cars

[jade hamlet]

Ah fair enough. My condolences

Tbh used car prices in the UK aren't bad - though it varies wildly

Ah new cars, yeah the US is deffo cheaper for that. Used car market is typically cheaper in the UK in contrast to the US iirc.

[brittle totem]

True but compared to the rest of Europe it's very expensive in the Netherlands.

[brittle totem]

Not to bad here in Sweden ehiter. Just that insurence is joke for people under 25 years old.

Oh here the yearly tax on something like Koenigsegg Regera is like €3000 a year. But at the same time your regular family Volkswagen car has like €1000 just in tax to.

[stoic ledge]

If you don't have anything useful to add... Just don't

[stoic ledge]

UK is cheap used as there's no real export market for used RHD cars

[jade hamlet]

Ah thats a fair point

[stoic ledge]

NL also has an ownership tax every month

I pay €61/month in tax for the mighty Corsa

Based on weight and fuel type

[jade hamlet]

Given the netherlands awesome pro bike stance

I guess im not too surprised they tax ownship that high but

[stoic ledge]

So that's based on vehicle price and age then I assume?

[brittle totem]

I dont really know what our tax is based at least with cars like Cadillac escalade has like €240 in yearly tax but meanwhile our passat has like €900 in yearly tax.

[stoic ledge]

Ngl that's imho more fair then our current system

Because I can buy a 300k Ferrari and pay the same monthly tax as a Ford Focus for example

[brittle totem]

Yeah that the new Hybrid Ferrari has a lower tax rate then a GOLF GTI.

[jade hamlet]

In the UK road tax is allegedly based off emissions - however my car has a 4 cylinder 1.4l petrol and has higher road tax than a new V8 Mercedes (which has far higher CO2 output)

[stoic ledge]

Oh yeah that makes more sense, I think most countries use that

[stoic ledge]

Yup

[stoic ledge]

The Passat would be €163/month here, or €1960/year

Related "fun fact": NL is quite wealthy but we have the oldest car fleet of Western Europe

[brittle totem]

Guess what's the yearly tax is on that Ferrari in Sweden.

[stoic ledge]

The Hybrid? Idk, 300?

[brittle totem]

€104 per year 😅

[jade hamlet]

wonder why - I mean keeping vehicles longer is good to an extent (here in the uk people get new vehicles far too often and imo its a waste)

too often are status symbols

[brittle totem]

Meanwhile with GOLF GTI Clubsport it's €1000 for the first 4 years then €150 after those 4 years.

[stoic ledge]

As new cars are way too expensive, nobody can really afford it. Take a base Polo, that's already €27k, which is over €6k more than in Germany for example

So people just drive their cars longer, and we often import a few year old car instead of purchasing a new one

Combined with the high road tax, high fuel prices... It's harder for people to save up money

My plan never was to drive the Corsa this long, had it for almost 7 years now, but cars are so freakishly expensive it doesn't really make any sense to get a new one

If I trade this one in, I get like €3k back for it? Private sale ~€4.5-5k? I went to look at a 2016 Astra... So 7 years old, still had to put up €13k

[brittle totem]

And for the GOLF GTE it's just €35 per year same as with electric cars.

[stoic ledge]

I'd only be upgrading to get "something new" as there's 0 issues with my car, and it has been completely reliable since the day I got it. It actuality runs on LPG which makes it very affordable to run...

[stoic ledge]

PHEV <50g/km are taxed at ¼ of a petrol car, although that benefits will be gone within 2 years. EV's currently pay .. 0

[jade hamlet]

from 2019, but still

[stoic ledge]

2020 numbers, I know last year they went up, iirc 2022 we had 11.8 years average

So Italy has still slightly older cars

But I do think Italy in general is a "poorer" country? Don't quote me on that and don't take it the wrong way, I'll look up some figures also 😛

[jade hamlet]

It is (thanks to brexit give it a few years and the uk will be like Italy )

[brittle totem]

They have removed all of the tax benefits for PHEV company cars now in Sweden they hade stupid low benefits taxes before like Volvo V60 D3 was twice as expensive as Volvo V60 T8 in "benefit" tax so a lot of companies just got a bunch of hybrids but they never charged them anyways so they where just running on the ice engine at all times. Right now their is only benefit you get as company car drivers is on EV's where they remove €35k euro on list price. So you will be taxed lower per year if you have something like a Model y and then a base Passat and you don't need to pay any tax for the drives you do privately anymore.

[jade hamlet]

but they are 😆

[stoic ledge]

Yeah we had the same "problem" with stuff like the Volvo D6, Outlander PHEV, Golf/Passat GTE etc in 2013-2015. Basically free to run as company cars

Same "problem" with EV's, especially Model 3's in 2019

Can't find 2022 numbers, but 2021 was on average 11y5m in NL, and average getting scrapped at 17y

Although the amount of 20+ year old cars I see daily is high

[jade hamlet]

The Volvo "mild hybrids" are a joke anyway - were purely made for the tax benefits ^. 400wh battery - literally the capacity of 4 laptop batteries

[brittle totem]

Nearly all car companies does that now my aunt bought a new KIA last year and the seller just said that mild hybrid battery was just there to get a lower yearly tax it didn't help anything with consumption at all.

[stoic ledge]

Mild hybrids is something many manufacturers have noway tho

Not just 🅱️olvo

[bitter compass]

Weren't mild hybrids basically non impact in fuel consumption

[feral reef]

Got this from my grandpa, is like 60+ years old, still looks and feels brand new

Guess I can take my own wheels off now 😂

[stoic ledge]

Ngl I dont have that handle, that's really neat and easy to remove wheelnuts

Also, pls don't steal my new wheels @feral reef

[charred depot]

Also as they arent 2 ugga dugga'd to the power 10

Friends Escort we had the wheel go on the motorway and that one came off fine with a little ratchet, later changed the rest and they were on so tight they snapped.

would have been fun to deal with at the side of the road

[stoic ledge]

Classic

Apparently the garage did a fine job tightening mine, they came off nicely

We properly torked them now

[feral reef]

[feral reef]

Got a picture btw?

Found it, very

[stoic ledge]

Yeah those

[dusky torrent]

💀

[fathom socket]

I have feeling that Italian people might be "Cheap"

didn't get my truck fixed till now because I need to do inspection, and I've seen like trucks from the 90's

[civic spoke]

I'll go back test to the place and test drive some more trucks tomorrow.

The Volvo FMX tipper trailer was real nice to drive.

Never got to test the EV units.

[fathom socket]

Tesla has killed off their RHD X and S production
Morons lmao

[civic spoke]

Wait. They have?

[near lantern]

I went to Redmond car show and found this

[fathom socket]

RHD my bad lmfao

[near lantern]

bro wtf

[civic spoke]

Yeah, I figured.

[fathom socket]

But yeah you can still buy them in RHD markets, they’ll just be delivered as LHD

[near lantern]

fuckin tiny ass car

[fathom socket]

i6 my love

[civic spoke]

i6 is love.
i6 is life.

[violet tulip]

runs on E100

[fathom socket]

I want an ND MazdaSpeed miata with the new i6

I want it badly

[civic spoke]

That's less fun. Too high fuel consumption.

[violet tulip]

its a drift car so its not really a problem

uses around a barrel of E100 each trackday

[brittle totem]

🤨 @civic spoke

[civic spoke]

👌

On your way to the car meet?

[stoic ledge]

@elfin stone do you by any chance know if you can retrofit Touch & Connect, and get it full working?

So including the factory USB port and microphone, GPS etc

Still can't get over the improper looks of the aftermarket Android units

[elfin stone]

Yup

It’ll need some work, but it’ll work just fine

[stoic ledge]

[elfin stone]

Corsa, right?

[stoic ledge]

Corsa But I doubt it differs much

I also don't think the T&C was ever in the Astra

[elfin stone]

It’ll work in the Astra too

[stoic ledge]

I'm fine with using my phone for sat nav, but then I could properly make calls and stream music, using steeringwheel controls etc

[elfin stone]

But the angle is weird

[stoic ledge]

I bet it will yeah

[elfin stone]

I mean, you could try and get a CD40 USB with DAB+

I have that one, and it’s great

[stoic ledge]

Does that support A2DP (music streaming) through BT?

And a microphone for calls?

[elfin stone]

Nope, you have to plug it in via USB, and you would need a UHP4 for phone calls

[tiny sail]

#cars is for cars ;-;

[elfin stone]

This is about cars

[tiny sail]

uh

[elfin stone]

Aah, I remembered that the CID looks bonkers in the Corsa

[stoic ledge]

But then music only goes through the USB, e.g flash drives?

[elfin stone]

The radio has an iPod mode

Plug in your phone and you can use the steering wheel remote on it

[stoic ledge]

But does that also work then with for example listening to the WAN show?

[elfin stone]

Yup

[stoic ledge]

Oh really

Nice

I'd be interested in that

But CD40 USB is quite rare tho, no? And then adding a CID, UHP4, quite expensive I imagine

How does one even call using a CD40? Has no phone buttons, or a 0 key

[elfin stone]

The UHP is controlled with the big knob on the radio.

[stoic ledge]

Hmm alright that's not too bad, GID + CD40USB is ~150, UHP4 ~50?

= ~200

[elfin stone]

Should we transfer the talking into the DMs, retrofitting the things is a bit complicated? And people seem to be bothered by it ^^

[stoic ledge]

And then I also need the mic and possibly the dab module

Sure!

[brittle totem]

Just your average American car.

[timber oar]

damn straight

[brittle totem]

And your average C63 owner drifting with questionable control over the car.

[pearl tiger]

i just got my average L/100km to 4.3l which is nice

[brittle totem]

Just 0,3l/100km over my personal best.

[wispy cloak]

Rip subs

[wraith rivet]

😬

[pearl tiger]

Sound crisp

[civic spoke]

I might be able to finally get better mileage out of my car now that I have replaced the bad caliper.

Want to find someone to help me replace rotors and pads, tho.

[wraith rivet]

Was it scraping or something?

[civic spoke]

Yeah, the caliper was sticking quite a bit. Give me a sec and I'll show you a picture...

Glow in the dark rotors. (:

[dusky torrent]

Don't you have to be driving and using the brakes like a maniac to get the rotors to glow?

[civic spoke]

You usually do. But not if you have a caliper that sticks.

Which just means that it applies the brake all the time, even when I don't want it.

Up until it has worn down the pad material enough to spin more freely.

[wheat hatch]

Man, those American cars really don't fit in our tiny Swedish parkins spots

[bitter compass]

Jokes on you modern European cars don't even fit into old parking spots

Laughs in owning a car that has the exact size of a 70s car

It's not just the us where cars are getting ridiculously big its everywhere

In europe you just get punished for it in more ways than emptying your wallet

[civic spoke]

We had to widen the parking spots on our street

[bitter compass]

That's uncommon

Usually the decision would be to get rid of them

But it's always kinda funny when i drive home looking at those SUVs trying to fit into parking spots made in the 70s and park on the curb to not be parked on the street

[dusky torrent]

European skill issue, cars are inevitably increasing in size. It's time for Europeans to increase road size 😭

To be fair, some of those Europeans are good at driving through narrow streets

Some Americans I've seen need to pull over to the side of the road to let an oncoming car pass

[bitter compass]

You cant widen streets without doing the bulldozer method

[stoic ledge]

Street width often isn't the problem

[bitter compass]

Honestly

Investing in making places more car friendly is politically a bad move

Unless you seriously don't want to bother with the younger population

[dusky torrent]

I drive like trash around pedestrians

Nearly hitting them on 2 ocassions so far

[wide hemlock]

I have a "built" s40 now

FTO Swaybar and Evo 3 brakes

Evo 3 alignment bars

brand new shocks and H&R lowering springs

Every suspension component has been replacing with new stuff

[wraith rivet]

😳

did you have to replace the pad too? and check the rotor for warping

I would imagine the heat would mess with the rotors shape after a while and the pads would be down to nothing

[civic spoke]

Pads are basically down to nothing. Replacing all four corners with rotors and pads ASAP.

[wraith rivet]

Nice

[civic spoke]

Thinking about that. If they fit OEM calipers.

[wraith rivet]

seems expensive

what kind of car is it?

[civic spoke]

E46 320i.
500 SEK (kr) is somewhere in the $50 range.

Oh, right. Should add some extra hardware to that as well. At least wear sensors or something? Idk

Also, those prices are with taxes.

[wraith rivet]

Oh dang $236 for all of that?

I take it back that’s cheap af

how is it so cheap? I thought Brembo was high end

[topaz vessel]

They are having trouble fitting into US parking spaces at this point...
https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3pyzx/american-cars-are-getting-too-big-for-parking-spaces?utm_source=reddit.com

[final star]

Thats your brake LED you should turn that off

[dusky torrent]

HAHA they can cry while my 2011 bmw 3er (that's perfectly sized) is able to fit into the garage with ease

[misty mantle]

Me: Laughs in carport parking for a 2023 Ford Bronco Big Bend

[stoic ledge]

Rated R

That's what the average 1.0 TSI owner would do

😛

Is there a way to turn it off

Isn't that quite annoying around town?

It's fun for once but annoying every day imho

[feral reef]

“I have no idea what you’re talking about, must be a similar car”

[stoic ledge]

Oh no there's RPJ, on his way to steel my wheels

Swiper, no swiping!

I mean, for an odd reason there's a high amount of American V8's in my tiny village, but they all drive considerate atleast while driving through town

[feral reef]

https://tenor.com/view/stealing-sneaky-dora-swiper-got-em-gif-18068456

[stoic ledge]

Also a Brabus G-Class, but that guys a prick

Thinks he can go 80 through a school zone because he drives a semi truck

Disgusting

Is that a heart at the tow hitch?

Or rather, a broken heart?

So sad

Broken

Give it some love

Oh

Funnily enough I don't dislike those wheels on a Golf

Wouldn't be my choice initially, but I don't think they're wrong

Colour of the car is also interesting

[feral reef]

You shouldn’t dislike those wheels on any car!

[feral reef]

Grey?

[stoic ledge]

Give me your wheels, I'll put them on the Corsa

[stoic ledge]

Some brown in it, no?

Or that's just massive editing

"Ok so we're going with grey metallic brown thing" ~ VW salesman

[feral reef]

That just looks grey to me

[stoic ledge]

Golf R's here are black, white or blue, and crashed atleast 3 times

[feral reef]

I guess this is what people feel like when I tell them my car isn’t white

[stoic ledge]

It isn't?

And also previously crashed?

[feral reef]

It’s cErAmIc MeTaLlIc (white, grey or silver depending on the lighting)

[stoic ledge]

Called it

[stoic ledge]

Mines just Casablanca White No metallic, too fancy

But for some reason, the roof is pearl

Not metallic, pearl

So uni & pearl

Lel

Well I see a dashcam, so atleast we'll get it on video when you crash it

Sharing is caring

[feral reef]

This is why you get a RWD car, much more epic to oversteer into a guardrail

It’s bound to happen with that car

[feral reef]

Speaking of oversteering, my car is a lot more oversteery with the new wheels

Might have to get an alignment done

[stoic ledge]

That's just from seeing a VW

runs

[feral reef]

At least it’s not in primer

[stoic ledge]

No.

[stoic ledge]

True

It's even worse when someone has like a base model A3 with 16" wheels and it's in primer

I always call those primer

And I always will call them primer

Well that's a benefit tho

No need to paint the new body parts

Also what's with all those windscreen decals

CC set to 130, can't even reach ut, so underpowered

Another sign why the mighty Corsa is superior

Heh Golf could barely keep up with the Hilux, not enough power to overtake

Exactly

Noice

Lol

Only Hilux I know here is driven by a retired contractor who sometimes still drives a trailer around for the business now run by his son, always soing atleast 30% under the speed limit

So can't relate

😛

[rough pumice]

i am an absolute piece of garbage

[stoic ledge]

Self awareness is the first step

[rough pumice]

australias why are you folks have so much issues

[stoic ledge]

Also, I put 17's now on my vehicular transportation device. 17's are required for a 1.2 pushing out a whopping 83

Just ask you bf to not do that

Getting bitten? Yes

Government actually mandated the 16's I had before

These 17's emit too much CO2

Every market got these 17s on this trim

Except NL

Classic NL doing NL things

Actually imported them from Germany

[raw cosmos]

https://youtu.be/ZIktepxTLVE?t=30

[stoic ledge]

OOF

Never had that complaint myself

😛

[brittle totem]

Just missing the mandatory R stickers 😏

Well at our car meets it's so loud that you cant even talk probably over it always the Golf R owners and some Volvo V70 or VW caddy with way to many speakers in it.

[brittle totem]

Nah I think you got it wrong you meant the RS3 they are nearly always in primer because the Audi fan boys loves that "nardo gray" color,

Reminds me of the top trim Passat R-line edition which you could only could get in primer for some stupid reason.

[covert lava]

If that's primer, it's beautiful primer.

[brittle totem]

This happend twice yeasterday like 30 sec later an M140i did the exact same thing. https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJHCA34E/

[civic spoke]

"Why do you want to put me in a ditch"

[brittle totem]

Yeah it's just a matter of time before someone will crash there.

[stoic ledge]

That green one is really a stunning color for a truck

[stoic ledge]

I know a guy with a Passat in that color

[civic spoke]

That's an EV!

[stoic ledge]

Primer

[stoic ledge]

That's cool

[civic spoke]

Stupid quiet at low soeeds

[stoic ledge]

So when will your work get you one

[civic spoke]

Never.

[stoic ledge]

😭

[brittle totem]

They only color that looks worse then black on a Passat. Or black is alright right after you have cleaned but not otherwise.

[civic spoke]

They are stupid expensive to buy. And range is limited.
But if you can work around those two things. Then they are amazing vehicles.

When I drove it, then it had 84% battery and 180 km's of range left...

Meaning that you have maybe 200 km's of range in total.

[stoic ledge]

Should be enough to drive around Stockholm

[brittle totem]

They guy that my brother bought his Abarth from had an R-line edition Passat. He wanted a Passat that was a bit more fun to drive but he also didn't like that color but it was the only option available on it so he didn't have choice.

[stoic ledge]

I dislike white on a Passat While I like white in specific trims on smaller cars, on cars of that size it just looks cheap 😛

[brittle totem]

Only seen one 8,5 Passat in White but I still cant understanr why my dad picked black over lapiz blue for the same price.

[bitter compass]

A blue passat always makes me remind of the r36

[brittle totem]

Never seen this color on a Tesla before most be some new one.

[civic spoke]

It's just their Grey color. No?

[stoic ledge]

LOL

Nice

[stoic ledge]

According to Tesla it's Midnight Silver

Just one of 5 colors you can get

Very useful in a VW, testing if something still works

runs

[civic spoke]

Black, white, Grey, blue, and red?

[stoic ledge]

13% apparently here

[stoic ledge]

Si

[civic spoke]

damn. 90% of all their cars are grey scale.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah it's great isn't it

For the Model 3 it's just 84%

Additionally, I challenge you to determine the free color of the Model Y (1), and the free colors of the Model 3 (2)

[civic spoke]

I can't remember. But aren't red and blue paid colors? Where as the others are free?

[stoic ledge]

For the Model Y it's just white (hence why it's a whopping 44%)
Model 3, it's black and white (combined 54%)

LOL @ Enyaq

That moment when a Yaris Cross has more exciting colors than basically any other car

I mean, still 56% grayscale

But that means 44% non-grayscale

[civic spoke]

I wonder what the colors looks like for Porsche or Lambo.

[stoic ledge]

This is for a Taycan

911

Cayenne

Note: this is for NL market

[brittle totem]

It that for the new grey or is it with the old grey that they hade before ?

[brittle totem]

Like any other new car everyone just get white,gray or silver this days.

[civic spoke]

And then you have Redscale for Ferrari.

[brittle totem]

In my opnion Ferrari looks better in the darker blue colors then red.

[charred depot]

If I had the old engine id have been malding as it took me a good like 20 seconds to go from 60 - 80

[feral reef]

That one is so nice

I’ve posted here about that special color before

[novel relic]

Brum

[feral reef]

Very nice 👌

The tires almost took like they’re red 😂

[novel relic]

Nah they black

[feral reef]

My nephew’s AMG

[novel relic]

Bit greyed maybe

[feral reef]

Ooh I think I actually recognize those wheels

[novel relic]

Damn, at work i gotta lift these things in box constantly

[feral reef]

Haha that exact one?

[novel relic]

Also Aventadors and g wagons

[feral reef]

So if I open up the hood, your name is going to be on the plaque? 😂

[charred depot]

double up the battery voltage, give your nephew some more fun.

[feral reef]

No need yet, he usually puts it on the slow mode by choice anyway

[brittle totem]

Yeah it's way better then the old grey that they hade before and I did some research and apparently you can only get that color and the new red one if you are in Europe since they are only build in Germany.

[feral reef]

Yeah those are Berlin specials

I wouldn’t even call it grey

It’s more of a silver

[brittle totem]

I guess so Tesla themselves calls it midnight silver.

[buoyant rune]

car

[novel relic]

Is it fully stock?

Other than ride height, it looks like

[normal trout]

100k bmw old cars have problems with airbags

[patent basalt]

Any w body guys in this place?

[brittle totem]

Yup but you can get it replaced for free and it's not just old BMW our 2015 model year got an airbag recall two weeks ago.

[wraith rivet]

130kmh-140 is what everybody drives on California freeways

then the occasional charger cutting up traffic doing +50

and the Prius doing 100kmh in the passing lane

[wraith rivet]

I’ve never seen that either

it looks nice

I’ve only seen the darker gray they have

[brittle totem]

You can't get one in that color in North America it's just for EU market since they are only build in the Berlin factory.

[wraith rivet]

Oh interesting

[limber pine]

Just passed someone with the vanity plate of "only god" and wanted to facepalm so hard

[misty mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/face-palm-gif-20569409

[charred depot]

924 2.0 van engine vs mx5

[deep zealot]

Fast car

[wraith rivet]

My coolant reservoir was low as heck like well below the minimum line so I topped it off with stuff I found in my garage

the original color was green

but this stuff says it can mix with any color?

did I fuck up again lol

[brittle totem]

Are you just casually driving a 1 million car ?

[deep zealot]

[lilac mauve]

alright, it has to do with games, but also cars, only 11 mph? really ford

[plucky flame]

No way its a gt teacher

[ornate viper]

Nice work, some nice shots, love the vibe!

[ornate viper]

Is this a pagani?

[deep zealot]

yes

it was a pretty cool car

[ornate viper]

Nice

Reminds me of Grand Turismo 3

[ornate viper]

Was?

[deep zealot]

yes it’s really old lol

[ornate viper]

Oh, but you still have it?

[deep zealot]

it’s not mine it’s a friends

he has a lot of porsches and lamborghinis and stuff

[ornate viper]

Ahh, damn

That’s sick, hope I will one day 😎

[deep zealot]

same 😩

i still win in most of our races but that’s because he doesn’t tune

[ornate viper]

He’s more of a collector I’m guessing?

[deep zealot]

yeah

less of a collector though

he buys and resells them later

[ornate viper]

Ahh

[deep zealot]

but drives them

he doesn’t let them sit in the garage unused

[ornate viper]

Does he do some maintenance on them before selling them then? So he can sell them for profit?

[wispy cloak]

Factory new

[deep zealot]

minimal

[copper salmon]

Pickung up tuesday

[deep zealot]

those performance cars arent being driven balls to the wall there isnt much more to do than an oil change

[copper salmon]

Chewd them down to 350

[deep zealot]

the Pagani i drove yesterday was one of the very few cars that he rarely takes out because the cops dont like it

Lol

[copper salmon]

The fact im 6'8 an know i cant fit in that is sad

[shy plover]

In Switzerland, basic driving training includes anti-drift training. They wet and soap the road for you to try handling the car.

Going there with my VW T3, wish me luck that I dont flip it xD

[shy plover]

This car is only for guys with massive balls, thus the high PS and low speed

[stoic ledge]

Have fun flipping it!

[stoic ledge]

Tbh regarding this... See where it goes. Coolant doesn't get consumed, so it either leaks somewhere, or it leaks inside the engine 😛

Generally, those colorless ones are fine, it's also what roadside assistance caries for example

Oh lol, yes that'll do it

[brittle totem]

Tell him to get koenigsegg instead way better 😏

[brittle totem]

Same thing here in Sweden but on ice at least during the winter but I got to do it in a Nissan leaf with the most aggresive traction control that I have ever witnessed so it wasen't that hard to dodge the cons.

[stoic ledge]

Wish we got that

Well I can get a seperate course, and will be planning to do that in the future

[charred depot]

Training here is encountering one of the very many oil spills

[shy plover]

Yeah we also got a simulated snow/ice field which we'll try now
But yeah, with modern cars this is so easy xD

[edgy crescent]

testing!

[wraith rivet]

ah dang

hopefully not

I can do one of those pressure tests where you like pump it up and leave it for a while to see if any air leaks out

[edgy crescent]

look, YOUR car might not consume coolant 😉

[stoic ledge]

Yeah well maybe it's just the cab like Nick McNickFace said, but yeah better check it

[stoic ledge]

Well it shouldn't be a consumable 😛

[livid sail]

I’m considering buying for my first car a 2013 Mercedes C300 or c350. Its 15,000 Canadian dollars.
I wanted to get a 2014 Bmw 435i but its 25,000$.
Anyone has any suggestions I should consider?

[fathom socket]

You want to get a used 2010s german car?
I pray for your sanity

[livid sail]

Why?

[fathom socket]

Personally I find that parts are too expensive and repairs are needlessly complex

And that’s coming from someone who daily drove a subaru

[wispy cloak]

I own two 20+ year old German cars

[livid sail]

I’m personally looking for something with a v6 or grater and awd for around 15,000$ Cad. Thats why the c300 caught my attention

[wispy cloak]

Personally I'd recommend an audi with the 1.8t

The V6s are just so bad to work on

[timber oar]

That car in general is going to be annoying to work on

[deep zealot]

I told him buy a Jesko but even that's too expensive for him lol

[brittle totem]

Maybe a Gemera then the ultimate daily driver 😀

[charred depot]

deciding on an exhaust placement

1 costs basically nothing and its a turbo diesel so wont be that obnoxious

[misty mantle]

Those exhaust hangers are basically nonexistent

[charred depot]

just the way the downpipe of the new engine got joined to the mid pipe

wouldnt actually be sagging like that had it lined up properly

its way too small diameter for the new engine anyway so has to go, was just a bodge to get it on the road

[misty mantle]

Gotta do what you gotta do when its you're only fully road legal car I guess

[charred depot]

its not but

[wraith rivet]

I checked mine and the cap on the reservoir literally just has a tube coming out the top into a 90 then another 90

not really a valve or anything

Ohh you’re talking about the radiator cap itself? not the reservoir

@turbid onyx this is what mine looks like

it’s got the radiator cap itself on the left and the reservoir/overflow whatever on the right with the little black tubes coming out of it

Oh weird

[rotund sandal]

whats more reliable

bmw or honda

[wraith rivet]

depends on how it’s cared for

[rotund sandal]

just normal

average

[wraith rivet]

bmws can last a long time but they need super strict maintenance

average? then Honda

[rotund sandal]

a normal person

[wraith rivet]

yeah definitely Honda then

[rotund sandal]

some guy was saying bmw is the 2nd most reliable car brand

its the 7th most unreliable car brand on average

on a list of 50

[wraith rivet]

yeah no lol

[rotund sandal]

apparently hes some racing driver or something

with 850hp 335i

[wraith rivet]

lmaoo

he’s a fanboy

[rotund sandal]

@deep zealot this guy

he will argue for hours even though hes wrong

[wraith rivet]

wait him?

[rotund sandal]

yes

[wraith rivet]

I’ve never seen him do that lol

[deep zealot]

N54 master

[rotund sandal]

just look in tech chat

[wraith rivet]

Ok 1 sec

oh my

That’s really interesting

I wonder why

[fathom socket]

You daily an alpha? How’s that?
Here in the states it’s…lol

[deep zealot]

Last time I saw an alfa it was in the shop

[rotund sandal]

last time i saw a bmw it was in the shop

[deep zealot]

i like the old 1980s alfas

the one that thomas has from throttle house

that’s a beautiful machine

[fathom socket]

It doesn’t help that our dealer network is dogshit and sketchy as hell

[deep zealot]

the GTV i think it was called

those are cool cars

[fathom socket]

We had a couple here in texas go under for fraud 💀

[deep zealot]

that’s pretty cool actually

big BMW spooly boi

[wraith rivet]

shiny

[deep zealot]

i keep her clean

have to do some hood mods this summer because the thing is too big for the hood to go back on

[brittle totem]

🥱

[deep zealot]

that one E90 standing in the middle

[brittle totem]

And some modern ones.

[brittle totem]

Always a BMW

[deep zealot]

[viral matrix]

New'ish bike

[brittle totem]

And we found this one in the peasant parking lot for all of the none Italian cars. @deep zealot

[wraith rivet]

That looks so cool

I want wagons here so bad 😭

[brittle totem]

Move to Sweden then on of the only countries that understands that wagons is superior over SUV/Crossovers.

[wraith rivet]

Maybe one day

[plucky flame]

A real design thought up by engineers under the USSR

[fathom socket]

That’s something I’d make in KSP that would immediately explode on the runway

[misty mantle]

About everything I build in KSP explodes on the runway

Either explodes or is way too small for the thrusters it has and goes at yes MPH

[plucky flame]

They were actually going to build it

Two small issues though

It would take multiple miles of runway

And they had no money

[misty mantle]

And a lot of Jet fuel

[plucky flame]

Russia has tons of oil

Like a lot. One of the perks of having 6 million square miles of siberia.

[fathom socket]

Would have helped if their Buran shuttles weren’t awful

[plucky flame]

They also had a an225 set to wumbo that was supposed to do something similar

No idea why its in german though

[fathom socket]

They really wanted to be NASA so bad

[plucky flame]

Nothing can match the super guppy

No matter how much of a dingus it looks like

[halcyon grotto]

queue for halfords is pretty long today int it

[brittle totem]

[plucky flame]

Sorry youre too bri ish for me govna

[charred depot]

The policy I had on my 306 N/A diesel is expiring and ive run quotes which will be more than my modified TD 305 to insure

306 too new

same insurer will cover my 305 for the same usage for like £290

guess they dont like "new" cars

[tiny rune]

This is an entirely stupid number of engines making it aerodynamically unfeasible. And the wing efficiency can't be good with that many interruptions either. Which is kinda important if you want to fly at high altitudes.

[plucky flame]

Thats on the lower end. They proposed up to 40.

[tiny rune]

Might as well build a rocket at that point

Because there is not much plane left under all those engines

[plucky flame]

Its also two an225 fuselages if you didnt realize.

[edgy crescent]

imagine the stress on that center member

[plucky flame]

Probably around 4 if i had to guess

[edgy crescent]

at least. Maybe even 5.

[plucky flame]

6 is definitely too far

5.8 at most

[halcyon grotto]

basically 17 year old prices

[topaz vessel]

How many of the 24 engines can fail before it falls out of the sky?
Was there enough fuel to run all of them?

[topaz vessel]

They arguably had the better shuttle.

[fathom socket]

Yeah for all two orbits 💀

Doesn’t matter how good something is if they can’t maintain it

[halcyon grotto]

but what a good two orbits they were!

[wraith rivet]

😂

[topaz vessel]

Well, I mean, yes, the USSR collapsed and the program got mothballed.
That said, it had a pretty awesome auto pilot system that is quite respectable.
And had some other neat things as well.
Just imagine... if there had not been a Cold War and a race to outspend the other, but like Lockheed and Boeing duking it out for the best design.
I'd argue humanity would have won.

[plucky flame]

How the hell am i supposed to know that

[topaz vessel]

I don't know, you posted the image. I'm asking questions.

[plucky flame]

This thing never made it past computer simulations.

I dont even think the ussr could afford that many engines

[wispy cloak]

Oops

[wraith rivet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG4IaHgqH00

[deep slate]

Big sad

[stoic ledge]

OOF

Rip

Called it

[brittle totem]

||Would never have happened with some proper do88 parts 😅 ||

[stoic ledge]

RS3 swap it

[brittle totem]

I can suspect that it happened because of average Golf R owner likes to launch the car at least 20 times a day.

[brittle totem]

But the previous owner probably did 😉

[charred depot]

I want to put a mordern VNT turbo on the 305

cant beat the reliability of trusty old laggy ones though

[ornate viper]

you smoked him! literally!

[dusky torrent]

Is this road wide enough for 3 cars to fit

[stoic ledge]

6.9m or 69dm, nice

Parked definitely, driving it's quite narrow

With mirrors a car is easily over 2 meters wide

[stoic ledge]

Just install both Install a VNT and keep the original. Twin turbo

[tired sundial]

At first I thought it was some high schooler vaping again

[timid summit]

damn weird seeing george on here

[civic spoke]

That's rough.

[brittle totem]

How much even is a Golf R engine is it even worth replacing or is it totaled ?

I'm voting for an engine swap to RS3 engine if that's even possible to do.

[halcyon grotto]

replace it with a nice practical crossover

[civic spoke]

RS3 engine would be more reliable, no?
No turbo or anything in 'em.

[wheat hatch]

No they are turbo charged

[brittle totem]

Yeah it's on the same platform as the RS3 right ?

[wheat hatch]

Nice ad

[civic spoke]

Oh, yeah, it is. Forgot. But it's still not that much larger than the i4 engines.

[wheat hatch]

Sound 10x greater than the 4 banger as well

[civic spoke]

Isn't it essentially a lopped off engine from the Lambo V10?

[wheat hatch]

Even if it's turbo charged

[wheat hatch]

Let's see

[brittle totem]

😉

[halcyon grotto]

RS3 swapped gen 1 opel mokka

[wheat hatch]

Can't find any info on that, but would make sense

I mean, I suppose it's called a baby V10 for a reason

[civic spoke]

Maybe it was for the older RS3 engines.

[wheat hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-perhaps-family-guy-thinking-gif-13587558

[civic spoke]

Either way. Any engine that isn't i4 is a fun one.

[wheat hatch]

I wish there were more inline 5's

And inline 6's

[civic spoke]

i4 are honestly the most boring of the bunch. The problem is the manufacturers and that they package so well into mundane cars.

Props for Mercedes and Mazda for coming out with i6's.

Hopefully we will see more of them.

[wheat hatch]

Hopefully

If we can get fun hybrid cars

That would be great

But not like merc and their new C63

[civic spoke]

I've heard good things about the Mazda.

[wheat hatch]

Put hybrid on the I5's and the I6's

[civic spoke]

Oh, right. New C63 AMG is an i4 hybrid, no?

[wheat hatch]

Yup

[civic spoke]

That's a big sucks.

Alright, need to make myself ready to head off for work.

[wheat hatch]

4pot from the A/CLA if I'm not wrong with a hybrid system strapped to it

[civic spoke]

@brittle totem Want to join me?

[wheat hatch]

Bjorn writing a bible page

[brittle totem]

How much hp does a stage Golf R make? This is how much the GTI that my brother has at work managed to do with their parts.

[fathom socket]

600lb/ft of torque

Ah wait nvm newton meters

Still awesome, 455lb/ft

[deep zealot]

Yep it is

which is why both the DAZA and the DKA engines are very widely known for making a ton of power

twin turbocharged setups possible on stock DKA engines making 1000+ hp easily

while the DAZA makes almost 900 hp stock engine

[silent parcel]

Focus and fiesta ST my beloved

[misty mantle]

Gm should redo the one that the Hummer H2/3 and Chevy Colorado/ GMC Canyon got

[brittle totem]

The i4 in my brothers Abarth sounds good and the car is fun to drive to so i4 can be fun to.

[civic spoke]

3 cylinder? No?

[brittle totem]

Nope 1,4l i4.

[civic spoke]

No. Wait. It had a 1.4 i4

Yeah

[brittle totem]

I think it's the same engine as they use in F3 cars.

[civic spoke]

It's an exemption to the rule

Most i4's are meh

[halcyon grotto]

i5pilled

[deep zealot]

K20 masterrace

[civic spoke]

Wished that was my permanent vehicle for work.

[dusky torrent]

Whats this

[wind peak]

Have any of y'all ever had to deal with your dream car sitting on a lot you have to go passed every single day but can't even start to save up the money to buy it because not a single one of the job postings you've applied for in the past six months have even called you back? If so, how did you deal with it? Because that's exactly what I'm going through right now. I want this car so painfully bad, and I'm prepared to start putting in the long hours to one day make it mine but nobody even wants to give me the time of day so I have no way of even starting the grind towards getting this car. It's infuriating.

The car in question is a blue 2013 Mustang w/ 130k miles that's been sitting at a local used car lot with a big $8,995 sticker on it for eight months now. I'd be able to save up that amount before my next birthday if only someone would give my ass a job to do

[civic girder]

There could be a reason that car has sat there for 8 months. To be honest, that gen Mustang isn't exactly rare, so I don't think it'd be a big deal if it did sell before you finally found a job

And really, the only advice I can give you is to keep working at getting a job. Refresh your resume, find a mediocre job in the meantime and keep looking for that nicer one.

[wind peak]

Yeah in all honesty, I'd probably talk myself out of buying it during the time it would take to save up the money, it's more of the fact that I have to look at it every day and it's a constant reminder that the one thing I've been motivated to work towards as of recent is as of yet unobtainable through no fault of my own.

[civic girder]

Even if you're making minimum wage, its better than $0

[wind peak]

I spent 18 months getting a college certificate thinking I'd be able to make more than $7.25 once I came out the other side, only to realize the same companies who wanted me as a high school senior are the only companies who will take me as a college graduate. It hurts, but if scooping ice cream for seven bucks with my shiny new college education is what it takes to get me a car, I guess I just have to do it. Even if it'll take me years at that pay

[civic girder]

Its entirely possible the jobs you're applying to have a reason for passing you up

I wouldn't doubt its a really dumb reason, but still

Like work experience or the contradictory industry experience

You could also look at jobs in cities farther away

a 1-2 hour commute isn't completely unreasonable, and you could always move closer too

[civic girder]

assuming you live in the US. I'm not sure this is reasonable in other countries

[wind peak]

Yeah I live in the US. I've thought about moving to new zealand though. No gun violence, the tech industry has started picking up over there (my certificate is in computer support, and most of the companies I've applied for are customer service so maybe an actual computer company will want me), one of the most attractive populaces by census. But that's kinda in direct opposition of my goal of buying a car though

[civic girder]

yeah moving to a new country will only make that harder

The unfortunate reality with computer support is its a saturated market

lots of workers, not enough jobs

You might be better off looking at other IT related jobs

[wind peak]

I should've just gone to school for collision repair lol. Then I could have worked on cars every day. Sucks I didn't start to become interested in cars until I had already started my education.

[civic girder]

lol. It'll all work out in the end. I do hear a lot of people who work in the auto industry get too burnt out with cars to have much motivation to work on their own. Its not universal, but it does seem to happen

I personally would despise working on a project car or anything like that if I worked as a mechanic

[wind peak]

The thing about that is that the only companies who will hire fresh college graduates with tech educations is companies who want them to do work that requires such an education, while only paying them minimum wage. It's because all of the serious tech companies who pay well will only hire people who have worked for 3-5 years at another tech company. So in order to get a good job in the IT space, you have to work yourself to death at a black company for 3 years first. Something I wish I had known before going to school.

[wind peak]

That's why I no longer like building computers as a computer support person lol

[civic girder]

and btw if your only goal rn is to just buy and own a car, get a cheap beater off marketplace lol. You can always work to having a nicer and more fun car later

[civic girder]

yeah, tech support is a basic job now. And I definitely see a lot of contradictions in seeking people with years of experience while college grads are screwed. Like honestly its better to go for cybersecurity and/or network administration anymore

[wind peak]

Well yeah, I wanna OWN a car, key word own. The car I currently drive, I don't own, but I pay for the gas, insurance, and maintenance costs for with the meager money I get from flipping computers. So I'm not allowed to modify or tinker with it in any way. It's a 2005 ford focus

[civic girder]

I've been fortunate enough to have been in an area with a shit ton of IT jobs. A lot of shitty ones, but also a lot of government contracting jobs that pay pretty well and are seemingly a bit easier to get

I know a guy who literally just installs and repairs fiber optic cable. Gets paid pretty damn decently

[wind peak]

Yep, that's what my father does. Installed phone lines for 20 years, made the switch to fiber and is treated like an actual person now. I'm happy for him, if a bit envious.

[timber oar]

You could look at FedEx ground for loading trailers

I'm getting like 21 an hour

[wind peak]

I appreciate those kind of suggestions

[timber oar]

But our minimum is higher here

[civic girder]

Yeah, even if you're stuck when looking for an IT job, there are plenty of jobs that pay better than McDeeznuts

A good friend of mine is unironically a TikTok moderator and iirc makes like $22 an hour or something

[timber oar]

I'm pretty sure the state minimum is like 15 or 16 an hour here

So we probably make more just because it's a little more expensive here

[civic girder]

yeah I think our state minimum is the federal minimum lol

[timber oar]

Yeah no I'm in Colorado with all the Californians that whine about the minimum wage

[civic girder]

makes sense

[wind peak]

Min. wage in my state is as mentioned, $7.25 which I'm pretty sure is the federal minimum. The highest paying job in my area is $22/hr for carting pallets of pepsi all over for 8 hours a day. I'd like to do that, it saves me the price of a gym membership, but for some reason they've made it super hard to even apply to work there lol. Every site to apply looks like malware waiting to happen.

[civic girder]

Could look at Amazon too. I've heard that it can suck, but iirc they actually pay dumb well

[timber oar]

I have a friend that left working where i do at FedEx and went to Amazon

[civic girder]

ooh wtf. $22 for moving pallets? That doesn't sound completely awful

$22 is pretty solid

[timber oar]

Yeah that's basically what i do except we manually load everything

[civic girder]

and yeah if $7.25 is the federal minimum my state is actually $1 higher lol

[timber oar]

Crazy for me to think there are still states like that, I'm so used to this one

[civic girder]

I don't even think fast food pays that shit here anymore tho

[timber oar]

Not that the way it is here is the correct way

[wind peak]

I think it's because it's soda so you have to be more careful with it? Idk. Anyways the alternative to me saving up the money for a proper Mustang is just me blowing all of my savings on a $2000 foxbody in the meantime

[civic girder]

Starbucks is like $19/hr iirc

its wild

[civic girder]

Eh, doubt it. Prolly just cause moving pallets is exhausting if you don't have a forklift lol

[wind peak]

That's probably it

[timber oar]

I'm looking to save up and get the new gen of mustang in about a year actually

[civic girder]

I like fox bodies. $2k prolly gonna be a mid condition car tho

or a 4 banger

Which imo the 4 banger fox bodies are the perfect candidate for an Ecoboost 4 banger swap

[stoic ledge]

EcoBoost 3 banger swap it

[civic girder]

ew

[stoic ledge]

[timber oar]

I want a convertible gt lol

Mustang gets v8

No other way imo

[wind peak]

I initially wanted to save up a ton to buy a newer Mustang and slap a Mach 1 front bumper on it, but then realized how long it'd take and settled for a 13-14 manual

[civic girder]

I mean, the ecoboost mustangs are pretty solid for what they are imo

They can take stupid power for what they are

the V6 is the heretic spec

[timber oar]

But v8 tho

[wind peak]

So here's the thing

Can I make my argument for the Cyclone V6 or do I not even bother

[civic girder]

the only reasonable solution to buying a v6 mustang is to LS swap it

or coyote, doesn't really matter tbh

[civic girder]

Like the GMC Syclone?

[timber oar]

V8 power baybeee!!

[civic girder]

I'm hyped for my buddy to LS swap his 97 stang. The v6 is cringe, but he got it for dirt cheap and he's already promised the swap

[timber oar]

I'm putting an ls in my firebird

5.3 iron block

Ultimate chonker of an ls

[civic girder]

my coworker was LS swapping a 71 Nova

but now he's kinda backtracked on that and wants to buy a 73 Nova that's already been LS swapped

but tbh he's kind of a clown

[timber oar]

Well i struggle because on the one hand

Mustang cool

But on the other hand

I could make my fking firebird probably twin turbo 800hp or more for the 60k it would take to get the config of mustang i want

[civic girder]

a lot less than $60k I bet

prolly more like $20k or less

[timber oar]

And i already have like most of what i need

[wind peak]

Ok apologies but get ready for my novel

The 3.7 Duratec Cyclone V6 out of the 11-14 S197s is the cheapest engine in the long run out of the entire S197 lineup on account of it being the smallest engine, and the most fuel efficient available in that body style. It still makes 300 horse, matching the 4.6 three valve V8, without the insurance rates and the gas prices of an actual V8. I understand that the Coyote makes over 400 and gets marginally less gas mileage, with way higher insurance premiums, but in all honesty I don't have any use for that kind of power and I don't wanna be paying that much for something I don't 100% know I need / can appreciate. So for me, the 3.7 Cylone V6 makes more sense than the Coyote V8, I just wish the first thing everyone always says when they hear that wouldn't be "YoU sHoUlD gEt A cOyOtE aNyWaY"

[timber oar]

Mans over here been typing a whole essay

[wind peak]

I am unfortunately cursed with verbosity

[civic girder]

this gives me the itch to pull copy pastas from another discord

tbh I can't imagine the insurance premiums are that much different

and if you're caring about mpg, simply do not buy sports car

[timber oar]

They would probably be pretty high for me considering I'm not 25 yet

[civic girder]

newer cars always have higher premiums

[timber oar]

And yeah a speedy boi car ain't where you get mileage

[civic girder]

my Prius was like $90 a month for insurance

[timber oar]

Go get a wrx and get 30mpg holding 90mph

[civic girder]

but my Corolla is like $40

[civic girder]

that's cap

subarus get mediocre mileage due to being awd

and you will never get good mileage above 75mph

[timber oar]

It was the built in fuel economy thing

It probably wasn't that great but Idk it wasn't my car

Idk how accurate that is

[civic girder]

my Prius mpg would take a nosedive if I went faster than 72

[wind peak]

Knowing what my dad paid per month on his 96 V8 Thunderbird, and what I pay on my 4cyl as a dude who's <25, I guarantee engine size would make a difference on insurance. The thing is, my Focus gets such bad mileage cause of its age that pretty much any engine in the S197 lineup would get better fuel economy than it...

[timber oar]

Surprised the threshold isn't 60

[civic girder]

I also call cap on that

on the mpg

[timber oar]

What mileage does your focus get

[civic girder]

my 91 Camry gets over 30mpg

4 cylinder, not the v6

[timber oar]

I wanna hear what you consider bad mileage

[civic girder]

depends on the type of car

sub 28mpg for a 4 cylinder car would be shit imo

damn, the old Focus is more of a shitter than I thought. Only rated for 29 highway

[stoic ledge]

If I cruise at 85mph I get barely more than that with a 1.2L 4-cyl

But then it's at 4000rpm due to the gearing so makes sense

[civic girder]

barely hovers at the bottom of my "acceptable" mpg for a sedan

[timber oar]

Boy are you in for a treat

laughs in 16mpg

[wind peak]

So my focus has 231k miles on it, the rear end is rusted so badly it won't pass its next inspection, and there's something horribly wrong with the engine because it gets 12

[civic girder]

tf

[stoic ledge]

Oef

[civic girder]

how is your car that fucked that it only gets 12

[timber oar]

It shouldn't get 12 lol what

[civic girder]

even with dragging brakes my rx7 did 17mpg

[timber oar]

Even the original engine in my firebird could probably do better

[civic girder]

I think that's about what my awd van gets lol

Its really annoying bc the 2wd version of the same van gets over 20

[pearl tiger]

my car does 4.3L/100km

[timber oar]

My 94 Fleetwood gets around 16

[wind peak]

I have. Suspicions. But like I said, I'm not allowed to tinker with it so I can't 100% narrow it down. I'm thinking either a brake issue or torque converter

[civic girder]

just buy a new car at that point lol

I bet you can find a Corolla on marketplace for a good price

I mean shit, my Corolla was $300

back in 2020 tho. Same vintage Corollas are going for about $1500 now

[wind peak]

Aight, $2000 whatever-the-heck I guess is what I'm going with then. "There are many like it but this one is mine"

[stoic ledge]

Yeah tbh I wouldn't be waiting until you get 9k for a Mustang, save enough to get a decent Corolla or Civic and ditch the Focus lol

[timber oar]

Better off with a Japanese car anyways

They know how to make shit

[stoic ledge]

Laughs in owning a German GM car

[timber oar]

HAHAHA

I'm sorry for you

[civic girder]

first listing I see on local Marketplace is a 02 Civic for $1k that might need a water pump

[pearl tiger]

laughs in Spanish VAG

[stoic ledge]

It's not too bad, had 0 things fail in the last 7 years

:)

[civic girder]

$700 Nissan Altima that needs a new engine, somehow not surprised

[timber oar]

My caddy has needed some love but it's also 30 years old so

[stoic ledge]

A.k.a the better VW

[stoic ledge]

Always when people say Caddy, I think of the VW Caddy Van

[timber oar]

200k+ on that 5.7l and it still has excellent compression

[pearl tiger]

I like my 1.9tdi seat

[wind peak]

Yeah I feel like getting a car that I know has problems so is selling for cheaper, and then fixing those problems to end up with a car that's worth more money bc I did the work myself would be the most fulfilling option I've got. It just sucks living in the rust belt because it makes used car buying a crapshoot. I'm thinking of joining my grandpa on a trip to florida to visit his family and buying something rust free down there and driving it back up here

[civic girder]

AYO. Clean Grand Marquis for $1500

[pearl tiger]

[civic girder]

I mean, you can get lucky. I live in the rust belt too and I've found a lot of rust free 90s shitters.

[timber oar]

They really named a car a seat?

[civic girder]

My $300 corolla only has one bit of rot

[stoic ledge]

SEAT is a brand yes

[civic girder]

and my $1300 van had no rust and drove fine despite its 14 other issues

[stoic ledge]

Part of VAG (like Audi and VW for you Americans)

[pearl tiger]

SEAT S.A. (English: /ˈseɪɑːt/, Spanish: [ˈseat]; Sociedad Española de Automóviles de Turismo lit. Spanish Touring Automobiles Company)

[timber oar]

See this is why i like Colorado

[stoic ledge]

But they're killing off the brand and making it a "mObIlItY sOlUtIoN"

[timber oar]

Very dry

Much nicer to cars

[wind peak]

L u c k y

[timber oar]

Firebird is 44 years old but least rusted thing i have since its been in the state so long

[pearl tiger]

who needs seats anyway

[wind peak]

Okay new idea. early 90s LT1 Corvettes seem to go for about $2-3k where I live depending on condition. That worth looking into further?

[stoic ledge]

Damn the amount of seats in those Seats

[timber oar]

Lt1 is a pretty good engine afaik

Actually what my Cadillac has

[civic girder]

Your mpg won't improve much over your life support focus and you'll have to deal with 30 year old car issues

[timber oar]

One main weakness is the optispark

But it has some juice

[wind peak]

Understandable

[timber oar]

I imagine it would be fun in a car that doesn't weigh two tons

[civic girder]

C4s are great at being cheap projects, but they aren't particularly quick, and are plagued with 80s electronics

[timber oar]

If you get an old gm car get at least new enough to have an ls

[civic girder]

Personally I'd look for something with a 4 cylinder so you can get 25mpg+

Old Hondas and Toyotas get excellent gas mileage. Not sure how fixing Hondas goes, but Toyotas are pretty good to work on

[timber oar]

Honda good

They both care about repairability

[wind peak]

Yeah I've considered Hondas but haven't looked into too much

[civic girder]

The only Honda I've ever owned has been mid, so idk how the older ones are

probably way better than the newer ones

unless its a v6 auto

[timber oar]

Well my old goldwing is still doing pretty well

[civic girder]

my friends family has had an 02 Oddyssey since new and its on its 3rd or 4th transmission

pretty typical for them

But I like the early 2000s Accords from what I've seen of them

[timber oar]

What the hell is an Odyssey

[civic girder]

minivan

if you live in the US I am shocked you haven't seen at least 4 on the way to work

[timber oar]

Oh yeah it's those disgusting blobs of steel

I recall now

[civic girder]

I love minivans

[timber oar]

Fk no

[civic girder]

the next shitbox I add to my collection will probably be another van

[stoic ledge]

Minivan > CUV

[civic girder]

I already own 2, no going back now

[timber oar]

I don't like huge stuff

[civic girder]

[timber oar]

Driven our truck and my Cadillac too much

[civic girder]

minivans are half the size of most trucks lmao

[civic girder]

my vans look small next to a 2020 Tacoma

[timber oar]

My Cadillac is longer than every parking space i put it in

[civic girder]

lol

[stoic ledge]

We had that problem with a 3er Wagon

[civic girder]

ironic

[timber oar]

Which

On the one hand i can't complain because god it's a beautiful car and rides so well

[civic girder]

[timber oar]

But damn its heavy and guzzles fuel

[stoic ledge]

Previa

[wind peak]

My dad was assigned a newer Chevy pickup truck as his work vehicle and it makes me wonder how people can judge anything sitting that high up off the ground.

[timber oar]

You get used to it

Biggest I've ever driven regularly is an f150

[civic girder]

ironically the red one is kinda broken rn

30k miles and can barely drive on the highway

[stoic ledge]

Broken Toyota

[civic girder]

no power

[stoic ledge]

That low miles

Shows that german GM cars are better

😛

[civic girder]

the O2 sensor might be fucked, not sure

[timber oar]

German cars are good for looking at and using but not working on

[civic girder]

hey the beige one has 230k miles, the diff begs for mercy, but it fucking runs and drives smooth as new

[stoic ledge]

[civic girder]

idk how the beige one has been so reliable tbh

it was a shitter when I bought it

but then again all the people that blow head gaskets in Previas are suffering from what's known as "Skill Issue"

or otherwise "User Error"

[stoic ledge]

I still can't believe you don't own a Camry wagon

[civic girder]

they are rare

[stoic ledge]

[civic girder]

same with Corolla wagons

[timber oar]

I encountered a tercel wagon in the wild

[civic girder]

there's some dude in a town near me that is hoarding all the Camry wagons

he has like 3 in his yard

I am jelly

[stoic ledge]

I would be a shame... If something happened to him

[civic girder]

but I don't think they ever made any awd Camry wagons

so tbh I'd rather go hunt for a Alltrac 5 speed sedan

rally build

[stoic ledge]

Why not both?

[civic girder]

no money

[stoic ledge]

Trade in the Honda Insight

[civic girder]

[stoic ledge]

I mean with that many Toyota's

Who needs a daily

[civic girder]

I mean, I still regret not waiting for a Corolla Hybrid

tbh the Insight is disappointing

the winter fuel economy is trash

[stoic ledge]

laughs in European Corolla Hybrid Wagon

[civic girder]

and you get the 2L hybrid

[stoic ledge]

Yeah both 1.8 and 2.0

[civic girder]

I might get the new Prius Prime in a few years thoo

we'll see

gotta fix my poor RX-7 and pay off the Honda

Might hang onto the Honda for a while too bc car payment + mortgage = not a fun time

[stoic ledge]

Here, suffer

[civic girder]

https://tenor.com/view/inugami-korone-snapped-vapourized-vaporized-obliterated-gif-24729500

[stoic ledge]

Reason why I'm hanging on to the mighty Corsa.. possibly buying a house in the near future

Rather have that money available 😜

Instead of wrapped up in a more expensive way to get stuck in traffic jams

[civic girder]

Yeah. I had to drop my car payment back to the minimum bc it was just stretching too thin

paying it off 2 months early is not worth the immediate suffering

I am less disappointed in the summer tho

I got 72mpg on the way home from work

[stoic ledge]

[civic girder]

Since mid april I have only been filling it once a month

my shorter commute that avoids freeway is so much better for fuel economy, especially in the Honda

[stoic ledge]

I'm not really that bother with fuel economy on my car as the fuel is 1/3 the price of petrol... But it does currently like 35MPG

But yeah that'd be over 100MPG for comparable costs on petrol

[civic girder]

If I keep my Corolla long enough I kinda want to EV swap it for the meme

and bc itd be so cheap

[stoic ledge]

And it really depends on usage, 1 week I fill it up 3 times, but the next fuel tank lasts me 3 weeks

[civic girder]

cheaper than buying an EV, and a super cheap daily overall

I have hardly driven the vans this year due to fuel cost lol

both are sitting on empty with the fuel light on

[stoic ledge]

I actually want to see how far the mighty Corsa can go ... And then I probably take a company car

[errant shore]

Ev swap ur vans

[civic girder]

Someone has EV swapped a Previa before

but he did not share many details on it

[stoic ledge]

[errant shore]

Foesnt ford make a shitty ev van?

[civic girder]

EV swapping the 2wd van would actually be really sick tbh

[errant shore]

Or is that vw

[stoic ledge]

Many companies have an EV van

Including VW yes

[errant shore]

No but like a really bad one with shit range

[stoic ledge]

Here, the perfect one for @civic girder

[errant shore]

Yes irs the vw one thats crap

[stoic ledge]

Maybe one of the earlier Crafter EV conversion

ID.Buzz range is alright

[errant shore]

The range is abt 45 miles

[stoic ledge]

Oh that one yeah

But that's a converted bus yeah

Forgot about that one

[errant shore]

Who thought it was a good idea fr

And its n9t cheap either

[stoic ledge]

I mean we get parcels delivery here with electric Renault Masters, those have like a 80-90km range

Does the job

They also have electric Ford Transits now

[errant shore]

Does Toyota make a small van? Ik they have the quantum but im in the market for a smaller van

[stoic ledge]

E-Transit nowadays has up to 300km iirc which makes it way more usable

[stoic ledge]

This is a small "Toyota" van

Depends on your market

[errant shore]

Not electric tho

[stoic ledge]

Also "Toyota" as it's basically a Peugeot

Also available with petrol and diesel

[errant shore]

Electric cars are a bad idea here unless you have solar

[stoic ledge]

1.2T petrol and 1.5 diesel

[errant shore]

Honestly the diesel looks like a good option

Thx

I was thinking of getting that small vw van but i have very little to say about vw

And ford doesnt sell a small transit in my area

[stoic ledge]

Which small Transit? They have multiple

The new Transit Connect is a VW Caddy iirc btw

If you want a small van, the Kangoo Open Sesame is also fun when it's available in your country

[bitter compass]

F for the caddy