cars

[civic spoke]

More or less €5,000.

[violet meteor]

My steering wheel, being straight, makes my car go right
So i have to put it at left 5 degrees
If i put it straight, it goes left 5 degrees on itself 80% of the times only when driving

what could it be

[dull cedar]

A fucked alignment. Go get an alignment done

[violet meteor]

is a local tyre shop enough?

or i need a mechanic

[dull cedar]

Whoever has an alignment rack
We don't know what each of or locals have lol

[civic spoke]

Sounds like you need an alignment. Search for any places that does them.
But the issue could also stem from a deeper issue. Damaged suspension parts, and the like from you maybe hitting a pot hole, etc.

Not to mention that they might not even be able to do an alignment if it's an older vehicle with fasteners stuck solid.

But alignment shop is your first bet.

[tepid wing]

State of charge for my car.

They should be able to tell you about what's wrong with it if they can't align it properly as well.

[wicked whale]

Tell that to 500hp in a roughly 2000 pound car with a 50/50 weight distribution lol

[dull cedar]

Didn't ask

[wicked whale]

Talks shit> Is surprised I back my shit up

Non profile pic activities

[tepid wing]

Hypothetically my car would have 400 if you made an AWD version, but it would probably have other limits.

[cold cypress]

my 1.0 going up a hill 😭

[bitter compass]

That's pretty much my overall fuel consumption..

But tbf i mostly drive motorway

[civic spoke]

I have a bit under 9 L/100km

[tepid wing]

The lifetime numbers are still tainted by the dealer's amazing efficiency of like, 0.3 mi/kwh.

[civic spoke]

Can't you reset those 'lifetime' numbers?

[tepid wing]

No idea.

I can look into it.

Nope, only a battery swap seems to do it.

[waxen vigil]

We can tow at 100km/h here in Australia.

[devout tulip]

.

[charred depot]

60mph is the highest limit here in the UK towing a trailer, nobody really follows any of these anyway.

In Scotland on single carriageways trucks have a limit of 40 vs 50mph in England where cars are 60mph. All the trucks still do like 56mph though

[wispy cloak]

Why are you bringing up a message from last year

[devout tulip]

It was funny?

[devout tulip]

I wish it was more enforced.

[devout tulip]

Idk actually

[civic spoke]

I want this.

[cold vale]

shot at 440kph

[civic spoke]

I remember the Bugatti Chiron speed run they did.

https://youtu.be/int4kWCBu3Q

I believe it was originally with the 0-400-0 kmh record they held briefly.

Until Koenigsegg took it back.

The Regera did it over 10 seconds faster. Using 1 km less distance.

[hexed kayak]

this is why i dont understand people driving baby engine cars :/

i average 7/100km up hill in my 5 cyl volvo cause it makes peak torque at 1700rpm

[cold cypress]

hey tell that to my mother

[charred depot]

1.0 in a fairly modern car shouldnt be so bad, try driving 40 year old 1 litre cars heh

[cold cypress]

it’s a 2017

LOL

[hexed kayak]

How much does the car weigh

[cold cypress]

1,050 kg (2,315 lb)

[hexed kayak]

💀

[cold cypress]

it’s just a NA 3 cyl 1.0

which barely manages to go up a hill…

[hexed kayak]

My volvo weights 3800 pounds and the engine is nearly 3x as big and has a turbo.
And it somehow is better on gas

[cold cypress]

tell that to toyota

[hexed kayak]

Its also 20 years old and has 323k km

[charred depot]

you could be driving in completely different situations / styles

[hexed kayak]

Both driving uphill

He gets 10 up hill i get 7

[charred depot]

hills arent a constant heh

[cold cypress]

it wasnt that big of a hill

[hexed kayak]

Most of our hills here are nearly to steep to walk up in one shot

[cold cypress]

that looks sick i love old volvos

[charred depot]

I manage fairly well in this Allegro which has around about 50hp people tend to hold me up, slightly too sketchy to make overtakes.

[cold cypress]

yeah we only overtake 1.0 corsas in our aygo

theyve got less horsepower

😎

[hexed kayak]

montreal is built on the side of a mountain

[cold cypress]

funny enough we also own a 1.0 corsa

that things beat up

[hexed kayak]

It moves

[cold cypress]

yeah um

[charred depot]

I overtake everyone in this originally had 50hp now has about 130 soon to be 200. Same brakes and suspension though.

[hexed kayak]

14 second 0-60

[cold cypress]

it surprisingly keeps up on the highway

[keen bay]

that mpg is insane tho

[hexed kayak]

I can barley tolerate driving anything that does more than 7

[cold cypress]

but also people take smart cars on the highway

[charred depot]

70hp is plenty, 95% of people rarely use much more

[hexed kayak]

Because that way i can take the 14 seconds to get to 60 but i barely even hear my cars engine

Or i can just go zoom if i want

[charred depot]

looks like its being lugged to fuck if that load value is to be believed.

[cold cypress]

the 3 cyl 5 gears can scream

[charred depot]

you would probably actually do better if you went down a gear

[cold cypress]

third gear i think..?

or fourth cant remember

i wouldnt trust a temu scanner for the load values thiough

atlest the alternator works!

[keen bay]

nrg wheel goes hard

[cold cypress]

is that an opel of some sorts?

[hexed kayak]

2l 4cyl 400hp

[hexed kayak]

Chevy but it has a opel motor

[cold cypress]

the interior looks just like an opel

i hate you gm

[cold cypress]

thats an opel motor alright

[hexed kayak]

Z20

Its called the LNF here though

[cold cypress]

not sure how "eco"tec that is though

are you in a car made of jello?

[hexed kayak]

I mean it does 4l/100km on the highway

[cold cypress]

well thats

better than out 1.0

[charred depot]

must be absolutely perfect conditions to achieve that

[cold cypress]

ours gets like 7-8

[charred depot]

granny to the factor of 10

[cold cypress]

i miss our old corsa company car which got 3.8 on the highway

[hexed kayak]

No thats its average at 110. When the highways arent grid locked

The turbo does fuck all on the highway so its basically an 80hp 4cyl when its on a highway

[charred depot]

yeah but efficiency has to be sacrificed in that situation due to the turbos existence

We had one of those shitey 2.0t Gm 9-3 aeros and even if you cruised at 50mph no chance

40 odd british (real) MPG on a good day

be lucky to get 4l/100km with a 1.9tid diesel one

[hexed kayak]

I mean i did this drive last august on one tank

[charred depot]

no amount of distance will make a shitey GM petrol engine more efficient than the diesel options heh

they are known to be thirsty here

everywhere here

[hexed kayak]

the car actually still has the fuel i bought in windsor in its tank cause i didnt drive it until a couple weeks ago after that trip

if i stay out of boost that car will do 1100 to a tank

[charred depot]

im not running the numbers but your 4l / 100km will pass no ones BS detecter heh

[hexed kayak]

4l/100km isnt hard when your country is 90% flat

[charred depot]

its still a diesel level number especially for that period

[hexed kayak]

idk whats so hard to believe. its well known a 5.7 gm v8 from the same era can do 5.8L/100km

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNIZ25eBMco

[charred depot]

you are claiming what is 70mpg here people can barely achieve that trying their hardest in diesels of that period

[hexed kayak]

70? its 58

[charred depot]

use real gallons

[hexed kayak]

maybe people need to take better care of their engines?
if a 400k mile skoda can do 800 miles on a tank without much issue
which car throttle proved it can. then its not that difficult

[charred depot]

they set out to do exactly that with zero deviation and it is a diesel

[fringe falcon]

this is why motorcycles are amazing

one of my bikes did 150 miles on half a tank

it has a 3 gallon tank

well just over

3.2 gallons

😩

[hexed kayak]

i should stitch together all my dashcam footage in a time lapse
then you can see me do the 900km without stopping for fuel

[charred depot]

even if you did thats still only 50 UK mpg

you would need to go a further like 380km ish

[hexed kayak]

Its not empty yet

[charred depot]

gonna do 380km on that

[hexed kayak]

It was at the last notch above red when i pulled it out of storage and ive done 70km since

So most likely

But probably not because ill be beating the shit out of it this year

and tbh its not the first time me or someone else with a cobalt ss has had someone not believe my mileage

you can pull up posts from the cobalt groups where people talked about getting 35 mpg city

[charred depot]

pretty standard, your number would be almost believable if you were properly hypermiling

doing 70mph no chance

[hexed kayak]

low car. full body length under tray (i made that) and good factory aerodynamics makes its doable

i can lift off at 110kph and coast 1km and be at 80-90

this is also the only car i own that rolls well enough to roll out of my flat drivway into the street if i leave it in neutral

volvo doesnt do it and neither does my gfs cobalt

[charred depot]

thats going to be slightly sticky calipers more than anything

[outer torrent]

been wanting to fit my 2013 Nissan Sentra with a wireless carplay but damn every reliable company is expensive af

[hexed kayak]

cause they last forever

ive have some headunits that i bought in the early 2000s and they still work well

[outer torrent]

damn, I got one when I first bought my car and both units stopped working in 30mins

now they were your typical Chinese bloat but still 30mins

[cold vale]

Koenigsegg smashed it

[civic spoke]

You could say that.

[cold vale]

whats rimac nevera's 0-400-0 time??

[civic spoke]

Just under 30 seconds

[cold vale]

ic

[civic spoke]

Egg got just under 29 seconds

[hexed kayak]

https://youtu.be/Ewu2P8UhQO8

[hexed kayak]

Idk how cheap used car play units are buy you can get cheap name brand stuff that works really well still

Just depends how old you want to go

@outer torrent this kenwood is probably something like 12 years old

Ive used it in 5 cars now

This pioneer is probably around 10 years old

[outer torrent]

Oh nice, yeah unfortunately im not gonna be in the area to be spending $500+ on a head unit for a while. Most I can do is gathering money from selling stuff and see what amounts I get during birthdays and Christmas

[lone storm]

Mustang Power

[lone storm]

Who's racing?

[leaden solar]

what mustang is this?

[lone storm]

2000 new edge

[leaden solar]

did you tune it or smth?

[cloud lance]

and this is possibly the best accessory ever for a Cybertruck:

[lone storm]

I adjusted the timing, bored and ported it, bigger injectors, and 3" exhaust

No turbo or supercharger and still does 178mph

[leaden solar]

km/h maybe?

[lone storm]

No mph

[leaden solar]

can you translate it somehow or nah?

or you don't know off the top of your head?

[lone storm]

286kph

[leaden solar]

zamn

[lone storm]

$1900 USD

[exotic ginkgo]

ew cybertruck

[outer torrent]

How is a cybertruck even road legal

I thought nowadays cars need crumple zones to be legal

[pure pond]

Xud rebuilt time

[tepid wing]

Of course this is Texas.

The best accessory is a recycling plant.

[rigid flume]

this is what my child looks like now after someone decided to merge into it on the highway because he "didn't see" the truck directly broadside.

[tepid wing]

I love it when I check my blind spot, signal and start to get over just to find the person a lane over started switching lanes without signaling.

[rigid flume]

It gets even better, it was a foreigner [no us DL]

[tepid wing]

Just sounds like someone that doesn't know how to drive.

[charred depot]

Lucas pump, sad for you

[pure pond]

i have a bosch pump but it needs to be rebuild

[charred depot]

its interesting you have the weaker head bolts but it is a 1.9 right?

has to be a 1.9, must be one of the really light turbo ones.

[pure pond]

yeah 1.9

[charred depot]

Allegedly those cylinder heads are made of a weaker alloy so dont take XUD9TE levels of boost so well.

[pure pond]

this is gonna be a block that is just for inspection after that im gonna build the other one for more horsepower that is the stronger one i believe

im a little new with these blocks so im still learning 😂

[charred depot]

if you can find any scrap DW10 2.0hdi engines the rods in them are a upgrade

[pure pond]

ok thx

[charred depot]

8v's are better but if you can get 16v ones they are much stronger

The crankshafts are the same aswell if you need one, 2.0hdi engines are much more common here these days.

[pure pond]

thats good to know because i cant really find parts here in the netherlands anymore

[hard sandal]

That happened to me when I had my bmw and I didn’t notice till I was almost 90° sideways in the middle of the interstate running 90mph

Bro caught the very corner of my rear bumper with his

Managed to save it but I took the very next exit and sat in a gas station lot for about 20 minutes

[tepid wing]

That's very understandable.

Also that's really fast for a freeway, the fastest one around here is 70.

[hard sandal]

Well, speed limits for me back then were more of a speed suggestion, that was about 5 year ago

[outer torrent]

Aaaand just realized im gonna need an overpriced install kit if I go for a head unit from a reputable brand

[tepid wing]

Just use a 3D printer and JB Weld it'll be fine.

[outer torrent]

thats assuming I have any form of access to a 3D printer without spending basically just as much

[tepid wing]

(It's also a joke)

[outer torrent]

[topaz hornet]

Lada??

[hard sandal]

Papier-mâché? Lmao

[tribal current]

Yesterdays procurement

Got some new tires today

The old owner had 225/35/18s on it

I got some 255/45/18 conti extremecontact DSW06s today, getting them mounted and balanced tomorrow

[wispy cloak]

What in the monster truck

[wraith rivet]

Um wut

those rims look smaller than the oem ones

[dawn shell]

They're probably both 18" rims (stock and aftermarket) but he stretched thin tires on a car that's designed to use a relatively thick tire

[dull cedar]

always make sure the diameter of your tyres on your street car are correct

[eager grove]

surely the tires need to be the same width as the wheels...

[dull cedar]

yes, also make sure your tyres are suitable for the wheels

[eager grove]

That's only 20mm of extra tire diameter which I think should be fine in those wheel wells

[dawn shell]

I can't tell if you're trolling but stretched is definitely a look

the issue is here, he's going for stretched thin on a stock rim so fitment is bad

[dull cedar]

a stupid look that should never be done

do not stretch tyres

[dawn shell]

Agree

[tight cypress]

yes

[violet meteor]

so i went to do wheel alignment today and so far the car functions well but my rims are 16 and the paper from the service says 15 could he done it wrong?

[fair moon]

how confident are you that they are 16s?

not that it would change that much but

[misty mantle]

This is cursed

[tribal current]

They are 18x9.5, stock is 17x7

[tribal current]

Stock is 17, 18 is what I got

[tribal current]

The previous owner had them on a Genesis

I’m putting a 255/45 on a 9.5

[tribal current]

Don’t worry it’ll be fixed today

Here are the new tires next to the wheels

Not the same car but here’s a picture of a 255/45/18 on a 18x9.5

[violet meteor]

janta = rim

[fair moon]

Ah yeah he got it wrong

That's ok tho

[civic spoke]

Wouldn't change anything with the alignment. Round is round.

[civic spoke]

This just looks wrong?
The wheels aren't filling up the space in the slightest.

[tribal current]

Well aware

If you read the message below that you’d see that I’m getting bigger tires out on today

[civic spoke]

Ahh

Still super happy with my setup.

[tribal current]

I’m getting meat put on mine, gonna prolly do coils soon

Gotta split the money evenly since I gotta also put some towards a possible e36 soon

[civic spoke]

My E46 had a 30 mm drop to it (give or take).
And 225/45R17 tires.

[tight cypress]

buy a rotten e36 and save money😄

[civic spoke]

Can't get anything affordable these days.

[tight cypress]

depends on what is affordable

[civic spoke]

Paid like €5,000 for my E46 320i with 71,000 km's on it.
But this was almost 9 years ago.

[tight cypress]

way too cheap for it

[leaden solar]

thats a bargan almost

[tight cypress]

personally wouldnt buy any other bmw model than e30

or maybe an 2002 🤔

[civic spoke]

Had to replace the alternator. Since it was acting up.

Threw 18 Volts at the whole car from time to time.

Oh, by the way. Those rims I'm using are from a BMW X3 that I bought for like €200.

And then threw on a fresh set of Pilot Sport 5 on them.

So €700 for a fresh set of rims and tires.

[tight cypress]

i paid 300€ for fresh set of rims and tires 😄

[spring basin]

I cringe a little bit every time someone refers to wheels as rims

[hexed kayak]

for those who need it

if people are buying rims i wonder how their car drives down the street

[tight cypress]

would not be surprised about someone buying rims for custom purposes

[brittle totem]

Well here in Sweden you used to be able to get E46 330i for around 5000€ in good shape just a couple of years ago,

[tight cypress]

but only driven 71k?

[civic spoke]

Pre-vid

[tight cypress]

brand new, kinda

[brittle totem]

Nah my brother paid around €4500 in 2019 330i E46 i think it had like 160000km on it.

[tight cypress]

still pretty new

although mileage doesnt equal its a good car

[civic spoke]

Just in time for it to fall apart.

[tight cypress]

better to get rid of it before reachin 200k💀

[brittle totem]

He didn't have any major problems with it

so i guess it was good shape then

[civic spoke]

Mine's at 195,000 km's now.

[brittle totem]

But he only had it for like 1 year

[tight cypress]

i have no idea about my project cars mileage

[brittle totem]

so maybe not enough time for something to wrong

[civic spoke]

I just keep track of my milage and consumption.

[tight cypress]

i choose to not track my consumption due to mental health issues if i do so

so much money goin down the drain

[brittle totem]

What's the mileage at now ?

[tight cypress]

i have driven my daily for 6 months and hit 20k already

[civic spoke]

195,000 km's.

[brittle totem]

Oh not that much then our Passat from 2021 is at like 95000km already 😅

[civic spoke]

Kept track of the fuel stops over the last 70,000+ km's.

[tight cypress]

our 2013 transit is reaching 500k soon

better to get rid of it soon

[civic spoke]

Father has a Nissan NV200 of similar vintage. But it's falling apart.

[tight cypress]

so is ours slowly

same oil leak as the older one we had before this

[civic spoke]

Look at the wipers...

[brittle totem]

Similar to the wipers on our Passat then then they are also shit quality and OEM wipers which get replaced at every serivce.

[twin jasper]

[violet meteor]

Guys i have an issue i find it hard to take the foot off the clutch on a hill until i drove off it but i cant drive with half-clutch that much distance what do i need to do? im a new driver

[stoic ledge]

Handbrake on, find biting find clutch, drive off while lowering handbrake

[stoic ledge]

People driving like this should return their license

Good wipers cost basically nothing

[tribal current]

Planning on getting a copart car lol

[violet meteor]

anything wrong with the sound of the engine?

apart from my breathing sorry

[wispy cloak]

New whip

[misty mantle]

Dakota?

[wispy cloak]

Yes

It infected my other dakota

[misty mantle]

This the replacement for the Super duty?

[wispy cloak]

No

I just got it for so cheap I couldn't pass it up

$350

5.9 4wd

[misty mantle]

How.....

[wispy cloak]

Trans isn't shifting right

I think I know what the problem is though

[misty mantle]

Manual swap it

[wispy cloak]

The 46re is notorious for shift solenoid failure

[cold anvil]

hello

[wispy cloak]

And line pressure sensor failure

[cold anvil]

5.9 is wild

[wispy cloak]

So I'm going to drop the pan and hope they didn't burn up a band

[wispy cloak]

Both of my dakotas are factory 5.9 trucks

[misty mantle]

5.9 gasser

[cold anvil]

rarely seen an engine larger than 4L in person

[wispy cloak]

Four of my eight vehicles have engines larger than 4L

[cold anvil]

i have 0 vehicles 1 bike

[wispy cloak]

Two 5.9s, a 6.0, and a 6.6

[cold anvil]

i have 0l

[wispy cloak]

Do you have a water bottle holder

[cold anvil]

nah

[wispy cloak]

Should get one

[cold anvil]

ive got one sitting around

[wispy cloak]

That's good for at least 1L

[cold anvil]

i jus dont rlly need to drink water mid cycle

[cold anvil]

acc yeah

put a 5L bottle in it

[wispy cloak]

[cold anvil]

i wanna get a bike with a pannier rack on the rear and put a decently sized 1.4L engine or smth

to power it

[wispy cloak]

This is my other dakota

[cold anvil]

doubt a large engine would fit on the rear

[misty mantle]

Between me, my parents, and my grandparents, we have a 1.5 turbo I3, a 2.3 turbo I4, a 2.9 V6, a 3.5 V6, and a 5.7 V8

[wispy cloak]

They make moped conversion kits

[cold anvil]

fr?

send

[wispy cloak]

The smallest engine in a road vehicle I have is a 1.6

[wispy cloak]

Look up bike engine kit on ebay

That should bring them up

Or amazon

[misty mantle]

Smallest engine in a vehicle I have is a 350cc, 0.35 liter

[cold anvil]

yo yeah i found one

[misty mantle]

My ATV

[wispy cloak]

I have a 3.11cc

[misty mantle]

In what?

Lawnmower

[wispy cloak]

Sorry 2.46cc

[wispy cloak]

Nitro RC car

[misty mantle]

YOOOOO

What car?

[wispy cloak]

Stampede

Traxxas

[wispy cloak]

These kits are super cheap but they work

I've always wanted to do one

[misty mantle]

Why does everyone seem to have a damn traxxas

Though I didn't expect it to be a nitro stampede

[wispy cloak]

I just wanted the cheapest nitro car I could get

[misty mantle]

I'm in a couple RC discords, I'd send you a invite but kinda against the rules in here and in MSC

[wispy cloak]

I haven't touched it since I got my license

Because it didn't want to run right and I got mad at it

Was running mega rich

[misty mantle]

Not suprising

Traxxas nitros suck

[wispy cloak]

I think I have some random losi engine sitting around

[misty mantle]

Don't run traxxas fuel

Wayy to much oil

[wispy cloak]

I was running losi fuel I think

[misty mantle]

good

[wispy cloak]

I want a slash

Electric seems superior

[misty mantle]

I'm planning on getting a arrma Gorgon over the summer

It's been a long time since I've had a running 2wd rc

[wispy cloak]

I want something that I can beat on and get parts for cheap

I have a li-ion charger and all that jazz

I had an rc plane once but I did the classic thing most people do

[misty mantle]

I never really got into planes and helis

[wispy cloak]

I can't fly them where I live

Too close to an airport

Legally I'd have to call the tower and inform them that I'd be flying some dinky little foam plane

[misty mantle]

Yeah

My dad and grandpa were both into cars

Got it from them

[wispy cloak]

Mine weren't

My grandpa hasn't done car stuff since the 60s

But he was a farmer

My great uncle is the only car person

[misty mantle]

I got both my thing for cars and RCs from my dad and grandpa

[wispy cloak]

I don't really know how I got into cars and not tractors

[misty mantle]

My thing for powersports was started by my parents

[cold anvil]

wouldnt that be illegal

wouldnt even classify as a moped in the uk

yeah it would make a standard bicycle a motorbike legally

for it to be a moped it has to be under 50cc

[wispy cloak]

I live in the US so I don't really know laws outside of here

[charred depot]

You can IVA it and make it legal in the UK, lots of hassle though need proper e marked lights and all that

plus getting insurance for Q plate stuff is iffy

[dawn shell]

did he crash it?

[tribal current]

Nah he got 20 inch weds cerb IIs

[dawn shell]

shocking, actually.

stretched tires I don't understand the appeal

it performs worse, feels worse, looks worse

[tribal current]

20x10.5 with a 235 or 225 stretched on it

[tribal current]

It’s a Genesis lol not much to perform with

I’m putting meat on them cause I care about the handling of my car

[dawn shell]

precisely, stretched tires turn a mediocre car to a bad one

[tribal current]

Exactly lol

[dawn shell]

if it has good fitment then it's a good setup imo

[tribal current]

I got 255s for them and even then I got a set of “sporty” all seasons

Not the same wheels but the same width profile and such for the wheel and tire

[dawn shell]

that'll do

ngl though for the model 3... I think I prefer the stock rims without the aero cover

[tribal current]

I just need to go a touch lower and I’ll be mint

[tribal current]

Stock wheels on model 3 are fantastic

I wanted to get a set of them initially

But the wheels i got I traded for a am3+ era gaming pc and a dell optiplez work station I got for free

[dawn shell]

lmao

that's a good trade

[tribal current]

I built the am3+ pc for 80 bucks

[dawn shell]

i can't say much I run stock rims

[tribal current]

Stock wheels are good

Honda stock wheels are awesome

I wanted to run 10th gen accord sport wheels

19x9 I believe from factory

[dawn shell]

not my picture but the same as this

[tribal current]

Dope, I can’t wait to do a set with my car

I do automotive photography and I’m so happy my car (within the next few months of me doing stuff to it) I can’t wait to be able to take photos of it

[dawn shell]

wait is that the windmill or the 10 spoke

[tribal current]

Windmill

[dawn shell]

ahhh

[tribal current]

I really want to do this spot I did for this guy but with my car

[tepid wing]

I'm starting to get a little worried that I'm not going to be getting my plates.

[dawn shell]

I take photos but not of cars... I should start

[stiff bloom]

that's gorgeous

[tribal current]

Rose gold wrap

[dawn shell]

we have the benefit of not needing front plates

[tribal current]

His car is awesome

[dawn shell]

how'd he get it into the forest...?

[stiff bloom]

oh really i thought it was bronze lmao, still sweet. And pretty tasteful unlike most wraps i see

[dawn shell]

or entrance of a trail

Bags?

[stiff bloom]

i think its bagged

[tribal current]

Nah static on 20k springs

[dawn shell]

how the balls

[stiff bloom]

rip to that guy lmao

[dawn shell]

the ground was flat enough for that?

[tribal current]

He said fuck it we ball

[stiff bloom]

alright 20k rip to his spinal column lmao

[dawn shell]

lmao

[tribal current]

Yep, the grass leading to it was very flat, I was worried he was gonna crack his oil pan on the lip going back onto the conlrete

[dawn shell]

gives m4 gts vibes

[stiff bloom]

mmmmmmmmmmmm e92 ❤️

[dawn shell]

mainly cause wing and wheel but that's sick

[tribal current]

He’s running a GTS wing

[stiff bloom]

I like how dorky the spoiler is, its like a gts

[stiff bloom]

oh lmao

[tribal current]

But the risers are from a 235i cup car I believe

Or something like that

[dawn shell]

ahhhh

[tribal current]

His M3 is dope

He builds custom made servers for a living

[stiff bloom]

one of the few cars that can pull off a full carbon hood imo

[tribal current]

He had a interlagos blue one but he binned it hitting a oil slick on track

[tribal current]

He has a carbon slick top too

[stiff bloom]

oof.

ohhhhhhh i see now

[dawn shell]

I'd say most egg shaped cars can

[stiff bloom]

that's a very particular criterion lmao

[tribal current]

He has a carbon lip but not overdone

[stiff bloom]

I don't think the e92 is particularly egg-shaped tho 🤔

[dawn shell]

the front end is overall pretty rounded

[stiff bloom]

eeuuugh it was so close to perfect but ofc it has rgb headlights 😭

[tribal current]

He takes it to a lot of kids charities and stuff

[dawn shell]

esp compared to stuff like the e36 or f80

[stiff bloom]

that's neat!

[stiff bloom]

oh so you mean just "rounded"?

I thought you meant the shape of the greenhouse or smth

[dawn shell]

The entire front is round

[tribal current]

I guess the e46 is in the same boat as the e92

There both like “bubbly”

[stiff bloom]

yes that's true

[tribal current]

Not fat just very curvy

[stiff bloom]

I thought you meant like a mk1 ford focus or smth

[dawn shell]

e92 was peak round I'd say E46 was closer to the 36

[tribal current]

Or a fit lol

[dawn shell]

nah

[stiff bloom]

I'd actually disagree, I think more angular cars look better with carbon hoods, which is why its weird to me that the e92 makes it work imo

[dawn shell]

like I'd describe the e36/46 as mature, e90 as innocent and f80 onwards as aggressive

and whatever the newest one is just goofy

[stiff bloom]

you misspelled "an abomination"

[dawn shell]

it's not that bad... it could be the m2

[tribal current]

Here’s a bagged e210 Corolla I did, a XRS auto, real carbon fenders and hood on it btw

[stiff bloom]

the m2 is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy better than the m3/4. It's still horrible, but the lesser of the evils imo

[dawn shell]

wth

[dawn shell]

overall or just the front ?

cause I will never forgive bme for those taillights

[stiff bloom]

uhhhhhh both? imo, the m4 front is the only SUPER bad part of it, but it's so bad that it drags the entire rest of the car down

if you removed the fronts, then yeah the m2 is worse

[stiff bloom]

oh god i must've repressed the memory i had to look them up again 🤣

[tribal current]

The M2 rear tails aren’t that bad

[stiff bloom]

yikes those are abysmal

[dawn shell]

take that back rn

someone took the m2 and used duct tape to fix the look and it's better.

[tribal current]

Nvm I thought I knew what they looked like

Who’s crack pipe were they smoking

[stiff bloom]

they're pretty bad, not the worst thing ever but like these have "kia drl" syndrome

[dawn shell]

They ruined the m240i as well

G42 is just... what

[tribal current]

BMW styling department threw the damn rule book out of the window

For the why

[stiff bloom]

the biggest problem is that the F87 was one of the prettiest cars of the last 5 decades

on its own the g87 is just "bad", but compared to its older brother, it's hideous

https://cdn.bimmertoday.de/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Bild-Vergleich-BMW-M2-G87-F87-2022-01-750x500.jpg

[dawn shell]

I prefer f82 but f80 in general was pretty good

[stiff bloom]

Yeah it was an instance of Great vs Amazing, imo E9X was the best 3 series visually

F8X was awesome, but doesn't hold a candle

[dawn shell]

f22 and g42

[stiff bloom]

that's the real question, m240 or m2

[tribal current]

The G87 front isn’t that bad

I don’t mind it, but the rear end is so aweful

[dawn shell]

sorry not f22, f87

[stiff bloom]

like i said, it's not horrible, just bad

[dawn shell]

old m240i, otherwise m2

[stiff bloom]

it's just that the f87 was gorgeous

[tribal current]

I won’t lie the new M3 and M4 front bumpers aren’t bad at all

It grew on me

[stiff bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/deadtome-dead-ihateyou-to-me-gif-5464249

[dawn shell]

I can't get behind the grilles... though apparently they're functional?

[tribal current]

But I will say it was definetly one of the design choices of all time

[stiff bloom]

lmaoooooooooooooooooooo that just means they go somewhere

[tribal current]

But the m340i grill looks dorky

They go up onto the hood too much

[dawn shell]

nono they had some sort of active flaps or smth inside

[stiff bloom]

actually no, the giant-ass bars in the middle proves that the grilles are not functional

[tribal current]

I thought that was like standard since fhe e92 era no?

[dawn shell]

I was saying the new m8 looks like a certain dictator...

[tribal current]

Hahaha

[dawn shell]

I meant across the entire grille

yea but it's bigger this time!

[stiff bloom]

i had to delete it sorry

i couldn't stand to look at it any further

[tribal current]

Lmao

Also is it just me or does the 11th gen accord rear end look like a Jetta or something

Like wtf is this

[dawn shell]

isn't that the a7 rear?

Audi

[tribal current]

It’s a Honda accord which is so funnt

Did a bunch of euro engineers move to Japanese car companies?

[dawn shell]

wait ngl though Accord is kinda crazy

[stiff bloom]

all cars now look the same

[tribal current]

It sucks

[dawn shell]

nah

I don't agree

Honda lost their identity sure but most brands still have a signature look

[tribal current]

Also what’s up with Honda and GM coming together for the prologue and the RDX

[stiff bloom]

https://topgear.com.sg/sites/default/files/article-gallery/screenshot_2020-10-26_at_14.22.21.jpg

look how easy it was

[dawn shell]

they already terminated the contract

[stiff bloom]

still not excellent, but that's like 70x better

[tribal current]

Thank god

Jesus Honda was about to be in a shit storm

[dawn shell]

wait yk what's the ugliest car I think this year

Toyota S-FR

[tribal current]

I think it looks like a mini

[dawn shell]

made to compete with the Miata and looks like a dick

[tribal current]

The new minis also lost their identity

[dawn shell]

or a catfish

[stiff bloom]

really? i think they're okay except for the interiors

[tribal current]

I mean it looks like a mini

[stiff bloom]

lmao what is that

ive never heard of aceman

it sounds like a bootleg superhero

[tribal current]

This is the JCW countryman

[stiff bloom]

oh damn you're right

that's sad

[dawn shell]

yikes

not that I would've ever bought a mini anyway though...

Somehow less reliable than modern BMWs

[tribal current]

The cooper still looks like a mini

[tribal current]

They’re very fun to drive

A buddy of mine has a 03 superheated with a smaller pulley and bigger intericool

And it drives fantastic

[dawn shell]

interesting

[tribal current]

Well when it decides to drive correctly and not have problems it is fantastic

[dawn shell]

yea that's what I thought

[tribal current]

It’s a 20 year old mini with a engine that’s Chrysler based and design that was done in house by Rover overseen by bmw

[dawn shell]

my 2012 RAV4 v6 is so loud because of no interior sound dampening and makes 60kmh feel like 100 in my m240i somehow

[tribal current]

The W11 in the R53 is more related to a dodge neon motor than any bmw

[dawn shell]

suspension might as well not exist with how stiff it is

wait

[tribal current]

About which part

That bmw worked with Chrysler for the motor?

Or what

[dawn shell]

nono nvm

[tribal current]

My accord has a crap ton of sound deadener cause I have a 15

[dawn shell]

I just remembered I saw a land rover with broken rear shocks so it was bouncing all over the place

today

very entertaining

[tribal current]

I saw a truck with a blown shock yesterday and the wheel was bouncing like a basketball

[dawn shell]

man

I'm actually scared of old trucks and SUVs

like 70% of the tie they aren't looked after maintained

saw one with alignment bad enough it was basically driving forward slanted

https://tenor.com/view/doug-de-muro-mercedes-maybach-gls600-bouncing-gif-21225241

same thing right...?

[tribal current]

Especially in the rust belt

I saw a van driven by tweakers when I worked at a tire shop that had its original tires from 2003

[dawn shell]

oh schiit

I mean

Natural selection ig?

you don't see pieces of tires on the side of the road for no reason

[tribal current]

They were trying to claim they bought the tires from us the month prior and that they were already dry rotted

I worked there 6 days a week with Sundays off (since they were closed) I did not see them the month prior lol

[olive narwhal]

Are memes allowed here?

[tribal current]

A good buddy of mine has a billet block big turbo sti and he’s only making 380

[olive narwhal]

10L engine
100hp

[native ermine]

bit of JB weld will fix dat

ALSO

technically a boxers engine lays flat in the car... so like the piston would go through there wall

not the ceiling

☝️🤓

[olive narwhal]

JB weld forged piston

[native ermine]

lol

[olive narwhal]

Forged JB weld lol

[native ermine]

xD

lmao

[olive narwhal]

Would prob work too which makes it worse

[native ermine]

ye probably 🤣

[olive narwhal]

Tempted to buy like a lawnmower engine and forge a piston for it

[native ermine]

DO IT

[olive narwhal]

Hm

Lemme do some research

[native ermine]

[olive narwhal]

I love KWHXJ engines

Worst case here: it blows up
Best case: cool, JB weld piston

[native ermine]

[stiff bloom]

is it bad that i like it

[dawn shell]

Most car brands spend upwards of a 1B per model

[native ermine]

and yet all they come up with is a shit crossover

[fair moon]

That's only the 2nd gen

[stoic ledge]

Apparently what the market wants 🤷

[stoic ledge]

That's the latest 4th gen

[fair moon]

I meant to reply to this

the R50/51/52/53 and F55/56/57/60/61 are both fine

but R55/56/57/58/59/60/61 (yes, there are that many) are another story

(ask me how i know)

[stoic ledge]

You also included the Coupe/Roadster/Countryman/Paceman in the R range I assume? 😛

I don't know them by heart but the amount seems to match up

R55+*

[fair moon]

R55 is Clubman, R56 is Hatch, R57 is Vert, R58 is Coupe, R59 is Roadster, R60 is Countryman, R61 is Paceman

I has an R56

4th gen naming is a mess tho

[fair moon]

BMW bought out the entirety of Rover (and at that point, the Mini Project) in 1994, the last Mini produced by Rover was made in October of 2000. The plant that the BMW Minis were made in never made Minis, too (Plant Oxford)
Rover was basically dead by '00, I wouldn't really say they had an influence - especially because the car wasn't built like total shit.

Rover was officially defunct as of May 2000 it seems which is when all of the brands got bought out

[bitter compass]

I refuse to acknowledge anything but the cooper as a mini

[stiff bloom]

yeah, the fact that coupe suv monstrosities can demand upwards of $10k USD more new than their better-in-every-way boxy counterparts is proof of that 🙃

[stiff bloom]

i unno, the countryman has done some badass stuff... 🤔

https://youtu.be/l1BZow3rf_M?si=W_yuWd8YdA8KZIyn

[outer torrent]

I know im not seeing someone selling their Tesla model 3 worth $60k for $27k

[terse raptor]

Either rebuild or scam

[violet meteor]

how the hell am i supposed to climb this with my car (from right to left) without half-clutching?(1k rpm + holding clutch in the middle( 😢

[wicked minnow]

egg

[civic spoke]

You're allowed to ride the clutch. Just don't overdo it.
Once you become more comfortable with it, then finding the bite point and everything will become habit.

[violet meteor]

The only thing im afraid is i have to half clutch this entire area everytime i leave the house

this wont ruin it right?

its not a one time thing

[civic spoke]

What will ruin the clutch is extended use of it at higher RPM. Just riding it a bit around 1k rpm is fine.
As I said, you'll get use to the clutch more as you use it.

[violet meteor]

I see, but what if its not going up?

cant i give more rpm?

[civic spoke]

You can. But just be more mindful when you do.
Just do it for shorter periods of time.

[violet meteor]

Or just give a bit more rpm and let the clutch a bit?

more

[civic spoke]

And remember that the clutch is a wear item for a reason.

[violet meteor]

will this wear it out less

[winged raft]

Lame

[paper sandal]

https://fixvx.com/ErigolDelViento/status/1790397613721768370

these are getting out of hand

[dawn shell]

Optimally, you'd use as low of an RPM as you can to get up while riding the clutch but honestly, don't worry too much about it

the clutch wearing out is no different from your brake pads wearing out, replace as needed and don't be too paranoid about trying to save it

[stiff bloom]

why tf has this blown up so much in the last week

[paper sandal]

I keep seeing these again on japanese twitter

[stiff bloom]

They're goddamn everywhere. Variants too. I don't get why it's become a thing now lmao

[hexed kayak]

i used to make shit like this

[paper sandal]

Me when swiss carrot

[charred depot]

moar patches

Dont normally bother fixing rusty doors but painting this car a different colour

[flint sable]

stilted sedan

[dawn shell]

wtf

[vestal oak]

Wrong chat

[violet meteor]

what would get destroyed more in an accident?

mk jetta 5 (or golf 5) or dacia logan mk2

[dawn shell]

depends on the accident

[tight cypress]

this is the slightest rust on a door i've seen

i had to do every bottom from every door in my lada

some of the easiest panels to warp too

[charred depot]

Its alright when you can get panels like ladas

having to put in smaller repair sections and not have it warp to fuck is way more annoying

[wispy cloak]

@charred depot this truck I just bought is very much you style

I think the bed is more air than metal at this point

I have quick fuel pump access

[charred depot]

Mines are crusty not holy

[charred depot]

high pugs

[wheat hatch]

Oops

[tight cypress]

im too cheap to buy those panels

for doors etc

for some big parts that are too time consuming to fab ill buy it if possible

fabricated the whole trunk expect the biggest floor bit myself

alot of time spent

[wheat hatch]

Double oops

Also, Swedish summer

A joy to see

[violet meteor]

what happens if you let the clutch out without any gas at all

1m
9 tdi

1.9 tdi

[pure pond]

mine drives of then

[spring basin]

depends on how fast you let the clutch out and how much power your car makes

[civic spoke]

Nothing particular happens. You might bog down and stall. But that's about it.

[brittle totem]

This was also a joy to see for the first time 😃

[wheat hatch]

😌

Sveriges stolthet

[stiff bloom]

in other words, depends on how slow you let it out haha. Obviously dropping the clutch will stall, but if you aren't on a hill and let it out real slowly you can get rolling into 1st. If your gears are short and/or the engine has high enough displacement it you might make it into 2nd or 3rd if you're even more careful 😉

[violet meteor]

lol thaanks

[misty mantle]

Welp, my starter is shitting itself

Have to hit it with a hammer every time I want to start my truck, otherwise it won't engage

Fucker is like 2 months old

[charred depot]

friends loaded so he just bought like literally every panel heh, easiest welding ever.

[cold vale]

is slowing down using clutch bad? (downshifting but not blipping throttle pedal instead using half clutch to make the transmission match lower engine speed - the clutch does all the work - the engine speed eventually comes up but not like throttle blipping at all)

[civic spoke]

That's worse than blipping the throttle. Since you're just wearing out the clutch, pretty much.

[violet meteor]

talking about clutchez why this springy noise?

I also shifted here so nvm that sound after

[coarse jewel]

it's fairly normal, probably just the spring plate

[coarse jewel]

You don't want to hold it like that, down shifting and engine braking is fine, but holding it on the grab point is bad

[civic spoke]

This. Pretty much.
Engine braking isn't bad on the engine either way.

[hexed kayak]

reman shit

[charred depot]

hitting it with a hammer is the remanufacturing process

[hexed kayak]

wait till he learns about second life batteries

those fuckers barley last compared to a first life battery

[misty mantle]

Fucking what

[hexed kayak]

second life batteries are remans and first life are brand new.

[misty mantle]

Yep

[misty mantle]

Whoever came up with that idea is stupid

[hexed kayak]

second life is the shit you get from napa oradvaced auto

bosch etc is first life

my purple car has a 5 year old second life battery in it. and it shit the bed 2 months ago.

[misty mantle]

bruh

[hexed kayak]

my volvo has a first life bosch that going on 12 years old and you can leave the lights on overnight on this car and it will still start

[hexed kayak]

@misty mantle

[hexed kayak]

it wil be almost dead but it will start

[misty mantle]

That's a damn good battery

[hexed kayak]

AGM ftw

they are borderline deep cyle as is

[charred depot]

I have like a 12 year old battery from a volvo in one of my cars because it kept throwing up airbag codes

starts my diesel even after sitting for months

never really buy batteries just get ones from whiney modern cars

[civic spoke]

I remember taking my Bimmer off the road for over a year and a bit.
Plugged in the battery again, and she started right up...

[fair moon]

usually as long as you put the battery on a tender it's fine

[civic spoke]

Garage is a good 200 meters away from our house.

So no. No tender.

[hexed kayak]

This poor car is super fucked

Never going on the road again

Its been there atleast 5 years

With the sun roof open

[dawn shell]

poor camry

[dawn shell]

It probably has an AGM battery which makes it a lot better

You could probably take the battery out and bring it home with you no?

[dawn shell]

I killed mine ;-;

Over the winter, didn't have it on a tender and forgot about it

got too cold and voltage dropped down to 4v

there goes 300 bucks ;-;

[civic spoke]

Bosch

[dawn shell]

Yea

I have a BMW oem one (probably sourced from Varta or smth similar)

[limber whale]

pro grade or something idk

brake pad indicator plug was broken so i soldered it back together, heat shrunk, and hot glued.

[cold vale]

got it thanks

[cold vale]

understood thx

[tribal current]

Got my new tires mounted

[dawn shell]

that is actually a really weird look

dare I say that accord probably could run 19s

the tire isn't exactly thick like it would be for 17

but isn't thin like 19

super trippy

[tribal current]

I want (In the future) to run 20s when I’m bagged

I wanted a lot of sidewall tho

I like meat

[violet meteor]

what kind of rims are these

material i mean

aluminium? iron?

[fair moon]

probably aluminum alloy

[violet meteor]

Are they better than these?

[fair moon]

Depends

[violet meteor]

this is steel

[fair moon]

if it's a shitty wheel it might bend or crack easier but the alloy wheel will be lighter

[violet meteor]

oh so it depends on the brand after all?

[fair moon]

Somewhat

[violet meteor]

Do you know aluett or is it only in my country?

[fair moon]

never heard of it

[violet meteor]

Ok thanks a lot

[fair moon]

The major wheel OEMs tend to be BBS, Enkei/Konig/Advanti Racing/OZ and a few others

I know my car for example has OEM BBS wheels

[civic spoke]

Aluett seems to available here in Sweden as well. But looks like a budget brand.

Not a fan of any of most budgety brands.

The issue is just that if I wanted to get a single higher end third party rim. Then I'm paying as much for that one rim, as I did for a whole set of second hand OEM rims, with new rubber.

[civic spoke]

Style 304, for those curious. Found on the X3.

[halcyon grotto]

hmm something aint right here (pcv hoses look to have perished?(

[violet meteor]

Should I sell my Jetta mk5 to buy a bmw e56/e91

[hard sandal]

Yeah pcv and its a bitch and a half to get the intake off to do the pcv on the white blocks I had to do a pcv on my S60R

[halcyon grotto]

I just hope I don't break any bolts

Any tips

I see some people using non standard hoses and stuff

[dawn shell]

20s might be a little awkward with the more bulbous shape but go for it ig

but yea I think either 17 or 19 is the play for that body

[dawn shell]

330xi?

[hexed kayak]

20s are goona be shit on that car

onlly rubber bands will fit

and it wont turn

[dawn shell]

if he's planning to bag it then he's probably ok with smashing the wheel well

it's not like 90% of pickup trucks turn any better

[civic spoke]

320i

[tepid crown]

A dusty trip

[misty mantle]

If you let someones brakes get that thin, you shouldn't be a mechanic

[rugged lynx]

I bet the cooling is amazing on that rotor

[wraith rivet]

How’s it the mechanics fault lmao

[misty mantle]

If the vehicle was in the shop previously and had a multi-point inspection done, if not at multiple shops and had multiple multi-point inspections done, each mechanic would have seen that the rotor was way beyond the wear limit, and whatever mechanics did see it never notified the customer. Of course, there is also the possibility that the car hadn't been in the shop for a long ass time until the owner "started hearing the grinding noise yesterday"

[unborn pebble]

Hello car people!

I am buying my first car and looking for some buying advice. This will be mainly a commute car and I have a very limited budget. Over the last few weeks of research have narrowed it down to basically two options at around the $12k price point, a 2013 Lexus CT200h with 90k miles or a 2016 Chevy Volt with 60k miles. Both have clean Carfaxes with quite low milage per year, I don't care about carplay. The Lexus had it's battery replaced in 2016.

I'm specifically asking y'all here which one would have the lower chance of causing problems/costly repairs over the next 5 years. I know the lexus uses the same super reliable system as the Prius, but the Volt is newer and less miles.

(if you need more info or want to see the actual carfax for each i can send it to you)

Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated.

[hard sandal]

I would never recommend a Chevy volt, American hybrid EV’s tend to be more troublesome, granted it’s only got 60k miles so probably will be alright but it’s coming up on a few big preventative maintenance things in the next 10-40k miles but the CT200h is also right in that range if needing some big maintenance items too, but I would recommend a fancy Toyota every time over a GM

[unborn pebble]

ok thank you!

[jagged wagon]

I'm biased towards <ANY> JDM auto manufacturer vs. <ANY> North American auto manufacturer, and <almost_ANY> European auto manufacturer, but even if I weren't, I agree with @hard sandal regarding EV's. I know a couple Chevy Volt owners - they're overall happy with their Volt, but have had the cars in/out of the shop far more often than I'd like, considering both vehicles were under 5 years old when they purchased them.

[unborn pebble]

Thank you. I wish I had the money to just buy a 2017 Prius but the ones that are <100k are ~$22k specifically because they don't depreciate.

If i had even more money I would buy the new 5th gen at like <10k miles but those start at ~$29k

[hard sandal]

The only issue with buying a slightly older car is that it’s gonna have maintenance that has to be done possibly repairs too depending on how well maintained they are

[wraith rivet]

prob the second option lol

[hexed kayak]

i bought a 20 year old car with 300k on it and its only needed 27$ in repairs over 2 years

doesnt even have an engine light

the ad for the car just said "good car runs well" and nothing else

car also has no service history

Even gets really good city milage
Its at about 323k now but i had to change the cluster

[hard sandal]

Garuntee that it has issues that the ECM doesn’t throw a light for, 100% garuntee it, and if not you’ve had the biggest stroke of luck ever, early 2000’s were terrible in every way shape and form for reliability across damn near every manufacturer aside from a small handful of makes and models

[hexed kayak]

i have a laptop with the volvo dealer software on it. theres nothing wrong with it

[hard sandal]

Software =/= diagnostic doesn’t matter how good it is

[hexed kayak]

and 00s cars being unreliable is downright false

[hard sandal]

It’s absolutely is not false I work on them every single day at work

[hexed kayak]

and ive driven more than a dozen up to over 500k

[hard sandal]

I mean, okay? And? You can drive anything to that mileage even a Ferrari if you have the pockets for it

There’s not a single day goes by that i don’t do some sort of repair on a car from late 90’s to mid 2000’s

[hexed kayak]

you ever think thats because they are 20-30 years old

[hard sandal]

All imma say is it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that out

[hexed kayak]

you have probably never touched anything more advanced than an obd scanner if you think this

[hard sandal]

My point is that they break down constantly, they rot out, they have poor build quality, early 2000’s cars aren’t the pinnacle of automotive engineering

[unborn pebble]

I'm sorry i didnt mean to start a fight lol

[hard sandal]

I have, I’ve used Vida before on my own Volvo when I had it, software doesn’t tell you everything it points you in a direction to what the problem might be

Even if you’re looking at all the data from this that or the other

[hexed kayak]

ive onwed nothing but 00s cars my whole life and not one of these things has ever been an issue 💀

especially back in the 00s

[hard sandal]

Literally all of them are made with the most garbage plastics on the planet, Mitsubishi Chrysler, GM,and bmw being the worst examples of it

[hexed kayak]

all of my cars are known to be "prone to rust" and are somehow rust free.
people just need to learn to take care of their shit

[hard sandal]

And they almost all use cheap metal that rots out, i see it constantly

[hexed kayak]

every car on the entire planet will rust out if you dont take care of it

[hard sandal]

Everything I’ve said about them is common knowledge it’s just how they are the fact that you’ve not had an issue is good for you but that doesn’t change the millions of cars that do have the issues

[hexed kayak]

if people were smart enough to oil the bodies of their car form day one rust would never be an issue

[hard sandal]

So you’re just out here pouring oil on your car

Because that’s what you just said

[hexed kayak]

i dont think its possible for you to have taken that any more literally

[hard sandal]

Enlighten me on what you mean by oiling the body then

Because that sounds like your rubbing oil on the fenders

[hexed kayak]

you work on cars every day but have never heard of anti rust oil spray

or cosmoline

metal only rots if you sit on your ass and let it

[hard sandal]

Fuckin cosmoline 😂 holy hell what was your first girlfriend a triceratops 🤣 good lord, you mean undercoat, that you have to reapply every year or every other year anyway

That stuff works until you live somewhere that sees more snow than sun I have buddies up north that use it and it helps but it doesn’t completely stop it

[hexed kayak]

undercoat is wax oir rubber based not petroleum

[hard sandal]

There is oil based undercoat my guy

Regardless of any of this, that doesn’t change the fact that those cars rust faster than older and newer cars with or without it

[hexed kayak]

its still not undercoating. i used to work in a place that did rust proofing and every single panel is removed from the car so the only part of it that isnt covered is the visible paint

everything is taken off short of pulling the interior and motor

[hard sandal]

You’re unique experience doesn’t change anything about it early 2000’s cars are known to have issues electrical, mechanical, rust, paint, interior plastics, they aren’t fantastic vehicles

[hexed kayak]

and usually last 10 years before needing to be redone

the car will still have paint on the frame rails when its 30 though

[hexed kayak]

and your describing issues that are common on cars of nearly every decade

electrical issues and plastic issues are esspecially common on new cars

[hard sandal]

Paint gets chipped a lot in 30 years from rocks, various road debris, bottoming out on potholes and whole slew of things

[hexed kayak]

and they are only gonna get shittier as more electronics get added

[hexed kayak]

old cars from before the 80s were unreliable as fuck and built by people who were piss drunk

[hard sandal]

Plastics aren’t near as much of an issue in vehicles produced now or even 10 years ago as they were 20 years ago, and yeah they have like 4 times as much electronics now compared to before so more of the issues are going to be electrical but they aren’t using like for example biodegradable wiring that Mercedes used

[hard sandal]

Every decade of vehicle has issues yes, but they are worse on those cars is my point

[hard sandal]

They really weren’t, until you go back to the 40’s and earlier, 50’s up until the malaise era was pretty solid they were just more of a pain to maintain because you couldn’t just slap a coil pack and some spark plugs in it you had to set points and set ignition timing and adjust valves etc., you don’t have to do that on modern engines

[hexed kayak]

they were. cars were getting okay at the end of the 60s and then the gas crisis bomb runined the reliability for the next 20 years cause companies had to figure out emissions equipment and efficiency

[hard sandal]

They used the same engines and mostly the same transmissions from the 50’s up till the 70’s just changed the bodies and then like you said emissions, but they figured that out for the most part by the 80’s but the 80’s were plagued with the same issues 00’s were plagued with

[hexed kayak]

big blocks didnt go from making 400hp to making 120 and burning their valves for no reason

[hard sandal]

Big blocks also didn’t make 400hp using the same rating system as that 120

It was still substantially higher but it wasn’t 400

Horsepower is calculated differently than it used to be and the numbers have changed

I can’t remember exactly but I think it was around 300 after the change in how it’s calculated

Anyway it’s 3:35am and I need to be up in 2 hours so imma dip

[hexed kayak]

the numbers im talking about are for the same car and 4 years apart

from 1971 to 75 the chevelle lost roughly 180hp

and according to my grandpa he raised is family on the money he made from fixing the fucked up heads of gas crisis era v8s

he said he did mostly short block rebuilds until the emissions equipment came out

[dawn shell]

Then again, it's also entirely possible that the mechanic noticed it (I highly doubt they didn't) and let the customer know - While the Mechanic may tell the cusomer that a car is unsafe to drive, they have no right to force repairs or replacements on the customer. It's not up to the mechanic to determine whether the car is roadworthy or not

[dawn shell]

I would just skip Hybrids in general if you're worried about maintenance cost. Once they go, it's a pain in the ass to fix

2016 is 8 years ago. Both batteries will be hitting the decade mark in 2 years...

The battery is the main thing to watch for. you have to consider how much of that 90k on the Lexus was done on the original battery and how much is on the replacement

For all we know the Lexus might have less wear on its systems than the Chevy

[eager grove]

This is terrible all around advice

Toyota hybrids have been some of the most reliable drive trains of the past 25 years

They’ve been making them since the 90s, they run forever, and drive train wise will run as long as anything. There’s no special extra maintenance you need to do, nothing

[hard sandal]

Not entirely true, they have their own cooling system and what not for the electric motor

[shell mountain]

@dawn shell

Rate the startup

[dawn shell]

The special extra maintenance is the fact you have a battery nearing a decade old

Once it wears out, it's 1.7k to replace the battery + however much labour cost if you don't replace it yourself

[eager grove]

Which needs what kind of maintenance? It’ll have lost some capacity, but it doesn’t need maintaining

There are Priuses with 200k miles on the clock still with the original battery, still doing 50 to the gallon

[dawn shell]

the battery just gives out - it's not mainteneance it's a wear component, one that wears with age

[dawn shell]

Sounds like an old tacoma

or any truck with a long bed

That's a ranger right?

[shell mountain]

Ew

No

[dawn shell]

150?

[shell mountain]

F150 with the coyote

[dawn shell]

(I'm not into Trucks despite being Albertan)

Ahh

[shell mountain]

Ew

[dawn shell]

Imma be honest with you I'm not a fan of the 8cyl growl

[shell mountain]

Laughs in living close to linesus

[shell mountain]

Fair