cars

[civic spoke]

Aluminium IS metal.

[hexed kayak]

Youve never seen an ad for an American truck have you?
They intentionally try to destroy them in alot of advertisements to show how durable they are

[pure pond]

well try bending aluminum back and it breaks

[hexed kayak]

[civic spoke]

Al is a lot more brittle. Bend it, and it cracks and breaks.

But like, either way.

The Cybertruck is a meme anyways.

[hexed kayak]

The bed of the f150 in the video was aluminum and it bent and tore instead of shattering so
What

[civic spoke]

I'm going to go ahead and offend more people and call the Tesla Semi a meme as well.

[brittle totem]

Do you know how ad work? they only show the thing that is good and skip parts when it went wrong. And also the are planned beforehand they know what they are doing Cody just does what he feels like and se what happens.

[civic spoke]

Remember this?

https://youtu.be/7kx67NnuSd0

[pure pond]

yeah but thats aluminum alloy vs cast aluminum they have different property's

[hexed kayak]

The cybertruck frame is stamped aluminum not cast

That truck never would have passed crash testing if it was made out of cast aluminum

[pure pond]

dont think it stamped

[civic spoke]

Extruded Aluminum

[hexed kayak]

American trucks from 40 years ago being built to take abuse

https://youtu.be/Msd5ltrMd3Y?si=VV1rvpG6Gewhia6Q

[civic spoke]

I mean, yeah.
Helps that they are a lot more simple than any modern vehicle.

There was an Electric Volvo FH at the dealership here. And man, it's a beaut.

[hexed kayak]

Its going to be such a fucking meme. Those batteries wont last long

[civic spoke]

I'm sure the batteries will last. But the whole interior and center position is a joke to me.

[hexed kayak]

Beating the living piss out of the cells with 80k pounds of weight is a great way for them to not have a long life

[hexed kayak]

I like the centre steering thing

[pure pond]

im just waiting if they isolated the aluminum and stainless steel because that shit can corrode each other

[hexed kayak]

The the stainless on the truck is just glued to the body and can be peeled of

All of it

[civic spoke]

It's terrible.
Imagine adding another blind spot when you have to reverse.

[pure pond]

yeah but still if it touches

[hexed kayak]

Im fine with that. Because you loose the blindspot of your front right while actually on the road

[pure pond]

with all the years they had to make it it could have been so much better

[civic spoke]

Still doesn't make up for the additionial blind spots that you get beside/behind you in my eyes.

[hexed kayak]

I gonna bet we arent gonna see a single farmer using a cybertruck for farm work

[civic spoke]

I see lots of BEV trucks on the roads hauling freight already.

[hexed kayak]

They would loose their temper so fast if if someone said pickup trucks weren’t built for what whistlin is doing. Doing things those trucks werent built for is pretty much 80% of their job

And the trucks ALWAYS survive

[pure pond]

most farmers also want something they can fix them self

and if you do anything with a tesla you void the warranty an shit

[civic spoke]

I remember John Deere requiring specialised equipment for repairs. Farmers were in uproar.

[hexed kayak]

They still are

[pure pond]

yeah some hacked into it to fix it

[hexed kayak]

Farmers dont forget shit. They have lots of time to hold a grudge

[civic spoke]

Would love a BEV truck, but I'm also realistic with that it wouldn't fit my work, unless I only used it at the same place all the time.

And I had the ability to park, and charge it there throughout the nights.

[hexed kayak]

for those with budget issues

[hexed kayak]

i actually want to put one of these motors in a miata and see how fast i cant make it with weight reduction and whatever mods i can find for that stupid thing

[hexed kayak]

its pretty much equal to 1 miata cylinder

[civic spoke]

Thing is, I'm sure EV trucks would save so much in money over diesel.

[hexed kayak]

ev trucks make more sense than ev cars currently

[civic spoke]

This was the Volvo FH that I saw.

[pure pond]

seen a guy put it in a pickup and it could go pretty fast but realy slow in the beginning

[civic spoke]

For local, and same-same routes. Then you can easily live with the shorter range of EV trucks.
But the other issue is also WEIGHT.

[hexed kayak]

@civic spoke ev trucka have the predictable downtime needed to not be affected by charging times.
city trucks dont go far enough to use their range and long haul trucks would only have a range of the legal long haul drviving time and then would be charged by the time the driver is legally allowed to drive again

[pure pond]

the truck that edison is making is also interesting but i dont know if they succeed making customer units any time soon

[hexed kayak]

you will never see one on the road.

its a off road logging truck its not meant to do commercial trucking
so they will only ever be in forests

[civic spoke]

This truck is more or less only allowed to haul 10,000 kg. MAYBE 11,000 kg with a lighter bed.
But that instantly drops by 4,500 kg if you're wanting to drive in the city, or anywhere off the highways.

[pure pond]

they did wanted to make one for the road i believe

[civic spoke]

Time will tell. I'm not holding my breath. tbh

I think they said the truck was around 12,500 kg? I believe.

The Volvo FH above is just shy of 16,000 kg. But it also has a hooklift.

And it's actually in production and road legal.

[hexed kayak]

@civic spoke

[civic spoke]

@hexed kayak @brittle totem https://fixupx.com/ZacksJerryRig/status/1819629709237608764

[hexed kayak]

the fact anyone at all thinks this is an acceptable failure means they are either stupid or biased

[hexed kayak]

there is litrally more cope in the comments of that tweet 💀

[civic spoke]

Oh, I know.

[hexed kayak]

like if my volvo was working rn i would hook it up to my black cobalt and start constantly yanking it to proove a point

[white heart]

You sure talk a lot about your cobalt

[hexed kayak]

i talk about the vehicle i own multiple of. how surprising

[white heart]

Wait you own multiples cobalt ?

[hexed kayak]

i have 3

[brittle totem]

Maybe he should also show that they did right before? it was not like the truck came out from factory brand new and it just snapped. I'm not saying its good but you cant expect the truck to work as indeed after that pretty high fall on hard concrete right on the rear frame of the truck.

[white heart]

Fair enough

[brittle totem]

https://twitter.com/HunterNewberry8/status/1819668670492086670

Hunter Newberry (@HunterNewberry8) on X

@TESLA_winston @ZacksJerryRig This is nothing like hitting a rock. They dropped a 7k pound truck from 7 feet high.
It went 15mph to 0mph instantly.
The force is mindboggleing and no truck is ever made for forces in this directly & this magnitude. Unless you plan on driving your truck off cliffs this is useles

Twitter · Aug 3, 2024, 9:36 AM

[hexed kayak]

posted by a tesla shill

[brittle totem]

Still he is not wrong that what happend right before.

[hexed kayak]

he is wrong. what happened would cause no damage to any other truck on the market

[civic spoke]

Don't care about the Cybertruck. So I'm just going to yeet myself to bed.

G'nite.

[white heart]

He kinda has a point ngl

The tests were almost like beating up a homeless person then making him do sports

[white heart]

Make the person paraplegic to begin with, since the cybertruck is shit anyway

[brittle totem]

It would cause damage to any track.

[hexed kayak]

he really doesnt. there a video of someone dropping a 9000 pound rock on a old ford ranger and the suspension colapses under the weight buy the frame takes it no issues

[white heart]

That doesn't sound really similar (how do you know it had no issues either?)

[hexed kayak]

what is cars chat fucking brain dead today

its a sudden impact of the rear frame of the vehicle

ands the frame didnt snap and fall of so thats how i know it had no issue

[brittle totem]

Yeah but people think its fine because its Tesla this videos are made for fun nothing else you need to be stupid to think that any truck is build to handle such abuse with no issues. Also he didn't do the same test with F150 wonder why... yeah it wouldn't be as good content if they F150 also broke from the same thing.

[white heart]

Did you see it pulling a trailer after ?

[hexed kayak]

yes lmao

[white heart]

[white heart]

I found it funny anyway lol

For our next test, we will remove the wheel of this Ford focus and see if we can beat a lap record on the nuburgring

[brittle totem]

Yeah i watch those videos because they are fun watch you cant take them seriously the whole point is that is supposed to unrealistic.

[white heart]

Like shoving buggy wheels on a Tesla

Imagine showing the Amish folks this

[hexed kayak]

you must live under a rock if you think those durability tests are unrealistic

[white heart]

In what world are you gonna blow up the fucking car or slam it down concrete

[hexed kayak]

it a world where the maker of said truck claims it can survive it

🤡

[white heart]

[brittle totem]

When did tesla officially claim that ?

[hexed kayak]

there a video of him saying it will be an apc for the road.

apcs can survive small bombs

[white heart]

Elon musk is delusional, Tesla official website never quoted that either

[white heart]

It did survive the bombs though ?

[hexed kayak]

yes

[white heart]

It was still running after

[hexed kayak]

so if its capable of surviving bombs what lack of logic are you suffering from that makes you think it cant take a hit from some concrete

[white heart]

A hit is an understatement

[hexed kayak]

you have never used a truck if you think that

[brittle totem]

So if regular trucks are so much better why didn't he try the same thing F150 to prove the point?`like the whole video was about doing the same test to both trucks and specifically skipped doing that F150.

[hexed kayak]

I pulled out this 4500 pound boulder with this truck by flooring it till the tension in the rope ran out. That truck still has its frame

[white heart]

Was the back of the truck body slammed before ?

[hexed kayak]

Yes. I pulled out around 40 rocks the same way cause i got tired if buying new blades for my lawnmower

[white heart]

[hexed kayak]

Like i said you two have just never used a truck for what its actually meant for

[white heart]

Quite a lot of your arguments are "trust me bro"

[hexed kayak]

I shouldnt even have to be making this argument its so fucking stupid

[white heart]

[hexed kayak]

@misty mantle you ever seen a trucks frame snap off from a single impact on concrete?

[white heart]

You keep saying shit like "oh but I pulled this and the truck/car didn't break" submit those trucks to the same amount of abuse and see what happen

[brittle totem]

Just give up if you expect a truck to function as claimed after getting heavily abused something is wrong. I bet he wouldn't say anything if the F150 also failed after doing that test.

[hexed kayak]

Dude that truck has 700k km on it and lived its whole life pulling hay trailers and rocks its seen more abuse than 95% of vehicles that exist

[white heart]

"trust me bro"

I fucking give up

[hexed kayak]

You can literally google videos of 150s pulling trucks and their frame not snapping. How fucking dense are you

Like even jerry rig everything says this failure is complete bullshit

[white heart]

A cybertruck can pull a truck too, just not when it's been fucking abused

[hexed kayak]

stop being brain dead. one again theres video proving this is false

[brittle totem]

Yeah because you average truck falls 7ft down hard concrete every day. If anything this test just showed of well build the batteries are which most people claims are fragile.

[hexed kayak]

do you even know what the average truck does?

[white heart]

Bob, youre able to collect braindead takes like fucking pokémons and seem to be a complete douche on the road, yet you're calling me braindead

You regularly flex being an asshole on the road (blocking people in parking spot, stopping right next to people just to annoy them...)

[brittle totem]

No it shows nothing it wasn't build to handle such hard fall right on the rear frame. And also is approved to tow that much which meant that the passed all of the required tests same as every other truck so its fine as long as you don't abuse it like hell before.

[hexed kayak]

lol what now you are just making shit up

[white heart]

Sure regularly was pushing it, but you did those shits and somehow thought it was a flex and came here (or in tech chat 1) to post it

[hexed kayak]

and this is barley even english

[white heart]

Attacking me on my second language ?

[brittle totem]

Yeah go a to b and to grocery store. Maybe like 30% of the truck owners actually use it for stuff its capable of doing it.

[hexed kayak]

if you are gonna attack me atleast make sure its able to be read

[white heart]

If you're gonna post shit here make sure you ain't saying bullshit first

Attacking me on my grammar cause you ran out of arguments is a dick move

[hexed kayak]

lmao fuck no. like 80% of pickup trucks are sold as part of fleet deals to companies like construction companies mining companies to live their life doing nothing but abusive work

[hexed kayak]

its not grammar. your sentence doesnt even register as readable in my mind. idk what tf you said

[brittle totem]

Abusive work is not the same as Cody did that literally abusive destruction. And no the trucks in the same market as Cybertruck is not used for work i doubt anyone use the Rivian for actually heavy work. And not the top of the line 100k+ Ford or dodge trucks either.

[white heart]

[hexed kayak]

and i know your making this up cause i care too much about my cars getting damaged to even let it get close enough to someone to do this

[civic spoke]

The whole thing with the hitch on the Cybertruck.
It probably cracked something good going off the flatbed, along with those concrete pipes.

Doing that is like taking a 2,000 lb sledge hammer and hitting it straight on the hitch from underneath.

[hexed kayak]

the rear never even touched the ground coming off the flatbed

[civic spoke]

Yeah. Just went back to see if it did. If it went the other way off it, then it probably would have.

Either way. Concrete pipes still stands.

[hexed kayak]

still shoudnt have broke it

dogshit jeeps can take it so a cybertruck should

[civic spoke]

Meh

[hexed kayak]

i probably have multiple videos on an old hdd somewhere of my old xj falling of concrete pipes just like that at the offroad park where i used to live

ill try to find it

[hexed kayak]

one time it fell off the side and rolled over

[brittle totem]

No because it touched the hard concrete instead which is way worse this is right before it slams into it you cant really se it because they cut that part.

[hexed kayak]

once again for the like 15th time. THIS SHOULD NOT COMPROMISE THE FRAME

the fact it did is a massive fucking problem

[brittle totem]

I hope he does the same test with F150 and then we will se what happens i bet he will never do that.

[brittle totem]

And no its major problem because this isn't a thing people do with trucks a regular basis.

[hexed kayak]

how are you not able to understand that hitting a pothole with an 11k pound trailer has more force than that truck hitting concrete

its actualy painful

[brittle totem]

Yeah 7ft fall is the same thing as hitting a pothole 👍

[hexed kayak]

does kinetic energy just not exist in your world?

[misty mantle]

No

[hexed kayak]

these mfs are trying to say that the rear of a cybertrucks frame snapping off when trying to pull out a stuck f-150 is normal because of that impact

[misty mantle]

Wait, this is actually happening?

[hexed kayak]

happened to whistlin diesel 5 mins into his test video

[terse raptor]

I'm selling my mustang, should I buy my dad's 2016 gmc 2500

[brittle totem]

Hitting some concrete is not how you should describe that here is the timestamp https://youtu.be/PK_EJ3DyiiA?si=51e3zVer3uLh5e0c&t=323

[hexed kayak]

and bjoorn is saying an f150s frame would also snap off under the same circumstance

[terse raptor]

He wants a new gas truck

[hexed kayak]

which is truly the dumbest thing ive heard all year

[misty mantle]

Yep, it sure as shit did happen

[terse raptor]

I've pulled someone out rougher in my jeep lol

[brittle totem]

No i didn't i just said that F150 would most likely also be heavily damaged after such an hit.

[terse raptor]

Not frame damage

[misty mantle]

Won't see the frame snapping on a gasser or diesel truck doing that

[hexed kayak]

guy from fucking sweden talking about how durable American pickups are

[terse raptor]

They are though

[misty mantle]

Just adding to how shit the cybertruck truly is

[terse raptor]

Do you have an f150?

[hexed kayak]

one really bad pothole at max towing capacity and i bet the rear of the frame will start to come off some of those trucks

[misty mantle]

Yep, a '16 4x4 with the 5.0

[terse raptor]

You should do one of these

[misty mantle]

I aint got the money

[terse raptor]

Lol

[misty mantle]

Everything my wallet has is going to my Bronco II right now

[terse raptor]

That is a frame swap, you just take your cab and throw it on

[pure pond]

so the hitch is also bolted with ungraded bolts thats just crazy

[hexed kayak]

its wild how the f150 has a model for broke mfs and rich people

[terse raptor]

The base 5.0 already isn't cheap what are yku talking about

https://www.factoryfive.com/xtf/

[misty mantle]

We didn't even pay for it, it was inherited

[hexed kayak]

like you got the base v6 and then shit like the shelby f150

[hexed kayak]

careful not to pull any vehicles with it. your frame might snap

🤡

[misty mantle]

lol

We pulled a expedition out of the snow back when my dad had his work-provided '17

[hexed kayak]

I pulled out over 40 rocks from the ground of roughly this size with my silverado on the farm i used to live on

[misty mantle]

Good 'ol Cateye

[hexed kayak]

on the 20th rock the chain snapped and took out the wheel arch trim on one side of the bed

thats the extent of any damaged that the truck got

that was a scary fucking 5 mins

[misty mantle]

That's better than the chain going through the rear window

[hexed kayak]

i still have it. its about 20 mins from that farm at my grandmas place. its got over 700k km on it

havent seen or driven it in 5 years

[misty mantle]

It would probably fire up if you tossed a battery at it

[hexed kayak]

it was my grandpas and i got it after he died

[misty mantle]

Sorry for your loss

[hexed kayak]

it was almost exactly 10 years ago now

[brittle totem]

Very tough indeed driveshaft of the F150 broke in in first test they did 👍

[misty mantle]

The driveshaft of any gas or diesel truck would have broke if it was just dropped off the back of a flatbed then driven like that

[hexed kayak]

@misty mantle take a close look at the exhaust tip

on the truck

[pure pond]

oke yeah a drive shaft u can break easy with a hit better that than a gearbox or yoke or how that shit is called from a axle

[hexed kayak]

inherited performance parts💪

[hexed kayak]

you could bust a driveshaft with a well placed kick (if your an average bodybuilder) if it really came down to it. all you have to do it get it bent enough thats its out of balance

[pure pond]

yup

[brittle totem]

Yeah it's fine when the fossil trucks breaks but with EV one breaks form even more unrealistic test it's not fine 😂 you can't seriously expect a truck to handle such an amount of abuse and be fine.

[misty mantle]

This is the shit Whislindiesel normally does

[hexed kayak]

you will keep thinking this as long as you live in a place where pickups arent common for work. i dont think ive ever had a job where there wasnt a beat to shit pickup truck that looks like it got hit by an airstrike

[brittle totem]

Yeah I know but the other guy in here claims that the truck should be able to handle such abuse and be fine.

[misty mantle]

Have you even seen the shit that's been going on with the cybertruck

https://www.reddit.com/r/CyberStuck/comments/1cqjx22/the_panel_fell_off_and_there_is_no_frame_its_just/

[brittle totem]

Yeah and that has nothing to do with cybertruck video I don't like that truck at all. But expecting it to handle such abuse is just asking too much.

[brittle totem]

Yeah it's good thing that it will never be legal in Europe.

[hexed kayak]

its really not. elon said he would build a TRUCK any TRUCK could take the abuse in the video. what elon delivered is morbidly obese CAR

[pure pond]

so its not a joke that EVERYTHING is glued on that thing

[hexed kayak]

i wasnt lying

[pure pond]

i realy expected that panel to be bolted

[misty mantle]

Nope, not a joke. And there isn't even any actual frame under the quarter panels, it's all fucking plastic

[brittle totem]

I can guarantee you that it would handle that tow with no issue if they didn't do the unrealistic "offroading" before it.

[hexed kayak]

please explain to me how on earth thats unrealistic

[misty mantle]

I don't think so. And they think a truck towing a jet engine is "impressive," I bet no one at tesla has ever seen GMs truck commercials from the '80s

[hexed kayak]

they are at an offroad park. where you go to offroad close to reality obstacles instead of trails and rocks

[hexed kayak]

also i didnt even think about this before but i hope there is atleast 1/4in of steel between the battery and ground. cause ive seen rocks penetrate through the floor on really bad bottom outs with other offroaders

[misty mantle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ0XbEmskD8

[pure pond]

so where i live the cybertruck can pull max 3.402 kg 7500lbs, that is a lot less. thats what its rated here

[brittle totem]

Yeah because driving on top of poles smashing up the rear constantly and then making it fall off 7ft drop on hard concrete is something every truck drives does on a daily basis 👍

[misty mantle]

My Bronco II and my dad's '23 Bronco go do real off-roading every month

[hexed kayak]

me and the guy i sold my xj to became friends and we take it out every couple months

the frame on that thing has so many fucking dents

[brittle totem]

https://youtu.be/LQBRyR1JGBo?si=VuYdSqdYr1K4HOSL

[hexed kayak]

chevy did this in the 70s

[misty mantle]

My dad's bronco has a nice scratch in the fuel tank

[misty mantle]

That's cute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1-gHqov5w8

[brittle totem]

And?

[hexed kayak]

cars and trucks pulling planes is really old news

[brittle totem]

That wasn't the point...

[pure pond]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6N-zitUQ3M&ab_channel=TheGrandTour this was impressive

[white heart]

I wanted to send that

The almighty c3

[hexed kayak]

its also not really relevant for either the tesla or the old truck shown. all pulling a plane does is demonstrate low end torque and traction. there isnt actually the weight of a plane being being put on the vehicle in a way that matters to its tow rating

[brittle totem]

Yeah how did F150 do again?

[hexed kayak]

it pulled a 1 million pound train

[brittle totem]

Guy claimed that none damaged cybertruck wouldn't be able to pull the F150 out of that...

[hexed kayak]

what part of there never should have been any damage isnt getting into your thick skull

[misty mantle]

I was just scrolling through the wikipedia article for the cybertruck, this was at the bottom before the notes section "Social media:
The Cybertruck is often the subject of mockery on social media.[122] In July 2024, a joke spread on social networks where the Cybertruck is compared to a Citroën C15."

[brittle totem]

We will never know until someone replicates the exact test with F150 and see how it does.

[hexed kayak]

https://youtu.be/jAlIfWcCJdI?t=104

[hexed kayak]

FUCKING GOOGLE IT. theres videos of people doing that shit with f150s you just have to open your eyes and look

[brittle totem]

Yeah I'm also agreeing with cybertruck being 🤡 car but expecting it to handle such abuse it also pretty 🤡

[hexed kayak]

they sell damn near a million of those things every year. just on odds alone you know for sure that someone has done this shit and caught it on video

[white heart]

https://tenor.com/view/voiture-car-gif-13290287

FRANCE MENTIONED

[hexed kayak]

i want one of those.

junkyard trip car

[white heart]

So you can do the C15 du seigneur ?

[pure pond]

if you like rust u really want them

[hexed kayak]

[misty mantle]

It's like the F-150 is the best-selling truck in the U.S or something

[hexed kayak]

im not poor. i can afford to find the one old bastard who still has a nice one

[white heart]

What

[white heart]

You can afford, truth is, can you find one

Finding one in good condition is near impossible

[pure pond]

yeah thats the thing 😂

[white heart]

They have been beat down doing the stupidest shit ever

Let me look up rq the clip I had

[hexed kayak]

ive probably seen it

[brittle totem]

Yeah link a video with the same fall after being smashed up several times before on concrete poles and without any major damages to the frame and also I want to see it towing straight after without any repairs be done in-between.

[hexed kayak]

ive seen like 300 video of those things doing thing thats that would have the designer rolling in their grave

[white heart]

Here is undeniably the coolest stupidest shit ever done with it https://youtu.be/inZBZqZ1TN0?si=SNXDNm40_bps1WFl

[pure pond]

nvm they are pretty easy to get some nice once

[hexed kayak]

thats takes a kind of skill that can only be gained from beer and unemployment

[white heart]

https://youtu.be/2eSSrJZIHXo?si=3tTlgvJoqNg8z_MG

[white heart]

And french farmers being the most idiotic being you'll ever find honestly

Pretty sure my neighbor hit fucking donuts in his once

[pure pond]

idk why but it reminded me of this😂 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBVmXukx_Gk&ab_channel=Piotr92

[hexed kayak]

ngl im conviced people who cant find a car they want just havent looked that hard. excluding the very obvoious examples of cars that are very limited

[white heart]

Accurate

[pure pond]

well some cars can take a while to find. i had to wait a year to find mine

[hexed kayak]

did you want a very specific spec though

[pure pond]

wait u said that nvm

yeah kinda rare one

[white heart]

https://youtube.com/shorts/iLUEVACOfKY?si=WnVgyqnXHUvc2xmW average french farmer before hopping on the road

[white heart]

Every 205 GTI/R5 Turbo around me are essentially shit boxes

[hexed kayak]

like if i said right now. "i want the nicest 2005 manual rhd diesel volvo v70 i can find to import to canada" i could probably find one that meet the criteria in a few hours

[pure pond]

oh yeah for sure

[white heart]

To be fair id prolly crash if I got those cars anyway

[hexed kayak]

depending on age you can actually get pretty low in production numbers before it takes you more than 2 days to fin the right car

[white heart]

Find a R5 Turbo in good state in France. I dare you (all have been tuned to shit or are crashed)

[hexed kayak]

like i have a cobalt ss. if wanted to go and buy a mint low miles summit white turbo ss. (there was only like 2-300 made) i could find one for sale or talk someone into selling within 2 days

[misty mantle]

I don't even know where I'd find a Eddie Bauer Bronco II. I've seen 1, and it was in my local Orileys parking lot. Looked to be in pretty good shape, too

[hexed kayak]

find this raced into the grave homologation rally car in good condition 🤡

[hexed kayak]

next time you see it leave a note asking if thell sell

[misty mantle]

Nah. 1 Bronco II is enough for me

As it is, we've go 3 trucks in the driveway

[hexed kayak]

i found one for sale

nvm i was catfished

[misty mantle]

Scam post?

[hexed kayak]

it said eddie bauer and i got OJ

[misty mantle]

Full size?

[hexed kayak]

wtf is going on with auto trader classics💀 every time i cliock the link its a different bronco

[hexed kayak]

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=eddie+bauer+bronco&_sacat=0&_odkw=eddie+bauer+jacket&_osacat=0

not a 2

[misty mantle]

That's the full-size, I'm talking about the Bronco II

[hexed kayak]

i know

[hexed kayak]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/405135684758?

micro pp

[misty mantle]

My school has one of those sitting in the ag building parking lot. Bone stock with the V10

Eddie Bauer

[hexed kayak]

ive got my eyes on a couple cars at my local auto school

[hexed kayak]

they have an 02 sunfire manual there with 2300km and a 2009 pontiac solstice with the same lnf engine my cobalt has. that car only has 800km on it

im just waiting for them to finally be done with them

[misty mantle]

One of my friends has a manual Sunfire

[hexed kayak]

dont let him sell it

you have no fucking idea how strong those cars are

[misty mantle]

Don't think he's planning on it any time soon, though i do know reverse is on it's way out on his

[stiff bloom]

That's fuckin hilarious. What a piece of junk

[hexed kayak]

its got an f23. its legit like 75$ at the junkyard and a pizza and beer bribe for your friends

[misty mantle]

I dunno what transmission it has. All I know is it's a manual Sunfire

[hexed kayak]

they were all getrag f23s

[misty mantle]

Oh

I'll tell him next time I see him

[stiff bloom]

If it's a manual it's an f23. The only other gm trans manual is a f40 and no sunfire has that

[hexed kayak]

the f35:

[stiff bloom]

Oh sorry yeah there's a garbage one too

[misty mantle]

I don't really know much about GM cars. I only really know the GMT-400 and squarebody trucks

[hexed kayak]

sunfire didnt get that one either. but both will work in it

[stiff bloom]

Fair enough. I just try to forget that the 35 exists 🤣

[hexed kayak]

the difference between the f40,f35 and the f23 though when you need a tranmission is swapping in an f40 is like 2500 all in.
f35 is like 1500 all in and the f23 is what i already said

there wasnt many saabs built with an f40 so they are rare and all the braindead idiots blew up all the f35s in the cobalts

[hexed kayak]

is your hhr auto

[misty mantle]

Anyway, I'ma go have a very, very late lunch then go build some lego

[hexed kayak]

id rather have my 400hp connected to a transmission made of plastic than that poopy 4 speed

[stiff bloom]

Nah manual. I'm just waiting for gear 3 to give up the ghost tho 🙃

[hexed kayak]

it never will if you dont shift it like a bozo

it should live through anything under 450ish hp as long as you arent slam shifting it and actually rev match properly

people come from hondas with their sloppy shifters into these cars and dont realize the shifter is certified ass and then they shred the gears

@stiff bloom

[misty mantle]

Gimme a minute, I'll find the video I got of my transmission after it grenaded and what it sounded like from outside the truck before it grenaded

[stiff bloom]

Well I was more referring to the case flex issues that could shred 3rd. Don't worry, I double clutch like I should 👍🏼

[misty mantle]

Nvm, think I deleted those videos

[hexed kayak]

Destroy the evidence

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C-E_KI_xoyi/?igsh=Nzd6ZThjem5jdWhi

interestingasfukk

The exhaust 💀 This racing wheel & setup.
Hell yeah !
#cars #carstagram #trending #reels #trendingreels #trending #tokyodrift #hellyeah

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This is fucking crazy @misty mantle @stiff bloom

[misty mantle]

If there's supposed to be a image here, I can't see it and the instagram website won't load for some reason

[stiff bloom]

And he's using it to play fucking asphalt

[cold cypress]

how do lexus LSes hold their value so well while also having the milage to have gone to the moon and come back again

like seriously

[pure pond]

because when they where new they costed around 140k

[misty imp]

I love watching old adverts of my car

[vocal mural]

14900 on Mobile.de?

[cold cypress]

yup

[stoic ledge]

Actually very reasonable for an LS 600h

[civic spoke]

Welp. Parts ordered for my car.
Bought three window regulators, along with stuff for an oil change.
Going to replace the window regulators in the front as well. Since those are having issues going up when it gets colder.

[terse raptor]

Do you live where it gets cold enough to freeze?

Then I wouldn't

[brave egret]

Yaaa opening up coolant could be a big pressure reales best to wait for engine to cool down

[young fox]

Dang you can get them for way cheaper here

Can't find a "ls 600", but 2008 ls460 with 229KKM is 6100eur here

[elfin stone]

Look what I got freshly from Australia

[civic spoke]

Gotta love private customers.

[misty imp]

Should I buy new rims or new coilovers?

[white heart]

What rims you got rn

And are the coilovers you have rn decent

[misty imp]

both stock

pretty much the bog standard rims

[white heart]

I'd go with coilovzr tbh

Correct me if I'm wrong but getting better one would improve the comfort no ,

?

[misty imp]

probably

[white heart]

Then get some nice coilovers

Comfort > looks

[civic spoke]

I replaced my springs and shocks before I did my wheels.

Suspension, brakes, and tires are the big three for upgrades.

[misty imp]

I want to convert my rear drums to disc

[charred depot]

Kinda a pointless endeavour on small cars

[civic spoke]

Drums are still really good brakes. Tbh

[pure pond]

I want to change to disc and the only reason is because when i go offroading all the sand goes in the drum and grinds everything

But its expensive so i just wait till the drums are gone

[pure pond]

💀

[mossy steeple]

I have a question about my daily. I am slowly learning about cars but idk how to identify this. I drive a 2014 Veloster turbo and when I cold start it I can hear it sputter as the rpm’s ramp down. Sometimes it’s worse than others. The engine never dies but it makes skipping sounds idk how to describe it lol. Question number 2. I want to do my first performance mod which is a cold air intake. Do I need to replace the entire tube system or just the box with the filter in it?

[misty mantle]

They’re good brakes, sure. But they’re a pain in the ass to work on

[misty mantle]

If it’s one of those cheapo Amazon “cold air” intakes, don’t. All those cheap ones do is suck in hot air

[mossy steeple]

Do you have any recommendations?

Something that’s not crazy expensive but not a cheapo

[misty mantle]

See if a company like K&N has a kit for your car

I know they do a wide range of filters and intake kits

[mossy steeple]

Cool cool

[misty mantle]

My parents both run their engine and cabin air filters in their cars, and I run one of their oil filters in my ATV

[violet meteor]

what hose is this

[pure pond]

looks like a coolant hose

was that your problem now?

[violet meteor]

Yes

Apparrently the mechanic said this is the culprit of all my coolant issues

any idea if this is expensive repair?

[charred depot]

Its a hose and looks to have access, probably not but its already at a mechanic so surely they are going to give you a price?

[violet meteor]

yeah but tomorrow :/

anyway its crazy

i have used 30 liters of water

in 10kms

[charred depot]

tends to happen when there is a leak

[pure pond]

that hoseclamp isnt great also

[civic spoke]

Likely to be coolant. Looks to be oil soaked, too.

[violet meteor]

oil?

[pure pond]

coolant hose dont like oil they kinda expand and fail

[civic spoke]

Some oil could have been gotten to it over the years. And hoses don't like that too much, they become brittle or something. Could be why it's currently failing, tbh

[violet meteor]

oh, anyway i am very happy

I thought its head gasket

[civic spoke]

Whole area seems to be covered in oil as well. So who knows where that's from.

If you have the option, then look at cleaning that off so that you know where it's coming from.

[pure pond]

for sure the turbo line its pretty common place for these

but also looks kinda old oil. doesnt really like it leaking anymore

[charred depot]

looks a prety standard level of grot for a diesel to be honest heh

[civic spoke]

Thought this as well. Which is why you might not want to remove the old oil stains.

[violet meteor]

hmm

[civic spoke]

It's one of those situations where you don't want to disturb the bear that's sleeping.

[pure pond]

mine looks worse 😂 its always dripping oil

[violet meteor]

:)))

[charred depot]

It does suprise me that VAG would still be using jubilee's there almost as if its been replaced before, would expect spring clamps which treat the hose a bit better.

[pure pond]

maybe done by the previous owner

[civic spoke]

Tbh. I would still want to clean it up to see where the oil is coming from.

But I just know that it means more repairs.

[violet meteor]

Tbf i had a intercooler hose pop up a few months ago

but i have this car only since january

[civic spoke]

Oblivious is bliss.

[violet meteor]

😼

[civic spoke]

Ignorance is bliss. That's the saying. Forgot about it for a second.

Out of sight, out of mind.

Just leave the hood closed, and never open it.

[violet meteor]

Also somehow my windshield wiper fluid tank broke too 💀

[pure pond]

and put a sticker on the check engine light

[violet meteor]

delete it from vcds 🧠

[violet meteor]

Is patching it smart?

i love vws

[charred depot]

not much consequence if it doesent work, but I would just buy a replacement why waste time.

[pure pond]

thats fine to patch but i dont think it expensive

[civic spoke]

Replacing the windshield fluid tank is easy, depending on the car. Or maybe it's a hose from it that's leaking.

[violet meteor]

I havent thought about hoses but it seems its leaking even with car off

[charred depot]

I dug this peugeot out of this corner where it had been last on the road in 2012, its my daily driver at the moment with minimal issues : )

[violet meteor]

wow any big repairs?

[charred depot]

No, but I fitted a different engine as I wanted more power when I put it back on the road

Sold the original for more than I paid for the turbo diesel engine.

[violet meteor]

damn

put raptor paint on it and its brand new

[charred depot]

I painted it blue for £50

[civic spoke]

"No big repairs. Only switched out the engine."

[charred depot]

I could have left it alone but yknow

[violet meteor]

:))))

[charred depot]

the original went into another car

[civic spoke]

To be fair. Changing out an engine in those older cars is a lot easier than anything modern.

[violet meteor]

Have you had any problems with it?

Nah, recently just swapped the engine the gearbox it works like a charm

[pure pond]

if its a xud you need like 4 wires to get it started i believe

[charred depot]

running on 12 year old red diesel : )

[pure pond]

does that one have a belt driven vacuum pump?

[charred depot]

Yeah still does, got a gearbox bracket off a 405.

cause turbo manifold doesent have mount for it

[civic spoke]

Plot twist. No coolant running through the engine.

[charred depot]

It would still show

[pure pond]

mine is on the camshaft so i found it weird to see

[charred depot]

I prefer the camshaft setup, will be going to that eventually

Just the shims you have to order from germany so its a big faff to change cams.

[civic spoke]

Replacing my window regulator is going to be fun.

[charred depot]

Its a really early turbo engine on like triple the mileage of the car so I am being gentle with it

[violet meteor]

how many kms it has?

The whole car

[charred depot]

the engine will be nearly 500k km the car is 200k km

[violet meteor]

damn it looks rough for 200

[charred depot]

mileage doesent really matter when a car sits in a field

[violet meteor]

fair

[charred depot]

and it is red

or was

[violet meteor]

I mean the rust and etc

[charred depot]

Its solid.

it is a 40 year old car in Scotland and more sound than 10-20 year old VAG stuff.

this is my other one on 260k km

[misty imp]

Visibility is overrated anyways

[white heart]

Avg British weather innit

[white heart]

How tf do you even see the road now tho

[civic spoke]

Send it.

[misty imp]

that's the fun part

you don't

you only get like 10m visibility

and this is in the mountain

one mistake and you're literally tumbling

[charred depot]

You just drive to what you can see, the same as driving on a winding B road where you cant see what is ahead but people seem to have a false sense of security in that situation vs fog.

[solid tide]

Is anybody near modesto california looking for some hubcaps from a 1966 corvette, or tires for a 1964 chevelle malibu ss? we have some for sale. look on facebook marketplace in a few days if you want them

[woeful nacelle]

buying a 2024 honda civic sport touring soon. anything i should know about it mechanically?

[civic spoke]

Road doesn't exist if you can't see it.

[white heart]

Scary

[misty imp]

driving on a back road at night is unironically better than driving in a fog

back roads are usually empty, and if it isn't you can usually see them quite far away and respond accordingly

but fog? fuck no

[misty imp]

that's nothing, still workable and barely any stakes

This however

[charred depot]

Dont have many photos but we get alot of freak fog like this that comes and goes fairly quick can functionally do about 10mph without gambling.

[misty imp]

ours hang around all day

specially in winter

it's fog / low clouds

[misty imp]

even worse if it's one of those idiotic german cars with matrix lights

they're the fucking worse

it's like they're min maxing blinding the oncoming traffic

[charred depot]

Seen weird behaviour quit a few times like that at 12 seconds which ive always assumed is a matrix system or similar and its just too slow to handle turning off the segments when a cars coming around a bend.

[deep vigil]

Hey my friend needs help and neither of us can figure anything out, their car is making this rapid clicking noise, jumping the car isnt doing anything

2019 nissan altima, i tried looking up like clicking sound, ticking noise, blinking etc and its all over the place :/

[misty imp]

I hope they ban or limit LED lights because they're honestly so fucking ridiculous

[misty imp]

the clicking sounds like solenoids going crazy or starter motor being angry

[deep vigil]

they kicked the wheel as i advised and boosted it a few more times and it started for now but i expect it to happen again :/

hopefully they have enough to get it somewhere though

[misty imp]

tbf the battery could also just be borked

check that as well

[deep vigil]

they had issues before with their alternator which is why they had everything ready to jump it, this was the first time it didnt just accept it

[misty imp]

alternator probs not providing enough power back to the battery when it's running

suggest your friend to avoid short trips until they can fix it

Or alternatively keep the engine running and driving

do some altima activities get that battery charged

[deep vigil]

will do, theyre gonna get it looked at after work if they can

[white heart]

We rarely get fog here, last time there was fog, around 5 people crashed near my town lol

[misty imp]

oh fogs are a regular thing here

pretty much a given during winter

[white heart]

You live on a island no ?

Near Britain

I live close to the border or Germany/swiss

[misty imp]

yes

[karmic plume]

I am not too knowledgeable in cars but what is a good value budget ev? i found a bmw i3 for around $9k, is that good? are there other good budget evs that i should look for?

[white heart]

That sound quite cheap for the car, I wouldn't personally get an ev if you're on a budget tho

[dull cedar]

The lights being LED is not the issue AT ALL, it's just shitty designs being shit

[misty imp]

always look around the battery health of the actual car itself, sometimes the batteries costs more than the actual car itself so ensure that it is in good condition

@karmic plume is E golf out of your budget or?

goes so fucking hard acc

[dull cedar]

Generally the cheap ev people go for is a Nissan leaf. I certainly wouldn't trust even a new bmw i3 lol

[white heart]

Clean.

[misty imp]

it's already discontinued for quite a while now as well

honestly would rather go for plug in hybrid

[bitter compass]

It's the brighter and more range arms race, which yes is better for the driver seeing stuff but worse for everyone else. The cars getting higher and stupider. And the blueish light feeling harder on the eyes compared to the yellowish

[vocal mural]

I have legal LED H4
(Osram)

[civic spoke]

Sucks that their H7 aren't compatible with my E46

[copper salmon]

She livessss

[white heart]

I fucking hate led car they can somehow blind me while I'm biking cause my head is at lights(on most SUVs)

[charred depot]

transverse engine no electric fan

french engineering gets it done

I was liking this 305 but it is some fucked up combination of phase 1 and phase 2, would need alot of modification and welding to mount a XU type engine.

Might happen dunno

[cold cypress]

i have legal 9012s (temu)

[charred depot]

Maybe, but elevation constantly changes on roads here so even if they were setup perfectly you will still have them in your eyes alot theres no way around it unless cars accounted for geography ahead which isnt going to happen.

When a old halogen dipped beam gets in your eyes its not that bad.

as an extreme example nothings going to stop headlights of cars up here blinding cars below, not a big deal if its halogen lights but xenon or leds will be quite painful.

[dull heron]

meguiars makes magic

[boreal garnet]

Thought I'd show off the stock to not with the orange brick

[livid yew]

Hey guys, I have a 2014 Honda accord coupe ex-l v6 with 127k miles and I'm looking for some new pads and rotors for all 4 corners, any recommendations at a reasonable price that offer some improvement over stock? My pedal feels soft, to where i need to press the pedal to about or a little more than half pressure to feel any bite, and my rotors are warped.

i do notice a small lip between the edge of the rotor and where the pads make contact

[stiff bloom]

I've always upgraded to stoptech and had good experiences. They've been excellent value for money for me. Hopefully they make em for that car tho I don't see why they wouldn't

[hexed totem]

vroom vroom skrtt brrr woosh

[tribal current]

Operation saving private z is going well

[charred depot]

thats me standing on the brakes heh

[fathom socket]

I'm not great at handy work type of stuff but I want different exhaust tips on my muffler, am I able to just cut the muffler at this point and attach new one with a clamp or would it not be strong enough?

[native ermine]

if you just want new exhaust tips you can easily get them as slip ons. the picture you shared is of a muffler assembly which you could attach to your existing down pipe. would just need to make sure the diameter of either pipe fits inside the other

then a clamp would probably do

also to make sure that the hangers line up properly so your not dragging the exhaust on the ground

[fathom socket]

I already got that muffler and new exhaust setup just want new tips

thx for the info

and ye the way I phrased it was odd. Lol like buying a muffler to just get the tips off, nah

@native ermine but would u think it has enough room for the clamp to stay on neatly?

[native ermine]

it depends, a lot of the time exhaust tips have a retention screw that just is pressure tight. if your really worried about it falling off tho you can always drill a hole into the stock tip underneath.

[fathom socket]

True thx

[native ermine]

[stiff bloom]

https://www.motor1.com/news/729265/toyota-gr-corolla-warranty-claims-weird-reasons/

at some point in the car’s life it sent out a data packet that included the car’s speed. They won’t tell me when or where so I don’t know how relevant it is, but they said the car had gone 114 mph and that is abuse of the vehicle. They don’t care that the car comes with a track day, it’s abused as soon as it’s over a certain speed

[dull cedar]

Certified American Toyota moment

[stiff bloom]

Not a great look, considering how much their reputation depends on reliability

Yet another reason I will never buy a car with a data connection, or if I do I'm going to rip that shit out so hard

[civic spoke]

If it's abuse to go over a certain speed, then it shouldn't be able to go that speed to begin with.

[stiff bloom]

whats extra funny is that it has a speed limiter... at 130

[dull cedar]

Based on the honestly shit information in the article, I'll assume they've had their cars tuned poorly, and it's backfired (pun intended) on them

Holes in the block don't just happen.... The G16E is known to be pretty damn strong

[charred depot]

Denying warranty or whatever on a modern car for going 114mph would be wild.

[dull cedar]

I mean, if your insurance knew you were doing 114mph and crashed, they'd probably deny your claim

[charred depot]

yeah but like theres crashing at 114mph and driving 114mph

[stiff bloom]

But manufacturing defects do... That's why warranties exist.

[stiff bloom]

esp on a performance car, and ESP ESP when the car comes with a track day with the car's purchase

[charred depot]

leaving my unit on a private track if you have a tonne car over like 140hp you can reach over 100 on it and its legal, I wouldnt expect insurance to pay if I went flying into a field but if I had a car with warranty I would expect it still to be valid.

[stiff bloom]

Yeah, the cause of the damage is a huge factor. Toyota's response mentioning the damage but citing the speed as the inciting factor is key i think

[stiff bloom]

We'll see as more comes out, but I'm keen to not be so sure about this. Most tunes void warranties, so Toyota would have had reason to deny them coverage on this basis instead of the speed thing

[tepid wing]

Oh speaking of this BS, does anyone know how I could go about finding the cell modem in my car?

[cold cypress]

could it be intergrated in the head unit?

[civic spoke]

Could be the trunk

[tepid wing]

No idea honestly. There has to be a way to find this information online right? There are repair manuals and junk after all.

[cold cypress]

definitely, what car?

[tepid wing]

2023 Chevy Bolt 2LT

[cold cypress]

this could help you out https://www.gmupfitter.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/23_Bolt_EV_Body_Builder_SM_en_US_2022AUG26.pdf

[tepid wing]

I'll have to look through that later, thanks.

[cold cypress]

you're welcome! you could also ask in a forum about bolts, will probably give you more info than i can

[civic spoke]

Know of a guy who got himself additional driving assist for his Chevy.

Basically a camera you install, and then it's wired into the car. Controls the steering and everything.

[tepid wing]

It's basically a phone and it's really cool.

[civic spoke]

This thing. https://www.comma.ai/shop/comma-3x

[tepid wing]

I ordered it pretty much as soon as I got the car.

[civic spoke]

@indigo coral

[indigo coral]

Hell yeah

Love my comma3x

Highly recommend installing FrogPilot instead of standard Openpilot

[tepid wing]

I'm fine with stock.

[indigo coral]

It's an enormous improvement adding a new longitudinal planner

[civic spoke]

Sounds like getting it is a hard pill to swallow with the price. But well worth it if you're driving a lot.

[tepid wing]

I mean, it's a car part and this is so cheap compared to

Oh, and you get to bring the expensive part to your next car too.

It costs $200 for a new harness.

I've gone on a couple of road trips and go on the freeway nearly every day, worth every cent.

[indigo coral]

Yeah it's fantastic

I drive 90mi a day on the freeway and a lot of stop and go traffic and it's wonderful

[tepid wing]

The DM can sometimes flag me when I'm paying attention but that's the main issue I have.

[charred depot]

I know someone round here has a self driving oldish smart roadster with comma ai.

They had to replace some of the steering stuff from another car along with the brake unit from a tesla.

Interesting project but eh

[cold cypress]

woah this is insane it works with lots of cars too

[white heart]

Is that legal in Europe ? I'm pretty sure France still has auto driving banned

[cold cypress]

its legal if they dont find out

it basically works like acc though, no?

[tepid wing]

For most cars you just plug in a little box.

[white heart]

Sound like a good way to get trouble

[charred depot]

have to be pretty new

[cold cypress]

meh, police wont care here, they dont even know what acc is

[cold cypress]

oldest to support is 2014

[charred depot]

yeah theres outliers but for the most part its going to be 2020 onwards

[white heart]

In France good chance you'll lose your driving license if they haven't changed the regulations on self driving

[charred depot]

smart roadster I seen it adapted to was like a 2002 car but needed a fair bit of work.

[white heart]

Actually nvm

You're allowed self driving if you are still ready to take over

[cold cypress]

this isnt really self driving though

lmfaooo

did lka just give up there

[tepid wing]

Generally within like 10 years there are options.

[white heart]

Is that Russia

[charred depot]

Id gamble france or similar.

[white heart]

They do not speak french

[pure pond]

u dont have to be french to be in france

[white heart]

Those signs also don't really look like french signs

We never use green for signalisation

So yeah that does not look like France

[charred depot]

Hard to tell off the slither of road sign, maybe in romania or similar.

Yeah video looks to be from Romania

[tepid wing]

How unreasonable would it be to pull the battery out of my car in 10 years and use it on my house? 🤔

[wraith rivet]

I noticed at my friends house on their steep driveway, when I’m in drive at a standstill on a hill and let off the brakes

The car stays completely still like the brakes are still clamped down

then like 5 seconds later it starts rolling

I don’t have hill start assist or anything (unless it’s somehow automatic) could it be a pad sticking or something?

same thing happened today in a drive through that had a slight downhill, in neutral I can take foot off brake completely and it doesn’t roll at all

[misty imp]

[native ermine]

lmao i love how he grabs the steering wheel afterwards. like... i don't think your going anywhere buddy

[violet meteor]

(cold)

too much coolant?

[pure pond]

there is a max and a low level

it should be on there somewhere

[violet meteor]

i only have min and its under that middle ring

[pure pond]

i remember its the plastic line thats the max

[violet meteor]

hmm should i take out or leave it

[pure pond]

if you can just do it but i dont really think it would hurt anything

[native ermine]

the forbidden Kool aid

[stiff bloom]

No, it'll be fine. The point of that bottle even is to hold excess coolant. The fact that you have one means that it's pressurized, which means any excess will vent naturally if there's too much, the worst consequence of which will be a slight mess that will evaporate and stain stuff but not cause any problems. Tho I'd only expect that to happen if the line of coolant were a couple cm away from the top when cold tbh

[stiff bloom]

https://www.carscoops.com/2024/08/2024-dodge-charger-daytona-pricing-starts-at-59595/

HOLEY SHMOLEY

I could not IMAGINE paying nearly $60k for a base charger

[pure pond]

cheaper than a model s

or at least very similar

[limber whale]

https://tenor.com/view/honda-jumpscare-meme-text-gif-25090782

[limber whale]

looks like a camaro and a challenger had a child

climate controls are now dedicated buttons instead of dials fuck the challenger now

[tepid wing]

Aren't they a touch expensive in the first place? So slapping EV on that makes them more so, but you save on maintenance and fuel down the road.

[tepid wing]

I have a car with buttons and it's not too bad, dials are better but not as bad as a screen.

[limber whale]

theres blowing a motor and then theres blowing a motor

[tepid wing]

I feel like replacing a motor would be easier than replacing an engine.

[stiff bloom]

What a race to the bottom when you're comparing against a tesla 😂

[tepid wing]

It's probably a better car than the Tesla.

[stiff bloom]

Well for the longest time they were the budget choice for fullsize sedans. No clue how they compare recently, but even as late as 2020 they were the cheapest way to get a v8

Tho the interiors have never been anything above godawful

[tepid wing]

Most things are better than Tesla interiors.

[stiff bloom]

One of the lone exceptions are dodge interiors 😂

[limber whale]

panel gaps lol

[tepid wing]

Do they have stalks?

[stiff bloom]

Yeah, and they're only some of the worst in the industry

tho i will say still better than tesla there

[tepid wing]

Yeah Tesla doesn't have them so that's a win.

Power is provided by a dual motor all-wheel drive system that produces 456 hp (340 kW / 462 PS) and 404 lb-ft (547 Nm) of torque. However, a PowerShot feature can increase the output to 496 hp (370 kW / 503 PS) for 15 seconds at a time.
Double the price of my car for double the motors and over double the specs.

[stiff bloom]

still the seats are easily a loss, the plastics are far worse, and the infotainment is horrendous. Plus they fall to pieces like nothing short of a Hyundai Accent

[stiff bloom]

What's your car?

[tepid wing]

2023 Chevy Bolt 2LT, 200 HP and a bit over 200 Lb-Ft.

[stiff bloom]

ah that makes sense

[tepid wing]

Knowing that the price is actually pretty good, that's basically linear.

[stiff bloom]

Yeah i guess if power is your only metric, it's okay.

Plus it probably weighs double your bolt too, win win 😂

[tepid wing]

I'm just trying to say the price isn't that bad.

[stiff bloom]

Oh it sure could be worse

But if your metric is anything other than power, I still think it's pretty bad

[tepid wing]

That article doesn't seem to have a weight but it looks like the acceleration is better, so it's probably not double the weight but it's definitely heavier.

[dull heron]

i dont think ev's are bad but i think dodge banking on all EVs is a bad move

[tepid wing]

They are so good though.

[dull heron]

its not really sustainable for most companies though.

and EV interest is declining right now

[tepid wing]

Weird.

I'm super happy with mine and it's the best car I've driven....

[dull heron]

what do you have? what else have you had

[tepid wing]

I've driven a 2010 manual Cobalt, 2013 Equinox and a 2023 Bolt.

[dull heron]

oh well that makes sense

not a very inspiring list of cars

[tepid wing]

The first two I didn't own and the Bolt was just the cheapest EV.

[dull heron]

oh so they are just cars youve driven?

not cars youve lived with

[tepid wing]

I've lived with them, family cars.

[dull heron]

gotcha

[tepid wing]

I've been a passenger in some convertible I don't remember, a Montana, 23 RAV4, a box Kia and a few other one shots.

[dull heron]

ive driven quite the list of vehicles, and lived with a few as well

[tepid wing]

The silence of the EV is a huge win for me.

[dull heron]

i aim for cars that are more fun than comfortable, big reason im not a big fan of evs

[tepid wing]

I can't believe I was nearly hit at a gas station today. .-.

EVs are fun though? You press the pedal and they really go.

[stiff bloom]

Bolt is a really good car. Super cheap, good power and practicality, and excellent quality for what is really an economy car

I have very little faith that the charger will be better in any way other than power, and tbh they have proven in the past that they're usually worse

[dull heron]

My current: Jetta GLI
Lived with: 2009 F150, 2019 F150, Jeep Grand Cherokee, Multiple Corollas, 1979 Ford bronco

driven: long list but ill seperate what i remember

What I enjoyed:
Mini cooper
jetta TDI
VW atlas
VW tiguan
tacoma

what i did not enjoy:
chevy spark
chevy malibu
buick
prius

ive driven quite a few more but nothing influential enough to make the list

[tepid wing]

I haven't been that fortunate.

I don't have room for another car which is unfortunate.

[dull heron]

im around a lot of people with cars most of the time, most of these came from a recent fundraiser driving dealership cars

the only car i own is a jetta gli

[tepid wing]

You've still driven a lot of cars.

[dull heron]

you end up where you put yourself

[tepid wing]

I'm trying to get enough money to have more control over that.

[dull heron]

if you keep putting in the effort you will find yourself where you want to be.

my next car will probably be manual tbh, i like the jetta as a daily but i need something more fun

so im thinking either project car or maybe a bike

[tepid wing]

My next car is hypothetically a project car.

[dull heron]

im trying not to do too much to the jetta while its my only car

[tepid wing]

The only mod I have is a Comma.

[dull heron]

all i did was get a software tune for the ECU and TCU

[tepid wing]

I want to get some super pedestrian car and make it into an electric sleeper.

No range but fun.

[dull heron]

my two candidates for a next vehicle are a kawasaki 600/650cc or a porsche 911 996

[tepid wing]

Yeah that's a way different direction.

[dull heron]

lmao

[tepid wing]

I'm thinking a Civic or Corolla or something understated like that.

[dull heron]

yeah the porsche 996 is a car from like 1997-2006 i believe, kawasaki is a bike. i dont know a ton about bikes yet but they seem fun

[tepid wing]

I don't plan on ever getting a motorcycle.

I had one do some lane splitting around me today and that makes me so nervous.

I gotta go do stuff.

[dull heron]

this is my car

fun to drive ✅
can drive for fun? ❌

thus i dont think i would want an ev currently. it wouldnt change anything about that

evs are cool because foot on floor go brr, but i want something i can take out to have a great time. i think a porsche or bike would do that since porsche 911 is thought of as the best engineered car, while a bike is just little weight for the power given

[tepid wing]

I wonder what people like you would think about the upcoming Toyotas.

They have someone like that in charge of the fake manual EVs IIRC.

[dull heron]

toyota isnt making EVs

they only do gas and hybrids

[tepid wing]

https://www.toyota.com/electrified-vehicles/

They have EVs.

[dull heron]

but i did hear about that manual thing, it does sound interesting. the kind of thing that doesnt make much sense but is an added comfort. Like how CVTs simulate gear shifts instead of just continuously changing

[tepid wing]

Mostly in European countries though.

[dull heron]

ah i see

yeah i know they dont do ev in NA

or USA at least

[tepid wing]

If their solid state battery tech pans out I might end up with a Toyota for my next car in a decade+.

They have like one or two now.

[dull heron]

another reason i wouldnt really want an EV is just cause i normally buy second hand cars

[tepid wing]

My family has had really bad luck with them.

[dull heron]

i would not buy a brand new car unless it was something really special.

i dont live in the rust belt and i know how to build a car so im not worried about buying used

[tepid wing]

The last second hang car we got had the transmission blow up within a year of getting it, before that I don't remember because I was too young.

I was up in prime rust belt territory.

[dull heron]

yeah doesnt seem fun

but i wouldnt really buy a used EV, because of battery health. so theres almost no reason for me to get one

[tepid wing]

Yeah that's a valid concern.

Apparently the Bolt one can stand some abuse but I'm not going to test that.

Because that could just be dumb luck and they happened to get a golden battery pack.

The plan for this one is to eventually replace the battery with a new better one and hopefully find a nice motor swap to make it more powerful because 10+ years of development would have happened.

[dull heron]

well lithium batteries degrade over time

[tepid wing]

Yeah.

I have an 8 year 100K warranty on it so I'm not too worried, but I'm not expecting miracles either.

[dull heron]

not even worth that kind of upgrade. they dont make EVs to be modular and upgradable, no point in going through that effort for a chevy bolt imo

8 years and only 100k miles?

thats weird

ehhh wait no that does sound right

[tepid wing]

I'm pretty sure that's the warranty.

[dull heron]

yeah, i forgot its typically 12k miles a year warranty

[tepid wing]

It's not exactly meant for cross country even though it can do it.

[dull heron]

charging times would add up and be quite unfortunate

[tepid wing]

They aren't too bad.

It's like 30-50 minutes every few hours, it's enough driving time that I need to get a little walking in by the time I need to charge.

[dull heron]

its not impossible but not ideal

although you would need to carefully plan your route

much of the US is rural and doesnt have charging stations

like i would probably take the i40 instead of the i80, i80 can be dead af at times

[tepid wing]

I've done a couple of 300 mile road trips already.

[dull heron]

300mi is nothin tbh, thats like 8 hours

[tepid wing]

Worst case you do L1 and this car gets a good amount of charge from it overnight so you can plan around it. Often you can do L2 at trailer parks and similar places too.

Yeah, but it's enough to require some L3 charging and the furthest I've driven so far.

[dull heron]

oh i figured you would want to do L3 at charging stations

[tepid wing]

I got onto freeways like 4 months ago.

[dull heron]

oh wow so you are a new driver

[tepid wing]

Ideally yes, but if you don't have that option you can get creative because it's just electricity.

[tepid wing]

No, I just wasn't allowed to take the family cars on the freeway.

[dull heron]

how old are you?

[tepid wing]

Too old for this BS but I don't have enough money to get out of it just yet.

[dull heron]

im 19, ive been driving for 4 years, although 90% of my miles have come from the past year

lots of road trips and traveling around town

[tepid wing]

I've had my license for like, 8 or 9 years at this point.

Oh yeah going a couple of hours across town doesn't bother me at all.

[dull heron]

every weekend i typically go up to the mountains to go hiking

[tepid wing]

Oh that sounds very nice.

[dull heron]

thats usually like 60 miles one way??

[tepid wing]

It's so hot here that I either do that in the morning (not mountains) or suffer.

[dull heron]

yeah thats why i escape to mountains

its 104 rn at its 6pm

and yeah usually morning too, its like 60-70f up there

[tepid wing]

Texas is pretty freaking hot.

I wake up at 5:30 for work so it's not a huge issue for me to go.

[dull heron]

i live in one of the hottest cities in the US

[tepid wing]

I grew up in Michigan.

The farthest park I've gone to is only 20 miles.

[dull heron]

sounds like you need to do more driving

[tepid wing]

Eh, I need to find places to go.

[dull heron]

the US is one of the best places to live to find stuff to do

interesting stuff in every state

except like, iowa

[tepid wing]

Or Arkansas unless you were in a couple specific places.

[dull heron]

i think arkansas has a lot of historical stuff though

[tepid wing]

I should go visit more of the museums around here.

They have a big famous mud pit.

[dull heron]

i started rock climbing to get out of the house more, i found a climbing gym nearby, and thats where i go most rn

im actually there right now studying

[tepid wing]

Oh fun.

[tepid wing]

I'm mad that my schools didn't teach me that stuff but work and life takes up so much that I either need to study math, study programming stuff to try to get a job in my field or go do my own fun things so my mental health is better.

I'm trying to teach myself linear algebra stuff right now.

[dull heron]

lots of good resources for that, im learning calculus right now for my engineering degree

i dont believe i need linear algebra because i tested out of it

[tepid wing]

Yeah I'm probably going to need to learn that at some point, apparently lambda calculus is useful.

I need to be able to do matrix math and junk which is apparently just linear algebra scaled up.

[dull heron]

if you need help with mental health theres two big things that I find most important. Physical fitness directly co-relates to mental fitness, as well as finding a third place. third place other than your home and work. could be a bar, gym, park, any place to socialize that you enjoy spending time at.

[tepid wing]

Yeah I need to find that. I'm planning on going to a Yu-Gi-Oh! tournament this weekend.

[dull heron]

card shops are also good for that

i got into MTG for a bit and learned about a few local card shops that hold games and tournaments

[tepid wing]

My deck is very silly but it should be decent.

It didn't cost me an arm and a leg but man a couple of expensive cards would be nice to have.

[dull heron]

but yeah id definitely recommend checking places like that out.

for physical fitness i think hikes are most enjoyable tbh, but i also do weightlifting, calisthenics, and rock climbing

[tepid wing]

I have access to dumbbells, I need to figure them out.

[dull heron]

getting started is the worst part, it gets easy and then fun afterwards

anyway, cars are cool

i want to get back to performance stuff at some point because ive really only done cosmetics on my jetta, although i got 4 new tires yesterday and they feel amazing

[tepid wing]

Cars are cool and I'm naturally strong enough that I don't need to get stronger even for work. Even though I'm occasionally handling hundreds of pounds of servers. .-.

Oh yeah tires are critical.

I'm going to have to do research into those at some point.

[dull heron]

my first gear made way too much torque for my old tires and i would always slip

[tepid wing]

I've learned how to not do that.

It was really exciting when I kept up to a Porche that was flooring it.

I don't know if it was just funny low end torque or me being a better driver or what.

[dull heron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFrkWNrG1qY

first gear on these cars are insane

this isnt my car but same specs and tune

[tepid wing]

I only have first gear which is certainly an interesting experience compared to having gears.

[dull heron]

actually i wonder if you have a CVT

or if it is just a motor

[tepid wing]

No it's fixed speed.

[dull heron]

oh i see

[tepid wing]

CVTs on EVa are kinda silly. I only know of one car with one, the prototype Chinese Coda. The Porsche Tycan has a two speed automatic.

[dull heron]

the new one yeah

if someone made a performance CVT it would be faster than anything, the problem is it isnt as fun as standard gears, as well as you would need to do something innovative over a standard belt design

[misty mantle]

Assuming you know of the chinese prototype CVT Coda because of Aging Wheels?

[dull heron]

we use CVTs in Baja SAE and Formula SAE cause they are lightweight and optimal

[tepid wing]

Yeah.

[dull heron]

and cheap

[tepid wing]

CVTs are super cool.

[dull heron]

they sound rediculous but the concept is cool

[misty mantle]

I'll stick to my manuals, thanks

[dull heron]

yeah lmao same

my second car will most likely be manual

[tepid wing]

It's hypothetically a perfect transmission because it keeps the engine in the powerband.

[misty mantle]

IMO, CVTs belong in snowmobiles and nothing else

[dull heron]

and other things that are like snowmobiles

like a polaris

[misty mantle]

I've had a Ranger 150 and a RMK-800, never buying polaris again.

The RMK was because the engine blew

[tepid wing]

Nah, they are really cool. If someone can manage to make one that is strong enough for stupid torque numbers they'll do great in high performance use cases.

[dull heron]

they are banned in F1

[tepid wing]

Hypothetically you could optimize the engines a bit more for a more narrow powerband which is cool.

F1 bans a lot of cool stuff.

[dull heron]

lots of rules in F1, i wonder what ways the teams cheat though

[tepid wing]

From what I understand a lot of them are to make it so you can't just throw money at the problem.

Anyway I need sleep.

[civic spoke]

Rip this guy

[dawn shell]

Toyota did

but they cheated

They just use a fixed gear as "first gear" before switching to the cvt

[stiff bloom]

https://jalopnik.com/tesla-cybertruck-owner-makes-best-modification-to-the-t-1851616396

[limber whale]

https://www.facebook.com/share/g/8dC87DsfzgzRPciY/?mibextid=K35XfP

[native ermine]

[bitter compass]

Googly eyes make everything better

Everyone should have a bag of them and just stick them to places

[dull heron]

i made sure they still had plenty visibility, and 14$ vinyl is a lot cheaper than 200$ for black housing brake lights

[tepid wing]

Someone did that in a town I lived near. All but two got removed, the people removing them must have been much shorter than the person placing them.

[dull heron]

night time visibilty is great, daytime visibility is... legal

[hollow pasture]

I despise trailing arm bushings

[stiff bloom]

its true. ive considered this many a time

[stiff bloom]

my favorite placement is this one for extra |ㆆ_______ㆆ|

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUVvUhpXEAAGADR?format=jpg&name=large

[native ermine]

🤣

lmao i fucking love it

[limber whale]

I mean that’s about how stupid it feels to see one

[tepid wing]

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[dull heron]

idgaf what people say cybertruck looks awesome

[stiff bloom]

ngl the googly eyes unironically make the car about 7x more appealing

[stiff bloom]

It's different I'll give it that

I like that the design exists (the engineering, not so much, but whatcanyado)

[stiff bloom]

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/08/heres-what-the-electric-dodge-chargers-fratzonic-exhaust-sounds-like/

ugh god i hate this so much

It's just putting a playing card between the spokes of your bicycle taken to its final form

[dull heron]

ive seen 1 company that has the right idea, and they make like electric rally cars

they use speakers to amplify the sounds of the motors and gearboxes, that way you get the audio feedback but its genuine

[stiff bloom]

I like that. That's probably the best way it could be done using speakers n stuff

Personally my preference is to use resonators and stuff to do basically the same thing. Saleen (yes, the mustang guys) built a system for teslas that did that and imo it sounded pretty good

[dull heron]

yeah, same idea

[stiff bloom]

Also don't know what system Ford used for their Mach E Banshee but I like it too

[dull heron]

i talked to one of the engineers from vsc about the development of the ev rally car, and they care a lot about what the audience sees. without sound it doesnt matter if it does 0-60 in 1.5s, it doesnt sound interesting

i think its vermont sports car that makes them

[stiff bloom]

Yeah they do the subaru rally cars

[dull heron]

https://vtcar.com/cars/fc1-x-ev-rallycross-car/

[stiff bloom]

STARD is the one that regularly makes all the EV race cars , they do great work too

[dull heron]

neat

[stiff bloom]

Personally my favorite is Paddon Rally Group, they do a Hyundai Kona EV that sounds just right imo

https://youtu.be/slMnSoXz8hM

[dull heron]

sounds awesome but it makes me wonder how much of it is real

the low tone doesnt sound very natural

[stiff bloom]

Well I actually got to meet and talk with Hayden Paddon (the Rally driver and man behind it) a little while ago and he said it's a system of expansion chambers and resonators hooked up to the geartrain, with another mechanical soundmaking device similar to a klaxon also connected to it

[dull heron]

woah thats cool

[stiff bloom]

So its all mechanical at least, I'd guess that the klaxonic thing does the lower tones. The motors aren't tremendously high rpm either

[dull heron]

i got this from the first place group E driver when i went to nitrocross

[stiff bloom]

Yeah it's a really neat project. Apparently they worked closely with STARD, tho none of their reps were there

[stiff bloom]

Whoa wait is that signed by John Reed?

[dull heron]

no i think a kevin something

[stiff bloom]

oh im not familiar then haha

[dull heron]

kainan baker

[stiff bloom]

Yeah i got nothin. But that's super cool!

[dull heron]

ive been collecting a few racing things

i haven't bought any gear yet which is cool

[stiff bloom]

that is nice.

[dull heron]

this rivian hat is one of my favorites

[stiff bloom]

Haha not the color i'd go for but looks cool!

[dull heron]

but i got stuff from stewart haas, las vegas grand prix, autodesk, onshape, shell, crc, etc

at least in terms of hats

i got to tour the stewart haas facility in charlotte before they shut down, see the entire process of manufacturing and testing

[meager thistle]

Thinking about buying a 2017 wrx should I?

[hexed totem]

if your into offroading, and a very cool car yeah sure

you can even buy bodykits

[flat nacelle]

guys

worth to use air filter?

[limber whale]

no you shouldn’t so your car can die

[flat nacelle]

oki

[limber whale]

oki

[stoic ledge]

It's an industry secret, but engines actually run better on dust, dirt, leaves and insects

[novel relic]

You can also attach a vacuum hose to the intake, if you really need to clean your interior on the fly, its multi purpose

[white heart]

It's a cool car

[flint sable]

i love the saleen GTX

I got to ask him what his favorite part about making that car was

and having the gears be straight cut was up there