cars

[civic spoke]

Brother found it.

[green grail]

Truly magic

Thank you

[winged raft]

Damn you're right there is a latch

Beats me then

Everything seems to be in functioning order

[full prism]

ew wtf is this filter

[white heart]

Plymouth

Definitely a Plymouth

Used one of those in the long drive

Maybe a fury ? Idk I'm just saying shit from the long drive

[green grail]

Other guy found it, said its a Plymouth Savoy

[white heart]

Peak

[worldly oasis]

making the speaker adapters for my s60 rn

[flint sable]

Holy moly

[turbid socket]

anyone else been following the 12 rotor saga on youtube. I so want to make my own now. I have a buddy that can machine everything for me too I would just have to pay for tools and stock to machine it. I already have committed to a rotary swap for my drift truck build.

[urban loom]

chainsaw powered car

[queen wren]

Anyone know a good first car? ( i have driven my moms car for around half a year now), manual, petrol, i live in norway and not a car like a toyota yaris. budget 10k usd and here is the list of avalible cars that fits my budget:

https://www.finn.no/mobility/search/car?engine_effect_from=121&fuel=1&mileage_to=200000&price_to=100000&transmission=1

[pure pond]

if you want to make a 12 rotor you need to be rich to be able to

[turbid socket]

lol yeah

sadly

[dull cedar]

No offence but this is definitely the peak of Mt. Stupid before the valley of despair.

[dull cedar]

A Toyota that isn't a Yaris then.

[queen wren]

bruh

uk

not my first time asking

[white heart]

im not the peak anymore it seem

[queen wren]

the honda accord was rusted

[white heart]

hes the "dad hate toyota and japanese car" guy

[queen wren]

and same with the other toyota i watched

[queen wren]

yes

[dull cedar]

You can't ask for a good first car and say no to the good first cars

[dull cedar]

Oh

Goodbye

[queen wren]

bruh

[dull cedar]

Not doing this again

[queen wren]

hahaha

[white heart]

wish is exactly why i never asked for a good first car here (or did i)

[queen wren]

okay, but why should i not buy a " good " first car?

[white heart]

cause i know i would be stupid asf and still ignore it

[white heart]

i mean if its rusted a toyota aint the best choice, saw some car here get denied the inspection cause rust

[queen wren]

I watched multiple japaneese cars

Under the car, it was so much rust

and also the engines on the cars are driven like rentals

@dull cedar How is the Opel Calibra

[dull cedar]

Please do not ping me.

I said i wasn't doing this again

[queen wren]

what about a subaru impreza 2.0 gt awd?

its Japanese

[queen wren]

Okay

sorry for the ping

[dull cedar]

Mmm 4 blocked messages

🚪 🏃‍♂️

[white heart]

am i still allowed to ping you

[dull cedar]

Yes

[queen wren]

What car did you end up buying?

[dull cedar]

But I will buttershark you if you annoy me (and don't buy a Toyota)

[white heart]

so far nothing, still looking, also dont have my license yet

[white heart]

i accept my fate

[queen wren]

ah

ok

[white heart]

prepare the shark ethan, for i am not buying a toyota

[queen wren]

I found a 1999 toyota corola driven 5k for 7k usd

only driven in the summer by and old dude

is that a w or l?

[gentle thicket]

Cars that don't get used enough develop their own problems.

[white heart]

every car is always driven only in the summer by an old dude

at least when they get sold

[queen wren]

yee

true

i did some researh on the prince engine, and some people say its good if you maintain it properly

but idk

yee

idk

ethan man can more then me

I wont buy a car with it anyways

[white heart]

ethan quick question, if i didnt get a toyota what brand would you recommend instead ? just looking rn and man toyota's are ugly

[dull cedar]

I'ma bonk you

Some Hondas are fine

Some Subarus are fine

[queen wren]

dont buy honda accord

[white heart]

go ahead i still aint getting a toyota

[queen wren]

it is a boat on the road

[white heart]

too big for a first car anyway

[dull cedar]

Though chances are you're not gonna like the looks of any good car in your budget lol

[queen wren]

yeah

thats why i looked at the 207 rc, it was small

[dull cedar]

Nah

Accords aren't big lol

[queen wren]

yes

they are

they make the A5 look tiny

[white heart]

aye personally i like the 206cc, and there is quite a lot of coupe i like in the budget

btw

budget is 8k now

planning to get a job

[queen wren]

how old r u?

[white heart]

and aunt is helping me

[white heart]

currently 16, will get license at 17 this year

[queen wren]

where r u from?

i could not get my licence before i was 18

[white heart]

france

[queen wren]

ahhh

[dull cedar]

That's why I specifically said good car. The 206cc ain't that

[white heart]

that changed this year in france, license allowed at 17 now

[queen wren]

nice

[white heart]

to you a good car is a bland reliable car im guessing ? (bonus point if toyota)

[queen wren]

if you buy a peugot it will be 10000 parts for your car

[dull cedar]

No. Just reliable

[queen wren]

like its super easy to find parts

[white heart]

aye fair enough

[dull cedar]

They're just bland because your budget is low lol

[white heart]

ngl i actually like mazda's

they look pretty nice

[queen wren]

My uncle says they rust alot

[dull cedar]

And what Mazdas are in your budget lol?

[white heart]

mazda 3 mostly, or an mx5 if i wanted to go bankrupt over repairs (i dont)

[dull cedar]

Yeah no then lol

[queen wren]

why?

[queen wren]

mazda 3 is a little big

[white heart]

there is quite a surprising amount of mx5's with only 60-100k km in my budget, wont get one for first cause rwd, whats wrong with the mazda 3 ?

[queen wren]

wait

nvm

i tought the mazda 3 was the mazda 6

[queen wren]

he just bias

jk

hahaha

[white heart]

@dull cedaranything wrong with opel ? there is a pretty neat looking opel adam fitting in my budget

i heard opels are absolute dogshit

[dull cedar]

GM trash

[white heart]

2013 was already bought by gm ?

[queen wren]

Just dont buy a car brand owned by stellantis and Ethan will be happy

[dull cedar]

Uh yes I'd say 2013 is after 1929

[white heart]

oh oopsy 💀

[dull cedar]

It was owned by the American automaker General Motors from 1929 until 2017 and the PSA Group prior to its merger with Fiat Chrysler Automobiles to form Stellantis in 2021

[white heart]

what about golfs ?

[dull cedar]

Vwag will punish you

[white heart]

bought by GM then stellantis, cant get a single W from opel

[queen wren]

overpriced

[white heart]

who is that and why

[dull cedar]

I call the 3 the japanese golf

It's one of few cars I hate purely because of the owners

I've met quite a few and they've all been assholes

It seems to be a requirement of owning one

[white heart]

very very fair point

same reason i hate bmw's

their owners are assholes

[queen wren]

https://tenor.com/view/bmw-m5-cs-bmw-headlights-m5-lights-gif-14741182894115109918

[white heart]

honestly ethan i kinda considered doing what you recommended me for the toyota but they are so fucking overpriced its crazy

[queen wren]

bmw looks good

[white heart]

meh

[dull cedar]

Expensive != Overpriced

You get what you pay for

[white heart]

newer ones look like a bad piggy character

[queen wren]

true

but the old e90

Looks soo good

but is sooo unrealible

[white heart]

paying 8k for a 2000's corolla with 90k km is ehhhhh

[queen wren]

looks like a nitendo spaceship

[dull cedar]

Good deal

Will outlive you

Cheap cars are cheap for a reason

[queen wren]

Is it no cheap cars with looks - reability - cheap?

[dull cedar]

Other than collector stuff or whatever stuff, cars are generally priced based on how they function as a car, regardless of age, hence an old Toyota costing as much as some newer garbage

[white heart]

eh true but buying it mean i wont ever get an excuse to get a funny car cause it'll never die

[queen wren]

true

[dull cedar]

Then don't use it dying as an excuse to replace it

It's best if it doesn't die, because then you can sell it onto some other person wanting a first car

And then you'll have a few thousand to spend

[queen wren]

because you dont have to spend as much maintaining it?

[dull cedar]

upgrade through Toyotas until you're driving something stupid like A lexus IS F or GR Yaris

[white heart]

thats a fair point

[white heart]

if only lexus was popular here

ngl ill prolly try negociating to lower the price of the toyota at around 5.5k or sum

[queen wren]

f this shit, ill buy the honda accord, and save up for a more expensive car later

[dull cedar]

I usually say to not treat a car as an investment (like caring how much it'll sell for later) but this is a good time to

[white heart]

aye fair enouogh

if i manage to negociate with the dude to knock off a bit of the price

ill go with a corolla

and shit this one aint even too ugly for once

and a low mileage too

[dull cedar]

None of what's currently for sale will be for sale when you plan to buy it anyway

So look again later

[queen wren]

Ill buy the accord

im going to buy it tomorrow

wish me luck

[white heart]

i know that im just currently getting as much knowdlege as i can

[dull cedar]

Fair

Goodnight

[white heart]

have a good sleep

if it make you feel better

ill go with a toyota

IF

i find one decent enough

[queen wren]

toyota supra

[buoyant kestrel]

Hop off

[full prism]

shut up nsx fanboy

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1198727661783093318.webp?size=48&name=Necoarc_Stare

[pure pond]

new gas strut is a little to strong

[full prism]

lol

[white heart]

No

[stiff bloom]

Oh shit I didn't know that. Fucking rip

[stoic ledge]

Corsa D/E platform, quite reliable cars

Diesels are less when driven short distances (so are all diesels, but especially for smaller cars with diesels)

Turboless petrols aren't amazingly fast but reliable

Turbo version's are quite decent

Main thing to look out for is just to keep the oil level at MAX all the time.

People run them on low oil and then they're surprised the timing chain stretches 🥹

[civic spoke]

As much as I would like a diesel for the better fuel milage. I drive too short distances for it to make sense.

[stoic ledge]

I'll just kill a diesel

[civic spoke]

But also. Hate how diesels sound compared to petrol.

With trucks, then it's fine. Because you don't have many alternatives.

An EV would really be ideal for me.
Since I only drive <15 km to work. Same distance back. And it's many times traffic on the way back.

Other than that, I drive a few km's to the store and back.

It's maybe 4 km's to the store.

[gentle thicket]

hehe
https://youtu.be/MPFzzKrip98

[civic spoke]

The 5N is stupid fast.

[worldly oasis]

Hyundai is cooking ngl

[civic spoke]

Ioniq 5 is pretty sizeable, though. Images make it look smaller than it is.

[gentle thicket]

I just can't get past the sticker shock.

[stiff bloom]

Sticker shock and the stupid fake sounds and transmission

It's the final evolution of the horrible soundaktor that VWs have pioneering for decades now

Even when Hyundai isn't copying other companies they're so effing insecure, they cant just embrace the powertrain that they have

[gentle thicket]

full ev stupid, but IMO the fake sounds and transmission is the way to do it because it provides feedback critical for effective spirited driving.

[white heart]

Corsas are the most boring cars I've seen ngl

[stiff bloom]

Ehhh hard disagree. There are better ways to give feedback. Like, a communicative suspension/steering setup? And if you have to have sounds, just amplify the electric powertrain, it can be done in ways that aren't stupidly fake

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxJGIuxJr-0THCOrg0iZvQR-FZLzzwyNv5

https://youtu.be/slMnSoXz8hM

[full prism]

oof so yummy

we need that in fh5

[stiff bloom]

facts. would be a great competitor to the mache

[full prism]

oh even has gears, so good

[full prism]

mach e isnt even rally car

[stiff bloom]

it's the only role its competitive in lmao

[stiff bloom]

wha

[full prism]

theres a gear indicator on the dash, left side

[civic spoke]

Same. It's an expensive car.
Don't even care which brand is on the front.

[stiff bloom]

Oh huh. Never noticed that, nice spot

[stiff bloom]

i mean maybe you should a lil, modern hyundais have horrible longevity

[civic spoke]

They do?

[stiff bloom]

Working in rental cars for 6 years thru '21 and having rented several since then, they look and feel awesome for about 2 years or 30k miles, and then they disintegrate

The number of those and Kias and Geneses that had literal holes worn straight thru the cabin floor and steering wheels falling apart before clocking over 20k miles was unreal

Even Dodges/Chryslers weren't that bad, and those suck

[worldly oasis]

It fits!

[gentle thicket]

We got a 2020 Palisade with like 70k on it that has treated us well thus far. But yeah, those Hyundai engines sound horrible. Even brand new the valvetrain makes your bumm pucker.

[stoic ledge]

There are definitely more boring cars to look at ... But sure that can be your opinion

Adam is just a shortened Corsa D/E platform

[full prism]

nice blackhole

[worldly oasis]

Fr

[halcyon grotto]

to be fair ICE cars can also have fake sounds, just uhhh a bit less fake

[worldly oasis]

Onto the printer

[vocal osprey]

I think DS is also worth checking

[full prism]

ds lite on top

peak handheld

[worldly oasis]

Dsi xl or bust

I have a home brewed one from my childhood it’s baller

[full prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1198727661783093318.webp?size=48&name=Necoarc_Stare

i used ds lite for like a month or so i think, was so good

[vocal osprey]

I mean

Yeah but also yeah

[full prism]

wth

clickbait car

[vocal osprey]

The brand started as premium citroen

[full prism]

ps

[full prism]

stretched car

[white heart]

slowly improving (they'll still put the most dogshit 2 cylinder engine in them)

[vocal osprey]

I think you're right but the way they look I like them .

If they only put something bigger 1.6 under the hood but it won't happen

[civic spoke]

DS is still a Citroen to me.

[full prism]

dees nuts

[civic spoke]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qJzXT4lXuEU?feature=share

[full prism]

suckured

[full prism]

rip

[worldly oasis]

Lmao stock speakers suck

[stoic ledge]

They never had 2-cyl

[white heart]

Irony

Im saying they'll put underpowered engine in those everytime

And unreliable ones too

[fiery token]

Does anyone know how to make it so I can use cruise control in this stupid rental car?

[full prism]

if it doesnt have it, theres no safe way to add it

i can think of a "throttle control" system but it includes sticking a stick onto the gas pedal and adjusting it till youre on the speeds you want lol

so its dangerous af, can easily get stuck on full throttle

[civic spoke]

First of all. What car is it?
And does it even have cruise control in the first place?

[civic spoke]

🧱

[full prism]

thats lowkey worse

u can atleast pull the stick out since one side of it will always be somewhat close to you

but a brick is always far from your hand

[civic spoke]

I don't know.
Could get the throttle stuck unwillingly. Like what could happen in the Cybertruck.

[charred depot]

Not had to do much night driving since leaving my old job but I am reminded today how much I hate it

[civic spoke]

Driving at night when it's raining is the worst. tbh

Working when it's a clear night, however. That's lovely.

No traffic, or anything.

[charred depot]

Enough oncoming traffic to delete my eyeballs

[civic spoke]

Oh, yeah. That's THE WORST

[charred depot]

Bright aimed within a inch of their life legal headlights are all fair and well in a perfectly flat country but the level changes constantly here

[civic spoke]

I picked up my sister's puppy a few years ago back around October.
Not only did I drive like 1,200 km's that day. But we came home at around 9 pm or something like that.

[charred depot]

LED HID ultra laser beam 9000 coming round the bend at the top of the hill to give you a quick laser eye surgery before you take a corner at 60mph

I can see why people are buying SUV's, its over.

And I have like literally perfect eyesight its only going to get harder to be able to see anything

Try to give myself an immunity by welding without a mask

[civic spoke]

My father had the mindset of "These stronger headlights are going to make it harder for me to get binded by other drivers!"

I asked him - How?
Since how good your headhlights are have no say in the matter how blinded you get.

He said by blinding them even more.

[fiery token]

It does have cruise control

[civic spoke]

Was it at a stupid place behind the steering wheel? Like an extra column?

[fiery token]

It's a newer Corolla

I've tried cleaning the front

And I've tried a second time and will see if it finally works

[civic spoke]

I'm guessing that there's an on/off button for the cruise control. And that you can set the speed after that.

[civic spoke]

If it's this steering wheel. Then try pressing that buttons.

[fiery token]

I figured it out

Just a case of someone getting the sensors dirty

[muted haven]

my dad has a citroen ds4

but he has 3 other cars

he never drives the ds4

its a lovely car imo

[civic spoke]

I bet

[fiery token]

Is a 2003 Thunderbird a bad car?

I thought about getting one once I have the cash for it

[full prism]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/893276147679363113.png?size=160&name=shrug

[stiff bloom]

They're fine cars. Nothing super special about them except for the styling, but they're totally okay!

[full prism]

styling is everything

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1198727661783093318.webp?size=48&name=Necoarc_Stare

[near lantern]

is this fixable

i slammed into solid rock at 55 mph

lost control of the vehicle

[full prism]

just needs retouch paint and done

[full prism]

😬 r u fine

[civic spoke]

Couldn't tell you.
You would need a shop to look her over. I don't know how the rock was like, but at best you need to replace the radiators and stuff in the front.
At worst you would be looking at a cracked engine block.

A bunch of suspension is damaged, too. Man. That's rough.
I hope that you all came out Ok.

[near lantern]

im alright, not hurt at all despite experiencing 3g's while slamming into a rock wall

the airbags also did not deploy

[full prism]

stronk man

[near lantern]

also i had the car loaded onto a flatbed truck and taken to the local toyota repair center

another thing, the car still starts, heater works, everything works

except the driving bit

it does not want to go into gear, and tells me "Check AWD System" and "TRAC OFF"

[civic spoke]

Looked like the front right suspension got fuckered.

[near lantern]

yeah

the wheel is a bit sideways

[civic spoke]

Hopefully it's just fixing the bumper, side panel, suspension, and possible radiator and AC stuff that probably also broke.

[near lantern]

that AC stuff is fixed

[full prism]

ayy toyota

[near lantern]

toyota: making the most reliable vehicles known to man

[near lantern]

did yall ever watch that video of top gear trying to kill a toyota hilux

[full prism]

yes

[civic spoke]

I can't imagine the AC working for long after an incident like that. But damn if it does.

[full prism]

whistlindiesel also tried same, its really stronk

[near lantern]

remember they put the truck on top of a skyscraper, then BLEW UP the skyscraper

[full prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1198727661783093318.webp?size=48&name=Necoarc_Stare

[near lantern]

small problem, my car is not a toyota hilux

its a toyota highlander from 10 years ago

still tho its strong af

[full prism]

ofcourse

it has the genetics

[civic spoke]

https://youtu.be/xnWKz7Cthkk?list=PL3kHUb946ZVX3rfQCr4GwnKM0pv_UCVob

[near lantern]

toyota is built different fr 🗣

[jagged wagon]

Can confirm; it's nearly impossible to destroy a Hilux. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl1FNX08HFc

[vocal osprey]

I think throttle house managed to do it, they drove too fast over the sand dune, jumped and broke the radiator.

The biggest problem for me with Toyota is that lack of spark for going fast, being drivers car. Honda have that according to it's funder. I mean if Toyota wants to make car for petrol heads that drives good they proved they can do it. They just don't add that mojo to every car they make in comparison to Honda or Mazda.

Just (type of car) car nothing more nothing less but good and reliable.

[bleak swallow]

Honda is the goat when it comes to engines, but their cars aside from a few are far from excellent (especially when it comes to rust). I heard someone say once that Honda is an engine company that makes cars because it’s easier to sell (or something to that effect)

[vocal osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/draco-malfoy-seemslegit-legit-okay-sure-gif-4000861

[worldly oasis]

Volvo is clearly better in every aspect because I said so

[vocal osprey]

I agree

Only they put turbo straight six transversely in the car

[dull cedar]

You haven't driven many toyotas

Or Hondas and Mazdas for that matter

[vocal osprey]

You are right

[dull cedar]

Also I nearly had a stroke trying to read that

I've driven a lot of different cars that friends and family own.... And yet my 1994 Corolla is the most fun one to drive

My celica would probably be more fun but I only drove it up the street and back before ripping the engine out

[vocal osprey]

Did you put that engine in your corolla?

3S-GE?

[dull cedar]

Lol no

The celica's engine was fucked

The Corolla is an absolute beater

330k very hard kilometers

It's too stubborn to ever die

Checked the oil once after a hard few days and there was none on the stick 💀

And it was fine

[jagged wagon]

Pre-2014 Corolla's are built like tanks. So long as you do minimal maintenance, they'll go forever.

[dull cedar]

Post 2014s still are

[jagged wagon]

Good to know. (I just haven't met anyone with a post-2012 Corolla yet.)

[dull cedar]

Toyota haven't stopped doing what they do well lol

I'd say we're in the modern equivalent of the 80s/90s now for toyota

Things are getting spicy again

GR86, GRC&GRY, and GR Supra

And the Celica is returning too

[vocal osprey]

Wasn't there like lawsuit because frames in Tacomas were rusting

[dull cedar]

Toyota america are a joke

[jagged wagon]

No idea. I don't follow anything to do with Toyata trucks if it's not a Hilux. If I want a small truck, it'll either be a Hilux, a Subaru Sambar, or some kind of small Mazda truck. Or maybe a Subaru Baja for lulz.

[dull cedar]

Hoping for a G20E engine with both NA and turbo variants
Modern 3S plsssss

[vocal osprey]

Will it be another car for 20 year olds but with 40 year olds price tag?

I'm so disappointed with this

[dull cedar]

Be less poor /s

The used market is a wonderful thing

[worldly oasis]

the i5s are better

[vocal osprey]

I know

[worldly oasis]

totally isnt biased because i have a 66k mile 07 s60

[vocal osprey]

I think they fit perfectly in mk2 focus

[worldly oasis]

im still mad they didnt have them here

[vocal osprey]

2.3 was NA Mazda engine right? they didn't even use turbo variant

[worldly oasis]

i think, idk

all i know is they didnt put the whiteblock in any from the us

[vocal osprey]

I think this is just unpredictability of us market

[winged raft]

If the Taliban doesn't use it I don't want it 🗣️ 🗣️ 💯 💯

[worldly oasis]

im not too bothered though we at least have the p2r's

[vocal osprey]

Is this Volvo car platform?

Because I don't know

What do you mean

[lone bane]

Hey y'all, Is it worthy buying a 1993 Corolla as my first car?

[white heart]

i wish it was in france too

[white heart]

@dull cedar your time to shine

[dull cedar]

It is you're just extra broke lol

[dull cedar]

Abso-fucking-lutely yes, do it

[white heart]

💀 didnt have to call me out like that

8k isnt that bad

[dull cedar]

[lone bane]

Daaamn Really, But I feel like it's a bit old isn't it? Like are there any perks for buying that car?

[white heart]

8k is already twice the avg budget for a new driver here

[dull cedar]

Perk: shitbox that won't die

[white heart]

it'll outlast you, your grandkids, your grand grand kids, in fact it'll outlast the planet

[lone bane]

WHAT?

[dull cedar]

You also have a taste issue

[lone bane]

WAIT WHAT?

[dull cedar]

The E100 Corolla is unkillable

Unless you intentionally kill it

[white heart]

hey sorry for not wanting the world most boring cars ever made, those corollas look god dang awfull, i like the 90s one not the newer one

[lone bane]

DAMN BUT HOWW😭😭

[dull cedar]

Because Toyota know how to make cars.

[lone bane]

DAAAAAAMN

1ST CAR CONFIRMED

1993 Corolla it iss thenn🙂‍↕️❤️

[white heart]

wish there was more 90s corolla round here

[lone bane]

There are lots in here and ngl I've seen most of the guys make that specific car as their first car

[white heart]

is my taste really that bad

[lone bane]

Also the Mercedes W140 fr

Dayum That's clean fr

[queen wren]

Is that your car?

[white heart]

nice

why do those refuse to exist in france bruh

i'd get one instantly

there only is aygo

which are ehhh

too small for my taste

aint saying i want a massive pick up

but like if the car is a bit bigger than a aygo it'd be great

[lone bane]

A prius?

Or a Honda Jazz

[dull cedar]

Lol the camera lies

[white heart]

doesnt exist either i think

[lone bane]

Or maybe something like a Nissan Altima

[white heart]

the altima is a no just because of the stereotypes about it

jesus christ 8k for a 200k km prius ?

[white heart]

@dull cedaris this a joke or is that even supposed to be normal

[dull cedar]

That's normal

[lone bane]

Daamn really
There are Priuses everywhere ngl

[dull cedar]

200k ain't shit on a prius

[white heart]

france

[white heart]

still

[lone bane]

Ofc they're Durable as hell

[dull cedar]

They last forever and they're cheap to run

[white heart]

8k for a fucking prius is crazy 😭

though

for 1k more

there is one with 46k km

[lone bane]

Daamn really Like what?

[white heart]

fair enough

[white heart]

driven by assholes who got nothing to lose, also there isnt any left without scratches, dent and other shit

[lone bane]

They still exist pretty well in France eeh?😭

[white heart]

they do

but most are out of budget

[lone bane]

Daaamn really?🤐

[white heart]

or have over 200k

km

[lone bane]

Fr though

[white heart]

yes

[lone bane]

200K Km is Nothing for a Prius
Trust me frr

[white heart]

the newer prius are sick ngl

[lone bane]

Bro went to the gym and got a glowup fr

[white heart]

until the batteries die

and you got to change them

for over 3k

knowing my dogshit luck

the batteries would fail on me

so a 8k prius become a 11k one if i include batteries

[lone bane]

Fr though dawg

[queen wren]

tbh, i. would rather drive a little unreliable car with better looks then a prius

[white heart]

what about the batteries

[lone bane]

What about a 2008 Civic (The Hybrid one)

[white heart]

yeah thats my other problem with a prius, pretty ugly

[queen wren]

Yeah

why cant toyota make the car a little less alien spaceship looking

[lone bane]

Japan is Full of those alien looking aah cars ngl

[queen wren]

fax

[white heart]

all got over 200k km

[queen wren]

If you want a cheep car thats not "super" ugly you can get the Hundai getz. its small, last forever. My friend he has driven it over 100k km

no problems

[white heart]

except a few of them

[lone bane]

Hyundai? Lasts forever?
I thought they were less reliable ngl

[queen wren]

nah

he forgot to serve it for like 50k km

no problems

[dull cedar]

Last long enough and are easy to swap (there's a chrisfix video on it lol)

[lone bane]

Daaamn you being fr dawg?

[dull cedar]

Yeah no a getz ain't lasting lol

[queen wren]

?

[white heart]

they look like the word beater itself

[lone bane]

WHAT?

[white heart]

yeah we might not have the same def of easy

also it's easy if you have the tools (i dont)

[queen wren]

its bulletproof

[white heart]

@dull cedarhow much does a new battery even cost

[dull cedar]

Not too much

[lone bane]

WAIIIT WHAAAAT😭😭

[dull cedar]

Lmao when your source is the google questions section

Hyundai's are crap, no exception.

They will stay crap until they prove otherwise

[white heart]

just looked it up and it seem like it'll be 1.5K minimum just to buy a new one

[queen wren]

have you driven a hundai? or ever owned one?

[white heart]

and thats counting on me installing it and not paying someone to do so

yeahhh

payign 12k (to buy a new battery with the car) for a 200k km prius doesnt really look good to me

[lone bane]

Well, What about a Toyota Axio?

[queen wren]

thats fat

[lone bane]

Fat?

[queen wren]

ye

nvm

[lone bane]

Wdym fat like i didn't get it

That's why

[queen wren]

I remembered wrong

@white heart you getting manual or automatic?

[queen wren]

a little choncky

[lone bane]

Fr though😭😂

I mean it's a great car ngl

[queen wren]

Yeah

its not that ugly also

[lone bane]

Hell yeaa

[dull cedar]

Corolla

[dull cedar]

Yes I've driven them and know people that previously owned them and no. I'm not an idiot, I would never own a shit vehicle

[queen wren]

I have a friend that has drived the gets over 100k past 8 years, he has never had any problems with it

it just worked

[lone bane]

Axio basically is a corolla isn't it? Just like the Hybrid versions of the corolla fr

[dull cedar]

Google Toyota axio and see what wiki page comes up

Hint: it's the E160 Corolla page

[lone bane]

Damn it iss

[queen wren]

its a lil diff

[lone bane]

The full name also says
Toyota Corolla Axio
It's a lil bit diff but still is a corolla fr

Ngl though it's rare to find a Toyota century these days isn't it

The 1997 one

Damn it really got that majestic look fr

[dull cedar]

Not that rare tbh

Well kinda rare to see one

But they're for sale often

make the only japanese production v12 ever purely for smoothness

[lone bane]

Frr Daawgg

🙂‍↕️

[white heart]

Whichever will be available

[white heart]

I'm in France

Axion doesn't exist

[lone bane]

Damn really🥲

[queen wren]

buy peugot

they are like stupid cheap in france

if it breaks

buy another one

ez

[white heart]

Mehhh depend

[queen wren]

How much does a 308 gti cost there?

or a 208

[white heart]

GTI ? Over 20-30k

[white heart]

208 is unreliable as fuck

[queen wren]

not the el

[white heart]

still

the 8 series

has absolute DOGSHIT engines

from what i remember

mostly 1.6 vti

[queen wren]

the 208 e?

Electric

[white heart]

and 1.6/1.2 puretech

[queen wren]

dont puretech

[white heart]

absolute dogshit engines for both

[queen wren]

the pure tech is pure shit

[white heart]

the pure tech make the VTI look like a toyota

[queen wren]

hahahah

[white heart]

eh also pretty mid

[queen wren]

nah

[white heart]

the 8 series from peugeot is pretty dogshit

[queen wren]

what makes them shit?

we have a 208 e, a great go cart feeling car

its a little over 8k tho

[white heart]

reliability

[queen wren]

meh

its fine for us

but owcba, you are planning to serve the engine?

and maintain it?

for your car

[white heart]

obviously ?

who the fuck doesnt maintain his car

[queen wren]

ethan

because he only drives toyota

jk

but

if you serve the engine properly and care for your car, i dont think it cares so much if you drive an audi or a toyota

you wont own the car more then 4-5 years max prob

[white heart]

way over too

[queen wren]

Im just gonna buy a cheap car now, drive it for 2-3 years and then buy a more expensive one

[queen wren]

yeah

[white heart]

depend

if i said like ethan said

get a beater

then upgrade

yes

[queen wren]

thats just what i said

but yeah

[white heart]

otherwise if i get a mildly decent one

ill keep it

[queen wren]

i want the 207 RC, looks so fun to drive

[white heart]

cause i'd lose money buying it then selling it

[queen wren]

but prince engine

[queen wren]

true

but when i search problems with the 207 RC, no one "disses" the engine, everyone just complain about the electronics

like seat warmer and stuff

[white heart]

yeah cause french cars and electronics dont mix

i dont even think i could even say a french car

that didnt have electronic issues

[white heart]

what if i sold one of my livers and bought a century ?

[dull cedar]

You will go bankrupt on your first trip to the gas station

[white heart]

sound worth it

[white heart]

also whats the max mileage till a car isnt worth it ?

i go with 150k most of the time

[dull cedar]

Depends on the car

[white heart]

fair enough, btw whats this brand ? there is no outside pics, just wondering what this is (2001)

also sorry for spam pinging i just wanna talk

[dull cedar]

Rover

Avoid

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rover_(marque)

[white heart]

neat, never heard of it, but if you tell me i'll avoid it

there must be a reason why they went bank rupt so ill avoi

[dull cedar]

bri'ish shitbox

[white heart]

aye fair enough

surprisingly nice inside tho (wont get one dw)

some mfs really are delusional

one guy called his beatdown civic a "collection car"

there's so many french cars

[white heart]

ngl ethan i changed my mind ill go with a beater toyota

then change car later when i get a job

cause if i wanted a somewhat cool car

i'd have to either give up reliabilty

or pay a shit ton more

[dull cedar]

And this is what fools people into buying Hyundai's lol

[white heart]

eh, newer hyundais are also pretty cool performance wise

the trend steal a hyundai did happen in france a few year back tho

@dull cedardid that also happen in the US ?

[dull cedar]

Idk

Probably

It was TikTok shit

[white heart]

in france it was all over the place lmao

people stole them with just about everything

including a sheet of paper

and a coat hanger

[queen wren]

wtf

[white heart]

the avensis look quite nice ngl

is it jsut a corolla variant ?

cause 3k for a 150k km one is surprisingly cheap

too bad its a diesel

[queen wren]

Looks like grandpa car

[dull cedar]

The avensis is its own thing but related to the camry

[dull cedar]

Shut

[white heart]

any issues with them ? cause they look quite good in my opinion and are surprisingly cheap (i set the range around myself for a car at 200km to have more options)

also found a corolla for 3k

yeah i think ill go with toyota

get myself a sedan corolla or avensis

[queen wren]

What one?

[dull cedar]

Correction: depends on generation

[queen wren]

buy the old corolla

that looks good

[dull cedar]

It started out as a caldina sedan apparently

Or I guess the caldina was just the wagon avensis

[white heart]

a sedan

[dull cedar]

Since the avensis came in all types

[white heart]

prolly a corola

[white heart]

look decent enough

[queen wren]

😭

[white heart]

there also is a real corolla

for same price

with less km

[queen wren]

grandpa car

[white heart]

and its not a diesel

[white heart]

so what

if its reliable ill take it

[queen wren]

how much is it?

like how much does it cost

[white heart]

3.2k

[queen wren]

can you send me a link?

i wanna take a look

[white heart]

@dull cedarsomething wrong with that ?

seem quite cheap for the amount of km

[queen wren]

send link¨

so we can translate and read

[dull cedar]

Can't tell shit from the pics lol

[white heart]

apologies 💀 here is the linkhttps://www.leboncoin.fr/ad/voitures/2922277652

[queen wren]

Only driven 92000km

dmm

damm

[white heart]

yeah surprisingly low price too

@dull cedarlast ping of the day i promise, how many generations will this thing outlast ?

[dull cedar]

All of them

It will be driving when the sun eats the earth

[white heart]

it look awesome ngl

geniunely a cool ass car

[autumn crypt]

Cool

[lone bane]

Is it worth buying y'all?

These are the MOT Checks for the relevent vehicle

[halcyon grotto]

Tax do be kinda high ig

[lone bane]

Ofc it's England eeeh😭🗣️💀

[queen wren]

0-100 12s

[lone bane]

12 Business Days

😭💀

[queen wren]

hhaahaha

even my old fiat grande punto 78hp was faster

[halcyon grotto]

True, but I would imagine you might be able to get something a little more interesting for the same moneys at that tax?

Depends what you need it for though

[lone bane]

I just want a vehicle to drive with a better fuel management and less mechanical issues😭

[queen wren]

what car do you drive now?

[lone bane]

I actually don't have one rn

I'm thinking about moving into England For my Bachelor studies

And I was thinking about owning my first vehicle

[queen wren]

good luck driving on the wrong side of the road

shifting gear with your left arm

[lone bane]

Nah we drive on the same side though

On the left side

[queen wren]

where r u from?

[lone bane]

Sri Lanka

[queen wren]

ahh

[lone bane]

And yeah, we drive from the Left side of the road like british ones does

So, it's damn easy for us though

[queen wren]

yeah

then its fine

[pure pond]

its not that hard to go from left drive to right hand drive cars

[lone bane]

I mean I've tried some right sided vehicles when I went to US for vacation and tbh it only takes a little practice fr

[halcyon grotto]

What about

Or does it absolutely have to be auto

[lone bane]

Nah manual's Fine fr

I can drive stick fr

[halcyon grotto]

That has lower tax by 100 quids, 8.6s 0-60 and better economy

[lone bane]

Is that a Civic?

[halcyon grotto]

Yeah

[lone bane]

Daaaaaang

Daaamn that's a good one right there

[halcyon grotto]

There's loads of those at that price, though perhaps there might be some issue with them I'm unaware of?

[lone bane]

2000 Quids with a 100 quids lower taxes and a better fuel economy, Hell yeaaa that one matches just for me fr

But I gotta check the MOT Reports for this fr

[halcyon grotto]

Fair few advisories on that one

But as I say there are 10 of that car around for the same/similar money

Also not all garages log advisories the same which is a bit annoying

[autumn crypt]

Looks rollable

[lone bane]

It in fact is better than that Corolla fr

[queen wren]

alien spaceship

[halcyon grotto]

I always thought they looked a bit odd

But these days I quite like em

[queen wren]

[lone bane]

Can y'all guess the vehicle

[narrow ridge]

Land Rover Defender, around the year 2011 maybe?

[lone bane]

Ofcccccc it isss

Hell yeaa G you even guessed the year correctly

[narrow ridge]

lol nice

Here's my Volvo Ford

It's my first car actually lol

[lone bane]

Dayummmmm

That's clean asf frrr

[narrow ridge]

Half of the electronics won't work lol

[lone bane]

But it functions eeeh

The necessary ones

That's what we need from a vehicle duuh🗣️❤️

[halcyon grotto]

at least the engine will work proably

[queen wren]

is it the 1.0l 125hp?

[narrow ridge]

Nah, 1.25 82hp

[queen wren]

nice

manual?

[narrow ridge]

ofc manual

[queen wren]

Nice

how fast is it 0-100?

[narrow ridge]

A lot, it's slow, but if you get the rpms up, i managed to get like 9,5 seconds

[queen wren]

thats not too bad

my friends mom had a fiesta

we upgraded the screen to a apple carplay for her

pretty easy in a ford to add carplay screen

https://www.ebay.com/itm/316109223711?norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-167022-216295-1&mkcid=2&itemid=316109223711&targetid=296227501805&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9198169&poi=&campaignid=20797276781&mkgroupid=155163398879&rlsatarget=pla-296227501805&abcId=&merchantid=119648210&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAD_QDh-1c_C8YfTjbhAn9UM2GC9Xl&gclid=Cj0KCQiAkoe9BhDYARIsAH85cDO808yBeBMGA4fdkfm5Kwz0u3ZSoU7wHIeeqzGEDYTcDwH95PYTuOIaAppnEALw_wcB

like this

[austere halo]

I don’t have a cat but miata

Car*

[narrow ridge]

I just put bluetooth there, i don't need carplay

[narrow ridge]

Miot

[austere halo]

I hate autocorrect

but yes miot

[queen wren]

0-100

maby

[austere halo]

maybe

perchance

[stoic ledge]

So you made it 4 seconds faster than quoted from the factory 🤔

Also, the facelift was never made with the 1.2

So something is off here

[queen wren]

maby he had the sun in his back and the wind blew behind the car

miata light

[white heart]

@dull cedar the volvo s80 is pretty reliable right ?

just to see if i add it to the list of potential cars

[narrow ridge]

The car was front end crashed. Front bumper got fucked. Got it after my grandpa, since he wasnt driving it, he figured, that he would give it to me instead

But it's 2014 model

My grandpa didn't see a tractor tyre on the road while driving 120km/h and crashed into it. Frame wasn't bent, but front bumper, headlights and fenders got mangled.

So my guess is, that the front end got swapped. Like i said, my first car, i'm young, it's a miracle that i even have a car at my age.

[narrow ridge]

And about the speed, it was on the highway, when i went from a gas station

So probably a little downhill, no clue

[halcyon grotto]

I think both the P2 and P3 are pretty reliable given the right engine choice?

[charred depot]

My Poojie 305 has a roughly 6 second 0-60 I think it could still be a little faster.

Main thing I see with Volvo's of that period is bloody airbag faults

[worldly oasis]

Just do timing belt stuff when the manual tells you to

[halcyon grotto]

(and pcv at some point too(

[white heart]

neat

[halcyon grotto]

From my p2 v70 I would recommend checking the underside for rust (dependent on region ofc). Mine is/was quite bad around the area below the rear boot

[worldly oasis]

My Pcv hose just didn’t exist in the middle for a while

[halcyon grotto]

Yeah mine broke under the top plastic cover and dumped a fair bit of oil into the spark plugs which didn't have great results

I replaced it but the PCV (working good now) seems to leak a tiny bit of oil somehow

[stiff bloom]

They're reliable but be very careful buying, if they havent been maintained they become money pits fast. If they have been maintained tho they're amazing

[white heart]

i will check with the dude if i get one

thanks mate

[white heart]

i will

[fresh island]

a girl is angry at me cuz I didint let her drive my car at 100 over a raised crosswalk

[worldly oasis]

Tragic

[prisma frost]

Looking new again

[merry mason]

i have a 208 !

first car, insurance starts on thursday then i am officially a driver

[white heart]

Good job mate

Sending prayers so your engine hopefully last

[merry mason]

i already changed wet belt ahahaha

[white heart]

French ?

[white heart]

Neat

[merry mason]

no i am from the uk

but peugeots are really common here

[white heart]

Oh true

[merry mason]

i really like peugeot tbh people always say french cars shit but they all just parrots

[white heart]

I mean...

Newer ones really ain't helping

[merry mason]

even the new toyotas are shit tho lets be real its all emission control killing cars

[worldly oasis]

Old Volvo or bust

[dull cedar]

Eh. Parts are expensive

[white heart]

Aw bummer

[dull cedar]

Every Volvo owner I know has a specific mechanic and it's there often, and the bills aren't cheap

[white heart]

Oof

Corolla it is

[worldly oasis]

Most stuff p2 and earlier is simple enough to do at home but yeah oem parts are expensive

And anything electrical is NOT fun to deal with

[winged raft]

I'm late to the game I guess but the C63 has a 4 CYLINDER!?

What is Europe doing right now

[merry mason]

americans when a fancy car doesnt have an 8+l fuel guzzler

[winged raft]

You're strange

A 4L would do like they have in the SL63

They could at least be honest and call it the C20 AMG and get a deserved laughing at

Even BMW is still on 6 cyls for compact models

Mercedes is supposed to be the V8 plug

No wonder nobody cares for new Merc models

I didn't even want a Mercedes V8 when I was looking at GLEs they were 53s

But I need me an E63 someday

The DSG farts 😍

[civic spoke]

Hybrid dealio thing.

[lone fern]

All cars should have an unnecessary large v8 cuz america babyyy (i’ve owned four vehicles and none have had a 4cyl lmaoo)

[light osprey]

Dodge has entered the chat

[lone fern]

I wish gm and ford slapped a supercharged v8 in their modern, boring suv lineups cuz at least it’d be fun

[light osprey]

Eh you can still buy an F150 with a V8, you get a full spec one and its basically an SUV with a big ass

[lone fern]

Yeah true that

I’m not a fan of new cars anyways just because they are hell to work on (also because I can’t afford em lol)

[winged raft]

It's weird though because it's not the Raptor, the Raptor is only equipped with the twin turbo V6 now

[lone fern]

Most fun I’ve ever had in any of my cars was a gmc envoy with a 5.3 in it, till I smoked the transmission doing a burnout. Boring car but so fun to rip

[winged raft]

Very unfortunate, hopefully the eco fad will die down as they see that the market turns out different than they expected

[light osprey]

really? didnt know that, idk why lol, Raptor was always the super high performance F150

[winged raft]

Exactly yeah, I think it's only the Tremor that can be optioned with the V8

Gets less off road features than the Raptor and yet is more expensive

Nobody should be paying 6 figures for a V6 powered truck

[lone fern]

It’s kind of silly they got rid of the v8 as an option on the raptor bc like half the people buying raptors want one lol

[light osprey]

I had an 95 GMC Yukon with the 5.3, was alot of fun, till it hit its rev limit at 100mph lol

[winged raft]

Hence the rotting Ford epidemic

None of their models sell

Especially Raptors

[lone fern]

You mean the 5.7/350 right? Or was it ls swapped?

[light osprey]

Ah ye sorry, was the 5.7

[merry mason]

Yea buddy 🦅🦅🍺🍺🇺🇸🇺🇸

[light osprey]

When I worked at the dealership last year, most all that sold was thier mid range SUVs

[lone fern]

Yeah no biggie lmao I own a 98 k1500 and a lot of folks swap their blown up 350’s with ls’ which is why I asked, because I’m planning on that when mine goes

[winged raft]

Even Chevy (and equivalent) is still optioning V8s in all of their trucks and the Tahoe/Suburban

[light osprey]

Ive been thinkin about picking up another truck like that, all ive got rn is an Avalanche thats falling apart

[winged raft]

Fords pricing on all of their models is pretty crazy, they suddenly want to take a premium approach and it isn't working very well

[light osprey]

Yeah, F150 still has an optional V8, but most sell with the ecoboost V6

[lone fern]

I’d do it, they’re so simple to work on and very reliable (albeit mine is falling apart, but it’s got 250k miles and has metal shavings in the oil)

[white heart]

Watching y'all talking about V8 knowing I'll never get one cause Europe is funny

[light osprey]

Idk why tbh, Lincoln is supposed to be the premium brand, not Ford lol

[lone fern]

Import babyyy

[light osprey]

Import an old mustang lol

[winged raft]

They're scaling both up, they want Lincoln to compete with Land Rover, and flagship BMW/Mercedes/Audi models

[lone fern]

Plus they’re being recalled half the time too

[winged raft]

They are the KING of recalls 😭

[white heart]

With all the rules they're adding at this point

[winged raft]

They're disappearing from our hands too unfortunately

[white heart]

By the time I have enough money to insure and import

There won't be a single

[light osprey]

thats not gonna happen lol, Rover, BMW, Merc all have brand recognition globally as luxury brands, Lincoln doesnt have that

[lone fern]

It’s wild dude they ask near 6 figs then forget to tighten half the damn bolts and have to recall every one of em

[white heart]

Car with more than 4 cylinder left

[lone fern]

I mean i follow this fella from Norway or something on ig that owns a 90’s chevy k3500 dually with a 454 big block so anythings possible with way too much money

[light osprey]

Primary repair in my shop was turbos, they were near constantly dying. thats why Ford lost the police contracts

[lone fern]

I can’t imagine how much that’d cost to fill tho

[winged raft]

Right, not to mention reliability as of recent, Euros are getting crazy reliable and Ford is still stuck kicking rocks

[lone fern]

Sure doesn’t help everything they sell is turbocharged lmao. Either that or their cam phasers are effed

[white heart]

Aye fair

Money is the problem as always

[lone fern]

Always is 😦

[winged raft]

Yep yep, my dad had a 2018 Escape that blew over the summer, turbo was the problem

[white heart]

If I had money the amount of cars I would buy

[winged raft]

Like 90k miles

[light osprey]

Thats the other part, Ford hasnt had much RnD into higher output 4 and 6 cylinder engines like the euro brands have, without slappin a turbo in it that is

[lone fern]

Jeez

[white heart]

There was a really nice looking jag with a v8 near me

Appart from the paint job being awfull

And some of the inside needing a clean

It seemed great

Oh to be rich

[lone fern]

Yeah it feels like ford’s solution to make more power using less gas is to take an already bad motor and slap twin turbos on it and send it down the line

[white heart]

Id have bought it in an instant

[lone fern]

Instead of designing a new motor

[light osprey]

Id hope they have one in the works by now, especially if they wanna stay competitive with Asian and Euro brands

As much as Chrysler has their own reliability issues, atleast getting bought out has introduced more foreign design choices to keep them competive

[lone fern]

Yeah i sure hope. I wish ford still made a cheap car too, but nobody would buy it. I don’t want another freaking crossover

[white heart]

I'm guessing by euro y'all mean bmw Audi and mercedes cause so far Peugeot, ds, Citroën and Renault ain't improving in term of reliability

[lone fern]

That’s true, however chrysler is kinda swirling the bowl at this point with dodge being the only thing that has kept them alive till now

[winged raft]

I'm referring to Euros that compete with Ford in the US

[white heart]

Ooooohhhh

[lone fern]

Of course it’s an escape too, i swear everyone I know who’s bought one post 2012 has regretted it immensely

[light osprey]

Yeah sadly, the new Hornet seems pretty neat atleast

[winged raft]

My dad has a vendetta

[light osprey]

and I had forgotten that, the Chrysler 300 still offers a V8 as well dont they?

[lone fern]

True, although I’ve heard they aren’t selling all that well. I think I’ve seen one on the road

[lone fern]

I think the 300’s dead all chrysler makes is a minivan

[winged raft]

He's the angry vet type, we went up and watched NHRA and he started swearing when he saw a dude with a Ford Performance Ecoboost shirt on 😭

[light osprey]

Damn, I always liked the 300

[lone fern]

Honestly a warrented reaction i don’t blame him one bit

[past copper]

so they can go through a concrete wall at 150mph??? I swear the body lines never match up on those things.

[winged raft]

I have seen like 1 or 2 ever

[lone fern]

Yeah they love axing all their good cars and keeping the most boring cars

[lone fern]

Section 8 rolls royces ftw

[winged raft]

Hellcat swapped 300s are crazy

My boy has one in the shop rn

[lone fern]

They are crazy

[past copper]

I mean the people I see driving a 300 drive like its GTA.

[lone fern]

Yeah basically an altima owner with a bigger tax refund

[past copper]

But that's just Flint every other day

[light osprey]

300 was the last bastion of big boat sedans, shouldve never sold my ex police Crown Vic lmao

[lone fern]

Oh you’re from flint I am sorry for your loss sincerely a northern michigander

[lone fern]

Dude vics are the shit i want one but everyone wants too much for clapped ones nowadays

[white heart]

Technically Citroen a long long time ago ?

[light osprey]

You can still find some decent deals, got mine for $1500

[white heart]

The ds sold well in the us

[past copper]

No I don't live there thank god, but I've had the pleasure of driving there for a month for job training.

[lone fern]

That ain’t bad. I would love one as a drift missle lol they’re tanks

[winged raft]

Idk how so many exist

[lone fern]

Oh phew. I think I’ve been there once and once is too many times

[winged raft]

Seems like it'd be a hell of a project

[lone fern]

Dude that’s sweet

Not a chrysler fan at all but I would die for one

[white heart]

Smash

[winged raft]

I've always loved Cat engines and always loved the look of 300s

Not as big of a fan of Challys and Chargers

[lone fern]

They’re definitely sleepers for sure

[past copper]

Going down Dort highway down 54 is like going through hell. You don't know what you're going to see next.

[lone fern]

I love the hellcat swapped dodge magnum that I see from time to time on ig

[winged raft]

Eh kinda, 300s came with a 395 Scat Pack trim and those get modded pretty often

I wouldn't mess with a loud 300 no matter what 😂