cars

[stoic ledge]

I prefer is as it's an easy motion imho

[wispy cloak]

It isn't my car so it isn't my problem luckily

[stoic ledge]

Woah up and left

I'd say depends on how it's registered, if it's registered as an automatic then you can, otherwise not

[civic spoke]

That's what I say also.

Much like if a 4,500 kg truck is registered as 3,500 kg or not.

[feral reef]

If you wrap or paint a car, do you have to update the registration to reflect that?

Just looked it up, yes you do

[bitter compass]

Vw is a mess

Seemingly every single one is different

[tired sundial]

Yea all cars are defrent my dodge ram it’s left down

[brittle totem]

Don't even bother with using vw manual mode it will shift by it self anyways after a while.

[tired sundial]

Why would you be towing in a vw?

[feral reef]

Why not

[wispy cloak]

Small

[tired sundial]

How are you gona tow with a vw

[stoic ledge]

Also depends on what you call "towing", in Europe it's fairly common to tow something like a small trailer behind a car, but it's not like we're towing a massive car hauler

But yeah Amarok and similar can tow 3500kg in Europe

Yup

Almost every ladder chassis based truck

I don't have any recent pics as we don't have any car with a tow hook anymore, but woah a car with a "trailer"

Chevrolet Colorado? Idk if you get that

X-Class

I think they had it for 2-3 years?

Mitsubishi L200 is also one

And maybe you Aussies also get some Chinese shite?

Ah

Yeah that, I've seen them in AUS dashcam vids

Nice

We didn't really get Chinese cars until more recent with all the EV's coming

Only Landwind tried before but... Yeah

Great Wall is Chinese?

[civic spoke]

The worst trailering that I have done was a big 1 axle enclosed trailer. Towed with a Citroen Nemo...

[stoic ledge]

The design definitely isn't trying to copy mid 2000's Mazda

I bet

[civic spoke]

Asbestos in a modern car???

Whut

[stoic ledge]

China didn't get the memo

[civic spoke]

I know Asbestos was a thing with cigarettes 70 years ago.

[stoic ledge]

We get more Chinese cars now, and they're all not that great. Probably the only decent Chinese cars we can get is Nio? And maybe to some extent MG

[civic spoke]

China is still a place that produces real cheap products.

For better or worse.

[stoic ledge]

Not really something I look for un cars, cheap products

Although there's definitely a difference between cars developed in the West and produced there, and Chinese developed cars

Like if you get in a China built BMW iX3, that's a well built car

[civic spoke]

Yeah. All about what they are willing to pay for the manufacture.

Something like BMW have a certain standard that consumers demand of their vehicles.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah

[civic spoke]

But at the same time. You can get Rolex copies that are under $1.000. Which looks just like the real deal.

Copy of the movement and everything

[stoic ledge]

The iX3 is fairly un-BMW tho spec wise, basically Executive or High Executive, and then color/interior options, maybe 1 option pack and that's it. Not much customisation, where on regular BMW's you can almost spec it down to the screws it's assembled with

[civic spoke]

The modern world of vehicle production. Really.

Fewer options means cheaper production.

Just add all of the options that people expect from the car, and bake it into the price.

[stoic ledge]

True but with German made BMW's you can still choose a bit more

But that's often like here have a glass pano roof on a higher trim, which I don't want

[civic spoke]

Wasn't that mainly just seats, color options, etc?

Let me check what the Swedish market is like.

[stoic ledge]

Reduces head space in the rear often, can add noises, more heat in the summer etc

Opening roofs is nice, pano roof is useless

[brittle totem]

So the amarok doesn't have a tow mode ?

[stoic ledge]

I think the configurator doesn't show a lot of Individual stuff, only paint and seats to some extent, rest is done in in a dealer

People be like noooo need black roof liner to make interior too sporty

Also noooo need glass roof to make it brighter

[civic spoke]

Oh. The iX3 doesn't have many options. It does however have two different package. One basic one, and one with options. That adds ALL OF THE THINGS.

[stoic ledge]

😆

[stoic ledge]

Yeah literally what I said xP

I have a hate for pano roofs as 9/10 times I hit my head against the roof in the back

[civic spoke]

That's really what's done to make the whole thing cheaper to make. They just make two different trims. And that's all they have to worry about.

Looks like you can just have the panorama closed.

Or covered.

[stoic ledge]

When it's "covered" heat still comes in more than with a metal roof

[civic spoke]

The price difference between the two 'trims' isn't even that bad.

[stoic ledge]

Kek didn't think of thatz thanks

Yeah it's not too bad tbh

[civic spoke]

10% increase in price for all of the options.

[stoic ledge]

Basically 70k vs 75k here iirc

[civic spoke]

Still damn expensive as a whole.

[stoic ledge]

Iirc the iX3 is the cheapest X3 we can get

Or it's only like a small premium to a 2.0 diesel or something

[civic spoke]

The M340i is the same price as the iX3.

[stoic ledge]

Heh lemme check

Not here, I'm certain

iX3: €71.488
M340i: €88.241,30

[stoic ledge]

But muh cross-over

[feral reef]

Volvo

[civic spoke]

I guess we have a more of a base spec for the M340i

[stoic ledge]

Not really Chinese imho, if the HQ of the parent company determines the country of a brand, every single Stellantis product is Dutch

Maserati? Dutch

RAM? Dutch

Chrysler? Dutch

Hotel? Trivago

[stoic ledge]

Ah my price was also for the sedan, Touring is another 1500 more

[stoic ledge]

You forgot the lovely 🇳🇱 emissions tax

[civic spoke]

Sedan is a tad lower. Since you can also have it without the xDrive.

[civic spoke]

You don't know half of it here in Sweden.

[feral reef]

Can't be worse than NL

[civic spoke]

Lets find out what the emissions tax for Sweden is in the first three years.

[feral reef]

It'll be peanuts compared to NL, I'm almost sure

[stoic ledge]

Just road tax?

Oh damn there's also an M340d €92k

All M340 models here are xDrive tho

Atleast that's someone fucking me

[sudden pecan]

oh

[feral reef]

[stoic ledge]

Wait did you add options to it?

[feral reef]

No

[civic spoke]

For the first three years, then the road tax is 8,223 kr. Year 4+ is 1,856 kr. €735/165 in road tax.

[stoic ledge]

Road tax on my Corsa is almost €700/year

Get on my level

😛

[civic spoke]

Whut. That's stupid high.

[stoic ledge]

My brothers V40 D2 was €1400/year

🙃

[feral reef]

My dad's E220 CDI is like 1600/year

[civic spoke]

I guess that's why people bicycle there.

[sudden pecan]

mine costs me £30 a year

[stoic ledge]

?

[feral reef]

I think it might have pre configured something on mine

This site is weird

[brittle totem]

Doesn't all modern car with tow bar do that ? Otherwise it would have been i nightmare with all of the parking sensore auto braking feutures.

[stoic ledge]

I think so xP

[feral reef]

Ah yeah, got to the same 91k now

[stoic ledge]

Yeah if something plugged in to the 7/13-pin connector -> "tow mode" engaged, that's why on almost all modern cars an aftermarket tow hitch needs to be programmed

[stoic ledge]

[feral reef]

So the tax isn't that bad

21k

emissions tax

[stoic ledge]

I've seen worse yeah

[feral reef]

It's a mild hybrid, that's why

But still 33k in tax

over 1/3 of the price

[civic spoke]

Fun stuff.

[feral reef]

M3

62k in tax

[stoic ledge]

Just get a GR86, you'll pay more emissions tax :)

Vase price 32k, VAT 6750, emissions tax 25k

So, tax = 31672 on a 32128 car

[feral reef]

Have a look at the V8 Mustang

[stoic ledge]

I had before

I think the worst I've ever seen was a Defender 90, the old model

Wasn't me 👀

[feral reef]

[stoic ledge]

Oh yeah the V8 Defender is also insane

[civic spoke]

Taxes go BRRR

[stoic ledge]

Defender 90 be like, 14k before taxes, 3k VAT, 76k emissions tax for a total of 93k

[civic spoke]

Texas. Here I come!

[feral reef]

So the car is 54.7k including sales tax, the emissions tax is 62.8K

[stoic ledge]

That's 462% tax?

Let's gooo

[feral reef]

So 45k before tax, 118k after tax

[stoic ledge]

Still better than the 2016 Defender 90 xP

[bitter compass]

What are you lowland germans doing over there

[brittle totem]

Here in Sweden basically every "family" sized car has tow bar both my moms and my dads car has it and my Brother old e91 used to have it to.

[stoic ledge]

Just tax everything, great solution to all your problems

While being quite a wealthy country we have like the oldest cars of (western) Europe

[stoic ledge]

Really depends here, many won't tow anything ever so they don't spec it

[civic spoke]

Just having the four adults made it overweight.

[feral reef]

The annoying thing about these taxes on cars is that it hurts the people with less money the most

[stoic ledge]

Yup

[feral reef]

Meanwhile people with electric cars don't pay BPM nor do they pay road tax

Even though they do the most damage to our roads

Protective layer

[civic spoke]

Totally not overweight while empty. Nope. Not at all.

[stoic ledge]

So for NL, over 50% of the cars is over 10 years old, 25% is over 15 years old. The average car is 10.6 years old, at least is was in 2020, so idk what it's now, but back then 50% was over 9 years old, so as over 50% is 10 years old now the average age probably also has gone up

Ok I've found some more abstract numbers for 2022...

< 3 years old: 1.22 million
3-7 years old: 1.89 million
7-15 years old: 3.57 million
15+ years old: 2.26 million

The average age has gone up from 7 years in 2000 to 11 years in 2022

[civic spoke]

Of the Swedish-registered vehicles in traffic today (2021), motorcycles are the oldest (20.3 years on average), followed by heavy trucks (11.0 years), passenger cars (10.6 years) and light trucks (8.9 years) .

[bitter compass]

Im gonna say that won't be getting better by cars becoming more and more expensive

[stoic ledge]

Very likely it won't know

[feral reef]

Probably got worse during the chip shortage too

[stoic ledge]

being able to own a car is something for zhe rich 🥲

[feral reef]

jUsT tAkE pUbLiC tRaNsPoRt

[civic spoke]

Many older cars will only be scrapped and taken off the roads when the cost of repair overweigh the cost of the car.

[stoic ledge]

Oh yeah sure i'll walk for 1.5 hrs first to the nearest train station

[bitter compass]

And the push towards electric, which results in a 308 costing 35k or an up being 30k which is a jump of 10k

[civic spoke]

If we're talking about NL. Then they will just take a bicycle.

[feral reef]

Dutch cars often get exported to eastern europe

[stoic ledge]

And then they just roll back the mileage

[feral reef]

Because our roads are so good they're worth more than cars from other countries

[stoic ledge]

Bruh a 1.2 base level 308 is already 33k here

[civic spoke]

I think that Dacia is still one of the cheapest cars here?

[bitter compass]

Well Germany won't dare to increase taxes on cars, the poor souls at vag and bmw

[feral reef]

Who would pay 19k for an Up

[stoic ledge]

Mitsubishi Space Star is the cheapest here I think

[civic spoke]

You know. Just having a Dacia Sandero makes sense in ways.

[stoic ledge]

A Sandero is probably the smartest choice... although if you have a car which is perfectly fine, continuing driving that is probably the best option currently

[civic spoke]

It's under 120,000 kr. Which you could easily pay off in full over a couple of years.

Yeah.

Just keeping what you have on the road, is many times the best option.

[stoic ledge]

Sandero starts at €16700 here btw

[civic spoke]

Lets see what it is now.

[stoic ledge]

But then you don't even have AC

[bitter compass]

Im already out at the 15k€ in Germany - im even more out at the 30k for an e-up the 19k for a gti are surprisingly stable - but mine costed 10k and its still the same car it hasn't got an update since 2011

[stoic ledge]

So you want atleast the Expression model which starts at €18450

For a Sandero, that's already fairly expensive imho

[civic spoke]

Damn. Recommended price of 160,000 kr

[stoic ledge]

My grandparents previous Laureate (= top model) in 2017 was €14k

[stoic ledge]

Yeah we also had up!'s for like €9990 when they first came out, granted no AC or power windwos etc but you could get a car, and fully loaded it was like 14-15k?

[brittle totem]

Yes even on lower end models like 3 series.

[civic spoke]

The frozen paints are terrible, and you should never get them.
Change my mind.

[stoic ledge]

27k for a base Polo is also ridiculous

[bitter compass]

Idk the only thing i don't have is powered mirrors, which was like 200€

[civic spoke]

Polo isn't even available here anymore. (:

[stoic ledge]

Wait really?

Well you're not missing out on anything

[bitter compass]

Only thing about the up that is stable is the 4 door option which is also 200€

[civic spoke]

The Polo is a great size.

[bitter compass]

Ye a golf got kinda too big, polo is kinda perfect

[brittle totem]

Yes but not with the same options you basically need to and 15k worth of options on the M340I to get it on the same level as high spec IX3.

[feral reef]

Isn't that what a base Golf used to cost?

[stoic ledge]

I've said it many times before, for any VW there's almost always a better alternative somewhere else in VAG

[stoic ledge]

Yeah Golf Mk7 used to be less

[civic spoke]

Is it because the VW T-Cross is a thing?

[stoic ledge]

A fully optioned Fabia al barely more than a base VW Polo (with the same engine)

[civic spoke]

The Mk7.5 Golf is class. Best generation.

[brittle totem]

This most be joke it is the main page of the BMW website here in Sweden.

[stoic ledge]

Also on the NL page

[feral reef]

[civic spoke]

"Vistion Dee's NUTS"

[bitter compass]

Its always because of skoda

[deep zealot]

DeeMW

[stoic ledge]

Ngl base Golf was definitely equipped worse than a current Polo

[civic spoke]

Also - All of the current ID cars are trash.

[stoic ledge]

But yeah 10 years ago that was normal

[feral reef]

Yeah but it was less than a base Up 😂

[stoic ledge]

My parents Meriva in 2011 was like 23k with a 1.4 Turbo

[bitter compass]

I think currently the up doesn't have any options anymore

[stoic ledge]

[brittle totem]

Wait what so the road tax is higher on my dads 2.0tdi Passat then M140I xDrive ?

[civic spoke]

Emissions. Baby.

[stoic ledge]

Diesel bad m'kay

[bitter compass]

At least last time i checked because i was actually considering just swapping my rusty lil guy out for an electric one

[feral reef]

Not a lot, but still some

[stoic ledge]

Road tax on diesel is probably higher

[feral reef]

But yeah you can max out an Up for only about 4k

That actually looks pretty good

[civic spoke]

I would totally be down for a Polo GTI

[stoic ledge]

Facelifted Polo is hideous AF

[feral reef]

Starts at 41k here

[stoic ledge]

Kek just wanted to say the same

[civic spoke]

Used. Because they actually aren't available.

[stoic ledge]

It can be yours for a mere €41590

Just import one gg ez clap

[feral reef]

Yeah just noticed, can't actually configure it

Polo configurator is just disabled

[bitter compass]

ah yes very options

[feral reef]

Golf too

[stoic ledge]

In NL? No it's not

[bitter compass]

they made everything in the up standard now at leats in germany

[feral reef]

Oh actually no, the base model of the Gold you can configure

[bitter compass]

you get colour thats it

[feral reef]

Oh wait, I had to pick an engine

[brittle totem]

When we hade a bicycle stand on attached to tow bar which doesn't need to be plugged in on my dads Passat it would randomly hit the automatic emergency breaks when reversing when it felt like it and don't forget the parking sensors beeps that just keep getting louder when you ignore them on modern VW.

[stoic ledge]

Just spec it up to €50458, no problem

[feral reef]

You're faster 😂

[stoic ledge]

[civic spoke]

If you're buying a used car here in Sweden. Then you need to be looking for something that's 3+ years old at a minimum to avoid the increased taxes.

[feral reef]

Tax breakdown

[bitter compass]

Yikes

[stoic ledge]

You mean those "high" road taxes? Which are less than my Corsa? 😛

[civic spoke]

11k in taxes. Fun.

[stoic ledge]

11k in emissions tax + 6.5k in VAT*

[civic spoke]

Your taxes are just flat out stupid. Tbh

[feral reef]

18 k you mean

[stoic ledge]

So like 18k on a Polo total

[feral reef]

You can buy an Up for that

[brittle totem]

Most people just spec it because they will get the money here because the always goes for me and are easier to sell if they have tow bar from factory here. Specially if its on wagon.

[civic spoke]

As I said before. No wonder so much of the population bicycles.

Just get a €10k electric bicycle and be done with it.

[stoic ledge]

€10k electric bicycle

[bitter compass]

They do be existing at that price

My company offers a leasing service for such bikes

[feral reef]

Let's spec electric bicyles

[stoic ledge]

On a company car you pay tax over the book value and an option like that costs you like €10/month more in tax, and if you don't use it... and as a company car you don't care about resale value

[bitter compass]

Probably has more hp than my up

[stoic ledge]

[feral reef]

My mom has a "Stella"

[bitter compass]

And weights the same

[stoic ledge]

Yikes Stella

[feral reef]

I always think it's funny that bikes for men have the "ball crusher" bar, but bikes for women don't

[civic spoke]

Here you go. https://www.mantel.com/en/urban-arrow-cargo-line

[stoic ledge]

Oh god

Bakfietsen

[civic spoke]

You can totally use that as a car replacement in many cases.

[stoic ledge]

I probably hate those more than VW's

[bitter compass]

Im fine with those.. just the people that get those are pretty often dicks

Tbh might also just be city people

[civic spoke]

But really. If you have one of those, and live where you can actually make use of it.

Then your return of investment is huge.

[bitter compass]

I have never seen one of those in mountain village

Which makes sense

I guess

[civic spoke]

That one is electric assist.

[stoic ledge]

Almost all of those are electric assisted nowadays

[civic spoke]

Ayo. That one is even belt drive. Nice.

[brittle totem]

So that's like 1,500€ more then a base VW Tiago here which are quite nicely spaced as standard but for some reason it still comes with manual ac controls.

[civic spoke]

Belt driven bicycles are nice. Especially for EV's.

[stoic ledge]

I have belt driven bicycle

No e-bike tho

[stoic ledge]

That's another 5k I think

[empty warren]

VW is so overpriced for what it is

[feral reef]

Is it?

You get a very decent card without too much fluff

[civic spoke]

Minimal maintenance and noise is nice.

[empty warren]

it is, yeah

[brittle totem]

Yup the M340D road tax are like 500€ more then M340I

[empty warren]

what 26k for a base golf?

[stoic ledge]

It is, if I spec the Astra Hybrid I can get as a company and a Golf eHybrid the same, the Golf is 8k more

[feral reef]

Yeah but then you get an Opel

[stoic ledge]

Yeah so it's even better

[empty warren]

the latest astra is quite good

[stoic ledge]

Better seats, physical HVAC controls, physical volume knob

So better

[empty warren]

doesnt need a ton of proprietary tools to service it

[stoic ledge]

[empty warren]

mfw VW puts a metal cover on the oil filler cap so you have to buy a special VW compatible oil can

[feral reef]

New Astra is quite pretty

[feral reef]

lol, do you have a picture of this?

[empty warren]

https://preview.redd.it/o288e29yrq231.jpg?auto=webp&s=549536f2dd09010f6b395717c4bc334dfc4b36f9

sorry not metal, plastic

and here is a decent VAG group oil funnel

with the special adapter

you can probably remove it but its still a pain in the ass

[brittle totem]

Well a Golf GTI starts from 34,5k€ in Sweden. And the club sport one is a bit over 40k€ and the R model is 47,5k€

[stoic ledge]

Modern TDI's also need like oil sucked out of it, doesn't have an oil plug

2 waterpumps, 1 electronic so you definitely know that'll fail

[feral reef]

Your GOLF GTI is cheaper than our Polo GTI

[stoic ledge]

Kek that GTI is basically the same price as our base level 1.0

[empty warren]

the golf is the same price as a base 1 series almost

[feral reef]

Mercedes has that too right?, mechanics love it apparently, they have a special oil sucking machine

[stoic ledge]

Could be

I hate it

It's nice if you have the 5k machine which does it

[empty warren]

yeah its convenient as a mechanic but makes it annoying for the average owner

[stoic ledge]

And then they charge you 400€ for an oil change

[brittle totem]

But if you wan a "new" used on the polo they are only available with this ugly trim on the dashboard in Sweden.

[empty warren]

think id rather take the gr yaris over the polo gti

[civic spoke]

Could have been worse.

[empty warren]

oh tbf the polo gti is a lot cheaper used

[stoic ledge]

Probably wrecked 3 times already

[empty warren]

nope

none of them are CAT S, CAT D or CAT N

all clean

[stoic ledge]

Or driven hard

[empty warren]

i guess but that applies to any car

more likely these tho

[stoic ledge]

Every GTI I see driving around is driven by some shady person

That's as specific as I'd like to get 😛

[empty warren]

might as well get a new one for a couple thousand extra nvm

[stoic ledge]

They attract some certain people

[stoic ledge]

Just pay 50k for a new one

Ez

[empty warren]

lemme spec up here

[feral reef]

I know exactly what you mean

It's the same type 90% of the time

[stoic ledge]

Yeah

[brittle totem]

I like the "description" on the GTI clubsport is just says "Racing feeling" I really doubt that.

[stoic ledge]

I might be getting this .. I quite like the yellow but I don't know if they'll accept that colour, if not I'll be gray probably

Also, sadly no GS-Line, too expensive, doesn't fit in with my budget 😭

[empty warren]

the yellow works so nicely on the new astra

[feral reef]

No, don't go gray

Don't be boring

[stoic ledge]

Well I want the yellow

[feral reef]

Get a red car, they go faster

[stoic ledge]

Red is nice but it needs those wheels tbh... And those are GS Line

That won't fit in my budget

[feral reef]

My co worker got a gold Yaris Cross

[stoic ledge]

Yikes

[feral reef]

Like this

[empty warren]

mmm

nice colour

nice car too

[stoic ledge]

I like the colour, not the car xP

[feral reef]

I love when people don't go with a boring color

[stoic ledge]

If it's up to me it'll be like this

[brittle totem]

Base M135I xDrive is 46.5k€ Here so you can probably get some decent options on it and still get it for the same price as fully loaded polo GTI in the Netherlands.

[stoic ledge]

Well within budget

If it was really up to me I'd get the GS Line but hey

[feral reef]

My desire to move to Sweden grows by the day

Cheap houses, cheap cars, beautiful women

What's not to love

[stoic ledge]

To help you, their electricity is like 15c/kWh

Now go

[empty warren]

specced every single option

44k eur

[stoic ledge]

Cheap

No still expensive

[feral reef]

Still a Polo

[stoic ledge]

So disappointed it's 44442€, not 44444€

[feral reef]

I'd pay 2 euros more

And then they'd get pissed because it messes with their finances

[stoic ledge]

Regular trim Astra in red is .. not that great? Idk

Wait no boring colour you say?

[brittle totem]

Nah housing is it exactly cheap if you want to live at an decent place but not sure how market is in your country its probably worse.

[feral reef]

I know

[stoic ledge]

It's bad

[feral reef]

Also it's not white.... it;'s silver

But I wanted red

But couldn't get the spec I wanted

At a decent price

[empty warren]

f u n k y c a t

fuck i need to book my car in for an MOT

[stoic ledge]

If I get the Astra as a wagon the standard colour is red

[feral reef]

I saw a red one a couple of days ago, and that kinda hurt

[stoic ledge]

I quite like the look of those, for a Chinese thing

[brittle totem]

Not anymore it was at average of 0,67€/kwh in December not sure if that's before or after tax.

[feral reef]

Best red in the game

My KWh price is good now

Because variable rate

[stoic ledge]

I'm glad my Corsa isn't red, that's an ugly red

OPC was nice in red

Henna Red

Pls gib

[feral reef]

best red

[stoic ledge]

Green NRE is also thicc

[feral reef]

Is that an OPC?

[stoic ledge]

OPC Nürburgring Edition yeah

[brittle totem]

And don't forget that a parking space in Stockholm can cost up to 150k€

[feral reef]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVwZS8g7HuY

[stoic ledge]

Kek, imagine wanting to live in a city

Amsterdam is also as ridiculous like that

I've been there once, and hated every single second I've been there

It's the worst

[feral reef]

I don't like Amsterdam

Makes me feel like I'm about to get stabbed

And I can't even order food or drinks in Dutch

[stoic ledge]

I hate every single thing about it

[civic spoke]

I'm reminded at how some people laughed at Matt Farah's proposal for his car storage facility.

[stoic ledge]

And then tourists be like "oMg hOlLaNd Is AmAzIng, vIsItEd aMsTeRdAm iTs ThE bEsT"... No it's horrendous, and calling NL Holland 🤮

/rant

[brittle totem]

I don't want to live in they city either at least not in the central part. But if you want to live near a big city housing is very expensive like your regular family house is at least 600k€ but probably more only plot to build on is like 300-350k€ where I live.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah that's normal here not even per se near a big city

You see this? Only the left half (it's an attached home), 300m² property: €785k. And it's not even a city

Not that I want to live in a city

Small towns ftw

[brittle totem]

We live like 25 km from "down town" Stockholm. And this is with the current prices they used to be a lot higher when the economy was on its "normal level"

[brittle totem]

This is what you get for 525k€ where I live and it is 170 m² big.

[stoic ledge]

Go to Amsterdam and a row house in this condition is 1.7M

[stoic ledge]

525k for 170m² of home? Not too bad What's the plot size?

[brittle totem]

1 063 m² is the plot size

[stoic ledge]

Big AF

[brittle totem]

Build in 1977 but practically renovated after that.

[stoic ledge]

That's definitely not worse than here

[brittle totem]

I think ours is like nearly 2000 m²

[stoic ledge]

Ours 282m² and for NL that's definitely above average

The average house doesn't have a driveway here, just public parking

[brittle totem]

Well our driveway fits 3 cars perfectly and 4 if you don't use one of them. And every house has its own driveway where i live the ones that barely has an plot.

[civic spoke]

I would love a garage big enough to fit a truck and maybe two cars.

[brittle totem]

Here is what you get in Sweden its basically as close as you get to central of Stockholm if you want to live in your own house for around 1,6m€.

[civic spoke]

Would more or less need a small barn.

[civic spoke]

Ayo. Need for Speed.

[quiet jay]

Carbon

[stoic ledge]

Oof with a pool... Currently just 2 for sale in Amsterdam, both luxury appartements so no plot, pool is in the building so not private... 3.25M and 3.45M

[stoic ledge]

All modern stuff is something like this, row houses, no driveways just public parking

The houses in that picture go for ~550-600k

Those narrower ones for 400+k

[brittle totem]

But there are way more expensive houses to a in more Wheatly parts of Stockholm more on the outside near the sea then you got to pay like 3-15m€ for a house with a pool.

[stoic ledge]

And they just have 82m² plots

[stoic ledge]

Well sure near the sea A-dam has nothing like that. No nature, no sea, no nothing

[quiet jay]

that's sad actually, overpriced junk

[stoic ledge]

I totally agree

[brittle totem]

Similar here at the "new area" where I live they are very expensive to and nearly no plot size at all.

[stoic ledge]

All detached homes tho, such luxury

Ah not all

But many

[brittle totem]

And its build on old airfield which make it very windy so it gets quite cold there during the winters.

[brittle totem]

Most of those are splitted in two for 2 different family's

[stoic ledge]

Semi-detached, still rather fancy

[stoic ledge]

Also the lack of solar in this picture for such new houses is astounding to me

[brittle totem]

And then we have those kind of houses to they all looks the same and are the same size and I think they go for like 550-650k€

[charred depot]

Our 1 car drive now fits 3 via tetris

Massive slope aswell would be great fun if one car died

[wispy cloak]

My shocks are actively dripping oil

Time for bilsteins

[brittle totem]

Our one looks like this and its average sized i would say for our neighborhood.

[charred depot]

Big driveway

I just wish ours was level

Minor shock leak

[brittle totem]

And this is house on the opposite side of ours this is what i call a big driveway and its asphalt to.

[wispy cloak]

Ok mine aren't that bad

But they are so blown that they drip oil everywhere I park

The rears at least

[charred depot]

The oil smells so bad

[wispy cloak]

Is it as bad as used gear oil

[charred depot]

Worse

[wispy cloak]

Oh boy

[stoic ledge]

Just go B16's

[wispy cloak]

I was gonna get 5100s

https://blessedperformance.com/bilstein-24-065283-5100-series-shock-absorber/

To replace the mx pro comp or whatever is on it now

[stoic ledge]

We can fit like 2 behind eachother which is fairly normal for our town but definitely not the 🇳🇱 norm
(Friends car btw)

[wispy cloak]

We can park two regular cars in a row on either side of the driveway

And one on the concrete pad

And one in the garage

Half of our garage is full of mowers and bikes

[stoic ledge]

Garage is filled with everything except a car

[wispy cloak]

My truck takes up a lot of space

Like two spots on the driveway

[stoic ledge]

A truck won't fit in ours

Anything slightly larger than my car won't fit in it

[wispy cloak]

Probably gonna start driving the a4 soon so it'll be coming home too

I hope my truck fits on the concrete pad

[brittle totem]

This House is super weird it was listed for 15 million a while back but the fun thing it that they don't even own the beach that is attached to that plot which means that it public space so everyone is allowed to go for a swim from there bridge which is build on public space. So the bridge need to be removed because its not legal.

[stoic ledge]

Kek nice

[wispy cloak]

What in the world is that modernistic brick of an abode

[stoic ledge]

dEsIgN

[charred depot]

Room for 3 atleast

[stoic ledge]

If we try, maybe

But then you won't be able to enter the garage anymore I think

[brittle totem]

A group of people hosted a "beach party" on there bridge because the could this summer. https://twitter.com/i/status/1541052296989233154

Folkets bad (@FolketsBad)

50 - 60 personer badar vid den allmänna helikopterplattan

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[stoic ledge]

[feral reef]

mOdErN aRChITeCtUrE

[civic spoke]

At a dang helipad?

[brittle totem]

Yes and its obviously illegal to.

[stoic ledge]

Looks like a standard boat jetty to me

[charred depot]

2 side by side at the front squeezed surely

[stoic ledge]

Uuuuhm I think that's just too narrow, or maybe it fits but you can't get out

[charred depot]

Get thin doors bozo

[stoic ledge]

Hmm yeah that's just under 4 meters wide, might work but a very tight squeeze

[charred depot]

Plenty

[brittle totem]

Looks similar to the new houses that are being build where I live.

I quite like the looks of the new Tiago and it looks why better then t-cross that it is replacing.

But those fake exhaust just why VW.

[stoic ledge]

Except ours is from 1965

But that's a very common style of the 60s and 70s in NL

[stoic ledge]

Not replaced tho?

They are offered next to each other

[brittle totem]

I think it is here in Sweden at least they cost nearly the same.

[stoic ledge]

Prices are close but it's it's just a variant of the same car, the T-Cross is the regular and the Taiga is the cOuPe SuV

Same as the Passat and Arteon co-exist for example

Or previously, the Scirocco and Golf

[brittle totem]

I think our house is from the same year but we have added a new part to it which was build in 2012-2014.

[stoic ledge]

The Taigo is to the T-Cross what the Arteon is to the Passat

[brittle totem]

But the price difference between the Arteon and the Passat is huge if you want a similar specced one.

[stoic ledge]

Ours is also completely renovated, and has an addition from ~2009

[stoic ledge]

Hmm not here really

Well Arteon is more

But so is the Taigo

All "coupified" cars are more than their regular counterparts

[brittle totem]

Or at least they where when my dad ordered his Passat but that's where before they removed nearly everything that used to be standard on the Passat and made you pay extra for it.

[stoic ledge]

Arteon is more here but that's also because I can spec the Arteon only as 2.0 TSI and the Passat as 1.5 TSI

[charred depot]

arteon is like like volkswagen being jealous of audi

cmon vag lemme be the luxury

[brittle totem]

Well the Taigo is way less here both are similar speced but you cant have the T-cross with led matrix lights so the Taigo have way better lights and are still cheaper then the T-cross.

[stoic ledge]

The difference is ~7k similarly equipped but with the engine difference that's not too bad

[civic spoke]

Bleh. Have barely been any work for me lately.

[stoic ledge]

T-Cross is a very meh car tbh

[civic spoke]

Tomorrow I'm having a real short day.

Just the one customer who wants three loads between 11~14

[brittle totem]

And why are every car manufactures websites in Swedish and English's at the same time.

[civic spoke]

Finance Product.

Sweden loves its Swenglish.

[stoic ledge]

Do you mean those random English phrases on the page?

[brittle totem]

Yes that's a new thing it didn't use to be like that.

[civic spoke]

I guess it should just say "Finans"?

Or Finansiering.

[brittle totem]

But it says selected payment method and check full price to.

[civic spoke]

Then it should switch to "kontant"?

Idk

[brittle totem]

And that T-cross cost more then Passat my dad got 2 years ago and that car even has twice as much power and "AWD" and more options on it.

[civic spoke]

Cash vs finance.

[brittle totem]

Same thing with the BMW website to some random things was in English.

[charred depot]

Coworker could have decapitated themselves, werent looking and drove into our barrier which is at windscreen height

A pillars are fucked

They didnt brake at all were purely stopped by the barrier which is like 10mm square tubing

[brittle totem]

I like how VW just straight up copied tesla interior with the new ID 7

[charred depot]

Well hey atleast the hazard lights is an actual button

can press it before trying to perform an action on the touchscreen to let everyone else know you are a hazard

[brittle totem]

The hazard light is button to on the model 3 and y but it is in weird place.

[civic spoke]

Hate it with a passion.

Dear auto manufacturers. Please understand that Less is More.

[tepid wing]

I hope that "buttons are safer" study changes things.

[dense shard]

Automakers already going back

Honda and Mazda are notable examples

[tepid wing]

Modeling your new stuff after the stupid new guy isn't a good idea.

[charred depot]

gotta stay hip n cool

[dense shard]

Eh there was a trend towards touchscreens before

[civic spoke]

They like screens because it's the new fancy thing to do, people want it.

[dense shard]

It's cheaper

[civic spoke]

And it's cheaper to produce than just using buttons

[tepid wing]

Yeah but they didn't do everything for no reason.

[civic spoke]

So much cheaper to produce than using molds for buttons and everything.

[charred depot]

mfw the market is delusional

[tepid wing]

Yeah it's cheaper but cars aren't cheap.

[civic spoke]

My father recently got himself a new A6 as a lease. 🤢

[civic spoke]

That's because they require fancier technology to support the screens and everything.

[tepid wing]

Once you have the molds and such setup you can use it on multiple cars.

What do you guys think of a 2023 Bolt (UAQ5EM) with a Comma 3?

[civic spoke]

Around $31k for a Bolt seems reasonable enough.

Don't know what you mean with "Comma 3" though

[tepid wing]

https://comma.ai/shop/comma-three

[wet summit]

here's my free car lmao

[tepid wing]

Free is pretty cheap.

[civic spoke]

No idea how well those systems can work. I rather just drive myself.

[wispy cloak]

Yummers

[civic spoke]

Ouch. Blown shock?

[wispy cloak]

Yeah

Both rears are bad

[civic spoke]

Looks easy enough to swap out at least.

[wispy cloak]

Don't even need a jack

[tepid wing]

It's best in class and has the best safety controls of any system.

[stoic ledge]

Doesn't the new Bolt come with Supercruise?

[civic spoke]

Maybe not the normal Bolt and only the EUV?

[stoic ledge]

Could be

[tepid wing]

Supercruise is far inferior to Comma's offering.

But yeah, it's the EUV one.

[civic spoke]

Still fairly pricey at almost $2,000

[stoic ledge]

I wish Europe got the Bolt, would be a decent EV

[charred depot]

Due to the nature of jobs im going for I may have to fold and get a more mmmreliable car

less a problem of reliability and more so that doing this mileage and how long it can take me to get parts

turns up to interview in 305, you may leave

[tepid wing]

It used to be more expensive, but it's also a really good webcam so that's a few hundred dollars you can knock off the price.

[civic spoke]

Sadly isn't many cheap EV's in Europe with decent range.

[tepid wing]

This one only has a rated range of 259 miles, but in 99% of cases that's fine.

(417KM)

[stoic ledge]

That'd be perfect for us for literally every trip except 1 vacation/year

So yeah that'd be fine

[tepid wing]

Man, sometimes I forget how different the geographic scales are.

For me the next state over is over 4 hours away.

[civic spoke]

If I want to visit my cousins up the country. Then it's like 500 km's away.

But that would be fine. Since we always stop to eat long the way.

[tepid wing]

My cousins are in the same country 22 hours away.

[charred depot]

I should really have taken a break when bringing the Xantia back up from England. Didnt eat anything as expected to break down

[civic spoke]

If I wanted to drive to the west coast, then it would also be around 450~500 km's.

But there are plenty of good places along the route to stop for food.

[tepid wing]

Honestly I really want the C3 for longer stretches like going to the other cities.

[civic spoke]

Citroen C3?

For real-world EV range. Then I'm generally good if I have 100 km to use.

[tepid wing]

Comma 3 -> C3.

[brittle totem]

Europe have the MG4 which is decent and way better value then id3 at least

[civic spoke]

Still the same damn thing.

[brittle totem]

But way cheaper (:

[fathom socket]

What this means?

[wispy cloak]

Reactor water level low

Meltdown imminent

[plucky flame]

Similar to a check engine light

[civic spoke]

The fact that it has those lines through it makes me think something related to the cooling system?

Oh, wait. Maybe it's the air dryer???

Either that. Or water in the fuel filter.

Looks a bit like a filter to me.

[fathom socket]

It looks like upside-down bell with fluid

[fathom socket]

Good one

[plucky flame]

What exactly is this on

[civic spoke]

I want to say that it's water in the fuel filter.

[fathom socket]

MassIVECO Starlis

[civic spoke]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Cartalk/comments/e1z91m/unknown_warning_light_any_help_2010_iveco_daily/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Got it. Warning to do with the fuel filter.

[fathom socket]

Hmm

It's the first time I see this

And I have no what to do

Or how this happens

[civic spoke]

I've been getting a message about water in the fuel as well lately. But seems to run fine? Idk

There might be ways to drain it. But lord knows that I can't find it.

[plucky flame]

Water is good for you

[civic spoke]

Not for diesel trucks. Engine doesn't like it all that much.

[civic spoke]

Damn it. I might have to flip the cab again. We will see.

[charred depot]

scavenging diesel be like

[carmine summit]

it does when you spray small amounts in the intake

[misty mantle]

Its most likely a "Water in fuel" indicator

[misty mantle]

Try running watery cherry flavored diesel.

My dads tractor just bogs down a bit and puts some smoke out the exhaust, but powers right through it, at least it does most of the time. There have been a few times that we has to take the filter off and dump it out because there was too much water in it.

[misty mantle]

https://youtu.be/bLRF-LRgvJk

Yes, I know its a 2-stroke

Yes, I know those tend to be a little different from a 4-stroke

@civic spoke

[wispy cloak]

Lightly used shocks $80 takes the set

No lowballers I know what I got

[timber oar]

Lmao

[fathom socket]

I might be getting a 1994 gmc sierra

@dusk ocean look it up :)

it's the extended cab one

[vocal mural]

AutoTrack removed their free carfax report? 😥

[civic spoke]

@fathom socket started up the truck just now. Nagged about water and feels way low on power

[fathom socket]

Mine is kinda random.
Gives random ecm errors and then they dissappear

[civic spoke]

Same

[fathom socket]

Also apparently there are 2 gearboxes for my car

Dm37 or dm74

[civic spoke]

That's what it shows for me.

[eternal cedar]

Pump in the rain, classic.

[fathom socket]

What now

[stoic ledge]

Doesn't that thing come with an owners manual?

[tired sundial]

I did an oil change after skipping 4 oil lights

[vocal mural]

Heating

[civic spoke]

Just no idea what for.

[fathom socket]

I don't have patience reading German

[stoic ledge]

Deutsch lesen ist wirklich einfach

[wispy cloak]

It is done

[vocal mural]

For Dutchies

[civic spoke]

Hot damn the documentation is terrible. I can't find anything about it.

[dusk ocean]

Nice - I had a few GMCs

[civic spoke]

I give up. You're on your own Talon.

[stoic ledge]

Also can't find it, and no proper operator manual where they explain it

[fathom socket]

Also my truck apparently has the r word brake in gearbox and engine brake

[civic spoke]

Yeah. The tarder brake.

It's just that if it was that. Then it would have the ( ) for brakes.

[civic spoke]

I think your best bet is honestly to just look up the manual, even if it is in german...

[brittle totem]

You can always use google lens it should be decent enough for you to be able to understand it fine.

[fathom socket]

try and search it witth a shite ton of pages

not practical

[civic spoke]

I would just flip through the pages until I get to the ones showing error stuff.

All of that stuff always have images to show what it is.

[fathom socket]

also I have no time for this now

need to do it tomorrow when I get parts for my personal car

[carmine summit]

I just don't get watery diesel lol

[wispy cloak]

I just have an easy to access water fuel separater

One allen headed drain plug is all it takes to drain

[carmine summit]

my fuel filters come with integrated toolless water separators

twist it loose, let some drain, twist back tight

[wispy cloak]

Somebody probably makes a toolless one that you can put in

But there's so little water that it doesn't really matter

[charred depot]

Mine has toolless water seperstor stock along with the filter housing being heated

[wispy cloak]

I have a weird fuel filter setup

I have the high pressure diesel pump with has the separator built in

That pumps into another filter

I think the diesel pump has a filter too

[tepid wing]

Imagine getting a diesel vehicle, couldn't be me. :^)

(I know they have their uses, it's a joke)

[stoic ledge]

So sad diesel is taxed like crazy

Otherwise I'd have bought my brothers Volvo

[charred depot]

plunger on my primer is a bit cracked so if I park facing uphill I have to pop the bonnet and pump fuel back to the pump before it will start

fix: always park facing uphill

or downhill for bozo antitheft

[bitter compass]

Diesel is a scam in Germany rn

More taxed but also more expensive than benzin

[stoic ledge]

Tax on diesel cars is twice as much as on petrol cars But the fuel is actually a few cents cheaper

My brothers Volvo actually got exported 😭

Sadge

But no market here for it really

[charred depot]

diesel is more expensive here but eh

[stoic ledge]

Yeah but then you get to enjoy the endless amounts of torque and power from your diesel engine

No wait

[charred depot]

soooon

[bitter compass]

Well im not the target audience for a diesel anyways.. soo wuu i pay less than ever for my 95

But imma be looking at EVs as replacement for the little guy because they actually work for me

[stoic ledge]

Idk of the road tax was the same as the car on petrol I'd drive it

But paying €1400/year for a base engine Golf-sized car in tax is a bit too much

[bitter compass]

Thehehe

I pay 50€ per year in tax

1L petrol masterrace

[stoic ledge]

Heh my Corsa is already nearly €700

But doubling that is a bit too much 😂

And the Corsa has the benefit op LPG/Autogas so it's worth it

[bitter compass]

But my insurance is actually being quite hurt by not having any assistance systems because they're safety...

[stoic ledge]

My insurance is even more than my tax

Tax and insurance are way more than fuel

[charred depot]

My insurance is very cheap now for my age especially when you factor in it doesent have the original engine

Insured on a classic car policy but commuting added on

[stoic ledge]

[bitter compass]

I wonder why they even bother to tax the up

It literally costs them more if they have to deal with it

[stoic ledge]

Ngl that's with many things

[charred depot]

A 2001 - 2017 car is best to own here tax wise

[stoic ledge]

More administrative costs then what it brings

Everything 0-25 years old is taxed by the same rule... 25-40 years is the price of 0-25 but at 25% of the price, but can't drive it Dec-Feb, 40+ is free

[tepid wing]

I can't wait to be able to buy a car.

[bitter compass]

Well.. if you buy new - 6 months or more waiting time, and it costs a fortune
If you buy used, be prepared to pay what the owner paid when he bought it because apparently thats normal

You can't wait to own a car might be a better statement 👀

[wispy cloak]

I might try to throw my a4 up on marketplace with some price that's kind of high and mention that I'll trade for a jetta tdi

I want a diesel econobox for the fuel economy

After a dpf delete I could probably get like 40mpg or something

[misty mantle]

FASS System?

[wispy cloak]

No it's stock

[plucky flame]

VW XL1?

[jolly harbor]

https://racine.craigslist.org/ctd/d/pleasant-prairie-2011-vw-jetta-wagon-25/7576179517.html

Does this look decent for the money?

[wispy cloak]

It looks suspiciously cheap to me

[jolly harbor]

I messaged the guy and he seems rather apathetic about it

[wraith rivet]

“some rust”

uh oh

try to go see it in person and check the frame and everything out

every tiny little detail

[jolly harbor]

I'm popping down tomorrow to look at it

[stoic ledge]

condition: excellent

[jolly harbor]

the only rust I can see on the body is the hatch

[civic spoke]

$2,400 for a Jetta doesn't sound too bad.

[stoic ledge]

But I mean for the price, if it runs and Drives without weird noises or leaks, no structural rust.... It's a good deal

Imho

[civic spoke]

I'd take it.

[charred depot]

£500

[stoic ledge]

Too modern for you

Can't fix it with a hammer

[civic spoke]

But as the seller says. Can't expect too much for the price.

[stoic ledge]

Although any VW can be improved with a hammer

[civic spoke]

Says that it has the heater. Nothing about AC.

[charred depot]

Have a few job interviews to go to I know the 305 is gonna fuck me over

I breakdown now

[wispy cloak]

It's probably unibody

So I'd check pinchwelds

Structural rust is very bad

Body rust isn't bad safety wise

[charred depot]

ofc its unibody its a lil jetta

[stoic ledge]

Kek imagine it body on frame

[gloomy cove]

It sounds like I am hitting a bump but I can assure you it is not that is a rough shift and it happens only at low rpm

[stoic ledge]

Lol that's a scary sound

[charred depot]

its fine aslong as you dont go off the throttle quickly without putting the clutch in

[stoic ledge]

Just weld the engine in place

[charred depot]

thought the ford was gonna send it

[gloomy cove]

Well I do have over 300,000 miles on my transmission

[wraith rivet]

anybody have any dashcam recommendations? the ones ltt recommended (the f70) is sold out on amazon

[stoic ledge]

The Viofo ones they also kinda recommended

[feral reef]

That sounds incredibly annoying

This almost went wrong

Video doesn't really show just how close he got to hitting me

[civic spoke]

Looked close.

[wraith rivet]

^^ ooh this is pretty much that

it's the mini version tho

[feral reef]

It was like 10 cm

[stoic ledge]

RPJ has the Viofo A119 Mini above

I've got the A119 v3

[wraith rivet]

ooh yeah i was lookin at that one too

[feral reef]

The mini is like the improved version of the 3

[civic spoke]

I never like driving beside any vehicles like that. tbh

[feral reef]

The WIFI is actually broken on mine, they told be to reset it, haven't tried yet

[feral reef]

Not like I really had a choice haha

[civic spoke]

At least he blinked. That should have been clear enough indication for what he wanted to do.

But he did just cut his way in.

So

[stoic ledge]

Mine doesn't have WiFi, I just have a SD to USB-C adapter in my car for my phone

[wraith rivet]

@stoic ledge @feral reef can you send a few clips from yours please? im gonna try to compare them. The mini is $20-$30 more than the normal a119 and idk if it's worth it

[stoic ledge]

Works better than WiFi imho

[civic spoke]

I just say "Let stupid people be stupid. They are in a bigger hurry than me."

[feral reef]

I don't really use the WIFI, but it's nice to change the settings from your phone

[stoic ledge]

YouTube compression hits hard btw

[feral reef]

Well I would have let him through if I saw him coming haha

[wraith rivet]

aw, is it too big to upload here?

i think the limit is 100mb

[feral reef]

I can upload some, but you don't be able to play them inline

most of my 3 min clips are like 300-500mb

[wraith rivet]

oh damn

[stoic ledge]

https://youtu.be/wAnPkm0k8EY
https://youtu.be/cpNQga-lJXY

I'm currently in bed so I can only send you some YouTube clips

https://youtu.be/fr8imWIR9vY

https://youtu.be/gkqqupHZl8E

[wraith rivet]

nice ty

[stoic ledge]

https://youtu.be/tYPdnV7U-F8

This one is a bit longer, but I also have screenshots of plates from that one

0:40, 0:58, 1:00 and 1:20

[charred depot]

Im sure I processed they were gonna go but my brain was like aaah lets see what happens

[stoic ledge]

Oef

https://youtu.be/YtIjGzLDNjM

This was a close one for me

[charred depot]

see my unloaded wheel on the inside was locked up

[stoic ledge]

Unloaded wheel

[feral reef]

I had something somewhat close to that recently

[charred depot]

they both properly shat themselves at the sight of a smoking shitbox stopping a foot off

[stoic ledge]

https://youtu.be/929AGkSjVA4

The only clip I have where I was actually at fault

(Xiaomi Yi btw)

[wraith rivet]

ope nvm

just decided the mini even though it's $20 more

it's got the capacitor instead of battery which is super important in the summer here

[feral reef]

Does the V3 not also have a capacitor?

[stoic ledge]

So does the v3

[wraith rivet]

not according to dashboardcameraviews.com

oh

[stoic ledge]

Weird v3 they have then

xP

[feral reef]

The mini has usbc, which is nice

[stoic ledge]

Ah yeah v3 doesn't

[wraith rivet]

@feral reef is it small enough to fit behind the mirror? a big thing to me is how much you can see it

[stoic ledge]

https://youtu.be/gjaLlCZaSAs

Almost didn't hear/see it until it was too late

V3

[wraith rivet]

oh not bad

[stoic ledge]

I can't see it at all from the drivers seat

[feral reef]

Depends on your mirror

[charred depot]

person behind me in that video was ready to go past

people passing on the left aswell "wonder what that guy in the saab could possibly be moving out the way for"

certified commuters

[stoic ledge]

https://youtu.be/dhmcyztm3gg

Just go past

[wraith rivet]

This is the best picture I’ve got of it

[stoic ledge]

Yeah no that won't fit with the sensor unit

[wraith rivet]

damn

[stoic ledge]

You can slightly offset it towards the passengers

[charred depot]

I used to be quite a patient driver now im a bit of a mmmm

Not ideal when you have a distinct car I really need to chill

[feral reef]

I've noticed, lol

[charred depot]

people doing like 20 odd in a 30mph fockn send it

[feral reef]

I need to stop backing up pointless clips I'm never going to watch again 😂

[wraith rivet]

holy

[feral reef]

But muh suspension

I aint got no french car

[charred depot]

Not even in bad road areas / speedbumps

but it does bloody annoy me when people in their 2022 crossover are crawling over speedbumps I go over at like 30

"You probably replace your car every 3 years what are you worried about you fuckn troglodyte"

[stoic ledge]

https://youtu.be/eXUU60q7LQU

[charred depot]

In modern cars I tended to snap springs, alot

Couldnt tell you why its not an issue on my old french tat

[stoic ledge]

Probably some steel reinforced with some uranium or something they could still use back in the day

(probably not uranium but a certain metal idk)

[charred depot]

I had a KYB replacement in the saab snap in 8 months heh

[stoic ledge]

(you get what I mean)

Should've gone Bilstein

Full set all round

[charred depot]

Sort by cheapest, mfw shitty part

[feral reef]

Autobahn

[stoic ledge]

Didn't expect anything different from you

300MB

[feral reef]

By car is supposed to have Bilstein shocks, but when I looked it didn't

[charred depot]

£10 wheel bearing fitted to the 305 is cooked after like 4000 miles

I have forked out for a decent one this time

I think the bearing was alright but I guess its seal is shit as when I was driving through flooding immediately after or the next day it was roaring so I guess grease got washed out

[feral reef]

Made it smaller

Oh come on

Let's try that again

[stoic ledge]

Already downloaded it

Takes like 2s

[charred depot]

Funny driving past the BMW that ejected its wheel smugly with my wheel bearing roaring

[feral reef]

That works too

[stoic ledge]

But uhm, why did the Scenic at the end move to the overtaking lane?

Makes 0 sense at all

https://youtu.be/D8ypNbdXO24

> Germanz

[feral reef]

ikr

[feral reef]

hahahha

[charred depot]

some people as soon as theres a merge road ahead they must move over

because its impossible for people to just seamlessly merge among very light traffic

imagine

[feral reef]

You don't do that on an derestricted bit of the Autobahn 😂

[stoic ledge]

Imagine

[charred depot]

Yeah its the wrong thing to do but they exist

[stoic ledge]

Why solve your "problem" when you can make it someone else's problem

[charred depot]

People that join at 50mph into 65mph traffic coz safer

[stoic ledge]

I sometimes move over to let people merge, mostly to make my life easier, but only when I don't hinder anyone else

[charred depot]

I always bomb down sliproads at like 72mph because I can loose speed but certainly not gain

[feral reef]

I do it because in heavy traffic the lane closest to the on-ramp slows down quite a bit

On my way home from work I’ve got the “weave” between lanes perfected

like I know exactly what lane to be in when and where

[charred depot]

It is infuriating having 50hp and someone infront trundles down the downhill sliproad onto the steep uphill motorway

Im never going to financially recover from this

[feral reef]

Merging at low speed because someone in front of you decided to be a grandma is infuriating

[stoic ledge]

People who only start accelerating when the merge lane begins

Like pls I do need the run up

[charred depot]

Alot of our sliproads have a 2nd lane to pass slow people in before the motorway / dual carriageway but alot of these monglets get into a panic attack if they arent in the right lane ready to merge

so they immediately or half way down randomly change into the right lane (overtaking)

[stoic ledge]

https://youtu.be/Uz0VKy_Z1k0

When I can undertake you on sn on-ramp in a 1.2 Corsa, you're not doing great

And I was in the wrong gear

Should've dropped a gear

[stoic ledge]

Like 2 lanes merging?

[feral reef]

Haha yeah, definitely cutting it close there

[charred depot]

https://www.google.com/maps/@56.083314,-3.4004291,3a,43.6y,337.99h,89.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smh2lCCKEL45F522gyNdVqQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

[feral reef]

I hate when they drop a lane

[stoic ledge]

Ngl that seems like bad design to me

[charred depot]

alot of people immediately go into the right lane

[feral reef]

Like this, causes traffic every single day

https://maps.app.goo.gl/MbnET8fUsLYRKmLw8?g_st=ic

[stoic ledge]

Yeah that's what I expected, and generally that's better?

Left just merges like you normally have to, right just gets a new lane

[feral reef]

But it’s not actually a new lane, you lose a lane

[charred depot]

I have had the issue of being in the left lane on a sliproad like I posted and some slow person in the right lane

[feral reef]

It’s essentially 4 lanes turning into 3

[charred depot]

People come up the right lane annoyed at the slow person and block me off

I should just break the rules and undertake the slow person

[stoic ledge]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/6RNGQ3qSJPCKyRHq9

2 lanes merge just 1 by 1

[stoic ledge]

Well the main road had 2 and now has 3

[stoic ledge]

I would, imho if you don't get out of your lane to undertake it's not undertaking for me

[feral reef]

Yeah not enough 😂, it’s 4 both ways before they merge

I think the ones on the side are technically the A59? And the middle the A2

[charred depot]

Saab is too blissfull at 80 no wonder people in modern cars speed

Atleast in the 305 you bloody well know you are speeding

[feral reef]

I speed by default

[charred depot]

Full throttle all the time : )

[feral reef]

I’m pretty much never not speeding at least a little bit

[stoic ledge]

But the A2 had 2, after the merge the A2 has 3, A59 dissolved

Usually when you merge you don't gain a lane on the A2 side if you get what I mean

Although just nvm, it's too late for this

[feral reef]

Haha yeah

I need to sleep 😂

[stoic ledge]

Driving unnecessarily in the overtaking lane is also wronk

[stoic ledge]

Same

[feral reef]

So I can wake up tomorrow and record more dashcam clips on my way to work

[stoic ledge]

[charred depot]

I swear its always like an Audi or Merc that sees me overtaking in the 305 and they just cannot allow it

[stoic ledge]

Classic

Classic

[feral reef]

Funny how much the car you drive changes how people treat you on the road