete kits typically keep DPF and EGR nowadays

RAMs dropped DPF too for awhile and might still drop it

[woven dove]

We stripped EVERYTHING out of it

And it’s run damn well since

Though I still prefer gas engines for the job

[tribal sphinx]

our hazardous waste 5500 has a factory delete (silverado 5500) keeps the EGR and we constantly get exhaust issues on it due to the missing DEF and DPF system despite being factory

that truck HAS to be deleted according to local regulations

[woven dove]

There’s a connex behind our maintenance shop that’s just piles of parts we’ve removed from rigs over the years

[lone fern]

delete everythingggg

every diesel i have touched has been and will be deleted

[woven dove]

We got a waiver so said fuck it. This document says we can do it so might as well go all in

[lone fern]

causes nothing but constant pain

[tribal sphinx]

L5Ps have exhaust issues and typically will create exhaust leaks constantly if you delete them

[lone fern]

“they all fell off”

[woven dove]

More like got smashed a few times on water bars, tree stumps, the likes

[lone fern]

i can deal with exhaust leaks versus dpf issues loll also don’t have l5p money rn

my lml blew up (typical)

[tribal sphinx]

I've never actually had DPF issues out of any of my GM trucks just following maintence procedure

i only had it on an upfitted LBZ (non factory DPF) that was upfitted to legally enter emissions 3 zones

[woven dove]

I just like that I was able to get away with removing two of the three resonators, the cats and the stock muffler(exchange it for a flowmaster outlaw race series) on my personal rig legally

[lone fern]

i haven’t personally (because they’ve all been deleted) but I know a couple people who have

[tribal sphinx]

have you done your grid heater yet (troill faic)

[lone fern]

my buddy’s dad’s dmax refused to regen and that’s the moment i realized it had to go lol

[lone fern]

cummins moment

[tribal sphinx]

actually if you have a 2025 you dont have the grid heater issues

they finally fixed it on the 2025s

[woven dove]

Even our structure engines need block heaters in the winter and even still sometimes that’s not enough to keep em going in the weather we get here

[lone fern]

thank you cummins for the suicidal bolt falling into my motor lol

block heaters are a must but my 6.5 detroit keeps eating them, i’ve had to put 1-2 in per year which is rough

[tribal sphinx]

unironically the only truck I've actually had to run the block heater on was my 2nd LML duramax

but it wasn't winterized

[woven dove]

We had a day last winter where it hit -40F and below once you factored in the windchill.

Turns out, diesels don’t like when it’s 40 below zero

That was a cluster of a day

[tribal sphinx]

it only gets to like negative 25 in my area lol

[woven dove]

Good old blizzard week

[woven dove]

We don’t get below -15 often unless it’s windy.

As soon as the wind picks up it drops another twenty to forty degrees depending on the speed

[lone fern]

gotta light a fire underneath the oilpan at that point 🫩

[woven dove]

Hard to do that when you are driving

[lone fern]

had to do that a couple times w the skytracks at work

[tribal sphinx]

winterization kits on the GM trucks have a heater for the oilpan lol

[lone fern]

oh hell yeah w gm

[tribal sphinx]

they have heated EVERYTHING if theres a moving liquid since its designed to run down to negative 55 with one

if you ask nicely GM will do you up genuinely ANYTHING you want

[lone fern]

it’s always an lml 💔
mine has died

[woven dove]

This rig kinda did ok that day but we had to run the gas motor for the auxiliary pump to help keep heat in the engine bay

I thought it was a dumb design that it dumps exhaust from that little motor into the engine bay, but it kinda worked for the cold. Think that’s the only time we have used the pony motor

[tribal sphinx]

my first LML had a CP4 failure at 6 months old, they offered to either exchange it for a similar truck or service it I took the option of swapping for a LTZ that didnt have the winterization kit and was a crew cab instead of an extended cab

[lone fern]

honestly a great upgrade lol

[tribal sphinx]

the second one got scrapped at 560K miles due to how badly rusted it was and went through 4 CP4 pumps and like 8 water pumps 😭

[lone fern]

aw hell naw

fairly certain mine needs a crank and also a cp4

[tribal sphinx]

I had a factory crank somehow, but it killed just about every hard to swap pump several times over 😭

[woven dove]

I’m still debating if I buy a diesel 2500 or a gas 2500 in the spring

I can get a factory winch in either

[tribal sphinx]

r u gonna tow or do a lot of high way driving?

[lone fern]

yeah they’re quite possibly (definitely) the worst duramax to roll out of detroit

[woven dove]

Mixed highway and logging roads

[tribal sphinx]

I'd get a diesel

[woven dove]

Looking for something to use also around the ranch

[tribal sphinx]

yeah just get a diesel then imo

[woven dove]

And for wildland with the department

[tribal sphinx]

if you're spending atleast like 40% of the time above 45 mph diesels are worth it for fuel cost savings

[woven dove]

I think the winch on the Cummins 2500’s is a bit smaller capacity but I don’t know off the top my head.

[woven dove]

Diesel is more expensive here

It’s about a dollar more a gallon than premium gas

[tribal sphinx]

yeah but diesels get better mileage all around but its about 1.5x the mileage of a gas between 45 and 70

if diesel is less than 1.5x the price of gas you save on fuel costs

[woven dove]

I’m just looking to replace this rig since I’m no longer assigned this one

[lone fern]

however maintanance costs are much higher so it all comes down sort of to towing

[woven dove]

That one got decent mileage for being a gasser, even when towing our MRZR’s on the highway

Shame that rig got totaled last year

[tribal sphinx]

sometimes when I was speeding on backroads I'd get upto 60 mpg lol

[woven dove]

Was a good crew rig

[tribal sphinx]

I was averaging like 25-29 highway though

[woven dove]

My gasser 1500 averages 26 mpg highway thanks to the dumb eco mode crap it does

But when you step on the gas it makes happy v8 sounds

And you’re mileage tanks

[tribal sphinx]

oh I got upto 29 mpg with all the cso shit off

with it on I could easily do upto 40 lol

[woven dove]

I will say I don’t like how short the gears are on the zf 8spd

Shifting up at 3k rpm’s seems like a sin

Needs to be closer to 7k

[compact grotto]

i chuckled https://packaged-media.redd.it/4545l6vxii0g1/pb/m2-res_1920p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1762848000&s=3d8e4d8fdf015711758e0709338f3dfbb15e62d2

[south jackal]

Get a gasser and save a ton of money. You'll need to be driving closer to 50,000km a year for that diesel to begin to make sense.

[south jackal]

I'll just drop this here about that comparison. While the diesel gets better mileage, it ain't 1.5x the amount. 15-20%. And yet the fill up after just 100 milea still cost more due to the price difference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeQnI1itXNI

Then there is the GM version that matches the Powerstroke results.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxGlHC5gfng

[woven dove]

I’m leaning towards a 2500 rebel

[south jackal]

Yeah I'd just go gasser. Also if you're doing logging roads and off road stuff, the diesel is way way stiffer suspension! You'll feel it!

The rebel is a nice trim for off road.

Diesel is really only relevant when you are towing HEAVY often, and doing a lot of miles, 50,000/year+. That up front cost is no joke. And the maintenance on a diesel is a significant amount more than a gasser.

My father works construction and has a 2011 GMC with the 6.0L vortec engine. He's a 390,000km now, and that truck has essentially towed 90% of it's life ~6000lbs with tools and supplies for the jobs. He's kept up with the maintenance and it's running beautifully to this day. Nothing major has been needed yet. That thing will still roast the tires anytime. Anomaly? Doesn't seem so the more people I talk to. Those who have had issues typically don't keep up with regular maintenance and don't treat the vehicle well. When I worked in a dealership I saw many gas HD trucks with 350+ on them running just fine.

[tribal sphinx]

@woven dove hey odd question since you've got access to presumably higher trim rams

they have a secondary and primary USB C port right? If you use a type C to Type C cable with a laptop while the truck is in accessory and the radio is off does the radio become a second screen

I use that feature a LOT on my Sierra 3500 and I checked the order sheet it's not a optioned thing so this is presumably a standard feature

[tribal sphinx]

Its only $5K dif for the L8T vs the L5P (gas vs diesel)

The gas is usually supercharged or turbo charged the diesel is only turbo charged

[south jackal]

Dafuq you on bro? In a 2500 it's a 6.4L hemi on the rebel

[tribal sphinx]

Also 350km is around 220 miles which is well below average for a gas truck

[tribal sphinx]

You mentioned a GMC I'm talking about the GMCs

My company has 2 turbo charged L8Ts

and the rest are supercharged

[south jackal]

Oh that. On a 2500 isn't it the 6.6L?

[tribal sphinx]

Yeah L8T is the new gasser for 2023+

[south jackal]

yeah with the 10 speed now which is very efficient. Almost matching the duramax

[tribal sphinx]

GMs gas and diesel preform VERY similar unless you get a GMC Denali or Denali Ultimate but the L5P diesel gets about 10 more mpg highway and like 4 more city

(the one in the Denali/Denali ultimate can be optioned to make 120 more HP for the L5P but no high output option for the L8T exists

[south jackal]

Lol no way in hell the duramax getting that much more

[tribal sphinx]

Diesels always get better mileage

I've had mine jump up into the low 60s speeding on back roads with cylinder shut off on

you can hear it dropping to 4 cylinders when doing it

[south jackal]

Vs the 6 speed I can see 30%. But not 10mpg which would be almost 75%more

[tribal sphinx]

it's like 17mpg for the L8T in my experience

its advertised as like 19 iirc

[south jackal]

Not arguing that. But they aren't getting crazy higher

[tribal sphinx]

the older 6.6L gas was better on fuel but isn't nearly as powerful

[south jackal]

Its more like 10% at most

[tribal sphinx]

The L8T is horrible on fuel

[south jackal]

Its like 19mpg real world highway

[tribal sphinx]

It's like 4 mpg more out of the Duramax city

the Duramax doesn't really stop having better mileage till the high 70s

• the Duramax has cylinder shut off neither of the 6.6L gas engines have

(that's the main reason it gets better mileage is it drops to 2 or 4 cylinders when it can)

If you turn off cylinder shut off it's something like 1 more mpg city 4 more highway it's not nearly as big of a dif

[south jackal]

Prove it

I have yet to see any of the HD diesels with this.

[tribal sphinx]

nvm it's the rail shut off on the diesels it's AFM on the gassers

Didn't know the 6.6 gas got AFM