cars

[rugged lynx]

all i have to do is make those old gm i6 blocks from the 50s rev to 15k lol

[civic spoke]

https://youtu.be/FJ8R4tYbX5w

[fathom socket]

Fuck it
3.0L V12

[dull cedar]

buy mx-5
buy G16E from toyota
put G16E into mx-5

[slow kestrel]

my friends 1000 horse power build of a c32a type 2 engine from a 1991-1995 acura legend

[rugged lynx]

the fastest fwd honda is running a v6 something

with stock bottom end lmao

[slow kestrel]

most honda's are front wheel drive

other then the nsx and the s2000 which has the engine mounted in the rear

im sure there are more hondas that have the engine mounted in the rear but im too lazy to look it up

[rugged lynx]

i think bikes can cheat with the sound since their exhaust is about | | that long

[rugged lynx]

there isnt a lot of info about resonant frequencies of an exhaust system and how to tune them

[slow kestrel]

"car"

[rugged lynx]

you cant part there

[slow kestrel]

i have an itch to buy another parts car

[halcyon grotto]

something about equal length exhaust manifold + big paipe

[rugged lynx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaH9MVoitE0
been a few years, i think they got over 200 mph

[rugged lynx]

yeah but nothing on the length and how it changes sound usually

what mufflers do, what x pipe does, what y pipe does

the ones that scream usually have 1 pipe or its joined together with an x

boom tubes probably raise resonant frequency since its bigger around

pffft

[dusk ocean]

@compact grotto i take my f80 out like 6 times a year and run into this dude

[compact grotto]

damn that looks like an SVJ

[charred depot]

rear arm bearing failing quite bad on the back left, not sure how that could have happened :^)

[dusk ocean]

Svj roadster

[charred depot]

I really need to get a trailer and stop putting slightly heavy stuff in the boot of cars

[civic spoke]

You even have a tow hitch...

Getting a cheap 750 kg trailer would be worth it.

[charred depot]

lower speed limits though :^ |

[halcyon grotto]

nick a trolly and put the engine in that job done

make sure its a good trolley though

[civic spoke]

80 kmh isn't that bad. You'll save on fuel.

[halcyon grotto]

I think it be 60mph in the uk

[civic spoke]

Here in Sweden you're limited to 80 kmh at least.

[charred depot]

basically -10mph

[civic spoke]

That's nothing.

[charred depot]

so 60 in the 70 50 in the 60.

[civic spoke]

Yeah, that's nothing.

[charred depot]

I got a bit complacent on the way back with the low traffic and started doing 76 through a 60 average speed zone. As it changed from a dual carriageway to single and I wasnt fully awake

took a break in a layby before the next camera heh

[civic spoke]

An hour drive becomes what? Not even 10 minutes longer.

[dusk ocean]

X3M that's a spec I am ok with but not elated about or wait for X5M that I really want?

[civic spoke]

Go with what you really want?
Else I feel you would regret it.

[charred depot]

was basically a 9 hour trip

Window down slightly over the limit got 34mpg, I was expecting like 28 as its a garbage petrol.

[civic spoke]

What a stupid law. Honestly.

[halcyon grotto]

stupid in the too fast way?

or just confusing

[civic spoke]

Here you're can just go at most 80 kmh. (Or the speed limit.)

[charred depot]

What is more annoying is the van speed limits

having to do 60 just because you are in a van

[civic spoke]

Just confusing.

[halcyon grotto]

yeah I could see that

I swear they changed it to include the street lighting part at some point

[civic spoke]

Remember KISS.

[charred depot]

just consult the table simple as : )

one sign without a number fits all

[dusk ocean]

Just haven't seen Atlantis blue X5M show up in a long time

[charred depot]

Weird in inverness seeing signs that explicitly said 60 on them rather than just the NSL sign

[halcyon grotto]

I think there's some of those near me somewhere

might be the bypass

[charred depot]

was just a normal B road though

[halcyon grotto]

huh

[charred depot]

Some car with german plates I think thought when the passing lane is present its a 70, (its still 60 as theres no barrier) wonder if they will get a fine or not due to brexit.

[civic spoke]

Goods trucks here are limited to 90 kmh.

80 kmh if they are towing anything.

[charred depot]

they are limited here aswell but can legally use a hill to get up to 60 I guess heh.

[civic spoke]

Essentially. If you're towing anything = Max 80 kmh.

[civic spoke]

I may, or may not have seen 110 kmh on my speedo.

[charred depot]

criminal behaviour

[stoic ledge]

They should be limited but sometime I still see trucks doing 100+ km/h on speedometer

[compact grotto]

Only two for sale in a 6-spd within 300mi of me. These are still so expensive. The automatics are like half the price.

People that bought manuals are holding on to them.. and evidently not driving them.

[dusky torrent]

someone needs to do an experiment on why the typical american doesnt want to drive a stick shift while the typical european doesnt mind a stick shift

[charred depot]

Just what people learn in, my parents can barely fathom an automatic.

[fathom socket]

Yep
99% of the people I know have never even seen a stick, let alone driven one

[coarse jewel]

Try a WRX, over 70% sold are sticks

Also they're cheaper than that new

I almost refuse to drive auto, manual is much easier for me to focus with my ADHD

only thing with WRX is the clutch only lasts about 70k miles but it's only $2k to get it replaced by the dealership, that's in CAD so about $1500 USD. Headgasket gets about 200k miles but if you watch the oil color and get it swapped before it blows than it's relatively cheap.

Tranny on 2007-2015 is a little glassy with a rev hang issue but that was fixed on 2016 and later. And wasn't an issue before 2007.

[fathom socket]

Dang that’s crazy
Already drive stick though

It’s not a personality trait

[dusk ocean]

I know what they're about... but.... Still pass

[nova quarry]

@dull cedar when you were asking about my forza wallpaper earlier. 🙂

[halcyon grotto]

it IS a personality

they call me the Stick Shifter (I stick shift btw)

[compact grotto]

I have my concerns for you as a car person if you don't think the SS in a stick is cool

[sharp hearth]

My dream car build is 1955 Ford thunderbird restomod

[wraith rivet]

this

+people are lazy so they don’t feel like learning a new thing when what they have going already works

[fathom socket]

It’s not even a lazy thing
Sticks are rare in the US at this point

[hexed kayak]

Im in panic mode now

[fathom socket]

So switch to eco mode

[hexed kayak]

Ive had a year to get my car ready for a 1900km road trip

Im leaving on the morning of the 18th and im just getting to it

[fathom socket]

lol

[dusk ocean]

It's an M3 with a shittier interior lol

[halcyon grotto]

nice lol

still at least you got a couple days

[compact grotto]

If it was the price it should be we'd have something.. aka half the price of an M3

[hexed kayak]

Had to take put my retrofit lights out and use all the lights i have laying around to make a functional set of stock lights. Im not gambling with them and cops in another country

[dusk ocean]

Yes but with 1/5 the amount of vinyl/leather vs plastic

[hexed kayak]

Ive got red in the lens and who knows what the cops in detroit will do about it

[dusk ocean]

@compact grotto don't disagree but like... Chevy screwed it up. Also could be said for Kia Stinger

[fathom socket]

It’s big engine in sedan, what more could you want in 2006

[compact grotto]

Which.. every time I see one I have to stop and look. So cool.

[dusk ocean]

Friend has one. It's cool until you see the valve cover. Then you're reminded.

[hexed kayak]

If you are talking about the commodore turned chevy ss then They didnt screw the car up at all. Its an amazing car. They just didn’t advertise any further than their website and then went “sales are poor. Lets kill it”

[dusk ocean]

It's like ahz right for a second I forgot this was a Korean knock off thanks for reminding me

[dusk ocean]

They screwed up. They let their customer base kill it.

[compact grotto]

We say we want that car, but no one actually buys it.

Classic us.

[dusk ocean]

Exactly

They let it be that way

[hexed kayak]

Because they say “they want that car. Build it and sell it for more money than normal because of interest”

All the cars people want are cheap performance vehicles but companies try to capitalize on it turning what could be a fun affordable car into an overpriced one for what it is

Corolla gr for example

[fathom socket]

Dealership moment
Focus RS died because of it

Dumbasses at Honda wouldn’t even let me sit in a type r, let alone test drive it. So I bought a miata instead. Their loss

[halcyon grotto]

rip focus RS

[hexed kayak]

Back when they were making my car the cobalt ss you could walk off the lot with a car that makes 260hp has launch control,bembo brakes with a top speed of 160mph and multiple lap records for 22k

[halcyon grotto]

what will the boy racers buy now

VW UP GTI?

sorry, UP!

[fathom socket]

You joke but seriously
You market a car for the 20-40 demographic and then price them out? And then don’t even let the ones who CAN afford it test drive? Yeah it’s gonna fail

[hexed kayak]

The guy a the dealership when i was looking for a cobalt ss (when they were new) didnt even wait for me to ask he just saw me looking at it and tossed me the keys and we went out he even told me to do a clutch dump on the launch control.

[fathom socket]

😔

[hexed kayak]

Shits changed in 15 years

Car has held up though

Cant say the same for new ones

Seats are fucked up at 100k km

[halcyon grotto]

how much even is a up gti

[fathom socket]

No idea, we don’t have the UP here

[halcyon grotto]

pain

[hexed kayak]

Probably like £17k

From what found on google

[hexed kayak]

Nvm 0$ i guess

[halcyon grotto]

free car 👀

shame it was kinda cool

[fathom socket]

£17k what the fuck

I WISH we had cards that cheap here

[halcyon grotto]

when it first came out it was 13k

so that's nice

any youngun would just buy used I think now

or an electric car

[fathom socket]

The absolute cheapest car for sale in the US is a mitsubishi mirage for $18k

[halcyon grotto]

is there any additional tax on it after taht?

[fathom socket]

Yes

[halcyon grotto]

simply buy a v70

[fathom socket]

We don’t have that anymore

[halcyon grotto]

used

noone has that anymore

[fathom socket]

$8000 for one with 150k miles

[halcyon grotto]

not bad considering US used prices being stupid

I got mine in fairly nice condition (although only the petrol engine) for a mere £1800

[hexed kayak]

V70s are like half that here in canada

My s60 was 3k

[hexed kayak]

.

Lift device attached

[fathom socket]

1000 miles away from me too

[halcyon grotto]

ye but murican prices are meh atm

[fathom socket]

They’re extortionate

Our local toyota dealer has nothing under 30K

[hexed kayak]

Just gonna casually drive montreal to detroit blasting this on repeat

[wraith rivet]

Oh my god no

please no Cher

that sound system sounds bumpin though

[slim tree]

new sports cars startin to look more and more like vacuum computer mice

[rugged lynx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CcWhj96rTg

[hexed kayak]

Maybe eurobeat then and its got a full system

[rugged lynx]

damn that shits bumpen

i got a cheap system in my buick lol

6th order bandpass with walmart parts

amp maybe makes 300 watts

i should have routed the ports through the rear deck. i took the rear seat out and it was way louder

[hexed kayak]

You should look into kicker

They make some pretty affordable speakers

[rugged lynx]

they have walmart speakers

[hexed kayak]

All the speakers in both my cobalt ss and volvo s60 are kickers and the subs in my cobalt are blaupunkt

[obsidian magnet]

dual audio

used to run their subs but they blew

pretty good for what they were

[rugged lynx]

i have some cheap boss crap loaded isobaric since their motors are so weak

dual is a bit better but their 12" needs a box twice as big as what i got there

so big you could just get a $100 15" woofer in there and have it work right

[obsidian magnet]

in my car now but I run audiopipe and rockville

[rugged lynx]

the setup i have is equivalent to 2 10" woofers on 600 watts in a ported box

[obsidian magnet]

I have two 2500w 12 inch subs in a ported box on a 8000w amp but Im sure its not literally 8k

it does like 2000rms or something

[hexed kayak]

This is the stock 6 speaker 2 tweeter factory system in my 04 s60 with just a aftermarket unit vs 2 stock tweeters and 4 6.5in kicker dsc speakers

[fathom socket]

Audiofrog>>>>

[rugged lynx]

different box, this one has about 5db more sensitivity to it

thats about 200 watts

[hexed kayak]

Plus a 1000w 4 channel pioneer amp

[hexed kayak]

I used to love really high power bass but now i just hate the fact i can hear it

[dusky torrent]

driving with 2 feet in an automatic is incorrect?

[rugged lynx]

omg yes

[hexed kayak]

I want to barely hear the subs and just feel the pulse in my chest

[hexed kayak]

Unless you are an awd rally god

[rugged lynx]

there is bass shakers for seats

[hexed kayak]

But you probably arent

[hexed kayak]

They arent the same

[dusky torrent]

thats weird

[hexed kayak]

I just need a sub that moves alot of air with each push

And a really well designed and heavily dampened box

[dusky torrent]

i just use this technique when sim racing called trail braking. i'm used to two foot braking you know. so that just translated into my real world driving

[hexed kayak]

My problems right now are is the car makes more noise than the sub when the bass hitd

Hits

[fathom socket]

We’ve got some audiofrog G60s for the front door and tweeter, GS62 in the rear doors, and a sony 12” es sub in the rear of our crosstour all running through a 6 channel audiocontrol amp

[rugged lynx]

i bet you would like infinite baffle woofers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLVfqgOlFUs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzDLYFq_73g

less punch but all the rumble

[hexed kayak]

Thats what i like. I want to get a collapsed lung not go deaf

[dusky torrent]

do you guys actually put huge subwoofers in ur cars?

[rugged lynx]

ib has less max db but they are known to dig way lower.

also no box taking up space

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps6S95pQ6cE

[fathom socket]

Depends on the car.
Our crosstour has a 12” sony sub in it, but my miata has no sub

I’m not a loud = good person. Good = good

[rugged lynx]

nice thing about ib, you can use the crappiest woofers since motor strength is less of an issue

[dusky torrent]

why do u need one tho

[rugged lynx]

and you have less power handling anyway with ib

[dusky torrent]

show car?

[rugged lynx]

some of us like music?

[fathom socket]

For us the audiofrogs are cut off at 120hz, and the sub fills in beneath that

[rugged lynx]

the setup i run focuses on a lot of mid bass and extends down to about 28ish hz, which is still way lower than a lot of prefabs

[dusky torrent]

ah ok. frick music listening in the car. i listen to wind and tire noise

[fathom socket]

Same in the miat it’s just a dsp and amp driving the stock speakers

[dusky torrent]

maybe it's bc i'm a new driver and i need fewer distractions

[hexed kayak]

That car has an amazing system

I though it was a audio recording added in at the end

[rugged lynx]

real world measurement of what i run. its not flat. bose does this too

[dusky torrent]

my car has what i'd say a better than average sound system

[rugged lynx]

that hump around 50ish hz sells units i guess

[fathom socket]

Bose 🤢

[dusky torrent]

my mom's car has a meridian system and it's amazing

my dad's is mid

[fathom socket]

Yea meridian is the shit

They don’t fuck around

[rugged lynx]

i might shorten the port somehow its tuned a bit lower than it should be

[hexed kayak]

Thats what I thought till i upgraded

Now im like man this is dookie

And my car came with a pioneer system with a sub from the factory

The cobalt ss

[dusky torrent]

it's pretty amazing. when my sister and her friends blast rap in the back, i can move the bass to the rear of the car so the front doesnt get loud bass

[rugged lynx]

small 6th order ~1 cubic foot.

8" dayton

https://www.parts-express.com/Dayton-Audio-DCS205-4-8-Classic-Subwoofer-4-Ohm-295-200

[hexed kayak]

This is the stock cobalt ss sound system

[rugged lynx]

use to be $55 in 2019....

[dusky torrent]

my car probably has harman kardons but all it said on the options list was 'bmw premium sound system'

[hexed kayak]

What year bmw

[dusky torrent]

2011

[rugged lynx]

sometimes i throw decaf that digs too low at it and i forget its an 8". its already doing a lot lol

[hexed kayak]

The video i just sent of the stock cobalt system uses an 8in

Maybe i 10 I forget

[rugged lynx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw7u1pnykfk

it plays that fine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSfaMNqyXUM

doesnt play that fine lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYWCSoFLZE

has a strong 30hz output though

all that from an 8" with low excursion. box magic

id make a smaller setup but if you could do this with a bandpass it would thump just fine on 300 watts

[rugged lynx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwGKb9EvOMk

movie bass

[rugged lynx]

my mic cant pic up bass 😦

[hexed kayak]

Can you hear the bass in my video?

[rugged lynx]

oh yeah but the phone i have now just records farts

sewer pipe 4th order i experimented with

ironically the best sounding one i made it just couldnt play below 35hz very well

[hexed kayak]

I cant even see the sub moving bit the whole building is shaking

[rugged lynx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ooAFH1_e9w

i want an epicenter

[rugged lynx]

ported?

at tuning the woofers wont move much

im thinking about making something like that for my delsol. there is no good spot for woofers

have to build something custom behind the seats that sits on the rear shelf

and use maybe 1 cubic foot total

there is some woofers with a smaller vas that can work with that though

[rugged lynx]

ooo american bass

[hexed kayak]

Paired with a capacitor from Canadian tire

[rugged lynx]

yeah their stuff slams

and its cheap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw6GIEGpVdc

almost no ones box is tuned low enough for this so dont crank the volume

i dont hear much on that low note lol but i can hear my woofer trying to do something

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtsIO3j3wuw

[wispy cloak]

My phone can't record the mirrors shaking

😢

Also the mic just dies

Tragic

My setup isn't crazy or anything

Two sundown 12s

Rated for 1000w rms but I'm running them with a 1200w amp

[rugged lynx]

sundowns slap

if you can find the right frequency th e mirrors will probably move more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KoPaXHSvg8

genz or millennials?

[plucky flame]

Guys look what i found

A combination loves and dennys

[hexed kayak]

Always nice to find out that your car is the type to be chopped apart for use in advertising

[wispy cloak]

They move a lot but it's just so fast my phone can't capture it

[dusky torrent]

when will we see another f1 season like 2021? 🥱😔

even tho i like seeing max winning, it's kinda boring bc every race he fucks off into the distance and wins by 20 seconds

[fathom socket]

I wish there were less build rules.
Safety I get, but just set a budget limit and let them go ham

[ember bobcat]

primordial soup going on between the bell housing and oil pan

bmw life

right after a clutch job too this is truly great

[dusk ocean]

I know a bmw oil pan when I see one

M50 engine, or M52, S50, S52

@ember bobcat that fluid color is interesting

Did you do the rear main seal while the flywheel was off?

[ember bobcat]

M52B28

[ember bobcat]

yes i did the rear main

[dusk ocean]

Did you replace the cover or just the seal

[ember bobcat]

just the seal

[dusk ocean]

I've got a lot of M5x engines and I used to replace the seal... they now sell the cover WITH the seal because the covers warp

[ember bobcat]

hm

[ember bobcat]

well i mean the thing is it wasnt even leaking before i dont think

and the install was perfect

[dusk ocean]

Right, but now....

I know, just keep it in mind - I've been here haha

[ember bobcat]

yea

also as far as tue color it is weird

[dusk ocean]

looks like hydraulic fluid

[ember bobcat]

i thought it was transmission fluid at first

[dusk ocean]

yah

maybe slave cylinder leaking?

[ember bobcat]

at night with a flashlight pointed it looks red

but at daytime it looks like orange

pastel orange

[ember bobcat]

dont think so, fluid level seems great

it couldnt have leaked out that much and still felt the same

[dusk ocean]

Yah tough call

it almost looks like rust

You didn't muck with the coolant line at the back of the head or anyting right

[ember bobcat]

nope

[dusk ocean]

There's that cast aluminum guy that bolts on

yeah weird - maybe buy a small scope camera, there are the clutch inspection holes

Sooner than later in case its throwing oil around on the inside

[ember bobcat]

yea this is real convenient because ive had it up for sale for a bit and someone is really keen on buying it

now i feel guilty

really dont wanna take the transmission out again you know

[eager grove]

Some not-very-nice-person knocked off my bloody wing mirror this morning

what a ballache

local place will fix next day for £70, and I spent less than £90 on a new one with motors and heating so not all bad

[charred depot]

$155 dolhairs for a seal

[fathom socket]

What kind of seal is that

[dull cedar]

the seal and the entire cover, the gasket for the cover, and all the hardware to attach it

car parts arent cheap

[charred depot]

I have cars you most things are out of production for, I wouldn't be caught dead paying $150 for a cover heh

[ember bobcat]

what??

[charred depot]

?

[tired sundial]

It made no since

I crack rim

[charred depot]

What makes no sense

[tired sundial]

You wouldn’t be caught dead???

[charred depot]

its a figuire of speech maybe not common outside of Scotland

[tired sundial]

Hmm

[ember bobcat]

they say glasgows fully of speccy bams

[tired sundial]

I’ll pay 2.50 for your Peugeot

🙂

[charred depot]

Scrap values up sorry

[ember bobcat]

8 inch rim lil

lol

[tired sundial]

It’s a e scooter it’s probably cracked when I ramped it

[tired sundial]

Oh I forgot to add the inflation cost

That’s gona bring it up to 252.50

I can’t afford that

I broke myself

[fathom socket]

Thought you were bragging about making 6 figures

[tired sundial]

Yea

I just spent 75 + tax

[ember bobcat]

was able to scrape some of the gunk off

interesting stuff

[tired sundial]

Hmmm was that from my moms crack

[misty mantle]

If thats in your cooling system you may want to flush it

[wispy cloak]

You know who also has an m52

[fathom socket]

My mom?

[wispy cloak]

I do

Two of them in fact

[tired sundial]

Yea she the reason I’m dumb

[misty mantle]

Oh yeah, you just hauled a engine home for one of them, didnt you?

[wispy cloak]

Yep

[misty mantle]

Or was that for work?

[wispy cloak]

For my car

[fathom socket]

Awesome

[wispy cloak]

It's still in my truck actually

[misty mantle]

Figured.

[tired sundial]

^

[ember bobcat]

heres one of the orange drops

i thought it was liquid but its solid

[misty mantle]

Whats that out of?

Cooling system?

[fathom socket]

Yikes

[ember bobcat]

junction bwtween bell housing

[tired sundial]

Yummy

[ember bobcat]

and pil pan

oil

[misty mantle]

It looks like liquid rust

[ember bobcat]

i know i have an oil pan gasket leak so best case scenario its from that

but wjy tf is it orange there

[tired sundial]

Because why not

[ember bobcat]

specific next to the bell housing

[tired sundial]

Are you alive

[dusk ocean]

could really be caked/gunk oil leak mixed with transmission fluid or something

I would clean it off and see how fast it comes back

[fathom socket]

Dirt

[ember bobcat]

weirdly its also only on one side of the transmission

[misty mantle]

It would be red then

[ember bobcat]

the other side is completely cleab

[dusk ocean]

No, not if its mixing with crap

[fathom socket]

Not if it’s mixed with dirt

[misty mantle]

Fair

[tired sundial]

Why no reply

[dusk ocean]

otherside is always clean - engine is canted over

[ember bobcat]

yea but the transmission is level

if it was coming from the transmission side it should be even

[dusk ocean]

yes but the leak would be the input shaft seal in trans

or the slave

and flinging around

and then its gravity

[ember bobcat]

hard to see but the gunk stops exactly at the centerline of the trans

clean metal after that

[misty mantle]

Oh, its a manual.

[dusk ocean]

There's a number of places trans can leak

E36 😦

[ember bobcat]

well if its coming from the bellhousing then the only place mtf would come out of is the input shaft

in that case it should be an even spread

not to one side

[misty mantle]

Most forein thing I have worked on is the engine in my ranger since its a mazda motor

and I'm selling that

[tired sundial]

Yea would you have money for another car after buying one?

[dusk ocean]

@fathom socket when fluid leaks in the bell housing there is a ton of whippage that goes on, it splatters everywhere, picks up all the gunk from clutch dust, and then finds its way to the the flywheel/block and drips "down" which is the right side of the block

not saying that's it, but just could be

[fathom socket]

Mazda motor >>>> ford 4 banger at the time

[ember bobcat]

i guess

[dusk ocean]

I may have a photo of one hang on

[ember bobcat]

still think at least something would reach the other side

not absolutely nothing

[dusk ocean]

No nothing will reach that other side

[ember bobcat]

well

[dusk ocean]

its like literally always a leak/drip on the right side

[ember bobcat]

now im just curious why the input shaft is even leaking

it didnt leak before

[dusk ocean]

unless its leaking SO bad its dripping out of the trans

[ember bobcat]

not to my knowledge

[misty mantle]

Seal could be chewed up or just old

[dusk ocean]

Yah so first you need to find out what it is

then we can talk about why

Did you replace pilot bearing?

[ember bobcat]

yes

[dusk ocean]

How aggressive did you need to get in order to get splined shaft thru the clutch/flywheel/pilot?

[ember bobcat]

not aggressive at all it was like butter getting it all in

[dusk ocean]

ok that's good

[ember bobcat]

most annoying part was the dowel on the starter

e36 thing

[dusk ocean]

yah I think E34 is two bolts

and nut

or at least bolts

@ember bobcat

so that was a leaking slave cyl

almost NOTHING from the starter side of the housing

you have to rotate the trans like 45 deg in your head

[ember bobcat]

theres still some gunk past the centerline

[dusk ocean]

Yep - but it threw me off, ebcause nothiung came out the "bottom"

[ember bobcat]

but yea i guess mostly on the opposite end

[dusk ocean]

only on the same side as yours

[ember bobcat]

what color was your fluid

[dusk ocean]

If it flows juice at idle or off it will come out the bottom of course

well... I have no idea - I think I was using royal purple

I use redline/royal purple, no idea what was in it at that point though

love soda blasting

[ember bobcat]

this is a fun development turns out the mtf fluid i used is orange

though it looks more yellow

its not that orange

man wtf is that

[tired sundial]

Piss

[timber oar]

You sure you aren't using monster as your atf

Monster looks like that

[misty mantle]

This is a manual

[timber oar]

I read ATF lmao

My bad

My point still stands lol

[charred depot]

Just use ATF : )

[misty mantle]

I mean, you COULD use monster, but it may not end well for your transmission

And your mechanic would probably question your sanity

[random siren]

many manual transmissions use ATF; yes older ones used a heavy gear oil - this isn't the 60s anymore though.

[misty mantle]

My '87 Bronco II uses gear oil

Then again, thats still older

My dad has a '23 Bronco with the 7-speed manual. I'll have to look at the manual for that and see what fluid it takes

[random siren]

Yep, old truck transmission... 90s they started doing engine oils in manuals, the weights kept going down decade by decade

Think it was my exploder that used atf in the 5spd... My first introduction to it, felt strange lol

[deep zealot]

This car is great fun

[dusky torrent]

im surprised its fun for a modern bmw suv

[fathom socket]

Yea personally can’t stand modern BMW’s drive

[misty mantle]

Until you have to work on it

[deep zealot]

Won’t have to, very reliable car

[misty mantle]

BMWs and reliability dont mix

[deep zealot]

then you’re not with the times

[misty mantle]

I drive old fords

[deep zealot]

Yeah makes sense

BMW has been reliable for a few years now

[misty mantle]

Of course toyota is at the top of the list

[deep zealot]

Yep

even toyota is using BMW engines and components now

[misty mantle]

Mainly with the Supra

And they also rebadged a Subaru

[deep zealot]

both of them are joint ventures

the Z4 and Supra are codeveloped

as was the 2nd gen 86

[misty mantle]

Ram should be down there with jeep due to the Chrysler issues that they share

[deep zealot]

Stellantis has terrible reliability

[misty mantle]

No kidding

Ford could be a bit further up but is understandable due to the new Bronco and F-150 transmission issues

Nissan is understandable considering how bad their CVTs are, and the Altimas, oh god the Altimas

How Lincoln is that far up I dont know considering those are literally rebadged Fords

Volvo is understandable

Tesla deserves that spot in my opinion

Chevy/GMC could be a bit further up with Caddilac

VW is understandable

[fathom socket]

BEEEE FIFTY EIGHT

[misty mantle]

Honda and Mazda deserve those spots, same with Toyota

[fathom socket]

Mazda has honestly skyrocketed since they split from ford

[misty mantle]

They made the most reliable engine the 2nd gen rangers ever got, at least in North America

The dual-plug 2.3 4-banger

[fathom socket]

Good times

[misty mantle]

Sad I'm selling my '97

[fathom socket]

I want a skyactive G truck

[deep zealot]

Best inline 6 in the world all things considered

if money wasnt an issue, S58 would take that crown

[random siren]

wait where's dodge on the list? i mean jeeps at the bottom and ram's not far up... but... lol

[deep zealot]

so far off the chart they couldnt fit it

in all seriousness, idk

[misty mantle]

Its just that bad

My dad was looking at a wrangler before he got his '23 Bronco, and boy am I happy he stayed with ford

It pained me to sit in that dealer

[fathom socket]

Yea the bronco has its issues sure, but it’s at least a new model

[misty mantle]

And its a manual

7-speed

with the 2.3 turbo

[fathom socket]

Ahhhhhh hell yeah

Too bad they got rid of the yellow option

[misty mantle]

he wanted a 2-door hard top, but our local ford dealer had this one on the lot. 4-door soft top with a dealer-installed lift and bead-lock wheels. Got it at sticker price because he knows a guy that works at the dealer that he buys fleet vehicles for his work through

[fathom socket]

That 2.3L is okay with the weight?

[misty mantle]

Yeah, its got some get up and go.

[fathom socket]

Makes sense given it has a longer stroke than a usual 4 cyl

[misty mantle]

He had looked at a 2-door hard top at a dealer a few hours away a few months ago, I think the sticker price was like $40k, and the dealer had put a $10k markup on it. My dad offered like $40k, and they laughed him out of the dealer

Its still sitting there as of last week

https://www.santosford.net/new/Ford/2023-Ford-Bronco-ed54cf190a0e094a1d9794a18d5cd7ad.htm

found it

@fathom socket

[fathom socket]

Honestly idgaf about the 4 door

I was trying to find a base, 2 door manual in yellow and lol, basically doesn’t exist

[charred depot]

I do wonder what this covers like it says change from last year, so is it covering 1 year old vehicles?

Id like to think reliability only came into question when stuff gets atleast 5 years old even then id maybe double that.

what volkwagen got a score of fucking 1 heh

I feel this more leans towards reliability in lease sort of life

[fathom socket]

Iirc it covers “total number of reported issues” so it’s a bit wonky.
Like you can have an engine explode but if that’s the only thing that goes wrong, it’s 1 thing wrong
Got 3 squeaky plastic parts in the cabin? Damn that’s 3 things wrong

Which sorta matters, but at the end of the day the more reliable brands have less overall issues anyway. I was just making an extreme example

[charred depot]

Grain of salt needed with everything, I do want to know what vw got 1 heh

[fathom socket]

So apparently the burning clutch disc smell did make my friend throw up

Meanwhile I was. What?

My car can't go up 15% hill without burning the clutch

[jolly veldt]

Hi car enjoyers, EU person here with a budget of 3500 euro looking to buy a car in the east eu market , i made a list with some cars i found and like can i get some opinions?
I have no kids and i am in my early 20s with a decent job
thank you

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hqBwsXjm0ZZjnMFzb972YWL9K-PeraKwVURhvhpLhUc/edit?usp=sharing

[fathom socket]

Can't go wrong with Toyota

Even the Yaris that wasn't well taken care of works fine even if it looks rough

[tired sundial]

Toyota got rid of v8

It’s now v6 tt

[dusky torrent]

and honda never made a production v8. trust me

[halcyon grotto]

where volvo

[tired sundial]

Yea that’s because Honda never needed them and Honda can’t make trucks

[tardy harbor]

im looking for one

to buy

but what I want is rare in my country 😦

[dusky torrent]

is honda just lame and losing to toyota?

no tacoma trd competitor

no land cruiser competitor

no sequoia competitor

the odyssey doesnt even have a hybrid powertrain. the sienna already has it

lexus imo makes better cars than acura

has acura ever made a v10 lfa competitor? nah jk the lfa was a very niche car

[misty mantle]

With Hondas background, I doubt they will make any hybrids or EVs

They make ATVs, bikes, lawnmowers, and generators on the side ffs

Toyota makes……. forklifts

[misty mantle]

Honda can’t make trucks CORRECTLY cough cough the Ridgeline

It’s literally a odyssey with a excuse of a “bed”

[stoic ledge]

But... Honda literally makes Hybrids? Jazz/Fit, Civic, HR-V, CR-V.. all available as Hybrid

Don't forget the Hybrid Supercar NSX 😛

And they were earlier to the party of EV's with the Honda e, and now they also have the e:Ny1 (very catchy name, almost as catchy as bZ4x of Toyota)

[eager grove]

Honda and Kia not putting hybrids in their minivans is baffling to me

the CR-V hybrid is significantly less effecient than the RAV4 hybrid, which makes no sense and is a significant demerit to Honda, for me

[dull cedar]

toyota's hybrid tech is simply just better

[eager grove]

It's better at being more fuel efficient, but it trades upsides in traction etc.

[tired sundial]

They have made more

@fathom socket

[languid spear]

How do i know if i need to add washer fluied in my audi b7

[stoic ledge]

If nothing comes out of it, it's empty
If it's still spraying washer fluids, it's not empty

Ngl, I just fill it from time to time

I don't wait for it to get empty

Sometimes a bit goes in, sometimes more

[tired sundial]

When you need blinker fluid

I agree with mk but if you want to run it tell it dry just don’t burn the motor it’s not a mandatory thing

[languid spear]

Ye but it shuld say in the dashboard cant figerout the symbol

[civic spoke]

Is there a digital display in that car?

[languid spear]

ye but a pixel one

thats why i said audi b7

[civic spoke]

Probably will show in that then. Tbh

[languid spear]

what can that symbol be like?

or animated symbol

[languid spear]

oh

txh

then its time 4 me

[misty mantle]

Fair, forgot about those lmao

[fathom socket]

Don’t forget the hybrid accord

In fact almost the entire lineup has hybrid options

[tired sundial]

Volcano

[tired sundial]

Anyone know how to unbend trailer toung

[misty mantle]

What did you fuck up?

[tired sundial]

I bent it

[misty mantle]

How

[tired sundial]

We’re the jack connects to the toung

I was using the trailer

I had to much weight in the front when I parked it

[misty mantle]

Thats why you unload it before you park it

[tired sundial]

🙂

[fathom socket]

First time seeing a truck?

[tired sundial]

I’m putting supplies in it

[tired sundial]

?

[dusky torrent]

W bmw driver

[obsidian magnet]

Hopefully that guy has tinnitus now

[winged frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/mercedes-benz-mercedes-amg-meme-funny-gif-24923771

[wraith rivet]

Lmaoooo

Huge w

[tired sundial]

I’ll be honest run them over realy slowly so it they don’t move the get hurt

[civic spoke]

WHAT

[fathom socket]

Probably has earplugs in (please god)

[vocal mural]

Hopefully not

[whole bane]

https://tenor.com/view/dababy-convertible-dababy-convertible-i-pull-up-pull-up-gif-20957985

[dull cedar]

🤤

[fathom socket]

Nice! I love $100k+ cars

[topaz vessel]

Would be funny if the dealer markup joke wasn't quite so on point.

[dull cedar]

sucks to be american

[obsidian magnet]

lucky it didnt shoot flames on him lol

[formal horizon]

I paid less than 50k altogether after markup, dealer fees, transport fees and tax

How much are you smoking to be paying 100k for a corolla

[fast sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-saab-saab95-walter-white-water-whit-gif-23825121

[fathom parrot]

spent less than 10k with no issues and low miles

[formal horizon]

10k NA

Also nice crop

[fathom socket]

Ask american dealerships

[formal horizon]

If you are paying 100k for a core, you might be the sped

Even for a morizo lol

My dealer wanted 80k for a morizo

[fathom socket]

The only toyota dealership with one here in texas is $130k

[formal horizon]

Smoking

Also untrue, have many htx friends and they've all sent me a few at 60k

[formal horizon]

That HAS to be a morizo tho

[fathom socket]

It’s a core

[formal horizon]

You're looking at the wrong places then

Only seen 1 core reach above 100k and it was a satire post

[fathom socket]

I was looking at the dealerships in DFW at launch

[formal horizon]

My buddy who bought at launch only paid 6k markup on it

So your info is outdated and very much untrue

[silk crystal]

Prob tacky but I like it

[fathom socket]

As long as you like it and it doesn’t impair other drivers, fuck it

[sleek inlet]

might as well auction this off then

[fathom socket]

I’ll give you $3.95

[wraith rivet]

Yooo wait whattt

how’d you do that?

I have the same car

and what do you guys think of the classic white on black combo on this car

on some cars it looks nice but on this idk how to feel about it

I could get gray silver or black but they’d be worse in the heat

[carmine summit]

black wheels are never the move

[silk crystal]

Based! And it's just led swaps, cheap on Amazon/eBay - DE3175 leds. The logo is also on eBay as a door flood light

[obsidian magnet]

black wheels look great after you clean them

as soon as you move like 10 feet the brake dust and whatever else shows

[fathom socket]

Say sike

[silk crystal]

BASED is it urs?

[fathom socket]

Ye

[silk crystal]

Hell yeah

[carmine summit]

try having white wheels

[silk crystal]

I always wave at a Miata

[carmine summit]

white wheels are so good but keeping them clean is literally impossible

[obsidian magnet]

After one rainy day

[crimson mirage]

what car did you guys take and drive to your driving test?

1999 toyota camry for me

'

[fathom socket]

2011 mazdaspeed 3

[crimson mirage]

nice

[fathom socket]

I hated that thing
It was a fucking nightmare to learn how to drive on

[stoic ledge]

Renault Clio IV 1.5 dCi

[silk crystal]

02 corolla

[wraith rivet]

2015 Mazda 6 😛

still on my first car lol

really want to get an Audi s4 next

[wraith rivet]

Ohh ok, it’s not one single unit? LED’s and actual shape projector are separate

[misty mantle]

Just had a ambulance go by with full lights and siren. Everyone on the road got over except for this one dumbass CRV that the ambulance was right behind

and no, I'm not the one driving.

[obsidian magnet]

2014 gt500

[silk crystal]

The flood light logo for the doors is just one unit with the LED already installed in the housing

[silk crystal]

@wraith rivet https://www.ebay.com/itm/304925932493

https://a.co/d/fGB745i

[slim lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1131720187977154560/1141187948352655360/Snapchat-2139259071.mp4

[cunning surge]

Some fun in my Porsche

[cunning surge]

I wish my Porsche had this engine

and exhaust

[sacred yoke]

https://fordauthority.com/2023/08/ford-to-debut-mid-engine-mustang-this-thursday-exclusive/

they are doing a WHAT

[wraith rivet]

maybe it’ll help people not slide into crowds, children, trees, power poles, etc.

[civic spoke]

Are we talking front-mid engine, or rear-mid?

[bright cliff]

How do we feel about Camaros

[sacred yoke]

But mid engined cars are harder to keep a slide going than front engined ones

[viscid atlas]

it more depends on weight ratio than engine placement

but yes by putting the engine in the middle youre also making the weight ratio more even, so it works out

[sturdy tree]

Would a better air filter actually increase performance?

[sacred yoke]

true

[sacred yoke]

depends on what you consider better, some air filters are worse at filtering but increase airflow

[viscid atlas]

my 911 sounds like SHIT

lmao

[sacred yoke]

my mr2 sounds surpisingly not like shit

and a lot like my 7a-fe celica

never fall for the 7age meme, it's not worth it these days

[sturdy tree]

Im looking into tuning my car, and some shops suggest getting a performance air filter, but idk if it's just a markup or if it actually does something (vw golf 6 1.2)

[sacred yoke]

you'd have to ask people for your specific car i guess, it's turbo isn't it?

[sturdy tree]

Yeah it's a turbo

86 horse power stock

[viscid atlas]

I mean my car is still broken so

[sacred yoke]

fun fact, there's a mod for the mr2 that gets you 7+ horse power for ~220 €

wild for an NA I think

[viscid atlas]

unpopular opinion, NA best

NA rocks

[sturdy tree]

Miata's are so cool 😄

But they are very slow (just like my car lol)

[sacred yoke]

NA as in naturally aspirated

but yeah the miata NA is good

I considered it but I got my mr2 for literally half the price a beat up miata goes for these days

[solar rapids]

Aftermarket air filters are often a waste of money. There's a negligible difference in performance, at the cost of destroying your engine.

[solar rapids]

Is it just a filter, or is it an intake with a tune? The tune will be what gives you your power; without it, the air filter is just an upsell.

[sturdy tree]

Not yet tuned

I just viewed a video, performance was like 3% max, and ppl in the comments also stated that after a while their engine will run badly cuz it let in too much shit

So I'll just stick to OEM filter

[solar rapids]

Yeah, filters are often blown out of proportion of how much they affect performance.

At the very least, stay away from both K&N and Fram.

[sturdy tree]

I'm just gonna stick with the stock filter. The tune I want is 86hp to 130-140ish. It'll be a huge difference I assume.

[solar rapids]

That's a massive increase. What car is it, and what are you planning on having done to it?

[sturdy tree]

it's a vw golf 6 with a 1.2 liter engine. It can be upgraded to 105hp with a software update (there's also a golf 6 with 105 out of the factory, same engine)

But stage 1 is 130-140hp

Without any hardware mods

[solar rapids]

What octane of fuel is available where you're at?

[sturdy tree]

Idk what the american equivelant is, but we have 95 and 98 here

[solar rapids]

Ah, you use RON instead of AKI.

[sturdy tree]

Yeah

[solar rapids]

Okay, 98 is 93.5. That's good.

[sturdy tree]

Shops recommend using 98 if you go stage 2 tho

95 is fine for stage 1 they said

The price difference is quite a lot, it's like 2 euro for 1 liter of 95, and like 2,30 for a liter of 98

[solar rapids]

Oof, yeah.

[sturdy tree]

Driving is expensive here 😦

full tank costs me about 90 euros

[solar rapids]

Jeez.

How long does a tank last you?

[sturdy tree]

About 750 km

[solar rapids]

Ay, that's pretty good at least.

[sturdy tree]

Yeah, those small engines are pretty efficient

[solar rapids]

How big is the tank?

[sturdy tree]

And road tax isn't too bad with light cars either

I'm not sure

lemme google

55 liter

[solar rapids]

If it's £2 a liter and £90 for a ta-

Ah, okay.

[sturdy tree]

I usually top it off before it goes in the red

Left is my new car, right is my old car

It's dusty cuz it was in the garage for like 2 months cuz it broke down and it had low prio to fix haha

sold it like a month ago

[solar rapids]

Just did the math and you get about 7.35L/100KM.

[sturdy tree]

It's about 16km/l, I would have to do some quick math to confirm it

[solar rapids]

7.35L/100KM is 13.6KM/L.

[sturdy tree]

I think it's a bit more efficient than that

[solar rapids]

16KM/L is 6.25L/100KM.

[sturdy tree]

15-17 depending on road conditions and the weight of my right foot

[solar rapids]

Ye.

That's good efficiency for both the size of the engine and the car.

[sturdy tree]

If I drive with efficiency in mind I can get 18km/l

But I would drive like a grandpa then haha

[solar rapids]

Yeah.

I gotta fix my car up and make it a bit more aerodynamic to hopefully increase fuel economy.

Best I can get is about 17.5L/KM.

[sturdy tree]

What car do you have?

[solar rapids]

Which country are you from? (It was called something different depending on the country.)

[sturdy tree]

I'm from the Netherlands

[solar rapids]

Okay, so you might know it as a 1989 Suzuki Swift.

[sturdy tree]

My cat approves btw

[sturdy tree]

Ahh those are fun cars

[sturdy tree]

We call them "koekblik"

aka tin cans

[solar rapids]

Lol, cool.

[sturdy tree]

Damn paint still looks fresh

[solar rapids]

Ye, it's pretty good for its age, and being in a somewhat salty place.

[sturdy tree]

A lot of old cars start to flake

Lemme see if I can get a pic from my first car, it was like 20 yrs old when I got it

[solar rapids]

I'm from Canada. The Swift was sold as a Chevrolet Sprint and Pontiac Firefly here, as well as a Swift.

[solar rapids]

Opel?

[sturdy tree]

Renault 19

[solar rapids]

Ohh, okay.

[sturdy tree]

Automatic and everything

No airco

400 euros, which was including a full fuel tank lol

Which was like 65 euros worth at the time

I had to get rid of it cuz some parts weren't available anymore

[solar rapids]

Aw, rip.

[sturdy tree]

0-60mph/100kmh: yes

It was so slow lol

[solar rapids]

Sounds a lot like my Sprint. Parts are scarce now. It's also an automatic, with no A/C and super slow, lol.

[sturdy tree]

Haha

I prefer manual tho

Except on those days where shifting is just always clunky no matter what you do lol

Idk why or how, probs the weather or something

[sturdy tree]

Hahaha just like my renault xD

After 100 you get scared

And everything starts to shake

[solar rapids]

Yeah, it used to be super sketchy with the old tires. They were from 2011, had flatspots and were cracking absolutely everywhere possible.

[sturdy tree]

idk what tires were under my renault, wasn't too bad I think

[solar rapids]

Do they do vehicle inspections there?

[sturdy tree]

Yeah, once a year

But if it's factory new it's less often

[solar rapids]

Ah, okay. Ye, probably had alright tires on it, then.

[sturdy tree]

But im not gonna take out a loan or sell my kidney to buy a new car lol

[solar rapids]

Yeah.

[sturdy tree]

1.6mm or more is required

[sturdy tree]

If you go under it you can get a fine

wtf

Does that tire even.... tire?

[solar rapids]

I mean... It went down the road.

Used to daily it on those for a few years.

[sturdy tree]

I'm also just driving it daily, cba to get a winter and summer set

All seasons 🙂

[solar rapids]

Here, you need winter tires.

[sturdy tree]

We don't have super snowy winters here

[sturdy tree]

And if we do the roads are very clean anyways

Haha

Roads here are spotless, even during winter

[solar rapids]

Ay, nice.

[sturdy tree]

Maybe not on the first day after snowfall tho

But on normal roads (so not in neighborhoods) they are usually snow free

[solar rapids]

Ye.

[sturdy tree]

These roads would maybe have a bit of snow on them, but nothing bad

And roads like this wouldn't have any snow on them

[solar rapids]

Dang, that's not a lot of snow, yeah.

[sturdy tree]

And if we have a tiny bit more, the roads are still pretty much fine. Behind the gate is what is considered a lot lol

[solar rapids]

That's less than what's in my driveway usually.

Here's a back alley after a decent snowfall.

[sturdy tree]

That;s quite a bit more

https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/10h1gv7/dude_got_mad_i_wasted_his_7_seconds_by_following/
This is the most we get lmao

I recorded that vid, just felt someone was going to do something stupid lol

The dude got salty cuz nobody was following the rules of the ferry, but I did

And he got salty because of that

(it's usually middle lane, right lane, left lane)

[solar rapids]

I have zero experience with ferries, lol.

[sturdy tree]

I have to use it to get to my work

I technically live on an island lmao

Well, it's just surrounded by two rivers

[solar rapids]

Cool.

[sturdy tree]

It's not considered an island tho

But I like to call it that way

[solar rapids]

Yeah.

[sturdy tree]

How's the snow on parking lots? Can you drift there without wearing out your tires?

Or it is too much to even drift?

Here we can do it like once every few years 😦

And then when the weather is ready they already cleaned the parking lots or there are cars parked

[muted haven]

car go brrrrrrrrrrr

[tired sundial]

Hmm

[solar rapids]

Depends on the lot, but sometimes, yeah.

[sturdy tree]

Guess im packing my stuff

Im moving!

jk 😄

[tired sundial]

Hmm

I would move out of America

[sturdy tree]

Glad I don't live there

[tired sundial]

But I’m wanted in every other country for war crimes

[sturdy tree]

Guess you gotta clean your name 🙃

[tired sundial]

The price is amazing

Spent way to much for gas

[muted haven]

brrrrrrrr

[tired sundial]

My bank is questioning my sanity

[solar rapids]

That's really cheap gas, dang.

[sturdy tree]

2.22 for 1 liter of RON95, or 2.36 for RON98

[solar rapids]

Oh, wait-

My bad, I didn't see where the decimal place was.

[tired sundial]

🙂 that tank is only taking me 300 miles at most

[sturdy tree]

thats like 8,40 for a gallon 😦

[tired sundial]

About 3.80ish a gallon

[sturdy tree]

Wanna trade?

[tired sundial]

For regular

Naw I good

[solar rapids]

That's $1/L, that's still really cheap compared to here.

It was nice when gas was that cheap.

[sturdy tree]

My country is way at the bottom there (netherlands) 😦

[solar rapids]

Not sure where they got those numbers from, but gas is $6.4 per gallon in Canada.

[sturdy tree]

I think he's in usa, and using USD

[tired sundial]

That’s my first refuel on my truck if I had it when gas was high I would be afraid

[solar rapids]

Ohh, it's just taxes, not price.

[tired sundial]

Yes

[sturdy tree]

Oh I thought you were refering to mr clean's price

Yeah it's just taxes

[solar rapids]

Yeah, my Subie is painful to drive because of how expensive it is.

[sturdy tree]

Tax is almost as much as the full price for mr clean lol

[tired sundial]

Yea government likes taking my money

[solar rapids]

18 - 20 MPG. $7.1 CAD for 91 octane here now. I drove 85 miles everyday.

[sturdy tree]

But this is probs one of the biggest reasons why we barely have any pickup trucks in Europe, and in USA there are more pickup trucks than sedans

[tired sundial]

I get 13

On a good day

[sturdy tree]

It's their hobby.....

[tired sundial]

I’m in the highest tax bracket so they take my money

[sturdy tree]

How much percentage wise is it there?

[dull cedar]

screw the treat amount, that rubber is fucked

[tired sundial]

Me forgot

[sturdy tree]

I hope it's less than here 😦

[dull cedar]

old, hard, cracked, dryrotted tyres aren't ever going to keep you on the road

[tired sundial]

It is less

[solar rapids]

Driving for 100 miles, my Subie still ends up being more expensive; though it is CAD VS USD. $35.5 per 100 miles for me, VS $30.0 for you.

[tired sundial]

They woul take 50% of my paychecks there

[sturdy tree]

They should tax companies more imo

[solar rapids]

They worked decently well for what they were. But I do have new tires now.

[sturdy tree]

Companies make like 10b profit, but they invest 9.5b of it, so they only pay taxes on like 500m

[tired sundial]

They shouldn’t be allowed to tax that much

[sturdy tree]

The taxes is on consumer income, not company income

In that screenshot ^

Company taxes are lower I think

[tired sundial]

How much do they tax cars

I only pay 10%

[sturdy tree]

we have road tax which is like 30-100 euros a month depending on weight/fuel type etc

Lemme see how much the tax on purchase is

[dull cedar]

do you know how tax brackets work? if you earn over 67,073 in this example, they aren't taxing you 52% on that whole amount. just everything over it

[sturdy tree]

No only everything after the 67k

[tired sundial]

It’s not like that in the us

[sturdy tree]

Almost all countries work like that

[dull cedar]

that's literally what I just said

[tired sundial]

The us is dum dum

[sturdy tree]

Oh sorry, I misread it 😄

[dull cedar]

it does though, at least for federal income tax

[solar rapids]

If people only got to keep 50% of what they make, I don't think many people would be living there.

[tired sundial]

I don’t even pay my taxes the irs hates me

[solar rapids]

Smol brakes.

[fathom socket]

Clearly

[sturdy tree]

Can't find it directly

[tired sundial]

Yes I only made $70 last year

[sturdy tree]

All I know is that the price of the same car in Germany or Belgium is significantly cheaper

[tired sundial]

They won’t tax what you put into a business so I do it sometimes

[sturdy tree]

Thats exectly what I meant previously haha. Just make sure it's on a business, and reinvest the money so it's not "profit"

Im sure you know more about it than me

[tired sundial]

Yea

[tired sundial]

Dude I’m 18 I know very little

[sturdy tree]

I thought you made like 100k+ lol

[tired sundial]

Yea so

[sturdy tree]

Then I assume you did more research on it than me