cars

[civic spoke]

"What do you mean that these Volvo parts don't fit my Volvo?"

[wide hemlock]

I think evo 3 coilovers fit on these cars

but i dont want coilovers

[civic spoke]

Part of me wants to upgrade the brakes on my E46 as well.

[wide hemlock]

I was gonna put 1995 mirage brakes on mine but they're unubtainium

I think evo 3 e brake cable would fit too

[civic spoke]

Right now I probably have a bit more tire than I do brakes.

Pilot Sport 5. 👌

[wide hemlock]

rn I'm working on putting a uhaul truck gauge on mine

waiting on A pillar bezel to show up

[civic spoke]

I'm still on that N/A life.

[empty warren]

i would love to fit some nicer bits onto my car, mostly electronics inside

[civic spoke]

About the same power as you, though.

[wide hemlock]

I met the diesel cannonball record holder awhile back

his car makes the same hp as mine

and it had to be tuned to do it

https://youtu.be/MXRI1IRZn_g

[civic spoke]

Reminds me of that one.

That's a 210+ MPH Jetta.

[plucky flame]

Betta getta jetta

Ive been in one of those before while being threatened. Theyre really nice. Great stereos

[civic spoke]

The Jetta seems nice enough. Would have been nice with a Jetta GLI

Had around 230 hp, which is pretty decent.

[plucky flame]

I dunno its a good car but i dont really trust volkswagen

I really like the toyota 4runners though

The new ones that is

[civic girder]

the 4runners are all just incredibly good

[wet summit]

2 tone, sorta

[plucky flame]

They really are

But the new ones just look really good to me

Especially with the paint options

[plucky flame]

The tundras are good looking too

[civic spoke]

This is a reminder that the whole Eleanor lawsuit is finally over and settled.
The people who built those cars, etc. Are not free to do whatever they want.

But really - It means a whole lot more lawsuits to get their vehicles back.

[brittle totem]

Didn't they stop manufactures does in like 2019 or 2020 ?

Last batch of registered Amarok was in December 2021 I guess they are sold out in Europe and they are preparing for new generation.

[plucky flame]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/rivian-continues-to-fall-apart/ar-AA15XOCj?li=BBnb7Kz

Just when i started liking the look of these damn things.

Way too expensive though. Base models start at 72

And thats for a preorder

Theyre about 100k units behind

[mint tinsel]

nissian 180sx go vrrooomm

[wraith rivet]

obey yolo

[mint tinsel]

I Obey

[eager grove]

https://www.motortrend.com/news/ram-1500-revolution-ev-pickup-three-row-jump-seats/

Three rows in a pickup!

This thing is dope

I like this more than the Silverado EV. It gets the mid-gate but it looks like it's going to be much more flexible (if it keeps the feature, you'll be able to do pass through all the way through the bed, through the cab and into the frunk. You could carry like 18ft long planks with the tail gate up lmao)

[fathom socket]

I wish they’d make electric pickup trucks more like actual work vehicles
The huge front end and reduced visibility from is screws both efficiency and safety

[spiral crescent]

that third row is ASS though. about as bad as the QX60's joke of a third row lol

I don't think M cars belong on the beach

but like, in a funny way lol

Like seeing a macbook set up at a LAN party lolol

[stoic ledge]

Idk what is is with modern Ferrari's... But I don't think they're as stylish as they used to be

[plucky flame]

Fucking F40

Damn doorstop lookin ass car

[fathom socket]

After they dropped pininfarina their styling dropped

They also don’t advertise at all
But I guess that’s also the point of the company

It seems like their goal is “you have to be rich to even know who we are”

[spiral crescent]

tbh I think the corvette outdid Ferrari at their own game .

I mean just, look at it

the fact you "can get one for $60,000" (never been true but whatever) really de-legitimizes a lot of the "halo" surrounding supercars. Like, if GM, the world's most boring car company that also makes this and also this can do that? Idk, why can't ferrari, and mclaren, and everyone else charging $600,000 not do better?

like, that GM lol

that is a fucking 2023 MODEL

THAT VAN

THAT COMPANY

BUILDS THIS

[eager grove]

I mean they're just jump seats, it's not like a full time third row. The QX60's is worse because it's supposed to be, like, a functional third row

This is more like the third row you get in the back of a Mercedes E-class station wagon

[eager grove]

wait really? lmao

[fathom socket]

If it ain’t broke don’t fix it

[spiral crescent]

yeah the chevy express van's last update was to swap away sealed beam headlights lmfao

[fathom socket]

There’s 20 years worth of parts for that ‘23 van

[fathom socket]

It’s a work vehicle

[spiral crescent]

one of these is from 2023, the other is from 2003

[fathom socket]

Frankly I wish trucks looked more like the vans

[eager grove]

Frankly, a van would be better than a truck for most applications

[fathom socket]

Got that big ass front end and awful visibility for what, clout?

[eager grove]

why?

[fathom socket]

Because trucks are work vehicles and the reduced visibility they have is trash

[eager grove]

Like they cost $40,000

why can't they be nicer inside and out?

[fathom socket]

Tiny ass windshields and massive front ends, you can’t see anything

[eager grove]

I'm from the UK, you'll see no complaints from me on crapping on the pedestrian squashing nature of american trucks

but like, what's the point in a basic work vehicle that isn't even cheap?

[fathom socket]

Ah yea I’m from texas

I have no idea, but frankly I’m seeing more and more ford maverick work trucks

[eager grove]

See at least those make sense

they are cheap. The inside is basic, but well styled

and the front end is like normal

And if you have like a pool maintenance or lawn mowing business where you need a bed but you aren't towing or hauling much actual weight, you've got a vehicle you can use as a home and work vehicle that you can buy for less than $25,000

[spiral crescent]

6.2L V8

pushrod too

[fathom socket]

Dawg
Vans have V8s in them

The F150 in the 00s had a V8 in it

[spiral crescent]

I mean, you can see where too

(the middle of the cab)

[fathom socket]

The only reason trucks are as big as they are is because people’s egos keep getting bigger

[spiral crescent]

trucks are about as big as cars were in the 70s now

[fathom socket]

That’s not a good rebuttal

[spiral crescent]

But I mean, they're trucks

they have beds and can do things

if people actually bought them to do those things, I wouldn't really see the problem. It's not like they're too big for our roads, they... fit cars on them 50 years ago lol

[fathom socket]

So can trucks from the 90s

[spiral crescent]

to be fair, you weren't pulling a big ole boat with a truck from the 90s unless it was a triton

[fathom socket]

If people actually used trucks for what they’re supposed to be used for, they’d want the better visibility

Mall crawler mfers

[spiral crescent]

I was going to say, be careful there

dis my mall crawler, so big n tuff n strong grr

[fathom socket]

Valid

[spiral crescent]

I'm getting her replaced real soon tho

[stoic ledge]

Bolt

The inferior Ampera 😛

Did you get a new battery pack?

[stoic ledge]

Free sand blasting

[stoic ledge]

Heh they already look small in Europe, next to a truck like that it's even worse The 500 in the back looks massive compared to the MX-5

[fathom socket]

I think it’s a 500L actually! That might be why

[stoic ledge]

Nope that's a regular 500

[fathom socket]

Fuck 💀

[stoic ledge]

[feral reef]

Saw one drive by yesterday in that color, made me a bit sad I didn't get it that color.

All the red ones I found were generally more expensive and specced worse

[fathom socket]

Yee it’s a BARE sport

[feral reef]

Yeah mine is like a GT-M or something

[brittle totem]

So the new model s comes with a normal sterring wheel now and you can chose the yoke if you want to. For no additional cost. Why didn't they have this option for the beginning ?

[feral reef]

I thought they did?

[stoic ledge]

Wasn't from the beginning no

[feral reef]

Wasn't it just that the yoke was standard and you could side grade to a wheel?

[fathom socket]

Because elon’s a fucking idiot

[brittle totem]

Nope you could only get the normal sterring wheel from 3rd party sellers until now. And it was like 2000$ to.

[civic spoke]

Consumer cars vs manufacturer claims. https://youtu.be/NJxVwnMFmq0

[charred depot]

tailwind on the way to work was mega going speedy quick easily

headwind on the way home could barely speed

50hp unaerodynamic machine is the best

[civic spoke]

Kind of neat results of that video.

[feral reef]

BMW loves lying

and Porsche, haha

[spring isle]

Saw this Ford GT in a car show

[plucky flame]

Those things sure are nice

Watch out for the gt gt1

[near heart]

look at this beauty

Citroen CX 25 GTi Stretched Limousine 1988

[wispy cloak]

<@&750150305383186585>

[tired sundial]

Ohh that’s nice still not getting one

I live in Florida near the ocean and ocean and batteries don’t mix

[dense shard]

Sure they do. They're required for eels

[brittle totem]

You will have more of an problem with an gas car with water anyways.

[tired sundial]

I never had any

[brittle totem]

If you gas car gets flooded with salt water it will be done for same thing with an ev engine and electric components don't mix well with salt water.

[feral reef]

Most things don't mix well with salt water

[tired sundial]

Still haven’t had much of in issue

I’ve seen a Tesla on fire on the side of the road

If thoes catch fire it takes way to much water to put out

Because what’re and lithium batteries isn’t a good option

[brittle totem]

Correct but the chances of EVs catching fire are way lower then a traditional ice car.

[tired sundial]

Ice???

[brittle totem]

ICE = internal combustion engine

[tired sundial]

Oh

Yes that is correct

But it takes less water to put out

And the fire isn’t as hot

It’s like 2 times hotter of a fire

[eager raptor]

but when they do they take 10x more water to put out, it's significantly more aggressive of a fire, and even after its put out it can reignite

https://tenor.com/view/tesla-teslamodels-explosion-blow-up-gif-24338327

[tired sundial]

Exactly

I’m not changing to ev until they do some other way to power the cars

Nuclear power Tesla

[brittle totem]

Yea i know but chances of EV catching fire are are extremally low.

[eager raptor]

no they arent

[tired sundial]

Not realy

[eager raptor]

if water gets inside it will short and catch on fire

if it gets in a bad collision it will short and catch on fire

[tired sundial]

They would have to make it water tight and for a car I don’t thinks that’s gona be easy

[eager raptor]

even when they are parked they catch on fire

[tired sundial]

It would be worst if it was raining at the time

[dense shard]

EVs are less likely to catch fire, statistically speaking

[brittle totem]

Yeah if you unlucky enough i have seen tesla batteries with salt water damage and they haven't caught fire.

[tired sundial]

I wana see how miserable a trip would be in one

[dense shard]

Turns out the alternative involves gallons of flammable liquid

Liquid with a lower boiling point

[tired sundial]

Yea but it would have to be sparked to be on fire not just somthing as simple as water

[dense shard]

Nah something even more simple

Hot exhaust

Turns out lubrication oil also catches fire

[tired sundial]

That’s not gona start a fire it’s not close to gass tank most of the time

[dense shard]

Battery packs tend to be well sealed and damn well protected

[tired sundial]

I’d still go for gas car because sounds better

[dense shard]

Wouldn't know I drive a 4 cylinder economy car

[tired sundial]

Be a shame if the Tesla frame bent during a crash

[dense shard]

Even then

[tired sundial]

Yea get a nice car with a 351

[dense shard]

Nah I enjoy good fuel economy

[tired sundial]

I love the sound of engines not some electric motor

[dense shard]

I enjoy driving

[tired sundial]

Yea can you supercharge a Tesla

[dense shard]

Sure

[tired sundial]

They arnt as good for like project cars

[dense shard]

That's honestly fine. I prefer a good clean turnkey solution

I haven't the time, money, or energy for a project.

I want to go for a drive to relax

[tired sundial]

Also how much is it to replace a whole battery pack

Cost about 10k

[dense shard]

Depends but it can run from a few grand to 20k

Incidentally an engine runs about the same

[tired sundial]

You can buy a new engine and gas tank for that

[dense shard]

Yes, pricing is about on par

[tired sundial]

Yea but you for battery packs and new motors prob cost a whol car

[dense shard]

Assuming you need to replace both

[eternal cedar]

20k is a lot more than the price of an engine and gas tank.

[dense shard]

Depends on the battery and depends on the engine

[eternal cedar]

Exactly

[tired sundial]

Yes it is

[eternal cedar]

EVs are neat little city cars.

[dense shard]

Cause a car that costs 150k is going to have a very expensive engine

[tired sundial]

20k is like buying. Lamborghini engine and gas tank

[dense shard]

That sounds cheap

[eternal cedar]

Also no lol

[tired sundial]

There 120k usd for a Tesla plaid

[eternal cedar]

Tesla isn't the only electric car and if you're looking at EVs as a commuter car, you probably shouldn't be looking at Tesla.

[tired sundial]

I still would take a old car over Tesla

[eternal cedar]

So would I tbh

[tired sundial]

I’m not after my driving to be tracked like my search history

[eternal cedar]

Because I drive long distances in super cold weather.

[tired sundial]

I drive every summer from Florida to cali

[eternal cedar]

Fast charge stations are pretty quick nowadays. America is always warm, so the temperature shouldn't affect battery life.

It wouldn't be that bad to do it in an EV.

[tired sundial]

Always they say

During summer it get hot

[eternal cedar]

I live where water freezes out of your vodka in the winter.

[unkempt egret]

it takes like 5 mins to fill up a gas tank and like 1 hr to charge your battery's fully

if you are on a road trip that would add a lot of time waiting

[dense shard]

Ignoring half the country gets cold, sure

[eternal cedar]

I'm at work rn, so checking is inconvenient, but fast charge stations fill the battery in 15-30 minutes I thought.

[dense shard]

Yes

[tired sundial]

Doesnt lithium batteries worst bad above 75 degrees

[eternal cedar]

The northern states do, yes. But Florida to California is probably a warm route.

[dense shard]

15-30 minutes to get a good level of charge

[tired sundial]

Compared to a 2 min gas stop

[dense shard]

So take a break

300 miles takes hours to cover. Stretch your legs

[unkempt egret]

facts

[stoic ledge]

Unless you're in a cannonball run... This

[eternal cedar]

I'm interested to see the future of carbon neutral combustibles like ethanol that isn't from corn and synthetic fuels. It would be a lot cheaper to retrofit a car with a synthetic fuel compatible system than buy an EV.

[tired sundial]

Yea Texas is like 100 over summer

[stoic ledge]

Batteries preheat for fast charging, heat isn't an issue really

[civic spoke]

I find it better to count EV range in driven hours instead of range. If you have 300 miles. How many hours of time is that? Generally 6 hours at highway speeds.

[tired sundial]

I think they don’t work as good in high temps

[eternal cedar]

Cold is a pretty big issue in northern regions.

They generally still are good for 150km, but it's not enough for most people where I live.

[civic spoke]

I'm curious how battery packs will deal with salt over years.

[eternal cedar]

And no fast charge stations nearby lmao

[eternal cedar]

Depends on the material used to house them.

Steel would corrode in a year. Aluminium is better, but weaker.

[dense shard]

Battery packs are sealed. They deal with it better than the rest of the car

[tired sundial]

Prob thin sheet of metal and plastic

I’d rather have a car with nice shape than a jelly bean

[eternal cedar]

Tesla's older designs were better than the new ones.

The P series of cars, they were called iirc

[tired sundial]

Yes from 2012

[civic spoke]

The only model for Tesla that I like is really the Model S.

[stoic ledge]

Cold can also be problematic for an ICE car? Yet they've also come with solutions for it to make it works, so they will for EV's. Just give it time

[eternal cedar]

The roadster is just a lotus, so I don't give them credit for that.

[eternal cedar]

Battery efficiency as a function of temperature is pretty much not solvable.

[stoic ledge]

"I don't want a diesel, it doesn't start in cold weather, my horse always works, so superior" ~ 1900 northern farmer

[eternal cedar]

I would need huge batteries or a different type of battery than lithium.

[stoic ledge]

Meh it uses more buy hey, so do ICE engines lol

[eternal cedar]

And the government isn't about to allow people to drive around with cadmium batteries.

[tired sundial]

Not in Florida

[stoic ledge]

What?

[eternal cedar]

We use kerosene in the winter instead of diesel.

[civic spoke]

I'm 100% fine with EV's where I live. As long as I have an estimated range of 100 km's of real world range. As long as I would be able to plug in on the daily.

[eternal cedar]

I am too. They're great for short distances.

[stoic ledge]

Put a kerosene heater next to your car to preheat it for better fast charging

[eternal cedar]

But they're not suitable for everyone in more remote areas.

[civic spoke]

Agreed.

[stoic ledge]

Nobody says they are?

[civic spoke]

If you're not able to plug it in at home majority of the time. Then EV is probably not for you.

[eternal cedar]

And they're also not suitable for long distances yet.

[stoic ledge]

Or I missed it

[eternal cedar]

Electricity also costs a fortune where I live.

Less than gasoline by a long shot.

But it's bad.

[stoic ledge]

Imagine not paying 1€/kWh

[civic spoke]

Same here. But it would still be cheaper per mile where I live either way.

[stoic ledge]

[eternal cedar]

I think I pay $0.14/kWh in USD.

Something along those lines.

Which is triple what some people pay just 600km away.

[civic spoke]

I'm curious how it will look like with EV trucks in 5 years.

[dense shard]

Even got a 220 outlet in my garage

[eternal cedar]

I really want a diesel PHEV small form factor truck.

It would be so rad.

[civic spoke]

PHEV is honestly a good compromise for many people.

If you have just 30-50 km's. That can really help to decrease your fuel bills, and to increase your fuel economy.

[wispy cloak]

Yeah our power bill just went up $0.10/kwh

It's crazy

$0.04/kwh to $0.14/kwh

[eternal cedar]

And if it's a PHEV truck with a diesel engine, then it can tow small loads super efficiently while also having a huge range and not consume obscene amounts of fuel if I have to use it to commute, which is everything I want in a truck.

Sadly, none are available here.

[civic spoke]

A lot of it is also how the manufacturer tunes the electric motor.

[eternal cedar]

I'm pretty sure I can't get a diesel without it being a full size truck here.

[civic spoke]

Many times if it just helped you up to 30-50 kmh, then that is enough.

Replace first gear with an electric motor. Basically.

[feral reef]

So from nothing to.. practically nothing, haha

[stoic ledge]

Kekw ours went 25c/kWh -> 100c/kWh

[wispy cloak]

But it's more money 😢

[stoic ledge]

This

[wispy cloak]

Jesus

[feral reef]

I'm paying 0.13/KWh today

[wispy cloak]

At that point I'd live in a cave and bang rocks together for entertainment

[stoic ledge]

I have solar so gg np

[feral reef]

On average

[wispy cloak]

I think we might get solar

[feral reef]

peak today is 0.18 low is 0.07

[stoic ledge]

Best thing would be Dynamic prices currently yes

[feral reef]

Yup

[stoic ledge]

And solar FTW

[feral reef]

Our fixed rate before we swicthed was about 0.9/KWh

[stoic ledge]

I might want to add wind as soon as it's possible

[wispy cloak]

There are still government rebates for solar

[feral reef]

...how?

[eternal cedar]

*Government drone exterminator

[feral reef]

You going to buy a windmill? haha

[wispy cloak]

My grandpa is getting his field converted to solar because the company pays so well

[feral reef]

Prices tomorrow

[wispy cloak]

They are estimating installation to begin in q3 or so of 2024

[feral reef]

Oh wait, ignore, this is before tax

Got a little too excited there

[wispy cloak]

I think that for the whole field he'll be getting $55000-$60000 a year

[stoic ledge]

Something like this

[wispy cloak]

And his other field might be getting wind

[stoic ledge]

Should be hitting market this year

[feral reef]

That's cool

[eternal cedar]

The "left leaning" party sold our electricity company to an anonymous bidder and now it's privatized. It's impossible to get customer service and the prices are always as high as the government allows. Shit sucks man.

[stoic ledge]

No high peaks like solar but a more consistent low generation of power

[wispy cloak]

How much power does something like that actually generate

[stoic ledge]

They expect ~5000kWh annually which would be nice

[feral reef]

oh wow

How much for the install?

[stoic ledge]

It's not available yet

But they target less than a similar solar install

[spring isle]

Current project. Restoring 1973 Chevy Malibu with my Dad.

[charred depot]

Lift kit done

[stoic ledge]

Are those loaners bikes for customers hanging from the ceiling

[feral reef]

This types exist too

[stoic ledge]

1. Park car on lift
2. Lift kit installed

[charred depot]

No customers

[stoic ledge]

Yeah but they have moving parts thus generate sound

[feral reef]

That's 2.5k and does 1000KWh per anum

[stoic ledge]

These have 0 moving parts

[feral reef]

How does that work🤔

[civic spoke]

How?

You got to move something to generate electricity.

[feral reef]

Surely something needs to move to convert that energy

[eternal cedar]

A diesel generator hidden inside.

[feral reef]

or does it like resist movement

[stoic ledge]

Yeah or maybe the generator idk but not massive wings

Idk the info about it is... Not much

[eternal cedar]

Sounds like a scam so far.

[stoic ledge]

Probably as they don't want others stealing their design

[feral reef]

I'm really intrigued now that you've said no moving parts

[stoic ledge]

Nope it's currently being tested

[eternal cedar]

Do you have a link to their product page?

[stoic ledge]

Ok no 1 turing thing

Yeah sec

https://www.aerominetechnologies.com/

There's a video somewhere of the test, let me see

[eternal cedar]

Thanks. I'll read more about it when I get home.

[stoic ledge]

👌

[civic spoke]

I'm going to check it out now.

Ohh, I think that I get part of how it works.

[eternal cedar]

Does it direct air into an enclosed impeller? That's the only way I can think of rn

[civic spoke]

I think that it uses the venturi effect to suck in air from below to power the generator.

Found this.

[wide hemlock]

big swaybar or adjustable camber and toe arms

[civic spoke]

https://youtu.be/VnSZ0MHIcvs?t=274

Yeah, I was right. It uses the venturi effect.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah Venturi basically

[civic spoke]

Doesn't seem like it's too bad of a design.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah it's not too bad

I think it can have a future

And it's fairly inexpensive to build as it consists of fairly simple Components

The shape is mostly determining the efficiency

[civic spoke]

A bit more complex compared to just a fan as a wind generator. But the fan used should be easy to produce and cheap.

[tepid wing]

This is weird to me, shouldn't the "grand touring" model have more range?

[plucky flame]

No

[brittle totem]

Time to check what xDrive are capable of doing in the snow.

[civic spoke]

Same battery size and everything. So range remains the same.

[tepid wing]

You'd think it would have a larger battery.

[civic spoke]

But it doesn't.

[tepid wing]

Grand touring isn't a great name then.

[civic spoke]

Depends. Does it have more features that are suitable for grand touring?

[tepid wing]

It doesn't have a higher range so no.

[stoic ledge]

It's just more sport oriented

[charred depot]

should get unslammed

[stoic ledge]

Is that running at like 200rpm?

[tepid wing]

No exhaust sound is the best exhaust sound.

[charred depot]

they often seem to have just a funny sound

[tepid wing]

I guess it's nice that the base car has the most range you can get.

I wonder if its heat pump is bidirectional.

[stoic ledge]

EV6? There's also a smaller battery

[tepid wing]

No?

[stoic ledge]

Yeah

There's also a 58kWh version

[tepid wing]

All five are the same.

77.4

[stoic ledge]

Might not be available on all markets

But there's a 58kWh version

[tepid wing]

That's really weird.

[stoic ledge]

Same for the Ioniq 5 btw

Those versions have 170hp iirc

[tepid wing]

They are the same company right?

[stoic ledge]

Both part of Hyundai Motor Group yeah

[civic spoke]

We might only have the one battery size for the Kia EV6 here in Sweden?

[tepid wing]

Electronically Controlled Suspension
Variable Gear Ratio Steering
These peak my intrigue.

[stoic ledge]

🇳🇱 Gets both batteries

[civic spoke]

Suspension that can change its dampers.
Steering that turns more/less depending on speed.

[tepid wing]

I also love that we are already at "ultra fast dc charging", I feel like charge rates are going to be the next HD video thing.

[civic spoke]

When are we getting 4k charging speeds?

[tepid wing]

I do think I'll end up with the Bolt though, the 18K difference is huge.

[stoic ledge]

FULL DC

ULTRA DC

DC READY

[civic spoke]

I mean, Tesla have already came up with "Mega" DC charging.

[stoic ledge]

Did they?

Giga DC when

[tepid wing]

For their silly trucks.

[stoic ledge]

Tera DC when

[civic spoke]

1,000 Volt charging for Semi and possibly the Cybertruck

[stoic ledge]

Cybertruck

[tepid wing]

That's a meme.

[civic spoke]

Yeah, I know.

[tepid wing]

I'd be surprised if it comes out before Tesla dies.

[charred depot]

wonder why their wheel ejected

[stoic ledge]

Wheel subscription ended probably

[charred depot]

tried to see if the knuckle was still there but wasnt able to

[tepid wing]

The "you have to pay us every month to turn your wheels" thing was disturbing.

[charred depot]

Im sure someone would hear loose wheel bolts

[tepid wing]

People ignore a lot of weird car sounds and smells.

I see a lot of cars in a work day, some of them have really awful smelling exhaust that screams "service your engine before it dies."

[stoic ledge]

Heh like my parents, "yeah the car was making a weird noise and the heat didn't really work"

No shit when all the cooling fluids are on the suspension

[tepid wing]

I bet the temp gauge was leaning right too. :V

[stoic ledge]

On the last trip it did, then they notified me

[tepid wing]

I bet the Bolt uses a resistive heater.

[stoic ledge]

I think it does

[charred depot]

Fit a diesel heater : )

[bitter compass]

I mean they call a factory GIGAFACTORY

[civic spoke]

🤢

[bitter compass]

Literally a child naming stuff

[tepid wing]

Sounds like the heat pump isn't reversible.

Drat.

[charred depot]

Wheel bearing on the 305 is absolutely howling but its got life in it

[civic spoke]

Naming their cars S3XY.

[stoic ledge]

On the Bolt? Don't think so

[tepid wing]

Yeah it sucks.

[charred depot]

grease got washed out driving in deep water, cheap shit £10 bearing

[tepid wing]

Oh well, I guess people don't know that's something they want yet.

At least I'm in one of the hotter places where the resistive heater wouldn't need to run much.

[charred depot]

speed limited by nature

if the world was flat 50hp would be perfectly fine

mega headwind aswell

[stoic ledge]

Video no workie for me

[tepid wing]

They are just going faster than everyone else.

[charred depot]

lose speed on the slight incline

at some points the wind was so strong could barely reach 70

[stoic ledge]

Fixed after restart Discord

[charred depot]

Was trying to take the injection pump off a crashed 306 today but impact on the wheel had broken the gearbox mount and subsequently engine mounts

not enough room, didnt really need it anyway went for the complete engine and gearbox but gearbox casing was cracked and head had been yoinked : (

[stoic ledge]

😢

[charred depot]

was low miles aswell

[wicked minnow]

God I hate this thing but love it at the same time

[civic spoke]

Love/Hate relationship?

[wicked minnow]

Yes

[stoic ledge]

1st gen Insight

[wicked minnow]

Yes

The egg

[charred depot]

should have a predator engine

[tepid wing]

Real aero wheels.

[charred depot]

I want a mk1 insight but also dont like spending more than 1.5k on a car

[stoic ledge]

1.5k is probably more then the combined value of your cars no?

[tepid wing]

Here I am planning on spending a lot more than that.

[charred depot]

markets mental at the moment so stuff is worth way more than it should be

suppose if I could find one with a hooped battery I could go for it

[tepid wing]

It's not like I'm planning on throwing the car away in a hurry.

I'm going to want to keep it as long as I can.

[wicked minnow]

Get a saturn

[charred depot]

combined value of my cars is like
"mazda 2" 2.4k, Peugeot 305 1.8k, BX £1k current state, Xantia £600, Saab 900 £900.

[charred depot]

My mum has commandeered the mazda 2 and I hope never to see it again, would sell for decent in the clown market though

[tepid wing]

Saturn doesn't exist anymore though?

[charred depot]

yeah they vapourised all of their cars left on the road when they went defunct.

[stoic ledge]

[charred depot]

Quite concerning my brain is like im sure you own another car

[stoic ledge]

I'm a normies with just 1 car

[wicked minnow]

ur not gonna buy a brand new car for 1.5k

[tepid wing]

I didn't say it was going to

[charred depot]

can only buy new cars

[wicked minnow]

2023 prius

[charred depot]

I had another look at the parts 305 estate and its worse than I remember

If there was no pesky inspection for corrosion it wouldnt be too much of a hassle to put back on the road

Technically speaking rear arches on a 305 estate arent structural due to the horizontal spring system

[brittle totem]

No issue with putting the power down on an unplowed snowy road. And I like how it let you slide a bit even with traction control fully on but it still very controllable.

[charred depot]

lol google car drove past when my heater hose burst, can see dash pulled forward

[stoic ledge]

Dual locks

[plucky flame]

Detroit special

[deep zealot]

Twin turbo? twin scroll turbo?

[stoic ledge]

Twinscroll

[deep zealot]

Yes but why BMW?

what is this shit naming scheme

[eternal cedar]

Confusing people about automotive parts is a super old method that car manufacturers use to make more money.

[rustic forge]

If someone could name my ol grandpa car I’d be surprised

[wet summit]

my cavalier has 2 door speakers and 2 deck speakers. the front speakers play great but the rears make 0 noise

y'all got any idea

[rustic forge]

Probably just the wiring, GM wiring was shit in the 90’s, assuming that’s the generation you’re talking

[empty warren]

that a corsica?

nvm

[wraith rivet]

Sometimes while accelerating from a slow speed my car will change gears and kind of jerk me back

Other times it’s perfectly smooth

should I try changing the tranny fluid or something?

[rustic forge]

Haha, I can tell ya unless you wanna another go 😂

[rustic forge]

I would yeah, any lights?

[wraith rivet]

Nope

[rustic forge]

Cause I was also thinking it could be the ecu but you would’ve had a light

[empty warren]

i have found what it is and this is new to me, interesting vehicle

[rustic forge]

Yeah man Luminas are a weird and interesting car haha

[empty warren]

the "euro" trim

specifically

[rustic forge]

Second Gen ugly asf

[empty warren]

https://live.staticflickr.com/7570/16089696612_de72e7918d_b.jpg
we had oldsmobiles in europe

[rustic forge]

Yessir, a shitty 3.1L making 140hp lmao

[rustic forge]

Aveno or sum shit right lmao

We have those too

[empty warren]

alero yees

[rustic forge]

Yeah

That lmao

Aveno 💀

Ain’t that a soap

[empty warren]

aveno sounds like a soap

[wraith rivet]

I’m looking at some forum posts and some people are saying it has to do with either engine mounts or transmission mounts https://www.reddit.com/r/mazda6/comments/y7nntr/slight_bucking_on_2015_mazda_6_sport/

[tepid wing]

Is it just me or do these >4 year car loans feel wrong?

[rustic forge]

Oh yeah it definitely could be the tranny mounts, does it still shift normally like it used too? Same rpm etc and just clunks?

[rustic forge]

Idk I ain’t ever buying a new car, if I can’t buy it with cash I can’t afford it imo

[tepid wing]

Eh, that's fair.

[wraith rivet]

It shifts smooth at higher speeds but just going from like 1-2 or 3-2 around there jerks a bit if I’m being light on the throttle

[rustic forge]

Clutch

Sounds like a clutch

[tepid wing]

What I want just isn't that affordable for me.

[wraith rivet]

don’t autos have torque converters?

[rustic forge]

Same here man, but good thing I like many cars

[tepid wing]

I want an EV that OP works with.

[rustic forge]

Yeah sorry I’m baked man, just seems like it doesn’t wanna engage into gear to me

[wraith rivet]

it’s all good lol

[tepid wing]

There's enough I don't know about this that I can't really guess.

[rustic forge]

Rn I want a eg or an ek sedan for winter and a z31 300zx for summer

[wraith rivet]

it might just have something to do with the computer and how quick it shifts depending on the throttle input or something? idk

[rustic forge]

That’s what I was thinking when I said ecu, 2015 might have different modules for each part tho yk

I’m not too informed on the electrical side of cars, still a noob there

Hoping to have this lineup by at least 2025 💀

[tepid wing]

I do want to get a second car to modify and such, but that's a long ways off.

I need a daily driver first.

[rustic forge]

Yeah I’m thinking of selling my lumina in the spring and getting an ek or older civic as a daily then a 300zx down the line

[tepid wing]

I'm currently saving for a Bolt.

I'm thinking about half way through the year I'll have enough money saved up to justify test drives.

[rustic forge]

Yeah that’s good man

I’d like a fit or another subcompact but I’m not paying 8k for one when I can get a civic for cheap

[tepid wing]

Imagine being rich so I could just grab an EV6 to use for a decade.

[rustic forge]

Just imagine being rich so you could buy every cheap car you’ve ever wanted, then slapping way too much money into them

[tepid wing]

I'd have one or two.

I want to get an old convertible.

https://samcurry.net/web-hackers-vs-the-auto-industry/

If I disabled the modem in a new car what would happen?

[wispy cloak]

How long has it been since the transmission has been serviced

Also is your trans up to temp when doing this?

How delayed are the shifts?

[wispy cloak]

Also is this a lumina

[tepid wing]

I wonder if I could control the car seats with the OBDII port.

[wispy cloak]

It's possible that a dealer computer could do that

Many of the newer ones can control a bunch of functions

[tepid wing]

There's no valid reason why I couldn't in that case.

I guess the best way to find out is to get a OBDII cable and play with the seats.

[wispy cloak]

There's no guarantee that you could

And the dealer software is incredibly expensive

[tepid wing]

Which is stupid.

But that's their business model.

[wispy cloak]

Depending on the manufacturer you may need another computer to interact with the vehicle itself

For example ford requires their vcm for ids or the newer software I forgot the name of

But why not just control the seats with the controls in the car?

[tepid wing]

I want to hack together seat memory.

[wispy cloak]

That may be near impossible

[tepid wing]

Yeah.

These sorts of motors tend to be pretty dumb.

[wispy cloak]

Obd2 is a standardized port and so are the basics but more complicated functions are proprietary

[tepid wing]

But in theory you could just move to the closest end stop and time the movement back...

[wispy cloak]

You'll probably have to go through at least one or two modules to talk to the seats

[tepid wing]

Yeah.

This would be for a 2013 Equinox.

[rustic forge]

You, are a legend

[feral reef]

Gave her a good clean 🧼

[vocal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/sexy-ad-hunk-car-wash-gif-19644701

Like so @feral reef ?

[feral reef]

Basically

Except I’m drenched in sweat instead of soap

[stoic ledge]

PP

[feral reef]

[stoic ledge]

Ngl, that's a small pp

[feral reef]

[timber oar]

From my limited experience on my 4l80, autos have some kind of pressure control solenoid to manage the hydraulic line pressure in the transmission that is used to apply the clutch packs inside

I don't remember if the shift solenoids play into the shifting firmness but the pressure solenoid does iirc

[stoic ledge]

https://futurism.com/the-byte/study-finds-that-buttons-in-cars-are-safer-and-quicker-to-use-than-touchscreens

[timber oar]

Yeah no shit Sherlock xD

I could have told them that

Saved them a study

[charred depot]

Parents cant even use a touchscreen when using 100% of their brain

[civic spoke]

Who would have ever thought that this was the case?

The reason why manufacturers are using screen is really just because of two reasons that I can think of.

It's cheaper, and it looks "fancy".

[charred depot]

generally dont like stuff like that as its one stupid module to fail and the car is fooked

although that is the case with buttons and body control shite

BMW's VS 1 drop of water on the LCM

[brittle totem]

The problems with does kind of articles is that they are just trying a car for short period of time. I can agree that buttons are way faster if you are not used with the infotamient system in that car but after you have hade car for like 1-2 weeks there is probley no big diffrence when you are used to using the screen compared to car with buttons.

[charred depot]

Ive had a touchscreen phone for years if I dont have my focus on it not a chance

although the amount of people that seem to pull off texting and driving

[wraith rivet]

I’m not sure if it ever has been before

It’s only got 47.2k miles

And most of the time it’s as I’m pulling out of my neighborhood for the first time of the day or pulling out of a parking lot

things with slow speeds

[stoic ledge]

Turning on turn signals with stalk is way more convenient than pressing a touch capacitive button on the steeringwheel. So are wiper controls on the steeringwheel vs in a submenu. And frankly, many other features

[brittle totem]

I can agree with that touch button should not be on a steering wheel after driving a new tiguan with it. And yes removing stalks are stupid idea in first place because their is no reason why it would be better to have that in touch screen. But I'm fine with the rest its just a thing you need to get used to do and the perk with having having most of the controls in touch screen is that you can customize them yo your likings and the manufactures can add more features with OTA updates.

[bitter compass]

Noice can we have buttons back and throw out these ipads

[dense shard]

There is a difference

Add in rough roads and you'll be lucky to find anything on a touch screen.

[stoic ledge]

A lot of function won't ever change... Light switches, HVAC controls, a physical home button, volume control, menu/tracks, main shortcut buttons... I can imagine a lot of functions which would benefit from physical controls. I'm not saying to ban (touch)screens, like using a map, entering a sat nav destination etc

[wispy cloak]

Only when it's cold?

Because that's relatively normal

If it isn't up to temp

[wraith rivet]

maybe

"cold" here is like 70 degrees

how hot does it get while at operating temp?

[wispy cloak]

About the same as the engine temp

[wraith rivet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5Yjv-eCrNY lmaoooo

$19.95

[wet summit]

never buy a car that has dashes that break

[feral brook]

i own a tesla

[wraith rivet]

Ok

[wet summit]

considering your youtube page has you playing roblox you're anywhere from 8-16, you don't own a tesla.

scratch that, you listen to "sad music for sad people" and "best roblox music" on spotify. you're 15

[feral reef]

you're 15
Isn't that a bit old to be playing Roblox?

[eager raptor]

my doubt is high but is this the man himself

its not

[viscid atlas]

their dad owns a tesla*

I own a porsche, and also, you can buy a car that has a broken dash, you'll have to fab your own dash or buy a new dash for it. And assemble it, itll be painful. But creating a nice dash could be fun

[charred depot]

No sun here so generally not a issue

[wet summit]

it's 53 on ebay

so i'll buy

[pale trail]

Spotted this beast woooo

[plucky flame]

The most offroading that car has ever seen right there

[pale trail]

who knows but it’s my dream spec 930

https://www.elephantracing.com/blog/feature-build-avante-garde-porsche-911-safari/

[honest stone]

Looks insane

[silk needle]

So anything from the mid 2000's?

[wet summit]

yes

[tired sundial]

https://youtu.be/dj5arZmcyyg

[silk needle]

My car is a 2007 😔 and the door trim peels off all the time lol

[wet summit]

2007 dodge dakota mint dash

my challenger also has its dash in mint shape

but it's a 2010

[wraith rivet]

yeah just watched that lol

[tired sundial]

I watched it yesterday so yea you can’t get the mf for only $19.95

[spring isle]

A couple of Ferrari’s

[silk needle]

I have a 07 mustang GT. Dash and everything is mint, but they're known for the door trims peeling off lol.

But they're replaceable.

Not my car, but this is what they do.

[stable grotto]

Gonna be doing a drive down from nh to Florida soon

[charred depot]

someone doesent like chrome

[stable grotto]

True true

[charred depot]

suprised the cut face of the alloys isnt too bright for you

[stable grotto]

Well actually I didn’t mind the chrome emblem front and back I think it looked pretty good tbh

I actually love the wheels popping, idk if you know savage garage rip Randy but he had a rolls Royce all black with the chrome hre’s and man that is

[charred depot]

my car wants to dechrome itself

[stable grotto]

chrome badges

[stable grotto]

Give er what she needs!

[charred depot]

had a few bumps in its time but solid metal bumpers, chrome trim at front gone rear hanging on

[stable grotto]

[charred depot]

great cars for shunting stuff with

[stable grotto]

Interesting use case for it

[fathom socket]

Are 5.7 350's good motors? I've heard that they can have bad bearings, ad that they like to blow up

[wet summit]

the 350 is insane

probably the best simple v8

[fathom socket]

ok cool

[misty mantle]

Probably because it isn't a 2nd Gen Ram

[viscid atlas]

thats amazing

[wraith rivet]

some lady came through my drive thru with her high beams on

I told her “oh by the way I think you’re driving with the high beams on”

this clown says “I know I can’t see well at night and prescriptions are too expensive”

like tf??

bro you’re blinding everybody else because you can’t see already

[tepid wing]

I love the idea of unplugging a friend's dryer/stove to charge your car.

[wide hemlock]

I got a swaybar for my volvo

off a proton waja

23mm

[tepid wing]

When is it reasonable to start test driving cars?

[charred depot]

Never, buy as seen : )

[tepid wing]

Yeah but I just want an excuse to drive a couple nice new cars I can't quite reasonably afford.

[feral reef]

What exactly is the question

[fathom socket]

Finally got to see a M1 Procar in person

[feral reef]

ehmmmm.... that's not good 😂

[civic spoke]

Basically yelled at by the police
"Don't do that."

[feral reef]

haha yup

Let's hope I don't get mail from them

[wet summit]

i did my first solo radio, and amp install

i did my speakers in my challenger and truck but the radio was done by best buy in both

[fathom socket]

I find it weird

I did full tank in Italy and it lasted me for like 500 kms

But now I did in Switzerland and I did 450 kms and I still had 20 litres left

[wet summit]

do you floor it everywhere you go

in my truck i get 10 mpg if i drive stupid and 15 if i drive like a normal person

[fathom socket]

I only floor it when I'm going on a ramp to highway

Also apparently I was going even faster than usual, and my gearbox is busted too

[feral reef]

Do you not have a speedo? haha

[fathom socket]

I don't have 5th gear

and no synchro on 3rd

It's time for new gearbox

[brittle totem]

Probely the worst road i have ever driven on.

[stoic ledge]

Haven't seen any road

[charred depot]

Its amazing how loose you are in a car without your seatbelt on

Messing about with the saab on private land about fell out me seat

The Low Emission Zone Support Fund, funded by Transport Scotland and administered by Energy Saving Trust, offers an incentive for low-income households to take older, more polluting vehicles off the road.

Grants of up to £3,000 are available to incentivise the disposal of non-compliant vehicles.

The scrappening begins

[brittle totem]

This the only road to a new neighborhood with brand new and quite big houses. And they didn't even bother with decent road to it. Cant be good for the car suspension to drive on that road like 10 times a week.

[charred depot]

Get better cars : )

I thought the road outside my street wasnt that bad then someone drove me home in a mordern car with low profile tyres heh

[brittle totem]

Yep the suspension in moms BMW is quite stiff to that probably doesn't make it better. So it probably felt worse then it actually is.

[flint sable]

anyone here use ammonyc products?

[feral reef]

Recently I just went to move my car, didn't put on my seatbelt for obvious reasons and it just felt so weird.

[feral reef]

Never have, very expensive

[stoic ledge]

I basically already put it on when I move my car from the driveway to park it on the street

[flint sable]

got some of their wheel cleaner recently

had already tried using adam's polishes

[feral reef]

Yeah usually it's just an automatic thing, but I actually thought "why put it on"

[stoic ledge]

Must. Wear. Seatbelt.

[flint sable]

and it worked pretty wel l

but wanted to get something more gentle on the wheels

[charred depot]

Usually have it on was just putting the saab on the ramp but brakes were very sticky so took it for a quick run and when I put full lock on at the end of the road at speed to turn around I was like whoa

about launching myself to the other side of the car

[feral reef]

These are the 2 wheel cleaners I have atm

[stoic ledge]

sTiPt rEaL eFfEcTiVe

[feral reef]

It’s certainly more effective than the other wheel cleaners I’ve used

[stoic ledge]

I also love using Sencys Primer on my wheels

😛

[feral reef]

Haha

[stoic ledge]

Gyeon Q²M Iron WheelCleaner is nice

Turtle Wax often isn't that great ngl

[feral reef]

Yeah, but you can get it everywhere 😂

[stoic ledge]

Imagine going to physical stores

I just order from Carclean

Although our local Karwei actually has Stipt stuff?

[feral reef]

Stipt is everywhere now

This is always fun

Snow foam is just fun for the sake of it

Not sure if it even does anything

[stoic ledge]

My brother prefers the Monello foam... I just go along as I just steal his Snow Foam

[feral reef]

I wanna get a better foam lance

[stoic ledge]

My brother uses.... the Monello Foam thing also

[feral reef]

I’m smelling some brand loyalty here

[stoic ledge]

I think he only uses their snow foam and wheel cleaner? He also has some Gyeon and Meguairs stuff, and maybe some I don't know off

[feral reef]

Random thought, why are most drying towels so stupidly expensive

[stoic ledge]

I don't really know

Ngl.... I don't really use them

[feral reef]

BUT WATER SPOTS!

[stoic ledge]

I go after it with clean water and a "zeem"

Idk what the English word is, too lazy to look it up

But you'll know it

[feral reef]

Yeah

What’s nice about self service wash booths is that they usually have demineralized water

So you don’t really get water spots

[stoic ledge]

Wash booths

[feral reef]

Does Limburg not have them? Haha

[stoic ledge]

We do

I don't use them

I just wash the car on the driveway or in front of the house

[feral reef]

Yeah so do I

Sometimes when I’m lazy I just go to one of those though

[stoic ledge]

Pls tell me you don't use their brush

[feral reef]

Ewh no

Of course not

Water and soap only

[stoic ledge]

[feral reef]

Their snow foam is always really bad

[stoic ledge]

Ofcourse it is

[pearl tiger]

ah yes. its illegal here in germany 😄 i go to wash booth too and use my own sponge n shit

[stoic ledge]

Big sadge :(

[feral reef]

Ewh, don’t use a sponge

That scratches the paint

[wispy cloak]

I need a drop hitch

[stoic ledge]

Yeah that hitch point is way too high

Also, a single axle car transporter trailer

[pearl tiger]

i have a shit box. not a 500 grand Ferrari

[stoic ledge]

Is that a Daewoo Kalos, I mean Suzuki Swift+, I mean Pontiac G3 Wave, I mean Holden Barina, I mean ZAZ Vida, I mean Chevrolet Aveo

[final star]

i assume thats being towed to the track

can't risk damaging that beast on the street

[wispy cloak]

Itty bitty little car so it's fine

It was only like 5 hours of driving total

Like three there and two back

Give or take

[random siren]

i think ya missed a few 😉

[civic girder]

Or just don't lift your truck for no reason

[wraith rivet]

it's not even lifted that much

this one is stock according to the listing and seems to be about the same

[carmine summit]

thats definitely not stock

that's a 4x4 which is usually way closer to level

that has airbags or heavier springs or something

[timber oar]

I'm sorry what

People here keep giving me reasons that make me glad I'm in the us

[wispy cloak]

I didn't lift it

Also I do some nonsense in the fields

Gotta be able to recover geos somehow

Also it's not that much taller than stock

As far as I'm aware

[wraith rivet]

yeah it seems pretty standard

maybe the wheels are slightly bigger

[wispy cloak]

Yeah it's on 17s

I think stock is 16s

And the tires are almost 33s

285/70r17

[vocal mural]

Nothing in Sweden is as bad than W604 between Grängesberg and Sunnansjö.
Although the municipality owned road have been fixed between Gg and Björkås, but why not the whole stretch?

[fathom socket]

Should I drive a manual gearbox car?

[civic spoke]

Why shouldn't you?

[fathom socket]

Because I am going to drive soon

And I am deciding right now

[tepid wing]

Learning?

If so go for it.

Going from an automatic to a manual was a bit of a pain.

[wispy cloak]

Costs more in the long run technically

And in modern times are less efficient

[tepid wing]

If it's just for learning it's a skill to acquire.

[wispy cloak]

That aveo I picked up today was a manual

A weird one too

It was touchy and reverse was to the left and up

Didn't like that thing

[charred depot]

Get slightly cheaper insurance with a manual license here and who knows if you ever want to learn to drive a truck youll get automatically given manual access even if you pass in a auto.

[wispy cloak]

Manual license?

[stoic ledge]

Alread took me long enough to type that list

[stoic ledge]

The "standard" license is with a manual, if you pass your driving exam in an automatic you get a note on your driving license only allowing you to drive automatics

Pass exam in manual = can drive everything
Pass exam in automatic (or EV) = can drive automatisch only (including EV's)

[stoic ledge]

Left + up = ❤️

[civic spoke]

Left up club here too.

Smack it to the left, and then up

[stoic ledge]

I have to pull up a little button

I think with VW you have to push the shifter down

And yeah BMW is just wack it hard to the left

[civic spoke]

Five of the gears are up. While only three are down.

[stoic ledge]

Hmm the facelifted Aveo, the T250 apparently got the GM Family 1 Gen III engine... A16XER then, probably has the same F17 gearbox than many 5spd Opel's

Older models had a Daewoo powertrain with probably a different gearbox

With a Euro 3 complaint engine basically E-Tech II, originally designed by GM, then licensed to Daewoo who made "improvements"

[civic spoke]

No, wait. I'm tired.

[stoic ledge]

Hi tired

[civic spoke]

It's four gears up. Two down.

R, 1, 3, 5 uo
2, 4 down

[stoic ledge]

Yeah lol

[stoic ledge]

This is the Porsche 7spd manual xP

Mine:

R 1 3 5
  2 4```
6spd:

R 1 3 5
2 4 6```
7spd:

R 1 3 5 7
  2 4 6```

But reverse can be basically everywhere, I've also seen left + down, "usual" is right + down... Don't think I've ever seen right + up tho

[civic spoke]

I would love a dogleg at some point.

With first being down left.

[stoic ledge]

For daily driving I don't know

[wraith rivet]

driving a manual sounds scary

i wouldn't trust myself not to accidentally put it into 2nd gear while going down the highway

[vocal mural]

Which car have 7 speed manual?

I have only seen 4,5 and 6 manual

9 automatic on MB Vito

[stoic ledge]

Porsche

[stoic ledge]

I barely ever change gears on the highway? Maybe only when I hit a traffic jam

Usually you just accelerate -> put it in top gear -> cruise the entire trip in 1 gear

[feral reef]

Yeah, unless there is heavy traffic I'm never really in any gear other than 6

[feral reef]

The only gear you really ever accidentally put the car in are the 2 "middle" gears

[civic spoke]

Also Aston

[feral reef]

I want that layout

quick 2 > 3

[civic spoke]

Oh, right. Doesn't the C7 corvette also have a seven speed?

[feral reef]

1st I usually never touch once I've moved off

[feral reef]

No

don't want

That's scary

[civic spoke]

That's the three versions of the 7 speed. I want to say.

[feral reef]

This is mine

[plucky flame]

Koenigsegg CC850

9 speed manual ez

[civic spoke]

That's a special case. Since it's still an H6 pattern for it.

[wraith rivet]

everywhere in California is a traffic jam 😔

[plucky flame]

It doesnt have to represent 6 gears though

[civic spoke]

Yeah. Computer can pick and choose the gears.

[feral reef]

I'd love to try a gated shifter

[civic spoke]

1-6, Reverse and Drive on the Koenigsegg CC850

[plucky flame]

It has the fuckin gear ratios printed on it holy shit

[feral reef]

does D put it into an automatic mode?

[civic spoke]

Yupp

[plucky flame]

What else would it put it into

[feral reef]

Well that's convenient

[feral reef]

Idk, I didn't expect a car with a manual shifter to have an auto mode? lol

[plucky flame]

The transmission is computer controlled

[civic spoke]

The CC850 is a special case.
Since it's the only manual car with the option for automatic.

[plucky flame]

You could have paddle shifers too

[feral reef]

🔥

[plucky flame]

You can put automatics in manual mode

[feral reef]

That's not the same

Normal automatics don't have a clutch pedal, lol

[plucky flame]

Throw the ole chevy into M and use the buttons

[civic spoke]

Not the same. Doesn't have three pedals.

[plucky flame]

Doesnt need 3 pedals

[civic spoke]

Want to hear something special?

[plucky flame]

No

[civic spoke]

An automatic with three pedals.

[plucky flame]

What did i just say

[civic spoke]

Driven one of those, actually

[feral reef]

Yako how many pedals do cars usually have

[civic spoke]

Obviously not counting cars that have a pedal for the parking brake.

[feral reef]

Oh yeah, that doesn't count 😂

[civic spoke]

If you don't have a pedal that manipulates the clutch, then it's not a manual.

Else you can call the SMG a true manual.

[feral reef]

Yeah "manual" up/downshifting on an auto does not make it a manual

[feral reef]

I can't stop looking at this

[stoic ledge]

Download -> set as wallpaper

[stoic ledge]

I've driven farm equipment like that

[civic spoke]

Scania in this case.

[feral reef]

Okay farm equipment also doesn't count

[stoic ledge]

[civic spoke]

Clutch down, throw it in drive, let up on the clutch.

After that, then it's an automatic.

Clutch pedal was only for coming to a stop, and setting off.

[feral reef]

F1 cars had 2 clutch pedals on the back of the wheel for a while

Now it's only 1

[civic spoke]

Yeah. It was four pedals on the back. Two being clutch, and then up and down.

[eager grove]

The Bronco has 7 forward gears, but one of them is a crawler gear

[feral reef]

Usually the up/down is actually one pedal

Just hinged in the middle

So you can up and downshift on both sides

[eager grove]

What if you had a car that had paddle shifters

but no automatic mode

so you have to shift using the paddles

no clutch pedal

would that be manual or automatic?

[feral reef]

Sounds like a semi automatic

[civic spoke]

Sounds like a sequential manual. Where you still would have to clutch to set off.

But once you're going, then you just use the paddles.

[feral reef]

He specified no clutch pedal though

[civic spoke]

Just can't think of any car where that is the case.

[eager grove]

Oh there definitely isn't

that would be hella dumb

[civic spoke]

Just automatic manuals.

[eager grove]

It'd be like a DSG or something stuck in manual mode

[charred depot]

Saab had a clutchless manual called sensonic

Just a normal h shifter though

No clutch pedal

Me 305 had diesel runaway last year so thank fook its a manual

Newish range rover recently here smoking out a village

Im sure they are meant to have a flap or something to cut off air. Atleast some new diesels do

[feral reef]

lmao, that works well https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4pn0jh

[stoic ledge]

Oh yeah the parking video

It would've been alright if it just creeped like a robotized manual

[charred depot]

It was planned feature but gm no patience

I imagine they are exaggerating it as is usual on top gear

Parking it two footed would maybe work well

[brittle totem]

Its great thing to do on your first car so learn how to drive a manual. And then you can get an automatic later on if you want to.

[brittle totem]

Here in Europe we have two different versions of the licenses one for automatic only and one for manual and automatic. So you need to your drivers test in a manual car to get a full licenses. If you do it in automatics you are only allowed to drive automatic cars.

[wispy cloak]

Yeah vw is right and down

And you push the shifter down

The aveo had a collar that you had to pull up

[stoic ledge]

Not all, there are also VW's with left and up

[brittle totem]

I would like to know if you are allowed to drive the cc850 with an automatic licenses in manual mode. And something I'm wondering why doesn't it have paddle shifters to that would have been a such a nice thing to have specially when driving on track when paddle shifters are superior.

[wispy cloak]

Left and up is weird

[stoic ledge]

You'll get used to it and don't even think about it