cars

[deft badge]

Interesting, I must have just gotten lucky

[pulsar granite]

I managed to buy a chain of cars with power memory seats until I got married and share a car with my wife, now our cars are power without memory and manual 😆

[stuck burrow]

Today I saw a Mustang in traffic, it was of the Peugeot kind

[stoic ledge]

Peugeot Mustang

[civic spoke]

[civic spoke]

Top Gear special? Where they put a Peugeot sticker on a Mustang?

[stoic ledge]

Aaaaaah yeah

Forgot about that one

[stuck burrow]

The brake lights were the same shape, size and orientation as on a Mustang

[vocal mural]

According to my Steam page, yes.

[civic spoke]

So like any modern Peugeot?

[stuck burrow]

Yeah, but it was also lower looking than most cars and black... Like most Peugeot's, but I thought it was a Mustang ;-;

[civic spoke]

What kind of a car was it? sedan?

[stuck burrow]

Like a station wagon I think is the right term

"farmariauto"

[viscid atlas]

my 2006 Porsche 911, MSRP of 80K, came with lumbar support. This isn't just taking a step back. Its a feature thats older than a decade for more "premium" cars...

[uncut glen]

Man gebruikt tele2

[bitter compass]

Ah yes 3 very nice British gentleman on a road trip through Argentina

What could possibly go wrong

[civic spoke]

What's the worst that could happen?

[bitter compass]

Maybe the porsche will break down

[vocal mural]

Tele2 = T-Mobile

[uncut glen]

KWeet

[brittle totem]

Didn't Tesla just announce that they are going to keep lidar radar on their new cars ? I don't se the problem with acceleration boost being an "add on" most people wont need it don't want to spend the extra 2k to get it.

My dads Passat has electric lumber support on driver side but on the passenger side its manual adjustable. And my moms BMW doesn't have it all if i remember correctly it only optional extra that car doesn't have it has anything else that you could get on that model year.

And my brother old e92 330i hade electric seats with memory but not any lumber support a very weird combo.

[brittle totem]

Well its a Porsche you need to pay extra for everything on them even new 200k+ Porsches comes with manual or partly electric seats as standard.

[viscid atlas]

this is MSRP with all of the extras my guy. And its build quality is higher than a 2022 model S... Tesla is a painfully dissapointing company interms of actual features and QA

[charred depot]

my seat dont even go up and down

[civic spoke]

Back and fourth, up/down, tilt, and then I can extend a leg support?

And then I can just move my back rest.

[charred depot]

blessed with forward, back and tilt

[civic spoke]

Being able to tilt the seat itself can be pretty nice.

[spark igloo]

Yeah but it’s something the car has the hardware for

[charred depot]

lots of flooding here today and dead cars of people thinking they are driving boats

worst bit is their insurance will pay out for their lunacy

[wispy cloak]

I bet I could drive through it

[wispy cloak]

Ok that's a little higher than expected

[charred depot]

there is alot of dead cars in places cars should be able to drive if done with care..

[wispy cloak]

Of course

Have you seen any electric cars get submarined

[charred depot]

nop

most of the stuck cars are as a result of hydrolocking earlier in the day when it was lower

[wispy cloak]

There's really only one street around here that has flooded and I blasted through it in the f350

Otherwise flooding doesn't really happen here

[charred depot]

drying out on it own slowly, good sign must mean the floor is watertight : )

sadly insurance will pay for all of their cars as writeoffs and we will all pay for it

[civic spoke]

Just shoot the floor with a rifle. EZ PZ.

[charred depot]

britin

just casually have a rifle

[brittle totem]

The model y i got to drive didnt ant qualty issue what i could se but I never driven a new model s so i cant say anything about them. But I have heard that People that have driven those say that good improvment over the previous models.

[stoic ledge]

Would've been bad if they'd have gotten even worse

[dense shard]

It is Elon Musk

Imagine how nice Tesla would be without him

[civic spoke]

I wonder where Tesla would have been if they just stuck to producing batteries.

[civic spoke]

Okay? I don't know what you are getting at.
People have different tastes of what's good. One person's shitbox is another person's dream car.

[charred depot]

Y

why should I care

I have met plenty of people and had good conversations thanks to my nearly 40 year old shitbox

[civic spoke]

Alright. Then wire me €50k and I'll get myself a car.

[charred depot]

I spend enough having my unit and tools to have a "fancy" car but im not a boring bastard

[civic spoke]

lmao.
Can't drive a RAM 3500 here.

[charred depot]

too common, pointless vehicle here

[civic spoke]

And I wouldn't be caught dead driving one either way.

Too heavy to drive on a normal license.

[charred depot]

just a troll but meh

[civic spoke]

True.

Appreciate it.

[lyric tulip]

Lmao

[civic spoke]

"And nothing of value was lost"

Wroom, wroom.

[wraith rivet]

it might be silly

but I think that “ceramic” setting at the self serve car wash place actually helps repel water

it rained just enough today where normally it would make the car look horrible from the little water droplet marks in the dirt if you know what I mean

but there’s just nothing there it’s pretty cool

[civic spoke]

Probably adds a light coating of vax-like substance to help protect the paint?

That's slightly hydrophobic.

[viscid atlas]

good improvement over previous models doesn't mean much as theyre notorious for having bad QA

[wraith rivet]

Yeah you’re probably right

I wonder how long it’ll last

[wraith rivet]

true

if teslas didn’t have the supercharger network I don’t think they would have nearly as many sales

it would just be another ev

now if everything else had access to the supercharger network that would be amazing because right now the non supercharger network sucks

and if they had less sales maybe quality control would improve because there isn’t as much pressure to crank them out? or maybe the opposite idk

aren’t superchargers allowed to charge other brands in some places in Europe?

[dense shard]

I imagine they're forced to

[civic spoke]

I think they started opening up other brands to the Tesla chargers now.

[charred depot]

Should have been standardised from the get go really

[civic spoke]

Which it was in Europe.

All EV cars use the same plug now.

[charred depot]

I wonder if theres any certification involved or if a DIY ev can plug in

toying with the idea of a plug in hybrid

[civic spoke]

PHEV is probably the way to go forward.

[charred depot]

Quite like to make a electrified rear end for a old FWD car

very expensive for parts though

[civic spoke]

Just having around 50 km's of EV range makes a huge difference for daily use.

Especially if you throw slow chargers around all over the place.

https://twitter.com/jasonfenske13/status/1608952131188592642

Engineering Explained (@jasonfenske13)

In the car world it's bonkers to get a drag coefficient of 0.20 or lower, and penguins are out there slipping around with a Cd of 0.05.

▶ Play video

Twitter · Dec 30, 2022, 10:24 PM

[stoic ledge]

🅱️ased penguins

[charred depot]

After being in a Volvo V50 with the 2.0 hdi making 136hp it really makes me want one in a 305

all bolts up just confusers 🗿

[elder laurel]

kar

[brittle totem]

Well my dads friend hade one of the first model 3 that was delivered to Europe. And know he has 2022 model y and he said that quality in his tesla is miles a head of his old model 3. And i can agree with that because I have been in both of Tesla's and difference between the old and new one is huge quality wise.

[brittle totem]

Well most of the Tesla supercharging network is open for all evs in Europe and the sales of tesla cars are still increasing so I guess that people are buying them because they like the car themself and not only for the charging network.

[feral reef]

Aren’t European manufactured teslas generally much higher quality than US manufactured ?

[brittle totem]

Yeah I have heard that the cars build in Germany and China generally has better quality then US manufactured ones.

And the first model 3 that my dads friend hade was an US build one with much worse quality then he new 2022 model y that was build in Germany.

[wraith rivet]

maybe the texas plant will fix that

didn't that just open?

[heavy condor]

Sold my boxster, 4600 for a check engine light made the wife unhappy.

[heavy condor]

I’ve seen a lot of teslas at work, their quality is a joke. I will never buy a car that cost less to develop than a proper car company spends to make a cup holder.

[civic spoke]

Check engine light? Solution? Replace engine.

[viscid atlas]

idk what scam ass repair center you went to, but ive had multiple problems with my 06' 911, the total repair cost by now is maybe 3500, i replaced every rotor and pad, the entire front suspension, and brake line repair, and water pump

most of those repairs were legacy repairs from previous owner

i think next i will get a Lotus Evora if i can swing it. If i cant get an older cabrio V10 R8

[plucky flame]

The light is there to tell you to check if the engine is still there

You dont have to replace it but rather install a new one if yours goes missing

[fathom socket]

my check engine light turned on and my engine is making sad noises

I think my Iveco has some turbo issue

[civic spoke]

Sadge.

I had an issue with the Volvo earlier. Where it said something about a bad sensor and the engine wanted to stall and not take off like it should???

[heavy condor]

Vacuum leak that had to be chased into the engine, removing the transaxle to get to it, 2k in labor. Upon removal of the trans one axel was also found to be bad.

I also don’t believe your “3500” number, unless unicef has gotten into the auto repair business.

[fathom socket]

but it did drive at all?

[civic spoke]

It did.

[fathom socket]

my worst case was the Adblue pump fail

and I got stuck like 350 km away from the mechanic

at the worst place

on Icy hill limited to 20 kmh

had to restart the computer by doing some black magic and do burnout till I freed my self

hate driving empty

[civic spoke]

No load on the drive axle.

And trailer just drags after you, and pushes when you don't have traction.

[viscid atlas]

then dont, as ive said youre being overcharged. I go to a local place who is reputable by other porsche owners. So its cheaper. For parts i go to FCP Euro, as math, suspension job cost 900$, brake job cost 1600$, waterpump and brakeline were done at the same time and was only a 600$ for laber + miniscule number for parts. i included a couple odd jobs to get 3500$ that had to be done such as battery replacement.

also, engine removal being 2K$ in labour literally does mean youre basically being scammed.

its hard to get those engines out yes, not 2000$ hard.

[civic spoke]

Some people overcharge for jobs they really don't want to take.

And then sometimes end up doing it either way. Because the customer doesn't have many other options.

[bitter compass]

Ye my sister once got told 5000€ to fix everything to get TÜV on her car.. for brake lines, swapping out basically a couple of bulbs and a few more minor things that are like.. no work where half of it even I with my limited knowledge could fix it

Simply because the shop didn't want to do it

I mean i hate the meriva too but.. if she didn't have anyone to ask if that's reasonable she probably wouldn't be bothered to get the few things done and bought a new car

Also yikes 35k for a Peugeot e 208

[fathom socket]

Tell me what's wrong

[civic spoke]

[random siren]

no issue as long as you have dorifto style cutting brakes for steering 🤣

[timber oar]

How does that even work

I'm assuming you just load one car over where the wheels actually are

And the rear section is just a built in ramp to assist with loading

[civic spoke]

Those cars usually have ramps that you pull out and put in place.
However, that car gets, uhh, poor weight distribution. With all of the car you're transporting being over the rear axle.

[sudden pecan]

great for reverse ramming police cars

[wraith rivet]

😳

[fathom socket]

our car

2005 buick century

mileage keeps going up and the car does not care

[tropic mulch]

The Rb25 c4 looks so hideous lol

[brittle totem]

Time for my first drive of 2023 😀

[wraith rivet]

i walk a lonely road

hey wait wtf is this thing

it slowly rose up

is that a hud or something?

[brittle totem]

Yes it is.

[vocal mural]

You give me the temptation to start up the Ford Transit

Although I am drunk now

[brittle totem]

And it was very slippery outside to even with awd and new studded winter tires.

[vocal mural]

Here it is +15°C

The warmest New Year’s Eve and day

Ever

[brittle totem]

It was like +6c during the Day know it -2c.

[brittle totem]

According to the samung wheater app it is +2c but the car said -2c the whole time. And the roafs very icey too.

[charred depot]

Giving some friends a lift in the 305 they found it quite humorous

[brittle totem]

@vocal mural bacially a summer night in Sweden.

[charred depot]

"This weather isnt nothing" kicks the back end out

Also because I parked facing up hill all the diesel drained back to the tank

tiny leak somewhere enough to let air in but not diesel out

[sterile sinew]

Svenske?

[brittle totem]

Yes

[sterile sinew]

Ayyy my good ol' neighbour

[brittle totem]

Norweigen ?

[sterile sinew]

Yeah

[stoic ledge]

Did the same

[brittle totem]

And my moms BMW is imported from Norway to.

[brittle totem]

Yeah I was there this summer on a roadtrip with my family to Trollstigen and Gerianger and some more places.

[rotund wolf]

Soo twas revealed that Linus is the proud owner of a taycan now 😄

Good xmas and New year's present for himself

[stoic ledge]

Is he

Missed that then

[rotund wolf]

Ye

[brittle totem]

The pink one ?

[rotund wolf]

No

Or I dunno he's been pretty secretive

[sterile sinew]

Trollstigen is truly beatiful

I was there 3 years ago i think

[rotund wolf]

But he said new EV and he shit on government body that wouldn't accept the documents from Porsche dealership

[brittle totem]

Yeah the funny thing is that speed limit is 80km/h on that road.

[sterile sinew]

There's Peak safety

No worries

[rotund wolf]

Also dbrand might give him a LOT of money to wrap the car in a demascus skin lol

That'd be forking hilarious

Hasn't confirmed that he's going to do it or not lol

[brittle totem]

Yeah it was a bit sketcy driving up there when meeting a big buss mid cornor. And our car is quite big too.

[sterile sinew]

We had the same problem

It's sketchy asf

[charred depot]

would be 96kmh here : )

305 is getting a brake upgrade to vented discs

[brittle totem]

Basically the whole "north part" of your country is beautifull with all of the "fjords"

[sterile sinew]

The rest is shit

Sandnes, Stavanger 🤮

[brittle totem]

Good luck with all of the german and polish busses blocking all of the roads. Maybe if will be possibal if you get some do88 parts for your SAAB 😀

[charred depot]

have that here with horse boxes

10 cars too scared to overtake behind them meaning you have to overtake 10 cars and a horse box

its impossible in the 305 but I have done it in the Xantia

I do miss the saabs whopping 130hp but its too modern for me

too easy to get up to license loosing speeds and not feel sketchy in the slightest

[brittle totem]

Not every Day you see an do88 sticker on epa-tractor/a-tractor. Basically a car limited to 30km/h for teengers.

[charred depot]

Was a guy on the Trionic tuning forum asking how to "detune" a 9-5 for that

think they lived in the french countryside car was for a 14 year old or something

[deft badge]

Honda civic doing work

[charred depot]

joys of saloons

I like the way the saloon 305 looks but practicality

meh

just have to get this one back on the road and ill have an estate too

[charred depot]

damn those rear arches hella protrude into the cargo space

305 estate has horizontal springs to avoid that

[wraith rivet]

That’s cool I never knew they popped up

[heavy condor]

So your either a shit who does not actually Porsche, as from Pelican "a complete front suspension" in parts alone is 2K trying to be an internet tough guy, or you have a sweetheart deal at a shop as Ive bee driving Porsches for over 15 years close to getting out college and the repair work you have listed never would be that cheap even on a busted as 924. Or you can take a deep look at yourself and learn to not be a piece of human garbage, and not feel the need to fabricate shit to be "right" as obviously the ship as sailed as the car is sold and I am happy with my new purchase.

Cost of doing work like I had done is well document due to IMS failure, I did not get "ripped off" as the so called internet tough guy claims.

[brittle totem]

Not a common thing on BMW they are usally just projected directly to wind screen but its not possibal on this model becuse the wind screen is to "steep".

[charred depot]

Best be some decent suspension if you are paying 2k for it in parts

[wraith rivet]

Lmao you’re getting so angry from someone trying to help

[dense shard]

I love my flat 6, AWD car.

Tho I made the right choice and got an Outback

[wispy cloak]

Bad

But I made it better

Coil pack on cyl 1 died

[plucky flame]

Sounds fine to me what are you talking about

[viscid atlas]

pelican is expensive thats why i usually buy from FCP Euro, when i say completely rebuilt, i meant taken completely apart, swapped shocks and control arms, then rebuilt. obviously didn't entirely swap the suspension out as not all parts break at the same time. As for IMS failure, those did used to happen in boxsters, caymans, and 911 pre 06', but literally EVERYONE and their mother knew to take preventitive measures to make sure it didnt happen. Im not under that risk as my engine is at 75K, and is an M96_5 which is the one that was pre-fixed from factory.

[plucky flame]

Hey

Knock it off

Its cringe

[acoustic igloo]

might cop this cutie

[brittle totem]

Yes they are limited to 30km/h and you need a am/moped licence to drive them.

[civic spoke]

There are a whole lot of limitations to those cars. Or if you should call them tractors.
Can't have functional back seats and stuff like that.

[pearl tiger]

so basically even more dangerous to the normal drivers

[civic spoke]

And then you have USA. Who allows teenagers to drive at 16 and pretty much whatever car, or bike they want. As long as they have a license for it.

[jovial mauve]

@stoic ledge my brother bought his first car Suzuki Swift sport

its pretty fun ngl

2008 model i believe

[dense shard]

Cars are kinda required to participate in society here

[wispy cloak]

I'm allowed to drive with up to a 16000lbs gvwr

And I'm 17

[feral reef]

I kinda wanna get slotted/grooved discs, just because they look cool as shit

[wispy cloak]

I've been allowed to since I was 16

[civic spoke]

Sadly the cities are built that way. And they think it costs too much to make town centered around cars, instead of people.

[wispy cloak]

You need a different license for motorcycles

In Illinois it requires parental consent and a dot approved class

[dense shard]

Cost would be substantial

[civic spoke]

I know. But that doesn't stop someone to jump on a Huyabusa at the age of 16.

[dense shard]

And we have issues deciding if we even want to pay for some things

[wispy cloak]

It stopped me because I couldn't get that parental consent

No matter

I will get a motorcycle license at 18

Doesn't stop me from driving a truck that weighs 7000lbs unloaded

🦅

[dense shard]

Ideally your parents taught you to drive

[charred depot]

rough

see all these old... lane hogging and its like please dont teach your kids to drive

[wispy cloak]

You have to drive with your parents to get your license

[feral reef]

I think in NL you don't actually have to do lessons/drive before your exam at all

Just gotta pass your exam

[dense shard]

With a permit you are expected to be taught by someone knowledgeable.

Reality is they can't check if you drove anything for even a second until the practical exam.

[timber oar]

To hell with the teenagers, i see more adults driving like idiots talking on their phone etc while going to work every day

And i know, because I pass them and give them the "you're a dipshit" glare

I look right at them

[stoic ledge]

Not too bad, quite fun/tossable 🙃 Hope the power steering holds up, that can be a problem on those

[wispy cloak]

6hrs with instructor

and i think 50hrs total

[timber oar]

With 10hrs being at night i think

[wispy cloak]

Yep

[timber oar]

If i remember from what i did

Even though I'm barely about to be 21 that still feels so long ago

[civic spoke]

https://twitter.com/jakkuh_t/status/1609622815434739712

Jake Tivy (@jakkuh_t)

New Year’s resolution: stop buying broken old BMWs
Jan 1: I bought another broken old BMW

Now I have E39 twins!

Twitter · Jan 1, 2023, 6:49 PM

[charred depot]

best "modern" beemer

been tempted by one for a while but its its like 3 times as much to insure vs a 305

[civic spoke]

And finding good examples is expensive.

But damn if those cars aren't 25+ years old now. Pretty much 20 years for the ones last in production.

[charred depot]

thankfully for me a bad example is a positive

[civic spoke]

400,000 km's. Baby.

Let me look around at some E39's to see how many miles they have.

From the ones that are being sold here.

[charred depot]

Police here got rid of some of their newish 5 series

I believe before they sold them they put some sodium shit in the engine to rust lock them

[civic spoke]

Damn.

[charred depot]

Some safety issue with the engine I think is why they got rid

avoiding liability when selling them on or whatever by destroying the engines

someone bought one of the notorious undercover ones and put a new engine in it and its back on the road scaring people : )

[civic spoke]

There are some E39's for sale with under 200,000 km's on them.

[charred depot]

Was known around here as big KFE

[civic spoke]

https://www.blocket.se/annons/halland/bmw_540_i_sedan_automat_m_sport__business_286hk_unik_facelif/103954055

E39 540i. Want.

[charred depot]

I know someone that bought a super cheap one, much fun

wouldnt have been too bad if it wasnt rotten AF usual "you havent done your 10 year complete coolant system replacement" coolant leaks

[civic spoke]

Yeeeeeah. The BMW's of that generation really likes having their whole coolant system renewed after a while.

[charred depot]

"They’re not selling any of the 3.0 diesel BMWs for fear of liability claims, even though other forces are (we already have 4 in the film vehicle fleet now)"

wonder whats so bad with the 3.0 diesel in a 2015 5 series

Ah apparently they set on fire when driven hard

[civic spoke]

Which engine code? B57?

[charred depot]

so "not a issue for the general public" according to BMW

N57 I think

[civic spoke]

Yeah, I think it was the N57.

Considering that the wiki page doesn't say it was produced for that long.

No, wait. They just refreshed the engine a whole different times.

[charred depot]

Officer died from his setting on fire while responding. Were all banned from exceeding the speed limit from that point.

Had to do chases in 1.2 peugeot estate beat cars

[charred depot]

BMW blamed it on the polices "unique usage profile"

[civic spoke]

In other words. People used it like a BMW?

[charred depot]

Apparently something to do with the EGR cooler

[civic spoke]

Of course it has something to do with emissions.

Emissions like to ruin everything.

[charred depot]

Put sodium silicate in to ruin the engines before getting rid

So apparently they have ridiculously low oil pressure at idle which the police do alot of combined with high miles and harsh acceleration. Engine catastrophically fails probably at high speed and sets on fire.

[civic spoke]

Fun

[stoic ledge]

Friends 2022 Mercedes C200d is also in the shop due to an AdBlue problem

Dealer can't seem to be able to fix it

Love the emissions stuff

[charred depot]

great fun when your brand new car cant even be fixed by the dealer

inspiring for when its 10 years old

Can always buy a new one

Contacted peugeot about a 305 part you know got to atleast try

predictable answer been out of production for a long time

[stoic ledge]

Was to be expected after such a time yeah

But yeah confidence inspiring a 2022 can't be fixed

[charred depot]

Atleast most things on a 305 can be bodged

merc 10 years down the line: just scrap it

[stoic ledge]

I recently discovered Merc's 7G-Tronic has 2 reverse gears:

722.9 Transmission Gear Ratio
1st 4.3772
​2nd 2.8586
​3rd 1.9206
4th 1.3684
​5th 1.0000
6th 0.8204​
7th 0.7276
Reverse 1 -3.4157
​Reverse 2 -2.2307```

Why?!

[charred depot]

gotta go fast

[stoic ledge]

You can go faster in reverse than forward in 2nd gear

Probably for delivery drivers reversing at 100km/h in their Sprinter van

[charred depot]

Apparently its for winter mode heh

[stoic ledge]

Aaah like when it starts in 2nd gear to drive off

[charred depot]

mhm

too much powah to control

[stoic ledge]

Hmmm kinda makes sense

[charred depot]

So if you want to reverse quickly put winter mode on : )

knowing modern cars probably has some boring electronic reverse speed limit

[civic spoke]

Trucks having four reverse gears. Now that's the real fun one.

[stoic ledge]

I've driven tractors with 24 reverse gears

[stoic ledge]

Likely

[charred depot]

So easy to reverse quickly in old cars

Get into a new car turn head "oh"

dont really use the 305 mirrors when parallel parking they are pretty useless due to not being stuck out

bleh

[stoic ledge]

> CH-R

[charred depot]

most things these days

[stoic ledge]

If no one is sitting in the rear, I always put the headrests down

But my rear pillar is massive

[charred depot]

middle lapbelt only and no headrests on rear

my passengers can enjoy their whiplash to the fullest

[dense shard]

I just use the back up camera

[stoic ledge]

Ngl, so can most people in modern cars. Imagine adjusting your headrests properly

Backup camera

[charred depot]

are backup cameras still an optional extra, I imagine so

[stoic ledge]

Yeah

[dense shard]

Mandatory in the US

[stoic ledge]

In USA they're mandated

[charred depot]

pennies to add so a bit ridiculous

[stoic ledge]

But > 'murica

[charred depot]

not like they dont already have big fuck off screens

[dense shard]

It prevents toddlers being run over.

Honestly I appreciate the lower/farther back viewpoint a camera gives me.

I can't see around SUVs. The camera is an eye 6-7 feet removed from where I am sitting.

Doesn't matter how much greenhouse you have when you are parked between two apartment block. lol

[charred depot]

Driven a car with one, it was decent for parking but when trying to reverse quickly up a single track road still beh

[dense shard]

I change between a car with a backup camera and one without. Not too much issue.

[charred depot]

depends on the car

toyota chr as reference

[civic spoke]

Truck having an automatic cover for the reversing camera is a life safer.

[charred depot]

rain or?

should take the exhaust from the air brakes and put it on the camera to dry it

[feral reef]

I don’t have headrests

[civic spoke]

Cover flips down to protect it from any weather.
Only have a problem with it when it comes to slushy snow.

[wraith rivet]

exactly

my friend asked me why i use my backup camera "just use ur mirrors" (from someone who doesn't even have their license)

if there's cars on either side how are you supposed to see what's coming with mirrors

[civic spoke]

Reverse camera is nice as an added security. But you should never rely on it.

[feral reef]

What do you mean rely on it

You use it to look behind you

Better than any mirror can

[wraith rivet]

i guess people say that if it breaks or something or you get a rental without one

then you might not know how to use mirrors when backing into a spot or somn

[civic spoke]

If it breaks. Or the fact that you lose your surroundings if you only look at the camera view.

The camera might only look straight behind you, where as you see more by using your mirrors, or by moving your head.

[wraith rivet]

what i do is use the camera until my drivers window is past the rear bumper of the cars parked next to me

then i look out the windows and all that because then the camera is too far back

[stoic ledge]

It has fixed ones I think?

Don't like those either

[feral reef]

Yeah, just part of the backrest

[civic spoke]

With the truck. Then I constantly move my head around to check all of the mirrors and the camera when I'm reversing.

[stoic ledge]

Also, reversing camera should be used as an aid, so as an addition to watching the mirrors and looking around you

[feral reef]

It’s an aid just like mirror is an aid

[wraith rivet]

but your mirrors don't do anything until you're actually out of the spot really

until then you just see the car next to you

that's my take

[civic spoke]

With cars, then I just use the mirrors to get myself into position. And then the camera for the last meter or two.

[stoic ledge]

Reverse in a spot, no problem then

[wraith rivet]

this is true

[stoic ledge]

[civic spoke]

Always reverse into parking spots.

[feral reef]

Oh is this about backing out of a spot?

[stoic ledge]

Apparently

[wraith rivet]

i guess

idk when else you would use your camera

[feral reef]

I thought just general use of a backup cam

[feral reef]

Backing into a spot lol

Or parallel parking

[stoic ledge]

Backing off a driveway

[wraith rivet]

backing into a spot is easy with mirrors

[civic spoke]

Reversing into parking spots mean that you will have much better visibility when you are leaving.

[feral reef]

And easier with a backup cam

[wraith rivet]

true

[civic spoke]

And reversing into parking spots also mean that you minimize risks.

[feral reef]

You can do like millimeter precise shit with a backup cam

[civic spoke]

Reversing out of parking spots is always a big eeeeh

[feral reef]

Those lines are generally incredibly accurate

[wraith rivet]

i just like to double check with my mirrors if i back into a spot it makes me feel better that my mirrors or whatever isn't going to hit the person next to me

[stoic ledge]

I can do more precise stuff with the mirrors ngl

[feral reef]

My car has “cross traffic alert” or something

[civic spoke]

Ditto.

[feral reef]

So when I reverse it detects things around me

Goes all nuts with beeps

[civic spoke]

That's where I had to reverse into.

[charred depot]

bump test is the best parking method

[civic spoke]

You know that you have reversed enough when you start hearing a crunch.

[stoic ledge]

The only real advantage a backup cam has to me is to see how far I can go backwards. I have 0 aids so sometimes the distance is hard to judge when I can't see the bonnet of a car in the rear while parallel parking

[charred depot]

had a van with a towbar "bump test" my saab no damage though

[stoic ledge]

Oefertjes

I also don't have a tow bar

[civic spoke]

That's also why I like cameras.

[stoic ledge]

The worse thing are camera mirrors imho

They really mess you your depth of view

[feral reef]

Wel yeah, but knowing exactly how far back you can go makes everything else easier

And you can see small things on the ground

[spark igloo]

Meanwhile me who almost slammed into my garage wall going forward because my new car doesn’t have parking sensors

[feral reef]

Which you can very easily miss with mirrors

[charred depot]

world bollard

[feral reef]

Especially when backing into a spot surround by 2 cars

[spark igloo]

Sheeesh clean Benz truck

[charred depot]

atleast they wont get smashed as is often on trucks

[stoic ledge]

For trucks I think they're more useful, for cars not so much

[feral reef]

I also like that with cameras the perspective doesn’t change when you look into them from differents angles

[civic spoke]

Fun fact. They come with a spare mirror for emergency use.

[stoic ledge]

But I don't drive trucks so not sure if it's actually better

[civic spoke]

I haven't really tried it myself.

[stoic ledge]

But I could imagine you could get multiple views for it for certain situations

[feral reef]

I used camera mirrors in ETS2 😂

[civic spoke]

Heard from some that they got sick from them.

But that they got used to them.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah that's the change of depth

Can really mess you up

[charred depot]

Heh friend with a fiesta had their mirror stolen

one way to get a spare

[stoic ledge]

Looking through the windshield you focus on stuff 100m away

And then the mirror is 50cm away

Ah yeah I always need a spare mirror

[civic spoke]

What I would really like about them is the increased visibility. Since you don't have a huge mirror blocking your view.

So much can hide behind the mirrors of a truck.

[stoic ledge]

For trucks also a giant difference for airflow and fuel consumption

[civic spoke]

Yeah. Something you might not care about with cars.

But if you are saving 1% fuel from it. That can be a big deal.

[stoic ledge]

Well it's also important there, but has a smaller impact there then on trucks. On cars they're often better shaped, camera mirrors arent much smaller. And the screens and camera's also consume power. But on a truck they're massive rectangular panels

But yeah small things like that have a massive impact on a fleet

[civic spoke]

Oh, it's actually around 1%.

[dense shard]

dunno... replacing the two mirrors with cameras? Surface area should be a tiny fraction even on cars

[civic spoke]

Mercedes quotes 1.3% fuel savings.

[stoic ledge]

If a truck does 200k km/year, and you consume 30L/100km vs 29.5L/100km, that's a difference of 1000L/year

[dense shard]

And the power consumption if fairly minimal

half a mile to the gallon in a car that gets 30 mpg

[stoic ledge]

I think Hyundai or someone tested it and the difference was negligible

[civic spoke]

The bigger difference is probably just wind noise.

[dense shard]

Negligible difference here, negligible difference there

Suddenly you have a notable difference.

[charred depot]

was that ICE?

[stoic ledge]

Might've been negligible in the other way you expected

[stoic ledge]

On an Ioniq iirc

[dense shard]

They were too cheap to implement it?

Wish Toyota had gone through the effort to use more aluminum in their cars

And put that extra kilogram of effort.

Civic is that much bigger, still weighs something like 100 pounds less than the Corolla.

100 pounds means your car is that tiny bit faster, tiny bit easier on gas, tiny bit lighter, and generally will require less energy to move

Honestly, I want to see the two Porsche people here fight it out over cost of repairs.

Cause one of them sounds like they went to a dealer. lol

[civic spoke]

We need to put modern cars on a diet.

[dense shard]

Absolutely agree.

For the cost, cars should weigh less.

3 years ago... fine. All steel construction and all that jazz. But now a Corolla is pushing 30k? Fuck cost cutting. Give me a car that has 30k worth of engineering that went in.

[stoic ledge]

Imagine getting a compact car for 30k

Lucky bastard

[dense shard]

Sounds like a European problem.

[stoic ledge]

[dense shard]

Now American.

[civic spoke]

The problem with cost is mainly that cars require more safety shizz.
Along with that the consumers expect all the bells and whistles.

[dense shard]

I got my Corolla for 23.5k.

[charred depot]

Bigger cars in general are more desired here now aswell for whatever reason

[dense shard]

The same exact car now starts at something like 25k.

No real changes beyond automatic is now standard/mandatory.

[stoic ledge]

Corolla starts here as €32695 which is 35k USD currently

[civic spoke]

Because they make you feel safer.
And you require a bigger car if you want a bigger green house compared to years back.

[stoic ledge]

[dense shard]

I'm glad Toyota is still making a compact car

[civic spoke]

Look at the green house that the BMW E30 has and compare it to any modern car.

[dense shard]

And honestly modern compact cars are super fancy now. Compared to 10 years ago? Damn near luxury car features.

[civic spoke]

All of them coming with Bluetooth radio and everything.

[dense shard]

But Honda and Mazda somehow pushed what a compact car can be even farther.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah that's why I might be getting a base Astra as a company car ... Literally everything you'd ever need is already standard

[feral reef]

For Mercedes pretty much every generations the new feature on the last gen S gets passed down to the E and what was new on the E gets passed do to the C

[dense shard]

I'm fine with the safety features and tech.

[stoic ledge]

Base model already has heated seats, reversing cam, adaptive cruise, ergonomic seats, LED headlights, wireless AA/ACP

[feral reef]

And now we're at the point where the A class has almost all the fancy shit you could want

[dense shard]

I like my radar cruise control.

That changed roadtrips

[stoic ledge]

A-Class can have some wild stuff with AR satnav etc

Fully loaded 1.0 TSI Audi A3 can get specced up to €70k, that's crazy

Did it yesterday at work lol

[charred depot]

A guy here has a modified smart roadster with self driving

[stoic ledge]

[stoic ledge]

The only reason why I'd go up a trim is to get a black painted roof ... But the additional price isn't worth it lol, all the other additional features I don't care about

[feral reef]

sooo cruise control and climate control?

Those are my 2 main things I want from a car

[stoic ledge]

It does have that

Adaptive cruise and dual zone climate

[feral reef]

ewhh fancy

[stoic ledge]

Even a heated steering wheel is standard

[wraith rivet]

adaptive :o

[feral reef]

so when a car has adaptive cruise control, can you still make it "dumb" cruise control?

[stoic ledge]

Depends from the car

[feral reef]

🤯

I want a heated wheel haha

[stoic ledge]

About the Astra, uncertain

I'm only sad that I can't spec a heated windshield on the base model

[feral reef]

haha, so my co worked has a Ford Fiesta with a heated windshield

It didn't do much when it was frosted over haha

[stoic ledge]

Worked great on my brothers Volvo

[charred depot]

did fords patent run out or something

[stoic ledge]

Uncertain, but I know VW used a different technique from Ford

Idk what Stellantis uses

[feral reef]

So do these heated windshield have any visible wires in them?

[charred depot]

ive seen them on a mk1 focus

[feral reef]

lmao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZYrCx49m7s

random thing I noticed, that URL looks like it has a time stamp in it, but that's just the URL

[stoic ledge]

Lol so true

[feral reef]

I need heated doorhandles

[stoic ledge]

Inb4 they get replaced with buttons

[charred depot]

Retrofitting a diesel heater to the 305 and cruise maybe..

[feral reef]

My doorhandle has a button on it, lol

[stoic ledge]

Brick on the accelerator

[charred depot]

pretty much atm

I have to speed on the way back on the motorway else my engine wont be in the right power spot to maintain speed

[feral reef]

hahhahaha

[charred depot]

Can go down a gear to get up the steep bit but itll be aids level rpm

[stoic ledge]

Highest level of comfort in that car 😛

[feral reef]

Do you have any modern cars?

[charred depot]

1995 saab

[stoic ledge]

Ged's most modern car is the Saab I think

Ah yes

[charred depot]

only insured car is the 305 atm

new daily will be this, wouldnt be too bad if I didnt have to weld all the rust holes for inspection

[feral reef]

so when you pick a daily, how important is reliability

[charred depot]

very, this has no engine so my choice

[stoic ledge]

No engine = no problems

[charred depot]

despite my warpath to the shittest car only broken down once

I want to put a modern hdi in but cant be too bothered with confusers

will get the N/A XUD from my saloon for now, when the turbo engine goes into my saloon

[stoic ledge]

Old 2.0 HDI 8v is also a good reliable engine

The 90hp version

DW10 TD / RHY that is I think

[fathom socket]

Man

I saw a truck that had PVC pipes holding the side mirrors

and next one had mirrors being held by plywood

also love roads that are red

[civic spoke]

Heavy traffic?

[charred depot]

yeah has to be a RHY else mounting differences

[wispy cloak]

(Filmed in Mexico)

[charred depot]

RHR / RHW engines I think sit at a difference angle and thus have a different gearbox etc

Ideally id have an entire car but stuff is worth a fair bit now

probably just have to buy an engine and try to get the confuser to play ball

[wraith rivet]

lmao nice

kinda looks like kansas or somn to me however

(this video was filmed on a closed course done by trained professionals)

[wispy cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/america-hurricane-happy4th-of-july-america-flag-independence-day-gif-21259025

Wasn't filmed there ^

[wraith rivet]

most certainly not

[stoic ledge]

Can't you buy a used 206/307 for cheap? Take the engine, sell the rest for parts

[wispy cloak]

Just a part of Mexico that looks like rural Illinois

[wraith rivet]

yea yea

[charred depot]

none local atm but yeah only like £700 but I am a cheapskate

travelling for a 307 is not the most motivating thing

Just buying an engine is like £200

£40 for an early single plug loom (pre body control module bs) and £100 for a unlocked single plug ECU

I would just stuff the 307's body control shit in somewhere if I had a full car but having a older 306 setup is much more preferable anyway

and 306's are actually desirable so I wont be getting one cheap

[stoic ledge]

306 is quite a nice car

[charred depot]

Funny thing the hdi 90 will probably run better in my car

no intercooler on hdi 90's afaik

[stoic ledge]

[charred depot]

would fit one

Just wish XUDs werent getting rarer

so simple one wire and you are away

[stoic ledge]

Just install an Hybrid4 drivetrain

Also DW10 based

Ez

[charred depot]

I imagine theres some tomfoolery gearbox end wise

[stoic ledge]

Hybrid4 has the 2Tronic iirc

[charred depot]

Think thats RHW

could still be done, would be fun to modernise something that far but I would need a full functioning car

mmoney

oh its got e4wd

[stoic ledge]

RHC apparently, similar to RHH and RHE

[charred depot]

eh I dont know that new heh

[stoic ledge]

Basically RHW with more power?

[charred depot]

Only know as far as like them changing the angle the engine sits at to be more straight

When they moved past RHY

probably for when cars snoots were getting shorter

[stoic ledge]

Likely

[charred depot]

Why the 2.2 diesel cant be easily fitted but has been done with fabrication

Most people going for power just swap a 16v head from a later one onto a HDI 90

[stoic ledge]

Isn't the 16v less reliable?

[charred depot]

probably but so is BIG POWAH

[stoic ledge]

Woah big power, like 109hp?

[charred depot]

people going for like 200+ hp

[stoic ledge]

Massive

Ah

Lol

[charred depot]

Theres one that had like 2 turbos and a supercharger

stock bottom end

[stoic ledge]

That's going to have a slight impact on reliability I presume yes

So does 2 turbo's and a supercharger

[charred depot]

funy

totally unusable power in reality but fun

[stoic ledge]

[charred depot]

spin, spin, spin, oh spinning again!

[stoic ledge]

In a 305 with 0 weight and skinny tires

[charred depot]

tomfoolery is most popular with 306's

thats a tame one think it has 140hp

[stoic ledge]

Wagon life tho

[charred depot]

soon

my saloons boot is full all the time

saloons suck

[stoic ledge]

Fact

[charred depot]

is nice to have stuff secured away

[stoic ledge]

Get a 505 Familiale

[charred depot]

sort of prefer 305's

[stoic ledge]

But RWD

And massive

[charred depot]

less easy to perform engine tomfoolery

boat status

I was offered one

pelican boxes in my saloons boot exceed the cars value

from work im not so foolish. will waste over a grand on genuine pelican boxes but no payrise :^|

[stoic ledge]

[charred depot]

Im not sure we have any spare 305 headlights left so the estate might be getting a pair of sealed beams bodged in the front

its the american model :^)

[stoic ledge]

[charred depot]

parents will probably hate it

They think im going to get killed in the saloon, telling me how the saab is so much nicer

[stoic ledge]

With the current drivers on the road I wouldn't be surprised

[charred depot]

meh most of the accidents I see are following distance related

[stoic ledge]

Definitely not optimal

I also see a lot of distracted drivers (e.g. phones)

And just people who think the world revolves around them

[charred depot]

A92 who can get the furthest up the verge challenge

[sudden pecan]

ranger won

[charred depot]

disqualified for leaning on the van

had to stop around about there to top off coolant before heh, really annoyed me rejoining finally a gap in traffic just one car im sitting with a right signal on

do they move over fuck no

big trench in the grass from me trying to send it

[honest stone]

Bro isn't that near Aberdeen 😂

[charred depot]

this bits between Dunfermline and Kirkcaldy

[honest stone]

Ah ok

I'm from Glasgow but me gran lives up near Aberdeen the folk there are worst drivers ye ever seen

[charred depot]

rarely go to aberdeen but up north the A9 I find myself losing my mind

get people that do 40 in a 60 when its a single carriageway then it goes to a dual carriageway where you can pass them and they are up to 70

would just send it but avg speed cameras

[wispy cloak]

Is this in bald eagle or 🇪🇺

[charred depot]

whatcha think

[wispy cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/europa-ensmira-jugada-mestra-map-eyes-gif-13454824

That's pretty slow for a highway

[charred depot]

we use miles per hour in britin you know

[wispy cloak]

The torque converter locks up in my truck at 80mph

[charred depot]

sounds broken

[wispy cloak]

It isn't

It's consistent

[charred depot]

bit of a shit design then

[wispy cloak]

Probably because bigger tires

[charred depot]

A9 isnt like a motorway or anything

most of it there is one lane for each direction with no barrier

[wispy cloak]

That's 55mph here

[charred depot]

Speed limit is primarily for environmental purposes

basically the default speed limit here is 60mph

[wispy cloak]

70mph on the interstate

55mph on the highways

[charred depot]

70mph here aswell

[wispy cloak]

But everybody does faster than that

[charred depot]

same here

[wispy cloak]

Usually I do 65mph on the highways and now I do 80mph on the interstate because it's more efficient

[charred depot]

transmissions fucked if 80mph is more efficient

aerodynamic drag has no chill

[wispy cloak]

It's fine

5mph difference from what I usually was doing

[charred depot]

realisitcally doing around 50mph is the best environmentally

[wispy cloak]

Yeah

But I can't do that on the interstate

[charred depot]

we have a "national speed limit" so like even these roads are 60mph

which I mean you can do safely at points

trucks here are electronically limited to 56mph

doing 50mph on a motorway here isnt really a issue as we use lanes properly

seeing videos of american motorways is like anarchy

must absolutely suck to drive trucks

(actual trucks)

[wispy cloak]

Yeah

I've been cut off more in my light duty truck than any other vehicle

[charred depot]

more meaning keeping track of cars around you in a semi

could have a car going up your inside all the time and that wouldnt be outrageous there

[wispy cloak]

I almost t boned somebody yesterday because he just drove in front of me and stopped in my lane

[charred depot]

undertaking here is considered dangerous

[fathom socket]

Here's something funny: this one random video in this YouTube playlist reliably crashes the Infotainment system in my friend's car 😂

And apparently it runs Windows

[wraith rivet]

holy shit

I got $1 off gas with fuel points somehow even though I’ve barely bought anything in the past month

[wispy cloak]

Gas was $2.92/gal when I left my house this morning

But I still get diesel

Low 4s with cash back

[wraith rivet]

Lmao that’s the price of normal gas here without the discount

apparently those fuel points were my dad’s and now he’s triggered

somehow our accounts got linked

[elder laurel]

good car advice, if gas is too expensive just use diesel

[wispy cloak]

Remember when diesel was cheaper than gas

[elder laurel]

yup

got a turbodiesel vw in the family that thing was a cheat code for both fuel economy and cheap fuel ups up before covid 😂

[plucky flame]

I mean

During the lockdown gas dropped below a dollar here

[feral reef]

per gallon? 🤯

[bitter compass]

National speed limit laughs in german

Help

[feral reef]

NL has a 130kph national speed limit, but a 100 kph limit during the day, but a somewhat funny part is that the 100 limit only counts after a sign that says so so you can actually do 130 on on ramps and then when you run into a sign that says 100 you have to slow down.

But often it actually takes a while to come across a sign that says 100

[plucky flame]

Living where they make ethanol helps.

Doesnt make a dent in diesel though.

It broke 5.44 not long ago

[fathom socket]

This feels wrong

But better than having a tube made of duct tape

[feral reef]

Your engine looks like Bane from the Tim Burton Batman films

[stoic ledge]

If it works, it's not stupid 🙃

[charred depot]

My 1994 Diesel Xantia has EGR get to fook

[fathom socket]

I have no idea if it will work or it woll blow out

you can't find the OEM part that won't disintegrate anymore

[civic spoke]

Remember when they thought biodegradable wiring was a good thing?

[charred depot]

my poor Xantia has its original turbo at 230k miles

[timber oar]

100kph during the day is dumb af

[civic spoke]

Part of me really want a Citroen for the suspension they have.

But a good part of me knows better.

[charred depot]

Its not too bad but my BX could do with everything being replaced

[feral reef]

yes, yes it is

[charred depot]

just usual 30 year old rubber issues compounded with a car that has many rubber lines related to suspension

Xantias perfect though, but ofcourse BX is BX so that cant be killed off

And my 305 is desperate for more than 60hp

[civic spoke]

Our family used to have the XM wagon. I want to say the facelift one? But I'm honestly not sure.

(Not the actual one)

[charred depot]

Was offered an XM would have taken it if it was an estate

Was offered it with the clause that I couldn't rip the engine out

2.1TD XUD would have been epic

[civic spoke]

Kind of want the Citroën Xantia Activa V6.

[charred depot]

Even the standard Xantia can make some people sick

[civic spoke]

Fastest car through the moose test.

[charred depot]

friend was laughing at how boaty it was

Will say Xantia is the most comfortable car I have been in other than being frozen to death

Still would prefer my BX to have springs, one for simplicity

[civic spoke]

Citroen is generally pretty good at comfort, especially if you get one with hydraulic suspension.

But you really just need to swap over to springs once any of the hydraulics give up.

[charred depot]

Had Xantia in service position drove it off the ramp hit a pothole speeding away and got launched into the roof

suspension is solid in that mode

Looks the best but is the worst car I own

Id argue this is "easier" to get MOTd

[fathom socket]

nope

[charred depot]

why would anyone want a car to last more than 10 years!

[civic spoke]

It was a thing that Mercedes did for a couple of years.

[fathom socket]

I don't understand the reason

Sounds like firehazardb

[eternal cedar]

iirc, the logic was that a certain percentage of the car needed to be biodegradable. Mercedes thought wiring harnesses were a good choice to bump up their percentage a little bit.

[civic spoke]

I think the BMW E36 had a bunch of biodegradable stuff as well?

Which is why their interior likes to fall apart.

[eternal cedar]

Old bimmers over here are always clapped out rust buckets. Probably due to all the salt on the roads in the winter.

[stoic ledge]

It was for government mandates yeah

X% had to be biodegradable/recyclable/...

[frosty roost]

So we did our 2nd long ish (900 miles each way) roadtrip with our model y this last week. I drove it all and made some mental notes of ice cars / trucks around us as we got onto the highway. Having an EV had 0 impact on our progress relative to those other cars which I found a bit surprising. Honestly having a toddler probably slowed us down more.

[fathom socket]

Aren't Ford chassis biodegradable?

And frames

[civic spoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/841365057496547428/1058452955608649870/Isnt_it_beautiful-aDYzN2x.webm

[wispy cloak]

You know what I'm doing?

[civic spoke]

Replacing a light bulb?

[wispy cloak]

Low beam/running light

[civic spoke]

Called it.

[stoic ledge]

[vocal mural]

Changing to LED?

[wispy cloak]

Staying incandescent because of the price

$15 for a new bulb

LED is like $100

Also it's my grandpa's truck

[civic spoke]

To be fair. If you count labor then switching to LED would be worth it.

[wispy cloak]

I do the labor for free

[wraith rivet]

wtf an led bulb for $100???

[civic spoke]

Depends. They cost a lot more for cars that are designed for halogen.

[pearl tiger]

i would go LED but its germany and not allowed for my car

[civic spoke]

I wonder if it would still fly for fog lights and high beam.

[charred depot]

best headlights

[civic spoke]

That's a nice Mercedes.

[tired sundial]

Bruh isn’t even admiring his Peugeot

[wraith rivet]

interesting

my car has something called xenon

all I know is it’s some kind of gas and they have xenon lights in GTA 😛

[civic spoke]

Different design on the bulb, and filled with xenon gas instead of a halogen.

[feral reef]

Those look like tiny brakes for the size of that vehicle

[feral reef]

Lmao, imagine charging your grandparent for labor

[eternal cedar]

Welcome to American vehicles.

[wispy cloak]

They aren't that small

[eternal cedar]

The Dodge Grand Caravan still has drum brakes

iirc

[wispy cloak]

I think they're about the same size as the brakes on my f350

[wispy cloak]

It doesn't though

[honest stone]

Bro my jaguar has massive ceramic brakes that hardly fit from factory lol uk and Germany put massive brakes on

[wispy cloak]

Most trucks aren't performance vehicles

[honest stone]

It's a family saloon lol

[eternal cedar]

Better brakes are a safety feature.

[honest stone]

I know that's why America should standardise bigger brakes

[feral reef]

I think the brakes on my 1000 kg car are about the size of the ones on that big ass truck 😂

[eternal cedar]

The Dodge Promaster I drive for work has drum brakes at the rear kek

[honest stone]

My grannys Renault captur 2014 has drum brakes on the rear also

[feral reef]

Calipers on mine are definitely smaller though

[feral reef]

I not sure I’ve ever even driven a car with drum brakes

[wispy cloak]

They're 350mm in diameter

Idk what that translates to

Also that's a relatively small truck

[feral reef]

Okay that’s bigger than I thought

[wispy cloak]

Short bed f150

[feral reef]

But still smaller* than I would expect for a truck

[wispy cloak]

The brakes on my f350 are smaller than that

331mm

That's a 7000lbs truck

[feral reef]

That seems ridiculous

[wispy cloak]

It stops good

It also pulls geo trackers well

Or suzuki vitaras in europe

Front and rear brakes

The truck is on 17s

[charred depot]

fuckn cars that require dismantling to change light bulbs

305 doesent need the assemblies removed but even if you wanted to you can take apart the front end without any tools

turn 2 tabs and the grille can be removed. disconnect the springs from the back of the headlights then pull the levers and they can be pulled out

corners are held in by a clip

different times

In modern days thanks to the power of cad software we can determine exactly where to place stuff to obstruct you

[frosty roost]

IIRC my beater truck requires an inconvenient amount of disassembly to replace some of the front lights. Nothing like taking the wheel off but still more annoying than it should be.

[fathom socket]

https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/101vau8/the_hoonigans_ken_block_passed_away_earlier_today/ I hate this year already

[stable grotto]

Yep

[exotic turtle]

https://sports.yahoo.com/rally-car-star-ken-block-dies-in-snowmobile-accident-024156262.html?guccounter=1

[compact grotto]

RIP

[livid sail]

RIP

[honest stone]

That's gotta be fake

[compact grotto]

Its unfortunately most definitely not, a quick look around shows that

[honest stone]

Oh shit it's real

RIP

[random yacht]

damn

[exotic turtle]

in reality, it was only a matter of time with the stuff he did

but you can assume whatever killed him involved going too fast.

[north moss]

Rest in peace to Ken man, shittiest news.

[north moss]

Snowmobile flipped on top of him in the backcountry. He was with a group but alone at the time. Not sure if died from impact of snowmobile crushing him or suffocating in snow. No coroner report yet.

[long field]

damn im sad now

dude drifted like a king

[north moss]

Guy did everything, he definetly lived his life to the fullest.

Sad for his family most of all.

[long field]

yeah the dude was awesome

i hope nobody bothers the family in these times

[wraith rivet]

WTF NO

[deft badge]

What a terrible way to start a year.

[spring bramble]

found this relic in dyker heights

[wispy cloak]

I wouldn't say it's a "relic"

It's a little older though

[livid sail]

Literally the electric gymkhana inspired me to build a car. And now getting into it. Sad to know this but he inspired many of us and someone will take his spot one day.

[exotic turtle]

On January 2, 2023 at approximately 2:00 p.m., the Wasatch County 911 Center received a call reporting a snowmobile accident in the Mill Hollow area.
Search and Rescue, along with law enforcement from Wasatch County Sheriff’s Office, Utah State Parks and the U.S. Forest Service responded.
The driver, Kenneth Block, 55-year-old male out of Park City, Utah, was riding a snowmobile on a steep slope when the snowmobile upended, landing on top of him. He was pronounced deceased at the scene from injuries sustained in the accident.
Mr. Block was riding with a group but was alone when the accident occurred.
The State Medical Examiner’s Office will determine the official cause of death.
We are saddened to hear of the loss of Kenneth and our hearts are with his family and friends so deeply affected.
We thank all of our first responders for their continued service.

yeah, he's dead.

[fathom socket]

It did fix the issue, but now it shows ecm error

[fathom socket]

And fuel is 7.30 usd per gallon

Or 1.90 euros per litre

[wide hemlock]

tires for my pos

I was gonna get yokohamas but I live in Akron so I figured I might as well get Firestones or Goodyears

[charred depot]

big money

[wispy cloak]

The spinner

[wraith rivet]

model 3 went off a cliff in california and all 4 people survived, the 2 adults are in critical condition and somehow the kids were only mildly hurt

that's crazy

the cliff was like 250-300 feet tall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1hVNAHzIiE

[civic spoke]

Modern engineering is quite something.

[civic spoke]

Yeah. I heard of that this morning. Big loss.

[vocal mural]

And automatic levelling and reflector is required

[civic spoke]

Yeah. I want to say that xenon requires a projector?

[silk needle]

You can’t even wash your own car in your driveway 😔

[elder laurel]

absolutely amazing tire have these on my g37

compared to the all seasons i ran previously these hook up amazingly well, both in a straight line and corners

[brittle totem]

Yeah the saftey in modern cars keep impressing me everey time soecially tesla i have som crasy new about accidents in them and somewhat most of people inside has survived with minor injures or none.

[viscid atlas]

pilot sport4 or better, or bust

[pearl tiger]

still im doing that. same goes for running the engine for defrost

[civic spoke]

Are you able to upsize to 205/55R16? You have a lot cheaper tires in that size.

[livid sail]

Surprisingly those car are sturdy

[civic spoke]

Kind of required to. They need to be super stiff where they have their batteries.

[livid sail]

True. I do hate one part of that however

Fixing a dent on the body it’s expensive af. Its all 1 piece so you got to buy the whole side of the car to fix it.

[civic spoke]

Lots of cars being totaled because of minor crashes these days.

They just have so much electronics that aren't worth fixing.

And if they can fix it for a reasonable price. Then you can't find parts for months and months.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah parts availability is also bad

[silk needle]

Yeah my German friend tells me of their goofy laws over there

[hoary tiger]

Rest in Peace, Ken Block 😭

[wide hemlock]

S40s have a weird stock size

Like 3 cars use 215/50r16

I'm lowering it so I wanted close to stock

[stoic ledge]

Exactly 15 liters And <€2/liter so it's cheap

@vocal mural look, I'm supporting the Dutch economy for once

[stoic ledge]

That's not a very crazy size? Mercedes also uses/used them a lot on A/B/CLA/ for example

I can get 400+ tires in that size

[civic spoke]

Words about Ken. https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a42384337/what-ken-block-meant-to-us-all/

[stoic ledge]

Hmm although the cheapest I'd even consider are still 85 each

[brittle totem]

1,75€/l in Sweden right now.

[stoic ledge]

But... Super 98

Only the best for the mighty Corsa

[brittle totem]

1,8€/l for 98

[stoic ledge]

Very cheap

[fathom socket]

Help

It's expensive all of the sudden

[vocal mural]

Not only you..

Luckily did i refuel company car

[rotund wolf]

sucks for ken block

still can't believe it

he's just gotten with audi and was starting do to some cool open wheel stuff with his daughter

[eternal cedar]

I pay $1.32/L for 87 (MON+RON)

[trim tartan]

dats a munny pit

[stoic ledge]

Well usually I sponsor the 🇧🇪 government

[snow otter]

https://youtu.be/YM3trB-pLyY

[crystal imp]

Clean ah car

Might get me one of those older mustangs

[wispy cloak]

Like one vehicle used 255/55r17

And there is only one manufacturer of it

[silk needle]

5 speed too

I like the 05-9 S197's best body imo, and the 4.6 sounds the best. But isn't faster than the coyote motors, and aren't power friendly with upgrades. But they're fun to drive and good cruising cars

[wraith rivet]

yeah i think it does

It has the little motors inside of the headlight that moves them when you go around turns and stuff and you can see it cross cross when you turn them on

[wraith rivet]

wait what? Why not?

[silk needle]

Because germany is goofy

I'm not german, or from germany. But my german friend tells me it's illegal to do it yourself outside of a self serve dedicated carwash because of the "chemicals" and stuff in the products

So the self serve washes have tanks to capture everything I guess or you just have it done for you.

[wraith rivet]

Lmao

as far as I know most soaps are fine for the environment anyways